1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Wow, I would say more often than not. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm a guy who smokes in the toro shape. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: That size is more often than not. I'm gonna say 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: more often than. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Not where I go that or a churchhill. I gotta 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: admit I like a larger cigar. I like larger size, 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: not necessarily ring gauge, but six inch and longer. That's 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: where I like to be with a cigar. That's the 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: time that I give it. Not everybody has that Rabustos 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: the five inch. It's fine, this happens to be a toro. Man. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 2: That was a lot of words just to say we're 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: smoking a toro. It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers maloy. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Is this a toro? It sure is. It is the 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Alec Bradley. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: This is the Safe Keepings Toro right here, which has 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: me just a touch confused. 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second. 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: This is a six by fifty two toro, which means 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: it's six inches long. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Always makes fingers when I laugh. And the ring gauge 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: is a fifty two. 23 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: That's the diameter of the ciar, or how thick it 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: is around me again with the laughter. So a sixty 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: four ring gage would be a full one inch around. 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: So this is a good mouthfeel for me. On a 27 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: cigar Nicaraguin throughout rapper, binder and filler. But it is 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: supposed to be Maduro is the rapper and then it's 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Nicaraguin Habano in the rapper and the binder. Now when 30 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: I think Maduro, you're talking about darker Richer Moore fermentation. 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: Right, that's what Maduro is. 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this rapper fingers, you're looking at this 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: rapper and my only answer is Nope, that's not what 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: I think of at all. So I don't know how 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: it is referred to unless someone simply made a mistake 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: and it's not Maduro. But that's how I check things out. 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: Prices out a couple places. One of those is Neptune Cigar. 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: We don't have a financial relationship with them, but I 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: think they do a very very good job and some 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: quick descriptions and how they present the site and they 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: said Madurea and I'm like, I don't see that that. 42 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: I went to the Alec Bradley dot com website and like, 43 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: I don't see it. 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: There either. 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: I see this as Nicaraguan puro rapper binder filler and 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Habano in the rapper in the binder. So I'm not 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: sure where the Maduro thing comes into play. 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: Are you sure that maybe everyone else is wrong and 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: you're right? 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Did it be that it could be that I am 51 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: indeed a genius. 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: That's absolutely positively possible. But I want to try. 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: I want to smoke and I'm cutting it today with 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: my benchmade. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: What earth is that? 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: So benchmad doesn't make this anymore? And bench Maade does 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: not a sponsor of the show. It's basically a guillotine 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: and it looks like a small knife and then you've 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: got the spot here for the cigar and it'll block 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: it and then just like off with their head. 61 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: It's exactly what it is. 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: It looks like you got it from your moil. 63 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: Oh well, it would need to be bigger if it 64 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: was my moil. There it is, by the way, happy passover, everybody. 65 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: I've wished you a happy passover at least twelve times. 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: Today and I appreciate that very very much. Cut there, 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: it is done. 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: I wish I hope the mic picked that audio up because. 69 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: The crust, you know what it's, it's a cool cutter, 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: but it's not the it's not right. 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: It's that ere you're. 72 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Really using pushing to cut as opposed to cutting to cut. Now, 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: every cutter is going to pinch first, that's how it 74 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: has to. But this one, it's more cool for the 75 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: affect than anything else. 76 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: It was a good effort from Benchmaine. They made great knives. 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: I do have some of their knives, but the cutter 78 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: is just a fun little piece to have. 79 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so make sure you check it out on our 80 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: YouTube page. Just look for each rink smoke on YouTube, 81 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: where you'll find all of our videos. You'll be able 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: to see Tony cut his cigar with his guillotine. 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Ten bucks didn't show up on video. Fingers you've been smoking. 84 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: It's the Alic Bradley Safe Keepings here. 85 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: It is a medium brown. 86 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: It's weird. It's it's a touch dry, but I don't 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: like it's. It's smoother, but it's a touch dry and 88 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's my humidor or something else. 89 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: Oh, how long has this been resting in your humidor? 90 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: I would say four days? 91 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, first of all, the hand feel is nice. 92 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 3: It's it's not quite it's it's on the heavier side 93 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: of what I was expecting, but not quite what I 94 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: would consider beefy. 95 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: Right. 96 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: It just feels really good in the hand. I just 97 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: looked this about five minutes ago, so I'm only in 98 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: the first third of the first third of the cigar. 99 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: The only thing I'm taking away right now not any 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: real pepper, not any real spice, but a nice wood note. 101 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: But again, I just lit this and Tony literally just 102 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: lit it thirt seconds ago. 103 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: First first puff. Outrageously smooth, outrageously smooth. No, there is 104 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: nothing hitting it there. There is no uh, there is 105 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: no pepper note, there is no real big tobacco note. 106 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: It's just it's just playing right now. 107 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: I would almost, you say, would I would almost go earthy, 108 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: which is one of those terms that I did not know. 109 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: Earthy drives some cigar guys crazy, like certain people hearing 110 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: the word moist, it drives them batty. 111 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: I don't know why it drives them nuts. Earthy. 112 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: It's take a poll, Someone tell me earthy is one 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: of those words that make cigar people say, oh this 114 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: is this is terrible. Don't tell me about earthy. The 115 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: last thing that is just a bull crap term. 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: It's not. 117 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 3: What about Earthy Moist? 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: Earthy Moist is the name of my band in college. Yep, 119 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: we were very very huge on the Green Circuit. Okay, okay, 120 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: come on, I went a prize for that, don't I 121 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 2: come on? Come on that. First of all, nice draw, 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: nice draw. The cigar feels in the hand tight like 123 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: it's so like sometimes you get a little sponginess out 124 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: of cigar on this the Alec Bradley safe keepings on 125 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: this one none zero, Like I wonder what's gonna happen. 126 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes as you're smoking right, things do move around and 127 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 2: things do loosen up. But that feels really really tightly packed. 128 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: But first on the draws is quite all right. Yeah. 129 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: Also, I really like the band on this. It's very nice. 130 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: Because it's one band that's easy to take off. Absolutely. 131 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: I had a cigar the other day and I can't 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: remember which one it was. I'll have to look back 133 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: at my U. I like to take a photo of 134 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: every cigar just in case I want to throw it 135 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: on the old social Media's there. It has three bands, three. 136 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: Throw out the cigar not doing this? Uh no. The 137 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: band is actually rather large with the staircase up and 138 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: the moon is there the Alec Bradley Safe Keepings, and 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: it's got a got a couple of statues, and there's 140 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: a there's a statue, there's a fountain, there's a key. 141 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're trying to say here you 142 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: can ask them. Grab out your notebooks, right down the date? 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: What did you we today? What did you drink today? 144 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: What is the weather like? Nice? Right now? In central 145 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Indiana where we come from, Indianapolis, Indiana. I always think 146 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: I say Indianapolis. Wrong. 147 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: Always I focus on Michigan more than than Indianapolis. Yeah, 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: well you say Michigan. 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Michigan. 150 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: That's right, as opposed to you say Michigan sometimes can yes, 151 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: Michigan like that, okay, littlek in there, Michigan. That's better 152 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: as opposed to Michigan. Michigan is what you say sometimes. 153 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: And you think Michigan. 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: I know it's Michigan, that's there it is, But you 155 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: think I say Michigan. 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: Sometimes you do. 157 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I'll pull the audio. 158 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: All right, Well start something. 159 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Oh what am I supposed to say? Grab your notebooks? 160 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: What do you eat today? 161 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: What did you drink today? Write all that down and 162 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: absolutely can affect your palate. Then take the scar, breaking 163 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: up at the third's first third, second, third, final third, 164 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: write down the notes. What are you getting from each third, 165 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how weird it is, doesn't matter what. 166 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: It reminds you of from elementary school. Write it down. 167 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: When you try the cigar a month from now, six 168 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: months from now, you do it again, and then you 169 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: compare your notes. You get your through line and get 170 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: an idea of where you are with the cigar, what 171 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: you really liked, and then you start learning, Hey, if 172 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: it's got these elements, this is what I like, or 173 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: this is what I don't like, or this is I 174 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: want to learn more about the Alec Bradley A safe keepings. 175 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: We'll get into whether or not this is in the 176 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: humid or Fingers Maloy, and then we have to get 177 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: into drinking. And I give fair warning, it's a no 178 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: bourbon day, no bourbon, it's passover and I can't I 179 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: can't have the wheat, oh no corn corn. 180 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I actually could do, but we. 181 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: Decided to go in a different direction. 182 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: You'll see it soon enough. 183 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Fingers Malloy is a huge fan of peanut butter. Who 184 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: isn't well, I'm not sure who isn't. I was just 185 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: stating that you are a huge fan. 186 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: Of peanut butter, like every American out there, even the 187 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: people who are allergic to peanuts. 188 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: Right, too many people Aregric's peanuts. We should we should 189 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: fix this. I'll get right on it. See drink Smoke. 190 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy, 191 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: do not let Father's Day come as a shock to you. 192 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Get our books. 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: Let's go Bourbon, and let's go bbq from Amazon dot com. 194 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Let's go Bourbon, the bourbon reader you've always needed. 195 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: And let's go bbq recipes, tips and tails from the 196 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: pit at Amazon dot com. 197 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: Get them while supplies last. 198 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm I'm right now, I'm looking up. I'm getting in 199 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: contact with my person and Amazon. Oh, supplies are limited. 200 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: They are not jiff. 201 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: The story coming from Parade dot com, where Fingers from 202 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: gets all his peanut butter news. They have a peanut 203 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: butter and chocolate spread that they that they've got out there. 204 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: They got a peanut butter and chocolate bread because everyone 205 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: loves the peanut butter with the chocolate. And now they're 206 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: going to roll out a crunchy peanut butter and chocolate. 207 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: So the question for you is do you like the 208 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: creamy peanut butter or the crunchy peanut butter. Oh, crunchy, 209 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: it's crunchy, It's correct. The only thing that is challenging 210 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: about the crunchy is when you're making a peanut butter 211 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: sandwich with crunchy peanut butter. Sometimes if you don't have 212 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 2: really good bread, so you get with the wonderbread, it 213 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: will tend to tear up your bread because you're spreading 214 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: the peanut the crunchy peanut butter. Are you somebody so 215 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: savage that you take it right out of the jar 216 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: and try and spread it on white bread? What are 217 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: you supposed to do? 218 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: You gotta let it sit a little bit. 219 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: You gotta like get a little softer, you like, maybe 220 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: a quick a quick shot in the microwave, or toast 221 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: your bread a little bit so it can hold up. 222 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: Do you refrigerate your peanut butter? 223 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: Some peanut butter? Oh, I've saw you know what I 224 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: want to apologize. In this house there is oftentimes organic 225 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: peanut butter. Good lord, Yeah, but you're right, you're talking 226 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: about peanut peanut butter you're talking about peanuts spread and 227 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: peanut n that'spread has all the enzymes that your body craves. 228 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: Jeez you Okay, I. 229 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Forgot what I was talking to. Oh my god. 230 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: So you get the Trader Joe's Organic peanut butter. 231 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Gretituneberg approved. Good Lord. 232 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: Episode of Eat Rink Smoke is sponsored by the Grateful Dead. 233 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the green circuit. 234 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: The You're right, but you don't like toast your bread first? 235 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: Get it? 236 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Get it a little. 237 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: Hurry, and you just need to pull that bread right 238 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: out of the pantry and make your sandwich. You didn't 239 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: have time for Who has time to toast the bread nowadays? 240 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: That's why I get instant toast. 241 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: So they're coming out with this, and they're coming out 242 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: with the crunchy, and I like the crunchy. But this 243 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: is a precursor story to the big one, which involves 244 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: how is it possible that people who have stumbled upon perfection, 245 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: they found an idea and they delivered it perfectly to 246 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: a moment where America loves it, craves it, and universally, 247 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: regardless of your politics, your religion, your orientation, doesn't matter 248 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: who you are, everyone will go, well, yes. 249 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Please, thank you. 250 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: The Reese's peanut butter cup, which Fingers pronounces Rece's. That's 251 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: not true. Ah, I see what I did to you. Yeah, 252 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: there was a story that the grandson of the founder, right, 253 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: and the stories are everywhere, was started complaining or had 254 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: started complaining that it no longer followed the original recipe. 255 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: That was the take that somehow the recipe change, or 256 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: did the ingredients change. 257 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: He said the ingredients changed, that they weren't using the 258 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: same quality of chocolate that they used to use, if 259 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: I remember correctly, which you know, you and I a 260 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, we did the we thought were 261 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: white chocolate Reese's peanut butter cups. 262 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: It was. 263 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: It was like it was an egg. It was a 264 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: pean peanut peanut butter egg, that's right. 265 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: And they they you look closer at the label and 266 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: didn't say white cream. Yes, And it tasted like a 267 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: Yankee candle. 268 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: It was. 269 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: It was horrifyingly bad. 270 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: But the Reason's peanut butter cup is incredibly perfect. So 271 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: he starts discussing the fact. What is the grandson's name, 272 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: I forget, I forgot his name. 273 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: It's in the race. 274 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm just couldn't remember it anyway. Brad Reese, 275 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: his name is Brad Reese, and he's saying it's not 276 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: the same ingredients. So now Hershey's comes out, which makes 277 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: Reese's peanut butter cups to say, we're going back to 278 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: the original ingredients. 279 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: So you admit that you changed perfection. Can we discuss 280 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: how stupid that is? 281 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: Well, go ahead, but I already know what the answer 282 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: is to this question. Why did they do it? It's 283 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: because two reasons. One, you're cutting every corner. You feel 284 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: like people aren't going to notice the difference if you 285 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: skimp on the ingredients a little bit. And plus, on 286 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: top of it, they had mallow cups snipping at their heels. 287 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: Any CEO who says we increase profits by diminishing the 288 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: thing that gets us the profits is not a worthy ceo. 289 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: You should be fired. 290 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: There is a crazy story. I would love verification. I 291 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: think we may have talked about about Ruby Tuesday. 292 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: So Red no Red Robin. It's about Red Robin the 293 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: Burger place. Did they do the bottomless fries? Yes, okay, 294 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: And that Red Robin was at the top of the 295 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: of the pecking order for the not quick sir, But 296 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: you know quick, these casual type restaurants and the burghers 297 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: were good, and the fries were bottomless, and they were 298 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: incredibly good at tablechurn, moving people through and keeping things 299 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: clean and active. And then somebody came in and said, 300 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: I know how we could save some money and really 301 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: boost profits. 302 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Let's get rid of bus boys. You mean the people 303 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: who clear the tables so the next party can sit down. 304 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: Oh, no, the server will do that. So the server 305 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: is now taking care of the customer, running food, then 306 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: clearing the table, then setting the table. Well, that takes time. 307 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: Now you're losing the amount of people that you can 308 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: turn right, every time you change the seats, you're turning 309 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: over the seats in the restaurant. That's a big thing 310 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: for restaurants. That's what they calculate dollars and cents on. 311 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: So they took away the thing that helped the consumer me, 312 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: you feel like I can quickly get seated. Then they 313 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: took away cleanliness because the two things happened at the 314 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: same time. Then they increased the pressure on the server, 315 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: which meant I got a worse experience, and they fell 316 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: apart fire. 317 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: That guy, how do you do this with something that. 318 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: Everyone to a person outside of those people are like, 319 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: I can't eat peanuts or you know, gluten's bad for you. 320 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to be angry at the people who 321 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: are allergic to peanuts. They're allergic, but the gluten people 322 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: could just stop talking. How how do you do that? 323 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Arrogance? 324 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable arrogance. It's it's all arrogance. And honestly, if 325 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: can you name another peanut butter cups? 326 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Peanut butter cup? 327 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: Right? 328 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: So they have it all right, So someone is sitting 329 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: back with their other fat cat friends saying, oh, what 330 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: are people gonna do? Go get mallow cups? And then 331 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: they start cutting corners. 332 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: By the way, fingers boy did one of the things 333 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: that I object to most. He imitated a fat cat 334 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: as if he was smoking a cigar. No, no, no, 335 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: people who smoke cigars are right, just and decent. I 336 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: will bet you that whoever is running Reese's never had 337 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: a cigar in their life, and if. 338 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: They did, they inhaled. But no, they smoke a cigar 339 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: like this. That's what they do. That's the And for 340 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: those on YouTube, they could see over any drink smoke show. 341 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: Trust me, you don't have to see you. You can 342 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: just picture it your mind's eye. You'll be totally fine. 343 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: Glad They're going back to basics. Go back to basics, 344 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: to the thing that works and gets you the customer tools, Eat, drink, smoke. 345 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: It is your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza. 346 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: On Tony Katz. 347 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: And that right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers 348 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: Molloy smoking the Alec Bradley Safe Keepings and Nicaraguan puro 349 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: toro six by fifty four. 350 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: This, uh fifty two, sorry, six by fifty two. 351 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't kidding. Mine is wrapped tight. You're not having 352 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: this issue, No, not at all mine. I mean you 353 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: could cut you could feel it, and I'm I'm not 354 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: so sure I can open it up. So I'm playing 355 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: a little gingerly with it for fear that I may 356 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: I may get too hot with with this. Right here? 357 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: Are you doing the old pension roll? 358 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: So the old pinchion rolls when you take your thumb 359 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: and your forefinger and you kind of roll the cigar. 360 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: You're kind of trying to break up its back and 361 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: move things around a little bit so you get better airflow, 362 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: a better draw this is this is really tight. Now 363 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: this can like you can actually you don't know if 364 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: you heard that that again? 365 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: Let me see, Hey whoop, that's it, so that back 366 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: goes cracking a little bit. 367 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: You don't want that, right because then you don't want 368 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: air escape, you know, coming in from different direction, changing 369 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 2: the burn and everything like that. But it happens. 370 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: These are hand rolled products, and it's going to happen. 371 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: I know. 372 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't if I got a box and eight of 373 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: them are like this, I'd be furious. I'd go back 374 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: to somebody if one of them is like this in 375 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: every three boxes I smoke, which it's not even that much. 376 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: It does happen, and it's not the end of the world. 377 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: It's just a recognition that you didn't buy something that 378 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: was mass manufactured. You bought something that someone put some 379 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: care into and so but flavor wise, I'm not getting 380 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: overwhelmed by anything you said would and I'm not even 381 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: sure if that's what I get. This is a it's 382 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: gonna sound stupid, but I've said it before. It's a 383 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: pretty clean smoke. 384 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah it is, and that you know, for it being 385 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: a habano, I was expecting some more spice and I'm 386 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: not really getting any of that, no real pepper. It 387 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: was that oh no, uh, that wood, and that hasn't 388 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: really intensified as I've gone through the first third of 389 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: the cigar. Do you want to tell everyone what just happened? 390 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: No, I certainly don't. 391 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: Okay, it plugged up on me. 392 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could have gotten the whole show without without 393 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: talking about it, But it happens. 394 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: I figured it got too hot. 395 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: The tobacco, and it basically kind of got charred, and 396 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: so I gotta empty it out and relight it and 397 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: everything will be fine. 398 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: But that when it gets tight, that does happen. It happens. 399 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: And sometimes it's you're smoking wrong, you're smoking too fast, 400 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: you're making things too hot, and so you'll either get 401 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: that ammonia or you get plugged up. Sometimes it's the cigar. 402 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: These things happen, and you just there are ways to 403 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: work through it. And so right now I'm letting the 404 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: cigar cool down and then I'll get back to it. 405 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: It's all you can do, right at some point, And 406 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: of course you're not going to do it with this 407 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 3: because we're doing a full review of the cigar. But 408 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: when you have a situation like this. How long do 409 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: you give it before you just throw on a towel 410 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: and say, you know what, this is more work than 411 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 3: it should be. 412 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: I need to just grab another side. Well, everybody's different 413 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: from me. If it plugs up three times on the 414 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: third time, like okay, we're not here. Yeah, I've given 415 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: this all that I can do. It's all the patients 416 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: that I that I have for it. But the cigar itself, 417 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's got some solid, simple flavor to it. 418 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: As I said, it's smoking clean. 419 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: I talk about the earth, a little bit of you know, 420 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: maybe there's a slight spice that comes from from wood. 421 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: As you're talking about it there on the middle of 422 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: the tongue. It's an easy going cigar for sure. For sure. 423 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: The question is is it in your humid our fingers maloy? 424 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: For what average is about thirteen dollars a stick. 425 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: I need to get further into the cigar. I'm with you, 426 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: because there's listen, if you just want to sit back 427 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: and relax and not think about any kind of flavor profile, 428 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: you just like, I just need a cigar, and I 429 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: don't give me something and this will pair with everything, right, 430 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: So that's nice. But I think flavor profile wise, I 431 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: would want a little bit more, but I'm still in 432 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: the first third. We'll see how this thing changes. 433 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I'm gonna do. 434 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna be patient, We're gonna take it easy, one 435 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 2: step at a time. It's time Fingers Maloy for news 436 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: of the week. 437 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: So there's a new report out about the American whiskey 438 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: industry Tony. And according to that report, American whiskey exports 439 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: fell by nineteen percent and twenty twenty five, down about 440 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty million dollars. And they're saying the 441 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: reason for that is the uncertainty of over tariffs. 442 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to take some serious objection if that 443 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: is the only reason. This is from the Lexington Herald Leader, 444 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: and I invite Janet Patten wrote the story. 445 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: I invite you. 446 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: Ont's let's break this down a little bit, because no 447 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: one should avoid what is causing the issue. So there'll 448 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: be some people who want to play politically. Oh, we 449 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: can't blame tariffs because let's say they're. 450 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: A Trump supporter. 451 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: And if you have an entire nation of Canada that 452 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: got infuriated with the trade war, and some provinces said 453 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: no more bourbon sales. Other provinces still have bourbon sales, 454 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: although there could be less bourbon buying. But to put 455 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: it as the only reason, I'm not saying part of 456 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: a reason. That's where the objection was. Because we had 457 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: this conversation about six months ago and people came at us. 458 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: We're like, the data is all around you. 459 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Changing habits of younger generations g lp ones, which which 460 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: means with gov zep bound ozempic, those kinds of things. 461 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: It's changing a tremendous amount. 462 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: Of how people act there, they're how they socialize has changed. 463 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: We talked about what's going on in the non alcoholic 464 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: world and non alcoholic uh craft cocktails and and and 465 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: and bars that only do non alcoholic drinks, nevermind groups 466 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: like athletic and others. There are tremendous changes at play, 467 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: just like COVID created tremendous changes because people had free time, 468 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: more cash, and they weren't driving. They're like, let's try bourbon, 469 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: and bourbon went through the roof and you could not 470 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: find a bourbon barrel. 471 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: You could not find anything. 472 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: If you wanted to buy one. 473 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: Fingers, I'm telling you right now. 474 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: Because I've had these conversations. I could say to you, 475 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: let's get in the Fingers mobile and I can point 476 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: you in the direction of four different distilleries where we 477 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: could buy barrels right there today. Wow, they're out there 478 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: because there is a glut. So are the exports down? Absolutely? 479 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: Are the numbers down? 480 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: You bet. 481 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm surprised we haven't seen more smaller distilleries go out 482 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: or get absorbed by larger ones. But if we're going 483 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: to argue that tariffs is the only reason, no, and 484 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: if we're only going to mention tariffs and not discuss 485 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: the other things, that is an absolute disservice to an audience, 486 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: to people curious about what's going on, and it's wrong. 487 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: That's wrong to do if we're not giving the total story. 488 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: So the sale of spirits in general was down two 489 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: point two percent according to a report in twenty twenty five. 490 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: And you kind of outline some of the things that 491 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: we've talked about previously on the show. Younger people aren't 492 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: drinking the GLP one phenomenon where people are drinking less 493 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: because they're on that medication. The one thing that I 494 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: haven't seen a breakdown on is the drinking habits of 495 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: Europeans and have younger Europeans decided that they're turning away 496 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 3: from alcohol as well. I haven't seen any studies on that. 497 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: And also, you know, if there are as many Europeans 498 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: taking GLP one drugs as Americans, which who knows about 499 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: that either. You just don't see these studies. But it's 500 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: interesting to think about what effect it has if it's 501 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: generational in Europe as well. Of course, you know from 502 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: what you're seeing, tariffs do have some impact on what's 503 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: happening here. But are the same things, the same trends 504 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: we're seeing in America when it comes to GLP one 505 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: and younger people not drinking, same thing happening in Europe. 506 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: There doesn't seem to be any data to even look at. 507 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, whether things are down there, I don't know. One 508 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: of the things that the Lexicon Herald Leader discusses is 509 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: that when you take out Canada where exports are down, 510 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: take out Japan, Japan where exports are down. 511 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Everyplace else exports actually rose. Things went up. 512 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: When we talk about US exports twenty twenty five, the 513 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: EU was top at one point two billion. United Kingdom, 514 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: remember it did brexit. It's not part of the European 515 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: Union anymore one hundred and fifty three million, Australia on 516 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight million, Mexico one hundred and twenty 517 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 2: seven million, and Canada is still eighty nine million. They 518 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: account for seventy two percent of US exports. But yes, 519 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: the Canada market is shrunk. I don't know what's going 520 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: on in some of those European markets all I just don't. 521 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: I can't stand when people or anyone people or news 522 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: organizations want to only push out one part of the story. 523 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: It is a part of the story, not deniable, But 524 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: to only push out one part of the story is 525 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: to then be doing something else, and that's a narrative push. 526 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: And I'm not interested in narrative push. I'm interested in 527 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: people getting information. So that's what Fingers and I do. 528 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: We bring you the full story. So true, so true. 529 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: The AI world is now forcing teachers and professors to 530 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: ask questions of their students to see if they know 531 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: the answers turns out that the students lie. That's impossible 532 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: t drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz and that is America's 533 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy, So they do the homework, 534 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: and the homework's like, oh spectacular. The AP has the 535 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 2: story and then they get asked a question and they 536 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: sound like Patrick Starfish from SpongeBob SquarePants. 537 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: Why can't I do a Patrick star Oh? 538 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: Yours is good? 539 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: Where's the homework? 540 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: I forgot my homework? 541 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: Whow Yeah, I'm a regular rich little. 542 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you are a poor man shky green? Wow? 543 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: How's he doing? 544 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: You don't want to know? So they're now asking questions like, hey, 545 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: what's two plus two? See if these kids know anything? 546 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: And I only care. 547 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: That when it comes to learning, when the professor figures 548 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: out that these kids don't know anything, that you fail 549 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: every single one of them. And when the parents complain, 550 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: we spend all this money, how dare you fail our kids? 551 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: And by the way, the shap in high school too, 552 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: explain to the parents that your kid is a schmuck 553 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: who never actually took the class, seriously used AI to 554 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: do all their homework. 555 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: They don't deserve to pass. 556 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't care if you wasted your money, blame your kid, 557 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to pass your loser kid because 558 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: they weren't willing to study. I say, haha, enjoy taking 559 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: my class again next year. Maybe you'll learn how to 560 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: read a book first. That's what should be said narrator. 561 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: That won't actually be said. 562 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh god, no, no, no, no. They'll get lambasted by the administration. 563 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: They'll say, you know what, I'm getting paid, I don't care. 564 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: Everybody gets a C plus. 565 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: They gonna do. 566 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: And then ten years from now, all colleges across the 567 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: country and universities will completely close up shop because people 568 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: will just turn to their phones whenever they need to 569 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 3: learn something right, and they won't actually need to learn it. 570 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: Why should I actually have to go just I'll give 571 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: you the money and then you send me a degree. 572 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: It'll be mail order degrees. It was like how I 573 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: got ordained. 574 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it would be like that, which that should also 575 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: be more serious and social education. But so these professors 576 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: giving the oral exams and stuff. That part doesn't matter. 577 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: It's what happens when you realize that the student is 578 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: a liar. You're twenty years old, be a man or 579 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: a woman, grow up, take responsibility and actually study. 580 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: If you're depending on to get you through, you don't 581 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: need to have the degree. 582 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: We shouldn't give you the degree, even if it's a 583 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: gender studies degree. We shouldn't give you a degree. That's right, 584 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: I did. I apologize for nothing. 585 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting how this unfolds. And what's 586 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: also fascinating is I feel like now it's going to 587 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: make professors actually have to work harder. 588 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: I also approve of this. I approve of that. 589 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they should so easily give out that 590 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: business administration degree that guarantees you no job anywhere. See, 591 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: it's not just about gender studies for me. I'm able 592 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: to I was able to diversify my disgust of degrees 593 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: right there. 594 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: But no, you're gonna have to set each student down 595 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: individually and give oral exams. We have tas well. In 596 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: some cases, the TA runs the class to begin with. 597 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, but this is going to create more work, 598 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: which makes me feel like this is going to be 599 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: this trend of oral exams will be fleeting, you know. 600 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: You know, I really want to know if you know 601 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: all this stuff. But this is going to create more 602 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: work for me. You know what, We'll just go ahead 603 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: and do it the way we use it. 604 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: I already offer two and a half hours of office 605 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: visits a week. 606 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: What I'm supposed to do make it three? No, no, no, 607 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: no no. 608 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: If I wanted to work for a living, i'd be 609 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: in the private sector. Wow, that's right. We are attacking 610 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: professors left and right. Dude, they teach three classes, they 611 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: have two hours of office hours, and I'm supposed. 612 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: To be told that I'm supposed to revere No, now 613 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: tony to be fair? 614 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: Okay, be fair. 615 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: There are people who don't understand talk radio who think 616 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: if you have a three hour show, They're like, oh, 617 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: you're only working three hours a day, And they have 618 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: no idea what they're talking about when. 619 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: They they're doing two hours of office hours a week, 620 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: three hours of office hours. 621 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: That office may not be air conditioned. 622 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: Of course there's air conditions. What what upstart university? 623 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: Are you referring to upstart university? 624 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 625 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: God, they've got a great football team. 626 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: It's enough start, It is enough start. Uh. Now we 627 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: get into what happens when you don't actually take your 628 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: studies seriously. Three women yanked off a plane and arrested 629 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: at the Miami Airport after refusing to pay the extra 630 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: baggage fee. What are you doing? 631 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: I don't use the word hero loosely. Ladies in down, No, 632 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: I don't encourage bum rushing a plane. That's not good, 633 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: But there are some people are tired of being nickeled 634 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 3: and dimed to death. How many times have you gotten 635 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: on a plane and they said, listen, you're only supposed 636 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: to have one carry on, but that other personal bag 637 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: looks like it's a little too big to be a 638 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: personal bag. That's a second carry on, and you thought 639 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 3: to yourself self, let's just bum rush the plane. 640 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: The flight attendant says to these three women, you need 641 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: to pay the extra baggage free. They're like, no, we don't, 642 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: and she's like, yeah, you real, or the flight attendant 643 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: the gate agers like, yeah, you really do. So what 644 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: did these three women do? They're like, forget you, and 645 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: they bum rush the plane. They walk into the restricted 646 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: area that we're just getting on the plane. We don't 647 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: have to listen to you. Seems like a solid plan. 648 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: I can't believe it didn't work. So they get arrested. 649 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: People are are videotaping and they're like, I'm gonna kill you. 650 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna They're screaming, they're yelling, 651 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: and then one woman decides this is a more great 652 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: moment to twork. She's in cuffs being escorted by a 653 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: cop and she's tworking. 654 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: Now she has two hundred and fifty thousand Instagram followngratulations. 655 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to pay that fine. 656 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 3: And just like that girl what was her name, Tiffany Gomes? 657 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: What was it? 658 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Two years ago? 659 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: She was on a plane and she got thrown off 660 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: and she she turned around, she said that m you know, 661 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: so and so is not real and people found out 662 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: who she was, and now she's got I don't know 663 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 3: the three point four million Instagram followers. 664 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: I have no idea what happened to her. 665 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: The only thing I ever thought about her is Number one, Okay, 666 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: she might be crazy. Number two, she's a little hot. 667 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: You wonder how many men out there were like I 668 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: could fix her? 669 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: Right? 670 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: Men don't say that. Men don't look at women are 671 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: like I can fix her. Women look at men and 672 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: say I can fix him. Men. You think there are 673 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: men out there like there are men who are absolutely 674 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: attracted to the whole wounded bird thing. Like they they 675 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: whether they're admitted or not, they totally thrive on the drama. 676 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: They want that world and not that guy. They love 677 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 2: the wounded bird. But you could point to a lot 678 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: more women who are like, oh, I can think, oh absolutely, 679 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: I'll do it. There are I don't have the percentages 680 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: in front of me. 681 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: But we did a study over at the finger Smole 682 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: Institute of Institutes for Institutes. I love that about this 683 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: very subject. And women call those type of men a 684 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 3: fixer upper? 685 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: Is that what they say? 686 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 3: That's what they call him. 687 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what they called them, A fixer rupper? 688 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: Learned it here first? 689 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: Upstart you. 690 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: My mother tells the story that her mother in law, 691 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: my grandmother, rest her soul when marrying. My father looked 692 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: at her and said, don't worry, we can fix them. 693 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: And my mother was like, why would I want to 694 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 2: fix them? I just married him. What do you? 695 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? 696 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: And well that ended the relationship pretty quick. That's a 697 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: true story. That's a true story. Things were things were 698 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: often frosty. I believe it's the is the term that 699 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: the kids use. Frosty is what I will call it. 700 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I don't know how you recover from that. 701 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: I think my mother said, well, you know what, it 702 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: would have been nice to have that relationship. But we'll 703 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: love this relationship instead. What Now people are interesting. 704 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: Man, they are, And now you've got the whole dating 705 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: field right now. It's such a mindfield. 706 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: You know. 707 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: I've always said love is a battlefield, Tony, I've said that. 708 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 3: But you've got pubs in Britain that friends are getting 709 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: up and giving PowerPoint presentations to present their friends to 710 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: other people to show that they're datable. 711 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I actually love that idea. 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You want to go pick it up 755 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: on ourselves? 756 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 2: Sure? Just you and me. 757 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll get the flat beat out. 758 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: Now. I can go with that, Okay, I can work 759 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: with that. 760 00:38:51,840 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: Defiancebeef dot Com. Tequila. 761 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: That zeppelin that is actually a zeppelin in a very 762 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 2: very odd duet with Patsy Klin. Oh how she doing? 763 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: You don't want to know? 764 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: See drink smoke. 765 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker, 766 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: Fingers molloy. And today it is a tequila because right 767 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: now as we're recording, it's the Jewish holiday of Passover, 768 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: which means no wheat and no lemoning or anything like that, 769 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 2: which means there's a fair amount of bourbons that are 770 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: right out for me, right out, and there's a The 771 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 2: question was can you do corn? And the answer is maybe, 772 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: But I said, I'm not going to risk. Fingers said, 773 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 2: don't worry, I got you covered. 774 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: This is the I lollow gave azuol, which would be 775 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: the blue of Gave Tequila. 776 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 2: Blanco right here, coming in at eighty proof forty percent 777 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: alcohol by volume. No applause from fingers. 778 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: I'll say this. 779 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: I mean it's just a basic white label on this, 780 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: a gold in the cap there with a blue and 781 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 2: gold band. I like the shape of the bottle. Yeah, 782 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 2: I like that feels it feels good, like like that's 783 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: very very masculine. Look, my tequila expertise, Fingers from the 784 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 2: wy we're gonna put somewhere around zero. 785 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna put somewhere around zero. 786 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: But you came across this because you were told that 787 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: this is an excellent sip in tequila. Yes. Uh. 788 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 3: The clerk who happened to be at one of my 789 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: favorite liquor stores said, Heyfingers, I gotta tell you, this 790 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: would be a great sip in tequila if you were 791 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 3: going to enjoy it with a fine cigar. 792 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: He told you it was a fine sip in tequila. 793 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: She did, yes, Oh, she hm hmmm. Somebody's bragging. That's right. 794 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: I speak to ladies and they tucked back to me. Uh. 795 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 2: The the amount of tequila we've done on this show 796 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: is is slight, I will admit, but we have had 797 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: some some good results. We've had, We've enjoyed some some 798 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: some good stuff. Uh before uh in in the anejo's 799 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: and the and the and the reposados. Uh So when 800 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: you tell me it's it's a blanco and it's good sipping, 801 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 2: well that's usually I would say, if there's a way 802 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: that people look at it, that's not necessarily the way 803 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: they look at it. They look at that is the 804 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: more lower end of the tequila spectrum. They look at 805 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 2: at the other ones and say, Okay, this is where 806 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: some more richnesses, some more care is taken, et cetera. 807 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 3: I freely admit I know next to nothing about tequila. 808 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 3: And for all I know, the clerk who told me 809 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: that that's good sip in tequila, maybe she has no 810 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 3: idea what she's talking about when it comes to tequila. 811 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 3: All I can do is go by what I was 812 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 3: told Tony, and I think that's really the lesson that 813 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 3: should be learned. Always believe everything people say to you. 814 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 2: It's a good lesson, right there, Well done, Thank you, 815 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 2: well played. So when we talk about blanco, silver, sometimes 816 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: the same thing as blanco, we're talking about something that 817 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: is basically unaged, right, there's no time spent, you know, 818 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 2: cultivating and curating and trying to build up more of 819 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 2: a flavor profile. So when we take a look at 820 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: this first things first looks like water. So it'll pass 821 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: in the office space. Feel free to use it right 822 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: there in front of the boss. 823 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: Oh wow, so you're saying that this is the old 824 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: fifteen minute pick me up? What the old fifteen minute 825 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: pick me up? 826 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 827 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: That's where you take a little bit of a flask 828 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 3: go into the bathroom for a quick pick me up. 829 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: I've never heard that before. I just made it up. 830 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 2: I've also never done that before. Good for you. You 831 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: like your job, that's one of us. Well, it's it's 832 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: a tequila nose. It's actually much smoother than I thought 833 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 2: it was going to be. There's definitely a flowery going 834 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: on there. 835 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 1: It's a nice it's a nice little piece. 836 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 2: I I. 837 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: It's sweeter. 838 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: It's actually a little creamy, a touch, a slight a 839 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: little more than certainly I was not expecting that. I 840 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: was expecting more pungent. I was expecting a level of 841 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 2: of oh, yeah, that's tequila, you know, but this is. 842 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 3: It smells like tequila. What I'm not getting is any 843 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 3: kind of note of alcohol. Oh you mean like an ethanol? 844 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right. 845 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 2: Zero. 846 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: Okay, that is not. 847 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 2: That is not bad at all. 848 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: For the record, I'm doing this because it's passover. We No, 849 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 3: I'm doing this because it's passover. He's doing this because 850 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 3: it's passover. 851 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 2: For me. 852 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 3: That that's but that's why I'm doing it because it's passover. 853 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 3: And Tony said, I can do tequila. Otherwise this is 854 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 3: not usually my jam. And that nothing against tequila drinkers. 855 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 3: God bless you, especially if you're a cigar smoker. A 856 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: lot of people like, hey, I only want tequila with 857 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 3: my cigars. But I we're gonna we're gonna give this 858 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 3: to go Tony. 859 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 2: By the way, Lalo states that they use traditional brick 860 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 2: ovens that produce a slow, consistent cooking process and and 861 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 2: no flavors to there tequila blanco, and they use three 862 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: ingredients fully mature blue ebergave. 863 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: They use champagne yeast. 864 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 3: In caviar dreams. 865 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if the east is an issue for me. 866 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna leave it be. I'm gonna 867 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 2: leave it bee. I'll let my rabbi yell at me 868 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: later and then deep well water. That's what they use. 869 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: This uses. 870 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: Some people only use mid level well water. No, no, no, 871 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: not Lallo the deep way. 872 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: So during passover you're only supposed to drink shallow well water. 873 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: I correct, correct, No, can't have time to rise or 874 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: any depth. Everything has to be flat. You ready for this, yes, fingers, 875 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 2: I believe I've been ready for this all year. There 876 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: you go. 877 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: Look I still you want to go first? No, No, 878 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: it's all you going in with the lalla. 879 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: Uh. This is the tequila blanco right here, coming in 880 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: at eighty proof forty percent alcohol by volume. 881 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: We're doing it neat. 882 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: He's doing what we would do with the bourbon in Kentucky. 883 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: Chew moving around the palate, getting an idea of the flavors. 884 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: And I still believe in the two SIPs methodology. First 885 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: sip to set the taste buds. A second sip. 886 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: Do you really get an idea of flavors. 887 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 3: That a gave is there? It's also got a little 888 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: bit of citrus on top of it. 889 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: Makes sense? 890 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? 891 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: And then uh, it's it's creamy, harsh. No, it's very smooth, 892 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: very enjoyable. It's almost like a melon to it. 893 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: Melon. 894 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 3: Yes, interesting, going again, guys, I don't know what I'm 895 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 3: talking about. 896 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 2: When it comes to tequila. 897 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 3: I can only I can only I can only tell 898 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 3: you what how it strikes me. 899 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: I mean. 900 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: A gave to me. 901 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 3: You know, it has a distinct flavor and I don't 902 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 3: necessarily consider that citrusy. 903 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: You know. 904 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 3: It's one of those things where it's like when you're 905 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 3: having tequila and you said, this is a gave. You know, 906 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: it's like you know it when you taste. 907 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: It, right, But. 908 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 3: That's what I got out of it. I'll be interested 909 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 3: to see what would you have to say about it. 910 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 2: Tonying and going. 911 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: In the lallo la l o uh tequila. This is 912 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: the blanco right here. 913 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what 914 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 3: we like to call it sag gonna swish, Memphis munch, 915 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 3: Chattanooga chomp. 916 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 2: Well, well that is easy. 917 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question it's tequila. And you do 918 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: feel a little heat sent or chest. 919 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that is That is fruity. That is bright 920 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: fruity fruit punch. Really, I'm I'm I am there. So 921 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 2: the melon thing and it's interesting. I don't know if 922 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 2: I call it that but it's it's it's it's it's tropical. Yeah, right, 923 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 2: So that's not coconut, it's not mango, it's not orange. 924 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 2: It's just kind of gives that feel. 925 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: Almost like a tropical fruit blend cocktail, you know, you 926 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 3: know how you get the fruit cup that has the Yeah, but. 927 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: It's there's I mean, there is that that feel. It's 928 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 2: on the on the sides of the tongue, a little 929 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 2: bit of of of punch right there. We'll get more 930 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: into this from lollow Is this in the liquor cabinick. 931 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 2: So we often discussed the fact in doing this show 932 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: right here, that we discuss what's being discussed in the 933 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 2: cigar louage. And we try our best not to be 934 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: political on the show, even though we both come from 935 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: political backgrounds. But here's what's happening. Here's what people were 936 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 2: talking about. It's like, we're talking about the war in Iran. 937 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: How do you not mention the war in Iran? 938 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 1: Of course it is being talked about in a cigar lounge. 939 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 2: It's Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz, that's Fingers Malloy. 940 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: Find everything at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com. On the interwebs 941 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 2: at eatrinksmokeshow dot com, then the Twitter x go Eat 942 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: Drink Smoke, and Instagram Eat Drink Smoke podcast Find us there. 943 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 2: We're on Facebook too, even though Facebook is terrible Eat 944 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 2: Drink Smoke and the YouTube channel Eat Drink Smoke and 945 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 2: anything else Eat Rink Smoke. 946 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 3: Don't forget our MySpace page. 947 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and on Comfy Serf. I think I covered everything, 948 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: but one of the things being discussed is the firing 949 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: of the Attorney. 950 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 2: General, Pam Bondi. So this is kind of a late 951 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 2: breaking news that took place. Allegedly she got fired on 952 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 2: Wednesday night. The news didn't break till Thursday, which gives 953 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: you an idea that this week we're recording a little 954 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: bit later than we normally do. 955 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,240 Speaker 1: But whenever there is a firing. 956 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 2: What happens in media circles is first of all, why, 957 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 2: and then well, this means there's dysfunction and administration. 958 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: Now, I am fingers boy the exact opposite of this. 959 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: When I see an administration that everybody stays on for forever, 960 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 2: waits it out for forever, never questions anything, that to 961 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: me is a signal of dysfunction. No, a tremendous number 962 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: of firings can mean dysfunction. The is there any part 963 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 2: of you, I mean put on the observer hat that 964 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: that you are a guy who has written for the 965 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 2: Washington Times and the things that that you've done. 966 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: Is any of this surprising? 967 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 3: No? I feel like I don't know how deep you 968 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 3: want to get into us. 969 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 2: You can get it. 970 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no, we can talk about all of it. 971 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 2: We'll let other people decide their politics. But what you 972 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: think connected to this? 973 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 3: You could say the words I think, I think that 974 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 3: the handling of the Epstein files is something that disappoint 975 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 3: a lot of people, both on the left and on 976 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 3: the right. You know, that was a main campaign issue 977 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty four election, and the release of 978 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 3: the files, you could say, was a bungling of that. 979 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 3: And now my question is, with her firing, can the 980 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 3: administration take a step back and almost do a reset 981 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 3: on the whole thing. And then whether or not she 982 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 3: was ordered to release it the way that she did 983 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,439 Speaker 3: or much of it was under her control. Either way, 984 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 3: they can create a narrative that if it was under 985 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 3: her control, she bungled it. But if she was ordered 986 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 3: to release it the way that she did. They could 987 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 3: also throw her under the bus and say oh, she 988 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 3: bungled it, and then have the new attorney general come 989 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 3: in and say, Okay, this is everything, because there's something 990 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 3: that I believe still three million files. 991 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 2: I don't know the number. The new pick for Attorney 992 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 2: General is Lee Zelden. Lee Szelden is the EPA administrator. 993 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: Lee Zelden ran for governor in New York. He's a 994 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 2: congressman from New York. He's a very, very competent guy, 995 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 2: and I believe that he will easily be confirmed to 996 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 2: this position considering the position he already. 997 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 1: Holds when it comes to the Epstein files. 998 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 2: Just for a full disclosure on fingers and eye from 999 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: the beginning, from word one, release everything. Yeah, there was 1000 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 2: never a question our and we never actually we've never 1001 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 2: actually discussed this. But I've heard you talk about this 1002 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 2: on some of your other shows, The Snark Factor, which 1003 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,240 Speaker 2: you do for your radio show there out in Detroit. 1004 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 2: I've talked about this on my nationally syndicated show. There 1005 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 2: is no world where we accept the idea that children 1006 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 2: can be abused and sex trafficked and we don't want 1007 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 2: people brought to justice. Don't care about your last name, 1008 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 2: don't care about your political party, don't care if I 1009 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: don't win the next election. People who abuse children need 1010 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 2: to go to jail. It is a basic concept. And 1011 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: absolutely when Pam Bondi came in as the AG, she 1012 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 2: was the replacement for his Trump's first pick, which was 1013 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 2: then former Congressman Matt Gates. And what we what I 1014 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 2: said at the time is Pambondy ran the shop in Florida. 1015 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 2: She's outrageously competent. 1016 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: I was thrilled. 1017 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 2: And then it all went to crap and the the 1018 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna give influencers this first look at the Epstein 1019 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 2: files and they're there waving these these white binders. Look 1020 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 2: at all the information we have. There was no information 1021 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 2: in there. Release everything. And I think the administration handled 1022 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 2: things wrong. And I will also, I'll speak for your 1023 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 2: fingers just for a moment. You chime in as you choose. 1024 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: There is not a single part of me, you know, 1025 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 2: I'll let you talk for you. There's not a single 1026 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,399 Speaker 2: part of me based on any piece of information we've 1027 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 2: gotten that bruce that Donald Trump did anything wrong. Regarding 1028 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 2: the Epstein files, as a matter of fact, it shows 1029 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 2: that everything he did was these people are sick and crazy, 1030 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 2: and calls to the Palm Beach authorities and others, you 1031 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: have to look into them. There is nothing that shows 1032 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: that Trump did anything wrong. I know that there are 1033 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 2: people politically who want to call him names and attack him, 1034 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 2: and look what he did, and he look who he's protecting. 1035 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 2: Not releasing the files was a giant mistake. Making people 1036 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 2: say this isn't a big deal. 1037 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: Was a giant mistake. 1038 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 2: Mistake and a misread of where his own base was, yes, 1039 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: in a huge way, which he doesn't do. No, no 1040 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 2: matter what your thoughts on Trump, misreading his base is 1041 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 2: not really one of those things that he makes a 1042 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: mistake on. But I've called for the release. I'm on 1043 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 2: the record since day zero, and I think I think 1044 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 2: you are too. 1045 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. In fact, one of the things that I 1046 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 3: think has angered his base a lot is the fact 1047 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 3: that it wasn't just we're not going to release everything, 1048 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: but it's actually a hoax. Uh you know That's that's 1049 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 3: something that really angered a lot of people portraying it 1050 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 3: that way. I'm a firm believer that if there was 1051 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 3: something really in there that would implicate Donald Trump as 1052 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 3: you know, a pedophile or whatever the narrative is. First 1053 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 3: of all, if that's true, he should be in jail. 1054 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 3: But secondly, I feel like that information would have been 1055 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 3: selectively released a long time ago. 1056 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 2: That's my take. And I don't care if your bill gates. 1057 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 2: I don't care if you were on the plane, if 1058 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: you were on the island, and if you did anything jail, 1059 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 2: don't care who you are. I think that your initial 1060 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 2: reaction to this is the one that makes the most sense, 1061 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 2: all things being political, and this is how we should 1062 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 2: look at it in its more general sense. The removal 1063 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 2: of Bondy, the installation of Lee Seldon allows the administration 1064 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 2: to say clean slate, here's everything. 1065 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 1: It does allow them to pin it all on Bondy 1066 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: and make her escapegoat. 1067 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 2: And there's a part of me that feels awful for 1068 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 2: her when this happens, because I think you're that correct, 1069 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 2: that's how it's going to go. Because if it doesn't 1070 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 2: go that way, well, then there that's certifiable. That's a 1071 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 2: mistake on a mistake, and that is two massive self 1072 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 2: inflicted wounds that make no sense. But I can't tell 1073 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 2: you how much of this is BONDI screwing it up 1074 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 2: and how much of this is BONDI getting a top 1075 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 2: down level of order from not necessarily Trump, but as 1076 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 2: Susie Wilds, the chief of staff for others. 1077 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 3: We'll just have to wait for her book to come out. 1078 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 3: I hate the people who write books, but you know 1079 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:19,439 Speaker 3: what's coming. 1080 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 2: I hate the people who write book. 1081 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 3: If they throw her under the bus and it wasn't 1082 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 3: her fault, listen either way, the book is coming out. 1083 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 3: But if they throw her under the bus and she 1084 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 3: was only following orders, she's going to be a darling 1085 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 3: on legacy media. And also the book deal is going 1086 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 3: to be something else. 1087 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 2: The the I was I was gonna ask, uh, I 1088 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 2: was gonna ask an improper question about Pam Budley. I'm 1089 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 2: not gonna do I'm not going I'm not going to 1090 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 2: do it. No, no, no. Uh. 1091 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: Do you think she saw it coming? 1092 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,280 Speaker 2: Do you think she walked into the olbum was shocked 1093 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 2: As opposed to Christynoman, who had to know what was coming. 1094 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 3: I have to believe, you know, probably she's probably known 1095 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 3: for a month or so that this was on the 1096 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 3: verge of happening. 1097 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 2: Oh you, I didn't. 1098 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't think you're at this level and not no, 1099 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: with then is up, Eat Drink smoke. It is your 1100 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: cigar bourbon foody extravaganza. 1101 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. That's Fingers Molloy, Eat drinksmokeshow dot com. 1102 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 2: We are smoking from Alec Bradley. By the way, I 1103 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 2: got my cigar back up and running, bumped up just 1104 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: once and after that we were easy. This is the 1105 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 2: safe keepings Nicaraguan pure wrapper, binder and filler. My cigar 1106 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 2: was wrapped very tight and so it did create some 1107 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 2: issues with the draw. I did use my little poker 1108 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 2: here which we do sell at Eat Drink Smoke the 1109 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 2: shop and soon Eat drinksmokeshow dot com. 1110 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: And from the cap end that's where you cut. 1111 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 2: Poke some holes in it right, try and open things 1112 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 2: some things up, get some better airflow, get a better draw. 1113 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 2: And it has been solid mostly burning even and yeah, 1114 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 2: solid and good comes in about thirteen dollars a stick. 1115 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 2: We're doing the Toro six by fifty two. I there 1116 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: is no flavor movement in the cigar. 1117 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 3: No listen for me. I haven't had any issue at 1118 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 3: all with the cigar to construction, burning pretty evenly. I 1119 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 3: would want more in the flavor profile than what I'm 1120 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 3: getting it hasn't changed at all, and that's fine. If 1121 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 3: a scar cigar stay is consistent throughout the whole stick, 1122 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 3: that's not my problem. But for me, there hasn't been 1123 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 3: really a lot there. There's not really a lot of spice. 1124 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 3: There's no pepper, there's no there's a little bit of ceedar. 1125 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: It's clean, and I think the cedars what's bringing the spice. 1126 00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 3: And it's very slight. 1127 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 2: There's a slow build up on the mid tongue, and 1128 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: that is it clean is the word I use, and 1129 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 2: I think that is the right word. 1130 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 3: So I guess there's nothing wrong with that. And especially 1131 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 3: if you want something that you can pair with everything, 1132 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 3: and it'll go with coffee, bourbon, this is a cigar 1133 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 3: that will play well with all of those. 1134 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 2: So at thirteen dollars a stick, I actually do think 1135 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: this would show up in some humid oors. I would 1136 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 2: say yes, I would say, yeah, thirteen dollars. It's smoke. 1137 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 2: It's smoking nice and easy now fingers smokes fast. Yeah, 1138 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 2: And we talk about this a lot. This isn't this 1139 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 2: isn't smoking fast. This is smoking easy. Remember we've got 1140 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 2: other breaks and we're still smoking in between that stuff. 1141 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of good here. 1142 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 2: The fact that mine was wrapped tight as it's a 1143 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: handmade product, don't forget fingers has no issues. I think 1144 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 2: for thirteen dollars, this is a cigar that when you're 1145 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 2: not looking to be overwhelmed in anyway, you might like that. 1146 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: But good, that's what I want. I don't want the 1147 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: other things that other things hit me wrong. 1148 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 2: This would just be nice so I could be participatory 1149 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 2: and enjoy without having to do too much work or thinking. 1150 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 3: I also think it's good to have in your humid 1151 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 3: or if you have somebody coming over that says, hey, 1152 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,439 Speaker 3: I would like to try cigar. I'm not a cigar 1153 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 3: smoking right. This would be something you could hand them 1154 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 3: and say, this is something you could enjoy and if 1155 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: you like it, but you maybe are looking for something 1156 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 3: with a little bit more in the way of spice 1157 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 3: or coffee or you know, chocolate or whatever, you can 1158 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 3: you know, go into something else. This would be a 1159 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 3: good bass cigar for a newbie. 1160 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: I had said earthy, because you know, there was there 1161 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 2: was a little bit of a cream sweetness kind of 1162 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: kind kind of thing, just a slight there's a little 1163 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 2: bit of spice build up as as I said, I 1164 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 2: like that idea just for those of you who do 1165 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 2: smoke cigars to get an idea what I mean by 1166 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 2: how monotone this is. And I'm not saying that in. 1167 00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: A bad way. 1168 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 2: I I've had connecticuts that dance more than this. I've 1169 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 2: had connecticuts that have more flavor, maneuvering and punch than 1170 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 2: this here. So the fact that it's it's you know, 1171 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Nikarau went throughout the fact that it's I believe Hamano 1172 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 2: plays easy. 1173 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 3: Here's where I would give one word of warning about 1174 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 3: the cigar is if you are having issues maintaining it, 1175 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 3: if you're having a hard time keeping it lit, you 1176 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,959 Speaker 3: really have to be careful with this because we've talked 1177 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 3: previously on the show about if you get to the 1178 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 3: point where you get really impatient with your cigar and 1179 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 3: you keep lighting it and it overheats and you get 1180 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 3: that kind of ammonia flavor to it. I think it 1181 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 3: would be much easier to get a hint of ammonia 1182 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 3: out of this because there's not a lot going on 1183 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 3: besides the faint flavor notes that we've talked about, to 1184 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 3: where that ammonia will be easier to pick up and 1185 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 3: maybe last a little bit longer for you on the palette. 1186 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 2: So I'm a yes to the cigar. I am the 1187 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Alec Bradley Safe Keepings. Now I ask for this tequila 1188 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 2: the Alaalo here. This is the blanco, a tequila forty 1189 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: percent alcohol by volume. I'm not enough of a tequila 1190 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 2: guy to know. And the more we do this show, 1191 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 2: and the more we've tried things, I think I certainly 1192 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 2: I am not somebody in the blanco category. I want 1193 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 2: things that have some more time and expression from wood 1194 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: and things like that and really kind of dig in 1195 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 2: a little bit. So I have no way to rank 1196 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 2: this When I look at this and you know, is 1197 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 2: this in your liquor cabinet for what I believe is 1198 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 2: forty five dollars a bottle? Yeah? It is this in 1199 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 2: your liquor cabinet for forty five dollars a bottle? And 1200 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 2: the answer is I wish I could tell you. I don't. 1201 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: It's not in mind because I think about I was 1202 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 2: gonna go tequila hunting. I'd really need to spend a 1203 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 2: lot of time time tequila hunting to find where i'd 1204 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 2: want to be. Yeah, I don't think it's bad if 1205 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 2: you're a tequila person, tell us what do where should 1206 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 2: we be on this? Is this in a liquor cabinet 1207 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 2: for forty five dollars I think presentation wise though, I 1208 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 2: think it's beautiful. I think it's really well done. I 1209 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 2: think it's a great bottle. 1210 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will say that there's no harshness to 1211 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 3: its very smooth. There's like a creaminess to it. That 1212 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 3: agave is there. I got a little hint of citrus 1213 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 3: and maybe some melon on the finish, but this is 1214 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 3: not something I would reach for at a liquor store. 1215 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,479 Speaker 3: I appreciate the people who really enjoy tequila. I would 1216 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 3: be interested to hear their opinions on it. If you 1217 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 3: if you have enjoyed this in the past, let's know 1218 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 3: on social media Facebook, Instagram, MySpace. 1219 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Let us know. I'd be curious. Let us move on, 1220 01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 2: fingers below. 1221 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Okay, we've made it, We've made our choices. It's time 1222 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: for news of the week, so Tony. 1223 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 3: As of this week, United Airlines is rolling out a 1224 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 3: tracker in its mobile app that provides passengers with estimated 1225 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 3: TSA wait times for both security and TSA pre check lanes. 1226 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 3: Which how has this not happened well before. What has 1227 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 3: been going on with TSA? 1228 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. So the airline now tells you how 1229 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 2: long the lines are. 1230 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I don't know. 1231 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 3: But my question is how has it taken this long 1232 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 3: to be able to give you that? 1233 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Let me go back at you. 1234 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 2: What does this do for me? What does it do 1235 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 2: for you? What does me? 1236 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Well, when you are flying, say out of Chicago, and 1237 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 3: you're hearing that it could be a five hour delay 1238 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 3: at TSA, it would be nice to be able to 1239 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 3: open up an app and say, oh goodie, it's only 1240 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 3: three and a half hours. 1241 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I'm gonna ask the question it helps me 1242 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: with my planning? Is that what it does? 1243 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 3: Listen, maybe you enjoy sitting several hours in an airport's line. First, 1244 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 3: For some of us, in our zubaz pants and tank tops, 1245 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 3: it's very uncomfortable being in line that long. So it's 1246 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 3: nice to hear that they are starting to get with 1247 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six technology and saying, you know, we can 1248 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 3: actually track this, but I don't know what. 1249 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 2: I do with it. It determines when I get to 1250 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 2: the airport. Is it something's supposed to make me feel better? 1251 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 2: Like United actually cares about me. 1252 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, no, you get to the airport, wean the puke. 1253 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Out of the seat, then I'll know you care about me. 1254 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 3: You've really unit has always been fine to me. I 1255 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 3: was gonna say, fine, you see sawdust on the right seat. 1256 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 2: There, And turns out I walk into a plane and 1257 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 2: the whole thing is Roadhouse and Patrick Swayze's come back 1258 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 2: to life. 1259 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: And then there's Ben Gazzara. 1260 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 2: And you know he's up to no good. 1261 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 3: And then Frank Griffin, Peter Griffin. 1262 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: Wow, Frank Stallone, Peter Griffin. I want. 1263 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 3: I combined Frank Drebbin with Peter Griffin and I got 1264 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 3: Frank Griffin. 1265 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Frank Dreben is the Naked Gun movies. It's 1266 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 2: Leslie Nielsen. 1267 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 3: Police Squad in color. So but you show up at 1268 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 3: the airport based on how long you think security. So 1269 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 3: let's say let's say I was going to take a 1270 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 3: flight on on on a Sunday. I would show up 1271 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 3: to the airport four months early. I figure that's how 1272 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 3: long it's gonna take me. 1273 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I just don't know what I win, like, like there, 1274 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: what are they doing for me? You want to do 1275 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 1: something for me? 1276 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 2: Don't dug me? For the extra bag and give you 1277 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 2: a slice of sparrow. Oh you know what, No, no peanuts, 1278 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 2: just pizza. Hand out slices of pizza. Sorrow, maybe a 1279 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 2: Stromboli that would help United air Ones. Fingers mLOY got 1280 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 2: a cast iron skillet, and he is confused. 1281 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Who wants to help them? 1282 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 2: Anyone see drink smoke on Tony Katz That is Fingers Maloy. 1283 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 2: And after I don't know, being an adult for a 1284 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 2: long time, Fingers mLOY finally broke down and went to 1285 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 2: the local TJ Max and found a cast iron skillet. 1286 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: Yes are you? Are you sneaking more snacks? 1287 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1288 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 3: I was just gonna tell you. The reason why is 1289 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 3: because I'm on the carnivore diet. 1290 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 2: So you decided you'd have some chocolate covered snacks right 1291 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 2: there because you're on the carnivore. 1292 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 1: Dieting, which is why you got the cast iron skillet. 1293 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: The problem with Fingers is is that never mind this, 1294 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 2: this is well, there are many problems with Fingers. 1295 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't have the time. 1296 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 2: The issue that he's having for those who are cast 1297 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 2: iron skill at people is that he's new to the 1298 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 2: cast iron world. So he's concerned that if he's adding 1299 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 2: if he's let's say he's gonna make a stake, it's 1300 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 2: gonna make a sirloin. It's gonna make a sirloin steak 1301 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 2: in the cast iron. He wants to make sure he 1302 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 2: has enough oil so he gets a good seer. But 1303 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 2: he's worried about things sticking, so he's adding too much oil, 1304 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 2: and so he has a concern that's he's using too 1305 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 2: much and where's the proper medium. 1306 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,959 Speaker 1: And I think that your problem is that you fear 1307 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: things sticking. That's weird. Why would that be? Why why 1308 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: would you fear it? 1309 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 3: It's a new pan that okay, you buy it, it's 1310 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 3: pre seasoned, but yet you still have to go through 1311 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 3: the seasoning process. 1312 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: Right, it comes from the factory. 1313 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 3: You've got to wash it properly to get the factory 1314 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 3: filth off of it, and then add some oil for 1315 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 3: the first time, you know, season But then because you're 1316 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 3: worried about you know, it's it's still brand new. From 1317 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 3: what I've been told, the first few cooks, you could 1318 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 3: really screw up the surface of it because it's you know, 1319 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 3: you're just starting to build up the seasoning to the 1320 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 3: to the to the pans, so it could. 1321 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: End up being uneven. 1322 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 3: I'm a little Yeah, I shouldn't have had the snacks. 1323 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 3: I was dedicated to the bit so uh so I 1324 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 3: have been really concerned about making sure that it's seasoned properly, 1325 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 3: and I didn't want I've cooked a couple of surloins 1326 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 3: in it so far, and I think I'm adding way 1327 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 3: too much oil because I've been so concerned about the 1328 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 3: steak sticking that man, I've pressed down on that steak 1329 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 3: in the cast iron pan and it the sear has 1330 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 3: not been good to where I think I'm putting way 1331 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 3: too much oil in it. So when you cook a 1332 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 3: steak and your cast iron skillet, how much. 1333 01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Oil do you put in? And what kind of oil 1334 01:08:59,320 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 1: do you use? 1335 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 2: So I most often because it's there as olive oil. Yeah, 1336 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 2: and then I just it's by eye. What's what's a 1337 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 2: basic coating? I can always add more if I need more, 1338 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 2: but I don't care. The sticking doesn't bother me because afterwards, 1339 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 2: after I'm done. 1340 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 1: With the steak and you were discussing this. 1341 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 2: Immediately onions are going in and I'm going to basically 1342 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 2: do my own level of deglaze, and those little bits 1343 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 2: are gonna come up in the fly. I don't. I 1344 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 2: don't even add salt and pepper to when I do 1345 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 2: onions now because everything that I've got from the steak, 1346 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,599 Speaker 2: everything that's in there, that's going. 1347 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: To flavor it, and it's been tremendous perfect in that way. 1348 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 3: So what I've been doing the first couple of times 1349 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 3: is I'll make the serline steak and uh, I get 1350 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 3: the internal temperature about one thirty Okay, I'll pull it off. 1351 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 3: Let it rest for at least five minutes. Okay, yeah, well, Sirline, 1352 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 3: you don't want to get crazy. You figure it'll bump 1353 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 3: to one thirty five maybe as it's rest. 1354 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 2: What do you do? 1355 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 3: You cook it longer? I don't use the thermometer. I 1356 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,920 Speaker 3: do it by touch. Oh well, aren't you something well fancy. Yeah, 1357 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 3: I use a thermometer because I don't want to screw 1358 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 3: it up. Okay, so fine. But then what I like 1359 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 3: to do in the same pan is immediately start frying 1360 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 3: some eggs. 1361 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 1362 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 3: You love this, Yeah, the whole steak and eggs thing, 1363 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 3: because that when you're doing any kind of carnivorchido. You 1364 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 3: could do a salad, but man, there's something about the egg, 1365 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 3: yolk in that egg or the egg oak in that 1366 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 3: that steak. That just does it for me. And so 1367 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 3: the last couple of times I put the eggs in 1368 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 3: and there's so much oil it's almost like I'm boiling 1369 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 3: a fried egg. 1370 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too much oil. Yeah, I think I think 1371 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 2: you're just making the bottom of the pan glimmer. If 1372 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 2: I if you're asking me how much, OK, because I 1373 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 2: can add some oil as I go along, But if 1374 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 2: you're talking about where I start, how much you're making 1375 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 2: the bottom of the pan glimmer. And then when when 1376 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 2: you put the steak on, is there an immediate sizzle. 1377 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,640 Speaker 2: If there's not an immediate sizzle, that pan is not 1378 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 2: hot enough well, and that it's going to create all 1379 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 2: sorts of issues. 1380 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 3: So from what I've seen, you want it on medium 1381 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 3: heat because the cast iron will heat up a lot 1382 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 3: hotter than you would expect it to because it's right right. 1383 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 3: So I have it on medium heat. I don't even 1384 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 3: mess with it for a good five minutes, and I've 1385 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 3: got a gas stove, so it's instant heat. And then 1386 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,600 Speaker 3: I'll take a couple of drops of water hit it. 1387 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 3: Once you see it, you know, popping up in the 1388 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 3: air like that, like it just don't care. Then that's 1389 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 3: when I throw the oil in and then I throw 1390 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 3: the steak on. So but it's obvious at this point 1391 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 3: from our conversation that I'm putting way too much oil in. 1392 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 2: I think so, I absolutely because you can add. You 1393 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 2: can add to it later, but I would start there. 1394 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 2: What what what creates a. 1395 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Shine at the bottom of the of the cast iron? 1396 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 1: Then after so when you are. 1397 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 3: Say you got a ribbi in the pan, do you 1398 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,920 Speaker 3: throw butter in there and then do the whole spooning 1399 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,680 Speaker 3: the butter on top of the steak as you. 1400 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 2: Can? I don't. 1401 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 1: I have to be making it just for myself to 1402 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 1: do that. 1403 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 2: If it's for the family, there's definitely no butter that's 1404 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 2: going to be connected to it. You can, I think 1405 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 2: you can do good work at night and then if 1406 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 2: you've got herbs in. 1407 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,240 Speaker 3: There, rosemary and stuff. I'm not that guy, although I 1408 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 3: did last night. 1409 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 2: I was at a friend's place and they smoked an 1410 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 2: eight pound rib roast and they they crosshatched it, just 1411 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,520 Speaker 2: salt on the crust and then added time and rosemary, 1412 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 2: and it came out smoked, brilliant, just absolutely brilliant, spectacular. 1413 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Uh so. 1414 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,600 Speaker 3: You can do that methodology. So how much do you 1415 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 3: how much do you use that pan? Like you make 1416 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 3: cornbread in it? Do you make every itizza. 1417 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,719 Speaker 1: Everything in the world. 1418 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 2: Cornbread gets made in that pan, Chalk chip cookies get 1419 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 2: made in that pen. Oh, chicken crispy chicken thighs get 1420 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 2: made in that pen. And then after they've crisped over 1421 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 2: the heat into the oven to bake off absolutely everything, everything, 1422 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 2: everything with that pen. 1423 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 3: I'm amazed at how passionate people are about cast iron 1424 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 3: and how controversial cast iron pans can be as far 1425 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 3: as oh, stay away from this brand because it has 1426 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 3: kind of a rough texture on the surface where people 1427 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 3: are smoothing out the surface because there's there's texture on it. 1428 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 3: You know, It's amazing how passionate people get over frying pants. 1429 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 3: It's not a frying pan, it's everything. 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