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Speaker 1: the crowd knows what's coming there, Wes, he did it

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Speaker 1: to you. It's official. It happens. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: We called him out on it. We said you were

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Speaker 1: getting a little cursy that we had our eyes on him,

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Speaker 1: and now it's a full blown Flounder curse your ms

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Speaker 1: it's the Toronto.

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Speaker 2: Blue Yeah, he cursed him at the beginning. He did

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Speaker 2: say Toronto would win last night. But yeah, man, I

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Speaker 2: mean it was one of those deals. I thought for

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Speaker 2: It felt like it, and then yeah, man, it felt

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Speaker 2: like it. But then that big home run came and

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Speaker 2: it was a rap and it was just like after that,

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Speaker 2: their bats were just crazy hot and Seattle couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: But so well, yeah, but no, it's not it's not okay.

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Speaker 1: You can say it's all good. I know you're hurting

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Speaker 1: a little bit with your baseball team out, and I

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Speaker 1: know Flounder off the rip just immediately said, oh it's

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Speaker 1: two nothing you guys have. He's so strong with his.

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Speaker 3: Literally everybody in the sports said the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: This is on This is on Seattle for blowing it. No,

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Speaker 1: it's on you, it's on you. Yeah. I didn't hear that, right,

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Speaker 1: is it? Because I don't listen to baseball takes. Possibly

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Speaker 1: I only heard one baseball take and that was your

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Speaker 3: Can you tell me how many teams in the history

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Speaker 1: One this year, four one this year? The total have

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Speaker 1: done that? How many of those have been recent? Not

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Speaker 1: not that I can remember. Well, I guess we're talking

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Speaker 1: about something the last almost twenty in the AAR. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it happened again in the AL and I think

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Speaker 1: all eyes are on Flounder now. Where this is the

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Speaker 1: question has the Matt curse actually played out in any

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Speaker 1: because I have not heard anything on the Matt curse striking.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know if it's struck Flounder that

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Speaker 1: That's my only question, because are we do we really

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Speaker 3: Because there is someone in this room that had my

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Speaker 3: football team going eleven and one and now we are

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Speaker 3: two in from That's true.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're trying to deflect though. No, but that

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Speaker 1: that's fair though, I mean, because are we allowed to

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Speaker 1: say that West curse North Carolina football by saying they

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Speaker 1: were going to go eleven and one, and.

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Speaker 2: That's a curse. I'll be glad to do that one.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it every year. You're going to take advantage

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Speaker 2: of your powers, I'll do it every Yeah, that that's true.

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Speaker 2: I'm in a national championship the next seasons.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the only one with any decency in the room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but not where you've won the first two on

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Speaker 3: the road. That's the shocking part about this.

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Speaker 1: BlackBerry saying the Dodgers in four. I mean, if we

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Speaker 1: every year, But it does look like this thing is

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Speaker 2: At the longest World series Ody was in the last

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Speaker 1: But it's just the Dodgers are way too dominant. Man.

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Speaker 3: People didn't give the Blue Jays much of a chance

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the FanDuel text line seven oh four

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Speaker 1: five seven oh ninety six ten. We're reading your text

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Speaker 1: messages all day long on wesn. Walker seven oh four

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Speaker 1: So if everybody has it unlike the baseball take because

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Speaker 2: Within the last few looked great. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's go, let's get it, Okay, San Francisco. I

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Speaker 1: Ultra nostalgia. Really living up to his name here when

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Speaker 1: That's the issue with Andy. He's turning the ball over

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton I think does bring that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be here to throw

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Speaker 1: against Green. Yeah, about as good as I got. This

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Speaker 2: And the most popular guy in town is always the

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Speaker 1: Okay. The Panthers got way better marks on re grades

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Speaker 3: Well, shout out to Drake. His team didn't get jinks

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Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: here in America seven oh four five, seven oh ninety

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Speaker 1: Well, and I say that with no judgment. I don't

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Speaker 1: I do want to know how many of you guys

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Speaker 1: I love the cheating. I'm a fan of. If you're

436
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Speaker 1: not cheating, you're not trying, unless you go to deflate football. Yeah,

437
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Speaker 1: I like I do enjoy dynasties. There's been some that

438
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Speaker 1: I've loved.

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Speaker 2: I think sports needed they need somebody to root against

440
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 2: and they need somebody to root for. And you know,

441
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Speaker 2: I'm the guy that I like to seedynasties to either

442
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: see them win or see them lose, because like Alabama,

443
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: I respected the hell out of them for what they

444
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: were and I wanted to see them on the big

445
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 2: stage to get beat like that was the thing I

446
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: enjoyed about it. Or you know, like Floyd Mayweather. I

447
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,239
Speaker 2: would watch his fights because I wanted to see if

448
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 2: somebody was going to beat him. So it's just different

449
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 2: teams for me if I like them or out. Like

450
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: Golden State, I was all the way in. I didn't

451
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Speaker 2: care if they won ten in a row to Miami Heat.

452
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to see them lose. So the connection here

453
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: is the Dodgers. They look like the dynasty they are. Yeah,

454
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: they are the dynasty. I know this is so sports

455
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: Radio we can call them that, right. Do they have

456
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: to win this? Yeah? Yeah, they got to win. Probably

457
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 2: you got to get three rings to be a dynasty.

458
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Speaker 2: Well not in a row, but you got to get

459
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Speaker 2: three rings at least in a decade. Or three rings

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Speaker 2: in a short time span dynasty, right.

461
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Speaker 3: And the other thing is is that the other ring

462
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Speaker 3: that they have besides the one that they got last year,

463
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Speaker 3: was during COVID, So a lot of people don't necessarily

464
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Speaker 3: count that as a they got that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got they got the.

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Speaker 3: COVID year rings. So I mean, I think if they

467
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 3: win this year their start, they're getting into dynasty territory.

468
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: They're already incredibly hateable, so I think they're certainly in

469
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Speaker 3: that realm.

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Speaker 1: So the Patriots are the ones that I go to

471
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: because they won three and four years and then they

472
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: won three again in a six year span where they

473
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Speaker 1: won lose, one lose, one lose, so it was alternating

474
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Speaker 1: super Bowls. And the Spurs we often consider a dynasty,

475
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Speaker 1: but those championships are all spread out. I mean, this

476
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: is real summer type stuff that we're doing right now.

477
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: But the Dodgers, it might just happen. Time to talk

478
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: about it might just happen because they have the star,

479
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: they have multiple stars, they have multiple MVPs, they have

480
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Speaker 1: Mookie Betts, Freddy Freeman Show, Hey O tani Who. It's

481
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: not enough to say that he is an MVP candidate.

482
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: We have to talk about him like he might be

483
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: the best baseball player of all time. Yes, it's crazy.

484
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: They got all of them. Show Hey, by himself is

485
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Speaker 1: two MVP candidates because of his pitching and hitting. And

486
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Speaker 1: they also have Freddie Freeman, who you know, I love

487
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Speaker 1: and think is a first ballot Hall of Famer, which

488
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Speaker 1: is no small thing in the world of baseball. I

489
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Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be first ballot because you know

490
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Speaker 1: my soapboxes about the baseball riders. I can't stand him,

491
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Speaker 1: but he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

492
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Speaker 1: And Mookie Betts is an out just straight up hall

493
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Speaker 1: of famer. We've got all of them. Show Hey. He's

494
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Speaker 1: about to win his third straight MVP. I think Aaron

495
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Speaker 1: did Aaron Judge get it last year?

496
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Speaker 3: Did it?

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Speaker 1: Or was it two years? Al? Yes, third straight AL MVP?

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Speaker 1: So is that right? Kindness graat third straight an L yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: would be yes. I believe that is correct. I believe

500
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Speaker 1: that is correct. Yes, I mean it's crazy. And so

501
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: if the Dodgers, yeah, because your boy might win AL MVP.

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Speaker 2: Cal Roley Big Nonia won in twenty three, okay, so

503
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Speaker 2: willing one in twenty four. So that's the only one

504
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Speaker 2: he's got. Okay, he would win consecutive MVP, is it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if they win the championship and they have all

506
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: of these players, and you talk about a dominant performance

507
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: as well, where I mean winning every game but one

508
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: is on the table for this squad, and even if

509
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: they only lose two, that's on the table. That's still

510
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: an unbelievable accomplishment.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, this didn't read Okay, okay, this would

512
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Speaker 2: be three because in twenty twenty three he won it

513
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Speaker 2: in the AL. In twenty twenty four he won it

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Speaker 2: in the NL.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Yep, that whole switching teams things that'll

516
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: do it to you. Yeah, and then he also got

517
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Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing overall to credit us, his Angel's

519
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: career is almost so forgettable because they never made the playoffs.

520
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't think about it like that, him playing

521
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Speaker 2: with the Angels anymore.

522
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Speaker 1: It doesn't and it wasn't that long ago, but you

523
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: don't even think about it at all. The Angels organization

524
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Speaker 1: is where you go to win MVPs and also be

525
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: completely irrelevant. Yep, that's where you go. Albert Poohols, Actually

526
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 1: the first year with the Angels isn't as bad as

527
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: people remember. But he was with the Angels and it

528
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: was not as good as it was.

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Speaker 3: Lookkay back then they were decent. They would make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't doing a whole lot though. That was

531
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Speaker 1: when the experiment of paying Albert Pouhols and Josh Hamilton

532
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: all that money. I mean, they that's where you go

533
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: if you're an MVP candidate, you go to the Angels

534
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: organization to lose all of your ability won or to

535
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: be completely irrelevant and hold on to your ability. I

536
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: want to constantly get hurt like Mike Child. Yeah, Mike Trout,

537
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: I hate it for him. Yeah, you talk about becoming

538
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: irrelevant here in a while. Okay, we'll see what happens

539
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers. A bunch of people saying they will

540
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: watch it. A couple people saying that I live in

541
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina, why would I care about baseball? There are

542
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: a few of those people. I think that performance gave

543
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: it some juice.

544
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: If Atany was still struggling like he had been prior

545
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: to that performance, I think that would have kind of

546
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: calmed things down a bit. But I think he definitely

547
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: added the juice back to it with that performance, because

548
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: people want to see what he's going.

549
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: To do next. I mean, that was the last time

550
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: that we saw him three home runs. Ten K's last

551
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: baseball point is off the heels of Carolina Chris who

552
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: writes in the Dodgers they bought their way to the chip.

553
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: While Vladdie has my full support as a Tigers fan,

554
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: Go Blue Jays. You know Vlad Guerrero. I think he's

555
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: probably my favorite baseball player of all time. It's him,

556
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: It's Chris Saoh, it's Ken Griffy, There's a couple. But

557
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Vladdy Daddy, he's the guy up there for me, and

558
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: so I'm going to cheer for his son, Dale Earnhardt

559
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: slash Dale Junior style. That's what happened in my fandom

560
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: and NASCAR, It's kind of happened here in baseball. So

561
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: I would not mind watching Vlad Junior get a World

562
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: Series championship. And he's been incredible. He's adding four forty

563
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: four in the postseason, so he's doing a lot to

564
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: help the Blue Jays on their run. But anyways, I

565
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: just wanted to share my love for Vladdy Daddy once again.

566
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: Let's switch Gears. Let's go back to the Carolina Panthers

567
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: conversation ESPN dot com. They put out a regrading of

568
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: some of the nd season trades from last year, and

569
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: there were only like seven to choose from West, but

570
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: the Panthers. They had a couple trades listed just within

571
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Speaker 1: the seven that were listed. One trade was the Panthers

572
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: movie on from Deontay Johnson after they traded him to

573
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens along with a sixth round pick in

574
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and what they received was a twenty

575
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: twenty five fifth round pick. You know, we're about a

576
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: week away from the one year anniversary of trading Deontay

577
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: Johnson and watching his career eventually come to an end.

578
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I'll get us a cake. We should eat a big

579
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: old cake.

580
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: And you know what, I think we should just go

581
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: down and get some ice cream.

582
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got forty eight gallons down there. Another monster.

583
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: Shout out to Tony's ice Cream for providing us stuff.

584
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I said gallons yesterday, I should be accurate and say

585
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: half gallons even still, four and a half gallons of

586
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: ice dog on ice cream, buddy, Yeah, four and a

587
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 1: half gallons, nine half gallons of ice cream, grape, chocolate, butter, pecumin, fia.

588
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: It was. I mean, it's so great ice cream.

589
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: I mean we are not sitting up pick cap and

590
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: a blowing smoke because he brought it to us. The

591
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: grape I was skeptical about when he first bought it up.

592
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'm not sure how much, because

593
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a little too sweet,

594
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: a little too grapey. But it's like you get the

595
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: hit of grape when you first taste it, and then

596
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: you get the traditional ice cream taste to it.

597
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: Man.

598
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: I enjoyed a very much shout out to Tony's gas

599
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: house all day.

600
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: I thought the chocolate would be the one that I

601
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: would like the most, and I do like the chocolate

602
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: a lot.

603
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: I will now taste different. It's a half dollon. It's

604
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: a little different, to be honest with you, with the

605
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: chocolate compared to normal chocolate. And it's amazing.

606
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: It's great. The grape might have been better.

607
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: The grape was, That's what I'm saying, man, And I

608
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: like THATI Piicano's my favorite flavor, and that was solid

609
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: as well.

610
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: It was very good in my opinion. Great crunch all right,

611
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: So anyways, huge shout out to Tony's who Tony Man,

612
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: you know what's cool about them? My guy Mike. Shout

613
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: out to Mike for the guy that was actually to

614
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: the guy that's actually bringing us to ice cream. He said, Hey,

615
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to mention us, that's fine.

616
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: It's whatever. We just really appreciate what you guys do

617
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: and we appreciate getting some love and it's not like

618
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: we're crazy interested and you know, having a whole bunch

619
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Speaker 1: of advertisement. What were he to do is just you know,

620
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: serve people ice cream and be cool about it when

621
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: people roll into the restaurant like, okay, so y'all are

622
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: just as chill as possible pun intended. That's what y'all

623
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: are down at Tony's and Gas.

624
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: How next time I'm out there, I need to go

625
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: in there, because, like I said, I hadn't been in

626
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: there since I was little, because I got family, a

627
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: lot of family that lived down and I'm from that way,

628
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: so I'm very familiar, but I hadn't been in there

629
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: in decades upon decade.

630
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Very Mayberry vibe. They've been in business for over one

631
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: hundred years and just everybody is your friendly neighbor. That's

632
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: what it is. Everybody knows everybody anyways, awesome stuff. Another

633
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: shout out to Tony's back to Deontay Johnson, No shout

634
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: out to him. Yes, he came in, helped us out

635
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: for maybe like a couple of games. That was about it.

636
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: Those would be the last decent games, the last days

637
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: of Deonte of his career. So the Panthers traded him

638
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: away to Baltimore October twenty ninth. They didn't even get

639
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: to November before they were done with that experiment with Deontay.

640
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: He gets traded to Baltimore for that twenty twenty five

641
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. The Ravens remember the day course at

642
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: the time, and hey, sometimes you're wrong, sometimes you're loud wrong.

643
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: I was loud wrong on Deontay Johnson, loud in your face, loud,

644
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: we always, we all get it. The original grade for

645
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: that trade was the Ravens getting an A and the

646
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: Panthers got a D. So now the new grade for

647
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: that is the Ravens getting a C because eventually they

648
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: didn't risk a whole lot to go get him. But

649
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: it drops from an A to a C for Baltimore,

650
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: and it goes from a D to a beat plus

651
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: for Carolina. That's a good redo. It's a it's a

652
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: great regrade. You don't quite get the A, but you

653
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: move on from Deontay Johnson. The Panther still gained some

654
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: momentum in the second half of last season with Bryce

655
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: coming into his own, Adam Theland becomes your number one.

656
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Cocher blossoms as this other route runner that can

657
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: really help you out. And now Deontay hasn't done anything.

658
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about anything. He's out of the

659
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: league right now. I don't think he's on a current

660
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: roster as it stands. On October twenty first, just almost

661
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: a year away from when he got traded. Dan Morgan

662
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: winning that one and the other one just real quickly.

663
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: The Panthers got an A for trading Jonathan Mingo last

664
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: year that remains in A. After trading Jonathan Mingo in

665
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: a regrade, Dallas had a D. It's turned into an F.

666
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: Says that it should as it should, so two grades.

667
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: By the way, the Panthers one of the only teams,

668
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: maybe the only team on this list, that were regraded

669
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: for their trades in season and great grades either originally

670
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: given that hold up or that were changed. Now, Dan Morgan,

671
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: tip of the cap on some nice business that you

672
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: conducted last year, He certainly did.

673
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: And a thing that you like about it as the

674
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: diagnosis he didn't like. He didn't let something just linger

675
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: too long. He started to see quickly that Deontay Johnson

676
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: was a problem. He started to see some of the

677
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 2: issues that were there in Pittsburgh that he brought with them,

678
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: and he said, we're going to alleviate this rather quickly.

679
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: And then with Johnathan Mingo, he started to see, hey, man,

680
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: this guy just doesn't happen. I'm sure he sourced the

681
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: coaches and many others to try to figure out what's

682
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: going on.

683
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: Is this guy worth keeping?

684
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: It?

685
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: Was it? So he got him out of here. And

686
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: that's the type of environment that you want, because what

687
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: that does is it breeds competition, and it breeds guys

688
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: to really come in and be focused and ready to

689
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: go because they know, hey, if you're not on your job,

690
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: if you're not doing what you need to do, then

691
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: the panthers are going to figure out how to get

692
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: you out of here or how to move on from

693
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: you in whatever way possible. And I like that type

694
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: of environment in pro sports. I mean you talk about

695
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: the Old Cowboys and the Jerry Jones documentary and stuff

696
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: like that, and Jimmy Johnson cutting guys after he fumbled

697
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: a couple of times. I watch games all the time,

698
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: and the amount of times I say I cut that

699
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: guy when I'm watching this stuff.

700
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean that stuff breeds culture though.

701
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: When you do that, when guys know that they got

702
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: to bring it or they're going to be going, that's

703
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: what starts to build some of these dynasty type teams

704
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: that we're talking about.

705
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: New England was the same way and many others. Yeah,

706
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I think what this goes to show me. It's a

707
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: little similar to my take on Dave Canalis and making

708
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: some of those adjustments. Dan Morgan went after Deontay Johnson.

709
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: You didn't give a lot up. Dante Jackson was playing

710
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: quite well for the Chargers at the beginning of this year.

711
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I haven't checked on it nearly as much, but you

712
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: give up somebody that you weren't going to bring back

713
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: anyway in Dante Jackson. Right, this is the trade for

714
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: Deontay by the way, going back a little bit further

715
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: than the trade we're discussing with Deontay going to Baltimore,

716
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: So you don't give up a lot. I'd still think

717
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: you make that trade ten times out of ten. You

718
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: just didn't give up anything. You needed somebody that could separate.

719
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: You needed a wide receiver for Bryce Young after what

720
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: was a terrible rookie season. That is a good trade

721
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, which Dan Morgan was in charge of

722
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: that one, if I'm not mistaken. So you trade for

723
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson, cool having him on the team, deciding to

724
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: move on from him because you just didn't want that

725
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: attitude in the locker room anymore. I really thought that

726
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: they could have held out. I was more. I was

727
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: more of somebody that had an issue with the timing

728
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: of it, thinking that you could possibly get more somewhere

729
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: out there. And maybe that's the case, but you got

730
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: a fifth round somebody that's out of the league. You know,

731
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: how can you chastise that move anymore? Like that was

732
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: my problem with it at the time. But clearly nobody

733
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: was willing to give up a ton for Deontay. But

734
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: also Deontay just didn't do anything. It's one of the

735
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: wilder falloffs that I've seen, Like it's what we're not

736
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: a year removed from him having been traded to Baltimore,

737
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: and he hasn't done anything whatsoever except play his way

738
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: off of three rosters since then. Baltimore they didn't want

739
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: him anymore. Houston, they didn't want him anymore. When Deontay

740
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: was a part of a playoff team and was winding

741
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: because he didn't get the ball in a win and

742
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't want him. Cleveland nobody wanted him. So Dan Morgan,

743
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: tip of the cap.

744
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: To you, well not to mention that fifth rounder turned

745
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: into what looks to be a serviceable tight end right now.

746
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: It could get better. And Mitchell Levin, Mitchell Evans looks good.

747
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: He's playing better than he's playing better than JD. Just

748
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: send Notre Dame. Man.

749
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Fundamentals fundamentally sound good to go, man, you can count

750
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: on he's a steady eddy.

751
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Is that a derogatory No, I'm saying that's the type

752
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: of guys you want. If I know I can count

753
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: on you to run the right routes.

754
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: You know, from coming from Notre Dame, you gonna block,

755
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: You're gonna do the fundamental things correctly, man. So that's

756
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. At worse, when you pick a tight

757
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: end from Notre Dame. I mean you're gonna get a

758
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: decent player at worst. Yeah, that's been happening. Tommy Trimple

759
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: also from Notre Dame, so Carolina likes point. Michael Mayor, Oh,

760
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: he's been a little disappointed. I thought he was gonna

761
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: be nice.

762
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Mayor has been disappointing. And that's why the

763
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: drafted Rock Bowers over there with the Raiders. Last question

764
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: and we can just ask this. We'll come back with

765
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: some more Panthers conversation as well as take a look

766
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: at the Hornets season slash home opener tomorrow. Is Dan's

767
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: only outright miss at this point, the Brian Burns trade,

768
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: because Brian Burns looks awesome with the Giants and they

769
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: did not capitalize on the Rams offer. But that's not

770
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: when Dan In was the GM at that point. That

771
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: was still Scott Fitterer who said no to the Rams

772
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: offer when they could have gotten too first in a second,

773
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: which is still crazy. They eventually trade Brian Burns to

774
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: the Giants. They trade him for a second and a

775
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. He's playing better than that. He's playing

776
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: really really well rushing the passer, but would you want

777
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: to trade? Would you want to pay Brian Burns thirty

778
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: million dollars annually? I think he's living up to that contract. Yeah,

779
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: it looks like a bargain at this point, no doubt,

780
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: no doubt. So yeah, that's one mate. Well, let's chew

781
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: on that. We'll come back and maybe discuss it a

782
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: little bit more. I also want to get some hornets conversation.

783
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: It's Wes and Walker re bouncing all over the place.

784
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,760
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785
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786
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,680
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787
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Speaker 1: Bailey going to be with us at two o'clock to

788
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: talk Charlotte, maybe get a little bit more info on

789
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: the dismissal of Mike Hill and what is expected to

790
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: happen at the athletic director position over with Charlotte forty

791
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,720
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792
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: forty nine podcast, He'll be joining us again to start

793
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: off the two o'clock hour. One point I wanted to

794
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: make before we dive into the hornets opener tomorrow. I

795
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: wanted to make this point about Dan Morgan. I think

796
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: what I like the most is Dan Morgan is not

797
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: afraid to pull the plug on something if it's not

798
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: working within a few months, slash a relatively short time

799
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: after he makes the move where there might be somebody,

800
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: there are gms, there are decision makers that will really

801
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: subscribe to this sunk cost fallacy. Okay, well, we already

802
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: got him, we already use a draft pick on him.

803
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: We got to make it work somehow, some way, and

804
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: now it's the classic square peg round hole. It's not

805
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: going to fit. Guys. This is not an ideal situation

806
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: for him or you. It needs to change. Dan Morgan

807
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: is not afraid to move on from something that's not working.

808
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: And that goes back to my Dave Canalis point, which

809
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: I think I got lost on a tangent trying to

810
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: make that last segment. But Dan Morgan is doing a

811
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: great job of Hey my bad, y'all, I'm messed up.

812
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Let's move on. So they do that with Deontay. They

813
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: don't get to November with Deontay Johnson on the roster.

814
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: And I probably did subscribe to the sunk cost fallacy.

815
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: It's I'd speak out of both sides, out of my mouth.

816
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: On one hand, I'm like, man, you could have gotten

817
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: something more for him, right, like, let's let's try to

818
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: get something more for Deontay. But reality was you just

819
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: got to move on and get this throne. And I

820
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: was not I was loud wrong on Deontay. I think

821
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: we're all loud right on Jonathan Mingo. That was a

822
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: great trade. We could all see the riding on the wall.

823
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: He didn't give us anything to like in his rookie season.

824
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: A fourth round pick. Are you serious, Jerry, you're giving

825
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: us a fourth rounder? Okay, here, we'll pay shipping, Yeah,

826
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: to make you spit out your drink take them. Yeah.

827
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: And I hate to say that about Bingo. I hope,

828
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: I really do hope he figures it out. It's just

829
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: there's no signs that he's ever going to figure it

830
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: out in Dallas. And so that's a real asset, Man,

831
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: get drafted Mingo thirty ninth overall, it's really high. Or yeah,

832
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: thirty ninth overall if I'm not to stay or it's

833
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: second round, second round. Uh yeah, it's a real big

834
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: asset that you allocated to go get him. And then

835
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: you trade him after a year, you're done. So I

836
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: really commend Dan Morgan for assessing the situation in real

837
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: time constantly, just constantly having those check ins and then

838
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: making the decision that's best for the football team a year,

839
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: a month, a week removed from his original decision making process.

840
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: As I said, that is the type of stuff you

841
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: want to breed an environment, to breed a culture, because

842
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: in professionals, what you want guys to be able to

843
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: walk on eggshells to an extent, to know that they

844
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: need to be at that best. Otherwise you wouldn't try

845
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 2: to build depth, you wouldn't have good players or want

846
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: good players behind guys to be able to push them.

847
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: You want competition at all times. And so when you

848
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: start to have an environment like that where you know

849
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: going in, hey, if I get out of line, I'm

850
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: going to be out of here, then that's a great thing.

851
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: And that's where you look at some of the great

852
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: teams in this league and you start to see that. Now,

853
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: some great teams have a lot looser locker room than others.

854
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: But when you talk about the teams to where you

855
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: rarely hear lots of internal problems going on well, that's

856
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: one of the main reasons why is that they have

857
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: zero tolerance to low tolerance for the bull fishing.

858
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Lake Norman also brings up a great point. Maybe next

859
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: year this time, we're looking at another regrade of in

860
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: season trades, and they're going to bring up it's not

861
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: in season, but maybe it's one before the season starts.

862
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: And we look at the Panthers trading Adam Thielen to

863
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings for a fourth round pick. Looks pretty

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Speaker 1: damn good. Right now, I'll read you what Adam Thielen's

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Speaker 1: stats are at this time. He has five receptions forty

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Speaker 1: seven yards receiving. Wow. He had one reception against the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: two against the Steelers, two against the Falcons. In that

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Speaker 1: Falcons game September fourteenth. That's the most receiving yards he's

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Speaker 1: accumulated in a game this year with just twenty six again,

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Speaker 1: five receptions for forty seven yards. Wes, we're almost at

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Speaker 1: the halfway point. I think this is a little muddier

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Speaker 1: to discuss. The water is not as clear. If you

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Speaker 1: kept Adam Thielen, I think he would be more productive

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Speaker 1: than what he's showing in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say he'd have five for forty seven

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Speaker 2: and a half here At the same time, what who

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Speaker 2: does that say more about?

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Speaker 1: Probably says more about us. Right, If Adam Thlen's going

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota and he's not doing anything, we can call

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Speaker 1: it nothing. He's doing nothing. So if he goes to

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Speaker 1: Minnesota and does nothing and you got a fourth round

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Speaker 1: pick for him, Okay, he might have helped us out here.

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Speaker 1: That's not a small thing. I don't want to make

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Speaker 1: it a small thing. But I'm not saying the Panthers

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Speaker 1: lost that trade. You can't. In fact, you have to

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Speaker 1: say they want it. You got a fourth round pick

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Speaker 1: for somebody that doesn't have fifty yards at almost the

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Speaker 1: midway point of the seat. He had forty seven yards

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Speaker 1: in a few games last year, even with what was

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Speaker 1: an injury ridden season. And this is also somebody that

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Speaker 1: was going to retire at the end of this year.

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Speaker 1: And if you wanted to keep him and say practice

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Speaker 1: at four thirty, if you wanted to do that with

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Speaker 1: Adam Thieling, he was going to try to make a

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Speaker 1: mess of things in the locker room, which we just

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Speaker 1: commended Dan Morgan for getting rid of in the form

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Speaker 1: of Deontay Johnson. Yeah, I think he'd probably regrade that

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Speaker 1: as a B plus, at least in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I would think so too, because not only that, now

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Speaker 2: with the draft picks starting to take a turn for

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Speaker 2: the better, there's more trust with the draft capital now.

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Speaker 1: I mean if you were.

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Speaker 2: In a situation where you didn't trust your GM and

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Speaker 2: he said, well, it doesn't matter how many picks he get,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna flub him anyway. But now when you start

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Speaker 2: to say, Okay, this draft class looks pretty good, and

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Speaker 2: now you give him more bites at the apple, so

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Speaker 2: to speak, he say, all right, what could he turn

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Speaker 2: this fourth round pick into?

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Speaker 1: What could he turn his fifth or six?

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Speaker 2: Because that's another thing that I think that is showing

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Speaker 2: up about this draft that you have to feel good

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Speaker 2: about if these guys continue to play well. This has

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Speaker 2: been something that's plagued the Panthers in the past. They

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Speaker 2: weren't great really past the first round when you talk

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Speaker 2: drafting without or you know, you want to add a

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Speaker 2: few hits in maybe here or there. But now they're

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Speaker 2: starting to get to the meat of the draft. I

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Speaker 2: always say all the time that people talk about how

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Speaker 2: the backbone of the league is the fourth through the

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Speaker 2: seventh round picks, and so when you start to get

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Speaker 2: good at that, that's when you really start to build

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Speaker 2: a good football team in program.

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Speaker 1: Nelson says, just curious, what's Hunter renfro stats compared to

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Speaker 1: Adam Thielen. It's a great question, because Hunter Renfro I

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Speaker 1: don't think has provided the impact a lot of people

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Speaker 1: thought he would. Yeah. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken. Without

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Speaker 1: looking up Hunter Renfro's box score, Renfro had forty eight

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Speaker 1: yards in the Cardinals game alone and two touchdowns. That's

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Speaker 1: one more yard than Adam deeln has this entire season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's got fifteen catches, eighty nine yards, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: and he had forty eight yards in that one game alone.

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Speaker 1: That's one more yard than Deling has had all year.

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Speaker 1: And Hunter Renfro was a healthy scratch. Now that Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Horn is available and Jalen Cooker is available, no Hunter

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Speaker 1: Renfro in this game. And Hunter Renfro just even for

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Speaker 1: the moments, mind you, he had the moments against the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals to help him come back and make that a game.

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Speaker 1: And he also had the big fourth down conversion where

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Speaker 1: you're able to move on in that Dallas contest. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff with Dan Morgan man looking like he's on

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Speaker 1: the right side of history with some of these trades.

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Speaker 1: When we go back and look at it, we do

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Speaker 1: need to get to some Hornet stuff. Maybe a little

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Speaker 1: bit later on two o'clock hour can be reserved for that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited for a season starting tomorrow. We're also,

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Speaker 1: by the way, going to have a season preview show

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Speaker 1: tonight to kick off the season six to seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: That will be right after the Kyle Bailey Show. Smoke Ludwig,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be pulling double duty, going to be

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Speaker 1: in the studio for one more hour with me as

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Speaker 1: we break down the Hornet season. So again, stay tuned

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Speaker 1: all day long. Kyle Bailey Show from three to six.

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Speaker 1: Then it's going to be a Hornet's preview show close

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Speaker 1: to show. It'll be Yours Truly Elite nice. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: yours truly, Yours truly alongside Smoke Ludwig hosting that Hornet's

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Speaker 1: preview show again from six to seven o'clock. Campus Kuda

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