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Speaker 2: There's so much about this Mark Sanchez story that fascinates

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Speaker 2: me beyond belief. Remember, out like every weekend, our promo

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Speaker 1: We have no idea we're going to talk about Monday.

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Speaker 2: We're counting on the politicians to do something stupid. Well,

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Speaker 2: this time it wasn't a politician. It's a sports star.

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Speaker 2: And I have questions, I have thoughts, But the most

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Speaker 2: interesting thing to me, casey, and then I will let

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Speaker 2: you come swooping in with whatever hot take you have

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Speaker 2: on this is the amount of people. Okay, First of all,

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Speaker 2: like I'll do this. Sometimes I'll post something and go, oh,

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Speaker 2: I've misspelled that. I'm not letting the grammar police people

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Speaker 2: get me, pull it down, make the change, put it

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Speaker 2: back up. But I'm not deleting the thought. It's not

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Speaker 2: like I'm embarrassed or whatever. So to the Governor and

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Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor, stop deleting tweets. You look like idiots, and

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Speaker 2: Worst case, leave it up, retweet it, explain it whatever.

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Speaker 2: But you look like gutless cowards when you become delete

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Speaker 1: All right, But.

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Speaker 2: The most fascinating thing about the whole weekend for me

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Speaker 2: that they were taking some sort of victory lap that

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Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez allegedly was the aggressor rather than the person

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Speaker 1: And it's like, what a weird, bizarre flex that.

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Speaker 2: This is some sort of vindication to you in your

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Speaker 2: mental gymnastic mind that somehow this first because it was

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Speaker 2: Mark Santez allegedly rather than the other guy, that Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: that will become some sort of safe place to live.

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Speaker 3: So in regards to Governor Brown's tweet, it was great

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Speaker 3: up until the very last line. He said, I've been

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Speaker 3: clear city leaders must do their jobs and hold criminals accountable.

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Speaker 3: Right on, when Indianapolis headlines national news for a lack

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Speaker 3: Right on, Hoosiers deserve better. Correct, Everything was great, and

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Speaker 3: then he said, praying for a full recovery from Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 3: It was just to jump the gun just a little

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Speaker 3: for the victim as well, and it would have been fine.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got Ryan Mehres coming out and he's talking,

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Speaker 1: Well, and you gave him a win by leading the tweet.

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Speaker 1: All you had.

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Speaker 2: What I had to do is retweet the thing and say, hey, Sanchez,

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Speaker 2: the aggressor Indianapolis is still super violent. This guy allegedly

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Speaker 2: another about violence in the city of Indianapol.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: When you woke up Saturday morning and you saw the

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Speaker 3: that's on par You weren't surprised by that at all.

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Speaker 2: No, And it's like the people who are flexing on

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Speaker 2: go CCCCC. Well, it's no different than when the judges

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Speaker 1: Was that before you? Okay, so this has been several

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: There were these judges who are in town for some

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Speaker 2: I just found that the most fascinating thing that there

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Speaker 2: the people, the WIBC, the conservative media guys are afraid

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, I used to come downtown all the time.

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Speaker 2: I can vividly remember ten years ago walking at three

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't do that today. Never.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I am out of here by ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: But I know what the city wants was. I know

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Speaker 2: it's a place that used to enjoy coming. It was

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Speaker 1: You'd never do that now.

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Speaker 2: So for the people are trying to do some victory

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Speaker 2: nothing's changed. This place is still a cesspool of awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I live downtown in Indianapolis, and I don't go

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Speaker 3: And there have been times where I wanted to run

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Speaker 3: Ryan Meres saying, if one deleted tweet finally gets Ryan

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Speaker 3: keeping Indianapolis safe, then I will start deleting more tweets.

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Speaker 3: He's saying that the deleted tweet got the attention of

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Speaker 3: Ryan Meres and if that's all, he'll do that more often.

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Speaker 2: Well, you look like a Braun looks like a total whimp.

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Speaker 2: And his little assistant, Micah, also did the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Who said same, Yeah, that's Micah's response after he deleted

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Speaker 2: can someone explain to me from the Lieutenant Governor's office? Anyone,

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Graham, any of you people send me you know

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Speaker 2: how to get ahold of me?

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Speaker 1: Rob at WIBC dot com.

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Speaker 2: Can any of you people or the new guy they've

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Speaker 2: why the Lieutenant governor refuses to comment on the IED audit?

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Speaker 2: Can someone from that office explain to me we are

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Speaker 2: on what day five to six? Why the Lieutenant governor

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Speaker 2: who literally ran I heard him give the speeches I

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Speaker 2: that proves exactly what he said.

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Speaker 3: And now he's quiet, This guy who can't.

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Speaker 2: Sprint to the nearest camera fast the one time he

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Speaker 1: Who is he afraid of?

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Speaker 3: Is he getting his marching orders from the governor right

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Speaker 2: At this point, he's clearly very afraid of doing anything

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Speaker 2: the Marion County Prosecutor's office is investigating their office allegedly

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about who the big winner was over

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Speaker 2: So what do we just want to, like, hyprob before

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Speaker 2: on this. So he has he being Mark Sanchez has

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yes? The New York Post is reporting that he was

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if he was going to do an act

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Speaker 2: it in the right city, because we don't take violence

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Speaker 2: How is that they're all missed a meaning? How is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like it should be more than that,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it because those pictures.

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Speaker 1: Were off Holy smokes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, feel feel awful for him. He apparently, it seems,

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Speaker 3: was just trying to do his job and didn't hear

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Speaker 3: Mark Sanchez at first because he didn't have his hearing

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Speaker 3: aids in. And why was Mark Sanchez in an alley? Well,

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Speaker 3: what's he doing back there?

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Speaker 2: These are things they're gonna come that are to come

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Speaker 2: very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of this stuff's gonna start to

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Speaker 1: come out because none of it makes any sense.

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Speaker 3: Look, when he was discharged from the hospital yesterday morning,

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Speaker 3: he was immediately taken to the Marion County Jail for

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Speaker 3: central book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, so it's I think Sanchez's court appearance is tomorrow, correct,

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Speaker 2: Like tomorrow morning?

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Speaker 1: Is his quarter prints? All right?

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Speaker 2: We got a bunch of others, So we'll get to

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Speaker 2: This was very odd behavior from this guy anyway, here's

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Speaker 2: No, we gotta we gotta tighten up some internal processes, Casey,

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Speaker 4: Dirty Day, Go Oh, Dirty Day, Go oh dirty go

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Speaker 2: Did you know that, according to the Republican Party bylaws,

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Speaker 3: You're not a good standing Hey, Kevi.

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Speaker 2: If you could cue this up here, I wanted to

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Speaker 5: Poor lot of beautiful man. Yes, poor lot of beautiful day.

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Speaker 5: Oh God, a beautiful everything.

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Speaker 2: Great news for all of us. As we've been telling

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Speaker 2: It's now official. Bo Bye, the son of Evan By

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Speaker 3: He is. We kind of had a feeling this was coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is fascinating on writing levels. One look

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Speaker 1: Nott pay for India hoppey.

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Speaker 1: The arch Manning. I told you that this word I

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Speaker 3: They'll find out. And that's the point there. Even if

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why every person should have a vested interest. Look,

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Speaker 2: Any person that can defeat Diego at any level, we

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Speaker 2: the servers. He will be able to open up and

442
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Speaker 2: show everybody how this cabal that currently runs the state

443
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Speaker 2: of Indiana how it operates. And you sign me up

444
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Speaker 2: for that casey every day of the week, okay.

445
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Speaker 3: So bo Bay said. The office has been used to

446
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: cut backdoor deals, our tax dollars, funding perks for politicians

447
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Speaker 3: and insiders. In the case of.

448
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Speaker 1: Diego a lot of travel.

449
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Speaker 3: He was the biggest spender of travel, as we discussed

450
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Speaker 3: that last week. So it's out a field so far.

451
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Speaker 3: Who knew the secretary of State was such a popular position.

452
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Speaker 3: You've got Dave Shelton who is running. You've got Diego

453
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Speaker 3: Morales who is running. You also have a Blithe Potter.

454
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Speaker 3: She is a woman from I believe northwest Indiana who

455
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Speaker 3: is running on the Democrat side. She is going to

456
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Speaker 3: challenge Diego Morales as well. You also have Jamie Rittenauer

457
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Speaker 3: who says that she is running. So a lot of

458
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Speaker 3: money will be spent to win this office, or in

459
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Speaker 3: some cases maybe not a lot of money because they

460
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Speaker 3: don't have it.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting about the Republican side, It's just a

462
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Speaker 2: glorified fundraising operation now, unless they've changed it here in

463
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Speaker 2: the past weeks or whatever, the Republican Party forces these

464
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Speaker 2: statewide candidates to pay a percentage of what the office pays,

465
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Speaker 2: and I think it's ten percent or it was ten percent.

466
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Speaker 2: That's how they keep the undesirables out of the out

467
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Speaker 2: of the delio. So if the office whatever secretary of

468
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Speaker 2: State pays now it's making up a number here they

469
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Speaker 2: get him huge raised. So I don't know what the

470
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Speaker 2: let's say it's one hundred ninety thousand dollars you've got

471
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Speaker 2: to come up with as a candidate, like nineteen grand

472
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Speaker 2: just to be able to run at the convention, to

473
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Speaker 2: file right, to be able to file. So case you know,

474
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Speaker 2: I remember I told you last week. I said, I've

475
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Speaker 2: been feeling a little a little downhearted lately, been feeling

476
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Speaker 2: a little downtrodden, a little sad about, like feeling like

477
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Speaker 2: we're not making a difference, and you know, we're doing

478
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Speaker 2: all this stuff and nothing ever changes. And then I

479
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: told you, you know, I had this conversation with my

480
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Speaker 2: old man and he said, look, he said, in my

481
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Speaker 2: job and his job was to put criminals back behind bars.

482
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Speaker 1: He said, I would get that.

483
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Speaker 2: Way, he said, And then and then something happened, something

484
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Speaker 2: would hit right, and you would that would that would

485
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Speaker 2: give you the strength you need to trudge forward.

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Speaker 1: Well, Casey, this is it.

487
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Speaker 2: This is going to be what I need the strength

488
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Speaker 2: necessary to trudch for it because I did a little math.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah the little math. Wasn't great at math in high school,

490
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Speaker 2: but I did I did pull out my handied andy

491
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Speaker 2: cellular telephone and best as I can see. Diego Morales

492
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: beat Destiny Wells in twenty twenty two by about two

493
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand votes. Now, it's hard to imagine

494
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: a worse candidate than Destiny Wells, so I think that's

495
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Speaker 2: the low baseline of the most Diego could have won

496
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Speaker 2: by was about two hundred and fifty thousand votes. So

497
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Speaker 2: that means simple. Matt tells us that if one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty five thousand people switch their vote, like if

499
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand people say I'm going

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Speaker 2: from this guy to this guy, then that person would

501
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Speaker 2: be the winner, and so over the next year.

502
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Speaker 1: My goal in life, the thing.

503
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Speaker 2: That will give me meaning and drive and a reason

504
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Speaker 2: to get up every morning, is to cost Diego Morales.

505
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Speaker 2: To find a way to use this well. Some people

506
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Speaker 2: say nobody listens, but some people say we're the most

507
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Speaker 2: powerful media entity in the state. Wherever we are, all

508
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 2: points in between, nobody listens are the most powerful, whatever

509
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: little power we may have the next year, because we're

510
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Speaker 2: basically a year from the election, to spend the next

511
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Speaker 2: year finding a way to cost Diego Morales in the

512
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Speaker 2: Indiana Republican Party one hundred and twenty five thousand votes.

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Speaker 1: That is what will give me, meaning casey, there you go.

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Speaker 3: So bo Bye said, Morales is protecting a pretty good

515
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Speaker 3: thing for himself and his buddies at taxpayers expense, And

516
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Speaker 3: I want.

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Speaker 1: To be there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you actually open an email server.

519
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you like pull a door and

520
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: you open it up. All I want, though, is if

521
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: we find a way to keep Diego Morales from being

522
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Speaker 2: Secretary of State, I want to.

523
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Speaker 1: Be there that day that email server is open.

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Speaker 3: Do you think bo Bye will find out who paid

525
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Speaker 3: for India? Well, I'm he's got a pretty good shot

526
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Speaker 3: at it.

527
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Speaker 2: Right I'm guessing someone connected to him probably has already

528
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Speaker 2: started looking looking into that. But look, this is great.

529
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Speaker 2: It's going to be great for transparency. It's going to

530
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Speaker 2: be great to give the public an option. It's great

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Speaker 2: that the Democrats, finally, at least on paper, are are

532
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Speaker 2: are putting forth people that aren't complete unacceptable weirdos. Who

533
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Speaker 2: are I mean the article that Briggs did with this announcement. Look,

534
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: the kids pretty seasoned already right now. I was elected

535
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Speaker 2: at twenty seven, So this doesn't impress me the way

536
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: it might other people, right, because I had already done this.

537
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Speaker 2: But he was very adamant about talking, trying to put

538
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Speaker 2: people's minds that he's like. He said, look, voter IDs

539
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Speaker 2: are settled law. You're never gonna hear me as Secretary

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Speaker 2: of State challenge it or take it on or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's accepted law.

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Speaker 2: And that's gonna be the real thing he's gonna have

543
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: to do early on is present himself as an acceptable alternative.

544
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: And he's gonna have to tell the people in his

545
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: party to cut the crap. He's gonna have to tell

546
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: you this. The on demand abortion people put him in

547
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 2: a corner. The men playing women's sports people put them

548
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: in a corner. The chop little kids being able to

549
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: chop off their penises group put them in a corner.

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00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: He's going to have to overcome that group because so

551
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Speaker 2: many people would say, well, yeah, Diego's totally corrupt and

552
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: unethical andlah blah blah. But boy can't risk hevin that

553
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: group of people in charge of anything. That's going to

554
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Speaker 2: be the major challenge for Boba.

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Speaker 3: I think he's also going to have to handle the

556
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Speaker 3: objection about his residents living in India.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't care if the guy lives in Zimbabwe.

558
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: If he's going to open up the servers and show

559
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: her by how corrupt the Republicans are, sign me up, Casey.

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Speaker 3: His dad said that this is a new generation of

561
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Speaker 3: leadership and they would be focused on unity, progress and

562
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: common sense. You're listening to Kettle and Casey. It is

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Speaker 3: ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: So I read this article over.

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Speaker 2: The weekend and it's fascinating to me, Casey, about how

566
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Speaker 2: the science community, for lack of a better term, has

567
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: now come completely full circle and many of the world's

568
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: leading scientists are now saying what most of us have

569
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: known our entire lives, which is, yeah, there's definitely a God,

570
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Speaker 2: and that's the only logical conclusion.

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Speaker 3: So it's the articles called does God exist? Modern science

572
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: shows he must? Bestseller argues. So this is based on

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Speaker 3: a book by some scientists who got together who tried

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Speaker 3: to answer the question.

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Speaker 2: And one of these scientists, Fastening. Fasting read one of

576
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Speaker 2: these scientists early in life was an atheist who was

577
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Speaker 2: then convinced purely from a scientific perspective, right. And one

578
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Speaker 2: of the things that these science this article lays out

579
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Speaker 2: is that if you by the way, I think it

580
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: was what. The Times had had an article on this.

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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail had an article about this about these

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Speaker 2: scientists in this book they've got out he is every

583
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Speaker 2: theory they come back to, you come back to. Yeah,

584
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Speaker 2: but that couldn't have happened from nothing. Like every time

585
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: they pushed science to a new theory, and many of

586
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: them have been debunked, like the stretching and shrinking theory

587
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: and all. You know, all of these scientific theories and

588
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: then get sort of etched in stone and then later

589
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: get to disproved. The one thing science can't get around

590
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: is something, even the smallest of things, can't come from nothing.

591
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Something had to start the thing.

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Speaker 3: They said, the question of God's existence is now forcibly

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Speaker 3: back on the table through science, not faith or theology.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like they keep trying to disprove it and

595
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Speaker 3: then they can't. They run into a wall.

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Speaker 1: Well, look at it's a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty I've always thought it to be a pretty empty

598
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Speaker 2: existence to think, go through your life thinking all of

599
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: this just accidentally happen, right, like, just how could all

600
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: of this so perfectly? And you know what it was

601
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Speaker 2: really reinforced to me. You know I was a believer,

602
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: but when my daughter was the process of my daughter

603
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Speaker 2: being born, like from conception through birth, and the one

604
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Speaker 2: thing I was sitting there in the hospital think about

605
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Speaker 2: is how does the baby know to come out?

606
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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: How do they know? Right?

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Speaker 2: And in a weird way, I think God taps the

609
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Speaker 2: baby the shoulder says, hey it you know.

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Speaker 1: It's time, right?

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00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And so you think about all of these things that

613
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: just in order for them to all work perfectly and

614
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: come together perfectly and to have not just human life,

615
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: but all of these things around us, you think it

616
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: came from some.

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Speaker 1: Just just boom or bang or what. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a heck of a stretch.

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Speaker 2: And I have long thought that the people who are

620
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Speaker 2: so desperate to prove it's almost like we talked about

621
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Speaker 2: to begin in the show. These people so desperately want

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Speaker 2: you to believe Indianapolis is safe that they'll take anything

623
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Speaker 2: to stretch and mental pretzel themselves to try to prove

624
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Speaker 2: that point, including well, the governor made a stupid tweet,

625
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: see everything's really great here. It's sort of the same

626
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Speaker 2: thing here that these mental pretzels in this article does

627
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Speaker 2: a great job of laying.

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Speaker 1: It out that that.

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Speaker 2: Like every time we try to mental science tries to

630
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Speaker 2: mental pretzel itself to make some theory on how this

631
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Speaker 2: could have happened. Then sometimes it takes years, but years

632
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: later gets disproved. The most what's the Okham's razor thing?

633
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Speaker 2: The most logical answer is usually the one that's right,

634
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: and the most logical answer is that there is something

635
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Speaker 2: greater than ourselves out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So this book covers some major scientific theories and

637
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: fields like the Big Bang, relativity, quantum mechanics, and also DNA.

638
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: And you know, they argue that this is not a

639
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: religious book, but it's a scientific critique of materialism.

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Speaker 1: And you see more and more.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've laid these articles that I try to

642
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Speaker 2: whenever whenever they come out, because they just think they're

643
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: fascinating about these you know, science based individuals who their

644
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: whole thing is they don't want it to be They

645
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: want there to be some logical I can hold it

646
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Speaker 2: in my.

647
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Speaker 3: Hand, some scientific proof, right.

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Speaker 1: And they can't find it.

649
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: And then they some of these people are bold enough

650
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Speaker 2: to finally just say, hey, I throw in the towel.

651
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Speaker 1: We can't do this.

652
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Speaker 2: And we've been at this for so long that the

653
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Speaker 2: most logical from a purely scientific standpoint, the most logical

654
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: answer is that there is a higher being, There is

655
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Speaker 2: a higher power, and we are all blessed to have

656
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Speaker 2: this in front of us and to be able to

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Speaker 2: be on this earth and be a part of this

658
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Speaker 2: magnificent creation.

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Speaker 3: So another question was asked over the weekend. Is Indiana's

660
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Speaker 3: business climate losing traction? Oh, we'll take a deep dive

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