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Speaker 1: So yesterday afternoon the IEDC forensic Audit was released, and

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Speaker 1: There's not going to be one person that's going to

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Speaker 1: They all got away with it. We told you they

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Speaker 3: That they can't do anything about.

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Speaker 1: It because in a strange way, if they do something

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Speaker 3: So what you've.

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Speaker 1: Gotten is eight hundred thousand dollars of your hard earned

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Speaker 2: So let's do an audit overview for everybody. This was

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Speaker 2: conducted by FTI Consulting. As Rob mentioned, it cost eight

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I had this conversation with somebody a while

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Speaker 3: And that is by design. Don't kid yourselves.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing. So there's these large contracts that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just going to give it to this one group,

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Speaker 2: for sure. Lots of conflicts of interest. Thirty entities had

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Speaker 2: Nearly fifty percent of IDF's thirteen point four million dollars

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Speaker 3: Now, one of the things that we've got to point out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so not mentioning anything about this audit.

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Speaker 2: It's one hundred and twenty one pages. He's taken his

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe he understands it the way under admitted he

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Speaker 1: the money that has flowed to the IEDC. Where are

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Speaker 1: Nashalla the comptroller. Has Braun said anything like as Braun

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Speaker 2: It's just his office. And the only thing that they

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Speaker 3: Where's Todd Roketa, mister law and order?

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Speaker 1: Does he stand behind what was it thirty conflicts of

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the eighty six thousand

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Speaker 2: that was spent on international car racing events. Where is

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Speaker 2: the return on investment? How much eighty six thousand.

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Speaker 3: On car racing?

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Speaker 2: International car racing?

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Speaker 3: Oh not even like we're helping the indy five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Correct seven hundred thousand on luxury hotels. They give an example,

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Speaker 3: That's who's going to be able to borrow.

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Speaker 3: To look at that.

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Speaker 2: Grocery price is thirty percent higher than five years old.

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Speaker 1: You know what will make your life well Okay, First

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Speaker 1: I think he was talking about us. So we'll play

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Speaker 2: He's up next on ninety three WIBC. Great news, Casey, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what's that rom?

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Speaker 3: We have a new winner of the a hole of

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's won before, but he's taken

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Speaker 2: He was getting big mad, was wasn't he? So?

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Speaker 1: I think our old pal Indie reporter Stephen Whitmer and

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Speaker 3: Give them a follow.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Steven's done a great job of plowing

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Speaker 3: In ways that they usually don't.

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Speaker 1: So if you had a little spicier take on the

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Speaker 1: turn my lights on to make sure the air conditioner works.

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Speaker 1: As we saw and we laid out on this program

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Speaker 1: when he appeared to tried to strong arm Mayor Austin Bonta,

443
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: the mayor of Portage, who the mayor was, came on

444
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Speaker 1: our program and talked about this in great detail that

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Speaker 1: he had spoken out about the iu r C, the

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Speaker 1: Utility Regulatory Commission, and their repeated approval of rate hikes

447
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Speaker 1: and the utility in his area and their rate hikes,

448
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: and saying, look, my constituents simply are running out of money.

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Speaker 3: This must stop.

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Speaker 1: Please, and a solidays like some sort of mafia figure,

451
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Speaker 1: send him a text message saying, hey, you speak out

452
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to do what I can to make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys don't get an increase in funding.

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Speaker 2: Going yeah, maybe if he wasn't threatening various mayors to

455
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Speaker 2: cut off funding, there would be a problem, right then.

456
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Speaker 1: It also came out in this huge expose from The

457
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Speaker 1: Indie Star back in August about one the amount of

458
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Speaker 1: money that these utilities have given to lawmakers, and in

459
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Speaker 1: particular the amount of money that has been bestowed upon

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Speaker 1: mister Soliday Representative Soliday in the form of meals and entertainment.

461
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 2: Take Dinner Soliday, Take Dinner Soliday.

462
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: Something like nine hundred dollars, I believe was the number

463
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Speaker 1: that they came up with.

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Speaker 3: And yet this.

465
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Speaker 2: Guy, he's mad at us is for the media.

466
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Speaker 1: He's not mad that his constituents are being forced out

467
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Speaker 1: of potentially being able to afford to flip their lights on.

468
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Speaker 1: He's not outraged that these utility companies keep basically getting

469
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Speaker 1: whatever they want. No listen to this casey, he's mad

470
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Speaker 1: at us for pointing out his voting record and pointing out, Hey,

471
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Speaker 1: some of our listeners.

472
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Speaker 3: They're having trouble making ends meet. This was ed.

473
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Speaker 1: I believe this was. I think this was yesterday in

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Speaker 1: a government meeting. Take a listen.

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Speaker 4: So we put legislation in place to fix that infrastructure.

476
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Speaker 4: We invested for the future, and we've done the same

477
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: thing with electric but the same people keep crying. Oh

478
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: and they lie to people and say you can have

479
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: zero increase in rates. That is a lie, you can

480
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Speaker 4: probably tell. I have a real burr under my saddle

481
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: about the hyperbole that has gone on. And it's not

482
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Speaker 4: just on one side of the aisle, particularly the media,

483
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Speaker 4: who has not been responsible in this issue. So I

484
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 4: only am taking this time, and I know we'll don't

485
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Speaker 4: to put the hyperbole in some kind of context. We're

486
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Speaker 4: trying to fix our infrastructure for our kids.

487
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Speaker 1: So I'm screwing you over and over and over again

488
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Speaker 1: so that your kids can have something nicer. Tell me,

489
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: mister Soliday, what the hell does a Google data center

490
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Speaker 1: have to do with making my daughter have a better life.

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Speaker 2: I want to point out something else that the electric

492
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: utilities collectively have donated millions to the IEDC.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because they're the big winners. Aha.

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Speaker 1: So to bring our show full circle, full circle. Wonderfully

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Speaker 1: well done, Casey. Yes, I believe it's part of that.

496
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Speaker 1: The ied F, the foundation that was paying for a

497
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Speaker 1: lot of this. These utilities were donating massive amounts of

498
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Speaker 1: money because they would supply to pay for these trips,

499
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: et cetera, because they would supply the power for whatever

500
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: these things are that come to the state of Indiana,

501
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Speaker 1: and they would make big money out of it.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, they're giving tax breaks to the data centers.

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Speaker 1: These are our elected officials. He's not mad about what's

504
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: happening to you. He's not mad about how utility rate.

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00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: By the way he acts like utilities have been going up.

506
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: They have been going up. We've laid them out time

507
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Speaker 1: and time again on this program.

508
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Speaker 2: Even admitted and part of that that he doesn't pay

509
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: the bills. He had to ask his wife.

510
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a long thing. It was like two parts.

511
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: It was like, I don't know, maybe four minutes between

512
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 1: the two of them. So I had to cut it

513
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: down taking the stuff. But he was just just being

514
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: mad at us, But he doesn't give a damn about you.

515
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: He's mad at Rob and Casey and other I guess

516
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: other media outlets. So here's the deal, Grandpa corruption. If

517
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: you want to have a fight, you come to the

518
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: right place. Pal you want to get into it, say

519
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: no more. But instead of hiding behind your big, powerful

520
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: government desk.

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00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: Why don't you waltz your ass int here.

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00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: You can find us at forty Monument Circle and we'll

523
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: have the conversation for fifty thousand people to hear.

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Speaker 3: How about that at Soliday?

525
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 2: Do you see The Indiana Capitol Chronicle put out an

526
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: article the other day They said the state explorer's multi

527
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: year rate setting This is something that they're kicking around.

528
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: Rather than setting the utility rates every year, they're looking

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Speaker 2: at doing it three years in advance, based on forecast

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00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: and costs and revenues. But the hitch in this get

531
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: along is that with these data centers coming in, how

532
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: are they going to forecast that when they don't know

533
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: how much electricity they'll be using.

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Speaker 1: To steal a line from Doctor Evil and Austin Powers,

535
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: how about no, how about we're done paying more? How

536
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: about that's all we ever do in taxes and utility bills.

537
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: All we ever do, all these politicians ever do, is

538
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: demand more from us.

539
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: How about for once we get the break.

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00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: How about the big utility monopolies who you give everything to,

541
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: how about for once they take.

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00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: Care of it? This guy is so gross, Casey.

543
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: Here's another big story coming out of the utility world.

544
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: Is Blackrock in talks to buy AES.

545
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Speaker 3: I thought Blackrock got banned in the state of Indiana.

546
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: Did I imagine that Global Infrastructure Partners, owned by Blackrock

547
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: is close to acquiring AES for around thirty eight billion dollars?

548
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: I thought?

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00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: Yes? Is that why they.

550
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Engine Board votes to remove them from the Capitol Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: This is December of twenty This brain, Casey, I'll tell

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00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: you what.

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00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: So what does that mean here? For eight No no, no,

554
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: no no.

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00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: No no no wait wait wait wait no.

556
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: You're trying to point out your brain.

557
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, who else would have thought of that like that?

558
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: December sixteenth of twenty twenty four pingin Board votes to

560
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: remove Blackrock due to ESG violations. So our state government

561
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: kicking them out because of their bad behavior, and now

562
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: what they're about to require acquire potentially one of these utilities,

563
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Global and We're happens.

564
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: Global Infrastructure Partners, owned by black Rock, is close to

565
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: acquiring aes Core for around thirty eight billion.

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Speaker 1: I know there's some tenfoil hat people in this world

567
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: that have some wacky theories, but this idea of creating

568
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: this dystopian nineteen eighty four society, it appears to be

569
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: more and more accurate, in which the politicians are completely

570
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: in cahoots with these powerful financial institutions and mega corporations

571
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: that are going to price you out of the ability

572
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: to live any sort of decent, moderate middle class existence.

573
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: When those are your advocates, people like ed Solidad people

574
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: are supposed to be your advocates. And he's mad at

575
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 1: the media for standing up for you. Why isn't he

576
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: taking the approach that we're taking, which is people have

577
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: paid enough, it's time to figure out how to keep

578
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: the lights on without every year saying.

579
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Speaker 3: More and more and more and more, where does it end?

580
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Speaker 1: And then you couple it with look at who's trying

581
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Speaker 1: to buy these government these government sanctioned monopolies.

582
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Speaker 3: A group that's so bad the pension boards that get

583
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: out of here.

584
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard to believe why people feel the way about

585
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: their government that they do. So the offers stay for

586
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: Ed Soliday. No need to be a be a fake

587
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: tough guy behind your powerful government desk. No need to

588
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: be vague on who you're talking about. We all know

589
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: who you're talking about. So man up, waltz in here

590
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: and let's have the conversation. Bet that doesn't happen, Casey,

591
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: probably not.

592
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.

593
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's time to find out who's gonna win

594
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: our bets. Hammer is here from the Hammer and Nigel Show.

595
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: And if you'll recall Casey earlier this year, Hammer and

596
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: I when the Diddy convictions came down, correct, he got

597
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: the two lower ones. What's something with prostitution or something

598
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: like that. They're exporting prostitutes, which is seems a lot

599
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: like human sex trafficking. But you know anyway, you and

600
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: I then had a conversation because.

601
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: He was not allowed out.

602
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: He was he's forced to stay behind bars, and today

603
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: is his sentencing, and I said, I think there's no

604
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: way he's not going to do at least a year.

605
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: You think it's going to be under a year.

606
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 5: I took the under now here are the variables in

607
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: play here with our wager. And we've made this clear

608
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 5: from day one. No matter what the sentencing is today,

609
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 5: let's say the judge says five years, two years, whatever.

610
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 5: I don't think that he will spend three hundred and

611
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: sixty five days incarcerated.

612
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: I think they will release him early.

613
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: So the prosecutors, they're looking for a sentence of eleven

614
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: years and three months his way. His defense team insists

615
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: fourteen months is more adequate, and if it is fourteen months,

616
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: then it would be time served.

617
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that was the other thing. So we

618
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: and we're all planned by the same rules. And I

619
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: hate that we didn't come up with some wacky bet

620
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: like we normally do. But I am acknowledging time served

621
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: does not count. He's got to be in right the

622
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: pokey for three hundred and.

623
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 5: Sixty five dollars from today to day for right right,

624
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 5: whatever happens today, three hundred and sixty five days from now,

625
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 5: if he's still in jail, ROB wins.

626
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: If he's released early, I win.

627
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: Now.

628
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I believe that the and now maybe it's changed, But

629
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: I thought the federal guideline was eighty five you had

630
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: to do eighty five percent of the sentence.

631
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: That's the earliest you could get out.

632
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: So if he gives him six years, depending on how

633
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: long he's been in he'd have and time served and whatever,

634
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: he'd be eighty five percent of whatever that is. So

635
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: this judge seemed pretty pissed off at him during the trial.

636
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: That's what I was going off of. And I think

637
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: you may be the favorite to win the one. But again,

638
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: he's rich, he's famous, It's New York. Dudes have done

639
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: way worse and gotten out quicker.

640
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: Oh totally.

641
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: It's amazing though, with what appeared to be a just

642
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: massive amount of evidence, they could not convict him, right,

643
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: including the people giving the testimony about what they endured.

644
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: Right.

645
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 5: So based on that, that's why I took the under

646
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 5: like what the crappy charges they gave him, basically getting

647
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 5: him off the hook of the heavy stuff. That just

648
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 5: tells me that's going to continue to snowball into the

649
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 5: sentencing process.

650
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: So a famous criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor in

651
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: New York, he said he expects comes to receive roughly

652
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 2: four to five years in prison.

653
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: Okay, So that'll be close, depending on if they give

654
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: him time served because he's been behind bars for a while.

655
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: But anything, what's uh, I'd do some math here on

656
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: the fly, but I think pretty much eighteen months well yeah,

657
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: what like like sixteen months above his time served, and

658
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: I think I would win the bet ish I'm doing

659
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: math on the fly.

660
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: But again, it.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't cash until we actually see him serve the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I just goes halfway through next year, there'll be

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Speaker 5: like a news dump on a Friday. Oh, the judges said,

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Speaker 5: Diddy's rehability and goes out.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And none of us may even be here

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Speaker 3: in a year, so who knows? Who knows?

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Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of being here, you got a massive afternoon today.

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Speaker 3: We are so excited.

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Speaker 5: We're kind of going to where it all started for

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Speaker 5: the hammer In Nigel Show. One of the places coaches

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Speaker 5: Tavern Downtown Pennsylvania Street Diagonal from the Fieldhouse.

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Speaker 3: Ye man, come on, buy and hang out.

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Speaker 5: It's presented by the Long Drink, which is a specialty cocktail.

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Speaker 5: Ricky Fowlers one of the owners, the dude that was

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Speaker 5: Rooster and Maverick Miles.

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Speaker 3: Teller is one of the owners. And man, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a good time.

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00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: We want everybody down there, all of your audience, all

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00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 5: of our audience, come on down, let's pack the joint.

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Speaker 5: We got some surprises lined up for everybody today. And

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Speaker 5: also we had a big announcement yesterday, Rob We've got

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Speaker 5: a very special Halloween shirt now available at the Hammer

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Speaker 5: and Nigel Merchandise store.

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Speaker 3: It's fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should go check it out store dot Hammer and

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Speaker 1: Nigel dot com store dot Hammer and Nigel dot com.

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Speaker 3: You can just go into Google and type in Hammer

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Speaker 3: and Nigel store too, and it should bring it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's sort of an old man way of

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00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: telling people to do things now, right, Just yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: The new way would for the kids would be just

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Speaker 1: Google Hammer and Nigel store.

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Speaker 3: Cool pop up. How would you describe the shirt?

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Speaker 1: It's it's got a funny slogan. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give too much waggs. Want people go see it? No,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, we can't.

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Speaker 3: It says this is my the whole thing. Sure, okay.

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Speaker 1: It says this is my scary Halloween shirt. And it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a headshot of Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 3: Casey just saw it, Just see it.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 5: This is the perfect shirt for the month of October.

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Speaker 5: If you want to wear it to pass out candy

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Speaker 5: at home, if you've got a fun Halloween party you

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Speaker 5: want to go to, if you just want to tick

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Speaker 5: off the libs and your family, get this shirt now.

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Speaker 3: Man, this thing's gonna sell quickly.

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Speaker 5: So store dot Hammer at Nigel dot com or just

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Speaker 5: google Hammer and Nigel store and grab your This is

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Speaker 5: my scary Halloween shirt with that big awful grin of

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Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton's face.

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Speaker 3: And that's what you would greet the children with. That's

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Speaker 3: it's your too.

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Speaker 2: I like that you have a lady's cut shirt. So

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Speaker 2: many times, you know, oh, get the T shirt and

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Speaker 2: it's a big, boxy dude shirt. It just doesn't look

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Speaker 2: as good. You guys have a nice one.

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Speaker 3: We have ten the tops as well women.

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Speaker 5: Yea, the hoodies will be coming back once we eventually

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Speaker 5: get some fall weather.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be another warm week.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, man, we're loaded. We've got a new partner

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Speaker 5: at the store we work with. They get this stuff.

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Speaker 3: In and out.

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Speaker 5: You get your products so much faster, and I think

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Speaker 5: maybe we need to have some new Rob Kendle shirts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really pressing for the dirty Diego T shirt

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Speaker 1: and if the Hillary Clinton one does well, maybe we

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Speaker 1: can get a dirty Diego Morales T shirt with his

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Speaker 1: face on there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would single handedly keep you guys in

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Speaker 1: business just ordering those and sending them out to people.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 5: We need a fresher version, a more fresh version, rather

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Speaker 5: of the I hate Rob Kendalls.

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Speaker 1: Now you're pushing for the like a Rob Kendall Brownsburg

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Speaker 1: jersey to be sold.

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Speaker 5: I thought that'd be a fun pro Rob Kendall shirt,

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00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 5: like the Brownsburg style football jersey, and then just a

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Speaker 5: classic Rob Kendle sucks.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, I'm down with all of it, whatever

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Speaker 1: you need. All my money goes to charity, so I'll

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Speaker 1: be I'll be the butt of any joke for a

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Speaker 1: good cause. So hey, today three o'clock coaches Tavern, Get

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Speaker 1: your butts to Coaches Tavern. We're gonna have some long drinks.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have some beers, and man, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of energy.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sammer It is kendalln Casey on ninety three WIBC