WEBVTT - A Different World

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<v Speaker 1>The frames per second podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on it's your boy nick and i am

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<v Speaker 2>here with two-thirds of dead end hip-hop uh i guess

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<v Speaker 2>foundation production side all of it uh we are here

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<v Speaker 2>with kenneth bianch hola how you doing man good and

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<v Speaker 2>i'm here with super producer j aka doc how you

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<v Speaker 2>doing sir i'm solid bro you I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>You're now tuned in to the Frames Per Second podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And in this episode, we are recapping the first season

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<v Speaker 2>of the rebooted Netflix somewhat original series. I say somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a famous reboot. So I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if I want to give Netflix credit with that original.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are recapping the first season of A Different World.

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<v Speaker 2>Starring Jasmine Guy. Kadeem Hardison. I forgot the woman's name.

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<v Speaker 3>Jay, you know the woman's name?

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<v Speaker 4>The daughter. Yeah, the daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know none.

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<v Speaker 4>Of their names. I ain't even looking for their names.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't got a lot to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Nonetheless, it's a different world, but the Netflix version, the

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<v Speaker 2>first season. And I guess I want to kind of... Well,

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<v Speaker 2>first I want to ask, Ken, what is your history

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<v Speaker 2>with the original show? Did you watch it while it

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<v Speaker 2>was happening or did you re-watch it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I watched while it was happening. I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>in real time. So, yeah, man, it's childhood memories, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of early formative years, very influential in terms of, like, college, HBCUs,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, I haven't done a rewatch.

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<v Speaker 1>I know my wife is on a rewatch around here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't rewatched it. uh, shit since it was out,

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<v Speaker 1>since it, since the original and since it ended. But, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Love different world.

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<v Speaker 3>Jay, what about you? Uh, I know you, you rewatched it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you wasn't. Of course.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually, my rewatch was, uh, like in undergrad. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't really, I didn't watch it even.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched the Cosby show growing up, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>watch a different world. Um, But I remember in undergrad

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<v Speaker 5>going back to watch it because there were themes happening

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<v Speaker 5>on campus that they were using a different world for.

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<v Speaker 5>And then people would talk about different characters and I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't really have the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Of who they were.

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<v Speaker 5>I just knew about Dwayne and Whitley. People just talk

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<v Speaker 5>about it. But I didn't know the details. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I watched it in undergrad and It's cool. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>attached to it like everybody else is. I'm really not

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<v Speaker 5>still really attached to it. I think it's a good show.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a great show, but it's just I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>the attachment to it anymore. I'm more attached to Cosby's

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<v Speaker 5>show because it was on all the time growing up

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<v Speaker 5>than I was in a different world.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting because for me, I grew up with the Cosby's.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I think the Cosby's show is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those shows that even if it wasn't a black family,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just that popular. You just were aware of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact that it was a black family, it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Made you look at it at the time

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<v Speaker 2>when he wasn't seeing shit like that. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know about A Different World until I got older,

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<v Speaker 2>like high school. I want to say high school, late

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<v Speaker 2>high school, early college. And once I watched it, because

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it in random episodes. It wasn't like I

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<v Speaker 2>watched it really in chronological order. But I still was

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<v Speaker 2>able to understand the transitions from now. The first season

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<v Speaker 2>was with Marissa Tomei. To how everything kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>revamped a little bit moving forward and focused not off

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<v Speaker 2>of Denise Huxtable, but Dwayne Wayne. And then how they

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<v Speaker 2>grew up and then became more of like older adults.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they brought in Jada Pinker in them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like I ended up eventually basically kind

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<v Speaker 2>of putting the puzzles together and figuring out what it was.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this show is better than Cosby's show. I

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<v Speaker 5>think this show hits.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine watching it in real time, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to Tupac being on the show. One of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite episodes is the Gladys Knight episode because I

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<v Speaker 2>just love that Love of a Boy song they did.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just feel like this show just hits harder

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<v Speaker 2>for what the themes that the Cosby show wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get to during the latter part when they brought in

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<v Speaker 2>Erica Alexander.

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<v Speaker 3>When she played the cousin and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were trying to get more into the hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you could tell Cosby didn't want to do hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>So he just said jazz. So like, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they were trying to reach though too. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a different world came at a point and

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<v Speaker 2>just like really showcase like what the nineties that I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up was about more than the Cosby show, even

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<v Speaker 2>though that was a great show about a black family.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is shows about black culture. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it was. It was just more about like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>what do black people do? do and deal with in America.

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<v Speaker 2>So hearing about the reboot, I'm like, it will never

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<v Speaker 2>live up to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. I started off knowing. I was like, this

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<v Speaker 3>ain't going to be that. I already know it. I

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<v Speaker 3>love Debbie Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>I love everybody who was a part of the original cast,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was lightning in the bottle. You're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to recapture that, but I like the attempt of at

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<v Speaker 2>least trying. So going into this, I got to get

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<v Speaker 2>y'all overall thoughts. What did y'all think about A Different

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<v Speaker 2>World 2026?

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<v Speaker 4>You go, Ken. Go, Ken. this show was god awful.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do that don't do that don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry man like this shit was pathetic like they

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<v Speaker 1>should have just called it something else bro like it

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<v Speaker 1>was it's so bad and and Like there's friends, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of the family that watched the show and

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<v Speaker 1>they liked it and they said it was good. And

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<v Speaker 1>they said there was some things that they didn't, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like and stuff like that. But when I started watching,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how am I going to get through this?

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<v Speaker 1>Cause I just started yesterday and I'm glad you told

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<v Speaker 1>me it was like 30 minutes, 20 some minutes episode. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but this, this didn't even come close, close to the original, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a different world.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't even... It was nowhere near.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't even touch. It didn't capture any of the vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>the essence, or anything. There's nothing on this show that

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<v Speaker 1>made me want to go to an HBCU.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah, man. I don't know what they were thinking when

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<v Speaker 4>they did this. I get it. It's IP, so let's

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<v Speaker 4>try to capture it and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have some questions that depending on what you asked,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into later, but the actors couldn't act. The

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<v Speaker 1>writing was terrible. It was very, very predictable. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really any drama. It was like, it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it was, it was really a episode filled

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of participation trophies for shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything fucking worked out. Everything fucking worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>So a show like watching this show kind of made

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<v Speaker 1>sense with some of the way the generation is today.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, Everything's going to be fine, bro. Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do that now. You do a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like... Yeah, it was pathetic, bro. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how people like this show.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a thing that you said that made me really

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<v Speaker 2>think about it and reflect, but I feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>anticipation for this was going to be stronger than the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, again, like I was saying, it's lightning in the bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't recapture that. There's only been a few shows

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<v Speaker 2>that have like insecure, like trying to do a reboot

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<v Speaker 2>of insecure 20 years from now is going to be like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>this ain't that.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Atlanta 30 years from now. You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, it's just lightning in the bottle. You

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<v Speaker 2>just had to be there and kind of understand and

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<v Speaker 2>experience it. But to me, Jay, the issue that I,

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<v Speaker 2>the only issue I would have, because I love the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that this show is here and it's not that bad, kid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that it's not that great. That's all it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's not that bad. I'm saying like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be, you can't compare it to the

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<v Speaker 2>original show or even thinking it's going to be touching that.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're always doing it, there's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a huge gap, but it ain't bad. It's not trash.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that this just seems like, Jay, did you

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<v Speaker 2>watch the Dear White People show on Netflix?

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's just like, y'all basically just did Dear

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<v Speaker 2>White People, but just made it an HBCU instead of PWI.

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<v Speaker 2>Cause it just, it just didn't feel like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's just the nostalgia of the nineties, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking like a different world had its own

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<v Speaker 2>character to it to where it was like, you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>characters go through their day. Like you mentioned, Ken, the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that stood out to me, he was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>did not make me want to go to HBCU. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is the first few episodes about how hard it is

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<v Speaker 2>to be at an HBCU as a black student? Like

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about finding like money. I can't get no

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<v Speaker 2>money for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm unorganized. I can't even get a room. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>get that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, that can be a part of the experience

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<v Speaker 2>and i'm gonna get up jay i know you probably

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<v Speaker 2>heard some of your friends go some similar shit i

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<v Speaker 2>have ken you may have too but save that for

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<v Speaker 2>season two like or like let's can you establish the

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<v Speaker 2>love for the show first like they are they talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how much they kind of like him is just

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up they got uh what's the black woman's name

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<v Speaker 2>who's a legend um they kicked around they said she

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<v Speaker 2>was embezzling.

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<v Speaker 3>And shit uh I ain't like that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, bro, why are you making Hillman look

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<v Speaker 2>like this?

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<v Speaker 3>Were they broke, Ken? The way, the way... That nigga

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<v Speaker 3>said a hundred... Nick, a hundred million. In debt.

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<v Speaker 1>$ 100 million.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get $ 100 million and $ 1 to get

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the ring.

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<v Speaker 3>They ain't got no money. They couldn't go with a

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<v Speaker 3>low number, bro. They couldn't go like be $ 10 million

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<v Speaker 3>in debt. Them niggas said $ 100 million. They threw a

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<v Speaker 3>nasty number.

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<v Speaker 1>Insurmountable and somehow it managed to work out. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>another issue I have with the show. It worked out

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>But those... and what you're talking about is another issue

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<v Speaker 4>I have with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Show is like, like those are real issues that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>but they threw in, it's like every single thing they

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<v Speaker 1>could find on black Twitter that people were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We just going to dump it in the show and,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just going to put it in here and

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<v Speaker 1>pack it in here.

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<v Speaker 4>And, and it is going to be what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like, when I'm watching this, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the writing and some of the dialogue, I mean, shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, hell, Could A.I. have been any worse?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, shit. I ain't do all that. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all I'm saying, Jay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I'm saying. I got to put, like, you

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<v Speaker 3>cannot like the show, but you can't say it's trash, kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on. I guess I can.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't ask me how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be honest. And, you know, it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like it was written by A.I. They were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the shit in the show, Nick. They acknowledged it as this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's too bad. Jay, how you feel about it? Nick,

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<v Speaker 5>I got a question for you.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, God.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even like your questions. I never like your questions,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way. How you feel about Grown-ish?

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<v Speaker 2>Grown-ish is B minus, what's it, Black-ish? C plus Black-ish,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm being honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Then this is a D. with a Netflix budget. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all it is.

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<v Speaker 5>They had music that I knew that I fuck with,

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<v Speaker 5>but it didn't make sense when some of the songs

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<v Speaker 5>were being played.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, why this song playing? Y'all just giving

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<v Speaker 3>niggas checks.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I'm happy y'all giving niggas checks, but it

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<v Speaker 5>makes no sense for these songs to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Real talk, I had to Shazam some of them songs.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, they got a nice playlist on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I knew a good amount of them.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, this is good music, but at the

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<v Speaker 5>same time, it don't belong here. Why is this here? Like,

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<v Speaker 5>That was an issue for me, bro. You can't do

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<v Speaker 5>this format in 30 minutes, 10 minutes, I mean 10 episodes, bro.

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<v Speaker 5>Every storyline was rushed. You want me to feel something,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's rushed. Like, it made no sense. Because even

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<v Speaker 5>with the, when you think about a different world, like, storylines,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, they went over different episodes. So they're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to have those same type of episodes and those type of, like,

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<v Speaker 5>feels at the end of each episode.

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<v Speaker 3>But you rushing it, bro. There's no character.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, I have no investment into these characters. And it

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<v Speaker 5>was just very much blah. There's some interesting things here

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<v Speaker 5>that they used as, like, seeds. But it's like, y'all

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<v Speaker 5>are rushing all this. You can't do this in... Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>if the episodes were an hour long. But you can't

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<v Speaker 5>do it because of the difference. You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it was just... Yeah, because the original was only

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<v Speaker 3>half an hour episodes. And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was because of the nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 2>And the woman's name, I should never forget her name,

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Lewis. They made Jennifer Lewis look crazy in this.

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<v Speaker 3>But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what it is about how 30-minute TV shows

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<v Speaker 2>are now.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right, Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>They're either written as to be rushed. and maybe that's because,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of this shit is real, especially with Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>They always talk. I think Ben Affleck talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, we have to keep introducing the plot

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<v Speaker 2>and things because we know people are watching shit on

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<v Speaker 2>their phones or they're on their phone while watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, I definitely will. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that goes with like how the, how certain stories are told.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's not time for you to be like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to kick it with this. It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like Game of Thrones where they kick, we

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<v Speaker 2>kicked it with, um, uh, what was her name? Um,

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<v Speaker 2>the main, the woman who got, shit. Basically, we kicked

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<v Speaker 2>it with a character for a full episode where we

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<v Speaker 2>were just in their perspective, in their world, no pun intended.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I feel like now it was like we

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<v Speaker 2>had to, oh, let's cut to this character for five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's cut to this character for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's cut to this character.

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<v Speaker 2>And then while we're cutting to these characters, this covers

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<v Speaker 2>us in this demographic of the Black community. This covers

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<v Speaker 2>us in this demographic for the Black community.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, this is going on in current events and we

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<v Speaker 5>need to let y'all be aware of this in current events.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just like, it wasn't like, Bruh, like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to... That's what I'm saying. And maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't know they was going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>second season. Because I saw the promotion that they... They

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<v Speaker 2>was dancing to Submotion, kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I was seeing the video where they found out they

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<v Speaker 3>got great lip for season two. It was like, they

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<v Speaker 3>were just.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they were just like, let's make sure

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<v Speaker 2>we throw everything against the wall. So if they do

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<v Speaker 2>cancel us, we can say, you don't like black shows.

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<v Speaker 3>The way they ended this, they knew they were swinging

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<v Speaker 3>for a second season. They will swing it. Of course

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<v Speaker 3>they will swing it. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we have so many plot lines that you

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<v Speaker 2>can go through in the second season. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like what Lou always talks about. He was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you queuing me up for season two when

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't even finished season one? Like you said, Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>I fuck with Deborah because she's Dwayne's kid. It's either like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to do a reboot, either do a continuation,

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<v Speaker 2>like we pick up right where Dwayne Wade and them

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<v Speaker 2>left off, or we just like, We can't have them

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<v Speaker 2>be that heavily focused in the show because their storyline

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<v Speaker 2>was way more interesting than what the kids was going through.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm keeping it a bean can, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know why Whitley and Dwayne's marriage ain't working.

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<v Speaker 3>When Byron came through, you know, Papa Joe, bro. Papa Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>When his shoulders start shaking, he be cussing somebody out.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's because you have an attachment to those... you

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<v Speaker 5>got an attachment to the character, those characters.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't give us enough time to have an investment

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<v Speaker 5>in these characters. Even when I first started watching A

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<v Speaker 5>Different World, I didn't have any attachment to any of

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<v Speaker 5>the characters.

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<v Speaker 3>It took a season.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the season, you like to care about the characters.

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<v Speaker 5>But they had like 20 episodes back then, too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you also had Denise. You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Denise was the driving... You knew Denise from The.

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<v Speaker 5>Cosby Show, so you were attached to Denise, and then

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<v Speaker 5>these other characters branched out from around Denise.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why you like.

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<v Speaker 5>Dwayne, because Dwayne was crushing on Denise, and then... You

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<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying? All these little other pieces that

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<v Speaker 5>allowed you to do that. They did the opposite. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to care about these kids. I don't give a

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<v Speaker 5>fuck about these kids and y'all ain't giving me enough

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<v Speaker 5>time to give a fuck about them.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do care about what's going on with Whitley

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<v Speaker 3>and Dwayne.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>The premiere episode sets up Deborah Wayne following the footsteps

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<v Speaker 2>of Dwayne Wade and Whitley as she's battling against her parents'

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<v Speaker 2>massive reputation in while trying to discover her own identity

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<v Speaker 2>at Hillman College.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me a second.

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<v Speaker 3>You can keep going. But, okay, let's start with Deborah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she came to Hillman, won the Fresh Start, and

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<v Speaker 2>then immediately hits the ground running with, you know, going

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<v Speaker 2>against the system, cussing out everybody. We may have already

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<v Speaker 2>answered this, but how well do you think the show

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<v Speaker 2>balanced the original nostalgia with establishing the board as her

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<v Speaker 2>own standalone character?

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<v Speaker 4>Um, Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think watching the first episode and,

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing her on, on the screen, um, the shit

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<v Speaker 1>was so corny because they gave her the Wayne Wayne's

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<v Speaker 1>glasses and, And I can't recall in the first episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think we saw him the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the damn series. Just so they'll know. So let us

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's who she is. And then she also

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<v Speaker 1>had Whitney's like personality of privilege and all this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But the the the issue is it just felt forced and.

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<v Speaker 1>And she didn't really give me Whitney vibes in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that Whitney did. Whitney, she knew she was better

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<v Speaker 1>than everybody else, and she didn't hesitate to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>And here, it just felt like she had the power

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<v Speaker 1>and the wealth, but she didn't really flaunt it in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Whitney did for whatever reason. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of her character, even the relationship she had with Shaquille

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that came with it, all this stuff felt very, very,

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<v Speaker 1>very forced. And I didn't like her. There wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>anything that she had from a personality or a character

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint that made me care about anything that she went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they didn't really do a good job of giving

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<v Speaker 1>us any sort of information to make us even care

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<v Speaker 1>about What the fuck happened with her and Shaquille? How's

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<v Speaker 1>her relationship with the parents that's going through that situation?

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<v Speaker 4>Any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They just wanted to get her on this campus in

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<v Speaker 1>this first episode. and make her a firecracker and a

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<v Speaker 1>shit starter.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was it. And she's going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with that and overcome that adversity.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about Deborah? I think she was

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<v Speaker 3>an okay character. I don't think it was a.

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<v Speaker 5>A terrible execution on what her character was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 5>I think what they were doing with the character over

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<v Speaker 5>like the season, like it made sense. I like how

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<v Speaker 5>they like use this importance of Dwayne and Whitley to

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<v Speaker 5>put this pressure on her. I just didn't care to,

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't attached to it. I didn't care about what

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<v Speaker 5>she was going through. Like, like Ken's point, they use

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<v Speaker 5>the glasses for one episode. It's not like, and it

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<v Speaker 5>didn't make sense. Like, it wasn't like she was a

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<v Speaker 5>daddy's girl or why she had the glasses. It was

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<v Speaker 5>just for us as the, the, what the viewers to

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<v Speaker 5>be like, Oh, she wearing the glasses that her daddy

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<v Speaker 5>wear or it was like, what was the point of

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<v Speaker 5>doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't, if you were to use it.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't used as a piece to like attach us

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<v Speaker 5>to be like, Oh, she's really attached to her dad.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying? And then use that as

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<v Speaker 3>a piece throughout the rest of the season. It was a,

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<v Speaker 3>It was, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Her as a character, yes, it makes sense that she's

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<v Speaker 5>like that because of her parents, but they didn't really

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<v Speaker 5>do much with her.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just, she's an okay character. Yeah. This show

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<v Speaker 3>is not that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did, I think her character grew on me as,

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<v Speaker 2>the character grew on me as.

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<v Speaker 4>It went on. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready for all the questions you got any comment

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<v Speaker 2>you got I'm saying this the character does grow on

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<v Speaker 2>you I think she is the out from the kids

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<v Speaker 2>the best actor out of the bunch and I think

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<v Speaker 2>especially when we got to the later half when her

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<v Speaker 2>that ain't a hot bar neither by the way it's

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<v Speaker 2>something but can you what's the nigga name that she

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<v Speaker 2>was messing with.

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<v Speaker 4>Shaquille Shaquille yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Once they started really getting into that, I think her

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<v Speaker 2>acting got, I think she showed the, that's when she

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<v Speaker 2>separated herself from the cast. But to your point, Ken,

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<v Speaker 2>like it, I was also curious more about her background

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<v Speaker 2>in this family.

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<v Speaker 3>Cause like, she's the youngest, you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, and we find that out just through, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>through someone telling us, but like, we don't get to

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<v Speaker 2>see the rest of the kids that Dwayne and Whitley have.

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<v Speaker 2>So we only get to see her. And she's the

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<v Speaker 2>youngest and she feels like she's the runt of them.

0:22:32.150 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 2>She's the one that isn't as talented or hasn't lived up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she mentions that through naming what her siblings did.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like because of that, she is

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<v Speaker 2>going to put herself and her personality explains why she

0:22:47.619 --> 0:22:50.419
<v Speaker 2>puts herself in certain situations. She's always been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>stand out in some kind of way or trying to

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<v Speaker 2>help or be useful. And I think that's when we

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<v Speaker 2>see her with that storyline with Jennifer Lewis, his character

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<v Speaker 2>where she's saying like, where's the money at? Even though

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.100
<v Speaker 2>she got money, she trying to fight for her friends

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.300
<v Speaker 2>or colleagues who are broke, who we find out her

0:23:06.340 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>roommate is the real, um, what's her name?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, Tashina Arnold's daughter, which I thought was interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, Oh yeah.

0:23:15.810 --> 0:23:15.929
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's her actual daughter. I had to make sure to

0:23:17.910 --> 0:23:19.830
<v Speaker 3>look it up. Cause I'm like mentioning, I was like, what?

0:23:20.090 --> 0:23:21.330
<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, Oh, okay. I guess that

0:23:21.350 --> 0:23:22.830
<v Speaker 3>makes sense. Cause she played her mom in the show.

0:23:22.890 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Um, Which is probably the only reason why she was like,

0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll be on the show if you put my.

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:28.939
<v Speaker 3>Daughter in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was her at the end.

0:23:31.930 --> 0:23:33.689
<v Speaker 3>But I think that, I.

0:23:35.270 --> 0:23:41.510
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, I just find things with, again, we know

0:23:41.530 --> 0:23:42.850
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be in the season two. I think

0:23:42.890 --> 0:23:44.490
<v Speaker 2>that things are going to be very interesting for her

0:23:44.530 --> 0:23:49.530
<v Speaker 2>moving forward. I don't think she was that bad. I

0:23:49.609 --> 0:23:52.889
<v Speaker 2>do agree she got better. Either she got better or

0:23:53.119 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I became numb. I don't know which one it is.

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<v Speaker 3>frames per second. Okay, so let's.

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:46.550
<v Speaker 2>Get into it. So we established the group. You want

0:24:46.570 --> 0:24:49.450
<v Speaker 2>to start with the roommate? Did you care about her roommate?

0:24:53.770 --> 0:24:57.070
<v Speaker 1>I think Rashida may have been the character I liked

0:24:57.290 --> 0:25:02.869
<v Speaker 1>the most. It's between her or Amir over the course

0:25:02.930 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>of the season. I'm undecided. You know, judging the show

0:25:10.500 --> 0:25:13.780
<v Speaker 1>on its own, because I had to, it's hard because

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>they have so many different world characters in here.

0:25:16.580 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 4>To separate it from a different world.

0:25:19.220 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Um, because I did watch, uh, dear white people and it's,

0:25:23.420 --> 0:25:25.889
<v Speaker 1>it's not that great either, but as the show went on,

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.780
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, this is just a different white people.

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:32.360
<v Speaker 4>This is just rap shit. If it was at an HBCU. Yeah.

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.550
<v Speaker 3>You under, once you understand the show, you can, uh,

0:25:35.609 --> 0:25:36.510
<v Speaker 3>just expectations.

0:25:37.290 --> 0:25:41.369
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So, um, so, and, and.

0:25:42.869 --> 0:25:47.370
<v Speaker 1>So watching her, I think her, I think over time,

0:25:47.430 --> 0:25:49.830
<v Speaker 1>I think I came to enjoy her the most out

0:25:49.850 --> 0:25:51.669
<v Speaker 1>of the other one. Because it felt like they were

0:25:51.690 --> 0:25:58.469
<v Speaker 1>really trying to force Deborah's character onto us as a viewer.

0:25:59.010 --> 0:26:04.389
<v Speaker 1>Because she's the child of two of the popular characters

0:26:04.410 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>from the show. But some of the other ones I

0:26:07.140 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 1>found to be more interesting than her. And I think Rashida,

0:26:13.180 --> 0:26:15.500
<v Speaker 1>by the time it ended, was one of the ones

0:26:15.540 --> 0:26:16.300
<v Speaker 1>that I ended up liking.

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I had, like, none of these. You ain't like the

0:26:23.060 --> 0:26:25.020
<v Speaker 3>African dude? What was his name?

0:26:25.060 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Amir?

0:26:25.500 --> 0:26:25.580
<v Speaker 2>Kofi.

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:27.940
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah.

0:26:27.980 --> 0:26:32.700
<v Speaker 3>Kofi, Shakir, Rashida. Who was the Christian woman?

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Hazel. Hazel. Yeah, Hazel.

0:26:35.300 --> 0:26:38.220
<v Speaker 3>Oof. I didn't care about none of these kids, bro.

0:26:38.420 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 4>Holy ass.

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.180
<v Speaker 3>I didn't give a fuck about none of these kids, bro.

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:44.820
<v Speaker 3>Y'all are tough critics, bro.

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:45.140
<v Speaker 4>I swear.

0:26:46.619 --> 0:26:51.939
<v Speaker 5>I didn't give a fuck. These storylines, too, were... I

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:56.530
<v Speaker 5>didn't even like their friendship, bro.

0:26:57.290 --> 0:26:57.609
<v Speaker 3>Which ones?

0:26:57.630 --> 0:27:01.910
<v Speaker 5>The girly pops. I ain't like that shit. It felt

0:27:01.970 --> 0:27:06.470
<v Speaker 5>so inauthentic. And maybe that goes to their bad acting, though.

0:27:07.070 --> 0:27:11.030
<v Speaker 3>Because it was just like, I can't. I just can't.

0:27:11.830 --> 0:27:15.100
<v Speaker 5>Nick, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. I

0:27:15.500 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 5>was struggling, bro. When I originally asked you to review this,

0:27:19.619 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm dead ass. And listen, I don't want to shit

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:23.699
<v Speaker 5>on black people, but I.

0:27:23.660 --> 0:27:26.020
<v Speaker 3>Want to just be honest, bro, because it's okay. You

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.929
<v Speaker 3>know why it's okay? Because we can, like Mike said,

0:27:28.970 --> 0:27:31.070
<v Speaker 3>we can have bad shit. And this is bad shit.

0:27:31.890 --> 0:27:36.170
<v Speaker 3>It's okay. By the time we got to episode four, bro,

0:27:36.190 --> 0:27:38.450
<v Speaker 3>I literally would have texted you and be like, nigga,

0:27:38.470 --> 0:27:39.620
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to review this no more.

0:27:40.050 --> 0:27:42.330
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, first of all, as a black podcast,

0:27:42.350 --> 0:27:45.409
<v Speaker 2>we got to. Like you said, good, bad, or ugly,

0:27:45.710 --> 0:27:49.690
<v Speaker 2>we got to talk about it. But I'm trying to

0:27:49.710 --> 0:27:51.830
<v Speaker 2>tell y'all, it ain't ugly and it ain't that bad.

0:27:52.150 --> 0:27:56.170
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just like, it's like Hennessy, Ken.

0:27:56.550 --> 0:27:59.930
<v Speaker 2>It gets better over time.

0:27:59.990 --> 0:28:03.970
<v Speaker 4>Bro, I don't even treat Hennessy anymore.

0:28:04.010 --> 0:28:06.609
<v Speaker 3>That is crazy. You don't watch A Different World anymore either.

0:28:07.910 --> 0:28:09.230
<v Speaker 3>So you watch this over Grown-ish?

0:28:10.540 --> 0:28:13.300
<v Speaker 2>Yeah i'll watch this uh what era what era of

0:28:13.340 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 2>grown is what era of grown is not the one

0:28:15.740 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>with the brother the one with the sister yeah y'all

0:28:19.180 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>are the original run that's what i'm saying bro it's

0:28:22.700 --> 0:28:25.470
<v Speaker 2>really just a wash it really is not that much

0:28:25.550 --> 0:28:30.610
<v Speaker 2>different in my opinion um when it comes to storyline

0:28:30.650 --> 0:28:33.670
<v Speaker 2>and interest it just seems like they always honestly i

0:28:33.690 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>think they probably tackled care uh college character arcs better

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 2>than this because like they had more episodes and the

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.300
<v Speaker 2>episode wasn't even that much longer it was a what

0:28:43.340 --> 0:28:46.530
<v Speaker 2>maybe what 12 to 15 a season or something like

0:28:46.590 --> 0:28:49.070
<v Speaker 2>that that's what I'm saying it's still better though but

0:28:49.110 --> 0:28:51.430
<v Speaker 2>yeah it just but that's because we already had we

0:28:51.470 --> 0:28:53.930
<v Speaker 2>knew who Yara was before she got there so it's

0:28:53.950 --> 0:28:56.190
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like you didn't have to establish too

0:28:56.210 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>much character but I don't know I guess moving on

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll get back to the kids later because there's some

0:29:02.900 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>shit of course we got to talk about with them

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>but going back to my other point I feel like

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.700
<v Speaker 2>The underrated part of this show, the show that didn't

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.380
<v Speaker 2>get utilized too much, and hopefully it will this upcoming season,

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 2>is Dwayne and Whitley's relationship and what they were going through. Jay,

0:29:16.700 --> 0:29:18.580
<v Speaker 2>how did you feel about seeing Dwayne and Whitley's marriage

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>in crisis, and did it add good drama or ruin

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>their fairytale ending from the original series?

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:27.820
<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's authentic.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 5>I think it's authentic because it's not even a thing

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.860
<v Speaker 5>of saying they can't be together.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.510
<v Speaker 3>It's a thing like they're struggling to be together, which I...

0:29:36.970 --> 0:29:39.290
<v Speaker 3>get because they're very much different.

0:29:41.870 --> 0:29:46.210
<v Speaker 5>We're happy they're together because obviously they went through all

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:50.340
<v Speaker 5>the shit they went through. I would 100% understand why

0:29:50.380 --> 0:29:54.540
<v Speaker 5>they would be struggling through their relationship. I don't think

0:29:54.700 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 5>it added drama.

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:55.740
<v Speaker 3>As per se.

0:29:55.740 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 5>It's like, oh, I'm at the end of my seat

0:29:57.860 --> 0:30:02.710
<v Speaker 5>to try to figure out what's next because The dialogue

0:30:02.750 --> 0:30:06.250
<v Speaker 5>was bad, too. Like the dialogue was very much in

0:30:06.290 --> 0:30:09.270
<v Speaker 5>your face. It didn't give me any intrigue as far

0:30:09.330 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 5>as like. It was it was like if my homeboy

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:18.700
<v Speaker 5>wanted to write this show, like the dialogue wasn't anything

0:30:18.780 --> 0:30:21.820
<v Speaker 5>on top of. So like I wasn't really dying to

0:30:21.860 --> 0:30:25.300
<v Speaker 5>hear what was next, because you kind of like feel

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:29.420
<v Speaker 5>the steps happening as they were talking. But it was

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 5>something I was more interested in than everything else.

0:30:34.020 --> 0:30:39.380
<v Speaker 3>What about you, Cam?

0:30:41.090 --> 0:30:43.090
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why they did it. I know we

0:30:43.130 --> 0:30:48.150
<v Speaker 1>had a whole conversation with them later to explain their

0:30:48.190 --> 0:30:53.910
<v Speaker 1>disconnect to what Jalen is saying. It makes sense that

0:30:54.230 --> 0:30:56.610
<v Speaker 1>if anybody was going to have some issues throughout their marriage,

0:30:56.650 --> 0:30:59.270
<v Speaker 1>it would be the two of them. Because that's kind

0:30:59.290 --> 0:31:02.830
<v Speaker 1>of what they've kind of always been through. But, you know,

0:31:02.990 --> 0:31:05.730
<v Speaker 1>and I do feel like that is sort of a

0:31:05.990 --> 0:31:08.570
<v Speaker 1>thing that happens. You know, there'll be bumps in the

0:31:08.630 --> 0:31:12.620
<v Speaker 1>road and stuff like that, you know, in certain relationships.

0:31:13.220 --> 0:31:15.180
<v Speaker 1>But it's also, we just wanted to create some additional

0:31:15.220 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>drama and tension for the two people that people will

0:31:18.940 --> 0:31:22.180
<v Speaker 1>probably connect to the most that watched the original show.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.330
<v Speaker 1>And it will be a place that we're somewhat familiar with.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 4>So it was almost just like a writing tool.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:36.300
<v Speaker 3>Again, I thought this was the best part of the series.

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.460
<v Speaker 2>I saw how they were trying to be clever with

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.370
<v Speaker 2>it as far as mixing and weaving in the drama

0:31:42.610 --> 0:31:46.250
<v Speaker 2>of the past with the present. But, I mean, when

0:31:46.270 --> 0:31:49.190
<v Speaker 2>you got Byron coming back, when you bring back Jada Pinkett,

0:31:49.770 --> 0:31:52.850
<v Speaker 2>and then you leave us on the cliffhanger of Denise

0:31:52.870 --> 0:31:54.070
<v Speaker 2>Huxtable on the other line.

0:31:54.150 --> 0:31:57.870
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, That's the shit where it's like, all right, bro.

0:31:57.890 --> 0:32:01.790
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, an adult version, if they gave us, what was it,

0:32:01.850 --> 0:32:08.350
<v Speaker 2>the best man chapters version of A Different World, and

0:32:08.370 --> 0:32:10.730
<v Speaker 2>if we actually get Lisa Bonet back here and talk

0:32:10.750 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>some shit, it's like, hold on, fuck the kids, like

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Bernie Max said. Let's get with the shit. Let's really

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 2>dive in this bag of writing. Debbie Allen, I know

0:32:19.860 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>you look at the writer's room, see what you can

0:32:22.700 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>cook up, because I am just.

0:32:25.940 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Again, those characters are still strong to this day. Again,

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>the kids are fine.

0:32:31.140 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Now, if they did a crazy segue, Ken, and just

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>focused on the adults for season two, like you get

0:32:35.860 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 2>the kids season one and adults season two, I think

0:32:37.620 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 2>that would be brilliant, but they're not going to do that.

0:32:41.580 --> 0:32:44.300
<v Speaker 3>I just want to learn more. I love how they ended.

0:32:44.340 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm saying, Ken, the way they ended this season,

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.380
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm coming back for second season. I got

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>to see if they get Denise Hudson. if they just

0:32:50.060 --> 0:32:51.940
<v Speaker 2>do us with that little phone call bullshit where we

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.060
<v Speaker 2>don't hear shit on the other line and he talked

0:32:54.100 --> 0:32:55.739
<v Speaker 2>to her and she just, and then Whitney's just going

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.220
<v Speaker 2>to be upset about him just even talking to her

0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:59.100
<v Speaker 2>and not her actually being there.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:00.740
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, all right, y'all played.

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 4>In my face.

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.700
<v Speaker 2>But, um, as we speed up, uh, through this, because

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>we're just going to talk about the main topics of this, uh,

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>first season. I can't get into everything, but as the semester, uh,

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:18.660
<v Speaker 2>picks up speed, uh, jay cuffing season it's a you

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>know say we shooting this october uh 12th 2026 i

0:33:22.060 --> 0:33:25.940
<v Speaker 2>don't know usually i say the start of cuffing season

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:30.060
<v Speaker 2>starts after uh labor day but um today's you know

0:33:30.260 --> 0:33:32.860
<v Speaker 2>no time like the present they talk about cuffing season

0:33:32.900 --> 0:33:35.940
<v Speaker 2>a lot in this in this first season uh where

0:33:36.020 --> 0:33:38.660
<v Speaker 2>as you know there's a tense academic stress because of

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the you know they still in school and then um

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.090
<v Speaker 2>they got unexpected nights out with the you know the

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.740
<v Speaker 2>older generation uh Jay, what did you think about the

0:33:48.060 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>relationship hookup dynamic with the group?

0:33:52.980 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Nick.

0:33:54.920 --> 0:34:03.540
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to do a show, kid. He keeps trying to.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>He keeps trying to just.

0:34:06.620 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 3>No, I'll answer the question. Man, that shit was corny, bruh.

0:34:11.780 --> 0:34:14.460
<v Speaker 3>Matter of fact, that is the epitome of this show.

0:34:15.250 --> 0:34:16.390
<v Speaker 4>Shit is corny, bro.

0:34:17.610 --> 0:34:18.510
<v Speaker 3>All this shit is corny.

0:34:20.050 --> 0:34:25.529
<v Speaker 5>They're in the dormitory lounge talking about it's cuffing season, Nick.

0:34:25.550 --> 0:34:31.250
<v Speaker 5>They're saying it out. They're having a meeting about cuffing.

0:34:30.930 --> 0:34:32.930
<v Speaker 3>Season, Nick.

0:34:32.989 --> 0:34:33.299
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:34.390
<v Speaker 1>Nick.

0:34:34.570 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:35.219 --> 0:34:39.420
<v Speaker 3>They're having a meeting about it being cuffing season. And

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.820
<v Speaker 3>they're talking to each other, asking, who you going to cuff? Nigga, where?

0:34:43.780 --> 0:34:49.029
<v Speaker 3>Who does this? nah Nick don't be quiet this.

0:34:48.950 --> 0:34:52.710
<v Speaker 2>Show it don't happen who does this they trying to

0:34:52.750 --> 0:34:57.109
<v Speaker 2>peep if black people if they're aware they just trying

0:34:57.140 --> 0:35:00.060
<v Speaker 2>to peep if they're I think it's again this is

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>a show for black people looking at black people with

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like from the outside looking in you.

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.700
<v Speaker 5>Know what I'm saying that's not what a different world

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:08.820
<v Speaker 5>is supposed to be though.

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 2>It kind of was though it kind of was though

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>back then that's all I was talking about it was

0:35:12.219 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 2>like it was a lot about like.

0:35:13.219 --> 0:35:16.339
<v Speaker 4>There's no announcement Nick it's no announcement I know that

0:35:16.380 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 4>doesn't happen it just happens And then maybe it's discussed

0:35:18.860 --> 0:35:19.540
<v Speaker 4>after the fact.

0:35:20.219 --> 0:35:21.970
<v Speaker 3>You might sit with your homies and be like, bro, man,

0:35:22.030 --> 0:35:22.780
<v Speaker 3>it's getting cold, man.

0:35:22.820 --> 0:35:25.530
<v Speaker 5>I want something like this. It's that time of year.

0:35:25.610 --> 0:35:27.850
<v Speaker 5>It's that season. You ain't going to say, man, it's

0:35:27.890 --> 0:35:29.710
<v Speaker 5>cuffing season, man. Who y'all about to cuff? Who you

0:35:29.730 --> 0:35:31.230
<v Speaker 5>thinking about cuffing? Who you about to be booed?

0:35:31.790 --> 0:35:36.410
<v Speaker 3>No, nigga, that don't happen. It's TV, Jay.

0:35:36.610 --> 0:35:40.270
<v Speaker 2>It's not a play-by-play. Of course, the game meant to

0:35:40.310 --> 0:35:43.950
<v Speaker 2>be sold, not told. That's the thing. I get that.

0:35:43.989 --> 0:35:49.650
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, like, Yeah, nigga. Go ahead.

0:35:50.330 --> 0:35:52.950
<v Speaker 2>Let's get to the mess, Cam. That's what we're here for.

0:35:53.010 --> 0:35:56.110
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get y'all in the storyline.

0:35:56.130 --> 0:35:57.150
<v Speaker 3>Let's get to the mess.

0:35:57.170 --> 0:36:00.630
<v Speaker 5>Before you do that, even outside of that, Nick, how

0:36:00.670 --> 0:36:03.170
<v Speaker 5>many niggas you know burning, telling everybody in the dorm

0:36:03.190 --> 0:36:03.710
<v Speaker 5>they burning?

0:36:05.230 --> 0:36:06.169
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully a couple more.

0:36:06.250 --> 0:36:08.770
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that was so bad.

0:36:08.890 --> 0:36:16.590
<v Speaker 3>Niggas was like, what's going on? They burning. Nigga, what? What?

0:36:17.110 --> 0:36:19.370
<v Speaker 2>You would hope someone would say that, though, Jay. I

0:36:19.410 --> 0:36:22.910
<v Speaker 2>think they're trying to just go off of... If somebody burning,

0:36:22.969 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>of course, don't keep it a secret if it can spread.

0:36:26.100 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh, God.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:33.140
<v Speaker 1>See, this shit make y'all look bad, bro. This shit

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>make y'all look bad because I'm watching this shit. I'm like, well,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.700
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's how they are nowadays. I understand that I'm

0:36:39.900 --> 0:36:40.980
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the adults.

0:36:41.420 --> 0:36:42.980
<v Speaker 4>On the show. So I get it.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 1>So stuff happening on the show, I was like, man,

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:46.750
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I'm not supposed to get it.

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:47.620
<v Speaker 4>That's why I was.

0:36:47.580 --> 0:36:50.509
<v Speaker 1>Looking interested in talking about the show with you guys.

0:36:50.530 --> 0:36:52.989
<v Speaker 1>Cause I'm like, maybe you guys put me on, you know,

0:36:53.050 --> 0:36:54.910
<v Speaker 1>put me on game about some shit that's happening.

0:36:54.950 --> 0:36:57.550
<v Speaker 4>That changed. Every generation has their own shit.

0:36:58.030 --> 0:36:58.650
<v Speaker 3>Nah, I can't.

0:36:59.390 --> 0:37:03.050
<v Speaker 4>Nah, this ain't a thing. I don't know what y'all

0:37:03.090 --> 0:37:04.010
<v Speaker 4>doing these days, bro.

0:37:04.950 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 2>If anything, we definitely keeping it to the chest. These days,

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 2>niggas ain't telling nobody shit until it's too late.

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.259
<v Speaker 1>I thought we were, you know, it's a generation of

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:18.550
<v Speaker 1>opency and transparency.

0:37:18.590 --> 0:37:20.290
<v Speaker 4>Nah, ain't shit open.

0:37:20.570 --> 0:37:25.190
<v Speaker 3>Ain't shit open. Shit closed.

0:37:25.710 --> 0:37:30.089
<v Speaker 2>My thing is, of course, again, these episodes are meant

0:37:30.110 --> 0:37:35.340
<v Speaker 2>to just be like random PSAs for the young generation.

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:36.180
<v Speaker 3>Get tested.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>You know be responsible when having sex know what consent

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.850
<v Speaker 2>is like they just trying to do the the again

0:37:44.969 --> 0:37:47.029
<v Speaker 2>we did these episodes in the 90s let's not act

0:37:47.070 --> 0:37:49.009
<v Speaker 2>like this is foreign ken you know you know exactly

0:37:49.030 --> 0:37:50.690
<v Speaker 2>what i'm talking about they always had a gun episode

0:37:50.730 --> 0:37:53.850
<v Speaker 2>they always had a if she got pregnant episode uh

0:37:53.910 --> 0:37:56.729
<v Speaker 2>yeah they always got like uh he had a he

0:37:56.750 --> 0:37:59.069
<v Speaker 2>beat me yeah like she got a like all that

0:37:59.110 --> 0:38:01.110
<v Speaker 2>shit like they had these episodes they just don't it

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.739
<v Speaker 2>did it just look funny because we we older It ain't, it's.

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Not even that. It's the execution of it. Again, nobody's

0:38:08.780 --> 0:38:12.190
<v Speaker 3>sitting in a lounge talking about something. Yo, it's cuffing season. No,

0:38:12.469 --> 0:38:14.410
<v Speaker 3>but you do, you do kick it with your homies

0:38:14.469 --> 0:38:15.010
<v Speaker 3>and you do.

0:38:14.890 --> 0:38:16.890
<v Speaker 5>Talk in a way, there's a way to do dialogue

0:38:16.950 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 5>and write this to be like, yo, I'm talking with

0:38:18.820 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 5>the homies like, bro, it's that time of the year

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.140
<v Speaker 5>where it's like. I ain't trying to be cuddled up

0:38:22.180 --> 0:38:25.220
<v Speaker 5>by myself when it get cold outside. Like it's ways

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.410
<v Speaker 5>to do this. Like, but to just be like, we

0:38:28.430 --> 0:38:30.790
<v Speaker 5>going to announce it's cuffing season. So go out and

0:38:30.830 --> 0:38:34.009
<v Speaker 5>find somebody. No, you can also do the, the, the

0:38:34.110 --> 0:38:37.580
<v Speaker 5>SCI conversation, but one of the homies get, get an SCI.

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.720
<v Speaker 3>He come to you like, bro, like, I'm having an issue, dog.

0:38:41.140 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 5>There's ways to do this.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 3>You got niggas in the lounge, all of them burning,

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and everybody goes to get... Come on, dog.

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:53.190
<v Speaker 1>And none of the main characters caught anything. Both of

0:38:53.210 --> 0:38:56.490
<v Speaker 1>their ass was clean, and she had some yeast infection.

0:38:58.610 --> 0:39:00.129
<v Speaker 1>Have some consequences, bro.

0:39:00.150 --> 0:39:02.690
<v Speaker 2>Ken, this is what I thought they was getting into.

0:39:02.770 --> 0:39:04.779
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, damn, they going into some Tyler

0:39:04.820 --> 0:39:05.390
<v Speaker 2>Perry shit.

0:39:06.020 --> 0:39:06.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:39:07.390 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 6>That makes it better huh better than what y'all talking

0:39:10.940 --> 0:39:15.859
<v Speaker 6>about hazel and um amir are really good friends right

0:39:15.900 --> 0:39:19.900
<v Speaker 6>hazel is the christian uh or preacher's kid i guess

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:22.890
<v Speaker 6>uh amir is the um.

0:39:23.930 --> 0:39:27.169
<v Speaker 4>Horny and holy that's what she is horny and fucking holy.

0:39:27.010 --> 0:39:29.770
<v Speaker 3>Horny and holy and amir is just I don't know

0:39:29.790 --> 0:39:36.530
<v Speaker 3>what to call him. Is he a criminal? Is he a.

0:39:37.430 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 4>Is he unhoused?

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:39.900
<v Speaker 3>Is he.

0:39:40.300 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, if I heard unhoused in another episode.

0:39:44.420 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 3>And we know that he is... He's full with his sexuality,

0:39:47.580 --> 0:39:49.739
<v Speaker 3>so it's just like... They thought.

0:39:51.140 --> 0:39:53.020
<v Speaker 4>I think he gay.

0:39:54.739 --> 0:39:56.969
<v Speaker 3>These days I give room for like, you can be fluid.

0:39:57.110 --> 0:39:59.210
<v Speaker 3>You can be women one day, it don't matter.

0:39:59.670 --> 0:40:00.029
<v Speaker 4>He's gay.

0:40:00.620 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 3>But so he's.

0:40:01.580 --> 0:40:05.569
<v Speaker 2>Gay he's unhoused and he got a criminal background like

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:13.570
<v Speaker 2>he got a p.o officer he got a p.o officer

0:40:13.750 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 2>in his ass every day and that's what i didn't

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>understand it's like why are you putting the stereotype all

0:40:21.460 --> 0:40:26.500
<v Speaker 2>these things on this one character like Can't he just

0:40:26.540 --> 0:40:31.029
<v Speaker 2>be unhousing gay? Does he have to be a criminal too?

0:40:31.730 --> 0:40:34.390
<v Speaker 2>Why do we have to have the PO officer here?

0:40:37.550 --> 0:40:38.950
<v Speaker 2>I say all that to say is that's not the

0:40:38.969 --> 0:40:42.350
<v Speaker 2>main point. Hazel and Amir, they end up becoming cool.

0:40:43.050 --> 0:40:46.410
<v Speaker 2>And then there's this dude out of nowhere, because Amir

0:40:46.450 --> 0:40:47.549
<v Speaker 2>know how to cut hair randomly.

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.620
<v Speaker 3>And the dude is like, oh, is he with Hazel

0:40:51.700 --> 0:40:51.860
<v Speaker 3>or is.

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:52.540
<v Speaker 4>He with Amir?

0:40:53.540 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 2>What did you think about? I forgot Cud's name. What

0:40:56.660 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 2>do you think about dude, Amir, Hazel? Oh, that's hilarious.

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.670
<v Speaker 2>But I thought it was going to get messy as

0:41:06.710 --> 0:41:09.910
<v Speaker 2>far as like Amir caused something.

0:41:09.930 --> 0:41:13.110
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Hazel caused something because of him messing with Amir.

0:41:13.650 --> 0:41:16.489
<v Speaker 3>And then I was also upset with how Amir's character was.

0:41:18.010 --> 0:41:20.090
<v Speaker 2>Was saying some of the things to Hazel like, bro,

0:41:20.130 --> 0:41:22.390
<v Speaker 2>you fucked up. Why are you talking like this?

0:41:25.130 --> 0:41:27.910
<v Speaker 1>That could have been really good because I knew that

0:41:27.950 --> 0:41:29.790
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker was gay as soon as he came around the

0:41:29.830 --> 0:41:31.770
<v Speaker 1>corner and got ready to sit in that damn chair.

0:41:33.989 --> 0:41:37.010
<v Speaker 4>And so, hey, Amir did too, Jalen.

0:41:38.300 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Look, the show told all of us that there was

0:41:42.580 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be some shit between them. So I was

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>just waiting for it to happen. Because, you know, he

0:41:48.780 --> 0:41:51.430
<v Speaker 1>gave him a nickname and everything, Mirror Mirror and all

0:41:51.469 --> 0:41:52.009
<v Speaker 1>his other shit.

0:41:52.050 --> 0:41:52.630
<v Speaker 4>They were cool.

0:41:53.130 --> 0:41:54.590
<v Speaker 1>And then, you know, he hit him with the Paul's

0:41:54.630 --> 0:41:56.710
<v Speaker 1>line and stuff like that. So it was going to happen,

0:41:57.270 --> 0:41:59.989
<v Speaker 1>you know. So and and, you know, I mean, he

0:42:00.030 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>said that, you know, he was trying to figure some

0:42:02.580 --> 0:42:05.140
<v Speaker 1>shit out, you know, in the hazel, I guess, you know,

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>as they say, it wasn't his beard or whatever. And,

0:42:07.540 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, so that's cool. But this shit could have

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:15.190
<v Speaker 1>been really fucking cool. good with with this old shit

0:42:15.250 --> 0:42:18.450
<v Speaker 1>could have been really good if if Amir slept with

0:42:18.510 --> 0:42:22.549
<v Speaker 1>that dude came back and gave her some shit like

0:42:22.650 --> 0:42:24.310
<v Speaker 1>which is where I thought they were going to that

0:42:24.370 --> 0:42:27.370
<v Speaker 1>could have been some great ass fucking drama bro.

0:42:27.130 --> 0:42:29.339
<v Speaker 2>Jay are me and Ken off base with like that

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>being like a potential plot point because I thought that

0:42:31.620 --> 0:42:33.020
<v Speaker 2>was going to be I thought that was going to

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.620
<v Speaker 2>be a huge conversation because you know people women one

0:42:35.660 --> 0:42:37.580
<v Speaker 2>of black women's number one fear you know I've talked

0:42:37.620 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>about my fears on this platform many times one of

0:42:39.900 --> 0:42:41.740
<v Speaker 2>black women's number one fears is dealing with a download

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 2>nigga and the repercussions of that. And I was like,

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 2>is this show that bold to have that conversation or

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:51.879
<v Speaker 2>have that played out in this? That's why I said

0:42:51.900 --> 0:42:55.620
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Perry-ish. But it went in a way that didn't...

0:42:55.660 --> 0:42:58.010
<v Speaker 2>Like you said... I don't know who said it. All

0:42:58.050 --> 0:43:00.509
<v Speaker 2>these problems went away. It was all solved at the

0:43:00.530 --> 0:43:02.710
<v Speaker 2>end of the day. And I was like, Hazel has

0:43:02.750 --> 0:43:06.590
<v Speaker 2>the most forgiving spirit I've ever seen of a character

0:43:06.870 --> 0:43:07.850
<v Speaker 2>after going through that shit.

0:43:08.210 --> 0:43:11.850
<v Speaker 3>Am I tripping on that, Jay? Well, one.

0:43:15.190 --> 0:43:16.050
<v Speaker 3>Ken no.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 5>Two i think i don't think it would have been

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.850
<v Speaker 5>a great idea to have her catch something from him

0:43:29.910 --> 0:43:33.730
<v Speaker 5>because he was down low like i don't think that's

0:43:33.750 --> 0:43:37.090
<v Speaker 5>because it it reinstates even though they do touch it

0:43:37.150 --> 0:43:41.460
<v Speaker 5>a little bit it just reaffirms like the stereotype of

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.580
<v Speaker 5>the homophobia that women have, that if a man is

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:47.100
<v Speaker 5>having sex with another man, that he's going to catch something.

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.950
<v Speaker 3>So that wouldn't have been the best thing to do.

0:43:51.989 --> 0:43:54.010
<v Speaker 4>She had it. She said he's a real man.

0:43:54.030 --> 0:43:56.830
<v Speaker 3>No, that's what I'm saying. She was homophobic.

0:43:56.850 --> 0:43:57.310
<v Speaker 4>Yes, she was.

0:43:57.330 --> 0:43:57.850
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

0:43:57.870 --> 0:43:59.989
<v Speaker 5>But they handled it a different way as compared to

0:44:00.030 --> 0:44:03.550
<v Speaker 5>them saying she caught something. The clout didn't have to

0:44:03.570 --> 0:44:06.670
<v Speaker 5>be in general. That whole thing of people having... I

0:44:06.690 --> 0:44:11.460
<v Speaker 5>don't get It was just handled poorly, bro. That was

0:44:11.500 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 5>handled poorly.

0:44:12.500 --> 0:44:13.460
<v Speaker 3>But that's what I'm saying.

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>To Ken's point, Jay, they went in that direction of

0:44:15.980 --> 0:44:21.660
<v Speaker 2>homophobia from a Black woman's perspective. And it was just like,

0:44:21.820 --> 0:44:23.819
<v Speaker 2>you set up the whole situation just not to do

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>it and then to do it in that way.

0:44:24.980 --> 0:44:26.710
<v Speaker 3>It was just like, do you want to do.

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.090
<v Speaker 4>It or not? You know what I'm saying?

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:33.950
<v Speaker 1>Black women and Christian, it's like, it's so... It's a stereotype.

0:44:34.650 --> 0:44:38.509
<v Speaker 1>But that's the whole point. The show is a very basic...

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.430
<v Speaker 1>It's a basic written show. It's very elementary. So when

0:44:43.489 --> 0:44:45.590
<v Speaker 1>I say as soon as he walks around that corner

0:44:46.130 --> 0:44:48.509
<v Speaker 1>and they set the scene up and how they're looking

0:44:48.550 --> 0:44:51.750
<v Speaker 1>at one another, the show is written so poorly, you

0:44:51.790 --> 0:44:54.390
<v Speaker 1>can see that that's where they're going because they're not

0:44:54.550 --> 0:44:56.650
<v Speaker 1>clever in doing it in a way that you can't

0:44:56.930 --> 0:44:59.390
<v Speaker 1>tell that that guy's going to end up being on

0:44:59.430 --> 0:44:59.950
<v Speaker 1>the down low.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 5>You're right, but it's one of those negative stereotypes where

0:45:04.340 --> 0:45:09.020
<v Speaker 5>it reinforces the bad. of like a man like women

0:45:09.060 --> 0:45:11.060
<v Speaker 5>like so women are used that as an excuse of

0:45:11.140 --> 0:45:13.660
<v Speaker 5>why they're homophobic for their mate like a man being

0:45:13.739 --> 0:45:17.180
<v Speaker 5>down low it's not even that you are nervous that

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.009
<v Speaker 5>you're going to catch something because if a nigga cheat

0:45:19.050 --> 0:45:22.830
<v Speaker 5>with a woman you can catch something it's homophobic but

0:45:23.330 --> 0:45:25.430
<v Speaker 5>yeah but it's the homophobia of it all saying oh

0:45:25.570 --> 0:45:28.270
<v Speaker 5>i will really catch something is if he's with another

0:45:28.310 --> 0:45:28.969
<v Speaker 5>man they.

0:45:28.910 --> 0:45:29.469
<v Speaker 4>Could have did.

0:45:31.860 --> 0:45:34.299
<v Speaker 1>They could have did the same shit because this whole

0:45:34.660 --> 0:45:37.450
<v Speaker 1>episode happened after Shaquille slept with Candace.

0:45:37.730 --> 0:45:40.950
<v Speaker 4>So I thought, actually, to your point, I thought his.

0:45:40.790 --> 0:45:44.070
<v Speaker 1>Ass was going to have something. But neither one of them.

0:45:44.010 --> 0:45:45.150
<v Speaker 3>Motherfuckers had shit.

0:45:45.210 --> 0:45:47.430
<v Speaker 2>My whole point is, at least my perspective on it is,

0:45:47.989 --> 0:45:49.890
<v Speaker 2>I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I see why

0:45:49.910 --> 0:45:53.060
<v Speaker 2>they went in the direction they did. But to me,

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.980
<v Speaker 2>to Ken's point, this whole show has been talking about

0:45:56.040 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 2>black stereotypes. I pointed out with Amir, like, He has

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:01.299
<v Speaker 2>a criminal record.

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:02.989
<v Speaker 3>Why? Why do we have that in the show? We

0:46:03.010 --> 0:46:04.730
<v Speaker 3>talked about it early in this review.

0:46:05.190 --> 0:46:08.650
<v Speaker 2>Why are they showing Black HBCUs being broke and dealing

0:46:08.690 --> 0:46:14.030
<v Speaker 2>with embezzlement and all that other shit?

0:46:14.050 --> 0:46:18.330
<v Speaker 3>They're talking about all things Black as far as stereotypes, Again.

0:46:18.370 --> 0:46:21.990
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about the African diaspora conversation now

0:46:22.010 --> 0:46:26.060
<v Speaker 2>that we got Da Vinci quotes out there. They talked

0:46:26.100 --> 0:46:29.100
<v Speaker 2>about everything, so I'm just like, my only, not issue,

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 2>but I was just very curious, why did you choose

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:33.500
<v Speaker 2>to go with it in this way if you're setting

0:46:33.540 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it up like this? Especially since we're talking about all

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:37.380
<v Speaker 2>Black stereotypes.

0:46:37.660 --> 0:46:40.300
<v Speaker 1>And real quick, Jalen, to add this to your response,

0:46:41.060 --> 0:46:44.620
<v Speaker 1>maybe because this is a thing, they could have used

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.150
<v Speaker 1>this as a way, as a teachable moment to address

0:46:48.170 --> 0:46:51.529
<v Speaker 1>some of the conversations that do be happening, some of

0:46:51.550 --> 0:46:52.689
<v Speaker 1>the stereotypes that be happening.

0:46:53.010 --> 0:46:54.569
<v Speaker 2>Same thing with the AIDS thing. Because they did that,

0:46:54.610 --> 0:46:59.720
<v Speaker 2>remember with the AIDS episode? Dude had a whole do-rag

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:00.950
<v Speaker 2>on his face. I was like, I don't want to

0:47:00.969 --> 0:47:03.660
<v Speaker 2>breathe there. Does she breathe? They were playing on those

0:47:03.739 --> 0:47:06.020
<v Speaker 2>stereotypes of like, bro, just because you have HIV and

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff.

0:47:06.420 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 4>He said, Mr.

0:47:07.260 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Gaines said, you're more of a danger to her than

0:47:09.180 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 2>she is to you.

0:47:10.580 --> 0:47:11.700
<v Speaker 3>It was a teachable moment.

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.420
<v Speaker 2>And I was just thinking like, if they go for

0:47:14.500 --> 0:47:17.290
<v Speaker 2>it in the stereotype, like a stereotype way, maybe they

0:47:17.310 --> 0:47:18.150
<v Speaker 2>can land a plane.

0:47:18.170 --> 0:47:20.430
<v Speaker 3>Like maybe they were building it up to like start off.

0:47:20.590 --> 0:47:23.700
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad it didn't.

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:27.700
<v Speaker 3>Cause it would have been real. It would have been messy.

0:47:28.380 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 5>Nah, I think there's a, I think there's a difference in,

0:47:31.700 --> 0:47:33.980
<v Speaker 5>even though I don't agree or like the stereotypes they

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.580
<v Speaker 5>did tackle in the way they did it.

0:47:35.900 --> 0:47:38.860
<v Speaker 3>And then there's a difference when you're using a generalization

0:47:38.969 --> 0:47:39.569
<v Speaker 3>of our rate.

0:47:39.610 --> 0:47:42.710
<v Speaker 5>Like, like it's a race thing for us as compared

0:47:42.730 --> 0:47:45.830
<v Speaker 5>to like, you're attacking someone sexual because there's still a

0:47:45.890 --> 0:47:48.930
<v Speaker 5>minority group within the diet, like within our race. Like

0:47:49.370 --> 0:47:52.219
<v Speaker 5>there's still a minority that's still targeted. And there's a

0:47:52.260 --> 0:47:55.919
<v Speaker 5>lot of homophobia like rampant throughout the country, but in black,

0:47:56.100 --> 0:47:58.700
<v Speaker 5>the black community, I think that's a different type of

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.980
<v Speaker 5>thing as compared to just a overall arch and stereotype.

0:48:02.660 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't want to touch that in.

0:48:05.100 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 4>I feel you.

0:48:05.739 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>But if, if, if this show is a black show

0:48:09.260 --> 0:48:14.140
<v Speaker 1>and about black HBCUs and black culture and conversations, then

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:15.700
<v Speaker 1>have the conversations in the show.

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.410
<v Speaker 4>Don't run away from it.

0:48:19.460 --> 0:48:21.140
<v Speaker 3>What conversation they had in the show?

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh, they threw a lot of shit. They threw a

0:48:25.820 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 4>lot of shit out.

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:28.700
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

0:48:28.739 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have any real conversations in the show, and

0:48:31.020 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that's also part of the problem.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly.

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:35.100
<v Speaker 4>Okay. All right.

0:48:39.660 --> 0:48:42.500
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know. I feel like they've... Because to that point,

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 3>we get through....

0:48:45.300 --> 0:48:48.100
<v Speaker 2>Like by episode six when they go out to the

0:48:48.140 --> 0:48:50.970
<v Speaker 2>club where we see like the uh the original cast

0:48:51.010 --> 0:48:53.549
<v Speaker 2>but the young cast and then like at the end

0:48:53.570 --> 0:48:55.649
<v Speaker 2>of that episode they were like we used to do

0:48:55.690 --> 0:48:57.330
<v Speaker 2>shit too like you know you should have seen what

0:48:57.350 --> 0:48:59.209
<v Speaker 2>your mom and daddy did back in the day like

0:48:59.930 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 2>what y'all doing y'all going through your own thing just

0:49:01.700 --> 0:49:03.399
<v Speaker 2>know y'all got us it was just kind of like

0:49:03.420 --> 0:49:06.379
<v Speaker 2>they kept saying that and i was just like like

0:49:06.460 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 2>show us don't tell us like you know what i

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>mean like They harped on this whole scene where it

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:16.350
<v Speaker 2>was the poor burned down a school of kittens or something.

0:49:16.430 --> 0:49:18.270
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the fuck it is. Something went

0:49:18.310 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 2>on fire where she had to leave. And then Shaq

0:49:21.660 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 2>was a part of it. And it's just like, okay,

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:25.339
<v Speaker 2>you could have showed us that at least a little bit.

0:49:27.540 --> 0:49:31.919
<v Speaker 2>Or at least have it be more meaningful for them

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:33.979
<v Speaker 2>to really be bonded. I feel like they were always

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.820
<v Speaker 2>trying to make sure like, oh, they were meant to

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:36.860
<v Speaker 2>be together, but this happens.

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.100
<v Speaker 3>That's why they broke up. And now they're getting back together.

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.350
<v Speaker 2>It was like, you're telling us about that, but that's why,

0:49:41.510 --> 0:49:43.590
<v Speaker 2>but because of that, to your point, Jay, they rushing

0:49:43.630 --> 0:49:46.210
<v Speaker 2>through that story. So by the time we get to

0:49:46.250 --> 0:49:48.970
<v Speaker 2>their main confidence, like, okay, he can go fuck. He

0:49:48.989 --> 0:49:52.219
<v Speaker 2>literally went to go fuck somebody else that night. So like,

0:49:52.500 --> 0:49:54.819
<v Speaker 2>how much did he really mean to it? And, and

0:49:54.860 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 2>how much does she mean to him? Cause she was

0:49:56.260 --> 0:49:58.259
<v Speaker 2>kissing on niggas while they was.

0:49:58.219 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Trying to be together. So just like, I could, I

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.020
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I'm trying to, I'm trying to defend it.

0:50:04.090 --> 0:50:04.930
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. Yeah.

0:50:05.610 --> 0:50:08.170
<v Speaker 3>I didn't give a fuck about their relationship. They're off

0:50:08.230 --> 0:50:11.250
<v Speaker 3>and on. I didn't give a fuck about that. And

0:50:11.290 --> 0:50:14.110
<v Speaker 3>all this bullshit, the bullshit, like, you took my virginity

0:50:14.180 --> 0:50:15.060
<v Speaker 3>and didn't call me.

0:50:15.340 --> 0:50:16.340
<v Speaker 4>I feel good.

0:50:17.460 --> 0:50:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I get it. But it was terrible. The acting was

0:50:22.380 --> 0:50:27.779
<v Speaker 3>so bad in that part. I was like, okay. Like,

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:33.710
<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel anything. I was like, I don't care. Honestly, Nick, they...

0:50:34.830 --> 0:50:35.450
<v Speaker 3>They didn't go that.

0:50:35.350 --> 0:50:40.609
<v Speaker 5>Carrot early or that something happened between them. But I

0:50:40.690 --> 0:50:43.489
<v Speaker 5>know when we're young, we don't have the communication. Like,

0:50:43.510 --> 0:50:46.870
<v Speaker 5>we're not great at communication. Like, they mentioned that briefly.

0:50:47.989 --> 0:50:49.509
<v Speaker 5>But you got back with this nigga, and that was

0:50:49.550 --> 0:50:53.730
<v Speaker 5>the reason why y'all had beef and you didn't address

0:50:53.750 --> 0:50:54.990
<v Speaker 5>this before y'all got back together?

0:50:56.700 --> 0:50:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Y'all waited till y'all broke up again to address it?

0:51:00.739 --> 0:51:03.710
<v Speaker 3>What sense did that make, Nick? I mean, it's a

0:51:03.770 --> 0:51:04.330
<v Speaker 3>different world.

0:51:05.330 --> 0:51:10.330
<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God. And the theme song was so corny, too.

0:51:10.910 --> 0:51:12.089
<v Speaker 4>They should have kept their original theme.

0:51:12.550 --> 0:51:14.339
<v Speaker 1>They were like, we just want to make sure that

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:16.879
<v Speaker 1>for people like me that's watching the show, that this

0:51:16.980 --> 0:51:18.980
<v Speaker 1>is a different world from the one that we watched.

0:51:19.420 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 4>It was just like, all right, man. But you're right, Jalen.

0:51:22.700 --> 0:51:26.299
<v Speaker 3>Brandy did the intro song. You think they should have

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:30.029
<v Speaker 3>got somebody else besides Brandy? I think they should have not.

0:51:29.969 --> 0:51:30.450
<v Speaker 4>Done this shit.

0:51:30.469 --> 0:51:31.029
<v Speaker 3>That's what I think.

0:51:31.610 --> 0:51:37.509
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think to your point, Jalen, about their relationship,

0:51:37.590 --> 0:51:41.590
<v Speaker 1>they really tried to force like Nick, like you were saying, like.

0:51:41.489 --> 0:51:43.930
<v Speaker 4>They're meant to be and they were made for each other.

0:51:44.030 --> 0:51:46.630
<v Speaker 1>And, you know, he's the hot guy on campus and

0:51:46.730 --> 0:51:47.630
<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff.

0:51:48.530 --> 0:51:50.950
<v Speaker 4>And and they are so madly in love.

0:51:51.110 --> 0:51:54.530
<v Speaker 1>And then they introduce for them their version of Byron

0:51:54.550 --> 0:51:55.969
<v Speaker 1>with with Ellington ads.

0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:58.910
<v Speaker 4>And what I always tell you about a nigga with

0:51:58.930 --> 0:51:59.690
<v Speaker 4>a mustache, bro.

0:52:03.650 --> 0:52:10.049
<v Speaker 2>He was a posh piece of shit. That motherfucker. He

0:52:10.140 --> 0:52:18.060
<v Speaker 2>over here lying about flowers, Jay. I'm like, nigga.

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 5>If a woman like that is in the middle of

0:52:19.540 --> 0:52:21.760
<v Speaker 5>your bedroom and she's like, oh, you got these for me?

0:52:21.950 --> 0:52:23.489
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, I did.

0:52:24.830 --> 0:52:25.509
<v Speaker 4>You know what?

0:52:25.530 --> 0:52:27.630
<v Speaker 3>Let me just say, I can see a nigga.

0:52:27.450 --> 0:52:29.890
<v Speaker 2>Just lying to me like, yeah, I did that shit. Like,

0:52:30.590 --> 0:52:32.450
<v Speaker 2>but I'm just like, he doubled down on it, Ken.

0:52:32.469 --> 0:52:34.350
<v Speaker 2>He went to go to Shaq saying like, you a

0:52:34.570 --> 0:52:36.109
<v Speaker 2>little bitch for snitching on me.

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:39.020
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much.

0:52:40.260 --> 0:52:45.870
<v Speaker 4>You look almost a B-shit. You fucked nigga.

0:52:45.650 --> 0:52:49.779
<v Speaker 3>Over here snitching, bruh. Like, you fucked up, nigga. You

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.140
<v Speaker 3>over here fucked, nigga. Like, you didn't let me get

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 3>my piece. Hey, to keep it a B, Shaq kept saying,

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 3>he was like, yeah, I did say something, nigga. I'm like,

0:52:57.180 --> 0:53:02.010
<v Speaker 3>what's up? Hey, at least he kept it a B.

0:53:02.030 --> 0:53:03.190
<v Speaker 3>He ain't lying about it. Yeah.

0:53:06.190 --> 0:53:07.030
<v Speaker 4>I respect Ellington.

0:53:07.050 --> 0:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey man, why the fuck you doing

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:12.060
<v Speaker 1>that shit? Snitching and shit. And by the way, since

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:16.140
<v Speaker 1>we snitching... Oh yeah, I know, nigga.

0:53:16.380 --> 0:53:19.390
<v Speaker 3>I know what you're doing. I literally know who you

0:53:19.430 --> 0:53:20.290
<v Speaker 3>fucked last night.

0:53:20.350 --> 0:53:24.529
<v Speaker 4>Fuck boy. He wasn't smooth, though. I ain't gonna lie.

0:53:24.550 --> 0:53:28.180
<v Speaker 4>Ellington was smooth with it, though. Yeah, I.

0:53:28.989 --> 0:53:29.709
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't smooth.

0:53:29.730 --> 0:53:32.030
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's why I like how they played on

0:53:32.410 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 2>he's Denise Huxtable and the other nigga's son. Because they're

0:53:35.780 --> 0:53:37.060
<v Speaker 2>going to be like, oh, that's why they don't get

0:53:37.100 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 2>along and shit like that.

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I thought that was funny.

0:53:41.300 --> 0:53:43.620
<v Speaker 2>That was the only good part about the older, again,

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.509
<v Speaker 2>with the younger generation, like how they... I want to

0:53:46.550 --> 0:53:50.930
<v Speaker 2>see that situation develop more. But real quick, they tackle,

0:53:50.969 --> 0:53:55.029
<v Speaker 2>like I mentioned, the African black versus African conversation.

0:53:55.540 --> 0:53:56.700
<v Speaker 4>Horribly.

0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:00.219
<v Speaker 2>I don't even like the fashion show thing because, bro,

0:54:00.260 --> 0:54:03.170
<v Speaker 2>they had them in the... They had them in the

0:54:03.230 --> 0:54:04.890
<v Speaker 2>side of the aisle. They didn't even put the niggas

0:54:04.930 --> 0:54:06.410
<v Speaker 2>on stage until.

0:54:06.150 --> 0:54:06.870
<v Speaker 4>The last one.

0:54:07.310 --> 0:54:09.350
<v Speaker 3>Like, if the clothes was that good, why are they

0:54:09.489 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 3>on the stage? They go on the stage for two seconds.

0:54:15.380 --> 0:54:18.109
<v Speaker 3>But to me, the... Ken, this is what I told y'all.

0:54:18.270 --> 0:54:20.010
<v Speaker 3>I'm East African. I ain't West African.

0:54:20.230 --> 0:54:24.270
<v Speaker 2>Those are the West African fans that I be talking about.

0:54:24.310 --> 0:54:27.380
<v Speaker 2>The ones that they be talking shit about y'all the most.

0:54:29.620 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 2>East Africans get.

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.380
<v Speaker 3>Along with black folks for the most part. We understand

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.779
<v Speaker 3>the struggle. We good with you. West Africans be acting

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:36.779
<v Speaker 3>all sadistic and shit.

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:41.319
<v Speaker 2>But, yeah, I just think this is, like, again, another

0:54:41.340 --> 0:54:44.900
<v Speaker 2>stereotype of why, like, it adds to more division than bridges.

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I feel like sometimes certain conversations, let the white folks

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 2>talk about that shit. Like, if you're going to show

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:54.590
<v Speaker 2>an episode about this, like, talk about it in a

0:54:54.610 --> 0:54:56.430
<v Speaker 2>conversation like this. Talk about it in a way where

0:54:56.469 --> 0:54:59.669
<v Speaker 2>we actually progressed and not still in the same points

0:54:59.730 --> 0:55:02.130
<v Speaker 2>that we talked about in the 90s or in the

0:55:02.230 --> 0:55:04.310
<v Speaker 2>80s or whatever you want to call it. Like, where

0:55:04.330 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 2>we're still talking about us being divided and one side

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.540
<v Speaker 2>looking down on the other side or both sides looking

0:55:10.580 --> 0:55:13.529
<v Speaker 2>down on each other. it's like, bro, this could have

0:55:13.550 --> 0:55:16.819
<v Speaker 2>been a great opportunity to show how much that Africans

0:55:16.860 --> 0:55:18.989
<v Speaker 2>understand the struggle of Black people in this country and

0:55:19.030 --> 0:55:22.100
<v Speaker 2>how much they owe Black people in this country when

0:55:22.140 --> 0:55:24.739
<v Speaker 2>it comes to being able to change your life in

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.819
<v Speaker 2>one generation by being born here or being in here. Like,

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:29.380
<v Speaker 2>you can't do that nowhere else in the world that

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.980
<v Speaker 2>I've known where a Black man can start off, like,

0:55:33.140 --> 0:55:34.220
<v Speaker 2>as humble as.

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 3>A LeBron James and end up being a LeBron James. Like,

0:55:39.380 --> 0:55:40.020
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying?

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.490
<v Speaker 2>So I just feel like Speak on that from that perspective,

0:55:43.510 --> 0:55:45.620
<v Speaker 2>where we progressed. Not doing the same shit. So that's

0:55:45.660 --> 0:55:49.670
<v Speaker 2>why I was cool with it. We got to see

0:55:50.070 --> 0:55:54.430
<v Speaker 2>Kofi stand up for himself. He wanted this black woman.

0:55:54.450 --> 0:55:57.149
<v Speaker 2>I love the fact that he wanted a dark-skinned black woman, too.

0:55:58.430 --> 0:56:00.290
<v Speaker 2>The whole time, and he was ten toes on that.

0:56:00.310 --> 0:56:02.450
<v Speaker 2>If it was fucked up, Ken, it's that she ain't

0:56:02.489 --> 0:56:11.500
<v Speaker 2>want him. AJ, the whole series, she talked about some,

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I ain't popping this pussy for nobody who don't love

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:17.359
<v Speaker 2>me and who don't really want me. And I can

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:19.899
<v Speaker 2>only give up my Virginia to somebody I really care about.

0:56:21.540 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 4>And she gave it up to an anime nigga, bro.

0:56:26.780 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 2>A comic book boy.

0:56:32.380 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Kobe was upset. He found out in the 11th hour.

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:43.450
<v Speaker 3>You slept with him? You talked to all that shit.

0:56:43.670 --> 0:56:46.469
<v Speaker 2>You had the Great Walls of China climbing over this

0:56:46.530 --> 0:56:49.770
<v Speaker 2>motherfucker to get through. And you gave it up to

0:56:49.830 --> 0:56:52.850
<v Speaker 2>him for what? Because he caught you on the bus?

0:56:55.090 --> 0:56:58.460
<v Speaker 3>It be like that sometimes, though. And he was upset.

0:56:58.500 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 3>He said, people. He said, people. He grabbed a bottle, Jay.

0:57:06.660 --> 0:57:10.810
<v Speaker 3>He grabbed a bottle and a model. And he was out.

0:57:11.570 --> 0:57:12.609
<v Speaker 3>He had a bad day, though.

0:57:13.830 --> 0:57:15.810
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he should have stayed as a building dick.

0:57:15.930 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to roll up on his ass.

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:28.130
<v Speaker 3>He said, where your papers at, nigga? He stood up straight.

0:57:33.510 --> 0:57:37.470
<v Speaker 2>AJ, you see how he was walking down the sidewalk.

0:57:36.690 --> 0:57:41.300
<v Speaker 3>With the bottle, with the bottle. He was like, that's awesome.

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 2>That nigga said, show me your papers.

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 3>He was like, oh, what's up?

0:57:44.580 --> 0:57:46.580
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I fuck with.

0:57:49.010 --> 0:57:51.810
<v Speaker 3>This show, kid. It got better towards the end.

0:57:56.170 --> 0:57:59.270
<v Speaker 1>Oh, man, they did. They did Kofu bad, bro. They

0:57:59.310 --> 0:58:00.870
<v Speaker 1>had to do it like that because he did get

0:58:00.930 --> 0:58:02.950
<v Speaker 1>better as the show went on. He learned a lot

0:58:02.970 --> 0:58:06.260
<v Speaker 1>because he was it's like he came to he went

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:09.140
<v Speaker 1>on that campus and it's like he all the shit

0:58:09.180 --> 0:58:11.700
<v Speaker 1>that he thought black Americans did. He was trying to

0:58:11.740 --> 0:58:14.490
<v Speaker 1>do it in the beginning, you know, in terms of

0:58:14.530 --> 0:58:16.790
<v Speaker 1>like trying to hit on women and say, oh, yeah,

0:58:16.810 --> 0:58:18.190
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get in a dress or whatever kind

0:58:18.210 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of corny shit he was saying. To where the girl

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:21.500
<v Speaker 1>at the end was like, yeah, you were just a

0:58:21.540 --> 0:58:24.140
<v Speaker 1>perv or whatever. Or I think even his voice was like, yeah,

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:26.430
<v Speaker 1>you went from a perv to being this guy. So

0:58:26.450 --> 0:58:28.230
<v Speaker 1>you did see this sort of.

0:58:28.330 --> 0:58:29.550
<v Speaker 4>Development of him.

0:58:30.130 --> 0:58:32.510
<v Speaker 1>And I think to the conversation we were having earlier,

0:58:32.530 --> 0:58:36.689
<v Speaker 1>I think that that conversation or what they were doing

0:58:36.730 --> 0:58:41.020
<v Speaker 1>in this show, that conversation is still happening.

0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 4>And it made sense for the parents.

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:48.460
<v Speaker 1>To behave the way that they did because I know

0:58:48.500 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a few that I can get them on the phone

0:58:50.220 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and we can go. I can go over to the

0:58:51.180 --> 0:58:53.620
<v Speaker 1>house right now and they'll still have those same ideas.

0:58:54.220 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, what is the generation behind it? How

0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:00.910
<v Speaker 1>are they thinking? Because Kofu was like, they ain't that bad.

0:59:00.990 --> 0:59:03.250
<v Speaker 1>He said, you only know a couple. You don't even

0:59:03.270 --> 0:59:05.890
<v Speaker 1>know enough to have this idea. But as soon as

0:59:05.930 --> 0:59:08.070
<v Speaker 1>he saw Rashida, he was like, what the fuck is

0:59:08.090 --> 0:59:08.570
<v Speaker 1>her books?

0:59:09.070 --> 0:59:09.750
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah.

0:59:10.140 --> 0:59:17.770
<v Speaker 3>Stormed off. Hey, Ken, I kid you not.

0:59:18.290 --> 0:59:20.930
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people who come from that

0:59:20.950 --> 0:59:24.970
<v Speaker 2>type of family. And that shit is always hilarious. Because

0:59:25.030 --> 0:59:27.669
<v Speaker 2>both sides do it. Y'all talk so much shit about

0:59:27.750 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Africans and the way that's like there. But when they

0:59:31.820 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 2>talk shit about y'all, it be from a factual standpoint

0:59:34.420 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 2>that's hilarious but so rude. She's a beautiful woman. You

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:42.340
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying? His first thing was, fuck all that.

0:59:42.580 --> 0:59:45.030
<v Speaker 3>Where this motherfucker books at? This supposed to be a college.

0:59:45.110 --> 0:59:45.350
<v Speaker 1>Ain't it?

0:59:45.550 --> 0:59:45.810
<v Speaker 3>He was.

0:59:49.180 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Bro.

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:52.130
<v Speaker 3>He's right, though. Where was he?

0:59:52.130 --> 0:59:59.470
<v Speaker 5>I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.

1:00:00.530 --> 1:00:02.550
<v Speaker 3>I felt some way. Remember last year, I hit you

1:00:02.630 --> 1:00:06.130
<v Speaker 3>up about my situation. I know you did.

1:00:06.150 --> 1:00:09.290
<v Speaker 5>She was like, my parents may have some questions about

1:00:09.330 --> 1:00:09.850
<v Speaker 5>what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to describe this shit here. He was like,

1:00:14.950 --> 1:00:19.140
<v Speaker 3>Why do you do that? I told you, Jay.

1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Again, I grew up with African parents, bro. I even

1:00:23.500 --> 1:00:26.840
<v Speaker 2>think this is just more like children's of immigrants, second generation.

1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:33.580
<v Speaker 3>The way they ask questions, it hits right direct. We don't... Americans, people, when.

1:00:33.590 --> 1:00:36.510
<v Speaker 2>You watch TV shows, it's so hilarious how we dance around,

1:00:36.550 --> 1:00:40.510
<v Speaker 2>turn the conversation, whatever. They cut through all that shit.

1:00:40.770 --> 1:00:42.790
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about all that. The longer you talk,

1:00:42.830 --> 1:00:47.370
<v Speaker 2>the more bullshit you say. I really cut to all that.

1:00:47.390 --> 1:00:51.530
<v Speaker 3>Why? It reminds me of that interview with the dude.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, why is you gay? That's how I felt

1:00:57.720 --> 1:01:00.920
<v Speaker 3>in that moment, too. It's just like, I don't know

1:01:00.940 --> 1:01:01.940
<v Speaker 3>how to explain that.

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't have an explanation, bro. Where's her books?

1:01:08.360 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 4>Damn, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>She working.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, Jay, the question was, when did you see her? No,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't have books because she was, she was, Freddie,

1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:20.640
<v Speaker 2>shout out to Freddie.

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<v Speaker 4>She was her favorite.

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:23.860
<v Speaker 3>She was on our shit. No, she was, that one,

1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 3>she was really going on our shit. She's a studious student.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why it was even funnier when he asked, like,

1:01:28.220 --> 1:01:30.360
<v Speaker 5>where her book, like, nigga, she working.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also understand why you asking that because it's

1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:34.440
<v Speaker 3>her school, but. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that shit was funny. Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 2>But, moving forward, I guess, to kind of wrap this up,

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<v Speaker 2>I did like the cameos they brought up with as

1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:50.200
<v Speaker 2>far as like the old cast, even the side characters

1:01:50.260 --> 1:01:52.300
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. I forgot the two women name,

1:01:52.740 --> 1:01:56.400
<v Speaker 2>but they were like the catty women of the younger generation,

1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:57.620
<v Speaker 2>the latest generation of.

1:01:57.640 --> 1:02:00.720
<v Speaker 3>The, a different world from back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Dwayne had to call up the, he had

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<v Speaker 2>to gather up everybody, all the alums for this end

1:02:08.090 --> 1:02:11.330
<v Speaker 2>of the year gala to raise money and all that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>This is where we see Jada Pinka come back, Ken,

1:02:14.450 --> 1:02:15.280
<v Speaker 3>and also Byron.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think about those introductions and how they

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<v Speaker 2>tied back into the story?

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because it kind of took me back to, like,

1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:25.860
<v Speaker 1>it just reminded me, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn, man, they were really good together.

1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You could see the chemistry that they had throughout the years, like,

1:02:32.340 --> 1:02:37.710
<v Speaker 1>playing out on screen. Even when Shaquille's dad, Ron, when

1:02:37.790 --> 1:02:40.530
<v Speaker 1>I hit on Freddie, you know, was talking shit to Freddie, like,

1:02:41.140 --> 1:02:44.040
<v Speaker 1>they had a moment to be back in that world in.

1:02:43.980 --> 1:02:45.040
<v Speaker 4>A different world as adults.

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<v Speaker 1>And I, and I was thinking, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of to what you were saying earlier, if they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of slow walk this in and started with the adults,

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the adults with having kids in college and

1:02:57.650 --> 1:03:00.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe do like a sort of a hybrid model, 60,

1:03:00.480 --> 1:03:01.689
<v Speaker 1>40 or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then handed it over to the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it could have worked because a lot of these guys,

1:03:06.750 --> 1:03:10.130
<v Speaker 1>these are their first time acting. When I was looking

1:03:10.150 --> 1:03:11.790
<v Speaker 1>it up, they don't have a lot of acting jobs,

1:03:11.830 --> 1:03:14.340
<v Speaker 1>you can tell. And that would have gave them some

1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:18.360
<v Speaker 1>more experience. And then, to what Jalen was saying, we

1:03:18.380 --> 1:03:20.800
<v Speaker 1>would have became more attached to them and more drawn

1:03:20.820 --> 1:03:21.660
<v Speaker 1>into their stories.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing them kind of get back together and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bounce off one another.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>It was all good.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the epitome of why it's my problem with

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<v Speaker 5>this show. When Byron went and saw Dwayne and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I know you ain't too proud to beg, obviously. You

1:03:49.830 --> 1:03:50.510
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good line. They ruined the line by

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<v Speaker 3>having Dwayne say, damn, he got me there. He didn't

1:03:57.300 --> 1:03:59.880
<v Speaker 3>need to say that shit. Why was that even put there, bro?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like y'all have good ideas, good shit, and then

1:04:03.340 --> 1:04:05.180
<v Speaker 5>you just undercut it with bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the epitome of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was the best line of the series,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did feel like you undercut it by just

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledging the fact that it was a good line.

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<v Speaker 3>However, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>He probably would have said that back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I'm not looking at this show or the old

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<v Speaker 2>show and Rose Colored Glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>They did a lot of the same.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at the DNA of A Different World,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still within the new show. It's just that, like

1:04:31.570 --> 1:04:33.690
<v Speaker 2>I was saying, for some reason it just hit differently

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<v Speaker 2>because I guess we just had more, maybe to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>more seasoned actors by that point in time when they

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<v Speaker 2>did shit and also... The writing was just a lot

1:04:44.580 --> 1:04:49.680
<v Speaker 2>more detailed and better because we only are getting per episode,

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<v Speaker 2>not even Deborah. Deborah's probably getting five, six minutes an episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we get five, six minutes with Rashida, five,

1:04:57.500 --> 1:05:01.860
<v Speaker 2>six minutes with Amir, five, six minutes with Hazel. By

1:05:01.880 --> 1:05:02.980
<v Speaker 2>the time you get to the end of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>you really only got 20, 30.

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<v Speaker 3>Minutes of each person in a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just feel like you're still giving them room

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<v Speaker 2>to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>But, yeah, they're going to learn a lot from this

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<v Speaker 3>first season.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that this is something that– I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're hearing everything we're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think they're also happy they got a second season.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people watched it. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are tuning in.

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<v Speaker 5>They ain't hearing everything we're saying because they think they

1:05:27.860 --> 1:05:28.380
<v Speaker 5>did good.

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<v Speaker 3>People are talking about it like they did well. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see it. But, listen, how Mike always say, kid,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. Well, go ahead, kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the thing is, there are people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch TV as critically as I do or we do.

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<v Speaker 4>That do enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got in trouble watching this shit because I was

1:05:58.200 --> 1:05:59.740
<v Speaker 1>apparently supposed to watch it with my wife, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to watch it over again.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know her thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pray for you, Ken.

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<v Speaker 4>If I know her, I've.

1:06:08.860 --> 1:06:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Got a pretty good idea of what she'll think. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are people that are just like, you know what?

1:06:13.400 --> 1:06:15.220
<v Speaker 1>It has some issues, but I liked it and I

1:06:15.240 --> 1:06:18.960
<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it. I think the thing is, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like any little thing you can think of that Black

1:06:22.540 --> 1:06:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Baby should talk about, I have an issue with, they

1:06:24.100 --> 1:06:27.160
<v Speaker 1>put in the show and that was the issue. And

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<v Speaker 1>these things really do happen. The bomb threat shit happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the real shit. But it's just so surface level

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't spend a lot of time with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they throw in stuff just to try to

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<v Speaker 1>make a moment. And, you know, and, and the jokes

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<v Speaker 1>don't hit. They can't, they can't even fucking dance in

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking show. Like the dancing in the background look horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one part where Whitney and, and, uh, old

1:06:55.150 --> 1:06:58.270
<v Speaker 1>boy was, uh, and Kadeem were dancing. And when they,

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<v Speaker 1>when they cut at the gala, when they cut to them,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't even dancing for real.

1:07:02.210 --> 1:07:03.950
<v Speaker 4>They were, they, it was just like, they were, they

1:07:03.990 --> 1:07:05.350
<v Speaker 4>knew their scene was up and they.

1:07:05.250 --> 1:07:05.810
<v Speaker 3>Just turned around.

1:07:05.850 --> 1:07:07.870
<v Speaker 4>Whitney just turned around and started walking.

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<v Speaker 1>But, And then the other thing, I rolled my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>so hard, and then I had a thought, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>when they did fucking Can We Talk, bro, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to turn this shit off.

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<v Speaker 3>That shit was crazy, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>Can We Talk has.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Can We Talk must be like this generation's

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<v Speaker 1>Before I Let Go.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like... Yeah, probably. All I know is.

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<v Speaker 2>Before this show, this has nothing to do with the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hate that song because it's been everybody. I

1:07:42.830 --> 1:07:45.050
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say like a contrarian, but like everybody

1:07:45.090 --> 1:07:46.550
<v Speaker 2>loves it to the point where it's like you keep

1:07:46.930 --> 1:07:48.680
<v Speaker 2>doing it and singing it over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, I hate that song because it's now

1:07:50.920 --> 1:07:52.200
<v Speaker 3>not enjoyable no more.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime I hear people sing it, it's like, yeah, I

1:07:55.480 --> 1:07:58.170
<v Speaker 2>know this is a popular song. but I could give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You go to R &amp; B lounges, they always play,

1:08:03.030 --> 1:08:05.030
<v Speaker 5>you have some event, they are, like, it's that song

1:08:05.050 --> 1:08:07.870
<v Speaker 5>that everybody wants to, they want to sing along to.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm over it. I've been over it for a

1:08:09.950 --> 1:08:10.430
<v Speaker 4>while now.

1:08:12.740 --> 1:08:14.800
<v Speaker 2>But that's my great, I mean, other people are like

1:08:14.820 --> 1:08:16.660
<v Speaker 2>yelling at us talking about something. That's my song. I

1:08:16.660 --> 1:08:18.640
<v Speaker 2>don't fuck with y'all talking about it. That's great for you.

1:08:18.660 --> 1:08:21.460
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like, I've heard that song to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I still fuck with it. I still, I can

1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:25.380
<v Speaker 1>still love the song. I still sing the song when

1:08:25.420 --> 1:08:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I hear it. It's just like, But I also know

1:08:27.590 --> 1:08:30.750
<v Speaker 1>it's part of this meme internet culture sort of thing

1:08:31.170 --> 1:08:33.390
<v Speaker 1>because of the challenge that it had, that Tank did

1:08:33.410 --> 1:08:35.250
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So they're going to put it

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<v Speaker 1>in the show because it's a thing that's out there.

1:08:38.130 --> 1:08:40.990
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't feel authentic. It feels forced. And that

1:08:41.010 --> 1:08:44.170
<v Speaker 1>was kind of the thing. So it's just like, come on, man.

1:08:44.189 --> 1:08:48.410
<v Speaker 1>What are y'all doing? I do hope they get better.

1:08:48.630 --> 1:08:51.550
<v Speaker 1>I think they just got fresh new actors that they

1:08:51.570 --> 1:08:52.150
<v Speaker 1>gave jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>Great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they got fresh new writers that they hired.

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<v Speaker 1>that do the writing, the dialogue, and everything else. And,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this was their first time doing any of

1:09:02.180 --> 1:09:06.410
<v Speaker 1>this shit. And we'll see if if they get better. But,

1:09:07.370 --> 1:09:11.090
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a step below Dear White People and

1:09:11.110 --> 1:09:12.710
<v Speaker 1>Dear White People wasn't all that great.

1:09:12.770 --> 1:09:14.130
<v Speaker 4>It was it was a lot of messages in that

1:09:14.170 --> 1:09:15.250
<v Speaker 4>movie in that show, too.

1:09:15.870 --> 1:09:17.729
<v Speaker 2>They're white people that didn't end too well. It started

1:09:17.770 --> 1:09:20.299
<v Speaker 2>out really good. It did not end too well at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they were doing a lot too.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick before we wrap up, the Jasmine Guy discussion

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<v Speaker 2>of this all, I think that's also what brought a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of attention to the show about how she looked.

1:09:34.060 --> 1:09:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Even the cast member, I think Kadeem came out and said, like,

1:09:36.939 --> 1:09:39.380
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck y'all talking about? Everybody talked about her

1:09:39.400 --> 1:09:42.900
<v Speaker 2>from Joe Budden to should I listen to the Native Lamb,

1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Angela Ryan, all them Charlamagne and Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 3>What did y'all think about that conversation?

1:09:48.860 --> 1:09:49.380
<v Speaker 4>Fuck them.

1:09:51.470 --> 1:09:58.510
<v Speaker 3>It's really that simple. We all age, bro. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>really here. I think people also... I mean, I don't think... I.

1:10:05.250 --> 1:10:10.080
<v Speaker 5>Think she still looks fine. If I'm being completely honest...

1:10:10.729 --> 1:10:12.439
<v Speaker 5>I always thought Kimberly was the bad one.

1:10:12.580 --> 1:10:14.660
<v Speaker 3>Kimberly was the one. She had the one with the

1:10:14.700 --> 1:10:17.860
<v Speaker 3>2D on the tooth. I didn't say that. I said

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Kimberly.

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<v Speaker 5>Was the bad one and Freddie. Like, Whitley was still attractive. Like,

1:10:22.280 --> 1:10:23.930
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying she wasn't attractive. I'm just saying, like,

1:10:23.950 --> 1:10:27.090
<v Speaker 5>I always, like, I was more, like, attracted to, like,

1:10:27.130 --> 1:10:29.770
<v Speaker 5>Freddie and Kimberly. Like, those were the ones that were like, oh,

1:10:29.790 --> 1:10:30.000
<v Speaker 5>they bad.

1:10:30.750 --> 1:10:33.570
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think she's unattractive now. Like, she just aged. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>it is what it is. And I also give grace because.

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<v Speaker 3>We ate, like, being light as skin, you know what

1:10:40.410 --> 1:10:42.170
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying? I was light as skin. I ain't trying

1:10:42.189 --> 1:10:45.290
<v Speaker 3>to hear all that shit, bro. You know what I'm saying?

1:10:45.310 --> 1:10:47.009
<v Speaker 3>The only thing I was going to say was.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't go to the internet to feel good. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the internet is meant to be a

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<v Speaker 2>space to feel good. I think the internet is just

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be a space to share things. Whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to, you can share it.

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<v Speaker 4>Your opinion.

1:11:08.020 --> 1:11:08.940
<v Speaker 3>Your.

1:11:08.660 --> 1:11:13.820
<v Speaker 2>Food recipes, your twerk videos, your TED Talks, whatever you want.

1:11:14.670 --> 1:11:16.030
<v Speaker 2>But it's not a place to feel good. So I

1:11:16.130 --> 1:11:19.299
<v Speaker 2>feel like the internet conversation that they had about it,

1:11:19.310 --> 1:11:23.250
<v Speaker 2>of course it wasn't going to be nice. Anybody who

1:11:23.890 --> 1:11:25.650
<v Speaker 2>we remember what you used to look like and we

1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:28.040
<v Speaker 2>know what you look like now, no one's ever going

1:11:28.080 --> 1:11:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to be like, this very rarely is a compliment. Because

1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I think back in the day, she was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the baddest women out. Everybody wanted Whitley. I remember hearing

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation. And now I think she's still, like Jay said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she looks bad. I just think that

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<v Speaker 2>once you hit a certain age in mass media, we

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<v Speaker 2>just like, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you're over with. You just move past you. And

1:11:53.170 --> 1:11:54.070
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Distracted a lot of people from the show, which is,

1:11:58.630 --> 1:12:00.970
<v Speaker 2>I think, another reason why I got a lot of attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's like, all right, what are they talking about?

1:12:02.370 --> 1:12:03.950
<v Speaker 3>What does she look like? Let's go to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm really nervous about season two, because now

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<v Speaker 2>that that conversation is done, you know what she look like.

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<v Speaker 3>Are y'all going to come back?

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a lot of conversation. I didn't know what

1:12:19.740 --> 1:12:23.590
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about. I knew that when I started

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<v Speaker 1>watching the show, I was curious. And then when I

1:12:27.550 --> 1:12:30.510
<v Speaker 1>started watching, I was like, oh, okay, I see. So

1:12:32.270 --> 1:12:34.490
<v Speaker 1>I got it as soon as she popped up on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's shocking to a lot of people that probably

1:12:41.920 --> 1:12:46.280
<v Speaker 1>hasn't seen her in a very long time. And we

1:12:46.939 --> 1:12:50.880
<v Speaker 1>remember the old Jasmine guy. I feel so bad for

1:12:50.920 --> 1:12:54.080
<v Speaker 1>her because that has to be rough on her. You know, and,

1:12:54.300 --> 1:12:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's responded as well, but she remembers the heydays.

1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:01.780
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing about getting old that I wish

1:13:01.800 --> 1:13:05.099
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot more discussion about is that, you know,

1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:10.530
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things change. And, you know, it's hard to,

1:13:10.550 --> 1:13:13.790
<v Speaker 1>it's sometimes going to be very difficult aging gracefully or

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<v Speaker 1>not accepting that change. And when I was watching, though,

1:13:17.890 --> 1:13:20.769
<v Speaker 1>compared to a lot of the other people, I was

1:13:20.990 --> 1:13:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a little curious and like, you know, she's 64. And

1:13:26.080 --> 1:13:30.189
<v Speaker 1>it is a very dramatic sort of thing that happened

1:13:30.229 --> 1:13:33.290
<v Speaker 1>for her. So I was kind of curious. And, you know,

1:13:33.330 --> 1:13:35.370
<v Speaker 1>I read that she was doing Botox and stuff like that.

1:13:35.410 --> 1:13:36.930
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if that has something to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the outside of just natural aging, you know, just for

1:13:39.970 --> 1:13:40.590
<v Speaker 1>her to kind of.

1:13:40.590 --> 1:13:44.439
<v Speaker 4>Maintain the beauty that she had. I don't know.

1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:46.519
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fucked up that they're doing it to her.

1:13:46.540 --> 1:13:51.099
<v Speaker 1>And it's very, very sad. The other thing I noticed, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Even like Papa Pope, he looked a lot older than

1:13:58.160 --> 1:14:03.050
<v Speaker 1>he used to. A lot of them guys started to....

1:14:02.200 --> 1:14:02.760
<v Speaker 4>What's her name?

1:14:05.060 --> 1:14:05.519
<v Speaker 3>Ah, shit.

1:14:05.540 --> 1:14:07.099
<v Speaker 4>She came back. Lena James.

1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:14.890
<v Speaker 1>Jada Pinkett. Yeah, so it's a natural thing that happens.

1:14:17.590 --> 1:14:19.689
<v Speaker 1>But she was the most shocking out of all of them.

1:14:19.710 --> 1:14:22.059
<v Speaker 1>But I think a lot of them look good. For

1:14:22.070 --> 1:14:26.380
<v Speaker 1>the age. Colonel Taylor. Yeah, Colonel Taylor looked good.

1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:29.260
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was going to look the older. Because

1:14:29.300 --> 1:14:30.559
<v Speaker 2>he was older. It seemed like he was older than

1:14:30.580 --> 1:14:32.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody at the time. I thought he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>come back.

1:14:33.939 --> 1:14:34.460
<v Speaker 4>Looking like Mr.

1:14:34.479 --> 1:14:34.679
<v Speaker 3>Burns.

1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the one that said, I still got it. She

1:14:37.120 --> 1:14:41.980
<v Speaker 4>looks good. Freddie. Freddie looks good as well. Aging is

1:14:42.090 --> 1:14:42.400
<v Speaker 4>a thing.

1:14:42.439 --> 1:14:45.010
<v Speaker 1>And I think that people just got to accept that

1:14:45.030 --> 1:14:46.770
<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen. I think the people that are

1:14:46.810 --> 1:14:49.300
<v Speaker 1>talking has to realize that. At some point, that's going

1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:50.260
<v Speaker 1>to be your motherfucking ass.

1:14:50.540 --> 1:14:51.100
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing that a lot of people forget, bro. Like,

1:14:54.700 --> 1:14:55.540
<v Speaker 4>it's going to happen.

1:14:56.020 --> 1:14:59.740
<v Speaker 1>And watching the show was really a stark reminder of

1:14:59.780 --> 1:15:03.769
<v Speaker 1>the fact that even myself, I'm old now because I'm

1:15:03.780 --> 1:15:05.660
<v Speaker 1>looking at a lot of these guys that I grew

1:15:05.729 --> 1:15:08.070
<v Speaker 1>up watching when the show first debuted in 1987.

1:15:08.050 --> 1:15:08.890
<v Speaker 4>You know, and I was 11, bro.

1:15:15.100 --> 1:15:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Watching this so now i'm watching this like god damn

1:15:18.140 --> 1:15:20.939
<v Speaker 1>bro like this time have went by fast and there

1:15:20.960 --> 1:15:23.019
<v Speaker 1>are people watch watching this show now they're gonna have

1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that same moment if well they ain't gonna do another

1:15:25.300 --> 1:15:29.019
<v Speaker 1>reboot of whatever show that they're watching together as as

1:15:29.100 --> 1:15:32.320
<v Speaker 1>a general as a generation so it's unfortunate they're doing

1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.540
<v Speaker 1>her like that i'm glad everybody's sticking up for and

1:15:34.780 --> 1:15:41.110
<v Speaker 1>and and defending her you know and and um Yeah, yeah.

1:15:41.250 --> 1:15:43.650
<v Speaker 1>It is what it is, unfortunately. It's just, like you said,

1:15:43.710 --> 1:15:45.450
<v Speaker 1>a dark side of the internet. And I don't even

1:15:45.470 --> 1:15:47.180
<v Speaker 1>think it's the internet. I think if you didn't even

1:15:47.189 --> 1:15:49.679
<v Speaker 1>have the internet, that conversation was still going to happen

1:15:49.689 --> 1:15:53.380
<v Speaker 1>because we all remember what Whitney, what she looked like.

1:15:54.240 --> 1:15:56.460
<v Speaker 1>And we were not ready. People were not ready to

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<v Speaker 1>see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Any other thoughts on this show? Are y'all watching season two?

1:16:05.680 --> 1:16:05.820
<v Speaker 6>Nope.

1:16:07.830 --> 1:16:08.470
<v Speaker 3>I'm watching season two.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

1:16:09.650 --> 1:16:11.350
<v Speaker 4>I probably ain't no watching. I watched all of Dear

1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:11.939
<v Speaker 4>White People.

1:16:11.950 --> 1:16:14.420
<v Speaker 3>I probably ain't no watching. Yeah, I'm watching.

1:16:14.680 --> 1:16:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Just saying. It won't be on the top of my list, though, Nick.

1:16:18.760 --> 1:16:21.550
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't on the top of your list now, either.

1:16:21.660 --> 1:16:24.290
<v Speaker 4>No, it wasn't. My confirmations were correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay, just hit play, go to sleep. We just need

1:16:28.390 --> 1:16:32.389
<v Speaker 2>to get the spins up. That's all I'm saying.

1:16:32.510 --> 1:16:35.070
<v Speaker 3>Nah, I can't do that, bro. Just like you said,

1:16:35.110 --> 1:16:37.310
<v Speaker 3>I can't get the spins up. Why get spins up

1:16:37.370 --> 1:16:40.060
<v Speaker 3>on bad shit? Because like you said, it's okay. We

1:16:40.080 --> 1:16:40.500
<v Speaker 3>can have it.

1:16:41.939 --> 1:16:43.180
<v Speaker 5>Just because we can have it don't mean I just

1:16:43.200 --> 1:16:44.950
<v Speaker 5>got to get the spins up on it. Those are

1:16:44.970 --> 1:16:47.680
<v Speaker 5>two different, those two, you enjoy it and other people

1:16:47.720 --> 1:16:49.100
<v Speaker 5>enjoy it, cool, but I'm not just going to do

1:16:49.150 --> 1:16:50.260
<v Speaker 5>it just to get the spins up.

1:16:51.320 --> 1:16:54.979
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, man. Yeah, I

1:16:55.020 --> 1:16:55.939
<v Speaker 3>ain't shit.

1:16:56.120 --> 1:16:56.960
<v Speaker 4>I know one thing, Nick.

1:16:56.979 --> 1:17:00.080
<v Speaker 3>What did Byron say? Byron said about that quartet, that

1:17:00.120 --> 1:17:00.979
<v Speaker 3>quartet horn.

1:17:06.140 --> 1:17:06.980
<v Speaker 4>I know one thing, Nick.

1:17:08.689 --> 1:17:11.210
<v Speaker 1>Shaquille definitely going to be back because Deion popped up

1:17:11.270 --> 1:17:16.690
<v Speaker 1>and take his ass to Colorado.

1:17:17.189 --> 1:17:20.830
<v Speaker 2>That goofy ass photo that's clearly fake of him. They

1:17:20.870 --> 1:17:23.210
<v Speaker 2>could even get Deion to do a picture with him

1:17:23.250 --> 1:17:23.889
<v Speaker 2>for the show.

1:17:24.150 --> 1:17:26.910
<v Speaker 3>They just use his likeness.

1:17:27.050 --> 1:17:28.110
<v Speaker 4>All right.

1:17:28.610 --> 1:17:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Deion ain't doing shit in Colorado. He probably still say

1:17:31.450 --> 1:17:33.460
<v Speaker 3>cut the check. He probably still say cut the check

1:17:33.500 --> 1:17:34.460
<v Speaker 3>just to use his likeness.

1:17:35.780 --> 1:17:37.900
<v Speaker 4>What y'all think about Summer Walker popping up in.

1:17:39.650 --> 1:17:42.710
<v Speaker 3>Oh, she asking to cut the check too. For nothing.

1:17:43.729 --> 1:17:44.890
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely nothing.

1:17:46.390 --> 1:17:49.180
<v Speaker 1>When Whitney, this was also a turning point. I know

1:17:49.200 --> 1:17:51.340
<v Speaker 1>we're wrapping up, but when this motherfucker, oh, that was

1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:52.460
<v Speaker 1>one more thing I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, real quick.

1:17:54.680 --> 1:17:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's, they're tied together. But when she paid $ 10, 000

1:17:57.200 --> 1:18:00.660
<v Speaker 1>for some fucking lashes, bro, like what, what are we

1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:03.100
<v Speaker 1>doing in this show? Like, why are y'all just throwing it?

1:18:03.180 --> 1:18:06.889
<v Speaker 1>I know that Jasmine's, her parents got money, but y'all

1:18:06.910 --> 1:18:10.519
<v Speaker 1>throwing around like, if like, that ain't like, that's like

1:18:11.240 --> 1:18:12.100
<v Speaker 1>insignificant to her.

1:18:12.140 --> 1:18:12.800
<v Speaker 4>It probably is.

1:18:13.420 --> 1:18:16.580
<v Speaker 1>It just felt like such a ridiculous number to put

1:18:16.860 --> 1:18:20.240
<v Speaker 1>in here to later use.

1:18:20.820 --> 1:18:22.930
<v Speaker 4>It for the show. It just felt like, like, what

1:18:22.970 --> 1:18:23.430
<v Speaker 4>are we doing?

1:18:24.090 --> 1:18:26.690
<v Speaker 1>All of that to tie to the part where somehow

1:18:26.729 --> 1:18:30.490
<v Speaker 1>some way when she's sitting at the desk after the protest,

1:18:30.510 --> 1:18:31.689
<v Speaker 1>they got everything turned around.

1:18:31.770 --> 1:18:33.150
<v Speaker 4>She just happened to see the letter.

1:18:34.490 --> 1:18:37.530
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why she got in college. And because

1:18:37.570 --> 1:18:39.810
<v Speaker 1>she was a nepo baby, which is all the way

1:18:39.830 --> 1:18:42.240
<v Speaker 1>back to the first episode. And she goes to the

1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:44.400
<v Speaker 1>parents and be like, yeah, you guys can't trust me

1:18:44.460 --> 1:18:45.439
<v Speaker 1>to get in on my own.

1:18:45.700 --> 1:18:46.809
<v Speaker 4>Well, guess what, motherfucker?

1:18:46.820 --> 1:18:49.900
<v Speaker 1>Your ass wasn't gonna get in we know that as

1:18:50.120 --> 1:18:51.979
<v Speaker 1>a fact you were not gonna get in this college

1:18:52.560 --> 1:18:54.900
<v Speaker 1>nick got she was she what two points on me

1:18:55.060 --> 1:18:57.740
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't gonna get in she had all kind of

1:18:57.760 --> 1:19:01.000
<v Speaker 1>learning disabilities and issues something like that they had to

1:19:01.040 --> 1:19:03.259
<v Speaker 1>pay her ass to get in this damn school now

1:19:03.580 --> 1:19:07.360
<v Speaker 1>she took advantage of it and leveraged it But stop

1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:09.420
<v Speaker 1>acting like you have issues.

1:19:09.580 --> 1:19:13.519
<v Speaker 2>What we're realizing is that Dwayne and Whitney really had

1:19:13.550 --> 1:19:15.910
<v Speaker 2>a mistake baby. Because I think they mentioned that in

1:19:15.930 --> 1:19:17.769
<v Speaker 2>the early part of this season. They were like, yeah,

1:19:17.790 --> 1:19:20.229
<v Speaker 2>we didn't expect her, but she here now. You can

1:19:20.250 --> 1:19:22.189
<v Speaker 2>tell they treated her, they raised her like that. Because

1:19:22.270 --> 1:19:25.310
<v Speaker 2>they didn't know she had a learning disability. They didn't

1:19:25.330 --> 1:19:27.170
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of things about her that they was

1:19:27.210 --> 1:19:31.040
<v Speaker 2>finding out in real time with us. But I'll also say, like,

1:19:31.960 --> 1:19:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, um, The way she found out about

1:19:40.040 --> 1:19:43.019
<v Speaker 2>Shaq being with another woman was also just kind of like, what?

1:19:43.260 --> 1:19:45.510
<v Speaker 5>I was about to say, Nick, that's what I was

1:19:45.550 --> 1:19:46.509
<v Speaker 5>going to next.

1:19:46.530 --> 1:19:50.790
<v Speaker 2>Because I was like, you mean to tell me you

1:19:50.830 --> 1:19:54.030
<v Speaker 2>go into somebody else's room, dig through their shit.

1:19:54.070 --> 1:19:55.830
<v Speaker 3>First of all, that's a black woman no-no. You don't

1:19:55.850 --> 1:20:00.700
<v Speaker 3>do that shit. Dig through their shit. Then you notice

1:20:00.720 --> 1:20:02.500
<v Speaker 3>something in a room and then you dig through her shit.

1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:04.580
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what? What?

1:20:05.470 --> 1:20:09.430
<v Speaker 1>And then you get your ass the Tony Braxton haircut.

1:20:09.570 --> 1:20:11.389
<v Speaker 4>So now... Oh my God, bro.

1:20:11.430 --> 1:20:13.710
<v Speaker 3>This shit... Listen, Nick.

1:20:14.729 --> 1:20:18.590
<v Speaker 5>She put two and two together because she washed his

1:20:18.650 --> 1:20:19.330
<v Speaker 5>nigga clothes.

1:20:21.870 --> 1:20:27.370
<v Speaker 3>Now, you do look guilty. But nigga, you can't talk

1:20:27.410 --> 1:20:28.189
<v Speaker 3>your way out of that one.

1:20:30.910 --> 1:20:31.630
<v Speaker 4>But you mean.

1:20:32.760 --> 1:20:34.030
<v Speaker 5>Because she washed his clothes.

1:20:34.450 --> 1:20:36.770
<v Speaker 3>First of all, Why her clothes there, nigga?

1:20:38.189 --> 1:20:40.570
<v Speaker 4>Off of one night. Off of one night stand, bro.

1:20:42.910 --> 1:20:45.800
<v Speaker 3>That was a terrible way for her to find out, bro.

1:20:46.120 --> 1:20:46.439
<v Speaker 4>Like, it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 5>I did like the scene she had when she confronted

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<v Speaker 5>the resident hall lady.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's when her... When she cut her hair, Ken,

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<v Speaker 3>that's when her acting got, like.

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<v Speaker 2>From then on, she was the best actor on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I really liked how she acted.

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<v Speaker 4>It was definitely better, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But, like, yeah, the way... Again, the way they found

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<v Speaker 3>out about things was just kind of like, what?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then him just being.

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<v Speaker 3>It was funny because he was upset about her with

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<v Speaker 3>the other guy. And he even knew it. He even

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<v Speaker 3>told his friend. He was like, oh, yeah, I am upset.

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<v Speaker 2>But if she found out, it's like, then why didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you tell her?

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<v Speaker 3>Because she was right. The one thing I really liked

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<v Speaker 3>about her character, she was like, I gave you ample... Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew for a while. Yeah, she did. But I

1:21:26.490 --> 1:21:28.990
<v Speaker 3>gave you ample time. He over here talking about, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way... No, that was good. That was the most.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a black woman staple, though. I know for a while, nigga,

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<v Speaker 5>I gave you an opportunity to tell me, nigga. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>I've known for a minute, and you... Because they kept saying,

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<v Speaker 5>y'all haven't been talking for weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. She has very little room to stand on, though.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to say that. I ain't going to

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<v Speaker 3>say that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the whole ass kiss he didn't know about.

1:21:53.360 --> 1:21:56.099
<v Speaker 3>She told him, though. She ended up telling him.

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<v Speaker 4>Look how long it took.

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<v Speaker 3>She still told him.

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<v Speaker 5>And they weren't together. Wait, no, they were together by then.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think the other thing is, I lost my

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<v Speaker 5>thought because I was about to defend a black woman.

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<v Speaker 4>She had been wet dreams about this motherfucker. That's all

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<v Speaker 4>the reasons she told.

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<v Speaker 2>That's between her and God.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You going to yell at me for thoughts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We all getting fucked up. But also, he kissed her.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give her the lead wig. She admitted

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<v Speaker 3>she liked it. Nah, I ain't doing that, Jay. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not doing that, Jay. I'm not doing that, Jay.

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<v Speaker 4>She didn't push back.

1:22:31.610 --> 1:22:34.769
<v Speaker 2>She went back for more than that. Hey, I'm an

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<v Speaker 2>equal opportunity, Jay. If it don't work for us, it

1:22:36.370 --> 1:22:41.590
<v Speaker 2>don't work for them. Imagine you saying that, come on.

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<v Speaker 3>She went, what? Did you kiss her back? She kissed

1:22:44.740 --> 1:22:48.300
<v Speaker 3>that nigga back. Yeah, you're right. It would work if

1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:50.379
<v Speaker 3>you do it immediately, though. If you tell her immediately,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get out of that.

1:22:52.780 --> 1:22:55.939
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it has to be in 24 hours. He

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<v Speaker 2>waited until spring semester.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:03.780 --> 1:23:07.780
<v Speaker 2>Going home for the summer. He overreacted like shit sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, nigga, get the fuck out of here. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the way she cussed his ass out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was, oh yeah, and Amir ain't shit either.

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<v Speaker 1>Hazel just had the best night of her life. She

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<v Speaker 1>got this award and she ain't gonna sit here and

1:23:21.210 --> 1:23:22.670
<v Speaker 1>tell him, by the way, I slept with your man.

1:23:25.650 --> 1:23:27.150
<v Speaker 4>She's like, why'd you do that?

1:23:27.830 --> 1:23:30.190
<v Speaker 3>She's like, don't lie on him like that. I do

1:23:30.229 --> 1:23:31.850
<v Speaker 3>lie on him like that. AJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Too late.

1:23:32.229 --> 1:23:48.959
<v Speaker 3>Too late. She said some deep down inside.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you was telling the truth, but I just,

1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:52.900
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just wanted to, I was just like.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, bro.

1:23:54.500 --> 1:23:58.290
<v Speaker 2>Like y'all, y'all, y'all paper mache this storyline. Like this

1:23:58.310 --> 1:24:01.330
<v Speaker 2>storyline could have been a lot more interesting, a lot more.

1:24:02.870 --> 1:24:03.849
<v Speaker 2>And then you just forgive him.

1:24:03.930 --> 1:24:07.080
<v Speaker 3>And he's, he knew you was with him.

1:24:07.939 --> 1:24:11.930
<v Speaker 2>Like, and he's like, and he knew he was coming

1:24:12.050 --> 1:24:13.210
<v Speaker 2>on to him because.

1:24:12.970 --> 1:24:14.930
<v Speaker 3>He did the whole wink thing on the FaceTime.

1:24:14.970 --> 1:24:16.710
<v Speaker 5>And it's like, bro, as soon as I was seen,

1:24:16.729 --> 1:24:19.139
<v Speaker 5>I was like, hey, bro, let's link up some other

1:24:19.150 --> 1:24:20.960
<v Speaker 5>time with the group, whatever. You know what I'm saying?

1:24:20.979 --> 1:24:23.660
<v Speaker 5>If you was really friends with her. And he don't

1:24:23.680 --> 1:24:25.780
<v Speaker 5>come and tell us, I'm so sorry.

1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:27.840
<v Speaker 2>And then he was like, but at the same time,

1:24:28.080 --> 1:24:29.430
<v Speaker 2>he was like, but at the same time, why you

1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:30.309
<v Speaker 2>talk to me like that?

1:24:30.370 --> 1:24:34.350
<v Speaker 3>I was like, bro. are you serious like it.

1:24:35.910 --> 1:24:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Was like I was like Amir had the he had

1:24:39.060 --> 1:24:45.280
<v Speaker 2>the cojones to pull off what he did because I

1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:47.980
<v Speaker 2>swear another black woman slid his throat for the way

1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:49.220
<v Speaker 2>he was talking to her well she.

1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:51.300
<v Speaker 1>Ain't shit either she got a whole ass boyfriend I

1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:54.780
<v Speaker 1>mean I forgot about to cheat again Until that motherfucker said,

1:24:54.820 --> 1:24:55.830
<v Speaker 1>he on his way to the.

1:24:57.080 --> 1:24:57.440
<v Speaker 4>He done.

1:24:58.090 --> 1:25:02.330
<v Speaker 3>She like, what? You right, kid. She got a whole.

1:25:02.870 --> 1:25:07.010
<v Speaker 2>She got a whole fiance in Rushville, Nebraska, wherever the

1:25:07.050 --> 1:25:08.030
<v Speaker 2>hell she come from.

1:25:08.490 --> 1:25:10.030
<v Speaker 4>And she.

1:25:11.189 --> 1:25:17.470
<v Speaker 2>Over here getting mad because she don't know if a

1:25:17.530 --> 1:25:19.570
<v Speaker 2>nigga like her or her best friend.

1:25:20.729 --> 1:25:21.350
<v Speaker 1>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 4>And you right, she was risking.

1:25:23.420 --> 1:25:25.020
<v Speaker 3>She was going to risk it all for a nigga

1:25:25.040 --> 1:25:25.759
<v Speaker 3>named Bunny.

1:25:25.780 --> 1:25:26.820
<v Speaker 6>Oh, man.

1:25:27.400 --> 1:25:28.250
<v Speaker 4>I'm so.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, he might get with Amir, too. She better watch out. Hey, bro,

1:25:35.270 --> 1:25:39.960
<v Speaker 4>Amir over here. Hey. Amir. Hey, Nick, remember he said,

1:25:39.979 --> 1:25:41.500
<v Speaker 4>my body count higher than yours.

1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:45.220
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was about to say, Amir got that aura, kid.

1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:48.860
<v Speaker 2>They just, they flocked. You see, the other, the nigga

1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:50.020
<v Speaker 2>that she was with, what was his name?

1:25:50.060 --> 1:25:50.770
<v Speaker 3>I forgot his name.

1:25:51.070 --> 1:25:51.589
<v Speaker 4>The Hooper?

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, and he said, I don't know, man.

1:25:54.410 --> 1:25:56.890
<v Speaker 3>He was like, he was like, Jesus.

1:25:58.770 --> 1:26:02.179
<v Speaker 2>He was trying to come out to him. He was like,

1:26:02.220 --> 1:26:03.640
<v Speaker 2>he ain't know what to say. I don't even know

1:26:03.660 --> 1:26:05.360
<v Speaker 2>how to say what he said because I don't want

1:26:05.380 --> 1:26:07.040
<v Speaker 2>to paraphrase it because it's a sensitive topic.

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<v Speaker 4>Amir put it on him, bro. Amir put it on him.

1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:11.460
<v Speaker 3>Hey, he was like, hey, bro, if you want to come,

1:26:11.479 --> 1:26:13.240
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying?

1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:14.219
<v Speaker 4>Meet me at the spot.

1:26:14.479 --> 1:26:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:26:15.020 --> 1:26:16.559
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying?

1:26:16.640 --> 1:26:18.380
<v Speaker 1>He got up. He was like, yeah, I'll be there.

1:26:18.660 --> 1:26:21.019
<v Speaker 1>And she gave him the coat sign. She was like, yeah,

1:26:21.050 --> 1:26:23.710
<v Speaker 1>you can go get him. He was like.

1:26:23.750 --> 1:26:24.090
<v Speaker 4>I bet.

1:26:24.979 --> 1:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>She is the most understanding friend in the world. I

1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:29.380
<v Speaker 2>don't even know how they still cool. Even if she

1:26:29.400 --> 1:26:31.620
<v Speaker 2>did forgive him and said, my bad for what I said.

1:26:31.650 --> 1:26:33.189
<v Speaker 2>It's like, all right, based off of that, I can't

1:26:33.229 --> 1:26:33.910
<v Speaker 2>fuck with you no more.

1:26:36.210 --> 1:26:40.030
<v Speaker 1>So this show doesn't represent y'all generation or the generation

1:26:40.070 --> 1:26:40.850
<v Speaker 1>behind y'all at all.

1:26:41.670 --> 1:26:44.950
<v Speaker 3>I think it represents, to me, it represents every generation.

1:26:44.990 --> 1:26:46.990
<v Speaker 2>I just think they're framing it in a way like,

1:26:47.330 --> 1:26:50.490
<v Speaker 2>this is what's going on in today's world. Um, and

1:26:50.530 --> 1:26:53.710
<v Speaker 2>it ain't that much different than y'all's all corny pun intended.

1:26:53.810 --> 1:26:56.229
<v Speaker 2>That's what I feel like they're trying to say.

1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:58.360
<v Speaker 1>But you said that that was one of the biggest

1:26:58.400 --> 1:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>takeaways because this show in 2026 still addressing the shit

1:27:04.660 --> 1:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>that happened in 1987 and the 90s racism, et cetera,

1:27:08.439 --> 1:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>et cetera.

1:27:08.800 --> 1:27:11.560
<v Speaker 4>It's just a new set of kids, bro. It's sad.

1:27:17.970 --> 1:27:20.110
<v Speaker 3>Any other thoughts, Jay? I ain't got no thoughts for

1:27:20.130 --> 1:27:20.690
<v Speaker 3>this shit, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, those are our thoughts on this show. Please let

1:27:25.660 --> 1:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>us know what you guys think. FPS Podcast is a

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<v Speaker 2>Reddit thread. That's also our handle for IG and Twitter. Please,

1:27:30.930 --> 1:27:33.170
<v Speaker 2>if you watch this show, tell your friends. They'll support

1:27:33.210 --> 1:27:35.250
<v Speaker 2>it for season two. Shout out to Debbie Allen and

1:27:35.270 --> 1:27:38.759
<v Speaker 2>the whole crew for bringing it back. And, yeah, I

1:27:38.770 --> 1:27:40.780
<v Speaker 2>guess I may do this as a solo pod, but

1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>we'll make it.

1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:45.340
<v Speaker 4>Hey, after talking about the mess, bro, I might be back.

1:27:45.420 --> 1:27:51.220
<v Speaker 3>I told you, kid. Hey, kid, I keep telling you.

1:27:51.540 --> 1:27:56.100
<v Speaker 2>When we unpack this shit, it's a lot better.

1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:57.830
<v Speaker 4>It ain't a carry-on, kid.

1:27:57.850 --> 1:27:59.110
<v Speaker 3>You got to check the bag.

1:28:01.830 --> 1:28:02.770
<v Speaker 4>It's a check-in.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll catch you on season two.

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<v Speaker 4>We out.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace.

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<v Speaker 4>Peace.