1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Live from ball Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: I've been called a lot of things in my life, 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: a great number of things. 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: Some of them have actually been pleasant. 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: But never until I guess it was Friday, was I 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: called a stock Republican. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: That might be the rudest thing anybody's ever said about me. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, What is going on with you? 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: Eight three three four six eight eight six six' nine 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: eight three Three Got. 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Tony that's how you get to be a part of the. 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: Show live streaming on the YouTube YouTube dot com Slash Tony. 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Katz are On twitter X Tony, Katz, Facebook Tony Katz, 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: radio smoking The Monte cristo relentless right, now good cigar 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: for the. 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: Show this all. 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Goes back to an appearance With Sean, spicer WHO i 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: had on the show last, week AND i appeared on 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: his show last, week AND i like, SEANALOT i have 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: been very appreciative of the kindness and the outreach and everything. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: Else we were having a conversation about this very idea of, 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: affordability the affordability conversation now taking hold amongst the political. 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Right look What Mam donnie Did Zarn, mamdanni the mayor 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: elect In New, york about. 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: Affordability we got to be talking about. 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: Affordability well, yeah, yeah but more to the, point something 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: we've been saying here from the, beginning tariffs or. TAXES 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: i apologize to no, one including The, president for noting this. 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: Fact i'm not angry with The. PRESIDENT i think that 31 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: this overarching policy concept is. WRONG i believe targeted tariffs are. 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: SMART i believe tariffs is tactic or just. Fine tariffs's, 33 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: POLICY i think are a big hot. Mess and every 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: conversation of look at all the money that's pouring into the, 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: treasury it's our. 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: Money we're paying, it not these foreign. Nations they're. 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Not we. Are we're paying the. Tariff, now The president 38 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: does have some things on his side regarding the tariff, 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: conversation and that is it hasn't brought an end to 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: things the way people said it. 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: Would we've managed. 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: It it's kind of, amazing and it should be noted 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: we've managed the. TARIFFS i will say WHEN i Hear 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: President trump, say you know what we're gonna give everybody 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: who isn't a high net worth, INDIVIDUAL i don't know 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: what that number. Is, yet two thousand dollars from these tariff, 47 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: DOLLARS i, say. 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: Wouldn't have been better IF i didn't have to pay 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: the tariff to begin. With. 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: BETTER i don't want my government being benevolent and giving 51 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: me money. Back don't get me, WRONG i want money, 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: back But i'd rather you didn't take it from me at. 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: All that would be being more, benevolent which is also 54 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: not a WAY i should think about my own. Government 55 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: being An american tariffs as tactic makes. Sense you want 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: to Punch. 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: China right in the, mouth fine by. Me i'm all with. 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: You as a matter of, Fact i'll help you train 59 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: to do. It make sure we've got the proper. Rotation 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: we're utilizing the hip and getting all the energy in 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: there to hit jijinping. Square hit him so hard he'll 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: actually think he Is winnie The. Pooh i'm down for. 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: It i'm here for. IT i need tariffs Against. Switzerland 64 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: what The what the? HELL i just want to watch. 65 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: Some things we don't. 66 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: Need, well we've got a trade, imbalance and well we 67 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: buy more from them than they buy from. 68 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: Us, yes does it? Matter, well they're taking advantage of. 69 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: Us whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Whoa 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: the question is does it? Matter are you okay with? 71 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: It another way to say, this is there something you 72 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: get out of it that's actually. Beneficial so if they're 73 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: taking a little bit of advantage you over, here that's 74 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: okay because they're doing something over. There maybe they're getting 75 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: a better deal on us in one or two. 76 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: Things but maybe what. 77 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: They're getting a better deal on they're than reinvesting in. 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: Us and isn't that better? Off don't we want? That 79 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: not everything is isn't apples to apples. Conversation maybe we're 80 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: giving up, apples but we're getting bananas at? All holy, 81 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: hell could we use some? Bananas why can't we look 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: at things like? That isn't that a proper way to 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: engage these economic. ISSUES i don't like tariffs as a, 84 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: policy and tariffs are, Taxes AND i will say out 85 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: loud that people who won't admit to this are. Wrong they're. 86 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: Wrong they're. Taxes let's leave that. There in this conversation about, 87 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: affordability WHAT i have stated is some things do cost too, 88 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: much and it's a real. 89 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: Problem it's a real. 90 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Issue but on the subject of tariffs and on the 91 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: subjects of. COSTS i have said that The trump administration 92 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: needs to explain to people why these things are. Happening 93 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: they need to explain what the long term game. Is 94 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: in the, end The american people want to. Follow they 95 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: want to be involved in a fight that will make 96 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: their lives, better in their kids' lives, better In america's lives, 97 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: better or their kids themselves In. America, right we could 98 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 2: say it that. Way you got to get them, involved 99 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: you got to bring them, in you got to be 100 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: able to explain. It and this is WHAT i want 101 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: From Scott, bessett The Treasury. Secretary And i'm bothered by 102 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: the fact that he doesn't engage in this and wants 103 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: to tell us everything's. Fine everything isn't. Fine this was 104 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: the conversation that happened On Shawn spicer's. Show this is 105 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: What god. Said this comes From Steve bannon's War. Room 106 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: he's playing this clip From Shawn spicer's. 107 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: Show. 108 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: Listen i'm willing to go all the way with it 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: and set people a blaze in this, conversation but we should, 110 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: be at least at the start not. Insane this is 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: an off year election in blue. States there was built 112 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: in advantages for The democrats that were. Running as for 113 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: us missing, MESSAGING i will take this and not put 114 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: it on the consultant. 115 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: Class i'll put this. 116 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: On The Treasury Secretary Scott, besant who wants to keep 117 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: telling people that everything is going. 118 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: Great it isn't it's not, true it's not. 119 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: Real and thank GOODNESS i Heard President trump finally addressed this, 120 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: yesterday a, subject at least on, radio we've been addressing for. 121 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: Months beef prices are out of, control egg prices are, 122 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: down prices are, down but you. 123 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: Still feel like everything costs too. Much tariffs do increase 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: the cost of. 125 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: Things and The president may love the word, tariff the 126 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: most beautiful word in the, world it still costs us 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: more and we feel that it costs us. More so 128 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: the reality is you have to be addressing those concerns 129 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: and explaining why you're engaged in, tariffs why these things are. 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: Happening that's the stuff that. Matters you can't just say everything's. 131 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Fine That's Janet yellen saying that inflation is nothing more than, 132 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: transitory which was. Crap it was a, lie it was a. 133 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Fraud and when you go down that, road you win 134 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: the stupid. PRIZES i apologize for. NOTHING i said WHAT i, 135 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: said AND i stand by. It you got to explain 136 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: it to, people you got to bring them on. Board 137 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: but things are still too. High Steve, bennan WHO i 138 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: ADMITTEDLY i haven't spoken to in a great number of. 139 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: Years the last TIME i spoke About Steve, BENNON i, 140 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: said anybody Calling Steve bennon and Anti summite is out 141 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: of their. Heads you can say a lot of things 142 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: About steve Anti. Semite the most ridiculous THING i have 143 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: heard in a good long. Time this was a conversation 144 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: that came up a couple of years, ago maybe four years, 145 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: AGO i, think before he went to. 146 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: Jail it was. 147 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: RIDICULOUS i know people who Despise Steve betten and they're, like, 148 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: yeah that's just, silly because it was because it was Here's. 149 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: Steve, okay That's Tony. 150 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: KASM i, Remember tony is a talk radio host In, 151 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: Indianapolis indiana in a standard stock Classic. Republican this is 152 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 4: why he didn't want to blame the consulting, class who 153 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: is a. Lot the whole thing about the campaign the 154 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: other day was it wasn't that you lost in blue. 155 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: States we get that it was the scale of the 156 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: loss and across the country and other these districts and 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 4: quite frankly state assemblies and other things that we had 158 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: been shifting Dramatically, trump Particularly New. Jersey it's points on 159 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 4: the by it was consulting class doing going back With, 160 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: cituelli talking about tax cuts and talking about in the 161 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 4: size of, government just issues. 162 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: That are not top of mind right now with. 163 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: Residents and of course the disaster Of Glenn youngkin in 164 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: the destruction of The Republican party in The Comeworth, virginia 165 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: which is one hundred percent on his, shoulders with terrible, 166 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: candidates no, message just a joke and no. Effort but in, 167 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: course you you Know tony being a standard Stock republican 168 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: they hate tariffs right because they got, this they're the 169 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: free trade part of The Republican. Party that it was 170 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 4: kind of turfed out With President trump at. 171 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: Sixteen, NOW i did not SAY i was in love 172 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: with the consultant. 173 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: Class on this show, REPEATEDLY i have explained that the 174 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: consultants are a serious. PROBLEM i have talked About Ron 175 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: DeSantis two one hundred million dollars plus of a war, 176 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: chest and that guy couldn't get a first place finish 177 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: In iowa Or New, hampshire and these. 178 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: Consultants are gonna get rehired. 179 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: PLACES i didn't say buy into the consultants or believe the. Consultant, 180 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: STEVE i never said. It you want to talk about a? 181 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: MISREAD i would Argue, steve he did it, purposefully WHICH 182 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: i don't know. Why my argument Is Scott besson's is 183 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: stronger and tougher and smarter than the consultant, class and 184 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: he should be the one addressing these issues directly and 185 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: Helping President trump with the messaging that is so incredibly 186 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: necessary here. 187 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,359 Speaker 3: You, THINK i think. 188 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: That the consultant class was really there to Help shitarelly 189 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: and not get some points on the Buy what the 190 00:10:54,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: hell are you talking, About, Steve, Steve, steven what the 191 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: hell are you talking? 192 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: About? Son of course that's a. Problem of course it's a. 193 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: Problem BUT i expect more From Scott, besson WHO i 194 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: think is the smartest guy in the. ROOM i want 195 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: him to be, STRONGER i want him to be, TOUGHER 196 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: i wanted to be more. FOCUSED i want him to 197 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: help lead the messaging so everybody else gets the. Message 198 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: he understands he's smarter than the. Rest he was an 199 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: inspired pick From Donald, trump and he isn't doing WHAT 200 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: i think he can, do which is the inspired work 201 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: of sharing the. Story, also all of a, sudden we 202 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: don't like free? Markets is that the difference between the 203 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: conservative and the? Populist? Okay DID i say we should be? 204 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: Abused DID i say we should accept business as? 205 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: Usual? NO i asked the question. 206 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: Of whether or not Tariff a's policy is a good, 207 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: idea and the answer is it's. Not we should be, 208 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: focused we should be engaged with this over, here and 209 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: with this over, here not some blanket policy of nonsense. 210 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 3: Tariffs it's a tax on. Us And i'm not interested 211 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: in taxing. 212 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: Us and if that's the populist view of making something, 213 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: better well THEN i Think, steve with all due, respect 214 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: that view holy. Sex let's do something, smarter let's do something. 215 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: Better BUT i will tell you. 216 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: Stock. Republican, oh that is just cold. Hearted that is cold. 217 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: HEARTED i could think of things you could call my 218 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: mother that would be less insulting than Stock. 219 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: Republican that's just that's just, Mean. Steve. Mean but you 220 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: got it. 221 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: Wrong then you got it, wrong and you have it 222 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: and it's about making this argument that somehow one can't 223 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: be focused and. Tough the key lesson Of trump is 224 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: that one must, fight because if you allow these people 225 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: to say there's only one way to do things and 226 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: they're the only ones who know the way to do, 227 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: things then dear, gosh you're going to. 228 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: Lose we talk about the shutdown and The democrats. 229 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: Caving the great great story from, here and the thing 230 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: THAT i think can absolutely change a mentality is That 231 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: republicans didn't capitulate when everybody thought they. Would in a shutdown, 232 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: situation everyone Thought republicans, would and they did. It you're, like, 233 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: well oh my, goodness maybe the lesson is finally being. 234 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: Learned rather than trying to pretend you Are trump doing 235 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: a cheap imitation Of, trump how about you just stand 236 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: firm on a philosophy and a. PRINCIPLE i think you 237 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: can engage good trade deals without a universal. TARIFFS i 238 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: didn't say you couldn't use tariffs as a. Tactic everything 239 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: you said, There steve is. Wrong, everything not a little 240 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: bit of, it but a whole stinking bunch of. It 241 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: and for The Treasury Secretary Scott, besson, Oh i'd love 242 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: to have you on the show and have this conversation. 243 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: DIRECTLY i will not shy, away. Sir i'll tell you 244 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: WHAT i think you could tell me why you. Disagree 245 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: maybe you do agree with, Me maybe you have got 246 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: serious reason to disagree with, me and you've got things 247 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: THAT i haven't thought. About i've already, stated conceding the 248 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: point that. 249 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: On the economics you're smarter THAN i. 250 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: Am But tarrif's are, taxes and if we can't agree to, 251 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: that well then we've got a serious. 252 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: Problem But i'm, listening the audience is. Listening we're all right. 253 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: Here love to have you, On Secretary, besson love to 254 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: talk to you about these. 255 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: Things when you put your. 256 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: Into the, world and you put your ideas into the, 257 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: world and you are willing to, engage you have to 258 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: accept the fact that some people aren't going to agree with. 259 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: You and when you do it the WAY i do, 260 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: it WHERE i voted For trump three, times YET i 261 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: still reserve the right to. DISAGREE i accept the fact 262 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: that there are gonna be people who come at me and, 263 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: say you're not, Loyal you're not, This you're not. That 264 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: allow me to define the loyal thing for. YOU i 265 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: did not vote For President trump out of loyalty to. 266 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: HIM i voted For President trump out of what was 267 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: best for my children and me In. 268 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: America WHAT i want is the job. Done the loyalty 269 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: goes the other. Way it's not me To President, trump 270 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: and It's President trump to. 271 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: Me the, voter me The American AND i believe actually 272 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: The President trump sees it that. Way the one THING 273 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: i know about that, man and he has said that quite, 274 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: clearly he doesn't mind a tough. Question he just wants 275 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: it to be. Fair AND i think my commentary is 276 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: more than. Fair AND i apologize to no one And 277 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: steve anytime you want to, talk, Man i'm right. Here 278 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: but Stock, republican that's just Downright. Chili it's a load of. 279 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Crap but damn is that cold On Tony. Katz and 280 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: this Is Tony katz. 281 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 5: TODAY i will Note senator that given two, opportunities you 282 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: did not voice. 283 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Your unequivocal support For Chuck. 284 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: Schumer but his, job at least for the, moment is not. 285 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 6: Over if this compromise plan does. 286 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 7: Lead to the, troublement, WELL i will Say Chuck schumer 287 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 7: and the leadership of The senate are dealing with an 288 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 7: incredibly complex situation. 289 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 6: Where you know it's hard to find a way, out 290 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 6: BUT i am going to continue to fight for my 291 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 6: constituents and The american people to just make life affordable for. 292 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: Them thank goodness you're, Here Senator Mark, kelly that you're 293 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: now going to focus on how to make life. Affordable 294 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: this should be the part two conversation regarding the. Shutdown 295 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: where the hell were you for four years Of Joe 296 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: biden allegedly running the. Country where were you When Johnny 297 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: ellen was telling us that inflation was? 298 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: Transitory where were you when we. 299 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: Were, saying look at the price of, everything and there 300 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: was The biden administration cheering that the fourth Of july 301 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: barbecue was down by eighteen. CENTS i won't take a 302 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: lecture from The Democratic party about costs about. Anything four 303 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: years Of joe sitting in The Oval office pretending that 304 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: he was in charge because he clearly wasn't in. Charge 305 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: the autopen was in charge ten, percent the autopen was in, 306 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: charge which whoever means whoever was running the autopen was in. 307 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: Charge and now you're going to tell us about. 308 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: Affordability this is where. 309 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: The conversation needs to have a both a starting to 310 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: stop focusing on the cost of, things focusing on that economic. 311 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: Message that's, Smart that's what matters to. People, Right CAN 312 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: i afford the basics with my? Family but to be 313 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: lectured to by people who had four years Of Joe 314 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: biden said nothing and told us we were crazy for 315 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: not noticing what a great economy it. Was sit down 316 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: if you. Would I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz. 317 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: Today so the, Shutdown you've got a lot Of democrats 318 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how they're going to spin this. 319 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: Thing right, here Some republicans have been saying The democrats 320 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: benefited during the, election the recent election by the shutdown 321 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: and helped. 322 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: Them did that play a role at? All you think 323 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: in the way The democrats have handled this? Shutdown the 324 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: central issue in this election was. 325 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: Affordability people are really deeply hurt and angry about the 326 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 5: increasing prices of, electricity, food. 327 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 8: Rent, everything including, healthcare. 328 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 5: And the affordability of healthcare insurance certainly was on their. 329 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: Minds, no it. Wasn't now wait a, second. 330 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: This is the same, Guy Richard, blumenthal who lied about 331 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: his service In. Vietnam he said he, served he. Didn't Tony, 332 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: Katz Tony katz, TODAY i also did not serve In, 333 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: vietnam but at LEAST i can be honest about. It 334 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: he's the one who said he wanted this to keep, 335 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: going he wanted this to keep. Happening and now he's gonna, say, well, see, 336 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: really this was all about. Healthcare this was top and 337 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: top and key to The american. People this was the 338 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: major focus of The american. People that's not. True that 339 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: was not the case at, all although you could argue 340 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: there are some people who focus on. 341 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: It Speaker Mike johnson had this to say this, morning. 342 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 8: Everybody i'm very thankful to see. 343 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: You all this. 344 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 8: Morning i'm thankful to welcome you To but appears to 345 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 8: be the beginning of the end of the longest government 346 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 8: shut down IN us. History as shameful as that, IS 347 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 8: i don't think it's, coincidental you know HOW i. Think 348 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 8: but it's after forty days of wandering in the wilderness 349 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 8: and making The american people suffer, needlessly Some Senate democrats 350 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 8: finally have stepped forward to end the. Pain it appears 351 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 8: to us this morning that our long national nightmare is 352 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 8: finally coming to an, end and we're grateful for. That 353 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 8: at least Some democrats now finally appear ready to do 354 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 8: What republicans And President trump and millions of hard Working 355 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 8: american people have been asking them to do for. Weeks 356 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 8: but as we said from the, beginning the people's government 357 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 8: cannot be held hostage to further anyone's political. Agenda that 358 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 8: was never, right and shutting down the government never produces. 359 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 8: Anything it never has if you study, History and so 360 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 8: here we. ARE i want to remind everybody this morning 361 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 8: of another critical point that you've heard me here repeat 362 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 8: over and over over the last several. Weeks it's something 363 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 8: THAT i And Leader John, thune And President trump and 364 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 8: Every republican leader have all said repeatedly from the. Beginning 365 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 8: we have always been open to finding solutions to reduce 366 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 8: the oppressive costs of health care under The Unaffordable Care. 367 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 8: Act we just made clear that we would not and 368 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 8: should not ever do that that, is negotiate as. Hostages 369 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 8: And i've also reminded you here every morning at this press. 370 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 8: Conference throughout the, Shutdown republicans have not just been talking 371 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 8: about reducing costs and fraud and abuse in so many 372 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 8: areas and in, Healthcare we've been actually passing new laws 373 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 8: to accomplish that urgent mission for the, people and we 374 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 8: will continue to do. 375 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: So i'm okay with the hostage. 376 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: Conversation some people have kind of taken objection to this 377 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: because you take a look at what hamastad that really were. 378 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: Hostages maybe we shouldn't be utilizing the word. Hostages it's 379 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: the political, parlance AND i think it's quite all. RIGHT 380 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 2: i don't see it as an issue at. All there 381 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: is no question that The Republican party held firm and 382 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: there's no question that the conversation regarding subsidies could have 383 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: happened at any. Time you didn't need. This we here 384 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: SAID i said it on this. SHOW i Think trump's 385 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: gonna extend the. SUBSIDIES i think he. WOULD i think 386 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: he'd be in favor of, it because he wants to 387 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: talk about how he's keeping cost slow and he's already 388 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: going after healthcare. Companies he's already discussing. It look what 389 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: he's doing With pfizer And lily and This trump Are x, 390 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: stuff and this is all part of his. METHODOLOGY i 391 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 2: don't favor the subsidies For obamacare at, all But i'm 392 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: Probably i'm, PROBABLY i believe gonna lose that. FIGHT i 393 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: Hope I'm i'm. WRONG i really truly Hope i'm. Wrong 394 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: but then you get people Like Senator marquis Of. 395 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 5: Massachusetts Mister, president our dedicated federal workers deserve to get. 396 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 5: Paid And i'm glad this steal means that the government will, 397 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 5: reopen that public servants will be returning to, work and 398 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 5: that they will receive their, paychecks including back. Pay And 399 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 5: i'm also pleased that this deal will Prevent Donald trump 400 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: from further delaying staff benefits for hungry, children senior, citizens and, 401 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 5: families using hungry people as political, pawns which is What 402 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 5: Donald trump has been. 403 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: Doing it's what The democrats have been, doing And democrats 404 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: are still advocating. For if you don't favor opening up the, 405 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: government you favor starving. Children this is what you, Favor Senator. 406 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: Marquee Not trump who's been begging not only for the 407 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: government to be, open but he Wanted republicans to blow 408 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: up the. Filibuster so what? Happened it is, You Senator. 409 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: Marquee we see, You we know. 410 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: You're lying to. 411 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: Us everybody, listening everybody watching is fully aware that you're. 412 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: Lying what what makes you think we don't notice? Now 413 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: you're based there In. Massachusetts they don't. Notice my, gosh 414 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: they don't notice. Anything they're. Blinded but the rest of, 415 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: us who ARE i don't, know normal, people we. 416 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 3: Notice is. 417 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: Disgusting but this legislation does, nothing nothing concrete to lower 418 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: costs or protect healthcare for millions Of americans from Maga republican. 419 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: Attacks there's twenty two Million americans Maga. 420 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: Republicans, okay so you got together with The King. JEFFRIES 421 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: i don't. Know it was probably a late night sleepover 422 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: and you were doing each other's. Nails, Like, okay we're 423 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: gonna keep calling them Maga, republicans, Right we're just keep 424 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 2: saying Maga. Republicans, OH i love what we call. Them 425 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: Maga republicans would be LIKE i Assume Ed marquis said would. 426 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: Be i'm not one hundred percent. Sure this is just an. 427 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: Assumption that was nothing more than an. IMPRESSION i only 428 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: HOPE i got it. 429 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: Right who are going to see traumatic increases in their 430 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 5: health care costs at the end of this, year twenty 431 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: two Million americans who are going to be very. 432 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: Concerned about the healthcare all of their. 433 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: Families You Senator marquis and You democrats agreed to have 434 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: the subsidies For obamacare sunset at the end of twenty twenty. 435 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: Five you did this. 436 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: For those of us who got screwed By, obamacare AND 437 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: i should, say for the, Record i'm not one of, 438 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: them SO i shouldn't save those of us for those 439 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: people who got screwed By, obamacare screwed by the lie 440 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: of if you like your, doctor you can keep your, 441 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: doctor and if you like your, plan you can keep your. 442 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: Plan and are now paying really and truly for other, 443 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: people including people here legally in far too many. 444 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: Cases this is all just ugly and an. 445 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: Abomination, NOW i have Seen republicans talk about still Removing 446 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: obamacare and Removing obamacare and Removing. Obamacare you gotta have a, 447 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: plan Right President trump putting out on true Social obamacare. 448 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: Sucks it's what he wrote Big capital, letters the worst 449 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: healthcare for the highest. 450 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: Price, sir all you have to do is put out 451 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: a better. Plan we can get rid of. This let's 452 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: go do. It let's go do. It now you say to, 453 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: me why do you need a better? Plan that's my. 454 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: MESSAGE i believe you need the, market the same market 455 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 2: That Steve batton wants to attack me about, SUPPORTING i 456 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: believe is what we. Need how do you utilize market 457 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: principles and market force is to be able to have 458 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: a better. System, NOW i should at least start from 459 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: the basis of Where i'm at on all. 460 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: THIS i have. 461 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: A serious issue with the idea of health insurance as a. 462 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: Whole, FIRST i would say to, you that, is IF 463 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: i have. 464 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: The history right hospitals and health. Insurance this Was this 465 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: was a conversation regarding the depression and how to keep 466 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: hospitals up and. Running, NOW i may not be perfect on, 467 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: there BUT i Think i'm slightly solid on that. Ground 468 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: but the problem with insurance is that we treat the 469 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: medical care of ourselves somehow differently than we treat the 470 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: idea of going to the mechanic for our. CAR i 471 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: go to a, MECHANIC i need new. Breaks there's a 472 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: price for the. BREAKS i can go to another mechanic 473 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: IF i THINK i can get a lower, price OR 474 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: i can go to this mechanic AND i pay the. 475 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: Mechanic insurance wasn't. Involved, now there are arguments to be, 476 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: made but as a matter of just a baseline, conversation 477 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: why is it we don't treat healthcare in this. Way 478 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: why is it that healthcare we accept the idea of 479 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: this false economy where the aspirin if we're in the, 480 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: hospital costs six hundred and seventy four, dollars but if 481 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: we have insurance it's fifty two. 482 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: Cents it seems to. 483 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: Me from a very very thirty thousand foot, overview insurance 484 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 2: is a completely false, economy and we buy into, This 485 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: we play into, This we think that there's something good 486 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: about this or worthy about, this and it's just. 487 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: Silly the system itself is. 488 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Silly and then you Said obamacare was the, answer because 489 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: really what you want is universal health. Care you want 490 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: government run. Healthcare and there's no Way i'm giving government 491 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: run healthcare because you Said obamacare was going to lower, 492 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: costs and then you said we had to offer subsidies 493 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: to Ensure. Obamacare and now you want to sit here 494 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: and lecture me about the people who are going to 495 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: pay more if they don't have the. Subsidies AND i 496 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: do not argue that there are some people are going 497 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: to pay more and it's going to hurt. THEM i, 498 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: argue why is it you are so cavalier about a 499 00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: system that doesn't. Work that's the. Question why are you 500 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: so cavalier about? 501 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: THIS i cannot support this. 502 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 5: DEAL i cannot support a deal that does not say 503 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 5: to those twenty two Million american, families including three hundred 504 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 5: and thirty seven thousand of them in the state Of, 505 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 5: massachusetts that we have not been able to reach an 506 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 5: agreement here Because republicans refuse to come to the. 507 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Table the vote On obamacare subsidies is going to happen 508 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: after the Continuing resolution is. 509 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: Passed, You Senator, marquee aren't voting for, This. 510 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: So you favor children not Getting snap benefits and mom 511 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: and dad not being. 512 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: Paid that's what you. Favor i'm glad you're going to 513 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: lose this. 514 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: VOTE i hope you lose this, vote AND i hope 515 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: the people In massachusetts understand that you don't have a. 516 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: Plan you have nothing more than whining and. Complaining you 517 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: would rather her children starve then pass to keep the government. 518 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: Open that's pretty. Gross, Indeed I'm Tony, katz and this 519 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: Is Tony katz, today yet another university involved in really 520 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: trying to tell students that they shouldn't like each. Other Tony, 521 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: Katz Tony katz, today this Is Indiana. UNIVERSITY a lecturer 522 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: at The school Of Social work. 523 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: Removed from teaching the. 524 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: Class the Class, Diversity Human rights And Social. 525 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: Justice good, gosh that's a. 526 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: Class but the story here is that the, Teacher Jessica, 527 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: adams the, lecturer thinks that she should be able to 528 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: bring these ideas into the. Classroom what are the. Ideas 529 00:32:49,040 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: the ideas are that you should be able to say 530 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: things like covert white supremacy is Make america great. 531 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: Again it's on this little. 532 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: Chart and by the, way the chart that they're sharing 533 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: in the news stories about this story isn't the chart 534 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: that's actually used in the, classroom BECAUSE i know the 535 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: chart that they've been using in the. Classroom so this 536 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: teacher teaches this, bigotry police murdering people of color is white, 537 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: supremacy as if cops are just going around attacking people 538 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: who are. 539 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Black, garbage. Nonsense we know, this. 540 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: And so complaints were. Made it went to Actually Senator 541 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Jim banks Of. Indiana he reached out TO. Iu this 542 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: lecture is taken. Out this lecturer is still doing other. 543 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: Classes and the question For Indiana, university in any, university 544 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: is why why would you have someone in there who 545 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: wants to teach that you're guilty for the color of your, 546 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: skin or you're oppressed for the color of your, skin 547 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: not once actually entertaining the idea that the individual. Matters 548 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: it's all, collective, this that and the. Other that's not. 549 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: Education that's, hate and we shouldn't support, it and we 550 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: should throw it out of the universities as. 551 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: Quickly as we. 552 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: Can one, class, no, no. No Jessica, adams in my, 553 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: view should be removed from all classes and anyone Like 554 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm Tony katz