1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of the people either one don't like 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: you or two are too busy to be bothered with 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: a silly question about you. So there's some new polling 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: that came out and it said the Indiana Governor Mike 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Braun his statewide approval rating is sitting at just twenty 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: five percent. This was done by Public Policy Polling Survey. 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: It was done between February twenty and the twenty first. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: They asked only five hundred and fifty four voters. I 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: don't know, that's not the biggest snapshot, but they found 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: out that his statewide approval rating is sitting at only 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: twenty five percent. And the real deal here, Braun has 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: struggled to get his agenda through the legislature in a 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: lot of areas. Even when he signs bills like property 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: tax relief, the final results are completely different from his 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: original proposal. He just can't deliver on the promises that 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: he makes. 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think what's interesting about this is I 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: was about twenty percent of the people surveyed had no 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: opinion of mistrust. 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: That's probably worse. Forget about the people that don't like you. 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: You're the governor of the state and one out of 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: every five people in the state are like, nah, eh, 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: whatever you're doing, don't care. Indifference is much worse than disapproval. 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: Just completely indifferent. You don't affect my life. I don't 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: care anything about I have no opinion on you. That's 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: the worst part about this. And look, a lot of 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: people are gonna get caught up in this twenty five 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: percent and I look, this is a real polling company. 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 2: So this is an honest, legit poll. Unlike you remember 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: during the twenty twenty four election when the local Indiana 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Democrats put out their own poll that showed, you know, 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: Jennifer McCormick was within a few points of Mike Brawn. 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: Remember that that was a fake poll. That was a 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: poll for them to just kind of drum up some 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: more donor money and get some interest. This is an 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: honest to goodness, real poll. While people are focusing on 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: the twenty five percent approval rating, which they should, because 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: that's terrible for Braun. It's bad no matter which way 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: you look at it, because people will say, well, you know, 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, it was only five hundred and some 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: people in this poll, or you can't trust polls. Okay, fine, 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: let's say, let's say that the truth is Braun's not 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: at twenty five percent approval rating, He's at thirty percent 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: approve still terrible. Let's give him a ton of rend 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: Let's say Braun's at thirty five percent approval rating, still 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: a disaster. The guy got fifty six percent of the 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: votes just a year ago in the election, and according 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: to this he's lost twenty percent minimum on the So 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: if you take the poll on the service, he's lost 50 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: thirty percent of that support in just over a year. 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: Shocking. 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: So a lot of his decisions in office, like replacing 53 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: the elected trustees on the iqu Board of Trustees with 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: his own appointees, that has. 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: Drawn some criticism. 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: He heavily pushed for the mid decade redistricting effort, even 57 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: with pressure from Donald Trump and support from Donald Trump, 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: the bill ultimately failed in Indiana. 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: He does, I'm gonna be honest, Okay, please. 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: He has had some successes, sure, of course, and they 61 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: all come from the education area, like the universal school 62 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: choice initiative that was expanded starting teacher pay was increased, 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: some new Indiana Blue Ribbon schools were recognized, and also 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: the public universities in Indiana announced tuition and fee freezes 65 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: for the next two years, although they were probably going 66 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: to do that anyway. 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: Well, and I'll give Bron credit. You mentioned it as 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: a controversial one, but the fact that the governor now 69 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: gets more board seats at Indiana University, that was a 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: controversial pick. I'd make that a win for him as 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. Look, Indiana University gets a ton 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: of taxpayer dollars, and when you get our money, we 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: get to say in how you run your organization. Now, 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: obviously we as voters don't directly get a say in that, 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: but our elected officials should have a lot of say 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: in what goes on at iuse So I'll give him 77 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: a win for that as well. 78 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: But you look about his signature. 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: His signature piece of legislation last year was property taxes. 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: That ended up being a disaster. Like you said, redistricting 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: took up. We talked about redistricting for six months last year. 82 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: Six months. It seems like all we talked about was 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: redistricting last year, and that was a fiery crash of 84 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: a disaster for Mike Brown because he put everything he 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: had behind that and could not get it across the 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: finish line. A lot of these things, and then go 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: to the things that he doesn't want to deal with, 88 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: he just throws it on the legislature. He's just like, well, 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: the House and senate'll figure that out, and I'm going 90 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: to sit back here and you know, not have an 91 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: opinion on it or not do anything about it. It's 92 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: all of those things that lead up to a wopping 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: twenty five percent approval rating. 94 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: So a majority of this poll was about the Mid 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: States Corridor Question two. 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: The Mid States. 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: Corridors proposed new four lane highway through du Bois County 98 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: in southern Indiana. Project is approximately twenty three miles long, 99 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: which would cost one point one billion dollars about forty 100 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: seven million dollars per mile. And then they go and ask, 101 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: you know, do you support this? 102 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: Do you oppose this? 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: It was strongly opposed by forty one percent. 104 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: And I noticed that. 105 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: Just today in the state budget Committee, they're reviewing any 106 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: highway project costing two hundred and fifty million dollars or more. 107 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: You're putting new language in because of this Mid State's Corridor, Yeah, 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: and they're. 109 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: Putting it into Interestingly enough, they're putting this amendment and 110 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: this language into. 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: The bill about the Chicago Bears, Cargo Bear. 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: So when I first read this story and I heard 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: that they're putting this road funding bill and they're tacking 114 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: it on as an amendment to the bill as it 115 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: relates to the Chicago Bears, my. 116 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: First thought was those stinking politicians. 117 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: They're trying to cram through toll roads or a tax 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: increase or something like that. They're going to cram it 119 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: through in that Bear's Bill. Happily I was wrong about this. 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: This is actually a really good amendment. Not sure it 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: should be put in the Bear's Bill as an amendment, 122 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: probably should sit as a bill all on its own. 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: But essentially, what this is requiring is that any projects 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: road projects over two hundred and fifty million dollars need 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: to be reviewed by the legislature before they can go forward. 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: Seems pretty reasonable. 127 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: To me that if you're going to spend a quarter 128 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: of a billion dollars, then we have some people take 129 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: another look at it, right, right. 130 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: So, you've got a lot of local residents who are 131 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: opposing that mid State's corridor plan. Poles like that one 132 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: showing a lot. 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: Of strong resistance. 134 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if this is a state wide 135 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: issue like, people in Northern Indiana are going to go, 136 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: mid States, what what are you talking about? Right? 137 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: That's down there, that's down there, and I've heard about 138 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: that down there in Dubois County and people up north 139 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: and go, what we have a Dubois County what's that? 140 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: So you can look at this poll they say it's statewide. 141 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: However, the focus of it was something that doesn't affect 142 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the entire state at least not people in northern Indiana. 143 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: Forty six percent of the people polled were from Indianapolis. 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: Actually forty five percent were from Indianapolis. 145 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: And that about matches the population. 146 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: Almost half the people polled were from Central Indiana. About 147 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: half the state's population resides in Central Indiana, so that 148 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: makes sense. And some lawmakers have come out and said, look, 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: this new proposal that we're trying to you know, tack 150 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: onto the Chicago Bears bill about road funding, it has 151 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the mid State's corridor project. Now, 152 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: it's just a massive coincidence that that's the case. But 153 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: you talked about these polls. There was actually a poll 154 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: that was released in December last year that went county 155 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: by county. So not only do you know forty plus 156 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: percent of the state not approve of the mid State's 157 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: Quarter project, even in Dubois County. Eighty one percent of 158 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: the residents in du Bois County don't want this project 159 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: running through their backyard. 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, or their front yard. 161 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: Highly just massively unpopular. 162 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: So lawmakers have added new requirements to a commercial trucking 163 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: bill its House Bill twelve hundred, and the bill would 164 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: now require commercial driver's life license tests to be taken 165 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: in English before someone can operate big trucks in Indiana. 166 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: Here is Governor Braun. 167 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: He was on Fox News and he was talking about 168 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: CDL scrutiny. 169 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: Most of that issue has been with CDLs that they've 170 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: been handing out like through a slot machine out in California, 171 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: but it shows how that can happen anywhere. And I 172 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 5: don't know where he got a CDL, but I've authorized 173 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: the state police to be ramping up just routine traffic stops, 174 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 5: and we're finding enough of it to where when we 175 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: do vet the drivers, they are not documented properly. And 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: the other complicating thing is documents. They're so good at 177 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 5: faking them, you don't even know. But this is cropping 178 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: up enough. Most of it has come from states that 179 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: weren't really interested about the rigor of what you do 180 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 5: to get a CDL. It shows it can happen anywhere, 181 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 5: and now we've had two fatal incidents in our own state. 182 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this bill also includes immigration related provisions. The 183 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: state can revoke as CDL if federal agencies give information 184 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: that a driver lacks legal immigration status. So this bill 185 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: is now linking immigration status and language proficiency to truck 186 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: licensing the trucking industry. 187 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a good thing. We obviously 188 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: need more enforcement in this area. I do think that 189 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: Braun was a little disingenuous there in that piece of 190 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 2: audio that we just played because he pretty much blamed. 191 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: All of all the other states. 192 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: On California, which, by the way, the accident we just 193 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: had last week on Rockville Road in Avon, where somebody 194 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: was killed by an illegal immigrant driving on the road 195 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: was issued in Indiana state driver's license. By the way, 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: it was also a real id there were photos of 197 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: it that were produced out there. So it's not just California. Look, 198 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: California going to be terrible offenders, but we got to 199 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: get our house right in order here in Indiana as well. 200 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 4: Another thing that happened. 201 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Braun was at the Governor's breakfast when Trump found out 202 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court wasn't going to go along with 203 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Trump's tariffs, and Braun was asked about how do tariffs 204 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: impact small businesses in Indiana? 205 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: So if you're caught in one of the industries that 206 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: you're dealing with that went global took the supply chain there, 207 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: it's hard to get around it. Many companies knew that 208 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 5: if you're going there, especially if you want to tap 209 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 5: their own consumer market, someday you've really gotten invested in 210 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: the Chinese economy. Most don't, but when it has occurred, 211 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 5: it takes a while to go somewhere else to get 212 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 5: that product made. But getting tariffs down to where they're 213 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 5: the same for the reciprocity, Trump's right on the money, 214 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: and we need to keep doing it free and fair. 215 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 5: If you impede our goods coming into your country, expect 216 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: it from us. 217 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: In response, of course, he's going to give Donald Trump 218 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: credit for everything as he's you know, continuing to ride 219 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's gotails. 220 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna come out obviously. You know, Braun and 221 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: Trump are tied at the hip on everything, and even 222 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: a controversial topic like tariffs are going to be part 223 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: of that, and Braun started to go down this road 224 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: when he talked about it in that audio we just 225 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: played there. But my guess is that if you're a 226 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: small business owner in this state and your business has 227 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: been damaged significantly by tariffs, you were probably looking for 228 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: a little bit more from Mike Braun than just what 229 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: we heard is. 230 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not going to be happy about the increased costs. 231 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: No, but you can come out and you can support 232 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's tariffs but also have a plan in place 233 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: to help small businesses in your state that are adversely 234 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: affected by those tariffs and talk about those and say, look, 235 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: I understand your small business has been hurt by these tariffs. 236 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: And that was, you know, just part of the process. 237 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: But look, here's what we're gonna do, and here's how 238 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: we're gonna help. But here's how we're going to change 239 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: things going forward so that you know, this adverse effect 240 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: that you've had on your business goes away and you 241 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: can get back to pre pro productile. Again, he started 242 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: to go down that road, but he really didn't finish 243 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: it off. 244 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: Well, if the goal is about fairness and trade, you 245 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: can't punish the middle class at the counter, because that's 246 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: not exactly a strategy to brag about. 247 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know. 248 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: And when Trump and Braun mentioned fairness as it relates 249 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: to tariffs, they're talking about fairness on the global international stage, 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: and the average everyday American citizen, certainly the every day hoosier, 251 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: really not all that concerned about fairness on the global stage. 252 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: I want fairness right here in my backyard. I want 253 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: fairness in my state. I want fairness in my small 254 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: business that I run. And look, I get it that 255 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: if somebody is going to tear off our goods, then 256 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: we need to tear off their goods. But how about 257 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: something for the little guy here that's just trying to 258 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: run this small business where these tariffs are hammering my 259 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: business and we're losing money. Now, that's where Trump and 260 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: Braun need to come out, have some ideas, some concepts, 261 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: and get a little bit more specific about that.