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Hello, Robert, and he is the 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: owner and operator of Indiepolitics dot Org. 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: Abdul keep Shabaz, Hello, good morning, my friend. 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so we are we should always preface this because 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: people who hear us on the radio station will hear 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: us on Sunday. We will know the end result of 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: redistricting by the time that airs. However, for friends and well, yes, 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: it's now thing's over until we decided it is. But 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: for our friends and podcast land many of you who 43 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: listen instantaneously when this comes out on Wednesday, we do 44 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: not have a resolution yet too redistricting. We are scheduled 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: to find that out on Thursday, so we will give 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: you the information as we have it in real time. Okay, 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: So the big news was Monday, the Elections Committee, by 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: a vote of six to three, voted to move it forward. However, 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: the three deciding yes votes Abdul will start with you, 50 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: appeared to basically say this is not a guarantee of 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: a yes vote for me on the Senate floor. I'm 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: simply giving my colleagues an opportunity to vote on this. 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: And I said this at the start of the day, 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: especially when I heard Rod Bracey. We'll find out Thursday 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: this thing is going to pass the Elections Committee, so 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: everybody can have a. 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: Say yes that it is not uncommon and our good 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 4: friend mister Merrill, I'll say this as well, for a 59 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: lawmaker to approve something out of committee so it can 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: have a full vote and full full vetting and the 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 4: hold on yards and Membus hold one yards and still 62 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: vote no at the end of the day. 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: That this is not uncommon at all. 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: So for people say like we're just going to pass like, well, 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: well he's up on this, he's up on the breakstort sparky. No, 66 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: not not not so much. It's just a committee vote 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: to move it forward. It's not a vote to say yes. 68 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting if we do that. Well, I 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: saw everything in thirty years other than this, and and 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: and but but but our listeners have to realize though 71 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 5: that let's just back this up a little bit. Sir Bray, 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 5: who is the President pro temporee, who has quite the backbone. Uh, 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 5: he could have assigned this bill to any committee that 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: he wanted and Uh it could be elections, it could 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: be something to do with government affairs, it could be 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: something about like for instance, he chairs the Rules Committee. 77 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where things go to die. 78 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 6: Right. 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: Well sometimes and in recent protempts when when Bob Garton 80 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: was the President of the Senate, Uh, that is that 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: was the dungeon. Uh, David Long did hear bills in 82 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 5: the Rules Committee as the pro tem and and Rod 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: Bray could have assigned this to the Rules Committee and 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: then put his thumb on it because he obviously would 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: know all the votes where the votes were, and killed 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 5: the bill in committee. But Sir Bray, in a lot 87 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 5: of opinions, did the right thing allowing this this bill 88 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: to be heard in the Elections Committee where you know, 89 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 5: not everybody knew where the votes were, where they where 90 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 5: they were not and and and so there's there's some 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: courtesy going on here that that they are extending to 92 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 5: this issue, to this bill House Built ten thirty two. 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 5: And uh now it's passed the Senate Elections Committee, passed 94 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 5: the House of Representatives, passed the Senate Elections Committee. Now 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: the full Senate will hear the bill on thirsdy. 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: Okay. 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: Something I think about too is if I'm doing my 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: vote count right based on previous statements, comments and conversations 99 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: I've had had had had people voted their conscience, it 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: was probably the bill would probably died five to four. 101 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounded like at least two of them. 102 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: And Greg Good, senator from Terahge gave an interview I 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: believe it was WTHI Ben Verbannick yesterday where it kind 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: of sounded like that he was one of those who 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: was saying this needs more work, and I would agree 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: with you. It would had not have passed unless there 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: was probably some clear direction. We need to have a 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: vote on this now. If you do the math, that 109 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: puts you at roughly twenty three no's, twenty one yeses. 110 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: You got to get to twenty five for six, well, 111 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: you gotta get twenty five for Micah beck With to 112 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: break the tie. As the lieutenant governor, one way or another, 113 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: he would obviously vote yes. So the question is, and Jim, 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: you know these people better than either of I do 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: either a biller, I do both in terms of how 116 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: it operates and who and these people themselves. In some cases, 117 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: if you haven't come out and said yes already, I mean, 118 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: once you get the yes. 119 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: The turning points, the fair maps, all those. 120 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: People like leave you alone, why wouldn't you just say 121 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: yes if you're a yes. 122 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, they I don't know if they 123 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 5: want everybody made suspense, uh, but uh, I think they 124 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: want a full vetting. 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 6: I think that uh. 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 5: Uh. The the State House right now, it has fear 127 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 5: uh uh and and and money and uh the. 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: Center of anxiety. 129 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: Yes, and those three uh situations, those three feelings, those 130 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: those you know, those those are factors that are absolutely 131 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 5: running the State House right now, and and and they 132 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 5: are it's it's raw and and in a lot of quarters, 133 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: it's bitter and uh and and what you're seeing is 134 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 5: that people are are are keeping to themselves on what 135 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 5: what their vote will be. There are several members of 136 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: the Senate that I'm assuming they're going to vote one 137 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: way or another from their statements and from their personalities. 138 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 5: But they and folks need to know that, uh, you know, 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 5: five years ago and prior to that, we wouldn't go 140 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: to the floor unless we had twenty seven Republican votes. 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 5: That not twenty six, but twenty seven. 142 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: So I got squirrely yes. 143 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: And in that show, what Cenaer Bracey said on before was 144 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: unless you have a majority of the majority to pass something, 145 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: it's not going to go to the floor because it's 146 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: a waste of giant time. I think things have gotten 147 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: so weird and so bizarre in this situation here that 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: Bray for the first time has gotten rid of that rule, like, hey, 149 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: we just let members vote their concient's not going to 150 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: press anybody like I'm gonna vote. But if Senator you know, 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: Senator Kenda wants to vote yes, Senor Mayor wants to 152 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: vote no, We'll let everybody vote their conscious And I 153 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna telling you, I'm sure the the caucus. Bray 154 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: has told these guys over and over again, listen to 155 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: your constituents. Yeah, so at the end of the day, 156 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: those are the people you have to answer to. Well, 157 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: so that was gonna be My question is who are 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: these undecided are I guess unannounced listening to? I mean, 159 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: do they go to Bray and say, hey, man, are 160 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: you gonna help me if I do this? Because you 161 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: know you got a turning point. USA is not gonna 162 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: spend a gajillion dollars primary senators. Now, those fair maps guys, 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: they've got a lot of local ties. Maybe they will 164 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, but they got to have some sort 165 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: of conversation with break because they know what he wants. 166 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: And they got to you, like, I mean, does that 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: happened before? Where they go to It was David Long 168 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: for a lot of your time, Garden for your your time. 169 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: But do they go to the big boss and go, hey, 170 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: look man, I'm on your team. But you gotta help 171 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: me here, right, right. 172 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 5: But it was when I began in the Senate, we 173 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 5: were twenty six twenty four, yeah, and at times twenty 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: eight twenty two, sometimes thirty twenty, and you didn't have 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 5: a whole lot of votes to uh, to allow somebody 176 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 5: to flake off and flake off is the wrong word. 177 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: But to not have another word. You can use the 178 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: stars letter half. 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, not to not to be on the team, 180 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 5: if you will. And so this is these are uncommon times. 181 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 5: And and you know it's just a real uh biology project. 182 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just a real different time there that 183 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 5: that uh and and and you know, we don't know, uh, 184 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 5: maybe the federal maybe the national political scene is is 185 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: reaching in and you know, federal funding of hospitals or. 186 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: You know, or or your tall road or as medicaid waiver. 187 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 6: We don't know what. 188 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: You gotta reject that though, right, you gotta go, okay, 189 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: mister president, you tell deep red Indiana, because we didn't do. 190 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: This one thing for you. You tell us. 191 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: Then you say that you gotta you gotta look a 192 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: bully in the in the face, right, and go go ahead, 193 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: go ahead and throw the first punt. 194 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: I said, calls bluff. Yeah, that's that's my point. 195 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: Right, Hey, come to my district and see where Indiana 196 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: and tell them you guys aren't getting the hospital because 197 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: represented blah blah wouldn't draw an imaginary line on a map. 198 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: Well that and this is where whether it's I've always 199 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 3: said it was Turning Point, I mean, those guys are 200 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: really obnoxious, by the way. 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: I mean those guys are the worst because a lot 202 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: of them don't even live in our state. But any 203 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: of these people, my response to them has been you're 204 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: gonna primary this senator and say what when you knock 205 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: on the door, this person didn't do what you wanted? 206 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: Like what what? What is what is the pitch at 207 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: the door? Here, here's the pitch. 208 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: This person didn't do what you didn't want them to do. Yeah, 209 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: think about that, somebody, somebody you were doing Brownsberg. Who's 210 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: your state? 211 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: Senator? Oh, I have Clark Clark? 212 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 4: Hey, uh, mister, and missus Kendall, I'm from Turning Point, USA. 213 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: You know, slam the door like, hi, miss we want 214 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: you to vote against Senator Clark. Why because he did 215 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: what you wanted to do? Was he didn't vote for 216 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: these maps that Donald Trump's needs. Okay, excuse me. 217 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: You know it comes down to hand to hand politics 218 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: and and when util or when environmentalists were threatening threatening, 219 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 5: you know, politically threatening me and uh and talking to constituents, 220 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: and they would in turn send me email. 221 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 6: I would go visit those people. 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 5: And there were twenty three people that I'd stop by 223 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 5: and see on my way. 224 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: Home from I love that you just randomly showed up 225 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: at people's house. 226 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they had no idea number one who I was, 227 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: and they still don't. 228 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 3: Probably never do that today, as nutty as people are. 229 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 5: Well, I yeah, I probably would because you know, uh, 230 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 5: you kind of it takes a lot of work. 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Yeah, well I 273 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: wasn't going to alley would wear a tie the whole day. 274 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: But there were I think one hundred and twenty seven 275 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: people scheduled to speak. Now this why I don't do 276 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: anything nice for anybody, because I was asked by the 277 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: no people. They're like, look, we need a little more 278 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: perhaps professional presentation than maybe some of the other people. 279 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: And a little more. 280 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: Somebody who knows how to speak the language of the 281 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: folks in the room or English. 282 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: And so they said, would you go do this? 283 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: And I said, you know me, I'm out of here 284 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: at noon and I go home and watch my stories 285 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: and take my nap and you know, get ready to 286 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: get ready to run the day care service in the evening. 287 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: So I'm loath to ever do anything that involves anything afternoon. 288 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: But very good friends of mine who are very good people, 289 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: asked me to go speak as Okay, I'll go do it, 290 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: and ended up being there for three and a half hours. Right, 291 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: So this is why I don't do anything nice for anybody. 292 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: But that was my one good deed for the year. 293 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: I will say this now. I think it ended up 294 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: being not almost one hundred people spoke, It was overwhelmingly no. However, 295 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: the no people they don't understand how the game is played, 296 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: and they got to get Look, they can't help themselves 297 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: because a lot of a lot of not all their individuals. 298 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: Perhaps, shall we see the way my. 299 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: Probre just guy was the one guy had kind of 300 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: a Southern drawl in his voice, and I want these 301 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: Somali and Muslims in this Muslim brotherhood. 302 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: Was like, oh my god, oh I missed that one. 303 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: He was here's here, here's here. 304 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: At the end, Okay, yeah, I was, I was about 305 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: number fifty that went out of the hundred or so 306 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: who spoke. And one of the problems was they've got 307 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: those little bitty speakers because normally you just don't have 308 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: a flood of people out there, so they're little speakers 309 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: you can hear as you're walking by. You couldn't hear 310 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: anything the cross the translator thing is, you know, twenty 311 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: seconds behind, so you're having a hard time keeping track. 312 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: But when you are booing people in mass which the 313 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: no people were, and I get your passionate about it, 314 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: and I get that you feel strongly, but you got 315 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: to understand the language these senators are speaking. And one 316 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: that's not going to sway them either way. 317 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: They already know you're. 318 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: Against it, and you you come, you had the sympathy 319 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: kind of behind you. You're gonna lose it by the 320 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: way they were behaving and kept trying to tell people 321 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: that and they just were not hearing it right. 322 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 5: And you know your you're uh. Your rally last year 323 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: created a lot of noise, and you had some legislators there, 324 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 5: and you had the governor there and and so you 325 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 5: know that that was good. That due well, it created 326 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 5: a lot of us UH and a lot of activity, 327 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 5: and uh, I'm not sure a whole lot of fear 328 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: because it didn't didn't it didn't make any difference. But uh, 329 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 5: there are people that actually came to the state House 330 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 5: and and and and were engaged in your issue of 331 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: property taxes and uh uh I think it was it 332 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: was something solid to get behind and and the know 333 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: uh was very you know, really difficult, uh in this 334 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: whole situation because there's really nothing to grasp there. 335 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 336 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: Well then and another thing too is uh, well, I 337 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: don't think and it's just protesting in general. Do you 338 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: want to generate heat or light at the end of 339 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: the day, what do you want to because anybody can 340 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: make a lot of noise. We do that, we do 341 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: that every day here. But thinking it's okay, what happens 342 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: after you're done? What happens after you all to even 343 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 4: go away? Because well you're you're you're right. 344 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: And this why when when I went there speak, I 345 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: asked the people who asked me, because I'm doing them 346 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: asilid and obviously I'm against it. I wouldn't take any position. 347 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: I already have it. What do you want? You want smoke? 348 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: What do you want? 349 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: And they said, well, probably the best way to speak 350 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: to these people is to, you know, use logic, and 351 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: and people were floored how kind I actually was, Like people, 352 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: reable people, media were doing. Rob Kendall is in the room, 353 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: like we you think, I'm gone up there and scream 354 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: at these people. So in hindsight, I kind of wish 355 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: I had, because I got a lot of grievances with 356 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: even the people that are But I it is fascinating 357 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: because you mentioned the the I was asked to quote 358 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: for a piece. 359 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: I think it's coming out today. 360 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: On on this whole the the Yes people and how 361 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: they've handled the turning point, ussays, et cetera. And I said, 362 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: one of the things that I learned from the property 363 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: tax debacle was it doesn't matter if you but ten 364 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: thousand letters out to people if it isn't targeted. You 365 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: have to target your approach. And at the end of 366 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: the day, what happened to us was, yeah, we put 367 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: literally tens of thousands of people in the game, but 368 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: it wasn't enough in each district to overcome the local 369 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: school system or the local city mayor, right, because you 370 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: got to have your own level of influential people in 371 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: that community, because they don't care if you live in Lafayette. 372 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: Got some lawmaker in Muncy doesn't care. And the and 373 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: the Yes people and redistrict being apparently learned nothing from 374 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: our experience because they're doing the same. 375 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 6: Thing, pical marketing, one on one. 376 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: It is. 377 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: It is the fundamental communications. Know your audience, know who 378 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: you are talking to, plain and simple. The way I 379 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: talked to lawmaker and Munsey is not necessarily the same. 380 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 4: We'll talking Lowmaker Seymour or Gary or New Albany or Indianapolis. 381 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 4: Help thirty post Rode is different than thirty feth umbercent 382 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: Oft Aaron Houscha may not necessarily. 383 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Well, And this is what I told about it. 384 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: They said, look, my mistake was I listened to Braun 385 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 2: and they were like, yeah, we got this, and I 386 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: was asking them what do you want us to do? 387 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 2: And I was doing the things that they wanted us 388 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: to do to run it through them in hindsight, knowing 389 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: what I know now, because I had no idea any 390 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: of this word. I've never done anything like this before, 391 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: and clearly egregious mistake listening to anything Braun or Josh 392 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: Kelly or any of those people. 393 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: Said the guy with a twenty five percent approval. 394 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: Well that's but you know, you don't know, right, You're thinking, Okay, 395 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: he's the governor, he's going to know who who needs 396 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, you know, massaging or screaming or whatever. 397 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: Uh. 398 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: Clearly he didn't know his head from oh it's a 399 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: family program. He didn't know his head from his backside. 400 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: But the point in all this is you've got to 401 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: go directly to the people with people who live in 402 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: that community. 403 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: And that's how you flip people on big issues. 404 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 5: It's it's really political marketing, one on one that you 405 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 5: have to go where people live and you have to 406 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 5: you have to reach them on something that they care about. 407 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: And if it's schools, or if it's property taxes, or 408 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: if it's you know, anything that's dealing with their everyday lives. 409 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: And that's that's how you that's how you affect people. 410 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 5: That's how you create change. And right now, uh, you know, 411 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: the fear and the money and the anxiety. Uh, it 412 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 5: may it worked in the House of Representatives, you know, 413 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 5: and the people in the national. 414 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: Lot, right, I mean it was fifty seven for one. 415 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: That's a lot of Republicans who didn't go play ball, right. 416 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 5: But the national political party, the Republican Party right now 417 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 5: is in an incredible panic of losing Congress, and that's 418 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 5: what's driving all this. And who knows if they get 419 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: it done. But if they got it done by one 420 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: vote in the House of Representatives, they got it done. 421 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 6: It's a it's a it's a w and see. 422 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: Another thing too, is uh for an issue to work 423 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: with regular people, you have to make it relevant to 424 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: regular people's lives. You're right, how does this How does 425 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: this new map affect my schools? How does affect inflation? Healthcare? Cause, 426 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: all all the things that we could be talking about, 427 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: but we're not going to talk about redistricting and the 428 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: pro reditioning people have not made that case. 429 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: You're right, the in the know people, the logical, those 430 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: of us in the like not just screaming about ridiculousness. 431 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: On the NO side have made that case, which is saying, look, 432 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: you are gutting communities of interest with these maps, You're 433 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: gutting the ability to represent like minded people, geography, commerce, 434 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: time zones, all of those things. You can make that 435 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: case very easily. On the NO side. There's no yes 436 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: that's beneficial other than it helps Trump. That's it right, 437 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: and most people don't care about that. 438 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: Now, dou that. 439 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 5: I've always thought that lawsuits, wins will ensue, but not 440 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 5: being a lawyer, and I haven't read the text of 441 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 5: the bill. But uh, their ability or their their their 442 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 5: interest in hampering court action on this law is should 443 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 5: it pass? 444 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 6: Uh? Does that? Does that pass the smell test? 445 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: No? It doesn't. Okay, it doesn't all and. 446 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: So real quick, just to clarify what you're talking about 447 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 2: as part of this bill, they they there's language there 448 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: which basically says it has to go directly to the 449 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: Indiana Supreme Court. Some local judge can't rule. And look, 450 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: am duel, you're the lawyer here and you're the law maker. 451 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: So you guys know this better than I do. You 452 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: can't just make up the law and how. 453 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: The court system operates. 454 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: Can you under under certain under certain pretense, under certain context? 455 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: This get is a little complicated. We's gotta keep this 456 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: uh as low level as possible. You can't remove jurisdiction 457 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 4: like this is going to appellate court or it must 458 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 4: be in this court, this court. But do a but 459 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: do a wholesale you know on the Supreme Court can 460 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: hear this well? When it's child and it's going to 461 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 4: be challenged at the trial court level. 462 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: That's my point. I can't just say the court system 463 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: works in a new way that we want it to 464 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: work on this. 465 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 6: That's why I brought this up. 466 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the trial court is gonna say like, no, 467 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 4: you can't do this, this is unconstitutional. And then if 468 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 4: if the law is declared it a constitution automatically goes 469 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: to the Inandana Supreme Court. 470 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: Look, here's the deal. Under no circumstance should I ever 471 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: be the reasonable person in any area? Like I mean, 472 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: this is how ridiculous this is. This is like, this 473 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: is how the yes like, there's no circumstance where everybody 474 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: should go. Rob is the voice of reason and sanity 475 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: in this room, and that's how ridiculous these yes, Redistrict. 476 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 6: You're you the stand up comedian here? 477 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 3: Yes? Hey, real quick. 478 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: One thing that's super interesting to me is if this 479 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: ends twenty five to twenty five, Micah Beck with the 480 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor would be the tie breaking vote. Now, he's 481 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: not the head of anything anymore, but he is by name, 482 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: the head of agriculture. And it is indisputable that that 483 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: rural Indiana is gonna get hurt in this bill. And 484 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: I think because look, yes, no, it ain't gon affect 485 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: my life either way. It's gonna be the same level 486 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: of poor representation no matter no matter who it is. 487 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: But I think that would be the most fitting thing 488 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: to this whole dumpster fire process is if the Lieutenant 489 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: governor casts the tie breaking vote to screw farmers and 490 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: agriculture in the state of Indiana. 491 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: There's gonna be a lot of there's going to be 492 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 5: a lot of problems that ensue with this legislation, including 493 00:23:53,720 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 5: that it's uh, you know, the courts, the local government. 494 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 5: We heard former Mayor Ballard talk about the the problems 495 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: that are going to happen should this bill pass and 496 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: be signed by the governor, and uh and and we 497 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 5: we probably don't know all the situations they are created 498 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 5: by this. 499 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 4: And by the way, it's also an unfunded mandate because 500 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: it's not just a matter of drawing a line on 501 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: a map. It's precincts. It's precincts, it's election workers, it's conventions, 502 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: it's the whole nine yards. Yeah, Kate, Kate Sweeneybell, what 503 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: if she's the clerk county and she spoke and and 504 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: she's a Democrat, but I think she echoes the sentiment 505 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: of many Republican clerks, which is, wait a second, you 506 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: guys are going to do this and we got a 507 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 4: less than a month to figure out how to make 508 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: it work. 509 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: How is that fair to us? 510 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: And what sort of money and extra resources a you're 511 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: putting behind this because you know, as soon as it 512 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: gets screwed up, the rigged election, people are going to 513 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: be screaming and shouting and everything else when they've created 514 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: this problem. 515 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: When we did the last map is basically fifteen months 516 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: from start. Yeah, finish, new precincts, new lines, should be 517 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: the whole nine yard. Yeah, they're basically going to do 518 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 4: this same Friday. And if it passes, these guys got 519 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 4: to what mid January? 520 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: Because seventh is the filing opens the filing window, Right 521 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: is that right? Is it the seventh? I think so? 522 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 6: I think yeah, it's sometime in early January. 523 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: It's very early January. And on top of that, it's 524 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: Christmas time. Yeah. What if you're some person who's planning 525 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: to take the last two weeks like me, who. 526 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: You save up all your days throughout the course of 527 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: the year, I'm out of here, Friday is my last day? 528 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: What what? 529 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: What? What? 530 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: If you're that person, you got to just reverse course. 531 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 3: You don't get your off days. What are we doing? 532 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: Also, when I was Marion County Republican chairman, I work 533 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 5: really well with Kate and uh, and she knows what word. 534 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: Well with everyone because you're the most likable person. Well, 535 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that if ned Flanders was a human, 536 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: it would be you, Jim Marrick, Jim Merrick. 537 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 5: I'm just saying that, you know, she knows what she's 538 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 5: talking about. 539 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, they don't care though, That's point. These 540 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: get these people that are for Yes, they care about 541 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: themselves and you know they want con Well, it's a 542 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 2: group of people. It's internet influencers who want favor with Trump, 543 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 2: it's the politicians who want power, and it's these political 544 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: consultant people who are going to make a gajillion dollars 545 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: if these races open up. That is the majority of 546 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: the block of the people that are pushing this. 547 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 3: And explain this to your constituents. That's my thing. 548 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: Explain your constituents why I don't want you to do this. 549 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 4: We don't want it doesn't affect our lives. Doesn't prove 550 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: our lives? Why did you vote for this? 551 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 6: Quickly? 552 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: I have a time frame. Lawsuits filed either on Friday 553 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: or Monday. What what's a time frame? 554 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: It's loss of FO So is the governor's signed? 555 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yes, no, and so he does Thursday night yeah. 556 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: Uh, and then and then Friday morning, ten o'clock, go 557 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: to my case dot govt to go to pacer. 558 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 6: Is it a week or two or three? 559 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: No? 560 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: No, no, lawsuits are ready to go. I'll go just 561 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: the fundract press. 562 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 6: Lay out the time we count. 563 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, we real quick, cause I got a minute left here. Uh, 564 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 3: pretty days to respond. 565 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: Then there's they're probably gonna ask for a plumber injunction 566 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 4: to stop these mounts from going into effect. Got to 567 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 4: hear it on the plumber injunction, and then it probably 568 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: takes about a year or so for everything to go through. 569 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 6: Now that's the problem. 570 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're right, Okay, thirty seconds left. Uh. 571 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: There will obviously be a vote on Thursday. We're told, 572 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: will it pass? Abdul, I don't think so. No, No, 573 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: both of you still know? 574 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 5: No? 575 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: Okay, Uh, I don't know. 576 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: Man, I'm so torn on this because I cannot see 577 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: them letting the governor fail in front of the entire nation. 578 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: I can how at well, however he's asked for it. 579 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: I am loath to defend Rod Bray on anything, but 580 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: he has given him every opportunity to exit, you know, 581 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 2: take the exit in front of him with grace and dignity. 582 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: And sometimes you just got to get people what they 583 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: ask them. 584 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 6: It would be fitting if Micah lost the vote, and if. 585 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: He screwed all those farmers, that would be totally fitting. 586 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: Jim Merritt. 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