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Speaker 1: For oh my, oh my lord, the Jets are trading

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Speaker 1: sauce Gardener to the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner, sauce Gardener, sauce Gardener, He's an Indianapolis coult

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Speaker 2: We were shocked.

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Speaker 3: Got the opinions on sauce Gardener.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Wowow.

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Speaker 5: The Colts looking for help on the back end of

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Speaker 5: that secondary, to help lou Anaumo, so they go all

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Speaker 5: in and make the trade for sauce Gardener twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: six first round pick, twenty twenty seven first round pick.

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Speaker 6: The Colts just determined our time is right now, Our

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Speaker 6: window is right now. We just opened it up and

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Speaker 6: sauce Gardener is on his way.

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Speaker 7: This is not the same old, same old. This is different.

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Speaker 8: A team that has aspirations of winning the Super Bowl

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Speaker 8: epan next year or two, which I think they should.

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Speaker 9: The windows wide open.

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Speaker 4: It's just a massive, massive swing here by the Colts.

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Speaker 10: Collard Nephosis, stuff like this.

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Speaker 11: This has the opportunity to be the best secondary in

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Speaker 11: football in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 12: Right now, we turned around.

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Speaker 13: Guys.

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Speaker 12: We are back, baby, we are we are back.

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Speaker 9: Classic, we are bed we are bad.

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Speaker 14: I want you to put the word up to here

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Speaker 14: we back on. I understand me.

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Speaker 13: There you go.

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Speaker 9: You were worried about whether or not you'd have good

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Speaker 9: things to write about yesterday Kevin Bowen and James Boyd,

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Speaker 9: and apparently you got a lot to write about yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Good job on the intro again, Mark Dyton, Good morning, everyone,

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Speaker 9: Welcome into the Fan Morning Show. I'm jeff Rickord and

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Speaker 9: We've got a lot to discuss today. Kevin, We'll start

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Speaker 9: with you. Sauce Gardner was never a name that I

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Speaker 9: even considered when looking through trade possibilities. When did it

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Speaker 9: first pop up on your radar when the news item broke?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, he was definitely not I think one of

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Speaker 15: the big names rumored. It's certainly one of the biggest

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Speaker 15: trades in franchise history bar none. It is a sign

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Speaker 15: of what you think of Daniel Jones. It's a sign

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Speaker 15: of what you think of your twenty twenty five football team.

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Speaker 15: And you know now the expectations are February period. You

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Speaker 15: don't make this trade to stop at any other point

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Speaker 15: of the season. You make this trade to play in

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Speaker 15: the final game of the season. And it is a huge,

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Speaker 15: huge swing, and it's certainly something that is the most

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Speaker 15: unreally Chris like thing we've seen particularly in season throughout

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Speaker 15: his tenure.

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Speaker 9: Jams are going to have you a drilled down on that,

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Speaker 9: because that was the first thing I thought too, my

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Speaker 9: first thought, and I want to get your take on this.

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Speaker 9: The culture all in on Daniel Jones. They clearly think

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Speaker 9: they have a championship window. They think they've got a

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Speaker 9: quarterback worth investing two first round draft picks in from

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Speaker 9: Chris Ballard to go shore up a defense to go

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Speaker 9: along with that offense. What was your first thought and

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Speaker 9: where do we go from here?

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Speaker 17: My first thought was, Wow, I have to work a lot,

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Speaker 17: which was fine, and I think from there on a

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Speaker 17: more serious no, it had to be the reinforcement of

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Speaker 17: the Holy Trinity, so to speak. I think this move

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Speaker 17: solidifies the future a bit. This tells me that Carl ERSA. Gordon,

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Speaker 17: who I believe probably had some say in signing off

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Speaker 17: on this deal, trust Chris Ballard, trust Shane Styking, and

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Speaker 17: trust Daniel Jones. And so it's all but a formality

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Speaker 17: that Daniel Jones be brought back in some capacity after

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Speaker 17: the season, whether that's the franchise tag or an extension.

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Speaker 17: We will see before the present, like Kevin said, you

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Speaker 17: don't make this move to do anything other than playing

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Speaker 17: the last game of the year. And this is a

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Speaker 17: team that, by the way, hasn't been to the playoffs

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Speaker 17: since twenty twenty, hasn't won a playoff games in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 17: So you're trying to check a lot of boxes this year.

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Speaker 17: And I don't hate the move. I think that it's

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Speaker 17: an aggressive move. Certainly a lot of risk involved in it,

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Speaker 17: because I feel like cornerback is a very volatile position.

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Speaker 17: You can be very good, you know, one year, and

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Speaker 17: and unless it's a very severe concussion, I believe he

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Speaker 17: should be available at some point when they get over

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Speaker 17: to Germany to play the Falcons and perhaps make his debut.

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Speaker 17: But even looking at some of the advanced numbers, he's

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Speaker 17: still been a pretty good cornerback the last couple of years.

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Speaker 17: On his first two years in the league, he was

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Speaker 17: do that since the NFL AFL merger in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 17: dropped off a little bit since then, but still a

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Speaker 17: very good player. And if you're thinking as a unit,

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Speaker 17: you'll get healthy with Tavera's Ward returning to the lineup. Then, man,

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Speaker 17: that gives you quite the trio cornerbacks with Ward, Gardner

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Speaker 17: and of course Kenny Moore.

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Speaker 9: Who was a pro bowler in twenty twenty one. Well,

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Speaker 9: this a big, huge move for the Indianapolis Colts and

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Speaker 9: they are not going to be without a first round

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Speaker 9: pick for the next two drafts. I don't want to

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Speaker 9: You guys will have a day off, but unless something

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Speaker 9: major happens rightly now and then, and Mark Dyketon, I

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Speaker 9: know you want me to get to it all addressed earlier.

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Speaker 9: No more a d Mitchell. He also goes to part

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Speaker 15: No, no, no, we still have to keep the draft,

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Speaker 9: At least still have more catches now because they have

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Speaker 9: no one other than that, huh, other than Wilson, they

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Speaker 9: got nothing left. Do you know plays quarterback for the Jets.

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying, you got to throw the ball to somebody.

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Speaker 9: Do you know, of course plays quarterack for this He's

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Speaker 9: do you know who plays quarterback with that Jet? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: They have quarterbacks who can't throw. My point is he's

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Speaker 9: not on the Colts anymore. Yeah, I ain't gonna lied Tojae.

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Speaker 9: He's on the Jets.

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Speaker 17: We've all had some takes that one as like milking

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Speaker 9: That's okay. I still believe that Ady Mitchell is gonna

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Speaker 9: all said and done. The talent is just there's talents

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Speaker 9: of talent there, Kevin Bowen. As we now go forward,

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Speaker 9: Sauce Gardner is even going to play on Sunday. I

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Speaker 9: know he's coming off concussion. He's also got to get here.

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Speaker 17: So let's get Milandy Low on the phone again. Make

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Speaker 17: sure she gets sauces no for that, So yeah, I

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Speaker 17: Xavion Howard for retiring? If Xavion Howard doesn't retire, does

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Speaker 9: Probably not, yes, all you think it happens anyway? Yes,

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Speaker 15: It all comes back to, well, I don't think they

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Speaker 15: they should have been thinking about him. Well, should have

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Speaker 15: You know what, what could he do? Could he shadow

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Speaker 15: give him those responsibilities? I think those are all questions

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Speaker 15: that we'll obviously see a play out here. But you know,

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Speaker 15: after the bye week, it's quite possible when you make

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Speaker 15: you know, Sauce Gardner, Mooney Ward and Kenny Moore the

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Speaker 15: second and that is right up there with any and

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Speaker 15: doing it at a premium position, doing it with a

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Speaker 15: that is not a rental contractually by any means, that

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Speaker 15: sound like and listening to Darren Amogi the Jets GM

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Speaker 15: yesterday that you know, basically the Colts offer kept on

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Speaker 15: getting richer and at some point, you know, to your

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Speaker 15: point Jeff earlier, sauce Gardner was never really a name

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Speaker 15: But as the Colts continued to up the ante, and

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and also crazy for the Jets. I think they

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Speaker 17: Yeah, they got Quinn Williams out of there and sent

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Speaker 9: And where does that now rank the Indianapolis Colts in

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Speaker 9: the Bills. I have to think at this point in time,

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Speaker 15: I mean, it's a very jumbled group in terms of odds.

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Speaker 15: It's not like it's an overwhelming favorite or so. But again,

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Speaker 15: you make this trade firmly saying we are going to

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Speaker 15: think of anything that has more investments into it. So,

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Speaker 15: I mean that your defense has got to climb to

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Speaker 15: out a little bit earlier how sauce Gardner's career's gone.

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Speaker 15: He's got to get back to be in the definit

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Speaker 15: all pro that he's been. And then lastly, you know,

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Speaker 15: you need to make the Super Bowl. I think those

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Speaker 15: to impact the passing game, and that has been an

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Speaker 15: that's a little nitpicking. I think Russian cover can go together.

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Speaker 9: A very busy day for the Indianapolis sports scene on Tuesday.

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Speaker 9: If you're living under a rock, or maybe you had

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Speaker 9: whatever it happens to be, here's the deal. The Colts

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Speaker 9: Did the Colts make a good deal?

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Speaker 17: Gotta wait and see, right, I'll give it a B.

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Speaker 17: You had to give a two first to get them.

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Speaker 17: But I don't like the move. I like the aggressiveness.

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Speaker 17: right now today I feel very good about this trade.

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Speaker 9: Kevin Bowen, where would you put this trade? As we

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 15: I feel like I saw headlines on both sides. The

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Speaker 9: That happens everywhere. I feel like, yeah, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 15: For both teams it made a lot of sense.

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Speaker 15: The Colts obviously feel like they are in a position

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Speaker 9: All right, So the Colts now well hopefully have Sauce

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Speaker 9: All Right Down Again starts at the Fieldhouse seven pm,

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Speaker 9: six thirty year time here on the fan. Last night,

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Speaker 17: That train, I think it's funny that saws Gardner could

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Speaker 9: All right, looking forward to all of that, a lot

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Speaker 9: James Boyd Kevin Boonene. As we continue, it's ninety three

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Speaker 9: to five. Well, ye, I'm in on Ady Mitchell kind

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Speaker 15: For all kid numbers or James eighty catches for seven

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Speaker 9: This is that is that way out of the of

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Speaker 19: No, you send Sauce Gardner to Indianapolis, Indiana, two first

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Speaker 19: a nice having you here. You know, we got Pittman,

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Speaker 9: Send him to the Jets. I'm in on Ady emerging,

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Speaker 1: Year for him.

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Speaker 9: Now I think it'll be more than that.

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Speaker 20: We'll see, I'll own it.

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Speaker 9: I don't mind. I still think he's an incredibly talented guy.

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Speaker 9: He's incredibly adept at shaking free of people, getting himself

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Speaker 9: open in space. When he figures it out, he's going

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Speaker 9: to be a number one receiver. James Boyd. I don't

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Speaker 9: know if it's going to be in the next year

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Speaker 9: two years, but I think he's going to be a

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Speaker 9: really good player in this league. I still do.

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Speaker 15: Mark him picturing the scene from et Ady Mitchell forwards

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Speaker 15: the last night and Jeff just out in the front

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Speaker 15: yard yep, looking up into the sky. Heads out there,

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Speaker 15: got one out for him. He's in poor something out

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Speaker 15: for him.

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Speaker 9: In my mind, they traded Ad for saus Gardner around

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Speaker 9: going to.

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Speaker 15: Boys in the front lawn as they slowly walk back indoors.

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Speaker 9: Mark, let's get some reaction to cults Nation over the

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Speaker 9: trading of a D Mitchell for Sauce Gardner. Oh, by

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Speaker 9: the way, two first round draft picks went along with that.

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Speaker 9: To the New York Jets yesterday, who do we have

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Speaker 9: on the line to get things started off? Good to John, John,

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Speaker 9: good morning and Welcome in to the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 9: Give me your thoughts and first reaction to the Cults

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Speaker 9: trading for Sauce Gardener.

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Speaker 21: First reaction trying not to laugh to that image of

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Speaker 21: you and the boys thinking about it. But you know,

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Speaker 21: Sauce has shown that he can be a top three

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Speaker 21: corner in the league. He's going to be a good

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Speaker 21: fit and lose offense. And ultimately this is the next

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Speaker 21: best thing after getting an elite pass rusher, is getting

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Speaker 21: an elite cornerback who can help generate more coverage sex.

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Speaker 21: There's been a lot of talk, especially national media, about

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Speaker 21: what the Colts gave up. I think in the case

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Speaker 21: of any trade, you have to look at the team

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Speaker 21: itself and what they have, what they stand to lose.

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Speaker 21: First round pick next year, it's going to be in

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Speaker 21: the twenties. What would you potentially take. You probably want

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Speaker 21: to get a cornerback. Oh, well you could possibly get

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Speaker 21: in the elite cornerback at say twenty eight or hopefully

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Speaker 21: thirty two. Well, here's your guy.

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Speaker 3: This is a moment when you got to.

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Speaker 21: Put all chips in periods, so to speak. And as

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Speaker 21: the Colts the end, you just have to be you know,

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Speaker 21: a bit shocked but grateful that this is what they've

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Speaker 21: ballied in the Big three have chosen to do. And

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Speaker 21: you know, as fans, we're very motivated. Let's let's show

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Speaker 21: them what we got and hopefully make a deep run.

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Speaker 21: And you know we've been on Ballard hasn't made you know,

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Speaker 21: moves in free agency, hasn't made moves at the deadline. Well,

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Speaker 21: he made big moves in the secondary and free agency.

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Speaker 21: Here's this huge deadline moves. Let's get after him, show

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Speaker 21: him what we got.

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Speaker 15: Thanks guys, John cal we get one more All Chips In.

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Speaker 15: I thought the first one.

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Speaker 9: Was excellent.

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Speaker 15: Out gosh, I was really hoping we get chips and

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Speaker 15: was that Jim Merseay and Quinn Buckner having a child there?

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Speaker 14: You know what?

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Speaker 17: You know, I can only do a Quinn Okay. I

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Speaker 17: did go back and watch that video though, use it

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Speaker 17: in my story.

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Speaker 9: Ship and period there we go.

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Speaker 17: Yeah see, I don't know if I could do that

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Speaker 17: kind of voice. And also I can't you know that.

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Speaker 15: Didn't really seem to play out to All Chips In.

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Speaker 15: By the way, memory service, right.

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Speaker 17: I mean, it took a few years to get there,

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Speaker 17: but we're here now. I will say I can't interpret

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Speaker 17: that or really reenact that, because I'm not rich enough

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Speaker 17: to have the chopper in the back. I don't know

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Speaker 17: if I if I send it on the tarmac over

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Speaker 17: at the airport, I think I might get arrested.

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Speaker 9: We've got a text here from Elliott who wants to

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Speaker 9: know did Ballard get hit over the head? The Chris

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Speaker 9: Ballard I've been bashing the last few years has gotten

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Speaker 9: everything right. This year, got the quarterback right, hammered the

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Speaker 9: first round, picked with Warren, made aggressive signing with Ward

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Speaker 9: and biting him in the off season, and yesterday the

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Speaker 9: blockbuster double down trade for Sauce Ballard. I am now

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Speaker 9: off your back. You put the cults on the map

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Speaker 9: yesterday saying we are all in congratulations for making Colts

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Speaker 9: fans happy and giving us hope. Kevin Bowen, how do

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Speaker 9: you feel about a lot of people saying that today?

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Speaker 15: You know, I think certainly I would add two defensive philosophy.

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Speaker 15: You know, Ballot, I think it had been a big

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Speaker 15: fan of what they were doing previously. I don't know

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Speaker 15: how much Schaine Stiken kind of influenced the lou Anarumo higher,

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Speaker 15: but you know they obviously were on the same page

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Speaker 15: to you know, get a little bit more creative on

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Speaker 15: that side of the ball, which I thought was absolutely critical.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, I mean, I think when you have eight

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Speaker 15: years of the results that you have, you don't want

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Speaker 15: to see continued stubbornness. You don't want to see you know, no, no, no,

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna double and triple down. You want to see change,

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Speaker 15: you want to see. You know, I've used this quite

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Speaker 15: often with Kevin Prichard. You know, Okay, sabonus and Turner

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Speaker 15: is not going to work. We got to do something different.

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Speaker 15: It takes a lot, I think when your positions of

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Speaker 15: authority to admit when you're wrong, to admit that your

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Speaker 15: blueprint isn't working, to admit that you should do something else.

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Speaker 15: And I think that's what you've seen from Chris Boward

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Speaker 15: here over the last you know, seven or eight months

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Speaker 15: on a variety of levels. Again, I would go back

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Speaker 15: to January in the defensive scheme, to John's call there earlier.

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Speaker 15: Look at the whiteouts. You're about to play the rest

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Speaker 15: of the season, you know, and we'll see how much

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Speaker 15: Drake or how much Sauce Gardner can play on Sunday.

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Speaker 15: But you got Drake London this week, you got Rashid Rice.

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Speaker 15: When you come back to the bye, you've got Nico Collins,

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Speaker 15: You've got Jackson Smith in Jibba, You've got we'll see

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Speaker 15: about Travis Hunter and his health, but you've got Brian

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Speaker 15: Thomas Jr. I mean, these are some very notable whiteouts

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Speaker 15: that you're going to face the rest of the season.

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Speaker 15: And so you know your cornerback room getting to this

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Speaker 15: leve We're gonna see Nino Collins twice. You're gonna see

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Speaker 15: the Jacksonville whatever do oh they trade for Jacob Baller

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Speaker 15: and Nico just seemingly cooks the Colts. You know, it

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Speaker 15: is I think paramount that you try to address the

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Speaker 15: area of your team that was not at a January level,

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Speaker 15: and that is the passing game. And you know, the

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Speaker 15: whole Ballard thought is always a debatable one.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 15: I try to look at Ballat's ten years. Let's evaluate

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Speaker 15: each individual move by no means. I think Chris Baoud

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Speaker 15: has been a poor drafter. I think he's had big

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Speaker 15: misses at the premium positions too often, particularly on the

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Speaker 15: defensive side of the ball. I'm talking edge rusher in

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Speaker 15: corner and when you look at the side of the building.

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Speaker 15: Guys mostly the side of the building guys are not

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Speaker 15: premium position players. Well, this is an attempt to get

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Speaker 15: an elite talent at a premium sort of position, and

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Speaker 15: if you are able to hit on that, then all

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Speaker 15: of a sudden, this is a team that could be

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Speaker 15: one of the last standings. So that I think is

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Speaker 15: a hat tip of Hey, if we're going to take swings,

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Speaker 15: you're not taking a swing for whatever, A guard, a linebacker.

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Speaker 15: You know, even as great as Jonathan Taylor's been in

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Speaker 15: his career or the Force Buckner's been his career, how

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Speaker 15: many playoff games of the Colts one with those guys,

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Speaker 15: That's just the reality. So, you know, taking a swing

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Speaker 15: for again, to me, one of the more elite positions

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Speaker 15: that you can take a swing for is something that

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Speaker 15: makes it makes a lot of sense, even though the

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Speaker 15: price tag is one of the biggest, if not the biggest,

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Speaker 15: in franchise history.

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Speaker 9: Two through nine, ten seventy number to call. Let's go

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Speaker 9: to Matthew next on the Fan Morning show. Matthew, let

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Speaker 9: it out. What do you got for me today?

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Speaker 22: Hey, good morning, fellas. I don't have too much to

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Speaker 22: talk about today. To be honest with you. I do

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Speaker 22: work every weekend, so I don't get to see a

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Speaker 22: lot of the Colts games. But I haven't called in

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Speaker 22: a few months, so I thought I would at least

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Speaker 22: call to acknowledge the Colts trade is definitely solid. I

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Speaker 22: don't want to give Ballard a ton of credit for it.

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Speaker 22: I'd rather give credit to Carly. I think it was

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Speaker 22: more fer hand than his.

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Speaker 9: Hmm. Interesting. I appreciate the phone call. What about the

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Speaker 9: people James that are saying this is all Chris Ballard's

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Speaker 9: thinking all changed once Thesa girls took over.

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Speaker 17: That's a hard one answer. I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 17: I just think that they're a lot better than anybody

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Speaker 17: saithm to be. So I don't know, if you know,

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Speaker 17: any owner is gonna sign off on this move if

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Speaker 17: you're five and four versus being seven and two. So

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Speaker 17: I pushed back on that, I think, and I think

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Speaker 17: that would insinuate that. Carl Air said Gordon is like

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Speaker 17: this super hands on owner where and I get that

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Speaker 17: she wears the head set she's on the sideline and

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Speaker 17: that kind of makes the headlines. But in reality, from

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Speaker 17: everything I understand about her ownership, style and what I've

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Speaker 17: gleaned from people who work with her every day, it

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Speaker 17: seems like she's very much allowing people to do their

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Speaker 17: jobs and allowing them to do, you know, what they

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Speaker 17: have to to hopefully make this team better. Now I'm

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Speaker 17: not saying she doesn't have a saying who you know

612
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Speaker 17: comes and who goes. Obviously their ownership group has to

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Speaker 17: pay the players you bring in, and saws Gardner is getting,

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Speaker 17: you know, a nice bag to come over to the Colts.

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Speaker 17: But no, I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you bring up the bag that Sauce Gardner has.

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Speaker 9: It's pretty friendly the first year or two, but it

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Speaker 9: starts to late and by the end of his contract

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Speaker 9: you're looking at over thirty million dollars of salary. So

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Speaker 9: it really is let's see how these first couple of

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Speaker 9: years work out and then we'll go from there.

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Speaker 17: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And then I look at it like,

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Speaker 17: what's the guaranteed money that's left on the deal. I

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Speaker 17: think it's forty And then when's you're out, meaning when

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Speaker 17: does the guaranteed money in? And you know, after whatever season,

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Speaker 17: because honestly, if you're not a quarterback, you rarely ever

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Speaker 17: get all of the money anyway. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 17: this is a fairly team friendly deal. I would have

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Speaker 17: to go back and look at the specifics of it,

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Speaker 17: but from what I understand, you know, if you look

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Speaker 17: at the salary cap and the way that position group

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Speaker 17: is getting paid. I mean, Sarros Gardner a few months

633
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Speaker 17: ago signed of the richest deal ever for a cornerback,

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Speaker 17: and then you know how it goes Kevin and a

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Speaker 17: year that'll be the fifth highest paid cornerback in the league.

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Speaker 17: And it looked very good, especially if Sauce is able

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Speaker 17: to return to an all pro form.

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Speaker 15: James big picture, yesterday's move says what to you? And

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Speaker 15: let me throw a couple of Oh okay, Chris Bout

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Speaker 15: and Jane Stiking. I guess we want to tie them

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Speaker 15: at the hip. Let's has talked to Ballard because he's

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Speaker 15: a longer term guy. He's going nowhere. Now you're here

643
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Speaker 15: to stay, brother, We'll see about the extension he is,

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Speaker 15: I believe through twenty twenty six. We'll see how that

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Speaker 15: plays out. Daniel Jones, Oh you're here, brothers. It's either

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Speaker 15: a franchise tag or an extension. And samoth Alec Pierce, Yes,

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Speaker 15: I mean because you drafted in theory in the past.

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Speaker 15: You drafted Ady Mitchell with the idea that he would

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Speaker 15: morph into a number two type of receiver, possibly number one,

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Speaker 15: and he hasn't amount to any of that. He isn't

651
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Speaker 15: even close to that.

652
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Speaker 17: So with Alex having the year that he's having, yeah,

653
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Speaker 17: I definitely than't he's somebody you got.

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Speaker 15: To pay anything else I missed.

655
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Speaker 17: I guess my question that I've been wrestling with is

656
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Speaker 17: what would be a successful season now? Meaning is this

657
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Speaker 17: we have to get to the super Bowl or it

658
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Speaker 17: was all a waste? Or in my mind, I'm like,

659
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Speaker 17: is the AFC Championship Game enough for you to say

660
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Speaker 17: this was worth it and we're building something here and

661
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Speaker 17: we are close to breaking through.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's a great question. I definitely wrestle with the

663
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Speaker 15: same thing last night as well. And I've kind of

664
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Speaker 15: come back to these three things in defining the success

665
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Speaker 15: of this trade. One Sauce Gardner getting back to be

666
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Speaker 15: an all pro. I don't want to act like he's

667
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Speaker 15: been a bad corner by any means here over the

668
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Speaker 15: last couple of years, but you know you are sending

669
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Speaker 15: a message by sending two first round picks for him

670
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Speaker 15: that you think you are one of the best players

671
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Speaker 15: period at your position. So that's for Gardner individually as

672
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Speaker 15: a defensive unit. As a whole, you got to have

673
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Speaker 15: a top five defense. I'll go back to what I

674
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Speaker 15: said earlier in the show. I would argue there's not

675
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Speaker 15: another defense in the NFL that has more first, second,

676
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Speaker 15: third round picks either where they were drafted or how

677
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 15: they were required than the Colts, plus all the contractual

678
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Speaker 15: money involved in that unit. And lastly, I don't know

679
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Speaker 15: if you necessarily say, James like super Bowl or bust

680
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 15: this year, but at some point here and however, we

681
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Speaker 15: want to define this window two to three years. I

682
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 15: don't know what you know, how long this window is open?

683
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Speaker 15: I get, especially in football, it changes so fast. I mean, hell,

684
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Speaker 15: two months ago it was blow everything up and now

685
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 15: two months.

686
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 17: Story was the window was boarded up after you missed

687
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 17: the know you missed the playoffs at their four straight year.

688
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Speaker 23: Uh.

689
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Speaker 15: And at some point you gotta you gotta, you gotta

690
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Speaker 15: win a super Bowl period. I mean, you don't trade

691
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Speaker 15: to first, you know, you don't make the move for

692
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Speaker 15: Jalen Ramsey or AJ Brown and the Rams and the

693
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 15: Eagles just to you know, make it to January. No, no, no,

694
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 15: you do it to hoist it, to use the Chuck

695
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 15: Pigano phrase, So that I think is a very fair barometer.

696
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 15: And I get that it's as lofty as it comes

697
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Speaker 15: from a team's success standpoint, but I mean it is

698
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 15: very rare for teams to trade to first round picks

699
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 15: and consecutive drafts, and like, I don't want to act

700
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 15: like Ady Mitchell has obviously done much in the NFL,

701
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 15: but to other teams around the NFL, Ady Mitchell is

702
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Speaker 15: an attractive piece.

703
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

704
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Speaker 15: I mean I'd be hard pressed in my whatever thirteen

705
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 15: years covering the Colts to find a player that has

706
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 15: been more universally talked about for his individual talent by

707
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 15: the coaching staff than Adie Mitchell. Yeah, I mean, Jimbob Couter,

708
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 15: Reggie Wayne James. They almost weekly go out of their

709
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 15: way to express what they feel in Adi Mitchell. I

710
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 15: think they draft them thinking a little project, like absolutely,

711
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Speaker 15: and we're only a year and a half into it,

712
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Speaker 15: so obviously the two first round picks are ten years

713
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 15: of team control. Yeah, I mean that's a big deal.

714
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Speaker 15: You know, Mitchell of course is already you know, nearly

715
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 15: halfway through his rookie contract. But yeah, that's where I

716
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Speaker 15: would go, saus Gardner, back to an All Pro defense

717
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 15: being a top five unit, and I don't know about this,

718
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Speaker 15: I mean this year, Yeah, AFC title. Yeah, that's probably

719
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Speaker 15: where I would go. But at some point in this era,

720
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Speaker 15: you gotta win it all absolutely.

721
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Speaker 17: Then, one thing to make clear on the trade that

722
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Speaker 17: involved Adie Mitchell from my guy, that's the athletic our

723
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Speaker 17: Jets reporter Zach Rosenblatt, who will talk to in nine

724
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Speaker 17: o'clock hour. He reported that initially the trade did not

725
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Speaker 17: include Adie Mitchell in the Jets push form, so they

726
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 17: believe in his talent, physical gifts. And I think I

727
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 17: wrote that in my story yesterday he is or was

728
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 17: the most physically gifted wide receiver on the roster. I

729
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 17: don't think that was even a question. I mean, the guy,

730
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Speaker 17: if you look at his what was the RAS the

731
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Speaker 17: relative athletic scorer we all look at and for those

732
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Speaker 17: who think I'm not speaking English, that basically is on

733
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Speaker 17: a ten point scale, how athletic are you for your position?

734
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Speaker 17: And I believe Adi Mitchell is like a nine point

735
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Speaker 17: ninety nine, So you know he's big fast, strong, can

736
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Speaker 17: run like the win so to speak.

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Speaker 15: But Chris Bolitz the Bible Book exactly right.

738
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Speaker 17: But I think the issue that has played Ady Mitchell

739
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Speaker 17: so far in his career is the mental side of

740
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Speaker 17: the game. Can you lock in enough to be an

741
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Speaker 17: actually productive player? And that's the challenge that he will

742
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Speaker 17: face in New York. And to be quite honest with you, yes,

743
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 17: they might believe in your talent, but at the same time,

744
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 17: you're going to a situation where it's going to be

745
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Speaker 17: harder in my opinion, to show that Joe case that

746
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Speaker 17: talent they have. The Jets have pleaded the third fewest

747
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 17: PAS in the lead. You're not going to an offense

748
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 17: that airs it out like with the Colts. And when

749
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 17: I was going back and reading the story, when I

750
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 17: talked to Adie Mitchell about the fumble his mindset afterwards,

751
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 17: and he said, you know, my biggest takeaway from dropping

752
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 17: the ball in LA was not just holding onto the ball.

753
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 17: It was oh, I'm expendable. And he used those words.

754
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 17: He literally said, quote, they don't need a wide receiver,

755
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 17: they already have some.

756
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Speaker 9: And you know, lo and behold, you're getting moved.

757
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Speaker 15: And if you believe the Jets GM who spoke yesterday.

758
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 15: He pretty much said that the Colts deal kept on

759
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 15: getting richer and richer.

760
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Speaker 9: It was not.

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Speaker 15: And again, believe what you will, but you know, I think,

762
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Speaker 15: based off where I was at the trade deadline from

763
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Speaker 15: a New York standpoint, I had heard quentnin William's name

764
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Speaker 15: more than I had heard sauce Gardner's. Stay right, and basically,

765
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Speaker 15: once the deal got to two first round picks, and

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Speaker 15: as James just said right there, it did sound like

767
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Speaker 15: the Ady Mitchell aspect to it kind of said, all right, now,

768
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Speaker 15: it's just not the pure picks. Also the player thrown

769
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Speaker 15: in there.

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Speaker 9: All right, let's go to the phone lines two three nine.

771
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Speaker 9: On the Fan Morning Show, the Colts trade two first

772
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Speaker 9: round draft picks and ad Mitchell to the New York

773
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Speaker 9: Jets for cornerback sauce Gardner, a two time pro bowler,

774
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Speaker 9: all pro, I should say too, coming off concussion though,

775
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 9: So we'll wait and see if his availability is good

776
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 9: for Sunday in Berlin. Jinga Ninja joined us next here

777
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 9: on the Fan Morning Show. You got to live up

778
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 9: to that name. Now, what's up?

779
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 24: Hello's good morning.

780
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 9: Good morning, what's up?

781
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 24: All right, Tupac had the juice. We got the sauce.

782
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 9: We know that now, good start start.

783
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Speaker 13: Mark.

784
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Speaker 24: Feel free to hit me on the ones and twos.

785
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Speaker 3: JB.

786
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Speaker 24: I'm killing you.

787
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Speaker 25: In the chat.

788
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Speaker 24: You look good, dog, I'm kidding.

789
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Speaker 20: I appreciate it.

790
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 13: Anytime you do.

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Speaker 24: I'm getting killed in the chat too. I really think

792
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Speaker 24: A d Mitchell is gonna George Dickens.

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Speaker 13: That's right here.

794
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Speaker 24: As long as the Jets can get any sort of

795
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 24: a quarterback in the draft tank, this year gets quarterback

796
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 24: Aden Mitchell is borderline all pro. Next year, guarantee it.

797
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 9: I'm gonna buy you lunch.

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Speaker 3: You hire you for this.

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Speaker 9: Call about to say, you know, but I will.

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Speaker 24: Hey, if we're going with a nine point nine r

801
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 24: A s that man can ball. Let's he's just mentally

802
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 24: not there.

803
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: Let's get this man problem.

804
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 9: You gotta.

805
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Speaker 24: Trade and the scenery is gonna I'm telling you, it's

806
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 24: gonna help him. And the blonder kid's gonna come in

807
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 24: work his butt off. I'm gonna go to a news

808
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 24: I think that's gonna happen.

809
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 13: But it's all on the.

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00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 24: Jets and because they are horrible now he can play

811
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Speaker 24: as good as he wants to play. But they're tremendously

812
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 24: bad and can't get him the ball.

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Speaker 15: You think fans would feel it? Jinging Ninja, thank you

814
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 15: for the call, Jeff will venmo you here shortly. Uh

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00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 15: do you think fans are feeling differently if it was

816
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Speaker 15: Anthony Richardson in the trade versus Adie Mitchell. Thank you

817
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Speaker 15: to Heath for that.

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Speaker 9: I think it would be probably more of a some

819
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 9: fans that would.

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Speaker 17: I think it would be more of like a bigger

821
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Speaker 17: reaction to, Hey, this is the number four pick you're

822
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Speaker 17: punning on him.

823
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Speaker 9: He told us he was a future.

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Speaker 17: But honestly, Kevin, I fel like that's a conversation that

825
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Speaker 17: we'll have at the end of the season. I don't

826
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Speaker 17: see a world where you give up two first round

827
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Speaker 17: picks and you hold on to a quarterback who, by

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Speaker 17: the way, is not going to be your guy moving forward.

829
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Speaker 17: So do you try to recoup some of your draft

830
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 17: capital that way? But probably grab more headlines if it

831
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Speaker 17: was ar but player for player, I mean, who's more

832
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 17: valuable at this point in their career.

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Speaker 15: I did think about this yesterday, going back to the

834
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Speaker 15: Deforce Buckner trade. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Buckner

835
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 15: and Sauce Gardner a kind of similar ages in their

836
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Speaker 15: respective NFL careers upon these trades. Buckner was traded for

837
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Speaker 15: the thirteenth overall pick, so obviously a higher pick than

838
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 15: what you think the Colts will be this year, but

839
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Speaker 15: that was it. That was the only pick he was

840
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 15: traded for. With Sauce, you are trading another first round pick.

841
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 15: And then again, however you want to define Ady Mitchell's

842
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 15: trade value, like I think Buckner's been a really really

843
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 15: good player, and to kind of make the equivalent of

844
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 15: like what does Sauce Gardner then need to play at

845
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 15: to make you think the same way you do about

846
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Speaker 15: the Forest Buckner trade.

847
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Speaker 9: You want them to come back and be an all

848
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 9: pro again.

849
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 15: Yeah, which again which is very high, high praise, And

850
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 15: I think there's an element of team success like people

851
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 15: would call the Buckner trade. I think if you did

852
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 15: a poll, people would say Buckner trade was a good one.

853
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, I like it.

854
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 15: And the team success has been what nothing.

855
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 9: But that's one player out of twenty two as well.

856
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 15: Right, But again, when you make these trades, when you

857
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 15: trade first round pick, and now this being picks plurally,

858
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 15: there is a team component you can't ignore. You can't

859
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 15: just sit here and say, oh yeah, you know, checking

860
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 15: a box of January and putting up a wild card

861
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 15: participant banner is enough.

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00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 17: I will say this to your point about what it

863
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 17: means to the rest of the team. What does this

864
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 17: move me for your pass rush? You guys got to

865
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 17: get home. If Sauce Gardner returns to an all pro level,

866
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 17: Javarius Ward returns and he's back to an all pro level,

867
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Speaker 17: you got two guys who are studs on the outside.

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Speaker 17: You have Kennymore the second in the slot, who, by

869
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Speaker 17: the way, is a stud as well. If you cannot

870
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 17: get home, which has been an issue for them this year,

871
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 17: if you can't bring consistent pressure and make life miserable

872
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 17: on the opposing qbs, moving forward, Lord have mercy, I

873
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 17: will have a lot of doubt moving forward about this

874
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 17: past Rows group, because this is a dream. If you're

875
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 17: if you are a defensive end right now today on

876
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 17: the coach roster, you're thinking, all right, these guys can

877
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 17: go press man and we can just go get out

878
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 17: to the quarterback.

879
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 9: And that's the idea.

880
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 17: I do think that it'll allow Luin Arumo, the coach,

881
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 17: the defensive coordinator to be more aggressive with some of

882
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 17: his play calls because he trusts the back end more.

883
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 17: But you got to get home. I mean this is, hey,

884
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 17: we didn't go get a defensive end. We believe enough

885
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 17: in you guys, so make me right.

886
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's the beauty of Russian cover is that you

887
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 15: do have the ability even though you didn't acquire specifically

888
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 15: a pass rusher too, and James, you just laid it

889
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 15: out perfectly to still impact that part of the game,

890
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 15: which you know, again when we have these conversations the

891
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 15: past whatever week or two, I was a little bit

892
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 15: more team pass rush than corner. But they do go

893
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 15: hand in hand to a degree. Right, Obviously, the pass

894
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 15: rusher can insert himself into the game. I would, I

895
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 15: would argue easily acts like well, first off, that's not

896
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 15: a word. Secondly, you know TJ. Watts probably the best

897
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 15: example of the last Sunday. You know, you just don't

898
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 15: throw out a corner for example. So yes, he impacts

899
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 15: the game, but the pass rusher can literally go get

900
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 15: the football a little bit easier.

901
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 9: I think it's also clear looking back at the trade deadline,

902
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 9: all the big names that people talked about for pass

903
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 9: rushing and some of them were already said to not

904
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 9: be on the market, right. We knew that Max Crosby

905
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 9: and Miles Garrett were said by their teams they are

906
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 9: not going anywhere. Brian Burns didn't get moved by the giants.

907
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 9: I didn't even hear a lot of chatter about that.

908
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 9: That didn't seem like it was going to happen. Trey Hendrickson,

909
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 9: you know, So I also wonder if after kicking the

910
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 9: tires and looking around at defensive end and edge rusher,

911
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 9: there really wasn't a huge upgrade guy to be had,

912
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 9: So then you turn your attention to corner and go

913
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 9: all in at that position. I think kind of feels

914
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 9: like that's kind of how it went down.

915
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 26: I think what Sauce Gardner got basically like the market

916
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 26: Michael Parson's trade means that the demand for pass rusher

917
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 26: or the compensation for pass rusher was so outlandish, people like,

918
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 26: we can't even go there.

919
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 15: It's too crazy.

920
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 9: Two first rounders and a wide receiver for a corner.

921
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 26: Right, But so then what was that going for Trey

922
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 26: Hendrickson or Max Crosby, Like you're probably starting at three

923
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 26: first round picks or something.

924
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 15: Have the Colts been in the position Green Bay was

925
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 15: in back in the start of September. Do you think

926
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 15: they would have been in the mix for that Michael

927
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 15: Parson's type of deal.

928
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 9: If they knew they had the a quarterback.

929
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think for sure, Right, if you knew, you

930
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 15: sure view pass rush like that or they view corner

931
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 15: like that.

932
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 17: I think they view passed for us like that. I

933
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 17: think every team has to. Yeah, Micah is Michaeh.

934
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 15: Because they've been much more active at corner. Yeah here

935
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 15: in the last two months. But I I love Sauce Gardner.

936
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 15: But if you put them on a list, who's more valuable,

937
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 15: I think you say Michael Parson is not even close.

938
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 15: Pass rusher is the second most important position in football

939
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 15: in my opinion. Yeah, definitely.

940
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 9: Let's go talk to Dave next to two three nine

941
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 9: seventy on The Fan Morning Show. You go, oh, we

942
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 9: got to take a break already, and we we got

943
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 9: rolling there. Yeah, Stephen Holder coming up next. We'll get

944
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 9: some phone calls on the other side of that. It's

945
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 9: The Fan Morning Show at ninety three five and one seven.

946
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh, my lord, the Jets are trading Sauce

947
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Gardener to the Indianapolis Colts.

948
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner, sauce Gardner, sauce Gardner.

949
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 9: He's an Indianapolis Colt.

950
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: We were shocked, got the opinions on sauce Gardener.

951
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 4: Wow, Wowow.

952
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: The Colts looking for a help on the back end

953
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: of that secondary to help lou Ana Roumo. So they

954
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: go all in and make the trade for sauce Gardener

955
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six first round picks, twenty twenty seven first

956
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 5: round pick.

957
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 6: The Colts just determined our time is right now, our

958
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 6: window is right now. We just opened it up, and

959
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 6: sauce Gardener is on his way.

960
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 7: This is not the same old, same old. This is different.

961
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 8: A team that has aspirations of winning the Super Bowl

962
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 8: open next year or two, which I think they should.

963
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 9: The windows wide open.

964
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: It's just a massive, massive swing here by the Colts.

965
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 10: Collard neversas stuff like this.

966
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 11: This has the opportunity to be the best secondary in

967
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 11: football in Indianapolis right now, especially turned around.

968
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 12: Guys, we are back, baby, we are we are back.

969
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: We got a classic.

970
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 9: We are backs.

971
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 20: We are back.

972
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 14: I don't want you to put the word up tore

973
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 14: we back them. I understand me. We back on.

974
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 9: What Mark Dychen outstanding work. And the question today is

975
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 9: are the cults in fact and where they met? According

976
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 9: to they are shout out to the wire. There you go.

977
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 9: Let's go to the payless lookers hotline right now. One

978
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 9: of our favorites. He covers the colts at ESPN dot com.

979
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 9: Steven Halder joining us on this fine Wednesday morning, Steven,

980
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 9: are the cults in fact back? And what does that mean?

981
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 16: Even well? Mark Dyson first of all, the MVP with

982
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 16: the wire reference first thing in the morning. Look, I

983
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 16: think they they are definitely onto something here. They think

984
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 16: they are Excuse me, that's some allogies going on, so

985
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 16: bear with me here, but they think this is their time.

986
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 16: I agree with that, and now they've got.

987
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 9: To go prove it right.

988
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 16: This is the boldest move they have made since I

989
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 16: don't even know for sure, the boldest move under Chris Ballard.

990
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 16: And I think you have to take the context here.

991
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 16: Chris Ballard someone who is more likely to trade out

992
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 16: of the first round and try to collect more picks

993
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 16: and values his picks more than perhaps anybody in the NFL.

994
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 16: That's the guy who did this. So imagine the conviction

995
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 16: they must have for him of all people to make

996
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 16: this deal. So I think they are thoroughly convinced that

997
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 16: they have a shot here. And I don't think they

998
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 16: I don't. I don't think there's anything wrong with them

999
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 16: seeing it that way. I think they're right to feel

1000
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 16: that way.

1001
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 17: Well, I'll tell you what, Steven, you better get those

1002
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 17: allergies together. Brother, you can't be allergency.

1003
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 9: The sauce. The sauce just got here, okay, so get

1004
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 9: it together. Today. I sound terrible, I'll be on TV.

1005
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 16: Sound like a like an allergy commercial.

1006
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 9: But anyhow, that's all right. You're a pro.

1007
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 17: You know again, I won't snitch to anybody about how

1008
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 17: you get things done. I remember a few times, you know,

1009
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 17: the the upper torso was all dressed up and then

1010
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 17: he had a couple of you know, shorts of sneakers

1011
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 17: on it.

1012
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 9: Underneath.

1013
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 17: That's a little you know secret there for those listening

1014
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 17: from home. But all seriousness, Stephen, When you look at

1015
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 17: what this move means beyond on just the position itself,

1016
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 17: bringing in sauce, Gardner find to bulls of your secondary

1017
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 17: what do you think it says about the faith carly ERSA.

1018
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 17: Gordon has in the regime that being Chris Ballad and

1019
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 17: Shane Styking.

1020
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think she's a lot like her father. I mean,

1021
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 16: she wants to win, all right. I will tell you

1022
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 16: she's not spending all those hours in the building and

1023
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 16: putting in all that work just to be eight and nine.

1024
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 24: All right.

1025
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 16: That woman works hard from every indication, right, we all

1026
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 16: see her all the time. And you can agree or disagree,

1027
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 16: or like or dislike how she goes about her job.

1028
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 16: We don't even know anyway, right, But the point is

1029
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 16: she's not doing all of that just to be average.

1030
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 16: And she was very clear about that, I thought when

1031
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 16: she spoke to us in her initial press conference.

1032
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 6: Right.

1033
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 16: I mean she was raised by the man, a man

1034
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 16: who cared more about winning than anybody perhaps in that building. Right,

1035
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 16: Jim ersay, he wore his feeling on his sleeve, and

1036
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 16: this is his offspring. Okay, so why would she be

1037
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 16: any different? So I think it reinforces what we probably

1038
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 16: should have known about Carlie Ersa Gordon, which is that

1039
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 16: she wants to win, and she wants to win big.

1040
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 15: Steven Holder ESPN where you can find his work, Stephen,

1041
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 15: this is a great trade.

1042
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 9: If what happens, it's a great trade.

1043
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 16: If Sauce can play like Sauce is capable of playing,

1044
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 16: because he's been a little inconsistent, that's just a reality. Now.

1045
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 16: Do we attribute some of that to the ups and

1046
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 16: downs of playing for the Jets a mound more bounds franchise?

1047
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 16: Maybe is he just this was he just disinterested at times?

1048
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 16: I don't know, but I think if there's anything that

1049
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 16: can get you to lock in and to be the

1050
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 16: player that you can be, it's an opportunity to go

1051
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 16: win the Super Bowl. So I think the culture on

1052
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 16: that here, they're counting on him to come in and

1053
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 16: to reset and to be the guy that he knows

1054
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 16: he can be. And the reason I say it'll be

1055
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 16: a success if that happens is because if he can

1056
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 16: get back to being that guy, and he's not that

1057
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 16: far away, but if he can be that guy, they

1058
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 16: have potentially an elite defense with that secondary. I don't

1059
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 16: think that's a stretch. I mean an absolute chance to

1060
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 16: be elite. That secondary could be the best in the game.

1061
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 16: If this guy comes out and plays the way he

1062
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 16: knows how to play.

1063
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 9: We've been talking about that this morning. But also the

1064
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 9: fact that does that secondary allow your pass rush that

1065
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 9: extra half second, as James says to get home. Does

1066
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 9: any of it matter if they still can't pressure the

1067
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 9: opposing quarterback?

1068
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's for sure, right, And I would say this,

1069
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 16: I've been on a record and I'll say it again.

1070
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 16: I really think the pass rush has been adequate and

1071
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 16: would have been more consistent if they did not have

1072
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 16: what has been, you know, essentially at times a practice

1073
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 16: squad level group of cornerbacks. You know, the injuries really

1074
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 16: were devastating. Now they're getting better, they're getting healthier. Kenny

1075
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 16: Moore's back, Jalen Jones finally makes his debut last week,

1076
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 16: so that that has changed, but they still have had

1077
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 16: at times one or two frankly bottom up the roster

1078
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 16: guys out there playing cornerback in on Sunday against Aaron

1079
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 16: Rodgers of all people. Right, So that's going to change.

1080
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 16: And then after the bye week, we would hope, I

1081
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 16: presume that mooney Ward comes back. I mean that is

1082
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 16: think about it. Patrick Mahomes may have to go in

1083
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 16: and game plan with Andy Reid knowing that he's going

1084
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 16: to face Sauce Gardner and Mooney Ward on the other side,

1085
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 16: and then Kenny Moore floating around doing what he does

1086
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 16: that is a game changer that has a whole different

1087
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 16: game plan. So I really do think if you're playing

1088
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 16: up front, if you're the Forrest Buckner, if you're Leatu Latu,

1089
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 16: you got to feel like this is the best thing

1090
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 16: that's happening to you in a long time.

1091
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 17: So Steven and again we have Stephen Holder coach's esper

1092
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 17: and Porter joining us on the pay Less Slickers hotline. Stephen,

1093
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 17: I would think because of this move, when you give

1094
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 17: up two first round picks which could have been used

1095
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 17: on quarterbacks if you wanted to go a different direction,

1096
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 17: this means that you believe in Daniel Jones. And so

1097
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 17: do you consider that just a formality at this point

1098
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 17: that he is going to be the quarterback not only

1099
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 17: this season, but beyond and for the foreseeable future.

1100
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 16: I think it's a reasonable, you know assumption. Well, you know,

1101
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 16: it's got to play out obviously, but I think it's

1102
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 16: a reasonable assumption. One of the things that but the

1103
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 16: one thing I would say is that there is some

1104
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 16: sentiment here that this is about going to win this year. Now,

1105
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 16: Sausagartner's not a rental type of acquisition, right, He's going

1106
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 16: to be here because the contract kind of dictates that.

1107
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 16: I mean, you don't give up to first round picks

1108
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 16: and then you know, cut a guy a year later.

1109
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 16: So I think they're they're all in with sauce. But

1110
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 16: I think this is about this year too to some degree.

1111
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 9: You know.

1112
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 16: One of the things that that I was told just

1113
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 16: not to say that Daniel Jones won't be here. All

1114
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 16: I'm saying is I think that is likely to happen.

1115
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 16: But I also think this their preoccupation is right now

1116
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 16: because this is an opportunity they've not had. One of

1117
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 16: the things I was told is that this move is

1118
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 16: as much about the Forest Buckner and Kenny Moore and

1119
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 16: you know, Zire Franklin and guys who have been here

1120
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 16: a long time and held out waiting for their their time,

1121
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 16: and they feel like this is their time, and this

1122
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 16: is to give them an opportunity to say, hey, let's

1123
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 16: finish this job. I remember, coming out of last year,

1124
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 16: I wondered if this if this this group of veterans

1125
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 16: they had, if it had run its course, we all wondered, right,

1126
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 16: and I thought they might blow it up. And they

1127
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 16: decided to run it back one more time with some changes,

1128
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 16: of course, and it has paid off. So I think

1129
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 16: this is now giving them an opportunity to say, hey,

1130
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 16: here's another piece, go get it done.

1131
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 17: We'll hear from this team later today or at least

1132
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 17: some of the players. If Sauce Gardner isn't made available,

1133
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 17: I would imagine that if he's in Indianapolis by now,

1134
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 17: he'll be talking today or at least tomorrow. But nevertheless,

1135
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 17: even when this trade went through and after I had

1136
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 17: done all the stories, one of the reactions I had

1137
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 17: was thinking of the guys like the Forest Buckner and

1138
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 17: Quenton Nelson, And for those two in particular, what do

1139
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 17: you think it does for them to reinvigorate maybe their

1140
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 17: belief in a franchise that they've been great for but

1141
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 17: haven't had the overall team greatness.

1142
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 16: I mean, it's a it's not even a shot in

1143
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 16: the arm man. I think it's a I think it's

1144
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 16: a it's a shot in the veins that seems like.

1145
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 16: I don't know if that makes any sense, but I mean,

1146
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 16: it have to just be a complete rejuvenation for those guys.

1147
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 16: I mean, you know, think about it. You leave all

1148
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 16: this blood, sweat and tears on the field, man, and

1149
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 16: they have nothing to show for it. You know, they've

1150
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 16: got all pro selections, they've got awards, they got a

1151
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 16: lot of money, certainly, but not a lot beyond that

1152
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 16: to show for it. And that's a tough thing to

1153
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 16: have to swallow year in and year out. And that

1154
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 16: could finally change, you know, And I think that is

1155
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 16: a big part of the motivation here. And I give

1156
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 16: the Colts credit, you know, for thinking of it in

1157
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 16: those terms, because they deserve it. I feel like that

1158
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 16: they really do think they deserve it.

1159
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 9: Steven Holder, always great to get your thoughts. Thanks for

1160
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 9: joining us again on a morning show. We know you

1161
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 9: have a valuable day ahead of you and we will

1162
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 9: talk to you again soon.

1163
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 16: All right, guys talks.

1164
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 9: There is Steven Holder with his thoughts on the Jets

1165
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 9: and Cults making a big trade yesterday. The Jets sentence

1166
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 9: Sauce Gardner our away in exchange for two first round

1167
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 9: draft picks and wide receiver A d Mitchell Madison wrights

1168
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 9: in on the fan text line and says, I think

1169
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 9: realistic expectations have shifted to win division, win a playoff game.

1170
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 9: Think that would be perfectly reasonable considering what they did

1171
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 9: yesterday and what they've done so far this year. My

1172
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 9: question to you guys is is it at least AFC

1173
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 9: Championship Game or bust at this point in time.

1174
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's how I would view it. Yeah, you aren't.

1175
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 15: You aren't trading two first round picks just to whatever

1176
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 15: be one of the final eight standing. You know, I

1177
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 15: asked this question yesterday. I think it's one of the

1178
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 15: biggest trades in franchise history. You know, the Eric Dickerson

1179
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 15: trade in eighty seven is one that I remember that vividly.

1180
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 15: I think it's one that you talk to people. You

1181
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 15: definitely got the Indianapolis Colts on the NFL map.

1182
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 25: More.

1183
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 15: That was more of a hey, let's make sure the

1184
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 15: NFL world knows that we exist. Yeah, gave us some relevance.

1185
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 15: This is more of a let's make sure we feel

1186
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 15: like we're one of the last team's standing period Like

1187
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 15: this has more of a win loss impact versus again,

1188
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 15: the Dickerson one. Yeah, relevance is a good word.

1189
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 9: To use, James.

1190
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 15: That's how I would view it. And it's just you know,

1191
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 15: this thought hit me a lot yesterday. It is amazing

1192
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 15: what has changed in two months. In two months, Daniel

1193
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 15: Jones has not only become your starting quarterback. He's now

1194
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 15: viewed as your franchise quarterback in two months. To some

1195
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 15: of the fan base, Chris Ballard's first eight years never

1196
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 15: existed and he can do no wrong. And now you've

1197
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 15: made one of the biggest trades in franchise history. It's

1198
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 15: it's just wild how And I don't know. Maybe the

1199
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 15: NFL is like this.

1200
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1201
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 15: Maybe other professional sports leagues, but I don't even think

1202
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 15: you would get this at the midway point of a

1203
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 15: I don't know, an MLB season or an NBA season.

1204
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 15: Maybe you would. Maybe I just need to pay attention

1205
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 15: to those leagues a little bit more. But yeah, I mean,

1206
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 15: you are halfway through the NFL season and the estions

1207
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 15: you've had at the Pillars are now the total opposite

1208
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 15: in how it's viewed.

1209
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 9: Yeah. Jeremy also writes in and says it just seems

1210
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 9: the last few years Colts haven't really done the big swing,

1211
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 9: which granted, the team hasn't been as good as they

1212
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 9: are this year, so it might make it harder to

1213
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 9: pull the trigger on something like yesterday that he's thinking

1214
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 9: that maybe the Big Three sees this league as a

1215
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 9: win now league and gives Ballard more freedom to do

1216
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 9: what he needs to build his team for now. I

1217
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 9: felt Jim Orsay was just living in the past, off

1218
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 9: the Manning era and could never ever move on from

1219
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 9: that thoughts on that, KB, Yeah, I.

1220
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 15: Mean I think this is more of a seven and

1221
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 15: two record more than Carl Ersay versus Jim Rsay. That's

1222
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 15: kind of how I view it. I mean, the Colts

1223
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 15: have never been in this sort of position to make

1224
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 15: the move. James, do you look at this as Carly's

1225
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 15: doing things her dad wouldn't do? Or do you view

1226
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 15: it as seven and two is different than all the

1227
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 15: other years?

1228
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 9: I think it's seven and two. I mean we have

1229
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 9: plus seven.

1230
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 15: And two plus quarterback because like when you were five

1231
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 15: and two with Jacobe in twenty nineteen, yeah, weren't.

1232
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 17: There's in trepidation there because it's like, oh, how sustainable

1233
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 17: is it? But at seven and two truly just one

1234
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 17: bad game, I would say. On Daniel Jones and his

1235
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 17: resume this year, yeah, I think that's a lot more

1236
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 17: to do with that than anything. And I get that

1237
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 17: Jim Irsay has been gone for a few months now,

1238
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 17: but I don't want to act like this guy wasn't

1239
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 17: someone who wanted to make the big moves. Like if

1240
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 17: you if you'd have told this man his team was

1241
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 17: seven and two, he might have made that trade, you know,

1242
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 17: five days for the deadline, because that's how excited he

1243
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 17: would have been about the opportunity in the window and

1244
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 17: the Lombardes he always talked about.

1245
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 9: So I don't want to act like this was an owner.

1246
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 15: That was, you know, super cheap or frugal, whatever.

1247
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 17: There were times where it probably was frustrating as a

1248
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 17: fan base to Nazis. More moves get made, but I

1249
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 17: also think that it was more complicated to make those

1250
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 17: moves because you weren't sure of the direction of your franchise.

1251
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 17: This tells me that carli Ers, Gordon and company have

1252
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 17: conviction in their quarterback, their head coach, and their GM,

1253
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 17: which is again the holy trinity of the NFL. If

1254
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 17: you believe even those three pillars of your franchise, then

1255
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 17: yet you should make the moves around them to try

1256
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 17: to get going and win the whole thing.

1257
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 15: A couple of sauce Gardener notes a mod for the

1258
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 15: first name, if anyone wants to care about that. Back

1259
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 15: to the Midwest, Detroit native played at Cincinnati. I feel

1260
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 15: like in our conversations with Alec Pierce over the years,

1261
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 15: there has been an occasional Mitchell where he's just kind

1262
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 15: of brought up Sauce Gardner just in their days collegiately.

1263
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 15: Unless I'm missing something, James and you might have found this,

1264
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 15: I don't know if there's a ton of like staff

1265
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 15: correlation or you know, connection per se to Sauce Gardener.

1266
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 15: Brian Mason was a Cincinnati the social teams coordinator for

1267
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 15: the Colts. Was it Cincinnati as Sauce was being recruited,

1268
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 15: And I want to say for at least the first

1269
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 15: couple of his seasons. It might have been longer than

1270
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 15: that that he was there. But those are a couple

1271
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 15: of notes. And also the Colts announced last night Josh

1272
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 15: Downs will now be wearing jersey number two like his

1273
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 15: brother at Ohio State, and Sauce Gardner will get number one.

1274
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 15: You think there was a financial opponent to that?

1275
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 17: Yeah, I definitely want to ask ask Josh that when

1276
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 17: I see him later today and just be like, you know, hey,

1277
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 17: you know, I know you're a kind young man.

1278
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 9: You believe in God, but you know.

1279
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 15: You believe in God, you can you can take something.

1280
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 17: You know you can you can take no, I'm just

1281
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 17: saying you can take some of that money, and you know,

1282
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 17: give ten percents to the charge, give a little time offering,

1283
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 17: because this certainly got paid to change the number, because

1284
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 17: number one is like the number of every sports team, right,

1285
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 17: you always want to be number one, And uh yeah,

1286
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 17: I'm excited for that opportunity for Joshy. I think that

1287
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 17: he kind of likes the idea of being the same

1288
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 17: number as his brother. And yeah, yeah.

1289
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 9: Going back to you were talking about Alec Pearson, he

1290
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 9: when they were together at the at the same time

1291
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 9: physically at Cincinnati. I had read a story where Alec

1292
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 9: Pierce only wanted to go against Sauce Gardner because he

1293
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 9: felt like that was the level of competition he wanted

1294
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 9: to raise up to. So it'll be interesting to see those.

1295
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 17: Yeah, I saw that Keifer talk about that. Hereshory mentioned

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Speaker 17: that yesterday on social media.

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Speaker 9: All right, let's take one more phone call here before

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Speaker 9: we start checking down. Dave's been hanging on for a while.

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Speaker 9: I want to make sure he gets on. Dave just

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Speaker 9: dropped off, So Josh is up next at two nine seventy.

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Speaker 9: Josh go ahead.

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Speaker 23: Hey, good morning, gentlemen.

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Speaker 14: Thanks.

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Speaker 23: I want to set off by saying this. I'm reminded

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Speaker 23: of the band pair More this morning and one of

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Speaker 23: their hit songs. For a pessimist, I'm pretty optimistic. But

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Speaker 23: in this case, I am a little bit leery. And

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Speaker 23: why i'm leary is.

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Speaker 13: Ward.

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Speaker 23: I'm sorry, Well, yeah, Ward has a concussion, right, he

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Speaker 23: was on injury reserve. Josh Downis had a concussion this year.

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Speaker 23: Alex Pears has had a concussion this year, right, Well,

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Speaker 23: Saft has had a concussion this year. Right, So that

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Speaker 23: makes a little bit leery. And then I agree with

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Speaker 23: coach Venturi though when I was listening, he said that, hey,

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Speaker 23: first round pigs aren't a guarantee, right, like you're not

1317
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 23: necessarily going to get a guaranteed talent, Which I agree

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Speaker 23: with that, So that makes me feel a little better.

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Speaker 16: But gentlemen, do you.

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Speaker 23: Have any concerns about taking or giving these two first

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Speaker 23: round draft picks and a d Mitchell for a guy

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Speaker 23: who's coming off of a concussion.

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Speaker 17: No, I don't have any issues there, mainly because you

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Speaker 17: look at the concussion history. I'm not sure how many

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Speaker 17: Sauces had his crew, but I'm sure they probably checked

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Speaker 17: all of the medical potential issues there, and he has

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Speaker 17: been out for two weeks now, so he probably has

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Speaker 17: a little more time off given the byeway that the

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Speaker 17: Jets are coming off of than normal when it comes

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Speaker 17: to the concussion recovery. So no, I think that was

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Speaker 17: a big, big issue for this group, something certainly something

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Speaker 17: to keep in mind and note moving forward. But for

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Speaker 17: the most part, I think the Colts were looking at

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Speaker 17: the overall talent and you know, you have to take

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Speaker 17: some risk because it is football, and honestly not being funny,

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Speaker 17: making sure that guys don't run into each other when

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Speaker 17: it comes to pregame warm ups, I think you would

1338
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Speaker 17: avoid some of the stuff that's going on with Shaveria's ward.

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Speaker 9: All right, we'll continue to talk about the Colts throughout

1340
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Speaker 9: the morning here. We've got your Johnson to talk Pacers

1341
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 9: coming up in a few minutes. I'm sure JJ being

1342
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 9: around here for quite a while is going to have

1343
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 9: a thought on the Colts trade as well, But we

1344
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Speaker 9: will check it down right now mark.

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Speaker 18: The morning, checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh

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Speaker 18: seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 9: Just the facts, ma'am. The Coults have made a trade

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Speaker 9: with the New York Jets. They send two first round picks,

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Speaker 9: one in twenty twenty six, one in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 9: and wide receiver ad Mitchell to Gage Green for Sauce Gardener,

1351
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 9: a two time All Pro cornerback coming off a concussion.

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Speaker 9: Your initial thoughts when this went down yesterday, Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 15: My initial when I first heard Sauce Gardner's name to

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Speaker 15: the Colts, I envision a first rounder, maybe like another

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01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 15: middle rounder. So when I saw you know, two first

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Speaker 15: and eighty Mitchell, I thought, oh boy, that is a

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01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 15: little richer than I originally thought. And all chips in.

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Speaker 15: I know it's a it's a phrase that we've whatever

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01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 15: poked on out before, but this is certainly it and

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01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 15: we'll see, you know, how quickly the Colts reap the

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Speaker 15: benefits of it. Certainly goes to a premium position which

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Speaker 15: needed help. And I think if you're a Colts fan,

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Speaker 15: that aspect of it, you have to appreciate.

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Speaker 9: James Boyd. Now the fun begins. Will we see Sauce

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Speaker 9: Gardner in Berlin on Sunday? That's the money question.

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Speaker 17: We have to see if he'll be available to practice today,

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Speaker 17: if he has made it to Indianapolis and made it

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Speaker 17: through all the physicals. And I believe whenever it's a

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Speaker 17: trade involving players as well, everyone has to pass the

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Speaker 17: physical So that means Ady Mitchell has to get to

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Speaker 17: New York and get all his testing done. So maybe

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Speaker 17: Sauce Gardner is out there later today, maybe not, but yeah,

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Speaker 17: I think the practice injury report this week will indicate

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Speaker 17: how healthy he is going into Berlin. And like I said,

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Speaker 17: it will be kind of funny to look back years

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Speaker 17: from now and say, hey, Sauce Gardner made his home

1377
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 17: debut for the Colts, not at Lucas Owos Stadium, but

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Speaker 17: thousands of miles away in Berlin, Germany.

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Speaker 15: Shout out listener John, who has created one of the

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Speaker 15: images of the year. On the Fan and Morning Show,

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Speaker 15: we referenced earlier that Jeff was out in the front

1382
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 15: lawn last night with his sons waving in the sky

1383
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 15: as one ad Mitchell headed off to New York. Mark

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Speaker 15: if you could get maybe some nice music there we go, Jeff,

1385
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 15: how do you like this?

1386
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Speaker 9: Pick? Oh, that's beautiful.

1387
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Speaker 15: Ady Mitchell in a beautiful uniform. The we call that

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Speaker 15: an unidentified flying I was, I was, I.

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Speaker 9: Was crying like that New York Jets fan kid was

1390
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Speaker 9: crying on that video. That was certain. I'll tweet that out.

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Speaker 15: YouTube camera will pick it up. A Markle tweet out

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Speaker 15: one of the excellent artworks we've ever seen here on

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Speaker 15: the fanily, and.

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Speaker 9: That's not that far from being wrong. By the way, wait,

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Speaker 9: what's not that far from longingly look at Ad while

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Speaker 9: he's leaving. I'm good. Jets also made another big deal yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Right after that, they sent Quinn Williams, defensive tackle to

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01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 9: the Cowboys for a first round and second round pick.

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Speaker 9: They are loaded up next year, the Jets are, that's

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Speaker 9: for sure the next two years.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and honestly, with my quarterbacks, I don't love this

1402
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 17: year's class. So more power to the Jets, all right,

1403
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 17: I drafted the quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Coats will play in Berlin against the Atlanta Falcons on

1405
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 9: Sunday nine thirty kicks. Six thirty is when the pregame

1406
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 9: fund starts right early in the morning. Here at ninety

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Speaker 9: three five and one of seven five to the fan,

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 9: you can enjoy sunrise with all of us as we

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01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 9: get ready for that football game. First college football playoff

1410
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 9: rankings officially came out last night. No big surprise, Ohio

1411
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 9: state number one, Indiana number two, Notre Dame sneaks in

1412
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Speaker 9: at number ten. Are they the tenth best team in

1413
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 9: the nation right now?

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Speaker 15: Kevin, Yeah, I think I think they deserve that that ranking. Obviously,

1415
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 15: I'm heavily, heavily biased. It was interesting to see Miami

1416
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 15: all the way down at nineteen. I can definitely hear

1417
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 15: the head to head crew out there that says, wait

1418
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 15: a minute here. I think Notre Dame has proven to

1419
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 15: be the better team over the course of two months,

1420
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Speaker 15: and CJ. Carri's first start is not the end all

1421
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Speaker 15: be all, but I was surprised to see Miami fall

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Speaker 15: all the way to nineteen.

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Speaker 9: All right, And the Pacers will host the Brooklyn Nets

1424
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Speaker 9: later on tonight at the Fieldhouse seven pm tip just

1425
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Speaker 9: after seven o'clock, actually six thirty the airtime here with

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Speaker 9: Mark Boyle Pat Boylan right here in ninety three five

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 9: and one oh seven five the Fan College Basketball last

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01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 9: Night number one rank Perdue wins their season opener against

1429
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 9: Evansville eighty two to fifty one. The final score there.

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Speaker 9: Fletcher Lawyer led the way with thirty points. Valpobete Eastern

1431
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 9: Illinois sixty six to sixty three. Later on tonight, Butler

1432
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 9: will host Southern Indiana up at Hinkle. That one tips

1433
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Speaker 9: off at seven o'clock. If you want to listen to

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Speaker 9: the radio, go to ninety two point seven Fuego to

1435
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 9: listen to Butler Bulldogs tonight because we have the Pacers

1436
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 9: here obviously, and Indiana starts their season at home against

1437
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 9: Alabama A and M. That one can be heard on

1438
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 9: ninety three point one FM, our sister station, WIBC. Anything

1439
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 9: else you guys want to throw in before we get

1440
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 9: to break here? You good, I'm good, all right? Coming

1441
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 9: up at a moment, Jeremiah Johnson right here at ninety

1442
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 9: three five and one oh seven five the fans oh

1443
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 9: as sad as I am to see ad Mitchell cohe.

1444
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 9: I'm excited that the cults are putting themselves in position

1445
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 9: to be true contenders in the AFC and maybe the

1446
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 9: NFL overall. We'll get back to talking about that in

1447
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 9: a minute, both on the text line and the fan

1448
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 9: calling line of two three nine ten seventy, But right

1449
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 9: now we check out the Paylesslockers hotline right now, where

1450
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 9: one Jeremiah Johnson joins us here on Wednesday morning, got

1451
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 9: the Pacers at home to night against the Brooklyn Nets.

1452
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 9: And Jay join o us is a huge sports fan too,

1453
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 9: and you've been around here forever. Your thoughts on the

1454
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 9: Colts making a big swing yesterday, Well.

1455
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Speaker 13: I was a little surprised, I admit, you don't see

1456
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 13: that many NFL trades of that magnitude and to see

1457
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 13: two first round picks, but I think it was worth it,

1458
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 13: and it did bring me back to a day in

1459
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 13: the Colt Super Bowl season. That year, I was the

1460
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 13: producer of the Bill Pollian Show. So my Mondays and

1461
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 13: Tuesdays we're all about getting that show ready for Will

1462
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 13: Hampton to host and Bill Pollian to talk. And I

1463
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 13: remember him walking in as giddy as could be when

1464
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Speaker 13: the Colts traded for Booker McFarlane and that turned out

1465
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 13: to be a pretty good move. So if that can,

1466
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Speaker 13: if this trade can be like that trade, Colts fans

1467
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 13: will be happy.

1468
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Speaker 25: Wow.

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Speaker 15: I gotta start praying for you, knowing that that was

1470
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Speaker 15: one of your jobs in the past producing the Bill

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Speaker 15: Pullian radio show.

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Speaker 25: It was.

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Speaker 15: She dear Lord, who starts to play guard tonight is

1474
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Speaker 15: a Sauce Gardner.

1475
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Speaker 13: Good question. I haven't actually tried to predict that Ben

1476
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 13: Shephard probably I don't know. I mean, he was starting

1477
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 13: for a while, but I did think that with him

1478
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 13: as point guard, it kind of took away, uh, some

1479
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 13: of what he does and he struggled a little bit

1480
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 13: with his shot to start this season. So I don't

1481
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 13: know if they're in a tough situation. And for a

1482
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 13: while there, I did feel like the Pacers were going

1483
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 13: to have a different starting lineup every single game, and

1484
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 13: then they found something that worked, so they had the

1485
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Speaker 13: same lineup for three games and now they'll probably go

1486
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Speaker 13: back to get another different story night. Well they have

1487
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 13: to because Quinton Jackson is obviously out. When when they

1488
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 13: get into the half court. I don't know that you

1489
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 13: notice it as much, but just over the course of

1490
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 13: the game, you really feel the impact offensively by not

1491
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 13: having that true point guard.

1492
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Speaker 9: I want to go back to Monday nights. JJ.

1493
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 17: You know you have been around this team for a

1494
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 17: while now, and you were there for many of the

1495
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Speaker 17: Miles Turner years. What did you think of the reception

1496
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 17: that he got in his first game back in India.

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Speaker 13: Well, I can't say that I was surprised. Me just

1498
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 13: a little disappointed, and I'm not saying I'm disappointed in

1499
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 13: any fans that chose to express themselves the way they did,

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Speaker 13: just disappointed with, you know, the current climate and the

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Speaker 13: way things are right now, and I feel like down

1502
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 13: the road, you know, time will pass, and that run

1503
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 13: specifically of the last couple of seasons and going to

1504
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 13: the NBA Finals and then even bigger picture, what Miles

1505
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 13: Turner did and meant will be celebrated and he will

1506
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 13: be welcomed back. But right now he hasn't done himself

1507
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Speaker 13: any favors, and I'm not I understand his feelings and

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 13: why he's disappointed and why he's upset, But at the

1509
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 13: same time, I think he does have to understand that

1510
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 13: some of the comments, if you do pull them out,

1511
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 13: they are hurtful to the fan base, even though he

1512
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 13: you know, did a pretty good job. I thought on

1513
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 13: on Monday of trying to remind everyone that it wasn't

1514
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 13: meant for the fans. That being said, it kind of

1515
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 13: is what it is now, and I'm glad we can

1516
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 13: we can move on. But I have to admit that

1517
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 13: I didn't I didn't love the entire atmosphere. I didn't

1518
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 13: feel like it was great because ten years is a

1519
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 13: long time, and there were a lot of really good moments,

1520
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 13: and I do want players when they move on from

1521
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 13: the Pacers to feel good about the time that they

1522
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 13: spend in Indiana. So you know, I am glad we

1523
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 13: can move on. But what I will say is Pacers Bucks,

1524
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 13: we've talked about it for two years now about this

1525
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 13: being the rivalry, and it's not going anywhere. I mean

1526
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 13: this and that I love that I really appreciate and

1527
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 13: once that game started, I had no problems with the

1528
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 13: booze and they can continue because right now, this is

1529
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 13: the matchup that you want to watch. This is the

1530
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 13: one you want to get tickets for in December twenty third,

1531
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 13: to me, is the next big, big game you want

1532
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 13: to go see. And it doesn't it's not going to

1533
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 13: matter what the record is and what the injury situation is.

1534
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 13: That's the team you want to be and that's why

1535
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 13: it also heart win that shot winning at the buzzer

1536
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 13: from be honest, but I will say, if you're going

1537
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 13: to have a win in a playoff series or the

1538
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 13: last two playoff series, or a win in the first

1539
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 13: week of November, I think you'll take those last two seasons.

1540
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 13: So I still say advantage Pacers and we'll see what

1541
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 13: happens when these two teams meet again.

1542
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 17: To follow up to that, JJ, one of the players

1543
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 17: that I feel like this season obviously is weighing heavily

1544
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 17: on is Pascal Siakam. This is a guy who has

1545
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 17: won a championship and as you mentioned, was a big

1546
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 17: part of that finals run last year. How have you

1547
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 17: seen him sort of galvanize this group that continues to

1548
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 17: change It seems like every game with him being the

1549
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 17: one constant the third or fourth game.

1550
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 13: I was trying to figure out a way on the

1551
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 13: postgame show to put into words what i'd seen, you know,

1552
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 13: through the first week of Pascal Siaka and before I

1553
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 13: could do it, Rick Carlisle's postgame pres conference was spot

1554
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 13: on and he said, he's just a warrior, and when

1555
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 13: I watch him, he just continues to fight. He goes

1556
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 13: out of the game, in and out of the game

1557
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 13: at different times, and has it during his time with

1558
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 13: the Pacers, sometimes mixing and matching with the second unit rotations.

1559
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 13: But you have to get him breaks, you have to

1560
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 13: protect him from himself. But you can't really operate for

1561
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 13: very long without him on the court. And I just

1562
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 13: can't help but think where this team would be. You know,

1563
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 13: record wise, obviously wouldn't be a lot different because they've

1564
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 13: only won one game, But just going into some of

1565
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 13: these matchups knowing you have Pascal Siakam, I feel like

1566
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 13: you have a chance. And right now he and Aaron Smith,

1567
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 13: you know, those two guys that have really been through

1568
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 13: some of these battles. You rely on them so so heavily.

1569
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 13: And before the game against Milwaukee, I mean you knew

1570
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 13: was going to be asked of him, guard Giannis for

1571
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 13: most of the game, be the primary offensive option. And

1572
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 13: as Rick Carlisle said to me before the game that

1573
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 13: I interviewed, that you know Arizon, the Big Screen and

1574
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 13: Pacers Digital, It's it's almost like the three Football's offense, defense,

1575
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,440
Speaker 13: special teams. Right now, it's Pascal Siakam's offense, defense and leadership.

1576
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 13: I mean, he is that important right now for this team.

1577
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 13: And I was actually having the conversation with my son

1578
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 13: and he said, you know, he'd better make the All

1579
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 13: Star team, and I said, yeah, as long as the

1580
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 13: records decent, or at least up a little bit from

1581
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 13: where it is right now, it's a no brainer. I mean,

1582
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 13: what he is doing is phenomenal, and it shows the

1583
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 13: last couple of seasons when maybe some games you'd look

1584
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 13: at the boxer when in the game was over and

1585
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 13: he'd only have you know, nine or ten field goal attempts.

1586
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 13: He never once complained, but he has shown he is

1587
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 13: capable of much more. And I just hope that he

1588
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 13: can continue to withstand everything physically and even mentally that

1589
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 13: is being asked of him.

1590
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 15: JJ last one for me and again PACER's nets coming

1591
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 15: up tonight. Six a half point five favor the Pacers

1592
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 15: in this one. Do we think Andrew Nemhard is anywhere close? Say,

1593
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 15: I don't know what Rick's updates have been. I feel like,

1594
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 15: you know, he mentioned something that you know Nemmar was

1595
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 15: doing some on court stuff. But do we feel like

1596
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 15: maybe he is I don't know, next up off the

1597
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 15: injury list, But what do you think about his prognosis

1598
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 15: as they head out West?

1599
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 24: Yeah?

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01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 13: Just my observation, that would be the guy that if

1601
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 13: we put up our six players that are heard and

1602
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 13: now you don't know Furfey and Quinton the extent of

1603
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 13: those new injuries, but they been ruled out for tonight.

1604
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 13: Andrew DeMar is the one that has actually done the

1605
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 13: most on court work, and I saw him on the

1606
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 13: road trip in Dallas after the Pacers had practiced well,

1607
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 13: put in a good thirty to forty five minute workout,

1608
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 13: and he was working up a sweat. Some of the

1609
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 13: times before games he's out there shooting. Now, I still

1610
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 13: have seen him at times not lift up the left

1611
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 13: arm and shoot at one handed, but still he's doing

1612
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 13: a lot more than really anyone else, so it would

1613
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 13: make sense that he is the closest. But Rick has

1614
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 13: not been asked about Andrew specifically really since that first week,

1615
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 13: so I'm expecting, you know, at some point in the

1616
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 13: next week, the question will come up practice wise, I

1617
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 13: mean the schedule, and also you don't have enough guys

1618
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 13: even to really hardly play five on five even at practice,

1619
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 13: so there aren't a lot of full practice sessions. But

1620
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 13: a good sign get out the yeah, you know what

1621
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 13: I'm gonna Actually in the suitcase, I've got to pack

1622
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 13: warm clothes and cold clothes for the next week, but

1623
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 13: I might pack high tops as well as I have needed.

1624
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 13: But the three on three games might be what I'd

1625
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 13: be watching if if he's able to participate in some

1626
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 13: of those and sometimes those are with you. You used

1627
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 13: to say with the guys that are not in the rotation,

1628
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 13: it healthy you're in the rotation. So it's also with

1629
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 13: the video staff and the developmental guys. But if he

1630
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 13: gets out there and does some three on three, he'll

1631
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 13: be that much closer. But I do think he's probably

1632
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 13: the one player closest to return on the injury list.

1633
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 9: Right now, I was going to talk to you, buddy.

1634
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 9: We'll catch up with you soon, maybe see you later

1635
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 9: on tonight.

1636
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 13: All right, thanks guys.

1637
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 9: There is a Pacers taken on the Brooklyn Nets tonight

1638
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 9: seven pm airtime six thirty here at ninety three five

1639
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 9: and one O seven to five the fan coming up

1640
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 9: in a moment. More of your feedback, both on the

1641
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 9: text line and the Carlin line. At two three nine

1642
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 9: ten seventy Colts trading two first round draft picks and

1643
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 9: wide receiver ad Mitchell to the New York Jets for

1644
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 9: Sauce Gardner. We'll talk about it next on ninety three five,

1645
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 9: and they seized a fan morning show with JB, JB

1646
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 9: and Jeff.

1647
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 11: Two first round picks being sent to the Jets for

1648
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 11: Sauce Garner.

1649
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 4: Do you think this is a reach for the reach.

1650
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 12: A reach is robbery.

1651
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 27: I mean, my gosh, not only are you getting two

1652
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,919
Speaker 27: first round picks back, you're giving up an enormous salary.

1653
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 27: So the culture giving away two first round picks for

1654
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 27: a corner who has a big salary and hasn't quite

1655
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 27: played up to expectations. This is a desperation moved by

1656
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 27: the Indianapolis Colts. Look, Sauce Gardner best is a really

1657
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 27: good player, but he's not worth two number ones, and

1658
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 27: in no way, shape or formance he played close.

1659
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 4: To that either of the last two seasons. He's a

1660
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 4: good player, he's just not a great player.

1661
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 27: I don't understand this at all for the Colts.

1662
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 9: Look, I get it.

1663
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 20: You're teased.

1664
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 27: You're close to being one of the best teams in

1665
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 27: the AFC right now, the schedule gets tougher. You think

1666
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 27: you can make a run for it. There's desperation in

1667
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 27: that building. They need to make a run for it.

1668
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 27: So I understand it. I just think the Jets fleeced

1669
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 27: them by getting two ones.

1670
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 9: There's the other side of it right there. I know

1671
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 9: most folks around here, I think, are excited about the

1672
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 9: Colts picking up Sauce Gardner and adding some help to

1673
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 9: a defense that needs to just try to keep up

1674
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 9: with the offense. And I think I would guess Kevin

1675
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 9: that part of the attraction to Sauce Gardner is you

1676
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 9: got a team that's averaging thirty two and a half

1677
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 9: points a game on offense. If you just slow the

1678
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 9: other team down and holding to twenty four to twenty five,

1679
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 9: twenty six points, you're gonna win most football games.

1680
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 26: Yeah, that was Pete Prisco by the way of NFL

1681
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 26: and CBS. I had to look at it, Pete Prisco,

1682
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,919
Speaker 26: Pete hates everything always.

1683
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 15: You're looking forward to Zach Rosenblatt joining us here in

1684
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 15: about ten minutes, James colleague over at the Athletic who

1685
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 15: covers the Jets, Because you know, I do think maybe

1686
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 15: not as aggressively as Pete stated it, And there are

1687
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 15: definitely some people out there that feel like whatever the

1688
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 15: Jets flee the Colts, I would say, honestly, of like

1689
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 15: looking at trades, it was one of the more of

1690
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 15: the Colts fleets of the Jets, the Jets fleece the Colts.

1691
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 15: I feel like I saw both of those pretty universal,

1692
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 15: and honestly, it all probably comes down to, like the

1693
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 15: state of your franchise. If you're in a serious rebuild,

1694
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 15: stripping it down and getting one, do they have five

1695
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 15: first round picks in the next two years? Probably makes

1696
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 15: some sense. And if you're the Colts and you know

1697
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 15: you've struggled, I think at the premium positions, that's what

1698
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 15: I'll keep on pointing back to. You know, like, let's

1699
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 15: talk about Houston for a second. I don't think the

1700
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 15: Texans from a one to fifty three roster standpoint, has

1701
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 15: been better than the Colts in recent years. So why

1702
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 15: have they won the division really going away last year

1703
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 15: at least because they're better at the premium positions Stroud,

1704
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 15: Nico Collins, their pass rush and Derek Stingley Junior, and

1705
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 15: the Colts haven't been as good at those spots. Whereas

1706
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 15: now you look at it and you say, okay, Daniel Jones, Okay,

1707
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 15: your Colts pass catchers are the best they've been in

1708
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 15: a while. A pass rush still definitely a question, but

1709
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 15: now at corner you feel like you've got one of

1710
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 15: the best cornerback rooms in the entire league. And if

1711
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 15: you look at Super Bowl teams, whether it's Philly with

1712
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 15: AJ Brown, whether it was the Rams, of Jalen Ramsey

1713
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 15: or even Matthew Stafford. Really, you know, to get to

1714
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 15: that level, usually it takes a swing and sometimes the

1715
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 15: swing is missed, but sometimes it's Mickey Rojas.

1716
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 17: Yeah, oh, great reference there. Game seven is still one

1717
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 17: of the best games I've ever seen him a life.

1718
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 9: He was on last night while my sons were at

1719
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 9: the bowling alley. It was still fun to watch.

1720
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 17: But go ahead and uh, to your point about making

1721
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 17: the move for sauce. Scoring defense has actually been good

1722
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 17: this year. I think the Colts are maybe six or

1723
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 17: seventh in the NFL. They only give up twenty points

1724
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 17: a game, so they're not giving up twenty four and

1725
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 17: twenty five. But to me, it's like the yardage and

1726
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 17: could that be the straw that kind of breaks the

1727
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 17: camel's back in the long run. I believe they're twenty

1728
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 17: fifth yards allowed, twenty seventh and fourth down I'm sorry,

1729
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 17: third down conversion rate, meaning teams are basically operating at

1730
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 17: like a I think the convert When opposing quarterbacks and

1731
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 17: offenses face the Colts, they convert forty five percent of

1732
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 17: their third downs. That's basically one of every two that

1733
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 17: can't happen for a defense that is good. And I

1734
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 17: know JJ brought up the Booger McFarland deal, which I

1735
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 17: hadn't even known about until maybe like last week, so

1736
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 17: I had to go back and look it up. But yeah,

1737
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 17: that year, the Colts were terrible run defense. They get

1738
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 17: Booger in there. Did they go from worse to first?

1739
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 16: No?

1740
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 17: But they were formidable enough to allow that team, which

1741
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 17: was power by their offense, to go on and I

1742
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 17: believe win the Super Bowl that year.

1743
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 9: So this, to me is that move.

1744
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 17: But on steroids, we're going to, you know, go all in,

1745
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 17: not only for just this one year before the future

1746
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 17: as well, bringing in a premium player who is only

1747
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 17: just twenty five and already has two first team All

1748
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 17: Pro nos. I'm gonna have to look up to see

1749
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 17: how many Colts cornerbacks or defensive backs period in the

1750
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 17: franchisees history have earned a first team All Pro No, and.

1751
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 15: James, just to clear up a question that I know

1752
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 15: I got a lot yesterday, continue to get today and

1753
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 15: I'm sure you have as well. I don't look at

1754
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 15: this move and think Javerius Ward is all of a

1755
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 15: sudden not coming back from the concussion. I guess we'll

1756
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 15: wait and get clarity on it, but I am under

1757
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 15: the impression he is coming back at some point this season.

1758
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 15: He is eligible to come off undoer reserve after the

1759
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 15: bye week here, so he has to miss Sunday's game

1760
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 15: with the Falcons. For what it's worth, he's been at

1761
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 15: practice the last couple of times, the cults of practice here,

1762
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 15: So that's my assumption. Are you with that or do

1763
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 15: you view it in a different light?

1764
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,879
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't even think it's necessarily an assumption.

1765
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 17: I was able to, you know, talk to some folks

1766
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 17: over at West fifty six, and the expectation is that

1767
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 17: he will return this year and play for this team

1768
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 17: and get back to playing at a high level right.

1769
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 15: After the bye or you think the thing that's the

1770
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 15: question is like, is it right after the vibe your

1771
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 15: first because even then, yes, I think you would.

1772
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 17: Won him right back after the bye obviously for that

1773
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 17: Kansas City game. But at the same time, it's still

1774
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 17: just week twelve. So if you can get them, let's say,

1775
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 17: rounded back into shape by week fourteen, I mean, you're the.

1776
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 9: Colts, the new look the look Colts.

1777
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 17: Now you're not playing for the record season anyways, You're

1778
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 17: trying to get everybody ready for those last few games,

1779
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 17: hopefully get some rhythm and then get into the postseason.

1780
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 17: So yeah, the expetition that I gathered, or I was

1781
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 17: able to glean, was not that this was made in

1782
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 17: response to Saveria's Ward, but in addition to like, these

1783
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 17: guys will be out there together at some point, and again,

1784
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 17: if they're all able to be healthy, that gives you

1785
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 17: a very potent secondary with Ward, Sauce Gardner, Kennymore the

1786
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 17: second and Jalen Jones, who, by the way, I do

1787
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 17: think you talk about how this team operates without necessarily

1788
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 17: utilizing linebackers of the premium and low and Rimo's defense,

1789
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 17: having that bigger corner who can be a little more

1790
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 17: hands on, has some size and some length. Could Jalen

1791
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 17: Jones be somebody that you look at, you know, it's

1792
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 17: sort of like that what do they call it, uh, Kevin,

1793
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 17: like the robber roll or like the kind of hybrid

1794
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 17: linebacker someone you put in on passing downs when you're like, okay,

1795
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 17: we need somebody who has some size who can cover

1796
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 17: a tight end versus you know, rolling out somebody like

1797
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 17: a typical linebacker and getting burned.

1798
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, It's the Fan Morning Show, reacting to the trade

1799
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 9: the Colts made yesterday to bring in Sauce Gardner. They

1800
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 9: send two first round draft picks and ad Mitchell off

1801
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 9: to the Jets. Let's go to the phone lines now,

1802
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 9: two through nine, ten seventy. Carlos, thanks for hanging on

1803
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 9: for a little bit. You are on the air.

1804
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 28: Go ahead, Hey, you got charge of me?

1805
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 16: Is bellor became a chef.

1806
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 28: Yeah, we brought the sauce to any baby.

1807
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 9: There you go make some baby, all right, Carlos, appreciate

1808
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 9: the phone.

1809
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 28: No no, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, no, no no.

1810
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 28: I got a couple of basically, you know, to refer

1811
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 28: on this trade because you know, uh, throughout the years earlier,

1812
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 28: the early two we had you know, one of the

1813
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 28: fastest scoring offense, and then that hurt our defense. You know,

1814
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 28: we're based on vanilla speed kind of defense. We never

1815
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 28: had a shot down sooner we had a hot hitting

1816
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 28: safety like Mikes Jason Belt back in the days, the

1817
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 28: Bob Sanders, you know, the Martine Jackson, you know, and

1818
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 28: now we have buying them. But these trade makes sense

1819
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 28: and in so many ways. Number one, you know, we

1820
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 28: always be on eight or nine wings, ten wings, nine wins,

1821
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 28: eighty wins. We always picking on that mead size, on

1822
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 28: the mead range of the draft, and I think it

1823
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 28: makes sense. You know, people in the national media, I'm

1824
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 28: making big deal about two pretty our backs, but.

1825
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 15: Carl I appreciate the call. We are up against it.

1826
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 15: I will add this Fontae Davis in twenty fourteen. It

1827
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 15: was a shutdown corner and when the Colts got to

1828
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 15: the AFC title game, I would argue their best player

1829
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 15: during that season specific that run was Vonte Davis. So

1830
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 15: they I think have more just pure death here, certainly

1831
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 15: with this cornerback group. And you know, Sauce could easily

1832
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 15: get back to be in that All Pro guy. But

1833
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 15: Vante was one of the best players in the league

1834
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 15: back in twenty fourteen.

1835
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 9: So I can go a long way.

1836
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 15: And when you look at the whiteouts on the schedule

1837
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 15: the rest of the way, you're gonna face some great ones,

1838
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 15: seemingly weekend in week out.

1839
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 9: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll get the

1840
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 9: Jets side of things. Zach Rosenblat covers the Jets for

1841
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 9: the Athletic He gives us his thoughts as we continue

1842
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 9: on a Wednesday morning, ninety three five one seven.

1843
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: For oh my, oh my lord, the Jets are trading

1844
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 1: sauce Gardener to the Indianapolis Colts.

1845
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner, sauce Gardner, saus Gardner, He's an Indianapolis Colt.

1846
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 9: We were shocked.

1847
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 3: Got to the opinions on sauce Gardener.

1848
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 4: Wow, wowow.

1849
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 5: The Colts looking for a help on the back end

1850
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 5: of that secondary to help lou Ana Roumo, so they

1851
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 5: go all in and make the trade for sauce Gardener

1852
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six first round pick, twenty twenty seven first

1853
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 5: round pick.

1854
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 6: The Colts just determined our time is right now, our

1855
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 6: window is right now. We just opened it up, and

1856
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 6: sauce Gardener is on his way.

1857
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 7: This is not the same old, same old. This is different.

1858
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 8: A team that has aspirations of winning the Super Bowl

1859
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 8: open next year or too, which I think they should.

1860
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 9: The windows wide open.

1861
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 4: It's just a massive, massive swing here by the Colts.

1862
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 10: Collard nextas stuff like this.

1863
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 11: This has the opportunity to be the best secondary in

1864
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 11: football in Indianapolis right now, especially turned around.

1865
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 12: Guys, we are back, baby, we are we are back.

1866
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,839
Speaker 9: Classic, we are backs.

1867
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 20: We are back.

1868
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 14: I want you to put the word up tore. We

1869
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 14: back on, I understand me. We back on.

1870
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 9: What a lot of bus a lot of excitement, a

1871
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 9: lot of eyebrows being raised around the country and around

1872
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 9: the NFL, and the pay close attention to these things.

1873
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 9: We do that here in Indianapolis as the Colts trade

1874
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 9: two first round draft picks and ad Mitchell to the

1875
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 9: Jets yesterday for a two time Pro Bowl cornerback, all

1876
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 9: Pro cornerback, I should say, Sauce Gardner, and to find

1877
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 9: out a little bit more about what it was like

1878
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 9: from the Jet side of things, and a little bit

1879
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 9: more about the latest play of Sauce Gardener when he

1880
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 9: hasn't been out because of a concussion. We bring in

1881
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 9: our next guest, Zach Rosenblad, who covers the team for

1882
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 9: the Athletic and is kind enough to get up early

1883
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 9: and join us on the Fan Morning Show and the

1884
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 9: Payless Lookers Hotline this morning. Good morning, Zach. Kept you

1885
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 9: busy yesterday, didn't we.

1886
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 29: Yeah, they always do.

1887
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 9: It's nothing new around here. How's this going down in

1888
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 9: New York right now? Yeah?

1889
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 29: You know, I think, as a dust has said a

1890
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 29: little bit, I think the general reaction has been positive

1891
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 29: because of the amount of draft capital they got not

1892
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 29: only with this trade but with the Quinn Williams on

1893
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 29: with the Cowboys and just kind of reset the board

1894
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 29: and now they have five first round picks of the

1895
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 29: next two years. So but in the moment, you know,

1896
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 29: and even now still honestly, it was pretty shocking. I

1897
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 29: don't think there's any England that Sauce was available or

1898
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 29: even potentially going to get traded. I mean, he just

1899
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 29: signed a new contract, so like that the moment had happened.

1900
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 29: It was one of those moments where you're looking at

1901
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 29: the tweets and making sure they're not fake.

1902
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's certainly the case at least a mind as

1903
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 17: well as Zach. And again, thanks for joining us on

1904
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 17: the show. So reading through your story this morning, and

1905
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 17: we collabed on a bunch of stuff yesterday, a lot

1906
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 17: of Slack messages after that trade went down. But one

1907
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 17: of the things you were able to report is that

1908
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 17: this was not some last minute approach from the Colts.

1909
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 17: This was something that had been working, They had been

1910
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 17: working toward over a number of weeks. So what can

1911
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 17: you tell us about just the process of first reaching

1912
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 17: out to the Jets about Sauce and then getting it

1913
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 17: over the finished line to finally get him in the

1914
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 17: Colts at uniform.

1915
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 29: Yeah, so, I mean, I think it was more like

1916
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 29: a couple of weeks ago. They just had conversations, like

1917
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 29: all teams, do you know, the cultural calling around in

1918
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 29: the league looking for a corner and they called the

1919
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 29: Jets to ask them about their corner backs. Not Jet Sauce,

1920
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 29: but Sauce was the main part of the conversation. And

1921
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 29: the Jets were like, yeah, we're not really trained him

1922
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 29: unless somebody blows us away with an offer.

1923
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 9: And the Colts We're like okay.

1924
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 29: And then you know, you get back to now this

1925
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 29: week and the Colts call again and they start offering

1926
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 29: a little bit more, and as they keep having more conversations,

1927
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 29: to offer more and more, to the point where darreon Mooji,

1928
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 29: the Jets GM couldn't really say no anymore. And you know,

1929
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 29: they agreed on the draft picks, and then Mouji wanted

1930
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 29: to throw in Adi Mitchell. I think he was really

1931
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 29: high on his potential, so you add him into that,

1932
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 29: and and you know, Muji kind of interestingly said in

1933
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Speaker 29: his press conference yesterday and this was kind of you

1934
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Speaker 29: could kind of see it at the time, but I

1935
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 29: didn't think they would train him right away, but they

1936
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 29: structured in a way that would allow them to trade

1937
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Speaker 29: him if the opportunity arose, essentially, which is pretty crazy

1938
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 29: thing to admit, not crazy, but pretty interesting thing to admit,

1939
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 29: because you know, that's the star player, and that's someone

1940
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 29: who you built around, and you just announced that your

1941
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Speaker 29: cornerstone a few months ago.

1942
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Speaker 15: Zach, thanks for the time this morning. If we had

1943
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 15: this conversation yesterday at nine oh five and I told

1944
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 15: you saus Gardner was about to get traded, you would

1945
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Speaker 15: have thought the compensation would have looked.

1946
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Speaker 29: Like, what, man, that's a good question, multiple first for sure,

1947
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Speaker 29: Like that's what I would have thought, Like that's yeah, yeah,

1948
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Speaker 29: probably yeah. I mean, I but it's hard for me

1949
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Speaker 29: to even answer that because I just like, it wasn't

1950
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Speaker 29: a thing not even considered. So you know, like if

1951
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Speaker 29: you ask me like the same question about Garrett Wilson

1952
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 29: right now, I don't know that i'd have a good answer.

1953
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Speaker 29: Probably two first, three first in a player or something

1954
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 29: like something crazy like that. So you know, it's rare

1955
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 29: that non quarterbacks get traded for multiple. First, it takes

1956
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 29: a really special player. I do think Sauce is maybe

1957
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 29: better than some of the perception that's gotten out about

1958
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 29: him at this point. He is a flawed player, like

1959
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 29: he's not Patrick Sartan, but I think he's been one of,

1960
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 29: if not the top five best corners in the NFL

1961
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 29: over the last five years.

1962
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Speaker 15: So could you delve a little bit deeper into that?

1963
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Speaker 15: And I hate to throw out letter grades, but I

1964
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 15: am a son of two teachers, so I tend to

1965
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 15: kind of do that. You know, maybe early in his

1966
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 15: career he was what a plus type of player and

1967
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 15: maybe I don't know this year it's you know, a

1968
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Speaker 15: minus B plus if you want to get super technical there.

1969
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Speaker 15: And also, could you hit on the how much shadowing

1970
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 15: did he do for you know, a variety of defenses

1971
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 15: he played for?

1972
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 29: Yeah, so I'll answer the second part first. You know,

1973
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 29: with the Robert Solid defense, they had their guys staying

1974
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 29: on their sides, so they had Sauce Gardner on one side,

1975
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 29: do day Read on the other, and he almost never traveled.

1976
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 29: With this new defense, he was traveling a little bit

1977
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 29: more and still wasn't like one hundred percent of the time,

1978
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 29: but he was traveling and he was doing a pretty

1979
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 29: good job of it. And then oh, you asked about

1980
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 29: like the grades, so I'd say, yeah, eight plus the

1981
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 29: first two years, I mean, in all pro, your first

1982
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 29: years in the NFL is pretty crazy. And I think

1983
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 29: in retrospect, Jets fans, in real ess spoiler, they were

1984
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 29: And what that did was it raised the expectations. So

1985
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 29: the last two years, where I'd say he was a

1986
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 29: BB plus, probably they thought that he was bad and

1987
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 29: that was not the case. The reality of Sauces like fans,

1988
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 29: not only Jets fans, but especially Jets fans, focused on

1989
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 29: the things that he doesn't do, which is he doesn't

1990
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 29: really get interceptions and he hasn't historically been a great tackler,

1991
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 29: But they don't focus on this that he does do,

1992
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 29: which is keep the receiver from catching the ball, and

1993
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 29: he does it as well as anybody in the NFL.

1994
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 29: Quarterbacks do not throw it in his direction, which is

1995
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 29: why it's harder for him to get picked a lot

1996
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 29: of times, because you know, I think he think he

1997
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 29: averages a catch against him every twenty snaps, which is

1998
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 29: the best rate in the NFL in terms of like

1999
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 29: how how rarely he gives up the catch, and in

2000
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 29: terms of targets, he's like top ten this year as well.

2001
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,759
Speaker 29: So quarterbacks just don't throw it in his direction.

2002
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 9: And you know, when the.

2003
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 29: Colts get healthy and they have trevarious award it's it's

2004
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 29: going to be very interesting to see how that goes.

2005
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Speaker 9: Zach.

2006
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Speaker 17: I'm sure you haven't been able to catch up with

2007
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 17: Sauce just yet, and I'll probably do it on my

2008
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 17: end here if he's available today in Indianapolis. But do

2009
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 17: you get the sense that he even thought that was

2010
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 17: a possibility on his end, or that he was open

2011
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 17: to that idea. I know he tweeted about, you know,

2012
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 17: all love to New York, but it is quite the

2013
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 17: flip from, you know, a couple months ago being the

2014
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 17: highest paid, richest contract in cornerback history.

2015
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 29: Yeah, you know when I understand he did not see

2016
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 29: it at all. I don't think it was something that

2017
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 29: was really broached to him at all. But I think

2018
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 29: he'll take it in stride. I think he's somebody that

2019
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 29: is highly motivated already anyway. He's somebody who has been

2020
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 29: taking a lot of the losing that he's had to

2021
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 29: deal with pretty bad. And I imagine that he's as

2022
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 29: he sits down and thinks about what's going on in

2023
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 29: Indianapolis and how good they are right now, Like, he

2024
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 29: hasn't been on a team with this kind of record.

2025
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 29: The best the Jets were with him were six and

2026
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 29: three to start the twenty twenty two season, and then

2027
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 29: they won seven games that whole season. So I imagine he's

2028
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,799
Speaker 29: pretty excited for the opportunity to play meeting for football

2029
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 29: at this time of the year.

2030
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 15: A flight plan that is a podcast listened to last

2031
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 15: night was Zach Rosenblatt from The Athletic He joins us here, Zach,

2032
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 15: I thought I heard you, And if I misheard you,

2033
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 15: I don't know, blame it on my dumb brain. But

2034
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 15: did you say at some point this offseason you went

2035
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 15: to Detroit to do a little bit more of a

2036
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 15: future story on Sauce?

2037
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 14: Yeah?

2038
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 29: I sure did it.

2039
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:53,839
Speaker 9: So I went to Detroit.

2040
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 29: The main goal was to do an Aaron GLENNS three,

2041
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 29: which I did, but while I was there, I wanted

2042
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 29: to also dig into Sauce in his background. I went

2043
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 29: to his high schoo I walked to the school with

2044
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 29: the AD. I talked to his coach. I talked to

2045
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 29: you know, one of his old teammates, like I was

2046
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 29: getting ready to do it.

2047
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 9: I focused on.

2048
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 29: Aaron Glenn want to lead end of the season, and my

2049
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 29: plan was to write the Sauce story early in the

2050
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 29: season after a win. And so, as you can imagine,

2051
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 29: the Jets just got the first win a few days

2052
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 29: ago and Sauce wasn't even playing. So I just like

2053
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 29: have not had the opportunity to write it. And then

2054
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 29: you know, as it happens in this job, sometimes you

2055
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 29: put a lot of work into something and then you know,

2056
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 29: events happened that keep you from me able to pursue it.

2057
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 29: But maybe I'll write it down the line if the

2058
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 29: if the Colts go on like a Super Bowl run

2059
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 29: this year.

2060
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,879
Speaker 15: Maybe a snippet of your boots on the ground reporting

2061
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 15: I selfishly, I love to see Sauce Gardner now all

2062
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 15: of a sudden obsessed with the game of golf. But

2063
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 15: I'm sure your boots on the ground led to some

2064
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 15: other things there.

2065
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 29: Yeah, so I'd said the funny thing about him was,

2066
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 29: you know he's a guy that they had him at

2067
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 29: receiver in early in high school and he was like

2068
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 29: buried on the depth chart. They had a cornerback that

2069
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 29: like got injured, and you know, I had desperation. They're like,

2070
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 29: maybe we should just try Sauce there. Throw him out there.

2071
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 29: He like dominates that game and he never looks back.

2072
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 29: And one of his coaches told me that, like before

2073
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 29: that had happened, like he has all these old dms

2074
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 29: on Twitter from Sauce where Sauce is like, coach, I

2075
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 29: think you should play me, like I think I'm pretty good.

2076
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,560
Speaker 29: I think your guys are making mistake.

2077
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 9: Not playing me.

2078
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 29: Like he had the confidence like that. The coach said

2079
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 29: he like he had confidence before he even had the

2080
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 29: skills necessarily, Like he just believed in himself completely from

2081
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 29: the beginning. And and then you know he was he

2082
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 29: was off for the race when he got Cincinnati. I

2083
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 29: don't even think he ever let up a touchdown and

2084
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 29: and yeah, you know he's a guy that you guys

2085
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,719
Speaker 29: are gonna love there in that lot, especially the media

2086
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 29: for the locker room wise, the fans will like him

2087
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 29: until they get mad about him by any interceptions.

2088
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 9: I guess, like Jets fans, I'm just curious before we

2089
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 9: let you go. Zach is as a follower of the

2090
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 9: NFL day in day out and an objective guy. How

2091
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 9: are the Colts viewed right now?

2092
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 29: That's a good question. I you know, I think they

2093
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 29: were kind of a laughing stop going into the season.

2094
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 29: It felt like and you know, you bank on Daniel Jones,

2095
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 29: and but I think the reaction I've heard just you know,

2096
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 29: listening to podcasts about trade and kind of just you know,

2097
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 29: canvassing Twitter, I'd say outside of Indianapolis, I think they're

2098
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 29: getting pretty criticized for this deal because they're what they're doing,

2099
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 29: and it's a statement that they believe in Daniel Jones,

2100
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 29: and you know, it's a risky proposition, as the Giants saw.

2101
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 29: So I think they're getting criticism for that. But the

2102
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 29: Colts believe in what they have. They're you know, what

2103
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 29: are they seven to two? And this field like a

2104
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 29: team that can go on a run. So I don't

2105
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 29: blame them for doing it, especially because I personally am

2106
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 29: pretty high on us.

2107
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 9: Gardner, Well, thanks for stopping by. We again appreciate your

2108
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 9: time and your insights, and we will run into you

2109
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 9: down the road, as they say, have a good one.

2110
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 9: Yeah you two guys, there you go. So it is

2111
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 9: interesting that there are a lot of people and we heard,

2112
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 9: you know, Pete Prisco from CBS and just some of

2113
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 9: the other things that he has heard that people still

2114
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 9: outside of Indianapolis aren't completely sold on. Daniel Jones.

2115
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 17: I'm just thinking about DM and anybody in my life

2116
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 17: and tell them, hey, I'm actually a lot better than

2117
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 17: you think.

2118
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 15: You should give me an opportunity.

2119
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 9: Maybe I'll work on the you know, get't hurt.

2120
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 15: It's like, shouts all the high schools out there.

2121
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 9: You DM the girl. It's like, hey, yeah, I'm actually

2122
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 9: a great guy, Just give me a chance.

2123
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 17: Just a picture young Sauce telling somebody red. Yeah, that's

2124
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 17: pretty funny. But getting back to your point, Yeah, I

2125
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 17: think the Colts have certainly changed public perception, but it

2126
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 17: can all come crashing down if you don't capitalize on

2127
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 17: the movee you just made. And in my mind, I

2128
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 17: feel like you got to get to the Final four,

2129
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 17: which is the AFC Championship game.

2130
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 9: So that's where we're at right now, is the Indianapolis

2131
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 9: Colts certainly have the NFL buzzing at this point in time.

2132
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 9: We'll check on some of the texts and get some

2133
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 9: more phone calls coming up in a few minutes over

2134
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 9: the rest of the show, but before we get into

2135
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 9: the checkdown. I did want to let you guys know.

2136
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 9: You know that Jake Querry and I are all in

2137
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 9: on men's health and getting checked out, and we tell

2138
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 9: you all the time about coming up on December seventh.

2139
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 9: You got to help us out with Franciscan and you

2140
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 9: can go get all kinds of quick checks done on

2141
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 9: yourself to keep yourself up and running. Men's health is

2142
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 9: a big thing for us, a big thing going forward.

2143
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 9: As you know, Jay Query had a heart attack several

2144
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 9: years ago, ended up in the hospital for a couple

2145
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 9: of days. I had a heart attack with some complications

2146
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 9: now almost six years coming up in two weeks ago,

2147
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 9: and was in the hospital for ten days. It's all good. Now,

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Speaker 9: we're both very healthy, been given clean bills of health.

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Speaker 9: And I'm going now as you used to do it

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Speaker 9: twice a year, now just once a year. I'm going

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Speaker 9: to let you guys go. For the second half of

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Speaker 9: this hour, I am going to the cardiologist today for

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Speaker 9: my annual checkup, and I expect good things to be

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Speaker 9: said there. But I just want to take this moment

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Speaker 9: to remind everybody you two guys who have grown to

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01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 9: care about immensely and you too, Mark. Take care of yourselves, man,

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01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 9: don't ignore those doctor's appointments. Go to them, get yourself

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Speaker 9: checked out. Meet us on the seventh, December seventh at

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Speaker 9: Googman House and get these free screenings. Cauz it'll save

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Speaker 9: your life. Man.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I obviously heavily endorse all of that and hope

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Speaker 15: everything goes okay for you today, Jeff. But yeah, I

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Speaker 15: was at the event last year and it was a

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Speaker 15: great time. Obviously I enjoy you know, all of our

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Speaker 15: events that we have and getting to interact with listeners.

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Speaker 15: But the fact that you can, you know, two birds

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01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,719
Speaker 15: with one stone, if you will, with so many different

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Speaker 15: screenings and we'll be watching football and all that, it

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Speaker 15: sounds like a pretty good way to spend a Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 15: So yes, December seventh. More details up on our website.

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Speaker 15: One of seven. Five to the fan. Thank you for

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01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 15: Franciscan Health who is always partnering and doing a great

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01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 15: job and helping us try to live our lives in

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Speaker 15: the healthiest way possible.

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Speaker 9: And also for you, Jason. I know you're a young guy,

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Speaker 9: but start paying attention to this stuff now. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 9: start paying attention to you Now, I was always a

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Speaker 9: fit guy, raced bikes, always eating right, doing all the

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Speaker 9: things I'm supposed to do, and sometimes genetics wins Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I certainly hear you, and I agree there. All right.

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Speaker 9: Having said all that, let's get back to the task

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Speaker 9: at hand, let's check it down.

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Speaker 18: The morning checkdown on ninety sweek five and one oh

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Speaker 18: seven five.

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Speaker 9: Kevin Bowen, you may have heard the Colts had a

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Speaker 9: transaction yesterday. What in the world did they do?

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01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, they brought Chad Muma back to their practice squad,

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Speaker 15: and I have a feeling that's, you know, just some

2189
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Speaker 15: linebacker insurance. So we'll see how the rest of the

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Speaker 15: week plays out for him.

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Speaker 9: In addition to that, they traded two first round draft

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Speaker 9: picks and ad Mitchell to the New York Jets for

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Speaker 9: Sauce Gardner. Everybody's been weighing in on this. Some national

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Speaker 9: people think that the Jets got flee, Some think the

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Speaker 9: Colts got flee. Some still don't believe in Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 9: What does it mean right here right now for the Colts, James.

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Speaker 17: It means that the Colts are trying to go win

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Speaker 17: the Super Bowl this year. That's the short version of it.

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Speaker 17: You believe in your offense, number one offense in the NFL.

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01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 17: You think you have some pieces on defense, you try

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Speaker 17: to upgrade that. I and Chris Baller said that in

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Speaker 17: his statement yesterday, is something about elevating the entire unit.

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Speaker 17: So that's what you're hoping you get with sauce Gardner.

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01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 17: And so he brings us sauce. He brings out a swagger,

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01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 17: certainly a hell of a resume. And I think this is,

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Speaker 17: like I just said, championship or bust.

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Speaker 24: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I also read over the last twelve horses. I've been

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Speaker 9: trying to get to know everything about sauce dating or dated.

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Speaker 9: At one point, ice Spice, how about that?

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Speaker 15: Oh okay, nice sauce is fine for sauce the Spice girls. No,

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Speaker 15: that's different. He's a rapper, all right.

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Speaker 9: We will also tell you that the Colts play Sunday morning,

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Speaker 9: nine thirty in Berlin. You'll be there, James Boyd when

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Speaker 9: they kick off against the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 17: Yep, I take off tomorrow after practice, and so I

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01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 17: believe I go from here to Newark to Belgium and

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Speaker 17: then Belgium to Germany.

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Speaker 15: Just to remind everybody just the lay of the land

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Speaker 15: for the Colts this week. They will practice today and

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Speaker 15: tomorrow normally before boarding their own flight Thursday night to Berlin.

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Speaker 15: So Sauce Gardner missed the Week eight matchup for the

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Speaker 15: Jets with concussion. They had their bye week last week,

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Speaker 15: so it's only two practice for the Colts this week.

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Speaker 15: They'll walk through it Friday over there in Berlin. Plenty

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01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,959
Speaker 15: of time for sast Garner to progress through concussion protocol

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Speaker 15: and I would assume play some role on Sunday. But

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Speaker 15: those are just a couple of the I guess hurdles,

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Speaker 15: if you will, for him to get ready. And the

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Speaker 15: Jets already played overseas this year, so passport, dust it

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Speaker 15: off and ready to go.

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Speaker 9: All right. Meanwhile, when the Coults do get back to

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Speaker 9: practice today, what are they looking forward to seeing? Who

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01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 9: are they? Who are you guys looking forward to see

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01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 9: who may or may not be on the field for

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01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 9: this first practice of the week.

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Speaker 15: Well, they reportedly had no injuries in the lost of Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 15: so if there is a positive from that, no injuries

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Speaker 15: in that game. Now, of course we've seen some guys develop,

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Speaker 15: you know whatever, injuries off of that, so you know

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Speaker 15: that's always a question to keep in mind. So we'll

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Speaker 15: see exactly what it looks like as they get ready

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Speaker 15: for the Falcons. You know one thing about Atlanta, they

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Speaker 15: have a really poor point differential. They're three and five.

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Speaker 15: But unlike some of these other bottom feeders the Colts

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Speaker 15: have played this year, they have some dudes. And as

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Speaker 15: I look back to the Colts season this year, the

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Speaker 15: Colts did a great job against a Tyreek Hill, against

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Speaker 15: a Max Crosby, but Phukan Nakua rerec the game. TJ

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Speaker 15: Watt wrecked the game. So you're gonna face Jon Robinson

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Speaker 15: and Drake London on Sunday. They're stars, they can wreck games.

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Speaker 15: It is vital and Luann Roimo pointed out yesterday tackling

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Speaker 15: will be a premium for the Colts on Sunday. So again, Atlanta,

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01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 15: on paper, the Colts are close to a touchdown favorite

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Speaker 15: for a reason. But there's a little bit more I

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Speaker 15: think potency with the Falcons and some of these other

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Speaker 15: teams the Colts have played.

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Speaker 9: All right, there are several other trades made in the

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Speaker 9: NFL yesterday, Jets being chief among them. Again, they traded

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Speaker 9: their defensive line stud Quentin Williams to the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 9: for a first round pick and a second round pick

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Speaker 9: wide receivers. On the move, the Jacksonville Jaguars picked up

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Speaker 9: Jacoby Myers from the Raiders. Is that going to affect

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Speaker 9: things down the stretch for the Colts as they try

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Speaker 9: and win a division here?

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Speaker 17: I think Jacoby Myers is a pretty good player, but no,

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Speaker 17: I feel like they're in the jarvisy for the division

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Speaker 17: and the only way you lose out on your first

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Speaker 17: division titles in twenty fourteen, it's a fall of cliff,

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Speaker 17: So stay away from the railing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, is the thing though with Jacksonville, they get all

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Speaker 9: those guys healthy. They have a nice little compliment of

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Speaker 9: receivers that the Colts would have to match up against

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01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 9: here down the stretch, So we'll keep an eye on that. Also,

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Speaker 9: Seattle Seahawks improved their wide receiving cores as they pick

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Speaker 9: up Rashisha Heed from the New Orleans Saints and get.

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Speaker 15: Us aside from the Gardener move one, that was a

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01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 15: nice one by the Seahawks.

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Speaker 9: I think, yeah, put somebody alongside Barn the Colts a

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01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 9: few years ago. That dude is fast.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, him on one side, JSN on the other lood.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, look out.

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01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 15: And then when Cooper Cup comes back, man, the Colts

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01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 15: will see them in a little over a month.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so maybe they needed all this defensive secondary. Oh,

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01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 9: you appreciate it all right, So again Berlin, Atlanta, Sunday

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01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 9: nine thirty. Kick coverage starts at six thirty. Here at

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Speaker 9: ninety three five one oh seven five The fan First

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Speaker 9: College Football Playoff rankings. The official ones came out last night.

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Speaker 9: Ohio State number one, Indiana number two, and Notre Dame

2291
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 9: checks in at number ten. If things stayed exactly the same,

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Speaker 9: you'd have first round byes for Ohio State in Indiana

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Speaker 9: along with a couple of other teams, but Notre Dame

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Speaker 9: would be looking at BYU.

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Speaker 15: At this point in time, right, Yeah, that's at b

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01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 15: YU Yeah, seven to ten match up there. If Seeds

2297
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 15: were to hold Indiana's path to win it, it all would

2298
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 15: be BYU, Texas A and m U and Ohio State.

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Speaker 15: So again, we'll have what five six of these over

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Speaker 15: the next month or so. But Indiana in a great

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Speaker 15: position to get a bye, and that means they wouldn't host.

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Speaker 15: Just to kind of clarify that for everybody out there,

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Speaker 15: they will not host unless they drop down to the

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Speaker 15: five seed line, So a bye and a neutral field

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01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 15: site coming up here right around New Year's Catholics versus Cougars, Right,

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Speaker 15: Catholics versus Cougars, Yes, very specific type of cougar though,

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01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 15: right yeah by.

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Speaker 26: Yeah yeah baby, especially if Zach Wilson's around well, b Yu,

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01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 26: I don't know if that's allowed.

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Speaker 15: Mark, Oh, there's there's a way, there's a will, there's

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01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 15: a way. Brandon Davey's learned the hard way with old

2312
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 15: Jim or Furdette back, someone who's that by. You have

2313
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 15: like a national championship basketball team and Brandon Davies decided

2314
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 15: to fornicate, and next thing you know, gone on.

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Speaker 9: I just want to I will tell you this as

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01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 9: someone early in my career spent five years in the

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01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 9: Salt Lake City market covering BYU and Utah. Those rules

2318
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 9: are not always followed to your point, Kevin.

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01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 15: But if they're not followed, ramifications, I don't care who

2320
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 15: you are. No, you imagine an SEC school immediately or later.

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01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 15: You never know what team for fornication you get.

2322
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 9: You get kicked off just for being in.

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01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 15: You might get an increased NIL package for fornication in

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01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 15: the sec.

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Speaker 9: You could get kicked off a BYU just for being

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Speaker 9: in somebody else's a females room after ten o'clock at night.

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Speaker 17: It's clarifying scrabble jokes aside, though, to clarify, we got

2328
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 17: people in the YouTube chat are a little bit confused.

2329
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 17: Jeff is going for a checkup. He is fine, So

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01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 17: if you want to just say that again.

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01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, every year now I go in and have the

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Speaker 9: whole works done. Today is that day? So right, I'm

2333
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 9: all going work. Thank you for checking in. Yeah.

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01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 15: So people are like, what's going on?

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01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 9: You got to go there all the time, all the time.

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01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 26: I got even when if it's just a physical they're like,

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01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 26: so you can leave your pants on, like I'm just assumed.

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01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 15: I'm just checking your blood pressure.

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01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 9: Okay, that will be. I don't do what you need

2340
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 9: to do. The Pacers are playing tonight, Mark, you want

2341
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 9: to talk about that? Sure? All right?

2342
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 3: Can we get a win?

2343
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 15: Can we get a win against the winless Brooklyn Nets?

2344
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 9: Please?

2345
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 15: They're favored by six and a half. They is in

2346
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 15: the Pacer Pacers. Let's go, you guys name three Nets players?

2347
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 9: All right? Yeah, that's it.

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01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 17: We got Cam Thomas, Michael Porter Junior. I think that

2349
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 17: might be it for you.

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Speaker 9: Boy, I didn't even remember that.

2351
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 15: I'm gonna look at that. I was looking at you, man.

2352
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 15: I thought you would lead us to victory. There, I'm

2353
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 15: blanking on the rest of that from Georgia. Nick And

2354
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 15: is still around, good lord, I had forgotten they add

2355
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 15: Porter Jr.

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Speaker 24: There.

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01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 15: So yeah, they've been awful. They've be run out of gym.

2358
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 15: They're actively tanking correct they are Hacers need it badly.

2359
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 15: Terrence Man is there as well.

2360
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 9: Pacers need it more.

2361
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 15: Than Mark needs a stethoscope somewhere in the old y Hey,

2362
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 15: from the YouTube chat, I'm paying out of pocket.

2363
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 9: I want the works from the YouTube chat.

2364
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 17: Jeff hosted twenty College When for a week and now

2365
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 17: has to get his hard chat.

2366
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 9: Well, there are trade offs to be made.

2367
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 15: In life, Chays, that's a great comment.

2368
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 9: Uh seven pm tonight tip off over at the Fieldhouse,

2369
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 9: Brooklyn Pacers six thirty airtime here at ninety three five

2370
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 9: one oh seven five The Fan College Basketball. Last night,

2371
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 9: Purdue beats Evansville in their season opener eighty two to

2372
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 9: fifty one. Fletcher Lawyer had thirty valpo over Eastern Illinois

2373
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,799
Speaker 9: sixty six sixty three tonight, Butler will play at Hinkle Fieldhouse.

2374
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 9: You can listen to it on the radio. I'm ninety

2375
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 9: two point seven Fuego. They'll be taking on Southern Indiana,

2376
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:56,520
Speaker 9: and Indiana opens their season tonight at home against Alabama

2377
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 9: A and M. That's all I got, Mark Dyke. Did

2378
01:49:58,800 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 9: anything else? You want to throw it?

2379
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 15: Nope, go get checked out.

2380
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 9: All right, I'll do that. You may back. He's going

2381
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 9: to get the works. We will. We will talk to it. Yeah,

2382
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 9: have a coupon for that, you know, I don't.

2383
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 26: Know if I want to go to a doctor that

2384
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 26: texts coupons might lend up with a bathtub with ice

2385
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 26: and no kidney.

2386
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 9: Did you watch too many movies? Was that a Josh

2387
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 9: Tumult movie? All right, have yourselves a great one. We'll

2388
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 9: talk to you again tomorrow. We'll we'll talk to you

2389
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 9: guys soon. Have a great one. It's ninety three five

2390
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 9: and one seven five the Fan. The boys return in

2391
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 9: a moment to talk more about the Colts big trade.

2392
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 15: Well, we got reaction for you all day long as

2393
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 15: a cult to make one of their biggest trades in

2394
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 15: franchise history.

2395
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 13: Mark.

2396
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 15: Before we get back into that, how about we take

2397
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 15: fast Fingers Butler, the Screaming Eagles of Southern Indiana coming

2398
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 15: up tonight inside of hinkle Fieldhouse, Finley Bizjack, a couple

2399
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 15: of nice performances in the exhibition games for Butler. We'll

2400
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 15: see if bad Mona can get close to the Insie tournament,

2401
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 15: get in the it's a tournament frankly here coming up

2402
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 15: in the year four So three one seven seventy four

2403
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 15: pack will give away to that match up here tonight.

2404
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 15: Reminder Indiana Alabama A and M eight o'clock. As the

2405
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 15: Darren dea Freese era gets underway, you'll see a team

2406
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 15: that'll shoot a lot more threes and share the basketball

2407
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 15: a lot more. I think that is something you will

2408
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 15: definitely see. Questions defensive league, questions in the front court

2409
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 15: a little bit from a depth standpoint, but you'll certainly

2410
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 15: see a difference and the amount of threes and the

2411
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 15: sharing of the basketball for Darren de Frees and company.

2412
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 15: James Boyd, the thing you like the most about what

2413
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 15: the Colts did yesterday is what.

2414
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 9: The way Sauces contract is structured.

2415
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 15: Perhaps, Okay, so we haven't gotten into this, so go

2416
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,759
Speaker 15: ahead and explain a little bit more.

2417
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm not by any means some cap guru, but

2418
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 17: the way his contract is sort of structure, given the

2419
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:57,600
Speaker 17: bonuses and the different avenues you can take to basically

2420
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 17: pay the guy, he has a very low sound. This year,

2421
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 17: I believe it's less than like a million dollars as

2422
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 17: far as actual base salary. I think the year after that,

2423
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,759
Speaker 17: I want to say it jumps to about ten million.

2424
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 17: Then then it gets expensive. So for the next two

2425
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 17: years you have a very discounted player at a very

2426
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 17: elite position, hopefully playing at an elite level, which allows

2427
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 17: you to still have some flexibility I think moving forward

2428
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 17: to perhaps you know, pay Daniel Jones and go out

2429
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 17: and pay Alec Pearson. So it's not I don't people

2430
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 17: look at the raw number. I think it's like one,

2431
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 17: what is it, one thirty go over the next five

2432
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 17: and a half years, But it's not split up evenly

2433
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 17: over the next five years. It's kind of backloaded, which

2434
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 17: in a sense gives you an opportunity to remain aggressive

2435
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 17: over the next couple of years, which is the best

2436
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 17: way I can kind of describe the way it's contract

2437
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 17: and structure.

2438
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean when you look at it and again

2439
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 15: it's not one thousand percent clear how the contracts and

2440
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 15: or franchise tag will be deployed by the Colts. But

2441
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 15: with adding sauce Gardner, you should retain Daniel Jones. My

2442
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 15: assumption to you should retain Alec Pearce, Braden Smith, Nick Cross,

2443
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 15: a couple other free agents. Those are a little bit

2444
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 15: of a question mark for me. But outside of that,

2445
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 15: this should be your core for twenty twenty six to two,

2446
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 15: Like and and so, I think when you see a

2447
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 15: trade like this, you're kind of like, wait, how's it

2448
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 15: all going to fit? Puzzle place wise? But this should

2449
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 15: be you know, kind of a whatever, two year maybe

2450
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 15: even a three year window. I mean, I'll be curious. Okay,

2451
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 15: what are you know? Does Jonathan Taylor want to contract extension?

2452
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 15: Those sorts of things. I would add that, Uh okay,

2453
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 15: if I went the flip, your biggest question would be

2454
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 15: what is it more of compensation or more of Sauce

2455
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 15: Gardner as the player?

2456
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 9: The player?

2457
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 17: Just getting back to the off roa yeah, because when

2458
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 17: you give up that much for a guy, you can't

2459
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 17: just be good. You have to be elite. You'd be

2460
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 17: one of the best cornerbacks in all football. So are

2461
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 17: you first second team All Pro? I'm not saying this year, Grant,

2462
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 17: you know, changed teams and had the concussion recently, and

2463
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,839
Speaker 17: then at times if you look at his actual numbers.

2464
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 17: So Zach Rosenla, that's point from earlier and shout out

2465
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 17: to my colleague joining the show here about thirty minutes

2466
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 17: ago with Sauce, it's I kind of yeah, Zach, he's

2467
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 17: awesome man, one of the.

2468
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 9: More seasoned reporters.

2469
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 17: And I say that because not only does it cover

2470
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 17: the Jets, but they're always doing something chaotic, So I

2471
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 17: think I'm covering chaos. No, that team that franchises a lot.

2472
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 17: But to Zach's point from earlier, Sauce is still a

2473
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 17: really good cornerback, but if you look at his numbers,

2474
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 17: it's kind of like it's either nothing or everything. He's

2475
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 17: given up about seventeen yards catch this year, but he's

2476
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 17: also when quarterbacks target him, only giving up forty six

2477
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 17: percent completion rate. So it's like he's really good until

2478
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 17: he isn't for that one or two plays. And so

2479
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 17: I also wonder, though, will they change in sceniory of

2480
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 17: changing scheme, having a more talented back end around him,

2481
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 17: will that help you, you know, get back to love

2482
01:54:58,360 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 17: as you were playing at.

2483
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm not a big, big pro football focused guy,

2484
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 15: but I know I think a decent amount of people

2485
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 15: at least know what it is, and you know, point

2486
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 15: to those numbers. I want to say Gardner was ranked

2487
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 15: twenty first among corners at this point of the season. Again,

2488
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 15: I don't look at that as gospel, James. I think

2489
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 15: you just laid it out pretty well. He doesn't get

2490
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 15: targeted very often. Frankly, I think he's already earned the

2491
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 15: reputation from teams that you stay away from him. But

2492
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 15: when he has been targeted at times this season, yes,

2493
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 15: a few more big plays, yeah, I think have been

2494
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 15: allowed by him and as Zach shared with us. In

2495
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 15: the Roberts solid defense, which sauce Gardner was originally drafted

2496
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 15: into and became an All Pro, he primarily stayed on

2497
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 15: one side. They had DJ Reid another corner opposite him

2498
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 15: who was also a pretty good player. But with Aaron

2499
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 15: Glenn coming over this year, there's been a little bit

2500
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 15: more of a shadow role. So you know, obviously we've

2501
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 15: seen Savarious Ward do some of that. Of course, he's

2502
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 15: been out, you know, Jalen Jones actually did some of

2503
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 15: that with DK Metcalf. I mean the Colts cornerback room

2504
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 15: from a depth standpoint, Jalen Jones is your fourth corner.

2505
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 15: I mean that is a dream based off all the

2506
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 15: corners they've had in and out this season.

2507
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 9: So justin Wally was supposed to start this year.

2508
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 15: I mean you you could rookie third round thirty in

2509
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 15: the Colts cornerback room this season. I mean Howard retired

2510
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 15: from the NFL.

2511
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 9: That seems like a lifetime ago. Somewhere.

2512
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 15: Gus Bradley yesterday had to be thinking to himself, Wait,

2513
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 15: Dallas Flowers off of torn Achilles.

2514
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 17: I know my boy was shopping at, you know, the

2515
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 17: thrift store and they were taking Lewenomote and even Nima

2516
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 17: Marcus and you know Von.

2517
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 15: Mayer, such a great way Von mar I feel like

2518
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 15: Colleen Bowen lives there.

2519
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 17: Oh so Colleen Baul must have some money. I was

2520
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 17: in Von Mayr yesterday and I was windows shopping. I

2521
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 17: looked at a suit seven hundred dollars and I.

2522
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 9: Was, well, look at you, James, tell.

2523
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 15: Us more and I get a job at the Athletic.

2524
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 24: No.

2525
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 9: I just was walking through and looked at it. But

2526
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 9: I was looking at some different things.

2527
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 15: What do you got You got a little galla coming

2528
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 15: up in Berlin.

2529
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think I'll I tell my mom whenever I like,

2530
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 17: she always is like, you got to look like something

2531
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 17: for one game a year, I guess.

2532
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 9: And so yeah, I'll be a little sharper Sunday February.

2533
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 15: What oh, so you're going Sunday.

2534
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'll be looking like something that that Berlin per

2535
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 17: Diems coming in handy. Yeah, the Berlin per Diem. You know,

2536
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 17: it was funny.

2537
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 9: I learned the German women right now.

2538
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 17: I was. I want to say, the last time I

2539
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 17: put on a full suit for a game was the

2540
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 17: last overseas game. So yeah, that that'll be a nice

2541
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 17: little your.

2542
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 15: Mediocre wardrobe and they get your elite wardrobe.

2543
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 9: Yeah. It Lorna Boyd.

2544
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 17: She's always on me like, hey, you know, represent the

2545
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 17: family a little bit better when you're out of town.

2546
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 15: I guess.

2547
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 26: So James is going to cover game, He's gonna come

2548
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 26: back with a German wife.

2549
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 9: Hey, you know, I'm I don't discriminate against anybody. There

2550
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 9: you go.

2551
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 15: I was listening to the Jets GM yesterday and you know,

2552
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 15: he was detailing and by the way, does not sound

2553
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 15: like we'll hear from Chris Ballard. I was hoping we would.

2554
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 15: I'd think rightly deal with this magnitude the GM. I'll

2555
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 15: just call him, should talk, but just see if he

2556
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 15: wants to join the airwaves. Just a statement yesterday from him,

2557
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 15: but ESGM did have a press conference and he basically

2558
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 15: mentioned that originally the Colts called about other corners on

2559
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 15: their roster, and the Sauce Gardner thing was never really

2560
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 15: a possibility. And then as the deal kept on getting

2561
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 15: a little sweeter and a little sweeter and a little sweeter,

2562
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 15: his words I think were richer. He couldn't say no,

2563
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 15: and it sounded like the ad Mitchell element to the deal,

2564
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 15: the two first round picks plus Mitchell was probably what

2565
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 15: pushed it over the edge. And again, this to me

2566
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 15: is an unprecedented deal. You know, I know a lot

2567
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 15: of people have pointed to the Eric Dickerson deal. To me,

2568
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 15: that was a more of a use the word relevant earlier, James,

2569
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 15: It's a good way to put it. I was more

2570
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 15: of a Hey, yeah, the Colts exists in the NFL.

2571
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 15: The Indianapolis Colts exists in the NFL. You know, three

2572
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 15: years into the move. This is more of a we're

2573
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 15: giving up some major draft capital to try and win

2574
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 15: it all. I mean, that's the simplest way absolutely to

2575
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 15: put it and to me, for the deal to be

2576
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 15: a win, for us to look back on this deal

2577
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 15: and say that was a great trade. At some point, yes,

2578
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 15: you need Sauce Gardner get back to be an all pro.

2579
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 15: I think your defense needs to become a top five unit.

2580
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 15: I would argue it's one of the most highly invested

2581
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 15: defenses in the entire NFL draft pick and money wise.

2582
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 15: And then lastly, at some point you gotta play for

2583
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 15: it all.

2584
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 17: Absolutely, And if you look at this secondary in particular,

2585
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 17: Chris Beller went out and bought it. This wasn't I'm

2586
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 17: trusting my guys. Like you referenced a few minutes ago,

2587
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 17: Dallas slowers off of torn Achilles. This was no, no, no, no, no.

2588
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 17: I haven't drafted well at that position. I mean, keep

2589
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 17: in mind, we'll talk about the cornerback room. They got

2590
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 17: rid of Juju Brins the second round pick a couple

2591
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 17: of years ago. He's out the door, and you said, okay,

2592
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 17: we tried to do it one way with Justin Wally

2593
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 17: coming in here and he got hurt, Dylan Jones got hurt.

2594
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 17: Xavin Howard terrible experiment, he retires. You know what I'm

2595
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 17: tired of. I'm gonna go shopping. And he had already

2596
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 17: done a little bit of that throughout the offseason by

2597
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 17: binging in cam Bina Jerrus Ward and then now you

2598
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 17: bring Saws Gardner as well. So that is a lot

2599
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 17: of money, millions upon millions that you have now shelled

2600
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:10,720
Speaker 17: out to make your unit, at least your secondary, one

2601
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 17: of the better units in the league. So I love

2602
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 17: the aggressiveness. I love the fact that they're going to

2603
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 17: try to go for it because it does feel like

2604
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 17: again at seven and two, first place in the AFC,

2605
02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 17: first place in obviously the AFC South. It allows you

2606
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 17: to perhaps capitalize on a window that, like I said

2607
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 17: earlier in the show, was boarded up. Was it even

2608
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:35,040
Speaker 17: attached to the house? Was the glass even on? Like

2609
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:37,520
Speaker 17: the better the truck to be put into the house.

2610
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 17: I mean, this has been a remarkable turnaround, not only

2611
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 17: for this franchis over the last few months, but just

2612
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:44,839
Speaker 17: this season. I mean, coming into it, so many doubts,

2613
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 17: so many questions, and now the questions have become louder,

2614
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 17: but bigger, and I think a better to a certain degree,

2615
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 17: because this isn't questions about oh, we're going to be

2616
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 17: a good team.

2617
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 9: It's no how good can you be?

2618
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 15: We will do it one final time. It's Kevin Belly,

2619
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 15: James Boyd, Mark Dydon closing out.

2620
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 18: As you were listening to a fan morning show on

2621
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,640
Speaker 18: ninety three to five and one oh seven.

2622
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 30: The question about that and really, quite honestly, after this

2623
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 30: last week's performance, Look, you can't just jump off the

2624
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 30: bandwagon on Daniel Jones because of how the Pittsburgh game look,

2625
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,240
Speaker 30: there's always a lot of context about interceptions.

2626
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 3: We talked about that.

2627
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 30: They're fine there. Look as far as what this does

2628
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 30: for them defensively with sauce as just what Jeff was

2629
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 30: alluding to was this.

2630
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 3: He gives them a movable chess piece.

2631
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,160
Speaker 30: He's a guy you can go ahead and stick on

2632
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 30: number ones and say, hey, look, I need you to dog.

2633
02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:33,680
Speaker 9: This guy all over the football field.

2634
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:35,800
Speaker 30: Look as far as the penalties and the holdings over

2635
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:37,720
Speaker 30: the past couple of years, one of the things that

2636
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 30: Lou I'm sure and a rum or defensive coordinator will

2637
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,960
Speaker 30: do is back him off a little bit. Let him

2638
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 30: play with more eyes and not have him up on

2639
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,040
Speaker 30: the line of scrimmage doing this all the time. Because

2640
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:47,920
Speaker 30: when you're out there and you're charged with covering the

2641
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 30: team's number one wide receiver and press, you're gonna get

2642
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 30: some holding penalties because it's hand to hand combat, play

2643
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 30: after play after play.

2644
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 3: His skill level.

2645
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 30: The skill level hasn't diminished. They'll give him a little

2646
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 30: bit of a break. The culture set up right now,

2647
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 30: Chris Ballard, Hey, look you go. He went from being

2648
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 30: a guy who many people wanted to run out of Indy.

2649
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 30: So now all of a sudden you're going, Okay, you're

2650
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 30: making some move.

2651
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 15: Lewis Rick earlier today on the move for sauce Gardener again.

2652
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 15: Colts get back to practice here this afternoon and they'll

2653
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 15: practice today tomorrow board the plane to Berlin coming up

2654
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 15: Thursday night. Sauce Gardner was in concussion protocol with the Jets.

2655
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 15: There's no joke with that. He actually was got hurt there,

2656
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:31,839
Speaker 15: didn't play sh It'd say in the week eight matchup.

2657
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 15: They were on a bye last week. I assume we'll

2658
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:38,040
Speaker 15: hear from sauce Gardner later today, but that'll be a

2659
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 15: little bit of the schedule. I know we have a

2660
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 15: couple of callers hanging on here. Mark, you said Joe's

2661
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 15: been with us for a while, Joe, I believe a

2662
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:46,720
Speaker 15: thought on Chris Ballard.

2663
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 9: Good morning, Joe.

2664
02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:50,720
Speaker 25: How are you, big one? I'm good, Thanks Sake McCall

2665
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 25: I forgive me if I didn't hear if you guys

2666
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:56,600
Speaker 25: talked about this or not. But you know, Ballard has

2667
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 25: really changed ways doing things then I'm just curious. Obviously

2668
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 25: the passing of Jim orsay change some of that.

2669
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:04,120
Speaker 24: But you know, my.

2670
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 25: Thoughts were, is it possible that when Jim was, you know,

2671
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:11,360
Speaker 25: when he was in charge, was he really not letting

2672
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 25: Ballard spend the money even though Ballach said he would

2673
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:16,880
Speaker 25: let him. Or is it he's backed into a corner

2674
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,919
Speaker 25: now and he knows that he doesn't have the leadership

2675
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 25: above him. It's going to retain him if he doesn't

2676
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,880
Speaker 25: make these moves and start winning now. Like, just curious

2677
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:26,080
Speaker 25: what your guys thoughts are on that.

2678
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:28,560
Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't think I viewed in that light. James

2679
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 15: and Joe, thank you for the call. I think Ballard

2680
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 15: has always been a more of a frugal approach to

2681
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 15: free agency. I think got. I think Jim or Say

2682
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 15: was content with that, but I don't think that at all.

2683
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 15: And then after eight years of the results being the results,

2684
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,400
Speaker 15: he decided to change his ways a bit when it

2685
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 15: came to that specifically cam Bine them and mooney Ward.

2686
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 15: And then I look at this move, James, and to me,

2687
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 15: this is different than the mooney Ward cam Bine them.

2688
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 15: That was again, your eight years of results haven't led

2689
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 15: to what you want, so what's to do some things differently?

2690
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 15: This to me is an indication of where you are

2691
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 15: in season. Absolutely, you know some of your cores a

2692
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 15: little older, and you say, hey, if this windows cracked

2693
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 15: in the AFC right now, let's make a big time

2694
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:15,120
Speaker 15: move at a premium position to try and do it.

2695
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 15: So I don't view it as the Jim or Say

2696
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:21,880
Speaker 15: whatever cloud, No, not at all. I think this is

2697
02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:25,200
Speaker 15: oh my gosh, we're actually seven and two. Let's do

2698
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 15: something to maximize what we have sort of not fell into.

2699
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:32,920
Speaker 15: But we've earned the fortune of with some of some

2700
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 15: of the priests movies we've already made and the landscape

2701
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 15: of the AFC. The Chiefs, who are the three time

2702
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 15: defending AFC champions are five and four the I believe

2703
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 15: Texans are what three and five right now, and they're

2704
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 15: the two time defending AFC South champion. You look at

2705
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 15: where the Ravens are, They're three and five with Lamar Jackson.

2706
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:54,879
Speaker 15: The Bills, granted, are six and two, and the Patriots

2707
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 15: was seven and two. But like, there is some vulnerability

2708
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 15: there within that NFL landscape in the AFC in particular,

2709
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 15: where I feel like you might have more conviction of

2710
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 15: your team that you've had before and also just more

2711
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 15: doubt about what else.

2712
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 17: Is around you and who can truly contend this year.

2713
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:14,000
Speaker 17: So I like the move. I like the aggressiveness. And

2714
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 17: to give more context too it, we've talked about it

2715
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 17: a lot on this show and the weeks sitting up

2716
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 17: to the trade deadline, But that marks Chris Ballard's second

2717
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 17: in season trade during the first nine years of his tenure,

2718
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:29,440
Speaker 17: and the two trades could not be more different from

2719
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 17: the amount of attention eyes and what it means for

2720
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 17: the actual team. Now in twenty twenty two, your backup

2721
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:37,680
Speaker 17: running back Naim Hein says, I want out. You move him.

2722
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:39,600
Speaker 17: I believe got like a fourth or fifth round pick

2723
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 17: in return. You get Zack Moss, who currently'll be a

2724
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:43,200
Speaker 17: pretty good player for you for about a year and

2725
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 17: a half and then you look at where you are today.

2726
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:50,960
Speaker 17: You just made a move that, like you've talked about Kevin,

2727
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 17: should put you into super Bowl contention.

2728
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 15: Yeah. And one thing I'm fascinated by now moving forward

2729
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 15: is what lou Ana Romo will cook up from a

2730
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:04,879
Speaker 15: past rush standpoint, i e. Blitzing trusting his site exactly,

2731
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 15: which you couldn't really trust given all the injuries and

2732
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:11,760
Speaker 15: things like that. Just the trust of you know, Lewis

2733
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:14,080
Speaker 15: Heritick points out there, of Sauce Gardner, you know shadowing

2734
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 15: guys well, Mooney Ward I think can also do that.

2735
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 15: So now if you just leave those guys frankly on

2736
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 15: each side, that can allow you to do a lot

2737
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 15: of different things coverage wise. And then with your front

2738
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:26,240
Speaker 15: I think you have to get a little bit more

2739
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 15: creative just from sheer bodies and you know blitz Look,

2740
02:06:29,080 --> 02:06:30,960
Speaker 15: because I just don't think you're built to have a

2741
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 15: fore Matt, I don't know. Maybe the four man rush

2742
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 15: will get home a little bit more now if your

2743
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 15: back end's able.

2744
02:06:35,160 --> 02:06:35,640
Speaker 9: To hold up.

2745
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 15: But that I think is a huge element to it all.

2746
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 15: Your biggest question for Sauce Gardner today, if indeed he talks,

2747
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 15: James is what mine is? What's your favorite golf course?

2748
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 17: I think besides the typical how do you get the

2749
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 17: nickname Sauce, which I'm sure someone will ask, and maybe

2750
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 17: that'll even be me, I think it's all about the

2751
02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 17: pressure of the move, and similar to how the Bucks

2752
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 17: made all those weird things happened, waving and stretching Damian

2753
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 17: Litla to bring in Miles Turner, the pressure of okay,

2754
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:10,920
Speaker 17: we did all these things, two first round picks, second

2755
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,200
Speaker 17: round pick a couple of years ago, that was Ady Mitchell.

2756
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 17: We gave that up for you. How do you embrace

2757
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 17: the pressure of knowing? And I think Sauces will be

2758
02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 17: pretty candid from what I've gathered from other people that

2759
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 17: I've covered him about that and not shy away from

2760
02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 17: that and asking him directly.

2761
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:28,160
Speaker 15: They made this move to go win a Super Bowl?

2762
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 17: How much pressure do you put in yourself to deliver

2763
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,040
Speaker 17: in that sense, not saying you're gonna do it by yourself,

2764
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 17: but yeah, man, that's the stakes now, all right?

2765
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 15: Getting you set for tonight again, Pacers on our airwaves.

2766
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 15: That coverage will begin at six thirty they are a

2767
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:44,440
Speaker 15: favorite over the winless Brooklyn nets Fuego ninety two point

2768
02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:47,040
Speaker 15: seven for Butler and Southern Indiana and IU. It's an

2769
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,320
Speaker 15: eight o'clock tip down there in Bloomington as the Darren

2770
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:52,640
Speaker 15: Devreeze Eeric gets underway. IU in Alabama. And then they're

2771
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 15: coach by Dante Jackson, who was at Grambling when Purdue

2772
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 15: played them in the turn. The shout out to my boy,

2773
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 15: Karen Davis native Jeff will be back tomorrow, Kevin Bell

2774
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 15: and James Boyd, Mark Dyton sign it off. We'll talk

2775
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 15: to you then,