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Speaker 7: It's gonna be late, Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, nine thirty

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Speaker 3: Be the case.

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Speaker 1: But big show lined up for you today. We're going

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Speaker 1: Smith PACER's media day is today, Is that right, Eddie?

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Speaker 7: They call him double A because it's a ron. No,

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Speaker 1: I actually want to hear from you, folks, and I

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Speaker 7: I had to dust off the cop webs, Jake, but uh.

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Speaker 1: There we go. That you can because I know what

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Speaker 1: Two three nine one zero seven zero two three nine

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Speaker 1: ten seventy is the telephone number. Over the course of today,

434
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Speaker 1: we will continue to interact with you as well, but

435
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Speaker 1: we will continue to break down what happened yesterday. Mike

436
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: Chapel one o'clock, Aaron Niemith double A two thirty Big

437
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Speaker 1: one lined up for you here on a Monday. It's

438
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Speaker 1: quiring company on the fan. I like the text that

439
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Speaker 1: I received. By the way, you can always text the program.

440
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Speaker 1: Two three nine ten seventy is the way to text

441
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Speaker 1: to the station. If you want to do it to

442
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Speaker 1: me individually, that's cool as well. I only say that

443
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: because I think most people by now have my number.

444
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: I've given it out a number of times. Hey, Jake,

445
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: no matter what happens this season, Ballard's time should be up.

446
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and Ady Mitchell are the same organizational problem

447
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm reading. By the way, A Texas is not me talking,

448
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: though I don't fundamentally disagree with all of it. Ballard

449
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: or his team saw great physical traits and then rationalized

450
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: and ignored the red flags, listing it as mere immaturity.

451
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: There is a level of truth to this, the analogy

452
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Speaker 1: that I've always given. We all have been in this situation,

453
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Speaker 1: all of us. Either sometimes it was we were the

454
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Speaker 1: ones guilty of this. Sometimes it was somebody in your group,

455
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Speaker 1: one of your buddies. But everybody has that one person

456
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: they dated that was way out of their league. And

457
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean literally it's like have you have you seen

458
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Speaker 1: Joe's new girlfriend? Like holy cow, man, Like that dude

459
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: totally outkicked his coverage. And then it's like, yeah, but

460
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Speaker 1: there's a lot going on there.

461
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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

462
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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, kind of a wild child, and

463
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: like every fifth time you make if you call them,

464
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Speaker 1: they actually answer, and every third time you make a date,

465
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Speaker 1: they actually follow through. But like you're like, you're captivated

466
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Speaker 1: by what could be. And so even though everybody else

467
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: is like I don't know, man, I think you might

468
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Speaker 1: be getting played here a little bit. You're like, no,

469
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Speaker 1: I trust me. When we walk into the bar and

470
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: everybody sees me with her, it's awesome, And there are

471
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: other times it's awesome, and so you get caught up

472
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: in the visuals of it all and you kind of

473
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Speaker 1: overlook some of the baggage that comes with it. And

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Speaker 1: I do think and I get it. I think the

475
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: problem the Colts have had and I think this is

476
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Speaker 1: turning around. But the problem the Colts have had is this.

477
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: You can draft questionable characters into your franchise, into your

478
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Speaker 1: locker room, if your locker room and your franchise are

479
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Speaker 1: strong enough and have good enough veteran leadership to immediately

480
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Speaker 1: let it be known where the lion in the sand is.

481
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Speaker 1: But if you draft questionable character in and your leaders

482
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Speaker 1: are themselves not questionable characters but are immature, then it's

483
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Speaker 1: never going to resolve itself. It's never going to all

484
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Speaker 1: of a sudden become a non issue. And the problem.

485
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Speaker 1: I do think the Colts have taken the right steps

486
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Speaker 1: in turning around that culture a little bit. You know,

487
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Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner is a really good leader, and Daniel Jones.

488
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Speaker 1: I think brings a level of just a maturity and

489
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Speaker 1: a lunch pale nature about him that is starting to

490
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Speaker 1: take effect. But nonetheless, you still have you know, like

491
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Speaker 1: when ad Mitchell first came in, clearly whatever message they

492
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: were trying to get to him didn't resonate. Cameron joins

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Speaker 1: it two through nine, ten seventy Cameron, what's up.

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Speaker 9: Hey, the whole ad Mitchell thing. I was listening to

495
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Speaker 9: the radio broadcast as the play happened, and I was

496
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Speaker 9: so happy as he was going down the field because

497
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Speaker 9: I thought he was shedding all that baggage that he had.

498
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Speaker 9: And then I was just so disappointed, Like I know,

499
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Speaker 9: I'm not a parent, I'm not a parent, but I've

500
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Speaker 9: gotten the I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. How could

501
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 9: you be this much of a bonehead. That's that's what

502
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Speaker 9: I was feeling, Not Agar, just ugh, Cameron.

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Speaker 1: I think I mean, in all honesty, and you tell

504
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Speaker 1: me if you agree with this, I think you will.

505
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Speaker 1: But as it was happening, and by the way, we

506
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Speaker 1: greatly appreciate that you were listening to the radio broadcast

507
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Speaker 1: of it on this radio station, But as it was happening,

508
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: what I was thinking to myself, was this exactly what

509
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about. He's shedding it all right here before us.

510
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: And then it wasn't the imagery that he dropped, it

511
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: was the football. And I thought to myself, this is

512
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Speaker 1: the most perfectly encapsulated summary of a player in one

513
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Speaker 1: play that we've seen in quite some time.

514
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Speaker 9: Right, yeah, yeah, just he had like you said, he

515
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 9: had all the talent to be one of the top

516
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Speaker 9: receivers AFT if he didn't just have that reputation, which

517
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 9: we're finding out is more and more true. And I

518
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 9: hope he can develop past that. You know, But it

519
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 9: takes an elite level of mental focus to be an

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Speaker 9: NFL football player.

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Speaker 1: Correct, and Cameron here, and I appreciate the call. Here

522
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Speaker 1: is my concern. I agree with that it takes an

523
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Speaker 1: elite level of mental focus to be an NFL player.

524
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Speaker 1: It also takes an elite level of aptitude, mental focuness,

525
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: and mental focus and maturity to rebound and to come

526
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Speaker 1: back from what yesterday was a dejected Ady Mitchell. Let

527
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Speaker 1: me play for you, Adie Mitchell after the game yesterday,

528
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Speaker 1: because this, to me, for a this is a player

529
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Speaker 1: that we have been waiting for, the maturity to come

530
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Speaker 1: to him, to allow him to blossom as a player. Now,

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Speaker 1: just as we're wondering whether or not that's ever gonna

532
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Speaker 1: take place, now we've added another layer of maturity that

533
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Speaker 1: he needs to mentally grow into, which is that of

534
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: coming back from that level of disappointment and that level

535
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: of not one, but two critical errors. This is Ady

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Speaker 1: Mitchell in the locker room, and you will hear a

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Speaker 1: couple of other voices. I believe Stephen Holder One, James

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Speaker 1: Moyd Boyd may be there. I'm not sure how much

539
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: of this we're gonna hear. Andrews Charonoff from Channel eight

540
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: was also in the group. This is Ady Mitchell talking

541
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Speaker 1: yesterday at his locker after the game.

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Speaker 6: It was a matter of los and focus and just

543
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 6: to just to play that I just can't happen. Just

544
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Speaker 6: just unacceptable. I just got to be better for the

545
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Speaker 6: team and for the organization.

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Speaker 10: What are your emotions after you know, something like that,

547
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 10: I can imagine, but I want to.

548
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Speaker 1: Hear from you.

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00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, me, definitely not the good ones, just you know,

550
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 6: trying to move forward and you know, learn from learn

551
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 6: from the previous mistakes and get.

552
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Speaker 10: Better, just kind of get basically caught up in the

553
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 10: moment there were were you trying to celebrate or what

554
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know what you just run The boss.

555
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: Made him play that game.

556
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Speaker 6: Coach that after a trthan lost that football crust level

557
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 6: where he didn't dream. The appointed memphisis everything in the

558
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 6: room and let us in the logos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we.

560
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we just gonna move forward and you know, learn

561
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 6: from us, learned from my mistakes, and you.

562
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Speaker 3: Know, be better for the team. Do yuh?

563
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Speaker 10: Did JT touchdown a call back? Obviously? I mean just

564
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Speaker 10: what did you see when you look at the replay?

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Speaker 6: That's you know, let us a logos, Like the coach said,

566
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Speaker 6: like we just hit on and just you know, just

567
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Speaker 6: just be better for the organization, you know, just just play.

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00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 6: Hurt hurt a lot.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, that so because I was on some of

570
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 10: the touchdown today that you have to holding call.

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Speaker 3: I think they call that knew did you.

572
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Speaker 6: Would you would you see started replace trying to make

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Speaker 6: a play.

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Speaker 9: Get a couple of your teammates when they came up

575
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Speaker 9: to you, just to have their support for what did

576
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Speaker 9: that mean in that moment?

577
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Speaker 6: I could have really process it, you know, kind of

578
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 6: in the moment I mean, really still pay processes.

579
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Speaker 3: To be real.

580
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Speaker 6: So I just gotta you know everything is my whole

581
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 6: play happened, you know because of me. Know the way

582
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be able to get forward is you know,

583
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Speaker 6: just growing as a as a player, as a person.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of things here. Number one, there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of background noise, right, A lot of background

586
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Speaker 1: noise there, which again is symbolic because with Adi Mitchell,

587
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Speaker 1: that's been the thing, is all the background noise, and

588
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: was he contrite? Clearly? He was bothered by that, clearly,

589
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Speaker 1: and maybe this is the first time that he's had

590
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Speaker 1: that actual wake up call. It's one thing to have

591
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: your place of employment tell you gotta shape up. It's

592
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: another to then see tangibly the results of your lack

593
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Speaker 1: of focus. And that play again perfectly encapsulated Ady Mitchell

594
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: because you saw why they are so intrigued by him,

595
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Speaker 1: but you also saw why so many people didn't buy

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00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: into the intrigue. And now it's really on him to

597
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: move forward from it. But I think it's on the

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Speaker 1: cults the fact that that position was there to begin with,

599
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: because again, like fool me once, shame on you, fool

600
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: me twice. Shame on me, right, and in that situation

601
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: dropping the ball before he gets to the goal line.

602
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: That's something that costs the Colts arguably a postseason bit

603
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: a year ago, and if your players are still doing it,

604
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: then you start to go above that and ask why.

605
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: But there are other things to talk about from the

606
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: game itself, for example, Shane Steichen's overall observation of what

607
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: cost the Colts yesterday in Los Angeles and Daniel Jones

608
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: what sort of guidance can he give coming off of that.

609
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: We'll get to that and we'll let you hear from

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Speaker 1: both of them upcoming. Mike Chapel in twenty two actually

611
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes from now, Eronie Smith going to join

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00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: us to thirty today Pacers media day fever getting set

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Speaker 1: for a game five tomorrow night in Las Vegas to

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Speaker 1: try to advance to the w NBA Finals. There was

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Speaker 1: a bit of a am I correct to Eddie and

616
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: saying like upset is probably the wrong word, but a

617
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: surprise on the other side of the bracket or am

618
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: I wrong there?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, kind of. It's hard for me to go that

621
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Speaker 7: far though, just because of the uh, the situation of

622
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 7: Game three, I don't know if you saw, but there

623
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 7: was a controversial call with or no call less Thomas

624
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 7: gets a steal, results in the FISA Collier sustending a

625
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 7: pretty severe ankle sprand so she has to miss game

626
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 7: number four, and Cheryl Reeve goes absolutely ballistic the Minnesota

627
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Speaker 7: League's head coach after the game and is just going

628
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 7: straight after the officiating and just the management or whatever. Yes,

629
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Speaker 7: and so she was suspended the game, and the game

630
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Speaker 7: was at home. But I'd probably consider that for sure

631
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Speaker 7: still an upset just because of the fact of how

632
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 7: dominant Minnesota was. I was gonna entire season.

633
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Speaker 1: I mean, Minnesota was, yes, to your point, all season, right, boy, imagine.

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Speaker 7: If the Fever pull that off, Jake, You've got Phoenix

635
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 7: versus it Indiana and the finals to Wanta Bonnor Lissa Thomas.

636
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 7: Le'd be juicy one the Duana Bonner sweepsteaks right.

637
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 7: Now, I wonder if Bonner would get a ring, no

639
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 7: matter what the result would be.

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Speaker 1: That's also a great question because she played on both teams, right.

641
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 7: Do you think the Fever would send her one? No,

642
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 7: I don't think so.

643
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: Of Colts yesterday on the short end against the Rams,

644
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: before we hear from Shane Steichen, we're going to bring

645
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Dave in because he's been waiting patiently like we had

646
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: been asked to do when it comes to Adie Mitchell, Hi, Dave.

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, real quick. I wanted to talk about the Colts,

648
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Speaker 11: But did I just mention one thing about Aarony Smith.

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Speaker 11: Of all the plays in the playoff last year, that

650
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 11: dunk he had and then Donothan Mitchell looking like a

651
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 11: red solo cup after a frat party on the ground

652
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Speaker 11: ward room was easily was easily my favorite play of

653
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 11: the entire might be my favorite pacer play of all time.

654
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Speaker 1: I love a Smith. I love him and he's shoes.

655
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh you know, you.

656
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 11: Know some guys were saying when we traded Malcolm, h Malcolm,

657
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 11: I can't remember past name was right Brogan and you know,

658
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 11: like somebody said, what we got a bag of pork chops,

659
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 11: uh from the Celtics. That was an amazing trade by

660
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 11: our front office. But that play where he went in

661
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 11: off the mist, I think that was the second time, uh,

662
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 11: the second miss on.

663
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: The free throws.

664
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Speaker 11: But when he came in and dunked that thing and

665
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 11: Donovan Mitchell's rolling on the ground.

666
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: That was my.

667
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 11: Favorite play maybe piecer history. So anyway, I digress, I

668
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 11: digress anyway.

669
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Speaker 1: About Ady Mitchell.

670
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Speaker 11: You know, in the NFL, coaches lose with potential, and

671
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 11: that's what Steikn's looking at is losing. Uh And if

672
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 11: he loses the lady on the sidelines with no eyes

673
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 11: that's taking notes every day, he won't be around. In

674
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 11: my opinion, So I think that the word potential is

675
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 11: great in high school, pretty good in college, but the

676
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 11: NFL potential is a really bad thing because you lose

677
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 11: with the potential. And my second and I don't know

678
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 11: much about football compared to you guys, but could you

679
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 11: explain to me about what you thought about the time

680
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 11: management at the end of the second and fourth quarter,

681
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 11: because I'm if I'm right, in the second quarter, we

682
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 11: kept throwing the ball until finally we didn't have enough

683
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 11: time and gave them the ball back with a considerable

684
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 11: amount of time. So thank you, thank you for taking

685
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 11: my call. And I was just curious if you if

686
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 11: you'd talk about that.

687
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: Okay, now I'll begin with this when it comes to

688
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: time clock management, and there's there are one of the

689
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Speaker 1: things that I think is and you are correct about potential, Dave.

690
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Shane Steichen was a coach that

691
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: when he first came in. I think that our thought

692
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: process was like, there's you know, they were tapping into

693
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: the potential, right, the offensive minded coach, the quarterback minded coach.

694
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: But now he is going to have to grow into

695
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: being the head coach. And I think one of the

696
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: things about being a head coach that is a challenge

697
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: for any young head coach is and I think Shane

698
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: Steichen would tell you early in his tenure this was

699
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: the case, and that is that I always say, you know,

700
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: the arrows are flying so fast and things are going

701
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: past you at such a rate that you know you're

702
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: looking at it and you go back and you say,

703
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: I should have called a time here, I should have

704
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: called but things are happening so fast you don't necessarily

705
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: stop and look at it in a vacuum itself. If

706
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, and I could be wrong in this,

707
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: I believe at the end of the first half, at

708
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: the end of the second quarter, they actually ended with

709
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Speaker 1: the ball, did they not?

710
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 7: The Colts, So they're starting to drive a little bit,

711
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 7: they get pass heavy. Next thing, you know, they had

712
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 7: a penalty, so it's you know, they get backed up

713
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 7: first in twenty Daniel Jones. This was three minutes left,

714
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 7: Danil Jones incompletion Jonathan Taylor six yard run on thirty

715
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 7: and twenty, So they have the clock moving. That's when

716
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 7: Rico Bartel Sanchez and this was an important sequence, Jake

717
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 7: Is that's when Sanchez, so they can gave it back

718
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 7: to two minutes left, right, Yeah, with two fourteen left

719
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 7: and thirteenth plays ninety six yards in zone touchdown.

720
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they I would agree with the fact that

721
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: it's questionable that you go with that number of pass

722
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: plays if you want to be nitpicky at the end

723
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: of the second quarter, because it allows that much more

724
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: time when you give it back to the Rams and

725
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: then you know, in the end of the game itself.

726
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there it's tough because you have the

727
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: they they get the first down to Mitchell actually, and

728
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: then the pick happens and then the game is over, right,

729
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: But I thought they I wasn't unhappy with the amount

730
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: of time that they could have had to go down

731
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: the field at the end of the game, per se.

732
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there were and I'm trying to think of

733
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: the other game that I watched. You see it so

734
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: much in the NFL Now Sunday Night game last night,

735
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: which was a fabulous game obviously, but green Bay completely,

736
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, miss it. And then you know green

737
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: Bay in the way that they scored, you kind of

738
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: knew that they gave Dallas too much time, right, well, yeah,

739
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: and then the overtime, like there's twenty seconds left on

740
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: the on the second down play and Jordan Left's is

741
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: casually Yeah, it's like trying to get to the end

742
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: zone with what one second left or something. Yeah, man,

743
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: if that ball doesn't hit him square the defenders square

744
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: on the back and just fall right to the ground,

745
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: they gave me over Yeah, you're right, You're right, because, yeah,

746
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: he was too careless at the end there with how

747
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: much time was left on that final play. Yeah, my

748
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: point being, Dave, it is one thing that I think

749
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: more often than not, I think the number one thing

750
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: to be able to look back on and question is

751
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: clock management with teams. And I think that what separates

752
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: probably average coaches or good coaches even from elite coaches

753
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: are those that handle that situation because more often than not,

754
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: it's the easiest thing to second guess, and I think

755
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: that I just think that coaches get caught up in

756
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: the quickness of what's happening, and even the best of

757
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: the best, the arrows are flying too fast for him.

758
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: I know that that's kind of a cop out answer,

759
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: but you know, as for Shane Steichen and what he

760
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: had to say after the game, now, Nick sent me

761
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: a text said, Jake, I'm going to predict it right now.

762
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Stiken's simply going to say they got to clean some

763
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: stuff up. Let's hear if that's what he says.

764
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Speaker 8: Penalties. It really comes down to fundamental and technique and

765
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 8: the penalties, and it's really it's been in the red zone,

766
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 8: you know the last couple weeks. We got to clean

767
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 8: that up because that's huge. I mean, there was probably

768
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Speaker 8: a couple where we kind of had score thirty four,

769
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 8: you know, with touchdowns. I gotta go back and look

770
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 8: at Warren's play there where he caught it down to

771
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 8: the three. Look at that one and obviously the big

772
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 8: run JT. You know, to take the lead there. So

773
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Speaker 8: I gotta get those cleaned up.

774
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Speaker 3: Eddie.

775
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Speaker 12: What do you know, not once but twice, right, Hell yeah,

776
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 12: they clean it up it's a clean up Monday, right,

777
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 12: been a while since we've had to clean things up,

778
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 12: but they got to clean some things up.

779
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: You know, when I think clean, I think Mike Chapel,

780
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: we're going to clean it up. Chap joins us next Monday,

781
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: one o'clock. You know what that means. Mike Chapel CBS

782
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: four and wxin Fox fifty nine to break down what

783
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: happened with the Colts. And again I'll summarize what I

784
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: said earlier and then we'll let chap kind of opine

785
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: from there. I know it was a disappointing game yesterday

786
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: the Colts. Now though, three and one. You take the

787
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: good with that, because if I would have told anybody

788
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: back in early August the Colts are going to be

789
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: three and one through the first four games, all of

790
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: you would have taken that. And you know, eight days

791
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: a week to quote the Beatles and Adie Mitchell yesterday

792
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: was Yes, he is the target that we're going to

793
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: talked the most about. But there were a lot of

794
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: other things that did them in. You know, eleven penalties

795
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: did him in. The ten men on the field did

796
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: him in. The depleted secondary did them in. And it's

797
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: easy to say that that all falls on the fault

798
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: of Ady Mitchell, but at some point it becomes the

799
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: fault of those that continue to tell us to be

800
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: patient with him when we knew that immaturity and lack

801
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: of focus were the reasons that he was the eleventh

802
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: receiver taken in the year that he was selected, and

803
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: that's the reason why we've had to wait and wait

804
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: and wait. Was just that maturity issue. Now I'm not

805
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: saying he's a bad guy, but as a player, still

806
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: an immature guy. But we'll see how he bounces back

807
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: from it. Mike Chapel joining us now on the program.

808
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: A chap Your overall I guess thoughts are observations from

809
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: yesterday or a storyline perhaps that was overshadowed by Ady Mitchell.

810
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: Well, one quick takeaway is I'm really kind of encouraged

811
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: because I think there was some question about whether these

812
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: guys were legit. I really kind of think that, Well,

813
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: you know, Denver gave you the game, and you played

814
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: a crappy Miami team and Tennessee's the worst team in

815
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: the league. They may not win a game. The Rams

816
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: are good, the Rams are very good, right, and you

817
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: just should have won the game, should have, would have,

818
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: could it? All that kind of stuff. So I'm encouraged

819
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: by the fact that I think these guys are legit.

820
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: I really do, and cho own lorder liveit. I thought

821
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 2: these guys could start six and two, I really did,

822
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: if they got confident quarterback play, and they've gotten more

823
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: than that. So I'm not totally shocked. Having said that,

824
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: My goodness, that's the game was there for you, and

825
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: there were probably I don't know five or six things

826
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: that went wrong. There's no downplaying Mitchell's screw ups. It's

827
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: fourteen points. It's fourteen points, and uh, I don't know

828
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: how to explain. It's funny. Last year in December, I

829
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: think it was we're talking with Jonathan Taylor in Denver,

830
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: maybe November. I came when it was December, I think,

831
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: and and I'm thinking, you know, I've seen I've been

832
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: around a long time, and I haven't seen that in forever,

833
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: and now yesterday thinking, I mean, I haven't seen that

834
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: since I don't know December. So you just you just

835
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: can't do that. And Jonathan Taylor wasn't celebrating. He just

836
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: dropped the football ad Mitchell I think was shoe Bolten

837
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: was gonna put the ball out with his right hand

838
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: and all that. Yeah, it's one of those like act

839
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: like you've been there before. Well in the NFL, he

840
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: hasn't been so uh. And then the holy on Taylor.

841
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: We had like the third or fourth third straight game

842
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: with Taylor just doing something ridiculously brilliant and it gets

843
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: called back because Mitchell sort of have tackled the guy

844
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: on the perimeter. So that's fourteen points. And Taylor's touchdown

845
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: was with like two minutes to play, and yeah, the

846
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: Rams might have tied up. I don't know so. But

847
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: then like you, like you said, somebody tell me why

848
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: you've got Xavier Howard on Ontua. I the object is

849
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: to take away the other team's best player, the other

850
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: team's best players Nakua, and you put Xavier Howard on him,

851
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: and he hasn't played well since he's been here.

852
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: You know.

853
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: I guess if they put Mooney Ward on on on Nakua,

854
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: then Devontae Adams goes off. But I would risk that,

855
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: so I and then ten minutes on the field, what

856
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: are you doing? What's that about? So it was just

857
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: incredible mistakes and you're still right there I'm curious to

858
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: how they they react with two things with a D.

859
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: Mitchell is you know, hopefully they get pierced back this

860
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: week and that will diminish more of eight sides. But

861
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: you're right, they say, bear with us. This kid's gonna

862
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: be a great play. He's great talent.

863
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: The catch was incredible, Jap it looked there has never

864
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: let me tell you something you remember Bo Jackson? Right, sure,

865
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: I've always felt like Bo Jackson. And probably the most

866
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: famous game that Bo Jackson played in was that Monday

867
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: night game against the Raid against the Seahawks in Seattle

868
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: when he was with the Raiders and he ran over

869
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: the bas But the other play in that game is

870
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: the one where he turns the corner and he takes

871
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: off down the sideline and he's running so fast he

872
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: goes right into the tunnel.

873
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: Right.

874
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I've always said that that perfectly encapsulated him, because just

875
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: when you realized what you had seen before your very eyes,

876
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: he disappeared. And it was the perfect synopsis of a

877
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: player's career in one play. That might have been the

878
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: perfect synopsis of ad Mitchell because we were we saw

879
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: why we've been told to be so patient. And then

880
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: we saw why we've had to be patient because he

881
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: made a knucklehead play all in one fell swoop right.

882
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it was the perfect synopsis. The question for

883
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: me becomes, how does he respond? How does he respond?

884
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: And do we know do we have enough body of

885
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: work to this point to say from a mental standpoint

886
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: that that might be the play that defines him?

887
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: No, we don't. We know we've don't. We don't, And

888
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 2: I understand your question. I'm more curious how the team

889
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: responds to it. You know, roster spots are so you know, premium.

890
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you yet the guy. I'm not

891
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: saying that at all, but it's this is a game

892
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: of trust and you have to and they said all

893
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: the right things after the game, we have bath and trust,

894
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: and yet he had it well based on what, I mean,

895
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: you know, based on what And I'm going to try

896
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: not to pile on him too much, but but this

897
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: is big boy football. It's it's your profession and they

898
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: preach accountability. That that's what the Chames sticker says, Well,

899
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: it starts with me starting. Okay, but but you're not

900
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: out there dropping the ball at the one yard line.

901
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: You're not out there getting roasted every play by Nikua.

902
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: So I I the accountability would would be to find

903
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: somebody other than Xavian Howard to play at corner. I

904
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: don't think they get Kenny Moore back this week, and

905
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: then even less, see Alan Pierce misses another game. He's

906
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: never missed two games of the concussion. But then you

907
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: see more of Ashton Dulan. You just do so I

908
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm I'm more curious how the team

909
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: responds than I am. I don't know that I expected

910
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: it from Xavian Howard, how he responds. He's just he's

911
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: not playing well.

912
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: You know, Chap in terms of the way the team

913
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: responded to Ady Mitchell yesterday, And I'll start with that response.

914
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: I get it, and they said the right things, and

915
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: we'll play you know, audio for everybody coming up here

916
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones and Sire Franklin what they had to say.

917
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: But is there a fine line in the NFL between

918
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: having a guy's back and coddling a guy?

919
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 8: Oh?

920
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: We see, yeah, yeah, we've seen that a quarterback here

921
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Yeah, there is. Don't talk

922
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: to accountability and then you know, do the old definition

923
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: of insanity. So yeah, I think again this is a

924
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: chance for us to see what their accountability level is. Again,

925
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: I want to say it two spots, because Xavid Howard

926
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: wasn't good yesterday. He just wasn't wasn't good the week

927
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: before the week before that. So so yeah, that's a

928
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: really good point. And your tolerance level for coddling goes

929
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: up with a player's resume and his talent, And right

930
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: now A d Mitchell doesn't have much in the bank

931
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: to keep saying well, you know, patient, No, you only

932
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: play seventeen games. It's a long season. It is. You

933
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 2: play seventeen games, and you know, things even out against

934
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: should have lost to Denver, you should have won yesterday,

935
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: so they sort of even out. But I would hate

936
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: for these guys in January, the max a boy like

937
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 2: like last year in Denver. They losing game in Denver

938
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: and it cost him.

939
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: It cost him.

940
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: So I'm I want to see how they deal with it.

941
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 2: I want to see how this team bounces back against

942
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: the Raiders who showed you what they can be yesterday.

943
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: But this is still a good team. But you just

944
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: can't go on and say, well, these guys will come

945
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: out of this on their own, because that's you can't

946
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: you can't bank on that.

947
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: Are we burying the lead though, in the fact that

948
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: we're so focused on the eighty Mitchell play. Mike Chapler

949
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: guests from CBS four and WXA and Fox fifty nine.

950
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: The Dean of Coult writers, we were so focused on

951
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: the Mitchell mistakes that and I agree with you Chap

952
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: fundamentally that there were things that were encouraging about that game,

953
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: but there were also just such incredible mental errors, like

954
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: the eleven penalties and like having only ten men on

955
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: the field and the most critical play of the game.

956
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: How does that happen?

957
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: No question, I don't know. I can't bind them sort

958
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: of seet He said, we had a feeling before the

959
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: play that things weren't right, and then he said his

960
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: players and his coaches. He pointed into the coaches as well,

961
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: they got coach, they get they got more coaches than

962
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: you've got fans, Jake, I mean, they got coaches everywhere,

963
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: and somebody is responsible for getting the right guys out there.

964
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: Did you say that I have fans? Is that what

965
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: you said, that I have fans? I said, because that

966
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: would be Listen, your grandson's basketball team at the Beach Grove.

967
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: Why has more coaches than I have fans?

968
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: Right, well, that would be that, that would be the

969
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: Mount Vernon Wide. But now but they've got people that

970
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: they got people to do that. I mean to make

971
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: sure you've got the right the right people, the right

972
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: a number of people from crying out louts. Maybe it

973
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't have mattered because Blackman fell down and you leave

974
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: that well wide open and running through. Maybe that the

975
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: extra player would have been somewhere else it would have mattered.

976
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: But that doesn't matter. You got to have you know,

977
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 2: like like mine have said ten verses eleven, you're gonna lose.

978
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose, and you just know that when a

979
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: guy's open like that, Matthew Stafford is gonna find him.

980
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: He he just hit him astride. So that's how I

981
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: say that. There were so many mistakes from a team

982
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: that for the first three games didn't do much wrong,

983
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: no turnovers, and you know they have to love penalty

984
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 2: against Denver. I think it was but by and large

985
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: they played pretty clean and yesterday was in bud Cletan.

986
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 2: There was pressure on Jones. The second interception I don't

987
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: throw I guess you had some time outs and all that,

988
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: but I thought he he, he would be down my

989
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: list of worries. Jonathan Taylor played well, Josh Stown's made

990
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 2: some key plays, past protection was not very good. I thought,

991
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 2: even with two sacks Uh and dumb Donny, you still

992
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: could have should have won the game if if Mitchell

993
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: doesn't mugged the guy on the on the end, and

994
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor gives you another highlight.

995
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: You know the thing, Chap, that's encouraging because you know,

996
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: I know they lost, and I know people want to,

997
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, fret and complain, and I get it after

998
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: a loss. But the reality is this, now that we've

999
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: seen four games, and you're right, Tennessee is terrible. I

1000
00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: mean they're terrible, right, Tennessee and Carolina they're they're awful, right,

1001
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: two worst teams in the league. But now that we've

1002
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: seen them go into LA and we're talking about how

1003
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: the Colts cost themselves, you know, it's like the Rams

1004
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: didn't beat the Colts. The Colts beat the Colts. And

1005
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: so when you look at that, you have to be

1006
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: encouraged because now you start looking at the schedule wondering

1007
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: where they're going to lose another game. I mean, the

1008
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: going to LA and taking on the Chargers is going

1009
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: to be a big challenge, but coming back and getting

1010
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders and Cardinals at home, I mean, they've got

1011
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: a chance, to your point, to be five and one,

1012
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: and then you know, maybe they go five and two.

1013
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: But outside of that, the schedule is pretty favorable for them.

1014
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, this legitimately looks like the in fact, the

1015
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: groundwork is there for them to be a not just

1016
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: a playoff team, but a contending playoff team. Am I beat?

1017
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: Am I too bullish? Too early?

1018
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: No?

1019
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: That because again I kind of again I saw that

1020
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: as a possibility just because so much is on the quarterback.

1021
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: It just is.

1022
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: And they've gotten very, very good play from the quarterback.

1023
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: But has they said that then you can't do stupid

1024
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: things around him? And again he was he was far

1025
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: from perfect yesterday. But again that's why I say, part

1026
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: of me is encouraged by how they played, just because

1027
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: they went out there and they had a chance to

1028
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 2: win the game they did. In the past, I think

1029
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: the Colt's team might go out there against a quality

1030
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: Rams team or whatever and just give boat race and

1031
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: that wasn't the case. So again I'm encouraged by that,

1032
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: But then you come back to the bottom line, and

1033
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: you can't do ten things wrong and beat a good team.

1034
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: Can't do it. Kevin Bowden had a good point. Was

1035
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: it the end of the first half where the Sanchez

1036
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: pins him at the four yard line and the Rams

1037
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: go ninety six yards at the end of the half? Yep,

1038
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,479
Speaker 2: that's you just can't do that. So but they still

1039
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: held them to twenty until the late touchdown. So again,

1040
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: very very a lot of reasons to be encouraged. But

1041
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: if you think you can go out there and do

1042
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff week after a week, you're delusional.

1043
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: Chapter three turnovers get your beat.

1044
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: The issue at defensive backfield in the defensive backfield, you know,

1045
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: and Xavier and Howard to your point, I'd like, you know,

1046
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: it would be easy to throw the Colts under the

1047
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: bus there and say what in the world are they doing?

1048
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily their fault. I mean, if there's

1049
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: something to be to give them a pass, I guess

1050
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: if you will, it's the fact that they're having to

1051
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: play with guys in those positions that weren't even on

1052
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: the roster when training camp began because of attrition. Can

1053
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: you literally limp your way in waiting for Jalen Jones

1054
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore to come back, or are they in the

1055
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: situation where they're going to have to start scanning the

1056
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: free agent wires again?

1057
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: Well, free agent wires, that's that's where you got Jamian Howard.

1058
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: That's right, But I mean right, no, I I.

1059
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 2: I if I'm not mistaken, I think Jalen Jones as

1060
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: l's worth come off this week now. Whether he's read

1061
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: or not, I don't know.

1062
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 7: Again, Kenny says he's not one more week, right, yeah,

1063
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 7: because that was week one, right, Chap, So you're here

1064
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 7: have to miss.

1065
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, he's got one more. He's got

1066
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: one more week.

1067
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 6: So.

1068
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: Play Jonathan Edwards some more. I don't know. Uh, most

1069
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: teams aren't going to have Coupah DeVante Adams combination again.

1070
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: I just come back to Bill Belichick was great on

1071
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: taking again. He would take a guy away, Marvin Drian,

1072
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: Riggie somebody and make somebody else beat you. I would

1073
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: rather you make DeVante Adams beat me. And he's a great,

1074
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: great player. Then Nakua had one hundred and seventy yards

1075
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: career high and is his third career high. If you remember,

1076
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: came as a rookie again the coach when he had

1077
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: won sixty three, and he designed that to cover him

1078
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: in overtime. Uh So, I just make somebody else beat you,

1079
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: make somebody the Nico Connins beat you. And I just

1080
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: will talk to Lou and Amo tomorrow, and I just

1081
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: want to understand why you continually put Xavian Howard on

1082
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: their best player. The nine yard touchdown they put, they

1083
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: put Howard on him, and I don't get it. I

1084
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: just don't get it. I realize I'm not a football savant,

1085
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: but I just want somebody else to beat me. And

1086
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: that's not what happened yesterday.

1087
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel, our guest, chap let's go to this when

1088
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: you look at you know again we've nitpicked the negatives here, right,

1089
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: Let's go with three positives. You talked about Jonathan Taylor,

1090
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: but aside from that, I'll start with Daniel Jones. I

1091
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: thought yesterday, and you tell me if you agree with this.

1092
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: It was very interested to see how he would respond

1093
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: to his first pick, and obviously he threw to yesterday.

1094
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: But we've seen quarterbacks where the wheels can kind of

1095
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: come off especially early in a game, in that situation

1096
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: and in a hostile environment. I thought he was pretty

1097
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: poised and over the course of the game, especially like

1098
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: that Mitchell throw, he put the ball at times where

1099
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: it needed to be. I thought he was impressive yesterday.

1100
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: But am I too kind?

1101
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: No, And again we've kind of had lower standards on

1102
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: what we thought what we think efficient play is.

1103
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: I thought he was fine.

1104
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: I just you know, he anderthrows what was Mitchell on

1105
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: the first one deep for the interception? If he lays

1106
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: it out there, it's probably a long game. I thought

1107
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: he played fine. He played winning football. The interception at

1108
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: the end. He got too greedy too soon, I thought.

1109
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: But made some great plays downs, a couple of great

1110
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: throws to Tyler Warren. That kid, gosh, that kid.

1111
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1112
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: He just they keep finding different ways to use him,

1113
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: which we knew they would, you know, the wildcat and

1114
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: the and then the full back with the touchdown, and

1115
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: they had their own version of the toushbush to get

1116
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: him in. So I thought Jones played fine. Again, if

1117
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: you want to list ten things that went wrong, he's

1118
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: number ten. Which again that's why I say it's encouraging,

1119
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: because I think You're right, A lot of a lot

1120
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: of people are waiting for the wheels to come off

1121
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: and say, oh, that's why it didn't go right, and

1122
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: in the in New York, that's why the Giants got.

1123
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: Rid of him. And we haven't seen that.

1124
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: Uh, And I don't think we're going to see some

1125
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: of the mistakes moving forward. The Bernard Ryman had a

1126
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: bad game, holding penalties in the red zone and and

1127
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: all that were. I still not sure what Tyler Warren

1128
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: did on his past interference. I need to see again.

1129
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: We're not gonna see a lot of that moving forward.

1130
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: We're not gonna see living penalties moving forward. So I thought,

1131
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: if I thought it's the wheels, we're gonna come off, yes,

1132
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: it was a great day for that to happen with Jones,

1133
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: and it did not happen.

1134
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, Chap. I mean, you know you've

1135
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: been covering the NFL since it came to Indianapolis. It

1136
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: seems to me like offensive line, and you tell me

1137
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong here, but it seems to me like,

1138
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: in particular, left tackle is the position where even the

1139
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: very best to play the position just have an occasional

1140
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: off day, Like it just is one of those. I

1141
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: think it's a timing position, and you know, you have

1142
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks gonna have an off day, sure, but it seems

1143
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: like the very best of tackles or guards that we

1144
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: have seen come through this town, even the very best

1145
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: of them, have games where just like psychologically, they're just

1146
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: off and their timing is just off for the day,

1147
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: and then the next week they kind of get back

1148
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: on the horse again. That seemed to be the case

1149
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: yesterday with Ryman, did it not?

1150
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: I hope so? And again I wish I was to

1151
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 2: look at my notes. I thought he missed part of

1152
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: the day of practice last week with an illness, and

1153
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: now whether he's been fighting something, I don't know. The

1154
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: Rams have a really good front seven. They really do

1155
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: got There was one play that Jared Verse just ran

1156
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: over the borderline. Holy smokes. But you know, if you're

1157
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: not on top of your game, yell exposure, they simply

1158
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: will because they've got guys that everybody's got guys that

1159
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: are that good. And it's sort of the unfair nature.

1160
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: But the reality of the business is if a left

1161
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: tackle has three bad plays, he has a bad game,

1162
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: right And if the right end had three good plays

1163
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: and forty seven terrible plays. He's an all pro, so

1164
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: it a lie even just can't afford to have bad plays.

1165
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: I think Bernio bounce back, he's he's he's been okay,

1166
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: not as good as he's been, but he's He's not high.

1167
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 3: On my list of worries either.

1168
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting when Mike Hilton had to play,

1169
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, when when the Rams had the fumble and

1170
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: immediately they're like, Mike Hilton comes flashing in and makes

1171
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: a play, and I'm like, you know, he kind of

1172
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: got credit for it, and he was in the right

1173
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: place to cause a disruption, but it almost in the

1174
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: replay You're like, no, I think actually there was he's

1175
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: spinning out of the play and the fumble happens, and

1176
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: so Hilton kind of got credit there, but you got

1177
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: to be in position. I guess he was. You know,

1178
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 1: he was in the right spot. But my point being,

1179
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: there are some guys that you can put into situation

1180
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: like Hilton where you just pick him up and you

1181
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: put him in there and he's familiar with the defense

1182
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: and he's able to at least be in position, and

1183
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: then others like Howard that it just seems like the

1184
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: expiration date has come well.

1185
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: And again he didn't play last year and he had

1186
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: that was at the foot injury in twenty three with Miami,

1187
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: and he sort of made it sound like that he

1188
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: didn't play last year. It wasn't because of the foot.

1189
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: It was because of situations. But he didn't play last year.

1190
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's if a guy is healthy enough, then

1191
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: at that position, somebody's gonna give you a chance. They

1192
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: just are. So something went on there. All I know

1193
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: is that he's not been what they thought. And just

1194
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: because he and Lou have a history, okay, so what

1195
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: you know that that's got an expiration date too, And

1196
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm really curious to hear what Lou has

1197
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: to say, yes tomorrow or late tomorrow when he talks

1198
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 2: with the media, because it's kind of like the old

1199
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: Daisy and Lucy. You know, you got some explaining the dude.

1200
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: Just because it was a strange game.

1201
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 7: Defensive wind chap I thought with no alec Pearce that

1202
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 7: there was baby the potential to get Josh downs going.

1203
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 7: He plays thirty eight of the sixty one snaps, has

1204
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 7: four catches for twenty four yards. Is there something going

1205
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 7: on that we don't know. I understand Tyler Warren takes

1206
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 7: away a lot of the things that you know, Josh

1207
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 7: Downs likes to do, but they just seemingly have not

1208
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 7: been able to get him going. And I think yesterday

1209
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 7: was the lowest snapcount of the season despite no Alean

1210
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 7: Kruscher downs, no.

1211
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 2: Tyler Warreon, no Tyler Warren takes away a lot of

1212
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: Josh Downs. He does, he does. Heavy said that Josh

1213
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: Downs needs to be more involved, and that's why Alec

1214
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: Pierce is sort of the ideal guy to be in

1215
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 2: this receiver rotation because I think it's an amazing thing

1216
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: about Alec Pears is how unselfish externally he is.

1217
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 3: Now he may boil.

1218
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: Inside, but he seems like he's just fine getting four

1219
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: targets and three catches because he's gonna make a couple

1220
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 2: of big plays, and I think that's very rare for

1221
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: a receiver, it really is. But they need to get

1222
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 2: Downs again. The fat that people need to remember is

1223
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: Josh had had more catches in his first two years

1224
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: than any player in franchise history, and this franchise is

1225
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: have some pretty good receivers, so they need to get

1226
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: in more involved. He's the guy that I think has

1227
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: to be frustrated by his his lack of involvement. But

1228
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: it's hard to do that when you're three and one

1229
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: and whenever they go to him, it's like third and

1230
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: seven and he gets you eight or more. Uh, he's

1231
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 2: the one that they need to find more targets. But Doggne,

1232
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us talked in the offseason

1233
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: that Tyler Warren is going to get a lot of

1234
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 2: that stuff, and there are you know, they put Michael

1235
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: Pittman's off to a good start and so JT. So

1236
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: there are only so many targets in a game. I

1237
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: don't think they want to throw the ball forty times

1238
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 2: a game or whatever. What did Jones with the twenty

1239
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: three or thirty four? That's probably a few too many

1240
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 2: for them. Yeah, Josh Stawns is a guy that they've

1241
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: got to find a way to get more involved. I

1242
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: agree with that. You know.

1243
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: The again, the funny thing about it, to put a

1244
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: tie on all of it, Chap, is the fact that

1245
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: they're three and one. And if I would have told

1246
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: you when I was handing you a Beatles shirt back

1247
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: at camp that they were going to start out three

1248
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: and one and that we would be nitpicking, like two

1249
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: boneheaded plays to cost them. You would have said, sign

1250
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: me up all day long, right, sign me up all

1251
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: day long for that good question.

1252
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: It's all about you know they always break down the

1253
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 2: season into quarters. Without screwy seventeenth game, you're three and one.

1254
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean you're telling me you wouldn't take that back

1255
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: in August like you said you would. I would much

1256
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: rather be three and one, no one. I've got things

1257
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 2: to fix than being on and for and say, man,

1258
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 2: how do we fix this? Because the things that were

1259
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: messed up yesterday are fixable, and I'm curious how they

1260
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: go about trying to fix them. Uh that's again the

1261
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: next couple of days. I want to hear what we

1262
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: get changed stacking later. I don't know that he's gonna

1263
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: give with a lot just because he wants to see

1264
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 2: the tape, and that's that's what coaches do. They're not

1265
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 2: going to really dive deep into it. I think I

1266
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: think Lou will give us some insight on what the

1267
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 2: heck's going on and how personnel wise. Personnel wise, you're

1268
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to address it until you get

1269
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: a couple of these.

1270
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: Guys back twenty four of thirty three. Yesterday Daniel Jones

1271
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: to sixty two with a touch and two picks. We

1272
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: will come from Daniel Jones.

1273
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: Thirty three passes are okay.

1274
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 3: I can deal with that.

1275
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see johnath Tae get a few more carries,

1276
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: but that's just me.

1277
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: Taylor seventeen for seventy six. We'll hear from Daniel Jones.

1278
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: We'll let you know what he had to say coming

1279
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: up in just a couple of minutes. Chap appreciate the

1280
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: time as always, Thank you you guys being well. Mike Chapel,

1281
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: CBS four and WXA and Fox fifty nine will let

1282
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: you hear from Daniel Jones. Desire Franklin coming up. And

1283
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: yesterday was glorious for a number of reasons. And I

1284
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: don't mean the football game. It was glorious and in

1285
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: all its glory, there is one person that has to

1286
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: be the happiest, one person who yesterday went to bed

1287
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: and said, gosh, dart it today was as good a

1288
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: day as I ever could have imagined. I'll tell you

1289
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: who next, not gonna lie to you. I like the

1290
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 1: late starts. I like the late start on a Sunday

1291
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: to get up do what you need to do in

1292
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: the morning, whether it be go to a family breakfast,

1293
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: whether it be go to church, whether it be you know,

1294
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: enjoy working out in the yard, whatever. And yesterday was glorious.

1295
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean it was gorgeous. I don't know if you

1296
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: know this or not, Eddie, but yesterday, basically and this

1297
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: morning when you got up and you're on your way

1298
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: into work, that's what it's like in Los Angeles, like

1299
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty days a year. Los angel Diego.

1300
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 7: I was about to say Los Angeles or San Diego, Jake,

1301
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 7: San Diego as well. You get that coastal breeze. Beautiful boy,

1302
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 7: I wish I was going to Los Angeles. The playoffs

1303
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 7: taken on the Dodgers. How about that man, the Reds

1304
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 7: Now miracles do exist, Jake.

1305
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: Okay, allow me to ask this before we get to

1306
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: back into who was the most happy yesterday, Not name

1307
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: the Reds. I know that I went on my old

1308
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: man rant and people told me to get off the

1309
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: lawn whatever a couple of weeks ago. But the Reds

1310
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: didn't even win their I mean, they basically backed their

1311
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: way into the playoffs because the Marlins took care of

1312
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: the Mets and the Reds were in I believe Milwaukee,

1313
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: right they were, and they went out in the field

1314
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: and they still did like a champagne thing.

1315
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 7: They saw Jake that it was the first time they

1316
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 7: made the playoffs in years.

1317
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: I get it.

1318
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 7: But you tell them the Reds some credit.

1319
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: Come on, now, Reds and Dodgers, Cubs and Padres, right.

1320
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 7: I mean they let's see, they won nine of their

1321
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 7: last thirteen games.

1322
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: I've got Is it unusual that I have a team

1323
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for in the NL and a team I'm

1324
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: rooting for in the AL? Not at all? Who is

1325
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: your ale team? I don't know.

1326
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 7: I haven't picked one yet.

1327
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: I'll be rooting for the Blue Jays in the American League,

1328
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: of course, of course, I'm the Reds in the Nation League.

1329
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 7: Boys, Okay, Boston in New York. I didn't even see that.

1330
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 7: That's juicy, juicy stuff.

1331
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: So yesterday, of all the baseball teams, we're talking about,

1332
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: all the teams in the National Football League that won

1333
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: the two happiest guys on Earth yesterday sitting back rubbing

1334
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: their hands, saying, bring it on, baby. I'm assuming this

1335
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: is still the case. At least it was a year

1336
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: ago in terms of representation c J. Leboy and Michael Swinson. CJ.

1337
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: Lea Boy and Michael Swinson. Swinson is not the guy

1338
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: that owns the fabulous ice cream part of that used

1339
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: to be in Glendale. No, Michael Swinson and c J.

1340
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: Leboy are the co agents for Alec Pearce. And you've

1341
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: got to think that yesterday, Alec Pierce his value continued

1342
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: to go up because if you're the Colts and you're

1343
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, you know what, we can let like

1344
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: Pierce go in free agency if somebody comes along to

1345
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 1: make him big deal. Because we got Adie Mitchell. I'm

1346
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: not saying Adie Mitchell doesn't show that he's got some talent,

1347
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: but Adie Mitchell also absolutely shows that he's got some

1348
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: growing up to do. Daniel Jones is the quarterback that

1349
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: was throwing the ball to Adie Mitchell. His thoughts from

1350
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones yesterday on the Ady Mitchell fumble.

1351
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 13: He made a heck of a catch from that play

1352
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 13: to get to the ball there. Incredible, incredible catch. Yeah,

1353
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 13: I many tough play for sure, you know, after such

1354
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 13: a tremendous effort and just lost the ball there at

1355
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 13: the end. But feel for him. I know, I know

1356
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 13: he he hurts with that, but you know he'll bounce back.

1357
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 13: And he's a hard working guy. He's in there every

1358
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 13: day grinding. So we all have a lot of faith

1359
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 13: in a D. And you know, I'll continue to have

1360
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 13: a ton of faith in a D. And you know,

1361
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 13: one play doesn't define any ball game.

1362
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 3: You know, we didn't do enough today to win the game.

1363
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 1: One play does not. That's correct, So why not add

1364
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: to it. One play doesn't define a ballgame? So let's

1365
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: have a second like, for example, that Johnathan Taylor run.

1366
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: And yes, you could certainly make the case or make

1367
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: the point that Jonathan Taylor does not get that long

1368
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: touchdown run without the hold from Ady Mitchell, maybe that's

1369
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: what sprung him free. But nonetheless, Mitchell still has that

1370
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: second play, and thus that does even more define yesterday

1371
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: the game. And we'll see how long we will remember

1372
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: it as the Ady Mitchell game. Johnanthan Taylor, you would think,

1373
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: probably was grateful and I'm saying that facetiously for the

1374
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: fact that Adie Mitchell by dropping that ball, Yes, it

1375
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: reawakened our memory, our PTSD of that Johnathan Taylor play

1376
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: in Denver, but at the same time kind of took

1377
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: Taylor off the hook because now it's like, oh good,

1378
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: the running back no longer is the guy that we

1379
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: think of for the most boneheaded drop of the football

1380
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: going into the end zone. That now belongs to Adie Mitchell.

1381
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: But with all of that going into it, because because

1382
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: after that play took place with Mitchell, the next series out,

1383
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: they showed Mitchell, you know, in the huddle and he's

1384
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: just kind of wandering. He was like the lonely kid

1385
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: in right field and little league, just wandering picking daisies off.

1386
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: Aside from the huddle, they showed him on the sidelines

1387
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: almost seemed inconsolable. And for a guy that his mental

1388
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: focus has been the question mark to this point, then

1389
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: you wonder what his mental focus is going to be

1390
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: coming off of that. Daniel Jones, leader of the offense,

1391
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: quarterback of the team, what exactly do you say to

1392
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell after a game like that where not one,

1393
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: now but two plays might have defined.

1394
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 13: It, making sure he knows I'm going to keep coming

1395
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 13: to him and keep counting on him and communicate that

1396
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 13: to him.

1397
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: He cares a lot about this.

1398
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 13: He works hard, he's you know he's one of those guys,

1399
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 13: so just kind of encourage him to play the next play,

1400
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 13: move forward, and you know that's the communication there. But

1401
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 13: like I said, one play doesn't define the.

1402
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: Well again, a second kind of did. Now in terms

1403
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: of going to him, I was very intrigued by this

1404
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: for a couple of possessions. I made a note as

1405
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: soon as that play happened with Mitchell, I went to

1406
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: the box score and looked at the number of targets

1407
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: he'd had. He had three to that point, and I thought,

1408
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: what are the odds at the end of the game

1409
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: that it's going to be three targets to Adie Mitchell

1410
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: and that the Colts are just going to say, it's fine,

1411
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: but we're just not going to go to you.

1412
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 10: Now.

1413
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: You know, we have seen quarterbacks in this town that

1414
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: there are two different things that kind of become their

1415
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: calling card. If you look at Peyton Manning and Peyton

1416
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: Manning's time, I think receivers knew that you only got

1417
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: so many looks that he would go to you before

1418
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: he would then go in a different direction or find

1419
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: another guy that he trusted. Not forever, but I'm saying

1420
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: over the course the game and Andrew luck is a

1421
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: player that the big number of times that his team

1422
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: would score on possessions after he had thrown a pick,

1423
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: and his ability to quote Ted Lasso to be a

1424
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: goldfish and just flip from that. And in Daniel Jones' case,

1425
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: I was curious not only of would he go away

1426
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 1: from Ady Mitchell, but after throwing the early pick, for example,

1427
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: would he settle in? And I thought Jones did. I

1428
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: thought he looked confident yesterday. I thought he looked pretty

1429
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: much in command. But late in the game, first off,

1430
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: after that one of the possessions right after the Ady

1431
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: Mitchell drop is when the Colts needed to play and

1432
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: they went to Ashton Doolan, who is kind of Ashton

1433
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: Dulan just kind of seems like that guy that you

1434
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: don't you know, he's the he's the copier guy. One

1435
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: of my terms every off has it the guy that

1436
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: everybody's sitting around. It's like, what's going on, Like we

1437
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: have the copier is not working. And then literally it's

1438
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: like in this building, it's Scotty. Call Scotty, he'll know

1439
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: what to do. I have a question for you, Jake.

1440
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 7: This is more philosophical than anything else in your belief.

1441
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 7: If you're in that position with Shane Steichen, are you

1442
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 7: one that would rather bench him for a couple series

1443
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 7: so that he can get his mind back in the

1444
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 7: game or on the first play of the next series,

1445
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 7: do you go right back to him to take a

1446
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 7: quarterback questions? No, great question. I think that's your quarterback question,

1447
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 7: that that that goes to the quarterback. That's and yes,

1448
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 7: we've kind of seen both of that in this town

1449
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 7: over the years in terms of what the quarterback does.

1450
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 7: And they went to Dulan is my point, Like Duelan

1451
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 7: the copier guy, is that they bring him in and

1452
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 7: they go to him.

1453
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: Maybe that was to kind of wake up eighty Mitchell.

1454
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: But late in the game, you notice on that last

1455
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: drive when they needed a first down, I think it

1456
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: was a third and ten, maybe they go to a

1457
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: twelve yard play two eighty Mitch and he makes that play.

1458
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: Now in that moment, does I don't you know you're

1459
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: not designing as the play caller, meaning Shane Stikeen to

1460
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: go to a specific guy, But it's well within the

1461
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: first or second of your progression, and Jones went to him,

1462
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: and so they did give him opportunity to close it,

1463
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: I guess in making a play for them, and then

1464
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: obviously the turnover. But Zire Franklin is one that I

1465
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: noticed during all of that time. When Mitchell came to

1466
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 1: the sideline, Zire Franklin was one of the first to

1467
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: go over and really kind of try to lift him up.

1468
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,520
Speaker 1: Zire Franklin after the game on Adie Mitchell.

1469
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 14: It's another example of another young player who made him

1470
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 14: had made a great play, made a mistake, and he

1471
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 14: know's got to learn from and respond from how he responds.

1472
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 14: This is the biggest part to meet. That's a special play.

1473
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 14: I don't know anybody else on our team that's able

1474
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 14: to catch the ball and then go and do that afterwards.

1475
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 14: I would lean into that more than than how to

1476
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 14: fit result edavan and just tell him the continue to

1477
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 14: build and grow on that.

1478
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: So, now here's the thing. I get everything he said.

1479
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: And he is a young player. I mean he'll be

1480
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: twenty three in a week basically, but he's in his

1481
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 1: second year in the NFL. And again, at some point

1482
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: you got to be able to put that behind you.

1483
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: There was more than just a Colts game that took

1484
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: place this weekend. By the way, Aaron Nesmith in about

1485
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. But we come back. Did we see

1486
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments of college football get away

1487
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: from the state of Indiana and then find its way back.

1488
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 1: I'll explain what I mean next. More on the Colts

1489
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: coming up about fifteen minutes from now to the text

1490
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: line we go before I get into what might have

1491
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: gone away from and come back to Indiana over the weekend. Hey, Jake,

1492
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: the Reds should celebrate. They won more games that matter

1493
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: than sixteen other teams. That from Matt and Avon. Hell yes,

1494
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: Matt from Avon. I appreciate the backing here, Jake. What

1495
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,879
Speaker 1: did Carly Urson say? Excuse me, Carly Ursa say yesterday

1496
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: after the game? I actually did not hear did you

1497
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: happen to see know anything? I don't know that they well,

1498
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: they don't. You know, they wouldn't post, obviously the video

1499
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 1: from the locker room after the game yesterday because it

1500
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: was not after a win.

1501
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 3: Jake.

1502
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: The Colts aren't mature enough to deal with all the

1503
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: undefeated talk now that I'll have to deal with that

1504
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: and have a good chance of having a one lost season.

1505
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd go that far. I mean,

1506
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: although when you look at the schedule it seems favorable,

1507
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: but they do have you know, they got to go

1508
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. That's gonna be tough. Pittsburgh's kind of

1509
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: a weird one because does do you think Pittsburgh's you know,

1510
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's kind of that team right now? Like is Pittsburgh good? Yeah,

1511
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean, did I saw

1512
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: this from Trey Essex is a good dude, a former

1513
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: cult and former Steeler, but he was watching the game

1514
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 1: yesterday in Amsterdam. There was a lot of question about

1515
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: after the Steelers game, the interview that Aaron Rodgers did

1516
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: with Pam Oliver. Did you happen to hear that, Eddie,

1517
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: I didn't see if you can pull up. There were

1518
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: people that were questioning if Pam Oliver was slurring on

1519
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: the air. And now she's had I think a history

1520
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: of like migraines or maybe even concussion. She may have

1521
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: at one point had like a neurological health issue. So

1522
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not making light of it under any stretch. But

1523
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: I didn't personally like people were making a huge deal

1524
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: out of it, and I didn't think it sounded that

1525
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 1: terrible to be honest with you, But see if you

1526
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: can find that. When she was interviewing Aaron Rodgers after

1527
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: the game yesterday, it went pretty viral in terms of

1528
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd say she was slurring. She

1529
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: just was speaking very slowly. Did you find it by chance?

1530
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: I think I might have found something, So okay, this

1531
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: is after the game. You might want to listen to

1532
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: it first, just to make sure that it's not somebody

1533
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: doctoring it up. Do we have it here, Pam Oliver? Yesterday?

1534
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 3: Here we go.

1535
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 9: I didn't know if you've got to appreciate it it all,

1536
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 9: but the fans, it's terrible tals people having a mighty.

1537
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: Old good sign.

1538
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 4: Were you able to get a sense of what was

1539
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 4: going on in your environment?

1540
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: She was speaking very slow there. But I'm gonna say this,

1541
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: and I've not heard today in any elaboration on that,

1542
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: but one thing I will where I will give her

1543
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: benefit of doubt here. When you do live television, oftentimes

1544
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 1: you have a lot of audio in your ear, and

1545
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: especially if you're doing it like that where you are overseas,

1546
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 1: and there's the chance of a reverb or what we

1547
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: call mixed minus, which is where where every everything thing

1548
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: you say say is is repeating repeating. It can cause

1549
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: you to like whoa like and you jump back now,

1550
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: A lot of times you'll see people pop that little

1551
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: thing out of their ear. I don't know if that

1552
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: was the case there, but you can't rule it out.

1553
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: But I didn't think that was as egregious as the

1554
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: people that were like, whoa, what in the world is

1555
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,560
Speaker 1: going on? But that was kind of the storyline for

1556
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: a lot of people after that game. But my point being,

1557
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, are the Steelers good? You know, I don't

1558
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: know are the Raiders good. The Raiders can run the ball.

1559
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: We saw that yesterday, but then they missed a field

1560
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: goal late in Chicago gets that win. But Saturday, I'm

1561
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: watching college football and I'm watching Indiana and Iowa. Now,

1562
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: Chris Dido, former quarterback for Indiana, said the following to me,

1563
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: which I think was a really really good point talking

1564
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: about Iowa said, Jake Iowa is an absolute hammer and

1565
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: hard to play against. In Kennick, Indiana did have an

1566
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,480
Speaker 1: answer for Iowa's blitz. They won the game when Mendoza

1567
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: hits sarat on the all out blitz. That was the

1568
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: type of game that Iu loses ninety nine percent of

1569
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: the time by missing the field goal late and then

1570
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: giving up a big pass play. But they hung in

1571
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: there and made Iowa pay the price. That was the

1572
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: type of game that can turn one big play, turn

1573
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: on one big play, and it did for Indiana. Somehow,

1574
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: the football gods continue to shine on the Hoosiers thanks

1575
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff led by coach Signetti. Go Hoosiers.

1576
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 1: That from Chris Ditto. I think it's a really good point.

1577
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: And so Indiana, I mean, you want to talk about

1578
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: clock management. Earlier Dave was calling about clock management. I

1579
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,839
Speaker 1: have no idea what Iowa was doing in clock management

1580
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: in that game. But as I'm watching it, and Indiana

1581
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:38,520
Speaker 1: comes down and Mendoza throws a costly pick that seemingly

1582
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: cost him the game, and Iowa gets the ball and

1583
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: they run literally the worst clock management in the history

1584
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: of mankind. But they miss a field goal they could have.

1585
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: They had a chance essentially to run that clock down

1586
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: and then kick a field goal to win the game.

1587
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: They missed the field goal. It gives Indiana a chance.

1588
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: That was after a third down incompletion on a screen pass. Yeah,

1589
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was unbelievable. And so Indiana

1590
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: gets the ball back and as I'm watching it, I'm

1591
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: thinking to myself.

1592
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 7: Also, thank you Cristuda for proving me wrong.

1593
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: There.

1594
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 3: That's right.

1595
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: Indiana has never had obviously a Heisman winner, right, And

1596
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean this, I'm saying Indiana University, not you know,

1597
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, obviously has. But the closest that Indiana came

1598
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: was Anthony Thompson, who lost it to Andre Ware which

1599
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: was a complete joke in eighty nine and going into

1600
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: that game. And it's very early in the college football season,

1601
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: but Mendoza is getting conversation and many believe is the

1602
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: front runner right now for the Heisman, partially because there

1603
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: just really hasn't had you know, we haven't had anybody

1604
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: that's like completely separated themselves just yet.

1605
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 7: And John Mattier is out for a month with a

1606
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 7: hand injury.

1607
01:28:59,160 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 1: Hand injury.

1608
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 7: I figured that would have been your front runner for Oklahoma.

1609
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 7: But since he has that injury, now he's I think,

1610
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 7: you say, the quarterback at Oregon is in the mix now,

1611
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 7: Rante Mories. You know, Ohio State's got The problem for

1612
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 7: Ohio State is that they have multiple guys, right, So

1613
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 7: it kind of gets split around a little bit in

1614
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 7: terms of their offensive weapons. But Mendoza was His numbers

1615
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 7: were not great against Iowa, But oftentimes the heisman is

1616
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 7: it comes down to you need a signature play. And

1617
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that that was a play that resonated

1618
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 7: anywhere outside of Bloomington, Indiana or Iowa City, Iowa. But

1619
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 7: to step in there as Mendoza did and deliver that

1620
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 7: ball and that play was as much Elijah Surat as

1621
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 7: it was Mendoza. But to deliver that play and put

1622
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 7: that ball right where it needed to go to win

1623
01:29:55,439 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 7: that game and steal a victory away from Iowa, that's

1624
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 7: the kind of stuff. Even though the numbers were not great.

1625
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 7: The problem is the numbers. You look at it and

1626
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 7: he was thirteen to twenty three for two thirty three.

1627
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 7: None of that jumps out of you like wow, you

1628
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 7: know that's big time quarterback production numbers. But delivering when

1629
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 7: his team most needed it and so far in a

1630
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 7: year where nobody else really has delivered, maybe that does

1631
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 7: put that heisman, keep it that heisman right When you

1632
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 7: thought the heisman conversation went away from Indiana, it put

1633
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 7: it right back in the conversation. With Indiana and the

1634
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 7: Hoosiers now ranked in the top ten bye week, and

1635
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 7: then they go to Oregon, who went into Penn State

1636
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 7: and as Penn State always does, James Franklin out four

1637
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 7: and twenty one against teams in the top ten. How

1638
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 7: about Notre Dame demolishing Arkansas, getting Sam Pittman fired that.

1639
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Let me tell you they they did. That game was

1640
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: never in doubt.

1641
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 7: I mean there's a butt whooping and then there's whatever

1642
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 7: that was a butt whooping, and yeah, that game was

1643
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 7: never in doubt.

1644
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: Man.

1645
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: Never Yesterday, big Colts game in LA. Big Colts loss?

1646
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 3: Or was it?

1647
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 1: I think there are silver linings amongst the blue and white.

1648
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I'll explain and aaron Ne Smith going to join us

1649
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes from now. That's how it sounded yesterday.

1650
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: Colts Radio Network Matt Taylor Joe writes on the call.

1651
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: You heard from Adie Mitchell there as well as Shane

1652
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Steichen as the Colts drop one in LA. And I

1653
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier and I'll mention it again, and yes, we

1654
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: have spent the better part of today's show, as I

1655
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 1: know the guys did in the morning as well this morning,

1656
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: and again you heard James Boyd would be back with

1657
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: them tomorrow. Of course he was traveling back after yesterday's

1658
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: game this morning. But the reality is, if the Cold

1659
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 1: go on to whatever they do this season, and you

1660
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: look back on you know, you always have on the sitcoms.

1661
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: You could always tell when a sitcom was towards the

1662
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 1: end of its run and was desperate or whatever else,

1663
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: when they'd had the episode where the family sits around

1664
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: and goes over a photo album and they show highlights

1665
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: over the course of the history of the show, funny moments,

1666
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, the best of that kind of thing. And

1667
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 1: the Colts yearbook when you look back on it, no

1668
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: matter what happens moving forward, when you talk about the

1669
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: Rams game, it's going to be the Ady Mitchell game.

1670
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Just the reality. Yeah, there were a lot of things

1671
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: that we can nitpick in, a lot of things we

1672
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: can be positive about. I actually find silver linings yesterday.

1673
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: I find a silver lining in this.

1674
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: There.

1675
01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: You know, Nikua and Stafford Torch the Colts all day long.

1676
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: And Xavier Howard was as Eddie. I believe you called

1677
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: him burnt Toast, correct, I did, Yes, that used to

1678
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: be the nickname we had for Nesby Glasgow in this

1679
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: town at one time, or Eugene Daniels back in the day,

1680
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: but or Greg Toler, Greig Toler Man, there's a name

1681
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: from the past. But if you look at the Colts

1682
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: yesterday in the areas where they were deficient, this is

1683
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: the silver lining. It's players that are there out of

1684
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: necessity and that weren't necessarily even players that were on

1685
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: the roster at the beginning of the year, but due

1686
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: to attrition. You know, Jalen Jones is out and Kenny

1687
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 1: Moore is out, and so you had Howard getting torched.

1688
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: For example. You had Mike Hilton, who you know, he

1689
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: made he was in the right spot on a couple

1690
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,560
Speaker 1: of occasions, but again a guy that is brought in

1691
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: because he was familiar with lou Anarrumo's defense. And then

1692
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: you had a situation where Enerumo in a critical moment,

1693
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: only had ten players on the field.

1694
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 7: And it looked like Jake that Mike Hilton was the

1695
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 7: guy that was supposed to be out there that was

1696
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 7: not on the field as the eleventh player.

1697
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: So again you give a little bit of a reprieve.

1698
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: I guess in the fact of Okay, there's there's an

1699
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: acquaintance period, a reacquainting period there or these are guys

1700
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: that you are not, presumably in the thick of the

1701
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: year assuming and I know that injuries are like the

1702
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: dal Jones. I mean it's up and down. But if

1703
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: you're going full strength, these are not players that you're

1704
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: counting on. And that also goes to Adie Mitchell because

1705
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: you forget that Alec Pierce was not available, and so

1706
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 1: therefore Mitchell gets more looks and it was seemingly kind

1707
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: of his breakout, but he had three catches. He had

1708
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: two to the point of that disastrous play where he

1709
01:34:54,800 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: dropped the football and then he had the costly penalty.

1710
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: But you can sit there and say we can't win

1711
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: if we have to be relying on this guy. Well,

1712
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: you presumably aren't gonna have to be overly reliant on

1713
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: him for much longer, because Alec Pierce eventually will be back.

1714
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: But when you look at the situation with Alec Pierce,

1715
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this with Chap about an hour ago,

1716
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 1: but I'll bring it back up the thirty for thirty

1717
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: that was done on bo Jackson. I've said this numerous times.

1718
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson is probably my all time favorite athlete because

1719
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: he was in his prime and was a marquee cultural

1720
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: phenomenal icon at the time that I was at my

1721
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: most impressionable, you know, high school years, that kind of thing,

1722
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: and Bo Nos and all of that. And when they

1723
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: did the thirty for thirty on Bo Jackson, I loved

1724
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: it for that reason. But the one thing where it

1725
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: just always drove me nuts where I thought they aired

1726
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: was the middle of the documentary about Bo Jackson, they

1727
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: talk about the big moneynet football game that he had

1728
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: in Seattle where he ran over Brian Bosworth and that

1729
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 1: was the defining moment of his career, no question, as

1730
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: a football player. But in that game also he had

1731
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: the I think it was eighty two yard touchdown run

1732
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: where he turned the corner and the entire Seahawk defense

1733
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 1: had the angle on him, including Kenny Easley, who was

1734
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 1: an all pro level player, and Bo Jackson smoked all

1735
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 1: of them and it wasn't close. And then he ran

1736
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: into the tunnel and Al Michaels, you know, and Dan

1737
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: Diardore from they're laughing and they're like, he just went

1738
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 1: past Takoma, you know, where the Raiders are going in

1739
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: to look for him. And I always thought that where

1740
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: that documentary aired is there is no play for a

1741
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 1: player in their career that more personifies who and what

1742
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: they were than that, because just when you realized what

1743
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: you had seen, he was gone and that was exactly

1744
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 1: his career. And yesterday, that play with Ady Mitchell was

1745
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 1: exactly that potential moment. Because it is entirely possible. I

1746
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's probable, but it's possible that we will

1747
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: look back even a year from now and say that

1748
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: play absolutely personified Ady Mitchell because it wrapped everything into one.

1749
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: When Ady Mitchell was selected and I said ten was

1750
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 1: a big number. Yesterday, I believe the penalty where Mitchell

1751
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: got called for the hold that negated Jonathan Taylor's big

1752
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: run was the tenth penalty of the day. They had

1753
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,759
Speaker 1: eleven total. There were ten men on the field, not eleven.

1754
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: When they needed that big stop and La scored that touchdown,

1755
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: they had the play holding on number ten. And yes,

1756
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 1: you could make the argument that Jonathan Taylor would not

1757
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: have had a touchdown on that run if not for

1758
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: the hold. I get it. But and Ady Mitchell, wait

1759
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: for it, had ten wide receivers taken before him. A

1760
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: year ago when he came into the draft. But here's

1761
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: a guy that was a two time national champion in

1762
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: college that played for two of the biggest programs in

1763
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: college football. That is great speed, good size, and ten

1764
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers went before him. And the reason that is

1765
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: we were told is when they drafted him, we were

1766
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: told repeatedly, no, listen, this guy has all the skills,

1767
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 1: He has all the talent in the world. He has

1768
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: everything you're looking for. He jumped out at us on tape.

1769
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: He had a wonderful combine, but there were question marks

1770
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 1: from other teams about him because of lack of And

1771
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying a bad guy. I'm not saying he's

1772
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: walking around the Colts Complex firing whipper snappers at people.

1773
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he puts whoope cushions on people

1774
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 1: seat when they sit down at lunch. And I'm not

1775
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 1: saying that he's not that he has to study extra

1776
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: hours for his driver's exam. I don't know anything about

1777
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,799
Speaker 1: him as in terms of his character or his intellect

1778
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 1: or any of those things.

1779
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 3: I just know this.

1780
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: I know that when he came into the league, the

1781
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: scouting report book on Ady Mitchell was that he was

1782
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: still immature and lacked focus, that he didn't have the

1783
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: attention to detail necessary to be an every down reliable

1784
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: receiver in the National Football League, but everything else was there.

1785
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,560
Speaker 1: And it's like I said earlier, it's like when you

1786
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: buy a car that looks as sleek, if not more sleek,

1787
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: than every other car on the lot, and it's got

1788
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: the and it's coming out and it's it's coming out

1789
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: of one of the best manufacturing plants. It's got the

1790
01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: name recognition, it's sleek as hell, it's got a good

1791
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: looking code of paint on it, and you're like, why

1792
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: in the world is this car fifteen percent less expensive

1793
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: than every other car in the lot. This is the

1794
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 1: deal of all deals. So you get it, and then

1795
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: twenty thousand miles into it, it sprays radiator fluid all

1796
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 1: over four sixty five and you're left calling triple A

1797
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, now, I guess I see why

1798
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: the car was available at that price. And in eighty

1799
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 1: Mitchell's case, that play personified everything we've been told about

1800
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: him because he makes that spin, he makes essentially a

1801
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 1: one hint of grab, spins his body away where I

1802
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: think even he was surprised that he got away, and

1803
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: then he takes off down the sideline and you're like, whoa,

1804
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: look at this speed, and he's gone, and you're like,

1805
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: there it is. There's the reason the Colts have been patient.

1806
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: There's the reason the Colts sold us on why they

1807
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: drafted him. There's the reason why, like Reggie Wayne, his

1808
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: position coach, we were told that once it breaks out

1809
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: of its shell, it's going to break out of a shell.

1810
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 1: And literally it is going to be like the caterpillar

1811
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: coming out of the cocoon that's now a gorgeous butterfly,

1812
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 1: and watch it float. And just as you're thinking that,

1813
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: every reason why we were hesitant flashes before our eyes.

1814
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the focus to finish and get to

1815
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 1: the finish line. He doesn't have the maturity to run

1816
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: all the way through the end zone before holding up

1817
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: the football, or whatever it was that he was decided.

1818
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody asked like, what were you

1819
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 1: trying to do? You're wide open, there's no one around you.

1820
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 1: You don't need to change hands, you don't need to

1821
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: pull the tony door set and move it over to

1822
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: your right hand, because you know the defense is coming

1823
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: from the left. Was he getting ready to And I'm

1824
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 1: wearing the shirt today. Somebody asked where.

1825
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 2: I got it.

1826
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 1: I honestly don't remember where I got it, but my

1827
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: USFL Memphis Showboats shirt. I didn't even wear it intentionally.

1828
01:41:55,360 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 1: But the Colts got beat for showboating yesterday. But and

1829
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to look right here in this camera where

1830
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: chiefs fan Steve said, I've been squinting too much and

1831
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 1: I need to wear my glasses. Maybe I could even

1832
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: put my glasses.

1833
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 3: On for it.

1834
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,839
Speaker 7: Why don't you smile for the camera so you're not squinting.

1835
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 3: There you go.

1836
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: You can hear those numbers spiking right now. By the way,

1837
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: I was in an event on Friday night and female

1838
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,480
Speaker 1: listeners thirty one and thirty two made their acquaintce.

1839
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 7: Okay, hold on, hold on, how'd we go from potentially

1840
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 7: twenty six to flubbing in? And I was like, no,

1841
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 7: I'm Adam, and we've got twenty eight to thirty one.

1842
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I think it's actually probably thirty. We're probably capping it

1843
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 1: at thirty. So I have my glasses on now to

1844
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: say this to Ady Mitchell as I look at the camera,

1845
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: Adie mitchell Son, it's not your fault. It's not your fault.

1846
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 1: It was not your fault that you dropped that football

1847
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 1: prematurely and cost yourself your first career touchdown. It's not

1848
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: your fault that you dropped that football and cost the

1849
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: Colts seven points and on a critical play where Jonathan

1850
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: Taylor broke free and look like perhaps the Colts put

1851
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: it in the bag or at least put themselves in

1852
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: the driver's seat, and it was negated because of your

1853
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: holding penalty. It's not your fault. When we look back

1854
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 1: at the fact the Colts are three and one, and

1855
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: who would not take that They're three and one, They

1856
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: the football gods maybe balanced things out a little bit.

1857
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: In the words of mister Hand, they had the unique

1858
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 1: occasion to square the account because what are you people

1859
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 1: on dope? Because the Denver Broncos, we forget, had their

1860
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: moment where they were on dope and they had a

1861
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: dopey leverage penalty that gave the Colts another chance for

1862
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: Spencer Schrader to win that game. And they should have been.

1863
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: They should have been. In fact, Al Michael's still incredulous

1864
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 1: over what that is. What if they they should have

1865
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: been coming into yesterday two and one we get it,

1866
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: but they went in against a really good Rams team

1867
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: and you have to be encouraged by the fact that

1868
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: they should have won that game, But would it could have?

1869
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: Should I get it right? If Ibsen butts were candy

1870
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas, Ady Mitchell.

1871
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: It's not your fault that yesterday lapse was the fault

1872
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: of around you, some sort of a weird vibe. I'm

1873
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: not saying locker room wide, but in a culture that

1874
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,759
Speaker 1: has enabled you to that point because your star running

1875
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: back teammate, an all Pro level player, one of the

1876
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 1: best at his position in the National Football League, did

1877
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: the exact same thing a year ago that cost your

1878
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: team possibly a postseason birth. And yet one would think

1879
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: that that would mean that the management level and the

1880
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 1: coaching level would have absolutely had every one of you

1881
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: guys every single day going over on on the repeated

1882
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: regular basis where any franchise in the NFL was capable

1883
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: of that kind of a mistake. Again, but there's no

1884
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: way in God's green earth that's gonna happen for the

1885
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. And yet it appears as though that was

1886
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: not the case. That was not and yes I know

1887
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: you said that, Shane Steiken's mentioned it, but that apparently

1888
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: was not preached enough. And it's not your fault, Adi Mitchell,

1889
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: because when the Colts drafted you and other teams and

1890
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: other people were saying, there's question marks here, there's red flags.

1891
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: We were told no red flags, just a caution one,

1892
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: just a yellow flag meaning proceed with caution. But it's

1893
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 1: all gonna work out. It's gonna be fine. Just be patient.

1894
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna work out. And maybe it still does. He

1895
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: did show flash yesterday. But what we saw yesterday, at

1896
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 1: least in the case of this particular player, was zero

1897
01:45:54,560 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 1: accountability to this point, none, and in a franchise that

1898
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 1: to this point is having their season put back onto

1899
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: the right side of things by a quarterback who is

1900
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: replacing the one where there was really no accountability for

1901
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: him because Anthony Richardson took himself out of the game,

1902
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: and yes, he then got benched for it, and I

1903
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: credit Shane Stikeen there, but ultimately they handed the keys

1904
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: back to him and they basically have said all along, no, no, no,

1905
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: we still believe we still are going to be patient.

1906
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell knew going into that game yesterday, to this point,

1907
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: there has not been accountability for him, and I don't

1908
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 1: think they should release him. There are people that say

1909
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: that they got to cut Adie Mitchell. I'm not saying that,

1910
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,839
Speaker 1: but I think the thing that was the most brilliant

1911
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 1: is when I asked people to send me their four

1912
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 1: words to describe what the cold season looks like so far,

1913
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: the most common answer was better than I expected, get it.

1914
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,799
Speaker 1: But the one that I thought was the most brilliant

1915
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: one ad got ap paid. And that's probably true because

1916
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is in a contract year and now boom,

1917
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 1: we see more than ever how important he's going to be,

1918
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: because we how much longer can we wait? We show

1919
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: we saw yesterday the physical gift is there. But now

1920
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 1: you wonder how ad Mitchell responds from that, because not

1921
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: once but twice, and he looked like a guy that

1922
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: was a deer in the headlights. After that, he made

1923
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: a big play for them on that final drive. But

1924
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: you do wonder what that's going to do for him,

1925
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: and what that's going to do and their belief and

1926
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: I know they can say that they still believe in him,

1927
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 1: but that was a pretty big, pretty big blunder. Two

1928
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 1: of them, but you still have to be in the

1929
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:53,600
Speaker 1: big in the big picture. In the big picture, you

1930
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 1: have to be encouraged because they're three and one. They

1931
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 1: went into a game in Los Angeles against what I

1932
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: think most of us believe is a really good team,

1933
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: and if you had to break it down into qure tiles,

1934
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: what core tile are the La.

1935
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,879
Speaker 7: Rams, I would put them in the upper quartile.

1936
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I think most people think they are one

1937
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the league.

1938
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1939
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were my NFC Super Bowl pick fair going

1940
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:24,720
Speaker 7: into the season.

1941
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 1: And for the Colts and the Colts, the Rams didn't

1942
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 1: win that game. The Colts lost it, and so yeah,

1943
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: you can look at that and go, man, what could have?

1944
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: Should have? But then you look at the schedule and

1945
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: it's pretty favorable. Where it's not. It doesn't feel like

1946
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 1: now now that we are a quarter of the way

1947
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: into the season, for I mean, I know it's seventeen,

1948
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 1: not sixteen, but essentially a quarter of the way. There

1949
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: were in turn one of the season, and it's a

1950
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: long year and a lot could happen, but the schedule

1951
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: looks far less arduous than it did at the beginning

1952
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 1: of the year. Now it's not as now you look

1953
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: at it and you're looking for places where you would

1954
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: not expect them to win. I mean, going in and

1955
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 1: playing the Chargers in LA is going to be tough,

1956
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 1: going to Arrowhead is going to be tough, and maybe

1957
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's gonna be tough. But outside of that, every other

1958
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: game you kind of expect them to win. At this

1959
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 1: point long year, I realize what team is it right now, Eddie?

1960
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: That we are four games in, a couple of them

1961
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 1: still to be played tonight, but we do this at

1962
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Give me the team that

1963
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: deep down you're like, are they good?

1964
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:37,440
Speaker 7: Jacksonville?

1965
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: Okay? Fair tied with the Colts right now? Right three

1966
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 1: and one?

1967
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 7: They should they could should be four. And though their

1968
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 7: only loss was that game where Joe Burrow gets hurting,

1969
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 7: Jake Brannon comes in and wins. That's their only loss.

1970
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 7: They won against the forty nine ers yesterday.

1971
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: I'll give you one, Seattle at three and one.

1972
01:49:58,720 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's another one.

1973
01:49:59,600 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Are they good?

1974
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1975
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 1: Are they good? You know what I mean? Okay? Now

1976
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 1: how about this Chicago?

1977
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 3: They good?

1978
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 1: Chicago? Yesterday? Man, I mean they Chicago showed me a

1979
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: little something yesterday because I don't think the Raiders are

1980
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 1: very good, but the Bears were pretty that they showed

1981
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 1: a lot of resolve in that game. Now we know

1982
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: that New Orleans is terrible, We know that Carolina is dreadful,

1983
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: we know that Tennessee is terrible. But give me the

1984
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 1: two teams that you're like, are they not very good?

1985
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 1: Are they in trouble? Well, there's a big one. Baltimore

1986
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, and now Lamar Jackson's got a

1987
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 1: hamstring injury, So you wonder what the future is there?

1988
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 1: Not the future, but you know what I mean, what

1989
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: the what the immediacy is going to be there? It

1990
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: is Washington. Washington's hard to say because Daniels is hurt,

1991
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 1: but they're two and two, right. I thought green Bay

1992
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: looked really good last night despite losing that game, because

1993
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 1: Jordan Love showed me a little something. Their clock management

1994
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: late was terrible.

1995
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know, depending on how tonight goes Denver. Yeah,

1996
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 7: I mean Denver, they play a Cincinnati team that could

1997
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 7: be out for blood tonight with how poorly they played

1998
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,560
Speaker 7: against Minnesota. It's in Denver, right, I know, That's what

1999
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 7: I'm saying. If you lose at home to Jake Browning

2000
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 7: and the Bengals on Monday Night Football. You're now one

2001
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 7: in three legs. By the way, what's the other game tonight?

2002
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Do you really want to know? Yes, this is the

2003
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 1: game I'm telling you now Here's here's the unfortunate thing.

2004
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 1: The unfortunate thing is that right now, somewhere in the

2005
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: United States there's a maximum security penitentiary where all the

2006
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: guys just found out that because nobody had any sort

2007
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 1: of a disciplinary issue this week, they're getting to reward,

2008
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 1: they're getting rewarded, and they're all allowed to watch Monday

2009
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: Night Football. And then they find out that it's this

2010
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins. Good I mean, first off, just

2011
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: the the the nature of the two ugly like the

2012
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: green uniforms oh and six between the two of them.

2013
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 7: Right, It's very unfortunate this game is not in New

2014
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 7: York because we could have an Antonio Brown repeat situation

2015
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 7: with Tyreek Hill. That's always up for possibility, no question,

2016
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 7: you know, taking your shirt off, taking the pads off,

2017
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 7: just run across.

2018
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 1: The field deuces The game is in Miami though, right, Ah, yes,

2019
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 1: it's it's in Miami.

2020
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 9: Yeap.

2021
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: Justin Field is back for the Jets. I did know

2022
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 1: that coming off concussion protocol, right, yes, yes, yes, yes?

2023
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Where is Zach Wilson now, by the way, he is

2024
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 1: the backup in Miami? Is he really? Yes?

2025
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 3: He is?

2026
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: What a storyline there? Let's go, although it's at home,

2027
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's returning home, even though two

2028
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: is obviously playing. But nonetheless, the point being, when you

2029
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: look at the AFC, you've got to be happy about

2030
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 1: the Colts because they're three and one.

2031
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 7: All three wins against AFC teams too.

2032
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: That's also big, the fact that their loss is to

2033
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 1: an NFC team, right, that is it's it stings a

2034
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: little less, and you know, it's weird. How weird is

2035
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: it to think that they could be in a situation

2036
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: in late November where they're going into Kansas City and

2037
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: those two are deadlocked, like let's say in a wild

2038
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 1: card chase. Ye, don't I think in the Colt's case,

2039
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 1: they're going to be leading the division? But because I

2040
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: think they're going to beat Jacksonville. But to tell you

2041
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 1: how much of a week to week leak it is?

2042
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 1: So the Chargers through three weeks looked like the best

2043
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: team in the NFL.

2044
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 7: They go on the road. They lose to Jackson Dart

2045
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 7: and the Giants in their first loss. Kansas City bounces

2046
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 7: back with a dominant win over you know, Baltimore at home,

2047
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, it's all, oh, yep, it's

2048
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 7: still the Chiefs Division. Like, come on, people, like, it's

2049
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 7: just one bad game for the Chargers.

2050
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 1: How about, by the way, how about the New York

2051
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 1: Giants getting a win.

2052
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 7: They lost Joe Alton that game. That's a Unfortunately for them,

2053
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,640
Speaker 7: it was only a high ankle sprand there there was

2054
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 7: not a broken bone or anything, so he could be

2055
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 7: sidelined a couple of weeks. But at least it's not

2056
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 7: another injured reserve situation because they're already missing their starting

2057
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 7: left and Rashaun Slater he had that season ending injury

2058
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 7: in camps and they moved Joelt from right tackle to

2059
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 7: left tackle. He goes down yesterday.

2060
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart look pretty good, right, It looked okay, got

2061
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: a little he can run a little bit.

2062
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 7: You know, hopefully we can get Ralph Refundcuse, I'm fascinated

2063
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 7: by this, Jake. So Malice Nibbers shows down yesterday with

2064
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 7: a torn ac out for the year, right, hang at

2065
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 7: Odell Beckham Junior had some strong words about playing on

2066
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 7: grass personally, no matter where you're at, instead of turf,

2067
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 7: because I mean, it's been documented over time and time

2068
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 7: again how bad the turf is they're at New York,

2069
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 7: and it should not Injuries like that shouldn't happen. When

2070
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 7: you're just going up to jump up and go up

2071
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 7: in the air and you're launching yourself off the ground

2072
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 7: and that's how you tear your seal like that, that

2073
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 7: should not happen.

2074
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 1: The It's amazing to think of the old Hoosier Doom

2075
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 1: days when literally those guys were playing on concrete within

2076
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: half an inch of foam and then astro turf on

2077
01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 1: top of it. I mean, the number of like just

2078
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: rug burns alone you would get would be awful. Aaron

2079
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 1: Ne Smith. By the way, did you say he's about

2080
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: to call in double A Yeah, aaron Nesmith. It is

2081
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: Pacers Media Day aaron NEI Smith. Apparently Eddie just got

2082
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: word is going to call us and he's going to

2083
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 1: do so in just about five minutes, so we will

2084
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: talk to the pacers swinging forward. He has the best shoes,

2085
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: by the way, on the roster, I know that Halliburton

2086
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 1: has those pumas, but I love the blue and yellow

2087
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 1: new balance of aaron Ne Smith. But he joins us next,

2088
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about over the course of today.

2089
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 1: We'll get back into the Colts and Fever conversation in

2090
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 1: a minute. But it is also and it is hard

2091
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 1: to believe this. It is Pacers Media Day, meaning that

2092
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 1: we are on the cusp of another Pacer season and

2093
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: a guy that is entering his fourth year in Indiana

2094
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: he just hit another three point shot against the New

2095
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 1: York Knicks. Aaron NEI Smith joins us on the program, aeron,

2096
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: how are you.

2097
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm doing good. How you guys joined?

2098
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 1: We are well? Thank you listen. It is and this

2099
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 1: is a good thing.

2100
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 3: You know.

2101
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 1: It's a good thing to have the off season be

2102
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 1: so short because it means that your regular season went

2103
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 1: so long. But for you, I am curious from a

2104
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 1: player's standpoint, with the way everything went last year, did

2105
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: and as deep as you guys got, did it cause

2106
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 1: for acceleration of let's get going? Or is the body

2107
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 1: still needing more time?

2108
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 2: No?

2109
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 3: Actually, I feel like I took the proper amount of

2110
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 3: time off like normally I take like the amount of

2111
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 3: normal time I take off on the summer, I just

2112
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 3: added a week to it, just since we played so

2113
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 3: far into the season. And then when I started hooping

2114
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 3: again and working out again, I just scramped it up

2115
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 3: a little bit quicker than normal.

2116
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: So it all worked out, you know, it was it

2117
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: was such a magical run and you know everything that

2118
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 1: went with it, and then obviously the way it ended

2119
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 1: with you know, just and that Game seven will replay

2120
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 1: that in our heads for a long time and wondering

2121
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 1: of the what ifs. But from a player's standpoint, I'm

2122
01:56:56,360 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 1: curious what is the mindset now of standing the excitement

2123
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: that comes with that, but also the reality of what

2124
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: the year is ahead, and then waiting of course to

2125
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: have kind of everything back in the arsenal.

2126
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 3: Uh, you got to turn the page. You know, it's

2127
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 3: a brand new season. You know there's going to be

2128
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 3: a new champion crown at the end of this year,

2129
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 3: and you know you gotta start working from that today.

2130
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 3: It all starts tomorrow and training camp and you know

2131
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 3: you can just all you could take is really the

2132
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 3: lessons you learned from last season, you know, the trials

2133
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 3: and tribulations, to ups and downs and try and have

2134
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 3: a better start this year and you know, get the

2135
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Speaker 3: ground running.

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Speaker 1: You know, with the you know, obviously with Tyree's out

2137
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 1: for the year and Miles now in Milwaukee, does does

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01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 1: your role change in terms of obviously we know what

2139
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 1: your position is and you know the starting situation, but

2140
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: in terms of what you need to bring. Do you

2141
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 1: have to diversify your game at all?

2142
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's got to take a little step up. Everyone's

2143
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 3: gonna have to do a little bit more. But it's

2144
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 3: going to be done by committee. You know, five people

2145
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 3: on the court at one time, So everybody's gonna have

2146
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 3: to take a little step up in their production and

2147
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 3: what's asking them. But you know, we're all getting done.

2148
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 1: Who what teammate is the one that most intrigues you

2149
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: in terms of what you might see from them this year?

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01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 3: I believe. I think Jerris Jaris Walker has a real

2151
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 3: chance to take a leap this year. And you know,

2152
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 3: he has all the tools and I talked to him

2153
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 3: about you know, what he did this summer and how

2154
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 3: much he worked and how much he prepared for this season.

2155
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 3: I think he's ready for the challenge. As ahead of him.

2156
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Nesmith is our guest as the pacers resume and

2157
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 1: we'll get underway, get everything going here before we know it.

2158
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: And with that, Aaron, when you talk about Jaris Walker,

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01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: you know your situation being a guy that was in Boston,

2160
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: got you know, buried a little bit there, and then

2161
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:50,800
Speaker 1: as soon as you got your chance here you really

2162
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 1: did flourish. What sort of things can you tell young

2163
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 1: players about that and about seizing that opportunity? And are

2164
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: you the type that would go to them and say, hey,

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I went through and what

2166
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: worked for me.

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01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I told him, Man, when he first

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01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 3: got here, I told him he was in a similar situation.

2169
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 3: I was in Boston, just guys in front of him,

2170
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 3: not a big opportunity to play. But always stay ready,

2171
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 3: be ready, because you never know when your name is

2172
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 3: going to be called. And whenever you get your opportunity.

2173
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 3: You know, people say, look is when preparation meets opportunity,

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01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 3: And I believe he's prepared for it properly and he's

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01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 3: going to be ready.

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01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 1: By the way, do you believe in the zone, like

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Speaker 1: when people say that athletes get in the zone and

2178
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you remember Jordan said, like the

2179
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 1: rim becomes like a big old bucket, right, do you believe.

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 3: In the zone? Oh? Yeah, that's real called it? Yeah,

2181
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 3: like the flow state.

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01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so the flow state is what it's known as. Now, okay, Now,

2183
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 1: the reason I ask and I think that with everything

2184
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 1: that took place in all of the excitement of the

2185
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 1: miraculous finishes that you guys had and getting to the

2186
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 1: finals and all of that, historically, I worry that perhaps

2187
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: we're going to forget about being in the flow state

2188
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: like you were against New York. Were you in that

2189
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 1: zone in that game?

2190
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, it's nothing like that. That's that's I always say.

2191
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 3: You know, all the work you put in the early mornings,

2192
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 3: every left, every extra shot you take after practice, before practice,

2193
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 3: it's for those moments, like you do all of that

2194
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 3: so that when you do enter that state, it's just

2195
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 3: all rhythm. You lead on the work that you put in,

2196
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 3: and it just literally feels like you're floating. You're just vibing.

2197
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Speaker 1: Well, you were, I know, question about it, right, and

2198
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Speaker 1: you know do you You're an interesting one to me

2199
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 1: erin because your three point shot it almost seems like

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02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 1: sometimes you're more in that flow state, if you will

2201
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 1: when it's accelerated and that you know, wide receivers often

2202
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 1: say in football that the hardest pass to catch is

2203
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 1: the one where they're wide open. Is the same thing

2204
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: true as an outside shooter? Does it? Is it more

2205
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: a rhythm saying if you're wide open and you've got

2206
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 1: time to square up, does it almost then become more

2207
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 1: of a challenge.

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02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 3: A little bit because you have more time to think

2209
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Speaker 3: you're not you know, you're not in the rhythm of

2210
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 3: your jump shot. And I think, you know, all my life,

2211
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 3: I've always been such a great shooter that.

2212
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 15: Nobody leaves me open and so more times and I'm

2213
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,400
Speaker 15: more used to having somebody sprint at meat full speed

2214
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,080
Speaker 15: trying to keep me from shooting the ball post just

2215
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 15: letting me shoot it, so I see it more.

2216
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: By the way, were you surprised by the Miles Turner decision?

2217
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:35,440
Speaker 6: I was.

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02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Did you guys speak to him? I mean, is he

2219
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, how does that work in professional sports? Your teammates?

2220
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:45,400
Speaker 1: But I assume you're also friends, So how does that

2221
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 1: work once that all goes down?

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02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he sent, you know, to mention to the group

2223
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 3: chat about his decision and why he made it, and

2224
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm also I'm just the type of

2225
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 3: guy that you know, I wish't nothing but the best

2226
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 3: he did he thought was right for him and his family.

2227
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:06,920
Speaker 3: And we'll see him when he played Milwaukee. You know,

2228
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 3: I'll give him a big hug at half court. But

2229
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 3: you know, once the game starts, you know, I gotta

2230
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:12,360
Speaker 3: win the game.

2231
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: Did he say what the reason was?

2232
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 3: Ah, that's him, that's for him, that's for him to speak.

2233
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,200
Speaker 1: All. See, I was in the flow state there. I

2234
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: had to ask, right right, I gotta hey, what did

2235
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 1: you do in the off season? Because for fans, you know,

2236
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 1: I think we all basked in the glory of what

2237
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 1: the run was, but then there was also the what

2238
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 1: could have been right? But for you guys, as players,

2239
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 1: what did you do to kind of get away, clear

2240
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:44,880
Speaker 1: your head, reset the table in.

2241
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Speaker 3: The off season, you know, I think I spend proper

2242
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 3: amount of time reflecting on, you know, what we just

2243
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 3: did and what just happens. And I tried to turn

2244
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 3: the page as quickly as possible. At the same time,

2245
02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 3: so I tried to have fun and you know, give

2246
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 3: my mind off the loss, and but at the same

2247
02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:07,200
Speaker 3: time appreciate it and understand what we did was special

2248
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 3: for our city, you know, for each of us as

2249
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 3: an individual. We just accomplished so many different things this year.

2250
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Speaker 3: And you know, I've had so many people come up

2251
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 3: to me and just say, you've made me an NBA

2252
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 3: fan again. And so it's a little things like that

2253
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 3: that kind of, you know, make me feel really good

2254
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 3: about how far we made it.

2255
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, when they had your the image of you

2256
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 1: on the Arts garden down here downtown with the huge

2257
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 1: thing that said finals and like, you know, a four

2258
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: story high photo of yourself, I would have like taken

2259
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:38,720
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pictures of that if it were me.

2260
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 3: Did you do that? No, I'm sure my family did,

2261
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 3: though I kept I tried to bookmark as many things

2262
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 3: as I can, just because I know later in life

2263
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm obviously going to want to look back at them.

2264
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 3: But I let my family do all the picture take it.

2265
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 1: Have you gotten a chance to enjoy or watch the

2266
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:57,120
Speaker 1: Fever run?

2267
02:03:58,600 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 5: I have.

2268
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 3: I have. I haven't been able to make it to

2269
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 3: a game yet, but I have been keeping up.

2270
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 1: Do you guys feed off one another? You know, I

2271
02:04:06,640 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 1: realize your seasons are different, obviously, but and your facilities

2272
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: will soon be completely different. But do you get a

2273
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 1: chance to kind of interact with one another or you know,

2274
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 1: at different events things representing the franchise.

2275
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 3: Times sometimes not too much, just because we said our

2276
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 3: teams are you know, at different times, and a lot

2277
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 3: of times during our season they're playing overseas or they're

2278
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 3: playing in the different leagues and such, so they're not

2279
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 3: always around. But there's always, like usually this period right here,

2280
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 3: there's always a gap and where we'll do events together,

2281
02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 3: we'll see each other and they always come to our games.

2282
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:41,920
Speaker 3: You know, we go to their games, so we do.

2283
02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 3: We do mix it up a good bit.

2284
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 1: And lastly, you're an interesting one because you grew up

2285
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:49,320
Speaker 1: in South Carolina. Aaron Ne Smith our guest. When you

2286
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:51,440
Speaker 1: were a kid growing up, did you have an NFL team?

2287
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 1: Would it have been the Atlanta Falcons or.

2288
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 3: Carolina Unfortunately, as of right now it's the Carolina Fnthers.

2289
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:01,760
Speaker 3: I'll never pluted up. But yeah, it's real dark.

2290
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:05,040
Speaker 1: For us, right, I would say yes, in fact, that

2291
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 1: would be the case.

2292
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 7: Statty and you guys obviously we've talked about have lost

2293
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 7: Miles Turner. No, Tyre's Halliburton for you guys this year

2294
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 7: who has to step up in the leadership role, because

2295
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 7: those are those were two big voices for you guys

2296
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 7: throughout the course the last season.

2297
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we're gonna have to do it by committee,

2298
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 3: and I think everybody in here understands what's going to

2299
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 3: be asked to them. Everybody in here understands that we're

2300
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 3: everybody's got to do a little bit more. And I

2301
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:32,160
Speaker 3: think everybody as much as like we as far as

2302
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 3: it made it and we came up short. I think

2303
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 3: the culmination of Tyres being out and Miles leaving, everybody

2304
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 3: had proper motivation this summer, eat to work and to

2305
02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 3: get better. And I think we have a pretty special

2306
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 3: group of guys to where we use different things. It's

2307
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 3: fuel and motivation, and I think those those the combination

2308
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 3: of both of those happening so close to each other,

2309
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 3: like we're able to turn the page and the loss

2310
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 3: really quickly and get to work.

2311
02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 1: Will it be an adjustment in terms of stylist because

2312
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's been stated obviously that you

2313
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 1: guys will not be playing as fast now at least

2314
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 1: for this season, and maybe you do go a little

2315
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: bit more half court set or ISO set. Will that

2316
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:13,400
Speaker 1: be an adjustment.

2317
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 3: I think. I mean, we're gonna play the same way

2318
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:18,840
Speaker 3: we've been playing. We're you're gonna have to continue to

2319
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,600
Speaker 3: do that as a team, and you know, one man

2320
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 3: are our main guys out, but we've been doing it

2321
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,960
Speaker 3: for so long that we we can't. We don't know

2322
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 3: any other way to play except for fast picking up

2323
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 3: full court and you know, being a pest. So we're

2324
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 3: gonna do it again.

2325
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 1: It is kind of weird though, Like for me, it

2326
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 1: just aaron like I was. It was so much fun.

2327
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's not going to be this year,

2328
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 1: and I think that the Pacers are going to be

2329
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 1: probably better than people are giving credit, right But but

2330
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 1: at the same time, I have to keep reminding myself

2331
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:52,320
Speaker 1: that the roster will look different for the interim than

2332
02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:54,920
Speaker 1: it did a year ago. You are one of those

2333
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:57,839
Speaker 1: players on that roster, do you have to also remind

2334
02:06:57,920 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 1: yourself of that.

2335
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 3: I've kind of I mean, I've had to remind myself

2336
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 3: it's going to look a little differently, you know, to

2337
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 3: start the season. And I think we, like especially in

2338
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 3: training camp, like we're gonna have to relearn a couple

2339
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 3: of things and recommit to a couple of things. And

2340
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:19,120
Speaker 3: I think once we get past that hurdle, it'll be

2341
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 3: easy flowing again. But there will be a learning curve obviously,

2342
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:24,880
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be ups and downs because you know,

2343
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:27,560
Speaker 3: we're so used to playing a certain way and with

2344
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 3: Tyry's being down, like, we're gonna have to learn different things.

2345
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 3: So you know, all that will come with time and repetition.

2346
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, so i'd lied, but I said lastly last time.

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Speaker 1: But we talked to you. The last time I talked

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Speaker 1: to you, you had mentioned that the most recent book

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Speaker 1: you had finished was Unbroken, which is a fabulous, fabulous

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Speaker 1: book about Louise Emperini. I'm curious the last book now

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Speaker 1: that you read.

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Speaker 3: I've actually read. I actually read a couple of books,

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Speaker 3: and I read Man, it's like a it's it took

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Speaker 3: an overthinking book. But it was called something like the

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Speaker 3: Keito over Thing. I can't remember it was called. I

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Speaker 3: read that last year. And then I read a fancy

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Speaker 3: book called Probably. I don't know why I'm blanking on it.

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Speaker 3: It's like a three I read three books. I read

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Speaker 3: four books. I read this overthinking book. I read one

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Speaker 3: hundred Laws of power and then I read this series.

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth. By the way, I'm guilty of

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Speaker 1: one hundred ways to overthink, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's that sounds like that sounds

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Speaker 1: like my biography, you know that, right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Aaron Jake ridicules me from time to time on this show.

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Speaker 7: And one of the reasons why I'm not a big traveler.

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Speaker 7: I've never traveled outside of the United States. And I

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Speaker 7: know you like to go to Japan. Did you go

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Speaker 7: to Japan during the off season? And if you didn't,

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Speaker 7: did you go somewhere else?

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Speaker 3: I went to Costa Rica. The book was called Fourth Wing, Fourth.

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Speaker 1: Wing, Fourth Wing?

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Speaker 3: Okay, hang on, yeah, but no, I went to Costa

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Speaker 3: Rica this summer by I went golfing out there.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've asked you this, perhaps before you grew up

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Speaker 1: in South Carolina, Carolina or Clemson neither, Well, I guess Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt having a good day actually, but listen, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Clemson football fan, so I can I can relate to

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Speaker 1: your Carolina panther misery.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah, I was watching uh. I was

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Speaker 3: watching the Syracuse game with my guy the other week

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Speaker 3: and he was he was down bed.

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Speaker 8: Was not good.

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Speaker 1: Trust they were guilty of overthinking is exactly what happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right right, they were not in the flow state. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you right now, that's right. D're right, Aaron Listen.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. As always, we look forward to

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Speaker 1: the season. I think it's going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun and it's always fun to watch you man.

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Speaker 1: We would love to have you back on the program anytime,

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Speaker 1: but we certainly wish you the best in getting things underway.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking aaron Ne Smith? Getting said for year

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Speaker 1: number four with the Pacers. We'll come back more on

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Speaker 1: what took place yesterday at so Far Stadium. It's querying

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Speaker 1: company here rolling along on a Monday on the fan.

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Speaker 1: You know what I spared you, Eddie over the course

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Speaker 1: of today, My sure, my sanctimonious old man rant about

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Speaker 1: how I think the behavior at golf tournaments has jumped

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Speaker 1: the shark, and I think it's spilled over a little

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Speaker 1: bit with the Ryder Cup stuff, because I think even

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Speaker 1: the most you know, relaxed or laid back a fan

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Speaker 1: is like, yeah, okay, this probably was a little too raucous.

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Speaker 1: I mean I get it.

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Speaker 7: It's I'm not aware where you're talking about, Jake, no fence.

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Speaker 7: I didn't watch a single second of the Ryder Cup.

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Speaker 1: The I'm not a golf guy, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: I think that fans because you know, golf has its

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Speaker 1: etiquette and its rules, and so therefore people can own

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Speaker 1: They only get so many opportunities to like kick back

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Speaker 1: and have fun at a tournament like the Waste Open

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Speaker 1: Manager or the Waste Management Open. But it was pretty

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Speaker 1: ugly over the course of the Ryder Cup. Not as

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Speaker 1: ugly as the Adie Mitchell, but it was pretty ugly.

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Speaker 1: JMV is here those.

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Speaker 5: Guys just I mean, seriously, there's just such horses asses.

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Speaker 5: They're just a bunch of horses asses out there. That's

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Speaker 5: how they act. That's how they act.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 5: For the Europeans, I love the way Europeans celebrate. It's

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Speaker 5: almost tough not to root for them.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I mean, like it just

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Speaker 1: after a while, it gets a little much, does it not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty stupid, Hey it does. That's just kind

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Speaker 5: of where we are, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess by the way it is, is it the crossovers

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Speaker 1: that we call this to hand off the cross Cross

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Speaker 1: talk what do we the cross.

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Speaker 5: E PMD that had the song the Crossover back and right, Yes,

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Speaker 5: brought you by Love Hitting in the.

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Speaker 1: Air Love Dash HVAC dot com is the website three

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Speaker 1: one seven three five three twenty one forty one the

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Speaker 1: telephone number. John, You obviously got a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about today, right, You spend three hours ripping on ad

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Speaker 1: Mitchell pretty much, although you know the like Daniel Jones said,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Daniel Jones said, you know,

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Speaker 1: a game isn't made by one play, and I'm like, right,

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Speaker 1: which is why he needed a second one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah exactly. I mean he put it to rest.

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Speaker 5: It was minus fourteen for Eddie Mitchell, and that's that's

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Speaker 5: gonna get you sunk.

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Speaker 1: I think is lou An Arumo.

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Speaker 5: Is they allowed to bring in anybody that doesn't like

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Speaker 5: have connections with him?

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Speaker 1: Correct?

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Speaker 5: I mean, anybody off the couch can just go play

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Speaker 5: as long as they somebody said that, Yes, Stefan Gilmore,

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Speaker 5: he's he's out there.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's part of the reason why you got

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Speaker 7: fired in Cincinnati was the fact that you didn't play

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Speaker 7: any young guys. So is none of their young draft

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Speaker 7: picks developed kind of doing the same thing here, Like

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Speaker 7: I just I will say this, I think that we

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Speaker 7: have been there.

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Speaker 5: And done that with Howard. So I don't know what

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Speaker 5: more you have to know or understand here. What are

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Speaker 5: we trying to do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Howard, you know obviously that's who you line up,

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Speaker 1: and the entire Jar just clinging to life until Jalen

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Speaker 1: Jones and then Kenny Moore and the rest of them were.

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Speaker 3: Back, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of where they are.

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Speaker 5: I will say this, Is there any party that wants

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Speaker 5: to say, hey, they're three and one? Can everybody shut up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's I mean that was because they really should

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Speaker 1: be two and two. And John, here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: They the football gods kind of balanced it out right,

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Speaker 1: because they probably should have lost a different and they

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Speaker 1: should have won yesterday. But I think in the grand

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Speaker 1: scheme of things, you have to be fairly optimistic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're three and one. They played a pretty good team.

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Speaker 5: They have a CRAF schedule for the most part, correct.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. You look at their schedule.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about that earlier. They still got to

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Speaker 1: go to LA and play the Chargers and then you've

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Speaker 1: got the You know, obviously the Chiefs are going to

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Speaker 1: be a tough game, right and then do they have

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Speaker 1: the race? They don't play the rate.

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Speaker 5: Well, Houston's got a first play schedule and they suck.

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Speaker 5: If you watched that game yesterday, it was an absolute

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Speaker 5: brutality against Tennessee. The only team you need to watch

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Speaker 5: out for is Jacksonville. If you can't beat Jacksonville, what

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Speaker 5: do you deserve?

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Speaker 1: So that, to me is is it? But I'm listening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was called and in the whole a d

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Speaker 5: Mitchell thing after Jonathan Taylor a year ago. See, there's

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Speaker 5: no way. People say I want to cut him, he

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Speaker 5: needs to be cut, send him packing.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to do that.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's a second rounder. Jonathan Taylor did it a

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Speaker 5: year ago, and I know he's drastically different. But Jonathan

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Speaker 5: Taylor did it in a situation in which cost them

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Speaker 5: the postseason with Denver. So yeah, it stinks, but I

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Speaker 5: will say this, they win that game also if Alec

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Speaker 5: Pierce is healthy. Because Alex Pierce goes up and gets

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Speaker 5: a couple of those passes from Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Right, he holds onto it.

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Speaker 5: He holds onto it. Until they right exactly, Buddy.

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Speaker 1: All right, John's up next. He will be with you

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Speaker 1: until six o'clock tonight, I think again. Mike Chappell and

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Speaker 1: Aaron NEI Smith for joining us. We will be back

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Speaker 1: with you at noon tomorrow. Thanks for listening to Quarry Company.