1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hello, My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: with a special guests on the hotline. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Representative Andrew Ireland joining us. Representative. Thank you for being 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: patient here, and you were over in the mix today 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: at the Indiana General Assembly. The topic was redistrict ing. 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: It's so hard for me to say that. Did I 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: do it right? Thank you, Press, thank you. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Wow. 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: You were kind of texting me back and forth. Tons 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: of amendments. Everybody's got an amendment. Walk me through the latest. 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so good to be back guys. You know, it's 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: interesting to me. I think we saw more amendments on 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: this today than almost any other bill during the last session. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of a three day process. Usually 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: you go through a committee, then you go to the 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: floor and you've got amendments, and then on the last 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: day you have an up or down vote of whether 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: or not you're going to pass the final version of 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: that bill. So we've gone through the you know, the 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: second piece of that there. Today we have to the 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: amendments of Democrats offered everything out of the sun. All 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: of those were defeated. So tomorrow's the big day. The 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: House will have a chance to vote up or down 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: of whether or not they are going to move forward 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 3: with redistricting. And then it goes off to the Senate. 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: What are we hearing? 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: Like? 29 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 2: You know me, I'm a gambling man representative. It feels 30 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: like the House has always had the votes. Do you 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: kind of got that feeling? 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I certainly we have the votes. I 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: feel like for tomorrow. I'm pretty confident. Speaker put out 34 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: of a statement about a month ago too as much, 35 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: I'd be really surprised if it goes any other way. Obviously, 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: the Senate is a bigger question. I think some Senators 37 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: it's still not clear where they stand on this one. 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: So we really may not know where it ends up 39 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: until next week. 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: So what's the timeline? Then you vote tomorrow, and then 41 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: it goes over to the Senate. Then what happens? 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: So the Senatel gavel in on Monday, I think their 43 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: calendar to be in all of next week. So the 44 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: hope would be that they would send it to a 45 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: committee hearing, just like we did take public testimony. Then 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: they come back a day or two later and they'd 47 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: go and do amendments on the floor hopefully, you know 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: that kind of continues to move forward, and then if 49 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: they agree with the bill we gave them, they'll be 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: a you know, single vote by them if they pass 51 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: it and goes to the governor. If they have any amendments, 52 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: and we have a conference committee and both sides they 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: have to kind of hash it back out and we'll 54 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: have maybe one more vote on each side to get 55 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: it done. But I'm cautiously optimistic that I think we're 56 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: going to get to twenty six votes in the Senate 57 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: and get this done. 58 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: Representative Andrew Ireland with us. I love this idea. I'm 59 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: hoping it can become fruition your plan to impeach rogue 60 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: judges and prosecutors. Andrew has somebody that lives in Marion County. 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: You're talking romance to me here when you're talking rogue 62 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: judges and prosecutors. Walk me through this. 63 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean this is really simple. In fact, 64 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: there are only about two jobs in the state of 65 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: Indiana if you're in government that cannot be impeached right now, 66 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: and that is circuit judges and prosecuting attorneys. Cork of 67 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: our Indiana constitution the way the courts have interpreted it. 68 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: So all I want to do is say, is long 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: list of other people that could be impeached. Guess what, guys, 70 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: you're subject to the same standard that I'm subject to. 71 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: The governor that you'll just talk to a subject to that. 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: We have to have some accountability for these people, particularly 73 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: when they're not willing to do their jobs. And I 74 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: think in part they do it because they know they 75 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: can get away with them, because they know there's no 76 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: consequences when they don't want to be judges or they 77 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: don't want to be prosecutors, but instead they want to 78 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: be advocates for the criminals. So it's really important to 79 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: have those checks in place. So that's exactly what this does. 80 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Is there criteria for this? Because I know the folks 81 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: on the left are going to say, you can't just 82 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: impeach somebody because you don't like them, which the irony 83 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: is thick. I totally get that, But what are the 84 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: criteria for this. 85 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: Kind of three categories right and impeachment? The high bar 86 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: are going to be clear. You know, you can't just 87 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 3: go and you know, impeach somebody willy nilly. You gotta 88 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: have two thirds vote on both the House and the 89 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: Senate side. As you've seen over the last couple of weeks, 90 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: Republicans have a really hard time sometimes they even getting 91 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: to twenty six votes in the Senate. So this has 92 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: to be you know, somebody that's really dead to right. 93 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: But if somebody commits a crime, if somebody is doing 94 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: effectively abusive office, mal seasons or negligence, which is, you know, 95 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: a nice legal word for not doing your job, if 96 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: you're not going and holding the violent criminals accountable. And 97 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: so if you have one of those things as a 98 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: prosecutor or a circuit judge, and you're dead to right, 99 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: so you can get the votes, yeah, I think it's 100 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: time to go, and you know, impeach somebody, send the 101 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: packing and hopefully that sends a message to these other 102 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: soft on crime judges and prosecutors that either start doing 103 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: your job or we're coming for you. 104 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: Next thirty seconds left here. How optimistic are you that 105 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: this can get to the finish line? 106 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: You know, I'm feeling pretty good about this one. I 107 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: mean one Elon Musk tweeted out his approval of this 108 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: plan today, so I really appreciate that one of the 109 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: world's smartest people. But to up talk to a lot 110 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: of the senators and I think that's been one of 111 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: the hold ups. So this general issue is on the 112 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: Senate's side. I've had a lot of support of this language. 113 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: I think this is the best approach we've tried so far. 114 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: Hopefully we're going to get it done this time. 115 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: Representative Andrew Ireland, hey man, keep us up to date 116 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: on all things happening over there and let us know, 117 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: and then we'll let the masses know. We appreciate you 118 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, guys.