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Speaker 1: Four o'clock tomorrow, the roster deadline for the fifty three man.

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Speaker 1: And then I think the celebration that you listen s

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Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot to get you even

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Speaker 2: We had week zero already in the Bookstake Eddie frank

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the clock management's tough with anything having to do

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Speaker 1: But there's all this to talk about, the Colts roster,

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Speaker 1: When I worked at Channel six years ago, the sports

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Speaker 1: this year, and my tuk a little high school fotball

434
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Speaker 1: with him as well. Everything getting underway this Saturday, college

435
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: football and I realized, yes, there have been games played,

436
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: but for Indiana a much anticipated season obviously. I think

437
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: last year there was obviously a lot of intrigue just

438
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: because Kurt Signetti was new and certainly the bravada of

439
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti. And then he backed it up. And you

440
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: know I mentioned earlier this week it was so much fun.

441
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was probably the middle of March before,

442
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: like just the surreal nature of sitting in a packed

443
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: bar in December watching Indiana and Notre Dame play and

444
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: a nationally televised college football playoff game with the entire

445
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: state and country watching. It was so cool, but at

446
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: the same time it was just it was surreal. But

447
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: can Indiana now back it up? It begins with Old

448
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Dominion coming up this Saturday. Don Fisher is the voice

449
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: of the Hoosiers and joins us on they always busy

450
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: and now available again to be sponsored guest line. Don

451
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: Let's get to the important stuff first, though, and that

452
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: is I heard you on with J ANDV on Friday,

453
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: and you're getting ready to go out and watch a

454
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Speaker 1: little high school football with your son, Scott Fisher's team

455
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Edgewood taking on Mitchell and from what I could tell,

456
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: and I was at IndyCar up in Milwaukee, but I

457
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: checked scores. Looked like it was a pretty good Friday

458
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Speaker 1: night for you.

459
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Speaker 4: Well, it was a better Friday night than some of

460
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: the Friday nights I've spent the last couple of years

461
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: at Edgwood. But no, there was no doubt they played

462
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 4: pretty well. They've got a young team. Scott has talked

463
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: about these kids since they were in eighth grade, some

464
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: of them. They've got a really good nucleus of young players.

465
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Speaker 5: They're still young.

466
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: They've got a bunch of junior and sophomores that are

467
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: making up a good portion of the starting lineups.

468
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 5: On both sides of the football. And these kids have.

469
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: Come a long way. Last year I went and saw

470
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: most of these kids were sophomores, watched them play just

471
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: get hammered a couple of times because they just weren't

472
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: big and strong enough and man if their body change.

473
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: They've got a good.

474
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: Strength and conditioning program now and they look like they're

475
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: going to be a pretty good football team this year.

476
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: I would expect that they've got a good chance to

477
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: be five hundred or better, and next year it could

478
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: even be better than that. So we'll just have to

479
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 4: wait and see.

480
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Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting, Don because and there's a

481
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: reason I bring this up as we talk about IU,

482
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: but like at the high school level, for example, there

483
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: are so many teams, maybe basketball more than football, but

484
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: sure it helps to have great athletes, right. I mean

485
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: that goes without saying, but you can win games a

486
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of times, or you can build a program when

487
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: you have a group of kids that have played together

488
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: since like say fifth, sixth, seventh grade, and they know

489
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: each other and they go through the riggers together. Right

490
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: at the high school level, you can see that and

491
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: probably you are seeing that with Edgewood, right, I mean

492
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: you've got to kind of grow a foundation with kids

493
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: that are going through that process together.

494
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Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?

495
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: There's no question, And certainly at Edgewood they struggle for

496
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: many years. They really had their problems. And Scott took

497
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: over the program two years ago. This is his third season.

498
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: He started building all the things that you have to build.

499
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: You had a freshman, put together a freshman schedule. Initially

500
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: the freshman became jvs. Then they're now it's a lot

501
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: like I said, last year or this year, juniors and sophomores.

502
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: They've got some seniors on the team too that are

503
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: very good players, but they just don't have the numbers.

504
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Speaker 5: And watched it grow last year.

505
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: They were better than they were two years ago. They

506
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: weren't great, but they were better. But they were so young.

507
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: And then you see these kids start to develop a

508
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: little bit and they look different, and there's no question

509
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: their confidence is building too. And part of that is

510
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: winning games. You've got to be able to win some

511
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: ball games. And they started out with a really good

512
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: win this first game. Now that's say kind of South

513
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: Spencer team.

514
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: I think this week that'll be a more.

515
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: Difficult challenge, and then from that point forward, you hope

516
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: that they can continue to grow. And like I said,

517
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: if they could win five or six ball games this year,

518
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: it would be phenomenal for their confidence and for the

519
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: belief in the program, and it'll just keep building after that.

520
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: If you can keep it going, and.

521
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Speaker 4: I think my son's put a pretty good foundation there

522
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: at that you would right now. And I think the

523
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: Ellisville people have really supported it and supported him really well.

524
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: So all those kinds of things are hugely important to

525
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Speaker 4: building a program.

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Speaker 1: Ed you what a thirty eight nothing winner over Mitchell

527
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: to start off the football season. Don The reason I

528
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: asked that about just the chemistry and the building. Obviously,

529
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: from the college level it's different because you get guys

530
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: for four years and you get guys that are coming

531
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: from all kinds of different backgrounds. But Indiana this year

532
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: again has a big roster reset and Kurt Signette was

533
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: able to do that last year, but a lot of

534
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: those guys he brought in had played with each other

535
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: at JMU. Let's begin with one of the new faces

536
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: and the most important position, and that's at quarterback in

537
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, who comes in from cal big arm, big expectation.

538
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: What have you seen or heard in talking to people

539
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: that makes him either similar to or different in style

540
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: from Curtis Wark, who was really good for Indiana a

541
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: year ago.

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Speaker 4: Well, Fernando is a talent, There's no question about that.

543
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 5: He's got a big arm.

544
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: He's accurate with his throws based on what I've seen

545
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: so far in spring and fall practices.

546
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Speaker 5: The one thing he has more so than Curtis had.

547
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: And obviously everybody knows that Rourke was dealing with a

548
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: torn acl the entire season last year.

549
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: Played exactly, despite the fact that he.

550
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: Played so mobility was not Curtis's strong point, as you

551
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: can imagine, and Curtis making decisions and looking at defenses,

552
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: making the right throws of the right decisions, and who

553
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: he went to the.

554
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: To the past with.

555
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: I just thought he was phenomenal that we haven't seen

556
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: Fernando do.

557
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: That yet because obviously he played at Cattle last year.

558
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: He was chased all over the field because he was

559
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: sacked forty seven times last year with a battle offensive

560
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: line in front of him. And when I got the

561
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: spring practice this year, the first thing I thought of, well,

562
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: how bad happy fee is this.

563
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 5: Guy gonna have?

564
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: And he did have a little bit of jitters out there.

565
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: You could just tell that he'd gone through some travel

566
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: last year in regard to getting sacked all the time.

567
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 5: But here's the thing. The guy can run like a deer.

568
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: He's six five, I have two hundred and twenty five pounds,

569
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: and he brings a mobility that Indiana did not having

570
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: Curtis last year at any point in time, and that

571
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: will help this ball club. Now, how many plays you'll

572
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: run on purpose, that's a whole different story at this point.

573
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 5: But he is capable of moving the football.

574
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 4: With his feet and his legs, more so than Curtis

575
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: ever thought of doing last season. So that makes him

576
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: a different type of quarterback. But I think his arm

577
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: his arm strength is a little bit better than what

578
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: Curtis's was. I don't know if his accuracy is as

579
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: good at this point as you would hope it would be.

580
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: And again, I'm not putting anything negative on that from

581
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: that standpoint, I just haven't seen it yet. But I

582
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: do think he's a big time talent, There's no question

583
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: about that. And he actually has two years of eligibility

584
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Speaker 4: if he's not good enough to go to the NFL

585
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: next year.

586
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Speaker 5: So this is a guy that could be around for

587
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Speaker 5: a while.

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Speaker 1: And Don I really like And I want you to

589
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: tell me, Don Fisher, the voice of the who Us

590
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: is our guest, you know, you tell me if I'm

591
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: off base here. Maybe I'm a little bit biased because

592
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: I liked EJ. Williams a lot when he was a

593
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: young player at Clemson and then he came to Indiana

594
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: and that, you know, just that pedigree alone entices you.

595
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: But I really like the receiving room. I feel like

596
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: he's got pretty good weapons. He can throw to. But

597
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: am I too bullish on that?

598
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: No?

599
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: In fact, you know, last year, nobody knew how deep

600
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: that receiving room was because they didn't know, you know,

601
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: how good some of those other receivers were a Miles

602
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 4: Price and Keishawn Williams.

603
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: And guys like that that nobody's ever heard of because

604
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 5: they came out of the portal this year.

605
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: That's not the case. I mean, EJ. Williams is a talent,

606
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: There's no question. His only problem in Indiana has been

607
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 4: that he hasn't been able to stay healthy. And in

608
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: the spring and here in the fall, he has been

609
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: healthy the entire time, which is a huge, huge thing

610
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: because this guy is six three and got tremendous ability

611
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: to catch the football and good speed.

612
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: To go along with size. You also have Omar Cooper

613
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: back and.

614
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 4: Elijah Surat, who was just tremendous last year. Both those

615
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: guys made big inroads for Indiana's receiving corps last season.

616
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: Those two guys, along with e. J. Williams, now give

617
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 4: you a big room again. And it's even bigger because

618
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: there's a freshman named Lebron Bond who I have watched

619
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: in the spring end now here in the fall. And

620
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 4: this freshman is tremendous.

621
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Speaker 5: He's a little guy.

622
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 4: But he's very much like some of the other guys

623
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: we saw last year come out of nowhere and be

624
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: factors for Indiana football. So, and they've got others as well.

625
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: Charlie Becker's a red shirt freshman. I guess he's a

626
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: sophoboard this year. He did play enough last year to

627
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: Burn's red shirt. But Charlie Becker is one of the

628
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: fastest guys on the team. But he's like six three

629
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: sixty four, another big receiver. So their wide receiving room

630
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: is as deep, if not that it was a year ago.

631
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Speaker 4: And I don't think there's any question they've got tons

632
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 4: of talent there.

633
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: Don Where is the part of Indiana that is a

634
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: question mark for you? You know, when they get underway here

635
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday against Old Dominion, what's and as

636
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: the year goes on, what's the one thing that you

637
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: look at and say, that's where I want them to

638
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: kind of prove to me that they've short it up.

639
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: Well, the biggest, probably the biggest question mark would be

640
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: the interior defensive line.

641
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 5: CJ.

642
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 4: West is gone. James Carpenter's gone two of the best

643
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: defensive line that Indiana has had in some time. Both

644
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 4: those guys graduated there. I think CJ. West is hooked

645
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: on with an NFL team. I'm not sure by James Carpenter.

646
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: All I know is that those are the spots that

647
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: know where that Kurtzingntti was trying to fill out of

648
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 4: the portal.

649
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: I think he got a.

650
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: Guy named Moseiah Wheeler is a very talented young guy,

651
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: not young, but a talented player that they've brought in

652
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: along with a couple of other guys. Kid named Wyatt

653
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: at one of the defensive end spots could be a

654
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Speaker 4: major factor for them as well from Maryland. So there

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Speaker 4: there's an interior defensive line that you know they could

656
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Speaker 4: be very good. But we just haven't seen him play yet.

657
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Speaker 4: We'll have to see how these guys all work out.

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Speaker 4: Mary Landino was another guy that played a lot last

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Speaker 4: year as a true freshman. Burt his red shirt. I

660
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Speaker 4: think he's probably going to see a ton of action

661
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Speaker 4: this year as well, and we'll just have to see.

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Speaker 4: But that if there is one spot that I would question,

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Speaker 4: it would be the interior defensive line, just to see

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Speaker 4: if they could prove themselves like CJ. West and James

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Speaker 4: Carpenter did last year.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, Don a year ago. You know, Kurt Signetti, we

667
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Speaker 1: talked about this and it all paid off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti, he had a larger than life presence about

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Speaker 1: Indiana right when he got on campus, and I think

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Speaker 1: part of that was out of necessity, both for himself

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Speaker 1: and just for that program in general. How is he

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Speaker 1: different a year later, or is he in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form different just in terms of his approach

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Speaker 1: to the season.

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Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti, in my opinion, doesn't change. He's the same coach.

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Speaker 4: He has the same philosophy. Everything that he talked about

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Speaker 4: last year he's talked about this year. He's gone about

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Speaker 4: his bring practices and his fall practices identically. He believes

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Speaker 4: in his team and his philosophy and how they go

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Speaker 4: about preparing for the season. And I think in our

681
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Speaker 4: press conference they just had a little while ago, he

682
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Speaker 4: talked about the fact that we still haven't proved anything yet,

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Speaker 4: but he says, I do believe we've got a good

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Speaker 4: football team, but I think this team will have a

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Speaker 4: chance to prove itself that could be even better than

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Speaker 4: last year's team. And that's how he looks at it.

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Speaker 4: But right now, I think from a process standpoint, nothing

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Speaker 4: has changed with Kurt Signetti. He does everything the same

689
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Speaker 4: year in and year out as far as directing the program.

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Speaker 1: The time is here for Indiana football. You have been

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Speaker 1: waiting for it, folks. It is here. Two thirty. Everything

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Speaker 1: gets underway. But pregame one thirty coverage right here on

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Speaker 1: this radio station coming up on Saturday, and then Don

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Speaker 1: Fisher will have the call Indiana an old dominion to

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Speaker 1: kick off the season. Don appreciate it. As always, We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Soon, all right, all right, Jake, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Don Fisher, the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, there was over the weekend a

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Speaker 1: first in sports here in central Indiana that we will recap.

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Speaker 1: And yes, obviously our eyes are on the Colts, primarily

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Speaker 1: Mike Chapil going to join us coming up at two

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Speaker 1: o'clock today, But to recap a weekend and something that

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Speaker 1: I witnessed away from Indianapolis that shed light on the

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Speaker 1: way things can be in Indianapolis. And I'll explain what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about next. Ed Carpenter are going to join

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Speaker 1: us coming up bottom of the one o'clock hour yesterday

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Speaker 1: Christian Rasmussen getting his first win in the NTT IndyCar Series.

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Speaker 1: And interesting because in Portland two weeks ago, you know,

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Speaker 1: Rasmussen was involved in a situation with Connor Daily where

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Speaker 1: Connor Daily afterwards said to me Rasmussen had hit everything

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Speaker 1: but the lottery.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good line.

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Speaker 1: And Rasmussen is definitely it's he is has the reputation

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Speaker 1: of being a fearless type racer and sometimes that's misconstrued

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Speaker 1: as a reckless racer. When he was coming up through

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Speaker 1: Indie Next, I mean, he was definitely one that was like, man,

718
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Speaker 1: this guy will try to put the car anywhere. And

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Speaker 1: at times it doesn't mean that he was always the

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Speaker 1: best of equipment, but in the five hundred he was

721
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Speaker 1: pretty impressive. As a rookie last year, I remember being like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's not afraid of the moment.

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Speaker 2: For certain, He's been pretty good on those short ovals

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Speaker 2: this show. He has man For a guy that.

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Speaker 1: You know did not grow up in the United States

726
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Speaker 1: running around on ovals, I mean he has figured that

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Speaker 1: out in a big way.

728
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Speaker 2: Was it Iowa where he was making that insane push

729
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Speaker 2: and then like there were a couple of crashes and

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Speaker 2: it didn't go his way exactly.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I mean, and when you get on those

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Speaker 1: short ovals, Eddy, I mean, you're in traffic all the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've just got to be able to feel

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Speaker 1: your car. Now, what happened yesterday was late in the race,

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Speaker 1: alex Polo was dominant, yep, all race. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if Alex Polo had not already secured the championship and

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Speaker 1: that was still in the balance, would they have strategically

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Speaker 1: played it differently down the stretch maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But and the last when there was a weird it

740
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Speaker 1: was really weird because all of a sudden there was

741
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Speaker 1: like this sprinkle and so they threw out the caution.

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Speaker 1: I mean rightly so, but it wasn't for very long.

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Speaker 1: But during that caution is when every team but essentially Pulo,

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Speaker 1: McLaughlin and a few of them running up front came

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Speaker 1: in for fresh tires. And that just was the difference

746
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Speaker 1: for Rasmus and he had a grip where he was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he closed din on Polo quickly, and Polo

748
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Speaker 1: just finally, you know, he couldn't get once Resis and

749
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Speaker 1: got past him, he checked out and got his win.

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Speaker 1: But when we were in Milwaukee, probably whenever the schedule

751
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Speaker 1: was announced, I bought a ticket for the Brewers game.

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Speaker 2: Just one, just you, just me. No Michael Young with

753
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: threw up on his lap or anything, no, or any cheetos.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times what will happen is I'll buy

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Speaker 1: a ticket, you know, we'll instead of buying five tickets

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Speaker 1: together or whatever. You know, we we all kind of

757
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: sometimes when we go to these races, myself, Nick Yehman,

758
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Speaker 1: Michael Young, Mark James, you know, Chris Pollock is our

759
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Speaker 1: general manager, Rick Evans, who's our engineer. A lot of

760
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Speaker 1: times you never know from one of the next, like

761
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Speaker 1: somebody will say like hey, I got a college buddy

762
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Speaker 1: that lives in this town, or I've got to do this,

763
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Speaker 1: or got to do that, or I got to stay

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Speaker 1: late and do this.

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Speaker 5: You know.

766
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Speaker 1: But we all strategize what we're going to do, and

767
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Speaker 1: more often than not we try to do group events.

768
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Speaker 1: We did we all got together when we were in

769
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Speaker 1: we all got together down in barber we all got

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Speaker 1: together in Detroit, et cetera. So for this one, I

771
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Speaker 1: bought the Brewers ticket, thinking, okay, maybe the other guys

772
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Speaker 1: will come along whatever else. But I bought the ticket

773
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Speaker 1: back when the schedule first came out, and when I

774
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Speaker 1: go to if I end up going to a game

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Speaker 1: by myself, which I have done in Milwaukee before, was.

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Speaker 2: That a smart financial decision then purchasing your White Sox, Yes,

777
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: ticket on opening drop of the schedule. Yes, And I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you why, because that's exactly the point here. When

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Speaker 2: I bought the ticket, I bought a ticket. And then

780
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Speaker 2: when I get to the park, I always walk in

781
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Speaker 2: and look and find the most remote seat that has

782
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Speaker 2: no one near it, in the top row of the stadium. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I tried to do this at a White Sox game

784
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Speaker 1: once and the upper deck wasn't even open. I did

785
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Speaker 1: it in Oakland when I was seeing the Athletics play,

786
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Speaker 1: and they had banners in the outfield that said welcome

787
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: to Oakland, Home of the Athletics. Because they've put banners,

788
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: there were so many seats. I got to the Brewers game,

789
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: walked in and I'm like, okay, I'm going to scout

790
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Speaker 1: it out. And I walked into the upper level and

791
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: looked up and Eddie, literally there were two open seats

792
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: that I could see and they were behind home plate

793
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: and the upper deck, the latter as you walked up

794
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Speaker 1: the walkway all the way up, and there were two

795
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Speaker 1: seats against the back wall of the top level of

796
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Speaker 1: the stadium. Yeah, and so that's where I sat, and

797
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Speaker 1: I had one seat next to me, and I think

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Speaker 1: that was the only seat open that I could see

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Speaker 1: at least. And the point is this, I've been to

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Speaker 1: Brewers games several times when we've gone up there. I've

801
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: been to Reds games, I've been to you know, I've

802
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: been to about every major league park at some point,

803
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Speaker 1: and the bottom line is it was packed.

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00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: It was packed.

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Speaker 1: And the bottom line is this, and that is that

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Speaker 1: if you are winning, people show up. I mean that's

807
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: the bottom line. If you're winning, people show up. And

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Speaker 1: it was a nearly sold out crowd, and as a

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00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: whe and Bob you it was also Bob Yer weekend.

810
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: That had a lot to do with it. But they

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Speaker 1: have the best record in baseball, and I would guess

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00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: that forty percent of that crowd are probably Diehart Brewers

813
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Speaker 1: fans and the other sixty percent of people that live

814
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Speaker 1: in mitlwalking like, hey, they're good, let's go to the

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Speaker 1: Brewers game and the Colts. The NFL is going to

816
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Speaker 1: sell out regardless, but we saw it with the Pacers.

817
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: But you know, the Pacers became this this I mean,

818
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Speaker 1: I go to every game and there was no doubt

819
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Speaker 1: the attendance wise, like during the finals, during the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: the Colts games, the Colts games need.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of juice in the building.

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Speaker 1: They just do they The Colts need to start winning,

823
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Speaker 1: because yes they sell out games, and yes it's packed,

824
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Speaker 1: but there's just like a FLA environment and they're more

825
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: often than not. And I think it's because people are

826
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Speaker 1: just waiting for that vibe, waiting to ride that high

827
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Speaker 1: like we saw in the late spring and early summer

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Speaker 1: with the Pacers. And I hope that for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: But it was fun and it was awesome. And then

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Speaker 1: something else happened too with Major League Baseball that I

831
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Speaker 1: did notice, and it made us made me think of

832
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: our beer bet. We got to catch up on that.

833
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: We got to tell you what's big happening tonight for

834
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Speaker 1: this show. Yes, six hours from now, I'll tell you

835
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Speaker 1: about that. And Ed Carpenter bottom of the Hour here

836
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Speaker 1: on a Monday edition Quarying Company on the Fan, Colt's

837
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Speaker 1: gonna win over the Cincinnati Bengals over the weekend. Are

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Speaker 1: you a Bingles or Bengals guy, Eddie Bingals?

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Speaker 2: Say that again? Bingals? Which way? Which way do I

840
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Speaker 2: say it?

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Speaker 1: You tell me how I'm saying it, incorrectly or correctly,

842
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: because I'm just gonna say it organically without you know,

843
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: thinking about it. So let me say it all over again,

844
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Speaker 1: and then you tell me how I'm saying it. Colt's

845
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna win over the weekend versus the Cincinnati Bengals. Did

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Speaker 1: I say it correctly or incorrectly?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, give me one second here, Hey, you ready,

848
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Speaker 2: that's how you said.

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Speaker 1: It versus the Cincinnati Bengals. I hit my voice, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's like torture for me. You know that, right,

851
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: Sad Sady Bengal, Bengal Bengal. You know my You know,

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Speaker 1: if you were to put my voice into like to

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Speaker 1: a picture in the way that I I, it would

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00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: look like that.

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00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's pretty.

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Speaker 1: This is the photo that I just showed Eddie. The

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Speaker 1: joy of being on the blood thinners. I hit my

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00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: foot over the weekend against I was in the paddock area,

859
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: in the garage area, and you know there's all kinds

860
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: of stuff, you know, tire racks and everything else, flying

861
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: all over the place. And I was running around a

862
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: corner and hit my foot and then you combine that

863
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: with the blood thinners, and it's so basically what I'm

864
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: geting at as my toes right now look like the

865
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon. They're like five different shades of purple and

866
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: blue and yellow and gold. But at any rate, I digress.

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Speaker 1: So the Colts get to win. I just don't know

868
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: how much you can read into getting a win in

869
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: week number three, which used to be the big week,

870
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: but in the final preseing game.

871
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: But here is my question.

872
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna spell it this simply, And yes, yes,

873
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: it's probably mostly talk show fodder perhaps, But isn't that

874
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: any job Jake the fodder things the talk show it is.

875
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: For example, I ran into someone this weekend that said,

876
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: can you imagine and this is strictly hypothetical, there's no

877
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: way this is actually gonna happen. They said, can you

878
00:47:52,120 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: imagine if the Colts released their depth chart in Anthony

879
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Richardson is listed as.

880
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 2: Third string? Oh boy, now that's not going to happen.

881
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: Imagine the trust between them and the agent.

882
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: Not gonna happen, that's right, not going to happen. But

883
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: the having said that, Riley, that are playing, well, let

884
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: me just throw this out and then I want people

885
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: to tell me if they think it is the dumbest,

886
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: most like outlandish hot take thing on the planet. Okay,

887
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not playing and having a

888
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: good game against a defense that is made up primarily

889
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: of players that may not even make a roster tells

890
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: you anything. But if you were to look at an

891
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: everyday NFL starter or an upper echelon player, you know

892
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: they're they're the quarterback rating. I mean, you can only

893
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: do so much, right and when you look at what

894
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard was able to do with the precision that

895
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: he was able to show, and I think just kind

896
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: of a command in general? Is that more so?

897
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 5: You know?

898
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean what more so would Joe Burrow have been

899
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: able to do in that situation or Josh Allen or who?

900
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: I mean?

901
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have carved it up. But you can

902
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: only carve it up so much. Right, here is my

903
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: long winded point.

904
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: Who's Joe Burrow played for?

905
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 5: I was?

906
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: If I said it correctly once, then you can play

907
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: it again, right, I don't. I didn't save it. I

908
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: just clipped in that that'd be the Cincinnati Bengals. I

909
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: was just letting you say it again, thank.

910
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: You practice right, not the Bengals, that's Mannic Monday for

911
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: the ben Gals or the Bengals. Simply the Bengals. But

912
00:49:53,800 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: here's my point. Is there any ants that Riley Leonard

913
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: showed enough that the Colts, if they've already made the

914
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: decision that Daniel Jones is their starter this year, did

915
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard show enough that the Colts are now comfortable

916
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: completely cutting bait and trading Anthony Richardson before the trade

917
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: deadline this year and having Riley Leonard as their backup?

918
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: What's an acceptable return for Richardson? Jake from where you're like, yeah, yeah,

919
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: I can do that. And what's a what would be

920
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: something you would scoff at second and a fifth? You

921
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: think a team will give up a second in a

922
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: fifth for Richardson? It's a very good question.

923
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: The problem is they haven't afforded themselves enough time to

924
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: show the rest of the league what he can consistently

925
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: be was But.

926
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: Is that them or is that Anthony?

927
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: Both fair well, I mean them to an extent now

928
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: because they've made the decision they're not going to go

929
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: with him.

930
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: Well, Anthony, part of it is just not being available.

931
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: But this is well, he's available now and they've decided

932
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: to go against it, is what I'm getting at the

933
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: very true. My point is this, they have made the decision,

934
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: and they have outwardly said this is Daniel Jones season,

935
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: and that the only reason Richardson is going to be

936
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: on the field is if Daniel Jones is unavailable. Now,

937
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: we all know that if they start out zero to

938
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: five that probably changes, but as of right now, that

939
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: is the mindset. When you have outwardly said that you

940
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: have made the decision, you've turned the page on Anthony Richardson.

941
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: They've turned the page on Anthony Richardson. I think that

942
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: when the quarterbacks coach of the Indianapolis Colts comes out

943
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: and says I've done about everything I can do, and

944
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but that's basically what he said, they've turned

945
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: the page on Anthony Richardson. I'm not saying they're right wrong.

946
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm not stepping on either side of that line in

947
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: the sand. But the Colts, at least in terms of

948
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: their action have stated that they are turning the page

949
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: on Anthony Richardson. Yeah, I know, I get it. Chris

950
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: Ballard has said, look, you know, we still have him

951
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: for another year. We have not thrown in the towel.

952
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. But have you ever

953
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: been in a relationship with somebody where like, you know,

954
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: somebody's like, so, what why did you guys break up?

955
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: And you're like, you know, we just kind of figured out.

956
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: We were just kind of going through the motions and

957
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: like it went on like six months longer than it

958
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: should have. We just kind of were going through. Like

959
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: that's where they are with this. Now they can say

960
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: all they want. Chris Ballard can say all he wants.

961
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is a guy that we still have not

962
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: completely given up on. He's going to be on our roster.

963
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: We have him for another year. He say that all

964
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: he wants. But in what should be the biggest year

965
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: in the development of Anthony Richardson, or the finality of

966
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: the development of Anthony Richardson, or the answer of the

967
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: questions of Anthony Richardson, and they win, he is available

968
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: opted to go against him and go with a guy

969
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: that has been twenty games below five hundred as a

970
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: starter in the NFL and looks like essentially Anthony Richardson

971
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: just in terms of consistency. And maybe Daniel Jones is

972
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. Great, Maybe Daniel Jones gets to maybe he's

973
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Geno Smith.

974
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: Great.

975
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: You got him for one year on a contract and

976
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: then after that you got to resign him.

977
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: Would that be the worst possible outcome for the Colts

978
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: is that Daniel Jones flourishes and then they make the

979
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: playoffs and then they're kind of like in this limbo

980
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: of you know what, if he flourishes, they make the

981
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: playoffs and he signs elsewhere exactly. That's what I'm saying.

982
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: Either way, though, the worst I mean is Daniel Jones

983
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: is Daniel Does anybody who really think Daniel Jones is

984
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: the long term quarterback? I don't care if he goes

985
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: Let's say they go twelve and five, it's Daniel Jones

986
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: the long term quarterback. If they go twelve and five

987
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: this year with Daniel Jones, you've got prime to Forest Buckner, prime,

988
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor prime, Michael Pittman. If they go twelve and

989
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: five of them this year, do you really feel like

990
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: things head upward or is that already sealing Daniel Jones.

991
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

992
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not here to again begrudge Daniel Jones either.

993
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is this, they clearly have turned the

994
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: page on Anthony Richard. Whether they whether they want to

995
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: or not, their actions have said that's what they've done.

996
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: So now, if you know that you're starting over from

997
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: scratch a year from now, and they are starting over

998
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: at quarterback from scratch a year from now, maybe they're

999
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: from scratch with Anthony Richardson, I don't know. But I

1000
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: don't know how you come back to that now. But

1001
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: if Riley Leonard is on the roster as a regular,

1002
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: full time member of the roster, and yes, I know

1003
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: he's their emergency quarterback, but if he is on the roster,

1004
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: does that is that because they are willing to Because

1005
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: what's the worst case scenario If Daniel Jones is your

1006
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: starter and Riley Leonard is your backup, and you go

1007
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: in and Daniel Jones gets hurt or he plays terrible, whatever,

1008
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: and you hand the keys over to Riley Leonard. Is

1009
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard the second coming of Curtis Painter, Or is

1010
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: he the second coming of Chris Chandler where it's like,

1011
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: oh Wow, we didn't think he'd be this good this early,

1012
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: but here he is. Right probably in between, but either way,

1013
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: if you're getting to that point anyway, the year's of wash.

1014
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: I think the Colts would tell you that if they

1015
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: get to the point this year where Anthony Richardson suddenly

1016
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: becomes your starter, the year's of wash, because they have

1017
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: told us this is. If Daniel Jones is not starting,

1018
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: it's because one of two things happened. The guy that

1019
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: you elected to be your long term starter is hurt

1020
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: or the guy you elected to be your long term

1021
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: starter sucks. It's one of those two things.

1022
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: And so.

1023
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: The rest of the league sees it as you've turned

1024
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: the page on Anthony Richardson, and that's the thing that

1025
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: kind of hurts, is that that hurts his market value.

1026
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: Then I hey, Jake, I'm not saying stardom, but Rock

1027
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: Purty was the last pick. Why can't Leonard come out

1028
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: of nowhere too? I think that Niners seem had about

1029
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: a roster, but yes.

1030
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: I kind of think that's where the shift in the

1031
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: mindset of what they want out of the quarterback position

1032
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: has been May Jake, like Nate Atkins formerly with The

1033
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: Indie Star, is going to be announcing his He was

1034
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: on the Morning Show and in the coming days they

1035
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: assume we'll figure out where Nate is going. But one

1036
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: of his last pieces was about the shift in what

1037
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: Shane steike In and Chris Poward are wanting from the

1038
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: Colts quarterback because when they drafted Anthony, they wanted the

1039
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: quarterback to elevate everyone else on the roster, and now

1040
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: it feels like they're wanting everyone else around the quarterback

1041
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: to elevate the quarterback. By what San Francisco has done.

1042
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: When Brock Purtty was on that rookie deal, he had

1043
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 2: Deevo's Brandon now you, George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey, and all

1044
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: he had to do was be the point guard and

1045
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: distributed it to all these guys, and all those guys

1046
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: made plays, right, You're right? Like, is that what they

1047
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: feel they can do with? But Michael Pittman Junior, Josh Down,

1048
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: I think they have a good They do have a

1049
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: good I mean give credit to Chris Ballard in this regard.

1050
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: They have a good roster. Right, how good is the question? Now?

1051
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: I still think there are questions along the defensive line

1052
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: and being able to get.

1053
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Here's the problem Chris Ballard has. Okay,

1054
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard opened Ballard's Steakhouse. Ballard Steakhouse was opened nice.

1055
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard was put in charge of opening a restaurant.

1056
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: And it's Ballard's Steakhouse. And you ask somebody, you go, hey,

1057
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: have you been to Ballard Steakhouse? Well, they haven't opened yet,

1058
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: but I went in there for part of their their

1059
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: soft launch and they I gotta tell you, Ballard Steakhouse,

1060
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: they have a guy. They've got one of the best,

1061
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: literally one of the best salad preparers in the city.

1062
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: They got a guy that may I mean, if you're

1063
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: talking about your introductory salad, or for that matter, if

1064
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: you get a Caesar salad. This guy chops let us

1065
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: and finds greens like nobody's business, great great salads. And

1066
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: in addition to that, they hire he went out actually

1067
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: and found from another restaurant one of the best cream

1068
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: brulet preparers that you're going to find the dessert, the

1069
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: cream berlet to die for. I can tell you right now,

1070
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be phenomenal at Ballard steakhouse really good.

1071
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: And they they've got a pretty good baker that makes

1072
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: good rolls. The guy comes highly praised, and he's in

1073
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: his prime. He's been making rolls for a while now.

1074
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Good roles not as good as the handmade, fresh world

1075
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: breadsticks at Chicago's Pizza where Tonight at seven o'clock we're

1076
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1077
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1078
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1079
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: got to tell you the one. They they found a

1080
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: guy that is one of the best at wine selection.

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00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: They've got an unbelievable wine room at Ballard Steakhouse, really good,

1082
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: really good. They found a gal that is one of

1083
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: the best and very creative in the way that she

1084
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: makes baked potatoes. The side, the baked potato side at

1085
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Ballard's Steakhouse is phenomenal.

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: That sounds awesome.

1087
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: So you've got so you're telling me they've got really

1088
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: good roles, they've got really good salads, they've got a

1089
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: great wine list, and they've got cream berle a. Yes,

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, what about the asparagus mushroom thank

1091
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: you for asking. They actually just found They went out

1092
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: and it was amazing. But the last two years they

1093
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: found the best mushroom grower and the best asparagus preparer

1094
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, and believe that other people. As matter

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01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: of fact, Ballard even said when they when he was

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01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: going out and looking for a mushroom prepare, he laughed

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01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: and said, I just got the best mushroom prepare available

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01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: on the restaurant market. And they've got it great, and

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: it looks and the mushroom's now really coming. This year's

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01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: Krapa mushrooms looks really good. And the asparagus excellent. Okay,

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01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: that's all awesome. How about the steaks, Well, that's the

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01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: thing he's still looking for, actually a steak chef at

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01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: Ballard Steakhouse. Everything else is great, but in terms, he's

1104
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: still looking Ballard Steakhouse. Now they're in month nine of preparation.

1105
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: But it's and I think as soon as they get

1106
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: somebody that knows how to make steaks, they're they're gonna

1107
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great steakhouse. Everything else is good. Steaks,

1108
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: we don't know yet. We are in year nine of

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01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: the Chris Ballard regime. And we are sitting here in

1110
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: late August having a discussion on a radio show in Indianapolis,

1111
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Indiana as to what the future is at the quarterback

1112
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: position in year nine.

1113
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: And I get it. I get it. Andrew Luck retired.

1114
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: I get it.

1115
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: Since retiring, Andrew Luck has gone out, had another child, moved,

1116
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: traveled the world, seen architecture, ridden his bike, gone to

1117
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: soccer matches, got bored, gone back to school, finished a

1118
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: secondary degree, and taken another job. At the time or

1119
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: that Chris Ballard had Andrew Luck retire on him. You know,

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01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: look at the quarterbacks right now that are dominating in

1121
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: the in the NFL. How many of them were starting

1122
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: for that respective franchise at the time that Andrew Luck

1123
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: walked into that press conference and announced his retirement. The

1124
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: NFL stands for not for long, baby, and that includes

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: not just that you are successful, not for long, but

1126
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: also you can only hang on the I'll use excuse

1127
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: or explanations for so long, you.

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01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reality. But we are in year

1130
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: nine and we are still sitting here wondering about the

1131
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: quarterback position. And I trust me, I was working qualifications

1132
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: for the IndyCar race when that Colts Bengals game was

1133
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: going on and my phone is blowing up with people

1134
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: like Ryla Leonard man handing the keys. Here you go,

1135
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: And part of that's two we played it notre dame.

1136
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: I get it.

1137
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: If Ryley Leonard had come in and done the exact

1138
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: same thing and had just led Arizona State to the

1139
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, would people be as equally high on him.

1140
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean that is admittedly, obviously to an extent a

1141
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: local team or certainly one of a very high number

1142
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: of local fans, and that plays into it as well.

1143
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: And I'm being very almost facetious and outlandishly you know,

1144
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: speculative when I say, does Riley Leonard, based on one

1145
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: preseason game against the Cincinnati Bengals, does this move things

1146
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: up now where Riley Leonard is your backup and Jason

1147
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: Bean now becomes the guy that like there's room for him,

1148
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: you know in the practice squad slash move up on

1149
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: emergency basis level guy. I I just didn't think and

1150
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: it's outlandish to say all of this, but my point

1151
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: is this is it. Chris Ballard had to make the

1152
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: decision on which franchise quarterback to select to build his

1153
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: team around. And he came out and said, and yeah,

1154
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: maybe you can say it was a dry year, but

1155
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: he came out after the fact and said, if this guy,

1156
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: if we had the number one pick, Anthony Richardson was

1157
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: our guy. And it's difficult to say that, and then

1158
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: publicly basically turned the page. Within the first contract, you

1159
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: are admitting your error. And if that's the case, and

1160
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: you go back to square one, is Daniel Jones your

1161
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: future or is Daniel Jones a seat warmer? And that's

1162
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: the other thing you got to ask yourself. Is he

1163
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: the future or is he the seat warmer? That's what

1164
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: you got to ask yourself. And that's where you are.

1165
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: And when you are heading into now week number nine

1166
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: and you start out with Miami and you start out

1167
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: with look at it this way, Eddie. Can you give

1168
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: me the exact date that Andrew Luck retired? Do you

1169
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: remember the exact date?

1170
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: It was uh six years ago on Saturday? So what

1171
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: was Saturday the twenty third? Is so it'd have been.

1172
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen, is that right? Yes, I'm gonna list for

1173
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: you the first five games for the Colts, and I

1174
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: want you to tell me whether or not these quarterbacks

1175
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: were on that roster six years ago?

1176
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: He was ready yesterday, twenty fourth of nineteen.

1177
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna list for you the first five opponents

1178
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: for the Colts, and I want you to tell me

1179
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: whether or not their quarterback was on that respective roster

1180
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: six years ago.

1181
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: Tua in Miami.

1182
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: No bo Nix in Denver obviously, No cam Ward and

1183
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee another obvious.

1184
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: No.

1185
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: I guess Matthew Stafford is starting right for the Rams,

1186
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 1: isn't he hurt? Stafford wasn't with the Rams at that point.

1187
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: He was still with Detroit.

1188
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: Correct? Okay, Gino Smith with the Raiders. I know? Kyler

1189
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: Murray in Arizona? No, just did Herbert with the Chargers?

1190
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 5: No?

1191
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: Wait, Kyler, yes, Kyler? Maybe look up Kyler Murray. Okay,

1192
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: he was drafted in twenty nineteen. So yes, Okay, so

1193
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. I'm embarrassed to ask this. I'm embarrassed. Oh,

1194
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh obviously, No. Michael Pennocks in Atlanta obviously,

1195
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: No Patrick Mahomes. Yes, Okay, maybe look that up. Was

1196
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: he the starter? Was he playing yet? I think that

1197
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: might have been his first year starting?

1198
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 5: Okay? C J.

1199
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: Stroud, Yeah, Mahomes, that was the second year starting C. J. Stroud.

1200
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: No, Okay, Trevor Lawrence, No, Sam Darnold in Seattle, No

1201
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: Rock Purty.

1202
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 7: No.

1203
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: There are two quarterbacks too that the Colts will face

1204
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: this year that were with their respective team when Andrew

1205
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: Luck retired. Every team they face this year has had

1206
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: to rediscover the quarterback position since that day, meaning that

1207
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: reasoning for delay is officially done.

1208
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: You can't go there. You can't go there. And I'm

1209
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: not saying people do as much, but you do. Hear it.

1210
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: Well, you know, keep in mind with Chris Ballad and

1211
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: Inteluct retired on him. I get it, and that and listen,

1212
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: Luck would probably still be playing. Admittedly he would still

1213
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: be playing if he was healthy and whatever else.

1214
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: I get it.

1215
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 1: You didn't plan for that. But I'm telling you, I've

1216
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: talked to sports executives before that have said to me, look,

1217
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: I got a lot of credit for this move or

1218
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: that move. And what people didn't realize is it wasn't

1219
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: even my plan A. My Plan A was taken away

1220
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: at the last minute, and I had to immediately go

1221
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: with Plan B and just go about it as if

1222
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: it was my plan a because it wasn't raining when

1223
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: Noah built the Ark, and you have to always have

1224
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: sight moving forward. And we are in year nine and

1225
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: we're still sitting here wondering about the quarterback position. And

1226
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: I've heard Jay and b say it when he said

1227
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: that when it comes to Richardson, it was an organizational failure,

1228
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, was it an organizational failure? I

1229
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: think John's right because they the fact that we're having

1230
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: this discussion and the fact that the fact that it's

1231
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: not an outlandish discussion. And I don't mean the discussion

1232
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: of like is Riley Leonard the future of the cult?

1233
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't mean that, but the fact that like it's

1234
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: even a topic that would be casually mentioned and not

1235
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: immediately one hundred percent dismissed as ludicrous. I mean five

1236
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: percent reality to it. But the fact that like it's

1237
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: even worth entertaining in year nine is a problem.

1238
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: Now.

1239
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: Of those guys I mentioned, literally, to be fair to

1240
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: the Coults, those guys I mentioned, like three of them

1241
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks and the rest of them are just stop gaps.

1242
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: It's just the way it goes, literally, just the way

1243
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: like the NFL man not for long ed Carpenter, his

1244
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: team got a big win yesterday. He joins us next.

1245
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: And if you were going to have some Java House

1246
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: coffee with splendor in it, what better thing to accentuate

1247
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: it than donuts, which is exactly what Christian Rasmussen provided,

1248
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 1: And getting his first win of his career in the

1249
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: ant T Indiecar Series. As you just heard Nick Yeomen

1250
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 1: and Mark James explain on IndyCar Radio and ECR, ed

1251
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: Carpenter Racing is a winner for the first time since

1252
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: Renas VK won in Indianapolis. Ed Carpenter joining us now

1253
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: on the program to celebrate the win. ED, congratulations yesterday

1254
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: on what was just a great team win. I thought,

1255
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: because Rasmussen and we'll get to this in a seconds,

1256
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: the heck of a driver. But that was also some

1257
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: pretty darn good strategy by you guys down the stretch.

1258
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a I was really happy with the

1259
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 7: whole weekend. I thought it was a great team effort,

1260
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 7: really good execution, you know, across the whole squad, both cars.

1261
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 7: You know, having two in the top four in this sport,

1262
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 7: it's really hard to do.

1263
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1264
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 7: It's a really really strong group effort all weekend. You

1265
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 7: know these, and I need to add this, you can

1266
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 7: win too. I know you're a very loyal Java House

1267
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 7: consumer now, but uh by one get one at twelve

1268
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 7: packs after that victory, so strike while that deals There

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Speaker 7: code e c R on java house dot com buy one.

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Speaker 1: Get one, so and I will admit to you that

1271
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: I took advantage of that. There was a code yesterday

1272
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: Milwaukee for Java House that I used for discount, and

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Speaker 1: then today e c R the code java house dot com.

1274
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, the peel and pores pods are awesome,

1275
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: and I'm not They're awesome, And so I went ahead

1276
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: and bought some of the Colombian, which is what I

1277
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: enjoy the and I'm not.

1278
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: I've always said.

1279
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: The funny thing is like I was never a coffee drinker,

1280
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: and then I started drinking that and I thought, well,

1281
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: this is probably better than other stuff that you can

1282
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: drink to wake you up in the morning. So I

1283
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: do enjoy it, and I certainly appreciate that by all

1284
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: means ed, let's get to this. You know, for those

1285
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: that are unfamiliar, Christian Rasmussen is a driver that he

1286
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: is a fearless driving style. I don't think there's any

1287
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: question about that. And you and I actually had just

1288
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: talked a couple of weeks ago when I said to you,

1289
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it really feels like he's kind

1290
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: of round in the corner here and things are starting

1291
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: to come to him a little bit. What was it

1292
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: that you saw in him as a young driver and

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Speaker 1: what have you had to do, if anything, to polish him?

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01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: So to speak to this point, Well.

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Speaker 7: I'll start with the beginning. You know, I've always you know,

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01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 7: we have a history as a team of bringing guys

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01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 7: from what was Indie Lights and now Indie Next. So

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01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 7: you know, I consume and watch a lot of those

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 7: races and track the young guys that are that are

1300
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 7: coming or potentially coming to Indy Car. And you know,

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01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 7: Christian had a He was with Andretti his first year

1302
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 7: and next and then hm D his second year. You know,

1303
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 7: he was quick year one. You know, had had some

1304
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 7: rocky times, didn't have the best championship his rookie year there,

1305
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 7: and came back year two and really cleaned up his

1306
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 7: you know, shortcomings and mistakes and within a fairly tight

1307
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 7: championship and as it got tight down the stretch, you know,

1308
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 7: he really took the ball by the horns and closed

1309
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 7: it out emphatically. And you know, that showed a lot

1310
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 7: of a lot of good work ethic to me and

1311
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 7: also just poised to deal with that pressure of clenching

1312
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 7: is his second year and really what was for him

1313
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 7: in his situation, It was a must win championship for

1314
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 7: him in most most likely for him to be able

1315
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 7: to carry on his career. So that stood out a

1316
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 7: lot to me just how we managed that pressure. Then

1317
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 7: we we did a test at Barber following that season

1318
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 7: and we took Christian in car and Oliver asked you

1319
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 7: and another and Oliver had more indo our experience with

1320
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,839
Speaker 7: a brief stint with McLaren and did some racing subbing

1321
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 7: in for a few other teams. We took those guys

1322
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 7: the Barber had to head and you know, another pressure situation.

1323
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 7: You know, we wanted to create some competition and pressure

1324
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 7: and Christian really did a nice job and from our

1325
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 7: estimation of that day, you know, kind of led the day.

1326
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 7: You know, Oliver had an advantage of more experience, but

1327
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 7: Christian kind of set the bar all day long and

1328
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 7: Oliver was catching up and reacting to him. So that

1329
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 7: made a strong first impression in our cars, and then

1330
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 7: you know, much like what we saw from his couple

1331
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 7: of years sent and in the next you know, we're

1332
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 7: seeing that now from you know, just kind of and improvement,

1333
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 7: great work ethic, great personality, fits with our culture really well.

1334
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 7: So he's just getting better and better. And you know,

1335
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 7: he's definitely not afraid to attack, and you've got to

1336
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 7: be aggressive in this sport to compete at the level

1337
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 7: that it is right now. So you know, we're happy

1338
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:17,919
Speaker 7: with his development.

1339
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 6: You know.

1340
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: One of the things, Ed, that's interesting to me, Ed

1341
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: Carpenter's our guest. He of course with ECR and Christian

1342
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: Rasmus and their driver getting his win yesterday. He has

1343
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: been so good, in particular on the short ovals. And

1344
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: yet if you look at the background of you know,

1345
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: growing up, I'm assuming that this is the case that

1346
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: when you're karting and you're coming up through like Danish

1347
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: Formula Ford and then I know that he got into

1348
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: the latter series which provides oval opportunity, but I would

1349
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: assume that his early racing background ED did not include

1350
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: a lot of short ovals. Is that form of racing

1351
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: something that and I know that this sounds really elementary

1352
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: that just some guys get and some guys don't. And

1353
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: if that's the case, what was it about his driving

1354
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: style that matches with that?

1355
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're right. I don't think he did

1356
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 7: any oval racing until he got into the the Road

1357
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 7: Indy program. But you know, you're right, some guys, I

1358
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 7: think just get more comfortable quickly and and their style,

1359
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 7: you know, crosses over really well. You know, he's he's

1360
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 7: a brave driver and isn't afraid to drive the car,

1361
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 7: you know, the way it's required at times at places

1362
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 7: like Milwaukee and other short ovals. But without a doubt,

1363
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 7: short ovals are his biggest strength right now. You know,

1364
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 7: he easily could have could have won Gateway. You know,

1365
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 7: we had an issue there that sent him to the

1366
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 7: back with a penalty and he drove through to finish third.

1367
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 7: But without that penalty he would have been fighting for

1368
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 7: a win there. So you know, it wasn't a total

1369
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 7: surprise for us as may maybe it seemed on the outside,

1370
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 7: because we know that that that type of race is

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 7: his strength. You know, we've I got out of the

1372
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 7: car a year ago before Milwaukee and put him in

1373
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 7: because I felt like he was going to do a

1374
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 7: better job than me quite frankly, you know. So this

1375
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 7: was his first time going back to a noble in

1376
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 7: an Indy car for a second time, so he was

1377
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 7: really poised for a good weekend and you know, credit

1378
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 7: to him for executing at the end when it mattered.

1379
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, after the race in Portland there was a

1380
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: pretty highly publicized on track battle between Connor Daily and

1381
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: Christian that knocked Connor Daly out of the race. Connor

1382
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: did have a pretty good line when he said, look

1383
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: he hit everything, but the lottery out there after that

1384
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: took place, and I think you mentioned this to me yesterday,

1385
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: Ed and then kind of the flurry after the race

1386
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: with all of that and the criticism or the conversation

1387
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: about Rasmussen's driving style, did you have to say anything

1388
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: to him?

1389
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 7: No, you know, I didn't. You know, there's there's been

1390
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 7: a lot of talk, you know, obviously, you know there's

1391
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 7: a history with myself and Connor, which you know, unfortunately

1392
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 7: for him, he views much differently than I do. I

1393
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 7: like Connor, have a lot of respect for Connor. He

1394
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 7: drove for us for a long time. You know, he

1395
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 7: made it quite a big deal, which you know, I

1396
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 7: don't like to see anyone get into an accident. It

1397
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 7: was a hard racing incident. Two guys were driving pretty

1398
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 7: angry in that moment in Portland, and Connor came out

1399
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 7: on the short end. But you know, he made some

1400
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 7: comments on his podcast that we're pretty bold in my opinion,

1401
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 7: and going so far as to say I would be

1402
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 7: happy if he was in a coffin. You know, I

1403
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 7: don't like seeing stuff like that. That's not true. He

1404
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 7: knows deep down that that's not true. He's just trying

1405
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 7: to trying to make for an interesting podcast. But to

1406
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 7: your point, no, I didn't ask Christian to do anything differently.

1407
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 7: He's you know, we pay him to drive a race

1408
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 7: car and and to go out and be fast and

1409
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 7: be successful. And that's one of the things we love

1410
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 7: about him, as you know, quite frankly, he doesn't take

1411
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 7: crap from anybody, and you know, he wants to be

1412
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 7: successful and win races. And we're not out there to

1413
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 7: make friends all the time. We're out there to get results.

1414
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 7: And you know that's that's the way he drives and

1415
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 7: we're happy with that.

1416
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: Lastly, ed for you, you know, it looks as though

1417
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: and you tell me. And I don't know before me,

1418
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying this kind of off the cuff, but I'm

1419
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: under the understanding or assumption that both Alexander Rossi and

1420
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: Christian Rasmus Center locked in for you for next year.

1421
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement they're both under contract? Yes, okay?

1422
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: And so is there a good feeling of not every

1423
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: team has this of like kind of that stability of

1424
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: knowing like, Okay, we have a foundation here that we

1425
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: can build upon, assuming that you are planning on having

1426
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: both of those guys back under the contract. And in

1427
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: addition to that, how much do you keep an eye

1428
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: on the silly season quote unquote of movement or potential

1429
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:50,799
Speaker 1: movement elsewhere?

1430
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 7: I mean, I've definitely haven't had my finger on the

1431
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 7: pulse of Silly season like I have in other years

1432
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 7: when when we know we have a whole to fill,

1433
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 7: you know. With with that being said, you're always paying

1434
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 7: attention and it's constantly talked about it the racetracks, so

1435
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 7: it's hard to not know what's going on behind the scenes.

1436
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 7: But no, really happy with the pairing we have. You know,

1437
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 7: I think that they get along very well. You know,

1438
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 7: if you haven't seen the clip of Alex greeting Christian

1439
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 7: and Victory Lane. You should find it. He was the

1440
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 7: first person there beat everyone else on the team there.

1441
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 7: They've got a great relationship. They're very complimentary of each other,

1442
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 7: you know, in the car and out of the car.

1443
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 7: Their strengths and weaknesses compliment each other well, you know.

1444
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 7: So I think we've got a great thing going with

1445
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 7: the two of them, and don't see any reason to

1446
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 7: to be considering doing anything different.

1447
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: So, by the way, I'm assuming that in the buy one,

1448
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: get one, you're going with the Do you go with

1449
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: the hydration or are you simply going with the Wrangler energy.

1450
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 7: I don't do a whole lot of the Wrangler as

1451
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 7: much as some of my teammates here, but yeah, I

1452
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 7: drink I drink Colombian. We buy a lot of the

1453
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 7: liquid Science in my household, both my boys or athletes crews.

1454
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 7: My youngest especially likes like that, so that's constantly in

1455
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 7: the rotation. So yeah, I'm with you on Colombian. Also

1456
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 7: get black tea. My wife drinks a lot of green tea. Yeah,

1457
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 7: So we also appreciate when when the race team does

1458
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 7: well and the discounts are available.

1459
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: The white Peach green Tea is the way to go.

1460
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: The white Peach green tea is like, that's also very solid.

1461
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: Buy one, get one, Eddie Garrison, I might buy you something.

1462
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: How's that sounds good? I would love some of that

1463
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 1: peacht I'm telling you, man, it's awesome kind of stuff.

1464
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: By would get one.

1465
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: At Java House dot com on the peel and poor pods.

1466
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 1: You mix them with water instantly with anounces and you

1467
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: got a beverage right there. And it is code E

1468
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: c R to get that buy one, get one special

1469
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: and appreciate it as always.

1470
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: Man, congratulations on the wind.

1471
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 7: Thank you guys. Talk to you too, all right.

1472
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,879
Speaker 1: Ed Carpenter joining us on the program again. Christian Rasmussen

1473
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: driver yesterday, Mike Chap I'll going to join us about

1474
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: seventeen minutes from now, and Chap can let me know

1475
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: how crazy I am on the Riley Leonard discussion that

1476
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: we had. But there was something I mentioned this earlier.

1477
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to Eddie our beer bet and

1478
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: something I noticed over the weekend, not just in terms

1479
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: of the crowd in Milwaukee and what happens when you

1480
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: have a winning team, but kind of a transition in

1481
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball if you will that I noticed this

1482
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: weekend and I want your thoughts on it, and we'll

1483
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: do it next. The Little Days Didn't Confused?

1484
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: Here?

1485
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 5: Right?

1486
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: Have ever seen the baviysot on now? You want an

1487
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: unpopular confession? You haven't either, No, I have. Oh, Days

1488
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: Didn't Confused is enjoyable because of just the and I

1489
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: was obviously a very little kid in the era in

1490
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: which it was to be taking place. But do I

1491
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: need to be dazed in order to understand Days?

1492
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of the point to an extent.

1493
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: But and I think J ANDV like said a lot

1494
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: because he plays a lot of clips from it. I'm

1495
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: not saying I disliked the movie, but it kind of

1496
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: really has no plot. It's just like two hours of like, okay,

1497
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: it's just more like a day in the life of

1498
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight or seventy seven or whatever year it is, like, okay,

1499
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: last day of school in the late seventies.

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01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 2: Al right, cool.

1501
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 1: So I went to the Brewers game. I mentioned that

1502
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: thrice now on the program, but on I guess it

1503
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: would have been Saturday night, and I did what I

1504
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: typically do when I go to a Major League baseball game,

1505
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: you get a scorecard, did not get a scorecard, but

1506
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: saw not one, but two people keeping them. And I

1507
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: love when I see people in the crowd keeping a

1508
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: scorecard and open disclaimer, I would have.

1509
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: No idea how to do that. I can teacher Jake.

1510
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: I think I'd probably stick with it. It's kind of

1511
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: like it's like keeping score and bowling. I don't know

1512
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: they got a big computer up there that does that.

1513
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: I and I think I probably have the attention span

1514
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: to be able to keep scoring a baseball game for

1515
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: like three innings and then I'm like, Okay, I'm good.

1516
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: But that's the whole point. Jakie keeps you engaged. I

1517
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 2: get it.

1518
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Here's the Jake Querry Major League baseball game. Unless I'm

1519
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: going to a game that like is a huge game

1520
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: or that I'm a diehard fan of the team. But

1521
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: if I'm just going and I've done this, I did

1522
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: this in Detroit, I've done it in Milwaukee, I've done

1523
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: it in Texas. When we are on the road or

1524
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: if I'm somewhere where there happens to be, it's like, oh, okay,

1525
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: I'll go to the game. And if I have no

1526
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: rooting interest in said game, here is the game plan.

1527
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: Scout out the worst seat in the place, which is

1528
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: fitting because I was there on Bob Buker weekend, so

1529
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: I guess it's only fitting that I would have been

1530
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: way up in the by my lonesome. But I go

1531
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: up in the very top. I love just being able

1532
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: to overwatch and watch over everything, and I kind of

1533
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: get a kick out of like the local advertising, because

1534
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know the market and just you

1535
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: know whatever. So I get a beer or a diet

1536
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: coke and a hot dog and sit up in the

1537
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: very top right and I'll watch four to four and

1538
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: a half innings, and then innings five through five and

1539
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: six probably. I walk around the concourses and just check

1540
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: out the stadium, you know, see different vantage points of

1541
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: it or different entertainment options things they have going on.

1542
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: And then I go to the gift shop, the souvenir

1543
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: store whatever. Usually it's called the home shop the home

1544
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: plate shop usually at most stadiums, and they have everything,

1545
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: but every franchise sells and.

1546
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: They are the best. They all have socks. I bought

1547
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: a pair of socks, Brewer socks, and then I have

1548
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 2: white Sox socks and red Sox Socks in the different

1549
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 2: games I've gone to. But what's interesting to me is

1550
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: hear them at the Brewers game and they are the

1551
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 2: best team in baseball by record at the time that

1552
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: I was there, and it was close to a sellout,

1553
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: I mean, there were not a lot of seats available.

1554
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: But as I was walking around, I walked past in

1555
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: the concourse area there was a playground. A playground, I

1556
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: mean like literally there's kids climbing all over. It's like

1557
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: little you know, instead of the penguins that the East

1558
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 2: have at Glendale, it's like three Bernie Brewers or whatever.

1559
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 2: And then you know others such like dinosaurs or whatever.

1560
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: Kids are playing on this playground, just like in you know,

1561
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: section one twenty eight.

1562
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: Whatever did he goes sliding it all Saturday? He did

1563
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: not during the time I was there, because the Bruis

1564
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a home run.

1565
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: They lost. When I left, they were down seven to one.

1566
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: Oh wow. But the.

1567
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: So I see the playground area, then you walk a

1568
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: little bit further and there's the outdoor beer garden that

1569
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: you can't even like see the game per se, but

1570
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: there's an outdoor beer garden. I walk a little bit

1571
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: further and there was like a photo selfie station area,

1572
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: and there were multiple gift shop areas or team store areas,

1573
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: and then you had like the different gourmet food areas

1574
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: literally that had like picnic tables and restaurants and other

1575
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: such things. And there were a couple of other like

1576
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: local sponsored play areas or entertainment areas, and I get

1577
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: that that's where we are now. Lucas Oil Stadium probably

1578
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: has to an extent the same type thing. So does

1579
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: Gambridge feel lousk to an extent. But that's when it

1580
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: just dawned on me that in Major League Baseball, I

1581
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: think it is there was a time when going to

1582
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 1: a baseball game at Major League Baseball, the epicenter of

1583
01:26:54,800 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: entertainment was the game, and you had the most the

1584
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: biggest source of entertainment or the biggest sidebar entertaining thing

1585
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: was to buy a mini helmet ice cream Sunday.

1586
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: That was it.

1587
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: And maybe they had one section where you could buy

1588
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: penance of different teams. But there is so much demand now,

1589
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 1: so much challenge, so much competition in the entertainment dollar

1590
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: that when you now are building these multi hundred million

1591
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: dollars slash billion dollar stadiums, with detractable roofs and everything else.

1592
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: That's I guess that was my epiphany in walking around

1593
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: that the consumer target is not even the baseball fan.

1594
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: It is, Yes, you want people to come and watch

1595
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: the baseball game, but now you need to provide entertainment

1596
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: above and beyond the game itself to attract the family

1597
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: interest and everything else because of the fact that I

1598
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: just don't know that the and this is true of

1599
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: any sport. I'm not knocking baseball here. The on field

1600
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: product is almost secondary to the core of your audience.

1601
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: And in the NFL it's eighty five percent of the

1602
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: audience that's there, and in college football it's ninety percent

1603
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: of the audience that's there, and in the NBA it's

1604
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the audience. And I'm talking about the

1605
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: audience that's there for the primary purpose of passion for

1606
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: the game that's being played. In Major League Baseball, it

1607
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: almost feels like it's like thirty percent the audience is

1608
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: there because they truly are invested in the team, and

1609
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: the rest of it are there because it's an entertainment

1610
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: option on a Saturday night, and there were a ton

1611
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: of entertainment options there, but you could literally have gone

1612
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: to that game, bought a ticket, walked around, had a

1613
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: wonderful time, and not watched a single pitch. And that's fine,

1614
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: because you bought your ticket right you're there, you're giving

1615
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: your money. But I just found it interesting. I mean,

1616
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: to a great extent, IndyCar falls into the same category

1617
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: because people say, go to more ovals, go to more ovals,

1618
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, but an oval you sell twenty

1619
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: thousand tickets and you're inside the oval sitting there watching

1620
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: everything on the track. A rotor street course is an

1621
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 1: outdoor festival, and you have fan zones and Merry go

1622
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 1: Round not Merry Grounds, Ferris Wheels, and you know, games

1623
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: going on and bands playing and outdoor wrestling and everything else,

1624
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: all within the confines, and all those people still bought

1625
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: a ticket. Right Milwaukee, eighty percent of the people there

1626
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: are there because they're diehard fans of IndyCar racing. Long

1627
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: Beach twenty percent are. But you get a bigger crowd

1628
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: at Long Beach because of all the auxiliary entertainment that's

1629
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: sports in twenty twenty five. And that was really kind

1630
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 1: of my first epiphany at a Major League baseball game

1631
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 1: where I walked around and thought to myself, man, like,

1632
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 1: I've watched like twenty percent of this game, and the socks.

1633
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,440
Speaker 2: By the way, are incredibly comfortable. My chapel next.

1634
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Two o'clock hour underway, Colt's getting a win in their

1635
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: pre season finale over Cincinnati and Riley Leonard was kind

1636
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: of the star of the show. Ulyssa is Bentley the

1637
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: fourth though. Thank you to all who pointed out to

1638
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: me not one but two touchdowns.

1639
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 5: For Yeah, she list has Bentley.

1640
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,560
Speaker 2: And I can do the voice because he approved of

1641
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 2: the voice, right Eddie he did last week. He gave

1642
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: you a nice little laugh too, because I don't think

1643
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 2: he was expecting that type of voice. That's right, Yes,

1644
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 2: ulyss has played well. Wei shall see if he makes

1645
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:26,480
Speaker 2: the roster.

1646
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 1: Joining us now a guy that sounds a little like

1647
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: that as well. He is, of course with CBS four

1648
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: and WXA in Fox fifty nine. Mike Chappele, the dean

1649
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: of writers for the Colts chaplets, begin with this, Now

1650
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: that we have gone through camp, now that we've gone

1651
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: through the three preseason games, is there anybody that you

1652
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: look at and you say, gosh, I did not have

1653
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: on my bingo card. That this guy would be in

1654
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: the discussion on cut day, either on the right or

1655
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 1: wrong side of things. Anybody jump out of you.

1656
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 5: Good question.

1657
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. I think there's a few

1658
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 6: familiar names that'll be let go. I think Chilane Woods.

1659
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 6: Was he a draft pick, second day draft pick three

1660
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 6: years ago. He's been the last few years of injuries.

1661
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 6: I think Will Mallory and Drew Ogletree beat him out. No,

1662
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 6: I think Daniel Scott's a great story. That was the

1663
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 6: fifth round pick in twenty three. That's Massachu his first

1664
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 6: two seasons with an acl and achilles and then he

1665
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 6: gets a pick six. He's helped out immensely, as are

1666
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 6: a couple other players by by Justin Walley having the

1667
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 6: season ending injury at corner and Hunter Wohler was going

1668
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 6: to make this roster at safety and now he's got

1669
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 6: the season in the foot injury. So no, not really.

1670
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 6: I there'll be somebody say, oh, yeah, I see that,

1671
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 6: like a maybe an undrafted rookie corner makes Jonathan Edwards

1672
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 6: or Alec Johnson are both. I think they're undrafted. I

1673
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 6: get my guys at the bottom of roster, mixed up linebacker.

1674
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 6: I'd like to know what they're gonna do. And one

1675
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 6: thing that I will I just mentioned all the time.

1676
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 6: When they cut the fifty three tomorrow, it is not

1677
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 6: the final roster. It's the roster to get the fifty three.

1678
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 6: There's gonna be one or two players I'm not sure

1679
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 6: more than that that they'll claim on waivers. You're gonna

1680
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 6: find somebody better at offensive line, I think, and either

1681
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 6: safety or linebacker, maybe running back and against injuries are

1682
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 6: going to muck this up with Nick Cross and Tyler

1683
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 6: Goodson and Khalil Herbert, those are going to make a

1684
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:56,759
Speaker 6: mess on the I r M on cut day, which

1685
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 6: means they miss four weeks. Do you carry them and

1686
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 6: then put them on I are So there's decisions. I

1687
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 6: just don't think there's gonna be a guy like Man.

1688
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 6: I didn't see that because I think what is semi

1689
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 6: good is this roster isn't a place that you shouldn't

1690
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 6: have a couple guys come out of the blue and

1691
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 6: win a spot. Again, this team has issues, but by

1692
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 6: and large, the roster doesn't have a lot of spots

1693
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 6: where a guy on there now is going to make

1694
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 6: it and be there on opening day again. I could

1695
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 6: I could see a guy making it tomorrow and then

1696
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 6: be waved on Wednesday or Thursday and brought brought back

1697
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 6: to the practice squad. So, but I'm curious how it

1698
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 6: goes because what they do, too will tell us how

1699
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 6: serious Some of these injuries to three or four of

1700
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 6: these players.

1701
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 2: Are chap when you look at the quarterback position.

1702
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 1: And the sad thing is when I talk about the

1703
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: hyperbole or the the over enthusiasm we could have for

1704
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 1: the way a guy plays, and Ryler Leonard and what

1705
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: he did agains since and he looked good, don't get

1706
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: me wrong, but sure we're in year nine of the

1707
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 1: of Ballard and it's like we're talking about the third

1708
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: string guy and whether or not he can unseat somebody

1709
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: that was not unseen. But you get what I'm saying.

1710
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: Could could they go and put him on the fifty

1711
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: three man to avoid and to protect him like from

1712
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: practice squad for example, of somebody else getting him? Talking

1713
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: about Rylan Leonard and if so, can we is it

1714
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: fair for us to speculate what that means midway through

1715
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 1: the year of what they could do with Richardson?

1716
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 6: I don't think the two are connected, and I but

1717
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 6: I do think they carry on the fifty three because

1718
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 6: somebody will. Somebody will claim him. They will. He's shown

1719
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 6: enough and if nothing else, he's showed enough a developmental

1720
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 6: potential that someone will grab him. But I just, barring

1721
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 6: barring injuries, he's not gonna play this year. I don't

1722
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 6: see a scenario. And we've seen some pretty bad scenarios.

1723
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty two keeps cutting to my mind and makes

1724
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 6: me crazy, But I just don't see a Sinnario barring injuries,

1725
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 6: they get to number three. I just don't. It would

1726
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 6: serve no purpose. And again, maybe I'm proven wrong. I've

1727
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 6: been wrong in the past many times. I just don't

1728
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 6: see them trading Anthony and Richardson. It would go against

1729
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 6: everything they said. You know, yes, they've benched him twice

1730
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 6: in nine or ten months twice and all of that,

1731
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 6: but they've also said, hey, listen, you know some players

1732
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 6: develop slower than others or whatever, and we think this

1733
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 6: guy's got to possibly the possibility of being a really,

1734
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 6: really good player. Boy to take a fifth or sixth

1735
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 6: round pick for that. I'm not a big fan of

1736
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 6: fifth and sixth round picks in general, and we've all

1737
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 6: confined players who are pretty darn good in that. But

1738
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 6: one thing they don't want is and be in Sam

1739
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 6: Arnold or Baker Mayfield. But they don't want to give

1740
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 6: up on him quite yet. I just don't see a scenario, Captain.

1741
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like they already have. I mean when

1742
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: they I know, you know what I mean. I mean

1743
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: when they come out.

1744
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: And say when the quarterback coach comes out and says,

1745
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing, but basically what he says is, look,

1746
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: I've tried about everything here and he's still not the

1747
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: starter and and it's not for lack and I get it,

1748
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: he's been hurt. And I want to be very clear,

1749
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Anthony Richardson's a bad guy. I don't

1750
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: think anybody thinks that this guy's a bad guy. But

1751
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: the Colts, for whatever reason they have at this point,

1752
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: they have basically tipped their hand over and over to say, look, guys,

1753
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't tell you we tried everything.

1754
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 6: Yeah right, I don't disagree, And you can make you

1755
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 6: can make them much stronger argument with that that I can.

1756
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 6: I just I just can't see them getting rid of him.

1757
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 6: Let's say you do that in the game too, that

1758
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 6: that Jill gets hurt. You're good to Ridley Leonard. No,

1759
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 6: of course not. And that's not a knock on Rightley

1760
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 6: Leonard at all. We need to keep in context that

1761
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 6: what Leonard did yes on Saturday was with backups, not

1762
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 6: even backups, dirt stringers against dirt stringers, which if you're

1763
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 6: a good player, Isaiah Land, if you're a good player,

1764
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 6: when you're in that situation, dominate, and that's kind of

1765
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 6: what he did. So no, you're exactly right. They've given

1766
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 6: absolutely they can say what they want. Well, just gives

1767
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 6: him a chance to sit and watch. That's Garby. I

1768
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 6: don't believe that most people say the best way to

1769
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 6: learn and grow is to play.

1770
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: You know what to play, chap.

1771
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, if the Colts don't trade

1772
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, do you during the season, during the season

1773
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 1: deep down, do you believe that is because they still

1774
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: believe he can be something for them or because they

1775
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: are or is it more so they're paranoid he could

1776
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: be something for someone else?

1777
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, right? Uh. And again, if we get the

1778
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 6: mid when the trading dead n is October, whatever I

1779
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 6: think to the tancy play he's starting before then, whether

1780
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 6: Jones gets hurt, whether Jones just doesn't play well, if

1781
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 6: Jones is not playing well, and again, look at Doug

1782
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 6: n look look at the schedule. If these guys believe,

1783
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 6: and they believe that they and I believe, they've got

1784
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 6: a playoff level roster, not super Bowl, but playoff level.

1785
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 6: And you've got what Miami Denver. You should have been

1786
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 6: in Denver last year in Denver, Tennessee. You know the

1787
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 6: Rams will be tough. But then the Raiders at home,

1788
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 6: Arizona at home.

1789
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: Uh, Atlanta, I mean outside of the chap outside of

1790
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: Kansas City and maybe San Francisco. I don't know that

1791
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: there's anybody on their roster that you that jumped out

1792
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 1: and you go, WHOA right now.

1793
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:07,520
Speaker 6: The Rams and Chargers on the road are tough, obviously,

1794
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 6: but no, that's what I'm saying is it's everything is

1795
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 6: together for these guys if they get and we've talked

1796
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 6: about it, if they just get competent plus one quarterback

1797
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 6: play whatever whatever that is, do your job, make those plays,

1798
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 6: don't do anything special, and the rest of the roster

1799
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,799
Speaker 6: should be good enough. Uh.

1800
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 5: That's why I.

1801
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 6: Don't it would go against that to get rid of

1802
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 6: a a proof what what what right now is one

1803
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 6: of the better backup backup quarterbacks in the league. With

1804
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 6: all of his flaws and you you never know what

1805
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 6: you get. He still played at a pretty good level

1806
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 6: at times. So to dump him now and watch my

1807
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 6: in Poli Minosoba a note that they've traded him, I'm kidding, Please,

1808
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 6: let's not do that. But but I just think it

1809
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 6: goes against them thinking they can they can can tend

1810
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 6: for something. Because as much as as much as Richardson

1811
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 6: is one play away or a couple of bad games

1812
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 6: away from being the starter, then that means Rightley Leonard

1813
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 6: is that close. And I think he's got potential, will

1814
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 6: be a decent player, probably a backup I don't know.

1815
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's a starter in the future,

1816
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 6: but a pretty good player. But you can't pin your

1817
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 6: your your season hopes on a rookie, a late round rookie,

1818
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,719
Speaker 6: a third day rookie. So and again you can argue

1819
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 6: a lot more because they've given you no reason. They've

1820
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 6: given us or Richardson very little reason to think they

1821
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 6: believe him. They didn't, they just haven't. But but boy,

1822
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 6: I just wouldn't get rid of him. I would be.

1823
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 6: I would be concerned, not so much right away that

1824
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 6: he's going to go somewhere and play well, because he's

1825
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 6: still I had hoped Kid made it, would have made

1826
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:02,520
Speaker 6: some further progress with it, with it quarterbacking during the offseason.

1827
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 6: I don't think he has. But in a couple of

1828
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 6: years maybe, But it's more like right now they're going

1829
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 6: with Jones because they believe Jones gives them a better

1830
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 6: chance to win right now. Shane Steichen's not worried about

1831
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. He is not, and he shouldn't be

1832
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 6: so I and you can just rip me a new

1833
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 6: one if in a month they trade Richardson and I say, yeah,

1834
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 6: you got me on that one, Jake, But I just

1835
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 6: don't see it happening.

1836
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 1: Okay, let's throw this out. And I mentioned this earlier chap.

1837
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: And we're going to see if great minds think alike. Okay, yep,

1838
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 1: And then we have to determine which of the two

1839
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 1: of us actually has a great mind. But perhaps they

1840
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 1: were to trade him if and we're strictly in the

1841
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: world of hypotheticals here, Okay, if Anthony Richardson is to

1842
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: be traded, what is his market value? Right now, what

1843
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: would be a fair and reasonable expectation for Indianapolis to

1844
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: request to get for him a.

1845
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 6: Third day pick. I just can't see getting more than

1846
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 6: a four or five because people are getting people know

1847
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 6: what they're getting, and they're banking on where we can

1848
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 6: fix how many times do you see, Well we can

1849
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 6: fix him. We can do what this team couldn't do.

1850
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 6: I remember the Colts getting Darius Seywood Bay, Well, we

1851
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 6: can get him to quit dropping the football. Well, no,

1852
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 6: you couldn't, right, you couldn't end up being a really

1853
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 6: good special teams player.

1854
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 5: A five. I don't know A five.

1855
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 1: I keep going back to, you know, and I said,

1856
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 1: this is what I said earlier, so obviously I overestimated it.

1857
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 1: My benchmark has always been Chap. You know, when they

1858
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: traded Marshall Falk and Falk at that point, I mean,

1859
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: he was in his prime. But at the same time

1860
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: some thought maybe there was too much tread on the tires.

1861
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: Obviously there was not. He went onto prolific things with

1862
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 1: the Rams, but they got a two and a five, right,

1863
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: and that was marsh a fulk Yep.

1864
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And they got,

1865
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 6: they got some new I think it was who they

1866
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 6: get that Mike Peterson kind who they got out of that.

1867
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 1: I am so proud that I know this, Chap. Matter

1868
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: of fact, I teed that up just as hoping you

1869
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: would ask Mike Peterson and Brad Scally.

1870
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 6: Right, that's no, that's not that's not Marshall faulk uh

1871
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 6: and but that that was but no, that that that

1872
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 6: just shows well, we're going to get this. No you're not.

1873
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 6: I just I just don't think that you would get

1874
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 6: a quality draft pick for me if they would get

1875
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 6: a third. I don't know what it would take me

1876
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 6: to say, yeah, go ahead, we'll take that a second

1877
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 6: or third. I I don't know. I because I I

1878
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 6: part of me wants to think that that that Richardson

1879
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 6: is going to get back in there and play well

1880
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 6: this year, and I'll be I think I'm dumb to

1881
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 6: think that. Again, all I've got to go on are

1882
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 6: two seasons of teasing of of him saying look what

1883
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 6: I can do, Look what I can do when I've

1884
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 6: got it right. And here's what I can't do, which

1885
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:02,839
Speaker 6: primarily stay on the field.

1886
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: Chad pet Yeah, here's a nickname I came up with earlier. Okay, Now,

1887
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: in my radio career, I mean, I've done this for

1888
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: a fair amount of time and I've only come up

1889
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: with two things that I'm super proud of. But I

1890
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: think this has potential to be the third.

1891
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 2: One of them. I came up with as a twenty

1892
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 2: twenty five guy. You've probably heard me mention this.

1893
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: That's a guy in the NBA that is destined to

1894
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 1: score twenty a game for a twenty five win team

1895
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 1: his whole career. Okay, like Larry Hughes was a twenty

1896
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: twenty five guy.

1897
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1898
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: The other thing I came up with that I'm pretty

1899
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 1: proud of is that offensive linemen and cornerbacks in the

1900
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: NFL are like sunglasses and cell phone chargers. You can

1901
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: never have too many because you constantly, just when you

1902
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 1: feel good about it, either lose one or one breaks. Okay,

1903
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: here's my third, and I want you to tell me

1904
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong on this. I determined that Anthony Richardson

1905
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 1: is a Fairis Bueller quarterback. And by that I don't

1906
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 1: mean that he takes days off, which he might. But

1907
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: in the movie Ferris Bueller, there's the famous line where

1908
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: the girl says Oh, I heard he's really sick. My

1909
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 1: best friend's cousin's next door neighbors uncle ran into the

1910
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: postman last night at thirty three flavors. And that's what

1911
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson has become. And by that, I mean everybody

1912
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 1: has a theory on something they heard, on something he

1913
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: did or didn't do. That is the reason he's in

1914
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 1: the doghouse and has fallen from grace. And that's a

1915
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,719
Speaker 1: dangerous place to be because even if it's not accurate,

1916
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: you can never get out of it. But am I

1917
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: wrong about that perception of him?

1918
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 6: Maybe I just I try not to listen to too

1919
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 6: much of that. I'm around the building a lot, A

1920
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 6: lot of us are, and I don't get the feeling

1921
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 6: that the team is saying, well, what you need to

1922
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 6: do this more, You need to do that more. Now

1923
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 6: that was the case last year with him being benched,

1924
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 6: which is totally totally on the team. How do you

1925
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 6: let it get to that point to where you let

1926
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 6: him slide on what he's not doing? Now that's I

1927
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 6: don't I don't think that's the case. I think he

1928
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 6: worked his ass off in the off season. I think

1929
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 6: he's he's worked hard in training camp. I think he's

1930
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 6: done the right things. And again with Cam Turner saying

1931
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 6: kind of like I've done all I can do. I

1932
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 6: don't know if that's an indictment on Anthony Richardson or

1933
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 6: on the quarterback because right, I don't know, uh, and

1934
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 6: it could be it's probably a little bit of both. Uh.

1935
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 6: I just think again all all we have to now again.

1936
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 6: One thing that changed I can kept harping on is

1937
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 6: why why did you pick Daniel Jones? Well O the process?

1938
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 6: Organizational operational? You know, he's got control of the line,

1939
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 6: and whenever coaches say that to me, it's it's the

1940
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 6: other guy isn't doing isn't doing that? So so Richardson

1941
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 6: lacks operational control and the line of scrimmage control and

1942
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 6: in communication which when he when he had the dislocated finger,

1943
01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 6: he didn't recognize a BA seek blitz and he got

1944
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 6: blown up. So there's something there. And I think I

1945
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 6: think that play had something to do with with with

1946
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,640
Speaker 6: Shane Styken, say, man, this is his third year and

1947
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 6: he didn't see that. But I I don't know that

1948
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 6: that's from Richardson not putting in the work. Maybe it's

1949
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 6: just that he's not like that. Maybe he just doesn't

1950
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 6: you know, that stuff doesn't register with him, like like

1951
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 6: you you would wanted to with with a quarterback who

1952
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 6: has to have a grasp of everything. Uh So, yeah,

1953
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 6: it's really hard when you start projecting. I just think,

1954
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 6: I just think he's not he's not progressed the way

1955
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 6: they anticipated, the way they needed. Uh And and they

1956
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 6: decided we can't.

1957
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 5: We can't. It wouldn't.

1958
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 6: It's not gonna be fair to this roster to put

1959
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 6: him out there and and and cross our fingers and

1960
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 6: hope we get the good register who stays on the field,

1961
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 6: and which again is an indictment of Richardson when they

1962
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 6: would prefer to go with Jones, who you kind of

1963
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 6: know what you're going to get, And if he was

1964
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 6: on any other team, and that team chose Richard chose

1965
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:19,719
Speaker 6: Jones over a young, talented guy with all with perhaps

1966
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 6: a great future, he'd say, Man, they just don't trust

1967
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 6: that guy, do they. And they're gonna trust this guy.

1968
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 6: That's the problem. You're trusting a guy who had who

1969
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 6: had one good year with the Giants, and it wasn't

1970
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 6: it wasn't a my guy. He was an all trouble.

1971
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 6: It was a good year. I'm not going to diminish it.

1972
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 6: The made the playoffs, won a playoff game, I think

1973
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 6: on the road as a matter of fact. But he's

1974
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 6: still twenty games under five hundred. He's still three and

1975
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 6: thirteen in his last sixteen. And yes, the Giants did

1976
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 6: him no favors, no favors with offensive linemen, with quality

1977
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 6: receivers until they got neighbors this past year. But at

1978
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 6: some level of the quarterback has to whether it's fifty

1979
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 6: to fifty, sixty, forty, whatever, the quarterback plays into the

1980
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 6: to the responsibility. And they chose that over Richardson. I

1981
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 6: understand it. I think that's more of an indictment on

1982
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson than it is praise for Daniel Jones.

1983
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 1: Listen, Chap. I'm I'm gonna repeat what I said last week.

1984
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 1: The movie The Sixth Sense with Bruce willis you know,

1985
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 1: I see dead people. Open disclaimer here, Okay, I want

1986
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: to give everybody fair warning if you've not seen the

1987
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 1: movie and you've not taken advantage of the last thirty

1988
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: two years, and yeah, you know, I don't want to

1989
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: give a spoiler alert here, but at the end of

1990
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: the movie, there is a major reveal of like that

1991
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: you should have seen and then it shows you this

1992
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: montage where you're like.

1993
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how did I not see it?

1994
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 6: How did I not How many pieces of breadcrumbs did

1995
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 6: they drop?

1996
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:57,679
Speaker 2: Correct?

1997
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,480
Speaker 5: Right, you're exactly.

1998
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 2: Right with that. With this Shane Steikin has been telling

1999
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 2: us for a year, like, guys, listen, I'm telling you

2000
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 2: this guy that he's not doing what I want him to.

2001
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 2: And then but let's keep him.

2002
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 6: You're right, And let's keep in mind though that Shane

2003
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 6: Stikein had a big hand in drafting Anthony Richardson. So

2004
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 6: you know, he and Chris Bawdle and Jim Mersey, but

2005
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 6: they had to agree that this was the guy they

2006
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 6: were going with.

2007
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: But I go back to chap and you tell me

2008
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 1: if i'm and I realized stiken had you know, he

2009
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: was a big part of the development of Jalen Hurts

2010
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 1: and you know, and Kyler Murray for that matter, I

2011
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 1: think it wasn't Kyler Murray. Who's the other one he had,

2012
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 1: Cam Turner's the one that had Kyler Murray justin Herbert Herbert. Okay, thanks,

2013
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 1: Leen Hurts and Jalen Hurts. That's what I said, But

2014
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I realized that Stikeen and you know,

2015
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 1: Steven and I talked also about the fact that Stikeen

2016
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 1: was very on board with it. But I also go

2017
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: back to it. I'm going to give Stikeen a little

2018
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: bit of a pass here. He was two months on

2019
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,799
Speaker 1: the job. So how much could he really have spoken

2020
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: up out and against like Ballard or Ursa. Maybe he

2021
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: could have, but did was it in his best interest

2022
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: to kind of just be on board with whatever they wanted?

2023
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 6: God, I would say no now. And keep in mind

2024
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 6: that when it came time at four it was it

2025
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 6: was Richard Center or or Will Levis.

2026
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Well, I get that, but they could have. I'm not

2027
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 1: saying that they had the pieces to do it. But

2028
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, Carolina moved up right to get young and

2029
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,440
Speaker 1: and I think did Houston move up to get Stroud

2030
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: or was there there was Actually it was at the

2031
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: end of the year. Remember the Colts. The Colts beat

2032
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: Houston at the end of the year, and that moved

2033
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: to Houston up a spot in front of him, if

2034
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, But but they were on record of

2035
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 1: saying if he was if we had the number one pick,

2036
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: we were going to take Richardson. Now, they might have

2037
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: just been saying.

2038
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 6: Well, you say that, you say that, when you say that,

2039
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 6: when you when you draft him?

2040
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 5: Right?

2041
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 6: You know we were we were going to take a

2042
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 6: d Mitchell right where we took him.

2043
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 2: Do you remember chat.

2044
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 6: We created we created back to get him, but go ahead.

2045
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: Do you remember the year that I remember it was

2046
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: Dallas Clark who turned out to be a great player,

2047
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but the year that the Cold

2048
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 1: drafted Dallas Clark. Bill Pulliam comes out and he says,

2049
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: this is the guy we want all along, we had

2050
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: our draft board, this is the guy we targeted, this

2051
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 1: guy from day one. That's exactly who we wanted.

2052
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 2: The board felt like we thought, and we were thrilled

2053
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: because Dallas Clark was the guy from day one that

2054
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 2: we targeted and this was our pick and okay great.

2055
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 2: Then later in the press conference, someone said, was there

2056
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 2: any conversation about possibly moving up and he says, well,

2057
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 2: we thought about that, but the guy we wanted to

2058
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 2: move up for was already taken. I'm like, wait a minute.

2059
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 2: He just said. You know, this is how it always works,

2060
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,440
Speaker 2: right in the moment conversations.

2061
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 6: How many times you say, the guy that picked in

2062
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 6: the fifth run right where we thought you'd be. Come on,

2063
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:46,599
Speaker 6: give me a break.

2064
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 5: But no.

2065
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 6: But I do think that that they were both on board,

2066
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 6: Chris Ballad and Change Styke, and we're on board that

2067
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 6: this was the right move.

2068
01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 5: And all that.

2069
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 6: And it's so point that in the past, I don't

2070
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 6: know a year, I think Shane Styke and in is

2071
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 6: he's thought, Man, I maybe I'm not, maybe I was,

2072
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 6: maybe I wasn't wrong, but this is going to take

2073
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 6: longer than I thought it was gonna take, and I'm

2074
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:18,759
Speaker 6: not sure how much longer I've got. Uh So I

2075
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 6: I think he is not well, that's obvious. He's not

2076
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 6: even remotely prepared to put his season and the Cult season.

2077
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:34,440
Speaker 6: Then again, couldn't They should be in contention for playoffs

2078
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:38,719
Speaker 6: or division in December if they get gosh we were talking,

2079
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 6: all they need is Gardner Minshew go back and get

2080
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 6: his season a little bit more.

2081
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 2: Obviously, because I mean to be fair in conclusion here,

2082
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: to be fair to Chris Ballard, because you know, I'm

2083
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 2: not going to throw you in this category. I've been

2084
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 2: pretty critical of Chris Ballard in a lot of areas.

2085
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 2: Like I said, earlier. You know, he developed Ballard Steakhouse

2086
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 2: and they have really good things on the menu. But

2087
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 2: he's still trying to find a guy that properly can

2088
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 2: prepare steak.

2089
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 5: Right.

2090
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 1: But having said that, right, it is a good roster though, right,

2091
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying elite. I'm not saying, you know,

2092
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 1: going in against the Saints in the Super Bowl or

2093
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: winning against the Bears in the Super Bowl. But it

2094
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: is a pretty good roster that does have some depth

2095
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 1: in areas other than the most important one.

2096
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 6: Right, no question. I like the skill players. I like

2097
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 6: Tyler Warren. I really like Jonathan Taylor. I need to

2098
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 6: see the defense because it's not been together because of

2099
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 6: injuries everybody. Most teams have problems. But until you get

2100
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 6: the quarterback fixed, it's just hard to project. That's why

2101
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 6: this is such a a wide swing on what they

2102
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 6: might they might do this year. If you get bad

2103
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 6: quarterback play, I don't care how good your roster is,

2104
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 6: you're not gonna win very often. And if you get

2105
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 6: a good quarterback play, we saw what Andrew Luck did

2106
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 6: with them with some you know, social rosters. He won

2107
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 6: three straight to eleven games three straight years with a

2108
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 6: flawed roster. So it's quarterback. It's quarterback driven, and they're

2109
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 6: going into the season and I've got my fingers crossed.

2110
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 6: I'm sure they don't. They've got to be fully on

2111
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 6: board with this, but I don't know how Jones is

2112
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 6: gonna play, and to me, it just is.

2113
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 2: It is for sure.

2114
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: But hey, it's the National Football League and we've been

2115
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 1: through this before with the quarterback uncertainty. And we'll see

2116
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: whether or not they get you know, maybe they get

2117
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: that miracle year the Colts got out of Don mccowski

2118
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 1: for a while, or Jim Harbaugh when he came here.

2119
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, we shall see. But then again, they could

2120
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: end up with Craig Erickson. We just don't know that.

2121
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 6: And if they make a trade in the next week

2122
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 6: or months. You just kind of ripped me a new

2123
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 6: one on radio.

2124
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 2: All right.

2125
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying listen, I'm not saying that I disagree

2126
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, we'll see, right, But again, they

2127
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: they can tell me that they're on board with Richardson

2128
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: and they still want to see him develop. But I

2129
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: would simply say that everything else that they have done,

2130
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 1: their actions speak louder than their words, and that.

2131
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 6: At the point in year three. Mental reps, in my mind,

2132
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 6: are overrated. You need to play.

2133
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that's fair. All right, Chap, appreciate it. We'll

2134
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: talk to you soon.

2135
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 5: All right, sound good?

2136
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 6: Can you touch?

2137
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 5: All right?

2138
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: Mike Chappell from CBS four and wxin Fox fifty nine.

2139
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: A recap of other things that happened in the weekend

2140
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 1: in sports. And yeah, we got into that Riley Leonard

2141
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: stuff a lot earlier, but there was something that happened

2142
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 1: over the weekend that was pretty darn cool. And we

2143
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 1: have yet to find out why Eddie Garrison's back is sore.

2144
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 5: Today.

2145
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 2: We'll dive into that riddle next. By the way, here's

2146
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 2: a question for you, okay, me or just a general

2147
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 2: listening audience either.

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01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So if one is to rent a car on

2149
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: a weekend, where on Monday, because it is a holiday,

2150
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 1: the rental car play is closed and you cannot return it.

2151
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: Should you be charged for Monday? That's a good question.

2152
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 1: You can't just drop it off and there's not like

2153
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: a key drop box at this location that is correct?

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01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean even if you drop it off

2155
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 1: in the lock box, they're not getting it until Tuesday.

2156
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 2: Right, But you wouldn't have it Monday.

2157
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 1: Understood, but they wouldn't be able to verify that you've

2158
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: dropped it off until Tuesday.

2159
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 2: Right, They would know you were dropped it off probably

2160
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 2: at some point Monday. Then if somebody comes into the office,

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: you know, Tuesday morning before opening hours and they see

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01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 2: the cars back.

2163
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: But they're ready, but they hit a button at like

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01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 1: eight am on Tuesday like returned boom, So it does

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01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: not show that it was returned. I mean, but I'm

2166
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 1: sitting here looking at it. I'm like, wait a minute,

2167
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm willing to return it on Monday. Where are you?

2168
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 2: Just simply my question?

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01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 6: Uh?

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01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so Eddie you said, and I don't know if

2171
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 1: it's from carrying this show, but you said you have

2172
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 1: a sore.

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01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 2: Back yeah, sword back yeah, and neck neck as well?

2174
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 2: Neck and back? Yes? Is old age starting to get

2175
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 2: to you already?

2176
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 5: You know?

2177
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 2: I hope not. I hope not.

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01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, which do you think is

2179
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 1: worse the way your back and neck feel or the

2180
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 1: way my foot looks?

2181
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: Your foot? I showed you a photo of my foot,

2182
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: right you showed uh, yeah, you sent it to me

2183
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 2: and then uh did you put it up? I'm pretty sure.

2184
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 2: You put it up to the camera as well. Right

2185
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 2: do you want me to hold my foot up to

2186
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 2: the camera right now? No, no, Jake, you have to

2187
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: pay for those kind of things. Listen.

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01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 1: So I hit my foot this weekend, I had, I

2189
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 1: had a paddock accident.

2190
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 2: I did not injure my back by doing something, well,

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01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 2: I guess technically. Yeah. So so hey, Jake, the rental

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01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 2: is until they open again. I get that.

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01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: But if they're closed, I mean, should if that's the

2194
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 1: cash in a rental car place, just be like we're

2195
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: closed all week. You got a one week rental, I mean,

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01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, So Eddie, tell me why you're back

2197
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 1: in Necker Swore, and then I'll explain why my foot

2198
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: looks like the Grand Canyon.

2199
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 2: I went out of town over the weekend, a nice

2200
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 2: little family reunion on Olivia side of things on Saturday

2201
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 2: and Sunday for a little bit, and just because all

2202
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 2: the bedrooms in beds were occupied and I was out

2203
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 2: until a little over midnight, just outside hanging out, you know,

2204
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 2: having a good time whatever. She was already asleep and

2205
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: had taken the couch, so I got the floor and

2206
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 2: I woke up and I was away. This was this

2207
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 2: is a cabin, a house, a hotel? What house? Okay,

2208
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 2: so you slept on the floor. It was a hardwood floor.

2209
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 2: I no, well carpeted, but pretty much like I.

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01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 1: Actually, here's a weird quaryism. I occasionally will sleep on

2211
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: the floor. I woke up on find comfortable. I woke

2212
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 1: up on my side and my neck and back have

2213
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 1: been bothering me today.

2214
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 2: I noticed you're you're maneuvering yourself in a very awkward way,

2215
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 2: like you keep you know, mm hmm, okay, thank you

2216
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 2: for the observation, Jake.

2217
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: So I hit my foot and then even though now

2218
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 1: and I might have mentioned this, I'm on one one

2219
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 1: of the medications that I was taken off of is

2220
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 1: a blood thinner. But I'm still on at blood thinner,

2221
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 1: just not as extreme. But I don't think that that

2222
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 1: has like really taken effect yet. So like literally, I

2223
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 1: look at something and I can bruise, and I hit

2224
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 1: my As soon as I hit my foot, I was

2225
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 1: running and I didn't see something in front of me,

2226
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 1: and I basically stubbed at the top of my foot

2227
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 1: for lack of a better phrase. And as soon as

2228
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 1: that happened, I thought to myself, that's going to leave

2229
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 1: a mark.

2230
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 2: And did it? Ever? And now four of my five

2231
02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 2: little piggies.

2232
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 1: Look like, uh, kind of like Bartie right.

2233
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 2: The Dinosaur. Yeah.

2234
02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 1: I got Bartie Grover and Clifford the Big Red Dog

2235
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 1: as my little piggies. I mean my foot is like

2236
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 1: a combination of purple, yellow and like it kind of

2237
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 1: looks like a Northwestern football lineup right.

2238
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:26,720
Speaker 2: Oh, who's the girl in will you want the Chocolate Factory? Yeah,

2239
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 2: a little of that the blueberry turned blue? Yeah, Violet

2240
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Speaker 2: is that her name.

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Speaker 1: I think that is right. I think that is right.

2242
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not a good situation.

2243
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about observations, and one observation, uh,

2244
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 2: you haven't joined the Korean Company Fantasy League and draft tonight.

2245
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm trying right now, four hours. No, I'm trying right now,

2246
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 2: just so you know, you sent me the link and

2247
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do so and it just it just

2248
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 2: sits there, like when I hit the like sign in button,

2249
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 2: it just sits there. Whatever this happens to me, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: Typically in these situations, you know, you or whoever else

2251
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, I just don't know what you're doing.

2252
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 1: And then I handed to people and they go, you

2253
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 1: know what, You're right?

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02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 2: Do you try closing out in a reopening? Jake? Did

2255
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 2: you try that?

2256
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm about to just so you know, seven o'clock Chicago's

2257
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:20,080
Speaker 1: Pizza in Greenwood.

2258
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,160
Speaker 2: Tonay, you need to join as well.

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02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 1: Tony if you were out there, so that that's who

2260
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 1: it was, Hey, Tonay, yep?

2261
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 2: Then you have Tony's phone number? Right? I sent Tony

2262
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 2: a text call him. Here's the thing. Tony replied to

2263
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 2: my text that I sent him with the invite, he

2264
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 2: just hasn't joined, Yett. Let me show you a you

2265
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:39,400
Speaker 2: actually have Tony's number as well, Jake.

2266
02:02:40,520 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 1: Let me give you having nothing to do with that, Eddie.

2267
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not calling you out on this, but let

2268
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 1: me tell you something that And again, i'd like to know.

2269
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just an old guy here. Okay, maybe I'm

2270
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 1: an old man yelling at clouds. But am I the

2271
02:02:55,160 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 1: only one that finds this interest? I'll just say it

2272
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: that way. Okay, young people, And I'm not trying to

2273
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 1: sound old. But when I say young people, I mean

2274
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean I get that there is

2275
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 1: a whole new generation now, people that have never dealt

2276
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,880
Speaker 1: with correspondence that was not cell phone epicentered. I get that,

2277
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: but it is amazing to me. And maybe I'm the

2278
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: only one that thinks this. I would like to know

2279
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:28,840
Speaker 1: from professionals. And when I say professionals, I mean people

2280
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 1: like that, you know, forty and above in the real world.

2281
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 1: We don't live in the real world. We do sports

2282
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 1: stuck radio. Thiss ain't the real world, right. But when

2283
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 1: people that are like college age or right out of

2284
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 1: college or high school age, you know, if they're coming

2285
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 1: into job shadow or they want to interview me for

2286
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 1: like a paper they're doing, or whatever it might be,

2287
02:03:57,160 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: and they will email me and I say, here's my

2288
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 1: cell phone number, like reach out to me and I'd

2289
02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 1: be happy to help you out, talk to you whatever.

2290
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: And then they will text and say, is this a

2291
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 1: good time to call or is there a time that

2292
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 1: I can schedule a phone call? Like schedule a phone call,

2293
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 1: you call me. If I'm available, I'll pick up. If not,

2294
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 1: I'll call you back. Like the the making an appointment,

2295
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 1: the reaching out and texting or emailing someone to make

2296
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 1: an appointment to call them on the phone. I get

2297
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 1: in a job interview circumstance or things like that. You

2298
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 1: have appointments in those areas, But for simple interpersonal communication,

2299
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you.

2300
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 2: Have to.

2301
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 1: Just reach out and like the old ad says, reach

2302
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: out and touch someone like you got to reach out

2303
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: to people instead of like setting up an appointment on

2304
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: when it then becomes more convenient and comfortable for you.

2305
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes making things happen in the real world is about

2306
02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 1: getting outside of your comfort zone. Now, I'm I like

2307
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 1: the oldest person on the planet. When I say that,

2308
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 1: do I sound like some old curmudgeon of like, I

2309
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 1: don't know, just call me. I get there's a courtesy

2310
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 1: I guess of you know, asking ahead of time, but

2311
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 1: or if it's going to be if you're if it's like, hey,

2312
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: I want to do a thirty minute interview with you.

2313
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 1: What time is convenient for you? That's one thing. But

2314
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 1: to simply say, like what time is a good time

2315
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 1: to call you? Or is now a good time to call?

2316
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 1: What do you mean is now a good time to call?

2317
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 1: You just texted me? Just just call me and find

2318
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 1: out if it's a good time to call. I'll answer.

2319
02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:36,440
Speaker 2: Am I like being too ridiculous here? I just think

2320
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 2: times have changed. Jake where people value the time a

2321
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 2: lot more, and so like, hey.

2322
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 1: Everything, but but but Eddie, that value the time a

2323
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 1: lot more.

2324
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 2: They value their personal time a lot correct. So if

2325
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,000
Speaker 2: they if they're if they value their personal time too

2326
02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 2: much to if you're if you're calling me because you

2327
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 2: need me to do you a favor, then I'm sorry

2328
02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 2: that it's a violation of your personal time. Then I

2329
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:05,080
Speaker 2: guess I don't have time for it. In other words,

2330
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:07,880
Speaker 2: if you're like, I get that they're they're reaching out

2331
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,640
Speaker 2: to say, what's a good time for you, But in reality,

2332
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 2: they're saying that they're doing that to better themselves or

2333
02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 2: to help themselves in my opinion, And like in your

2334
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 2: scenario that you're saying, like, hey, I call you Jake,

2335
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:21,080
Speaker 2: let's say for example, and it's and then you don't

2336
02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 2: call me back, and a half hour later after you

2337
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,360
Speaker 2: missing after missing the call, it and may be busy

2338
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 2: at that time, and then next thing you know, it

2339
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 2: takes forever to kind of get in touch. You just

2340
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 2: keep playing phone tag. So the whole point of you know,

2341
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 2: to prevent phone tag is just hey, can you can

2342
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 2: I call you at six o'clock?

2343
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:41,400
Speaker 1: I get at that point, yes, But the initial thing

2344
02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:46,960
Speaker 1: of or or just the text of is this a

2345
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: good time to Like when I get the ones, it's like,

2346
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 1: is this a good time to call you?

2347
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:50,280
Speaker 2: Right now?

2348
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: Just call me and I'll answer it. I just think

2349
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 1: it's weird, like I think it. To me, it shows cowardice.

2350
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:00,760
Speaker 1: To me, it shows cowardice. It's like you don't have

2351
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: the cajones to just pick up the phone and call me.

2352
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:04,800
Speaker 1: That's how it looks to me.

2353
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to just do that now every night if

2354
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 2: I need to get a hold of you, hate, can

2355
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:08,600
Speaker 2: I call you?

2356
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: Like if somebody is if you're trying to get a job,

2357
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:16,040
Speaker 1: or you're trying to get especially like in this line

2358
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: of work, if you're trying to accomplish that, then you've

2359
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 1: got to have the courage to pick up the phone

2360
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 1: and call somebody and like cold call somebody.

2361
02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 2: Again.

2362
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's just polite, Okay, I mean maybe I

2363
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 1: don't know. I live in an era where like the

2364
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: phone would ring and every time you did it was roulette.

2365
02:07:38,360 --> 02:07:40,880
Speaker 1: Hey Jake, what's a good time to text you? Exactly?

2366
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:45,120
Speaker 1: All hours? Call me in all hours. I'm all about it.

2367
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:50,400
Speaker 1: I like this from Adam Jake. You're famous we don't

2368
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 1: like to bother famous people.

2369
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, those on the text line are those

2370
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 2: directly to you. Those are directly to me, okay, and

2371
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 2: not the station text line. I looked at the station

2372
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 2: text groove earlier. Here's the problem with the uh, the

2373
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 2: station text line is. I like to try to interact

2374
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 2: and respond back to people immediately or or I'm sorry later,

2375
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 2: because you know, when we're on the air, it's kind

2376
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:11,120
Speaker 2: of hard to do so. A lot of times later

2377
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:12,120
Speaker 2: I will respond.

2378
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 1: To people, but it's hard when I'm with the one

2379
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:16,240
Speaker 1: coming to the radio station because I'm on the air, right.

2380
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:19,480
Speaker 2: What what's the difference between you answering on you know,

2381
02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 2: through a text line via the fan or your.

2382
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:24,040
Speaker 1: Phone, because the one on the fan I only see

2383
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:26,560
Speaker 1: when I'm sitting right here. I can't go back at

2384
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 1: six o'clock tonight and look at that, but I can

2385
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:30,760
Speaker 1: on my phone.

2386
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 2: True.

2387
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:39,080
Speaker 1: I again, sometimes the hardest thing about my brain is

2388
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 1: that it's the only brain I know. Jamb will join us.

2389
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 1: We'll hand it off to him. Next we'll find out

2390
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 1: what he's got going on for his program that gets

2391
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 1: underway in fifteen. Hey, Jake, this on the text line

2392
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:57,320
Speaker 1: at two through nine ten seventy. Do you think matherin

2393
02:08:57,400 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: situation could be similar to Anthony Richardson If mad And

2394
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: flops this season and he takes a back burner, would

2395
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 1: you say the same to maybe Walker and Ben Shephard.

2396
02:09:05,480 --> 02:09:07,920
Speaker 1: Would they be on the trade block. Something has to

2397
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 1: give for both the Colts and Pacers situation. That from

2398
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 1: Jake yes and no. I think it's totally different because

2399
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 1: Matherin and Walker. It's simply they know that Matherin and

2400
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,640
Speaker 1: Walker can play. And I don't know that the Colts

2401
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:23,680
Speaker 1: feel that they know that Richardson can play. I think

2402
02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 1: they may be convinced he can't. And in Matheren's case,

2403
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 1: you know absolutely what he's capable of. Walker started to

2404
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 1: show and then he got hurt. But I do think

2405
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 1: that Walker is going to be a good player. I

2406
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:40,600
Speaker 1: think it isn't. I think there's no question they know

2407
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:45,120
Speaker 1: talking about the Pacers who Matherin is. But I think

2408
02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 1: this year they they utilize this season. This is just

2409
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 1: my thinking, but you utilize this season to let Matherin

2410
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 1: show what he can do so that someone else then

2411
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 1: gives you a healthy sum to take him. And that's

2412
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 1: not because they don't like Matheren. And it's not because

2413
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:16,720
Speaker 1: Mathern doesn't benefit them, but I think that Mathern's style.

2414
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Mathern won them a game in the finals,

2415
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:23,560
Speaker 1: he just did. But his style is the one player

2416
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 1: that his efficiency or win and where he operates doesn't

2417
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:35,240
Speaker 1: necessarily go along within the norm. What it is that

2418
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:37,160
Speaker 1: the style that they want to play when they are

2419
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 1: healthy and have everybody there. And I like Mathern, but

2420
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:46,520
Speaker 1: Matheren won them to a great extent. Matheruren won them

2421
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 1: game three and lost them game four.

2422
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean truthfully, yeah, because he came in it was

2423
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 2: like a still a close game and then cons two

2424
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 2: dead ball fouls. He had a total meltdown, missed two

2425
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:58,080
Speaker 2: free throws, he had a total It was like, what

2426
02:10:58,120 --> 02:11:02,320
Speaker 2: in the world is going on? It was bad. But

2427
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, in the case of Richardson, I

2428
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:09,160
Speaker 2: just I situationally, Anthony Richardson may still get on the

2429
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:11,520
Speaker 2: field this year. I get that. Situationally, there's still a

2430
02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:14,960
Speaker 2: chance for him to do that. But it just.

2431
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 1: Feels to me deep down like the Colts have decided

2432
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 1: that he can't play and.

2433
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:23,080
Speaker 2: They've I.

2434
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:31,200
Speaker 1: You know it. It kind of reminds you of the

2435
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 1: joke of the guy that is on the deserted island

2436
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 1: and you talk Tom Hanks, that's right. Helicopter shows up

2437
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 1: and says like, you know, we think we can get

2438
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 1: you out of here. And he says, that's okay. I've

2439
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: I've actually prayed to a higher being to and then

2440
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, later a cruise ship comes says we think

2441
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 1: he can get you out here, and he goes, I pray

2442
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: to a higher being that's going to deliver for me,

2443
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 1: and you know, finally he ends up passing away and

2444
02:11:58,240 --> 02:11:59,480
Speaker 1: he gets to it and he's like, look, I was

2445
02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:00,840
Speaker 1: praying every day and the like, we sent you a

2446
02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 1: helicopter and cruise ship, what more do you want? It

2447
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of feels like that with with Richardson and the

2448
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: fact of like we told you a million times here,

2449
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 1: what more do you want? It just feels to me

2450
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 1: like they have they are curious why we haven't all

2451
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,920
Speaker 1: figured it out. H J and B has arrived for

2452
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:19,800
Speaker 1: the big show. It is a perfect day outside today,

2453
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 1: by the way, at least it was when we came in.

2454
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,240
Speaker 1: Is it still it was cloudy? When I seriously it

2455
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 1: was beautiful. I think this weather sucks.

2456
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:26,320
Speaker 5: I hate it.

2457
02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:28,560
Speaker 3: What do you hate about because I got to have

2458
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:30,760
Speaker 3: hot and human it in August. This is not August weather.

2459
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,000
Speaker 3: It does feel like October for sure.

2460
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2461
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 3: This weather can Yeah, it gets the pool water cold

2462
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:36,760
Speaker 3: and all that crap.

2463
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't like that Hopkins spice.

2464
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:39,280
Speaker 4: No.

2465
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:43,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned it on Thursday, Eddie. You mentioned pumpkin spice,

2466
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:45,440
Speaker 1: and then I went to go pick something up from

2467
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 1: the store and literally everywhere I turned it was pumpkin

2468
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:49,760
Speaker 1: spice stuff and I'm blaming you. And Halloween candy was

2469
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 1: out too. I'm like, what in the world, John, what's

2470
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 1: on the big program today? How was your weekend?

2471
02:12:53,560 --> 02:12:53,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2472
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:54,800
Speaker 2: What was grass?

2473
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 3: All the Black Keys last night?

2474
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,960
Speaker 2: How was that? Oh? They're good, They're talented guys.

2475
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:00,919
Speaker 3: I kind of wondered why they want aren't at ruolfh

2476
02:13:00,920 --> 02:13:03,200
Speaker 3: And it ever was, Although I'm glad they were it Everwise,

2477
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:07,360
Speaker 3: I love Everwise, but it was absolutely slammed with Black

2478
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 3: Keys fans. I think anybody that has grown a beard

2479
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:13,240
Speaker 3: in Central Indiana. Every dude was there last night.

2480
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this. You and I might have talked

2481
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,080
Speaker 1: the I think it's the Luminears that Shannon went to

2482
02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 1: their show recently said it's become like a like a

2483
02:13:23,200 --> 02:13:24,720
Speaker 1: college age girl band, has it?

2484
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:24,960
Speaker 7: Really?

2485
02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that'd be the only reason why i'd

2486
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:33,120
Speaker 3: go probably. Yeah, hey, four years ago today.

2487
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:35,360
Speaker 2: That's right, Rob Miller passes.

2488
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 3: Robin Miller passed away four years ago today. It's incredible.

2489
02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 2: I can't believe that's been four years.

2490
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:40,960
Speaker 4: Man.

2491
02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:44,880
Speaker 3: Did you see that that Becky at Workingman's Friend put

2492
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:49,160
Speaker 3: online that somebody had vandalized that long time PEPSI signed

2493
02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 3: that they had from.

2494
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:50,560
Speaker 2: Working with his friend.

2495
02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Robin Miller's going to haunt whoever that

2496
02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:53,920
Speaker 3: fool is.

2497
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing he loved more than Workingman's

2498
02:13:56,240 --> 02:13:57,000
Speaker 2: Friend was Pepsi.

2499
02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You know he's gonna haunt some ass, that's

2500
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:05,720
Speaker 3: for sure right there. But I saw online where they were.

2501
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,400
Speaker 3: They were trying to get somebody to fix it. So

2502
02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to be there in the not

2503
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:13,160
Speaker 3: so distant future. I looked at back Working's Friend. Yeah,

2504
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:15,000
Speaker 3: that place is awesome. I haven't been there. I think

2505
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 3: every year at least annually I'll show up. You got

2506
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 3: some sun in Milwaukee?

2507
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 2: Did and the last day there were some sunglasses in

2508
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 2: Milwaukee too, didn't He did? And I wore a.

2509
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:26,640
Speaker 1: I have like a head covering thing that I wore

2510
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:30,880
Speaker 1: yesterday over the over my forehead. But it didn't didn't matter.

2511
02:14:30,920 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 1: On Saturday, I got scorched. Yeah you did. I do

2512
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 1: love Milwaukee. I love the city of Milwaukee. Had a

2513
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:40,040
Speaker 1: lot of fun up there. So I sent a picture

2514
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:42,240
Speaker 1: of me at the Brewers game and somebody's response was

2515
02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:45,400
Speaker 1: you like drinking beer? And I said, I like drinking

2516
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:48,040
Speaker 1: diet Coke. I like drinking yeah water, I like drinking beer.

2517
02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:50,240
Speaker 1: You know, I like a number of different beverages.

2518
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:52,640
Speaker 3: Did you I know you had d on a little

2519
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:56,480
Speaker 3: bit earlier. Did you guys have live audio? When Edge's

2520
02:14:56,520 --> 02:15:02,440
Speaker 3: team won that race, his reaction was, yeah.

2521
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 2: I was standing right next to him when the check

2522
02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:09,800
Speaker 2: and flag fell and umberly excited. Yeah he was, he was.

2523
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:12,800
Speaker 2: He was in a good mood. But he is not

2524
02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:14,919
Speaker 2: necessarily like an overstated individual.

2525
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:18,080
Speaker 3: I don't think yeah we won, you know, And it

2526
02:15:18,120 --> 02:15:18,920
Speaker 3: wasn't alex.

2527
02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:23,640
Speaker 1: Po alex Polo was dominant yesterday and then the tires

2528
02:15:23,640 --> 02:15:25,000
Speaker 1: went away, and.

2529
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 2: To be dominant all the way to F one? Isn't

2530
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:30,680
Speaker 2: he in that second seat for Red Bull? Is that seat?

2531
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:31,680
Speaker 2: Is there?

2532
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:34,080
Speaker 3: Kind of a curse on that seat. Is that what

2533
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:37,480
Speaker 3: they who's been in that seat that's been cursed?

2534
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:40,880
Speaker 2: So Checko Perez is how that he was with him

2535
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:44,680
Speaker 2: last year, Pere Checko Checko Sergios is actual name. They

2536
02:15:44,680 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 2: call him Checko Sergio Perez. Okay, he's went next year

2537
02:15:48,080 --> 02:15:52,680
Speaker 2: with the UH Andrettie team with Cadillac. They've had a

2538
02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:54,520
Speaker 2: couple of different guys in there this year, but you

2539
02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:56,960
Speaker 2: know that's always because they have trouble with that other

2540
02:15:57,000 --> 02:16:00,800
Speaker 2: seat because it's always catered towards Max rostopping the yeah right,

2541
02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 2: and the other driver hardly ever gets input on the

2542
02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:03,760
Speaker 2: car there.

2543
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:05,400
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is there was a lot of

2544
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:07,440
Speaker 1: talk at one time with Ganassi Racing that you know,

2545
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:10,600
Speaker 1: people would say that all the resources went towards Scott

2546
02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 1: Dixon early on, and then you know, Dario and Polo

2547
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:14,440
Speaker 1: both have been really good in those cars and Pelo's

2548
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:15,120
Speaker 1: been unbelievable.

2549
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 3: I think Riley Leonard would be really good in that

2550
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:18,280
Speaker 3: second Red Bull car.

2551
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:20,480
Speaker 2: Rather than they're going to be the backup quarterback, He's

2552
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,680
Speaker 2: going to be in the third quarterback. I know. Yeah,

2553
02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:25,160
Speaker 2: but there are those that the backup he should start

2554
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:26,480
Speaker 2: hand it over to them.

2555
02:16:26,920 --> 02:16:29,000
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a little too. I've been around here

2556
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:31,640
Speaker 3: for Chad Kelly and been around here for Sam Elleger.

2557
02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:33,800
Speaker 3: I think we've been through all this before. I I

2558
02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:35,760
Speaker 3: hope that it is different. It'd be great if it

2559
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:40,600
Speaker 3: was Chad Kelly, new and unusual. But there's too much

2560
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:41,400
Speaker 3: Chad Kelly.

2561
02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:44,240
Speaker 1: And that's a good call on Kelly, because that is

2562
02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:47,160
Speaker 1: definitely that has the same vibe in terms of the fan.

2563
02:16:47,720 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 3: This and he's the starter and you can get this

2564
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 3: and trade this guy and trade that guy. I just

2565
02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:54,640
Speaker 3: want them to win in week number one. I mean

2566
02:16:54,879 --> 02:16:57,600
Speaker 3: my bar has set for this show right now.

2567
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:00,240
Speaker 1: Seriously, been a while since week number one on the

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Speaker 1: Colts have gotten a win.

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Speaker 3: SkyPoint to r four years ago today. Uh love, we

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Speaker 3: miss we miss him so much, loved him, loved him.

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Speaker 3: Don't you find yourself thinking, I wonder what r how

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Speaker 3: he would feel about this?

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Speaker 2: Oh daily. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the last things that Robin Miller said to

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Speaker 1: me John was right before he passed, I was I

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Speaker 1: had interviewed for an opening at this station, and I

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Speaker 1: walked into his hospital room and the light was off,

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Speaker 1: and I walked in and said, Rob, what's up? And

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Speaker 1: he looked right at me and said, son, tell me

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Speaker 1: you're going to get that job over at that radio station.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. It was pretty awesome. What a great guy.

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Speaker 3: We miss him four years ago. Today the best sky point.

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Speaker 3: All right, John's up next. We will be back with

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Speaker 3: you at noon tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Don Fisher, Mike Chappel, Ed Carpenter, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you listening to Querying Company.