1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to start a Friday, isn't it. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Well everything is broke around here, and of course we're moving, 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: so nobody's like putting any effort into fixing anything. And 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: now my headset Jack has broke. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 3: So h do you need headphones? Well? I don't. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been at this twenty five years. I 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: should be able to put this together on my own, right. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: I mean, you tell me if I start sounding like 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Alvin the Chipmunk, you step right in. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: Great. 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Even if you did, I wouldn't tell you. 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: The microphone wasn't even on. The whole show is the 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Kidnel and Casey Show. I'm Rob caseyse here. Uh, we 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: got to talk about this article that was in the 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: Indiana Capitol Chronicle. These public education people are the greediest 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: bunch of pigs I have ever seen in my entire life. 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: They're disgusting. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so some of the school leaders, they're warning that 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the property tax reforms are destabilizing public education budget. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is and this is not the fault 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: of the Apple Chronicle. We love the Capitol Chronicle. We're 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: not blaming them. They're they're reporting on stuff that's going 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: on and when I'm talking about the pathetic, greedy pigs. 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people that run the public education system. 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: And one of the things he writes, look, this is 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: not sure about every public education administrator or teacher like 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say that, but I'm saying this 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: industry as a collective. They come off as the biggest 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: bunch of entitled elitists I have ever met. And what 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: I mean by that is whatever of yours they want, 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: they believe should be theirs. They don't give a damn 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: about you at all. Your finances, your ability to live, 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: they believe, and many people in government do. But we're 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: talking about the public education system here. They believe that 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: you work for them. Whatever we decide the taxes should be, 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: that's what it should be. Whatever we tell you to pay, 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: that's what you should pay. And this article, and by 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: the way, the amazing thing is none of these people 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: go on record. They won't put their name behind it 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: because they know deep down it's so disgusting. It's all 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: about the Senate Bill one, which is a bad bill. 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to refute that. We've said that the 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: bill is, but for a variety of reasons, primarily it 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: doesn't help people enough. It doesn't help the taxpayers enough, 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: it doesn't rein in the school systems enough, and it 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: creates all these new taxes that can be levied. That's 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: our primary beef with this bill, not oh the poor schools. 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't help you the taxpayer enough. But this article 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: is these just one anonymous sobs story after another from 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: these school administrators who are having some sort of aneurism 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: and drowning in a river of tears over the fact 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: that you the taxpayer might get. 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: Three hundred dollars max. 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: Most people won't even get the three hundred dollars, but 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: you might get three hundred dollars back next year on 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: your property taxson. 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Is something that it's coming from the school administrators, by 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the way, who most often make well over six figures. 59 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Oh yes, like you're talking many of these suburban school 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: district administrators, these superintendents, and by the way, most of 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: them got two or three quote unquote assistant superintendents. And 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: these superintendents in the suburban school districts, many of them 63 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: making well over two hundred thousand dollars plus benefits, cars, 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: cell phones, retirement plan, and they have the audacity to 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: come on here and act like the world's going to 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: end because you're getting two hundred dollars back. 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: They say that the rising costs for gas, electricity, insurance, transportation, 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: and maintenance are outpacing funding. So my question for you, yeah. 69 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: Let's stop with that for a second, because this is 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: always the government argument. Right, Oh, it's inflation, And I 71 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: don't dispute there's inflation, But who is inflation caused by? 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: By the way the government? The government created the problem. 73 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: So when the government cries about the problem the government created, 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: I don't have any sympathy for that, because you know, 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: if they never condemn the government that printed all the money, casey, 76 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: they ever condemned the people who caused the problem. 77 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: They just say, give us more of that printed money. 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Now, inflation is a thing, absolutely, But in your life, 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: does somebody just throw money at you or do you 80 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: have to just figure it out? And inflation ain't anywhere 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: near the funding increases these people have gotten over the 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: past five years as property assessments have skyrocketed, Which what 83 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: does the government do with that? They look at you 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: and say, shut up and pay when that bill comes 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: in the mail. They don't feel sympathy for you and go, man, 86 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: can Casey pay this? What about inflation? How has Casey 87 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: been hit by inflation? Oh, maybe we should consider cutting 88 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: this bill down by a couple hundred dollars because inflation's 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: really hurt Casey. No, they're like, you pay her, you 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: lose your house. And so my question is to these 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: poor singing orphans of public education, what. 92 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: Did you do with all the money? 93 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: Where did the money go? 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: So I know where went in Brownsburg? 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: It went to a second football field for state of 96 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: the art field houses. They have a legit indoor track 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: at Brownsburg. Now, they build a road in my neighbor's backyards, 98 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: They move tennis courts. You tell me how any of 99 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: that has anything to do do with learning in the classroom. 100 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: The answer is it doesn't have one damn thing to 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: do with learning in the classroom. It was they spent it. 102 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: They spent it on grandiose, on excess, on building monuments. 103 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: They've got one of. 104 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 2: Those scoreboards now that looks like the scoreboard at Victory Field. Casey, 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: you tell me how that helped one kid learn anything. 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: Well, they're saying that they're experiencing rising costs of electricity. 107 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Rob at your house. Has your 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: electric bill? Is it gone up or down? Up? Oh, 109 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: it's gone. So you've got to deal with that as well. 110 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do. Are you going to 111 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: go cry to other people and say I need more money, 112 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: please help me pay my electric bill? 113 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: Oh? 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: I tried that here, you know what I got told? 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: Huh? So you've got to figure it out exactly. Yeah, insurance, transportation, maintenance. 116 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: You're dealing with all of those things in your life 117 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: as well. And what do you do you make it work? 118 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: And casey, oh gosh, darn it. Nine to thirteen. I 119 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: don't even have headphones to hear myself say this. This 120 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: is a doubly bit. What is my least favorite part 121 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: of every show? 122 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: When you have to say that you're right? 123 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: And what did we say when they passed this property 124 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: tax bill? One of the last things in what is 125 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: now dubbed the Last Supper with me and Braun, one 126 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: of the things I told him is I said, one, 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: it's not helping people enough. But I said two, there's 128 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: nothing in here that's going to stop these government people 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: from coming back for these referendums. You're doing nothing to 130 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: police them other than you're moving the referendums that they 131 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: have to be to even ears, which will make them 132 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: a little harder to pass. But you're not stopping them. 133 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: You're still putting on the onus on the taxpayer to 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: defend him or herself. And these people aren't going to 135 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: get the memo, mister governor. It's not like you're going 136 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: to pass this property tax bill and they're going to go, Okay, 137 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: you're right. We were totally out of control. We get 138 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: the message. Why did the tax caps become a thing 139 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: because local governments wouldn't stop spending money. 140 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 3: And from the very moment those. 141 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: Tax caps were passed in two thousand and eight and 142 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: put into the constitution twenty ten, these public school systems 143 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: have been trying to gain the system with these referendums. 144 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: They've never gotten the memo. 145 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: They have no respect for the taxpayers whatsoever, and they're 146 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: going to continue to do it until the legislature does 147 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: something about it. 148 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: So this survey talked to one hundred and forty eight 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: out of two hundred and ninety school districts, and out 150 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: of those, ninety five point three percent expect negative financial 151 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: impacts and ninety nine point three percent expect long term 152 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: negative financials. 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: That's the idea, idiots. 154 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: The idea was you have too much money, the same 155 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: reason the caps went in a place to begin with, 156 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: what is my What is the thing that drives me 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: more crazy than anything? 158 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: When somebody goes the revenue we lost, We lost it, No, 159 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: you didn't. 160 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: We know exactly where it is. It's back in the 161 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: pockets of people who earned it. The pole premise of 162 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: this is the property taxes are totally out of control, 163 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: that there's too much money being taken from people from 164 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: their house which the government had nothing to do with 165 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: them buying, and being given to people who are building 166 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: extra We have two football fields where I live. 167 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: Two, Casey of the practice and what the game feels an. 168 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: Entire indoor track. Oh and they're building. You know what 169 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: they're doing now, Casey, they're moving the outdoor track. You 170 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: know why they're moving the outdoor track. The tax fars. 171 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Get this, The tax faars are paying to destroy the 172 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: existing track and move it. You know why, because these 173 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: Einstein's build it in the wrong direction, so the kids 174 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: are running into the sun in the evening. That's the 175 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: level of competency we're dealing with here. And I'm supposed 176 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: to just shut up and pay for that. 177 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: This invitamin D good for you. God, this is. 178 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: Just these people are disgusting. But you know who is 179 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: actually to blame on this. The lawmakers because they know 180 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: what's going on. They've known what's going on for years, 181 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: and because they're gutless cowards who are more focused on 182 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: trying to give jun Jennifer Ruth Green a seat in Congress, 183 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: They're not gonna do a damn thing about this. And 184 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: there's gonna be all these referendums that are gonna pass 185 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: next year because the game is rigged in favor of 186 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: the schools, because they can spend all of this money 187 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: on games. On the elections, they can spend all of 188 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: this money and get all these political action committees with 189 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: groups that will make money off the construction contracts to 190 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: come in and fund these packs. I know, I've seen 191 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: it happen that these will pass. People end up paying 192 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: more in taxes. And these lawmakers down the street from us, 193 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: who are moving heaven and earth to put Jennifer Ruth 194 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: Green in Congress, see their little rally today. We're going 195 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: to sit there with their thumbs up their backside and go, oh. 196 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: Somebody should do something about this. 197 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Somebody, whoever that is. You're listening to Kendall and Casey. 198 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: It is ninety three WYBC. 199 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Ay question. 200 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: What are you heading down to the elect Jennifer Ruth 201 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: Green rally that they're having here. 202 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: In a little bit at the State House. 203 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: No, I'm not. Are you do you want to go? 204 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: No? 205 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: I think you know. I got somewhere to go when 206 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: I get done here. 207 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: It's being sponsored by a Turning Point USA. 208 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: Is That's right, So there's some It'll be interesting to 209 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: see if they get more than thirty, which is what 210 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: they had last time they had a rally for redistricting. 211 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they'll get more. 212 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: Well, look, Turning Point USA will put people on buses 213 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: if they have to and get them here. I'll be 214 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,479 Speaker 2: curious to know how many people are actually from Indiana 215 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: or how many people were brought here by Turning Point USA, 216 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: and if people are being compensated to come. I'll be 217 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: curious about all of that because clearly, after six months 218 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: of this, every public opinion poll that has been released, 219 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: including by Republican pollsters, multiple done by Republican polsters, have 220 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: shown that the public is against this. We've had multiple 221 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: town halls where people could show up and speak. Nobody came. 222 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: We had the rally. They had the rally at the 223 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: State House. They had thirty ish people. It was the 224 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: same face as we always see at everything. And then 225 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: there was testimony opportunity the other day. 226 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: No, they didn't get anybody any. 227 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: Notice, of course, because they don't actually give a damn 228 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: about what you think about redistricting and what There were 229 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: just a handful of people who showed up to speak 230 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: and supported this thing. So after six months and numerous opportunities, 231 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: the supposed angry majority that desperately wants to put someone 232 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: completely unethical like Jennifer Ruth Green, who was blown out 233 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: of her job in the Braun administration because she has 234 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: the ethics of Tony Soprano, put herself under inspector general investigation. 235 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: That's who they want. She's the golden child. That's what 236 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: this is about. 237 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: Electing Jennifer Ruth Green in the first congressional district and 238 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: giving her a seat in Congress. And we are led 239 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: to believe that putting that woman in there is somehow 240 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: going to save the republic. That's the case they're making today. 241 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Braun and Micah and the rest of those people. Somebody 242 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: should really ask Mike Braun why he is speaking at 243 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: a rally which is essentially in support of electing a 244 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: woman that he knew was so corrupt and unethical they 245 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: blew her out of her two hundred and seventy five 246 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: thousand dollars position in his cabinet. Somebody should ask him 247 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: and ask his little tweeby assistant Micah that today as well. 248 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: So, actually it's turning point action that is putting this on. 249 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: It's inside the State House. 250 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: That's a turning point, USA. 251 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it begins at noon and you've got the same 252 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: flyer that is being circulated. You've got Governor Mike Brawn 253 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: who's going to be there, the Lieutenant Governor Micah Beck 254 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: with also Representative Andrew Ireland will be there. And then 255 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: according to this other flyer that looks exactly the same, 256 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk because their pictures are on 257 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: it as well. 258 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: That's gross that they put Charlie Kirk's picture on there. 259 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: It's also I mean ridiculous they put Donald Trump's picture 260 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: on there. But what they're admitting to you, and this 261 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: is why you need to care about this, because it's 262 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: not even about what your stance is on redistricting. It's 263 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: about the behavior of these people, because what they're doing 264 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: here they're doing other places, and that's costing you real money. 265 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: And that is that this is not about you. 266 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: Nothing these people do down the street from us is 267 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: about you. They can't tell you think about this. We've 268 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: been at this for six months. You had Andrew Ireland 269 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: in here, and he can't tell you one thing that's 270 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: going to change if you get rid of Andre Carson. Hammer, 271 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: Nigel and I had this conversation yesterday. Is it We'll 272 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: get rid of Andrey Carson. But Carson's not the problem. 273 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: Carson doesn't have any power right now. Yeahs Andre Carson 274 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: or rotten representative of course is the radical leftist, of 275 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: course he is, but he doesn't have any power whatsoever. 276 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: The Republicans are in charge of everything, both in the 277 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: state and in Washington, and so if you're mad about 278 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: the direction of the country, you can't blame Andre Carson 279 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: because he doesn't have a say in it. 280 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: So they say, join us for a community gathering, as 281 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: we'll call on the State Senate to support President Trump's 282 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: America First agenda and fair maps for Indiana to a 283 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: community gathering. 284 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: Somebody in the media, or if you go down to 285 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: this today, ask Mike Brown, by the way, after what 286 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: we went through at the property tax rally where Braun 287 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: looked a thousand people right in the eye and lied 288 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: to us, isn't he the last guy you would have 289 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: come speak at this thing? Isn't he the last guy 290 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: you would be like, let's put him out there. It 291 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: went so well the last time he went and spoke 292 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: to somebody. Somebody asked Braun, if you go today though, 293 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: why if Jennifer Ruth Green is so great, because that's 294 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: who they're going to run in this first congressional district, 295 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: That's who they're doing this for. If she's so great, 296 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: why he blew her out of his administration and why 297 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: she ended up under Inspector General investigation and why they 298 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: made her sign that performance plan thing before she got 299 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: the boot. Why he is wanting to rig these maps 300 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: so bad to put this woman in who he thought 301 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: was so awful he ran her out of his administration. 302 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Well, the House is reconvening this morning at ten am, 303 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: and they're going to have that final vote in the 304 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: House on the redistricting bill. Yesterday, Governor Mike Brawn was 305 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: on with Hammer and Nigel, and he said that even 306 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: if the Senate votes down the maps, that that's not 307 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: the end of it. Did you hear that? 308 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: Oh, it's very I will not be ignored. 309 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, check this out here. 310 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: I'm surprised that they haven't taken the cue, because let's 311 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 5: say they don't, this is not the end of it. 312 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 5: Do you think the White House is going to just 313 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 5: drop the issue when they've come in twice with the 314 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 5: Vice President twice with phone. 315 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: Calls, you guys have gone there. 316 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: Yes, So that doesn't mean it's over like you can 317 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 5: get that off of your agenda. It just then becomes 318 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: a different type of a pursuit, and it's a longer 319 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 5: term possibly. And I don't think it'd be a dead 320 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: issue even in the session when it starts in January. 321 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: So I think all of that would make you wonder 322 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: why they die on that hill. 323 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: He said, it will be a different type of pursuit 324 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: if the Senate votes this down. 325 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: Well, we have a saying for what you just heard, Casey. 326 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: It's called not knowing your head from your ass. Look, 327 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: bronispathetic this, I mean, he looks pathetic, the groveling, the sniveling, 328 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: the eye will not be ignored Dan routine, Like, dude, 329 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: why aren't you putting this effort into something that will 330 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: help the people of your state. There's so many things, 331 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: and we've laid them out countless times that you could 332 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: be fighting this hard on and again. If somebody would 333 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: like to correct me, I'm all ears at robinim Kendall 334 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: on Twitter. You can hit me in the YouTube chat 335 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: obviously people say hey in US horrific things about me there. 336 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: I'll probably see it at some point. 337 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: What we'll getting rid of Andre Carson do to better 338 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: your life? The Republicans have control if you just say 339 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: I hate andre Carson and I want him to go okay, 340 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: but that's not better in your life because andre Carson 341 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: doesn't have a say in anything right now now, nor 342 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: does Frank Mrvan. If nothing is getting done, it's on 343 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: the Republicans. And all we're doing with this, all this 344 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: exercise is about, is saying we can't win these elections 345 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: by governing, so we're going to change these maps to 346 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: reward ourselves for the bad governing because we aren't doing 347 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: the things that we promised you to do. Merely getting 348 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: spending and inflation and cost of living under control. You're 349 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: just bailing out the bad behavior if you go along 350 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: with this. 351 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Speaking of cost of living, we're going to be joined 352 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: next by Michael Toath. He's a research director from Civitas Institute, 353 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about affordability when it comes 354 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: to health insurance. There's a lot of talk happening in 355 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: DC about that right now, and we'll get his thoughts 356 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: coming up on ninety three WIBC. 357 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 6: People's a pretty book out of his sleeping bag. 358 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: Creature, lots of casey. 359 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: We discussed this yesterday. 360 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we had a little little seminar on 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: our insurance here at work. 362 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: Because it's open enrollment season with health. 363 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: Insurance and across the entire country. 364 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's a mess. Yeah, and there's a good chance 365 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: it's going to cost you a lot more money. 366 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: Than the Yeah. And just earlier this week, the Senate 367 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: held a hearing and it was called making Healthcare Affordable Again, 368 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: Healing a broken System. And during that hearing, our Senator, 369 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Indiana's Jim Banks, said that the five hospital systems controlled 370 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: most of Indiana's hospitals, and he asked how that lack 371 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: of competition is raising prices and causing higher health insurance premiums, 372 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: which we're experiencing. And the director of research from Civatas Institute, 373 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: Michael Toath, he wrote an op ed and it was 374 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: featured in the Washington Times and he pretty much made 375 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: the exact same point. So let's get with Michael and 376 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: ask him some questions. Michael, you said that if we 377 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: don't fix competition within healthcare, especially within hospital markets, families 378 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: and employers, they're going to be paying more and Congress 379 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: will keep fighting over the budget and that all could 380 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: lead to more shutdowns like we experienced earlier a few 381 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: months ago. Is that correct? 382 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, case you, good morning. Great to be with you guys, 383 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: Great to be with your listener. 384 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 7: I'll try to bring like a little bit of good 385 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 7: news to the conversation because I know when the conversation 386 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 7: gets to healthcare is just like, oh my gosh, you know, 387 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 7: one bad news cycle after the next. 388 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: But if there's one. 389 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: Silver lining is the fact that we're having this conversation 390 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 7: and you've got leaders like. 391 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: Jim Banks who are really driving. 392 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 7: This issue because the fact of the matter is health 393 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 7: healthcare costs in the United States are outrageously high, and 394 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 7: they're going up into the right and we need an 395 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 7: all hands on deck moment to really fix the various 396 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 7: parts of the system that are driving these costs through 397 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 7: the roof, for employees, for employers, I mean everybody across 398 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 7: the board. 399 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: And so yeah, my piece gets that one aspect of that. 400 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 7: Senator Banks was raising that issue we need more competition, 401 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 7: we need more consumer choice across the board. 402 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, here's the problem. Here's the they shou. I 403 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 3: think people have though we've. 404 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: Heard this from the Republicans for fifteen years, right, they 405 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: ran on the twenty ten minu terms that we're goll 406 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: fix Obama or the sphinx, and they never do anything 407 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: about it. Who is preventing them from doing something about it? 408 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: It's a great question, you know, I think now's the time. 409 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I think after multiple shutdowns, you know, this 410 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 7: issue has become so problematic, and you're absolutely right. But 411 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 7: what I will say is, you know the issues on 412 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 7: how to reform the system, because that's what we need. 413 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 7: And obviously Obamacare didn't do what it was promised. I 414 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 7: mean I went back and looked at it, and you know, 415 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 7: then Senator Obama running for President in two thousand and eight, 416 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 7: talking about Obamacare, said it was going to lower premiums 417 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 7: by two thousand, five hundred dollars per family per year. 418 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 7: The cost of insurance on the Obamacare exchanges has gone 419 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 7: up ten thousand dollars per family or four. So we've 420 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 7: gone in exactly the opposite direction. But what I think 421 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 7: the Republicans in Congress are starting to realize is that 422 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 7: we need systematic reform. 423 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 5: Right. 424 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 7: It's not just a matter of putting a band aid 425 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 7: on a broken system. 426 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: We've got to look holistically at how. 427 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 7: Can we inject It's transparency, competition, and consumer choice all 428 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 7: throughout the system, right, And so we've got to look 429 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 7: at the rules that are driving prices up into the right. 430 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 7: And so I think there's conversations that are happy now 431 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 7: that weren't really happening in twenty seventeen, weren't really happening 432 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 7: in twenty ten, you know. 433 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: And you've got. 434 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 7: Leaders like Brian Blaize from Paragun Health Institute Orick Roy, 435 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 7: Senator Banks on the consolidation issues that we need to address. 436 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 7: So I feel like we're getting the critical massive folks. 437 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 7: But you know, nothing in Washington is a given so 438 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 7: you know, let's keep the pressure on. 439 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Michael top Is joining us from the Civitas Institute. He's 440 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: the research director there. So Rob and I were curious 441 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned giving consumers more choice. What would that look 442 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: like in a real world example. 443 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think it's got to look you know, 444 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 7: there's got to be consumer choice at various parts of 445 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 7: the system. 446 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 4: So I'll just mention a few things. 447 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 7: First of all, you know, more hsas, right, So if 448 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 7: we look at HSA's you're putting you're putting healthcare choice 449 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 7: in the pocketbook. 450 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: Of the consumer, right. So that's one aspect of it. 451 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 7: Another aspect of it, and this gets to the shutdown 452 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 7: is you know, we were giving one hundred cents on 453 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 7: the dollar to insurance companies, you know for these Obamacare premiums. 454 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: You know, that's not price competition. 455 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 7: If somebody's getting one hundred cents on the dollars, they 456 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 7: have no incentive to bring those costs down. 457 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: So I know folks on Capitol Hill, on both sides 458 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: of the aisle, are looking at addressing that issue. 459 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 7: Another issue on choice is making sure that there's choice 460 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 7: in the marketplace, and that's part of what my op 461 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 7: ed got into in the Washington Times. That's what Senator 462 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 7: Banks got into. When we look at a major driver 463 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 7: of healthcare costs, it's the hospitals, over a trillion dollars 464 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 7: of spending, and we're seeing more and more consolidation. We 465 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 7: need more competition in the marketplace. Competition on the private 466 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 7: side is what bring costs down. So I think we 467 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 7: need to basically stack choice on top of choice on 468 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 7: choice and competition, and that force is going to do 469 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 7: what it's done across other markets, which is bring cost down. 470 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 7: One last thing case here. You know, health care is 471 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 7: not completely broken. There are parts of the healthcare industry 472 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 7: where costs are going down. It's things like LASiS where 473 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 7: people are spending their own money on services. 474 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: There's lots of competitions bringing the cost down. So we 475 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: can do this. We just have to reform the system. 476 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: How long do you think consumers would see any savings 477 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: if any of these proposed reforms actually were put into place. 478 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: You know, these things do take some time to turn around. 479 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 7: But I know with what's going on in Washington now, 480 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 7: there's conversations that are happening right now, and let's let's 481 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 7: be honest too. I mean, we've seen prices move quickly 482 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 7: in the opposite direction. So these rules, these regulations, they 483 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 7: do make a difference. I mean year one of Obamacare, 484 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 7: the premiums went up forty seven percent. 485 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean that just goes to show what changes can. 486 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 7: Do to people's pocketbooks, right, And so I think, you know, 487 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 7: consumers are smart. People know that the system is broken, 488 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 7: and once our leaders in Washington sort to get the 489 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 7: right points in place and fix it, I think consumers 490 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 7: will respond like they always do and make the decisions 491 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 7: that make the most sense for them and their families. 492 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate your time. You can find that article 493 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: in the Washington Times, and it's making healthcare more affordable. Again, 494 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: thank you, Michael for your consideration. 495 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: Kacy, my pleasure. Let's do it again. 496 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: It is Ketley Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 497 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: So there's numbers out on how many people have been 498 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: let go in this country and it's not great, No. 499 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: It's not. So. There was a consulting firm by the 500 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: name of Challenger Gray and Christmas. They reported on Thursday. Yeah, 501 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: can you I menage if your last name was Christmas 502 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: it would be a holiday every day. But they announced 503 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: that there were one point one million job layoffs announced 504 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: this year, and it has been the most since twenty 505 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: twenty during the pandemic. 506 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: Well, this is one of the things that the Republicans 507 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: don't want to admit. And look, it's not all the Republicans' fault. 508 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: They just happen to be in charge right now. But 509 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: this country, I mean, this country has just been so 510 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: abhorrent and how we I mean, look, it was bad 511 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: before COVID, but the way we've handled economic policy in 512 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: this country, with the money printing, with the now the tariffs, 513 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 2: with the supply chain disruptions. You can't do all of 514 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: these things and not think it's going to have some 515 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: sort of profound impact on the economy. You could mask 516 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: it for so long the way they did during COVID, 517 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: or they just threw a bunch of money at people 518 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, see, no problem whatsoever. I mean, 519 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: you think about it when you say it out loud. 520 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: Do you think you could realistically shut a society down 521 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: for six months a year and then once society quote 522 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: unquote opens back up it's some slow rollout and shut 523 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: down ports and the ability to move goods services and 524 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: not think that eventually there's going to be some long 525 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: term effect to it, right, Like, I don't know why 526 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: this is surprising to people at all. And in this case, 527 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: the Republicans and Democrats share the blame equally because it 528 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: started under Trump. All the shutdown stuff, all the bribery 529 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: of the States was done under Trump. 530 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: They would have never. 531 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 2: Shut down if they hadn't printed all that money and 532 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: thrown it at people. Then obviously continued under Biden, So 533 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: you've got all these things that were shut down. Biden 534 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: and his people were brutally incompetent, and so nothing really 535 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: got back to the way it was before. And then 536 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: you have Trump coming in pouring gas on it with 537 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: the tariffs. Like why any person would think that this 538 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: is surprising or that it's going to get any better 539 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: anytime soon is beyond me. 540 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: So total layoffs for twenty twenty five have reached one 541 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: point one seven million, and it's fifty four percent higher 542 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: than the same period last year. It's also the highest 543 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: layoff level since twenty twenty as we mentioned, and some 544 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: of the key drivers for the layoffs include restructuring. It's 545 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: the most common reason for job cuts in November, followed 546 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: by company closings and also economic market conditions. They also 547 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: say it's artificial intelligence AI related changes have caused over 548 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: fifty four thousand layoffs this year. Tech companies alone announced 549 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: over twelve thousand cuts in November, and that raises the 550 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: tech layoffs by seventeen percent year over year. And then 551 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: as you mentioned tariffs. 552 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: You know, we've gone from I remember this years ago. 553 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: I would have been in college. Maybe this is a 554 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: college class. I don't remb where I heard this from. 555 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: So this would have been in the mid two thousands, 556 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: and somebody was saying technology is going to reach a 557 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: point where the good it does, like the helping right 558 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: or whatever to humanity, gets far surpassed by the damage 559 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: it does. And what they meant by that is, like, 560 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot of good things that come out of 561 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, technology, medical advancements, helping people live longer, certainly 562 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: in terms of you know, the invention of the internet. Hey, 563 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: you can communicate with people that you know, I haven't 564 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: seen years all these sorts of things. But they said, 565 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: eventually the technology will advance to the point where the 566 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: damage it starts doing. And you're seeing this right with 567 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: the AI stuff, with the ability of like you know 568 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: you look at just look at your fast food joint, 569 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: the kiosk, you know, taking away the jobs of like 570 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: it's going to just swallow up the entire economy and 571 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: then there's going to be these new things come along, see, 572 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: you know, the artificial intelligence, the videos, the deep fakes, 573 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: the all of this stuff where society is just going 574 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: to be overrun by it and they'll be over recovering 575 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: from it, and it starts to its start. 576 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: It is starting to really feel. 577 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: Like we are entering that phase of the game where 578 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: the robots start winning and taking over and select people 579 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: who for like tip top yeah, for lack of better 580 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: term control, the robots are going to keep doing well 581 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: and everybody else souper line for you. 582 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: So layoff announcements above seventy thousand in November have happened 583 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: only twice since the year two thousand and eight, and 584 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: since the two thousand and eight financial crisis, a lot 585 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: of companies generally try to avoid announcing layoffs right before 586 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: the holidays. November's numbers were lower than October's numbers. October's 587 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: numbers were pretty bad one hundred and fifty thousand plus cuts, 588 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: and that was the highest level in twenty two years 589 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: for that month. 590 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, and and then comes back to you know, you 591 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: start with like, what are they doing today? 592 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: What's the focus today down the street from us. 593 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: Is it any districting? 594 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 595 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: Is it on any of the stuff? Is it anything 596 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: about affordability of living? Is it addressing the skyrocketing utility bills? 597 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: Any of this stuff that would help actual people. No. 598 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: I asked this question yesterday and not a single person 599 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: could answer it on social media. Has there been one 600 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: bill filed by a Republican that is focused on lowering 601 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: the burden to the government that everybody. 602 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: Is asked to shoulder? 603 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: So tax because but I'm going to talk about these 604 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: specialty tax cuts they do like for their business buddies. 605 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking about like legitimate gas tax, property tax, the 606 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: utility bills, all that stuff. 607 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: No, of course not. 608 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: Is there anything addressing affordability of living? No, of course not. 609 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: It's they're focused on crypto. They're focused on getting rid 610 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: of making lutenan governor an appointed position. They're focused on 611 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: the stupid sandwich, They're focused on this redistricting stuff. 612 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: There's nothing they're doing. And the same thing is. 613 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: True in Washington and then in Washington they have the 614 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: audacity to come out and go. 615 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 6: Oh, it's the greatest echotomy ever. We're cooking. Everything's fabulous. 616 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 6: We're so hot right now. No, we're not hot right now. 617 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 6: We're not hot right now. 618 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: There is I believe it was the philosopher Katie Perry 619 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: who once said, you're hot than you're cold, you're yes 620 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: than you're no. 621 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: And that's where we're at right now. Like that for Rizel, 622 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: it is not hot. 623 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: There was a new poll that came out and this 624 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: was published in Politico, and it says that Trump's own 625 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: voter are now beginning to blame him for the affordability christ. 626 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: Do you have a data point on that? I do, Okay, 627 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: I do. 628 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: So. 629 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: The polling shows that many Americans are starting to blame 630 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump for the high cost of living. Forty six 631 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: percent say the cost of living is the worst they 632 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: can remember, and thirty seven percent of them were Trump voters. 633 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not getting any better. So after you've been 634 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: there a year, you own it. Right, there's a window 635 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: where he's okay, hey, it's the other guy. We went 636 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: through this Obama where it was ridiculous, where everything three 637 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: years in was still Bush's fault. Oh no, no, no, no, no, 638 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: no no. You signed up for this job. You knew 639 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: what the job was. You don't get to blame the 640 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: other guy after a certain window of time. And I 641 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: think what has people really irked is not only is 642 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: it not getting better, but there's no plan to make 643 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: it better. There's no plan from Trump, there's no plan 644 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: from the Republicans in the House. There's nothing from the 645 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: Republicans in the Senate. What are they debating right now 646 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: or getting ready to debate, whether we're going to extend 647 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 2: these Obamacare subsidies for three more years, not one year, 648 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: not two years, but three years. You me, on the 649 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: other hand, we're about to just get totally hosed on 650 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: our insurance. But hey, because we go to work every day, 651 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: f us right, you'll. 652 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: Just shut up and pay it. 653 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: Nobody's focused on the affordability of the middle class, who's working, 654 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: the middle class, who's producing? Those middle class people who 655 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: are working and producing are being driven down into the 656 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: lower class. Nobody's almost nobody's elevating anymore. It's almost impossible 657 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: unless you're gonna work three or four jobs to elevate 658 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 2: your financial position right now. Unless you're in a very 659 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: SELCT group of fields and people are like, wait a second, dude, 660 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: you are supposed to fix this, and you seem to 661 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: be focused on everything but this. 662 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: According to this poll, fifty six percent of Americans say 663 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: affordability is their number one priority. You're listening to Kendell 664 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: and Case on ninety three WYBC