1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: We may have a winner for the worst tire in 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: human history, do we Now, Look, we don't do a 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: lot of sports on this show because we have a 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: fabulous sports station one oh seven five ninety three to 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: five the Fan where you can get all your sports information. 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: But we do do sports when it sort of transcends 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: into regular society. And this next topic, I am enthralled 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: by it because to me, it was so obvious this 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: was going to happen. Yet I think it is sort 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: of a prime example of the culture and society in 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: which we live now, where money runs everything. The click, 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: the headline, the eyeball is the path the money. An 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: actual substance or performance isn't really all that important anymore. 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean it is to some extent, but this seemed 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: pretty obvious to me. 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: So. 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is the coach of North Carolina's football team. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: He was He's best known, obviously as the coach of 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots for many many years, was closing in before 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: he was finally they parted ways the Patriots in Belichick 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: was closing in on the all time wins record held 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: by Don Shula and sat out a year, couldn't get hired. 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: He's known as a very standoff. It's hard to work 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: with person. Kind of in the waning years of the Patriots, 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: it kind of became clear after Brady left. Hey, maybe 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: that was more Brady and less You, because Brady seemed 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: to do just fine in Tampa Bay and you stinksville 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: once Brady left, So no NFL team would hire him. 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: And then he ends up taking this job at North Carolina. 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: No college football coaching experience and I'm aware of certainly 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: in recent memory. And at the same time, he gets 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: in this relationship with a woman who is literally, I 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: think almost fifty years younger than him. 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Who graduated from North Carolina and sort. 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Of becomes his business manager. But she's not just behind 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: the scenes. She's on the field. She's around him all 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: the time. You have to do like various requests through her. 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: And so he takes this job at North Carolina, and 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: everybody who knows anything about football is looking at this 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: going one. Why would they hire him? He has no 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: skill set that would translate to college He's a horrible 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: in terms of his person to person interaction, which is 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: all the recruiting game basically is. He has no experience 44 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: whatsoever with the college recruiting system, the nil, the ever 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: changing landscape, and he also has no success record of 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: winning in college football. Why would they hire this guy? 47 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: And then the counter side to it is why would 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: he take the job? Because there's nothing about this game 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: you need it. It doesn't need money, there's nothing about it. 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: And to say we're setting you up for success here, 51 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: You're going to be really good at this and you 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: realize everybody was sort of in the same soup together, 53 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: which was something really bad is about to happen because 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: all we care about are headlines, eyeballs, clicks, publicity, money, 55 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: and it has thus far case he failed in a 56 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: spectacular fashion. 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting to note that his girlfriend can possibly 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: relate to the players better than he can. And now 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: his tenure there is in trouble. Reports are suggesting that 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: unc is already discussing firing him just five games into. 61 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: His first season. 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: He was hired back in December of twenty four to 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: coach the tar Heels, and now his team is two 64 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: to three, including some blowouts to TCU and Clemson. The 65 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: program it's being described as dysfunctional, no kidding, with a 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: divided locker room, no kidding, disorganized coaching. 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Staff, kidding. 68 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: And again you mentioned. 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Those frequent headlines about his personal life, particularly with his 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: twenty four year old girlfriend Jordan Hudson. 71 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Well, and this is, this is and and the other 72 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: thing that was fascinating is that now apparently they pulled 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: the plug on this. They were supposed to be doing 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: some sort of documentary. I think it was for Hulu. Yes, 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: that was going to chronicle this football team, and it's 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: apparently going so poorly in there that the school, I 77 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: think it's the school has pulled. 78 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: The pulled the plug, unc canceled the Hulu doc And 79 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: so all of this is now, So now the behind 80 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: the scenes conversations. 81 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Are they going to do a buy out? What does 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: the landing look like for Belichick? But I wanted to 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: touch on this and we could branch off into this 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: because Casey, look, you have you have hired many radio 85 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: personality over the years you spent I think most people 86 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: know this, but you spent years in management running not 87 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: just radio station stations, plural clusters of radio stations. You 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: were in charge of lots of people. Of being a 89 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: boss is you got to know whether somebody has a 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: chance or success at something. Right if you're part of 91 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 1: your job. The onus is on you as the higher 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: to Okay, what are the odds this person is going 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: to succeed? Now, it doesn't always work out. Nobody has 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: a crystal ball. But in the case of Bill Belichick, 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: if he's got to go, I say, the people who 96 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: hired him have to go to because we the lay 97 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: person should not be able to look at this. And 98 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: almost everybody was like, that is going to go very poorly. 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: And you put all of this in, don't you have 100 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: to hold the HIGHERR is accountable if you're going to 101 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: indict the higher E. 102 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Well, when you're looking at a twenty million dollar buyout, 103 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: I think so when you hire somebody, often you have 104 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: to look at their skill set, right, what they bring 105 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: to the table, But you also have to consider what 106 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: motivates that person? 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: Why do they want the job? 108 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: And you know, I mean there's all sorts of things 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: of the right cultural fit. 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: Do they have the. 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: Skill set, are they going to get along with all 112 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: their coworkers and everybody around them? Do we have the 113 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: tools for them to be a success. But I think 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: the motivation thing is a big one. What is that 115 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: person motivated by? And many times it's motivated by money. 116 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: They want the paycheck. They need a job, that's why 117 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: they want it. What was someone like Bill Belichick? He 118 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: didn't need the money, So what was his motivation to 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: want to go there? Was it to prove he could. 120 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: Be successful in the college football world? 121 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: Was it because that's where his girlfriend graduated from? 122 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, why did he want that job? 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Well? And the girlfriend is super interesting to me because 124 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: again we're talking about a woman who is almost fifty 125 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: years younger than Belichick, And there's a what you came 126 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: up with a number of mathematical formula on when somebody's 127 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: too young to date? Then you tell me I thought 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: there was some you divide something by something and at it, 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: and then I can't. I can't anyway. Point is I'm 130 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: the last person who's gonna say, indict some guy for 131 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: dating a woman younger than him. You know my theory 132 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: on as long as everybody's eligible to be in a bar, 133 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: everybody can all do the same stuff. At the age 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: is only a number. But it's one thing to steal 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: a line from Seinfeld to say, hey, I'm seventy whatever 136 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: and she's twenty four, and we all know what's going 137 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: on here. We're all just having a good time, right. 138 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: It probably knows what's going on. 139 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: But there's a difference between I'm doing this and she's 140 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: just kind of taking my money, and I'm, you know, 141 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: will a wilful participant. He put her in charge by 142 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: many accounts of his life. Right, that's a huge difference 143 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: between I'm just dating some younger woman because she's a 144 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: broad ripple nine and a half yeap, she's. 145 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: Been seen on the sidelines multiple times, she's been photographed 146 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: speaking with the acc commissioner, And is it her presence 147 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: that is the source of all of the tension or 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: is it the both of them together or is it 149 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: just him? They said that he's been acting weird and 150 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: distant and some staff can't even reach him during a 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: bye week, like he's just non communicato. 152 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, I thought this was super fascinating that it's 153 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: sort of a microcosm of the society in which we live, 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: where we are now driven. And this is true in sports, 155 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: it seems true in business, it seems true in regular 156 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: people's exist many regular people's existence where headlines clicks, publicity, 157 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, that seems to matter most rather than productivity, 158 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: likelihood of success, the ability to just do a job. 159 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: By the way, did you ever have a really bad hire? 160 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Was there somebody you ever hired and you were like, oh, 161 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't believe I did that. 162 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: I had one employee once who argued with me that 163 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: they were being treated differently than like the Morning show, 164 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: and I said to him, well, you are different. They've 165 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: been a proven success, their unknown commodity. They've been here 166 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: for a decade. You just started last week and you're 167 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: still trying to find where the bathroom is. So yeah, 168 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: the pay scale is going to be different. Everything about 169 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: it is going to be different. 170 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: But you never had some big, high profile person where 171 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: they put it on you and you said, this is 172 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: the person we need and then it totally blew up 173 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: in your face and they said, Casey. 174 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: No, I vet people pretty good except for you. 175 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: Well, you didn't hire me. That isn't your brother, That's true. 176 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: You didn't hire me. 177 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about one other thing that was a 178 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: little wonky. Katie Porter, California is gubernatorial hopeful. She tried 179 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: to end this interview abruptly after being asked about winning 180 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: over Trump voters. 181 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: Did you did you see this video? 182 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: I did, so, this is fascinating. I would actually like 183 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: to because I think there's a societal commentary here. 184 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: You want to take a break, talk about break? 185 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll play this audio because she is an insufferable 186 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: sea hag. And I think it's a great look into 187 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: who these politicians are. And I want to spend some 188 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: time on this. 189 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three wibc. 190 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so you would tease this going to break the 191 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Katie Porter? She is a what is she? She's a rep. 192 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: She's a California US Representative. She's a Democrat, or she's 193 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: a senator? Now what is she? She's a rep? 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: Right? 195 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 196 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's running. Yeah, she's running for governor of California. 197 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: She is an insufferable sea hag. And she did some 198 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: interview where she basically kind of like lost it on. 199 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Was it the reporter that she lost it on? 200 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 201 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: She was being interviewed by CBS's Julie Watts, and Julie 202 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: Watts asked her a question same question he had asked 203 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: other candidates, what do you say to the forty percent 204 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: of California voters who voted for Trump? And Porter then 205 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: called the question unnecessarily argumentative, and then she tried to 206 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: remove her microphone and walk off. 207 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: We have the audio of this. 208 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: We do. 209 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: Let's take a. 210 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: Listen, and the question is what do you say to 211 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump? 212 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you 213 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm 214 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 5: happy to answer the question. As for the question is 215 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: you haven't written and all answer. 216 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 4: And we've also asked the other candidates do you think 217 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: you need any of those forty percent of California voters 218 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 4: to win? And you're saying no, you don't. 219 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 5: No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every 220 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 5: vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is. 221 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: That well to those voters. 222 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing this. 223 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 5: I'm going to call it. 224 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: Thank you. 225 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 4: You're not going to do the interview with them? 226 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 5: Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow 227 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: ups to every single question you ask. 228 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 4: Every other candidate has a I don't care. 229 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation, 230 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 5: which you asked me about reissue on this list, and 231 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 5: if every question you're going to make up a follow 232 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 5: up question, then we're never going to get there and 233 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: we're just going to circle around. I am an investigative, 234 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 5: had to do this before ever. 235 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: You've never had to have an conversation to Okay, but 236 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: every other candidate has done this. 237 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: What part of I'm me? I'm reading for governor because 238 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: I'm a leader, So I am going to make so. 239 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 4: You're not going to answer questions from reporters. Okay, why 240 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: don't we go through? I will continue to ask follow 241 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: up questions because that's my job as a journalist. But 242 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: I will go through and ask these and if you 243 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: don't want to answer, you don't want to answer, so 244 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: nearly every legislative. 245 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 5: I don't want to have an unhappy experience for the you, 246 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 5: and I don't want this all on camera. 247 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. 248 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: I would love to continue to ask these questions so 249 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 4: that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels 250 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: about every one of these issues that they care about 251 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: and readisserit tak it's a massive issue. We're going to 252 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: do an entire story just on the responses to that question, 253 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: and if asked everybody the same follow up questions. 254 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 2: She didn't want to do that on camera. She doesn't 255 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: want to have an unhappy experience. What did she expect 256 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: they were going to brush each other's hair? 257 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: Well, there's so many things I wanted to get to 258 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: with this. That's why I wanted to save it for 259 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: its own segment because now there's stuff started to come 260 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: out about her that video clips, other accounts that she's 261 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: just her short temper, rotten human being. But it really 262 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: is an insight into a couple things about these politicians, 263 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: because it's not like she's a Democrat. But there was 264 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: a big X was eight years ago about and I 265 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: think it was Politico on how horrendous it is to 266 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: work for Todd Rokita. I think when he was still 267 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: a congressman, they did this and it was just devastating 268 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: on what a just rotten person he is and how 269 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: he treats his staff and et cetera. You can go 270 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: back and find out again. I think it was Politico, 271 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: But these politicians, that was a real insight into their 272 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: mindset one they think. And this is why we rarely 273 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: do guests on this program because we do very well 274 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: and we prove we don't need you. These politicians in 275 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: their minds, they believe they're needed in order for media 276 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: or television or radio programs to succeed. Well, how could 277 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: you succeed without the politicians? Most politicians are really boring 278 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: and people turn the channel when they're on unless there's 279 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: some you know, pressing issue like Braun was on yesterday 280 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: with Hammer and Nigel a whole bunch of pressing issues. 281 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: He wasn't aware of many of them, but they would. 282 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: She should have been right, and that was the takeaway. 283 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as Hammer said, hey, I want to get 284 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: him on record responding to this. 285 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: But a lot of times these politicians think, well, I'm 286 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: a senator, I'm a representative, I'm the governor. You need 287 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: to know they're really boring. That was her approach, right, 288 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: like who are you to ask me questions? Who are 289 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: you to try to make me take a position on 290 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: something I don't want to take a position on. She 291 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: didn't say it verbatim, but she was essentially saying I'm 292 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: done here, and the insinuation was what are you going 293 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: to do without me? Right? 294 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: Like you need me more than I need you. 295 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: No, it actually goes the other way around, and she 296 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: claimed that she had never had to do that before, 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: implying that she's never had to answer tough questions, and 298 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: her campaign went on to say that, you know, the 299 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: interview went on. 300 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: And lasted an extra twenty minutes after that. 301 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: The other part of this, which is fascinating is, and 302 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: you'll see this with politicians, they do not want to 303 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: be held to account on things that they can't bs 304 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: their way through. And in that case, she looks at 305 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: it as well, if I admit something positive about a 306 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: Trump voter, my base is so extreme, they might use 307 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: that against me the base of the Democrat Party, if 308 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: she were to say, because the obvious answer to that 309 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: would be, look, I'm going to try to win every 310 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: vote i can. I'm going to run on a list 311 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: of priorities, and I'm going to run on a list 312 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: of principles, and I look forward to selling that to 313 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: the people of this state and how my administration will 314 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: make their lives. I mean, I'm just winging this right. 315 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: You can't respond to even better, and I'm gonna make 316 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: their lives better. And I hope that I can win 317 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: every single person, regardless of whether they voted for Donald 318 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Trump or not. But in her mind. First of all, 319 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: she is a radical leftist, so she's telling you how 320 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: she views those people. But she also knows that her base, 321 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the base of voters in a primary in California is 322 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: so left in most cases now they do that, they 323 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: do that what I think they call it a jungle 324 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: primary in California, where it's not like Republicans have a 325 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: primary and Democrats have a primary. Everybody runs, and then 326 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: the top two people then run against each other in 327 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: the fall. Now, oftentimes it does end up being a 328 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Republican or versus Democrat, but you could theoretically have two Democrats, 329 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: or a Democrat and an independent or whatever. But she 330 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: knows the majority of people voting are going to be 331 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: so left that she can't answer that question in a 332 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: way that she can spin it. So she's just gonna 333 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: like indict the reporter. 334 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Who's asking her, right, And if she can't answer these 335 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: basic questions from a reporter being on the opposite political 336 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: side of the president, I mean, how is she expected 337 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: to stand up for what she wants when she goes 338 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: to DC or you know, has to deal with larger issues. 339 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Well, you just hit the nail on the head. And 340 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: that's the third part of this thing that I wanted 341 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: to talk about, which is that they show you how 342 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: weak they actually are. Why did Braun stop talking to me? 343 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: You just talk to Braun and his people all the 344 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: time during property at tack, during the legislative session, because 345 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: they know it's done right. They exposed themselves. Instead of 346 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: owning it and saying, hey Rob, we failed, Hey Rob, 347 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: we let you down, Hey Rob, we failed your audience 348 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: right and figure out how we could work together, they 349 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: just cut it off. Now they have those meetings, right, 350 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: They're still having these meetings that the governor's managed with 351 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the same people they were talking to before. 352 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: But we don't get invited anymore. Why because they can't 353 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: manipulate us, they can't use us. They know we see 354 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: through it, They know we don't need them, that we 355 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: don't view it as some sort of Oh I'm so 356 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: lucky I got invited to the place that I have 357 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: to pay for. And so she showed so much in 358 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: this interview, not just of who she is, but you 359 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: can extrapolate this out to so many of these politicians 360 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: and how they view any sense of accountability and how 361 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: they view you as a taxpayer. 362 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: She's running to replace Gavin Newsom, and she was the 363 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: front runner with a seven point lead. I wonder what 364 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: it is now if this will affect her. 365 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's what's interesting is she got like so often 366 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: these people will behave just like total imbeciles, and then 367 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: they'll spend it as I was fighting for so and 368 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: so right like a great example of this. We'll mention 369 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: him again, Todd Rokeita. He goes on Fox News and 370 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: behaves totally inappropriate for the Attorney General, which is why 371 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: he's got all these issues in front of the Disciplinary Commission, 372 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: not because he had a First Amendment or an opinion 373 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: or whatever. Their rules and regulations as an attorney and 374 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: he has a very high bars attorney general, he did 375 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: not adhere to that right. That's why he signed that 376 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: that agreement, which then he went back on, and that's 377 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: why he's back in front of the commission again. And 378 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: and but the point is he tries to spin this as, oh, 379 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: they're coming after my First Amendment rights, They're coming after 380 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: me because I'm pro life. They're coming No, moron, they're 381 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: coming after you because there are rules of conduct for 382 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: your profession and you did not adhere to those rules 383 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: of your profession. But I don't know how she's gonna 384 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: spin that because that reporter wasn't grilling her on any 385 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: hot button topic that she can say. 386 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: Katie Border just didn't like the follow up exactly. 387 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: She just did like it's an unhinged, entitled, elitist, rotten 388 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: human being who exposed exactly what she is. 389 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 390 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 6: Johnie Johnie Johnnie Joys. 391 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: So whatever I thought Dollar Parton was gonna die, well, 392 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: her sister put out a message saying she needed prayers 393 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: because she was having. 394 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: Some medical procedures done. And Dolly Parton, oh see. 395 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: This is the problem. What like was she having Like 396 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I got an ingrown toenail? I mean we still pray 397 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: for that. 398 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, they didn't say what the medical procedures were. 399 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: So you think, you see this and you think she's 400 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: having a medical procedure, she needs prayers. What did she have? 401 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, some horrible bowel disease or like what is 402 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: going on here? And then people started a course at 403 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: social media and everybody starts jumping the gun and these 404 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: are the waning days of Dolly Parton. To the wine 405 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: where she had to come put a. 406 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: Video out right, Well she did. 407 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: She had postponed her Las Vegas residency to focus on recovery. 408 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: But Dolly Parton did put out a message and she said, 409 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: I ain't dead yet. 410 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 6: Hey, Natalie, bring your camera over here. 411 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: I want to say something. 412 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 6: Well, the day's October the eighth, and obviously I'm here 413 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 6: doing some commercials for the Grand Ola Oppery, which just 414 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 6: why I'm driss, kind of like a old country Western girl. 415 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 6: But before I got started, I wanted to say, I 416 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 6: know lately everybody thinks that I am sicker than I am. 417 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: Do I look sick to you? 418 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 6: I'm working hard here anyway. I wanted to put everybody's 419 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: mind at ease. Those of you that seemed to be 420 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 6: real concern, which I appreciate, and I appreciate your prayers. 421 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 6: Because I'm a person of faith, I can always use 422 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 6: the prayers for anything and everything. But I want you 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 6: to know that I'm okay. I've got some problems. As 424 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 6: I mentioned back when my husband Carl was very sick. 425 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 6: That was for a long time, and then when he passed, 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 6: I didn't take care of myself, so I let a 427 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 6: lot of things go that I should have been taken 428 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 6: care of. So anyway, when I got around to it, 429 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 6: the doctor said, we need to take care of this, 430 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 6: We need to take care of that. Nothing major, but 431 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: I did have to cancel some things so I could 432 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 6: be closer to home, closer to van about you know where. 433 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 6: I'm kind of having a few treatments here and there. 434 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: But I wanted you to know that I'm not dying. 435 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: She said she was going in for her one hundred 436 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: thousand mile check up. Okay, so she did say it 437 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: wasn't She said it wasn't related to plastic surgery. 438 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: Now she is seventy nine years old. 439 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: Her and I share a birthday. 440 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: You have the same birthday. 441 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's crazy. 442 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. So she will. She will be 443 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: eighty next January. So we're not dealing with the spring 444 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: chicken here anymore. No, And she does sound much like 445 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: if you don't hear her every day. I mean, but 446 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure anybody is that way if you go year like, 447 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I just gotta admit I have not heard Dolly Parton's voice, 448 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: and probably a year or more. Why would I, you know, 449 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: So she does sound like she's getting a little long 450 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: in the tooth. But again, this is like the world 451 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: in which we live or some person, and I'm sure 452 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: there was nothing malicious by It was the sister, right 453 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: who put this out, but you're not specific. And then 454 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: everybody rushes to conclusion, and you know, hopefully she'll be fine. 455 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: She's a national treasure and sounds like she's doing better. 456 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, just some routine stuff. 457 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: She said she didn't take care of herself when she 458 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: was taking care of her husband, so now she's got 459 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: to do that. But when you cancel a residency in 460 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: Las Vegas and then your sister puts out pray for Dolly, yeah, 461 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: people are going to jump to conclusions because, as you mentioned, 462 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: she is almost eighty. However, I don't know if you 463 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: saw the video from that we just played. She has 464 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: no wrinkles anywhere. 465 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Well, she's had some work, there's no there's no like yeah, 466 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: she's like, it is not okay. It is not natural 467 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: for people to be in their sixties and seventies and 468 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: not have wrinkles, Like, I'm sorry, you look ridiculous. And 469 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: so many of these celebrities do this now and that's 470 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: just part of the aging process, right, Like there's things 471 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: you can do to maybe not be as wrink a 472 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: lee or whatever. But the idea that you're just like 473 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't unless you're me, who doesn't age. 474 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: Or ever gain weight. 475 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 2: Then Okay, So she's continuing on. She launched a new 476 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: musical called Dolly Parton's Threads. My song's in symphony, and 477 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: she's continuing to perform, planning to open a hotel in 478 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: downtown Nashville. She's, like, she said, she's doing something for 479 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: the Grand Old Opery. 480 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: So she is continuing on. 481 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: But that just goes to show you where people get 482 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: their news and where people have to put out their messages. 483 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: There was some new research that came out social media 484 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: playing a huge role in news consumption. Fifty three percent 485 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: of adults say that they get their news from social media. 486 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Okay, my question this would be when we say I 487 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: get my news from social media, do you mean like, hey, 488 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: there was a Fox News article linked on social media, 489 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: or my neighbor Harold was on social media. That would 490 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: be a question for me. I'm going to guess that 491 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: it also includes my neighbor on social media. 492 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: That's an interesting point because are they talking just about 493 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: that's just the distribution. 494 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: If it's an article that was on Facebook or x are. 495 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: We including like this was on the towny chatter board, 496 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: so you know what exactly does that entail? That would 497 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: probably be the first question I would have about this. 498 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: But the reality is people are now more and more 499 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: going away from traditional media sources. And there are traditional 500 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: medias that like us, that continue to do very well. 501 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: But a large part of that is we give people 502 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: things that can't get anywhere else, and most legacy media 503 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: type institutions have not had the sustained success WIBC, this show, 504 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: et cetera has had. It's just easy to go somewhere else. 505 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: It's just easy when it's all on your phone. You 506 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and I were having this conversation earlier today, in fact, 507 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: about the changing landscape of media. And you remember some 508 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: program director or some radio consultant twenty five years ago 509 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: telling you the about the iPod. The it was yeah, 510 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: the three Players. 511 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: It was a consultant in the year was two thousand 512 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: and he had just come back from a trip over 513 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: in Europe and he was saying, how you guys don't 514 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: even know what's coming, because over in Europe those people 515 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: are walking around with twenty thousand songs in their hip 516 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: and you know, in their hip pocket. And that was 517 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: as MP three was coming out, and he said this 518 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: is all going to be on your phone. Just wait 519 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: and see. And there were people in the room who 520 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: were like, nah, that's not going to happen. And the 521 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: industry failed to adjust to that because it did happen. 522 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, the less you make people work, the 523 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: more they're going to gravitate to that thing. And the 524 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: reality is, if there's something in your pocket, something and 525 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: you can just pull it out at any given time 526 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: and instantly search, people are going to be are going 527 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: to gravitate to that. And unless you give them a 528 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: compelling reason to go somewhere else. I mean, the internet 529 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: is a crazy thing. My dad and I were having 530 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: a conversation yesterday and we were talking about an obscure person. 531 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: Not to say the person's life didn't matter whatever, but 532 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about an obscure person. Like nobody would 533 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: know this person. You know, they weren't famous, not like 534 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: even they had a moment. And the sun is just 535 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: like an obscure person. And we were having a debate 536 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: about this person, and it was able to look it up, 537 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: and of course I was right, of course that I 538 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: was saying. Sure, But it's like, that's wild that we 539 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: have reached that point in our society where you can 540 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: reach into your pocket, let me check beat beat, beat 541 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: beat beep. Oh yeah, that's that's what happened. That's crazy. 542 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what the dude does a lot. 543 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: We'll be watching a show, whether it's this series or 544 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: something historical, and as it is on the television, he'll 545 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: be on his phone looking up all of the information 546 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 2: about the person to see if Hollywood exaggerated or how 547 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 2: truthful the script actually is. Right. 548 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: And you've seen, like I said, you've seen with legacy 549 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: media in this city, like the paper of record is 550 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: the Star, the radio station of record is WIBC, and 551 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: you have seen how the Star has obviously shifted, not exclusively, 552 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: but getting there more and more by the day to 553 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: an online footprint. The sort of and style of reporting 554 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: they do has had to change, and you've seen changes 555 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: here with how the radio business works. I mean, look, 556 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: one of the unique things about the a unique thing 557 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: about WIBC is every one of our shows are different. 558 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Like what Tony does is markedly different from what we do. 559 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: What we do is markedly different what Hammer in Nigel does. 560 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: And an interesting thing is there is often not oftentimes, 561 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: but a lot of times. I guess that's the same 562 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: word more frequently than not, conflict of opinion. Like we 563 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: view redistricting much different than Tony does yep, and we 564 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: view other things different than Hammer and Nigel do, And 565 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: so you don't just get the same opinion throughout the 566 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: course of the day. And so that is something you 567 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: can't get anywhere. So people still come here. But other 568 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: than that, radio is a collective, it's it's struggled. 569 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: I was shocked to see this statistic. 570 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: The most popular platform for news. What do you think 571 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: it is of social media? I would say Twitter, that's 572 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: where conservatives get their news the most, but Facebook, it 573 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: goes Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and then x. 574 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Twitter's last, Twitter's last. 575 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: Wow. 576 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: Overall, it is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three, w ib. 577 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 6: C, Jilly Johnny. 578 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: They don't take it even though you care. 579 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's Amy and Casey. 580 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: The AI stuff is totally out of control eyed place 581 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: it is. 582 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've seen a lot of 583 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: the AI videos circulating. 584 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: Right now, but you've got a bunch with Bob Ross 585 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: where he's doing different paintings, and you have JFK and MLK. 586 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 2: There's one of JFK where he's a disc jockey at 587 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: a club. Sure, and Stephen Hawking doing all sorts of 588 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: tricks in his wheelchair. And now the daughter of Robin 589 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: Williams has come out and she on Instagram Monday said 590 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: please stop sending me ai videos of my dad. 591 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so, of course, Robin Williams, what has this 592 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: been ten years ago? Now, I don't know exactly when 593 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: it was. It's been quite a while though most people 594 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: are where you he committed suicide, famous comedian actor, and 595 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: then you know, documentaries, et cetera have come out that 596 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: he had serious mental health issues, struggled with the variety 597 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: of things over many many years. And I'm sure even 598 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, even though she's an adult now and I 599 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: believe she was even an adult when he had passed away. 600 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: That she's thirty six. 601 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so, cause there was a very good documentary 602 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: done about kind of the last days of Robin Williams 603 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: and the mental health struggles and and but I'm sure 604 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: even as an adult being able to sort of process 605 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: certainly better than you would as a child. Losing a 606 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: parent in that manner is just a level of grief 607 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: beyond description. And then your parent is super famous, so 608 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: you're constantly reminded of them, and now people are doing 609 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: things and sending you things that aren't even them. 610 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said that you're not making art. 611 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: You're making disgusting overprocessed hot dogs out of the lives 612 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: of human beings, out of the history of their art 613 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: and music, then shoving them down someone else's throat hoping 614 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: you'll get a little thumbs up or alike. 615 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's gross. 616 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: So you had in a good point, which is for 617 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: all this huffing and puffing about Well, AI is going 618 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: to change the future of medicine and all these and 619 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: very well made makes sten lives, and that's wonderful. But 620 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the stuff AI appears to currently 621 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: be being used for, at least in the visual of 622 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: the average American member of the American public, is garbage. 623 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: It in no way betters humanity, It in no way 624 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: makes human life better, more sustainable, nothing. It's just people 625 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: screwing screwing around, right, And it's not in any way 626 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: contributing to the betterment of humanity, no offence of Hammer Nigel. 627 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: Their ais are very funny, but it's not like it's 628 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: life altering stuff, right, they're. 629 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: Just having some fun. Well, she brings up a good point. 630 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: She said, with all of this AI mimicking real voices 631 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: and likeness, you're doing that without the person's consent, and 632 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: especially if the person is no longer with us, they 633 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: clearly can't consent to that. 634 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: And I saw something with like mister Rogers in a 635 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: wrestling ring the other day, and I was like, what 636 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: what does this have to do with anything? 637 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: Like? 638 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: How is this in any way contributing? Is this what 639 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: our data centers are excused for? Right? 640 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: Exactly? Is this why my utility bill is going up? 641 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 2: So somebody can put a deceased famous person in awkward 642 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: situation or in a place they would never have been. 643 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: I mean, like the moment JFK I saw, he said, 644 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: ask not what your country can do for you, but 645 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: ask what you can do to shake that thing. And he's, 646 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: you know, being a disc jockey at a club. 647 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: And we've talked about this for several years now that 648 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: it's getting better. Oh yeah, it's much better than it 649 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. And I don't know 650 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: if you're this way now, but every video I see 651 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I now have to wait because I just there's a 652 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: part of me in my head that I say, is 653 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: that AI? Has that been doctored? Has that been messed with? 654 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: Oh? Sure there's a lot now, especially when I go 655 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: through and do the template. I got to make sure, 656 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: like there's multiple sources using that same quote to make 657 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: sure it's legit, you know. 658 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: Or I just thought about it. The other day was 659 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: when the video came out on Mark Sanchez of him 660 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: stumbling around downtown after the altercation, and I thought, well, 661 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: that's an incredible video. But then I said, well, I'm 662 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: not sharing this yet because. 663 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: You don't know is it fake? 664 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: Is it AI? 665 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: And you don't want to be the person here who's 666 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: putting it out there as legitimate news. Somebody comes back 667 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: and says, hey, dork, yeah that's fake. 668 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to give somebody a freebie to say, hey, moron, 669 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: that wasn't real. 670 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 5: Right. 671 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: Well. 672 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: Zelda Williams, that is Robin Williams's daughter, she said that 673 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: all of this AI content is just horrible TikTok slop, 674 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: isn't it? 675 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: Fascinating too about how many people find some sort of 676 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: worth in making that their existence. 677 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: What do you mean creating? 678 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, just making these videos. 679 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, they're getting paid to do it because they're getting 680 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: well you're right, views, yeah, likes and hits off of it. 681 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely correct. 682 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: They're benefiting off of somebody else's sorrow. In many cases, what. 683 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: Did these sort of people do before there was the Internet? 684 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I get that many of these people weren't 685 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: even alive, but what did these people do? For these 686 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: types of people? How did they earn livings before the 687 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: Internet or how did they earn livings before a Twitter, Instagram? 688 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: Right talk? Where did they go? What did these sorts 689 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: of people do to sustain themselves? 690 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: Well, they probably had a job that they did not like, 691 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 2: buried themselves in a basement behind a computer. 692 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 693 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, well that's an uplifting story in the show today, Casey, 694 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: thank you for that. 695 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: Well, you're the real deal, Rob Kendall, nothing ai about you. 696 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Kevin, and thank you for listening today. 697 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 2: This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC