1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: So you've got the New York Times reporting that the 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: United States is considering sending in troops, and okay, so 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: what is happening here. They're talking about sending in airborne 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: troops and these are elite rapid response forces and they're 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: used for high risk missions. No decision has been made yet, 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: but plans are being actively discussed. According to the New 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: York Times, some of the possible missions of the paratroopers 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: would be seizing key areas like oil hubs or even islands, 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: or securing strategic areas like the Strait of Hormuz, or 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: even targeting Iranian military infrastructure. And with troops like this, 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: speed matters. They're very quick. They go in fast and hard. 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: And that shows that if they're talking about this, is 13 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the situation escalating or not, because we're hearing from Donald 14 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Trump that we're winning and it's almost over and Iaran 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: is coming to the table and talk. But then the 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: New York Times is reporting that we're considering sending in 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: airborne troops. 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Well, we talked about a lot about this yesterday. We're 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: at war right now, and there's a lot of countries 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: in the Middle East that are part of this war 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: as well. And when you're at war, you can't necessarily 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: take everything your leaders say at face value because the 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: element of surprise is so important during war. And I 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday the famous Bagdad Bob from the two thousand 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: and three Iraq war, and he was standing in the 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: middle of Bagdad saying, now, everything's fine, We're doing great. Meanwhile, 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: American tanks for fifteen minutes south of Baghdad and they 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: were coming his way. That's what you're seeing here. And 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: of course Donald Trump when he said he's not sending 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: troops anywhere, but told the reporter. 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: He would keep his options open. 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: So he said, if I were, I certainly wouldn't tell you. 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: That's exactly what's going on. This is negotiation. This is 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: making sure that the Pentagon gives Donald Trump every option 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: for whatever decision he wants to use. So we take, 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: you know, the twenty five hundred Marines in the Marine 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: Expeditionary Force away from the Pacific and move them to 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: the Middle East. And we have the eighty second Airborne 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: who and again, like you mentioned, these are fast acting, 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: you know troops. These are people that can get in 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: there really fast and really quick. And so if he 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: wants to take carg Island. Great, wonderful. By the way, 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 2: you know who's getting all this information to the Iranians. 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: They know American marines are coming there, they know the 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: eighty second Airborn is coming there. 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: They know that. 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump can put them on the ground in a 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: minute if he wants to, And so he's the Pentagon 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: is giving Trump options for whatever he needs going forward 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: to actually accomplish the objectives, win this war and then 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: bring everybody home. 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's true. I mean the administration, they're keeping their 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: options open. They're not committed publicly to ground troops, but 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, according to The New York Times, the 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Pentagon is actively preparing for that possibility. You also do 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: have to question the New York Times, is this just 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: fear mongering from them? But a ground move could lead 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: to a longer, larger situation, increased US casualties, and it 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: would definitely put the United States deeper into the region. 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: And public support for any escalation is very low according 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: to recent polling. Now, Donald Trump, he's saying that the 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: leadership they want to talk. 63 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: They want very much to make a deal. We'd like 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: to make a deal too. We're going to get together 65 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: today by probably phone, because it's very hard to find 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: the country. It's very hard for them to get out, 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: I guess. But well, at some point, very soon meet 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: we're doing a five day period. We'll see how that goes, 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: and if it goes well, we're going to end up 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: with settling this. Otherwise we just keep bombing our little 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: hearts out. 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll keep bombing our little hearts out. Unhinged diplomacy, 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: But is it working five days to make a deal? See? 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Kind of aggressive, But you have to keep pressure on 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: because that's how you get results. Well, give them a deadline. 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And again, this is all the negotiation. You never 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: go into a negotiation asking for what you're willing to 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: settle for. No hich you go into a negotiation asking 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: for a ton, asking for the world, asking for the moon, 80 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: ask for all of it, because then you negotiate your 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: way back down. And if you start, if your starting 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: point in negotiation is what you're willing to settle for, 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: well then you're just going to get negotiated down into 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: something less. And so that's what Donald Trump is doing 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: here by saying, look, I've got all this in front 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: of me, and we're talking to Iran. But I've got 87 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: all these options in front of me, and I'm not 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: afraid to use any of them. 89 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: I thought. 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: One of the interesting things in this New York Times 91 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: article talked about how the Pentagon has held meetings to 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: prepare for how to handle the possible detention of Iranian 93 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: soldiers and paramilitary operatives. What are we going to do 94 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: if we all of a sudden capture prisoners of war? 95 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: Do we have detention facilities for them? How are we 96 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: going to process them? Again, I think that the fact 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: that that information gets leaked out to the New York 98 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: Times is not an accident. It is publicly letting the 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: Iranian leaders know, Hey, look, by the way, we're not 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: just sending these troops to the region, will they won't 101 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: they sort of thing. No, we're actually seven steps ahead 102 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: of that and preparing for any eventuality. 103 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Guys. 104 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: So this is not a bluff here. We're not bringing 105 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: twenty five hundred marines in the eighty second Airborne to 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: the Middle East as a bluff. We've got it as 107 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: a tool if we need it, and we're not afraid 108 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: to use it, and by the way, we're planning on 109 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: it just in case we do have to use it. 110 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: I saw some people saying that the original forty eight 111 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: hours was the real date, but then the extension of 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: five more days was a play to get certain people 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: who are making deals out of Iran, and that's the 114 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: timeframe that they needed. 115 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: And I can completely see that. Again, there's an incredible 116 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: amount of fog of. 117 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: War, kind of like Maduro Venezuela situation. 118 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: There's always a lot the fog of war is real. 119 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: There are leaders on both sides that are saying things 120 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: in public that may not be true because they want 121 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: the other side to certainly believe it. And I think 122 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: all of what you're seeing and all of this is 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: part of that. 124 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: So you've got the USS gerald Ford aircraft carrier. It's 125 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: leaving the Middle East and it is going to be 126 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: going to Grease and it's needing to do that for repairs, maintenance, 127 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: and also resupply. It's being pulled back and this is 128 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: this is typically temporary and short term, is what they're saying. 129 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, these aircraft carriers, they take an incredible 130 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: amount of maintenance. They're shooting off a lot of ordinance. 131 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: I mean the amount of wear and tear when you're 132 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: sending that many sorties off of an aircraft carrier every day. 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't read too much into this about it being 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: pulled back. This is this is kind of a common 135 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: thing that happens whenever you have one of our aircraft 136 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: carriers being used as heavily as it's been used the 137 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: last month. 138 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: It is still operational, just needs a bit of reset 139 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: after some heavy use. 140 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: Well, and we've already done most of the heavy work. 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: I mean, most of the heavy bombing that has already 142 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: taken place is going to take place. There's also talk 143 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: that the reason why we're able to do this is 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: some of the Arab countries are now starting to let 145 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: the United States use their air force bases to send planes. 146 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: So again we don't need two aircraft carriers and all 147 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: their support groups there. We're getting more runways and some 148 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: friendly foreign bases that can launch our planes from. It's 149 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: just a situation where it's gerald Ford just isn't as 150 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: necessary to what's going on anymore. 151 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: One last thing, Donald Trump said, we're giving our ran 152 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: five days, and he thinks it could end very well. 153 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: So we're giving it five days and then we're going 154 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: to see where that takes us. And I would say, 155 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: at the end of this period, I think it could 156 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: very well end up being a very good deal for everybody, 157 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: as good as if we went all the way and 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: just literally annihilated the place, which which if we don't 159 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: have to do that, that would be a good thing, 160 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: not a bad thing. 161 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Whether it works or not, we'll find out. But if 162 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the Iranians are at the table, that's more than the 163 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: last administration was ever able to manage. 164 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, or the. 165 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Administration before that, or before that or before that. 166 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Exactly all that Trump needs to do. However this ends, However, 167 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 2: this wraps up in a couple of weeks, couple of months, 168 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: whatever it is, Trump can declare victory and then sell 169 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: that as a victory to the American people. All of 170 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: this pearl clutching and ringing of hands and concerns and 171 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 2: all that, all of that magically disappears and everybody's happy. 172 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: It's just like what happened with Maduro in Venezuela. Everybody 173 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: was shocked that it happened. It was so fast. You 174 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: heard the left and the Democrats with a little bit 175 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: of chatter about how they were upset about it, But 176 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: it turned out that was such a massive victory that 177 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 2: there's no way you can make any political ground by 178 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: being against it. Donald Trump can get that sort of 179 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: victory in Iran and sell that to the American people 180 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: that Democrats have absolutely nowhere to go at opposing this. 181 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. Good morning,