1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. We are still shut down. Everyone wants 3 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: to blame everyone, and I'm told that. 4 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: I all of a sudden have to care because people 5 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: aren't able to feed their kids. I say to you, 6 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: right now, head over to your local food pantry and 7 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: help feed kids. This is about private charity. This isn't 8 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: about public assistance. The more I hear about public assistance, 9 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: the more you clearly understand that this has to come 10 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: to an earth shattering end. This was a story, a 11 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: legit story that aired. 12 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: On local television. 13 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: The first thing I did was Grandma calling a call 14 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: out of and I'm hired to see her road dollars. 15 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 5: My chest went into my throat. 16 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 6: Magiottagun has been a SNAP recipient for more than three decades. 17 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 6: Even with these benefits, she says, she also relies on 18 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 6: food banks to get enough food. 19 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: This is a story out of New Mexico. Did I say, hello, 20 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: Tony Tony Kats today? I forget sometimes this woman has 21 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: been getting food stamps for years. Only a Democrat would 22 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: think that's a successful program. It's not a successful program. 23 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: It's anything but a successful program. That is thirty years, 24 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: three decades long of absolute dependency. We should not be 25 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: looking that and saying, thank goodness, we have these benefits. 26 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: Now. I don't think that we should be taking a 27 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: look at the ending of these benefits because of the 28 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: shutdown and say, well, that's a good pressure point. Not 29 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: at all. 30 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: There are people who really need help. I want to 31 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: give people. I want to give help to people who 32 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: really need help. I do think this thing can be 33 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: handled via private charity, but we can't deny that we 34 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: have a fundamental issue here regarding people who are on 35 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: these programs and are now squeezed by the dependency of 36 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: those programs, the evil that that is. 37 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: And still you cannot get me. 38 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: To make the statement that I should get worked up 39 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: about the shutdown. I think I should help my fellow 40 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: man who actually needs the help where I can, and 41 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: I think we all should. But I absolutely I am not 42 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: going to listen to the political left scream to me, 43 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: look how Republicans are killing children. 44 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: No, Chuck Schumer is killing children, killing babies. Whit what? Oh? 45 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Only the left could talk like that. 46 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Chuck Schumer wants 47 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: babies to starve. Chris van Holland wants babies to starve. 48 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Dick Turbin wants babies to starve. This is the way 49 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: we do it now. Alex Padilla wants babies to starve. 50 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know why they do. They would vote for 51 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: ending the shutdown, they'd vote for the continuing Resolution if 52 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: they didn't want this, but they don't vote for it, 53 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: so they must want it. Is that how we play 54 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: our game, And this is why I refuse to get 55 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: worked up. This is why I refuse to engage. 56 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: In that way. I don't mind if the political right 57 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: hits like that. 58 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: I don't mind if they hit Chuck Schumer directly in 59 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: the mouth with that kind of talk, with that kind 60 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: of rhetoric. I'm old enough to remember when they told 61 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: me that Paul Ryan was gonna push Grandma off a cliff. 62 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: You will learn political left that eventually it all comes back. 63 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: Your biggest argument is that the political right isn't caving 64 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: like they're supposed to. 65 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: That's your biggest argument. That's why you think the leverage 66 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: has been better and better and better and better for you. 67 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: You think the longer this goes on, the better it 68 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: becomes for you. Because you'll get more leverage against the 69 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: political right. And what we have seen from conservatives, I'm 70 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: sorry Republicans, is that there are willing to go along 71 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: with this. Go ahead, keep going, keep going. We're gonna 72 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: keep having our daily press conference with Mike Johnson. We're 73 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: gonna keep pushing. 74 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: Now President Trump with his desire to end the filibuster, 75 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not helping any He's just wrong because 76 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: as a matter of strategy, he's just wrong. 77 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: But this can be solved, and yet it isn't. So 78 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: what do we do first? 79 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't get worked up if someone doesn't get a paycheck. 80 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 81 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: It's not that I want it, it's that I can't 82 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: do anything about it. My senators have voted for the 83 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: continuing Resolution and moving on with my day. I cannot 84 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: help the air traffic controller. I cannot help the member 85 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: of the military or anybody else who isn't getting a paycheck. 86 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: I can give food to my local food pantry, and 87 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: I will. That's already been arranged. That is something we 88 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: all can do because there are people who are absolutely 89 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: going to need the help. And I am not going 90 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: to say to somebody, well, you shouldn't take that government 91 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: job when talking about whether or not they. 92 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: Can feed their kids. That's crazy. 93 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm not interested in living that life, but get pressured 94 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: by the Democratic Party and think that the Republican Party 95 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: should give in because of it. 96 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: Now, no, no, no, no. 97 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: I plan on supporting the position of the Republican Party 98 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: on this one because Chuck Schumer needs to lose because 99 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: the position that he has put America in is something 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: that he should have to deal with the consequences of. 101 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: He did this, and savagely Democrats are going along with them. 102 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Why the heck would you go along with them? 103 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: Now, there's a big, big theory that with the. 104 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: Elections that are coming up tomorrow, this all ends on Wednesday. 105 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: Somehow this is rallying their base and getting people excited. 106 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: For these elections. I'll get into that. I had heard 107 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: the same thing about it. They were keeping this going 108 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: on until the No King's rally, right though, Oh so 109 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: important to have these no kings. There are no kings. 110 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: If Trump was a king, there wouldn't be a shutdown. 111 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: But he's not a king, so there is a shutdown, 112 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: only proving that everybody involved with no Kings is a moron. 113 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: We could say a lot of that. 114 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: We can discuss a lot of that about who within 115 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: our government and who who was engaged in support of 116 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: nonsense is in all ways a dang fool. I think 117 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: we should we should note those people. And right now 118 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: the Democrats are playing the part of the fool. We 119 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: need to continue the subsidies on Obamacare. Well, I guess 120 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: Obamacare doesn't save anybody any money. Obamacare doesn't work because 121 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: you need to subsidize it to get people to want it. 122 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: We can say that about a lot of things. Now 123 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: we can say it about government programs. We can say 124 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: it about farmers. Who can say about a host of things. 125 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: Obamacare was supposed to lower costs, and now you need subsidies. 126 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: But Democrats voted to end the subsidies at the end 127 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. And now I want to paint 128 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: the picture that Republicans are ending the subsidies. No part 129 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: of this is true. And I don't care if Obamacare 130 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: is subsidies or not. I'm the one paying the subsidy. 131 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to pay the subsidy. Tony, You're just 132 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: mean and heartless and children. 133 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no. I don't want 134 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: anything that. 135 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: Furthers us down the road of government run healthcare, because 136 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: government run healthcare doesn't work. You know how I know 137 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: this government can't figure out how to keep the government open. 138 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: What makes anybody think they can run healthcare? My work 139 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: here is done. That took all of seven seconds. I'm 140 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: gonna go back to my cigar. Hold on, this is 141 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: the aging room, Churchill. 142 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: Here, this is a box press Maduro easy easy cigar. 143 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: You can sometimes find them on sale for like. 144 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: Five six dollars a stick. So I'm like, yeah, sure 145 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: for the show, and I'm putting it down all the time. 146 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: Works great. See how easy that is. You tell me 147 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: that these things are important and government needs to take 148 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: hold of this, and then you see how government runs. 149 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: You're like, why would you let government take care of 150 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: your healthcare? 151 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: Anyone who considers government controlling their healthcare hopes to die. 152 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: How is that a false statement? It's just factual as 153 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: can be. 154 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: Let Bertie Sanders try and explain it again, why we 155 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: need government run healthcare. 156 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: He can't, he won't. 157 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: He'll just talk about millionaires and billionaires like an absolute freak. 158 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: Every answer is million and billionaires. 159 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: No, no way, It was millionaires until he became a millionaire 160 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,119 Speaker 2: and now it's just billionaires. Gosh, that's convenient. How convenient 161 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: is it of this judge? If you check out the 162 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: show sheet over at Tony Katz dot com, this federal 163 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: judge that says, hey, you have to fund SNAP benefits, 164 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: right Snap the food stamps. A federal judge in Rhode 165 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: Island made this decision ordering the Trump administration to continue 166 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: providing Snap food benefits. How does that work? The money's 167 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: not there, Well, you have to get the money. The 168 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: executive branch has nothing to do with spending. They can't 169 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: authorize funds. The funding comes from Congress. How in the 170 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: world does this happen? How in the world do you 171 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: force them to fund the program or spend them money? 172 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: And what makes a judge think they can do this? 173 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: Because if indeed you can order Trump to fund Snap benefits, 174 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: why can't you just order Democrats to go over the 175 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: continuing Resolution? I mean, if we're living in just the 176 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: world's a pure fantasy. 177 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: There's an argument that there is. 178 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: A contingency fund. The issue is is that the program 179 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: costs the United States taxpayer nine billion dollars a month, 180 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: and the contingency fund only has five billion dollars in it. 181 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: You can't partially fund these things, so therefore we can't 182 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: fund it. And now what Trump is saying is, hey, 183 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: would you go back to the courts, He's telling his 184 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: lawyers and how are we supposed to implement this? 185 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: Again, proving he's not a king going to the courts 186 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: and saying, how in the world can you expect us 187 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: to do this? 188 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: Irrationality on all sides, every side, everywhere, all the time. 189 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: And this same government thinks they can run healthcare. Fantastic. No, 190 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: here we are, day thirty four of a shutdown, and 191 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: I continue to remind you not to get worked up. 192 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: But I say that, and by the way, I would 193 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: remind you to keep supporting the political right in this 194 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: support the Republicans. 195 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: This is on Chuck Schumer. Just vote for the. 196 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: Continuing resolution because subsidies for Obamacare is a non starter, 197 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: which I'm going to lose that fight, by the way, 198 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: because I guarantee you Trump is absolutely going. 199 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: To do it. He's going to do it. 200 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: But when it comes to supporting our neighbors who, because 201 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: of this shutdown or any other issue, are having a 202 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: hard time and need to feed their kids, your local 203 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: food pantry. Guys, Charity is a good thing, and if 204 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 2: you are financially able, I encourage you to give Today. 205 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. So a 206 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: couple of people have asked, what's your take on Harvard 207 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: And if you didn't hear, there was a weekend explosion 208 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 3: at Harvard University, Harvard Medical School, suspects on the run. 209 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 3: As I have the story, the last I have from 210 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: Fox News happened in the early morning hours on Saturday. 211 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: Is what happened. 212 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: There two mass suspects seen fleeing from the building. So 213 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: I don't have an answer yet as to who or why. 214 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: I have photos of suspects. I have thoughts on what 215 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: I think, but I don't have enough. 216 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: Data yet. 217 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: Now you might say to me, oh, Tony, you could 218 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: say it. No, No, I think other people might say 219 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: things me. I don't ever mind waiting when it comes 220 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: to what took place in Dearborn, Oh don't worry. 221 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: I got things to say, the stabbing in the United Kingdom. 222 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: I've got things to say, and of course President Trump's 223 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: standing up for Christians. 224 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: I have real things to say. I will get to 225 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: that and keep it right here. But No, I wanted 226 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: to talk about the elections that are happening tomorrow. 227 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of things going on. First, if you 228 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: take a look at the two big races for governor, 229 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: New Jersey gubernatorial race Virginia's governor race, and in those 230 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: races in Virginia, it drives me nuts that span Burger, 231 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: this Democrat is lead. Republican wins some earl sears the 232 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: current lieutenant governor by twelve points, very. 233 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: Very disheartening. 234 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: It is disheartening that the Democrat for Attorney General, Jay Jones, 235 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: who sat in text messages he wants to kill Republicans 236 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: and their kids, is still showing a two point lead 237 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: against the incumbent. 238 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: That's the insanity of the position of voting for a 239 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: guy who said out loud text message, but still I 240 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: want to kill the Republican leader of the House and 241 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: kill his children. 242 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: No one, no Democrat, feels the need to say nope, 243 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: that's wrong. Spanberger won't denounce. No, they don't denounce, and 244 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: they get rewarded. And there's a lesson in this for Republicans. 245 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: Do not ever allow them to dictate how we do 246 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: anything now us policing our own If you will like 247 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: these morons with the stupid text chain about Hitler this 248 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: and racism that. 249 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those guys are gonna be out of jobs. 250 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: I didn't say we shouldn't have a standard at all. 251 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: I just won't listen to a standard from those losers 252 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: who are okay with voting for somebody who wants to 253 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: kill kids. The New Jersey governor's race shows the Democrat 254 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: Mickey Cheryl. 255 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: I think it's Mickey might be nunce Mikey. 256 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: Edging out the Republican by basically less than a point, 257 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: But it's a two point margin of error in the 258 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Atlas Intel poll. So who knows how this race is 259 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: going to turn out. Don't have an answer there. And 260 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: all of this. 261 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: In the backdrop of the New York mayor's race. They're 262 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 3: going to elect this communist, Ma'm donnie, They're going to 263 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: elect this garbage and guys like Hakim Jeffries still will 264 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: not endorse. And it's like the future of the Democratic Party. 265 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 7: No, I think the future of the Democratic Party is 266 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 7: going to fall as far as we're concerned, relative to 267 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 7: the House Democratic Caucus and members who are doing a 268 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 7: great work all across the country. As it relates to 269 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 7: our need to both take back control of the House, 270 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 7: but in doing so, make sure that we're communicating to 271 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 7: the American people like we understand you deserve better than 272 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 7: the country that you have received. Donald Trump and Republicans 273 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 7: have gone way too far and have failed to deliver 274 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 7: anything meaningful for the American. 275 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: People except a safe border some peace deals. 276 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, aside from that, you're right, Akiem Jeffries and Donnie 277 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: is not the future. Well, that's going to be shocking 278 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: to the political left. He says absolutely that Commy is 279 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: the future. And I think that's why the reporting that 280 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi may not seek reelection is absolutely accurate. But 281 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: we discussed this a couple of weeks ago. She's not 282 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: seeking reelection. She's done. She isn't speaker. 283 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: Anymore, She isn't going to work her way back to leadership. 284 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: She is older. 285 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: It's over. The Nancy Pelosi days will soon be done. 286 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: The problem for the Democratic Party is they have nobody who. 287 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: Can rule like that. 288 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: They don't have an iron fist anymore. They don't have 289 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: anybody who can contain them, which means they move further 290 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: and further to the left. 291 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: Now you say to me, that's helpful to the right. 292 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: And maybe that will be even more helpful when you see. 293 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: That Donald Trump is no longer president and they can't 294 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: use Trump pat for everything. Ah oh oh, that's funny. 295 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: Of course they're gonna use Trump paint for everything. What 296 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: you are witnessing now is how the Democratic Party will 297 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: operate forever. Whomever the Republican is worse than Hitler, worse 298 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: than Trump. 299 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: That's it. 300 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: That's the modus operandi. As for these races, New York mayor, 301 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: New Jersey governor, Virginia governor. Tomorrow's election day, we will 302 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: watch and see there. 303 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: Will be bourbon. This is Tony Kats today. 304 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 6: Well, what is leverage. Their leverage is to hurt the 305 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 6: American people. 306 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 8: Right. 307 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 6: They're willing to hurt air travelers, whether they're going to 308 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 6: a funeral, they're going to see family members. Pretty soon, 309 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 6: we're going to have kids coming home from college for 310 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 6: Thanksgiving break. They're willing to endanger poor people who can't 311 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 6: get food stamps. They're willing to risk subsidies in regard 312 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 6: to health insurance. 313 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: They don't care who they hurt. They care about power. 314 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 6: By the way, we had an election a little less 315 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 6: than a year ago and Donald Trump crushed it. He 316 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 6: won the popular vote, he won the seven swing states. 317 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 6: Democrats lost, and so if you want to pass legislation, 318 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 6: you can introduce it, you can debate it. But government 319 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: shutdowns trying to garner a leverage is not. 320 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: The way that you do it. 321 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 6: Debate it, vote on it, and then come back and 322 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 6: try to win elections. 323 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: But they lost. 324 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 6: Donald Trump won, and to now say that you are 325 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 6: going to hurt the American people, so Donald Trump has 326 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 6: to talk to you. 327 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 3: That's not the way you do business. It is the 328 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: way they do business. 329 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: And I do remind people Sean Duffy, that's the Transportation secretary. 330 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: I do remind people that Barack Obama said I won, Okay, 331 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: you won, so now. 332 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: Trump won. That's the way it is. And this is 333 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: why when. 334 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: It comes to the shutdown, I don't think Republicans can relent. 335 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: They should not relent. They are not the ones who 336 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: have to relent. 337 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: But air traffic controllers are not getting paid, and your 338 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: flight is gonna get delayed. 339 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: Tony Kats Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. 340 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 3: Find everything at tonykats dot com, live streaming, YouTube dot com, 341 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: Slash Tony kats. 342 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: So just look for me and then subscribe. Do that 343 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: immediately and join the live stream. Air traffic controllers not 344 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: getting paid. Flight delays are happening, This is going to continue. 345 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: What no one has been able to answer is, let's 346 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: say Wednesday comes, two days from as I speak to 347 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: you right now, Wednesday comes and boom, Democrats declare victory. 348 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: Don't ask why, right? What do they gonna do? 349 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: They just say, well, Trump beat us on this one. 350 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: We care more about American families than Donald Trump do, 351 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: and we'll try and trust him this time while we 352 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: pressure him to giving more Obamacare subsidies, which Trump is 353 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: going to do anyway, and the Democrats take credit for 354 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: that's going to be a thing. 355 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 3: I'll call my shot on that. 356 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: And then they vote finally to open the government. So 357 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: let's say that's Wednesday. How soon before people get paid? 358 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't just kick right in, right, doesn't. 359 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that? 360 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: So will be another three, four days, five days, six 361 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: days before they get paid the snap benefits? 362 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: Does it? 363 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: How does that work? How does that How quickly does 364 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: that kick in? I'm just curious to what that response 365 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: time is because all of this gearing up to Thanksgiving. 366 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: Travel is bad stuff. My mother's going to get on 367 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: a plane. Those who who may remember her Diane. So 368 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: Diane used to be a quasi regular guest on the show, right, 369 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: and then my mother got sick. 370 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, that was not gonna happen. 371 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: My mother is much better now. But there's just. 372 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 6: In it. 373 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 2: Nothing ain't easy. Wait, No, ain't nothing easy. That's all 374 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: there is to it. My mother's good and she's happy, 375 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: and life is good and all that jazz. And so 376 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: she wants to come up for Thanksgiving. I'm like, come 377 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: up for Thanksgiving? What are the odds that that flight 378 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: is going to work out? 379 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: Okay? My mother, your mother, your grandmother, you're this, you're that, 380 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: your uncle, your cousin, your brother. What flights do we 381 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: think are going to work out? Okay? 382 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: So, when the shutdown affects the government worker, it's a thing. 383 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: When the government shutdown affects people being able to feed 384 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: their kids, it's a real thing. When the government shutdown 385 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: affects you, it's a problem. That's I mean, I think 386 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: I've gone through the proper stages of this. So I 387 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: don't know, I do not know what the lack of 388 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: funding has meant. On Friday, eighty percent just about I 389 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: should say eighty percent of air traffic controllers were absent 390 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: from the New York area facilities, which means all of 391 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: those connections in those hubs not working. You had Austin 392 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: Bergsham International Airport under a groundstop for flights coming from 393 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: Dallas Fort Worth due to staffing shortages. Those delays were 394 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: over an hour. And if you have. 395 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: Any understanding of travel, like if you've ever been on 396 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: a plane before, one delay begets another delay, begets another delay, 397 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: and down the line and it gets worse as the 398 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: day continues, Newark Airport being limited to as few as 399 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: twenty planes per hour. This was as of. 400 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Sunday, the average delay for arriving flights over three and 401 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: a half hours. I am just curious as to how 402 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: soon these things will kick back in and what happens. 403 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: Don't we have to redo this for November twenty first? 404 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: Isn't there another government shut down scheduled for November twenty first, 405 00:25:54,200 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: which is to say, another continuing resolution? That was the 406 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: date I thought we were looking at. By the way 407 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: being reported from Federal News Network, this coming out before 408 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: the weekend, agency is telling more than seven hundred thousand 409 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: federal employees. 410 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: That their time away will be extended another thirty days. Commerce, Justice, Homeland, NASA, GSA, 411 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: which is the General Services Administration. 412 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: They've sent out emails saying that you are on furlough 413 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: until November twenty ninth, the day after Thanksgiving. 414 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I. 415 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: Don't have the heart to sell my mother that there's 416 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: no way that the plane's gonna work. No way the 417 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: plane might work, there's just gonna be no one to 418 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: actually direct it. 419 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: Oh is she going to be angry? Oh? This is 420 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: very personal. 421 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: That is not going to be a fun conversation at all. 422 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: There's a part two conversation. This is about how people 423 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: feel about the economy. 424 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: News Nation had this story and the story was about 425 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: how Trump's approval. 426 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: Rating is down. Why is it down? 427 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: Because people feel they're worse off financially now than they 428 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: were in twenty twenty four. This was a poll from 429 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: News Nation and the Decision Desk Headquarters. Eleven hundred and 430 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: fifty nine people polled, let's walk through it if a 431 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: little bit. Thirty nine percent of the people eleven hundred 432 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: and fifty nine people were polled, thirty nine percent said 433 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: they felt less economically secure a year over year was 434 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: twenty six percent said they felt better off. 435 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 3: Thirty four percent said neither better nor worse off. Now 436 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the full poll results here of who 437 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 3: it is that they surveyed. It was Americans. I don't 438 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: know if they asked about political affiliation. The margin of 439 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: error is two point nine percent. 440 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: So if you know me from elections general elections, I 441 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: really dismiss polls that don't that have a higher than 442 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: a three percent margin of error, MOE, I dismiss polls 443 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: that don't have at least a thousand people in the poll. 444 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: I move those two things to the side, And I. 445 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: Don't you know, the conversation registered voters are likely voters 446 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: always comes into play. So if you take a look 447 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 2: at the strongly approved and strongly dis approve of President Trump, 448 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: you find that that number is basically fifty to forty 449 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: nine approved to disapprove, it's fifty to fifty. 450 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: Okay, do you approve. 451 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: Of the way that Trump administration is handling immigration policy? Well, 452 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: this has forty seven percent approved, fifty two percent disapprove, 453 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: fifty two percent disapprove. No, they're not talking about immigration policy. 454 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: They just don't like the fact that immigration policy involves 455 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: returning people to their country of origin. 456 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: They claim they want a safer border, but they don't 457 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: actually want to do the work that gets you a 458 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: safer border. There is a really interesting parallel to the 459 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: story in the conversation of redistricting. But on the economics, when. 460 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: You take a look at this, thirty nine percent feel 461 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: less economically secure, but twenty six percent and thirty four percent, 462 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: twenty ver six percent feel better, thirty four percent no difference, 463 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: So you still have sixty percent saying that all is well. 464 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: I believe that to be the case. I also believe 465 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: that if you. 466 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: Don't recognize that taris have had an effect and the 467 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: economy isn't dreaming, that's silly. 468 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: The economy isn't dreamy, it's okay to say I would. 469 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: Still argue that people feel better off with Trump in 470 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: the White House because it creates more opportunity. Then it's 471 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: certainly anything with Biden and that full on malaise. Same 472 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: thing is true regarding Kamala Harris. But I'm not surprised 473 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: particularly by this. 474 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: I don't think Americans are just dancing all the way 475 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: to the bank. 476 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: What's interesting is that the president's approval ratings forty one percent, 477 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: Republicans approval rating with likely voters is forty seven percent. 478 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: How weird because this is exactly the opposite of what 479 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: took place in the election in twenty twenty four where 480 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: Trump and you heard Sean Duffy talk about it. Trump 481 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: won all these swing states, that's correct, but the Senate 482 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: candidates didn't. Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, all swing states. 483 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: The Republican candidate for Senate lost in all those. 484 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: States because the Trump brand was bigger than the Republican brand. 485 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: Now we're seeing a reverse. Interesting. Interesting. 486 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: I think the president should be aware that people economically 487 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: are still not feeling everything is great. Gas prices are down, 488 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: no doubt, Egg prices are down, no doubt. Other prices 489 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 2: are still too danghaigh, and there is still what it 490 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: is we're spending because of terrors. It's hard to get 491 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 2: President Trump to get a conversation going about, hey, I 492 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: know there's concern. Here's what we're doing. 493 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: When the tariff is the thing he loves the most, 494 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: and he thinks the tariff is responsible for all the 495 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: good things and all the good investment. If it was 496 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: a tactic. I'd agree with that, but does this poll 497 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: Is this an indicator of well democrats are something to 498 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: capitalize on. They could, but they're Democrats. 499 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: They're going to overplay their hand and they're going to 500 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: lose the position because they can't just be normal. They 501 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: want to go down this road. They are desperate to 502 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: go down this road of Trump promised him leak nothing 503 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: is better. But it's not true that nothing is better. 504 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: Many things are better. 505 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: But you'll see Democrats goloam on to this, and you 506 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: will see them going in directions so nutty that you 507 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: won't believe it because. 508 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: That's their history. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Kats. 509 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: Today. 510 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: I was discussing on my Cigar and Bourbon Show, Eat 511 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: Drink Smoke that I have never once suggested to the family, Hey, 512 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: let's go out for lunch. 513 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: Let's go get sandwiches in my life. I have never 514 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: once suggested that as a meal. It's not that I haven't. 515 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: Grabbed a sandwich in my life, it's just I've never 516 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: suggested it. Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, guys, good to 517 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: be with you. What is happening today is National Sandwich Day. 518 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: The problem is they've got a day for everything, but there. 519 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: Are deals going on. 520 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: RB's has deals, but you got to be a part 521 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: of their rewards members. Fire's House Subs is giving way 522 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: free medium subs. You order fifteen dollars or more via 523 00:33:54,520 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: Firehouse Subs app on this day to redeem it. Mikes, 524 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: Jimmy Johns, McAllister's Mister Pickles sandwich shops. That's a West 525 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: Coast thing. We don't need to pay attention to them. 526 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's a lot of deals on. 527 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: What was it National Sandwich Day? Thank you Tony and 528 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: learn how to talk man. It's just Radio Subway offering 529 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 2: dollar footlungs and you also have to be a rewards member. 530 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 3: Everything is a way to get you to have another app. 531 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: How many apps can one person have? How many and 532 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 3: how many are you willing to join to get the deal? 533 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: And how many people then delete them? So what is 534 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: the value of the app on the phone for the 535 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: company If no one's using the app? That's like that? 536 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: Does it? Is there some kind of maybe there's a number. 537 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: If you have x number of users of the app, 538 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: you're guaranteed to have this kind of return from it. 539 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 2: Because just naturally meanwhile preferred sandwich turkey club uh side 540 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: of colslaw. If I'm doing a sandwich, I want to 541 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: be Jersey diner style. I have spoken. I have nothing 542 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: else to say. 543 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: Why. From dall Hertbiner and. 544 00:35:40,160 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: The Crossroads of America, it's Tony Katz today President Trump 545 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: threatening to go into Nigeria. 546 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: He wrote a post did the President putting it on 547 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: truth Social If the Nigerian government continues to allow the 548 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all aid 549 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: and assistance to Nigeria, and they very well go into 550 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: that now disgraced country, guns ablazing to completely wipe out 551 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities. I 552 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 2: am hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare. 553 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 3: For possible action. If we attack, you'll be. 554 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: Fast, vicious, and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs attacked 555 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: our cherished Christians. Warning the Nigerian government better move fast, 556 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, I appreciate noting what has 557 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 2: had happening to Christians in Nigeria, just like we should 558 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: note what is happening to Christians around the globe. And 559 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: I think that Bill Maher deserves a tip of the 560 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 2: cap because he did bring this up on the show, 561 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: and he's got a larger platform a few weeks ago, 562 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: and I think it has become a larger conversation because 563 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: of that. He was talking to Van Jones at the time. 564 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: The issue here is not Nigerians. The issue here is 565 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: is Lomists. 566 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 3: No society around the globe can exist in some level 567 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 3: of coexistence with Islamists, with people who are believers in Sharia, 568 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: with people who have. 569 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: This religious fundamentalism. Cannot be done. 570 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: Christians cannot, Jews cannot, Muslims cannot. 571 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: It can't be done. And it seems to be very 572 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: hard for some people to say so. 573 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: I am thankful. I am not one of those people. 574 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 2: No society can thrive when that society introduces Islamists to. 575 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: It can't be done. 576 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: Christians being killed with reckless abandon in the first two 577 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: hundred days plus of twenty twenty five. More than seven 578 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: thousand Christians have been killed since two thousand and nine. 579 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: Boko Haram, these Islamists. 580 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: This was the group where Michelle Obama thought she was 581 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 2: doing something by holding up a sign that says, bring 582 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: our girls back. Remember when they got kidnapped, knows bocoharam 583 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: and people didn't know what boc Raam was and you 584 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 2: thought some stupid photo from the former first Lady, which 585 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 2: speaking of the former first Lady, could you please stop 586 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: talking about how somehow life hasn't been fair to you 587 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 2: and somehow you were under the gun and somehow you're 588 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: still mis Could you stop it? Stop it already? The 589 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 2: pity party is over. You don't think America was good 590 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: to you with eight years in the White House and 591 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: a Netflix steal. 592 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what you were expecting, but I don't 593 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 3: want to hear anymore. I was never a fan of 594 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: your husband. He's an awful guy. 595 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: I always thought you got the like like you got 596 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 2: hit unacceptably. You didn't deserve the hit your husband got. 597 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: I always thought that was weird, but now you've just 598 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: proven that you want the hits. It's just a constant 599 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: complaining no thanks. Listening to you is like reading Twitter 600 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: all day, no thanks. Since two thousand and nine, Bocoharamas 601 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: lomists have slaughtered more than one hundred and twenty five 602 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 2: Christians and nineteen thousand churches have been destroyed. Of course 603 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: they should get our help. They should get the help 604 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: of the free world. But if the free world really 605 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: wants to help, they would put an end to Islamis 606 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: to wherever they are. This becomes a much tougher conversation 607 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 2: because in many ways damage is done. At least that's 608 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: the argument that's made. Look what's happened in the UK. 609 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 2: Look what's happened in France. Look what's happened in the 610 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: whole of Europe. Look at what's happened with unfettered immigration, 611 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: unchecked immigration. Look what you've allowed in the country. How 612 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: do you now go about solving that problem? In the UK? 613 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: I have made the argument that Prince William will be 614 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: the last King of England. Prince George, his eldest son, 615 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: will never get the opportunity. 616 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 3: Country can't survive. 617 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: The country cannot survive, and the only way it will 618 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: is if the Church of England actually wants to remain 619 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: the Church of England. And that means and that means 620 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 2: you're going to have to remove the Islamist from your midst. 621 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: Kenneth in the Chat Room says, you can't use a 622 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: religious argument for military force. It has to be presented 623 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 2: as a threat. Islamists are a threat because if you 624 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: want to say that it is. 625 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 3: Religion, you can. 626 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: But it is clearly a political movement and I can 627 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 2: make that argument all day. 628 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: I make it without apology. The only way the United Kingdom. 629 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: Can remain a united never mind the Kingdom, is to 630 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: remove the Islamist threat that's going to lead to a 631 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 2: lot of fighting. Yep, there's a story out of Dearborn. 632 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: Dearborn residents startled by FBI raids connected to thwarted Halloween 633 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 2: terror plot. 634 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 3: That we discussed. This story that took place last week 635 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 3: where these raids took place in Dearborn and a place 636 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 3: called Inkster I n K S t e R. 637 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: It was Cashptel the FBI director saying that they had 638 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 2: thwarted a potential terrorist attack. Homes were raided, multiple multiple 639 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: people were arrested. Now, we don't have the story yet, 640 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: we don't have the data yet, We don't have everything 641 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 2: as of yet. 642 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 3: The individuals range in age from sixteen to the age 643 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 3: of twenty. This is all we know right now. We 644 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 3: don't have anything. 645 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: Else to this story about what it is that has 646 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: taken place. We do know that Dearborn has a large 647 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 2: Muslim population at this moment, I don't have anything yet. 648 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 3: I don't have anything about the who was arrested. 649 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: Uh wait, I do literally just coming out, I was 650 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: doing the searching. Two men are facing federal charges in 651 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 2: connection with what the FBI says was a foiled plot 652 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 2: for a Halloween weekend terrorist attack in Detroit. Mahmed Ali 653 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: and Majed Mahmud are accused of quote, receiving and transferring 654 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: and attempting and conspiring to transfer firearms and ammunition, knowing 655 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: and having reasonable cause to believe that the firearms and 656 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: ammunition would be used to commit a crime, a federal 657 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: crime of terrorism a seventy three page criminal complaint. They 658 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 2: will be in a Detroit courtroom this afternoon. Conspirators include 659 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 2: a juvenile. They had allegedly traveled multiple times over the 660 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 2: past few months scouting possible LGBTQ plus friendly attack locations. 661 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: There is so much here. There is so much to 662 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: dig in on. 663 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 3: Now. 664 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: First, it is not surprising to anyone who heard that 665 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 2: this took place in Dearborn. The names of the accused, 666 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: I do not know their story. I do not know 667 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 2: if they are American citizens. I do not know if 668 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 2: they're immigrants. 669 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 3: I don't have that answer. 670 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: The complaint says that the alleged plot was quote on 671 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: behalf of the designated Foreign terrorist Organization ISIS, and one 672 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: of these guys bought more than sixteen hundred rounds of 673 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 2: ammunition that quote could be used in the AR fifteen 674 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 2: style rifles he and the other guy had purchased. We 675 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: have to be people who can admit that there is 676 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: an American way of life and some things are not compatible. 677 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: No Islamist is compatible with the Western way of life. 678 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: No Islamist is compatible with any way of life outside 679 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: that that the Islamist desires. Because the Islamist only knows 680 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 2: my way or you die, and that is it. Tell 681 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 2: me about the jiju paying the tax, don't tell me 682 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 2: about living under subjugation. 683 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 3: It is my way or die. 684 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,479 Speaker 2: I've said before that Islam needs a reformation and needs 685 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 2: a bad But I take a look at the story 686 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: out of Nigeria, and I take a look at this 687 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: attack on Christians, and I take a look at stories 688 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 2: like this, and I take a look at it. As 689 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 2: I've discussed the United Kingdom, and I asked myself, what 690 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 2: happens here? You say to me, Tony, we're a nation 691 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 2: that has religious freedom. Thank goodness, we do. Are we 692 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 2: sure we're talking about this as religion? Well Tony, what 693 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: are you suggesting? Not suggesting anything? I am stating that 694 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: Islam needs a reformation. I am stating that the Islamist 695 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: is not religious in any way other than just as 696 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 2: a level of code. 697 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 3: Can we at least. 698 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 2: Admit to the basics, Well Tony, that's just bigoting against Muslims. 699 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 2: I reject the premise of that statement. I have got stories. 700 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 2: Why can't I connect the dots? 701 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 3: No? 702 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 2: Wait, I can? Why won't other people connect the dots? 703 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 2: And why will they tell me I'm some kind of 704 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: bigot if I do? 705 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: There is a. 706 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 2: Fundamental issue happening around the globe. And that fundamental issue, 707 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: whether in Dearborn, or whether in Nigeria, or whether in Gaza, 708 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: has to do with Islamists who want to kill. 709 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 3: What kind of a rational person doesn't say so? Winston Churchill? 710 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 2: Was it going back to nineteen thirty Maybe it was earlier. 711 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 2: Winston Churchill warned in the House of Commons day in 712 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 2: and day out, again and again and again and again 713 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 2: that Hitler is the threat, that's the threat to human civilization. 714 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 2: That is not just a threat to the empire, that 715 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: is the threat to survival writ large. 716 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 3: Every day he was laughed at, and every. 717 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 2: Day he must have felt humiliated, and every day he 718 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 2: said it again, and every day he was dismissed as 719 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 2: a warmonger. First you lead us to the Dardnells, and 720 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 2: now you want to what repeat the folly? And Neville Chamberlain, 721 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 2: who he had worked with, comes back as Prime Minister. 722 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 3: There will be peace in our time and an accord 723 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 3: with the Germans. And Winston Churchill still said, this is 724 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 3: a fool's errand this is a mistake. Here we are 725 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 3: with the enemy facing us. Will we not prepare and 726 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 3: confront it before it is too late? And then were 727 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 3: the Germans. They took the rest of Czechoslovakia. 728 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: And then they made their moves on France, and I 729 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 2: might have a little bit of the timeline off there. 730 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 3: And the British people said, oh, oh gosh, look at that. 731 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 3: I guess he was right. I do not believe that 732 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom today, Keir Starmer, 733 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 3: could save the UK. 734 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he has the strength. I don't even 735 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 2: think he has a conviction. He is not the man 736 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 2: he is the Neville Chamberlain. In order for the UK 737 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: to be saved, it is Prince William who has to 738 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 2: look at his subjects and say, we must survive. In 739 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 2: order for the world to survive, it must, for all 740 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: its differences, say none of us can survive if the 741 00:50:52,680 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 2: Islamist threat is left unchecked. I know that this is 742 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 2: hard for some, but the reality has been in our 743 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 2: face for decades. 744 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 3: It was in our face when they threw Leon Klinghoffer 745 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 3: off the Achille Lauro wheelchair and all. 746 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 2: The Islamist threat is real and we must either deal 747 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: with it now or it will deal with us tomorrow. 748 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 2: There is no other way to view it. I'm Tony Katz, 749 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 2: and this is Tony Katz today, congress Woman. 750 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 9: I think the administration has acknowledged, or is tacitly acknowledging, 751 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 9: that this is becoming a problem for them, particularly with 752 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 9: the split screen of the GATSTI party at the same 753 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 9: time that Americans were about to lose their food assistance. 754 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 9: But the way that they've been handling this is by 755 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 9: trying to deflect. In fact, we have some sound from 756 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 9: Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rawlins talking about how they are rooting 757 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 9: out fraud. Let's take a listen. 758 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 10: It is time to drastically reform this program so that 759 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 10: we can make sure that those who are truly needy, 760 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 10: truly vulnerable are getting what they need and the rest 761 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 10: of the corruption goes away and we can serve the 762 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 10: American taxpayer. So yeah, we want to number one most important, 763 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,959 Speaker 10: get the government open, make sure that people that really 764 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 10: need this money are going to get it. But guess what, 765 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,280 Speaker 10: there's a new sheriff in town. His name is Donald Trump. 766 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 10: And this program will be reformed. We will hold people accountable, 767 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,760 Speaker 10: and we will be able to help those who. 768 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 5: Really knew it. 769 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 2: What's wrong with reforming snap benefits? Nothing, I say, Tony Katz, 770 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, great. 771 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 3: To be with you. 772 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 2: That was Brook Rollins right there on Fox News engaging 773 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 2: the idea of reform. 774 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 3: If people are abusing the program, shouldn't we stop that 775 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 3: from happening? Now? 776 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 2: Take it back to MSNBC that seems to be outraged 777 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 2: about this and is doing an interview. 778 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 3: With Massachusetts Congresswoman Iana Presley, a member of the squad. 779 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 9: I guess one way to keep people from fraudulently claiming 780 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 9: benefits is by making sure no one can claim benefits. 781 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 11: No, First and foremost, this is the most corrupt administration 782 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 11: in history. And then they're cruel enough to create work 783 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 11: requirements for hungry people to get snapped. But for the 784 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 11: last month they have not shown up for work and 785 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 11: they've been on a taxpayer funded vacation. 786 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 2: That is not even an argument. But what is so 787 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 2: cruel about working? 788 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 3: Do you want to know why? I'm not a progressive. 789 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 3: That's why. That's why, Iona Pressley is why. What is 790 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 3: cruel about working? If you can, if you are able bodied, 791 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 3: what is cruel about this? What is cruel as creating 792 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 3: a world of dependency and keep people locked into a 793 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 3: system where they are dependent on government. That's obscene, it's 794 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 3: not kind, it's not good, it's not healthy. 795 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a very long standing conversation now, 796 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 2: but progressives like Iona Presley never stop. 797 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 3: So let's at least start with the baseline. 798 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: You are not kind, Iana Presley, You are not decent, 799 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 2: you are not good. If you want people to be 800 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 2: in a cycle of dependency where they are dependent on 801 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 2: the government for their basic sustenance and survival, that's evil. 802 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 3: Stop, You're not tough. You gotta cut that one out 803 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 3: right at the quick, and you're not smart, you're not special. 804 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 3: It's evil, wanting people to be dependent, wanting the people 805 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 3: to have to come to you with their hands open 806 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: and say thank you for the scrap. Oh yes, I'll 807 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 3: vote for you because that's the deal, because you feed me. No. No, 808 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 3: we should stop that in Massachusetts. Should vote better, but 809 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 3: one thing at a time. This is Tony Katz today. 810 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 12: More recently, Americans have been watching videos of ice tackling 811 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 12: a young mother, tear gas being used in a Chicago 812 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 12: residential neighborhood, and the smashing of car windows. 813 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 5: Have some of these raids gone too far? 814 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 13: No? I think they haven't gone far enough because we've 815 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 13: been held back by the judges, by the liberal judges 816 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 13: that were put in by Biden and by Obama. You're 817 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 13: okay with those tactics, yeah, because you have to get 818 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 13: the people out, you know, you have to look at 819 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 13: the people. Many of them are murderers. Many of them 820 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 13: are people that were thrown out of their countries because 821 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 13: they were, you know, criminals. 822 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 3: That angers a lot of people, angers a lot of 823 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 3: people that President Trump could so callously say no, we're 824 00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 3: not going far enough. There's a real conversation to be had. 825 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: About what kind of nation we want to be, how 826 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 2: in the world we run as a nation, and whether 827 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,240 Speaker 2: or not we're serious about changing things for the better. 828 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 829 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 3: I agree that if someone is walking down the street 830 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 3: and three guys in some camo type outfits fully armed 831 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 3: with masks on say, prove that you live in the country, 832 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 3: screw that. No no, no, no, no no no no, no, 833 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 3: no no no. 834 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 2: If they know who they are arresting, I have very 835 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: little problem with it. If they're just asking people, do 836 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 2: you have your papers? 837 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 3: Nah? No, I'm not down. 838 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I want to make 839 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 2: sure I'm always discussing is that I am an absolute 840 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: believer that we have great amounts of data on people 841 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 2: we know shouldn't be in the country. 842 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 3: Let's go get those people. 843 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 2: Let's not delay, let's not prevent ourselves from doing what 844 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 2: is necessary. Let's go get that done. The people who 845 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 2: are upset by this aren't upset by the small amount 846 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 2: of cases where somebody is improperly detained, but. 847 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 3: Rather the concept itself that we would admit that some 848 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 3: people don't belong in the United States. They are most 849 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 3: disgusted by the idea that we meant it when we 850 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 3: voted for Trump. 851 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 2: They're disgusted by the idea that there is a standard 852 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 2: at all. 853 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 3: Apoplectic, they cannot. 854 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 2: Be allowed to win elections. I mean, you gotta vote 855 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: against them. You gotta focus on running better candidates, you 856 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 2: gotta focus on supporting those candidates. This brings us to 857 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 2: the conversation about redistricting in California. 858 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 3: They've got Prop fifty because they need to bring it 859 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 3: to the people. What does Prop fifty dow? Prop fifty 860 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 3: proposes new lines for California's fifty two congressional districts and 861 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 3: would get rid of five seats. Why are they getting 862 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: rid of five seats. We'll not getting rid of five seats. 863 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 3: They're getting rid of five Republican seats because they don't 864 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 3: like what Texas did. 865 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: Texas engaged redistricting. I have been following this story here. 866 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 3: In my Indiana because it's been a hot subject. Yes, 867 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: it is clear that this is something that the White 868 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 3: House will But just like the removing of people from 869 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 3: the country who are here illegally, a lot of people 870 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 3: voted for President Trump because they didn't want the same old, 871 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 3: same old, And now they're. 872 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: Not getting the same old, same old. They're like, oh wait, 873 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I want this. Well, what do you want? Well, 874 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 2: I want things to be better, but I just want 875 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 2: to be nice about it. What does that even mean? 876 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: What kind of cowardly clap trap nonsense is that? What 877 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 2: do you mean you want to be nice about it? 878 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 3: Someone's in the country illegally, Well we should get rid 879 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 3: of them. Well, okay, we're getting rid of them. 880 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 2: Oh not like that, No, no, no, we should bake 881 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 2: them cookies and ask them if they'll go. Well, we 882 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 2: baked them the cookies. They took the cookies and they 883 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 2: said no, we all right, we'll bake them more cookies, 884 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 2: but we'll really ask them to go this time. At 885 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 2: some moment, you have to remove the person who is 886 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 2: in your house uninvited. 887 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: It is. 888 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Redistricting is a political process. It is legal, one thousand 889 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 2: percent legal. And as I watched there on over the weekend, 890 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I was at a listening session. It was a listening 891 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 2: session about redistricting. 892 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 3: That a state senator was having, and it was an 893 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 3: hour and forty five minutes away or whatever it was, 894 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 3: and I drove down there and I sat, and I 895 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 3: watched a bunch of people all over the age of sixty, 896 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 3: mostly women, and nobody was in favor of redistricting. I 897 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 3: don't know where the Republicans were. 898 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 2: I know that in that county they had a Republican 899 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 2: breakfast that morning. No one thought to come over to 900 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 2: where this event was happening and show their support for redistricting. 901 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 2: See that's that's weak Republicans. That is disorganized Republicans. 902 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 3: Well, Tony, you gotta to understand that they've got jobs 903 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 3: and they've got lives. Oh okay, I have heard that conversation, 904 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 3: that story for as long as I have been doing 905 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 3: this job. Republicans have jobs. They don't have time for this. 906 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 3: They don't have time for that. Okay, Democrats win, pick 907 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 3: the subject, Pick the subject, Democrats win. What do you 908 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 3: mean you don't have time on a Saturday to show 909 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 3: up for thirty two minutes? 910 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Not showing up is letting the 911 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: other side win? Not showing up is giving up. 912 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 3: Oh, they have jobs. You have to fight. You gotta 913 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 3: show up. 914 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 2: If you don't show up, don't expect good things to 915 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 2: happen because they can't happen. 916 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 3: But while I was there, I heard a bunch of 917 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 3: things from these people. 918 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 2: First, while they all not alls, I mean everybody, the 919 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 2: majority came a cross is polite to the State Center 920 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 2: who listened to everybody. It was two and a half 921 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 2: hours that I was there, because that was the scheduled time, 922 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 2: and he listened Trump a pedophile, Trump bed Republican's bad Trump, 923 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 2: This Trump that I know fascism when. 924 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,919 Speaker 3: I see it. Oh, holy hell. 925 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 2: Basically, if there was a talking point on MSNBC, it 926 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 2: came out from the crowd assembled. The talking points involved 927 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 2: things like constitutionality, and I realized that America needs a 928 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 2: Civics lesson, very very bad. The Constitution does not say 929 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,959 Speaker 2: you can only redistrict once every ten years. It calls 930 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 2: for a census once every ten years, and from there 931 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 2: you engage redistricting. Redistricting is a political process that state 932 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 2: legislatures engage, and they can do so anytime they choose. Now, 933 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 2: different states might have different rules, but states that do 934 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 2: not have these nonsense independent commissions, they can go about 935 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 2: redrawing the maps any time they want, as many times 936 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 2: as they want a year. Redistricting has happened over in 937 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 2: the course of our history. Mid decade redistricting. This is 938 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 2: not new. It is rare, but it is not new, 939 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 2: and it is not unconstitutional. It's not against the federal constitutions, 940 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 2: not against the state constitution. Meainst the Indiana and the 941 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 2: amount of people who said that was an overwhelming sum and. 942 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 3: They were all wrong. So they were either ignorant or 943 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 3: they were lying. I'm willing, actually to believe the former, 944 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 3: because we would all agree we need a Civics lesson 945 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 3: in America like nothing else. But the one thing that 946 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 3: I heard that was so unbelievable was this is just 947 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 3: a power grab. Is that right? Tell me more, Nancy Pelosi. 948 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 4: So here we are at this moment of truth for America. 949 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 5: When we've been here. 950 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 4: There's been a sign that says California will make the difference, 951 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 4: and California will make the difference in everything for our country. 952 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Oh good Lord, reason enough to do anything opposite of 953 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 2: what they're doing now. I don't think Nancy Bloci is 954 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 2: gonna curse their producer Landing, but I haven't able to 955 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 2: hear it all, So finger on the dump button. Also, 956 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 2: you've seen the debt, you've seen the homelessness, you've seen 957 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 2: the issues and you've seen the poop laden streets of 958 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 2: San Francisco. 959 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 3: Who wants California leading the way? No one, no one, No, 960 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 3: that's no one. For goodness sake. 961 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 4: We must win for goodness sake, for people to have 962 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 4: their healthcare and not to have their prices increase in Medicare, Medicaid, 963 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 4: for people to be pushed off, millions of people pushed off. 964 01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 4: And again Medicare is half a truly dollars taken off. 965 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 4: And why to give a tax cut to the richest 966 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 4: people in America. 967 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 5: That's not for goodness sake. 968 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 3: I hope they're doing. 969 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi who made all her money doing stock trades 970 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 2: with insider trading, while she allegedly served the people. 971 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 3: All right, maybe not all the money, but I'd like 972 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 3: to know the number. 973 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 4: And now we came into a weekend November first, when 974 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 4: people would start losing their Snap benefits. They told me 975 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 4: not to say snap but to say food stamps. And 976 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 4: what did the president do? Had a great Gatsby party 977 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 4: at Marrow Lago. 978 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Well, not all of us can sit at home and 979 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 2: eat eight dollars pint's ice cream, Nancy, instead. 980 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 5: Of feeding the American. 981 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 3: People again, the ice cream. 982 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 4: My colleagues who are here, and Zoe will be introducing them. 983 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,959 Speaker 4: Our colleagues who are here know that we passed a wall. 984 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 4: Is the wall that says, even in time of government 985 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 4: being shut down, the money is there to make it 986 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 4: to defeat them. People want snap the money is there, 987 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 4: and he says, well, I got to talk to my 988 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 4: lawyers and all of a sudden, no, the money is there. 989 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 5: It's the wall of the land. 990 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 13: For goodness stake. 991 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 3: This is a rally in favor of something called Prop 992 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 3: fifty in California to redistrict. They're redistricting is retribution for Texas. 993 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 2: The concept of retribution belongs to Texans and Texans alone. 994 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 2: They get to decide whether or not they like what 995 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 2: their state legislators have done, and they can vote those 996 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 2: people out. And when Texas decided to redistrict, I had 997 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 2: no thoughts of it happening in my state. And then 998 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: California decided retribution is the game, and I said, okay, redistrict. 999 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 2: The state of Indiana, redistrict, North Carolina Maryland Democrats are 1000 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 2: now going to redistrict power grab. I wonder what those 1001 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 2: people who attended the same thing I did this weekend 1002 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 2: in Indiana. 1003 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 3: What they would say to this wait, is this power 1004 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 3: grab good? But in Indiana, Republican power grab feel the 1005 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 3: air quotes is bad. 1006 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 2: This is politics and not appreciate it. If everybody acted 1007 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 2: like a grown up for a moment. Democrats have no 1008 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 2: issue playing the political game. And they have no issue 1009 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 2: saying that if they have power, they'll continue supporting illegal immigrants. 1010 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 2: They have no issue saying they'll push for government run healthcare. 1011 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 3: They have no issue with it. Politics is power, and 1012 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 3: so no one can decide to use it or one 1013 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 3: can decide to lose it. We are the ones who 1014 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 3: decide who has the power, because ultimately it should be 1015 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 3: ours power grab. 1016 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 2: Were these people all children who didn't know what it 1017 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 2: is we're talking about here. 1018 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 3: When California does it, it's good. When Indiana does it, 1019 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 3: it's bad. No, no, no no. 1020 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 2: For every state legislator in my state listening redistrict, do 1021 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 2: it now, don't apologize for it. 1022 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 3: Don't. 1023 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 2: There are greater things that play here than just our state. 1024 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 2: But it will help our state. And if you want 1025 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 2: to talk about power grab, Nancy Pelosi is your poster child. 1026 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. 1027 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 14: A lot about numbers this way and that this morning 1028 01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 14: and the brand new CNN pull. We did ask voters 1029 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 14: what their opinions of the parties in Congress were twenty 1030 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 14: nine percent favorable for Democrats, fifty five percent unfavorable. 1031 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 3: Why don't people like you, Senator Well, John, it's good 1032 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 3: to be with you this morning. 1033 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 8: The short answer is, at least for some time, Democrats 1034 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 8: did not see the party in Washington fighting back more 1035 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 8: strongly against Donald Trump and his attax on our democracy, 1036 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 8: on his failure to bring down prices. But also Democrats 1037 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 8: do need to provide a better alternative to Donald Trump. 1038 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 8: It cannot only be about going after Donald Trump. It 1039 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 8: needs to be about presenting alternatives. In fact, I'm working 1040 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,440 Speaker 8: on some proposals right now on the tax front to 1041 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 8: increase taxes on the wealthiest and make sure that middle 1042 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 8: class families, working class families get relief. 1043 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 3: So I think so Chris van Holland, the Senator from 1044 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 3: Maryland who likes to have margaritas with kilmar Abrego Garcia, who 1045 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 3: beats women. 1046 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 2: According to the reporting Hits on It, Democrats are not 1047 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 2: popular because they have no policies. The only thing they 1048 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 2: have is Trump Pete. And so what's his plan. Get 1049 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 2: some policies out there. What's a good policy? Raise taxes 1050 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 2: on the rich? 1051 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 3: Oh god, how do they win at all? It's the 1052 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 3: same stuff we've been hearing for two decades. 1053 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 2: That's your great policy. It's not about manufacturing, it's not 1054 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 2: about national security, it's not about cyber raised taxes on 1055 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: the rich. 1056 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 3: We really have to work over time to make sure 1057 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,240 Speaker 3: these people don't get in power. We really do. 1058 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today. 1059 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:18,560 Speaker 1: Live from ball Hartminer and the Crossroads of America. 1060 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz Today. What are we gonna do when 1061 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 3: there's no more shutdown? We don't have to have the 1062 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 3: shutdown press conferences from the Speaker of the House, Mike 1063 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 3: Johnson disease. But I mean, how are we gonna fill 1064 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 3: our time? Oh wait, We've got other actual things to 1065 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 3: do and we don't need this crap in our life. 1066 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 3: That is correct, That is well done, Well play, Tony Katz. 1067 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 3: Tony Katz Today, What are you doing? Find everything at 1068 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 3: Tony Katz dot com. Yeah, we're on day thirty four 1069 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 3: of this nonsense. The Senate unable to do its job, 1070 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 3: and somehow they think they deserve our respect. Democrats who 1071 01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 3: absolutely believe in power over all things, and Republicans who 1072 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 3: now have a president. 1073 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 2: Saying, hey, get rid of the filibuster, which would only 1074 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 2: give the left more power if they were to get 1075 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 2: into power. Why do it? There are places where I 1076 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 2: like a good risk, in places where I think the 1077 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 2: risk is not necessarily worthwhile you're winning this battle, well, 1078 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,640 Speaker 2: tony fifty two percent of Americans think that Republicans are 1079 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 2: keeping the government shut down. 1080 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 3: With all due respect, I have got one. 1081 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 2: Hundred pieces of polling that could take you in any 1082 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 2: which direction, including which Republicans are winning and independents are 1083 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 2: favoring Republicans on the shutdown. 1084 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,759 Speaker 3: The Democrats are lying, So let's admit it. Let's state 1085 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 3: it the way it is. 1086 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 2: They want to increase subsidies that they voted to go away, 1087 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 2: and they want to blame Republicans for killing Grandma. First, 1088 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 2: you're not getting grandma health care, Then you're not feeding Grandma. 1089 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 3: It's easy to see that Democrats. 1090 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 2: Are the ones who have allowed this to happen. Democrats 1091 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 2: are the ones not voting for their continuing resolution. There 1092 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 2: is no question that it is on them. But regardless, 1093 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 2: you don't get rid of the filibuster. Districting my favor. 1094 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 2: I think that's a good fight. Getting rid of the 1095 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 2: filibuster is what Democrats want, and you're not in a position, 1096 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 2: President Trump, to have that happen. It's gonna work out poorly. 1097 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 2: Let's not do things that work out poorly. Let's go 1098 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 2: about winning more elections. There will be times to engage reconciliation. 1099 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 2: There might be a time to get rid of the philibuster. 1100 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 2: That could possibly happen. But this is not it. This 1101 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,439 Speaker 2: is the capitulation, and I don't think Republicans should be 1102 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 2: engaged in capitulation. They did everything right. They passed a 1103 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 2: continuing resolution, they have voted on it. 1104 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 3: What is it fifteen plus times? I'm assuming we're gonna 1105 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 3: hear it from Speaker Mike Johnson. That's the end of 1106 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 3: the ballgame. It's really a kind of hollow. 1107 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 2: Conversation for some when they're like, Hey, I'm an air 1108 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 2: traffic controller and not getting paid. 1109 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 3: I hear you. I'm in the military and I'm not 1110 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get paid. I hear you. 1111 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 2: The benefits that provide me food are gone. Now there 1112 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 2: are two things to think about here. The first one 1113 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 2: is political and it is very very true. We have 1114 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,520 Speaker 2: forty million people on food stamps, on these benefits. 1115 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,800 Speaker 3: That's gross. It's gross. We shouldn't look at this and 1116 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 3: say this is an important program. This is absolutely going 1117 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 3: down the road of what it. 1118 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 2: Is that Thomas Soul warned about Thomas Sole warned about welfare. 1119 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 15: What the welfare system and other kinds of governmental programs 1120 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 15: are doing is paying people to fail. In so far 1121 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 15: as they fail, they receive the money. In so far 1122 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 15: as they succeed, even to a moderate extent, the money 1123 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 15: is taken away. This is even extended into the school 1124 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 15: systems where they will give money to. 1125 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 3: Schools with low scores. 1126 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 15: In so far as the school improves its education, the 1127 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 15: money is taken away. So that you are subsidizing people 1128 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 15: to fail in their own private lives and become more 1129 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 15: dependent upon the handouts. 1130 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 3: As clear as day, the economist Thomas Sole, well, that's 1131 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 3: years old. That is years old, and yet still a 1132 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:11,919 Speaker 3: billion percent. Correct. 1133 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 2: Democrats measure the success of a program based on how 1134 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 2: many people are on it. I believe we should base 1135 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 2: the success of a program based on how many people 1136 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,600 Speaker 2: are off of it. But the program is designed to 1137 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 2: keep dependency on the program, so the program never goes away. 1138 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 3: It is a perversion. And don't ever tell me the 1139 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 3: left is like the right. Don't ever tell me that 1140 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 3: it's a uniparty. There are sincere concrete differences, and if 1141 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,760 Speaker 3: there aren't, well, then allow me to draw the distinctions 1142 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,559 Speaker 3: and the lines. One thousand percent. 1143 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson takes to his daily briefing and starts 1144 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 2: briefing it up to just. 1145 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,919 Speaker 16: This morning in a very brief and concise manner, separate 1146 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 16: fact from fiction. So I'm just going to go through 1147 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 16: four false claims that you have heard over and over 1148 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 16: and over and just explain once more what the simple 1149 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:04,439 Speaker 16: truth is. 1150 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 17: Meredith, let me see the first light here. Here's the 1151 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 17: first one. 1152 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 16: The obviously false claim of the Democrats is that Republicans 1153 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 16: have closed the government. I've heard them say this myself. 1154 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 16: You've all seen it in interviews. They're blaming the shutdown 1155 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 16: on the Republicans and it is patently absurd. The next 1156 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 16: letter figure, the simple fact, the obvious fact that everyone 1157 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 16: can see it is Republicans who have voted to open 1158 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,439 Speaker 16: the government fourteen times. 1159 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,679 Speaker 17: Now, remember how this came about back. 1160 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 16: In September nineteenth in the House, Republicans in the House 1161 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:40,640 Speaker 16: voted to open the government the clean continuing Resolution to 1162 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 16: keep everything in operation. Every Democrat except one in the 1163 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 16: House voted to close the government, but we still passed 1164 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 16: it because we have the majority, and so we sent 1165 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 16: that bill over to the Senate. And thirteen different occasions, 1166 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 16: thirteen times the Democrats have voted to close the government. 1167 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,720 Speaker 16: Republicans voted yes every time to open it. Republicans in 1168 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 16: a Senate and the House voted to keep the lights 1169 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 16: on to pay service members in our troops who are 1170 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 16: in harm's way, border patrol agents, TSA, air traffic controllers, 1171 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 16: all federal workers. They voted to ensure that women, Infants, 1172 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 16: and children nutrition programs continue and that SNAP benefits continued 1173 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 16: to go to the American families who are in need. 1174 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 16: But by contrast, the Democrats have voted no every single time. 1175 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 17: And what is outrageous to us is that they have 1176 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:27,879 Speaker 17: gone onto. 1177 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 16: The Senate for Senate Democrats, they have voted no, they 1178 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,679 Speaker 16: voted to close the government, and then they have gone 1179 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 16: out to the Hall to the nearest camera they can find, 1180 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 16: and they have looked into the lens and said Republicans 1181 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:39,799 Speaker 16: are shutting down the government. 1182 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 17: It makes no sense. 1183 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 16: It's the most extreme example of gas lighting in the 1184 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,600 Speaker 16: history of American politics, and many in the media have 1185 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 16: allowed them to get away with that. 1186 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 2: I for one, I'm shocked shocked to find out that 1187 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,680 Speaker 2: they are members of the media that allowed Democrats to 1188 01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 2: get away with that. They've been repeating this time again 1189 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 2: and again and again, and part of it I think 1190 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 2: has been solid because you want to be on the record, 1191 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 2: you want to be pushing back, and the media won't 1192 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 2: cover it. 1193 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,320 Speaker 3: They won't. 1194 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 2: But I think at this stage of the game, the 1195 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 2: argument has to be Chuck Schumer likes it when your. 1196 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 3: Kid starves and dies. That guy's a filthy animal. I 1197 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 3: agree with you. 1198 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 2: That is gross stuff and not the politics that I want. 1199 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,679 Speaker 2: But here we are, that's what they're saying. Say it, well, Tony, 1200 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 2: you got to hold the standard. I need to get 1201 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 2: the kids fed. 1202 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 3: I don't get me wrong, I don't like that there's 1203 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 3: forty million people on this benefit. I think it's ugly. 1204 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 2: We've got a real problem in front of us, and 1205 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 2: we got to turn to people and say government's job 1206 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 2: is not to pay for your kid. 1207 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,680 Speaker 3: We should say so. We should say so because the 1208 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 3: objective should be get off the program, not stay on it, 1209 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 3: and we should make it more difficult. And you say 1210 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,599 Speaker 3: to me, my god, Tony, these are children, And I'll 1211 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 3: say you, when exactly do we solve problems in the 1212 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 3: United States or do we just say, oh, they call 1213 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,759 Speaker 3: me too many names. I'll stop. Now. We have work 1214 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 3: to do and we are failing, so let's not. And 1215 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,760 Speaker 3: it involves standing up to people who say you want 1216 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 3: people to die and tell them to go to Helena Hambasket. 1217 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 3: Screw off. You're just terrible. You're going to destroy a. 1218 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 2: Nation because you won't tell certain people they have to 1219 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,680 Speaker 2: get a job. That's different than whether or not some 1220 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 2: people need help. I want to help those people now. 1221 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 2: I believe that should happen to via a private charity. 1222 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 3: And I also believe that today is a good day 1223 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 3: to start donating to your local food pantry because people 1224 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 3: are gonna need it. 1225 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 2: No none of these benefits, people still need to feed 1226 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 2: their kids. Go be those people. We're doing it today too. 1227 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,679 Speaker 2: I don't want you to think that we're somehow out 1228 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 2: of it. There's already food drives, a planned and things 1229 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 2: that my wife is already taken care of and I'm 1230 01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 2: engaged in things today. Absolutely we do, and we should 1231 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 2: want to help our neighbor. We do, we should want 1232 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 2: to do we feel an obligation or do we is 1233 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 2: maybe another way to say it. I'll leave that up 1234 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 2: to others. This is really happening. I didn't say we're 1235 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 2: going to solve the problem today. I'm not saying there 1236 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 2: aren't people who really need help, but there are people 1237 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 2: out there who take advantage of a system, and the answer. 1238 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 3: Is no, and we need to be aggressive about that. 1239 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 3: And the people who don't want to be they want 1240 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 3: to destroy the country. 1241 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 2: And I say, to hell with them, and to hell 1242 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,040 Speaker 2: with whoever agrees with them. That's the fight. That's the fight. 1243 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 2: Not that we are somehow opposed to private charity. We 1244 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 2: should be supportive of it. I'm telling you go give 1245 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,120 Speaker 2: to your local food bank. 1246 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 3: If you can. If you can is a big one. 1247 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 3: But to be a favor of government programs for the 1248 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,080 Speaker 3: sake of the government program and say, how dare you 1249 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 3: questions on the government program I'll question anything that involves 1250 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 3: my tax dollar any day of the week, and twice 1251 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,599 Speaker 3: on Sunday. Those people can screw off if they don't 1252 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 3: like it. 1253 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 2: Those people being progressives, those people being those who are 1254 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 2: I disagree with me and say, oh, how dare you, Tony? 1255 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 2: You're just so mean. 1256 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 3: I'm not mean. I'm trying to save a society, and I. 1257 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 2: Believe that when I'm engaged in the honest conversation is 1258 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 2: better for society. Less government dependence is a good thing. 1259 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 2: More private charity is a good thing. 1260 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 3: More people working and not dependent on others is a 1261 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 3: good thing. Tutta back to Speaker. 1262 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 16: Johnson, it's shameful. Let me show you another obviously false claim. 1263 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,680 Speaker 16: Obviously false claim Number two of the Democrats is that 1264 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 16: Republicans are being unreasonable. Well, here's the fact. Let me 1265 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 16: see the next one. The fact is very simple. Republicans 1266 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 16: are refusing to accept the Democrats' outrageous demands. 1267 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 17: Now, why do we say that? 1268 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,879 Speaker 16: Remember the publicans Republicans could passed a clean continued resolution. 1269 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 16: It was non partisan. It was a simple bill that 1270 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,479 Speaker 16: would open the full government. And we could do that today. 1271 01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,919 Speaker 16: If they would pass that today was zero strings attached. 1272 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 16: Everything would be flowing again and the government would work. Importantly, 1273 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 16: Remember that we offered that CR in good faith. 1274 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 17: Why do we say that because. 1275 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 16: It was offered after a bipartisan, bicameral negotiation between both chambers, 1276 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,639 Speaker 16: because you see, you had the appropriators, Republican and Democrat 1277 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 16: appropriators who got together and decided. 1278 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,720 Speaker 17: They agreed on the need for a short term CR. 1279 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 16: So that they could continue their negotiations on the full 1280 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,759 Speaker 16: year funding bills. But this is something Democrats have spoken 1281 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,840 Speaker 16: passionately about and acted upon many times in the past. 1282 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 17: We've recounted here every day thirteen. 1283 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 16: Different occasions in a Biden administration they passed continued resolutions. 1284 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 16: They did it most recently in March of this year 1285 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,639 Speaker 16: when Chuck Schumer. Ten Senate Democrats, including the leader Schumer, 1286 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 16: voted for the R and told us how important that was. 1287 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 16: The CR that's on the table right now and has 1288 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,640 Speaker 16: been sitting there for forty five days, is nearly identical 1289 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 16: to the one that they voted on in March. But shockingly, shockingly, 1290 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 16: this is the big thing. In addition to their refusal 1291 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 16: to support the R and reopen the government, the Democrats 1292 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,240 Speaker 16: have had the audacity to also demand something new. They 1293 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 16: demanded one point five trillion dollars with a T and 1294 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 16: new spending obligations in exchange for the simple funding resolution. 1295 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,599 Speaker 16: They filed on paper in the Senate record back in September, and. 1296 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 17: It still sits there. 1297 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 16: As their kind of proposal, they would spend one and 1298 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,040 Speaker 16: a half trillion dollars of your taxpayer funds. Included in 1299 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 16: that is nearly two hundred billion dollars of taxpayer funds 1300 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,719 Speaker 16: that they want to use to restore free health benefits 1301 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:45,480 Speaker 16: to illegal aliens. They want to spend billions and wasteful 1302 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 16: left wing spending projects in foreign countries on things like 1303 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 16: LGBTQ plus awareness in the Horn of Africa, all sorts 1304 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:55,760 Speaker 16: of things. I could give you a long list, and 1305 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 16: we've said it here before. They want to spend a 1306 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 16: half a billion dollars to prop up left lee need 1307 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:05,280 Speaker 16: news organizations. And shockingly, in that same proposal as their 1308 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,799 Speaker 16: ransom for reopening the government, they want to cut fifty 1309 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 16: billion dollars from the rural hospital fund that the Republicans 1310 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 16: just got signed in a law on July fourth. 1311 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:20,559 Speaker 2: Now we can argue whether or not the Democrats would say, well, 1312 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,640 Speaker 2: that's not actually it, Well that's not actually that. I 1313 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 2: can I share with you that I don't think any 1314 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 2: part of this matters. Here's what matters. Obamacare failed and 1315 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 2: Now Democrats who were okay with sunsetting the subsidies in 1316 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five are allowing children to starve and die 1317 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 2: so they can prop up their desire for universal health care. Now, 1318 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 2: maybe that one still isn't as clean, and that's part 1319 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 2: of the problem. 1320 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,720 Speaker 3: It's hard to put all of this in a in 1321 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,040 Speaker 3: a nice little sentence that makes it easy to understand. 1322 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,839 Speaker 3: So I think that you got to stick with everyday 1323 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:05,520 Speaker 3: Democrats don't vote for the CR. Children die because of Democrats. 1324 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:07,759 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer baby killer. 1325 01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,719 Speaker 2: That's what you have to say, Tammy Duckworth, baby killer. 1326 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 3: It's what Maizi Rono, baby killer. That's what you have 1327 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 3: to say. Amy Klobuchar, baby killer, time and again and 1328 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:28,559 Speaker 3: again and again. Now you tell me it's crude. The 1329 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,799 Speaker 3: whole thing is crude. The whole thing is crude. 1330 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to apply the pressure where it's necessary. 1331 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 2: They're not voting for a CR. Kids are starving, if 1332 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 2: babies die, that's what they do. They're baby killers. They 1333 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 2: couldn't get them with abortion, so they got them with this. 1334 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 2: No too soon, too much, too close? No, yes, can't 1335 01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 2: do that. No, No, okay, all right, that's too much 1336 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 2: all right, just want to know when exactly the truth 1337 01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 2: was too far? 1338 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 3: My apologies everybody. God, that was certainly awkward. 1339 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 16: That is the bill that they filed that shut down 1340 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 16: the government, and every American can see that for themselves, 1341 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,400 Speaker 16: so their claim about Republicans being responsible is laughable. 1342 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,599 Speaker 3: And then he goes on to some others from there 1343 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 3: to Speaker Johnson. In the end, we solve a shutdown. 1344 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 3: And I don't know why President Trump is so insistent 1345 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:28,800 Speaker 3: on ending the philibuster. That is what the Democrats want, 1346 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 3: and then. 1347 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,480 Speaker 2: They get power, and then they don't need the philibuster 1348 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 2: because President Trump said, get rid of the filibuster, and 1349 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 2: they pass things with fifty one votes and it gets 1350 01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,759 Speaker 2: pretty bad. Now you've got a president who can thwart 1351 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,480 Speaker 2: that and not sign it. But it's a valueless proposition. 1352 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,080 Speaker 2: It's valueless. 1353 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,560 Speaker 3: Now, you say to me, Tony, you understand when the 1354 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,120 Speaker 3: Democrats have power, they're going to totally get rid of 1355 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,600 Speaker 3: the philibuster and they don't care about the deal or 1356 01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 3: or honesty or tradition. They care only about power. I 1357 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,719 Speaker 3: wholeheartedly agree. 1358 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,400 Speaker 2: One of the reasons I favor redistricting, by the way, 1359 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,760 Speaker 2: but I put forth to you that in a game 1360 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:16,640 Speaker 2: of strategy, why would you give up a leverage. 1361 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,280 Speaker 3: Point now when you can do so later. Now, some 1362 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 3: people have saving me, Tony. 1363 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,679 Speaker 2: This is way too honest, man, You're letting way too 1364 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,639 Speaker 2: much out of the bag. They have stated that this 1365 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 2: is their best moment for leverage. They have stated that 1366 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 2: this every day gets better for them in terms of 1367 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:33,879 Speaker 2: the shutdown. 1368 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,639 Speaker 3: They've said these words. Should we pretend that this isn't 1369 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,520 Speaker 3: about leverage? 1370 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,600 Speaker 2: Now is not the time to get rid of the 1371 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 2: philibuster when they're clearly flailing. When they're failing, maybe later 1372 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 2: is the time to get rid of the filibuster, if 1373 01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 2: at all, but putting the pressure on John Thune to 1374 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,599 Speaker 2: get rid of the filibuster now as opposed to putting 1375 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 2: pressure on the political left as I'm sorry that's a mistake. 1376 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,400 Speaker 3: Now I will say about President Trump, he did he was. 1377 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 3: Don't ask me why in the world he was on 1378 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 3: sixty minutes yesterday, Bud. 1379 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,040 Speaker 5: He was first day of the government shutdown. 1380 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 12: We are now approaching the longest shutdown in American history. 1381 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,920 Speaker 5: Democrats fault under your presidency. 1382 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 12: We're talking about more than a million federal workers who 1383 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,439 Speaker 12: are not getting a paycheck. Including for air traffic controllers. 1384 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 12: You see there's traffic snarls out at the airports now. 1385 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:36,759 Speaker 12: This weekend, food aid for more than forty two million Americans. 1386 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,600 Speaker 5: Is set to expire. What are you doing, as president 1387 01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,120 Speaker 5: to end the shutdown. 1388 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 13: What we're doing is we keep voting. I mean, the 1389 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,479 Speaker 13: Republicans are voting almost unanimously to end it, and the 1390 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,920 Speaker 13: Democrats keep voting against ending it. You know, they've never 1391 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,640 Speaker 13: had this. This has happened like eighteen times before. The 1392 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,120 Speaker 13: Democrats always voted for an extension, always saying, give us 1393 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,120 Speaker 13: an extension, we'll work it out. They've lost their way, 1394 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 13: they become crazed lunatics, and all they have to do 1395 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,760 Speaker 13: Nora is say, let's vode. 1396 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,360 Speaker 2: He's right, that's it. So let them. But leave the 1397 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 2: filibuster be for now, mister President. Don't give up that 1398 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,360 Speaker 2: hand just yet. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 1399 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 3: So I had said that because. 1400 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:26,759 Speaker 2: Of Arctic frost and how Verizon gave up information sell 1401 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,719 Speaker 2: information about Cenator Ted Cruz, but at and T refuse 1402 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,400 Speaker 2: to give up information, that I absolutely was going to 1403 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,080 Speaker 2: switch wireless carriers. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, So I 1404 01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,760 Speaker 2: start doing the research. Okay, how in the world do 1405 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,240 Speaker 2: I do this? And it's not to coverage as bad 1406 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,559 Speaker 2: where I live. It's that if you take a look 1407 01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:51,680 Speaker 2: at download speeds, like AT and T is at the 1408 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel, but maybe I don't care. So 1409 01:29:54,920 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 2: it shows that AT and T their download speed is 1410 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 2: eighty one point eight megabits per second. Verizon is one 1411 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 2: hundred and three. So I don't know if I would 1412 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 2: notice anything really in terms of speeds being slower. Team 1413 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:19,400 Speaker 2: Mobile is two hundred and twenty four. It's double and 1414 01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,679 Speaker 2: in the case of AT and T and nearly triple. 1415 01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, do I have to have to switch to 1416 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 2: T Mobile? What's happening here? So the question that I'm 1417 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,400 Speaker 2: asking you is do I. 1418 01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,360 Speaker 3: Care about download speed like this? Does it really matter 1419 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,920 Speaker 3: to somebody who's just watching reading news stories and checking 1420 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 3: email and watching a stupid video on Facebook? Do I care? 1421 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:42,639 Speaker 3: You gotta let me know. 1422 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,360 Speaker 2: You gotta let me know, because I'm ready to make 1423 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,719 Speaker 2: the switch out of Horizon right now. This is Tony 1424 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:56,280 Speaker 2: Katz today. So I mentioned before how President Trump went 1425 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 2: on sixty minutes, and I gotta tell you, I don't 1426 01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 2: know why We have no idea why you would do 1427 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 2: it now. Maybe the story here is that sixty minutes 1428 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,920 Speaker 2: is now under the control of Barry Weiss, and maybe 1429 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,760 Speaker 2: one has to give it a chance. Maybe you have 1430 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 2: to give them an opportunity. I don't say no to that. 1431 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,200 Speaker 2: I made an appointment for a haircut. It's just proof 1432 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:24,040 Speaker 2: of what I'm saying, Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, good. 1433 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:24,320 Speaker 3: To be with you. 1434 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:29,040 Speaker 2: I made an appointment to get a haircut, and I 1435 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 2: had tried years ago. I tried this place, and I 1436 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 2: was taking my youngest We're gonna get haircuts together. 1437 01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,719 Speaker 3: It was gonna be a cool bonding screen little kid. 1438 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe at the time he was eight, maybe so 1439 01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 2: a long. 1440 01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,320 Speaker 3: Time ago, maybe nine. 1441 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,360 Speaker 2: And we get there and we're supposed to do it together, 1442 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,479 Speaker 2: and they're gonna take me first. 1443 01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,240 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, it'll be me and then him, and 1444 01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,559 Speaker 3: it'll still be fine. And they do the thing like 1445 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,280 Speaker 3: they kind of get you prepped up, and then it 1446 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:03,479 Speaker 3: was like, okay, we'll have a seat. 1447 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,160 Speaker 2: We'll get back to you later. And I said, I'm sorry, 1448 01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,200 Speaker 2: what do you mean get back to me later? 1449 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:08,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 1450 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we had some other people come in and 1451 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,040 Speaker 2: we have to get to them first. I swear to 1452 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 2: the true story. I was like, goodbye, and I walked up. 1453 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:16,720 Speaker 2: We walked out. 1454 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,360 Speaker 3: Nine years ago, I made an appointment with that place today. 1455 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 3: Why well, after there, I'd found somebody who actually did 1456 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,080 Speaker 3: a good job, and that lasted a few years, and 1457 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,720 Speaker 3: then they left and I don't know where they went 1458 01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 3: to next. 1459 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,679 Speaker 2: So I had to bounce around until I found somebody 1460 01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:33,920 Speaker 2: else that did an okay job, and I figured, all right, 1461 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,120 Speaker 2: we could learn this together. And then they just left. 1462 01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, sometimes you got to start all 1463 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,240 Speaker 2: back over. Sometimes you're gonna be like, all right, where 1464 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 2: where do people end up? How do things flow? I'll 1465 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,639 Speaker 2: try I'll try something else. So I'm like, it's been 1466 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 2: eight years. Maybe they've gotten better. 1467 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 3: Maybe whoever's made that mistake with me which was really rude, 1468 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:56,160 Speaker 3: you know what. 1469 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 2: Maybe they're gone. Because I remember their emails and I 1470 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,720 Speaker 2: was actually a phone called that. I'm like, this is 1471 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,280 Speaker 2: just wrong, and why would I come back the time 1472 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 2: heals all wounds. 1473 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,720 Speaker 3: I'll give it a go. Maybe it'll be better. 1474 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,880 Speaker 2: And so I can appreciate that uncertain things you like, 1475 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,799 Speaker 2: all right, maybe I'll give it another try. But giving 1476 01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,519 Speaker 2: sixty minutes a try after CBS has treated you the 1477 01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 2: way it has and has manipulated video and they've lost 1478 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:22,920 Speaker 2: lawsuits to you. 1479 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,679 Speaker 3: Is kind of nutty. But since it's Barry Weiss, I'd 1480 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,439 Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I can understand it. ABC. 1481 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,720 Speaker 2: I'll never understand why any Republican does an interview with 1482 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:35,920 Speaker 2: George Stephanopoulos. 1483 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:42,719 Speaker 3: Is is beyond comprehension. It is insane, ridiculous, crazy talk 1484 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,639 Speaker 3: that they would do this. But there's the president, he 1485 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:52,680 Speaker 3: is on sixty minutes, and it gets into every conversation 1486 01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,120 Speaker 3: in including ling well it's not even a word tony, 1487 01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,840 Speaker 3: including Nicholas Maduro. 1488 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,799 Speaker 12: And now the USA Gerald Ford that is the world's 1489 01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,760 Speaker 12: largest aircraft carrier on the way to the Caribbean. 1490 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 5: Are we going to war against Venezuela? 1491 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:08,840 Speaker 3: I got it. 1492 01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,400 Speaker 13: I don't think so. But they've been treating us very badly, 1493 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,200 Speaker 13: not only in drugs. They've dumped hundreds of thousands of 1494 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,200 Speaker 13: people into our country that we didn't want. People from prisons. 1495 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,479 Speaker 13: They emptied their prisons into country. They also, if you 1496 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 13: take a look, they emptied their mental institutions. And they're 1497 01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,720 Speaker 13: insane asylism into the United States. 1498 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,120 Speaker 3: Of America because Joe Biden was the. 1499 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,519 Speaker 13: Worst president in the history of our country. 1500 01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,120 Speaker 12: But I just want to talk about the scale of 1501 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,879 Speaker 12: the military operation around Venezuela, because it has been described 1502 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 12: as sixty minutes. 1503 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:43,519 Speaker 5: As using a blow torch to cook an egg. Is 1504 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,000 Speaker 5: this about stopping thanks? 1505 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,639 Speaker 12: So look is it about let me ask you though, 1506 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,320 Speaker 12: is it about stopping narcotics? 1507 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,840 Speaker 5: Or is this about getting rid of President Maduro. 1508 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:53,280 Speaker 3: Before anything else? 1509 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,080 Speaker 2: I had not heard anybody use the expression it's like 1510 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,720 Speaker 2: utilizing a blow torch to cook an egg. 1511 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,160 Speaker 3: But I am reminded, and I posted the interview I 1512 01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 3: had with Major Mike Lions, retired United States Army military analyst, 1513 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 3: about the idea of visible leverage, this idea of visible leverage, 1514 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,880 Speaker 3: and as as Mike Lyons explained it, he's got the 1515 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,120 Speaker 3: piece over there at at real clear defense. And I'm like, 1516 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:25,960 Speaker 3: I have heard this before. I have absolutely heard something 1517 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,040 Speaker 3: like this before, and I was trying to figure out 1518 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:34,280 Speaker 3: where I have heard it, and it realized it was 1519 01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,840 Speaker 3: un sue. 1520 01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,280 Speaker 2: You know, first of all, it's like the idea of deception, right, 1521 01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,719 Speaker 2: if if your weak looks strong, if your strong look weak, 1522 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 2: do all those kinds of things to try and benefit 1523 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:55,679 Speaker 2: yourself into to a level of victory, but being able 1524 01:35:55,720 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 2: to show strength, to be able to kind of put 1525 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 2: forth that vision out there. It's not necessarily new, and 1526 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 2: I would argue that it certainly does seem to be 1527 01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:11,840 Speaker 2: the way that Donald Trump works. 1528 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,639 Speaker 3: It's not a bad thing. It's not bad at all. 1529 01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I think there's a great 1530 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 3: value to saying, hey, we do have this strength. We 1531 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 3: don't want to use it, but we do have it. 1532 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 2: Reminding the enemy a blowtorch to cook an egg, I 1533 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,599 Speaker 2: think that the conversation should be, well, at. 1534 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:38,680 Speaker 3: Least the egg is cooked. Now. The real issue. 1535 01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,479 Speaker 2: Here is whether or not the president needs congressional authority 1536 01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,680 Speaker 2: to wage war, because if he's going to call it 1537 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,680 Speaker 2: some level of war action, as he has in statements, 1538 01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 2: and he's going to take out these drug votes to 1539 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 2: which I have no issue. 1540 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,160 Speaker 3: But if it's a war, well then you got to 1541 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:53,640 Speaker 3: declare it. 1542 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 2: And that's the role of Congress, and the president should 1543 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,680 Speaker 2: know that he cannot usurp Congress in this way. No 1544 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,600 Speaker 2: member of Congress, senator's going to take it. This is 1545 01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 2: their job. You're not taking their job from them. They'd 1546 01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,639 Speaker 2: rather fight you. They don't really care what you scream. 1547 01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,400 Speaker 2: It was like when people said you have to confirm 1548 01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,200 Speaker 2: everybody that Donald Trump has nominated. Senators are like, sure 1549 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,519 Speaker 2: we do. We're senators. We don't have to do. Nothing 1550 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 2: will outlast him. That's what we have to do. And 1551 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:27,280 Speaker 2: sure enough, that's exactly how it went down. The president 1552 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:28,000 Speaker 2: has a. 1553 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:31,400 Speaker 3: Very very serious coalition and serious space, and that's a 1554 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,559 Speaker 3: good thing. Doesn't mean he gets everything. 1555 01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 2: And this starts with any time he thinks that he 1556 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:42,600 Speaker 2: can overtake or through force of will, the role of Congress, 1557 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,400 Speaker 2: whether it be advise and consent on cabinet officials or 1558 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,080 Speaker 2: the declaration of war, they're going to say, nah, no, no, no, 1559 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,160 Speaker 2: this is kind of what we do here. This is 1560 01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,679 Speaker 2: our legacy too we're talking about and you might think 1561 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,240 Speaker 2: that that's nuts, but it is accurate. 1562 01:37:56,479 --> 01:38:00,160 Speaker 3: But neither here nor there. On the war conversation, I 1563 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 3: have no problem with sending the gerald Ford down to 1564 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:07,880 Speaker 3: the Caribbean at all. Blow towards the cooking egg. Egg's 1565 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:08,719 Speaker 3: gonna get cooked. 1566 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,799 Speaker 13: No, this is about many things. This is a country 1567 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,879 Speaker 13: that allowed their prisons to be emptied into our country. 1568 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,120 Speaker 13: To me, that would be almost number one. Because we 1569 01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,640 Speaker 13: have other countries to Mexico has been very bad to 1570 01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:22,839 Speaker 13: us in terms of drugs. 1571 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,160 Speaker 3: Okay, very bad. We have a closed border right now. 1572 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,320 Speaker 13: You probably noticed that for five months in a row, 1573 01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:32,679 Speaker 13: they have zero, think of this, zero people coming into 1574 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,040 Speaker 13: our country through our southern. 1575 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:39,639 Speaker 12: Border on Venezuela in particular. Are Maduro's days as president numbers? 1576 01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:40,320 Speaker 3: Oh? So yeah? 1577 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,320 Speaker 12: I think so you And this issue of potential land 1578 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,120 Speaker 12: strikes in Venezuela, is that true? 1579 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:45,880 Speaker 3: I don't tell you that. 1580 01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,680 Speaker 13: I mean, I'm not saying it's true or untrue, but 1581 01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,560 Speaker 13: I know I wouldn't be inclined to say that I 1582 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 13: would do that. But because I don't talk to a 1583 01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,839 Speaker 13: reporter about whether or not I'm going to strike, Let's. 1584 01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:57,599 Speaker 5: Talk about Israel. 1585 01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:01,759 Speaker 3: Right, He's completely right, you don't talk to a report 1586 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,599 Speaker 3: about that. I wonder how much of this was edited 1587 01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,519 Speaker 3: and how that's going to be taken and are we 1588 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:12,719 Speaker 3: back to lawsuits again? But our Maduro's day is numbered? Yeah? 1589 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:18,560 Speaker 2: I think so, well, how does that happen? And I 1590 01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 2: would argue that that could be Trump speaking, not Trump doing. 1591 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:25,839 Speaker 2: Trump doing is something different. 1592 01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 3: Then they got into the conversation about nuclear testing. 1593 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,479 Speaker 12: Less than an hour before your meeting with President She, 1594 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 12: you posted on social media that you instructed the quote 1595 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,520 Speaker 12: Department of War to start testing our nuclear weapons immediately. 1596 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:43,519 Speaker 5: What did you mean? 1597 01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,799 Speaker 13: Well, we have more nuclear weapons than any other country, 1598 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,559 Speaker 13: and I think we should do something about denuclearization. And 1599 01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,960 Speaker 13: I did actually discuss that with both President Putin and 1600 01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:59,280 Speaker 13: President she. We have enough nuclear weapons to blow up 1601 01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,000 Speaker 13: the world undred and fifty times. Russia has a lot 1602 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,360 Speaker 13: of nuclear weapons, and China will have a lot. They 1603 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 13: have some, they have quite a bit. But I don't 1604 01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,439 Speaker 13: have to test well because you have to see how 1605 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,320 Speaker 13: they work. You know, you do have to. And the 1606 01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 13: reason I'm saying testing is because Russia and now said 1607 01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,920 Speaker 13: they were going to be doing a test. Have you 1608 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 13: noticed North Korea's testing constantly? Other countries are testing. We're 1609 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,479 Speaker 13: the only country that doesn't test, and I want to 1610 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 13: be I don't want to be the only country that 1611 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:26,599 Speaker 13: doesn't test. 1612 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:32,840 Speaker 3: It must be hard for reporters like Nero O'Donnell to 1613 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,800 Speaker 3: understand how the real world works. Why do we have 1614 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 3: to test? Why aren't we testing? Why aren't we testing? 1615 01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,120 Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people when they heard this, 1616 01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,719 Speaker 3: they were like, wait, we don't test our nuclear arsenal? 1617 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,880 Speaker 3: Why not now. 1618 01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,599 Speaker 2: We I got tested, you know, in the ways that 1619 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:57,000 Speaker 2: other nations tested, as I spoke with Major Mike Lyons 1620 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,479 Speaker 2: and you know it, underground testing. It's a far save 1621 01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:04,559 Speaker 2: for more controlled atmosphere. But of course this idea, why do. 1622 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,240 Speaker 3: We have to do that? Why are we doing that? 1623 01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:13,520 Speaker 3: You absolutely fearful child there. I am on a tear. 1624 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:18,240 Speaker 2: Today about people not engaging childlike problem. 1625 01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:20,439 Speaker 3: We need to be adults here. 1626 01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 2: The Russians, the North Koreans, the Chinese, all of them 1627 01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 2: have to know we cannot be messed with. Will hurt you. 1628 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,519 Speaker 2: We'll call your mother a name or two. We don't care. 1629 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 2: You come at us. We're gonna hit you so hard 1630 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,240 Speaker 2: your grandchildren are gonna be dizzy. That's how that one's 1631 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:41,439 Speaker 2: gonna go. They don't understand what it is to have 1632 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,360 Speaker 2: a force. They don't understand what strength is. They believe 1633 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,000 Speaker 2: that somehow you can out nice these people. This is 1634 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:54,360 Speaker 2: the problem with liberalism. You cannot out nice the Islamist, 1635 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,439 Speaker 2: you cannot out nice the communist. And who is it 1636 01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 2: that we're dealing with all across America creating us issues? 1637 01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,160 Speaker 2: The case rested that Red Green alliance that we've talked 1638 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,840 Speaker 2: so much about as long as they can do away 1639 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,439 Speaker 2: with Western civilization, they will work together. They will then 1640 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,240 Speaker 2: fight each other, and I assume the communists will lose 1641 01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:16,559 Speaker 2: because the people on the side of the communism, these 1642 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 2: absolutely dopey college students who are adults, these absolute damn 1643 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:24,040 Speaker 2: fools in high school, and these pathetic losers who have 1644 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,840 Speaker 2: infiltrated all of our universities. 1645 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 3: They can't actually take up weapons and fight. They have 1646 01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:34,120 Speaker 3: to rely on the decency of capitalists and Christians to 1647 01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:34,920 Speaker 3: roll over. 1648 01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 2: You can't do that with an Islamist. They're going to 1649 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:44,040 Speaker 2: kill you and your daughters. Oh no, No, it's not 1650 01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 2: because I'm a bigot. Shut that face. Whoever it is. 1651 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,800 Speaker 2: It's saying out there those absolute tools. No, I've got 1652 01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 2: history on my side, and I didn't have to go 1653 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,760 Speaker 2: back to the twelve hundreds. All I had to do 1654 01:42:56,080 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 2: was go back to last week President Trump now saying that, hey, 1655 01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,400 Speaker 2: and the slaughter of Christians Nigeria or there's going to 1656 01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 2: be a problem. 1657 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 3: And it was it Tucker. Oh, I didn't mean to 1658 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,360 Speaker 3: bring up Tucker Carlson. He's like, huh. Interesting Trump can 1659 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,799 Speaker 3: say this about Nigeria and no one thinks he's attacking 1660 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,639 Speaker 3: black people. But when we say it about Israel, holy cow, 1661 01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,840 Speaker 3: is he a dopey guy. That's just dopey. 1662 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,640 Speaker 2: Israel didn't go about just attacking Palestinians. 1663 01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,360 Speaker 3: The Israelis were attacked and have been attacked and continue 1664 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:36,880 Speaker 3: to be attacked, and yes by Palestinians. This is Christians 1665 01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,719 Speaker 3: under attack by an Islamist group Bokaharam, and no one's 1666 01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:46,559 Speaker 3: doing anything about it. The Islamists are the issue in 1667 01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,800 Speaker 3: both cases. Tucker doesn't know that. Of course, Tucker knows that. 1668 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,920 Speaker 3: But when you're a Sophist, so this is what you do. 1669 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,880 Speaker 3: Tucker knows, and Canvas knows. 1670 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:01,960 Speaker 2: They all know. Just don't care because I don't know. 1671 01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if they believe it or not, and 1672 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,479 Speaker 2: I don't care to know whether they believe it or not. 1673 01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,280 Speaker 3: I simply am going to expose their madness and move 1674 01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 3: on with my day. 1675 01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,880 Speaker 2: But it is it is clear that of course you've 1676 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,760 Speaker 2: got a test weaponry, and the clutching of pearls is 1677 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,080 Speaker 2: just precious. 1678 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,800 Speaker 12: Are you saying that, after more than thirty years, the 1679 01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:28,519 Speaker 12: United States is going to start detonating nuclear weapons. 1680 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,240 Speaker 13: I'm saying that we're going to test to nuclear weapons 1681 01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:32,240 Speaker 13: like other countries do. 1682 01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,599 Speaker 12: Yet the only country that's testing nuclear weapons is North Korea. 1683 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:40,000 Speaker 13: I know Russia's testing nuclear weapon My understanding of China's 1684 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,760 Speaker 13: testing them too, you just don't know about it. 1685 01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:43,559 Speaker 5: That would be certainly very newsworthy. 1686 01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:47,360 Speaker 12: Understanding is what Russia did recently was test essentially the 1687 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,880 Speaker 12: delivery systems for nuclear weapons, essentially missiles, which we can 1688 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,640 Speaker 12: do that but not with nuclear. 1689 01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 13: Russian's testing and China's testing, but they don't talk about it. 1690 01:44:56,439 --> 01:45:00,640 Speaker 13: You know, we're a open society, we're different talk about it. 1691 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,960 Speaker 13: We have to talk about it because otherwise you people 1692 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,840 Speaker 13: are going to report they don't have reporters, they're going 1693 01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:05,960 Speaker 13: to be writing about it. 1694 01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:07,000 Speaker 12: We do. 1695 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm still not sure why President Trump did it, but man, 1696 01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,759 Speaker 2: that guy will talk to anyone anywhere, at any time. 1697 01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:19,120 Speaker 2: It is impressive and it's what keeps Americans supporting him. 1698 01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,519 Speaker 3: It really does. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today. 1699 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 2: Not to put too fine a point on it, but 1700 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 2: we said this was true and we were correct that 1701 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:33,040 Speaker 2: there's a segment of America that is okay with political violence. 1702 01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:37,759 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Over there Politico, Aaron Darty 1703 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:42,360 Speaker 3: writing and the headline was America is bracing for political 1704 01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:43,719 Speaker 3: violence in a significant portion. 1705 01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:50,479 Speaker 2: Think it's sometimes okay. We know, we understand that there 1706 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:55,839 Speaker 2: is a segment of America that thinks the political violence 1707 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,160 Speaker 2: is okay, that we are in it and it's fine. 1708 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,479 Speaker 2: And you know, I talked about populism and the populism 1709 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,639 Speaker 2: or President Trump and how I oppose it. I oppose 1710 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:09,559 Speaker 2: populism in Toto. And what we see from the political 1711 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 2: left is nothing but this. 1712 01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 3: Now it can be regarded as as communism and this 1713 01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 3: idea of well, they're not communists, are democratic socialists? Oh, 1714 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:20,160 Speaker 3: dear lord. 1715 01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:25,760 Speaker 2: And the CNN reporter is like Trump called Momdania a 1716 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,040 Speaker 2: communist when he's not a communist, he's actually just a 1717 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 2: democratic socialist. 1718 01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,320 Speaker 3: Like there's a difference. But leave it to the utilitians 1719 01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:37,280 Speaker 3: of the press to buy into the wordplay. Yes, the 1720 01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,280 Speaker 3: left thinks that the political violence is all right. They 1721 01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,040 Speaker 3: think it's okay to kill the people that you disagree with. 1722 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,680 Speaker 3: And my only fear is if people. 1723 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,720 Speaker 2: Don't actually have a value system, but rather engage some 1724 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,320 Speaker 2: other type of system, then certainly these things do get increased, 1725 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,759 Speaker 2: the possibility increases, and that can happen from any side 1726 01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:00,919 Speaker 2: right now, it's the left. It's undoubtedly and clear and direct. 1727 01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,679 Speaker 2: But my concern is legit. The only way out is through, 1728 01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,920 Speaker 2: and bad times are ahead. We have each other that's 1729 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:08,920 Speaker 2: got a matter for something. 1730 01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,519 Speaker 3: Tomorrow. Everyone, I'm Tony Katz, take care of