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Speaker 2: I'd forgotten how liberating it is to walk around in speedo's.

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Speaker 2: I think I just need to be stretched. I will

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Speaker 2: I could do this on the camera, probably for folks.

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Speaker 1: It's like a rock. Yeah, look at that?

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Speaker 2: Or are you not impressed? I wonder to myself, I

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Speaker 2: wonder how big it is. That's fifty two years of

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Speaker 1: On ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 2: The fan heard it from a friend who heard it

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Speaker 2: from a friend. Well, isn't that quite the montage, Jeddie Garrison?

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Speaker 2: That you put together there right a year and a

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Speaker 2: half or so of doing this radio program, and that

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Speaker 2: right there encompasses the forty seconds of actual radio airplay

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Speaker 2: that is worth redistribution.

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Speaker 1: Correct, there was something that I had to have to

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Speaker 1: save for a later date, Jake. I can't really, I

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Speaker 2: Well, it is in fact my birthday. Thank you having birthday, sir.

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Speaker 2: Here's what's funny, I was thinking about this on the

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Speaker 2: which is always appreciated. I don't mean that in a

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Speaker 2: it is greatly appreciated. And you do still look at

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Speaker 2: It's September third. One of the things that for me

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Speaker 2: the luckiest person on the planet because I have just

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Speaker 2: grateful for that. And that is the birthday gift that

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Speaker 2: sweet sixteen. Right on my sixteenth birthday nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: For that particular season, the Colts were coming off of

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Speaker 2: year that symbolized both my sixteenth and then eighteenth birthday,

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Speaker 2: my twenty fifth birthday when I turned twenty five. That year,

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Speaker 2: The year my fortieth birthday, where they had just gone through.

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Speaker 2: Then for my fiftieth birthday, I'm celebrating my fiftieth birthday.

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Speaker 2: I mean basically you're biding your time, You're treading water

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Speaker 1: Not a bad thing. Not a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: those are two teams that realistically you very well could

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00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: be fighting with for a wild card spot at the

434
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: end of the year if they don't win their division.

435
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, Houston or Jacksonville, And I

436
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: know people say Jacksonville, what if if Jacksonville is able

437
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: to keep Trevor Lawrence upright and get him in rhythm.

438
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: I think Jacksonville can be a decent team as well,

439
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: probably along where the Colts are Houston, if they're healthy.

440
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: All of this is all topic of conversation with the

441
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: NFL this time of year is based upon if they

442
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: are healthy. But I think it's very safe to say

443
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: that the Colts they if they're gonna have a chance

444
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: of the postseason or be interesting in November and December,

445
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: then they need to get certainly one, if not both

446
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: of these games to begin, because these are teams that

447
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: they're going to be sitting there in that lane waiting

448
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 2: to turn into left lane with that with the blinkers on,

449
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: waiting to see who's going to be able to merge

450
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: over into that lane that would extend their year. Speaking

451
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: of lane changes, there is a big one that happened.

452
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: We told you about it yesterday. If you listen to

453
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: this show, you were the smartest person at your water

454
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: cooler today because I told you yesterday of another domino,

455
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: and yet in fact it is now confirmed. I'll let

456
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: you know about that, and we will find out why

457
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: Eddie Garrison is chugging the caffeine, including that in which

458
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: I brought him earlier today. It was a late night.

459
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: We will review and I'll explain next So Saturday, you

460
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: tell me if you find this odd, Eddie. I might

461
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: have mentioned this once or twenty times, but since I'm

462
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: going to, you know, after the the IndyCar season, and

463
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: you know now that the season's over with and I

464
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: look forward to being home for you know, six months basically,

465
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: but you know, it's been it's been a hectic last

466
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: six to eight weeks. And so I'm literally going, I

467
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: mean leave Friday night and I come back Sunday. I

468
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 2: mean I'm gone for like forty hours, but I am

469
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: going to go to that concert Oasis, as I'd mentioned,

470
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: at the Rose Bowl on Saturday. And because it is

471
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: an evening show, I'm gonna have a little bit of time,

472
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: and I will my body will be on Eastern time still,

473
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: so when I land, you know, i'll get up Saturday

474
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: morning in California, like at the crack of dawn basically.

475
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: And I think I might have told you once or

476
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: twenty times what I'm doing, but I'm going out to

477
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: the Spawn ranch where the Manson family lived. Yeah, and

478
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: they have the Manson Family Cave, which is a cave

479
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: where there's a photo of all of the Manson girls

480
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nine from Life magazine, and they have

481
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: written in the rock Manson Cave and that cave is

482
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: still there and most of spawn ranch is now gone,

483
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: but the cave with GPS court into whatever else you

484
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: can get to it now it does say high risk

485
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: of poison oak. So I've got to take pants. I

486
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: gotta wear pants now. I don't know that they wore

487
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: a lot of pants with the Manson family back then.

488
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear pants.

489
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: But is that?

490
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: Is that weird that I'm going to that before the concert?

491
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: Didn't you like have written communication or something? What was

492
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: that letter that you.

493
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: Have as Yeah, I wrote Charles Manson a letter and

494
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: he brought me back.

495
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

496
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: But I most people would find that probably bizarre, but

497
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: I find it simply historically fascinating. Colton Hurda is the

498
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: new announced test driver for Formula One for Andretti Global

499
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: and the Cadillac team, basically the Cadillac Formula One team.

500
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: And this is as we talked about yesterday, Domino number two,

501
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: and I would fully anticipate that it will not be

502
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: long before Will Power is announced as the driver of

503
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: the number twenty six Gamebridge Honda for Andretti Global. Now,

504
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: the other driver that could factor into that is Indie

505
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: Next Champion Dennis Hauger. But I believe that Dennis Hauger

506
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: is probably the front runner to end up driving for

507
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: dale Coin Racing because yesterday also we mentioned on this

508
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: show that Renus VK, who is driving for dal Coin Racing,

509
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: that his contract was up and that he likely would

510
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: end up in David Malucas's old car because David Malucas

511
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: is going to go replace will Power, and VK is

512
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: somebody that I can tell you Team Penske has been

513
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 2: very fond of and even though he has not had

514
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: a lot of wins in his career, they are very

515
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: keen on his talent, his age, his personality, everything about

516
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Renus VK. I think that Team Penske wants to closely

517
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: monitor and they have a technical alliance with Freight Racing,

518
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: So I think VK has an outstanding opportunity to end

519
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: up if Penske is able to somewhat fun part of it,

520
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: because Foight Racing doesn't have the kind of money to

521
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: pay the salary that VK is looking for. But if

522
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: VK ends up in that number four car of David Lucas,

523
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: which I anticipate eight. Then that would indicate that there

524
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: is probably some Penske backing there or Penske interest in it.

525
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: And I think that dale Coin's team is likely going

526
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: to be Dennis Hauger along with Roman Grojan, who's going

527
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: to return to the series and is bringing with him

528
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: some money, I believe, And there's good backing for dale Coin.

529
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Now that's that's a decent team. That's a decent that's

530
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: a decent ride for sure. But that's where things stand

531
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: with that. But Colton Hurda is the next domino here

532
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: will power, depending on what happens, may be joining us

533
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: tomorrow and we can get more indication from him on

534
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: what's going on. But let's get back into why Eddie today. Eddie,

535
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: you are drinking caffeinated beverages today?

536
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Correct? I know I have the I have a honeysin

537
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: intrist mint tea. Okay, well tea is caffeinated.

538
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: I know.

539
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: I was just letting people know it wasn't the shining

540
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: tea today.

541
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: Well, but you are what I'm getting at, and thanks

542
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: for playing along, is that you need caffeine because you

543
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: were up late last night, correct.

544
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Yes, late night last night with the Fever.

545
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, fever last night. Eddie was on the post game

546
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: show and the pregame show for that matter, as the

547
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Fever last night were on the short end against Phoenix.

548
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: My question for you, Eddie Garrison, we will rehash what

549
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: you talked about in the postgame show on this radio

550
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: station as you do for each and every broadcast of

551
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: the Fever. The next chance that you will do so

552
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: will be against the Sky. That is going to be

553
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: Friday night seven to fifteen pregame. But this impacts Indiana

554
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: nout in terms of their postseason and they're pushed to

555
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: the postseason in what way?

556
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: All right? So after that loss last night, they were

557
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: seventh going into yesterday Today they are eighth in the

558
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: WNBA standings. They have a half a game deficit on

559
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: the Seattle Storm, who have played one more game than

560
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: the Fever, so they have two left. Indiana has three left.

561
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Seattle does not play tonight their next game, and Indiana

562
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: has the head to head tiebreaker in the event that

563
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: these two teams finished with the same record. Seattle next

564
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: plays on Friday against New York Liberty, who are struggling

565
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: right now. Without Sabrina Ganescu, and they just locked up

566
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: a playoffs bout yesterday, So you now have five teams

567
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: that have clinched a playoff Berth. There are four teams

568
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: vying for the last three Golden State, Seattle, Indiana, and

569
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. The Valkyries are in sixth. They are a

570
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: game and a half up on the Fever, a game

571
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: up on Seattle. Los Angeles is out on the outside

572
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: looking in. They are a game behind the Indiana Fever.

573
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: If those two teams were an end up at a tie,

574
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: which seems very unlikely, then Indiana would be out of

575
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs, los Angeles would be in. And I say

576
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: unlikely because the upcoming schedule for Los Angeles is very daunting.

577
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: They have two games at Atlanta, they have the Los

578
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: Fagots Aces, they have the Phoenix Mercury. All four of

579
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: those teams right now or all four of those games,

580
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: those three teams are tied for second in the standing.

581
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: So there's probably not going to be an avenue in

582
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: which any of those teams are resting players just because

583
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to get you know, the second seed or

584
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: the third seed or what have you. So right now,

585
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: it seems likely that the Fever will make it in

586
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: just depends on what seed they get at this point.

587
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then of course you have the discussion of

588
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: Kate mcclark, the return, the availability Eddie, if you could

589
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: please the breaking news sounder, This just in and Dretti

590
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: Global confirming will Power will be driving the number twenty

591
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: six Gamebridge Honda for next season for the team in

592
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: the NTT Indyecar season.

593
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Look at that. You spoke it into existence to it.

594
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: I did.

595
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: That's what we do on this show, right, we speak

596
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: things into existence on this program.

597
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: And if you're wondering how the Fever can secure playoffs,

598
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: butot essentially they have to win to their final three

599
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: games or Los Angeles has to lose three of their

600
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: next five.

601
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: You know it's it is an uncomfortable When I say uncomfortable,

602
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: it is an odd question to ask because you always

603
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: and you owe it to your roster to do everything

604
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 2: you can to push in on what the beginning season

605
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: goal is. And the beginning season goal for any team

606
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: is to win a championship. And while it is easy

607
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: to look at the Fever and say a game over

608
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: five hundred tough games down the stretch, even though Chicago

609
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: has been a team that they have fared very well against,

610
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: devastated by injury. Caitlin Clark out, McDonald out, Cunningham out,

611
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: Colson out, Bibbie out. I mean they have been devastated

612
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: by injury and they have had to just plug and

613
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: play and pick up players. I mean, the Indiana Fever

614
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season is like your fantasy team with kickers.

615
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: Each week. It's like, you know what my kickers on

616
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: a BI I just got to let me go on

617
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: the free agent wire.

618
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a kicker. Boom.

619
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: Who's your kicker this way? I can't remember some guy

620
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: I picked up. I think I think it's Arizona's. Okay, great,

621
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: who's your kicker this week? You know what the guy

622
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: had in Arizona. He missed two kicks and they cut him.

623
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: So I just picked up Detroit, you know, or defenses

624
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: the same thing. That's how the Fever have had to

625
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: handle their backcourt this year. And when I say this,

626
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: it's going to people are going to laugh at me.

627
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: This might be unpopular opinion. And yes, I'm talking about

628
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: someone that is a regular guest on this program, And

629
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: yes I will readily admit that when it comes to

630
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: the fever, perhaps I don't know it in terms of

631
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: the nuances the game by game, watching every play like

632
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: I do the Pacers, partially because of the season in

633
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: which they play many of their games. They are playing

634
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: them when I'm on the road doing IndyCar races or

635
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: whatever else. I just I don't see. I mean, I'm

636
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: not able to sit now. I could certainly go back

637
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: and watch after the fact. I get that, and I've

638
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: done that, but you get what I'm saying. I'm not

639
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: sitting there watching it with the same eye that I

640
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: am the Pacers, and I certainly understand and I respect

641
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: that at the beginning of the season, when they did

642
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: have full strength, there were questions about the style they

643
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: were playing and whether or not it was the most

644
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 2: advantageous style to the way that they should or need

645
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: to be playing. I get and understand all of those things,

646
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: and I respect all of those things. Having said all

647
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: of that, and an expert within the WNBA, I am not.

648
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: But when you look overall at everything that the franchise

649
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: has had to contend with, and the fact that we

650
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: are still having this conversation, and they have talented players.

651
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: Kelsey Mitchell's had a great year and has been everything

652
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 2: that you'd want. Aliah Boston has had a good year,

653
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: and both of those players have been able to carry

654
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: with them, you know, an element of everything that comes

655
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: with the expectation of the year. But I personally think,

656
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: and Eddie, I am welcoming you to tell me why

657
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, because you see this far more nuanced than

658
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: I and in far greater detail than I. And it's

659
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: like one of those It's like a money painting or

660
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: a rim Brandt painting where you look at it from

661
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: close up, it looks a lot different than when you

662
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: step all the way back and look at it. And

663
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing the finite parts of a Monet painting

664
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Speaker 2: because I'm not standing close enough to it.

665
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Speaker 1: You do.

666
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: But I think you have to give a huge tip

667
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: of the cap this year to the coaching job of

668
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Speaker 2: Stephanie White. I know that people are going to say

669
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: that that's biased because I, you know, know her, or

670
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: because she comes on this show. I mean, it's not

671
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: like a hang out with her, but you know, we

672
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: clearly have a very good professional, working relationship. But that's

673
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: not why I say that. I say it because they

674
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: are still in the mix. And while you can critique

675
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: all you'd like the way that they offensively approach things

676
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: with Caitlin Clark when she was there at the beginning

677
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: of the year and maybe didn't incorporate things, I get it.

678
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: I hear all of those criticisms and they may well

679
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: be warranted and valid, but will never know what could

680
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: have come from whatever they were building with the block

681
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: lego pieces at the beginning of the season, because every

682
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: time they started to build something, a different person came

683
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: in and pulled out the key block and they had

684
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Speaker 2: to restart all over again. And I think when you

685
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: look at the variety of ways that they've had to

686
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: play by personnel, I mean, I think you have to

687
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: tip your cap to it.

688
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: Now.

689
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Speaker 2: You tell me if that's incorrect.

690
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Now, you're absolutely right, Jake. I don't know how many

691
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: other coaches will be able to keep this fever team

692
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: afloat during all the roster turnover and changes they've had

693
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: to make along the way. And that has been impacted

694
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: the most with all these injuries has simply been a

695
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Leah Boston just because of the fact that you know,

696
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: when you talk about a dominating big like she can be.

697
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Oftentimes they are a little bit reliant on the ability

698
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: of others to space the floor, so teams can't key

699
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: in on her as much as they have been able to,

700
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, the last two weeks defensively and even though

701
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: the Fever are trying to find ways, and Stephanie White

702
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: talked about this last night leading up to the game,

703
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: is that they every night they're trying different ways to

704
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: get a lea boss at the ball. Some nights they're

705
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: more successful than others, but there's always going to be

706
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: an opportunity for Leah to have some sort of success

707
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: no matter who the point guard is or who the

708
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: guard is out there. And then to your point, I

709
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: think the part that Stephanie White has talked about and

710
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: players have talked about that have had so much success

711
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: for the Fever this year, even without Caitlin Clark, is

712
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: the fact that she doesn't try to put people in

713
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: positions that they aren't comfortable and she puts them in

714
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: positions that they are comfortable in and to their best

715
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: skill set and to you know, put the team in

716
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: the position to win. And the rotation may not be

717
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: saying from night tonight, it's you know, trying to figure

718
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: out which five on the floor collectively are the best

719
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: five together, and then you go from there. And I

720
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: give Stephand White a lot of credit because most coaches

721
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: would not be able to keep this roster and keep

722
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: this team over five hundred and in the playoff picture.

723
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I think it has been impressive

724
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: for certain, no question about it. By the way, on

725
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: the program today, Charles Davis is going to join us

726
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: right coming up about one o'clock.

727
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Speaker 1: Yes, the voice of Madden. Really, I thought, well, he's

728
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: one of them. He's one of the analysts on Madden.

729
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: I should say Brandon Gunnon's the voice of.

730
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Speaker 2: Madden, right, yes, yes, there's multiple voices now, Mike Nysialik

731
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Speaker 2: is did I say the last name correctly? Bloomington Herald

732
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Telephon Times newspaper, right, yes, the Bloomington Herald Times. He's

733
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: going to join us talk a little Indiana football coming

734
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: up at one point thirty on the program today. And

735
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: then are we getting Matt Verderram?

736
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Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, Tyo Bell Chat.

737
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Verderram who came for the combine and fell

738
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: in love with Indianapolis because of Taco Bell Cantina, The

739
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: Taco Bell Cantina.

740
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: Is that still there by the way, Oh it is, Yes,

741
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: it's still downtown. Ja is it right around the corner?

742
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

743
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Should we do my birthday dinner there? I think we're

744
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: doing Chicago's Pizza, right, Really got to do Chicago's Pizza.

745
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: You kidding me? It's too bad you can't get there,

746
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: you know, during the lunch hour.

747
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: I know, well, you still got time though, if you're

748
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: out and about right now, to do the lunch buffet

749
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: Chicago's Pizza, because it runs till one thirty. And you

750
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: get the pizza, you get the bread sticks, you get

751
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: the salad bar options, you get the soft drink, you

752
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: get the dessert pizza, all for thirteen bucks.

753
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Thirteen bucks.

754
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: Thick about that that place you're looking at right now

755
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: at fast food joint you're driving past sixteen bucks out

756
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: the door. Thirteen dollars at Chicago's Pizza. A value at

757
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: twice the price, absolute value at twice the price. There

758
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: is a sports bucket list item last night that I

759
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: again began to ponder, and I would like to know

760
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: if anybody's done it. I think it would be the best,

761
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: the best sports weekend. You know, people talk about like

762
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, and I get it a final four.

763
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: There's nothing like the opening round of the NCAA tournament,

764
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis five hundred. It goes without saying it's my

765
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: favorite week end of the year. But there is another

766
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: thing that I thought about, and I thought this would

767
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: be the ultimate and I'd like to know if anybody

768
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: else has done it, because I think I might have

769
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: to before year fifty four. I'll tell you what it

770
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Speaker 2: is next. By the way, Eddie, do you happen to

771
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Speaker 2: have again the breaking news sounder? Hey Jake, sound the

772
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Speaker 2: breaking news alarm daily female listener here. I think your

773
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: lady listeners would agree that skip the twenty five as

774
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: a milestone. Birthday thirty felt more like a milestone to me. Okay,

775
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 2: that's fair, But I do know another female caller named Aaron,

776
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: but this is Erin two. I believe Eddie, that takes

777
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: us to female caller number twenty six. Am I correct?

778
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: I think we're at twenty six, the twenty six to

779
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: twenty seven.

780
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: I think it's twenty six. We'll take it right. Thank you,

781
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, Erin, and thank you for female listener number

782
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: twenty six. So last night I am scanning the channels. Okay,

783
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: surfing if you will, radio or TV television Okay, this

784
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: was not the Fever game was not yet on.

785
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: I was a gonna say what time was this early

786
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: eight o'clock hour? So wait, did you find the re

787
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: rant of Jeopardy? Or did you find the first runt

788
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: of Jeopardy? I wowed everyone with the rerun? No, you

789
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: know what, I'll tell you the two things that I

790
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: watched and I thought of a sports bucket list item

791
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: that I thought this is. This would be a fabulous

792
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: sports weekend. But before that, as I was sifting through,

793
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the show America's Got Talent. I know

794
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: it's been around for like twenty five seasons or whatever,

795
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: partially because once you get to a certain point, there's

796
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: not a single contestant on it that's from America. I'm

797
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: not trying to get into some political thing.

798
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: I don't care. They're all interesting to me and fun

799
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: and exciting. But I'm like, it's isn't America. It's Got

800
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: Talent supposed to be like here's the house painter with

801
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: the unique talent, and instead it's like, here's a coffeehouse

802
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: singer that's been playing in Broadway in Nashville for twelve years. Okay,

803
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: but more so it is here's a band from India,

804
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: here's a magician from you know, Dubai, and here is

805
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 2: a juggling poodle from Australia.

806
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: And then you get Richard Goodall from good old Fort Wayne, India.

807
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: That's exactly right now, Tara Hot, Tara Hot, that's right. Sorry,

808
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: But there was a guy last night. And I'm probably

809
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: the last human being that watches this program, I realize,

810
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: but most magicians you can kind of figure out, you know,

811
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you know this is how that's done.

812
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: There is a magician on America's Got Talent. I think it's.

813
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: Called mind Bender or mind Craft or something like that.

814
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: And it's a guy that kind of looks like a

815
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know he he's dressed up like Boba Fett,

816
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: but he uses images like he he he gets into

817
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 2: your cell phone and sends messages to your cell phone

818
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: without typing on it. It's hard to explain, but if

819
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: anybody saw it last night, it truly was mind blowingly remarkable.

820
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: And so once I saw this act, I thought, well,

821
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: nobody can top this. Now they're going to bring out

822
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: some you know, some jackass that's going to try to,

823
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: you know, like whatever, do a bow and arrow through

824
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: a totally So I changed the channel and that's when

825
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: I realized this.

826
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Speaker 1: Naked and Afraid was on. I like that show too.

827
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: There is no.

828
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't say there's no sporting event that is better

829
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: than because there are. But I have said before and

830
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: I will say again, I think one of the most underrated,

831
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Speaker 2: underappreciated sporting events or sports to watch tennis. Yes, high

832
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: level tennis is captivating the hand eye coordination that is

833
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: required even at the most I grew up with Eric Barrett,

834
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: who was a state champion tennis player and had a

835
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: fabulous career in Indiana. I believe he won the Big

836
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: ten in singles. And I played every sport with Eric

837
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: growing up, and every sport that we played, Eric Barrett

838
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: was better than the rest of us because he had

839
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: a natural ability. His dad, Dinny Barrett, was a great

840
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 2: player in basketball, but Eric had a natural hand eye

841
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: coordination about him that you just you can't teach it,

842
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: and that transferred for him on the tennis court into

843
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: being an unbelievable tennis player. And one time he had

844
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: a tennis court in his backyard. One time, I had

845
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: him served me just a regular serve, and Eddie, I

846
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever tried to hit like a

847
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: high level serve, but it's unbelievable. I mean, it's it's

848
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: harder than hitting a fastball in baseball, in my opinion.

849
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: But the hand eye coordination and the movement and the

850
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: precision with which high level players play is remarkable. And

851
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 2: I love watching the US Open.

852
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: I do.

853
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: I like Wimbledon, I like the French Open. I'm not

854
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: a huge tennis fan, but I'm an appreciator of tennis.

855
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: And so I watched a lot of Fritz and Jokovic

856
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: last night, and I was thinking to myself, there would

857
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: be few things this time of year when the weather

858
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: is perfect.

859
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: So did you watch Djokovic? And was it Center last night?

860
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: It was Fritz Fritz, that's right, yeah, yes, And and

861
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: so when I was watching it, I was thinking to myself,

862
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: it would be awesome to take two or three days.

863
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: It would not be inexpensive, I realize, but to stay

864
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: in New York City, which is, in my opinion, the

865
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: greatest city in the world. There's always stuff going on

866
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: in New York, but to stay in New York City

867
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: to take the train over to Flushing. Right there in

868
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: Queens to take in say a day or two, or

869
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: a Center court or two. Not inexpensive. I realize you

870
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: don't have to sit down low. You can sit up

871
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: high to watch the US Open. And then if you

872
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: can mix in a Yankees or a Mets game, I

873
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: think that would be an unbelievable sports weekend and just

874
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: a weekend of energy and vibe that would be really

875
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: hard to top. I just think it is high level tennis.

876
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I can't. I'm not a tennis officionado.

877
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on it. I don't watch it

878
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: year round. I don't watch the you know whatever, the

879
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: Smithsonian Invitational and Rowing up Virginia, I don't watch that.

880
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: But I I it is an unbelievable, high level stuff

881
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: to watch, and I love the drama of it. I

882
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: think it'd be an awesome weekend. Charles Davis, by the way, NFL,

883
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: we can ask him our question the three teams see

884
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: if he matches Eddie or myself that we talked about

885
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: yesterday with Stephen Holder, but more specifically on the Colts

886
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 2: and Shane Steichen has spoken about Daniel Jones, and I'm

887
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: gonna play for you some of that audio as well.

888
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: Upcoming here it is Quiring Company. You're listening to an

889
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: A ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.

890
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's get right to it. The year gets underway,

891
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: of course for the Colts coming up this Sunday against

892
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins, Lucas Oil Stadium. On the microphone for

893
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: that with the NFL on CBS. He is a friend

894
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: of this radio station, always good with this time. Charles

895
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: Davis will be on the call for that game. Charles,

896
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time. Let's get right to this as

897
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: you have started to kind of break down and at

898
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, you know, we kind of

899
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: don't know what teams are and who's going to be who.

900
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: But when you look at Indian Apples, what jumps out

901
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: of you is perhaps an area that surprised you of

902
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: either more efficient or more deficient than what you expected

903
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: before you really broke into who they are.

904
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: Oh that's a great, great question. I think surprise isn't

905
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: the proper word, but I think maybe a realization again

906
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 4: once more being reintroduced to the fact that this offense

907
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: has plenty of talent on that side of the ball,

908
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: and I think they've done a nice job over the years.

909
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: You know, I know Chris Baller catches a lot of

910
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: grief for different things, you know how it is as

911
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: a GM, right, But if Ryan Kelly is going to

912
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 4: be gone and Will Fryes, who came on and played

913
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: so well before getting hurt, is also gone, who do

914
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: you have? Well they've drafted in recent years, HANNERBORDERLINI ended

915
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 4: up winning the center job before Danny Pintry even got hurt.

916
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: And you know, Matt is it Gonzalveez, I want to

917
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: make sure I get this correct.

918
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: Does yeah, yeah, thank you.

919
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember for my draft days, all right,

920
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: But Matt Gonzalez, he will have to prove that he

921
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: can play guard because he's been a tackle, but they

922
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: like his potential. And Braden Smith is kind of my

923
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: north star for this. Many thought he was in tackle,

924
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 4: everybody thought he was a guard. He's done quite well

925
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 4: at tackle. So I think the culture, I think they're

926
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 4: doing a really nice job of evaluating these positions. So

927
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: I really like this offensive line potential going in and

928
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: then all the people on the perimeter drafting Tyler Warren,

929
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: having Jonathan Taylor. So of course it comes back to

930
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: everything that we always talk about, right, I mean, there's

931
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: just no getting around it, is there. What kind of

932
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: quarterback play will they get with Daniel Jones becoming their

933
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: new starter?

934
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the you know, here's what I mentioned earlier, Charles,

935
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: and I want you to tell me if this is

936
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: the dumbest sports talk radio armchair quarterback thing you've ever heard, Okay,

937
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: and that is that you know, Daniel Jones is perhaps

938
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: a quarterback that has a more defined ceiling and a

939
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: very clear understanding of that ceiling. But I think I

940
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 2: think if they know that going in, they can cater

941
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: an offense around what he can do and actually be

942
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: reliant on the playmakers to make plays as opposed to

943
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: the quarterback. And they get in danger a little bit

944
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: a year ago with Anthony Richardson of waiting for the

945
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: light to click, and there was just too much inconsistency.

946
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: So you may not have the highs with the Daniel Jones,

947
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: but you have a better understanding of keeping it within

948
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: what the governor wants and just letting it naturally flow.

949
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: And that's what they're going to be reliant upon for him.

950
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: Well, but before I get in my answer, let me

951
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 4: just start with this. We've talked time, you know, number

952
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 4: of times over the years. Dumb has never been a part.

953
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: Of your game.

954
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, and it's not starting now. I think what

955
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: you laid out is a very good blueprints the wrong

956
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: word road maps the wrong word now until proven differently.

957
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: But let's call the supposition. All right, this is how

958
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 4: it could be. Here's where I think the Colts fans

959
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: are sitting on the edge of their seats and thinking

960
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 4: to themselves, could it be more? Because I think with

961
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, we keep coming back to, hey, he doesn't

962
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: push it downfield. Look at his his yards for completion

963
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: or yards per attempts really low. And you know, even

964
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: though Anthony Richards didn't complete a lot of passes when

965
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: he threw it, he threw a downfield and blah blah

966
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. I think you have to go back

967
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: and look at who he was throwing to with the Giants,

968
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: Malice Neighbors wasn't there, Okay, all right, it wasn't that

969
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: type of a wide receiver unit.

970
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: And he made the most of what he could.

971
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: He has more than enough arm. So if all of

972
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: a sudden you look up and Alice Pierce has pierced

973
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 4: the defense, see what I did there?

974
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Well?

975
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 4: And if you look up and Tyler Warren is stretching

976
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: the scenes right, and Josh Downs has shaking someone and

977
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: maybe have the little wheel and gone up field, there's

978
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: plenty of arm there. We might see a little more

979
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: of Daniel Jones than maybe people expected to see. And

980
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 4: I do believe if that happens, Jonathan Taylor will be

981
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 4: in heaven because now thing the field opens up even

982
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 4: more for him, and that's what he needs.

983
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: Is it possible, Charles, that the Colts finally said to

984
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: themselves because of and I don't mean this as a

985
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: knock on Anthony Richardson, but let's just say, because of

986
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: the young inconsistency of Richardson, is it possible that they

987
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: needed to do a redirect at the quarterback position to

988
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: simply be able to itemize properly who they have offensively,

989
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: Because if Michael Pittman Jr. Is going to be a

990
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: long term receiver in the league, if Pierce is actually

991
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: a consistent deep ball threat, if Ady Mitchell can get uncorked.

992
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: You've got to be able to consistently get them the football,

993
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: and this allows them to actually find out what they

994
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: have everywhere else as opposed to the quarterback position.

995
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: Is there a possible that's the thought process.

996
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: Sure, there's a possibility in that. I think more. I'm

997
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: leaning more towards I don't care what you're doing yards

998
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 4: per completion wise. If you're the low fifty percent in

999
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 4: this league throwing the football in twenty twenty five, that's

1000
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 4: just not sustainable.

1001
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: It's just not.

1002
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 4: Tim Tebow was the one mold breaker for a season

1003
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: where he ran Denver into a playoff spot and hit

1004
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: one of the better throws you're ever going to see

1005
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: in the playoffs when he hit Jamarius Tops across the

1006
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: middle against Pitts Pittsburgh. But all in all, what's his

1007
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 4: completion percentage? It's a hard slog, right, It's hard to

1008
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: go like, you know, I'll make it a general comment

1009
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: here because I don't have the stats in front of me.

1010
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Tim was around fifty percent. Is a thrower, Okay.

1011
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 4: It's hard to win every week in this league if

1012
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: your quarterback is five of seventeen going into the fourth quarter. Now,

1013
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: Tim Tebow had a magic to him. We know that.

1014
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: I think he can possess until it's all over for him.

1015
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: There's a magic to him as a person just to

1016
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: match him as a player. But you can't go into

1017
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter expecting, hey, this is going to snap

1018
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: together and he's gonna put together this drive. And he

1019
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: did it often, so he started to think that that's

1020
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 4: just how it was. There isn't a coach alive, a

1021
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 4: head coach alive, and there's not enough pepto bismol tombs

1022
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 4: and whatever else you want to use, may lox whatever

1023
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: that they can live seventeen games on that high wire act.

1024
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: Because you're putting too much pressure on your defense. Unless

1025
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: you have the two thousand Ravens or the eighty five

1026
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: Bears or pick your defenses out there consistently, that's just

1027
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: not going to work for you over time. And that's

1028
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 4: what people knew because remember Denver, you know, hey we've

1029
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 4: made the playoffs.

1030
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: That's great.

1031
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 4: We got get a quarterback and they got Peyton Manning.

1032
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, it's just kind of how that

1033
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: has to work for Anthony Richardson. All of that is there.

1034
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 4: I firmly believe that they thought by now in year three,

1035
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 4: he would have played enough that they could have gotten

1036
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: past a lot of things. But because of his injuries,

1037
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 4: that plan got shot. Does that make sense, Yeah, because

1038
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 4: because he was supposed to play himself into understanding how

1039
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 4: to play the position, because the only thirteen starts at Florida.

1040
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 4: But when you're missing most of your seasons, you see

1041
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 4: where I'm going with this. They did not get that

1042
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: experience they expected to get in terms of on the

1043
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 4: job training, and so now he has to retool. I'm

1044
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 4: like Chris Ballard, I'm not counting him out. He's too young,

1045
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: he's too talented. We've seen too many guys bounce back.

1046
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 4: You're crazy if you don't. We're not even talking about

1047
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: guys who came back as veterans, Doug Williams, Jim Plunkett.

1048
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: Those guys want super Bowls. So let's not count him

1049
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 4: out at all. But for right now, I can understand

1050
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: why the Colts made the move.

1051
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: They did forty seven point nine percent completion percentage for

1052
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow in his career. I think Richardson's like right

1053
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: at fifty one. If I'm not so, yes, and similar

1054
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: prototype of body athleticism etc. Charles Davis is our guest.

1055
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: He'll be on the call Colts and Dolphins coming up

1056
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: week one. Charles, I want to get to this real

1057
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: quick before because I know you're busy. I always ask

1058
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: this at the beginning of the year. It's one of

1059
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: my fun subjects. I'm going to give you three categories,

1060
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: and when I do, I just need you to tell

1061
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: me what team most comes to mind.

1062
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: Okay.

1063
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: Category one the team that we don't talk a lot about.

1064
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: There hasn't been a lot of hype and expectation. They

1065
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: don't jump off the page at you. But around Halloween

1066
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: into November, all of a sudden, we're going to go,

1067
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: are they good? They're like six and three Now, we

1068
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: haven't talked about them at all, and I think they

1069
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: might be good. This is last year's version of say

1070
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. That team this year could be who Seattle?

1071
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

1072
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: Number two is the opposite of that. This is the

1073
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: team that we've talked a lot about. There's some praise,

1074
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of hype about them, some buzz,

1075
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, we may say is not

1076
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: going to take off for them? Like I don't know

1077
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: what's going on, but they're sucking the mud. That team

1078
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: would be who oh, that's.

1079
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 4: A great one. San Francisco potentially.

1080
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

1081
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: And then lastly, now this is my favorite one. This

1082
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: is the what in the heck? I just got an

1083
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: alert that Sam Ellinger is the starter for the rest

1084
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: of the year.

1085
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: And Jeff Saturday is gonna coach.

1086
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not saying literally, I'm saying, if you

1087
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: go back to that season when that happened with the

1088
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: Colts every every year, so this is that honorary year.

1089
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: In other words, the team that all of a sudden,

1090
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: just every door they try to turn, the knob on

1091
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: is locked, and the year just goes haywire and there's

1092
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: turmoil and who in the world expected this? But man,

1093
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: this is just NonStop drama that team is going to be.

1094
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: And you can't say the Dallas Cowboys because this.

1095
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 4: Is the Yeah, that's that's just that's just natural.

1096
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: Right, correct?

1097
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: Ooh, NonStop drama. Everything's just kind of gone haywire. The

1098
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: whole thing's kind of going out of whack. Cleveland's too easy.

1099
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: You can't do that.

1100
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: Sorry, how about the La Chargers?

1101
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I can kind of see that because.

1102
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 4: And I don't and I don't really truly believe it,

1103
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 4: but it's got that type of a you know, if

1104
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 4: anything's going to go haywireing crazy because what they did

1105
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: last year was really impressive with a lot of one

1106
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 4: year contracts right, a lot of bedroom guys, but they

1107
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: still haven't totally solid cap yet, and it made a

1108
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 4: lot of moves that looked pretty good. But I'm telling

1109
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 4: you over Shawn Slater's injury, now you're bounced in all.

1110
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: Now you've got to play tray pit. You see where

1111
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: I'm going with this, and that division is abs because

1112
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: the Raiders are now going to be a legitimate squad. Okay,

1113
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: see Carroll, there's no stands.

1114
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: Or the Raiders was my pick for what you said

1115
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: about Seattle, Like I just I feel like the Raiders

1116
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: are one of those that I like it, you know,

1117
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: And I like Gino Smith. I don't is he you know,

1118
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: is he Doug Williams? Perhaps not? Is he Joe Montana

1119
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: perhaps not? But I think that he can be a

1120
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: perfectly sufficient you know, I like.

1121
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 4: Him, right, I'm with you, And the reason you and

1122
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: I think have landed on it is Pete Carroll is

1123
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 4: proven understands how to win. The teams got a got

1124
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: a good GM with him in John Spytech. They're they're

1125
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: locked in like he was with John Schneider, and there's

1126
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: a there's better talent there than people know. And I

1127
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: like the additions of what they did. Listen drafting Genty.

1128
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: I can hear people don't draft the back. He'll draft

1129
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: the back.

1130
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: I get it.

1131
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, but guess what the way they're going to

1132
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: play draft that?

1133
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it softened some things up elsewhere, right, It gives

1134
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: you like that, it draws things in there all right. Lastly, Charles,

1135
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: in your opinion, and I know that it's very early here,

1136
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: but if you look at it, and this is always

1137
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: of course saying and assuming that that health is not

1138
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: a concern, the ceiling for Indianapolis in your opinion, is

1139
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: what eleven wins.

1140
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, eleven wins. It's a division that you know,

1141
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 4: everyone looks at and thinks that they can get right.

1142
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: I think it's a tougher year to get right because

1143
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: I think Houston last year was ripe to be had.

1144
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 4: Remember they had the rollicking roller coaster of that first year.

1145
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 4: It's just so much fun, right, and the second year,

1146
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 4: everybody challenged them and they were floundering for a while,

1147
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 4: took an eight count and came back and finished the

1148
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,479
Speaker 4: season and won a playoff game. I think that they're

1149
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: now battle tested, So if you're going to go get them,

1150
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: you got to go truly get them now. Like I

1151
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 4: think they're in that echelon now of Hey, we're pretty

1152
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: good and we know it and we know how to

1153
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 4: handle some bumps. Well, let me tell you the vision

1154
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 4: that people can jump up and go get people. I

1155
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: really believe that Daniel Jones plays well. I think this

1156
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 4: is a very talented roster in Indianapolis.

1157
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, go out and get yourself a hat and gloves,

1158
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: because if they win eleven games, we'll put you in

1159
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: the parade in January down Meridian Street.

1160
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 4: Hey, no one wants to see me.

1161
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: Faris bueller?

1162
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: A little twist and shout. Charles appreciated, man. I know

1163
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 2: you're busy. We look forward to the call on Sunday,

1164
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: and I appreciate you squeezing in some time for us.

1165
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 4: Thanks for having time for me. Always great to talk

1166
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 4: with you. You take care of yourself.

1167
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate Charles Davis joining us again. Colts Dolphins Sunday

1168
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Staium, he will be on the call. I

1169
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: totally agree about the Raiders. Seattle's interesting. Seattle is one

1170
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: of those teams that just they never totally fall off, right, See.

1171
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: I thought he was going Los Angeles Rams, not Charge

1172
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: also possible.

1173
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: I think the Chargers, though, you've got to give with

1174
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: and it's not there yet. But Jim Harbaugh does have

1175
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: this weird factor of all of a sudden like everything

1176
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: just he's just an odd dude, right, I like him,

1177
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: but he's an odd dude. And like when when the

1178
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: expiration date hits, it hits.

1179
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: Well, I went from to think of look, Stafford has

1180
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: missed a ton of camp in preseason time. Yes, with

1181
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: the back remark there, right, like if the back injury

1182
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, becomes worse, does he

1183
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: missed time? Next thing you know, they're they're running Jimmy

1184
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: Garoppolo out there? Is that? Who is that? Who their

1185
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: backup is? Yes?

1186
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, I was also thinking, you know who's

1187
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: like the career backup guy, the career backup guys? Who

1188
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: is the proverbial lifetime backup quarterback in the NFL. When

1189
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: I say, like back. I'm gonna Eddie, I'm gonna tell

1190
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 2: and listen. Folks can text me their answer here at two, three, nine,

1191
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: ten seventy okay, right, or on my cell phone number

1192
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: either one. We would love to have you chime in

1193
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: with this answer. Okay, I'm going to I'm going to

1194
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: describe to you a quarterback and I want you to

1195
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: and wait till I'm done, and then I want you

1196
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: to tell me who you're thinking of.

1197
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.

1198
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: This is a quarterback that through the course of his career,

1199
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: in his first five or six years, he's played for

1200
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: three different franchises. He was a spot starter that was

1201
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: given opportunity in week nine in his rookie year, week

1202
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: twelve in his second year, and both times kind of

1203
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: supplied surprisingly threw for like three hundred yards and a

1204
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: touchdown or two and kept his team in it, and

1205
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: people are like, Okay, not familiar with this guy, but okay.

1206
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: Then a franchise came along and gave him an opportunity

1207
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: as a starter. He went out put up some good numbers,

1208
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: but his team was seven and nine. Then the next

1209
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: year they were nine and seven, and then he went

1210
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: back to being journeyman. Backup and when he would have

1211
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: to come in for it, he has a three to

1212
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: four week limit, but he'll throw for massive yards when

1213
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: he comes in there. Donut tire three hundred. He's a

1214
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: donut tire guy. Throws for three hundred yards and four touches,

1215
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: and before you know it, you're like, this guy's thirty

1216
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: nine years old. He's been in the league, and he's

1217
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: played for seven different teams and has accumulated good numbers

1218
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: and made good money, but he's never necessarily made the

1219
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: leap to being a starter, and when they've tried to

1220
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: make him such, it hasn't worked out. But man, is

1221
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: he a good backup and it would. I'm surprised you

1222
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: if he's still on a roster, but you're not positive.

1223
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: Who am I talking about? Ryan Fitzpatrick. Okay, that's that's

1224
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: exactly who Caleb just said. Somebody said Jim Sorgie. Jim

1225
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: Sorgie never really got on the field, though only because

1226
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning didn't give up snaps.

1227
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: Josh McCown, Josh McCown's a good one. Jamis Winston now.

1228
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: Never uh never nervous? Purpose was purvos Helson? What was

1229
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston? What was his nickname? Famous Jamis Famous Jamis, Yeah,

1230
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: thank you. Nobody said the guy that I'm thinking of

1231
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: yet Gardner Minshew Gardner, Minshew's a good one. Colt McCoy

1232
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: not bad. Kobe Brissett. Somebody finally said it here boom.

1233
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is the definitive correct answer,

1234
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: but the guy that I was thinking of because you

1235
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: were talking about the Rams is case Keenum.

1236
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 3: Ah.

1237
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't case Keenum? Like the career backup, I'm good player,

1238
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: but every time they try to put him out there

1239
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: as a starter, you find the ceiling quickly. Somebody says,

1240
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: Mark Malone. All I know about Mark Malone is this,

1241
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: I've heard Mark Malone, who is the former Pittsburgh Steeler quarterback.

1242
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: Mark Malone will occasionally do commentary on like Westwood one games,

1243
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: m H. And I hate to admit this, but my

1244
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: voice sounds exactly like Mark Malone. When Mark Malone is

1245
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: doing a game, I will hear it and I'm like WHOA.

1246
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: And typically when Mark Malone is on the radio, I

1247
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: mean I get whenever he's doing a game, I know it.

1248
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson another good one. Joss Johnson's a good one,

1249
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, Tyrod Taylor.

1250
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: Charlie Whitehurst, clipboard, Jesus Organ, Jesus Steve Berlin. That's a

1251
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: good one. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a poster child Teddy Bridgewater's

1252
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 2: become a big one for this too, Hey, Jake, Mark

1253
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: Malone is a Tom Selleck lookalike.

1254
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1255
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: See, Mark Malone looks like Tom Selleck and sounds like me.

1256
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: Can you imagine a better double dose of sexiness than that? Gosh,

1257
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that is genetic lottery for this guy. Somebody

1258
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: says to Mark Malone, do you like the fact that

1259
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: your initials are the same as a popular candy? Oh,

1260
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: that's fine. Do you like the fact that you were

1261
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: the quarterback for one of the most historic franchises in

1262
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steels.

1263
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: That's cool.

1264
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: Do you like the fact that you get to do

1265
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 2: games on the radio and get paid to travel around

1266
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: watching NFL games?

1267
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: That's fun?

1268
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: What about the fact you look like Tom Selleck? Good

1269
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: mustache itches sometimes? What about the fact you sound like

1270
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: Jay Quit? Now we're talking, That's exactly what Mark Malone

1271
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: would say. Let's go right. Shane Steichen did talk earlier

1272
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: about the quarterbacking situation with Daniel Jones now taking the

1273
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: snaps and we know this that it's going to be

1274
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: this way for the year, and I do think that.

1275
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: It is.

1276
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: Certainly worth looking at, as we just talked about, say,

1277
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: with Charles Davis. And by the way, you can catch

1278
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: Charles along with Andrew Catalan a J Ross this Sunday,

1279
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: as I mentioned on CBS Colts and Dolphins.

1280
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: But you should love your voice.

1281
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: Well that's Kevin Harlan, right, I know. David Letterman also

1282
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: once told me I had a fabulous radio voice. I

1283
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: hate my voice actually, but Mark Malone probably.

1284
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: Likes that you pivoted too quickly. I was trying to

1285
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: pull it up as you were talking about you know

1286
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: your voice and everything that's right, Well, I pivot quickly.

1287
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Speaker 2: That's one of the things when I was a low

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Speaker 2: post player that the coaches loved is how quickly I

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Speaker 2: can pivot. But Shane Steichen was talking about Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: and I think that when you look at and I

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Speaker 2: mentioned it earlier and talking with Charles Davis about it,

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Speaker 2: I don't think in any way, shape or form that

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Speaker 2: when you look at Daniel Jones that you get overly.

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Speaker 2: You know it doesn't come with the flash, the glitz

1295
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: and glamour that Anthony Richardson does. That goes without saying.

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Speaker 2: The ceiling is probably not as high to use that buzzword. However,

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Speaker 2: you do get I think, a better understanding to an

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Speaker 2: extent of what you're getting into. Shane Stiken talked earlier

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Speaker 2: and elaborated on going into week one what it is

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Speaker 2: exactly that he wants to see from Daniel Jones now

1301
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: that this is of course his selection at starter.

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Speaker 5: With him, I'm excited for his opportunity, stay steady, find completions,

1303
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 5: keep us on track, you know what I mean. And

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 5: at that position, that's what it is. It's finding completions,

1305
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 5: moving the football and not mak him by plays worse.

1306
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 5: And I talked about the operation. Feel very confident in

1307
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 5: his operation at the line of scrimmage, getting this sent

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Speaker 5: and out of the right place, and I know the

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Speaker 5: team feels confident in.

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Speaker 1: That as well.

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01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I think there's something to be deciphered here. He

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Speaker 2: also went on and I'll go back to that, but

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Speaker 2: he also talked about just the overall opportunity now for

1314
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and what this means because this is a

1315
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: chance for him to show that what happened in New

1316
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: York was maybe more on New York than Daniel Jones.

1317
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: Shane Stikeen on the opportunity of proving it for Daniel.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, a new environment, new opportunity for him to

1319
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 5: go and prove it.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 5: He's had success in this league. He's had his ups

1322
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 5: and down, like I said, but it's a great opportunity

1323
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: for him on Sunday in this season to go prove it.

1324
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Speaker 2: What's interesting is when you look at what he talked

1325
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: about and what he wants to see from Jones. What

1326
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: he is saying there is things like moving the ball,

1327
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: putting the football in the right place, not turning a

1328
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 2: bad play into a worse play operation at the line.

1329
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: These are the things that Shane Stikeen has been screaming

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: to us from day one, and it's almost like we

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: didn't want to listen to it. And what I mean

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Speaker 2: by that is he is making it clear.

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Speaker 1: I need.

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Speaker 2: A I just simply need somebody to keep their hands

1335
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: on the wheel. I don't want someone that's weaving in

1336
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: and out of traffic. I need somebody that knows when

1337
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: it's time to just simply pull over to the side

1338
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: and let traffic run itself out. I need better decision making.

1339
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 2: I don't think that Shane Stiken looks at the Colts

1340
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: offense and looks at the weapons on their offense and

1341
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: looks at Michael Pittman Jr. And looks at Tyler Warren

1342
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: and looks at Josh Downs and looks at Adie Mitchell,

1343
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: and looks at Alec Pierce, and looks at Jonathan Taylor,

1344
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: and looks at Tyler Goodson and looks at the players

1345
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: that he has there. I don't think Shane Steiken looks

1346
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: at that and says, what we need here is a

1347
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: guy that is able to create. I think he is saying, look,

1348
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: we have all of the pieces there to create for them.

1349
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:55,839
Speaker 2: I need somebody that is situational and understands the canvas

1350
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: in front of them and knows that they have all

1351
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: the colors they need, all of the paint brushes they need,

1352
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: and all of the visuals they need. We just needed

1353
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: to put it on the canvas. And I think they

1354
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: saw in Richardson they are intrigued by still what the

1355
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: possibility is because of his God given talents. But I

1356
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: think that Shane Steichen is screaming to everybody and doing

1357
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: everything but putting it on that billboard on four sixty

1358
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: five on the northwest side that's the most seen in

1359
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: Indianapolis that I think is still paying tribute to Julia Reagan,

1360
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: rest her soul. But the I think what he is

1361
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 2: saying to all of us is I don't need right

1362
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: now the guy that is going to hit the home

1363
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 2: run from time to time, because we have enough pieces

1364
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: here that simple base hits are going to get runs

1365
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: across the plate for us. And that's what he's hoping

1366
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: to see out of Daniel Jones, operational, situational and understanding

1367
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: of limitation and not trying to break through that barrier.

1368
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: And if Daniel Jones is able to do that and

1369
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: is able to move the football with bass hits instead

1370
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 2: of the occasional home run, then I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to be okay because they have a good defense and

1372
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: they do have good pieces in balance. They don't have

1373
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: anything that blows you away, per se, but they have

1374
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 2: good balance across their roster. And I still believe they

1375
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: have the make and maybe I'm listen, I am welcoming

1376
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: the city of Indianapolis to tell me I am the

1377
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: biggest moron on the planet. But I truly do think

1378
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 2: they could go ten and seven. I'm going to go

1379
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: with ten and seven, and that's we're factoring in health

1380
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: because you never know with injury. You know that if

1381
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor and DeForest Buckner and Zaire Franklin and Nick

1382
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: Cross all get hurt in week one, you know, Okay, fine,

1383
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: I get it then, But I think if barring major

1384
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: injury across the board, they the pieces to be better

1385
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 2: than people think. The problem is, then you're kind of

1386
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 2: stuck in that middle where it's hard to get out

1387
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 2: of that ten and seven, eleven and six, nine and eight,

1388
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 2: eight and nine range.

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to get out of that.

1390
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: Indiana against Old dominion impressive to an extent, but was

1391
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Speaker 2: their area for concern. Our friend from the Bloomington Herald Times,

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Speaker 2: Mike joins us. Next, So we know that Purdue got

1393
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: a big win on Saturday over ball State and listen

1394
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: for the Boilers. And I mean, this is no disrespect

1395
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: to ball State, Perdue anything. I mean Purdue is we

1396
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: don't know what Barry odem has, right. I mean, that's

1397
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: an almost entirely new roster, a lot of new faces there,

1398
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: and what you wanted to see from Purdue, I think,

1399
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 2: and understandably so was simply what they are kind of preaching,

1400
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: which is just a more disciplined, laden, hard nose, you know,

1401
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: smart football, and I think Produce showed that. Now for

1402
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: the Boilers, you and Indiana both it is hard to

1403
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: know what a team is after one game, and especially

1404
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: before you get into the thick of the schedule. But

1405
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: Indiana in particular, you know, Kurt Signetti has made no

1406
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: bones about the fact that this is the way we're

1407
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: going to do it. The SEC model of scheduling. You

1408
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: start out with Old Dominion, then Kennesaws State and Indiana State,

1409
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: and then boom, reality hits because you get Illinois, you

1410
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: get Iwall, you get Oregon right out of the box.

1411
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: But let's talk about ODU and Indiana and what was

1412
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: good or bad for the Hoosiers if we can even

1413
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 2: determine either. Joining us now on the always busy and

1414
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: available for your company to sponsor guest line he is

1415
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 2: with the Bloomington Herald Times. I know that it's not

1416
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: the telephone Bloomington Herald Times. Our friend from Bloomington, Mike,

1417
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: joins us on the program Mike, let's begin right away

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Speaker 2: with that, and that is when you were able to

1419
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 2: assess this Indiana team. What was a questionquestion that you

1420
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: had going in that you felt like you got a

1421
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 2: better answer on after game number one?

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Speaker 6: An interesting question. I mean I thought, look, the veterans

1423
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 6: all kind of acclimated and there was no sort of

1424
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 6: I mean, you talk about giving the first big run

1425
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 6: and you know there was no panic. This is a

1426
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 6: very laden team. And even though I think they struggled,

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 6: this wasn't a team that kind of lost itself like

1428
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 6: they were. You know, they respotted each time right the

1429
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 6: punt return. You know, they had the run zone struggles,

1430
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 6: but they still put together long drives like nothing snowballed. Yeah,

1431
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 6: it didn't look great, didn't look perfect, but I think

1432
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 6: you saw kind of the leadership. You saw sort of

1433
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 6: all the veteran presence on both sides of the ball that, look,

1434
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 6: we're going to get this done, even though maybe it

1435
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 6: doesn't look quite as pretty.

1436
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: Do you if there was an area Mike that an

1437
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: open disclaimer, I didn't see the game live, right. I

1438
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: went back and I watched highlights of it and looked

1439
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 2: at the box score and et cetera. A little bit

1440
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: name I realized, but I was working a race this weekend.

1441
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: But I saw the vast majority of it, and it's

1442
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: easy to say, well, I mean, yeah, they gave up

1443
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: a big run right at the beginning. This idiot's going

1444
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: to say the run defense. Look, but it seemed like

1445
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: they were susceptible to at times chunk yardage plays. Now

1446
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: does that mean nitpicking from afar or is that an

1447
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: accurate area of concern?

1448
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 6: Well, it was too basically that was a book under

1449
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,879
Speaker 6: the game with the long runs. I think what's concerning

1450
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 6: about it is that, you know, the lasting image of

1451
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 6: the last game last year was the long run they

1452
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 6: gave up. I know that wasn't a quarterback, but Jeremi

1453
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 6: Love obviously with the touchdown run. That sort of changed

1454
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 6: that complexion of that game. And you know, you do

1455
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 6: it right at the start in Week one. That's a concern.

1456
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 6: And then the other part of it is that you're

1457
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 6: going to face mobile quarterbacks here, you know, five or

1458
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 6: six times this season, and so with all those guys

1459
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 6: on your schedule, when your quarterback run defense shows some

1460
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,440
Speaker 6: significant issues, even though you know, you know, really relegated

1461
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 6: to two plays I do think it's a concern. You

1462
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 6: got to get it cleaned up, You got to get

1463
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 6: it fixed just because of what you've you know, you've

1464
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 6: now shown those teams kind of on your schedule like,

1465
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 6: hey there's an opening here. We got to prove that

1466
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 6: we can can stop those things. You'll get another chance

1467
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 6: this weekend against Kennesaw State. But I mean you have

1468
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 6: a couple of those in the Big Ten as well,

1469
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,839
Speaker 6: and so you got to be you know, Ryan Leonard

1470
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 6: really hurt them last year. They couldn't you know, get

1471
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 6: him down and then and then obviously they allow the

1472
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 6: big run. But I just think it's a you don't

1473
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 6: want it to be a symptom of a larger problem.

1474
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 6: And you know, obviously you can't be happy when you

1475
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 6: give up to you know, look as many seventy plus

1476
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 6: yards as they gave up all last season. So you know,

1477
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 6: not great in one game, what.

1478
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: Did you think of for Nanda Mendoza, Uh, you.

1479
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 6: Know you saw he made he makes the beautiful throw

1480
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,440
Speaker 6: to Omar Cooper Junior. You know, fifty plus yards effortless

1481
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 6: and you know Cooper drops. It doesn't help them out,

1482
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 6: But I mean in that moment, you kind of saw like,

1483
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 6: oh yeah, this guy can make all these throws. I

1484
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 6: think what you also saw was a quarterback that maybe

1485
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 6: he's getting used to having time in the pocket. You know,

1486
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 6: how many times did he get his to his fourth

1487
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 6: option last year at Cal when he was sacked forty times?

1488
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 6: You know, he was thinking one read to read quick

1489
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 6: quick outs, you know, and doing a lot of those things,

1490
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 6: better aggressions, getting the ball to his targets. I think

1491
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 6: he saw start in the third quarter a little bit.

1492
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 6: You know, he got people involved because I mean everything

1493
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 6: in the first court first half really was to EJ. Williams,

1494
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 6: you know, five or five catches and Surat didn't have any,

1495
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 6: and so, you know, I think it's a work in

1496
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 6: progress a little bit. I kind of assumed, you know, look,

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Speaker 6: yes he has you know, basically a season and a

1498
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 6: half of experienced but Curtis Rore came in with like

1499
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 6: five years of practice under his belt and multiple years

1500
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 6: of starting beyond just just you know, one full season,

1501
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 6: like he was a more fully formed product. I think

1502
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 6: Mendoza has the higher ceiling with his arm, but I

1503
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 6: do think you know, these are almost like a preseason here,

1504
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 6: ramping up until we get to Illinois, and I think

1505
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 6: it's good experience he gets in this offense, and I

1506
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 6: think he'll look better here. And you know, three weeks,

1507
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 6: three four weeks. But I kind of maybe expected a

1508
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 6: little bit of what we say all just because you know,

1509
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 6: this was a new you know, completely new system from

1510
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 6: new offensive line. He's got to get used to. You know,

1511
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 6: you pick up some bad habits when you're running for

1512
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 6: your life every snap.

1513
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: Do you more commonly refer to yourself as Michael or

1514
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: Mike Mike Gang Because I noticed your bylines, you know,

1515
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 2: your professional things are Michael. I wanted to be respectful

1516
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 2: of which way you prefer to be addressed.

1517
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 6: It's it's it's I really don't nitpick, but Mike is

1518
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,879
Speaker 6: probably the more common. But yes, everything on my byelines

1519
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 6: is Michael.

1520
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: Again, Michael, better known as Mike to his friends and family,

1521
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: which we consider ourselves both from the Herald Times in

1522
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: Bloomington talking about Indiana football here on the guest line, Mike,

1523
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 2: when you look at the Big Ten in general, because

1524
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's just so fascinating now with

1525
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 2: college football right out of the box. You've got, you know,

1526
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: in Clemson and LSU. You know, that one of a

1527
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: top five team is going to lose. That happened to

1528
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: be Clemson, Ohio State, Texas, same thing, Texas on the

1529
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 2: short end, Notre Dame, Miami, Notre Dames down one. But yeah,

1530
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 2: with the twelve team playoff, now you already here in September,

1531
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: start keeping an eye on it. The Big Ten has

1532
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: kind of power played this of creating the narrative of

1533
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 2: multiple Big Ten teams and et cetera. How many this

1534
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: year do you think the Big Ten? Really? What is

1535
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: the number? I don't mean the teams. What's the number

1536
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: you think the Big Ten could get in?

1537
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 6: Four? Yeah? I mean that's that's the number I believe. Yeah.

1538
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: Okay, so those four you're looking at it and you say,

1539
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Ohio State pretty safe, Penn State pretty safe

1540
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: barring disasters here, right, I think you'd say Oregon. Right, Yes,

1541
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: Indiana's right in that mix. So they going into it,

1542
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: they may be approaching things differently psychologically than a year

1543
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: ago in what way because a year ago, I don't

1544
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 2: know that anybody was talking Indiana college football. Maybe kurtz

1545
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: Signetti behind closed doors, but nobody nationally was. How is

1546
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: Indiana handling that sort of a national Diskinson attention or microscope.

1547
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 6: Well, I think they were. I mean, they were basically

1548
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 6: in that eye of the storm at the end of

1549
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 6: last year when people kind of uh you know, kind

1550
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 6: of Michigan on were kind of every.

1551
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: Week Well I know, but I mean, but just in

1552
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: terms of the outset of the season, I mean, like

1553
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,879
Speaker 2: this particular year, this September looks different than the last September.

1554
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 6: How But my point is I think that prepared them

1555
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 6: for being like they've literally been the topic of discussions

1556
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 6: since then, right, and so they've kind of had to

1557
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 6: deal with all of that, and so they had to

1558
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 6: play under that and obviously, you know, responded beat Michigan

1559
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 6: and then crushed Purdue to even get in the playoffs.

1560
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 6: So I think you saw a little of that and

1561
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 6: it hasn't sort of stopped, and so like, I don't

1562
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 6: think they are foreign to it. And also, uh, you know,

1563
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 6: the JMU kids were ten and oh I believe the

1564
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 6: year before. So like, I mean, the core of this,

1565
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 6: I think team has dealt with a little bit of that.

1566
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 6: And obviously he brought some transfers that you know, Patkugan

1567
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 6: had Notre Dame guy that knows how to play sort

1568
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 6: of under that spotlight and expectation. So I do think

1569
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 6: this team is probably more prepared than they were, maybe

1570
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 6: even even last year as they sort of faced that,

1571
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 6: because you know, there's a lot to put on a team.

1572
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 6: But now they've sort of had the run up and

1573
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 6: I think there's mostly sort of turned it off. I

1574
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 6: know a lot of the guys talks about kind of

1575
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 6: deleting social media and kind of ignoring all that that

1576
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 6: conversation and not paying any attention to it, and I

1577
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 6: think they've used it more as fuel in terms of, like, look,

1578
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 6: because most of the stuff has been questioning whether Indiana

1579
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 6: blongs right and people saying they don't. I don't think

1580
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 6: it's been flowers they've been getting for being part of

1581
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 6: the playoff picture. It's been quite the opposite, like people

1582
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 6: question their schedule, people calling them a fluke, And these

1583
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 6: are a lot of guys that weren't heavily recruited, you know,

1584
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 6: felt ignored for by power for teams, and they've sort

1585
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 6: of added this to be like, look, we need to

1586
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 6: prove them wrong. And so you know, I don't think

1587
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 6: that the uneven performance I don't sort of attribute to

1588
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 6: that part of it like dealing with expectations. Like, I

1589
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 6: think that part they'll be fine. I just think this

1590
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 6: was a new team that you know, obviously didn't get

1591
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 6: anything right in week one, but it's gonna when, you know,

1592
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 6: come back and try to get it fixed. But no,

1593
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 6: to your point, I think it's a team that will

1594
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 6: be able to sort of handle the spotlight when it comes,

1595
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 6: you know. I think that it's gonna be huge that

1596
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 6: Illinois Indiana game on the tour twentieth. I mean, that'll

1597
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 6: be a real big point, you know, uh, get talked

1598
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 6: up because Illinois obviously he's getting kind of some of

1599
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 6: the you know, chatter about being the next Indiana. Then

1600
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 6: in two weeks after that, the organ game. Those are

1601
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 6: big moments that I think they'll be able to handle.

1602
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: Hey, what kind of dude is Kurt Signetti? I mean

1603
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: we know what he's like as a coach, you know,

1604
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 2: but what, like I assume you've been around him a

1605
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 2: little bit, what kind of dude is he?

1606
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 6: I mean, he is what he is, right Like, I mean,

1607
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 6: I don't think anything that he does is for show,

1608
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 6: right like, I mean, like it's he's the you're getting

1609
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 6: the genuine article when he's at the podium. And this

1610
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 6: is basically, you know, from what I've been told, how

1611
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 6: he's been his entire career. And you know, I know

1612
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 6: people have covered him in the past, and you know,

1613
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 6: he said he's a film guy. Like he's not lying.

1614
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 6: Like when I've I've interviewed him, sat down and he

1615
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 6: you know, kind of pulled up his computer and showed

1616
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 6: me what he was doing. And it's like film like

1617
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 6: it's it's it's just you know, he goes through it

1618
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 6: and sorts all this stuff and spends hours on it.

1619
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 6: I mean, that's just that's what he is.

1620
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: Hey, what do you think of the Mike Nize, Like,

1621
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: as our guest from the Bloomington Herald Times, what did

1622
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 2: you think of the Bison? It's the debut of the Bison.

1623
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

1624
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 6: I mean, it's did a nice job with the production

1625
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 6: of it. I'm with the plane. I don't know if

1626
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 6: you saw the you know, the the replay of him

1627
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 6: flying on the plane that's around.

1628
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1629
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so you know, one of the things it

1630
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 6: ties back to, honestly, what Kurtz they said about improving

1631
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 6: the atmosphere and giving people you know, he shotted the

1632
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 6: fans for leaving it halftime. But the idea of giving

1633
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 6: people a reason to stay, giving kids a reason to stay,

1634
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 6: all that ties in. You're trying to you know, improve

1635
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 6: the you know, be with the big boys and and

1636
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 6: and you know, it seems silly that a mascot would

1637
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 6: be part of that, but it is. It's it's the

1638
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 6: atmosphere making it, you know, giving fans the reason to

1639
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 6: come and and and get loud and do things, and

1640
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 6: that just adds all to it.

1641
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: You know, kids can join the Who's Your Buddies? Uh,

1642
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 2: the Who's Your Bison Buddies Club?

1643
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 1: Eddie?

1644
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 2: Would you like to join the Hoo's Your Bison Buddies Club?

1645
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm not a kid, I know, as much as you

1646
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: like I think I am.

1647
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm a big fan of mascots and

1648
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 2: like they give out T shirts and the whole deal.

1649
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 2: You think I could rig it? Just sign up for it.

1650
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 2: Be a I'd like to be a Hoo's Your Bison Buddy?

1651
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: Mike.

1652
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Do you have kids? Are theyre Who's your Bison Buddy?

1653
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 6: I do have kids, They're not Who's your Bison Buddies? Yet? Yeah?

1654
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: Oh yet? Yes? Yeah, that's right.

1655
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 6: We'll see, we'll see what the bison does. We'll see

1656
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 6: how he does. They're gonna wait, you gotta look at

1657
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 6: them films.

1658
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: The bison's here for the long haul though, right they're not.

1659
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: They're not packing in early on the bison. He's here

1660
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: for good.

1661
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 6: You know, we'll see I go. Well, if they had

1662
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 6: lost that game, I don't know, does he go right

1663
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 6: the plan?

1664
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: Like like in like seventy eight or whatever it was.

1665
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: They brought the bison out for like three weeks. He

1666
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: had a big nose ring, and then all of a

1667
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: sudden he went back to whatever band he was with.

1668
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: We never heard from you.

1669
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 6: You never know. He said that he could change his mind.

1670
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: Apparently he liked a roam. Well, we get a life

1671
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 1: bison at one point, that'd be awesome.

1672
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,799
Speaker 2: But Colorado's kind of Colorado's kind. I've got the market

1673
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: on that, unfortunately, but that's a buffalo, not a bison.

1674
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: Right all right, Mike, we appreciate the time as always. Man,

1675
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: look forward to talking to you again.

1676
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 6: Absolutely, guys, thanks for having me.

1677
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: Mike Nisilik joining us from the Bloomington Herald Times. I

1678
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: think you know when they say that who's your bison

1679
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 2: Buddies Club? It of course, reminds me of Buddy's.

1680
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: Buddy my Body.

1681
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 2: No, first that I in like the year two thousand,

1682
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 2: First that I decided to go to a Reds game.

1683
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: And so he picks me up to go to the

1684
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 2: Reds game and I walk out and he looks at me,

1685
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: and I look at him and boy, and we were

1686
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: wearing the exact same shorts and exact same T shirt.

1687
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 2: We looked like twins. It was horrifically embarrassing. So I

1688
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: think one of us we stopped at like the Walmart

1689
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: and Batesville on the way down and bought a different

1690
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: colored T shirt. So then we go to the Reds game,

1691
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 2: and we decide that we're going to do a nightcap

1692
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: by going by driving across the Louisville and going to

1693
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 2: the Louisville river Bats game, which sounded like a good

1694
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: idea until about halfway across sixty four and we're like,

1695
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 2: we're tired. So we go and we're slow, and we

1696
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: go to the Louisville river Bats game. And my favorite

1697
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: story of all time that I've told they the river

1698
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: Bats had a mascot named Buddy Buddy the Bat. Now

1699
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 2: he's a bat, Like, yeah, that's exactly what it except

1700
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: for its now you would think because they're the Louisville Bats,

1701
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: like Louisville slugger, that like it's a wooden bat.

1702
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: No, it's like a flying bat.

1703
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 2: Right, So Buddy the bat has some little bit he

1704
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 2: does where he takes a go kart and he does

1705
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: laps around the outfield, which was pretty exciting and fun

1706
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 2: during the seventh inning stretch. But he went a little

1707
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: hot in the left field and the left side rubber

1708
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 2: touched the touch the warning track, causing a massive flip.

1709
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: And this this bat and kids are in the crowd, right,

1710
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: and they're agast in horror as this literally all of

1711
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: a sudden, this go krt goes flying through the air

1712
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: and Buddy is you know, you could see like one

1713
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: little wing flap and then Buddy lands, which is he

1714
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: looked to be okay until the go kart landed on

1715
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,759
Speaker 2: top of him, leading to and aghast of horror amongst

1716
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: the twelve hundred fans in attendance and snickering from two

1717
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 2: people that are wearing the same colored shorts and myself

1718
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 2: and Day first and for whatever reason, we found this

1719
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: and then they came over the loud speaker and said,

1720
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: and I quote, don't worry kids, buddies buddies on his

1721
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 2: way and this some college in turn that more waddled

1722
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 2: than ran had to work his way out to the

1723
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 2: outfield and then lift the go kart up over and

1724
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 2: then the like broken winged bat had to limp his

1725
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: way back to the dugout. And this is literally and

1726
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 2: this is a sign of my maturation. This is the

1727
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: first time in a quarter century I've told that story

1728
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: without breaking into like absolute complete tear covered.

1729
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Laughter, not even a giggle.

1730
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 2: I know, well, I've told the story so many times,

1731
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 2: but it was awesome.

1732
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Story about Michael Young and the plane incident. Though you'll

1733
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: be able to contain yourself.

1734
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 7: Ever, don't worry kids, buddies, buddies, buddies, buddies on its

1735
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 7: way out and like kids are sheer horror and terror,

1736
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 7: and Dave and I are slap happy and justay, okay,

1737
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 7: that first might actually now be a member of the

1738
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 7: Hooser Bison Buddies Club, just based on the fact if

1739
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 7: I send him this picture that the Hooser Bison Buddies

1740
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 7: Club is taking members, he'll immediately think a buddy's buddy.

1741
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: I guarantee it. Then the flapping wing. Do it?

1742
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 2: I will, I'll sit it to him right now and

1743
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 2: see what he says. Matt Berderan, by the way, in

1744
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: just over ten, you know the Hoosier The Hoosier Bison

1745
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 2: Buddies Club. They have two membership groups, Eddie Cream and Crimson.

1746
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Which one would you like for me to sign up for?

1747
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: You now? The Crimson Club you get it looks like

1748
01:29:53,960 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 2: you get a Buddies Club tailgate member hailgate, but they

1749
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: get the kids out there tailgating. Who's your Bison Buddies

1750
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Club rally towel? You get with the Cream membership.

1751
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 1: Saying Cream on the radio sounds inappropriate.

1752
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 2: You get to meet who's your the Bison and a

1753
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: meet and greet. Well, that sounds fun, right, shake hooves shacobs,

1754
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah uh. You get exclusive who's your Bison Buddies Club

1755
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 2: goodies like sunglasses, a water bottle and a wristband.

1756
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:27,839
Speaker 1: Who's your Bison?

1757
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 7: Now?

1758
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: If you do the Cream membership, you get a membership badge,

1759
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 2: a T shirt, free admission to Olympic Sports and hoo's

1760
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 2: your Bison Buddies Club tour?

1761
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Well, you're leaving out a part of the difference between

1762
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: the two Jake.

1763
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 2: One's free and one's not. Right there, you go, yeah,

1764
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 2: well that, I'll sign you up for the freebie. You

1765
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: just don't get I don't think you get to bump hoofs.

1766
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: But other than that, everything's good.

1767
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1768
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm all in on the bison. I'm cool with it.

1769
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 2: Like when he came, when he skydied, I'm like, okay,

1770
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 2: this is cool.

1771
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 1: Now it's worth noting, Jake that tailgate is only against

1772
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: kannesas state.

1773
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: What sort of tailgating do they have for the members

1774
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 2: of the Hoo's Your Bison Buddies Club? Do they serve bison?

1775
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 2: That would seem cannibalistic? I would think, you know, well,

1776
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 2: it's kind of.

1777
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Like the State Fair. You go from the swine Bar

1778
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, there's all this pork right outside

1779
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: the swine Bar Fair.

1780
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Yes, there has to be a separation of reality, a

1781
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: suspension of reality.

1782
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 7: There.

1783
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: Uh, the the Hoo's Your Bison Buddies Club. The tailgate

1784
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: for the kiddies. What do they have like unlimited little debbies?

1785
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: Is it sponsored by or is it more like the

1786
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Peanuts characters and it's sponsored by Dolly Madison snack cakes.

1787
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm down with it. Now, if you're looking at mascots

1788
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten, and you know that, I've got

1789
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 2: to I love mascots. The high art a Big ten mascots. Okay,

1790
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 2: here we go.

1791
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: You ready.

1792
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: We could do this fairly quickly with Ohio State. You

1793
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 2: obviously got what's the fellows named Brutus? Yes, Brutus, and

1794
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: he's boorish?

1795
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

1796
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 2: Then Michigan, do they have a wolverine? I don't think so?

1797
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 2: Is Chief Alion? I weck they he went away on vacation, right,

1798
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 2: and he's not come back. I think Chief Ali I

1799
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: wec has been. He's retired, he lives in a retirement home.

1800
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 2: He's gone at Illinois. What's the fellaw's name? The gopher?

1801
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 2: Is there a gopher? Does he have a name?

1802
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: They do have a gopher?

1803
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 2: Look up his name? I bet it's Goldie Goldie the Gophers.

1804
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: My guess, the Hawkeye, it is Goldie the go Is

1805
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: it really Goldie the gopher?

1806
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 6: Heck?

1807
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Then the hawkeye, what's his name? Does he

1808
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 2: have a name? I mean, he's okay, but he's just

1809
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: kind of a you know, he's got a herky excuse

1810
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 2: me herky. Yeah, he's off the list. Right there, Me

1811
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 2: the Hawk. Okay, then you got Purdue Pete, right, pretty Pete, solid,

1812
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. Uh, Bucky the Badger, right, he's good.

1813
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 2: I got no problem with him. What's Northwestern? What's the

1814
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 2: wildcat's name? He's okay, does he have a name, I'll

1815
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: look it up. Okay, I'd like to know.

1816
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean Willie the Wildcat. Excuse me, Willy? I mean

1817
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: that's his head doesn't fit his shoulders. He's a mascot.

1818
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 1: What what are you getting?

1819
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 2: We're getting into dimensions like tiny? Look who's talking? Hell,

1820
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 2: you're like pretty Pete over there. Hey, there's no shame

1821
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 2: in my game. You and your nine and three a's head? Okay?

1822
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

1823
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 2: The Oregon Duck. It goes without saying. I mean that's

1824
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 2: you know, you're you're looking at the very top there.

1825
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: You don't like cream again, But I'll say crim to

1826
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: La crim on the Oregon Duck. Washington Husky. Do they

1827
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 2: they don't have a guy?

1828
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Do they?

1829
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 2: Herky the husky or something? I don't forget about. Sparty, Oh, Sparty,

1830
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: that's a good one. Already goes without saying. Harry the Husky,

1831
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 2: Harry the Husky not bad. I'm down with that. That's

1832
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm okay with Harry. Okay, then usc does

1833
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 2: the Trojan have a name? He just rides around on

1834
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 2: a horse, right.

1835
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: But it's a live guy, right, Traveler. Excuse me, that's

1836
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: the name of the maskot Traveler. Yeah, I mean I

1837
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: get the point there.

1838
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 2: But now and then the Bruin does he have a name?

1839
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 2: The Bruin's not bad, I think in the hierarchy here,

1840
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Bruin. Joe, Are you serious?

1841
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 6: His name is.

1842
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Joe Joe Brewin?

1843
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1844
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: What is the origin there?

1845
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 4: What?

1846
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 2: Like? Is there a guy Joe? I mean, do they

1847
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 2: have a contest at the Perkins of bel Air? And

1848
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 2: some guy named Joe came up with it in nineteen

1849
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 2: forty eight? Because the cow bear in the UCLA brewin

1850
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 2: both our uniforms that the mascot outfits look like they

1851
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 2: bought him in a garage sale like seventy four years ago.

1852
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: The cow bear is flat out creepy looking. And this

1853
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 2: is cal Berkeley is one of the most prestigious universities

1854
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 2: in America, and their mascot is terrible. I mean, he's

1855
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 2: kind of fun because he's so he looks like an

1856
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 2: old style teddy Bear, which is kind of cool, but

1857
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 2: there's an element of creepy to it. Did you did

1858
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 2: you look up the origin of you said Joe the

1859
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: Bruin like Joe average? Does he drink a lot of coffee?

1860
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 2: Is that what's going on there?

1861
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

1862
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 2: I think automatically who's your Bison and his buddies are

1863
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 2: Laphene and Joe Brewin.

1864
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Justphine and Joe Brewing. They're a married couple.

1865
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 2: I think Who's your Bison is automatically wedging himself right

1866
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 2: in the middle of the pack at the very least.

1867
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 2: Ducks up there got decapitated over the weekend. That was

1868
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 2: rough for the kids, but the Oregon duck is high

1869
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 2: on the list. Predue Pete goes without saying until they

1870
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: redid Predue Pete that one year, and that lasted about

1871
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 2: as long as that seventies bison. I'm just telling you,

1872
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: Todd Myers walk down walks in. It means I'm about

1873
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 2: to get shastised over our mascot talk. And it's probably

1874
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 2: a good idea because Matt Verdram joins us and does

1875
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 2: so next.

1876
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, I don't know what.

1877
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 2: To think of the fact that in our time together,

1878
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 2: that's the best audio Eddie Garrison can come up with

1879
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 2: to commemorate the fact that it is, in fact, like

1880
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 2: a completely meaningless birthday. I mean, I don't every birthday

1881
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 2: is meaningful, but fifty three doesn't rank where like fifty

1882
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 2: or sixty or you know that. I'm at the point

1883
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,719
Speaker 2: now where it's just the decades only. But in fact,

1884
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 2: thank you to everybody who has wished me a happy birthday.

1885
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 2: It is greatly appreciated. And I am well aware of

1886
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: the fortunes you know of kind of living the dream

1887
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: truth be told and with me, that's right, that's the

1888
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 2: biggest fortune ever. It is the why win the one

1889
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 2: billion power ball where you can spend a day with

1890
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 2: me every day? Yeah, well, I can tell you not

1891
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 2: that I've done the numbers, but it would be three

1892
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve million dollars after taxes that you walk

1893
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 2: away with, and that would probably mean that Eddie, you're

1894
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 2: hosting on Wednesday or Thursday or whatever day after the drawing.

1895
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I do appreciate everybody listening to this show

1896
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: and making that every day possible for us, joining us

1897
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 2: now on the program on the always busy guest line.

1898
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Of course, he is with Sports Illustrated. We talk a

1899
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 2: lot of football with him, and he is a huge

1900
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 2: fan of the Taco Bell Cantina. We've talked about that downtown.

1901
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 2: Matt Verderram joining us on the show. Matt, how are you?

1902
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 3: I'd be better if I wasn't a Taco Bell CANTEENA

1903
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:32,679
Speaker 3: but I'm fine. How are you doing?

1904
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 1: We're good? Thank you. Listen.

1905
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 2: I'm going to begin right right out of the box

1906
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 2: with this. I'm very curious of the national perspective here

1907
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: because I feel like and I fear, and I want

1908
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 2: you to tell me if I'm wrong. I worry that

1909
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 2: the Colts have actually become this franchise that you know,

1910
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 2: we put in the same category as like the Arizona

1911
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: Cardinals or the shar or the Carol of Panthers, like

1912
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 2: if you, if you weren't in market, they're kind of

1913
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 2: nationally obscure and anonymous. Is that where Indianapolis is now?

1914
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean to be honest, to be brutally honest. Yeah,

1915
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of it is just

1916
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 3: the quarterback situation and you look at it and go,

1917
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 3: all right, what is the realistic ceiling for that team,

1918
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 3: like if everything reasonable, you know, good health, no, no

1919
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 3: crazy dad luck? Like what if it is the division?

1920
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: The division is sexy, like nobody, nobody in that division

1921
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 3: stands out. I mean cam Ward is the number.

1922
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 6: One picking the draft.

1923
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 3: He's a quarterback. I can't think of a quarterback because

1924
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 3: the numb one picking the draft has been talked about

1925
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,759
Speaker 3: last cam Warden. It feels it you barely exist nationally.

1926
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is not a not a team that Audill spend

1927
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 3: a lot time talking about. Thank Houston last year had buzz.

1928
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: This year it's the opposite. But the cults, it's just no.

1929
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 3: I was at camp, I saw them. They're a part

1930
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 3: of the tour. And I I think the roster is good,

1931
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 3: like I really do like the roster. But when you

1932
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 3: look at those quarterbacks, I think from a national perspective,

1933
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 3: you just go, well, yeah, we're in a conference in

1934
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 3: Maholmes and Borrow and Allen and Lamar and Shroud and

1935
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 3: Herbert and the Sohmer. They're not going to be relevant.

1936
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 3: Could have a quarterback, you know, the.

1937
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 2: Matt I keep going back to this and at the

1938
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 2: quarterback position, I'm weighing back and forth, And I want

1939
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 2: you to tell me because you have a better perspective here,

1940
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:35,600
Speaker 2: because you look around and you cover multiple franchises. You

1941
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 2: know we're pigeonholed a little bit to our understanding, being Indianapolis.

1942
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:43,919
Speaker 2: You have a better barometer of comparison. Do you believe

1943
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones has been selected by Shane Steichen as

1944
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback because they really feel that Daniel Jones

1945
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 2: could be getting a second lease here and with a

1946
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 2: better roster, can be a better quarterback than what we

1947
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 2: saw in New York at no fault of his own,

1948
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: or do you believe it simply is because they just

1949
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:04,879
Speaker 2: don't think they can go with Anthony Richardson.

1950
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 3: So I think it's a combination of a few things.

1951
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 3: And look, one of them is I remember the Dad

1952
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 3: was there. It was about a hundred degrees, but it

1953
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 3: was I remember I was there with Jeremy Fowler of ESPN,

1954
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: Zach Kiefer of course of the Athletic, and then uh,

1955
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 3: there was another gentleman from USAFA. I'm getting his name,

1956
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 3: but we were in a breakout group with an Day Richardson,

1957
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 3: and at one point I've get which one was asking

1958
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 3: the question. He was talking and in a power phrase,

1959
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 3: but he essentially said, we know, I've just learned that

1960
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 3: I've got to stop slacking off. And he said that.

1961
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 3: We all just kind of looked at each other, like

1962
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 3: that's a that's a hell of a quote from a quote.

1963
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 3: I let my camp report with it. That is, maybe

1964
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 3: wants to check it out and read you can read exactly.

1965
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 3: And I remember walking out of it. I think this

1966
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 3: guy's not gonna win this show. There's just no way,

1967
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 3: Like I mean, even if that's true, and he's totally

1968
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 3: bought in and he's one hundred, like you've been here,

1969
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 3: there is a third year you in here, and like

1970
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 3: that's your that's like where you're at right now, Like

1971
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 3: you've got a tryrd. I just I And maybe he

1972
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 3: meant it another way. Who knows, I'm not him, but

1973
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 3: the way he said that is, that's that's alarming. And

1974
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 3: I think, look last year when he pulled himself out

1975
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 3: of that game in Houston. I know the Colts tried

1976
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 3: to downplay that. Anybody who's ever been in the locker room,

1977
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 3: that's a hard thing. Come back. You're the quarterback. You

1978
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 3: don't play yourself out of the game unless you're dead

1979
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 3: or your told to come out of the game. But

1980
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 3: that's I mean, there is just no other way. And

1981
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 3: so I think part of it was they saw I

1982
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 3: did to go Jones. The other part of it is

1983
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 3: Stichen looks at Daniel Jones and she's a guy who

1984
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 3: has mobility, who completes a high percentage of his passes,

1985
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 3: and who doesn't throw interceptions. And I think he looks

1986
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 3: at that and says, if he can just do that

1987
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 3: well for thirty five hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns, but

1988
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 3: he plis five picks, I can win with that guy.

1989
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 3: Can we can play better defense we played a year ago.

1990
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 3: We can run the heck out of the ball, We

1991
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 3: can let our playmakers make plays, and we can go

1992
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 3: nine and eight and be competitive in this division, maybe

1993
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 3: even somehow sneak it out. I think that's what he

1994
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 3: sees in Jones, where Iliga Richardson and go he might

1995
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 3: complete forty nine percent of his passes untrol fifteen picks.

1996
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 3: That you can't win like that in the NFL. I

1997
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 3: think that was ultimately the decision.

1998
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 2: Do you think, Matt You know, Chris Ballard publicly, I'm

1999
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 2: not saying that. I believe this, but publicly, and I

2000
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 2: understand it, Chris Ballard still stands by Anthony Richardson and says,

2001
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 2: and I know Anthony Richardson's young. I don't think he's

2002
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 2: a bad guy, you know whatever. Do you think the

2003
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 2: rest of the league feels that way? If if Arizona

2004
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 2: or Caroline, I mean in certain name of franchise, if

2005
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 2: somebody said to them, hey, you can have Anthony Richardson

2006
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: for a fifth round or right now, would they be

2007
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 2: tempted by that or do you think the rest of

2008
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 2: the league thinks, no, thanks.

2009
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 3: I think that for that kind of a compensation, yes,

2010
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 3: I think they would have a lot of suitors. But

2011
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 3: if I'm in Danapolis, I'm sitting there going, look, Daniel

2012
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 3: Jones is a guy long term. I mean, let's just

2013
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 3: face it, like he's another guy and cole fan don't

2014
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 3: want to hear because they've had one guy after next

2015
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 3: and Daniel Larcker hired. But Daniel Jones a bridge to

2016
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 3: hopefully not another bridge, hopefully the actual the actual guy.

2017
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 3: So I think the culture sitting there going, look, if

2018
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 3: he trade Richardson, what do we do, Like what if

2019
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 3: Joanes is terrible for the first month of the season.

2020
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 3: What if he's awful and we're gonna go back to

2021
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 3: Richardson Now, look, that might be between the rock and

2022
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 3: hard place at that point. But you know, I actually

2023
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 3: wondered if like a team like the Saints would call

2024
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 3: the Colts up and say, hey, look, we'll give you

2025
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 3: We'll give you a third round pick for him, well

2026
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 3: you know, third, fourth round, you know, and then they

2027
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:34,759
Speaker 3: don't have the fourth thweenth trade Bailey fifty Denver Bailey,

2028
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 3: but like, we'll give you a third you know, and

2029
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 3: maybe maybe it's one of these things where hey, look

2030
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 3: it's conditional, like he becomes over here and he plays great,

2031
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 3: that like you'll get like a date re pick two

2032
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 3: down the road or something. And I thought they if

2033
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 3: like a team like New Orleans did that, like maybe

2034
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 3: at that point we're indo, You're like, okay, look their

2035
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 3: third round pick is based like a late second.

2036
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 6: But it's tough.

2037
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 3: There's just there's a lot going against Richton right now.

2038
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 3: He has not been good. He has also been in

2039
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 3: there's also questions about like committed are you? And then

2040
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 3: there's also the other side of it too, where it's like, look,

2041
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 3: you just got benched for Daniel Jones VI king it's

2042
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 3: fourth overall a couple of years ago. Well, they didn't

2043
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 3: mention him because they signed Aaron Rodgers, right, they pasted

2044
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 3: it for Daniel Jones, who's on a one year contract,

2045
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,679
Speaker 3: who's on the Vikings practice squat last year. Like, it's

2046
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 3: just really hard to get any value for a guy

2047
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 3: who's in that kind of situation.

2048
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he's also in this real danger zone, Matt,

2049
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 2: And you correct me if I'm wrong here. Where the

2050
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 2: part of the stigma with Richardson is this point is

2051
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 2: the fact that it's between the years. And I don't

2052
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: mean to say that his lack of intellect, but his

2053
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 2: lack I mean there have been very very good, sharp,

2054
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 2: excellent TV analyst guys that when the arrows are flying

2055
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 2: past him at the quarterback position, just simply could not process.

2056
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 2: And that's I think that's the biggest danger is the

2057
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: narrative is that he can't process. And am I correct

2058
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 2: in saying that's a real hard thing get away from.

2059
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 3: It's a death sentence. I mean, if you can't do that,

2060
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 3: there's no there's no fixtion in that You're not just

2061
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 3: all of a sudden I learned how to p I've

2062
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 3: always compared the NFL quarterback position to standing on a freeway.

2063
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's basically like trying to play quarterback on

2064
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 3: a freeway. And you've got to be able to stand

2065
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 3: in there, read the progressions, understand, and I think this

2066
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 3: is the most underrated thing with fans. You've got to

2067
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 3: understand what's going on pre snap. You've got to get

2068
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 3: out of the huddle and to the line of scrimmage

2069
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 3: fifteen or so seconds on that clock and understand, okay,

2070
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 3: reading the safety, I'm getting a single high look. I

2071
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 3: now know that my ex receiver he's going to be

2072
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 3: open on this on this curl route, and I've got

2073
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 3: to make sure I hold the safety and then you

2074
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 3: and you've got to do all that in the stand

2075
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 3: up about seven eight seconds, maybe ten if you get

2076
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 3: to the line quick enough. And then if you're wrong,

2077
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to adjust. If you're right,

2078
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to execute what you know

2079
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 3: you've got to do and do all that well, you've

2080
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 3: got four or five guys who are running up fo

2081
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 3: or five or two hundred and sixty pounds coming at

2082
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 3: you like it's it's hard. There's a reason in the

2083
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 3: NFL how many quarterbacks are truly elite players correct six

2084
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 3: sas it is mentally difficult.

2085
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 2: Who's the best in the league at that. I mean,

2086
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 2: I know that Alan and Mahomes are outstanding at improvising

2087
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 2: when the arrows are flying once they're in the freeway, right,

2088
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 2: But give me a guy that doesn't maybe get his

2089
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 2: proper due for it. But you're like, man, that guy

2090
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 2: is the computer is going the second he breaks.

2091
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 3: The huddle, I would say it's Burrow, Like I think,

2092
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,839
Speaker 3: I think Burrow when you watch him, he very rarely

2093
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 3: makes mistake. I mean, he he'll drawing a police on

2094
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 3: anybody else, but he very rarely does he just throw

2095
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 3: a ball or it's he shouldn't go. I mean, he's

2096
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 3: he's very very smart that way. I do think Malmes

2097
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 3: is underrated in that regard because he's so spectacular post step.

2098
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 3: But there are a lot of times in Mahomes where

2099
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 3: you watch them. I mean, heck, the game when he's

2100
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 3: driving against the Niners in the Super Bowl is massiful.

2101
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if you watch the mic up of that,

2102
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 3: he's telling the guys before they're even breaking the huddle.

2103
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 3: For even sees or a defense. Hey I'm coming to you.

2104
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw the ball right here, I mean, and

2105
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 3: that comes with experience. There are certain eyes where it's

2106
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 3: just the brain works the right way. They're brilliant attic Manning,

2107
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 3: of course, I mean, you could argue he was the

2108
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 3: best ever at at where he would just he was

2109
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 3: his own offensive coordinator, right, yeah, he was really the

2110
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 3: last guy to just call his own plays. And the

2111
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 3: truly great one. The Manning's the Brady even the Mahomes

2112
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 3: is like Montana, those guys they win the play before

2113
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:39,679
Speaker 3: it even starts.

2114
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 2: But you know, Matt doesn't that, I mean, doesn't that

2115
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 2: even even for a Manning. I mean, and listen, I

2116
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 2: covered Peyton Manning's career from the time, you know, the

2117
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 2: entire time, right even for a Manning, it felt like

2118
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 2: it took twenty starts before it started to hit it

2119
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 2: before it was finally on the people mover at the

2120
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 2: airport right where it's just moving automatically. And that's the

2121
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 2: chat I mean to me. And that's the challenge with

2122
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 2: Richardson is at some point you also didn get to

2123
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:10,959
Speaker 2: a point where you're too far gone right enough times.

2124
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 3: Past, and that's the thing like, and that's why I

2125
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,839
Speaker 3: was curious to shoo. I thought after they signed Johnson's

2126
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 3: they playing. But there was a part of me that

2127
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 3: held off writing that because I was, well, if you're

2128
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 3: the coult that you just say, to hell with it,

2129
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna play him. We're gonna play him, you know,

2130
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 3: as long as he's healthy. Seventeen games and we're just

2131
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 3: gonna see did he learn as he goes And by

2132
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 3: the end of the year he's a lot better. Now

2133
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 3: apparently they just don't feel that that's goppened. Look, and

2134
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 3: this is not just not Anthony Richardson, Like I'll give

2135
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 3: you another example in the league right now that's gonna

2136
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 3: be talked out a lot more this year because they're

2137
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 3: gonna be on national TV starting Week one. Cale Williams

2138
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 3: and the Bears, I mean that is a thing. Like

2139
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 3: he got sack sixty eight times last year and their

2140
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 3: offensive line was not good. The part of that was

2141
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 3: Cale Williams is just hold on to the ball and

2142
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 3: get crushed. And if you go back and you watch,

2143
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 3: there were times you're like, man, that pol's just got

2144
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 3: That guy's opened five yards in front of you and

2145
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 3: his first intent, Like you've got to just get rid

2146
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 3: of it and the games fact at times, and I

2147
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 3: was at OTA's with the Bears. I was at training

2148
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 3: camp during the joint practice at the Bears, and but

2149
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 3: he hit from million nice plays. There were also times

2150
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 3: I stood next to a four NFL player during one

2151
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 3: of the practices. I was sitting there talking to him

2152
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 3: and you know, like those guys will do he break

2153
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 3: the huddle. He's like, Okay, display he's got to go here,

2154
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 3: and that's exactly what it should have happened. But she

2155
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 3: hold the football and it's like, look that ball. If

2156
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 3: you're holding the ball for three plus seconds in the NFL,

2157
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 3: that's death. You're either going to get crushed or something

2158
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:38,799
Speaker 3: bad's probably gonna happen on field. And I think for Richardson,

2159
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 3: the thing that's really hurt him is just he has

2160
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 3: got an experience. He's been hurt, been out of the lineup,

2161
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:45,759
Speaker 3: he didn't play. I mean, he didn't have a thousand

2162
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 3: pass attempts between high school and college. It's hard. It's

2163
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 3: really hard that the master something when you're not doing.

2164
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 4: It, you know.

2165
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: Matt, I remember Matt verde Rams, our guest from Sports Illustrated.

2166
01:49:56,520 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 2: I remember when going back to Manning and and it's

2167
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:04,640
Speaker 2: a famous story around here probably, but early in Manning's

2168
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 2: career he was there. They're going through live simulations and

2169
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 2: Manning holds onto the football and Tom Moore says, what

2170
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 2: do you do? And you got to get rid of

2171
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 2: the ball and Manning said, well, nobody was open, and

2172
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 2: Tom Moore said, that's where you're wrong. Everybody on that

2173
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 2: field was NFL open. They're not SEC open, but they're

2174
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 2: NFL open. And Manning talks about how you had to

2175
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: learn that, right. The window is is a third of

2176
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 2: what it is in terms of the college time. And

2177
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 2: I think being able to recognize that, Matt is what

2178
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 2: is so hard for guys, right, and even the best,

2179
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 2: even the best, Yeah, I think it struggles to learn that, right.

2180
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 3: It's no, it's so true. Look, you know, I was

2181
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 3: actually talking to college about all this stuff the other

2182
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 3: day about quarterbacks, and you know, look, it's it's when

2183
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 3: you're playing Let's just say give Richardson for example, So okay,

2184
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 3: you're playing best team. If we're playing Alabama playing Georgia,

2185
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:01,839
Speaker 3: that team might have defensively, speaking to four NFL starters

2186
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 3: on it and the rest of those guys are by

2187
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 3: NFL standards, are guys like you can throw the ball

2188
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 3: past the linebackers here, you can throw on that corner.

2189
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 3: That safety runs a four to seven like that guy's

2190
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 3: not closing a time you get to the NFL. I

2191
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 3: don't care who you are. If you're in the NFL

2192
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 3: and you're playing, you're not a four to seven safety.

2193
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 3: You're running a four to four to five. You can

2194
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 3: drive on the ball you are. You are breaking on

2195
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 3: a ball based on the nation and knowing, Okay, this

2196
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 3: guy split his X. I know that based on that,

2197
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 3: but he can run these two routes, and I know

2198
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 3: that guy runs out the one route three times more

2199
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 3: than he runs the other out. And I'm gonna break

2200
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 3: before he even throws the football. And that's the start.

2201
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 3: That's the game within the game that college doesn't exist.

2202
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 3: The other part of it is if you watch the

2203
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 3: college game this Saturday, we'll get the hash marks on

2204
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 3: the field, how wide they are. When the balls on

2205
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 3: one side of the field. I've talked to coaches about

2206
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 3: salot recently. When the balls on one side of the field,

2207
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 3: that other side, that wide side is huge. I mean

2208
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 3: sekers of space to just split the ball out there

2209
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:05,879
Speaker 3: that doesn't exist in the NFL. Right, there's no easy

2210
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 3: little foot throw for eight yards in the NFL. There's

2211
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 3: no wide side like that. So it's the openness that

2212
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 3: you get on ten fifteen throws in college for plovery

2213
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 3: game that doesn't exist at the NFL level.

2214
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Matt, I'm gonna I'm going to introduce you to

2215
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 2: this little game we've done. In conclusion, I appreciate your

2216
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 2: time at verte Ram because I know you're a busy guy,

2217
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 2: especially this time of year. But we've been doing this

2218
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 2: all week. I'm gonna give you three categories. I want

2219
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,440
Speaker 2: you to tell me for each the team that immediately

2220
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: comes into the head of Matt verte Ram. Okay, I'll

2221
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 2: describe the team for this season, and then you tell

2222
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 2: me which one it matches. Okay, Team number one. This

2223
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 2: is the team that you haven't thought a lot about.

2224
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 2: You haven't written a lot about them, there's not a

2225
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 2: lot of conversation about them. But late October early November,

2226
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're gonna go, are they good?

2227
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 2: Like they're six and three now, and and I think

2228
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 2: they might actually be good. And they just kind of

2229
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 2: become that team that you're like, yeah, they had a

2230
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 2: nice year. They're the Washington Commanders of this year, like

2231
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 2: Washington did last year. That team for you this year

2232
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:12,559
Speaker 2: is most likely to be who.

2233
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 3: They won't go as far as Washington, but I think

2234
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 3: it's Knowingley. I think New England's going to make the

2235
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 3: playoffs because I think May is good. I think it'd

2236
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:22,680
Speaker 3: be really good. Mc daniels is a terrible head coach

2237
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 3: because a go offensive coordinator, and Rafel's a very good

2238
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 3: head coach. They added a lot in free agency. I

2239
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 3: love their draft. I think all four of the first

2240
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 3: guys he took to playing Henderson's going to be really

2241
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 3: good immediately in the backfield. I don't think they're going

2242
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 3: to challenge Buffalo to win the division, but I think

2243
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 3: they're a nine or ten win team.

2244
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 2: Okay, team number two. This is one that you know,

2245
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 2: there's usually some talk about them, some conversation. They're kind

2246
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: of slotted as a playoff potential team, and yet all

2247
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden around November, you're going to go, I

2248
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: don't think this is going to get footing for them

2249
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 2: this year, that they're just stuck in neutral and they're

2250
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 2: this year's Bengals, and I don't know what's going on.

2251
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,799
Speaker 1: That's who the Niners.

2252
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 3: I just don't don't. I don't see it, Like maybe

2253
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm dead wrong. I've hurt Kittles older. McCaffrey is not

2254
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 3: older for a running back. He's getting older and he's

2255
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 3: hurt a lot. Williams is older. Defensively, it's it's it's

2256
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 3: two guys. It's Warner and it's Bosa and it is

2257
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 3: nobody else. I just I don't know. I think that's

2258
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 3: I would not be shocked if they finished starting. I

2259
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 3: think they're like a second okay.

2260
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 2: And then lastly, not named the Dallas Cowboys, the franchise

2261
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 2: that after a month or so, it's like, here comes

2262
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 2: the drama. There was a fight in the locker room.

2263
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 2: Supposedly this guy's unhappy. There's tension with the coaches, and

2264
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: it's like, you know what, this is the Colts bringing

2265
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 2: in Jeff Saturday midyear level total dysfunction, and it's just

2266
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:51,879
Speaker 2: a year that is wasted.

2267
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 3: That franchise, the team that'll be in Indianapolis on Sunday,

2268
01:54:56,520 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 3: not named the Coults. I just I look at the

2269
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 3: Dolphins and I'm not a big like vibes. Guy, I

2270
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 3: kind of gets over it. That team has been a

2271
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 3: disaster this summer. If anything could go, I feel like

2272
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 3: we're like a half a football way from Tyreek Hilton

2273
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 3: is like openly asking to be traded during halftime Brown. Yeah, yeah,

2274
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna go to like Evan Washer and

2275
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 3: whoever the hell's in the sideline forack game. Tyreek Hilt

2276
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 3: just told me he wants to be traded, Like, I

2277
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 3: just I don't know. You're looking at it like their

2278
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 3: first two games of the Colts and their home to Miami,

2279
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 3: their home to New England in Miami, and then by

2280
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 3: the building on a Thursday night in week three in Buffalo.

2281
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 3: It fuels like they've better win those first two games.

2282
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 3: And I don't think they're gonna But if they do,

2283
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 3: like that might be it solved for them a little bit.

2284
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 3: If they start out Onto and they're going to Buffalo.

2285
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 3: I feel like Mike McDaniel's looking at his job in

2286
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 3: like the middle of October. But yeah, I just I

2287
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 3: don't see it at all with them. I'd be shocked

2288
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 3: if they're.

2289
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 2: Good, Eddie, do you haven't had the breaking news sounder?

2290
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: This is just in things starting to look up towards

2291
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 2: the perhaps winning their first season opening game in eleven seasons. Matt,

2292
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 2: do you want to buy them? Do you want to guess?

2293
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: If you get this right, Matt Verdi ram, I will

2294
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 2: actually go down right now. I will have Eddie finish

2295
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 2: the show. I will walk down to the Taco Bell

2296
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 2: cantina by you gift cards and a box and ship

2297
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 2: it out east to you right now. You ready, if

2298
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 2: you get this right? The starting quarterback of the opposition,

2299
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 2: the last time that the Indianapolis Colts won a game

2300
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 2: in Week one was who.

2301
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we said it was like eleven years ago,

2302
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 3: a f C West AFC. All right, I mean I'll

2303
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 3: throw a dar here and say, uh God, almighty, who

2304
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 3: was it?

2305
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 6: Was it?

2306
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 3: Manning?

2307
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 1: No?

2308
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 3: Was it? Now? Okay, I mean got it was? It

2309
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 3: was good.

2310
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 1: That's a good guess.

2311
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 3: Was it? Did they beat the Raiders?

2312
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: They did?

2313
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just some clown who was a car.

2314
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Some clown, he says, it's a Raiders.

2315
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 3: A Raider they've been acrocious for twenty five years. It

2316
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 3: could have been anybody.

2317
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 1: The change position.

2318
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 2: The Raiders, by the way, are my pick, Matt for

2319
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 2: what you said about the Patriots. I think the Raiders

2320
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 2: this year are going to be surprisingly good. Not I'm

2321
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 2: not saying great, but I think they're going to be competent.

2322
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 1: How's that?

2323
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 3: But I mean they could be. The hard thing for

2324
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 3: them is just that position. But on the flip side,

2325
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't think the Chargers are good, so maybe the

2326
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 3: Raiders are better than the Chargers. I mean to be interesting,

2327
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 3: you know.

2328
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 2: For the answer, what if I told you free tattoos

2329
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 2: in college?

2330
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he switched positions. Yeah, he was in

2331
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: the pros. Correct, he became a receiver prior to real prior,

2332
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 1: baby to real prior.

2333
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I don't know if I'm

2334
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 3: hanging the banner of that one. If I'm the colt,

2335
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 3: you know.

2336
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 2: All the counts is half a win, but we take care.

2337
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I said I when you said it was

2338
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 3: the Raiders, I'm like, it's it's gonna be something ridiculous.

2339
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a there was a playoff getting

2340
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 3: still like Connor Cook or something like. It's some ridiculous

2341
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 3: thing that your car got hurt.

2342
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 6: Matt mccamoye.

2343
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Yeah, he had a hot girlfriend,

2344
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 2: that guy. They kept showing her in the crowd. I

2345
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: remember that much game wasn't working. Okay, lastly, Matt, are

2346
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 2: you going to watch the Dolphins Colts game from Club

2347
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 2: Applebee's Huh, I'm.

2348
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 3: Actually gonna watch it? No, thank god?

2349
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 6: No the answer.

2350
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 3: I am gonna watch it from New York, flying out there.

2351
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be out there for the weekend, see a

2352
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 3: little family, and then work from out there and then

2353
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 3: come back and cover Vikings Bears and then Packers Commanders

2354
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 3: on Thursday. And uh no, I am gonna. I'll be

2355
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 3: keeping an eye though the Colts. If they lose to

2356
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, every alarm bell in the world should go off,

2357
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 3: but that they have to win that game.

2358
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 2: They opened the Colts do they opened it home with

2359
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: two of them, the Dolphins and the Broncos, two teams

2360
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 2: as I mentioned that they may well be if they

2361
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 2: are hoping to be a wild team. You know what

2362
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they got to win one.

2363
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: If not of.

2364
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 3: Them, you gotta win the those those games like they

2365
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 3: counted a game and a half. You're right, you're talking

2366
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 3: about you know, I mean, it's look, I don't think

2367
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 3: Miami is gonna be there. But if you're the Colts

2368
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 3: sets are gonna be have to win and then Denver.

2369
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 3: It's not like Denver's offense is un believe it. Go

2370
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 3: out there and wins seventeen thirteen with Daniel Jones.

2371
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 2: That's the game plan, right, that's it, Matt. We appreciate it.

2372
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 2: Man as always safe travels to you.

2373
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, thanks a lot to take care of.

2374
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 2: All right, Matt Verderam, who is NonStop energy guy's great

2375
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 2: one of the And by the way, if you if

2376
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 2: you listen to this, and I want to make clear

2377
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 2: that people understand when he was talking about Caleb Williams,

2378
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 2: because that New York accent comes into play, which I love.

2379
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 2: But when he said that Caleb Williams has been sacked

2380
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 2: last year, was sacked sixty eight times, it sounded like

2381
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 2: he had sex sixty eight times. And I don't know

2382
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 2: the personal life of Caleb Williams in any way, shape orformance,

2383
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 2: none of my business, but he was saying that he

2384
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 2: had been sacked sixty eight times.

2385
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 1: Boyd Jacob, you know that there is an avenue to

2386
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 1: where the Colts could beat the Broncos. You can think

2387
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,320
Speaker 1: about it. They were on the road in Denver last

2388
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 1: year and if Jonathan Taylor doesn't drop the ball at

2389
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: the goal line. Totally changes everything, right, Yeah, it totally did,

2390
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 1: because it was that was the beginning of the downhill spiral.

2391
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: That was the I mean, by the way, I thought

2392
01:59:57,320 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: you were trying to make a pun there at the

2393
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 1: end of that conver when you said there were tua

2394
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: them games that the Colts had to win to start these.

2395
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 2: Nice nice What I would be saying is this, the

2396
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 2: Colts open against Miami and Denver, right for their playoff chances,

2397
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 2: they'd like to win two or else it actually kind

2398
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 2: of nicks the opportunity to get.

2399
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: Into the wild card. Shit I did there. You're here

2400
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,320
Speaker 1: all week. I am here all week?

2401
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 4: Right?

2402
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 2: That wasn't bad though? Was it not terrible?

2403
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 6: Okay?

2404
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:32,839
Speaker 1: Thank you, You're welcome.

2405
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 2: Big news that we told you yesterday. If you listen

2406
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 2: to this show, you were on top of it at

2407
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:40,520
Speaker 2: the water cooler this morning. You were informed, came out

2408
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 2: earlier educated. Correct, you were educated yesterday and it came

2409
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:46,480
Speaker 2: true today. I will tell you what that is next.

2410
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 2: Listen when this when this song came out, it was

2411
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 2: one of those that it was like eggnog, like you

2412
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 2: like it first and then as soon as you had

2413
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 2: too much of it, You're like, okay, that that escalated quickly.

2414
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: Need to apologize to Mo from Ohio because I remember

2415
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 1: him a few weeks ago. Jake, we kept playing the

2416
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:18,120
Speaker 1: Proclaimers every Friday for some reason, just randomly. He said,

2417
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 1: Oh great, I just got that out in my head.

2418
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 1: And then you brought up the Macarena. So I just

2419
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 1: did both. I may have really irked me from Ohio

2420
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 1: off a little bit, so I played both songs today.

2421
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 2: You know the other one that gets stuck in your

2422
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 2: head is that get knocked down and back up again?

2423
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm unfamiliar. Oh come on, you have to know that song.

2424
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:41,920
Speaker 2: There's no way you don't know that song. You know

2425
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 2: what I'm talking.

2426
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 1: About, right, there's too many of those songs. Jake to

2427
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:49,840
Speaker 1: it some band called like Chumbawamba. Oh yes, I get

2428
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: knocked down it up again? And then at the end, strangely, oh,

2429
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 1: what's the song that At the very end, it has

2430
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 1: the subtlety of what song is this? You ready?

2431
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

2432
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:09,080
Speaker 1: Dun dun d d d d du du dun? Is that?

2433
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 1: What's that too? What was that?

2434
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 4: What's that?

2435
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: Somebody helped me out here, dude, dude, do do do

2436
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:19,919
Speaker 1: do do do Do Do Do Do Do Do do

2437
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 1: do do do?

2438
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:23,520
Speaker 2: Is that a It's like a wedding song, right that

2439
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 2: that plays. At the end of that, I get knocked

2440
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 2: down and back up again. It's very subtle at the

2441
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 2: end of it. The announcement came today what we told

2442
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:36,400
Speaker 2: you yesterday, and I get it. I totally understand. I mean,

2443
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 2: we are on the cusp of the NFL season. We

2444
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 2: talked earlier today Charles Davis joined us. Who's going to

2445
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:45,280
Speaker 2: be on the call CBS Colts and Dolphins coming up

2446
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 2: on Sunday. We talked to Mike Nysialik earlier about Indiana

2447
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:53,160
Speaker 2: football and got Eddie signed up as one of the

2448
02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:57,440
Speaker 2: Hoosher Bison Buddies, which is fun Let's go. And we

2449
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 2: also talked just then with Matt Verderram from Sports Illustrated

2450
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 2: about the Colt's upcoming season in the NFL in general.

2451
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:08,040
Speaker 2: So we we've talked funny and we have the Dolphins

2452
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 2: there as well. Now do we we need to do

2453
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 2: a sound effect for each and every week of the season.

2454
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 2: Do we have a Bronco sound effect?

2455
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 1: Uh, I'll just be a horse. We did not.

2456
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean a bucking horse of some sort,

2457
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 2: I would assume, right Bell's cannon. Thank you for Paul Hurley,

2458
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 2: better known as Paul the Mailman. Oh, we love a photographers.

2459
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 1: We've got like four of them.

2460
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 2: We do giddy Paul Paul the Mailman, Pauline hiographer, what's

2461
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 2: that Paulie PAULI yeah, we got Paulie. Paulie who's still

2462
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 2: looking to move and brought upol But we talked plenty

2463
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 2: NFL today and I realized that, and you know that

2464
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 2: that Indy car is a more niche sport, but when

2465
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 2: you're talking about drivers like Will Power, who is a

2466
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 2: an Indy five hundred champion, a season champion, and I

2467
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 2: mentioned his story yesterday. I went into pretty big detail

2468
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 2: about just his story and how I think he's a

2469
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:05,680
Speaker 2: guy that a lot of people can root for. And

2470
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 2: I told you yesterday that Power was out at Verizon

2471
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:15,440
Speaker 2: and that he was going to end up driving the

2472
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 2: ride that Colton Hurda was going to vacate because Colton

2473
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 2: Hurda is going to go test the waters in Formula one.

2474
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 2: And to recap what I mentioned yesterday, to drive in

2475
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 2: Formula one, you have to get what's called a super

2476
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 2: license and the super license comes by way of being

2477
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 2: involved in different series feeding into Formula one. IndyCar is

2478
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 2: not one of them. So for Colton Hurda to drive

2479
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 2: in Formula One and drive for the Cadillac Formula One

2480
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 2: team which is affiliated within Dreddi Global, which is the

2481
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 2: team he drives for an IndyCar, and the Cadillac Formula

2482
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 2: one team which is going to be based right here

2483
02:04:55,680 --> 02:04:58,040
Speaker 2: in central Indiana on the northeast side of town, which

2484
02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 2: is pretty cool to have an F one team based

2485
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 2: right here in Indiana. The Colton Hurda is going to

2486
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 2: go and be a test driver for that Cadillac F

2487
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 2: one team and that will open the door for him

2488
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 2: to eventually get that super licensing and get in to

2489
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 2: drive in Formula one.

2490
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 1: I think, Jake, anytime you reference to Colton hurd situation,

2491
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 1: he goes he needs a super license.

2492
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so super license allows him to run everywhere, including

2493
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:26,240
Speaker 2: in Monaco and then watch you Lissa's Bentley la Ford

2494
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 2: play for the Colts on the practice squad but similar right,

2495
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 2: a test driver practice squad and not necessarily practice squad

2496
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 2: but kinda. But so Colton heard up doing that that

2497
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 2: vacates his position with the team for car number twenty six,

2498
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:44,800
Speaker 2: that is Domino number two. Will Power is officially now

2499
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 2: slotted to take over that car for next year. Now

2500
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 2: that means that will Powers old car car number twelve

2501
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 2: is still available. He is now going over to take

2502
02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 2: over Colton Hurda's ride. The immediate reaction would be okay,

2503
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 2: So that means Andretti Global next year is going to

2504
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 2: have will Power, Kyle Kirkwood and Marcus Erickson. There's a

2505
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:14,839
Speaker 2: little bit of a curve ball with that because Marcus

2506
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 2: Erickson's job, even though he has a year left on

2507
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 2: his contract, there is some speculation that he could be

2508
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:24,120
Speaker 2: out and that they could find someone to drive that

2509
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:28,840
Speaker 2: car that Marcus Erickson currently has. And the thought on

2510
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:32,160
Speaker 2: that is Dennis Hauger, who's a native of Norway, who

2511
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,240
Speaker 2: is the Indie Next Champion and who won the Indie

2512
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 2: Next Championship ball driving for Andretti Global, and that championship

2513
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 2: does come with what's called scholarship money, money to help

2514
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 2: one get a ride in the NDT IndyCar Series. And

2515
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 2: with Dennis Hauger, there has been some conversation that he

2516
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:55,839
Speaker 2: could end up in Marcus Erickson's seat for next season.

2517
02:06:56,840 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't believe that to be the case. He may

2518
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 2: eventually end up there, but I don't think it's going

2519
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 2: to be next year. I think Dennis Hauger is instead

2520
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 2: going to be driving for dale Coin Racing. Thus another domino.

2521
02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 2: David Malucas is going to leave AJ Foyight Racing and

2522
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 2: car number four and go drive for Roger Penske and

2523
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 2: Will Power's old job in car number twelve. That then

2524
02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 2: leaves that AJ Foyt Racing Car number four seat open.

2525
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 2: This is where things get interesting. Larry Foyt is essentially

2526
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 2: the team principal, if you will, for AJ Foight Racing

2527
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 2: and Larry Foyight and I like that team. They already

2528
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 2: have Santana Ferrucci confirmed for next year, and Larry Foyd

2529
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 2: is a really good guy, and hastead a really good

2530
02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 2: job with that team, really good job. That team has

2531
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 2: a partnership, a technical alliance as they call it, with

2532
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 2: Team Penske. If you're Larry Foyd, you're looking at that

2533
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 2: open seat with Malucas leaving, and you're saying, okay, I

2534
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 2: have a couple of options here. One is I could

2535
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:09,480
Speaker 2: take say Connor Daily if he's bringing money from AMPM

2536
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:13,440
Speaker 2: with him that's the sponsor. Another is I could put

2537
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:17,760
Speaker 2: Dennis Hauger in that seat. And then there's option three,

2538
02:08:17,800 --> 02:08:19,960
Speaker 2: with which I think is the one that's going to happen.

2539
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:23,760
Speaker 2: I was told over the weekend in Nashville, as I've

2540
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 2: relayed from someone with knowledge of it, for certain, that

2541
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 2: team Penske has always kind of kept one eye on

2542
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 2: the driving skill and the pattern and the path. I

2543
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:45,800
Speaker 2: should say of Renu's VK, and VK yesterday announced that

2544
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:48,760
Speaker 2: he is declining an option to stay with dale Coin Racing.

2545
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:50,320
Speaker 2: It's not to say he can't go back there, but

2546
02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:52,840
Speaker 2: for right now, they offered him a contract extension and

2547
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 2: he declined it. I think that Rena's VK will end

2548
02:08:56,800 --> 02:09:00,000
Speaker 2: up in the number four car for aj Foyt Ray,

2549
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 2: so long as Penske, for example, is able to help

2550
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:10,440
Speaker 2: compensate that because VK wants more money than probably Larry

2551
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 2: Foyd at this point can afford. That's where Connor Daley

2552
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 2: is also a possibility there, because if Connor Daley is

2553
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 2: bringing money with him, that offsets cost for Larry Foyd's

2554
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 2: team and aj Foyt Racing. But I think that Penske

2555
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:26,160
Speaker 2: is going to put Rena's VK in that four car

2556
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 2: because I think they believe in his talent and would

2557
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 2: like to continue to watch him and see, basically in

2558
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:37,280
Speaker 2: an understudy type program, to see if it's somebody that

2559
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 2: they then could have long term. That would be an

2560
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 2: ideal landing spot for VK, not only because it's a

2561
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 2: good seat and a good team, but also because.

2562
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 1: I think it is.

2563
02:09:53,080 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 2: Increasingly possible, if not even probable, that Joe's new Garden

2564
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 2: is looking to move on from Team Penske. I don't

2565
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 2: know what it and I like Joseph Newgarten a great deal,

2566
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 2: but and he has a fabulous talent. I don't know

2567
02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 2: if it was just everything that's gone on with Team Penske.

2568
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:18,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but there's increased conversation

2569
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 2: that Newgarden may want out from that team and try

2570
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:25,320
Speaker 2: to land, for example, at Arra McLaren in another year.

2571
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:27,800
Speaker 2: If that's the case and that two set opens up,

2572
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 2: that's one of the most coveted positions in motorsport, and

2573
02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 2: VK could put himself in position there to then be

2574
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 2: part of a team that would have Scott MacLachlan, David

2575
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 2: Lucas and Renas VK say in another year from now.

2576
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot to unpack in that aspect and area

2577
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 2: of that in terms of will Power. In one of

2578
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 2: the episodes of one hundred Days to Indy, there was

2579
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 2: from this past May and off topic conversation where Liz Power,

2580
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 2: will Power's wife had made reference to the fact that

2581
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 2: perhaps will would be better served being with a new

2582
02:11:09,400 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 2: team next year, which we now know is going to

2583
02:11:11,080 --> 02:11:15,880
Speaker 2: happen within Dready Global. But I think VK is going

2584
02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 2: to end up in that four seat. I think that's

2585
02:11:17,720 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 2: going to be the next domino to fall, and I

2586
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 2: think that's going to happen in a couple of days

2587
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:26,600
Speaker 2: once you hear Milucas confirmed for certain for that twelve right,

2588
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:34,080
Speaker 2: So that is that there's a lot there, But that's

2589
02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:36,440
Speaker 2: where things stand. Hey, Jake, is Tim Sindric permanently out

2590
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 2: of a job an IndyCar?

2591
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:39,800
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question.

2592
02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 2: I think Cindric could certainly, Tim Sendrick could be welcomed

2593
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 2: back by a number of teams. But it is my

2594
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 2: understanding and talking to people this weekend that for now, yes,

2595
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:51,720
Speaker 2: Cindric is essentially retired. His son is still a driver

2596
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 2: for Team Penske on the NASCAR side of things, that's

2597
02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:59,480
Speaker 2: a good question. I would think it has to be

2598
02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 2: a little bit right Tim Seddrick who was the team

2599
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 2: president for Penske and was let go this year after

2600
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:09,760
Speaker 2: the month of May, along with Ron Rosenowski who retired,

2601
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 2: and then Kyle Moyer who is now with Aera McLaren.

2602
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 2: But that's where things stand right now. Malucas will be

2603
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 2: the next Domino now to fall and that's going to

2604
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 2: be when it's announced that he's going to will Powers car,

2605
02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 2: and then I would anticipate Renis bk ending up in

2606
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 2: that four seat for aj Foyt, but Connor Daily don't

2607
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 2: rule him out. As for dale Coin, in the end,

2608
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:29,000
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be a two car team,

2609
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be that aforementioned Dennis

2610
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 2: Hauger who's going to be there, and I think he's

2611
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:36,440
Speaker 2: going to be partnered with romandros On. And then as

2612
02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 2: for Hunks Hauling A Racing, which currently has Connor Daley

2613
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 2: and Stingray Rob, I think they may merge with Premo

2614
02:12:42,680 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 2: Racing Robert Schwartzman in one seat and then probably sting

2615
02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 2: Ray Rob or maybe Connor in the other. That's probably

2616
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 2: a lot more than people were anticipating. But that's where

2617
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:55,360
Speaker 2: things stand. But it's fun to talk about, right, And yes,

2618
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:58,120
Speaker 2: LJ is correct. Tim Sendrick was about set to retire anyway,

2619
02:12:58,360 --> 02:13:02,800
Speaker 2: and certainly he has enough money too, for certain through

2620
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:04,560
Speaker 2: his own you know, through he and his wife and

2621
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:08,120
Speaker 2: everything else. So I certainly would understand that.

2622
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:11,240
Speaker 1: This is will Power and I'm in the company. Yes,

2623
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 1: how about that.

2624
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 2: He's at the company with Indrretti Global now too, right,

2625
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:19,960
Speaker 2: still efforting, as the kids say, But it looks like

2626
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 2: will Power is a possibility for tomorrow to join the program.

2627
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:29,640
Speaker 2: But I'm assuming right now I talked via text with

2628
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 2: will Power yesterday that was contingent. That was the contingency plan.

2629
02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 2: But I would imagine right now he's probably getting slammed

2630
02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:41,520
Speaker 2: with his phone because that announcement came not long ago. Well,

2631
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:44,240
Speaker 2: come back, It is the crossover with JV, brought to

2632
02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 2: you by the good folks that love heating and air.

2633
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:48,440
Speaker 2: We'll find out what John's got scheduled for the big

2634
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:49,200
Speaker 2: day as well.

2635
02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:52,520
Speaker 3: There.

2636
02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:56,800
Speaker 2: It is, indeed, another one that gets stuck in your

2637
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 2: head and then there's no getting out of it. Right

2638
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:04,080
Speaker 2: us open is still ongoing. I mentioned earlier. I just

2639
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:06,760
Speaker 2: think that would be such a cool sports weekend because

2640
02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, if you've ever been to New York City,

2641
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 2: it's really before you get to Queens. I mean, you

2642
02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 2: don't even realize you're in Queens, just outside of Manhattan.

2643
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 2: But there's Arthur ash Stadium and Billy Jean King Stadium

2644
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:20,840
Speaker 2: and all that, and then Flushing Meadows, which is where

2645
02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:24,120
Speaker 2: the Mets play, is right there. Obviously you are in

2646
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:26,880
Speaker 2: New York, You're a train ride away from everything. I

2647
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 2: just think it'd be such a cool sports weekend to

2648
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:31,880
Speaker 2: go spend a couple of days in New York City.

2649
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:35,720
Speaker 2: Manhattan's awesome, and then just go and between the tennis

2650
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:41,040
Speaker 2: and baseball and be a sports fan's dream in my opinion.

2651
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:44,880
Speaker 2: Thanks to Charles Davis for joining us earlier today. Also

2652
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:47,000
Speaker 2: Matt Verderram, as we had mentioned to Mike Knights, like

2653
02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:50,680
Speaker 2: all of that available in podcast form on the station website,

2654
02:14:50,680 --> 02:14:53,160
Speaker 2: But of course wait until after six before you do that,

2655
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 2: because J ANDV is going to be with you for

2656
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,480
Speaker 2: the next couple of hours. He just walked in. This

2657
02:14:57,600 --> 02:14:59,960
Speaker 2: crossover Chad, of course, brought to you by the good

2658
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:02,440
Speaker 2: guys that love heating and Air Love Dash HVAC dot

2659
02:15:02,440 --> 02:15:06,760
Speaker 2: Com three one seven three five three twenty one forty

2660
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:10,000
Speaker 2: one is the telephone number, John, what's on the big

2661
02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:10,560
Speaker 2: show today?

2662
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 8: We're going to do Aiden Fisher, you linebacker, a little

2663
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:19,560
Speaker 8: Colts conversation, some bulls eye passes to give away. Got

2664
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:21,879
Speaker 8: to get ready for the weekend, don't we. Yeah, football,

2665
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:24,200
Speaker 8: You're going to the Rose Bowl for Oasis.

2666
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 1: I am, I am. That's nice Saturday night.

2667
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:29,640
Speaker 2: I'll be back Sunday for probably the second half of

2668
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:30,000
Speaker 2: the game.

2669
02:15:30,440 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 8: So what time do you get back Sunday morning, Sunday afternoon?

2670
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is the time difference, right, And I

2671
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:39,080
Speaker 2: tried to do the Red Eye, but I get back.

2672
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:42,000
Speaker 1: I think it's at two thirty man afternoon.

2673
02:15:42,280 --> 02:15:45,920
Speaker 2: So that's a lot should be able to Yeah, but

2674
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 2: you know, I'll try to sleep on the plane, I

2675
02:15:48,080 --> 02:15:51,000
Speaker 2: guess right, But it's an express trip for certain But

2676
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:53,960
Speaker 2: you know, I think this game, John, we were talking

2677
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:56,920
Speaker 2: about it earlier. When you look at the first two

2678
02:15:56,920 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 2: games for the Colts between Miami and Denver, it's two

2679
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,800
Speaker 2: teams that I think you kind of anticipate over the

2680
02:16:02,840 --> 02:16:04,600
Speaker 2: course of the year. You're kind of in that same

2681
02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:07,760
Speaker 2: category grouping with so it's really an important opening stretch here.

2682
02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:11,680
Speaker 8: I think the opener is the most important opener that

2683
02:16:11,720 --> 02:16:13,880
Speaker 8: we have seen around here in years.

2684
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, for really all involved.

2685
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,320
Speaker 8: Think about it in these terms, Jake, if you're to

2686
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:23,000
Speaker 8: go out there and to split, okay, you split. If

2687
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:25,000
Speaker 8: you were to go out there and go to and zero,

2688
02:16:25,120 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 8: then the excitement is incredible. If you start zero and

2689
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 8: two at home with this group, then it's not even

2690
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:37,040
Speaker 8: so much about people being pissed about the results. People

2691
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:40,760
Speaker 8: are going to go Yeah, I'm not going and we're

2692
02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:45,480
Speaker 8: not even in middle September. So this is incredibly important

2693
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:48,000
Speaker 8: coming up on Sunday, maybe the most important opener we

2694
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:48,760
Speaker 8: have seen around here.

2695
02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to what do they call it?

2696
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:55,320
Speaker 8: Gas light everybody, whatever nerd term that is, and then

2697
02:16:55,320 --> 02:16:56,960
Speaker 8: that's how gas everybody.

2698
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:59,760
Speaker 2: But I think it's true. I've never understood what gas

2699
02:16:59,800 --> 02:17:00,959
Speaker 2: light gas lighting?

2700
02:17:01,520 --> 02:17:03,400
Speaker 1: What did that term derive?

2701
02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:07,840
Speaker 2: I've never understood it. Gas lighting is straw man, I've

2702
02:17:07,840 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 2: never understood either.

2703
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 8: There used to be the gas light in down the

2704
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:14,280
Speaker 8: south side of town in Bloomington.

2705
02:17:14,320 --> 02:17:17,080
Speaker 1: That's where the Hillbillies hung out. Really the gas light?

2706
02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 1: What about the video? Still, did you ever go to

2707
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:18,920
Speaker 1: the video.

2708
02:17:19,280 --> 02:17:21,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, do you know the story of guy He

2709
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:23,960
Speaker 8: was actually in the a wreck with me, almost killed

2710
02:17:24,040 --> 02:17:27,080
Speaker 8: him back when we were sophomores in high school, my

2711
02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 8: point guard at Eastern Green I almost killed him in

2712
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:32,119
Speaker 8: a wreck and he not literally killed him, well yeah,

2713
02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:34,000
Speaker 8: I guess literally killed but he was in a wreck

2714
02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 8: with me, right and shotgun. But years later he comes

2715
02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:41,880
Speaker 8: out of the vid and is drunk and stumbles down

2716
02:17:41,879 --> 02:17:45,279
Speaker 8: the stairs and falls on the i think the seventh

2717
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:49,080
Speaker 8: street side there, the seventh and Walnut, embraces himself on

2718
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:51,000
Speaker 8: that guard rail that sits right there. It may not

2719
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:53,400
Speaker 8: sit there anymore, but it used to, and slice part

2720
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:54,199
Speaker 8: of his finger off.

2721
02:17:58,080 --> 02:18:03,400
Speaker 2: Now I'm I'm pretty certain I'm correcting this, And this

2722
02:18:03,560 --> 02:18:05,640
Speaker 2: is one of those that it's like, without knowing all

2723
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 2: the facts, it's it's almost absurd to bring up, but

2724
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to anyway. Yeah, in my college years, the

2725
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:15,240
Speaker 2: vid became the video sold in Bloomington, became kind of

2726
02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 2: the trendy place because it was the.

2727
02:18:16,879 --> 02:18:18,760
Speaker 1: Non trendy place. It was correct.

2728
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:22,240
Speaker 2: It was the classic small town dive bar and so,

2729
02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, kids, college kids liked to go there.

2730
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, Intermix Barrel was very similar, very similar.

2731
02:18:28,560 --> 02:18:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the the main bouncer at the VID in

2732
02:18:35,360 --> 02:18:38,959
Speaker 2: Bloomington was actually a musician that had been in an

2733
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:41,480
Speaker 2: eighties like one hit wonder rock band that had an

2734
02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:43,360
Speaker 2: MTV video And now I can't remember.

2735
02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:46,039
Speaker 8: I did not know that. Yes, and I'll have that's awesome.

2736
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:47,720
Speaker 8: I'd like to hear more of that story.

2737
02:18:47,720 --> 02:18:50,520
Speaker 2: A buddy of mine, a buddy of mine like traced

2738
02:18:50,560 --> 02:18:51,920
Speaker 2: it down and was like, oh my, see.

2739
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:56,959
Speaker 8: The Vapors turning Japanese, you know with Tommy two tone

2740
02:18:57,440 --> 02:19:01,120
Speaker 8: eight six seven, five three oh nine. Hey, how Tarzan

2741
02:19:01,240 --> 02:19:04,520
Speaker 8: Boy Baltimora was in Baltimore.

2742
02:19:04,520 --> 02:19:05,200
Speaker 1: They're Italian.

2743
02:19:05,320 --> 02:19:09,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I got to think this is going to drive

2744
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:12,080
Speaker 2: me boss. So here's what we'll do.

2745
02:19:12,200 --> 02:19:15,560
Speaker 8: Tony Basil work the door back in the day had

2746
02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:21,040
Speaker 8: to be in a cheerleader outfit, right. I love all

2747
02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:23,240
Speaker 8: the songs from the eighties that are about spanking it.

2748
02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:25,880
Speaker 8: Those are my favorites. Tony Japanese is one of my

2749
02:19:25,920 --> 02:19:28,120
Speaker 8: all time favorites. By the Vapors. By the way, the

2750
02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:31,960
Speaker 8: Vapors still tour today, I believe, really, Yes, in some

2751
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 8: form or fashion. I don't know if it's the original

2752
02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:37,240
Speaker 8: group or one guy and maybe the Roadies, the original.

2753
02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:40,560
Speaker 2: Very politically incorrect song in multiple thing it is, but

2754
02:19:40,720 --> 02:19:42,800
Speaker 2: we love it, don't we? I think it's okay, right?

2755
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:44,840
Speaker 2: Is it not okay?

2756
02:19:45,640 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 1: It is?

2757
02:19:46,879 --> 02:19:48,880
Speaker 2: It's just a connotation of when you really think about

2758
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:49,680
Speaker 2: what they're talking about.

2759
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:52,160
Speaker 8: My daughter loves the Beatles and has that very same

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02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:53,480
Speaker 8: shirt you're rocking right there.

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Speaker 2: You know why I'm working because I got it for

2762
02:19:55,400 --> 02:20:00,440
Speaker 2: the State Fair. This shirt commemorates the Beatles. The fair

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02:20:00,480 --> 02:20:03,800
Speaker 2: Grounds September third, nineteen sixty four, sixty one years ago today,

2764
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:04,840
Speaker 2: sixty one.

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02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:07,480
Speaker 8: Is famous thing that ever happened in State Pharaoh?

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02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:07,720
Speaker 3: Was it?

2767
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy? Well at the fair itself? Well, I don't know.

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02:20:12,959 --> 02:20:17,400
Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy junior, Johnny Well, John Kennedy spoke there was it?

2769
02:20:17,480 --> 02:20:19,800
Speaker 8: I thought Robert Kennedy did a speech there too, did he?

2770
02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:19,959
Speaker 3: Not?

2771
02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:20,320
Speaker 4: He?

2772
02:20:21,080 --> 02:20:24,680
Speaker 2: No, Robert Kennedy's Robert Kennedy's famous speech was at nineteen

2773
02:20:24,680 --> 02:20:27,240
Speaker 2: to the Bromos when doctor King was assassed.

2774
02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:29,920
Speaker 8: I can't remember my my grandfather is like in the

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02:20:29,959 --> 02:20:30,959
Speaker 8: picture with.

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02:20:31,720 --> 02:20:33,199
Speaker 1: Really one of the Kennedy speach Bobby.

2777
02:20:33,360 --> 02:20:36,520
Speaker 2: Bobby Kennedy was scheduled to speak in Indianapolis on April

2778
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:41,280
Speaker 2: fourth of sixty eight, and the speech on that day

2779
02:20:41,400 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 2: was the day that doctor King was assassinated. So they

2780
02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:46,320
Speaker 2: came to Bobby Kennedy and said, you better not speak

2781
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:49,040
Speaker 2: tonight because doctor King was assassinated. There's going to be unrest.

2782
02:20:49,160 --> 02:20:50,800
Speaker 2: And so he went and stood on the back of

2783
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:53,720
Speaker 2: a pickup truck at nineteenth the Broadway which is now

2784
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:57,760
Speaker 2: obviously the memorialized with the park to speak to and

2785
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:02,280
Speaker 2: gave the famous speech. John Kennedy spoke at the coliseum.

2786
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:06,240
Speaker 2: And I hate to say this, John, but the the

2787
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 2: ice capage explosion or obviously the State Fair the stage collapse,

2788
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:12,680
Speaker 2: I mean would be the two would be up there, right,

2789
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:15,920
Speaker 2: because they're tragic moments. In terms of celebratory moments, yes,

2790
02:21:15,959 --> 02:21:18,320
Speaker 2: I think the Beatles playing there would have to be it, right, Yeah,

2791
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:19,920
Speaker 2: have to be the biggest moment.

2792
02:21:19,840 --> 02:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Forty years ago today?

2793
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:23,720
Speaker 8: What happened? What was created? Forty years ago today? This

2794
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:26,640
Speaker 8: would be on this date in nineteen eighty five, What

2795
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:30,920
Speaker 8: was create? What famous toy? Eh ber toy was created?

2796
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:33,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so I was let me ask you a toy

2797
02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:37,520
Speaker 2: more commonly used for boys or girls, or it was either.

2798
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:41,440
Speaker 2: My first guests would have been cabbage Patch Kids, because

2799
02:21:41,440 --> 02:21:43,280
Speaker 2: that would have been that era, that would have been not.

2800
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:48,440
Speaker 8: Cabbage Patch and is not mon Chi Chi manch Ici

2801
02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 8: ohso soft and cuddly. Oh yeah, I remember we used

2802
02:21:52,400 --> 02:21:54,400
Speaker 8: to call Mike Ross a friend of ours mon Chi Chi.

2803
02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:59,160
Speaker 8: I will go with Nintendo, go with Teddy Ruxbin. Really

2804
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:02,120
Speaker 8: Teddy Roux's been on this date? Who had Teddy Ruxman,

2805
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:04,240
Speaker 8: Teddy Ruxman would talk to you?

2806
02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:06,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Teddy Rouxsman. Well, Teddy Ruxman is still used.

2807
02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:10,520
Speaker 8: I bet Eddie Garrison's got Teddy Rxman at his house

2808
02:22:10,600 --> 02:22:11,000
Speaker 8: right now.

2809
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:13,080
Speaker 2: Teddy Ruxman was a little creepy, but not as creepy

2810
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:17,680
Speaker 2: as Chucky. Close though, Teddy Ruxman this date. I'm texting

2811
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:19,360
Speaker 2: my buddy right now. What was the connection between the

2812
02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:21,840
Speaker 2: video saloon and some random music video? And as soon

2813
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,320
Speaker 2: as he lets me know, I will text you the end.

2814
02:22:23,360 --> 02:22:26,240
Speaker 2: I love that I do, I'll let you know. Look

2815
02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:30,200
Speaker 2: at Eddie Garrison's man. He's sleep deprived, he's salty. He

2816
02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:32,480
Speaker 2: is up next by the way, he will be with

2817
02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:36,440
Speaker 2: you until six o'clock today, talking about as you mentioned,

2818
02:22:36,480 --> 02:22:37,200
Speaker 2: the Colts and what else.

2819
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Speaker 8: John Dorman, Mike is a legend at the VID dorman Mike,

2820
02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:43,760
Speaker 8: I was a bar back there in the early two thousands, owner,

2821
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:48,560
Speaker 8: family friend, great people. Video does not that, says the

2822
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Speaker 8: doorman Mike.

2823
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2824
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:53,840
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2825
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