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Speaker 3: What are you checking out tonight? That'd be Ball State

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Speaker 1: I think I told you that at the beginning of

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Speaker 4: I should say, oh, oh, okay, So you're just going

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Speaker 1: Probably Taylor, gotten a problem with Franklin, gotten no problem

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Speaker 3: None of it right.

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Speaker 4: We know that you won, but we know that you

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Speaker 1: At nineteen eighty three first Team All Basketball Camp.

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Speaker 1: But good afternoon to you on a Wednesday humpday. My

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Speaker 1: significant improvement yesterday on your behalf of this, because I

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it looks significantly smaller today than

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Speaker 3: Well, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: It helps out. It was almost sixty yesterday. I don't

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Speaker 1: That kind of happened when it comes to the Pacers

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Speaker 1: The bottom six have equal percent of ending up as

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Speaker 1: And of course, if Indiana falls to five, the pick

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Speaker 1: but joining us now Brian Knubert from Golden Black to

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Speaker 1: talk about what happened last night for Purdue basketball in Lincoln. Brian,

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Speaker 1: that was kind of a tale of what like three

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Speaker 1: haves last night. If you will right, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: had Purdue great from the outset that Nebraska comes roaring

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Speaker 1: back and then Purdue winning in the overtime. Let's begin

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Speaker 1: with the Nebraska comeback. Does that tell us more about

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Speaker 1: Purdue or still a deficiens excuse me about Nebraska, or

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Speaker 1: still an achilles if you will.

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Speaker 3: For Purdue, I think it.

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Speaker 6: Was the game becoming what it was supposed to be

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Speaker 6: all along. I think that Nebraska didn't win its first

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Speaker 6: twenty games of the season by accident. They're playing in

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Speaker 6: a building where Produce brought teams just as good, if

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Speaker 6: not better than this one in here and really had

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Speaker 6: a hard time winning and got boat raced with its

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Speaker 6: national runner up team a couple of years ago. Really

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Speaker 6: tough place to win, really good team. I think Nebraska

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Speaker 6: made the shots in the second half that they didn't

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Speaker 6: make in the first half. When you look at their

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Speaker 6: ability to break Purdue down off the dribble and get

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Speaker 6: those corner threes, they missed them all in the first half,

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Speaker 6: and they made them all in the second half, and

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Speaker 6: I think it was it was more a credit to

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Speaker 6: Nebraska than it was.

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Speaker 3: An indictment of Purdue.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, I think there were two cardinal sims

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Speaker 6: Purdue committed. One was those three live ball turnovers in

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Speaker 6: the span of five possessions really got Nebraska going, even

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Speaker 6: if they didn't necessarily score off all of them.

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Speaker 3: And then and then the foul.

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Speaker 6: Shooting in the final minute of regulation was just inexplicable.

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Speaker 6: You have three great foul shooters, uh one, two, three,

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Speaker 6: going to the foul line with as many as six

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Speaker 3: Game away, and you come up with one point. That

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Speaker 3: just inexplicable.

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Speaker 6: It's I guess that's just basketball, but just really weird.

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Speaker 6: But I think that if you're a Purdue person.

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Speaker 3: And you want to celebrate, you got what you were

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Speaker 3: looking for.

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Speaker 6: If you're a Purdue person who wants to freak out,

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Speaker 6: you also got what you're looking for. Me, I think

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Speaker 6: it's more, it's more it's more positive about Nebraska than

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Speaker 6: it is an indictment of But it also illustrated how

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Speaker 6: good Purdue can be. When Purdue was good, I thought

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Speaker 6: they were good defensively in the first half, even though Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: Got shots that wanted.

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Speaker 6: But I thought Perdue did a really good job a

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Speaker 6: and then obviously having the wherewithal to win that game

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Speaker 6: in overtime after everything was going against them.

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Speaker 1: Brian, Obviously, we know they're starting five, and you know,

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Speaker 1: with the exception of the fact that they they're new

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Speaker 1: in the post this year, there are players with which

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Speaker 1: were very familiar. But is there any accuracy to this statement?

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Speaker 1: While Purdue has an outstanding starting five, Purdue's season may

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Speaker 1: be that they go as far as their complimentary pieces

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Speaker 3: Is that overstating it? Probably?

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Speaker 6: I think they go as far as Braden Smith can

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Speaker 6: take them. I think him only turning the ball over

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Speaker 6: once in forty plus minutes yesterday was situationally enormous for Purdue.

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Speaker 6: But I think the story last night's game that might

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Speaker 6: get obscured by all the drama and all the you know,

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Speaker 6: neck breaking turbulence, was the fact that CJ. Cox, who's

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Speaker 6: been shooting not so great and big ten play, makes

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Speaker 6: two enormous threes for Purdue. Jack Benner makes a really

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Speaker 6: big three, gets a bunch of offensive rebounds. Jakari Harris

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Speaker 6: I thought, played really, really well, and it was those

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Speaker 6: guys who you know, were the difference in the game

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Speaker 6: in a game that really was a game of inches.

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Speaker 6: It was the al Pacino speech and any given Sunday,

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Speaker 6: if Jakari Harris gets to the ball a half second sooner,

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Speaker 6: maybe he's the one who slips and then he fells

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Speaker 6: to Marcus Lawrence and all of a sudden they're at

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Speaker 6: the foul line to win the game. But it just

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Speaker 6: so happens that he met the ball, did a great

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Speaker 1: Say, yeah, the floor was a little slick there, and

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Speaker 1: I felt bad for the kids from the kid man,

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Speaker 1: the kid that's got to towel that up man right, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I would not want to be him today. I

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Speaker 6: feel bad for the kid because, you know, I don't

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Speaker 6: know the details, but look at all the stuff that

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Speaker 6: unbelievable college basketball game. You're probably not necessarily paying attention.

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Speaker 6: If Nebraska fans were as they have a long way

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Speaker 6: to go in terms of getting up the ten standards

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Speaker 6: in terms of toxicity. But if they were fans of

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Speaker 6: been lighting up Twitter last night about conspiracy theories and

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Speaker 6: pretty dumping water on the court that Purdue also had

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Speaker 3: So that wouldn't have made any sense well.

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Speaker 1: And for those unfamiliar with it, what happened was late

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Speaker 1: in the game, Nebraska had an opportunity. They were down,

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Speaker 1: they needed a basket to win the game in overtime,

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Speaker 1: final possession essentially, and upon the inbound as the Nebraska

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Speaker 1: ends up with the basketball like, whoa that I mean fouled?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was fouled, and then they salted away.

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Speaker 1: So there was clearly a spot of condensation on the

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Speaker 1: floor that what you know, did that cost Nebraska? They

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Speaker 1: would have still had to make a play, but nonetheless

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Speaker 1: it was a tough way obviously for Nebraska to lose

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Speaker 1: the game. But the bottom line is Brian Purdue made

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Speaker 1: plays down the stretch that they needed to make to

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Speaker 1: soft that a way, and they answered the bell. Would

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Speaker 1: they have done that at the end of January when

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Speaker 1: they went through that three game skid. Was there something

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Speaker 1: just in terms of focus that was missing for Purdue

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Speaker 1: that perhaps last night kind of exercised well.

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Speaker 6: I thought that last night, unlike that stretch in January,

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Speaker 6: rebounding was a huge advantage for Purdue. I think that,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's a little bit of low calorie meaning

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Speaker 6: because because Nebraska is not a great rebounding team and

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Speaker 6: they don't even try to offensive rebound. Ironically that they

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Speaker 6: almost won the game on a putback. But I think

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Speaker 6: that I think when when Trey Coffin Morin and Oscar

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Speaker 6: Cluff are rebounding the way they did last night, you know,

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Speaker 6: Purdue's really hard to beat, and they did it without

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Speaker 6: fouling or at least getting called for fouls. You know,

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Speaker 6: that's always in the eye of the beholder, but I

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Speaker 6: think that, you know, Purdue just dominating the last the

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Speaker 6: way they did. You know, much has been made this

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Speaker 6: little bit with a traditional power forward and a traditional center,

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Speaker 6: even though a lot of people in college basketball are

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Speaker 6: doing that. But if you're going to do that and

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Speaker 6: accept the defensive trade off that comes with it, you

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Speaker 6: have to have the advantages somewhere else. And you know,

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Speaker 6: Purdue has needed rebounding to maybe not necessarily be something

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Speaker 6: they dominate. But they also can't get beat on the

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Speaker 6: completely punked Nebraska out on the glass and traycoff Moran

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Speaker 6: looked like Caleb Swanigan and Oscar Kloff getting ten offensive

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Speaker 6: rebounds and Jack Benner, you know, we talked about produce size.

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Speaker 6: You know, Jack Benner, a big guard, basically hustling and

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Speaker 6: throwing his body around, getting.

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Speaker 3: Purdue a couple of extra possessions.

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Speaker 6: That was That was the game, you know, as Matt

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Speaker 6: Painter said that to the game we had, Purdue had

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Speaker 6: twenty more possessions than Nebraska and they needed every single

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Speaker 6: one of them and that was really a big deal.

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Speaker 1: For purduet Rian, do you believe that there's any evidence

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Speaker 1: other than just on the floor results, but when you

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Speaker 1: look at it up close, talk to guys, watch interactions,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Is there any reason to believe that Purdue

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Speaker 1: could have a chemistry issue.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: I think when teams aren't quite as sharp or quite

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Speaker 6: as good as you know people think they are, I

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Speaker 6: still think pretty is pretty good. They just have been

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Speaker 6: a little inconsistent. I don't think it's a chemistry issue.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what the issue is, to be honest

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Speaker 6: with you, If there is an issue, I think people

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Speaker 6: tend to gravitate toward dissension when trying to explain things

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Speaker 6: that are otherwise there's no clear explanation for. I think

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Speaker 6: these guys like one another.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 3: They've got pretty good chemistry together.

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Speaker 6: I think that you know, they've been through ups and

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Speaker 6: playing a little bit different roles. I don't see that

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Speaker 3: If that this season, he's just kind of said to

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Speaker 6: He's just rebounded and passed and played hard, and I

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Speaker 6: think he's having a good year. I don't think he's

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Speaker 6: having the first team All American season that you know,

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Speaker 6: people thought he might be able to have based on

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Speaker 6: what he did last year. But the rebounding piece of

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Speaker 6: this has been really big for him. And I thought

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Speaker 6: last night was a really good indication of guys coming

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Speaker 6: big shots and guys willing to It sounds so hopey

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Speaker 6: If that meant rebounding for trakeoff and ran last night,

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Speaker 6: that's exactly what he did. And you have to give

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Speaker 6: him credit for kind of standing down from an ego

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Speaker 6: perspective when he could be, you know, complaining about shots.

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Speaker 6: He could be complaining about his scoring numbers. But for

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Speaker 6: him to play the way he did last night places hardest.

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Speaker 6: He did last night, I thought, you know, kind of

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Speaker 6: spoke to a team that just prioritizes winning overall else.

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Speaker 1: Rank Neubert, my guest Golden Black is of course where

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Speaker 1: you can read his work. He's on the Java House

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Speaker 1: Peel and Port guest line. Brian up next for Purdue

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Speaker 1: is now, of course on this road trip or time

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Speaker 1: away from home is at Iowa. They have defeated Iowa

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Speaker 1: already in the first half of this series this year

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Speaker 1: in MACKI did so.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a seven or eight point game.

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Speaker 1: But Iowa I think plucky, you know, I think Iowa

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Speaker 1: actually is a challenge, especially on the road. If you

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Speaker 1: look back to the first matchup of these two, what

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Speaker 1: problems could Iowa potentially create for Purdue or what areas

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Speaker 1: does Purdue need to shore up from the first meeting?

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Speaker 3: Man, I barely remember last night. You're asking about a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. It's that it's that neck rattling turbulence, right.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to sit down later and try to remember

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Speaker 6: what exactly happened last night. It's all puzzle pieces and

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Speaker 6: the couch cushions here. I remember specific moments, but they're

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Speaker 6: all jumbled up. I have no idea what happened and when.

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Speaker 6: But if I recall that Iowa game, you know I

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Speaker 6: was guarding people now, which is kind of a novelty

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Speaker 6: for the history of their program.

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Speaker 2: Recently.

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Speaker 6: They're a good defensive team now under Ben McCollum, And

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, Purdue just played a really good

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Speaker 6: defensive team in Nebraska and did what it needed to do.

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Speaker 6: It didn't turn the ball over wholesale. I thought it

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Speaker 6: did a pretty good job executing. I thought it did

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Speaker 6: a good job improvising when you know, stuff got knocked out.

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Speaker 6: Fletcher Lawyers played Oscar Cluff for the game winner, being

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Speaker 6: the prime example. But I think Purdue is just going

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Speaker 6: to have to keep guarding the way they're guarding on

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Speaker 6: Bennett starts, the way they did on Price stand for

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Speaker 6: it last night, and some other guys, some of the

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Speaker 6: more combustible shooters Nebraska has didn't really do a whole

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Speaker 6: lot last night. I think that's a credit to produce defense.

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Speaker 6: They're going to have to keep doing that. They're gonna

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Speaker 6: have to keep being physical on defense, physical on the

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Speaker 6: glass without fouling. When you look at last night, getting

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Speaker 6: rink massed out of the game and overtime was huge,

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Speaker 6: but also Oscar Cluff and Tray coffin Moran.

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Speaker 3: Not picking up a ton of cheap.

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Speaker 6: Vowlves when they're you know, basically trying to beat the

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Speaker 6: hell out of out of Nebraska on the glass. So

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Speaker 6: all of that stuff. You have to be really disciplined

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Speaker 6: against Iowa and just be be the best version of

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Speaker 6: yourself for forty minutes. Perdue has had a consistency issue

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Speaker 6: here the last couple of weeks. So just finishing those

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Speaker 6: first halfs well, starting those second halfs well, starting the

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Speaker 6: game well, obviously finishing the game well. That's a lot

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Speaker 6: of game I just covered there, but some of those

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Speaker 6: things were not produced strength for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Brian, I just tried to be the best version of

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Speaker 1: myself for one hundred and eighty minutes per day, and

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Speaker 1: I will not lie to you.

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Speaker 3: There have been some consistency issues just so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I try to set the bar as low as

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Speaker 6: possborn feed it more often than not.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, you help out in my being the best

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Speaker 1: version of myself for at least ten of the one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty minutes.

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Speaker 3: So it's greatly appreciated.

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Speaker 1: Takeaways glasses have full tenacity on the glass and more

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Speaker 1: from produced When at Nebraska is the latest from Brian Nubert.

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Speaker 1: You can read it at Goldenblack dot com, part of

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Speaker 1: course of the ON three and Rivals Network online.

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Speaker 3: Brian, A pleasure as always, Man, appreciate it, no problem, Jake,

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Speaker 3: Thanks man I Brian Nubert joining us from gold and Black.

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Speaker 1: Eddie, how much of the last night I know you

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Speaker 1: were working the pacer game when you get home. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday that the Olympics to me are kind of

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Speaker 1: like the World Cup that I enjoyed just the opportunity

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Speaker 1: of having it on in the background, and there's kind

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Speaker 1: of always something there to watch.

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Speaker 3: How much have you paid attention to the Olympics to

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Speaker 3: this boy?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Here and there, I'm watching here right now over here

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Speaker 3: in the producer room. Well, thanks for paying attention. What

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Speaker 3: events are on right now?

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Speaker 1: The mogul? Oh yeah, yeah, the women's mogul is on

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Speaker 1: right now. Very fascinating to me. Those are important business people,

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Speaker 1: right yeah, okay, yeah, that the What is your favorite event?

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Speaker 1: What is your favorite Olympic event that you otherwise never watch?

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Speaker 1: Bob sled, Yeah, that's always cool. For the curling, the

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Speaker 1: loser's cool. Curling is cool too. Have you ever done curling?

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Speaker 1: I have not. There's an Indianapolis curling club. They were

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Speaker 1: kind enough to invite me out a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Uping Fishers, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: When I did it, it was over at the Colisseum, but yes,

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Speaker 1: and it was great.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean the.

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Speaker 1: The kind of sliding along and letting go of the disc.

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Speaker 1: It takes a second because you're worried that you're going

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Speaker 1: to fall over and then you don't realize it. But

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Speaker 1: the sweeping of the brooms there is a strategy there

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Speaker 1: because you're either trying to create ice shavings in front

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Speaker 1: of the disc if you feel it's going too fast yep,

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Speaker 1: or you're trying to if it's going too slow and

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Speaker 1: it needs more speed than you're trying to smooth out

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Speaker 1: the ice. And also you can direct it that way

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: It was fun.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was basically shuffle board on ayes. I

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Speaker 1: know people always use that terminology, but it was fun.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of the Olympics, are we going international again?

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Speaker 3: We are? I like this not Amory Tiernano this time.

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: Zach Keefer is with the Athletic He has been over

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Speaker 1: in Milano, Cortino or just.

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Speaker 3: Courtino Milan, whichever way you want to say it.

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Speaker 1: Basically, he's in Italy at the Olympics and going to

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Speaker 1: join us to talk about that and more next. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Zach Keefer is over in Italy covering the Olympic Games

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Speaker 1: for the Athletic. More on some of those topics and

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Speaker 1: stories in a second. But when we joined him here

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Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and poor guest line, it

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Speaker 1: is my understanding that he is in like a media

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Speaker 1: shuttle bus in Italy as we speak. Zach I realized

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Speaker 1: that over there it would be six point thirty if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, so probably after sunset. But can you

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Speaker 1: just kind of set the scene for the geography around

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Speaker 1: you and where it is that you're headed.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I am in the Italian Alps, which might

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Speaker 8: be the most breathtaking place on the planet I've ever seen.

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Speaker 8: I'm covering events in Lavigo, and I'm based in Bormeo.

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Speaker 8: So the long story, Jake is I basically take a

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Speaker 8: ninety minutes shuttle every morning and then every evening for

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Speaker 8: the duration of the games to get to the events

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Speaker 8: I'm covering, which is snowboarding and free skiing and stuff

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Speaker 8: like that.

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Speaker 1: And you're staying where exactly now, And actually, let me

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Speaker 1: rephrase that. So if you are in the Alps, and

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Speaker 1: the games themselves and the opening ceremonies were in Milan,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, so the epicenter is kind of Milan,

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Speaker 1: and that's the like the indoor stuff you see, curling

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Speaker 1: things like that, I believe are Milan. To use Indiana

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Speaker 1: Zach geography, the difference between the two locals would be

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Speaker 1: if Milan is Italy, then the area you are is

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Speaker 1: where in terms of geographically in comparison, if Milan is

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Speaker 1: in the app is like.

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Speaker 8: This is like the one thing that I had to learn,

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Speaker 8: and like no, like it's it's really hard to explain.

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Speaker 8: Like everyone's like, oh, were you there when Lindsey von krashed,

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Speaker 8: Like that's four hours away. So if if Milan is Indianapolis,

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Speaker 8: I'm like in Detroit, I'm like Clay up north in

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Speaker 8: the mountains. It's a completely different world. And like I

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Speaker 8: haven't even been able to follow, you know, some of

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Speaker 8: the other events that are going on in like the

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Speaker 8: bigger cities, like hockey and curling and figure skating, because

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Speaker 8: we're like in our own little world out here. But

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Speaker 8: I'm in this little little town called Bormeo, and it's

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Speaker 8: maybe just like the most gorgeous little town I've ever seen.

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Speaker 8: It's famous for the Stelvio, which is like this unbelievable

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Speaker 8: ski mountain that they have, and it's lit up at

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Speaker 8: night with these lights along the ski slope. It's one

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Speaker 8: of the most dangerous ski slopes in the world. And

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you, man, it's just it's just unbelievable to

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Speaker 8: come home and see that every night in this little

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Speaker 8: Italian town and drink some wine, have some pizza and

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Speaker 8: figure out how I'm gonna get back to Lavigne the

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Speaker 8: next day.

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Speaker 3: How are the people.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much interaction you've been able to

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Speaker 1: have with some of the locals, but if you have,

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Speaker 1: how have it been.

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Speaker 7: They've been great.

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Speaker 8: And the one thing that's crazy about the Olympics is

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Speaker 8: obviously the entire world this year, and so we're really

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Speaker 8: close to Switzerland. We're basically in Switzerland. We're so far

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Speaker 8: north in Italy, and Switzerland's like one of the biggest

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Speaker 8: power players in the Winter.

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Speaker 7: Games because these are their sports.

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Speaker 8: And so when we walk around town, it's like I've

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Speaker 8: been all these Super Bowls and you can feel like

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Speaker 8: you know the Eagles fans and the Chiefs fans. The

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Speaker 8: Swiss fans are like the most boisterous when it comes

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Speaker 8: to scheme because it's their bread and butter, right, So

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Speaker 8: it's really cool and like eye opening to experience that,

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Speaker 8: and like when their guys and their girls don't win,

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Speaker 8: like they're kicked off. So it's a different world and

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Speaker 8: I'm definitely seeing a lot more international fans than Team

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Speaker 8: USA fans.

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Speaker 1: Zach one of the things I find interesting, Zach Keeper

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Speaker 1: is our guest Jaba House Peel and poor guest line.

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Speaker 1: He's over in Italy in the Alps as we speak here.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I find interesting in reading

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Speaker 1: your articles and the coverage that you've done so far

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Speaker 1: is profiling athletes that in the Olympics are participating either

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Speaker 1: having recently come off injury or you know at some

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Speaker 1: point you have obviously we know about Lindsay Vaughn, but

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Speaker 1: but there are so many stories like that. Okay, have

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Speaker 1: you noticed when you talk to an athlete that is

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Speaker 1: coming back, a skier that's coming back from a devastating injury,

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Speaker 1: and you've profiled a couple of these, do you find, Zach,

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Speaker 1: that these athletes that are Olympians have an overwhelming resiliency

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Speaker 1: that allows them to come back from such an injury.

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Speaker 1: And that sort of resiliency over the course of their

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Speaker 1: career is the reason they're an Olympian. Or is it

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Speaker 1: that because they're an Olympian they're forced to find a

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Speaker 1: resiliency because of the once in a lifetime opportunity before them.

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Speaker 8: I would lean towards the latter, but you're onto something

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Speaker 8: because like, look like my day job is the NFL,

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Speaker 8: where the injury rate is one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: This is no different.

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Speaker 8: And Ryan Cochran Siegel, who I encourage everyone listening to

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Speaker 8: like follow, because this dude just bawled out and got

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Speaker 8: a silver medal over here against the Swift Powerhouse skiers

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Speaker 8: that I just mentioned. You know, no one thought he

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Speaker 8: was going to get silver four years ago he did.

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Speaker 8: No one thought he was going to get silver today,

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Speaker 8: and he did. And I talked to him at length

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Speaker 8: in November and December about his journey. And I mean,

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Speaker 8: this guy shredded his knee and had four surgeries. He

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Speaker 8: came literally like millimeters away from never skiing again after

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Speaker 8: breaking his collarbone, and it could have been a spinal

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Speaker 8: injury if it got worse. And I was talking to

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Speaker 8: him about the NFL and how so many guys get

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Speaker 8: hurt and all that, and he's like, well, it's really

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Speaker 8: the same except for one big difference, like someone else

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Speaker 8: is inflicting pain upon them.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing this to myself. It is.

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Speaker 8: It is absolutely wild, Jake, to see these ski slopes

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Speaker 8: in person and to realize that these guys are going

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Speaker 8: down them north of eighty miles an hour in Spandex.

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Speaker 8: I mean one flinch, one slip, on the ice one

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Speaker 8: wrong turn as you saw with Linday Von. I mean,

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Speaker 8: these are not just like injuries. These are like total fractures.

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Speaker 8: And we had a nasty, scary one today in the

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Speaker 8: halfpipe women's qualifying where this Chinese s fiwboarder was down

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Speaker 8: for fifteen minutes and she had to be you know,

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Speaker 8: exited with it on a sled. And I mean just

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Speaker 8: really horrific stuff. So it's the severity of the steaks.

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Speaker 8: It's all really really high, and they they are just

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Speaker 8: they are just incredibly courageous athletes to stick through it

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Speaker 8: and all of them, all of them have been through

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Speaker 8: multiple surgeries to get here.

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Speaker 1: Is there a sport, Zach, or maybe even a skill

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Speaker 1: set within an Olympic sport that this experience for you

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Speaker 1: has really opened your eyes towards or or I guess

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Speaker 1: a better way of asking it would simply be the

656
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: thing that five years from now, when you look back

657
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: on your experience in covering the games, that you're going

658
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: to say to yourself, what I gained that I never

659
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: anticipated gaining as an experience was what.

660
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 8: I think, It's an appreciation for the absurdity. So you know,

661
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 8: this sport really well. The Indianapolis five hundred. I will

662
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 8: watch the first lap of the Indianapolis five hundred from

663
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 8: the stands, from the media center wherever, and watch these

664
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 8: drivers go two hundred and thirty to two hundred and

665
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 8: forty miles an hour and think to myself, how is

666
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 8: this legal?

667
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 7: This is crazy?

668
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Right?

669
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 8: Like every year it hits me again like that that's

670
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 8: that that's okay, that that's still.

671
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 7: Something we do.

672
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 8: And I kind of had the same feeling watching these

673
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 8: skiers go down these mountains eighty miles an hour, like

674
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 8: I just mentioned, wearing nothing but you know, a centimeter's

675
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 8: worth of spandex. It's crazy to think about, Like I'm

676
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 8: a really bad skier. And I turned to a couple

677
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 8: of times and I follow a lot and like these

678
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 8: guys like what they do is is is borderline?

679
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 7: Like is this okay?

680
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 8: And you know there have been deaths like borderline, Like

681
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 8: there are flirting with death almost every time. And my

682
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 8: colleague Charlotte Harper wrote this great story today about like

683
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 8: the nerves and the mental warfare they go through at

684
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 8: the top of a hill and one of them said like, hey,

685
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 8: I could die today, Like that's what we're talking about,

686
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 8: and there's not that many stories where that here will

687
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 8: out Sea sports excuse me where that doesn't feel hyperbolic,

688
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 8: but it doesn't here because it's they are very much

689
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 8: tickling death every time they ski down these mountains.

690
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: When you cover the NFL, Zach you see Zach Keith

691
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: for my guests from the athletic obviously in the National

692
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: Football League, you know, no matter what two franchises are playing,

693
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: guys are familiar with the guys on the other team.

694
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: They do the jersey swap afterwards, they're you know, guys

695
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: they played against in college and et cetera. And I

696
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: realize that no matter what sport it is. In the

697
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: Olympic Games, these athletes are esoterically professionally competing in the

698
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: non Olympic years against those that they're seeing. So there

699
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: is familiarity there. But there still are nations that could

700
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: be represented that are of you know, not within the

701
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: normal scheduling of said sport. Do you see familiarity amongst

702
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: the athletes across the board? Or are oftentimes athletes going

703
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: against people of countries and other such that they've never

704
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: met before and the Olympics are the only thing that

705
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: bonds them.

706
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 7: That's another thing that's been so unique.

707
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 8: They all know each other and they all root for

708
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 8: each other, at least in the events that I'm covering,

709
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 8: Like these are all you know, power culture kids, right

710
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 8: that grew up in Salt Lake or Park City, the

711
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 8: Americans at least, or Colorado Springs or Steamboat And we're

712
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 8: in ski at two years old or was in a

713
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 8: snowboard at six years old and never got out of it, right,

714
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 8: Like Floy Kim was asked today about like like she

715
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 8: hadn't competed in ten months and she's got a dissocated shoulder,

716
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 8: and she gets out there today and she completely dominates

717
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 8: the first run of snowboarding qualls and everyone afterward is

718
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 8: like any.

719
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Speaker 7: Russ, Like where you you know Rusty at all?

720
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Speaker 8: And she's like, I've been snowboarding for twenty two years,

721
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 8: Like I can snowboard better than I can walk. So

722
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 8: they all grew up together, and they grew up competing

723
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 8: against each other, and it's not as cutthroat as you think.

724
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 8: Like Alex Hall is such a refreshing professional athlete. He

725
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 8: won silver yesterday in the slope style event where you

726
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 8: ski down the hill and do a bunch of tricks

727
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 8: on your way down and he was like literally rooting

728
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 8: for the other guys at the end of his run yesterday,

729
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 8: like to beat him, like just because like they don't

730
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 8: root against each other. They want their competitors to land

731
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 8: their jumps, to pull off their tricks.

732
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Speaker 7: It is certainly not what I see in the NFL.

733
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Speaker 8: And it's almost, you know, in the end of it

734
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 8: in the American way is like win or else. It's

735
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 8: he's a little bit different in that regard. That's been refreshing.

736
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 8: They certainly root for each other and they're all friends,

737
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 8: and it's it's very different in a lot of ways

738
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Speaker 8: than what I'm used to.

739
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Speaker 3: What's the best story you've witnessed, I'll.

740
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 7: Tell you this.

741
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Speaker 8: Maddy Shaffrick is an American snowboarder, and she was left

742
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 8: in tears today because she didn't make the final, And

743
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 8: I just reached out to her to tell her thank

744
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 8: you for letting me write about her. A couple of

745
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 8: weeks ago. She turned pro at fourteen. She quit it

746
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 8: twenty because she hated snowboarding.

747
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 7: She hated it. She was depressed. She went to AA.

748
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 8: She went to her parents' basement because she had no money,

749
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 8: and she ended up working as a plumber, and then

750
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 8: she got into coaching a little bit and decided.

751
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 7: To give it one last shot as a thirty year old.

752
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 8: And I'm telling you, all these snowboarders out here are

753
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 8: like seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty, and she was thirty and

754
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 8: she made it. Like she qualified for the US Olympic

755
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 8: team in December and January. She made it all the

756
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 8: way here. She was really bummed that she didn't make

757
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 8: the finals today, but I told her, like, forget the metals,

758
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 8: like forget the success, Like that's what the Olympics are about.

759
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 8: And it was really cool to see that thirty years

760
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 8: old making her first Olympic team after working as a

761
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 8: plumber not that long ago.

762
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: So needless to say, craft you on the halfpipe, right,

763
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: that be pretty obvious if you're plumber going into snowboarding.

764
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: Do you want to use that? I mean, I'm sure

765
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm not the first to come up with that, right.

766
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 8: Jake, I wrote sixteen hundred words on her and did

767
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 8: not think of that one time. Well, I'm kind of

768
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 8: a shamed, but I'm also not surprised that you noticed it.

769
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, I do what I can. Were you able

770
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: to go to Zach the opening ceremonies.

771
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 7: No, Milan is like five hours away.

772
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so I didn't know if like you went, you know,

773
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: A to B or you know, but you just you're

774
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: in that area. So the areas that you are covering

775
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: obviously snowboarding, skiing, that's pretty much everything in the area

776
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: where you are.

777
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: Not that that's not a lot. I mean there's plenty there,

778
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: right Yeah.

779
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 8: And then next week I get into ski mountaineering, which

780
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 8: is new, which essentially might be the most grueling sport

781
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 8: on the planet.

782
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 7: They climb a mountain with.

783
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 8: Skis, then they change into different skis and ski down it,

784
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 8: and they do this over and over again. I think

785
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 8: it's got to be like right up there with triathlons,

786
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 8: like the most grueling sport on the planet. So it

787
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 8: makes you to dig into that one.

788
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating journey for you. I mean, I think

789
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: everybody would say that they're envious. I know that you

790
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: are aware of the fortune you have in doing it,

791
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: but more importantly, the responsibility of helping bring it to us,

792
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: which you do with each and every time that you

793
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: write sixteen hundred words or whatever it may be, on

794
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: the different athletes everything from athletes skiing with a cadaver

795
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: in them after multiple surgeries to coming back from you know,

796
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: personal despair, all of it covered at the Athletic with

797
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Zach Kiefer. Zach, appreciate the time as always. How many

798
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: people are on the bus by the way right now?

799
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 8: There's two one of them's driving, thank goodness, and me.

800
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 8: We had a couple drop off a couple of minutes ago.

801
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 7: So it's a shorty bus right now.

802
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 3: You have the whole bus to yourself.

803
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, I mean it's a long trip. I'm telling

804
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 8: you it's not ideal.

805
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: So the driver is Italian obviously, right, Yes, how far

806
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: away are you sitting from the d I'm.

807
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 7: About a couple of feet from moving behind him.

808
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Can you does he speak English? Can you get him

809
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: to say an Italian like, you know, quarry and company,

810
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: it's beautiful to be in the company. Can you get

811
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: him to say that, like really loud?

812
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 8: I'm a little nervous to ask because we are on

813
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 8: the side of a mountain right now, and if he

814
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 8: takes his focus off, you might.

815
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 7: You might hear the end of me, the end of this.

816
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: Guy does it all the time?

817
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: Zach, Okay, Fine, It's like, listen him, this guy driving

818
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: around that mountain is the same as you trying to

819
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: navigate the with the Meridian street between forty second and

820
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: forty fourth. You've done it a million times, right, you

821
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: get to bump here there.

822
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: And a way.

823
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 7: Lit's it this way.

824
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 8: I have bought dramamine and pepto bismo for these drives

825
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 8: because they are acted on the stomach.

826
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, Well, keep it between keep it

827
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: between the lines. Zach, appreciate the time as always, Thanks guys.

828
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: All right, that's Zach keep for joining us on the

829
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Java House appealing port guest line. Very good stuff and

830
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. And I tell you now it makes me

831
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: want to go there. I mean, I've been to Italy

832
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: but not into the Alps of Italy, and I've been

833
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: to the Alps but not the Alps of Switzerland or Italy. Uh.

834
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: And that sounds like it would be absolutely beautiful, no

835
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: question about it. By the way, big show lined up

836
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: for you today, Nick Gardener are also going to join

837
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: us coming.

838
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: Up at the bottom of the one o'clock hour.

839
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: But when we come back, we'll get back into what

840
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: did happen last night? For the pacers in New York

841
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: and how fortune might have just happened to come their

842
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: way and sometimes that's what you need in basketball in

843
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: the first half of a two step that could work

844
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: out well for them. I'll explain next. By the way,

845
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: we prefer to call that the Brooklean Nets, it's a

846
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: sega baba okay tonight for the Pacers. Worth reminding Jake,

847
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: this is the third segaba on the last like a

848
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: couple of for the Pacers, and and the TJ.

849
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: McConnell second game of.

850
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Nimhar Aaron E. Smith have all missed. So is

851
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: there any belief that they will rest players tonight even

852
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: though you're going into the break.

853
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: I know there's not been an injury report filed by

854
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 4: the Pacers yet for the game tonight, but I would

855
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 4: expect so because if you look at the bench last night,

856
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 4: all the two way guys were there and they were

857
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: all dressed or not dressed, but they were all on

858
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 4: the bench, right, So Jathy Thompson, Taylor, Peter, those guys,

859
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: So they're all available, right, Well, they weren't available last night,

860
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: but you would assume they're. Yeah, they're there on this trip,

861
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: not that.

862
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: Anybody cares but I have I'm undefeated in my public

863
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: league fantasy basketball league. But I have Andrew Nimhart. Should

864
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: I rest him tonight? Should I bench him? Do you

865
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: have somebody that you can replace in the Startulm?

866
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: I can put in any of these three.

867
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: VJ.

868
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: Edgecombe in his place, That's one option. Kaishan George is

869
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: an option, and then Dyson Daniels. Dyson Daniels also day

870
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: to day though your thoughts, I'd probably go who did

871
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: the seventy six or Plann? I could move Jalen Sugs

872
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: or Drew Holiday into the guard position and then put

873
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: Derreck Queen in also, And You've got options optionality. That's

874
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: why I'm undefeated. You let me know what you think now.

875
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes life is about timing. Sometimes fortune comes your way,

876
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: and you know what, do we say that? Sometimes fortune

877
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: rewards the bold, sometimes also just the patient or the lucky.

878
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: And the Pacers have not had tremendous luck. It goes

879
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: without saying. Since winning Game six, things have more often

880
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: than not bounced the direction opposite of where they would

881
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: like it to. There is no doubt about that. There

882
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: have been and I don't need to necessarily sit here

883
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: and run down for you every possible scenario that could

884
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: have gone one way for them, that went the way

885
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: of the opposite of what you hoped or anticipated, because

886
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: there are a plenty of options to go with in

887
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: terms of if you were to spell out why the

888
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: basketball gods seem to have a vendetta against the Pacers,

889
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, it goes back to when Tim Kazarinski used

890
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: to do the Questions of Life on Saturday Night Live

891
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, and nine year old Jake is

892
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: watching it and sees him and one of his questions

893
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: is what does God have against the Indiana Pacers? And

894
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: I was thrilled to see Indiana represented on Saturday Night

895
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Live as a native of Indiana. And then I was

896
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: devastated because I realized it was a commentary on where

897
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: the Pacers ranked at the time. But maybe, just maybe,

898
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: finally timing in the basketball gods for the first time

899
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: in some six months went the way of Indiana. I'll

900
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: explain on the other side and Nick Gardner coming up

901
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: bottom of the one o'clock hour.

902
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: Now.

903
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: When it comes to music, Eddie Garrison is a little

904
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: bit of an older soul, I think greatly influenced by

905
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: his parents of the music, they played one of the

906
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: truer lines ever said in an Adam Sandler movie, which

907
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: there aren't not a lot of true lines said in

908
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler movies, But in the movie Big Daddy, Oh,

909
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna reference the wedding Singer, also

910
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: a good movie. Yeah, I didn't know if.

911
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: You're going to reference that song that sustains a few

912
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: words that we can't say.

913
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: No.

914
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: If you recall in Big Daddy, the character that he

915
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: plays is a dire fan of Styx. Yeah, and he

916
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: teaches the kid to say that Styx is one of

917
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: the most underrated bands of all time. I actually tend

918
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: to agree with that. I think Styx is pretty solid,

919
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, not like I don't think anybody thinks of

920
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: it as their mainstream number one band, but solid. Do

921
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: you think there's a bigger actor or celebrity that's probably

922
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: that's more approachable than that. I'm Standler, like you can

923
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: go up to and probably have strike up a conversation.

924
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: He'd be just like, Yeah, I'm an ordinary dude.

925
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: You know what.

926
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of videos though, where he seems

927
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: a little stand office, right really Yeah, McConaughey, Oh yeah,

928
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: I think I.

929
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: Told you my and we'll get into my pacer thing

930
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: here in a second.

931
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: My buddy that was a doctor in Austin, Texas, got

932
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: together with a bunch of his friends and they were

933
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: watching NFL games, a bunch of the other doctors, all

934
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: rooting for their you know, favorite teams, and McConaughey happened

935
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: to be in the bar, and my buddy like went

936
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: up to the bar to get like another round of

937
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: wings or beers or whatever, and looked over and McConaughey

938
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: was literally sitting there, and he's like, oh my god.

939
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: I guess McConaughey's pretty known around Austin just being a

940
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: dude around town. But my buddy, holy cal you know,

941
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of did a double take, introduced himself. McConaughey

942
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: was cool, you know whatever. My buddy was like, yeah,

943
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm just here with a bunch of doctors we live

944
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: for you know, we all grew up all over so

945
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: we come and watch games on Sundays. And McConaughey's like,

946
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: oh man, that's really cool. And then games come to

947
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: an end and tab comes and the waiterses. By the way,

948
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: Matthew and conaughey paid for all you guys. So I

949
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: always thought that was pretty cool. But Adam Taylor does

950
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: seem like cool dude, don't get me wrong.

951
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: Owhen Wilson is another one of those. Probably wow, I

952
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: like going Wilson.

953
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: A couple of notes real quick from the text line.

954
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: This from Richard Jake. Here's my Olympian feet for the day,

955
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: riding the rust off a forty foot container roof, getting

956
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: it ready for painting. Not bad for a seventy four

957
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: year old who's had hip and femurs screwed back together

958
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: with nine screws last June after.

959
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: A car crash. Hell yeah, let's go.

960
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Listening to the show makes it so much better. That

961
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: from Richard We just got tougher today, Richard, that is awesome.

962
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: And Richard tends pictures he should tend. He should teach

963
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 4: the cult players some things about toughness.

964
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: A little bit of grit, right, Yeah, awesome stuff. Also,

965
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: our buddy Trucker Chiefs fan Steve, and Steve is out

966
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: on the injured Reserve as well after having surgery on

967
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: his shoulder, but his wife Brenda routinely post pictures of

968
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: their dog, the best dog of the show, Milton Milton

969
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: the little rescue dog, and Milton's a senior citizen these

970
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: days for sure. But I love seeing on the regular

971
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: Brenda posting pictures of Milton going with her to work

972
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: and all the different things that Milton does, and it

973
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: just consistently reminds me as Eddie and I both know

974
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: that if you are out there, and I would ask

975
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: that you, of course only commit if you are willing

976
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: to commit for the lifetime of it. But if you

977
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: are contemplating adding a pet to the family, and you

978
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: go to the Humane Society or any of the shelters

979
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: and get a rescue pet, I can assure you and

980
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: promise you Boo Milton. The rest of them are all

981
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: testament to the fact you will. They are absolutely aware

982
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: of the fact that you are rescuing them and you

983
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: will not be sorry. My parents' dog, Rudy falls into

984
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: that category as well.

985
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: You were dog sitting the other day, right, Yes, Rudy

986
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: is a very cool book. So the PACER's Fortune.

987
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: This is a franchise that you could certainly make the

988
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: case in the argument that when it comes to trajectory

989
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: altering events has been on the wrong side more than

990
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: the right. You know, you've heard me mentioned before, I mean,

991
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: for that matter, going way back, going back to when

992
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: and I was just talking to Joe Copple, our colleague

993
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: about this. Alex English was a promising young player for

994
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers in the infancy of their NBA days

995
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: and a struggling franchise that was trying to curry any

996
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: sort of favor within its fan base and within this

997
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: market because it had made the transition from the ABA,

998
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: where it was a dominant franchise into the NBA where

999
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: it was fledgling, obviously, and one of the things that

1000
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: the the Pacers took into consideration was, you know, efforts

1001
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: and ways in which they could generate interest locally and

1002
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: maintain the relationship they had with the city that they

1003
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: had built up over the course of becoming a dominant

1004
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: ABA franchise. And one of the assistant coaches for the

1005
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets, who had George McGinnis on their roster a

1006
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: towards the end of his career, George McGinnis formerly you know,

1007
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: glory years of obviously Pacers ABA and then with the

1008
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: seventy six ers and NBA co MVP and all of

1009
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: those things, or maybe it was an MVP runner up,

1010
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: but either way, George McGann as a star player, but

1011
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: in the twilight of his career and the Denver Nuggets

1012
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: had an assistant coach who had coached Alex English in

1013
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: college at South Carolina and said, you know what, call

1014
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: Indiana and see if they maybe will want to sell

1015
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: some tickets by getting George McGinnis to come back and

1016
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: do some car ads for them, and we'll take Alex.

1017
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: English off their hands.

1018
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: And so the Pacers made that move, and one of

1019
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: the most prolific career scores in the history of the

1020
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: game went to Denver and left Indiana behind. And that executive,

1021
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: as I've told before, would later Larry Brown was the

1022
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: head coach of the Nuggets and had brought with him

1023
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: his old college teammate as an assistant, which is the

1024
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: one that facilitated that deal. And once Larry Brown had

1025
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: his time come to an end in Denver, George Irvin

1026
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: then went to Indiana and brought along with him that

1027
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: assistant coach, Donnie Walsh, who would ascend himself into the

1028
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: front office and make a lot of shrewd moves for

1029
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: Indiana on their behalf. But that was the first of

1030
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: a number of things where things just didn't work out

1031
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: for Indiana. Then of course you had I'm talking about

1032
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: that move with Alex English. Then you had in nineteen

1033
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: eighty three. I still remember it like it was yesterday,

1034
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: being a kid at Allisonville Elementary School in WIBC, our

1035
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: sister station. They pumped into true story, the PA system

1036
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: at schools so that we could listen to the WIBC

1037
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: broadcast of the NBA coin flip to find out if

1038
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: the Pacers would land the number one overall pick and

1039
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: be able to get Ralph Sampson. And of course the

1040
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: coin flip went the way of Houston and the Pacers

1041
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: ended up with Steve Stepanovitch, nice player, don't get me wrong,

1042
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: but not Ralph Sampson. That, of course was just two

1043
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: years before the Wayman Tisdale Patrick Ewing frozen bent envelope

1044
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: of the NBA Draft lottery. And you can go on

1045
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: and on and on, and sometimes things finally go your way.

1046
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: And I think what we just saw was exactly that

1047
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: the Pacers knew they needed a center. They knew that,

1048
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: and I will give them credit, a ton of credit.

1049
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: You know, there were a lot of uncertainties about this

1050
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: roster coming off of the Halliburton injury and everything going

1051
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: into this season how they were going to play. And

1052
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody was planned for the Miles

1053
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: Turner departure because of the way in which it happened.

1054
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: I think Indiana certainly felt like they were going to

1055
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: be given a legitimate chance to retain him, and that

1056
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: they were going to be essentially just out Halliburton for

1057
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: the year and then come back with the band back

1058
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: together for next season.

1059
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 3: And obviously that changed.

1060
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: So I'll give them credit for the acquisition of Jay

1061
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: Huff one that a move they probably did not anticipate

1062
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: having to make.

1063
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: And Jay Huff does fit.

1064
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: The style in which Indiana wants to play for the

1065
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: majority of time, a stretch center that can hit the three,

1066
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: that can protect the rim, block some shots and run

1067
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: with them a little bit. But the one area where

1068
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: Jay Huff does las or lag is the physical strength

1069
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: of the consistency to play down on the block.

1070
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: And that was an area that Miles Turner.

1071
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: It was not a strong suit of him defensively, but

1072
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: Turner was one that maybe he didn't play a lot

1073
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: through contact, but he was very and still is in

1074
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: Milwaukee with his style of play, you know, more of

1075
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: a faster paced center. So Indiana took care of that

1076
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, the half of it with Jay Huff

1077
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: of a fast paced guy, but they lacked still the

1078
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: muscle down low, and they knew that they needed to

1079
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: take care of that.

1080
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: And that's where.

1081
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: You know, Iviza Zubats comes into play, because this is

1082
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: a player that Indiana has had their eye on for

1083
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: a while.

1084
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: There are a number of.

1085
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: Guys that I think, you know, if you read the

1086
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: message boards to use an older term, but you know,

1087
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: if you looked at social media articles and listen to

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00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: different things, there were a handful of players that were

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00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: consistently mentioned as possibilities for the Pacers, certainly coming out

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00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: of New Orleans, coming out of Atlanta. You know, Jarrett Allen,

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00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: who any center that has a little bit of quicker

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: pace about them potential and Walker Kessler being hurt in

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00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Utah was mentioned to everybody, I mean, every team that

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00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: was looking for a center. But Zubox is a name

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00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: that was consistently linked to Indiana. And I don't know this,

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00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: but I go back to the summer of what year

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: Eddie was the Lebron James summer of I'm taking my

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00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: talents to South Beach.

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: Was that twenty ten eleven?

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Speaker 1: I believe it was two thousand and ten, Yes, I

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00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: recalled ten. A few years before that, July eighth.

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: A few years before that.

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00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: So beginning in like seven or eight, you started hearing

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00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: links of every team, rumors of every team, you know,

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00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: just so you know you're probably going to see some

1106
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: weird moves being made by the Suns because they're clearing

1107
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: cap space so that they're going to have the money

1108
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: to go after Lebron James. In twenty ten, every team

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00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: was doing it. Everybody was whispering about it at first,

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: and then you figured out that everybody had the same

1111
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: game plan, and that was clear the space and push

1112
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: all in.

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 3: And teams. If you recall back then, all of the.

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: Franchises started coming up with elaborate, expensive, detailed, strategic recruiting

1115
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: pitches to Lebron. The teams that were in play, it

1116
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: was the Clippers, it was the Knicks, it was obviously Cleveland,

1117
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: obviously Miami. The Lakers maybe were one that he allowed,

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00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: but he narrowed it down to like six teams and

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00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: he basically said, all right, here's the deal. I know

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Speaker 1: that in New York, and I can assure you one

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00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent factually, James Dolan and the brass of the

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00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: New York Knicks put together an entire thing to pitch

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00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: to Lebron James. They were gonna fly him in, They

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00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: were gonna put him on a helicopter and fly him

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00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: around Manhattan.

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00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: They were gonna have a dinner with Fat Joe. They

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: were gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump involved as a New York City mogul at

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00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: the time, all of it, and they had a whole

1130
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: thing on how they were gonna woo him to New York.

1131
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Miami thought the same of what they

1132
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: were gonna do. Everybody thought they were out thinking everyone else.

1133
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: And then Lebron James and his camp, if you will,

1134
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: basically said, you know what, We're gonna make this easy

1135
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: on it everybody.

1136
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: You'll be able to.

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00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: Come out to Akron, meet us in our offices, and

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00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: you get two hours to make your pitch. And it

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00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: was even across the board, and then he chose Miami.

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: The reason I'm saying all of that is because you

1141
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: maybe are about to see the same thing happening when

1142
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: it comes to Yanis Yannis and the perception or the

1143
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: understanding or the assumption across the league, across the world

1144
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: of sports, across all of it, that Yanis wants out.

1145
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: In Milwaukee, what you are going to see is a

1146
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: bunch of teams lining up to say, you know what,

1147
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: let's clear cap space, let's make room.

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00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: But Yannis is an international star.

1149
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: And he's played and I give him credit for this

1150
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, a middle market city, and brought them a championship.

1151
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: But now he wants out.

1152
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: So you would assume that if he wants out, franchises

1153
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: are going to look at it similar to the way

1154
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: they looked at the Lebron sweepstakes, and they're going to say, Okay,

1155
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: this guy probably is going to narrow it down to

1156
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: wanting to play in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago. I

1157
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: think Chicago might have been to play for Lebron as well, Miami,

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00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: et cetera. I don't think there are a lot of

1159
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: people that believe that Giannis, if he can pick his destination,

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: is like, let's go Memphis, let's go Bourbon Street. I'm

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: going to the Pelicans and one of those franchises that

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00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: one would assume was interested in Giannis or is trying

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: to put themselves in position.

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00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: Amongst many would be the Clippers.

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00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's go back to again going off precedent

1166
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: and putting together the pieces of the puzzle here of being.

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: Online detective. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I have always felt when Trent Richardson was traded to

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01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, sorry to bring up for all of

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01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: you an open wound, but when Trent Richardson was traded

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: to the Colts, what happened just before that? Two things happened.

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Speaker 1: The first is Vic Ballard, who had played well as

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01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 1: a rookie, got hurt and all of a sudden was out.

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01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: And the second is when that happened, the owner of

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: the Colts took to social media to drum up interest

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: in his franchise, to get his fans excited, to let

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: them know that all was in control. Because this still

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01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: was relatively recently after Bill Pollian had left the franchise,

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01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: and people were curious about the direction of the Indianapolis Colts,

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01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: the solidarity of the Indianapolis Colts, the decision making of

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01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, and Jim Mersey wanted to let the

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01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: fan base know all all is cool in the neighborhood.

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01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: I know you're all freaked out because Vic Mallard went down,

1184
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: But don't worry. Griggs is wheeling and dealing. And that's

1185
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 1: when you started seeing the post seismic whopper, a tsunami,

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: land lightning and thunder, and he was going on and

1187
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: on about the whopper that Ryan Griggson would land, and

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01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: don't worry about the fact that our running back went down.

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: Griggs has it all under control. And it is my

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01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: belief simply that. But it is my belief that at

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: that time the Cleveland Browns, because Ryan Griggson later and

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01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: the Colts both later admitted that it was the Browns

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01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: that initiated the first phone call in regards to Trent Richardson,

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01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: a guy who was coming off a pretty productive rookie

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01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: year and a prolific college career and was a top

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: three pick in the same draft as Andrew Luck. And

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Speaker 1: it is my belief that the Cleveland Browns called the

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01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: Colts and said, your owner is going on and on

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Speaker 1: about how you need a land a whopper, and let

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Speaker 1: me make you an offer about the flame broiled sandwich.

1201
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: We've got for you a top three pick, an eight

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: hundred yard back as a rookie, a prolific career. Imagine

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Speaker 1: him with Andrew Luck make us an offer. And the

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01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: Browns were proactive in making that phone call because they

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01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: basically got rumblings that Indianapolis was in the market. I

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01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: think it's entirely possible that what you have now when

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01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: it comes to the move that the Pacers just made,

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01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: was the Pacers looked at it and said, we need

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01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: a center. And that's not to say that Los Angeles

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01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: is putting an ad on Facebook marketplace to make an

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01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: offer for their center. But if Indiana had gotten word,

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: or even themselves speculated without getting word about it out

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01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, that the Clippers might be trying to

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: clear cap space in order to get themselves into position

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: to get Yannis. And Indiana knows that there's a piece

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01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: there on a very friendly contract, mind you, that fits

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: exactly what Indiana wants, then it would have been wise

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: of Indiana to, and this point, play the part of

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01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Hey guys, let me tell you what

1220
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: the word on the street is. Let me tell you

1221
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: what the anticipation is. You've got the expectation, the possibility,

1222
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: the rumblings of landing yourself a whopper of getting the

1223
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: big shock and awe SHOTU and lightning of bringing Giannis

1224
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles as a Clipper. But you're gonna have

1225
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: to make room at the end. And in that event,

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01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: what if we told you did we have two young players,

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01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: both of which are on contracts, one of which is

1228
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: about to expire, and we're willing to send that to

1229
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: you to take a contract back that is locked in

1230
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: for you for a few years in Zubots, albeit a

1231
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: friendly term deal, not a big number. But you've got

1232
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: to start carving space, So why not take on two contracts,

1233
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: the bigger of the two of which is about to expire.

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01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: And Indiana in this circumstance for a franchise that has

1235
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: been very savvy with their trades over the years, but

1236
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: at times things just have not in timing fault, you know,

1237
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: fell their way. This may be one of them where

1238
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: the timing was there and the savviness was there. I

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01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: don't know if any of that factually, I was not

1240
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: told any of that. There are times where I will

1241
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 1: say things on the air and I'll say I've been

1242
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: told this, or what if I told you this?

1243
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: This is not one of those. This is strictly me.

1244
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Connecting dots of potentially what went down, But either way,

1245
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: they now have themselves a starting center. And in addition

1246
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: to that, and yes, we don't know when we will

1247
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: see him on the floor, there's no urgency of that

1248
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: other than what we talked about. Trying to get the

1249
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: timing down with Pascal Siakam the big thing, but a

1250
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: big part of that timing and spacing witham.

1251
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 3: Spacing is probably the better word here.

1252
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: A lot of that is going to come down to

1253
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: working with Halliburton, which of course he's not on the

1254
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: floor yet. But last night, I think what you saw

1255
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: is the reminder, and I think it's important for the

1256
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: Pacers to remind themselves of this, let alone other franchises.

1257
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: But if you look, is there any coincidence? I will

1258
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: ask you Eddie Garrison, as the producer of the Pacers

1259
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: Radio Network, the Pacers in the last month, their two

1260
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: best efforts, or their two best wins are which two.

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01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: Out Oklahoma City and at New York okayast night, Okay,

1262
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 4: you can make the case last night soon was the

1263
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 4: most impressive win.

1264
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: Of the season. Okay, at Oklahoma City and at New

1265
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: York last night. Yeah, last year, and by last year,

1266
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean eight months ago, the Indiana Pacers found themselves

1267
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: one half away from an NBA title. Who are the

1268
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: last two franchises that they had to play in series?

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01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: In the postseason? Oklahoma City in New York, I think

1270
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: what you saw last night? As I mentioned off the

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: top of the show, Joaquin Phoenix did a documentary, a

1272
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: mocumentary if you will, some fifteen eighteen years ago called

1273
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm Still Here, And it was a documentary that was

1274
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: done to show the absurdity of benefit of the doubt

1275
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: that celebrities get once they reach a point of their celebrity.

1276
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 3: And of course it.

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01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: Was most notably recognized when he went on David Letterman

1278
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: and acted completely out to lunch and people are like,

1279
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: what in the world is going on with Joaquin Phoenix?

1280
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: And it generated all this discussion. Did you see Waquin Phoenix.

1281
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: On Letterman Man? He had no idea what was going on?

1282
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: You know, Letterman?

1283
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: The first thing he said is what can you tell

1284
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: us about your time with the unibomber Man. He was

1285
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: just completely out there. Then you later find out it's

1286
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 1: because he and his brother in law, Casey Affleck, were

1287
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: doing a documentary about what happens once you become famous

1288
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: enough that people just always believe in you, and so

1289
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: he wanted to see how far he could push it

1290
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: and still get people to buy into whatever he was peddling,

1291
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: and that was it was all a ruse. And the

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01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: name of the documentary is I'm Still here, because what

1293
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: he wanted to let you know was even though you

1294
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: saw this wacky character on you know, doing a music

1295
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: rap career and going into nightclubs and whatever else, it's

1296
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Speaker 1: still as Joaquin Phoenix, and the brilliance of understanding the

1297
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: art of it all is still there. And I think

1298
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: for the Indiana Pacers, what you've seen is that, yes

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Speaker 1: they've had to undergo.

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Speaker 3: A makeover. Yes they've had to change their roster.

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Speaker 1: Yes they've had to play with players because of injury

1302
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: this year that normally wouldn't get on the floor. But

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: they wanted you to know we're still here, and they

1304
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: sent that message last night again when we need to

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01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: and push all in, we're still there, even though right

1306
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: now we're masquerading as a team that is trying to

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Speaker 1: get itself in keeping one of those top four picks.

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Speaker 3: And I thought last night was a really good win.

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01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you also scoreboard, watch it

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: and go, okay, are they still within range of those

1311
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: top four? And I think that dichotomy is something to

1312
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Speaker 1: watch as we continue forward. Butler is in action tonight

1313
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: taking on in Connecticut one of the best, Danny Hurley

1314
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: and the fast paced Huskies and.

1315
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Speaker 3: The Indiana mister Basketball.

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Speaker 1: Nick Gardner Butler Radio will be of course on the

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Speaker 1: call for it, will help us break it down.

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Speaker 3: Next.

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Speaker 1: One of the best programs in college basketball taking on

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Speaker 1: Butler tonight seven thirty tip the Dogs in Yukon. You

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: can hear it on our sister station, Fuego coming up

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01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: again seven point thirty tonight, pregame at seven o'clock. Nick

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Speaker 1: Gardner will be on the radio call for it, and

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Speaker 1: Nick reality is this. This is a challenge for Butler

1325
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: because trying to get back in the win column, but

1326
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: it comes not only against one of the best teams

1327
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: in the country, but in addition to that, where Butler

1328
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: has had to And I want to get into this

1329
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: first and foremost because it's not necessarily, you know, a

1330
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: mainline statistical player, but anytime that you have somebody that

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: goes down and is a rotational player, it can impact

1332
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Speaker 1: how you slot things and I'm talking about Xavier Robinson,

1333
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: the kid from Indianapolis that we now know is out

1334
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: for the year with injury. How does that alter in

1335
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: any way the fad model approach.

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01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Jake. I think it alters a

1337
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 2: big time.

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01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you go back to the start

1339
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 5: of you know, November December.

1340
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: You know, it was thought that Xavier was going to be.

1341
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 5: A backup point guard, right Jalen Jackson was here.

1342
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: He was the veteran. He goes down earlier.

1343
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 5: In the season, and now just as I really thought

1344
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 5: a Zavier had.

1345
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: Really he had kind of carved out his role in

1346
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: the game, had slowed down for him.

1347
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 5: At times I thought he looked really good, you know,

1348
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 5: at Seaton Hall and some of these wins, and then

1349
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 5: just when you feel like you're getting some momentum, uh,

1350
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 5: he goes down and now he's out. So now you know,

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01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 5: you're really you're dealing with a third point guard that

1352
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 5: you're going to have to go in and start.

1353
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of tweaking you have to do.

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01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 2: And frankly because of the.

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Speaker 5: Raw, because of having to swing some people around, you know,

1356
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 5: a loss at point guard, it changes a couple of

1357
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 5: different positions just because of how the team is built.

1358
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Speaker 2: So it certainly does change things.

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Speaker 5: And there's no tougher challenge than what they face tonight

1360
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 5: with Yukon coming in and a Yukon team coming in.

1361
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 5: Jake off of their first loss in a couple of months,

1362
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 5: having dropped one to Saint John's last.

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Speaker 3: Week, and I want to get to that, Nick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you played, you know, the game you played

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01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: for Butler, so you know this aspect of it from

1366
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: a psychological standpoint when you look at Butler and you

1367
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: know coming you talk about coming off of a loss

1368
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: with Butler dropping a game in double overtime at Providence,

1369
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: in a game maybe they felt like they obviously in

1370
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: double overtime, you know, you could have had it. But

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Speaker 1: getting that close and then dropping that sort of a

1372
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Speaker 1: tough game. And then you turn around against Marquette, who

1373
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: is completely regrouping this year, and you.

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Speaker 3: Get beat on the road by fifteen.

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Speaker 1: How much of that do you think is hangover from

1376
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: being so close yet so far in Providence?

1377
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Speaker 2: It's hard to say.

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Speaker 5: I think it's absolutely something that if you're a coach,

1379
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 5: you've got to you've got to think about and try

1380
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,839
Speaker 5: to avoid at all costs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about a game where you know you.

1382
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 5: Have two free throws to win that with just over

1383
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 5: and they ended up putting some time back on, but

1384
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 5: it was about a second left roughly.

1385
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Speaker 2: And so I think that's the challenge.

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01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 5: Right for coaches, and whether it be coming off a

1387
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 5: tough loss, whether it be something else outside of basketball.

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01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: That these guys are dealing with.

1389
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Speaker 5: How are you able to get your group to be

1390
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 5: ready to go at their best, playing free, playing easy,

1391
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 5: playing again at their best and as well as they

1392
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 5: can thirty two or thirty three times a night or

1393
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 5: a season with all that stuff going on. And so

1394
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 5: but it's human nature to do that, and I think

1395
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 5: that's the challenge that these coaches have. It's hard to

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Speaker 5: say how much it affected Butler. I thought in that

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01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: Marquette game, the Dogs they didn't start out great, that

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Speaker 5: they were really grinding and kind of hanging in there,

1399
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Speaker 5: and then Marquette got some turnovers they were making, I mean,

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Speaker 5: they made like five threes to start that second half.

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Speaker 2: And then it kind of snowballed on them.

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Speaker 5: But that is absolutely a challengeing to me in college

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01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 5: these days, that's really one of your biggest challenges how

1404
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 5: do you get your guys to be ready to go

1405
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 5: night in and night out with all the other stuff

1406
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 5: going on, including how you may have dropped the game,

1407
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 5: or how do you handle success if you wanted.

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: That's really the challenging.

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Speaker 3: Toaching to me, Nick, what has jumped out at you?

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Speaker 1: Nick Gardner's my guest, Java House peeling, poor guest Line

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: Butler and Connecticut Tonight seven point thirty tip. Obviously Butler

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Speaker 1: has or excuse me, Yukon has Brama Mullins from Greenfield Central,

1413
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: the mister Basketball, and it looks like things he's been

1414
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: good really out of the womb for Connecticut. You saw

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01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: him score double digits first go round with Butler. But

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01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: in looking at Connecticut and their style and what Danny

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01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: Hurley does, what has jumped out about Mullins and maybe

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: even some of the footing that he's had here of

1419
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: late in the last month.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I was impressed with is as

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01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 5: you said, he was hurt early, so he didn't start,

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01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 5: didn't play early, but he's played started thirteen games.

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: How he's played seventeen and like I go back one

1424
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,520
Speaker 2: of the first games.

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Speaker 5: I caught when he was playing was in late January, Jake.

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01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 5: It was against Providence, ironically, and they were down late

1427
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 5: in that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean they are.

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 5: Running stuff for Braylan Mullens in late clock situations, in

1430
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 5: like crucial situations already. Right, that was, you know, late

1431
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 5: January of his freshman year in the Big East. I

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 5: mean that was probably ten or so games in you know,

1433
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 5: not even so that's what And he's delivered as well

1434
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 5: and so and then also just reading and hearing how

1435
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 5: glowingly Dan Hurley talks of Braylan Mullens. I think he's

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01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 5: a guy that coach Early really likes being around.

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: I think look, I think sometimes when you get at

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: a pro like.

1439
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 5: Yukon, there can be a lot of stuff outside of

1440
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 5: just basketball with high level recruits. And it sounds like

1441
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 5: Dan Hurley appreciates.

1442
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: Man, it's a lot of.

1443
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 5: Just ball with Braylan Mullens, and he has stepped up

1444
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 5: and delivered. And they're a really really balanced team and

1445
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 5: that's what makes them so tough to cover because they

1446
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 5: run really good stuff and they can run something for

1447
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 5: basically everybody out on the floor, and that's not always

1448
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 5: the case with teams. Usually there's two or three guys

1449
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 5: that you're running stuff for. Man, there's all five guys

1450
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 5: you go down the roster, there's probably a couple on

1451
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 5: the bench that they run things for too, that he's

1452
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 5: really confident in doing so. So to me, that was

1453
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 5: proof man he trusts in and Brayln Mullens has delivered

1454
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 5: in those crucial situations.

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01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at a player going from

1456
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: high school to college, you kind of never know. Nick,

1457
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know this what the learning curve is

1458
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: going to be. And in particular, it's easy to look

1459
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: back at a player from a high school standpoint and say, well,

1460
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, and now I get they played smaller schools

1461
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: against lesh Car. I'm not saying this case with Mullins,

1462
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: but has has AAU basketball and the year long travel

1463
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: stuff reduced that learning curve. In other words, are players

1464
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: now going to college already kind of plug and play

1465
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: ready because they have seen so many different styles and

1466
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: levels of competition, not in high school but rather in

1467
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Speaker 1: the summertime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I think they're just they've played a ton of games, obviously.

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Speaker 2: I think another thing that it's helped is just when

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01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: you look at.

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Speaker 5: How players develop, a lot of kids they're just more skilled,

1473
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 5: I think than they wear back.

1474
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Speaker 2: In the day.

1475
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 5: Like, look, when I was coming up, I just go

1476
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 5: to the y and play ball, right, we'd played pickup

1477
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 5: and things like. Now you have more specialist guys doing

1478
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 5: more training type stuff, and they're just they seem to

1479
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 5: come out and be much more skilled at a younger age.

1480
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 5: And then with the exposure on the different circuits and

1481
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 5: playing in these high level competitions against other high level

1482
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 5: players for so long, when you get a guy who

1483
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 5: has had that experience, it does.

1484
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: Seem like you can plug and play them a lot better.

1485
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 5: And then you add in the other stuffs right that

1486
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 5: I kind of mentioned, where if a guy who is

1487
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Speaker 5: really focused and has you have his attention, he's played

1488
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 5: in those big games, you're going to be able to

1489
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 5: plug and playing. There's not going to be a bunch

1490
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 5: of distractions on the side. So I think that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 5: It's changed how they develop, both in the competition they've

1492
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Speaker 5: played and how they've trained.

1493
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: Leading up to how many different Butler teams have we

1494
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: seen this year? And you know, grasp what I'm saying

1495
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: there right in terms of whether it be personnel or

1496
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: whether it be necessity of scheme, the different ways in

1497
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: which they have had to or the number of different

1498
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: looks they have been able to put out.

1499
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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you know you've got the plan at

1501
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 5: the start of the year, the Jalen Jackson goes out,

1502
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 5: and so then you kind of have to reset and

1503
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 5: you've got Xavier sliding in there.

1504
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: And you kind of get in settled, and now he's out.

1505
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 5: So I would say this is certainly like kind of

1506
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 5: your third iteration.

1507
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: Of that, And in saying that, I mean that.

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 5: You have to really look at how do we play now,

1509
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 5: how are we going to attack, how are we going

1510
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 5: to guard?

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: How are we going to do things differently with this personnel?

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 5: And then if you look within that Jake, you know

1513
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 5: that group has played differently at times. I mean, there

1514
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 5: have been games when the two halves look vastly different.

1515
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 5: And I think that's the challenge in Hey, if you're

1516
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 5: able to compete for twenty minutes, what can you do

1517
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 5: to maintain that level of competitive edge throughout the full

1518
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 5: forty even if shots aren't falling, even if things aren't

1519
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 5: going your way. So certainly there's been two or three

1520
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 5: different versions. In those versions Jake, are really hard because

1521
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 5: you're talking about a point guard position, the head of

1522
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 5: your team, where it's really hard to redefine and reassess

1523
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 5: when you're without that single position.

1524
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 2: So you've had to remake.

1525
01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 5: Things while adjusting and probably the most important position.

1526
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: On the court.

1527
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to know this.

1528
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: You said that when you were a younger player, it

1529
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: was just a matter of going to the y and

1530
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: hooping for the day, right, I mean the number of

1531
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: winter saturdays spent at the Jordan YMCA probably countless for

1532
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: both of us, Right, I want to know the best

1533
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: two players that you used to have to play pick

1534
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: up ball with in the off season that you're like, Man,

1535
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 1: people don't realize just how darn good that guy was,

1536
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: whether or not they played high school, college level or not.

1537
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 5: Man, there were some unbelievable games over at that Jordan, Why, Jake,

1538
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 5: as you know, like I remember when the season would end,

1539
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 5: everybody would just go over after school and run.

1540
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 2: Games, and man, there.

1541
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 5: Are so many because I remember being a freshman or sophomore, right, and.

1542
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: All the old guys are over there.

1543
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 5: So I remember, like whenever James and Jason Gardner were

1544
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 5: on the same squad, over there. That was going to

1545
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 5: be a tough one to be right, Like when you're

1546
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 5: talking about the Norse guys, there were so many.

1547
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: Whoever Monte Crowder by chance Jake.

1548
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 3: I do know that name. Where did he play?

1549
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 5: He played it? He played North Stent. I can't remember

1550
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 5: where he went, but I just remember as a freshman.

1551
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: He was a junior or senior.

1552
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 5: And the dude was a beast. I mean like six

1553
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 5: four six', five could could, move could do. Things and

1554
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 5: he was a guy WHO, i for some, reason would end.

1555
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: Up matched up on. Sometimes and that's the name that sticks, out, like,

1556
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: MAN i used to hate having to guard that. Guy

1557
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 2: that wouldn't even.

1558
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: Fair, eddie did you just tell me in my ear

1559
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: that you Find Nick gardner to be audibly?

1560
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: Sexy is that what you?

1561
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: Said?

1562
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

1563
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 4: You remember the last time we Had nick on who

1564
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 4: we created our band because you said you're sounding audibly?

1565
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: Sexy SO, I, nick DID i say that? THAT i

1566
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: say you're audibly? Sexy is that?

1567
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 3: Right?

1568
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 5: WELL i think IF i, RECALL i asked how you

1569
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 5: were doing and you, SAID i don't usually say this,

1570
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 5: often But i'm feeling kind of sexy with. That, well you,

1571
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 5: know and, sexy and then we had a band, going

1572
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 5: AND i told YOU i know the.

1573
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: Feeling.

1574
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: Nick let me tell you something here and thank you

1575
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: for bringing that back. UP i might not say it

1576
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: a lot THAT i feel, sexy but just about every

1577
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: DAY i do feel, sexy AND I i typically WHEN

1578
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: i walk out of the, HOUSE i it takes me

1579
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: a little bit longer in the morning BECAUSE i got

1580
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: to stop in the mirror three times and just admire,

1581
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: it you know WHAT i.

1582
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 3: Mean, Yeah so.

1583
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 5: Basically what you're saying is we should only like that's a,

1584
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 5: given so it should only get spoking and take your feeling.

1585
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 3: Unsexed that's that's. Correct the.

1586
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: Anomalies the anomalies are the days when When I'm i'm

1587
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: not feeling this.

1588
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: Way.

1589
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 4: WELL i brought this, Up, nick To jake in his,

1590
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 4: ear just to see if you've been, practicing BECAUSE i

1591
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 4: know we've got a concert coming up, Soon that's ALL

1592
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 4: i was.

1593
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: Wondering, well we, have.

1594
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: But i'm not Gonna we're not Gonna i've been.

1595
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 5: Practicing we're gonna have to make him come to the show, though,

1596
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 5: Right we're not gonna give him a speak or.

1597
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: Anything you know what this.

1598
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: Is it's ast the, audibly the audibly sexy. Trio Although,

1599
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 1: Eddie i'm not sure that you've worked your way into

1600
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: this just, yet, RIGHT i Mean nick AND i kind

1601
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: of got it down to an art here in terms

1602
01:21:59,320 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: of just the.

1603
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 3: Overall AND i can tell.

1604
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: YOU i, Mean, nick you, know you go out and

1605
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: you order a pizza or, something and people immediately, say

1606
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: aren't You Nick, gardner that of the audibly Sexy Butler Radio,

1607
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 1: network that's What and you know you're, like, yeah, OKAY

1608
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: i don't know That eddie is on the roster just, yet, Right.

1609
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: Jake i've had to quit going out because people so

1610
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: much about.

1611
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: This, YEAH i know the, feeling, Yes but for, me

1612
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: it's because most of my owe them money and if

1613
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: they if they recognize my, Voice i'm in real.

1614
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 3: Trouble right all.

1615
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: Right you can hear the audibly Sexy nick tonight at

1616
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: seven point thirty over on our sister, Station fuego pregame

1617
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: at seven. O'clock it Is, Butler it Is connecticut. Tonight,

1618
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: nick appreciate the.

1619
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: Time as. Always i'll let you know when we have band.

1620
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: PRACTICE i appreciate as, Well.

1621
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: Jake i'm ready, whatever all.

1622
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: Right Appreciated Nick gardner joining us on the, Program eddie

1623
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: would what do you? THINK i, no no offense. HERE

1624
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: i just feel like you know what you need to

1625
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: start doing is smoking? More just give a little bit

1626
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: or based on the?

1627
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 3: Voice? Yeah, yeah that? Helps, no thank? You you know

1628
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 3: WHAT i?

1629
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: Mean you're either born with it or you become Like Sam,

1630
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: elliott you know WHAT i mean a lot of. Heaters

1631
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: what if you are you saying you've NO i was

1632
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 1: born with?

1633
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 8: It?

1634
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: Oh, okay my, dad it's. Genetic my dad has a great.

1635
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: Voice really, okay for what it's. Worth who has the

1636
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: most distinguished and recognized voice In?

1637
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 3: America do you believe.

1638
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: Not necessarily their the way they, speak but just their

1639
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: voice in?

1640
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 3: General who would you? SAY i don't, Know Morgan, Freeman.

1641
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: But Morgan freeman's is largely the way he, speaks like his, dialect, right.

1642
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: Same with.

1643
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 3: McConaughey, McConaughey it's the way he.

1644
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: SPEAKS i, Mean James Earl jones would have been say,

1645
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: that that would have, Been but of course he's no

1646
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: longer with, us, right but someone of that Ilk Eddie murphy,

1647
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: AGAIN i go back to that's more the way he

1648
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: speaks as opposed to just the tone of his. VOICE i,

1649
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: mean there are that's the, challenge you, know is? It

1650
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: is it that you know the manner in which they're

1651
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 1: speaking or just the tone of their. Voice arnold Sam

1652
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: elliott is way up, There Arnold. Schwarzenegger, yeah, again that's accent, though,

1653
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: right that's the way he.

1654
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 3: Speaks but the, pitch if you, Will Jennifer, coolidge that's.

1655
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: It how'd you?

1656
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't Know Sam elliott With Sam elliott of

1657
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: course now In, landman BUT i still think WHEN i

1658
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: think Of Sam, ELLIOTT i think of him in. Mask hey,

1659
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: rock go and get me a. Beer but, again that's

1660
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: the way he. Speaks but you know he kind of.

1661
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: Mumbles Brian, Cranston Walter.

1662
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: White, yeah and now they have him doing some forward.

1663
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: Commercials you, Know i'll tell you the most famous. Voice

1664
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: AND i don't know what about the guy that does movie.

1665
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Previews it's the same guy for every.

1666
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 3: Movie who is.

1667
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: That we've got two people chiming in with the same.

1668
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: Name nick And james both Say Gilbert. Gottfried, yeah that's up,

1669
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: there but no longer with, us, right that's what they both.

1670
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 3: Acknowledge, Yeah Jim Nance, Hello.

1671
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: Jim nantz is a good. One that's a very good.

1672
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: ONE i Mean Joe buck for that. Matter right when

1673
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: you hear his, voice you automatically know not only do

1674
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: you know who it, is but you also feel like

1675
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: it's a big. Game chris Collins, worth you, know here's

1676
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: a guy last night speaking of here's a, guy here's

1677
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: a moment For? Purdue was it a boulder in the.

1678
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: Stream we'll discuss. NEXT I Love me some the man

1679
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: in the, mirror that's right. Now Michael jackson would be

1680
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: one if he was still. Living when you hear him,

1681
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: talk you immediately know who based on his, voice not his.

1682
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: Diction if he were just reading the, alphabet you would

1683
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: know it's. Him, this by the, WAY i really did

1684
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: think Upon Michael jackson's. PASSING i really did think this

1685
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: would become his posthumous signature.

1686
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: Song BUT i think it's.

1687
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Still what would you, say is that what is the

1688
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: signature song Of Michael. Jackson it's hard to argue, that

1689
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: but because of the fact that that's the, eponymous you,

1690
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: know title for the album and the. Video the, video

1691
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: IT'S i feel like everyone loves the video and the

1692
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: album Of, thriller but you never hear people singing along

1693
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: to the Song thriller it's kind of weird Or Billy.

1694
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: JEAN i Think Billy jean might be it because just the,

1695
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: opening everyone immediately knows what it is and you hear

1696
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: it still. Regularly BUT i do Think man of The

1697
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: mirror is a great sea beat it to beat its

1698
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: way up. THERE i, mean you could go off the wall,

1699
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: stuff but in bad you, know there's there's a ton

1700
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 1: right last night For.

1701
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: Purdue you, Know purdue this season.

1702
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: Is a little bit like the career Of Michael jackson

1703
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: and the fact That Michael jackson. Had you, know you

1704
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: had The jackson Five Michael, jackson and then you had

1705
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: the off the Wall i'm now completely doing my own

1706
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:29,520
Speaker 1: Thing Michael. Jackson and then you had the creative dancing

1707
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: Level Michael. Jackson and then later you, know he reinvented

1708
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: even again himself with some of just the theatrics of like.

1709
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 3: Smooth, criminal that sort of.

1710
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: Thing there are different elements of his career of what

1711
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: performer he, is And purdue this, YEAR i think has

1712
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: had different periods of The at the beginning of the,

1713
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: year they looked literally like an unstoppable. Force then they

1714
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: went through a period AND i think it was an

1715
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: acclamation of figuring Out, kaupman W rehn And kluff and

1716
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 1: how that's gonna work and whether or not you Know

1717
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Trey kaufman W rehn offensively, speaking is there a resentment

1718
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: there almost that some of his area was being taken

1719
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,919
Speaker 1: up and they.

1720
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 3: They lost themselves a little.

1721
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 1: Bit BUT i thought last night was really big because

1722
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: you go in And nebraska is a really good. Team

1723
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: AND i know Yesterday Andy kendy had mentioned AND i

1724
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: understand it that you don't feel like that's a big

1725
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: time road environment and.

1726
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 3: Win because It's. Nebraska but that is a veteran.

1727
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: Team that's a team that has older players that, are you,

1728
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,440
Speaker 1: know kind of. Unflappable And purdue came out in immediately

1729
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: set tone and as that AS i saw people say,

1730
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: like this is an epic collapse By. Purdue, WELL i,

1731
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: mean was it an epic collapse or Was water fighting

1732
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: its level of two really good? Teams when it came

1733
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: down to, It purdue found a. Way now that's what

1734
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,480
Speaker 1: great teams. Do, now what is the cameo In? Rockwell

1735
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: what's that For? Purdue, boy that's that's, outstanding you, know

1736
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: the cameo In rockwell though, that like most people don't

1737
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: most people that let me think Of i'd have to

1738
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 1: look at their, Schedule what was a, game what was

1739
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: a period they had this year where they won simply because,

1740
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: okay was there a? Game perdue won this year Where?

1741
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Oregon The oregon game was their cameo in the Rock.

1742
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Wells somebody's watching me because in the, end the whole,

1743
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: time you're, like what who is? This and they're, like

1744
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: you know what it? Is still you can't overcome. That

1745
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: that is definitely the voice Of Michael. JACKSON i know

1746
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: this is being billed as something, else but that Is

1747
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 1: Michael jackson's voice in the song and That oregon.

1748
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 3: Game the whole time you're, like who is?

1749
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 8: This?

1750
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah but they found a way to win because you're,

1751
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 1: like and they held Off oregon Because oregon looked at

1752
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 1: it was, like we're.

1753
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 3: Still playing a top team In. Purdue BUT i just

1754
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 3: feel like.

1755
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,799
Speaker 1: Last night and we'll see what happens from, here because

1756
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: the next test is going to tell us a. Lot

1757
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: And i'm talking About iowa and how they parlay what

1758
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: they did last night and finding a way to win

1759
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: late in that, game and that took some, resolve but

1760
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: you've got to build on that now by going Into,

1761
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,600
Speaker 1: iowa which is not going to be tough or not

1762
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna be. Easammy that's gonna be a tough. Game you

1763
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: know what we haven't done in a, While. Eddie there's

1764
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: a lot of things we haven't done in a, While.

1765
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Jake every once in a while we do a Transparency

1766
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: thursday or a Transparency. Tuesday BUT i think we should

1767
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 1: do a Transparency. Wednesday and by THAT i mean open

1768
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: conversation of things because we've got a lot of opinions

1769
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: out there that we need to let people get off their.

1770
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: Chest i'll explain What i'm talking about on the other.

1771
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Side you know the.

1772
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 3: Chorus of this, song right there we.

1773
01:30:54,439 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: GO i feel like some, Times, eddie and it's not by,

1774
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: design it's not by, design but you KNOW jamv does

1775
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: is anything goes segments from time to. Time, yes and

1776
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: one of the things AND i totally understand. It and

1777
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: it's been for me an adjustment of when you do

1778
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: drive time, radio Which i've done in both. Categories i've done,

1779
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: Afternoons i've done morning when people are in their car

1780
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: commuting to and from. Work but when you do a midday,

1781
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 1: show it's a little bit different because a lot of

1782
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: the people that are listening are simply at work and

1783
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: have it on on their computer or their radio in the,

1784
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: background whatever it may, be.

1785
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: And the.

1786
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: You become programmed that not as many people are in their,

1787
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: cars so they're not. Participating BUT i feel like we've

1788
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: had a number of different topics that would generate strong,

1789
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: opinion the trade The pacers made The Super, bowl and

1790
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: whether or not a defensive matchup is of appeal or

1791
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: boring as, heck because it really was a masterclass performance,

1792
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: defensively but it didn't lead to an overly exciting, game.

1793
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Right and so.

1794
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: There are a number of things in which we probably

1795
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,759
Speaker 1: over the course of, time should have engaged more audience

1796
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: participation or. Conversation and we do this every once in a, While,

1797
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: eddie whether it be via text at two three nine ten,

1798
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: seventy or whether it be the phone lines at two

1799
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: three nine ten, seventy where we just open it up

1800
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: and it's, like you know, what if there was a

1801
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: question you had or a comment you wanted to, make

1802
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: or an opinion about one of those topics that's out

1803
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: there for people to chime, In AND i, think AND

1804
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 1: i got to thinking about this, TOO.

1805
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 3: I mentioned the other.

1806
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Day so right now two through, nine ten, seventy if

1807
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: you would like to join the, conversation you're more than

1808
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: welcome to do, so.

1809
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 3: Whatever it might.

1810
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Be you can even ask or chime in that you

1811
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Think eddie should be part of The Audibly sexy, trio for,

1812
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: example instead of having to continue with his. Apprenticeship but

1813
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: one of the things THAT i was talking about, yesterday

1814
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: AND i THINK i, overlooked for, example WHEN i have

1815
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: harped on and maybe even to, detriment to actively harped,

1816
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: on this FASCINATION i have about the fact that this

1817
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 1: Super bowl there wasn't like this big build up. Locally

1818
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: you didn't hear a lot of commercials about it or

1819
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: people talking about, it or generation of, People, Yeah i'm

1820
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: going to the Super bowl, party or do you want

1821
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: to get in on my Super Bowl, square whatever it might.

1822
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: Be and it dawned on me last night that a

1823
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:13,480
Speaker 1: lot of that may be because such a large percentage

1824
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: of our, community from either a time, standpoint a money,

1825
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 1: standpoint or an emotion, standpoint put so much into the

1826
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 1: college football playoff for the first time that the Super

1827
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: bowl was, like oh, man LIKE i just got done

1828
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: with a three week vacation To, vegas and now all

1829
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: of a, sudden you want me to run down to the.

1830
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: CASINO i just got over, it you know WHAT i,

1831
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 1: mean like almost not a hangover, effect but just a,

1832
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: Look i've got to rechannel my energy and focus, effect

1833
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: if you. Will two through, nine ten seventy the telephone.

1834
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: Number trent going to join us on the, show AND

1835
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 1: i think he wants to talk about the mention Of

1836
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: rockwell And Michael.

1837
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 3: Jackson, Hey, trent what's?

1838
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 2: Up, Hey, hey Hey. Jake, yeah being that The jacksons.

1839
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 9: Weren't all most, towns we all Knew rockwell Is Barry gordy's, son,

1840
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 9: Correct so they kind of grew up together in case

1841
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 9: anybody didn't. Know so he kind of just did his

1842
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 9: but his old friend a. Favor so that's why he

1843
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 9: appeared on that.

1844
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 3: Record NOW i knew.

1845
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: That the funny thing about it, though, is AND i

1846
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: remember at the, Time, trey let me ask, you how

1847
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: old a fella are? YOU i am, sixty, Okay so

1848
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: we're basically of the same era. Here so if you

1849
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: recall you know The, rockwell Like rockwell was kind of

1850
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: a cool looking, dude, right like he you, know he's

1851
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: in the video and he's getting you, know he's. What

1852
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: i'm in the, Shower i'm afraid to wash my, hair

1853
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: and he's sitting, there you, know and he's playing the

1854
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: part right and. So AND i thought the video as a,

1855
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: KID i thought it was pretty, cool AND i always

1856
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: felt bad For, rockwell even though to your, Point Michael

1857
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: jackson did him this solid but eventually and over the

1858
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 1: course of, Time Michael jackson's.

1859
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 3: The one that kind of took over the. Song does

1860
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 3: that make? Sense of? Course you know WHAT i. MEAN i,

1861
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 3: mean you hear.

1862
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: It but that goes To, trent What i'm talking, about

1863
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: where when you Hear Michael jackson's, voice there is zero

1864
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: denying that It's Michael jackson's. Voice and it's not even

1865
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: the way that he, delivers it's the manner which Does

1866
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Now trent, SAYS i got you here real. Quick we're

1867
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: gonna do a little thing we do every once a

1868
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: while called get To know Your. Listener we've had a

1869
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: lot of success on This Kid's loving in. Particular have

1870
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: you called the program, Before?

1871
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 2: Trent, NO i have not listen every day.

1872
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 3: Though, okay is your radio broken or is that by?

1873
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 9: Intention, NO i only really get the chance to listen

1874
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 9: When i'm in the.

1875
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 3: Car, okay and so you said you? Did you say

1876
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 3: you're Sixty?

1877
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: Trent, Yes i'm gonna guess that that puts you somewhere

1878
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: around the high school graduating class of eighty two or eighty?

1879
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 3: Three is that?

1880
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 2: Right eighty? Four eighty?

1881
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 3: Four and that was from what?

1882
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 9: School, ACTUALLY i didn't graduate from school here and graduate

1883
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 9: from the school Of Los angeles Called.

1884
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 1: Fairfax, Fairfax, BABY i Know. Fairfax it's who Did Sewn

1885
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: higgins go To? FAIRFAX i think yes he? Did, yeah

1886
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 1: okay for, me but yes he.

1887
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 7: Did.

1888
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 3: Okay so let me ask you, This.

1889
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: Trent how did you end up In indianapolis From Los

1890
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: if you were born and raised In Los, angeles how

1891
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: did you end up In?

1892
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 3: Indianapolis and what was her? Name?

1893
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 2: Astley the other way?

1894
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 9: Around born and Raised, Indianapolis dad moved To Los angeles

1895
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 9: AND i went out there for high school AND i

1896
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 9: end up coming back.

1897
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 2: Here it is much slower and much.

1898
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 3: Easier that's probably.

1899
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 1: True but la, Man i'm telling you what you. KNOW

1900
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: i don't know if you know this or, Not, trent

1901
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: but it's seventy two and sunny three hundred and sixty

1902
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 1: two days a year In Los.

1903
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 9: Angeles oh, yeah oh, yeah taking the trash out On

1904
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 9: Christmas day in, SHORT i remember.

1905
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: That, So, trent last, QUESTION i want to know what you,

1906
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: like but more, importantly what you don't like about this.

1907
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Program AND i will not be. Offended this Is eddie

1908
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 1: AND i are always trying to, improve So i'd like

1909
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 1: to know The trent.

1910
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 9: Critique WHAT i like about the show is that, you

1911
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 9: you And eddie are very. KNOWLEDGEABLE i think you got

1912
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 9: it at THE qr thing go, Man i'm, Sorry.

1913
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 3: Oh, Yeah, Trent, Trent, trent let me ask.

1914
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: You do you have?

1915
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 3: Kids?

1916
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 2: Sorry thank, you thank?

1917
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: You?

1918
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 3: Sorry how long have you Known? Ddie?

1919
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1920
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 3: Trent do you have? Kids by the, WAY i have four.

1921
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 2: Kids.

1922
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 3: Yes, Well i'm telling you what You.

1923
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: Trent you might think THE qr thing has got to,

1924
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 1: go but your kids love. It i'm telling you right, now,

1925
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: Right i'm telling you right. Now it's just Like MICHAEL.

1926
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 1: J fox, said And back to The future might be

1927
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: a little loud for, you but your kids are gonna love.

1928
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 2: It.

1929
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 3: TRENT i appreciate, it, man thanks for listening to the.

1930
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 3: Program love the Show.

1931
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Man you gotta take it easy.

1932
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 3: See Q r And trent loves THE.

1933
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 1: Qr he doesn't want to admit, it, listen but it

1934
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: was right down on the forefront of his, mind was it?

1935
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 3: Not, no.

1936
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: It was not all, that just me and my. Day

1937
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 1: you're my favorite listener, Now, George George, costanza he's listed

1938
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: as joins.

1939
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 3: Us what's up, Man, Hey.

1940
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 10: Jacob, yeah just remember it's not a.

1941
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 2: Lie if you believe.

1942
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 3: It we're just working on the best. Lie that's all.

1943
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1944
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, anyway you had Mentioned george McGinnis, earlier AND

1945
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 10: i just wanted to kind of piggyback on. That people

1946
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 10: may know and may not. Know but in nineteen sixty, Nine,

1947
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 10: Indianapolis washington won The Indiana State High school. Championship george,

1948
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 10: McGinnis Steve. Downing, yep both of those guys go TO.

1949
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 10: Iu in nineteen seventy they go. Together in nineteen seventy,

1950
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 10: One Bob knight comes TO, Iu george McGinnis.

1951
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 2: LEAVES. I you AND.

1952
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 10: I always we always play the One if If george McGinnis,

1953
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 10: stays the seventy three team might have been the best

1954
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 10: Team indiana would have ever put on the. Floor NOW

1955
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 10: i know the seventy five seventy six teams currently the greatest.

1956
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 2: Team but If george stays With.

1957
01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 10: Bob, knight that seventy three team would have Fielded george,

1958
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 10: McGinnis Steve, downing And Scott, may a sophomore on the front.

1959
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 10: Line the backcourt would have Been Steve green And Quinn.

1960
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 3: Buckner, well and here's the other. Thing think about that

1961
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 3: line and good.

1962
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: And in seventy three in The Checker, dome that means

1963
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: That Bill walton fouls out and Not Steve, downing even

1964
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: though it should have been that way.

1965
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 3: Anyway In, Indiana, batcla.

1966
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 10: Right, absolutely, ABSOLUTELY i always front.

1967
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: Line, okay let me ask you this Because i've always,

1968
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: BEEN i, realize so humor me, Here, okay because my

1969
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 1: numbers get thrown off on. This, Okay so we're downing

1970
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 1: in McGinnis the same class that Was downing one year.

1971
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: Below they were the same, class, right same, Class, okay sixty. Nine,

1972
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 1: Okay so the seventy one season is so seventy they

1973
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: were ineligible because freshman couldn't play, then, Right so seventy,

1974
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: one McGinnis averages thirty goes and becomes the first pick

1975
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: in THE Aba, draft but stays behind And knight joins

1976
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: in seventy, two, RIGHT.

1977
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 2: I think it's like.

1978
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 10: THAT i Thought night joined in seventy, one but go ahead.

1979
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: That, well What i'm saying is McGinn has had the

1980
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 1: thirty point season With Lou.

1981
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 3: Watson he did not play For, night, right?

1982
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 11: Correct?

1983
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: Okay so then, yeah so seventy two and? Three, okay got?

1984
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: It but, yes there's no. DOUBT i, mean there are

1985
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: two big what ifs when it comes To indiana basketball.

1986
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 1: HISTORY i mean there are a number of, them but

1987
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: one would be what would have happened in mcginna. Stays the

1988
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: other would have, been of, course what would happen To

1989
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: Bird stays because then they joined you, Know bird joins

1990
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: them in seventy, four and of course he ends up.

1991
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 1: Transferring you, know the whole story ends up In Indiana.

1992
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: State and can you imagine the seventy six. Team bird

1993
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: would have been on that team as. Well and the

1994
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: injury To Scotty mane seventy five probably becomes obsolete as.

1995
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 3: Well, rich what's?

1996
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 11: Up? RICH i got cut off a minute a while

1997
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 11: back when you Mentioned Tim. Kazarinsky what was your reference?

1998
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 1: There Tim, kazarinsky who is the most underappreciated and underrated

1999
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: performer In Saturday Night life, history in my, OPINION i

2000
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,799
Speaker 1: used to do a bit where he actually Played gandhi

2001
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 1: OR i don't think it was supposed to be not Mahtanest,

2002
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: gandhi but like a variation. Thereof and he would ask

2003
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: questions To, god and one of his questions in nineteen

2004
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,879
Speaker 1: eighty two is what Does god have against The Indiana.

2005
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:25,600
Speaker 11: PACERS i actually Know. TIM i met him first in

2006
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:29,640
Speaker 11: the Seriously yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. YEAH i met him

2007
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 11: in nineteen seventy eight At Second. City george went was

2008
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 11: a friend of, mine and just Saw tim back In

2009
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 11: october at a memorial service For george up In.

2010
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Chicago, yeah, because And george, went If i'm not, mistaken

2011
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: is the uncle To jason sedekis?

2012
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 3: Correct absolutely.

2013
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 11: ABSOLUTELY i sat and talked To jason's mom for quite

2014
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 11: a while back In. October but in nineteen seventy, eight

2015
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 11: my wife AND i went up and saw Before george

2016
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 11: went out To la to end up being In. Cheers

2017
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 11: later And kazarinski did this bit and he had The

2018
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 11: New York times in his back pocket and he, said

2019
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 11: this really chaps my. Ass, anyway my wife thirty years

2020
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:17,879
Speaker 11: later meets him and says we saw you in nineteen

2021
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 11: seventy eight At Second, city and he did his entire

2022
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 11: bit thirty years.

2023
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: LATER i, Thought, Rich i'm And i'm happy to know

2024
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: that he's still around in.

2025
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 3: ACTIVE i thought he was.

2026
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: BRILLIANT i Thought Tim kazarinski was LIKE i, SAID i mean,

2027
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 1: it start. IT i thought he was the most underrated

2028
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: and underappreciated aspect OF snl in those. DAYS i thought

2029
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: he was. Brilliant he's the nicest.

2030
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 11: Guy and he introduced me To Jim belushi back In

2031
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 11: october and everything, said this is a guy that reminded

2032
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 11: me of our bit that we, Did Bob.

2033
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 3: Momma so did you Do Second city as?

2034
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 2: Well?

2035
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 11: RICH i knew it is that what you.

2036
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 3: Said no did you do like were you At Second? City?

2037
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no no no. No although my

2038
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 11: son did go up there for about a year on

2039
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 11: The sundays for those you know tryouts that they are not,

2040
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 11: tryouts the. Workshops he did that for about a.

2041
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,600
Speaker 1: Year, yeah a ton of talent to come out of The.

2042
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 1: RICH i appreciate, it, man very much. So and that's

2043
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, What, hey, Listen, rich do you if you

2044
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 1: don't have my?

2045
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 3: Number?

2046
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: Rich write this down at three one seven five two

2047
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: three ninety two eighty. Eight it's three one seven five

2048
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: two three ninety two eighty. Eight Because i'd love to

2049
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: get your, number BECAUSE i would love to Have Tim

2050
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 1: kazerinski on the. Program it would be awesome to have

2051
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: him on and see if in fact he still wonders

2052
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: What god has against The Indiana. Pacers would be the

2053
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 1: best thing. Ever SO i would love it so. Rich

2054
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 1: if you can send me a message if that's, possible you,

2055
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know if it is or, not but

2056
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 1: if it's, possible it would be. Awesome speaking Of Second,

2057
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 1: city by the, way uh In, chicago epic and world

2058
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 1: famous comedy house of talent like that running Through New

2059
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: York city and last night in The, Garden, eddie were

2060
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: you surprised that The pacers were able to pull that

2061
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 1: off last night or what was your expectation or anticipation going.

2062
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 4: IN i was surprised they were able to pull it.

2063
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 4: OFF i, Mean New york is a has been surging.

2064
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 4: Lately they've been one of the hottest teams in THE.

2065
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 4: Nba they are the best team in The Eastern conference

2066
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 4: when they play in their home. Arena last, night they

2067
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 4: don't have O gianoobi Or Mitchell, robinson but they still

2068
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 4: Have Jalen, Brunson Josh, Hart, Karl Anthony, townsen Mckel. Bridges

2069
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 4: so it's a formidable for right, there and elanres shamit's

2070
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 4: a solid role player for them this. Season and The

2071
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 4: pacers go in there and it was a heck of a.

2072
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 4: Game thirty nine lead, changes most in the game this

2073
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 4: season in THE, nba and it's one of the. MOST

2074
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 4: i think it's like top three since the play by player,

2075
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 4: era which is nineteen ninety or nineteen sixty, six nineteen

2076
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 4: sixty seven when they could start tracking those sort of,

2077
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 4: statistics and neither team had a double digit lead in the,

2078
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 4: GAME i think until. Overtime for The, Pacers Quinton jackson

2079
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 4: just came up with play after play after, play especially in,

2080
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 4: overtime but throughout the course of the game as. Well

2081
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 4: Andrew nimhart had another really really solid performance twenty four,

2082
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 4: points ten. Assists he has just continued to evolve this

2083
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,839
Speaker 4: season and Developed jake into a point. Guard and it

2084
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 4: is interesting to me on how this team will look

2085
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 4: next season when you Have Tyrese haliburn And Andrew nimhart out,

2086
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 4: there BECAUSE i think the development this year of Nim

2087
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,719
Speaker 4: mahr could even unlock another level of This pacers offense

2088
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 4: When tyre's comes. Back because remember when they Traded Buddy Healed.

2089
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 4: Whenever that was two seasons ago and they were struggling

2090
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 4: on three pointers as a team, collectively so they Turned

2091
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 4: tyres into like The Buddy healed off the ball. Shooter,

2092
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,719
Speaker 4: well now you can do that a little bit more

2093
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 4: to kind of lean or to wean him back into you,

2094
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 4: know the return to, play As Ralph rief and other

2095
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 4: medical professionals will put, it by Having Andrew nimhart operate

2096
01:46:58,439 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 4: as the team's point guard.

2097
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 3: Now so it's very, interesting you know Nim.

2098
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 1: Hard the thing that is curious to me about both

2099
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 1: Nim hard And. Haliberg what would you say is the

2100
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: natural position Of Ader nimhard point? Guard and what would

2101
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 1: you say is the natural position Of Tyrese haliberg point?

2102
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 1: GUARD i, know and yet AND i don't know if

2103
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: It's this would be a good question For Rick carlisle

2104
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: when both are out. There you, know is it set

2105
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 1: to set dependent upon which one?

2106
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 3: Is which?

2107
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: Role is it game to? Game is it quarter by?

2108
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: Quarter you, know how do they divvy it up or

2109
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 1: is it just how do they? Know and it's part

2110
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 1: of the brilliance of that offense of when you bring it,

2111
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: up which one is the one that is actually kind

2112
01:47:56,320 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: of operating the offense in that. Moment it's almost positionless for.

2113
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 4: Them it is just because a with how much to

2114
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 4: move the basketball and b how those two can play

2115
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 4: well next to each.

2116
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 3: Other but part of that also changes with now if

2117
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 3: you go.

2118
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Positionless if you look at a year, Ago eddie and

2119
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 1: when The pacers were in the, finals and you know the,

2120
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 1: player the rotations you most consistently, Had, halliburton Nem, Hard Nie,

2121
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: smith you know those three in. Particular then you throw

2122
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,759
Speaker 1: In Topping we do have an injury report for tonight's

2123
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: game against The. Nuts on the Second, Abba, okay hang

2124
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: on a. Second you throw In, toppin you throw In

2125
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:48,520
Speaker 1: turner a year. Ago all of them and Even siakam

2126
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 1: for that, matter they all can play at minimum two

2127
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: and oftentimes three different. Positions so they were very. Positionless,

2128
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: yeah and the way that they ran a year. Ago

2129
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: you bring In, Zobots now that change is a little

2130
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: bit because he you have a very definitive. Five, yeah

2131
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: and So does that mean that they have to then

2132
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: the fluid nature of everybody being able to just play,

2133
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 1: different you, know being like positionally position positionally and drowginess

2134
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: if you. Will does that now change when you have zubots?

2135
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: There do you need to have a definitive point and

2136
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 1: off guard and Nim harden And halliburton have to kind

2137
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: of figure that out from set to. Set as for, Tonight,

2138
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: eddie tell me, This we're gonna do some trivia. Form,

2139
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 1: okay are there any players that are listed is out?

2140
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: Tonight don't tell me the, players just tell me the.

2141
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: Number the number of players listed as, Out, yes, okay one.

2142
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,799
Speaker 3: Not Including Tyrese haliburton And obi.

2143
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Tak, one, two, three, four, five, Six six players listed out,

2144
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: tonight not Including obi Top and And Tyr's.

2145
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 3: Taliburn, Yes john Fur Fee, Bingo Aaron.

2146
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 1: Smith, Yes Aaron smith out with lower back. Soreness, okay.

2147
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 3: He eats the, Zubats yes out what they left ankle Spring?

2148
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: Okay BUT i find interesting because they waited until LIKE

2149
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: uh the active list had to be submitted last night

2150
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 1: TO uh to list him as out and today he's

2151
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: listening straight up was out even Though Rick carlisle said

2152
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: he's not. Playing it's a lot after The All star.

2153
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 3: Breaking i'm gonna go WITH. Tj.

2154
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 1: McConnell you are, correct right hamstring. Soreness, okay and THAT'S

2155
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: i hate when that. HAPPENS i have one, more you

2156
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: have two?

2157
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 3: More, oh two? More, yeah you're? Right uh and hard,

2158
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 3: yes out with lower back injury. Management now the big one, Here.

2159
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: I'll go With Pascal. Siakam you are, correct out with

2160
01:50:56,040 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: left hamstring. Soreness, really which which a hamstring is? Sore for,

2161
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 1: McConnell right hamstring. Soreness what's too? Bad one can't loan

2162
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 1: the other? Rights go back and? Forth oh, yeah too, Bad.

2163
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: Jake you. Know So i'm telling you you're going to

2164
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 3: start seeing more of this.

2165
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,599
Speaker 1: Obviously and you got two players listening to ask Questionable

2166
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Michaeh potter left ankle sprain And Jerris walker with an. Illness,

2167
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: Now jos miss his first game of the season last

2168
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: night Against New york with that. Illness he didn't even

2169
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,520
Speaker 1: make it to the arena last night from my, understanding

2170
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 1: so he was in fact. Ill and it's also key

2171
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 1: to remember you have to have eight players active for

2172
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 1: a game when it.

2173
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 3: Starts so now you're looking At Ben, Shephard, okay hold,

2174
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 3: on we'll do, Okay Ben.

2175
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 1: Shephard, yep, Tailor Peter Quentin, Jackson Quinton, jackson, yes, uh,

2176
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh Michael, Potter Mike Michah, Potter, Yes Jaye Huff, Okay.

2177
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 3: Ethan, thompson y, okay, one, two, three, four?

2178
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 2: Five hold?

2179
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 3: On who were missing? Here that would Be Cam. Jones, oh,

2180
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 3: YEAH i shouldn't done, that, yep, okay And Kobe. Brown

2181
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:15,719
Speaker 3: got About?

2182
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 2: Kobe?

2183
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 3: Okay who's your? Eight so this is uh post brawl,

2184
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 3: team right kind?

2185
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: Of, yeah that's a If walker does not suit up,

2186
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 1: tonight Where's Britton johnson when we need?

2187
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 3: Him Tremaine Folks, right that's if who doesn't suit? Up Jeris?

2188
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 3: WALKER i forgot About? Walker? Okay, yeah could be a

2189
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 3: big night For Jeris, walker. Right.

2190
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 1: Uh maybe it'd be interesting to see how many minutes

2191
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,720
Speaker 1: he gets coming off the, illness, though depending on how

2192
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,759
Speaker 1: ill he was so. Tonight Ben, shephard or Is, Haalem

2193
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:54,799
Speaker 1: Peter Quintin, Jackson Michael, Potter Jay, Huff Ethan, Thompson Kobe,

2194
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Brown Cam, jones and Potentially Jeris walker take it on

2195
01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: The brooklean.

2196
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 3: Nets what's THE nets, Record Eddie brooklyn is fifteen and thirty.

2197
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 3: Seven pacers are fourteen or fifteen right?

2198
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 1: Now fourteen and?

2199
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 3: Forty you got to keep a safe distance, there right For?

2200
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Brooklyn they tonight will not Have Michael Porter. Junior, okay

2201
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:21,759
Speaker 1: he is listed as. Out Nick claxton was downgraded today

2202
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: with a hip injury too. Doubtful and Then Noah, clowney

2203
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: who is a twenty one year old who's averaging thirteen

2204
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,599
Speaker 1: points a. Game he's listed as probable with an ankle.

2205
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 3: Injury uh checking my text.

2206
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 1: Messages by the, Way Hey, jake you're not real, smart are?

2207
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: You?

2208
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 3: Boy but your is spelled?

2209
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 2: Yo you?

2210
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 1: Are how does it feel to meet your? Match, okay,

2211
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: okay fair. Enough i'm not sure what that, means but

2212
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,559
Speaker 1: there you. Go but don't you think if you're saying

2213
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: you're not that, smart you should at least bow the

2214
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: contraction of you are.

2215
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 3: Correctly doesn't that seem?

2216
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 2: Fair?

2217
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:11,759
Speaker 1: Eddie eddie is transfixed right? Now at looking at injury?

2218
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: Reports oh, yeah you look mesmerized by who is enter

2219
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: out for THE? Nets, NO i just gave you THE

2220
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 1: nets injury, report that's. IT i was looking at a

2221
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 1: text we got on the text. Line so the nets

2222
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: have what four?

2223
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 3: Out they have three on the injury, report one, out one,

2224
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 3: doubtful one.

2225
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: Probable we'll get more into, it and what happened last

2226
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 1: night And lincoln next been an eventful day here talk

2227
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 1: To zach keithfer earlier In.

2228
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 3: Italy that was cool because he was on that.

2229
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 1: Bus now when he says he's on a bus and

2230
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 1: then it's just he and the bus driver in that,

2231
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 1: situation would you be seeing at the back of the

2232
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: bus or would you sit up?

2233
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 4: Front i'm just impressed and proud of, You jake for not, saying, hey, Hey,

2234
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 4: zach can you go up to the bus driver and

2235
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 4: hand him your phone SO i can talk to?

2236
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Him, well that's WHAT i wanted to, Do but he

2237
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: said the bus driver was concentrating on. It zach seemed

2238
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 1: stand office with that, thought, right didn't he say that

2239
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: they were going Around it was Like. Whoville they were

2240
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 1: going around some road at the top of a mountain

2241
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 1: with a bunch of the village was down, below like

2242
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: The Polar express.

2243
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 3: Movie he was a little. Worried. Whovill. HUH i was,

2244
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 3: saying have you Seen Polar Express when they're going up The.

2245
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Mountain, yes same thing, right, like, yeah, yeah but that

2246
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 1: was cool though. Too and the other thing that was. Remarkable, now,

2247
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 1: this this to me befuddles.

2248
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 3: Me, okay mm. Hmm how is it possible that the

2249
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 3: clearest reception.

2250
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: We've gotten from our lung dart tote and chipmunks that

2251
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 1: run our phone lines was a call from The Italian

2252
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: alps on a.

2253
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 3: Bus did you notice?

2254
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 2: That?

2255
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: WELL i Thought Brian nuwerth's call from The nebraska airport

2256
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: where it was pretty.

2257
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 3: Solid so he was In.

2258
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 1: Lincoln, yeah last, Night Brian nubert was there because Of

2259
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: purdue And nebraska And, lincoln AND i thought it was

2260
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: and we shall see what it means moving forward For.

2261
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 1: Purdue it felt like it could be one of those

2262
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 1: wins that they get that you could look back on and,

2263
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: say and this always happens when a team makes a deep,

2264
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: run when a team gels together at the right, time

2265
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: when a team wins a championship or goes to a final.

2266
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: Four then you look back and as the confetti's falling

2267
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: and they're getting ready to interview the, coach you, know

2268
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: they always, say, coach you take a look at the,

2269
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: season and you look back on such and such when

2270
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: the struggles you had when you were being overlooked and written.

2271
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 3: Off an open, DISCLAIMER.

2272
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 1: I absolutely one believed at the beginning of the year

2273
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 1: That purdue was the best team in college.

2274
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 3: Basketball AND i think if.

2275
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 1: You look at what they, did you, know before the

2276
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: turn of the, year and the schedule they were, playing

2277
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 1: and the challenges they were, meeting it's hard to disagree.

2278
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 3: With the fact that at that time they were the

2279
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 3: best team in college.

2280
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 1: Basketball but as often, happens you, know teams hit a,

2281
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 1: rut AND i caught a lot of grief from the

2282
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 1: beginning of the year WHEN i said THAT i thought

2283
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 1: That Braden smith was the best player in college, basketball

2284
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: and as the best player for, example at this Point

2285
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 1: peterson At kansas Who nate makes the very good point

2286
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 1: of if you think that Nim hard And halliburton are

2287
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 1: both natural, points do you draft A peterson and put

2288
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: him at the two and then rotate through Nim hard

2289
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: And halliburton at the. Point maybe if you have that.

2290
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: Pick but and you Know, boozer there are a number of, Players,

2291
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 1: wilson The band's a number of players you could say

2292
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 1: are the best player in college. Basketball But Braden smith

2293
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 1: coming into the, year the one that was running an

2294
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: engine as well as, anybody and the engine started the,

2295
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 1: sputter for. Sure and part of that was their defensive

2296
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: effort or lack. Thereof part of it perhaps, was As

2297
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 1: Brian nubert was, Saying Trey koffmanren just like you know,

2298
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 1: what So i'm not going to be your main scoring.

2299
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: Guy i'll Do i'll find other. Areas part of it

2300
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 1: may have just been there being forced to learn to

2301
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: play different, positions are not different, roles even though they

2302
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: are very familiar with one, another and Then Fletcher lawyer

2303
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: going into a shooting slop and overcoming. That BUT i

2304
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 1: thought what we saw last night From purdue that was

2305
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 1: encouraging was twofold number One perdue's. Ability, yes they got

2306
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 1: out to a huge, lead they were very much in

2307
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,839
Speaker 1: control of the, game and Then. Nebraska Give nebraska, Credit

2308
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 1: nebraska finds its way.

2309
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 3: Back and.

2310
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 1: Trust, Me i'm not the only One i'm sure on

2311
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 1: this that looked at it and said this is this

2312
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 1: would be a disastrous loss For purdue because of how

2313
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: in control of this game they, were and if they

2314
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: were to Allow nebraska to come roaring. Back they were

2315
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 1: up fourteen with like two forty, draft correct? ME i

2316
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 1: mean a borderline epic, collapse, Right and then you go

2317
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 1: in the overtime and you're, thinking if they lose, this

2318
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 1: then that might be a damn. Breaker that's without the,

2319
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 1: end like the water coming through the, dam and they

2320
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 1: may never come back from that for this.

2321
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 3: Year that might be what does them.

2322
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 1: In AND i was thinking to, myself, however if they're

2323
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 1: able to stave this run From nebraska and they go

2324
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 1: into overtime and then salvage a win out of, it

2325
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: it's the way that they. Won it's the way that

2326
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 1: they won in getting contribution above and beyond your. Core

2327
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 1: purdue is twenty two to zero in games When Fletcher

2328
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 1: lawyer hits at least four three, Pointers.

2329
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 3: So you know what you're getting.

2330
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: There you, Know Oscar cloff And Kaufman ren and learning

2331
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 1: to play alongside one, another and Then Braden, smith you

2332
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 1: know you have with your. Core but when you're getting

2333
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:41,320
Speaker 1: not one but two key three point baskets FROM. Cj

2334
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: cox down the, stretch when you are getting you, Know

2335
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: Jack bender coming in and getting key rebounds for, you

2336
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 1: and you know That harris is a guy that is

2337
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: going to make free throws for you late down the.

2338
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Stretch he's in over eighty five percent free throw, shooter

2339
02:00:55,800 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: If i'm not. Mistaken but those complimentary, pieces that's what

2340
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 1: separates very good teams from great. Teams great teams find

2341
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: ways to win games when they need to call upon

2342
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 1: above and beyond what's on the surface for, them or more,

2343
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 1: importantly where they have off nights and they still find

2344
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 1: a way to.

2345
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 3: Win and that's what you saw last.

2346
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 1: Night, Now iowa is tricky because i was a team

2347
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 1: that we thought was going to just. Play if you

2348
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 1: looked At ben McCullum and what he did at his previous,

2349
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 1: stop it was all about grinding down and slowing teams.

2350
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 1: Down and you, know When indiana was going through their

2351
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:43,000
Speaker 1: coaching search And ben McCollum's name was out, there and people,

2352
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:45,400
Speaker 1: like oh, gosh no anybody but, him because look how

2353
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 1: boring they.

2354
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 3: Play i'm not going to want to go and.

2355
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 1: Watch you, know essentially what you're, seeing you Know Mick

2356
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 1: cronin's style of, play and YET i was playing with

2357
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 1: a little tempo now and at times looks really really.

2358
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 1: Good that's not an easy game For. Purdue but if

2359
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 1: you can pick that one up as, well and then

2360
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: you look at it and, Say, okay we had to

2361
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 1: go away from. Home two tough, environments and it is

2362
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 1: weird to think still That nebraska is a tough, environment.

2363
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 3: But it Is.

2364
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 1: Perdue when they were in their, skid when they weren't playing,

2365
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: well defense was a big culprit. There but that is

2366
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: still something that you can put behind, you and if

2367
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 1: you are, winning then you can look back and, say, boy,

2368
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 1: coach you had that. Stretch we left you for, dead we,

2369
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 1: Thought and then what happened In nebraska and you parlayed

2370
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:40,200
Speaker 1: that into a win At. Iowa AND i Think Purdue

2371
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 1: perdue might have been rattled a. Little rattle's the wrong

2372
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 1: word because they're a veteran, team but there's just a

2373
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 1: swagger that comes with, being you, know like on a.

2374
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 1: Streak there's a swagger that comes with, it and they

2375
02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 1: might have lost a little of. That and last, night

2376
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 1: the way in which they one Against, nebraska that may

2377
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 1: be what they needed just to kind of get their

2378
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 1: mojo back, eddie basically to get back their audible. Sexiness right, What, yeah,

2379
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 1: okay thanks for.

2380
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 4: LISTENING i thought that was just you, Mean Nick, garner

2381
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 4: you were the front, man he was the bass, player

2382
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 4: And i'm the.

2383
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 3: Drums i'm the. Drummer you're the. Drummer, yes so You're Peter.

2384
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:30,480
Speaker 3: CHRIS M.

2385
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 1: Why WOULD i Be Peter?

2386
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 3: Chris he was the drummer For.

2387
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:40,800
Speaker 1: Kiss, okay you know they often say the last thing

2388
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:42,600
Speaker 1: a drummer says in a band is, hey, guys how

2389
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: about playing some of my?

2390
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 3: Stuff but little?

2391
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 1: Known in, Fact Peter, curton not little, known But Peter

2392
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 1: cris's song that he wrote For kiss Is, beth WHICH

2393
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:53,440
Speaker 1: i believe is the highest charting song In kisses. History Gene,

2394
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: SIMMONS i, think has always had issue with. That which

2395
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:00,920
Speaker 1: member Of kiss would you want to Be Gene, Simmons

2396
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:03,600
Speaker 1: Ace freeley Or Ace, frehley whichever way you want to pronounce, It,

2397
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 1: Uh Peter chris Or Paul?

2398
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 3: Stanley Paul? Stanley? Really? Yeah, okay that's? Fair is that

2399
02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 3: because you like to be a guy with two first? Names?

2400
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 3: OH i Guess Peter chris would be the. Same, yeah you,

2401
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 3: know fair. ENOUGH i would Be Gene simmons for the obvious.

2402
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:23,280
Speaker 3: Reason come, on excuse, me.

2403
02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 1: Say come, on, yeah that was. Obvious the guy that

2404
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 1: gets all the attention.

2405
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 3: Except for.

2406
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: THAT i don't want to spit blood and he terrified

2407
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 1: me WHEN i was a. Kid Ace frehley is no

2408
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 1: longer with, us SO i don't want to be. That

2409
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:36,360
Speaker 1: how About Peter. Chris i'll be the guy that just

2410
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of in the, wings comes up with the stuff

2411
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 1: that turns out.

2412
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 3: To be the best. HIT i See Greg reigstar walking.

2413
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 3: AROUND i think that means he's in FOR J. Andb

2414
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2415
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Speaker 1: TODAY i think he had to help his mom down

2416
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 1: in Southern indiana or.

2417
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 3: So rake is.

2418
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 1: Here we'll see what he got cooking as part of

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02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 1: our crossover brought to you by the good guys that

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02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 3: In we know what he's raking.

2423
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 1: In you kidding me with the number of gigs he's

2424
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: got all over the. Place but we'll find out what

2425
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:13,160
Speaker 1: he does have going in terms of the crossover brought

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2428
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Speaker 1: angry at, Me eddie because we're not playing the Correct

2429
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:30,040
Speaker 1: Michael jackson's signature. Songs this is way up there, though,

2430
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:34,560
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, Would, yeah why are people getting mad About Billy?

2431
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: Jean it's one of his best.

2432
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:38,880
Speaker 3: Hits Smooth Criminals pretty, good isn't?

2433
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 2: It?

2434
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 1: Yes how About Dirty? Diana not familiar With Dirty? Diana

2435
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:45,360
Speaker 1: queue up.

2436
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:49,480
Speaker 3: A Little Dirty. Diana you'll Know Dirty. Diana i've never seen. Her,

2437
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm just telling, you and you know.

2438
02:05:57,120 --> 02:06:00,000
Speaker 1: You might like to meet. Her you'll know Dirty. Diana

2439
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 1: that's off of, dangerous like kind of Last. Hurrah Michael.

2440
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:07,320
Speaker 1: JACKSON i Think i've told the story, before probably only fifty.

2441
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 1: Times but When Michael jackson had to come To indianapolis

2442
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 1: for a, deposition there was a lawsuit about whether or

2443
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:17,040
Speaker 1: not somewhat HE i can't remember if he was suing

2444
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 1: somebody for stealing like a musical red or or somebody

2445
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 1: else suit him or whatever it might. Be but he

2446
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 1: had to come To indianapolis to give a. Deposition this

2447
02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: would have been around two thousand and three or, four AND.

2448
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:33,800
Speaker 3: I was working At channel.

2449
02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 1: Six my Buddy, larry who was at the time in

2450
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:39,080
Speaker 1: intern At channel. Six WE i was, like, hey you

2451
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: want to go down to The Circle center and get

2452
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 1: something to eat in between? Shows so we just walked

2453
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 1: down The Circle center and we're going down to go

2454
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 1: to the food court and there's this mass of. People i'm,

2455
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:51,040
Speaker 1: like what in the, World and all of a sudden

2456
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: INSIDE i believe it was Called Sam goodie was the

2457
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 1: music store Inside Circle, center and the barriers lifted, up

2458
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 1: And i'm, like why is he Good he closed and

2459
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 1: these people went, crazy and two security guards and Then Michael,

2460
02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:08,720
Speaker 1: jackson walking in between, him came walking out and, LITERALLY

2461
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 1: i mean he was passed by the TIME i even

2462
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:14,880
Speaker 1: like grasped everything that had just. Happened but he walked

2463
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:18,160
Speaker 1: right past. US i mean literally like right past. Us

2464
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:24,600
Speaker 1: and the thing THAT i remember was as frankly as

2465
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 1: as bizarre looking as he became in his later years

2466
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: with all of the surgeries and, everything seeing him in

2467
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:34,040
Speaker 1: person was he looked much more normal than he did on.

2468
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 1: Television and you could see like the facial structure Of.

2469
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,680
Speaker 1: Michael it was, like, oh my, gosh went right past

2470
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: that was my MY mj brushed with.

2471
02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:50,320
Speaker 3: Greatness did you Find Dirty Diana? Eddie do or don't know?

2472
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 3: IT i don't think?

2473
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:59,960
Speaker 1: So okay right ho okay right? Here, nope don't know.

2474
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 1: It that's got a huge guitar solo in the middle of.

2475
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 1: IT i think It's slash that does.

2476
02:08:05,600 --> 02:08:08,600
Speaker 3: IT i Know Eddie Van halen is the one who

2477
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 3: does it and just beat it. CORRECT i did know

2478
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 3: that if you ever look by the way at beat.

2479
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: It If i'm not mistaken the pool tables where they're

2480
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 1: doing their rumble In, la then there are no holes

2481
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 1: in the billiard. Table apparently they got a discount on

2482
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: those just for the sake of the.

2483
02:08:26,040 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 3: Props Greg regstraw has.

2484
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 1: Arrived he is in FOR Jmv Today crossover brought to

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2486
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: one seven three five three twenty one forty one is

2487
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:39,919
Speaker 1: the telephone number over one hundred years in Central. Indiana

2488
02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 1: Not Greg, regstraw But leveating And air. Close that's, Right.

2489
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 1: Rag what's on the big program? Today, well let's.

2490
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 3: See Zach osterman will be on the show.

2491
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 12: Today Kevin bowen will be on the show, today your

2492
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 12: counterpart with The IndyCar Radio network as he's making the

2493
02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 12: move TO prn full. Time Nicky yeomen will be on

2494
02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 12: the program. Today Josh, mullen who is now probably better

2495
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 12: known As Braylan mullen's dad Since yukon is playing At

2496
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 12: butler this, evening and the morning show Had mayma Of

2497
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 12: ohio head Coach Travis steel, On i'll have their top

2498
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 12: player In pete's suitor on the, show native Of. Carmel

2499
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 12: as The RedHawks remain. Unbeaten they play ON espn at

2500
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 12: nine o'clock On friday. Night And miami is always a

2501
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 12: school because of its proximity To, indiana has a lot

2502
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 12: Of indiana, ties like almost the entire coaching Are indiana,

2503
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:32,800
Speaker 12: natives and two of their best players And Pete suoter

2504
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 12: And Justin kirby Your Hamblton county. Kids so we'll talk

2505
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 12: about The.

2506
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 1: RedHawks i'm surprised by, This, Greg you tell me if

2507
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: this surprises. You the bracketology, stuff and TYPICALLY i kind

2508
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 1: of roll my eyes at those, things as you, know

2509
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 1: but the bracketology is usually pretty dead, on pretty. Close

2510
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:52,160
Speaker 1: they've Got miami still as an.

2511
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:55,080
Speaker 12: Eleven, seed, correct and the reason being is that whether

2512
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 12: nobody would play them or they didn't go out and

2513
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 12: try to find guarantee, games their strength of schedule was not.

2514
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 3: Great and again The Mid American, Conference, yeah how was the?

2515
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:09,680
Speaker 12: League i'm going to A mac game is probably of

2516
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 12: the thirty one or thirty two leagues probably without even,

2517
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:14,920
Speaker 12: looking maybe fourteenth or fifteenth would would be my.

2518
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 3: Guess and so.

2519
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 12: The strength of schedule does not love them a great.

2520
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:22,360
Speaker 12: Deal and that's the reason, why.

2521
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 3: WELL mac will be this. Year how many bid?

2522
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:28,000
Speaker 12: League there is a chance that If miami keeps, winning

2523
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 12: and Say miami is unbeaten going into the league tournament

2524
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:33,880
Speaker 12: and they were to get knocked, OFF i think they

2525
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:34,840
Speaker 12: would have a chance to get.

2526
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,760
Speaker 3: In are they the only at? Large? Yes, correct that

2527
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:39,880
Speaker 3: would be the only. One it's a one bid. League,

2528
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 3: frankly you're probably down. To hasn't always been, though you

2529
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 3: know WHAT i, mean, right you're down.

2530
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 12: To but that's that's the widening gap between The power

2531
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:52,200
Speaker 12: conference teams and the non power conference. Teams the term

2532
02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:55,200
Speaker 12: mid major is almost extinct in college basketball at.

2533
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 3: This, YEAH i MEAN i get.

2534
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 1: It i'm going tonight to see Ball state In Buffalo

2535
02:10:59,320 --> 02:11:03,800
Speaker 1: nice At worthen and it's been it's been a couple

2536
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 1: of years Since i've been To Worthern.

2537
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 3: Arena do you have parking?

2538
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 12: Suggestions last TIME i was there for an, event the

2539
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 12: parking was, free really and there was plenty of open.

2540
02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 12: Spaces now because school would be in, session maybe that's

2541
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:19,200
Speaker 12: not the, case BUT i would imagine giving the crowds

2542
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 12: or lack thereof they've had in months he has of,

2543
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:22,160
Speaker 12: late parking should not be a.

2544
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 1: Problem i'm going To Indiana state a week from, tonight

2545
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:28,200
Speaker 1: AND i think that's probably going to be a similar situation.

2546
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 3: In their crowds have been slightly.

2547
02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 12: BETTER i was there ad The Illinois state game ON Espn,

2548
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 12: plus and depending on what the television alignment, IS i

2549
02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:39,000
Speaker 12: have their regular season finale Against uice On march, first

2550
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:42,280
Speaker 12: and there you, are so in Downtown Terre, hoe but

2551
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 12: parking is All now are you going just as a casual?

2552
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 3: Fan are you going like media? Credentials, no it's a.

2553
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:50,080
Speaker 1: FAN i bought two tickets and my Buddy David crumbley's

2554
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 1: AND i as you grad AND i, said let's go

2555
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:52,040
Speaker 1: and watch them.

2556
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 3: Play and are you going to the ballet who before the?

2557
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 3: Game they're Playing Northern.

2558
02:11:55,280 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 1: Illinois you know, What david's going to work in Taro

2559
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,600
Speaker 1: hote that, day So i'm Gonna i'll probably get there

2560
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 1: to be, honestly like six.

2561
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:08,000
Speaker 12: Thirty, Okay, well the lot just NORTH i, think, yeah

2562
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 12: north of the of the entrance to the building is

2563
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,920
Speaker 12: a media, lot so you could probably, Claim, Hi I'm Jake.

2564
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 3: Query from the radio. Network i've always believed if, not

2565
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 3: they're in a working.

2566
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:22,280
Speaker 1: Purpose, okay THEN i ain't gonna take advantage of. IT i,

2567
02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:24,920
Speaker 1: MEAN i get, it But i'll go and you, know

2568
02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 1: LIKE i, SAID i bought two.

2569
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 3: Tickets we're gonna go and enjoy. It and, UH i.

2570
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 1: Did the same for we've DONE Ayu, Indy we're gonna

2571
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 1: Do evansville would be the last. One evansville was really,

2572
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 1: struggling by the, way, correct you, know just to go

2573
02:12:37,480 --> 02:12:39,400
Speaker 1: around the area and see some of THE d one.

2574
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 3: Teams But rake is up. Next. Uh the first guest

2575
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 3: that you will have will be which? One Zach ostraman

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Speaker 3: at three.

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Speaker 1: Thirty Zach ostraman at three, Thirty Greg rakestraw will help

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Speaker 1: bring you.

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Speaker 2: Home.

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Speaker 3: Eddy what do we have lined up for? Tomorrow in

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Speaker 3: the big?

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Speaker 4: Program we'll Have tony eas tomorrow kind of recap the

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Speaker 4: quote unquote first half of the season for The pacers

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Speaker 4: as they head in The All star, break and who

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Speaker 4: knows what.

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Speaker 3: Else, jake all, right so we will get to that.

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Speaker 1: TOMORROW i thank everybody today for listening To, query even

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Speaker 1: those of you that said That i'm just not that.

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Speaker 1: Smart it is greatly. Appreciated thank you for listening To

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Speaker 1: query And company