WEBVTT - Patreon Voted: Devil in a Blue Dress (30th Anniversary) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.240 The Frames per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.720 Welcome everyone to a new episode of The Frames per 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.239 Second Podcast. My name is Convenience, joining me on the show. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.560 I got Rod and Spike here Man here. We just 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.120 uh we actually just did a review. I think this 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.240 will definitely be coming out later than that. I believe 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.079 I have to check the schedule. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.560 Of the movie Him, so you guys check that out. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:36.040 That movie is basically about football culture, sports culture. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:41.479 Uh turned told uh in almost like a horror package, 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.519 very abstractly. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.040 But one thing about the movie, Rod, is that it 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:51.760 was really talking about ghats. H We're talking about one 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.960 of the ghosts in this movie. Yes, talk about one 0:00:54.960 --> 0:01:00.120 of the Ghats. We gotta talk about Washington Man. And 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.320 you know they'd be trying to talk down on the 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.880 brother Denzel and this, that and the other, like this 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.679 man ain't one of the best to ever do it. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:08.480 We ain't gonna stand for a Spike. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:09.040 No, we can't. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.160 We ain't let talk about it. But that's the reason 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:18.240 why Mike isn't here now. Mike is out this week. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.160 I hope you haven't having a good time, brother, but definitely. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.839 In The Blue Dress Man, released in nineteen ninety five, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.319 it was written and directed by Carl Franklin, based on 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:33.520 Walter Mosley's nineteen ninety novel. It features Denzel Washington who 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:38.440 stars as Easy Rawlins, Don Chetoh as Mouse, Jennifer Bills 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.399 as Daphne, and Tom Sizemore as Alright. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.560 It received positive. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.200 Reviews at the time for is noir styles, social commentary, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:51.000 and performances. And then it's set in nineteen forty eight 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.760 Los Angeles, exploring race, politics, and corruption through. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:02:00.000 The new orlens. So we'll get into an over overall 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.520 discussion of kind. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.000 Of the movie. Uh, and uh, lets see what we 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.880 think about it. So we're never gonna start at the beginning, 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.720 but first let's uh get our initial thoughts. Well, I 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.360 don't know if initial thoughts would be the way to go, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.640 but I guess my question would be, did you guys 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:18.920 watch this way back. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:19.359 In the day? 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.880 I did watch you way back in the day, and 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.600 I don't know why until I watched it again before 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.600 I review this. I don't know why I used to 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:29.840 think this was a Spike Lee movie. 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:34.320 I mean, because the same things Spike how did wasn't it? 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.799 Halfway through the movie I was I was like, wait, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.600 this ain't Spike I've seen it. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.200 When it came on, it was like directed but I 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:40.959 was like, wait. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.720 I didn't even see directed by because I was setting 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.520 up and I was walking around getting snacks and ship watch, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.440 so I missed all of the bro in the beginning. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.079 All my life, I thought this was a Spike Lee movie. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.360 And I was like, damn. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.200 But the Denzel movie Spike is in. Is it Moba Blues? 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.639 Yes, that's the That's why you think that because it's 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.520 not around the same time, but it's nineties. Yeah, more 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.880 better blues came out before this in the not in 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.280 like in ninety, like nineteen ninety or whatever. So I've 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.520 always when I when I hear one or the other, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.680 I always have them both in my head. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.480 I never can remember which one is which. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.400 That's crazy. That's why I never knew this wasn't spikely movie. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.280 But to that point, I love this. I thought this 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.280 was great. I remember liking it back in the day, 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.880 but even watching it this time around, it was even 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.440 better to me, Like I feel like this is this 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.280 hell did a great job, Like the storytelling and acting 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.040 was good. It was like a like noar, I think 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.200 that's a genre that they call it. I feel like, yeah, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.360 I feel like you should do more with black leads 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.480 and that I even feel like this could be remade, 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.320 like they could do the same thing, but it didn't 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.720 have to. Like this was made in the nineties, but 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.480 it was set in what nineteen forty eight? You said 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.040 they could make this now have it like set in 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:54.960 the eighties and nineties, And I think it would be 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.960 good as well, as long as you had a good actor. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.680 It's like developing the story more around the time period 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.440 and like how people interact from in the difference in 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.200 the eighties and nineties than they do today, and tell 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.120 that story in the same type of way, same in 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.600 And I think you could do the same thing. I 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.400 think that's how good this holds up. But I was 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.880 very entertained, phone not in hand, just watching it, Like 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.599 the first time I seen it. I loved this movie. Yeah, 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.320 I saw it back. I saw it back in the day. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.440 I don't remember why I saw it either, probably just 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.920 because it was Denzel and I'm sure my mom or 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.280 whoever had rented it and I watched it. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:30.680 You know. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.640 I want to say I was in going to high school, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:36.960 maybe in college. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.440 Yeah, so I was in high school. If you was 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.320 in college, I was in high school. I think I 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:41.480 rented this from Blockbuster. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.720 Yeah I didn't. We had it and then and yeah 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:45.159 I saw it. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.280 The one thing I remember, the thing that stood out 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.240 the most of me was when she was like, you 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.080 hit my spot, you hit my spot. So that's the 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.279 one thing I remember about this movie at the age 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.720 that I watched it. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:00.640 For a while. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.719 See, Like, I was like, that's the one thing that 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.680 stood out. I was like, is that is this that movie? 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.000 I couldn't remember if it was this one A more 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.240 bit of Blues. I couldn't remember which one it was in, 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:09.400 but I knew it was in one of them. I 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.600 was like, yep, this the one. This the one I 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.280 was waiting for that. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:19.320 I was so concerned, wake up. That ship is crazy. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:19.800 That's it. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.200 And as a young young man, you know, you know 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.200 what I'm saying, Like that shit was was crazy. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:26.000 She was wild. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.160 So yeah, but nah, yeah, I thought it was always 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:30.960 a solid film. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:31.240 It's not. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.200 It's not something I was into it that at that 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.200 age or whatever, and watching it now I have much more, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.760 much more of an appreciation for it. Definitely, So I 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.920 think it's a solid film. I'm not like crazy about oh, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.360 you gotta see Devil in the Blue Dress, because I 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.040 don't even think I picked that one when they when 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.960 Jayleen was saying, yo, what's your top three or whatever, 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.160 I didn't pick this one in particular. So, but no, 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.440 it's it's it holds up. I think it definitely holds up, Spider, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.880 it definitely holds up. It can even be like I said, recreated, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.200 I think it's solid story. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:01.280 You know. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:07.159 Yeah, And going back to Correca, she was even teasing 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.600 him to like, you know, that's good enough. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.840 We're gonna we're gonna stop. He was like, what the hell? 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.600 Knowing it was like just a little bit, just a 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.839 little bit right right, right right now, we should be 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.000 doing this is bad, right. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.880 I don't even know that girl. I'm just I'm just 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.040 looking for for somebody else. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:32.920 Yeah. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.400 I can't tell you how or why I even watched 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.280 this movie back then. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:38.680 I don't know. I can't even. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.920 This was Denzel Washington. That's it. That's all it needed 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.840 to be. We was watching the Denzel watching the movie. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:48.520 Come on. Yeah. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.160 Yeah, we talked about what we had these conversations before 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.440 about names, what draw, what's the what's the draw? 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.760 Denzel Washington is a draw period. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.240 Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think this was a 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:01.800 go to Denzel movie for me. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.960 I can't. I have not watched this movie a lot, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.400 Like it felt like I was watching it like like 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:11.120 I was like. 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.800 Oh, yeah, I remember that's all. Yeah, I remember this. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.920 But it was just like, wait, what's gonna Like it 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:15.600 was almost like it was. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:16.000 The first time. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.360 Like we were talking about thirty years. There's no way 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.880 I'm saying I want to watch Devil in Them never ever. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.400 Like, but you almost forget, like you said, you watch it. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.200 It's like because it's probably because of the age that 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.040 we were, but now you appreciate it more. I just 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.160 feel like it's aged a lot better than it was 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.320 when we watched it, which is while over thirty years, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.080 I've probably seen this once, like, but now I would 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.600 go back and watch it i'fter seeing it with new eyes. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.640 Yeah, you know, we were, which you know, I like 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.400 that we do the anniversaries. One we were just having 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.480 a conversation on is the misialone podcast on the Patreon 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:49.360 part about. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.200 Mint Life, you know, And I think when you realize. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.920 When some of these movies come up, you remember them, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.640 some of them more vividly than others, and you were like, dang, 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:03.720 it's been doing it thirty Oh my, that's why it man. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.680 And then so it's good to go back because you 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.440 know I've said this on other episodes of Frames per Second, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.960 is that you know, I'm a one movie watcher for 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.320 the most part, I don't need to watch movies over 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.440 and over again. You know, there are rare movies that 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.240 that I rewatched. But but the beauty of doing this 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.240 show is that it gives me a reason to go 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.480 back and rewatch. Otherwise I'm watching something new. But but 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.120 in this one, though, you know, we we're not going 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:34.280 to talk about it in three parts. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.040 So we get introduced to uh. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.480 He's a Rawlins who was a World War Two vette 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.040 who was in the machinery. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.720 You know, he's laid off, he's struggled with warriage. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.920 He had a conversation with his boss and he was 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:54.360 pointing out the racial parts of it. As that was coming. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:55.839 He was like, oh, yeah, so the white man could 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.240 do a double shift, but you know, but you know, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.200 and call off it the fine blah blah blah blah blah. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.040 And then a guy called him fella head like that, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:08.000 and I guess something happened, because he was like, oh yeah, 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.960 he would have got your job back. You would apologize 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:12.959 and Denzel and put up with a lot of the 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.679 racist stuff that people were doing in the movie. To him, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.680 I did respect that he got his boy Choppy, who 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:27.040 introduced him to Albright, and Albright hired him to find Daphne, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.120 and Easy goes around searching in you know, different clubs. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.679 He meet Correta, We talked about we linked Staphanie to 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.880 Frank Green and Albright you know, it's paying him a 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.360 hundred dollars and then gave him a hundred more dollars. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.280 And then there's a police arrest and then Easy frame 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.320 from her, and we see in a newspaper that the 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.160 mayor drops out of a race, and all this stuff happens, 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:52.040 you know in the movie. One thing I did do though, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.080 because I was curious. I went back and when he 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.520 gave him a hundred dollars, I was like. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:58.840 What is that today? 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:07.360 Thirteen one hundred dollars thirteen forty forty five cents, So 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.920 one three hundred forty dollars and forty five cents is 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.640 what one hundred dollars would get you today? 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.880 And how much was mortgage in nineteen forty. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:14.880 I don't know what the mortgage is. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.719 But you know what what made me look it up, Rod, 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.080 was when you said he was talking about something was 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.360 fifteen cents. 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.120 A low of bride bro break fifteen cents. Bro said, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:26.640 my god. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.520 I was like, well, you complained about fifty cents. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.360 I was like, you, how much was the mortgage? 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:31.520 It? 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:32.400 Bro? 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.280 Fifteen cents, Bro, that's insane. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.080 So anyway, so I did all the numbers, actually, because 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:39.640 there were a couple of One I didn't do was 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.640 the thirty thousand. I don't think I'd looked up thirty thousand, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:44.960 because that at the end of the movie she looked 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:45.840 up thirty thousand. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:46.839 What was the mortgage? 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:47.280 Man? 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.680 The average cost of a home was only seven thousand 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.320 dollars and seven hundred dollars bro in nineteen forty. Imagine 0:10:55.320 --> 0:11:00.880 you're sitting on that you don't pay for it, man, Yeah, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:02.559 that is crazy. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:03.600 On thousand dollars. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.280 So that means like a monthly payment was about forty dollars. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.720 So yeah, and so that gave him enough money to 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.280 pay his movies. So I want to get to a 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.400 social part of the beginning of. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.080 This movie how it kind of set up a lot 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:16.640 of different things. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.559 So, of course one thousand dollars because he talked to 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.199 old Boy about one thousand dollars, and that was thirteen 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.120 thousand dollars, and then seven thousand dollars another number that 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.600 she paid for the pictures. That is ninety three thousand dollars. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.960 That's the equivalent of ninety three thousand dollars today. So 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.240 those are the numbers from she was day some thousand dollars. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:42.760 Yeah, right, he was good. He was too good. Yeah, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.920 people love mousing this he was too good to update on. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.800 This is approximate mortgage payments with twenty nine dollars a month. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.319 You had a down payment of five hundred and fifty 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.280 dollars my house. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.480 So one of the things I thought was that's really 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:07.640 interesting is throughout the movie, Easy is wearing the jacket 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.240 of the place he used to work at. Yeah, Champion, right, 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:19.160 Easy event, Easy good at this job. Easy just wanted 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.720 to work and pay his mortgage because he had the house. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.400 He was really proud of the house. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.360 Love come on to his house, something like owning something. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.480 In nineteen forty eight, Given the history of everything that 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.000 was going on, that was a lot because you're denied 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:41.840 a lot of things. Yeah, the way the jacket, what 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:47.280 happened to him? What that sentinels, of course, is how 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.400 people and black people want to do good, but they're 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:58.760 forced to do bad because of circus. Right, here's a guy, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.360 a good man, all intensive purposes. Now, he had a 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.040 shady cousin, got some mass, you know. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.400 All right, but you know he identified that, he said it, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:07.520 so he left him alone. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.400 Yep, yep, you know, but exactly he left him alone. Yeah, 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.040 but I thought that that was interesting. He and the 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:18.920 jacket is a reminder that he's only running around, yeah, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.400 because he lost his job and he had to pay 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.439 his mortgage because hent want to lose his house, and 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.760 so he get caught up in this well of deceit. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.400 That's why I think that this story is so good 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.679 and can be like retold now, like you can have 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.160 the same version of this guy in the nineties, like 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.000 the eighties, like it would be a great story too. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.640 I feel like stories are being told like that. Yeah, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.480 you're right, you can say that about Walter White. Yeah, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.280 you know what I'm saying, Like like like so, yeah, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.160 I feel like this story is actually being told today. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.720 If you think about different stories, which. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.320 Is why I said people and then I mentioned black people. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.160 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just people because it's the it 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.520 just impacts us more because as in this story and 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.040 then we're the first to go. And that's why he 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.959 wanted to point out, was like whether this guy right 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.760 here could do this? And then the other part, of course, 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.360 the social commentary is that he's the fall guy mm 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.280 if everything goes wrong, so he's gonna be blamed for everything, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.560 which is why Albright went to go get black people 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.960 to do the stuff, because they're always the villains. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.160 Right, It's all gonna fall back on him anyway. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.080 Yeah, yep, yep. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.440 So what did you guys think, Like, did you guys 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.720 think the movie did a good job of captroine like 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.840 post war LA with the clubs, the music, the racism 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:34.600 and stuff like that. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.560 Yeah, I feel like they did a perfect job of 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.320 putting us in the world. World building being one of 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.920 my favorite things, like just them not even having to 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.480 explain why Easy was the man that Alright would select 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.640 to do it. And then like they didn't explain it, 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.200 You're like, well, why the hell he just off He 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.720 ain't no private detective of police officer. He ain't got 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.120 the like how would he be able to find it? 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.840 But you instantly figured that out once you seen him outside. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.600 Everybody knew him, so if he was able to uh 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.160 ask questions like when he made it to the club, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.000 like it wouldn't letting the white man in, but he 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.000 was able to get right upstairs. He knew the security 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.880 guard when he got there. People knew who he was. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.080 But it was good in the sense of how they 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.480 show community to be. Like I've seen plays before about 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.160 the little juke joints that they would have in people 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.480 houses and they would be upstairs. It would be hitting 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.680 from the police because they couldn't go to regular clubs 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.160 and have fun as black people, so they would do 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.240 it at the house, just like this one was. I 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.920 just felt like they did a really good job of 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.600 putting us in the world telling that story. Post wore 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.040 him being a good guy in a bad situation, being 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.560 proud of owning something, like all of it was well done. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.880 It may have been just because I seen him too 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.880 and see the good movie versus a bad movie. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.280 What was the significance of the guy constantly choppa down trees. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.360 I think it's like Friday with Eazel. Okay, you know 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.080 what I'm saying That that was like, that's the person 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.440 that's always around. They always see the shit that happened 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.040 in the neighborhood. They just had to give him something 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:11.920 to do, drugs when the thing back then, I feel like, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.520 so him being a tree man, I guess he selled 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.760 the wood or something like that. Yeah, he cut the 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.520 tree down, sell the wood. Maybe that was a thing 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.640 back in the day, but the significance of that, I 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.120 feel like in modern day terms is like on Friday 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.600 when you have Eazel just around seeing everything and having 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.960 information because he was able to warn him that the 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.840 dude was at his door and stuff like that. He 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.560 tried to tell him when the people had broken his house. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:34.960 So yeah, that's what I took from that. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:36.320 Rob. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.440 I do you think what do you think about Denzel 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.480 as easy? Like did he really kind of capture this 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.440 old sort of reluctant detective sort of thing that he 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:45.920 was doing. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:47.360 Yeah? 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.000 Yeah, I think he did a good job here. 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:49.240 Man. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:51.280 Yeah. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.480 I know people saying he has one beat and things 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.080 like that, but I don't know, I felt like it 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.080 was a little different here. It wasn't like the the 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.680 Denzel that we know today. In my opinion, I don't know, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.800 it's just it's just something was slightly different. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.639 There was there was a bit of blackness to it 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.879 that it's almost like, yeah, it was a bit of 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.080 blackness to him, but not like over the top over 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.359 the time. Yeah, because you kind of compare this to 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.200 like training day, where it was a little bit more 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:17.280 of a darker Yeah. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.359 Yeah, yeah, yeah, one Like no, it was it was 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.280 just like like like we're saying, he was just a 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.360 regular black man that wanted to do right, but then 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:25.240 he got pulled. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:26.520 Into some some some some. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.840 Ship or whatever due to the circumstances, and that's what 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.719 it felt like. He didn't he didn't at this point, right, 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.680 he didn't feel like Denzel didn't feel bigger than the role. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.679 To me, it felt like if we didn't know him 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.080 as Denzel, he would have just been like a black 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.640 man that he was playing as this in this role. 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.040 And so that's what that's what it felt like to you. 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:48.600 So I thought he did good. I thought he did 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:49.280 it really well. 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.720 Yeah, I guess I didn't know that was his best 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.200 friend in the club when we got introduced to Kreta 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.160 that was sitting it down because he he just wasn't 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:59.520 all with Correca Deacon. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.359 Yeah yeah, yeah, was. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:09.199 Like, yeah, yeah, that lady is very She has a 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.800 great sex appeal. I think she plays that very played 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.800 that like vixen like role very well. I think she 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.000 did it. It was life when it was life, when 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:23.080 she took she took money. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.160 Yeah, he said. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:27.159 Yeah, she looked real godly to me. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:32.280 Huh oh, he's sleep and he was sleeping right, not. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.240 Out because they were making a lot of was rocky 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:41.439 right yeah yeah, but uh yeah, but but you know, 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.760 I do want to issue a correction, a little bit 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.120 of a correction, a little modified, just a little bit 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.320 or just uh pointed out that we. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:52.520