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Speaker 1: That's exactly correct, Kyle Nedrip joining us now from the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star. He will have all of your high school

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Speaker 1: football coverage tonight. Kyle, how are you doing well?

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Speaker 2: How are you Jake?

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Speaker 1: You know, man, I love it, and I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 1: It always takes me a couple of weeks to really

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like football season, right, and then obviously we're

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Speaker 1: no matter where you live, no matter where you live,

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Speaker 2: at Decatur Central. The Hawks play Playfield, which is Plainfield

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Speaker 1: Drag in a couple weeks, which is hard to believe,

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Speaker 1: Now. Coaches Confidential sounds like a show I would have

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be high scoring. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: Playing field and Decatur Central aed DC. And be sure

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Speaker 1: That's right, yes, exactly, so you'll know the statue. It's

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week, all right, guys, Thank

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Speaker 3: I mean that's pretty accurate. He know me too well.

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Speaker 3: In the day. That's still happening. I could go by

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Speaker 3: And uh, what was that that story you always went

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Speaker 3: your hand. You just have to be a coach out

434
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 3: there playing. And what they allow him to do is

435
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 3: what he's probably been doing, especially when he was back

436
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 3: in college at Duke. I remember Washington playing college. My

437
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,479
Speaker 3: oldest son played at Pitt at the time, and it

438
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 3: was a downpour rain and it was just miserable. And

439
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 3: he comes out and he throws for four point fifty

440
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 3: I think, and four or five touchdowns and had a

441
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 3: couple of rushing touchdowns. And at that time, I remember

442
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 3: telling my oldest son, uh, Jeff Junior, that I go,

443
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 3: this guy's pretty good. I mean, you're gonna hear a

444
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 3: lot from him. He's gonna be a you know, a

445
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: first round pick. And uh, you know, I thought he

446
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 3: was great in college. So when the Giants picked him,

447
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, I thought it was a great pick. But

448
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 3: a lot of times that that doesn't me and you're

449
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 3: gonna have great success at that team that picked you.

450
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 3: So like in my for me example, coming to Indianapolis,

451
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 3: it was great to come back home play in front

452
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 3: of family and friends and hometown and all that. But

453
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: was it the right fit for me at the time, No,

454
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: it wasn't. It would have been nice to be able

455
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 3: to maybe play in the league for four or five

456
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: years and have success and if it didn't work out

457
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 3: as a team. I was that before to come back

458
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 3: to Indianapolis when they were good and uh, and you know,

459
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 3: finish my career out at that time. But you know,

460
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: you need a lot of luck and a lot of uh,

461
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: you know, things just need to go your way. And

462
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 3: when he was in New York, it just you know,

463
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: with a new coach, coaches coming in, coming out and

464
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 3: trying to place you know, future Hall of Famer and

465
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: Eli having to deal with all that. It was just

466
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: it was just too much. And you know, I'm not

467
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: sure anybody would win in that situation and been successful.

468
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: You know, he had a running back at the time,

469
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: Sir Kwon Markley, that was unhappy and wanted out. And

470
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: you know there's a reason why players won out of

471
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 3: a situation. Uh, you know, they know it's not good.

472
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: So when you have a franchise player like your running

473
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: back that is all world and he wants out of

474
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 3: New York, uh, you know, there's there's something to be

475
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 3: said about that. So I just don't think it was

476
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 3: made for him to be very successful in New York.

477
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 3: And he just, you know, he's fortunate to be able

478
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: to get out of there and get a fresh start

479
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,239
Speaker 3: coming to Indianapolis. Media is not as big as as

480
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: it is there, and you know it's uh, he can

481
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: just pretty much breathe and be himself and be that

482
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 3: same kind of player that he was at college at

483
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: Duke and uh, and that's kind of what you're seeing.

484
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: He's running around making plays with his legs. He's showing

485
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 3: his A flakeability. He's smart, he's making checks at the

486
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, he's got a strong arm, teammates loving,

487
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: and you know, a guy like that, you know can't

488
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: help but be successful. So you know, I'm happy for Hims.

489
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: I've been there, like you said, and you see guys

490
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: like that, good people become successful and you can't help

491
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: but be happy for.

492
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Speaker 1: Him when you go Jeff, Jeff, George is our guest,

493
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 1: like for example, and I've always said this. Oftentimes players

494
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: I think get unfairly judged based on how and where

495
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: they were acquired. So in other words, when you were

496
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and I say this only because again it's

497
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: kind of analogous to the situation that Daniel Jones maybe

498
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: going through. There was so much pressure on you in

499
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: Indianapolis because you were the number one player taken in

500
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: the draft and obviously your background in the city itself.

501
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: But when you went to Atlanta, do you think that

502
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: part of why you were able to really flourish was

503
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 1: because just that microscope was off a little bit, And

504
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: maybe Daniel Jones feels that same way, like you talked

505
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: about of you know, there's a difference in terms of

506
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: what was invested in Daniel Jones by Indianapolis, and therefore

507
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that pressure bearing him down. That would

508
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: be tough for anybody. Is there some truth to that?

509
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: There there's a lot of truth to that and and

510
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: and what he brings to It's not like he's he's, uh,

511
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: you know, first second year guy. He's a he's an

512
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: experienced veteran that understands that's been through all the every

513
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: situation you can go through as a quarterback, not just football,

514
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 3: but off the field as well. You know, when you

515
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: tend to when you don't have success early on, you

516
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: you really tend to isolate yourself. You know, it's not

517
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: just football. You you worry about where you're going. You know,

518
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: people just look at you different. Heck, your teammates even

519
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: look at you different because what the media and everybody

520
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: puts out there and says about you, it's totally not true.

521
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: But when they read that, you know, other people just

522
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: they you know, they believe that. So you kind of

523
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: like carry yourself a little bit in the facility, carry

524
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 3: yourself a little bit different. You're thinking, man, is this

525
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, does my teammate believe in me to do

526
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: my coaches believe in me, does the ownership believe in me?

527
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: And I would imagine he felt that way in New York,

528
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 3: and you know I felt that way as well. But

529
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: you know, the main thing is he's a confident guy.

530
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: He's had success in college. He knows how good he is.

531
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: He you know, he has all the the ability in

532
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: the world, you know, like I said, not just passing

533
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 3: the ball, but he has the mental part of it

534
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: that you need to to be a great quarterback. And

535
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: and he can run. You know, he's mobile and man,

536
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: some of the plays that you've seen that you've see

537
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 3: him make is uh is uh. You know some of

538
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 3: the best that you know, the best guy's doing at

539
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: that level. So you know when whenever you go out

540
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: and you uh the first I mean game three games

541
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: they played and you were the first two games that

542
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: you never saw the punter on the field, that's pretty incredible,

543
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: you know, to to go down there, and I believe

544
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: that's what the record with it, the punter never played

545
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 3: right on that.

546
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, two games didn't put and then they scored on

547
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: their first ten possessions. I think something like that or

548
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: ten straight. I should say, Yeah, I mean that.

549
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard to score points in the NFL.

550
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: So so when you're doing that, you don't you don't

551
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 3: need your punter. Uh. That speaks a lot of what

552
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: your quarterback's doing on the field. He's doing something right

553
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: and whether you know it's a bad play and he

554
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: sees the blitz coming or he's changed the protection, just

555
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: knowing where everybody's down on the field, he's able to

556
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: do that. So that's that's always going to be be success.

557
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm happy for him. I'm I'm happy

558
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: for the Colts. I'm happy for him and hopefully they

559
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: can continue what things.

560
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: Jeff, you know, you hell, you would know this better

561
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: than anybody in town. I mean, you were a long

562
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: time starting quarterback in the National Football League. So when

563
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: you're watching a game, I'm imagining that you're watching it

564
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: through a different lens than say myself for most people.

565
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: When you first saw from Daniel Jones, you know, was

566
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: there anything that you saw out of him that and

567
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: I know you like Anthony Richardson that you were waiting

568
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: to see out of Anthony Richardson that told you right away, Okay,

569
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: he's comfortable here. This is going to work. What does

570
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: your trained I notice that perhaps the average person does not.

571
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: Well, you just watch him how they uh you know,

572
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: they carry themselves in the huddle, how they walk up

573
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: to the line of scrimmage. What you're looking for your keys,

574
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: You're you're looking at the fafety, you're looking at the front.

575
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 3: You know, there's just so much you have to do

576
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: that's going through your mind, and the clock's going down ticking,

577
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: and you have to get the playoff at uh you know,

578
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: uh at a certain time. So yeah, it's just just

579
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: the way he handles himself out of the huddle is

580
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: excuse me, how my car went off? And you can

581
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: still hear me.

582
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, sorry about that, that's right.

583
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, so just how he cares himself, you know,

584
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 3: he you can just tell he's in command of the offense,

585
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: and players looking in the eyes. You can see in

586
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: the eyes that you know, they're just looking and knowing

587
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: that he's in charge. And you know, if he says

588
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: if he makes a check, he knows the right check

589
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: and not that Anthony Richardson didn't do that. I mean,

590
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: I I see so much uh upside to him and

591
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: all the talent that he has, the arm strength and

592
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: obviously the running ability. I just don't think that that

593
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: he was coached right in the beginning, you know, whereas

594
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones just came into the league, uh, you know,

595
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: just prepared, came from an offense to preparing every for

596
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: the NFL and uh, you know, and and aar just

597
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: I don't think got the coaching that that he really

598
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: needs to to develop into a great the great quarterback

599
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: that he can be. But man, there's just so much

600
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: upside the day. And you know it when you watch him,

601
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: and you know, even in his interviews, how he talks,

602
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: how he uh, he is always picking up his teammates,

603
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 3: always you know, giving credit to somebody else, and you know,

604
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: it's just a he's just a polished quarterback, not just

605
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: on the field but in in the media world. And

606
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: he just knows the right things to say and just

607
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: how he acts. And you know, I'm just impressed. I'm

608
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: impressed with the with the not just the football player,

609
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: but the but the person. Every time I hear him talk.

610
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: Jeff, I don't think we've had a chance to talk

611
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: to you, certainly, you know, publicly since the unfortunate passing

612
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: of Jim Mersey and you know, I know everybody listening

613
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: to this show knows what Jim Mersey meant to this

614
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: town in terms of just his philanthropy and the different

615
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: things he was involved in. He also was a guy

616
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: that clearly was a huge believer in you the story,

617
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, going back to when he came and watched

618
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: your work out of Illinois and said, we're gonna make

619
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: you the number one picking the draft. What was your

620
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: overall relationship with jim Irsay, and just obviously your thoughts

621
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: on the loss of Jim Irsay.

622
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: It was tough, you know, just like everybody else, you

623
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: feel all the the stuff that he did for the city.

624
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: But my relationship with him was really good. You know,

625
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: I wish I've said it all along. He's probably the

626
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: best owner that I ever played for. I just didn't

627
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: get a chance to play for the owner that he became.

628
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: We all knew that he was he was going to

629
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: be great. He was a he loved the players. He

630
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: was always in the weight room lifting weights with everybody,

631
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: and I mean he was always praising, you know, whoever

632
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: he drafted. Yeah, he was a big fan of mine,

633
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: and it's just unfortunate that that I just wasn't able

634
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: to continue my career to play with him because he

635
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: was you know, I played for lot of owners, obviously,

636
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: but out of all the owners I played for, nobody

637
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: was better than Jim. So I just wish I could

638
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: have brought a lot more wins and a Super Bowl

639
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: or a championship to Indianapolis when I played, because he's

640
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: one of those owners that deserve it. He deserved more

641
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: than the one super Bowl that they won. With all

642
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 3: the talents that they had here and defense and all

643
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: the offensive players that they had. Uh, you know, they

644
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: kind of reminded me of the the Atlanta Braves back

645
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: when the Braves were good with all that pitching and

646
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: Glavin Maddox and all those smolts and having all the talent,

647
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: but only winning one World World championship. And it would

648
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: have been nice to have brought him more than one

649
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: one super Bowl because if there's any owner that deserved it,

650
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: it was him. And you know, we just weren't. We

651
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: just weren't very good. I've said this all and you

652
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: know I've talked about it. We were just in that

653
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: learning stage when I got here, and you know, we're

654
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: just both on offense and defense. We just were really

655
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: weren't that good and and you know you draft a

656
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, uh, you know, like myself, and we had

657
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: all the comments in the world. But you know, if

658
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: you don't have uh and I was part of it,

659
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, blaming anybody else, but if you do,

660
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: if you don't have a team uh on both sides

661
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: of the ball and a team that uh, you know,

662
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: an organization with an owner, and we didn't. I didn't.

663
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: We didn't even have a GM at the time. So uh,

664
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: I mean it was Bob ur Say and Jim and

665
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: uh so we we we were learning as we went,

666
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 3: but uh, they got good and Jimmy was was one

667
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: of the best. And uh what a great family to

668
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: see his daughters out there, uh being involved as much

669
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: as they are. I love that. I love hands on owners,

670
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: having them on the on the sidelines, and having Jim

671
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: be a big part of them when he was there,

672
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: it just made you as a player feel good and

673
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: you just couldn't help but win.

674
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: What is for any player, Jeff, you know, for being

675
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson be it what Daniel Jones had to in

676
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: New York. You know, Adie Mitchell, whoever it may be

677
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: when you get into the NFL, I'm in aside from

678
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: the obvious, which is the media, and as you know,

679
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: let's go back to it. I guess this way, when

680
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: you talk about just being a leader, being you know,

681
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones appears to kind of have kind of

682
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: the command in the presence of his teammates, is that

683
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: a learned skill? The guys just either have that or

684
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: they don't, or do you kind of learn it through experience?

685
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: You know what? A little bit of both, you know,

686
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: the way you carry yourself as you knows leadership. But

687
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: you know I've said this, you know, I think I

688
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: said it last time we were on for a quarterback.

689
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: When you come into a system and from college to pros,

690
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: you need to have a young nucleus around you. You really

691
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: can't have a veteran dominated team because those guys just

692
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: look at you different. It's hard to lead as a

693
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 3: twenty two year old kid. It's hard to lead a

694
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: thirty two to thirty five year old guy and say, hey,

695
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: follow me. You know, I know, you know I know

696
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: what I'm doing. I you know we're gonna win. Just

697
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: follow me. I have the the map for that. Guys,

698
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: don't really buy in. They're like, yeah, okay, rookie, you

699
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: know you're you know twenty, Just sit tight, you know,

700
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: two three years down the line, you know what's uh,

701
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: let's figure this out. But if you got if you've

702
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: got a young group of an offensive line, receivers, you know,

703
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: defensive guys that are you know, two three year veterans,

704
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: and you're coming in as a rookie, it's easy to

705
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: lead those guys. It's easy for those guys to follow you.

706
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: It's easy. You know, come in there and you you

707
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: you you feel you you feel like this is really

708
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: my team. You're in the weight room and you know

709
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: if all these young guys you're you know, not just football,

710
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: but you do stuff off the field. You do you

711
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: know in the off season, you you go to all

712
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: the pacer games. You you go to dinners, you you

713
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: you go to bowling. You know, all guys have foundations nowadays,

714
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: and you know, you you do, you know a ton

715
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: of charity work together. You're it's not just the season

716
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: that you're together, it's the whole off season that you're

717
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: together as well as the season. And you know, that's

718
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: kind of how you just build the chemistry and you know,

719
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: that's the way it does in college, high school, college,

720
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: you kind of grew up together, you go through some

721
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: ups and downs, you win and lose together. But if

722
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: you're trying to lead a twenty two year old quarterbacks

723
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: trying to lead a thirty five year old guy, it's

724
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 3: kind of hard. And that's kind of what I felt

725
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: like my experience here in Indianapolis was I felt like

726
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: there just wasn't a lot of young guys that we

727
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: came in together, that we could grow together. We had

728
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: two or three guys, but we were a veteran dominated

729
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: team that you know, I felt like half the guys

730
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: came from Baltimore, and you know, I was watching them

731
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: play as a kid, and so it's just it's just

732
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: it's different. So to answer your question, I don't know

733
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: if I'm answering your question or not, but I think

734
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 3: it's easier for a guy like Daniel Jones to come in.

735
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: It's been around, it's played four or five years, it's

736
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: been those the ups and downs when he was in

737
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: New York because nobody faces that type of pressure in

738
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: New York, and then to be able to come to Indianapolis,

739
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: it really is it's it's pretty easy. I'm thinking I

740
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: would think he would say the same thing if New

741
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: York is nothing like Indianapolis and I can just go

742
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: out there and beat myself. I can go to dinner,

743
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: I can go to the grocery. I don't have to

744
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: go to the grocery at ten forty five at night

745
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: to get my to get milk and cereal or whatever.

746
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: You get to watch Andy Griffiths and those, but you know,

747
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: you can go at you know, at one o'clock in

748
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: the afternoon where people really they may know you, they

749
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: may not, but you know, it's just it's the little

750
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: things that you just kind of take for granted that

751
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: you can't do and in certain places that you can

752
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: do here in Eatianapolis. So I know that he feels comfortable,

753
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: and obviously his play is speaking for itself.

754
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Have you watched Ted Lasso, Jeff, I have not. Let

755
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: me tell you some Let me tell you something. Of

756
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: all people, Jeff George, of all people that I know,

757
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: needs to watch Ted Lasso on Apple TV more than

758
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: any person because it is basically twenty twenty five Andy Griffith.

759
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: It is Andy Griffith that we're the sports team. I'm

760
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: telling you right now. If you start watching Ted Lasso tonight,

761
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: you will have it done before the Colts kickoff on Sunday.

762
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: It's three seasons, and then you will say to me,

763
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: you were right. I mean it has it has that.

764
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: You know, Andy Griffith, there's something you can learn in

765
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: every episode. You know what I mean. There's just Andy

766
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Griffith gives you a little wisdom in every episode. Right,

767
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: same thing, man, I'm telling you exact same thing. You

768
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: will absolutely love it. My last thing for you is this.

769
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys that played will have

770
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: up on their mantle the helmets of each team they

771
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: played for. In your case, it would be you know,

772
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: the Colts, the Falcons, the Raiders, the Seahawks, the Bears, Washington.

773
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: I might be I don't think I'm missing anybody there?

774
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: Did I miss anybody?

775
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: Vikings?

776
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: Vikings? I say, okay, Vikings as well. And then just

777
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: to the left of that you would have Illinois, Purdue

778
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: and Warren Central. When you look over all those helmets,

779
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: if you had to pick up one of them to

780
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: be able to put it on an instantly put yourself

781
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: back to when you played there, that brought you the

782
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: most joy. It would be which helmet.

783
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: Uh you're not gonna believe this, but the Warren Tomahawks

784
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: before my fifth and sixth grade travel ball, Warren travel ball,

785
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: it's you're a kid. You're just out there. You're man.

786
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: I was, Uh, we were pretty good and UH played

787
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: with all the guys that I played with it in

788
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: high school. Obviously, I think whenever you ask a quarter

789
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: or ask a football player what was the best part

790
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: or best time in your life when you played football,

791
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: and every I think almost everybody would say high school

792
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: Friday night lines you that that that's the best. College

793
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: is great. You know, you're there for four years and

794
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: you know, but it's more of a you know, it's

795
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: just it's it's not high school. And then the pros.

796
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: It's a business, and you know, you have your ups

797
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: and downs, and you know, pros are great. NFL is awesome.

798
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: But for me when it all started, honestly, I mean

799
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: this sounds crazy, but I was a Warren tom Talk

800
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: in sixth grade and we went, you know, made it

801
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: to the final game. And you know, to this day,

802
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: you know, I can still remember every pass, every past

803
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: incomplete pass because we threw the ball a lot in

804
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: sixth grade and uh for me as well as high school.

805
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: Uh so answer your question my Warren Tomahawk helmet, which

806
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't know where it is to this day, I

807
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: probably don't have it, but uh, the high school as well,

808
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: Warren Central put that helmet up there where all began,

809
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: where it was all innocent. You were just a kid,

810
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: and you just go out there and then you just

811
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: played with all your buddies that you grew up with,

812
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: playing out in the yard sideyard, backyard, you know, coming

813
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: in at ten eleven at night when it's you know,

814
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: mom's calling you to you know, hey, you got to

815
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: come on in and I give us five ten more minutes.

816
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: We're almost done. Uh you know what I'm talking about.

817
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: As we talk about just when it that's when, that's

818
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: when it it was. It was just fun.

819
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: So who beat the Tomahawks? When you got to the final?

820
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Who beat you.

821
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: The Greenwood Wood Chuck? They came up with some double

822
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: a gap. It was like you know in the teens,

823
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: it was teens. I couldn't fill my hand. Lance Shyte's

824
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: dad was our coach. He's yelling at me, saying, you

825
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: got to hold all the ball, hold on the ball.

826
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: My hands are frozen. I couldn't, you know. I'm telling him,

827
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: let's try and run the ball a little bit. We're

828
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: throwing it forty to fifty times in the in the

829
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: ten degree weather, and I think we got beat like

830
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't even think we scored like seven and nothing.

831
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: I believe it was. But they kept coming with a

832
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: blitz through double, a gap blitz. And you know, we're

833
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: a little sixth grades and we had no idea how

834
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: to pick it up. And I'm taking one step getting

835
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: hit and getting sacked and not really sure of thinking

836
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: to myself, man, maybe I need to play baseball, get

837
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: into baseball. So I think that's how I became good

838
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: in baseball, because I wasn't sure whether I liked football

839
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: or not because I got hit too much in little league.

840
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Damn those wood Chucks, That's all I gotta.

841
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 3: Say, those darn Greenwood would checks.

842
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: That's right. Jeff appreciated as always, man and great perspectives.

843
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: Appreciate it and look forward to talking to you again.

844
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: Sound good, Jake, anytime.

845
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Thanks Jeff George joining us on the program, the former

846
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Warren Tomahawk and Indianapolis Colt. I feel like we've regressed

847
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: in the musical selections, you know what I mean? Like,

848
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we had this great common ground in

849
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: the beginning with acts, and then with each week the

850
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: music that that we've allowed coach Stephanie White to pick

851
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: for us, We've regressed. So it makes me wonder what

852
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: the next one would be. I mean, how close are

853
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: we getting now to like Milli Vanilli? Pretty close? Right,

854
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: She joins us now on the program Fever and Action.

855
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Tonight it is Game three of the w NBA Playoffs

856
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: with Las Vegas. Coach. How are you?

857
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: I'm good?

858
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: How are you? Did you like Milli Vanilli? I'm well,

859
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: thank you? Did you like Milli Vanilli?

860
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 5: I wasn't really though.

861
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say that's a little before your time, admittedly.

862
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: But a little bit.

863
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

864
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: I want to begin with this and before we get

865
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: into and there's plenty to talk about and get to uh.

866
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: And I know that you talked about it obviously, you know,

867
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: answered some questions of publicly did but I wanted to

868
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: give you the opportunity here because since we last talked

869
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: to you, you know, we know of the passing of

870
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: Nancy Leonard, who was just an absolute pillar in terms

871
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: of sports in this town, clearly in basketball in this town,

872
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: and I would assume that you had plenty of interaction

873
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: with but just your overall thoughts on the loss of

874
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Nancy Leonard.

875
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right, a pillar of sports

876
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 5: and a pillar of this franchise, and you know, especially

877
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: you know from a from a female perspective as well,

878
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 5: the leadership, the vision, the commitment. It just you know,

879
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 5: someone of her stature who we have had the pleasure

880
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 5: of standing on the shoulders of, you know, and now

881
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 5: I think responsibility to continue the legacy.

882
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: You know, the I thought about this stepping in and

883
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: I want your thought on this. I oftentimes when you

884
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: think about Nancy Leonard, one of the narratives, of course,

885
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: is you know, this female athletic, this female pioneer in sports,

886
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: because it was such the anomaly right to have an

887
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: assistant general manager that was a woman back in those

888
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: times as the Pacers were transitioning from the ABA into

889
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: the NBA. And while I understand the relevance of pointing

890
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: out her gender because of the anomaly of that, then

891
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: the more I thought about it, the more I thought,

892
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: but it wasn't necessarily even about that. It was just

893
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: about the fact of being a leader regardless of you

894
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because she kind of transcended through

895
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: that into simply face of the franchise, if you will. Now,

896
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: is that selling short or is that discrediting the things

897
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: that she may have had to overcome earlier in her career?

898
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think that when we look at

899
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 5: it from today's viewpoint, we can look at it like that.

900
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 5: But but I do think it's it's short selling what

901
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 5: she had to overcome to be in that position.

902
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

903
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: You know, certainly, I think we still have a long

904
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 5: way to go in terms of of of women in

905
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 5: in in sport, especially women in what have traditionally been

906
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 5: male sport dominate the areas. And you know that, I

907
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 5: think about the this organization, Nancy Leonard, think about the

908
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 5: drafting of Ann Myers, and and the way that that

909
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 5: this franchise has embraced women in leadership position and the

910
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 5: way that women have been at the forefront of change,

911
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 5: and starting certainly with with Nancy Lennard, uh, and then

912
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 5: the commitment UH to continuing to see the vision UH unfold.

913
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 5: And I think from a leadership standpoint, yes, leadership and sport,

914
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 5: leadership and community, you know, understanding how to break barriers.

915
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 5: And you know, we say it all the time in

916
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 5: women's sports that if you can see it, you can

917
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: and she was one of the.

918
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: First the Fever in action tonight taking on Las Vegas

919
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: game number three. Let's talk about game number two in

920
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: the fact that and when I looked at that game,

921
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: it seemed to me to be one And it was

922
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: interesting because you guys had a couple of different periods

923
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: where you made runs coaching that game. But at the

924
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: same time, it seemed like there was a more passive

925
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: approach to it than in game one. Game one, it

926
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: was like they came out and said, you know, there

927
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: was we're taking this game right. There was just a

928
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: will there that seemed to drop a little bit in

929
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: game two. Am I being too critical? And I there?

930
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 5: Oh, I think you're right. You know, I think some

931
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 5: of it had to do with with how Las Vegas

932
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 5: came out in game one and in game two. In

933
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 5: game two, they certainly came out like a team whose

934
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 5: won multiple championships, who understood what it meant to be there,

935
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: who had a desperation about them, as they should have

936
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: and as we should have. In game one, you know,

937
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 5: certainly you don't want to come back to Indiana in

938
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 5: a position where you're down two. I think you saw

939
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 5: there experience come through. You know, we've got a group

940
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: that's that's really not been through this before in terms

941
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 5: of our core group. And and I think you saw

942
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: a little bit of lack of experience in terms of

943
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: mentality what it takes consistently. Uh. And and there's no

944
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 5: substitute for experience understanding the urgency of the moment, Understanding

945
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: that not just every step that you take in the playoffs,

946
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 5: but every game moving forward in the playoffs requires a

947
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: different version of yourself and your team. Sense of urgency

948
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 5: continues to go up. You know, desperation, not the reckless desperation,

949
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: but desperation in terms of understanding how important every play,

950
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: every possession, every loose ball. Uh, you know, every box out,

951
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 5: every coverage is and and you know this this we

952
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: got knocked in the mouth and and we didn't have

953
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 5: a response. We had our moments, like you said, where

954
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 5: we could, but it was it was a little bit

955
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: of a of a of a mirror image of Game two.

956
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 5: You know, we came out the aggressor and then they

957
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: were a little bit on their heels and they made

958
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: some runs and we were able to make runs of

959
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 5: our own to extend and in Game two, they did

960
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: what they were suppose to do, you know, and now

961
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 5: fortunately for us, we're back home.

962
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: You know, when I look at this year in the WNBA,

963
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: and there are wonderful players across the WNBA, and obviously,

964
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, you see one of the best in Las Vegas,

965
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: right and Asia Wilson. But this year, and I know

966
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: that not everybody can win an award, Kelsey Mitchell is

967
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: the most valuable player of the WNBA When I look

968
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: at just what's happened this year and all and really,

969
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: and I think I say that, coach, because of the

970
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: different roles over the course of a year she has

971
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: had to fill at different periods depending on what it

972
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: was you guys needed. It seems to me like she's

973
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: been able to fill each and every void that has

974
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: been asked of her. At what point this year did

975
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: you see in her perhaps even that elevation of game

976
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: to the point and she's been a great player. I

977
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: don't mean that she didn't have that to begin with,

978
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: But when did you see this year where you thought,

979
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: to yourself, this is another level for her.

980
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think, I think at various points, but certainly,

981
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: you know, when there was when we were at Chicago.

982
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 5: We were at Chicago, I know we were without Caitlin.

983
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 5: I can't remember, you know, who else was was not

984
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: playing at that moment when we were playing at the

985
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 5: United Center, and she just took over the ball game

986
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: in the second half, you know, in in in Connecticut

987
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: when she just took over the you know, she has

988
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 5: these moments where she just can take over the ballgame.

989
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 5: And and and then when we lose you know Sophie,

990
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 5: who was kind of our third fourth backup point guard,

991
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 5: and then we asked her to start playing a little

992
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 5: bit more primary ball handler, more point guard. And this

993
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 5: is this comes with more decision making, it comes with

994
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 5: more facilitating, it comes with more responsibility.

995
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: And she just.

996
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 5: Continued to get better and continued to shoulder that responsibility

997
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: and elevate her game from that standpoint. And then as

998
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 5: we headed into the playoffs, the position that that she'd

999
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 5: only been in, you know, last year for the first

1000
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 5: time in her career, and her leadership really started to

1001
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 5: come through and her uh hold taking you know, accountability

1002
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 5: and holding one another accountable. Her communication just just different

1003
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: different areas that she's continued to grow. I mean, she's

1004
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: always been a great player, and she's always been a

1005
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 5: terrific score and I think that at various points this year,

1006
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 5: and certainly as we've made this playoff run, you've seen

1007
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 5: her playmaking and her leadership.

1008
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 4: Steph, how has your relationship with Kelsey grown from when

1009
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: you were hired, when you started out trying to convince

1010
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: her to come back to the Indian and Fever to

1011
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 4: now where she has been She arguably has been one

1012
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 4: of the best players in a season in the Fever

1013
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: history this year.

1014
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 5: I mean, our relationship has continued to grow. You know,

1015
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: I know I know that she knows how much I

1016
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 5: believe in her, how much I trust her. You know,

1017
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 5: I could speak from from the outside when when we

1018
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 5: were trying to bring her back just just how excited

1019
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 5: I would would be to coach her, and how much

1020
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: we want to put her in positions to be successful

1021
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 5: and put her in positions to do some things with

1022
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 5: this franchise that that that she hadn't done and we

1023
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: hadn't done in a long time. And you know, I

1024
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 5: think that she knows that I trust her, and I do,

1025
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: and I trust her as well. I mean, she is

1026
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 5: just the thing about Kelsey Mitchell is that she just

1027
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: wants to play ball. Man. She is just somebody who

1028
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 5: just loves the game. You know, she doesn't get caught

1029
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: up and all of the things you know that are

1030
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 5: a part of of being a basketball player in this league.

1031
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 5: She just wants to hoop, and that she's the ultimate

1032
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: competitor in that way. And you know, we've continued to

1033
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: layer things for her, and so I think her trust

1034
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 5: in us, and certainly our trust in her has just

1035
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 5: continued to grow. But I absolutely love her. I mean,

1036
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 5: she is one of the best human beings around. She

1037
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 5: is one of the hardest workers you know that I've

1038
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: ever been around, and she is one of the ultimate competitors.

1039
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: By the way, when's the last time you just hooped? Like,

1040
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: when's the last time you just went out and played?

1041
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 5: Suh? I don't know, Jake went like twenty years ago.

1042
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 5: Maybe it's been a long time.

1043
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like, do you do you ever just

1044
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: pick up a ball and like nobody's around, You're like,

1045
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna put up one hundred

1046
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: fifty shots.

1047
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 5: I'll put up some shots. I don't think it's one

1048
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty anymore. And every once in a while

1049
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 5: I would go out there with the kids, but now

1050
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 5: they're getting too big and strong, so I'm I'm not

1051
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 5: trying to get hurt.

1052
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Well just wait, wait, like wait till you're my age.

1053
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you're like, oh my gosh,

1054
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: like I think I told you. I was playing pickup

1055
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: ball and this is probably eight years ago, and I

1056
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: go for a routine putback I've done a thousand times,

1057
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: and just when I'm about to basically lay it back in,

1058
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: this young buck comes up. I look over and I

1059
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: see like knees elevating above me for a put and

1060
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's it, you know what I mean, that's it.

1061
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: You've just done you know, you know when you got

1062
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: to be done? Right?

1063
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's for sure.

1064
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: I don't know why or where this came about this

1065
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: in this postseason run, coach, but I've seen a lot

1066
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: in the last couple of days of people saying, wait

1067
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: a minute. There's this weird language within the WNBA rules

1068
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: of when a player's out that they're still eligible in

1069
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: the postseason, and that means that Caitlin Clark can still play,

1070
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: especially if they get in the finals, et cetera, et cetera.

1071
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, I.

1072
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 5: Don't know anything about that language. I haven't had one

1073
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 5: thought on that. I have not seen anything about that.

1074
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 5: So it's the first time I'm hearing it, you know.

1075
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 5: But no, I mean, Kaitlin Clark is out. Kayln Clark

1076
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 5: is again priority long term health and wellness, making sure

1077
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: that she's ready to go and ready to be healthy

1078
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 5: for our team a year from now, well not a

1079
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 5: year from now, but for next season.

1080
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: Correct, So she is. There is no situation where she

1081
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: would play in the remainder of this year, regardless of

1082
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: how many games are left.

1083
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I cannot foresee. I don't like to

1084
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 5: use the words always and never, but there's not a

1085
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 5: situation that I could could absolutely foresee.

1086
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Fair somebody asked me this question, which I think is

1087
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: a good one, and I know that there's still basketball

1088
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: have to be played, and I want to get into,

1089
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, before we let you go about tonight, what

1090
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: things we might anticipate. But I think it's a good

1091
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: question when you look at the number of players that

1092
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: you have been able to utilize this year and the

1093
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: players that were not on the roster at the beginning

1094
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: of the year that have found themselves there now because

1095
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: of attrition. Is there one that jumps out you where

1096
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, boy, if there's a way to

1097
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: keep them long term and get them on the roster

1098
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: beyond just this short window, I'd love to have it.

1099
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: Who would that be?

1100
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I you know, I don't, I don't know.

1101
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 5: That's a that's a tough question, especially because pretty much,

1102
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 5: you know, most people on our roster are going to

1103
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 5: be free agents anyway. But you know, I think the

1104
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 5: thing that we've that we've continued to learn, and I

1105
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 5: think those of us who have been in this game

1106
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 5: a long time, you know, know, is that you got

1107
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 5: to stay ready so you don't have to get ready right.

1108
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 5: And you know, I think Odyssey Sims has been a

1109
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 5: difference maker for us. When she's aggressive and she's hunting, hunting,

1110
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 5: you know, shots and hunting opportunities at the rim. We're

1111
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 5: a different team. You know, Shay Petty is the ultimate

1112
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 5: you know, leader teammate. You know, got guy who can

1113
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: come in and make an impact, and and and and

1114
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 5: a player who can make an impact in our locker

1115
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 5: room and on the sideline and aerial power, saym, it's

1116
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 5: like her energy to be able to come in at

1117
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 5: the point that she came in and really impact our

1118
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 5: team in that way, give us some things that you

1119
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 5: needed we missed without the size that we had on

1120
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 5: the perimeter. I mean, every single one of them has

1121
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 5: played a vital role in us getting to the point

1122
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: you know that we are. You know, I think it'd

1123
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 5: be tough to say if there's one that you absolutely,

1124
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: you know, have to have because they've all been so

1125
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 5: important to what we're doing.

1126
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: How have you changed as a coach from the last time,

1127
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, over the just the course of it's hard

1128
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: to believe that it was what ten years ago before

1129
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: you came back to coach this franchise. When you look

1130
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: at where you guys are now and some of the

1131
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: things you've had to navigate, you've handled that differently now

1132
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: than you would have, say, ten years ago. In what way,

1133
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: if at all?

1134
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 5: Well, I think number one, you know, life experience. You

1135
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 5: understand that you got to play the hand that you're dealt,

1136
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 5: number one. But number two, you know, maintain perspective, keep

1137
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 5: it in perspective. So maybe ten years ago, you know,

1138
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 5: I would have been caught up in in what we

1139
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 5: don't have instead of really reprising and rethinking about what

1140
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: we do have and how we can make that work.

1141
00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1142
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 5: I think the other thing is is just learning that

1143
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 5: that I have to adjust to what our team needs

1144
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 5: from us, and whether that's you know, energy, whether that

1145
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 5: you know, being a being a hype man, whether that's

1146
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 5: as much as X's and O's. It's also about presentation

1147
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 5: and production, and what they feel from me is what

1148
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 5: as much as what they see from me. And so

1149
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 5: you know that different players need different things, and so

1150
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 5: I think my ability to adjust and be flexible to

1151
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 5: what they respond to as opposed to just being rigid

1152
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: and how I do things, I think that that's changed,

1153
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 5: and I think it impacts different players in different ways,

1154
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 5: you know, And and certainly I think you know, from

1155
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 5: my standpoint, learning what that is and and and and

1156
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 5: it's been different at various points throughout the year too,

1157
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 5: and being flexible and being able to adjust to that.

1158
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 5: But I think more than anything, you know, it's just

1159
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 5: understanding that that we've got to control what we can control,

1160
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 5: and how we put one foot in front of the other,

1161
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 5: and how we approach the day to day in terms

1162
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 5: of putting the players that we have on the floor

1163
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 5: in the position to be success, be successful. And you know,

1164
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 5: maybe ten years ago I might got I might have

1165
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 5: got caught up in some of those things that we

1166
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 5: couldn't control and have not been or would not have

1167
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 5: been able to lead a group like this in the

1168
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 5: way that I am now.

1169
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: And the response that you would like to see tonight,

1170
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: in terms of what's going to tell you early on

1171
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: how the night's going to go, would be what from

1172
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: your team?

1173
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 5: I want to see it's be aggressive. I want to

1174
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: see us attack of pain. I want to see us

1175
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 5: get to the rim, get to the foul line.

1176
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

1177
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 5: See hesitation and taking shots in decision making. I want

1178
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 5: to see you know, active and aggressive, you know, dictating

1179
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 5: on the defensive end of the floor. I want to

1180
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 5: see that energy. I want to see that attention to detail.

1181
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 5: I want to see that fire, competitive fire that our

1182
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 5: team has shown, you know, all season long. Look, I

1183
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 5: mean the reality is the pressures not on us right

1184
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 5: like we I want them to go out and I

1185
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 5: want them to play hard. I want them to play together.

1186
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 5: I want them to play free.

1187
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty special though, isn't it. I Mean, it's an

1188
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: awesome night outside, it's a great sports calendar, it's a

1189
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: great time in Indianapolis. Chad by Cannon talked to yesterday

1190
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: about the fact that winning has become contagious amongst the

1191
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: franchises in this town and collegiately and everything else. It's

1192
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: going to be a pretty big atmosphere down there tonight.

1193
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: I know you've got to be excited about it.

1194
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 5: I'm absolutely excited. You know, this city has been waiting

1195
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: a long time to have playoff games in our home

1196
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: arena in the WNBA calendar and WNBA season, and now

1197
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 5: being able to do it in the semi finals is

1198
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,479
Speaker 5: a huge opportunity. We know that they're gonna they're gonna

1199
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 5: show up. We know that they're going to show out,

1200
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 5: and we're gonna we're gonna lean on them, you know,

1201
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 5: to give us that added edge, to give us that

1202
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 5: added adrenaline.

1203
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Tonight, Coach Stephanie White, appreciate it as always. We look

1204
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: forward to talking to you again. All right, all right,

1205
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: thank you bes to luck tonight. Coach Stephanie White. Game

1206
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: number three tonight between the Fever and the LAS Vegas aces,