WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show -  Grayson Allen Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the Mac and Bone Show, Sports Radio 92.7

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<v Speaker 2>WFNZ in the Queen City of Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>Mac and Bone with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hornets Media Days joined by a new member of the Hornets,

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<v Speaker 2>but he knows all about this state. He knows what

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<v Speaker 2>makes it tick. He knows about the state's love of basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Grayson Allen, now on your Charlotte Hornets. Grayson,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing, man?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>So does it mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Something to come back to North Carolina after your time

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<v Speaker 2>at Duke?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a cool– I know the most important thing

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<v Speaker 2>probably is who you're playing with, how do they play,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I fit in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But, like, in the state of North Carolina, is

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<v Speaker 1>that a cool thing?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's definitely really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>And I come back here every summer too, not to Charlotte, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>but to Durham and Duke. And so I definitely still

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<v Speaker 4>feel connected to the state of North Carolina. So it

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<v Speaker 4>is cool to be back at kind of like a

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<v Speaker 4>second home.

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<v Speaker 5>So initially all the Duke fans are fired up. We

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<v Speaker 5>got Grayson here, and obviously– the anti-Duke crowd, the anti-Grayson crowd,

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<v Speaker 5>the UNT fans, they say, oh, we got to root

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<v Speaker 5>for Grayson now. But how long do you think, though,

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<v Speaker 5>it'll take to be fully embraced by the fan base

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<v Speaker 5>once they see what you're about on the NBA court?

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<v Speaker 1>First three? It better be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, you know, I think this question has

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<v Speaker 4>come up at every NBA team I've played for now

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<v Speaker 4>because it always seems to be a split crowd, but...

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go out. I'll play hard. I want us to

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<v Speaker 3>win and be successful.

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<v Speaker 4>And the way I play is I try to contribute

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<v Speaker 4>towards that. And I think people who are fans of

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<v Speaker 4>the team... end up appreciating that. How long it takes them,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure, but I do think once it's all

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<v Speaker 4>said and done, they end up appreciating my effort for

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<v Speaker 4>the team.

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<v Speaker 1>It better be quick, man.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're all on the same page now. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're on the other teams and they booge at you,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help with that one, but now they got

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<v Speaker 2>to get your back, and I do feel like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the fit is good. You can speak to that,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously this team loves shooters. They love space in

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<v Speaker 2>the floor. You can attack a little bit of a closeout, too,

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to shoot. Like, do you kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>that way too? Like this is, this is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>good fit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Um, you know, we have a, we have a team

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<v Speaker 4>that is extremely deep and talented and we have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of guys that can do multiple things. Like even

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<v Speaker 4>with the, the shooting that we have and we have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of elite shooting, we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>guys that do more than just shoot and we're not,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have a lot of one dimensional guys on

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<v Speaker 4>the team. So, um, it makes it very fun to

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<v Speaker 4>play basketball that way. Uh, I know, Since I've gotten here,

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<v Speaker 4>Coach Charles has been talking about playing fast, fast, fast,

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<v Speaker 4>kicking the ball up, and they played with an extreme

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<v Speaker 4>pace last year. But with the skill set of the

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<v Speaker 4>whole team, the amount of shooting, the amount of different

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<v Speaker 4>playmakers we have, that speed to the game is so

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<v Speaker 4>much fun.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been around the league for a long time now.

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<v Speaker 5>How excited should fans be that Charles Lee on the

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<v Speaker 5>coaching side, Jeff Peterson on the front office side, are

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<v Speaker 5>in charge of the operation right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've known Charles for... a few years now. Um,

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<v Speaker 4>I was with him in Milwaukee for two years. Um,

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<v Speaker 4>he's very, very smart coach, uh, very good at connecting

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<v Speaker 4>to the guys. Um, and I think from, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't around him as a head coach, but from

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<v Speaker 4>what I saw that last, last year with this team

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<v Speaker 4>and from what I've seen this summer from being on

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<v Speaker 4>the team and being on the inside, I think he's

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<v Speaker 4>a tremendous coach.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think his vision and his.

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<v Speaker 4>Outlook for the team is, very well aligned with the

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<v Speaker 4>team and the roster that they have brought in this summer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's there.

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<v Speaker 4>We as players have got to execute his vision and

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<v Speaker 4>play well for him.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking with Grayson Alm, now a member of your

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte Hornets. So, you know, you see my partner in crime,

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<v Speaker 2>where's the Ducat? You know, he's talking to you and

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<v Speaker 2>Khan today. So he's definitely wants you to know. Three

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<v Speaker 2>members of the Brotherhood all hanging out together, right? Wants

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<v Speaker 2>you to know he's in the Brotherhood. And I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>he said something to you when you got here. He

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<v Speaker 2>shook your hand and said thanks for the championship. And

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<v Speaker 2>I made note, oh, damn, yeah, he couldn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>to Khan, as great as he is. Do you hold

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<v Speaker 2>that over Khan at all, or is that an un-Brotherhood

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do, to like say– I got the hardware.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you not do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't hold it over him at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I think something that I do realize from being there

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<v Speaker 4>for four years is winning the national championship and getting

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<v Speaker 4>to that final game and winning it is so damn hard.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of luck involved. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>skill involved. There's a lot of playing great basketball at

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<v Speaker 4>the right time involved. I really, really enjoyed watching Khan's

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<v Speaker 4>team when they were there and I think they had

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<v Speaker 4>the ability, the talent to do it. You have a

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<v Speaker 4>couple different bounces of the ball. A shot goes in here.

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<v Speaker 4>One doesn't go in there. It's a completely different story.

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<v Speaker 4>I will never hold that over anybody, especially after my

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<v Speaker 4>four years and some of the teams that we had

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<v Speaker 4>that lost way earlier than expected. I had a team

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<v Speaker 4>that went further than people probably expected.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the way it works.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think of the current state of the

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<v Speaker 5>game where all these fifth-year guys are playing now and

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<v Speaker 5>there's some guys I think that came out with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, not, not, not quite that old. If we start

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<v Speaker 4>doing that, we'll have some real issues. Um, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a completely different landscape of college basketball than when

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<v Speaker 4>I played. So, um, you know, I almost feel too

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<v Speaker 4>far removed to even comment on it now, even though

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<v Speaker 4>it's been, well, this is eight years now. Um, But

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<v Speaker 4>it just feels that different. And going back to Duke

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<v Speaker 4>the last few summers and kind of realizing how different

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<v Speaker 4>the entire landscape of college basketball is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not the same thing as when I was

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<v Speaker 4>recruited and went to school and anything. I'm not having

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<v Speaker 4>the same college experience as those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have NIL envy or are you all right?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>I ended up good now. There's obviously the thought of like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what if? I wonder what the 2015 to 2018 NIL

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<v Speaker 4>market would have been like.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially with that championship, you could ask for more. Talking

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<v Speaker 2>about your college career, You know, it's no secret there

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<v Speaker 2>was a bunch of controversy that involved you, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>on the court. And, my Lord, we talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>on the show nationally. I mean, you turn on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>You're young, man, going through that. Did that stuff bother you?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the way people kind of all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>you're a villain and you're at Duke, so people.

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<v Speaker 3>Already want to get you.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that stuff bother you as young as you were

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<v Speaker 1>or did.

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<v Speaker 3>It really not bother you?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it definitely bothered me. But I think there's like

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<v Speaker 4>two parts to it. And I think the one part

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<v Speaker 4>is that, like, I was not. built, like I, I

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<v Speaker 4>played like, but I wasn't built like, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean? Like I didn't have, like, I didn't, I

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't have it in me not.

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<v Speaker 3>To like care as much.

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<v Speaker 4>Um, and I just wasn't, wasn't built to just like

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<v Speaker 4>play into the hate and use it to fuel me

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<v Speaker 4>and all those things. And so I think that part

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<v Speaker 4>bothered me, but another part that bothered me was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I realized that like the stuff that I did was

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<v Speaker 4>super immature. And so it almost felt like some of

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<v Speaker 4>the hate was justified and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Made it tougher to deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Um, nah, I, you know, if you're being objective and

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<v Speaker 4>looking back on it, the, the level of it was

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<v Speaker 4>so extreme and not justified, but some of it was. Um,

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<v Speaker 4>so I, I think a combination of those things bothered me, but, um, Man,

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<v Speaker 4>some of the games, the atmosphere, because of Duke and

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<v Speaker 4>because of me being college basketball's most hated, were wild,

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<v Speaker 4>wild to play in looking back at.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, did you ever talk to, like, when I think

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<v Speaker 2>of guys that maybe, I'm not going to use your quote,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was great, but, like, guys that maybe just said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>bring it on.

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<v Speaker 1>Leitner.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>J.J.

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<v Speaker 2>Redick, to a degree, seemed like he might. Like, did

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to those guys about dealing with it?

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<v Speaker 4>I talked to JJ a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And me and JJ are different people. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it helped me very much. Because he

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<v Speaker 4>was probably like, oh, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I love JJ. And we've had many conversations.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the time, I don't know if it helped

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<v Speaker 4>me that much just because he, I think he just

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<v Speaker 4>loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And he played into it a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to do at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good, honest answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I kind of bone feel bad for when we're criticizing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you still did the things, and you just

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<v Speaker 2>said it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like his public defender. If you ever get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble, this guy's an attorney.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to get so mad at Seth Greenberg because

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<v Speaker 5>he would ask. He would come on like you were

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<v Speaker 5>Charles Manson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we're playing basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, there's such a middle line, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>the one end of the people who acted like I

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<v Speaker 4>was the worst person in the world, and then there's

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<v Speaker 4>the other end of the people who acted like I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't do anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>That might have been you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the reality was somewhere in the middle, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But Greenberg would act like, all right, settle down, Greenberg.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they, like, make him talk about it every day,

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<v Speaker 1>or did he want to?

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like he was like the designated Grayson

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<v Speaker 2>Allen guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like maybe, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>It was bad. Oops, maybe. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, your attitude right here, I'm telling you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doubling down. If Tar Heel fans try to not

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<v Speaker 2>embrace Grayson right away after this attitude he displayed and

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<v Speaker 2>this growth, all right, we're going to get you.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, it was great meeting you. After talking to

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<v Speaker 2>you for so much, meeting you, talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We're very pumped to see you on this team. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a great fit. Best of luck this year, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it.