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Speaker 3: You're listening to Casey and Jim, it is ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 3: We're going back to the moon next line.

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Speaker 1: and the weather and that sort of thing. But we're

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Speaker 1: looking about April tenth or April eleventh, when the astronauts

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Speaker 1: will land here back on Earth. You know, it's no

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Speaker 1: longer like the Space Shuttle where it lands in the

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Speaker 1: desert like an airplane does. Hope. This is more like

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Speaker 1: the Apollo missions where the capsule splashes down in the ocean.

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Speaker 1: We'll have the parachutes that will deploy, and it is

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Speaker 1: supposed to splash down in the Pacific Ocean off the

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Speaker 1: west coast of the United States again, maybe around April

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Speaker 1: tenth or April eleventh, or NASA is not sure of

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Speaker 1: the exact timing and they're being flexible about this. But

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Speaker 1: that's going to be the other part of this. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about this last week about how, you know,

447
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Speaker 1: those of us from Gen X who grew up during

448
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Speaker 1: the age of the you know, Challenger explosion and all

449
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Speaker 1: watch that happen in real time in our classrooms when

450
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Speaker 1: we were kids, and we were all holding our breaths

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Speaker 1: as Artemis two launched into space. We're going to kind

452
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Speaker 1: of have that again because re entry tends to be

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Speaker 1: again probably the most dangerous portion of this mission. There

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Speaker 1: will be a communication blackout as they come through the atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: and then we're going to have our fingers crossed that

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Speaker 1: everything goes right. And it reminds me of that movie

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Speaker 1: Apollo thirteen, where you know, the whole world is watching

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Speaker 1: and we you know, we're anticipating this, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you get those video images of the

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Speaker 1: parachutes deployed and the capsule and.

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Speaker 3: Everybody can exhale. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was quite incredible.

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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 3: You've got a man speaking words of faith in to

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Speaker 3: the void, just the blackness of space before completely going

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Speaker 3: dark on the far side of the Moon.

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Speaker 1: That was genuinely extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: Now, something else emotional happened with the Artemis two mission

468
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Speaker 3: astronauts reaching the farthest distance from Earth. Did you see

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Speaker 3: the video and the pictures of the moon and how

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Speaker 3: crystal clear it was. The crew proposed naming a lunar

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Speaker 3: crater Carol named after and Carol Weismann, and I thought,

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Speaker 3: you know, she was the late wife of one of

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Speaker 3: the astronauts, and you when you hear something like that,

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Speaker 3: you remember that these are actually this exploration is being

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Speaker 3: driven by people, not just policy. And that's a very

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Speaker 3: a personal thing that happened, and it goes beyond the

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Speaker 3: massive government mission and into individual sacrifice and personal story.

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Speaker 3: And it's a reminder about the human motivation, not bureaucracy,

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Speaker 3: that actually is driving those astronauts.

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Speaker 1: That are up there. Yeah, Rush Limbaugh always used to

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Speaker 1: say it best. He said, you know, ours is a

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Speaker 1: nation that is best exemplified by ordinary Americans doing extraordinary things.

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Speaker 1: And NASA and these astronauts have certainly done some extraordinary things.

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Speaker 1: There's one photo that NASA just released this morning that

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Speaker 1: I think will end up becoming the most iconic photo

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Speaker 1: of this and I'll try and describe it. You see

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Speaker 1: the Moon, and the moon is really close. You can't

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Speaker 1: even see the whole Moon. You just kind of see

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Speaker 1: this curved horizon, and there is this massive crater in

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Speaker 1: the moon takes up the majority of the photo, just

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Speaker 1: this huge crater, and just over the Moon's horizon is

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Speaker 1: the Earth. So again, it's getting pushed out heavily on

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Speaker 1: social media this morning. They just released it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say it is probably going to become one

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Speaker 1: of the most iconic images of this Artimists two Mission

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Speaker 1: so some.

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Speaker 3: Of the other more lighthearted mission part of the mission.

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Speaker 3: So you've got this highly technical, government run mission, all

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Speaker 3: of these you know, big powerful moments, and then you

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Speaker 3: have the crew filming in eighties sitcom style intro.

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Speaker 1: We were doing scenes from bad eighties sitcom when they

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Speaker 1: introduced the cast of characters, so that's why we all

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Speaker 1: did those. And we are cracking up up here.

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Speaker 3: So that shows you what kind of people we sent

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Speaker 3: up there, right, they have enough confidence to pull off

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Speaker 3: this mission, but also the humor to make a sitcom

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Speaker 3: intro while they're doing some very historically significant things, being

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Speaker 3: farther in space than any human has ever traveled before,

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Speaker 3: naming craters on the Moon, taking video and picture of

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Speaker 3: these amazing shots that they're seeing their view and yet

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Speaker 3: there's still like, you know, I wave into the camera,

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Speaker 3: having a little fun.

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Speaker 1: Right up there. They're doing TikTok videos up on up

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Speaker 1: in space with NASA. I also, you know, again, one

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Speaker 1: of the funnier stories that's come out of this is

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Speaker 1: that broken toilet that keeps popping up and having problems,

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Speaker 1: which by itself hilarious. I know it's a serious situation,

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Speaker 1: but a broken toilet's always funny, but that must be like,

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Speaker 1: the toilet part of this must be really difficult, because

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, NASA launched their Lunar lou as in Bathroom,

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Speaker 1: then Lunar lou Challenge and again this was in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty where they ask people to submit designs in NASA

523
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Speaker 1: awarded prizes associated with the toilet and then they go

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Speaker 1: up there and they get launched and the toilet breaks,

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Speaker 1: and then they fix it and then the toilet breaks again.

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Speaker 1: So go into the bathroom in space that I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have thought that would be such a huge, serious challenge,

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Speaker 1: but apparently it's one of the most difficult parts of

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Speaker 1: this whole thing. Everybody poops. Jim, Well, well, a serious

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Speaker 1: problem if it's not working. I mean, are we talking

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Speaker 1: about that flowing around whatever? You know, one of the

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Speaker 1: astronauts while the toilet was broken, had to go in

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Speaker 1: a bag. Yeah, that's an issue in a lot of

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Speaker 1: different ways. So the toilet has been one of the

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Speaker 1: interesting stories that's come out of this lunar mission too.

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Speaker 3: Something that was floating around up there that you might

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Speaker 3: have seen was a floating jar of chocolate hazel nut spread.

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Speaker 3: They had the jar of nutella, which was floating around

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Speaker 3: while they were up there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I probably would have chose peanut butter.

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Speaker 1: What dude, that come over, Natella, Come on, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: just glad that these astronauts. I always think back to

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Speaker 1: when I see documentaries and movies that the food is

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Speaker 1: so bizarre up in space for a number of different reasons.

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Speaker 1: We talked last week about how they can't have bread

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Speaker 1: and space because bread creates a lot of crumbs and

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Speaker 1: then those crumbs can you know, maybe work their way

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Speaker 1: inside of the sensitive electronics. So the food up there

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Speaker 1: is very specific, but it does seem like it does

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Speaker 1: seem like, for the first time, at least in a

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Speaker 1: long time that I can remember, the astronauts are at

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Speaker 1: least eating well. They've got things like Natella. We talked

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Speaker 1: about some of the other dishes. They're eating beef brisket,

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Speaker 1: they got barbic jew and space for it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's sounds fantastic over you know, kind of the freeze

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Speaker 1: dried food of Yet the years of Tang. Remember Tang

557
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Speaker 1: was this you know, space drink, and it was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be wonderful and fantastic and because the astronauts drank

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Speaker 1: and they sold it to the American public and little

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Speaker 1: kids were drinking Tang. And then it turns out Tang

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Speaker 1: is just a you know, maybe a slightly better version

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Speaker 1: of meta musil. It's just not that good man. Come on, holla.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen distance record stood for fifty six years and it

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Speaker 3: was broken by four astronauts with a floating jar of Natella.

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Speaker 1: I do love Natella. It's so versatile. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can put Natella on crackers, you can put it on fruit,

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Speaker 1: you can put it on pancakes. It's great just by itself.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense. Natella, you know, goes with just about everything.

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Speaker 3: It's nuch record was broken last night. It was only twice.

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Speaker 3: Now Michigan has won the NCAA Championship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big night last night here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll talk about it coming up. You're listening tonight

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Speaker 3: each ONIBC. Yukon came in looking to be the next powerhouse.

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Speaker 3: But college sports always has a reset. There were no shortcuts,

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Speaker 3: no carryover dominance, just results, and it came down to

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Speaker 3: old fashioned basketball defense, three froze and discipline. That's what

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Speaker 3: it was for Michigan. As they beat out new Talent

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Speaker 3: and the cycle resets again with Michigan winning. What was

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Speaker 3: the final score, sixty nine to sixty three.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was, yeah, sixty nine to sixty three. Look,

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Speaker 1: Michigan clearly looked like the best team throughout the entire tournament,

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Speaker 1: and they proved it last night. And this is what

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Speaker 1: it sounded like. Pretty good game last night, exciting right

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Speaker 1: down to the bitter end. But look, for me, as always,

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Speaker 1: the highlight of it, all of the entire Final four,

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Speaker 1: is how awesome Indianapolis is and how we do sports

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Speaker 1: like no one else. Be proud, be proud of your

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Speaker 1: city today because it was amazing this weekend. And look,

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Speaker 1: I understand our city's got lots of problems, but we

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Speaker 1: do one thing better than anybody else in the country,

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Speaker 1: and that is we do a great job at putting

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Speaker 1: on big time sporting events. Sure, we got the Pacers

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Speaker 1: and the Colts and the Fever all the time. But

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Speaker 1: whether it's the NBA All Star Game, WNBA All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the ndy five hundred, you know, the US

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Speaker 1: Swimming Trials where we put an Olympic swimming pool into

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Speaker 1: Lucas oil Field, and now the Final Four again, certainly

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Speaker 1: not like the first time Indianapolis hosted the Final Four,

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Speaker 1: but it was our city was on show to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the country. And that's important. Keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: all fifty states compete with each other. We're all competing

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Speaker 1: with every other state in this country for things like

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Speaker 1: you know, new population, businesses, investment, eyeballs, big events coming

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Speaker 1: to town. We're all ultimately, we're all competing for dollars.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why it's so important. How many other

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Speaker 1: cities can sit here and say, oh, we're the best

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Speaker 1: at something. I mean, even look around. I mean New

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Speaker 1: York City you can say, Okay, you know, it's the

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Speaker 1: city that never sleeps. If you want, you know, tai

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Speaker 1: food at three o'clock in the morning, you can do that.

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Speaker 1: If you want to, you know, do kickboxing at midnight,

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Speaker 1: you can do that. Chicago, it's a beautiful city. It's architecture,

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Speaker 1: it's clean, it's wonderful. But you know, if you want,

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Speaker 1: you know, San Francisco, they're the tech hub of the

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Speaker 1: entire world. To be up there with those only other

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Speaker 1: handful of cities where you can say, hey, we're the

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Speaker 1: best in the country at something is really impressive for Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: and it starts off with the vibes. Saw a ton

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Speaker 1: of great videos and people landed at the airport. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the first thing when you walked off the

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Speaker 1: gate at the airport you saw I thought this was interesting.

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Speaker 1: A lot of banners talking about IU who's your football?

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Speaker 1: Being national champions and Fernando Mendoza. But that didn't like

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Speaker 1: long because you got into the airport and there were

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Speaker 1: nuts and hoops and you had the championship trophy there.

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Speaker 1: And then when you walk in, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: get out of the into the main airport area where

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Speaker 1: you go down to baggage claim, there was that big

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Speaker 1: banner that just said it like we always love it.

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Speaker 1: In forty nine other states, it's just basketball, but this

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Speaker 1: is Indiana, Indianapolis. Well, I mean, lots of kudos from

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Speaker 1: national media and visitors from out of town. Nobody does

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Speaker 1: big sporting events like Indianapolis. And it was just a

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Speaker 1: spectacular weekend.

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Speaker 3: And why did they always seem surprised, like, oh, hey, wow,

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Speaker 3: this is pretty cool. It's such a walkable city. It's

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Speaker 3: not like this is the first time this has happened here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think because Indianapolis is a small town. I

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Speaker 1: mean as far as big cities go in metro population,

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Speaker 1: we're about thirty fifth, So we're not in New York

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Speaker 1: or LA or Chicago or Miami. So I think there

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Speaker 1: is a surprise that people come here and they're like, man,

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Speaker 1: this place is great, this is awesome. They do a

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Speaker 1: great job at the Final Four, the super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: these other big sporting events. But yeah, everybody was surprised.

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Speaker 1: But that's good. I want to exceed expect dictations always,

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Speaker 1: and Indianapolis did this weekend.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Casey and Jim and it's ninety three WIBC.

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