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Speaker 1: Casey, there's a political fight brewing, and I'm here for

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Speaker 1: of course you are. You always have a front row seat,

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Speaker 1: don't you. Ah. We love a good old fashioned political brawl,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like we're going to get one out

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Speaker 1: in the fourth Congressional District. That's where I live.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: These are my peeps. Big announcement yesterday, Craig Haggard, he

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Speaker 1: is an Indiana state representative. He has announced he is

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Speaker 1: running for Congress against incumbent Jim Baird in the fourth

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Speaker 1: Congressional district. Had a big, big get together last night

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Speaker 1: and Craig Haggard joins us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Craig, Hello, Hello, good morning.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, the first question I have to anybody

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Speaker 1: who subjects themselves to running for any sort of public office,

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Speaker 1: much less something as large as Congress, why would you

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Speaker 1: want to do that to yourself?

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Speaker 2: Well, A lot of people ask me that I'm joking

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Speaker 2: and say, maybe too many injuries in the Marine Corps

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Speaker 2: question my judgment, But in all seriousness, it's because I

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Speaker 2: would just want to continue to serve. I serve here

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Speaker 2: in Indiana, and I know we have some issues. You

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Speaker 2: guys bring those up and keep us in check and

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Speaker 2: by in Jim. I think Indiana is a really good state.

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Speaker 2: I think our issues, our problems, our serious problems, are

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Speaker 2: and be one of those folks that actually care about

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Speaker 2: the oath I took to the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard's our guest. You know it's Histerday's running for

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Speaker 1: Congress in the fourth Congressional District against Jim Baird. Now,

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Speaker 1: the big rumor was that Jim Baird was setting this

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Speaker 1: thing up for his son, Bo Baird. Obviously he is

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Speaker 1: a state rep as well out in Putnam County. He's

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Speaker 1: got a litany of issues that we've laid out on

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Speaker 1: this program. But now Bo Baird, I saw a post

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Speaker 1: on social media the other day said no, I'm not

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Speaker 1: running for Congress. So it looks like it's you against

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Speaker 1: the old man.

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Speaker 2: Well that's what it looks like. At the end of

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Speaker 2: the day. I said to someone that asked me a

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Speaker 2: while back, who are you running against? And I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I'm running against a Baard. I just

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Speaker 2: don't know which one. And if this is if Jim's running,

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Speaker 2: if the congressman's running, then so be it. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: really change the trajectory of what I'm doing, the work

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Speaker 2: I'm going to put into it. I'm running because I

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Speaker 2: believe I could do a better job, and so at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, what they do or don't

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Speaker 2: do doesn't really change what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering how things went last night. You made the

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Speaker 1: announcement last night at Humble Park. So what was the reception?

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Speaker 2: You know, it was great. I mean it was a

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Speaker 2: wonderful turnout, well over one hundred folks there. I had veterans,

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Speaker 2: I had people from different supporting groups, sheriffs, mayors, council folks, friends, family.

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Speaker 2: It was a great event. It turned out really really well.

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Speaker 1: What do you run on, because obviously Jim Barrett has

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Speaker 1: been a rubber stamp for pretty much just whatever the

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Speaker 1: Republican leadership in the House wants, And what do you

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Speaker 1: run on? Do you go against that? How does that

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Speaker 1: play in a Republican primary? What does a campaign look

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Speaker 1: like for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the big difference and I think you've

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Speaker 2: seen this with my time in the state House, I'm

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Speaker 2: definitely not a rubber stamp. I vote with the caucus,

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Speaker 2: I vote against the caucus. I vote for things that

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Speaker 2: I believe is a best entrance of the constituents and

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Speaker 2: what I believe constitutionally, And I think that's what I

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Speaker 2: would the difference I would take to DC. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be one of the what they call exotics

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Speaker 2: who just screams and wants news time things like that.

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Speaker 2: I want to govern. But if it means good ideas

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Speaker 2: As long as it's a good idea, that's and that's

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Speaker 2: what I want to do. That's I think that's the difference.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean being that rubber stamp. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think a great example of that is you guys

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Speaker 1: in the house were ordered This happens a lot casey

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Speaker 1: people are ordered not to communicate or support me in

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Speaker 1: any shape, form or fashion. And you guys were basically ordered,

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Speaker 1: don't go to that property tax, really, don't speak at it.

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Speaker 1: Don't give those guys any credit. And you and Andrew

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Speaker 1: Ireland and Jad Prescott before he turned down and stabbed

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Speaker 1: us in the back. But at least you and Andrew

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Speaker 1: Ireland were two of three people who know only went

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Speaker 1: to that property tax rally. You ultimately voted against that

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Speaker 1: bad property tax bill, and Craig, I think that says

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Speaker 1: a lot about your willingness to do what's right, not

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Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you it was. It's one

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Speaker 2: of those things where a lot of people think it's

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Speaker 2: tough and I don't. I just I try to do

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Speaker 2: what's right. But at the same time, I don't try

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Speaker 2: to throw it in their face because we still have

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Speaker 2: to govern. Because I'm sure I guarantee I've either done

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Speaker 2: things in the past or i'll do things in the

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Speaker 2: future that you guys will probably give me grief over.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that's you know, and that's fine, that's

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Speaker 2: that's a check in balance, right. I don't get all

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Speaker 2: that's set about that. I mean, I tried, and I guarantee.

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Speaker 2: I think I said it before and I said it

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Speaker 2: last night. The only guarantee I can give you in congresses,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to work my butt off and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: i'll screw something up, but I'm sure I'll learn from

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Speaker 2: it and then admit to those mistakes and try to

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Speaker 2: not you know, do that again and answer to the people.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a background of my military maybe

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Speaker 2: fight or pilot background. When you get in from everything.

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Speaker 2: You debrief, you say what you did wrong. If it's

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Speaker 2: bad enough, you brief the squadron. It's not a punishment.

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Speaker 2: It's because you're self evaluating. Hey, we can't be successful

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Speaker 2: without some failures. And I think that's okay. Do you

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Speaker 2: do you.

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Speaker 1: Really want me as your constituent? I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for that?

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Speaker 1: Jelly?

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Speaker 2: I think I'm stuck with you, right. You know you're

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Speaker 2: my cousin. You're my second cousin at the family pic nick.

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Speaker 2: Now I do want that, because that's fine. I don't

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Speaker 2: mind the tough questions. If I go on something just

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Speaker 2: softball questions or this or that, then you know what

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Speaker 2: does that say about me? And so no beat me up?

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Speaker 2: That's all right, Craig.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to change directions and ask for your input

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Speaker 1: on the redistricting talk. Where are you with that?

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Speaker 2: So you know, I know the vice president came in

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Speaker 2: and from our understanding, they didn't demand, they didn't threaten.

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Speaker 2: They just said, hey, we want you to consider this,

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Speaker 2: and which I appreciate. And I know the leadership talked

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Speaker 2: to us and said, hey, we want you to do

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Speaker 2: a deep vibe. Talked to your fellow legislators, talk to

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Speaker 2: your constituents, and I've reached out to a bunch of

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of folks who reached out to me.

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Speaker 2: We've talked on the phone with each other as far

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Speaker 2: as other House members, and you know, I look at

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Speaker 2: Indiana and I you know, we have seven out of

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Speaker 2: nine seats we voted for Trump the last three times

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Speaker 2: represents Steerwald, who carried the bill that redistrict few years back,

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Speaker 2: did it with such care that I think we were

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Speaker 2: one of the few states that didn't get sued. I

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Speaker 2: think we're really good. And I, you know, I I

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Speaker 2: if I had to guess, if I'm in Vegas, I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking it's probably not going to happen. And so you know,

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Speaker 2: that's that's where we are with that. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: an unknown right now, but we have a short time

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Speaker 2: period for this to happen. But I think I don't

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Speaker 2: think we'll see anything happen.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, Craig, have you heard from anybody that's

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Speaker 1: in your in the either the House or the Senate

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Speaker 1: that's like super fired up about doing this.

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Speaker 2: Now? As a matter of fact, I've heard really nobody

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Speaker 2: who's I think Andrew Ireland put out a post that

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Speaker 2: he's for it, and trust me, I understand. I understand

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Speaker 2: that they have been jerremandering, you know, the other lad

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Speaker 2: has for a while and the hypocrisy of them scream

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Speaker 2: screaming about it is is kind of ridiculous. But we

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Speaker 2: are that, you know. It's one of those things do

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Speaker 2: we are we We're going to go back to the

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Speaker 2: childhood argument, Well they're doing it, we should do it?

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Speaker 2: Or do we want to be a model of what

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Speaker 2: we should do? And that's kind of how that's that's

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Speaker 2: the perspective I look at when I look at the

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Speaker 2: redistricting issue.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we're expecting we need show content, Craig,

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Speaker 1: So we're expecting a very firework oriented primary. We expect

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Speaker 1: all sorts of controversial statements, and we want to be

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Speaker 1: the first place you make all of them. So can

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Speaker 1: we count on you for that?

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Speaker 2: You can count on me. I'm sure it'll be a circus. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 1: Hey, where can people learn more about your race for Congress?

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Speaker 1: If they want to do that?

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Speaker 2: Hagrid for Congress dot Com.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Craig Haggard, Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks guys,