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Speaker 3: All I know is that I'm like five weeks away

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Speaker 1: Where are you going on vacation?

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Speaker 3: I'll be in the the horrible state in weather that

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Speaker 3: No, because I want to make friends with the Holles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be trouble because they're very protective of

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Speaker 1: the Huma human upuaha. But on this the eighth day

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, I was at the gas station, went in to

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Speaker 3: Was it people that were of your age or was

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Speaker 1: Okay, very well, those things are upcoming.

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Speaker 3: But your taxes done, Jake, they are okay. Good Now,

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Speaker 3: with all that money you make from IndyCar, I know

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Speaker 3: Those speaking things you have to do in month of May.

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Speaker 1: Of course, my two weeks of relevance are upcoming. But

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Speaker 1: Pacers last night dropping one. That was a weird one, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe I took my buddy Eric, who's as

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Speaker 1: And this guy is Pacers through and through and knows

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: There was one thing that happened last night that I saw.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of things last night Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: That I saw you saw fat guy's pants fall down? Right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Jake. Do you think it might be

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Speaker 1: You saw a person of of rotund nature? That was

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Speaker 1: Maybe that might be one where I misused the word

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Speaker 1: r O g y n o us.

435
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: There you go.

436
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: Uh, what has the definition of been draggedness? This might

437
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: have to do with something having nothing to do with

438
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: what I was thinking.

439
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: Partly male and partly female in appearance.

440
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Pat, not from Pat boiling, but Pat from SNL

441
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: and drogness. Right, you just don't know. So last night

442
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: in a baseball game, Eddie sends me a video and

443
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: piked in well dyked and posted it. Then you sent

444
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: it to me and you said on it, like, don't

445
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: open this with kids around, And I got I thought

446
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: maybe it was like the Pamela Tommy Lee tape. And

447
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: it was a foul ball. What game was it? The

448
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: Cubs game?

449
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chicago Cubs Tampa Bay Rays.

450
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: Went into the basically the bullpen area in right field

451
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: are just shy of it, and a fan reaching over for.

452
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: It enthusiastically was trying to get the foul ball.

453
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: Okay, And and seemed as though the bridge robe did malfunction?

454
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: Did the bridges did the bridges get the bridges got

455
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: caught on something?

456
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 3: And I know Tropicana had a visible roof to where

457
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: you could see the moon.

458
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: It was now the camera person failed us all by

459
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: quickly panning away before seeing exactly how the situation was handled. Right.

460
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a longer video that I found and I

461
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 3: go back and I watched it like on loop for

462
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: like five to ten minutes last night, just to see

463
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: the reaction of people around. And there's one guy on

464
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: the ball. He's coming and he's watching the ball, He's

465
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: watching them all looks down he goes, oh my goodness,

466
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: like the typical you put your fingers over your eyes,

467
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: like you're trying to hold back laughter that person.

468
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a person of a rounder nature that

469
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: might have had like elastic banded pants that basically got

470
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: hung up on something while they were reaching for the

471
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: foul ball, and then it was all there in the glory, right,

472
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: But from afar away and Eddie watched it on Loop.

473
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: I came in today and you were still watching it.

474
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, you haven't left that booth since last night,

475
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: right when you saw the video?

476
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: No, I have not. And then did you see the fight?

477
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: I majorly basea.

478
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I did see the Angels not aptly named last night.

479
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: Right, Rinaldo Lopez the picture for the Braves and Jorge

480
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: Solair of the Angel's former Brave.

481
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, former teammates.

482
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if they were teammates together, but did.

483
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: One of them enter the transfer portal? And that's why

484
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: they're no longer teammates? How dare they? Right? I know

485
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: we will go over the pacer game later on in

486
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: the program. A matter of fact, I think b Swift,

487
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: who works in the building. Obviously he's on afternoons from

488
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: three until seven. Be Swift in the afternoons over on

489
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: our sisters station Hot one hundred point nine and he

490
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: is on the video boards for the Pacer game. I

491
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: saw him earlier. I said he if you get a chance,

492
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: stop Marina MC program in Arena MC. Yes, and there

493
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: was a kid last night that was dancing on the

494
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: video board and B Swift was all about it, So

495
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: we might have to visit about that. Pat Knight gonna

496
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 1: join at one o'clock today. I wanted to talk about

497
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: not just what was done for the members of the

498
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: seventy sixteen, but I think Pat could also add some

499
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: perspectives just on not just the carousel that is the

500
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: transfer portal. But of course he's worked from the NBA

501
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: scouting standpoint as well, so we can get into pacers

502
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. With Pat, we'll get into as well.

503
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 1: The Master's getting set to get underway. Will Haskett will

504
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: join us two thirty. So a loaded show on a

505
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: gorgeous day that's warming up. It's one of those days

506
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: you start with the hoodie and end with a T shirt.

507
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: You do all of the here, acquiring company on the fan. Now,

508
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. Look. B Swift is grooving to

509
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: the music that Eddie has selected here. I'd like to

510
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: know B swift since you not just and Eddie said

511
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: the title correctly in arena host? Is that a proper terminology?

512
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 6: Correct? That is the time I just said MC. That's

513
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 6: why I always say people like, what do you do?

514
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 6: I'm an MC at a pass right? But the correct term,

515
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 6: as Eddie said, is the entering home.

516
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: So I would like to know this when you are

517
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: doing music in the afternoons as you do from three

518
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: until seven on our sister station one hundred point nine,

519
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what song is the one that

520
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: you never tire of?

521
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 6: Ooh, right now is probably TI let him know. That's

522
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 6: probably my go to right now?

523
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: And you've done this for how long? Twelve years? In

524
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: the twelve years that you've done it, what artist would

525
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: you say has played more on your shows than any other? Ooh,

526
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I would say maybe Drake. That

527
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, And you know, Drake is appropriate because

528
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: no matter who wins a championship, he can play Drake

529
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: because he's their biggest fan, right, their biggest fan every year.

530
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: Right.

531
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: He's a great bandwagoner. He is that and you are.

532
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: For those that are bandwagon fans of the pacers, I

533
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: don't think there are many, because this year, if there

534
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: were Bandwagon fans, you would not see a lot. I

535
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: just mentioned this. I am I'm stunned by two things.

536
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: Number One that I've never brought you on earlier, because

537
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: it's like, why not, right, you're the perfect person to

538
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: talk pacers with, and you and I do it in

539
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: the hallway fairly often. But number two, the amount of

540
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: people that are still coming to games for a team

541
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: that is obviously going through a year, the gap year

542
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: as we call it, it's impressive. I mean, the fans

543
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: have been there every night.

544
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: No, they show up and they're loud, they're having a

545
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 6: good time. And I give that to I give that

546
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 6: credit to the guys, right, like, they are really out

547
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 6: there playing ball. Like it's not like a normal where

548
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 6: you see we've seen teams tank, right, and you know

549
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 6: they're blatantly tanking, right, they're not playing at all, They're

550
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 6: playing resigns. These guys are really playing basketball. They want

551
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 6: to win, and what I think is masterful.

552
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: And you tell me if you've noticed this. This sounds

553
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: like I'm being facetious. I think Rick Carlisle. I'm not

554
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: saying he should win it. I think someone should out

555
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: of respect cast a vote for Rick Carlile for Coach

556
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: of the Year. Absolutely, and the reason being because getting

557
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: guys to still be invested when everybody knows the situation right.

558
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: But the other thing that I think he does that

559
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: is truly, you know, impressive, is if you know, like

560
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: you can go out and have Ethan Thompson and Taylon

561
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: Peter and Micah Potter on the floor and everyone knows, like, Okay,

562
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: they're doing this because they you know, they're going up

563
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: against Golden State and yeah they can't guard staph whatever,

564
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: but they don't want. They're they're tanking. Right if you're

565
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: doing tanking what they've what he has done, I think

566
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: that's that. And I don't know if it's by design,

567
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: but it's worked this way is they have maintained competitiveness

568
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: deep enough into games that every player has gotten a

569
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: taste of having to play in situations against top line

570
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: rosters where things are on the line. And that's the

571
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: stuff that's going to pay off down the road for them.

572
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 6: No, absolutely, because like you said, you putting those guys

573
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 6: in situations that they need to see correct. Any given point,

574
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 6: you could be in this situation via injury forty every game, right.

575
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: No, they're playing and it's good.

576
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 6: I think the biggest part for me, not only is

577
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 6: it Rick Carlisle, it's the assistant coaches and if you

578
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 6: ever pay attention to ty recent Pascal, those guys are

579
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 6: right there cheering.

580
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: They don't have to come to the game. And that's

581
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: what I mean when I say they're invested, like they're

582
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: still invested. Right yeah, Okay, So let's go to this

583
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: and Eddie and I have talked about this a lot,

584
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: but I want your perspective. B Swift is not just

585
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: the MC for the Pacers at the games, but of

586
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: course you hear him on our sister station in the afternoons.

587
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Give me two players that have gotten significant minutes this

588
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: year because of the situation, that have played two to

589
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: three that have played themselves in the position now where

590
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: you say, you know what. They may not be getting

591
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: that kind of They may not be getting those kinds

592
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: of minutes a year from now, but they are clearly

593
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: guys that you can roll with a little bit in

594
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: situations once you're back to full health. Ooh, I think

595
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: jars Walker has shelt it again.

596
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 6: He was a high draft pick for us. I think

597
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 6: the guy's good, and I think he deserves it, right.

598
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 6: Another guy that I like like that is probably Micah.

599
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I got Michael Potter. Michael Potter showed us he can

600
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: really ball. And Michael Potter was one that when he

601
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: was acquired, it almost felt like he was brought in

602
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: because it was like, Okay, they've got a spot here,

603
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: and they got it. You need some bodies, right, But

604
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: he can shoot, he can shoot the ball, and he's

605
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: and he's actually and I think this goes a little

606
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: bit under maybe not as notice as much. He is

607
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: a decent rebounder. I mean he can get in there

608
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: and mix it up a little bit as well. I

609
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know that he is a thirty two minute per

610
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: game galway right right, But in a twelve to eighteen.

611
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: Minutes, he can get in, get you some points, get

612
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 6: you some rebound, and he's playing. They got him listed

613
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 6: as a six to nine center, which I thought was crazy.

614
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: Like he's I see him as a powerful run That's.

615
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 6: Where I see man, Like you got him at obi

616
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 6: same height and they got one at four over one

617
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 6: at center. I put him at the at the four

618
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 6: and let him go to work.

619
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: Okay, give me two to three people that have done

620
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: a nice job this year, and when you look at it,

621
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: you go okay, But in reality, I call it empty

622
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: calorie guys. Yeah, guys that are getting minutes of getting points.

623
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: But part of that is because somebody has to get

624
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: minutine points in the situation, and it doesn't mean that

625
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: they're part of your long term plan.

626
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 6: And I hate to say this first guy because this

627
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 6: is my guy and I love him like Q jack

628
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: Clinton Jackson. I think he's done great job. He's played

629
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 6: hard enough to get the contract guaranteed for the next

630
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 6: three years, you know what I mean. I think he's

631
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 6: done an amazing job when he gets in the game,

632
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 6: but I don't know long term.

633
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: But where he's he can't score, but oh he gets buckets.

634
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 6: That's why I hate to say it, right, That's why

635
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 6: I hate to say jack like.

636
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: Because he can get you points and we've seen him

637
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: go off. But you know what's interesting though, he seems

638
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: to me, and this is not meant as a knock

639
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: on him, but Quintin Jackson to me seems to be

640
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: a guy that he can absolutely score for you. But

641
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that his scoring comes within the system.

642
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Typically of the offense. They do once everybody's there.

643
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Like he gets the ball, he's going to be

644
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 6: a great fast break guy, you know what I mean.

645
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 6: Or if he can create something off the dribble, he goes.

646
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 6: But like you say, the system that Carlile runs, I

647
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 6: don't know if the points come off of the screens,

648
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 6: the down picks and anything. I don't think they do.

649
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 6: I think he just he can shoot, he can get

650
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 6: the points. He knows how to get to the bucket.

651
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: What's the what's the best and worst part of the

652
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: job of being the mc Ooh?

653
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 6: The worst part is a contestant and you have to

654
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 6: put your faith in them that they're not gonna cuss.

655
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: Like when we playing a game. You don't know what's

656
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 6: gonna come out of a person. Eddie, we got pat

657
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 6: Night coming on at one o'clock. You know exactly what

658
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 6: that's all about.

659
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: Free tickets, you e free tickets?

660
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: Don't have free tickets. That's the other worst part. Yeah,

661
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: I'll bet I would get nervous though a lot of people.

662
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: Freaking is my number one fear, right right. We talk

663
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: about that all the time.

664
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 6: Same for me, And it's crazy because I get in

665
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 6: front of these fifteen thousand people and be like, uh,

666
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 6: figured it out.

667
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: Right, But you don't. I mean, I guess you're just

668
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: kind of talking in that moment. You forget that everybody's

669
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: watching it, right.

670
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I told somebody yesterday. I said, I

671
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 6: just find a point in a room and it helps. Like,

672
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 6: so if it's me and you talking, I can look

673
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 6: over your shoulder, find something that's yellow, a logo, and

674
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 6: that's kind of my focus point to where then everybody disappears.

675
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: You know.

676
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: The other thing that I think that people and you

677
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: and I have talked about this I always get I

678
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: always laugh at this. I think people forget when they're

679
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: when you're doing the different games during the game, the

680
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: family feud and things like that. I'm like, guys, they're

681
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: they're asking the pacer players this. So when you're asking them,

682
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: like what's the most comfortable card, They're probably not going

683
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: to say a Honda Civic because they're all seven foot right, Like,

684
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: think about think about who they're surveying here. Right.

685
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 6: That's the hard part because you have to make sure

686
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 6: you overly explain it to somebody because I remember we talked.

687
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 6: I think it was Thanksgiving for you, right, and you

688
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 6: was like Yo, why would I'm like, yeah, they they

689
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 6: don't listen, and it's like, no, not what you think

690
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 6: you would think.

691
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: They were eating growing up at Thanksgiving dinner, right.

692
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like it's all about their opinion, and that's the

693
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 6: dope part. Some people catch on it and understand it,

694
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 6: and that's the great part because the fans. It's never

695
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: you get the person that's doing the game that understands

696
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 6: it most sometimes, but it's usually the fans that help

697
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: out of getting the fan.

698
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: That you you put up on the like for the

699
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: contestants and who picks it.

700
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 6: So they just tell us where to go, Hey, you're

701
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 6: gonna be in section sixteen. Find a fan. So then

702
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 6: it's on us to kind of be like who got

703
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: on Pacer gear? Who looks like there might be knowledgeable?

704
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: So I go around and I ask, hey, are you

705
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 6: a fan? Do you understand? Do you who's your favorite player?

706
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: Like?

707
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: I asked certain things to see who's gonna game?

708
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: Now.

709
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: We had last night a situation at the Pacer game

710
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: where basically twelve year old Eddie Garrison was up on

711
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: the video. So you had what do you call that

712
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: particular segment that was a dance cam? I think dance

713
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: cam and punch dance and they go around and they're

714
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: looking for the best dancer, right yep. And there was

715
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: a kid that again basically Eddie without the beer it was,

716
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: and he was he was like into it big time, right,

717
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: he had a ball.

718
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 6: That was the lot of supplause I've heard for I

719
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 6: know it got real because when they would take it

720
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 6: off of him, the crowd would boo, of course, and

721
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 6: then it would cheer when it went back like it's

722
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 6: it was real at that point.

723
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've heard the crowd

724
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: boo because you took the camera off somebody.

725
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: Right.

726
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 6: Facts, it's normally only like it when it's like a baby.

727
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 6: You go from a baby, it's on another like boom,

728
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 6: go back to the q ky like booo.

729
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: Or sometimes it's occasionally the person that thinks there at

730
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: Studio fifty four, right, yes, And that also can get

731
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: the crowd going a little bit, I think personally, and

732
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: you can agree or disagree. I think personally. Next year,

733
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see where they are, not just

734
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: because if they get the draft pick, it's a big

735
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: if and then the Haliburton Health to figure it out.

736
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: But I think we give next year as an acclimation

737
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: period and it's then the I gotta think it would

738
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: be technically the twenty eight season. Yeah, I think that's when,

739
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: assuming they stay healthy, look out, that's my thought.

740
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 6: I got a second round playoffs next year already. I

741
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 6: think will be a six to nine set, you know

742
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 6: what I mean.

743
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: I think that's probably fair.

744
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I tell people, if you look at it

745
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 6: as a fan of the game, if you look at

746
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 6: how this team is built, we are built to always

747
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 6: make it to the playoff as a six seed. Like

748
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 6: it's just how the team is structured to me as

749
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 6: a fan, right, when you look at past guy, you

750
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 6: look at Jay Huff, you look at Zubat, Like even

751
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 6: before these guys, you like Jay Huff, Right, I love Huff.

752
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 6: Huff is a great guy.

753
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: Like he Also he hit I don't know if you've

754
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: noticed this, the Jay Huff rule. He hits the first

755
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: two threes of every game, every game. It's like a

756
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: musk of him. Now, I'm not gonna lie to you.

757
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: He swift it. Sometimes it dips off from there, well,

758
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: it goes down. The stamina seems to be a little

759
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: bit in play, but nonetheless, right, it's impressive.

760
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 6: I'll take more three sixties than I wiel three points

761
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 6: from Jay he had one last night, right, Yeah, Like

762
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 6: I love the three sixty to one eighty dunks.

763
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what Eddie's laughing at over there, but

764
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: he's laughing.

765
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: The dunk's always cracking.

766
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 6: Me out because it's the most unneeded dunk at all times.

767
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 6: Eddie light Bro just dunk the ball, but you're gonna

768
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 6: get a half reverse and you're gonna get the three sixty.

769
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: Pozzazz into it.

770
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: Right.

771
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: He won't to answer why he does it either.

772
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful and you are correct. Usually it's like there

773
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: was no one around where you had to come tour.

774
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, all right. Lastly, you are the pride

775
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: of Pike High School? Am I right in?

776
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 7: Now?

777
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely correct? What year for the Red Devil? I'm O two?

778
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: Are you in that Pike Hall of Fame? You know

779
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: I am. I was gonna say, if Laura Steel's in there,

780
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: you've got to be.

781
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

782
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: I came a couple of years after Lord shout out

783
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: the lawyer, h O two, so that would have been

784
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: And I'm totally going off the top of my head.

785
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm getta guess that you bridged Chris Thomas and Justin Cage, right.

786
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Justin's like my little bro. So I got there

787
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 6: in ninety nine. I think that was after we wanted

788
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 6: They wanted Chip in ninety eight. I came ninety nine.

789
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 6: Chris was still there. I think he was leaving the

790
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 6: next year. Yeah, because he was a senior, my fresh

791
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: he was mister basketball, right yep. So I was there

792
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 6: for that season. Then Justin Parnell, Robert Vaden, Courtney Lee

793
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 6: got you then, right, No, he was there when I

794
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 6: was there. Him and my little brother played together. So

795
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 6: they want to state championship the year I was gone.

796
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: This is what I always say for parents of young

797
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: kids playing basketball. The Courtney Lee example is the perfect one.

798
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: If you can hit a mid jumper and you're a

799
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: good teammate, you can last a long time in the

800
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: NBA and period.

801
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 6: Like and I don't think people understood how how good

802
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 6: Bro really was. Like Daryl was a really small kid

803
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 6: that had a great growth spurt, and when he grew

804
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 6: he understood it and the met range game was perfect.

805
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: And from the NBA standpoint, he and each one more

806
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: as well from Purdue are two guys that I thought

807
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: played probably to extended by even two to three years

808
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: by simply being a solid teammate and just a rely

809
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: on it guy. Speaking of teammates, I guess that's what

810
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: we are technically, because we are we're in the same building.

811
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: But I'll let you go. We can get ready for

812
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: your show because there is plenty of drake that you

813
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: got to play today, A lot of drake. All right,

814
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you getting at three o'clock. That'll be swift.

815
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: You can hear over on our sister station, bounce back

816
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: and forth tween he and John. Of course. All right,

817
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: we'll come back. Pat Knight joining us about fifteen minutes.

818
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: Pat Knight coming up just under ten minutes from now.

819
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: You should send him the picture he sent you last

820
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: time we had him on the show.

821
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: Oh, he sent me another picture. We'll have to ask

822
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: him about it. He now has a life size Elvis

823
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: down in his man cave.

824
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: That's not the picture I was talking about.

825
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: Speaking of a rotund Right, the NFL Draft is upcoming, and

826
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: we touched on this briefly yesterday.

827
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: Two weeks from tomorrow or yeah, two.

828
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: Weeks from tomorrow, is that? Yeah? Two weeks from right, Yeah,

829
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: that's right. That means just a week after Peter Brady. Okay,

830
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how I have to call him sick.

831
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Oh listen, if we can, if I can ask him

832
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: about you know.

833
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 3: But I'm not on the Mark Dyton PTO plan, so

834
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if episode.

835
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: But we briefly touched on this yesterday. And I don't recall, Eddie.

836
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: The circumstances as to why Trevor Lawrence was not at

837
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft when he was the number one overall election.

838
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't remember either. It might be just a Fernanda

839
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 3: Mendoza kind of thing as well, where he just wanted

840
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: to be around friends and family.

841
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Right, but Mendoza making that announcement or you know, yesterday

842
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: the news coming out that he will not be at

843
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, despite the fact that he most certainly

844
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: is going to be. I think at this point it's

845
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: a done deal, right, the number one pick. I'm like,

846
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: we all know that. And I was talking last night

847
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: about and Eddie, I will in rope you into this conversation.

848
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned Eric that I took to the game last night.

849
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: He had a very good one on this, and that

850
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: is what current quarterback or past, but what established quarterback

851
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: that we now have seen the full body of work

852
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: or have an idea of the body of work. What

853
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: quarterback is the floor and what quarterback is the ceiling.

854
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: For Fernanda Mendoza, I think.

855
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: The floor is coincidentally the guy he's going to be

856
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: learning from, correct, not being Kirk Cousins, Right, Yeah. And

857
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: the more I thought about it, I was like, it

858
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: makes sense as to why Vegas would want Kirk Cousins

859
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 3: in there because he's got familiarity with the offense because

860
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 3: of his time with Clinton. Now clintor is a Gary.

861
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: I always get them confused. I think it's Gary.

862
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: No, I think it's Clint.

863
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: Okay, see exactly, Kubiak just say yeah with Kubiak. So

864
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: that's good. It'll it will help Fernando for sure. I

865
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 3: know Fernando has been working out with a guy who

866
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: worked really, really close with Kyle Shanahan in the early

867
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: stages of the development of the of the new West

868
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: Coast offense. That's kind of sweeping the NFL with either

869
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: you're in the McVeigh system or the Shanahan tree. And

870
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: it's a similar version of the West Coast. So but

871
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: the ceiling, I don't I don't know what the ceiling

872
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: would be.

873
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: I think he okay, I think floor Daniel Jones, I think,

874
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: and that's not a bad thing. I think, you know,

875
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has mobility. You can you can extend plays

876
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: with him or utilize his legs to open things up

877
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: or soften a defense a bit. But he also has

878
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: ability to accurately throw, like on the run, that kind

879
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: of thing. But I think Mendoza already once he knows

880
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: the system and is protected, I think he's he's right

881
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: there around the level of what we've seen from Daniel Jones,

882
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: which is a high compliment to Mendoza. Not a knock

883
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: on Jones talking about somebody coming right out. I actually

884
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: think Cousins is good, but I think that ceiling is

885
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: the wrong. I think Cousins is not given enough credit

886
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: for as good as he is could Mendoza be. And

887
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: I know this guy's almost blasphemous to say. In Indianapolis,

888
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: but pre the wheels coming off and pre really bad injuries, Carson.

889
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: Wentz, I see a lot of Drake May.

890
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good, and the accuracy that's good. Yeah,

891
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Drake May is really good. Yeah, of course we don't

892
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: know yet. What you know is Drake May long term

893
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: the guy, or is Drake May for that matter, Carson

894
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Wentz where he comes out of the womb and looks outstanding,

895
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: and then once he hits that wall, he hits it.

896
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But I the thing that

897
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: I go back to Mendoza. Here is a player that

898
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: played enough at the University of California to graduate from school,

899
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: to then go as a graduate transfer to Indiana University,

900
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: to start every game at Indiana, to go sixteen to zero,

901
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: to win the Heisman Trophy, to lead two different drives,

902
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: to save games after getting punched in the mouth, to

903
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: have another game in the Big Ten Championship where you

904
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: play the totality of the game after on the first

905
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: drive getting punched in the mouth, to winning all of that,

906
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: to going into the College Football Playoff, to winning in

907
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, to winning in the Peach Bowl, to

908
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: winning in the National Championship game. All of that, and

909
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: yet the Raiders are willing to spend twenty million guaranteed

910
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: for a year to get him somebody to bridge the

911
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: handoff to him and let him learn behind it. But

912
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: the Colts drafted a player who had started fewer games

913
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: in the totality of his college career than Mendoza played

914
00:48:54,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: at Indiana, and even then had a subpark completion percentage,

915
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: and yet handed him the keys, pulled the ripcord, and

916
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: let him go as a rookie. I'm not saying that

917
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: you have to do it the Raiders way, but it's

918
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: interesting that with as prepared as Mendoza, seemingly Mendoza has

919
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: more experience coming out of college than you could potentially ask,

920
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: or the maximum that you could ask, I guess I

921
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: should say, And yet even with that, it shows how

922
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: challenging it must be to immediately take over the reins

923
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. The seventy six Indiana team

924
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: was honored at halftime of the National championship game between

925
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: Connecticut and Michigan. Bob Knight was represented by his son, Pat,

926
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: who presented something to every player on the seventy six roster.

927
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: Pat joins us next. I think the most exciting thing

928
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: since we last talked with Pat Knight. The most exciting

929
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: thing that I mean being able to represent his father

930
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: at halftime of the Nationtional championship game and be with

931
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: the members of the last undefeated team in college basketball,

932
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: the seventy six users is obviously pretty hard to top.

933
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: But having a lifetime Elvis, I don't know if you'd

934
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: call it a statue or whatever you would call it

935
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: down in the Pat knight Man Cave might top that. Actually,

936
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: he joins us now in the program. Is it a

937
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: is it an Elvis statue, a doll, a caricature? What

938
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: would you describe that you have that's terrifying people in

939
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: your basement?

940
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 8: Well, it's all it's not my basement. It's actually over

941
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 8: my Kiki bar above my garage.

942
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: It's uh. I mean, all I did was Google.

943
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 8: I googled life size Elvis statues, so that's what came up.

944
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 8: So that's what it's got to be, a life size

945
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 8: Elvis statue.

946
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: And how was this delivered? Was this like the guy

947
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: in a Christmas story where a big truck showed up

948
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: and it was a major award you had unboxed. I'm

949
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: how exactly did that work out?

950
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 2: Huge Creighton box.

951
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 8: I had a Callwayne at one to eight hundred junk

952
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 8: to come and get that out after.

953
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: I got it.

954
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 8: But I'm used to it because I have my place

955
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 8: in Florida and I think I have four life sized

956
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 8: pirates and they come in the same crate deal.

957
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: So I'm used to having to get rid of the

958
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: big crate and all that stuff.

959
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: Are you a VIP member?

960
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 2: No, but I get a good price.

961
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: I love that.

962
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: Right.

963
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to this in terms of the halftime,

964
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, the honoring of the nineteen seventy six team,

965
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: and you know, fifty years since the last undefeated team

966
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: in college basketball. How much interaction pat have you had

967
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: with that particular group. I would assume some guys more

968
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: than others living in Bloomington, But was that the first

969
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 1: time really that you had seen all of those guys

970
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: together in one event?

971
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: Oh my yes, yeah, not since seventy six. That whole group.

972
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 8: You know, you know, they've gotten together with my dad

973
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 8: in the past and everything. But you know, I went,

974
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 8: They're my dad's guys. It's not like I went to

975
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 8: those things. And so, yeah, honestly, that whole group together

976
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 8: since I was a little kid going to practice in

977
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 8: nineteen seventy six.

978
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: How much do you remember or recount of that because

979
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: you would have been what five, right, you know something?

980
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: How much recollection do you have of it?

981
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

982
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 8: I have a lot, because you know, I went allowed

983
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 8: to go to the games until the next year, and

984
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 8: just because you know, my dad's a little worried about

985
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 8: me running around, and so I watched all the games

986
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 8: on TV. But I was at a Semit hall every

987
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 8: day at practice, and those guys, I mean they stuffed

988
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 8: me in garbage cans, the laundry basket. I mean I

989
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 8: was just all over that place with those guys, and

990
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 8: it was kind of neat. You know, remember some of

991
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 8: the guys, even rich Vala Vicious that you know, transferred

992
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 8: after a year. He was really he was so nice

993
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 8: to me. You know, he was a freshman playing with

994
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 8: me and everything, and just seeing him, you know, hadn't

995
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 8: seen him since he transferred, you know, the next year,

996
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 8: and so you know, I got a lot of good

997
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 8: memories just hanging out in the locker room with those

998
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 8: guys and just you know, being a kid just playing

999
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 8: around the court.

1000
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: What was it that was presented to each team member?

1001
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: Was it rings that were presented to each of the

1002
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: members of the team on Monday night.

1003
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, they actually had a new championship rings made and

1004
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 8: then on the inside it talks about it being the

1005
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 8: fiftieth anniversary of their accomplishment, and I mean really nice

1006
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 8: job what they did, I mean first class. And you

1007
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 8: know Indiana did the same thing at the Oregon game

1008
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 8: what I went down to. But those rings were from

1009
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 8: going undefeated two years in a row in the Big

1010
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 8: Ten and seventy five and seventy six, and so these

1011
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 8: guys now have received two rings, I think.

1012
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: In the last three months.

1013
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: When you look Pat at the Pat Knight as our guest,

1014
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: that seventy five team, you know, the seventy six team obviously,

1015
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, will forever be talked about. And the seventy

1016
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: five team as well was truly remarkable. And the loss

1017
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: to Kentucky in the regional final, and you know, I

1018
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: mean everybody knows the story that Scott may broke his arm,

1019
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: and you know, you had great players on that team,

1020
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: Leskowski and Steve Green as well, might have been and

1021
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: told at full health the better of the two teams.

1022
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: Crazy as that is to say, but how much do

1023
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: you think it still ate at your dad or did it?

1024
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: The fact that they were beaten in seventy five.

1025
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: So, I you know, it's kind of funny.

1026
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 8: I was talking to Tom Abernathy Iver about this. You know,

1027
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 8: i'd get my dad like deal with the Alzheimer's deal.

1028
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 8: The one thing I could get him gone if he

1029
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 8: was have one of those days was the seventy five

1030
00:54:54,600 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 8: seventy six group. And so I remember we were going

1031
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 8: through Wyoming fishing and it was early on, but he'd

1032
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 8: still have these moments, you know.

1033
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 2: When he kind of go quiet and went talking.

1034
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 8: So I just got him going about, you know, the

1035
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 8: seventy five seventy sixteen and he went on this deal

1036
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 8: about how he screwed it up. They should have won

1037
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 8: two in a row, even with Scott May being hurt.

1038
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 8: And the whole thing was he moved Leskowski into the

1039
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 8: starting lineup, and he thought it really screwed up their defensive.

1040
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: Assignments.

1041
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 8: And he talked about that he should have put Abernathy

1042
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 8: in the starting lineup, kept last coming off the bench,

1043
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 8: because he was like, you know, you have a starter

1044
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 8: that's a big time scorer coming off the bench. And

1045
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 8: he goes on this whole deal. I mean he's getting mad,

1046
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 8: like he is punching the car, like just mad at himself, like,

1047
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 8: you know, I screwed this up. We should want two

1048
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 8: in a row. If I would have moved lads into

1049
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 8: the kept laz as the sixth man, and because it

1050
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 8: screwed up our defense and it screwed up our offense,

1051
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 8: and so he calls Bob Hamil.

1052
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: He's like, get Hams on the phone.

1053
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 8: So I'm driving, So I put him on speaker bone

1054
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 8: and he starts going, you know, talking to Hammel about it,

1055
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,959
Speaker 8: and mister Hamil didn't really help things. He was like, yeah, Bob,

1056
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 8: that probably would have been a better thing kept last

1057
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 8: coming off the bench because we would have had that

1058
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 8: scoring punch. And then with Aver because when he moved

1059
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 8: lass and it changed to Bobby Wilkerson would dard. So

1060
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 8: it kind of changed the matchups and it was hilarious

1061
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 8: and so he got even more mad. And so that

1062
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 8: just galled at him, like you know, coach with such perfectionists.

1063
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 8: I mean, he always blamed husself that they didn't win

1064
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 8: two in a row just because of the lineup changes

1065
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 8: that he made after Scott got injured.

1066
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: What was the I guess in your in your father's

1067
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: journey with that pat what what was the the one

1068
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: story or player or memory or moment that you felt

1069
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: like your father held onto them with the most clarity

1070
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: for the longest amount of time, and my apologies for

1071
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: asking it in that way.

1072
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 8: No, no, just you know, really just talking to the

1073
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 8: guys before the season, you know, because.

1074
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: He put the pressure on him.

1075
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 8: They weren't they weren't talking about having another good year.

1076
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 8: I mean he pretty much told him it'd be.

1077
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: A failed season.

1078
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 8: They didn't win the national championship, and just how those

1079
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 8: guys responded to it, like, I mean, that's a lot

1080
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 8: of pressure.

1081
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and.

1082
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 8: Coaching, Yeah, we all dream about winning a national championship,

1083
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 8: but it's actually be like, hey, this will be a

1084
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 8: down year, a failed year if you don't win.

1085
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: The whole thing after what happened the year before.

1086
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 8: And then he always just talked about how those guys responded.

1087
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it didn't affect those guys.

1088
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 8: Those guys were tough, and you know he and he

1089
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 8: stayed on them, and you know that's what those guys

1090
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 8: were talking about during this year union. You know, he

1091
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 8: stayed on him and they were able to take it.

1092
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: None of them back down.

1093
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 8: I mean, but he always talked about like their first meeting,

1094
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 8: I mean, he put that on them. I mean, just

1095
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 8: right away, if you don't win the national championship you failed.

1096
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: Do you feel Pat Knight is my guest here, when

1097
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: you think about your dad's career, Pat, do you think

1098
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: that he was more driven by his desire to win

1099
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: or his hatred.

1100
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 8: Of losing, hatred of losing, because he'd win and be

1101
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 8: in the worst mood ever.

1102
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean it was his hatred of losing.

1103
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 8: And yeah, because there are many times we won games,

1104
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 8: but you know they didn't play well, they didn't. I

1105
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 8: mean there was an instant at Texas Tech. We just

1106
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 8: beat a ranked team at home, and he is pissed

1107
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 8: and he was so upset because he goes through the

1108
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 8: film we had too many made baskets off the dribble

1109
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 8: and set off the cut. I mean, he was furious,

1110
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 8: and you know, I'm trying to help things out, like, hey,

1111
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 8: the game's changed, you know we you know, we've added

1112
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 8: the ball screen. But he was such a perfectionist and

1113
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 8: wanted things done the right way that he wasn't happy

1114
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 8: every time we won and losing. His hatred of losing

1115
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 8: was far ten times, and it was the enjoyment of winning.

1116
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the game has changed. Pat Knight

1117
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: my guest, and we're right now, you know, we're forty

1118
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: eight hours into the transfer portal. I talked about it earlier.

1119
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: There's some three thousand players on the portal. Patt It's

1120
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: the reality of college basketball. My one concern with it

1121
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: is this, is this going to jeopardize I understand players,

1122
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: and I'm all for players doing what's best in their situation.

1123
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, I was to four schools in college.

1124
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: But having said that, are we at risk of losing

1125
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: the fan base because it's going to be harder and

1126
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: harder for fans to follow players and be familiar with

1127
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: their own roster.

1128
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 8: I think it's already happened. I mean, there's so many

1129
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 8: people I run into that are like, I don't follow

1130
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 8: college basketball anymore. And because I don't know who's on

1131
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 8: the rosters, there's no loyalty to the program. They're just mercenaries,

1132
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 8: hired guns. And you know, the guy's probably done the

1133
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 8: best job of keeping guys because he's and.

1134
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: I know for a fact, because you know I know

1135
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: him and.

1136
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 8: His assistants and been to their practices to really harp

1137
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 8: on him about, Hey, do you want to be a

1138
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 8: mercenary or do you want to leave a legacy and

1139
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 8: always have a place to come back to as the

1140
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 8: home has been Matt Painter. He's been able to keep

1141
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 8: core guys and probably done the best job of it.

1142
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 8: But I've already seen, you know, I talked to some

1143
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 8: people that didn't even watch the NCAA tournament because they

1144
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 8: don't care, just because it's totally changed, and you're dead

1145
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 8: on it's just going to keep getting worse, I think

1146
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 8: from a fan standpoint, and people going to start tuning

1147
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 8: it out, you know, And that's happened with the NBA

1148
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 8: too because of the style play.

1149
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you run in a lot of people that.

1150
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 8: Don't even watch the NBA anymore, and now it's starting

1151
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 8: to trickle down to the college game.

1152
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: Speaking of the NBA, what is I just noticed this recently,

1153
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: and maybe it's some phenomenon that I that I'm late

1154
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: to the party on recognizing. But when you look at

1155
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: scores now, and I know the game is cyclical, the

1156
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: pat we're seeing scores in the one hundred and forties

1157
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: to all, you know, one forty five to one thirty

1158
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: and things like that. Is it because we're at that

1159
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: point in the year where you know, some some people

1160
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: are resting out starters and therefore it's just kind of

1161
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, going through the motions level games. Or is

1162
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: it that shooters are so great in the league or

1163
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: defense is so bad to what do you attribute it?

1164
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: You've been around the NBA obviously a long time.

1165
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 8: Well, Number one is the defensive rules. You know, there's

1166
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 8: no hand checking, you can't be on the helpline. You

1167
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 8: got to you know, be outside the laying. There's a

1168
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 8: lot of rules they put in place to up the scoring.

1169
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 8: So that hurts from the beginning. That's why when I

1170
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 8: was scouting, the main thing was can you guard your

1171
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 8: position because there is going to be there's no help.

1172
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 8: I mean, you got to be able to guard a

1173
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 8: guy one on one. And that's why a lot of

1174
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 8: people don't understand that they have defensive rules in place

1175
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 8: to open up the floor.

1176
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: So there are those driving gaps.

1177
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 8: You don't have that help big help man in the

1178
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 8: middle clogging things up and so and then you're getting

1179
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 8: the best athletes.

1180
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: You don't have. You know, college, you have guys like.

1181
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 8: Me and you on the on the team you know,

1182
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 8: not an NBA. I mean you got it's all the

1183
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 8: premier athletes, and so the rules affected. But then like

1184
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 8: you're saying, now we got the team's tanking, we got

1185
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 8: the guys resting for the playoffs. And so the last

1186
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 8: probably three to four weeks of the season get pretty

1187
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 8: bad when it comes from uh scoring situation, where with

1188
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 8: the defensive rules in place, you have a lot of

1189
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 8: high scores.

1190
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: You know, you sell yourself short. You were the CBS

1191
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: Chevrolet Player of the Game once in a college basketball game,

1192
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: were you not?

1193
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, because that gives to somebody who got blown up

1194
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 8: by Minnesota. And my dad put me in with those

1195
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 8: four freshmen, and uh, I ended up giving.

1196
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: That award away. That's how much it meant to me.

1197
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: Player of the game, Baby, you lost by fifty, right,

1198
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: isn't that right?

1199
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: Oh? At least he was brutal.

1200
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 8: I remember at halftime he's like, hey, call this cut.

1201
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 2: Hey, I went five guys.

1202
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 8: Well, you know I got cleaned up of but five

1203
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 8: guys in there are going to give an affort.

1204
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: So Pat, it's you picked four freshmen.

1205
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 8: It's like, oh, it was so bad Clem Haskins. Because

1206
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 8: coach Haskins actually recruited me to.

1207
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: Go to Minnesota.

1208
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 8: Every time I came down the court, he kept apologizing to.

1209
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: Tell me, and he kept going pat. I can't put

1210
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: anybody else in the game. Man, I'm sucker.

1211
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: That is beautiful, beautiful. Well, hey, listen, you didn't keep

1212
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: the hat. Didn't you get a hat for Player of

1213
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: the game.

1214
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: No, I got to I got I got plaque. I

1215
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: gave it to day Buca.

1216
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 8: Do you remember Buka I gave to Dave Buca.

1217
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: Okay, don't you wish you had it back now that

1218
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: it looks good with your elvis statue?

1219
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 2: No, man, I want to forget that game. Man.

1220
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. That's definitely fair. Hey, I'm curious

1221
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: of this. Also, I've watched a fair amount recently and

1222
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know how it happened, but I mentioned

1223
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: that the other day I was talking on the show

1224
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: that somehow I mentioned with I ended up with like

1225
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 1: forty seven apps on my cable system. So I've got

1226
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, I can see like all kinds of stuff

1227
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: sports wise everywhere, Like I'm watching batch you Ball and

1228
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: Bangladesh and all kinds of stuff, And I'm seeing more

1229
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: of the European like top level European basketball leagues. How

1230
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: close is that to the NBA? I mean, how how

1231
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: how thin is the margin or is it still a

1232
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: huge gap between top level European League and NBA.

1233
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 8: You know, when you combine those teams, there's still a gap,

1234
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 8: you know because athlete meticism and their rules. They don't

1235
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 8: have the defensive rules that the NBA has so you

1236
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 8: can calog up the lane and everything and so those

1237
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 8: But where.

1238
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: It is the gap.

1239
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 8: Has closed is the international teams. So for the Olympics

1240
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 8: and all the international competition, when it's the countries, that's

1241
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 8: where you see.

1242
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean it is a thin margin.

1243
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 8: There's a good documentary about the the Paris Olympics in

1244
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 8: twenty four and it covers not just the US team,

1245
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 8: but all you know, Australia, Germany, Spain, all the good teams,

1246
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 8: and it really shows you the margin for air now

1247
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 8: for the US team is very thin when you.

1248
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: Get the best players together.

1249
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 8: But you know, I still think you could put you know,

1250
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 8: the Pacers, Lakers, anybody over in the European League and they,

1251
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 8: you know, they they'd win pretty handily because you know,

1252
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 8: it's they don't have all the best players on those teams.

1253
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 8: And actually I think our rosters compared to you know,

1254
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 8: you know Real Madrid or somebody like that, it's an

1255
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 8: NBA team would beat them pretty handily, and we do,

1256
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 8: you know, if you look at the scores, because the

1257
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 8: NBA is playing those games over there against some of

1258
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 8: those teams, they went pretty handedly. But it's the international

1259
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 8: competition like Olympics at pan Am Games, that's where they're making.

1260
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 8: I mean, it's a thin margin of mayor.

1261
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: Now for that, how much do you watch still the Pacers?

1262
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: I know, obviously you were For those that don't know,

1263
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: Pat Knight, you were an employee of the Pacers. You

1264
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: then coached at Marion. You are between positions. Now we'll

1265
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: see what the next step is. But how much do

1266
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 1: you still follow what the Pacers are doing?

1267
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

1268
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 8: A lot all the time, you know, because they're my

1269
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 8: friends and you know, the front office and everything.

1270
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: So I follow them and.

1271
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 8: Went to the first couple of games when the season started,

1272
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 8: and whenever they they're on, you know, we turn it

1273
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 8: on and watch it. So yeah, I'm still following because

1274
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 8: I know all the guys know the roster.

1275
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: This season must have been the best, and I know

1276
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: it's been a bad year for the Pacers just in turn,

1277
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, everybody knows the story there, but

1278
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: in terms of progression, and taking a step this year

1279
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: has most benefited what member of the Pacers.

1280
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 8: Roster, well, really just all the younger guys, not just

1281
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 8: one guy. All the guys are getting playing time now

1282
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 8: because you gonna get Halbert Beck.

1283
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: They just made the trade, the big trade and so

1284
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 2: but the problem.

1285
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 8: Is, you know a lot of the guys you're hoping

1286
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 8: to get, you know more out of it, been hurt.

1287
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 8: But it's just any of the younger guys that were

1288
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 8: role players. And also what it helps too, no one

1289
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 8: talks about that kind of brings their value up is

1290
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 8: also trade bait. So you got guys that are putting

1291
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 8: up numbers that nobody really knew about. You know, if

1292
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 8: you don't have room for him on your team next

1293
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 8: year when you get everybody healthy and hopefully we get

1294
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 8: one of the top four picks because you know, if

1295
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 8: it gets below the Clippers get it. But now you've

1296
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 8: added value to some guys that didn't have value that

1297
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 8: it's not going to you know, be on your roster.

1298
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 8: You can actually get something for them. So it kind

1299
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 8: of works that the younger guys, role players that are

1300
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 8: going to still be part team, get playing time, get experienced,

1301
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 8: and then some guys that won't be around.

1302
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: They got plenty of time, they have.

1303
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 8: Added value and actually and it helps them too because

1304
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 8: now they're going to get a nice contract from you know,

1305
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 8: another team.

1306
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 1: Boozer DEBONSA Peterson Caleb Wilson of North Carolina. Of those four,

1307
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: which one do you find to be the most intriguing prospect?

1308
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: The kids from Yudy.

1309
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 8: Crown's name, Yeah, yeah, for me by far. You know,

1310
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 8: they're all very talented, but there's some questions, you know,

1311
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 8: I think for me from the kids from Kansas, dealing

1312
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 8: with not playing in all the games and people around them,

1313
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 8: you know, but very bal I mean, and you can't

1314
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 8: you really can't get away with that stuff in the NBA.

1315
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 8: You know, it's not it's in high school or college.

1316
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 8: We're paying you know, the NBA don't mess around either player.

1317
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 8: You don't or you get cut. So it'll be a

1318
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 8: little different. I think people see Peterson playing a lot

1319
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 8: more minutes in the NBA because you just can't have

1320
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 8: you know, an agent or somebody come tell the coaching staff,

1321
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 8: you know, he's sitting out the second half.

1322
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: Lastly, Pat, you know, and I for those that don't know,

1323
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: you are very close friends with Ryan Carr, who is

1324
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: now back at Indiana University. We've had him on the show. Obviously.

1325
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: Ryan was a member of the Pacer staff now at IU,

1326
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: helping Darren DeVries in terms of the orchestration and the

1327
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: building the construction of that roster. And you know, for

1328
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: you and I know that you had said all the

1329
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: people that were there at Indiana when things did not

1330
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: go as had planned with you and your dad at Indiana,

1331
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 1: those people are all gone now, right, But I I

1332
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: still think of, you know, as simply as simply all

1333
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: has to feel like home to you. I mean, it

1334
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: still has to feel like that is that's kind of

1335
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: the house you grew up in. Does it now feel

1336
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: like indeed that bridge is completely once again repaired where

1337
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: it is again home?

1338
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most definitely, And.

1339
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 8: Not just because Ryan's there, But I mean, you know,

1340
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 8: you get to point like just too old for that stuff.

1341
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 8: You know, there's no sense bickering and life is short.

1342
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 8: And then on the other hand, I really like, you know,

1343
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 8: because I really hadn't paid attention to the teams, I

1344
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 8: went down to the Oregon game they honored the seventy

1345
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 8: sixth team. I really like the style of play coach

1346
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 8: debris played. I mean, it's the modern version. He's got

1347
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 8: shooters and once they get you know, some inside help,

1348
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 8: I mean, people are going to be really excited. But

1349
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 8: you know, he got the job late, had a piece together,

1350
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 8: a whole roster, and so but I really like what

1351
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 8: he's done. And so that's even made it more fun

1352
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 8: for not just myself, but you know for some you know,

1353
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 8: some of my teammates I've talked to and everything and

1354
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 8: so and now we have Ryan there and you know,

1355
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 8: I talked to him yesterday, and those guys, they've been

1356
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 8: busy already, you know, dealing with that portal and setting

1357
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 8: up visits and and everything. And so I just think,

1358
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 8: you know, most people, I know how the fans are

1359
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 8: as instant coffee situation, but just be a little patient,

1360
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 8: and I think they'll really like the product they put

1361
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 8: on because they have a year underneath their belt. Know what,

1362
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 8: the Big ten, what it, you know, it takes to

1363
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 8: compete there, And now they got Ryan Carr to help

1364
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 8: him out. And so I think looking forward to, you know,

1365
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 8: a really good year next year. And I and I

1366
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 8: think I thought they were fun to watch this year,

1367
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 8: but I think it's just going to be a better

1368
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 8: team altogether next year to watch Pat.

1369
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 3: Do you know about the plans on when they are

1370
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: going to have your father's statue built and where it'll

1371
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 3: be or when the debut will off that statue will be.

1372
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 8: Just yet, It's take a while because I actually got

1373
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 8: uh some uh what would you call it, uh clay

1374
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 8: version or whatever?

1375
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: The mold and the mold.

1376
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's say, let's say they need to do a

1377
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 8: lot of change.

1378
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: So did they have been wearing a sport code or

1379
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: a sweater?

1380
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 8: It was a sport coat. Uh no, tie. Yeah, there's

1381
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 8: some things. Man, this is say two thousands. I offered

1382
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 8: my bibbleheads I've had made I thought looked better, and

1383
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 8: I offered I could get I'll check with my bibblehead guy,

1384
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 8: and I could get a life size one day.

1385
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: You know, you know you might be able to buy

1386
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: it from that same place you bought the life size Elvis. Right,

1387
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: did you use your discount, use your frequent discount?

1388
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 8: Right? But no, my bibblehead guy, because we went through

1389
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 8: the same process with the bibbleheads. I mean just getting

1390
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,560
Speaker 8: it right. You know, you gotta get the face, you

1391
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 8: gotta get the features, and so I'm you know, I'm

1392
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 8: heavily involved in it because this guy look right.

1393
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: So let's just say the first rendering I'm not a

1394
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 2: fan of. So he's got to be plenty of times.

1395
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: It's got to be him standing where he used to

1396
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: put his left hand in his right hand, like like

1397
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: he was teaching, you know what I'm talking about, How

1398
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: he would stand up and like have his hands out

1399
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: in front of him. That's got to be the pose, right,

1400
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: That's what I want.

1401
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 8: But you know you put a pose. Uh, you know,

1402
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 8: let's just say theoretically he was holding a program in

1403
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,480
Speaker 8: his hand. He's never held appropriate.

1404
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: John Wooden stuff there. That's John Wooden right.

1405
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 8: Exactly, yes, and coach heated that or having a ball

1406
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 8: underneath his arm, you know. So, But just so everybody knows,

1407
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 8: you know, because I owe my dad's in il, right,

1408
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 8: so I have the authority to kabash it.

1409
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 2: I'll make sure it's right.

1410
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 1: And it will be where will it be placed once

1411
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: it's done? Where it be placed?

1412
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: Well, now there's.

1413
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 8: An art you know people have talked about, you know

1414
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 8: inside where all the other statues are, and there's a

1415
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 8: group of players that and people that like it. Outside

1416
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 8: you know, so you can always you know, see it

1417
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 8: before you get inside. And so they're still trying to

1418
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 8: figure that out. I'm just trying to make sure it

1419
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 8: looks good and then you know, they can figure out

1420
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 8: where they want to put it. But let's just say

1421
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 8: it's not it's going to be a little while because

1422
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 8: you've got to make sure you got to do it right, right, Yeah, yeah,

1423
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 8: Because well my comment was, if you guys seen Happy

1424
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 8: Go More.

1425
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, I haven't seen it, sober you.

1426
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: Remember his bus?

1427
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay for Ronaldo Ronaldo's yeah, yeah, So I'll

1428
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: leave I'll.

1429
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: Leave it to day all right.

1430
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: Well, listen, they can put the Bod Knight statue inside

1431
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: Cook Hall or you know, inside the Assembly Hall, and

1432
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: then the Pat Knight statue goes outside and for of

1433
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: Jackson Heights. That's the compromise.

1434
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 8: There you go, No, I want I want Kilroy sportsbark.

1435
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's that's legendary enough Jay and B's told

1436
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: us about that. All right, we'll leave it at that.

1437
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 8: On a stool, just on a stool like Norman the

1438
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 8: one end, just on a stool.

1439
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, all right, Pat, by the way,

1440
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: what are you back working again.

1441
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 8: Do we know yet, LB July, that's when all the

1442
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 8: NBA doesn't hire him.

1443
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: But I actually got a gig this week.

1444
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 8: I'm a consult for an AI company that, uh it's

1445
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 8: gonna cut down film like by hundreds of hours.

1446
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: You just honest, guy.

1447
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 8: These guys showed me this deal and they need somebody

1448
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 8: to help them open doors for them. And so I

1449
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 8: got a consultant deal with them and on the side,

1450
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 8: and I mean it's the most amazing thing. You just

1451
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 8: look at the computer and say, I want you know,

1452
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 8: let's say, I want the five best plays against Yukon's

1453
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 8: pick and roll, and I'm not lying. Within a minute,

1454
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 8: here comes the video of praise.

1455
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah it is.

1456
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 8: But yeah, July, hopefully all right, we'll.

1457
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: Have you on before then. All right, guys, all right,

1458
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it Pat Night joining us on the program. We

1459
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 1: come back more into what he was just talking about,

1460
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and that is.

1461
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 3: I think that's the first time we've had Pat on

1462
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: that I haven't had to hit the dumb up.

1463
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Good point. He caught himself there, right,

1464
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:38,839
Speaker 1: He twice caught himself. Pat's maturing in his older age.

1465
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: TV numbers say one thing, opinion says another. On college basketball,

1466
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: we'll explain that dichotomy next. Speaking of by the way,

1467
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: exactly that month, even though he's saying me right there.

1468
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: For those that are interested, it will be coming up

1469
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: on I believe the twenty seventh the first airing of

1470
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: Beyond the Bricks Mike Thompson and I thank you Eddie

1471
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: getting back into the mix of doing Beyond the Bricks,

1472
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: getting those recorded, getting those some of them will be live,

1473
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: of course, but we have a number of different of course,

1474
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: Mike has a huge collection of audio over the course

1475
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis five hundred and its history that has

1476
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: never aired. And this year excited about the fact that

1477
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: we have Ritchie Murray, who is the fabulous pr Rep

1478
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: for USAK, facilitated for some new audio of a lot

1479
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: of the victory banquet speeches and acceptance speeches from Indianapolis

1480
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: five hundred drivers of the early to mid sixties that wow,

1481
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: has kind of been buried from yesteryear, and so we'll

1482
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: hear some of those. I think Jim Hurdaby's may be

1483
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: one of the first ones that we feature in that regard,

1484
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: but look forward to doing beyond the bricks again, coming

1485
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: up up here in the Monday of May. And that

1486
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: is the sound that we will hear before you know it.

1487
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: And I look forward to all of it, of course,

1488
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: and everything that goes in with the world's Greatest race.

1489
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: Pat mentioned and we've talked about with the transfer portal,

1490
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: and I certainly understand this. I think the first time

1491
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: that I really was keen or aware of this school

1492
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: of thought was in nineteen eighty six, Danny Manning was

1493
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: on the cover of Sports Illustrated and there was a

1494
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: big article about him. Matter of fact, Danny Manning was

1495
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: somewhat on the radar already to people around here, even

1496
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: though by eighty six he was, you know, a legit

1497
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: All American candidate as a sophomore at Kansas. But a

1498
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: great trivia question was the fact that back in those times,

1499
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: Manning was already kind of on the radar for Indiana

1500
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: fans before even he had played at KU. Because Danny

1501
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: Manning and del Ray Brooks were the only two high

1502
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: school players that were invited to try out for the

1503
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: eighty four Olympic team that was coached by Bob Knight.

1504
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: And so the fact that del Ray Brooks who was

1505
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: from Michigan City, was the mister basketball and was down

1506
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: there at the Olympic Trials. Everybody in Indiana was aware

1507
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: of that, and then Manning, by association was on the radar.

1508
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: So I was familiar with Danny Manning, but I remember

1509
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: him being on the cover of Sports Illustrated and he

1510
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: was a sophomore at KU and at that time I

1511
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself, how good is this guy going

1512
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: to be by the time he's a senior. Well, pretty

1513
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: good because he not only was the number one player

1514
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: selected in the eighty eight draft, in which, by the way,

1515
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: in the final Pacers game the season before, I was

1516
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: interviewed on Channel thirteen as a fan by saying that

1517
01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: I hope the Pacers actually would not so that they

1518
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: would have a chance at the number one selection for

1519
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: in the draft with well, it wasn't the last game,

1520
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: but it was towards the end of the year and

1521
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: I was being interviewed and I said, no, I want

1522
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: them to get the number one pick so they can

1523
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: get Danny Manning out of Kansas. They ended up with

1524
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: Rick Smiths, who might have been a better pro over

1525
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: the course of time than Manning, but the thought and

1526
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: the anticipation of what would be of Danny Manning, who

1527
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: would go on to win at eighty eight, and those

1528
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: things of knowing and prognosticating and forecasting what players would

1529
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 1: be a couple of years out, or seeing a player

1530
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: as a senior or as a junior that had been

1531
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: on the map for a while, and the anticipation and

1532
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: the development of piece by piece and seeing teams come

1533
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: together over the course of time. Those were part of

1534
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: what made college basketball so special through the eighties, nineties,

1535
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: twenty you know, twenty twenty tens, and et cetera. Once

1536
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: you got into the era then of the one or

1537
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: two and done, that went away obviously, and you know

1538
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: you have a team like a Jared Jefferies has an

1539
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: unbelievable year and goes pro after a sophomore year, or

1540
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: Glenn Robinson has the most dominant year I've ever seen

1541
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: in college basketball and goes pro after his junior year,

1542
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: which at that time, even that you know, in today's day,

1543
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: he would have been gone after one year if he'd

1544
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: even gone to college. You have to go for a year,

1545
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: I realized. But he was the prop forty eight back

1546
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: when that existed. But you get my point, and so

1547
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: there is the thought of the portal is going to

1548
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: hurt college basketball as we know it because of the

1549
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: fact that what you're losing out on is that ability

1550
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: and that excitement and that anticipation. And back in those days,

1551
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: of course, you also had four year players at the

1552
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: mid majors which were creating the Cinderella stories, the ball

1553
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: State to the Sweet sixth, the Cornell and the Sweet sixteen,

1554
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: the David's into the Elite Eight, and those scenarios are

1555
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: becoming fewer and further between, and March Madness is a

1556
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: little more sane in terms of the expectation of what

1557
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: teams are winning. And we can sit here and you

1558
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: and myself and Eddie and anybody else can sit here

1559
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: and jump up down and say that's hurting college basketball,

1560
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: but the numbers say otherwise. The Elite Eight broadcast averaged

1561
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: ten point three million viewers per game, a nine percent

1562
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: increase from a year ago. The Yukon Duke game. When

1563
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: Braylan Mullins hit that shot, roughly nineteen people were watching it.

1564
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: Nineteen million people were watching it.

1565
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 3: I'd say I was one in nineteen people, right.

1566
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: Nineteen million people were watching it. Those are staggering numbers,

1567
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: and the reality is that we say, and we long for,

1568
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: and we desire the Saint Peter's trying to knock off

1569
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: North Carolina game, or the ball State hanging with UNLV game,

1570
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: or Butler balancing out Michigan State. But the research indicates

1571
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: that people still are drawn to Duke, Kansas, North Carolina, Yukon. Now,

1572
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: of course, part of that is because those are familiar brands,

1573
01:23:55,400 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 1: and as perhaps the Portal and nil dilot down and

1574
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: the consistency of those brands, maybe over time that also

1575
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: has the effect that we pretend is happening right now

1576
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: of diminished television ratings. But as of right now, the

1577
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: numbers don't back up the theory.

1578
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 3: I don't think the TV ratings are going to go down, Jake,

1579
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 3: because last year and this year, once you got to

1580
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 3: like the Sweet sixteen, Elite eight, Final four, you were

1581
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: getting the best teams against the best teams, and I

1582
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 3: think that's what everyone wants to see. They want to

1583
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 3: see the Cinderella, they want to see the Furman, they

1584
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: want to see high points get to the Sweet sixteen,

1585
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: and that's it. You want to see them get to there.

1586
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 3: You don't want to see them get any further, because

1587
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 3: then they're going to run into a duke, they'll run

1588
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 3: into a Connecticut and they'll get absolutely waxed. And then

1589
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: the game just becomes boring and you turn it off

1590
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 3: and you go outside, if it's a nice weather day,

1591
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 3: try to get some right, you know, later on your

1592
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 3: fertilizer or whatever. But you want to you want to

1593
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 3: see the truest of the blue blads in the powerhouse

1594
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 3: programs going at it in the sweet sixteen the ilyinate

1595
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 3: the final four to the championship. I don't think we're

1596
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 3: going to get a championship like it was. Is that

1597
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 3: five years ago, three four years ago, where it's eight

1598
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 3: seeded Yukon and nine seeded San Diego State, right like

1599
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 3: those days are over.

1600
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: It feels that way, and it does feel like whenever

1601
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: those teams get to the you know the Danny and

1602
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 1: the Miracles eighty eight Kansas team, when those higher seed teams,

1603
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: larger numbered seed teams get to the final four on

1604
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: occasion LSU and eighty six, you know that Kansas team

1605
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: had just mentioned to your point. You know, San Diego State,

1606
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: Florida Atlantic teams like that when they get there more

1607
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: often than not that becomes their ceiling. I mean the

1608
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: eighty eight Kansas team kind of the exception. By the way, Yes,

1609
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: I know. Del Ray Brooks was a co mister basketball

1610
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: with Troy Lewis, who was the better player of the

1611
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: two and had the better career, and my favorite Purdue

1612
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: player of all time not named Glenn Robinson, who was

1613
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 1: unbelievable to watch.

1614
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 3: Within the last area. Found a couple of players into

1615
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 3: the portal Jake yesterday.

1616
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: It was a hang on, can you hang on to it? Yeah,

1617
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: hang on to it. Let me think about it and

1618
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: see if I can tell you who it is. I'll

1619
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: try it next. Here's the easiest way to say it.

1620
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: Half the players you know of are in the portal.

1621
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: True now Butler and Ronald Norid is of course building

1622
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 1: a new roster at Butler. They got another commitment here.

1623
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. As a matter of fact, this just did.

1624
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: We could even probably list this as breaking news. Eddie,

1625
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: do you happen to have the breaking news happen? Brazilian

1626
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: national and old Miss shooting guard Eduardo klothgay I did

1627
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: leave them saying that, correct? Oh you said, Edward o'clofk

1628
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:07,919
Speaker 1: not EDWARDO. Garrison Okay, that's right. Edwardo Klofka commits to Butler.

1629
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: He is a forty four percent three point shooter and

1630
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: is now a Bulldog six' five sophomore, or in the

1631
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: words Of Chuck crab sophomore six' five sophomore average four point,

1632
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: six points two point five rebounds per game last Year

1633
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: At ole miss and is Now A. Butler bulldog there

1634
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: are numerous players that are in and it is easier

1635
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: to simply list which players we know. ARE not, i,

1636
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: mean Like in, Indiana's Case trent sisley, is returning we.

1637
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Know that in the Case, Of perdue obermeyer. Is back

1638
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 1: we Know That.

1639
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: NICK dorn i think is going Back. To indiana have

1640
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,799
Speaker 3: not gotten like an official statement.

1641
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: Of that he can bottle up that one game actually

1642
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: hit like a game and.

1643
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: A half yeah it. Was three it was a three. Game,

1644
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 3: stretch yeah it Was the Purdue game uclac those THREE that's.

1645
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,879
Speaker 1: I think. That's right he was in. The, Zone okay

1646
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: i'm in the.

1647
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 3: Flow State As aaron eastmith put it with us in

1648
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 3: the preseason lean up to start of, the year.

1649
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Is that when he said Against the knicks he was

1650
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: in the? Flow, stage, yeah, yeah yeah he was definitely

1651
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: that what players collegiately on the National scene eddie have

1652
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: entered The Fray.

1653
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: Robert right the THIRD from byu as a guy that

1654
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 3: was a Third Team All big twelve selection last year

1655
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 3: AS a i think he was.

1656
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: A freshman, he improves but that by one team does

1657
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: he become the second.

1658
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 3: That's a, good question that's a. Great question he averaged

1659
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: eighteen points in five fourign, half assists shot forty from three.

1660
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 3: Last year he'll be up there in terms of one

1661
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,839
Speaker 3: of the top guards available in the. Transfer, Portal, yesterday

1662
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 3: jake we learned about and there's some other international GUYS

1663
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 3: that i don't know how to say their. LAST names i,

1664
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 3: don't know going to give it. A try One from

1665
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 3: duke Is, a ford Another from nebraska that was a.

1666
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Four word.

1667
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 3: But yesterday we learned about the human anatomy a little

1668
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: bit when we're examining The ny drew report from The,

1669
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 3: the pacers and we learned it's. Not sacral, it's, Sacral.

1670
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: Right yeah? That's right or is it the important, You,

1671
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 1: know no it's it's definitely.

1672
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 2: The.

1673
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: Sacral, sacral, yeah sacral, Not sacral it's not there is

1674
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: it's a. Sacral, contusion yes which is a part of the. Coc, sicks, okay,

1675
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: uh jizzle we're Learning About gisel. James Today the cincinnati

1676
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: bearcout son of Vegri and james is in the. Transfer

1677
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: portal he's actually a pretty, good player by, the Way

1678
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: from cincinnati average eleven points, last year shot forty four

1679
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: percent beyond the oc the is That Your new york

1680
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: accent that You're Using.

1681
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 3: Eddie white drops and every now and then on the

1682
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 3: okay and then other transfer, Port, News jake this Is

1683
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 3: From jeff goodman about an, Hour ago Kansas big Man, From.

1684
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 3: Cocomo Indiana floria, Badunga's LIST.

1685
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh, i, guess yes how many, schools, one, two three?

1686
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 2: And?

1687
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Four okay and those make up how many? Different? Conferences.

1688
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: Three okay i'm going to say the List For, floria

1689
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 1: BADUNGA who i think may ENTER The, Nba draft but

1690
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 1: we shall see if there is transfer portal. Stuff here

1691
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 1: i'm going to go with school. Number one i'm going

1692
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: to say that he is Interested. In michigan You mean

1693
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: michigan is interested? In him this is his list or

1694
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: the list of who's reached out. To him This is i'm, Assuming,

1695
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: both okay but so, you're saying According To, jeff goodman

1696
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: this is the list of schools that it's down To For. Floria,

1697
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: berdunga okay and there, are four, Right four michigan is one.

1698
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 7: Of.

1699
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: THEM okay i will say Then That michigan state is on.

1700
01:30:52,760 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: The list i'm actually going to say that kans is on. The,

1701
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: List no i'll Say The fighting Hoosiers. Of, indiana no that.

1702
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: Surprises me there are, four teams. Three conferences you have

1703
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: three teams two. Conferences left michigan is The only big

1704
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: ten team on this List From. Jeff goodman and you

1705
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: said there's, three conferences, three conferences only have. Two, Left

1706
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: okay so obviously that takes the suspense out. Of It

1707
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: if indiana is not one of Them and purdue is,

1708
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: not either then? Right, Yep okay so at that point

1709
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: we're Just but I'll say, Alabama, no okay, go ahead and.

1710
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 3: You've got two in the acc do you want to

1711
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 3: get you want to guess before, it turn.

1712
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Go and Throw It north carolina into, the mix not

1713
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: The tar. Heels, Rival, okay duke that.

1714
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: Is.

1715
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 3: Correct okay do you know who my Only friend alec

1716
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 3: is a. Fan of he's actually going on a visit

1717
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: There With jackson Shelstad of oregon together to, this school to.

1718
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 3: THIS school i don't know when, it IS but i

1719
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 3: know it. Is soon is It a marquee?

1720
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Basketball, Program Yeah, florida State, no miami, all right hit Me, louis, okay.

1721
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: YEAH yea i should have, done that and then.

1722
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 3: The fifth Team on.

1723
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Florrie's list, RIGHT now i still have a hard time

1724
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Thinking of louisville and THE, a sec as odd as

1725
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,440
Speaker 1: that sounds, to say out Of The, Big, east Syracuse,

1726
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: no yukhon No, vill Nova, no butler no hit Me.

1727
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 3: The, Johnny's Okay So, Derek Michigan, saint Johns.

1728
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 1: AND louisville i Thought For florida badunga That that indiana

1729
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: certainly would be in. THAT conversation i think there was

1730
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: A lot there were a lot, of people still are

1731
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: a lot. Of People and i'm not saying that he,

1732
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: won't be But that Haroldson and badunga are two That

1733
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: most indiana fans look towards, and, thought man, you know

1734
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: we would love to see.

1735
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 3: THEM there i don't think you can Rule Out marcus.

1736
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 3: BURTON either i believe that was. The Name zach.

1737
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 1: Ostterman tossed out there during the conversation with Him on

1738
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: monday Or two monday on, this show as he Lobbied

1739
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: That marcus burton could be another one to be keeping

1740
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: your an eye On.

1741
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 3: With indiana and you have to wonder how much of

1742
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 3: this is money related and how much are those schools

1743
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 3: offering Him that indiana may not be willing.

1744
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: To, OFFER well i would think money related in the

1745
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Case of badonga a, huge amount because you can go TO.

1746
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: THE nba i mean he WOULD be i think at,

1747
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: This Point floria badunga is probably a high twenties early thirties,

1748
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: draft pick and that, you know then you straddle between

1749
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: guaranteed money and non. Guaranteed money, but nonetheless you could

1750
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,799
Speaker 1: certainly use that against a college program that is bringing

1751
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: you in, and, says hey you want to. Come here,

1752
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: you know we'll give you five. Hundred grand five. HUNDRED

1753
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: grand i can go play for the main red clar

1754
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: law as to make seven.

1755
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,759
Speaker 3: To, fifty yeah he's getting if he stays, in college

1756
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,440
Speaker 3: it'll be around three to, four, million.

1757
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 1: Totally, No question That's what. I'M saying, i mean five.

1758
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: HUNDRED gred i threw a, low number but you Get

1759
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: what i'm saying you can, you know and again that

1760
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: how much of? THAT money i think the thing that

1761
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: is the most intriguing at, this, point yeap is you

1762
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: are going to now. Get players we want to talk.

1763
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: About How and i'm not sitting here as. SOME listen

1764
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: i don't want it to. Be misunderstood i'm not jumping

1765
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: him down as like, some big huge proponent of the

1766
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,839
Speaker 1: portal and nil and. All that but at, this point

1767
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: the toothpaste is out of. The tube we're past the

1768
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: POINT of, i mean you remember the original thing this.

1769
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: All began this all began Because of ed O'Bannon and

1770
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: a video game, and saying wait, a, minute ea sports

1771
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: is profiting off, my name, my image or, my likeness

1772
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 1: and that began a long court battle before eventually what

1773
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: happened was the courts decided THAT the ncaa could not

1774
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: prohibit a player from financially gaining off of, their name,

1775
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: their image or. Their likeness, and initially when that decision,

1776
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: came down the, thought was and it's a, cute narrative

1777
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: it's cute of us that we, thought this but there

1778
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: were really people, that, thought oh well this. Is fine

1779
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: that means that this Is fine all that means is

1780
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: that they Can Put little johnny's jersey in the bookstore

1781
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: and he Can Take little sally out for pizza and

1782
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: dinner twice, a week or he can do an ad

1783
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 1: for the local barbershop and get a. Free, haircut well

1784
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 1: then of course it turned into WELL and i Can't

1785
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: remember eddie will have to look, this UP and i should,

1786
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,560
Speaker 1: know THIS and i totally APOLOGIZE that i forget. THE

1787
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: name i, always do but it is a, Local Player,

1788
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: Nigel Pack, nigel pack. Thank you you got four hundred

1789
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:20,839
Speaker 1: grand to Go To miami and what in, The, world

1790
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: well that was Because in indiana was ahead. Of everybody

1791
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:34,480
Speaker 1: indiana football Is where indiana football Is Because indiana athletics

1792
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: saw before everybody else what happens when you can do

1793
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 1: your own collectives and have your own gathered resource with

1794
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: that independently then or like as a, third party you

1795
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: could facilitate the payment of players where you the university

1796
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: are not directly, paying them but you have the collective

1797
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 1: that is doing it. For you and they were way

1798
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,839
Speaker 1: ahead of everybody else, on this and That's why. Indiana

1799
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: football once They, got signetti it, was, like okay they

1800
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: completely flipped, their roster and They, got mendoza, for example

1801
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: and they were ahead of the game and they, basketball

1802
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 1: wise because they made a, coaching change it. Hurt them

1803
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: but now, they have like we Mentioned With, ryan carr

1804
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: like a general manager to go through and look at

1805
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 1: the roster and figure out who's going to who they,

1806
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: can get and who they can pay and. Whatever else

1807
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: so it's Not that i'm sitting here jumping up and

1808
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: down saying this is the greatest. Thing ever but this

1809
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: is where. We are it's the reality. Of it and

1810
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: you're either gonna sink you're gonna swim if you don't get.

1811
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: On board and that's the era of where we ARE

1812
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: with nil and the, transfer portal and there are ups

1813
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: and downs and yins and yangs of what it can

1814
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: do to bolster and or detract from the. Game itself

1815
01:37:53,720 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: but it is my FEELING that nil actually opens up

1816
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: and reveals the hypocrisy in all. Of Us and i'm

1817
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 1: as guilty. As Anybody and i'll REHASH what i was

1818
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: talking about on the, other side and something up coming

1819
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: in the sports calendar that you people go. Crazy over

1820
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: we'll get into that. As well by, the way haven't

1821
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: gotten into, this yet but maybe, should have because one

1822
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 1: thing we know is That the patriots are not the

1823
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 1: most loved Franchise. In indianapolis maybe it's not, football related

1824
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: but it's been a rough Week For. Mike brabel do you, See?

1825
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 1: THIS eddie i think it's Rougher For. Diana russini now why? Is,

1826
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 1: that well are you Familiar With, Diana? RUSSINI jake I

1827
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: mean i am now because of the Situation With, Mike

1828
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 1: brabel but enlighten me on why this field it's worse.

1829
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 3: For her this isn't the first time she's been accused

1830
01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 3: of having a relationship with somebody in a position of

1831
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 3: power WITHIN. The nfl.

1832
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: So this allegation Is That mike Rabel And diana rossini

1833
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: are is it on a vacation or in they were

1834
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 1: spotted on a Resort somewhere and.

1835
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 3: They were spotted at an adult only Resort in arizona two,

1836
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 3: weeks ago and they were, caught hugging, interlocking fingers, holding

1837
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 3: hands ye laying next to each other at, the pool

1838
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 3: sitting next to each other in a. Hot tub that

1839
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 3: claimed that they were each there with a group. Of

1840
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 3: friends rabel said he was with a group of. Three

1841
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 3: guys she said she was with a group of like,

1842
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 3: six girls but according to people from, page six there

1843
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 3: was no groups of friends there. And attendance it appeared

1844
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 3: it was just the two of. Them together this would

1845
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 3: have been a week prior TO The nfl, Owners.

1846
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Meetings and now it just it's coming out of, the,

1847
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: woodwork right people like pulling up old interviews that, were

1848
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 1: done like all the how how much they, get along.

1849
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 3: Et cetera, uh, huh yeah. But uh ten eleven, years

1850
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 3: ago she was accused by the wife of the then

1851
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 3: general manager Of The washington Redskins Now washington commanders of

1852
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 3: inappropriate acts that led to her getting pieces of information

1853
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 3: that other reporters were. Not getting and then his wife

1854
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 3: retracted her statement. And apologized.

1855
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,520
Speaker 1: And you're saying this now leads credence to. That, retroactively

1856
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: yeah it's a it's just another thing on the resume

1857
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: or that doesn't look good.

1858
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 3: For her, you know.

1859
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:56,480
Speaker 1: She, is currently by, the WAY an nfl reporter For. The, Athletic, correctly.

1860
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah she's THE senior nfl insider For.

1861
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: The, athletic yes Obviously On sunday COUNTDOWN And. Nfl live.

1862
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: Uh huh the transfer portal is open. For business we

1863
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 1: just talked about that in going over the players that are,

1864
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: in It and i'm going to go back TO what i.

1865
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: Said earlier when it comes to the, TRANSFER portal i

1866
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 1: have to be realistic about. This fact it would be

1867
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: probably easy and expected of me to sit here and

1868
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: critique players that are going into the portal, the, name,

1869
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: image likeness the money that's involved and shred, the credibility

1870
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: the passion and all of that. Of PLAYERS and i

1871
01:41:54,760 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: think that sometimes when you turn on, the radio you

1872
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: hear people that take the alternate opinion because it's the

1873
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 1: easy thing, to do or it's the shocking thing, to do,

1874
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 1: and frankly it's the lazy thing.

1875
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 2: To do.

1876
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Now you can turn on the radio and hear that.

1877
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: A lot i actually Hear, in indie probably one less

1878
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: time than you used to be. Able to but but

1879
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: that laziness, To me i've always tried not to. Do

1880
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: that that's not to SAY that i don't err from time,

1881
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 1: to time but the, POINT being. I DON'T if i

1882
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: have an opinion that goes against, the grain it's Not

1883
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: because i'm doing it with Intention of it's not you're

1884
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,879
Speaker 1: creating a shock. And awe it's not my. STICK correct

1885
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: i take pride in one of the great compliments that any,

1886
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: broadcaster gets not. Just me it's not isolated, to ME

1887
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:08,799
Speaker 1: but i truly take it. To Heart when i'm talking

1888
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 1: to somebody and, they, say man you sound just like

1889
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: you do on, the Radio and, i'm like it's because

1890
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 1: this is EXACTLY who.

1891
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 3: I am that's the humility and You, Jak no.

1892
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm not, saying THAT but, i, mean like. IT'S not, i,

1893
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: mean yeah But what i'm Saying, is eddie it's not

1894
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: a character nobody at this. RADIO station I mean i

1895
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: See obviously john all, THE time I see kevin all.

1896
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: THE time I see Boyd and ricker all, the time and.

1897
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: We're all that's ONE thing i THINK that i really

1898
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 1: like about what we do here is it's just who.

1899
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: We are we just go on the air and it's who.

1900
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: WE are i don't try to, portray ANYTHING but i

1901
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: am here to admit that. There is.

1902
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 2: TO me.

1903
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: I recognized what would have been a hypocrisy about myself

1904
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to the portal and. The nil and let.

1905
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 1: ME explain i go back TO when i was. A

1906
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 1: kid i knew where every driveway in my neighborhood was

1907
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 1: with a, basketball backboard and they were still to, THIS

1908
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 1: day i drive through my parents' old neighborhood and. It's

1909
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 1: amazing it kind of makes me sad because all of

1910
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 1: the backboards that you see above a garage or in

1911
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: the driveway. Are faded the nets, look old the rims aren't,

1912
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 1: His orange they're bent a, little bit the wood is.

1913
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Dried out, i'm, like man do kids not do the

1914
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 1: backboard in the? Driveway ANYMORE but i guess they're all playing.

1915
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Travel BALL but. I played i don't even know how

1916
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 1: MANY hours i spent in the driveway. SHOOTING hoops I

1917
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: mean i did it all, day LONG and i dreamed

1918
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 1: of Playing. FOR indiana i dreamed of Playing For. BOB

1919
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: knight i hit ten thousand baseline jump shots in the

1920
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 1: driveway THINKING that I Was. Randy whitman at halftime of

1921
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: the eighties one, TITLE game i hit five hundred thousand

1922
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,520
Speaker 1: shots from the top of the key and, the DRIVEWAY

1923
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: thinking I Was. Jay Edwards, AGAINST michigan i hit seventeen

1924
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: hundred driving LAYUPS that i pulled up to fire from

1925
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: three feet away and let it roll in, just RIGHT

1926
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: pretending I Was steve Alfred at michigan and it goes.

1927
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 1: WITHOUT saying i can't tell you how MANY times i

1928
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 1: faked to, the right took one step to, the left

1929
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: and shot a baseline jump shot from the left, hand

1930
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 1: side because that was what we saw when You. Watched

1931
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 1: indiana and that didn't make me unique. At all There

1932
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 1: Was chris bell across the street. From me his parents

1933
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: had a perfect basketball court in, the Backyard perfect Chris And.

1934
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: Greg Bell chris bell had never. Beat HIM crap I

1935
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: Played chris bell in twenty One and horace and everything

1936
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: else ten. Thousand times he's ten thousand. AND zero i never.

1937
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Beat him it's two years ahead of Me. At Cathedral

1938
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: But chris bell WAS a. Prewf fan he shot a

1939
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: million shots thinking that He Was troy Lewis Or steven

1940
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Scheffler Or jim rowinski's what happens when you grow Up.

1941
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 1: In indiana and the other thing that happens is that you

1942
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 1: assume that all of the players that are afforded the

1943
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to play at those schools that you dreamed, of

1944
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 1: playing that you acted out in, your driveway that they

1945
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: would hold to it at the same dear level within

1946
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: their heart that. You did and now you're, an adult

1947
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 1: and instead of dreaming of playing for, those schools you're

1948
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 1: happy about the fact that you've got the booster money

1949
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 1: and the season ticket money and the nil collective donation

1950
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: to make it possible for other kids now to have

1951
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity to fulfill the dream that eluded you of

1952
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: playing at. That school and so for that reason you

1953
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 1: assume and you expect that those players will have the

1954
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: same passion about that school and understand the privilege that

1955
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: has bestowed upon them that. Escaped you so there is

1956
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:22,520
Speaker 1: a standard you hold them to where you can't possibly

1957
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 1: fathom that they wouldn't dream of playing four years and

1958
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: get the chance to cut down the nets wearing the

1959
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: jersey of the school that you, grew up doing anything

1960
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: you could every time you blew out the candles of your,

1961
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: birthday cake wishing that you in fact could Play Inside,

1962
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 1: assembly hall Or, inside maccerine Or Inside, hincklefield house or

1963
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 1: Inside The Joyce Athletic. Convention center and it would be

1964
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 1: easy for me to sit here, And say i've got

1965
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 1: to papoo all these guys for not understanding and for

1966
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 1: taking for granted and walking away from what it was

1967
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:01,799
Speaker 1: that the rest of us would dream we. Could do except,

1968
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: FOR this i couldn't Go. TO indiana I knew i

1969
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 1: couldn't Go. TO indiana i applied to three schools my

1970
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: senior or. High school with my two point two grade

1971
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: point average and my four hundred and eighty second. CLASS

1972
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 1: rank i did have high, test SCORES but i applied to.

1973
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: THREE schools i Applied To ball state because they had

1974
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:27,879
Speaker 1: a good program in radio. And TELEVISION and i Applied

1975
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: to Alabama and kansas BECAUSE when i Went to beatalton

1976
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: bookseller and bought the Book of College, AND universities i took.

1977
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: A ruler i wedged it down the right hand side

1978
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: of that book SO that i had the power to

1979
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: lift the seventy five percent on the left side of

1980
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: the book that were the highly competitive and competitive and

1981
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: somewhat competitive in terms of. Academic ADMISSIONS and i flung

1982
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: that thing over to the right hand side, and said,

1983
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 1: all right what schools are? Least competitive who's going to let?

1984
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: Me IN and i myself in POSITION where i KNEW

1985
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,759
Speaker 1: academically i was not going to get Admitted. To INDIANA

1986
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: so i Went, to KANSAS and i thought that'd be right.

1987
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: For me.

1988
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: LOOKED, like iu Sounded like iu played Basketball, like Iu,

1989
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 1: not iu and deep down at, My core iu IS

1990
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: where i wanted.

1991
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 4: To be.

1992
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 1: AND so i. WAS miserable i, WAS homesick i, WAS

1993
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: immature i. WAS arrogant, i know, it's shocking and it didn't,

1994
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 1: go WELL and i had to come home and pick

1995
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 1: up the pieces and go To to iepui and then

1996
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 1: ultimately Transferred, to INDIANA where i didn't even FINISH because

1997
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: i still had hours LEFT when i went into. The

1998
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: workplace and two and a half, YEARS ago i went

1999
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: back and finished my degree online, technically speaking portaled through

2000
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 1: the online computer System Of Indiana. University kokomo, so Technically

2001
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 1: what i'm getting, at is over the course of my,

2002
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 1: COLLEGE career i attended, four UNIVERSITIES and i transferred from

2003
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: one to the NEXT because i was in seek of

2004
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 1: the situation that was best.

2005
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 2: FOR me.

2006
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 1: I had to find the situation that allowed me the,

2007
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: comfort level, the confidence and the ability to better myself

2008
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: by being in the. Right environment AND therefore, i TRANSFERRED

2009
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: and i, transferred AGAIN and i transferred again and then finished.

2010
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:37,799
Speaker 1: Somewhere else and no ONE when i tell, that story,

2011
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 1: no One and. I'd admired if, THEY did i wouldn't

2012
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: be offended. AT all i wouldn't be offended at all

2013
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 1: at all that, people said maybe you should have mind

2014
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 1: your p's and q's to, begin with and you wouldn't

2015
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: have had to go that. Circuitous, route true but no one.

2016
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,839
Speaker 1: Says that what everyone, says, is man that. Is awesome

2017
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 1: that is awesome that. You finished and what an inspiring story.

2018
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: Of perseverance what an inspiring story. Of perseverance and throughout

2019
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 1: my school years when that was all, TAKING place i

2020
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: had plenty, of friends as we all. Did THAT when

2021
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: i was shooting hoops in the BACKYARD and i was

2022
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 1: playing twenty ONE and i was in, the driveway there

2023
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: were GUYS that i. Played Against josh shimrow grew up

2024
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 1: right down the street, from me played a ton of

2025
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 1: Sports With. Josh shimrow, One Day josh shimrow came home,

2026
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: and said. We're moving. You're, moving yep. We're moving where

2027
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,600
Speaker 1: are you Moving, To? Memphis tennessee why are you Moving, To?

2028
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 1: Memphis tennessee my dad got a job that pays a little, bit,

2029
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 1: More OKAY and i didn't think anything, of it nor did.

2030
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 1: Anybody else because In the, american culture people are willing

2031
01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: to uproot their entire family moved their kids out. Of

2032
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: school why is it that houses are suddenly for sale

2033
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 1: everywhere in the Month of may in the Month. Of,

2034
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: june well it's because people get an opportunity to move

2035
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 1: to a. New place they wait until the kids are out,

2036
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 1: of school and then they're uprooting the family and. They're

2037
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: moving and they got to do it because mom or

2038
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 1: dad got a raise of eight grand, fifteen grand. Two

2039
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 1: percent rais got to uproot. The family and we don't

2040
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: think anything, Of That and i'd never thought anything. Of

2041
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 1: it SO when i began to think that it was

2042
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: selfish of college basketball players to transfer from one school

2043
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: to the next to find a situation that was better,

2044
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: FOR them i realized that to indict that was to

2045
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 1: indict myself and, be hypocritical because at the TIME that

2046
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: i did it and went, through it it was what

2047
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 1: was best. For ME maybe i didn't even know it at.

2048
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 1: The time AND when i hear people talk about how

2049
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 1: they're fatigued by players transferring and changing schools all, THE

2050
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: time i now realize that that is culturally and for

2051
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 1: all of us on a, societal, standpoint hypocritical because most,

2052
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: of us when it comes to just being a. Normal

2053
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 1: student applaud that we. Champion it we find, it inspiring

2054
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: we find it to be commendable that you realize and

2055
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: recognized that a situation wasn't what was best, for you

2056
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 1: which takes us to the money side, of it and

2057
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: the money side of it SAYS that i can sit

2058
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: there and say all, Day, long Yeah but i'm so

2059
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 1: offended that this guy's leaving just because another school is

2060
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 1: going to pay him two and a. Grand MORE but

2061
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,560
Speaker 1: i didn't think That When josh simmraw's dad uprooted his

2062
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: entire family and moved three. States over because that's What.

2063
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 1: In america you applaud when people put themselves in a

2064
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 1: better position to improve. Their lifestyle jeff joins us two,

2065
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 1: or nine, Ten, seventy jeff what's?

2066
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 7: Going, ON well i hope while you're applauding that you

2067
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 7: can applaud the this is this is kind of what

2068
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 7: free agency did TO. The NBA the nba, RATINGS down nba,

2069
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 7: ATTENDANCE down nba, worth down.

2070
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 4: And it's all because of.

2071
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 7: Free agency free agency, killed baseball and free agency KILLED,

2072
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 7: the nba.

2073
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 4: And it will kill.

2074
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 7: College basketball they've tried to turn college sports into semi

2075
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 7: pro sports and it will.

2076
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Not, last jeff youre. NUMBER one i don't disagree, With,

2077
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: YOU okay i.

2078
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 9: Hear.

2079
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: YOU yep i don't think they're trying to. DO that

2080
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 1: i think that the toothpastees out of the tube and

2081
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: they can't. Control it that's, number. ONE right i don't

2082
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 1: THINK anybody's i don't THINK the ncaa, is, saying hey

2083
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: let's become semi. Pro ball happened the free market enterprise

2084
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: Of The united states and capitalism, in general with all

2085
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 1: of us having the individual right to improve our positioning

2086
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: is what?

2087
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 2: Did?

2088
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 1: That right? Number two so? What happened?

2089
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 7: What happened what happened When j billis stood up and

2090
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 7: said we need more scoring in, college basketball and they

2091
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 7: tried to change all the rules to make it more LIKE.

2092
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 4: The nba now we're gonna.

2093
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 7: Let, guys travel we're gonna let guys set, Illegal screens

2094
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 7: we're going to not call a.

2095
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: Basketball game that's that's how. You said that's all. You

2096
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 1: said you said it was because of the. Free agency

2097
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 1: i'm saying it's, both okay And what, I'm, Saying jeff

2098
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 1: i'm not fundamentally disagreeing, with you but here's, the thing.

2099
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 1: The rate the television ratings this year FOR The ncaa

2100
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 1: tournament were up nine percent from a year ago and

2101
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 1: are among the highest that have ever.

2102
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 7: Been, presented absolutely let's let's talk to me in five

2103
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 7: years and let's see where.

2104
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 1: It's at so. THAT'S fair i hear, you there because

2105
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 1: we are just at the outset. OF it i, get

2106
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: that and that is certainly the. One, Thing, now jeff

2107
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 1: let me ask. You this you're a fan of? What? Program?

2108
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 8: Uh?

2109
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 4: NONE really I mean I like purdue a.

2110
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 1: LITTLE bit i like you see a.

2111
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 7: LITTLE bit I refereed division one college basketball for, twenty

2112
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 7: YEARS and i look at it from the. Referee side,

2113
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 7: Number one this Isn't. BAD john i don't know if

2114
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 7: you Know Who john, adams is, of Course But john

2115
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 7: adams would be rolling around in his grave with how

2116
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 7: bad these games. Are offficiate it's LIKE a. Wwe event

2117
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 7: it's not. BASKETBALL anymore i.

2118
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 8: Get it.

2119
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 7: I'm sixty i'm that old guy that wants things to

2120
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 7: be the way they used. TO be i also understand,

2121
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 7: there's evolution but they RUINED the nba has got the.

2122
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 7: Best athletes they ruin those that game because it's, not,

2123
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 7: officiated like let me ask a.

2124
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 1: Game and then they want to know why their ratings.

2125
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: Are down let me ask. You this it'll happen TO the.

2126
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 2: Ncaaa.

2127
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 4: Too ja i'm telling you, Right.

2128
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 1: Now i'm not disagreeing, With, you jeff but let me ask.

2129
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: You this And what i'm saying to you is the

2130
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: reason why. People play if you want to say it's

2131
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 1: because you don't like the enforcement of rules or you

2132
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 1: feel like the game has gotten away from what, it

2133
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: was Especially in indiana that we value and. HOLD close i, hear.

2134
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 1: THAT right i don't think you're. Wrong there BUT THE

2135
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: nba i went last night to an arena to a

2136
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: team that had more people in thousands last night than

2137
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 1: they do wins. This year there, Were literally i'll bet

2138
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: you there were seventeen thousand people last Night At Gambridge

2139
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 1: field house To Watch micah Potter And ethan thompson try

2140
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: to shut Down the timberwolves that did Not Have anthony

2141
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 1: edwards on. The floor now for?

2142
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 7: What reason how many tickets were sold before before the

2143
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 7: season of last year was over that they had to

2144
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 7: turn in their. SEASON tickets i don't know the answer to. That,

2145
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 7: question well and then what are the tickets going for

2146
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 7: the cheap tickets going for. THESE days, I mean i

2147
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 7: get what, you're saying but there's if you look back

2148
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 7: at like in the Nineties when duke had those guys

2149
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 7: that were there for, four years or some of these

2150
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 7: teams that the majority of our players stayed there for,

2151
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 7: four years everybody had a little bit of an allegiance to.

2152
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 7: The team and also. College basketball so la last year

2153
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 7: you had all four number ones go To the. Final

2154
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 7: four this year you had two number ones and a

2155
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 7: two and. A three, i mean people love to see. The,

2156
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 7: Underdog yeah but here's. The Thing, but jeff if you,

2157
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 7: GO back i don't. Just listen i'm. NOT disagreeing, I

2158
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 7: mean i'm not disagreeing with your. Point, Here okay i'm

2159
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 7: simply pointing Out and i'm as bewildered as you. By

2160
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 7: this but if you look At the cinderellas that, everybody loves,

2161
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 7: myself included and of course and you, heard me you

2162
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 7: probably if you listen to the, show enough you've heard

2163
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 7: me Say that march madness is made on, those. STORIES right,

2164
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 7: i mean it's those one shining moments that we. Long

2165
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 7: For The bryce, drew shot all those, Things right but

2166
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 7: there is no denying the fact that When A saint

2167
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 7: peter's Or a davidson goes deep into, the tournament the

2168
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 7: numbers and the interest levels lag because people tune in

2169
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 7: To see david, You know Goliath, Versus. GOLIATH right, i

2170
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 7: mean that's just the reality. Of it WHETHER that's i

2171
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 7: can't explain why, that is but that is the reality

2172
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 7: of the of where we and what we.

2173
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: Are now i'm not disagreeing with you that the trajectory

2174
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: that college basketball is headed may in fact be a

2175
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 1: huge threat to the popularity of. The Game what i'm

2176
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 1: saying is my only point is the basis by which

2177
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 1: people claim to lose that interest is one that if

2178
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 1: you apply it to other areas, of society they are

2179
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 1: things that.

2180
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 7: We, applaud yeah but people aren't going to your dad's

2181
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 7: or your next. Door neighbors dads were To. Watching MOORK

2182
01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 7: so i get where you're. COMING from. I do it's

2183
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 7: just a different thing when people are, being ENTERTAINED and

2184
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 7: I think i think they're making a. Big mistake i've

2185
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 7: said this ABOUT the nba. FOR years i told a buddy,

2186
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 7: of mine NBA's audience is going to, go south, and.

2187
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 4: Sure enough it's.

2188
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 7: Gone south people just don't number one the target all

2189
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 7: it's are probably fifty plus year old guys that grew up.

2190
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,600
Speaker 7: WITH basketball i don't know if the younger generation is.

2191
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 1: THAT much i don't think that's. Accurate basketball, He, DOESN'T

2192
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 1: jeff i don't think. THAT'S accurate i appreciate. THE call

2193
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 1: i don't think the target audience, OF yes i mean

2194
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 1: expendable income. IT is i. Get that but the target

2195
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 1: audience for anything is starting at the age of twenty

2196
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:24,879
Speaker 1: five right because. You can you can start a business

2197
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 1: right now if. You'd like that does nothing but attract

2198
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 1: sixty year, old men and, guess what you're gonna have

2199
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 1: to recycle that.

2200
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 3: Pretty quickly jenna alf for my two cents on the

2201
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 3: on the thing that you say that, makes, us uh what?

2202
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 4: Was?

2203
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 3: It, hypocritical, Hypocritical hypocritical sorry that your next Door neighbor

2204
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 3: jake is working for, that job to get, that promotion

2205
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 3: to get. The money some of these players in, college

2206
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 3: athletics they're not working to get. The promotion they're chasing.

2207
02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 3: The money they're going around school to school chasing. That

2208
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:05,480
Speaker 3: money most people in the real world are not going

2209
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:08,200
Speaker 3: job to job to job to job to, chase money

2210
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 3: because after the third place that you've been in the last,

2211
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 3: three years an employer is, gonna, say okay So why

2212
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 3: i'm gonna contact, this one this one and. This one

2213
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 3: why do you keep leaving one employer?

2214
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 1: One reason what's the number one reason people? Job, transfer

2215
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 1: well it's for, More. Money jacob but you're working. Towards

2216
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:31,640
Speaker 1: that most people are working towards the promotion to get

2217
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 1: to the next job to make. The money you did

2218
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 1: all the work that you Did at, channel six to

2219
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: put in the all all the extensive hours to build

2220
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 1: yourself up for that. Next job right these players in

2221
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 1: college basketball aren't. Doing that they're Going from indiana to

2222
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 1: wherever else that's going to offer them a bigger bag

2223
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 1: so they can just get. More money they're not working.

2224
02:01:55,800 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 1: For anything they're just. Chasing it but if somebody they're

2225
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 1: not chasing it because they don't. HAVE to, i mean

2226
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 1: there are those. That are But what i'm saying, is

2227
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 1: no your value is what is determined by your. Market

2228
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 1: value there are two values. In life one is the

2229
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: way you, value yourself and everybody should value themselves to a.

2230
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: High level the other value is the, market value which

2231
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:22,640
Speaker 1: is what the market dictates. Your worth and, so if

2232
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,840
Speaker 1: just through natural progression, of inflation for lack of a,

2233
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:32,920
Speaker 1: better phrase the market value of, yourself increases then it

2234
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: is behoove you if you so choose to take advantage

2235
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 1: of that increase to get what is there for you while,

2236
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 1: it's there because you also have keep, in Mind in,

2237
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 1: jeff's case people aren't going to the guy's workplace to watch. Him,

2238
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 1: work true but he, also has, you know a thirty

2239
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: year period to take whatever raise has come his way over.

2240
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: Thirty years, in athletics a lot of, these players they

2241
02:02:57,400 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 1: have a four year window to cash it in to get.

2242
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:03,360
Speaker 1: The money i'm. Not LISTENING like, I said i. Totally

2243
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 1: understand i'm not disagreeing with the threat that is there

2244
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: by any means or stretch of. The Imagination but i'm

2245
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 1: saying the reasoning that people give as to why it

2246
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 1: perturbs them are oftentimes rooted in the combination of envy

2247
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 1: or the lack of understanding of why someone doesn't have

2248
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 1: the same appreciation of opportunity that they would have claimed

2249
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 1: to have had if given the same at. That age. That's.

2250
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 1: All now the other thing that people are gaga OVER

2251
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 1: and i get it Is. The masters masters. Is huge

2252
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna whisper for the. Next Segment will haskett's going to.

2253
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Join us we're not really going, to whisper but we

2254
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 1: are going to. Talk golf we're gonna do.

2255
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:49,839
Speaker 2: IT next.

2256
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that was too loud that re. ENTRY

2257
02:03:55,720 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 1: there I know Will hask we'll have all of your

2258
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 1: coverage when it comes To, the MASTERS and I owe will, a,

2259
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:08,840
Speaker 1: huge huge huge gift basket now he joins us on,

2260
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 1: the program other than loaning us your time and expertise

2261
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: when it comes. To, golf well would you like to

2262
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,880
Speaker 1: guess and if you know, the answer reveal to the

2263
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 1: audience why it IS that i owe you a huge.

2264
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 1: Thank you maybe they have not informed you yet of this.

2265
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 1: LITTLE tidbit I think i'm aware.

2266
02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 9: OF it i was hoping we just come on and

2267
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,560
Speaker 9: we can Break down jeff's, phone CALL because I feel

2268
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 9: i Feel where jeff was. Coming from but sometimes reality

2269
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 9: doesn't line up with. Our hearts Can maybe i'll be

2270
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 9: able to, Address, that jake for the reason that, you're

2271
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 9: suggesting WHICH is i guess that you've been awarded four

2272
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 9: day work weeks at, the Company and i'm going to

2273
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 9: be in that chair a Week.

2274
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 4: FROM monday, I, think.

2275
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 1: Jeff you have no idea how livid It makes jeff to,

2276
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 1: know that, IN fact i have negotiated this into MY.

2277
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: New nil right before we get, to that can you

2278
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 1: elabor rate on your if, you could kind of your

2279
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,400
Speaker 1: Dissection of jeff's. Phone, CALL yeah i.

2280
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 9: Get It like I'm a butler grad and the magic

2281
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:14,000
Speaker 9: Of what butler has done to grow its basketball brand

2282
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 9: was being the little. Scrappy underdog and, you know my

2283
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 9: senior year was The first sweet sixteen trip in two thousand,

2284
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 9: and three and then obviously there were the trips that.

2285
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 9: Went THERE and i think that the beauty of, college

2286
02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 9: sports that the beauty OF the ncaa, tournament is you

2287
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 9: know those stories, four year five year athletes that stay

2288
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 9: out of school and the little underdogs that.

2289
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 4: Make the first and second day of. The tournament you

2290
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 4: know what.

2291
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 9: It is but the reality, is that, you know the

2292
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 9: average general sporting public wants to see the best against,

2293
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 9: the best AND.

2294
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 4: The tv ratings.

2295
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:51,920
Speaker 9: Don't lie and even though old sensibilities for me would

2296
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 9: love To See george mason the final Four or butler

2297
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 9: in the, final four when for one. Final four it's

2298
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 9: better business for all those treating it as.

2299
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 4: A business and that's just the reality of.

2300
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,720
Speaker 9: It all and that's why until we get some sort

2301
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:08,760
Speaker 9: of guardrails on the current state of really pay for

2302
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 9: play in, college athletics we're not GOING to, i think

2303
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 9: have a solution in the short term that keeps teams

2304
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 9: from just being able to go out and assemble the

2305
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 9: best talent year in and, year out to try and

2306
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 9: be one of those one.

2307
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 1: Things, you know will somebody made a point TO me

2308
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 1: i should have, said this because this is the best

2309
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 1: way of. Saying it if you are a student and

2310
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 1: you're given a sixty percent scholarship to go to, a

2311
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 1: university more often, than not if nobody else gives you,

2312
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 1: a scholarship that's where you're going. To school and then

2313
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 1: if midway through your freshman year you have an unbelievable

2314
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 1: four point zero, you know, semester whatever some other school

2315
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 1: hears about it and then come and they say we're

2316
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: going to give you an eighty. PERCENT, scholarship yea guess

2317
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 1: what you're by transferring right and. Then etc it's. Very similar, but,

2318
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: anyway yes one week from now you ARE in i Believe.

2319
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 1: On Monday so i'm going To The IndyCar Long, beach

2320
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 1: RACE and i come back on a red eye that

2321
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,360
Speaker 1: gets In. On monday and just, In particular i'll be honest, With,

2322
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 1: you will just the way air travel is, RIGHT now

2323
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,440
Speaker 1: i always get leary, of THAT and, i thought you,

2324
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 1: know WHAT should i just take the day just to.

2325
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 1: Be SAFE so i do appreciate you filling in for me.

2326
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 1: On that and that's the weekend At The Long. BEACH

2327
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:18,040
Speaker 1: race i don't know if you've heard this, Or, not

2328
02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:20,880
Speaker 1: WILL but i get to go To The Brady bunch

2329
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 1: House With christopher knight That Played, peter BRADY and i

2330
02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:24,680
Speaker 1: haven't SLEPT since i learned.

2331
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 4: That news that's a That's an. AMERICAN flight i do

2332
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 4: believe That. RED eye i was.

2333
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 9: On it you're LEAVING the i was on and After

2334
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:35,280
Speaker 9: The jennis Imitational at riviera earlier this YEAR on pg to.

2335
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:36,680
Speaker 4: A RADIO so i know that red.

2336
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 9: Eye, flight well, and yes brain function is about sixty

2337
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:42,880
Speaker 9: percent when you, get back which you know maybe for

2338
02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 9: me match you're sixty percent brain OUTPUT when i fill

2339
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 9: in for three hours coming up a Week.

2340
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:50,120
Speaker 1: From, MONDAY well i. Appreciate it, All right let's get To,

2341
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 1: the masters and this is going to obviously be a

2342
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 1: peripheral observation as opposed to an, esoteric ONE but i

2343
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 1: think at least as, of now and it will change

2344
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 1: once we really get, Into it but for, right now

2345
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 1: it seems like the story At the masters is as

2346
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 1: much who's not there versus, who is which. Is, Unfortunate, CORRECT.

2347
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 9: Yeah I mean i think the Story really masters this

2348
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 9: year is that there isn't necessarily, a story if that.

2349
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:23,320
Speaker 9: Makes sense, you know It was reckler was playing great.

2350
02:08:23,400 --> 02:08:26,000
Speaker 9: Last year could he Win The grand slam or Complete The?

2351
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 9: Grand slam? He Did scotty scheffler best Player since tiger

2352
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 9: the last couple of years two.

2353
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 4: Years ago could he win? It again?

2354
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 9: He did year, Before That john. Rahm wins but that

2355
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 9: was kind of when the whole split was happening and

2356
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 9: there were live golfers there for The first there was

2357
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 9: always some sort of overarching story or individual PRESENCE that

2358
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 9: i think has really dominated all of the headlines leading into.

2359
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:50,120
Speaker 4: This week and the.

2360
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 9: Reality is that We're celebrating rory a year, from it

2361
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 9: but he's not the same player in terms of his

2362
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,120
Speaker 9: form as he was a. Year Ago scottie scheffler's now

2363
02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 9: a father for the second time and hasn't play his

2364
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 9: best golf over the last couple, of months so he's

2365
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 9: not necessarily, YOU know i Thought the scheffler Versus the

2366
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:08,320
Speaker 9: field discussion like we've had the last couple of, Years

2367
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:11,720
Speaker 9: either so it really opens it up to whichever way

2368
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 9: you want, to look whichever direction you want.

2369
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:15,840
Speaker 4: To take that's the story that you're going to sort

2370
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 4: of invent.

2371
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:19,280
Speaker 9: For yourself and, you know these weeks are always. Major

2372
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 9: weeks just feel like there's one, extra day there's one

2373
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,120
Speaker 9: too many days of hyperbole. And hype and thankfully that

2374
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:26,640
Speaker 9: there's a part of three contest going on right now

2375
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 9: so you, can watch, you know cute kids hitting golf

2376
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 9: shots and guys laughing and really just kind of exhaling

2377
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 9: before the tournament. Begins TOMORROW but i always Feel like

2378
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 9: Wednesdays of, Major week, i'm like can we just please

2379
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:36,680
Speaker 9: give it the first tea Time?

2380
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 4: On thursday we need some real golf to.

2381
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 1: Talk, about, well obviously we know in a great part of,

2382
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 1: you know in a wide number of things that Makes

2383
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 1: the masters what it is is the course Itself And,

2384
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:50,440
Speaker 1: augusta national and that course does, Not move it doesn't

2385
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 1: change it's in the same spot. Every year for the,

2386
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:56,320
Speaker 1: most part the weather is virtually the same same time

2387
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:59,400
Speaker 1: of year. Every YEAR but i know, in RACING and

2388
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: i have pol for making this bad. Comparison good but,

2389
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,280
Speaker 1: in racing sometimes we go to a track that is

2390
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: the same track that we were at the, year before

2391
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 1: same time, of year but things have changed over the

2392
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 1: course of, the year and the track has a different

2393
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:14,680
Speaker 1: grip or a, different feel and the drivers just noticed.

2394
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 1: Something Different Does augusta is it literally the same course

2395
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:21,640
Speaker 1: every year or are there times where different elements can

2396
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 1: perhaps change just a little bit the way the ball

2397
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:26,520
Speaker 1: is running and advantage to one player.

2398
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 9: Over, ANOTHER yeah i wouldn't necessarily how much it, shifts

2399
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 9: advantage but there are always. Subtle, changes now we haven't

2400
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,400
Speaker 9: had any wholesale changes like we've had in, previous years

2401
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 9: like brand new, tea boxes so.

2402
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 4: People know the thirteenth hole is a is a.

2403
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 9: Par five it wraps around raised creek on the second

2404
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:46,200
Speaker 9: nine There.

2405
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:48,480
Speaker 4: At augusta it's one of the most famous holes.

2406
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 9: In golf and they added a new tea box there

2407
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 9: a few, years ago and that's been much. Talked about,

2408
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:55,120
Speaker 9: in fact the chairman Of the Masters fred ridley answered

2409
02:10:55,120 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 9: a question about it earlier today about the data they

2410
02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 9: get from that and how it relates to their opinion

2411
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:01,200
Speaker 9: on whether the golf balls should go farther, or shorter

2412
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 9: which is a very esoteric conversation for golf nerds.

2413
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,680
Speaker 4: Out there BUT so i wouldn't say this year there's those.

2414
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 4: Many CHANGES but i.

2415
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:10,800
Speaker 9: Will say if you really kind of geek out, Every

2416
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:13,800
Speaker 9: year augusta isn't going to tell you where some of

2417
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:14,600
Speaker 9: the changes.

2418
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:16,880
Speaker 4: May be made, on greens like did they bring in completely.

2419
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 9: New turf or redo a, Particular green and a lot

2420
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:21,800
Speaker 9: of guys out earlier this, week said you, know what it,

2421
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,440
Speaker 9: feels like these three or four holes may have gotten

2422
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 9: redone in the. Last year not change necessarily in terms,

2423
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:30,040
Speaker 9: of slope it's very similar to how it. Was before

2424
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 9: but when you put in, new grass it typically acts

2425
02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:36,360
Speaker 9: firmer for the first year until it really settles in

2426
02:11:36,360 --> 02:11:38,600
Speaker 9: and it. Grows roots so players pay attention. To that

2427
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,920
Speaker 9: those are the. Subtle changes but because everybody knows it,

2428
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 9: so well it goes from player to caddy to broadcaster,

2429
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:49,080
Speaker 9: to fan, you know it's you have to do some

2430
02:11:49,160 --> 02:11:51,640
Speaker 9: real significant change. TO it i think to have an

2431
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 9: impact on how you view it and how you. Play

2432
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 9: it but there's always little things that the players are,

2433
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:57,360
Speaker 9: looking for, you know stand level.

2434
02:11:57,400 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 4: And bunkers, you know it's typical mode about.

2435
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:02,680
Speaker 9: The same it's one of the, most pristine if not

2436
02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:06,000
Speaker 9: the most pristinely maintained golf course in the. Entire world

2437
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:08,360
Speaker 9: so this year we aren't dealing as much with anything

2438
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:11,200
Speaker 9: that was an overhaul as much as we are guys

2439
02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 9: maybe looking for a little bit of information that may

2440
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 9: benefit them on a shot or.

2441
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:17,080
Speaker 4: A moment over seventy two.

2442
02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 1: Holes will when you look at the way everyone is playing,

2443
02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:24,880
Speaker 1: right now is there someone that jumps out at you as,

2444
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 1: You're saying, you know they may not be somebody that

2445
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:30,080
Speaker 1: is a top the leader board on, the regular but

2446
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 1: it seems like right now things are starting to fall

2447
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:34,600
Speaker 1: into place for them where they could be somebody.

2448
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,640
Speaker 4: To, WATCH yeah, I mean.

2449
02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 9: I think when you come in, to majors especially the

2450
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:41,040
Speaker 9: way golf is, right now this has become a, really

2451
02:12:41,080 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 9: superstar top heavy sport and.

2452
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 4: You're talking about a half.

2453
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 9: Dozen guys maybe one or two of those guys roll

2454
02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 9: in each and, every year but for the last five,

2455
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 9: or years especially, in Majors, It's Rory, it's Scottie it's

2456
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 9: John Rob it's Bryson, De shambeau and the latter two

2457
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 9: of those guys are obviously playing on live and they're

2458
02:12:57,240 --> 02:12:58,640
Speaker 9: playing better than the other two.

2459
02:12:58,640 --> 02:12:59,320
Speaker 4: At this point.

2460
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:02,440
Speaker 9: In time Won Twice john rams in a playoff against

2461
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:04,640
Speaker 9: bryceon and one of those he's also won. This year

2462
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 9: they're both playing very well entering, this week albeit they

2463
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:10,560
Speaker 9: played twelve time, zones away and so it doesn't register

2464
02:13:10,640 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 9: as Much within american golf and. Sports audience so when

2465
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:17,400
Speaker 9: you have a couple of, superstar guys, you know major

2466
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 9: champions that you know are capable of winning these types,

2467
02:13:20,280 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 9: of events then you certainly your ears peak a. Little

2468
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:24,160
Speaker 9: bit the OTHER guy i throw into that is a

2469
02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 9: two time major Champion In, xander schoffeli who won those

2470
02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:29,000
Speaker 9: two majors back to back two years ago and then

2471
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:31,240
Speaker 9: a rib injury really just slowed him down last year

2472
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 9: and he was never able to get. Into it while

2473
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:36,800
Speaker 9: he has not punched it through this year this, calendar

2474
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 9: year he did win last fall Over in japan and

2475
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:41,760
Speaker 9: has had a couple of top five finishes in.

2476
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:43,839
Speaker 4: His last couple. Of starts so OF The pga.

2477
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:46,240
Speaker 9: TOUR guys I think xander's in the best position because

2478
02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:48,720
Speaker 9: he's always been a guy that finds himself in position

2479
02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:51,480
Speaker 9: Late on sunday in. A major so those are the

2480
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 9: Three guys i've been sort of saying that are big.

2481
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:54,680
Speaker 4: Name guys there's certainly a number of.

2482
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 9: Guys that would considered a little bit more long shots

2483
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:59,160
Speaker 9: who have played very well. Of Late cameron young's the

2484
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 9: number three ranks in, the world which, right now if

2485
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:03,760
Speaker 9: you walked into a trivia night at, a bar no

2486
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:05,280
Speaker 9: one would be able to guess who the third ranked

2487
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,200
Speaker 9: player in the, world is And It's. Cameron young he

2488
02:14:07,240 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 9: Won The. Players championship certainly guy. That's, Capable actually batilla

2489
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:14,240
Speaker 9: is a HOT name i think, this week a. Younger

2490
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:16,560
Speaker 9: guy he's actually, a drive chip and. Putt alumnus that

2491
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:18,400
Speaker 9: would be kind of a Cool story tougusta if he

2492
02:14:18,440 --> 02:14:20,360
Speaker 9: were able to go on. And win and he Wonted

2493
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:23,440
Speaker 9: Bay Hill arnold palmer's tournament earlier this year ON The.

2494
02:14:23,480 --> 02:14:25,480
Speaker 4: Pga tour so there's plenty of guys that are.

2495
02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 9: Playing well but this is always one of those weeks

2496
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:29,880
Speaker 9: where who of the, top guys who of the, big

2497
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:32,400
Speaker 9: dogs who the major champions are playing their best. Right

2498
02:14:32,440 --> 02:14:34,280
Speaker 9: now and that's why it kind of goes back to.

2499
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,000
Speaker 4: That three Of The Shamba, John.

2500
02:14:36,080 --> 02:14:39,800
Speaker 1: Robbins, vanderschofflin now, My man santiago de foint he's not in, this,

2501
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:40,840
Speaker 1: year right he.

2502
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:44,600
Speaker 9: Is not he was the he qualified Through The Latin

2503
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:48,080
Speaker 9: America amateur championship two years ago and he is not back.

2504
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:48,440
Speaker 2: This year.

2505
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he was doing well through like three holes

2506
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:53,680
Speaker 1: AND then i think he was seventeen over and got

2507
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:56,200
Speaker 1: a little off. Off, kill yeah it was a.

2508
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:56,480
Speaker 4: Trunk.

2509
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 3: SLAMMER yeah i kind of like jaking this show sometimes.

2510
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:02,960
Speaker 1: Every Day, mattel pulcini that's. My guy what do?

2511
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:03,080
Speaker 2: You?

2512
02:15:03,120 --> 02:15:07,840
Speaker 9: Think, sure yeah if you want me to expand on, His,

2513
02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:10,200
Speaker 9: Game jake i'm afraid we're gonna have to phone a friend.

2514
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 1: On, that okay you. Can listen you got like a

2515
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:14,680
Speaker 1: week and a half to figure, it out and then

2516
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:17,800
Speaker 1: you can do three hours on it. Coming up imagine the.

2517
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 9: Ratings there it'd be like having a sixteen versus the

2518
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:20,480
Speaker 9: fifteen in the.

2519
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:21,600
Speaker 4: Final game if You.

2520
02:15:21,640 --> 02:15:24,880
Speaker 1: Think jeff was upset about, RATINGS before, i mean, come, on,

2521
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 1: right okay here are my, two picks AND then i

2522
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:29,240
Speaker 1: want you to tell me HOW crazy. I am i

2523
02:15:29,320 --> 02:15:31,000
Speaker 1: simply look. AT this i do this. EVERY year i

2524
02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 1: look at it AND then i just. Go boom that

2525
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:36,400
Speaker 1: one jumps out. At, me okay here The, official eddie

2526
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:38,040
Speaker 1: and do you happen to have the drum roll by

2527
02:15:38,120 --> 02:15:41,240
Speaker 1: chance or the breaking? News sounder? Either one either one. Is,

2528
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:45,440
Speaker 1: sufficient okay, Thank. You eddie here we go and you

2529
02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 1: tell me HOW crazy. I Am tommy fleetwood would be one.

2530
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:51,600
Speaker 1: Of them i'm Going With tommy fleetwood as. A pick

2531
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:54,200
Speaker 1: AND then, i had, first off your Thoughts On. Tommy

2532
02:15:54,200 --> 02:15:56,080
Speaker 1: fleetwood my chance? Is there?

2533
02:15:56,680 --> 02:15:58,680
Speaker 9: Not crazy finally got in the winner circle ON The

2534
02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 9: pga Tour in. America fall he's the fourth ranks player in,

2535
02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:04,200
Speaker 9: the world has the iron game that should.

2536
02:16:04,200 --> 02:16:07,440
Speaker 4: Contend here so that is a very very. Strong.

2537
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:10,160
Speaker 1: Pick Okay, Matt, fitzpatrick.

2538
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah playing really well One in tampa a few.

2539
02:16:12,120 --> 02:16:15,360
Speaker 9: Weeks ago i'm worried a little bit about, his putter

2540
02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:18,320
Speaker 9: but certainly has. Taken stride he's a major champion, as

2541
02:16:18,320 --> 02:16:20,120
Speaker 9: well and might be playing the best golf of his

2542
02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:22,760
Speaker 9: career over the last season and a half. OR so

2543
02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:25,200
Speaker 9: i think he's built himself into being a more consistent.

2544
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:27,680
Speaker 9: Major performer so of those those, two guys those.

2545
02:16:27,560 --> 02:16:27,840
Speaker 4: They are two.

2546
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:29,960
Speaker 9: GOOD picks i would put THEM if i was making

2547
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:32,160
Speaker 9: a list of a dozen guys outside The ones i've,

2548
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:33,560
Speaker 9: already mentioned they would be on that list.

2549
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:36,560
Speaker 1: As, well okay then here's my one, Dark Course, ryan

2550
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:38,959
Speaker 1: fox ONLY because i grew up with a Kid Named.

2551
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:41,080
Speaker 1: Ryan fox his mom and my mom are. Best friends

2552
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:42,080
Speaker 1: not the. Same guy.

2553
02:16:43,480 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 9: Cool Story new zealander won twice last year in a

2554
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:47,520
Speaker 9: quick time frame ON The.

2555
02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:51,920
Speaker 4: Pga tour certainly has, the power but he's.

2556
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:54,760
Speaker 9: An almost exclusive right handed cutter of the, golf Ball

2557
02:16:54,760 --> 02:16:56,760
Speaker 9: and i'm not sure how much that would be a

2558
02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:01,000
Speaker 9: benefit to him on this. Golf course but it's really

2559
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:04,440
Speaker 9: hard to see a long shot winning. This tournament we

2560
02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:07,480
Speaker 9: haven't really had one of those in a long time At,

2561
02:17:07,480 --> 02:17:10,840
Speaker 9: The masters so probably a little bit too far out

2562
02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:13,000
Speaker 9: with so many good players in front, of him but

2563
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:13,920
Speaker 9: it'd be a fun story.

2564
02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:15,840
Speaker 1: For sure what's your favorite thing About?

2565
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:18,879
Speaker 9: The masters by, The Way ryan fox's dad may be

2566
02:17:18,879 --> 02:17:21,880
Speaker 9: the greatest rugby Player In new, zealand history and that

2567
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:24,280
Speaker 9: you know they're known for their, rugby player really good.

2568
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:26,080
Speaker 4: Rugby player i'm really a little.

2569
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 1: BIT too i got Really into australian. Rules football by,

2570
02:17:28,640 --> 02:17:30,400
Speaker 1: The way i'm a huge fan Of The, north Kangaroo

2571
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:33,360
Speaker 1: The North, melbourne kangaroos just so. You know but that's different. Than,

2572
02:17:33,400 --> 02:17:34,560
Speaker 1: rugby yeah he.

2573
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:36,720
Speaker 4: Was, au yeah he's a superstar. Down There, SO jake

2574
02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:40,000
Speaker 4: i want what was. The question, i'm sorry, go ahead.

2575
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:40,600
Speaker 1: GO ahead i was, TO.

2576
02:17:40,560 --> 02:17:42,120
Speaker 3: Say i have two PICKS and i want your. Insight,

2577
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:43,760
Speaker 3: Here Uh ludwig Aberg And.

2578
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:47,400
Speaker 9: Zander, shoffley yeah just TALK about, I mean I think

2579
02:17:47,480 --> 02:17:49,880
Speaker 9: xanders on my very very short list of the guys that.

2580
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:53,240
Speaker 9: Will win oberg has, Played well he's. PLAYED great i

2581
02:17:53,360 --> 02:17:57,119
Speaker 9: was WITH all. I was i Was with ludwig all

2582
02:17:57,120 --> 02:17:59,640
Speaker 9: four days That The players championship and he had a

2583
02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:02,440
Speaker 9: multi shot lead and just kind of collapsed on the.

2584
02:18:02,440 --> 02:18:05,240
Speaker 4: Back line that's all you. Can say and now he's

2585
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:09,360
Speaker 4: sort of gathering steam in that can he finish the?

2586
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:12,080
Speaker 9: Big one which is unfair to a guy who is

2587
02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:14,440
Speaker 9: young as. A professional he's old as. A human he

2588
02:18:14,440 --> 02:18:16,320
Speaker 9: played four years of. College golf he's in his mid

2589
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 9: twenties now and he has already won a couple, of times been.

2590
02:18:18,400 --> 02:18:21,400
Speaker 4: On A ryder. Cup TEAM but i think it's an.

2591
02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:24,000
Speaker 9: Unfair question mark it's really hard to get across the

2592
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:25,640
Speaker 9: finish line for guys to.

2593
02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:26,720
Speaker 4: Have leads now.

2594
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 9: In, professional golf we're seeing more and more how difficult

2595
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:31,160
Speaker 9: it is to hold on. To LEADS so i would

2596
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:33,200
Speaker 9: expect him. To contend he contended as a rookie just

2597
02:18:33,240 --> 02:18:36,000
Speaker 9: a couple of, Years Ago So i'm i'm pulling for

2598
02:18:36,160 --> 02:18:39,360
Speaker 9: him if he gets in that, position AGAIN because i

2599
02:18:39,440 --> 02:18:41,720
Speaker 9: don't like seeing guys because of one or two bad

2600
02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:44,920
Speaker 9: finishes being labeled as that, as such BECAUSE it's i

2601
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:48,680
Speaker 9: think IT'S just i think it's, lazy journalism, you know

2602
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,360
Speaker 9: to throw out the, choke word or to throw out

2603
02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:54,160
Speaker 9: that he, can't finish like everybody. Can't finish, you know

2604
02:18:54,480 --> 02:18:56,560
Speaker 9: that's the. Biggest problem Everybody's.

2605
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 4: Not tiger it takes a little while to figure out how.

2606
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:00,720
Speaker 4: To win and once they figuregure out how, to win

2607
02:19:00,879 --> 02:19:01,120
Speaker 4: then it.

2608
02:19:01,160 --> 02:19:03,480
Speaker 1: Becomes easier by, The WAY will i asked your favorite

2609
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:04,879
Speaker 1: thing About. THE masters i want to get to. That

2610
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 1: conclusion but while we have, YOU here i will let

2611
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:09,280
Speaker 1: you know that your, Alma, mater butler just announced a

2612
02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:14,080
Speaker 1: new women's, Basketball Coach, maria marcazano correct A former bulldog

2613
02:19:14,120 --> 02:19:17,240
Speaker 1: herself that most recently coached pretty. Fort, wayne, correct.

2614
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:21,039
Speaker 9: Correct AND as i just finished my Twenty Sixth Horizon

2615
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:24,760
Speaker 9: league basketball Championship that i've covered or called and have

2616
02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:27,960
Speaker 9: called many Of coach marcasano's games through the last. Four

2617
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:30,320
Speaker 9: YEARS so I think i put her on social media

2618
02:19:30,320 --> 02:19:32,480
Speaker 9: the day when they Announced That austin parkinson was not,

2619
02:19:32,560 --> 02:19:35,200
Speaker 9: coming BACK which i found to be a little bit

2620
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,840
Speaker 9: of a. QUESTIONABLE decision i know the results, weren't THERE

2621
02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:40,240
Speaker 9: but i thought that he had at least shown the

2622
02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:41,840
Speaker 9: coaching prowess to earn.

2623
02:19:41,879 --> 02:19:44,039
Speaker 4: Another season but if they were going to make a.

2624
02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:45,720
Speaker 9: Change and they were going to go in, any direction,

2625
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:49,440
Speaker 9: to me it was a no brainer and that she

2626
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:50,600
Speaker 9: had to be the higher and she is.

2627
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:52,320
Speaker 4: The higher so good on her and Good.

2628
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:54,920
Speaker 1: On, butler, okay last so your favorite thing or what

2629
02:19:54,959 --> 02:19:57,320
Speaker 1: it is About the masters that? YOU loved.

2630
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:04,560
Speaker 9: I think i think repetitiveness and, you know tradition is

2631
02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:07,440
Speaker 9: too big of a, word here, BUT familiarity i think

2632
02:20:07,560 --> 02:20:10,280
Speaker 9: is so important sometimes. In sports, you know why do

2633
02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:11,960
Speaker 9: we love THE n d. Five hundred we LOVE the

2634
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:14,600
Speaker 9: d five hundred because we know what the lead up

2635
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:16,280
Speaker 9: is going, to be we know the order of, the

2636
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:20,279
Speaker 9: songs we know, the pageantry we know what that start.

2637
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:22,800
Speaker 9: Feels like, you know why do we like sitting down

2638
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:25,320
Speaker 9: on the Couch on sunday and Watching The masters.

2639
02:20:24,879 --> 02:20:25,360
Speaker 4: Because we know.

2640
02:20:25,440 --> 02:20:27,600
Speaker 9: The holes we know where the trouble is going. To

2641
02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:30,440
Speaker 9: BE so i know familiarity is kind of a not

2642
02:20:30,560 --> 02:20:33,680
Speaker 9: the most specific, of THINGS but i feel we so

2643
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:36,640
Speaker 9: much in sports we're looking for the, new, Thing right

2644
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:39,720
Speaker 9: we're looking for the, flashy thing and when, it works

2645
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:42,280
Speaker 9: like when the brand is strong and it just gets

2646
02:20:42,320 --> 02:20:44,520
Speaker 9: it done all, The, TIME like i think something that

2647
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:46,760
Speaker 9: is that familiar it has.

2648
02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:48,560
Speaker 4: Real power, so that.

2649
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:50,920
Speaker 9: To me is my favorite thing About the masters IS

2650
02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:52,600
Speaker 9: that i can close. My eyes you can say a

2651
02:20:52,600 --> 02:20:55,000
Speaker 9: HOLE and i can, see it whether it's the VISION

2652
02:20:55,040 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 9: that i have from The times i've been there Or

2653
02:20:56,680 --> 02:20:58,640
Speaker 9: when i've seen IT. On TV and i think that's

2654
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 9: something that's kind of rare, in sports to be able

2655
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:02,000
Speaker 9: to be able to close your.

2656
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:04,600
Speaker 1: Eyes and see, that thing your coverage, of it and

2657
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:09,000
Speaker 1: just overall the thoughts that you have in breaking Down

2658
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 1: the masters can be found and. Seene, WHERE yeah i

2659
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:13,080
Speaker 1: got our crews.

2660
02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:14,800
Speaker 4: Down there i'm off. This week i'll be back next

2661
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:15,200
Speaker 4: week FOR The.

2662
02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:19,600
Speaker 9: Rbc heritage so all my friends on serious XM's channel

2663
02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:22,880
Speaker 9: ninety two if you Have a master's radio this week

2664
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:25,120
Speaker 9: they do a. Great job so all my buddies are

2665
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:27,680
Speaker 9: down there covering it and it's a phenomenal tournament that

2666
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:30,560
Speaker 9: you can follow me on. Social media, And, hey eddie

2667
02:21:30,600 --> 02:21:32,200
Speaker 9: let's try and Get Coach marcus ono in.

2668
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:34,360
Speaker 4: Studio a Week. From monday that'd be a, good yeah

2669
02:21:34,400 --> 02:21:35,959
Speaker 4: a good. Good one let's Beget the butler on. That

2670
02:21:35,959 --> 02:21:37,640
Speaker 4: one If anybody butler's listening Over, at.

2671
02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:39,680
Speaker 9: Hinkle let's get her in studio on, the twentieth because

2672
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:40,600
Speaker 9: she'd be worth.

2673
02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:41,160
Speaker 4: Thirty minutes.

2674
02:21:41,879 --> 02:21:44,760
Speaker 1: Love, It see i'm all. For that see will see

2675
02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:45,440
Speaker 1: how it worked out.

2676
02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 9: FOR you i just, like having, you know give me the, Pulpit.

2677
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:50,959
Speaker 9: HERE jake i can throw things out there and now

2678
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:52,000
Speaker 9: people have to act.

2679
02:21:52,040 --> 02:21:53,920
Speaker 4: On, it right it's on, the airwaves it's. Out there

2680
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:54,520
Speaker 4: then we have to.

2681
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:58,360
Speaker 1: Do something jeff's. Online too just know that at, all

2682
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:01,040
Speaker 1: times will she at the time he is always and

2683
02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:02,560
Speaker 1: thanks for. Filling in have fun with it all?

2684
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:03,760
Speaker 2: Right again?

2685
02:22:03,879 --> 02:22:06,119
Speaker 1: All right will hasket joining us on. THE program jmv

2686
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:08,600
Speaker 1: is in. THE area i just saw him. WALKING around

2687
02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:11,440
Speaker 1: i will catch up with him and find out what

2688
02:22:11,440 --> 02:22:13,920
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2689
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2692
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Speaker 1: of the crossover brought to you by the good guys that.

2693
02:22:23,640 --> 02:22:23,720
Speaker 9: Love.

2694
02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:26,680
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2695
02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:30,760
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2696
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2698
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2699
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Speaker 1: we would love to have. You there it will be an.

2700
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:43,440
Speaker 1: Awesome time and one of those that was there last

2701
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:46,280
Speaker 1: year For That John uh and it was the best.

2702
02:22:46,320 --> 02:22:50,360
Speaker 1: News yesterday and that is the health update from. Our

2703
02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:52,720
Speaker 1: FRIEND and i know obviously much More your you are

2704
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:54,200
Speaker 1: much closer to HIM than i have known him a.

2705
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 1: Lot Longer but jlaw with the. Great, health yeah No

2706
02:22:58,000 --> 02:23:01,440
Speaker 1: jan law. Cancer journey he has taken a turn for,

2707
02:23:01,720 --> 02:23:05,560
Speaker 1: the better our brothers of his PROCEDURE and uh just

2708
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:08,400
Speaker 1: thrilled to see. That news Our Brother. Jay Law jay

2709
02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:09,760
Speaker 1: law is great for.

2710
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:12,600
Speaker 10: The station he is a not just a p one

2711
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:15,840
Speaker 10: which is a full time listener and also To the

2712
02:23:15,879 --> 02:23:18,560
Speaker 10: saturday night show with me On be but he's, a

2713
02:23:18,600 --> 02:23:21,480
Speaker 10: friend and he's, a friend and he's been going through

2714
02:23:21,520 --> 02:23:23,480
Speaker 10: a lot, of junk and it is good to.

2715
02:23:23,600 --> 02:23:26,959
Speaker 1: Hear him good get that solid news and HAD and

2716
02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:30,240
Speaker 1: i absolutely applaud and commend him as well for being

2717
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:34,000
Speaker 1: transparent throughout his journey with prostate cancer and, just letting,

2718
02:23:34,040 --> 02:23:35,800
Speaker 1: you know kind of alerting men to it right to

2719
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:39,200
Speaker 1: the severity of it and making sure that that they're

2720
02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:41,040
Speaker 1: staying on top of that. As well so that was great.

2721
02:23:41,080 --> 02:23:43,760
Speaker 1: News YESTERDAY did I hear PAT and I Mentioned? Deve buka?

2722
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:44,440
Speaker 1: He did.

2723
02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:45,720
Speaker 4: He did.

2724
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:50,959
Speaker 1: He Gave his player Of the, year, awards right did

2725
02:23:50,959 --> 02:23:52,879
Speaker 1: he say? A hat he gave a Hat To? Dave,

2726
02:23:52,959 --> 02:23:54,959
Speaker 1: buka no it was. A plaque HE gotta i know

2727
02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:58,039
Speaker 1: he got a. Hat to he also said that he

2728
02:23:58,040 --> 02:24:00,400
Speaker 1: wanted his statue to Be at Kilroys, were.

2729
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:04,760
Speaker 10: Well do you ever tell him a story about when

2730
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:06,120
Speaker 10: he first turned twenty one?

2731
02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:11,240
Speaker 1: To hooligans he, stepped up says that you've already been

2732
02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:12,959
Speaker 1: Memorialized that kilroy.

2733
02:24:12,680 --> 02:24:16,440
Speaker 10: He stopped up the trough and hooligans because he act.

2734
02:24:16,520 --> 02:24:19,160
Speaker 10: He act he acted the trough and stopped, it up,

2735
02:24:19,200 --> 02:24:21,720
Speaker 10: and nobody nobody stopped whizzing.

2736
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:23,880
Speaker 1: In it so we started. To overflow.

2737
02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:32,320
Speaker 10: And he also he perfect he depants himself too a

2738
02:24:32,360 --> 02:24:34,840
Speaker 10: little bit on the dance Floor, to hooligans and right above,

2739
02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:37,480
Speaker 10: his head it was. Very poetic his dad was Doing

2740
02:24:37,520 --> 02:24:40,039
Speaker 10: a royal On The east side commercial right above.

2741
02:24:40,040 --> 02:24:44,960
Speaker 1: His head i'm, telling you you can tell when You

2742
02:24:45,080 --> 02:24:47,760
Speaker 1: hear pat that he's a fun. Loving dude he was

2743
02:24:47,800 --> 02:24:48,520
Speaker 1: definitely a fun.

2744
02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:51,480
Speaker 10: Loving guy i've never seen anybody but stop up, like

2745
02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:53,199
Speaker 10: that and it was.

2746
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:54,960
Speaker 1: It was.

2747
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:57,600
Speaker 10: His yack he was not feeling great and he stopped

2748
02:24:57,600 --> 02:25:00,359
Speaker 10: that bad, boy up, but nobody nobody came.

2749
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Up to do anything. About it and it. WAS overflowing

2750
02:25:02,600 --> 02:25:05,160
Speaker 1: i mean it's like four feet, deep too so it

2751
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:09,280
Speaker 1: was imagine growing Up in bloomington. And deep it was

2752
02:25:09,320 --> 02:25:15,600
Speaker 1: like a hot tub. Of urine it was you. KNOW that,

2753
02:25:16,959 --> 02:25:19,080
Speaker 1: i mean picture that one for. A moment every we're

2754
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,680
Speaker 1: a month away from the right, of passage which is

2755
02:25:21,800 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 1: that even though.

2756
02:25:22,879 --> 02:25:25,200
Speaker 3: The image of The ways cubs came out of my

2757
02:25:25,280 --> 02:25:27,680
Speaker 3: mind AND now I can't i can't pee a trough

2758
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:28,520
Speaker 3: MAN because i get.

2759
02:25:28,560 --> 02:25:30,879
Speaker 1: Stage. Fright, yeah WELL you're i mean remember the. Old,

2760
02:25:30,959 --> 02:25:33,560
Speaker 1: days yeah The indie amos. Motor speed with, old days

2761
02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:36,400
Speaker 1: the trough was it, was standing it was, two, sided.

2762
02:25:36,480 --> 02:25:39,280
Speaker 1: Right yeah and then the the stalls back in the

2763
02:25:39,320 --> 02:25:41,960
Speaker 1: old days were basically just benches with like. ROUND open.

2764
02:25:42,480 --> 02:25:45,120
Speaker 10: I can't i can't get a drop OUT if i

2765
02:25:45,320 --> 02:25:49,440
Speaker 10: know somebody's standing behind me waiting. AND staring. I, can't

2766
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:52,240
Speaker 10: now you guess stage right therein very much like cheech

2767
02:25:52,320 --> 02:25:54,879
Speaker 10: marin it up. IN smoke i don't think. That's uncommon

2768
02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:58,560
Speaker 10: so what is On The big? Show today we're?

2769
02:25:58,600 --> 02:26:00,960
Speaker 1: GONNA do I Think kevin bone is going to join

2770
02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:01,200
Speaker 1: us for the.

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Speaker 10: MORNING show I Think, chloe peterson she's never been on the,

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02:26:03,360 --> 02:26:05,800
Speaker 10: show before Covers the fever For.

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Speaker 1: The star we will. Do That ted bishop was going

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Speaker 1: to be. ON today i think we're going To move

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Speaker 1: ted back.

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Speaker 10: Until tomorrow speaking of the fan, golf outing we'll talk

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Speaker 10: about the first round Of the masters and the fan

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Speaker 10: golf Outing with ted coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: As Well and Beringers.

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Speaker 10: On friday one of my favorite places and a shout

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Speaker 10: Out to Rob at Berangers On. South meridian it is

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Speaker 10: a glorious place that goes all the way back to

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Speaker 10: the Days.

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Speaker 1: Of dillinger up In that So the beingers. Is awesome

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Speaker 1: we'll be There On.

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02:26:33,680 --> 02:26:38,440
Speaker 10: Furdas beringers it is right There At Pleasant run Parkway.

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Speaker 1: And meridian.

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Speaker 10: Okay there there used to be another bar on the

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Speaker 10: out the other side, of it but it's no. Longer

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Speaker 10: There but berengers has been there going all the way

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Speaker 10: back to like the twenties and, THE thirties, i Think

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Speaker 10: So Pleasant run Parkway. In meridian It's when meridian you

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Speaker 10: get those weird rules where in the morning you can

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Speaker 10: double up going out control.

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Speaker 1: Baby controls we stay out of the lane that changes

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Speaker 1: because What, they yeah no, doubt too because we're Dealing

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Speaker 1: with southsiders and we know how that's going. To end

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Speaker 1: there's nobody gonna be following rules. On that it was

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02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:15,560
Speaker 1: always weird that they chose to give that that lane

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Speaker 1: what do you?

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Speaker 2: Call it?

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Speaker 1: Lane control lane control to the. South, SIDERS yeah. I,

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02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:22,680
Speaker 1: know listen you're Going Up fall creek and, you're, like.

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Speaker 1: OKAY listen i like the fact there's a big green,

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Speaker 1: arrow HERE but i don't know that it says it

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Speaker 1: from the. Other side, All right john's. Up next you

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Speaker 1: will bring you home and we'll be back with you at,

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Speaker 1: noon TOMORROW and i thank you for Listening To quarrying

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Speaker 1: company