1 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: You know, some people they like their bourbon just to 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: be oaked. That's fine. Bourbon goes in a first used 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: chart oak barrel and get it. 4 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Some people they like they're oak. They like it the 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: bourbon to be oaked twice, perhaps double oaked. Fingers willy, 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: I do like double oaked. Those people are amateurs, oh, 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: because what's one better than double oaked? 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I cant you a hold bit triple oaked, triple oaked 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: d drink smoke. 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and that is America's favorite amateur drinker, 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: fingers ally. And this right here is the angels Envy 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: triple oak. Now there are brilliant bourbons, of course, and 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: of course I am a fan of some double oaked bourbons. 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: And you know how I feel about what for reserve 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: and the double oak, the double double, spectacular, spectacular stuff. 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: But came across this again on sale, fingers boy. 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: This is their bourbon finished in a blend of Hungarian 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: chinkapin and French oak barrels. And I said, that sounds 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: super fancy, coming in at ninety two proof. No applause, 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: fingers away, no applause. What's interesting is that I would 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: have expected darker I would have expected a more caramel. Look, 22 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: this is in laying in between orange and amber is 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: where the color is on this bourbon. 24 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: Right here? 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Can you talk about the bottle for a second. All 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: about the bottle is the classic. It's the angels Envy 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: bottle that says triple Oak, and it's got. 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: The Angel wings on the back. 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: It's got the Beautiful Side label there in the blue 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: and the gold. It's it's, as always an absolutely spectacl 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: presentation from the people at angels Envy. 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Bravo. 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Well done, well played. Check the nose on that fingers. 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: But boy, what does that got you doing? 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Okay, obviously there's some oak. You know what's really weird? 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: When I, yeah, there is. When I first it went away, but. 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: I almost got a hint of like a like a wine, 38 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: like a red wine. 39 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Briefly, and then. 40 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: That that was really subtle and I'm not really getting 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: that anymore, but that was the first thing that popped 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: into my head, that oak is there. 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a dark fruit. I do think that there is. 44 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: There is a real fruit richness uh in there. 45 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: Not necessarily an orchard, there's not a lot of I 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: think there's some wonderful oak going on here. There is 47 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: a touch of ethanol, even though it's signed to you 48 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: proof there is a. 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Touch of ethanol. A'm not getting a lot of vanila 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: or caramel. 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: I think that there's a real spice there that is more. 52 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: It's not ry spice, it's it's bready. 53 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: Oh, it's really nice, it is. It is really really nice. 54 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: I would argue, though, you really got to get your 55 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: nose in it, don't you. 56 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it's not overwhelming, it's not. It's not flowing 57 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: out there, no, for sure. But enough with the sniff 58 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: and fingers will this is the Angels and the triple 59 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Oak fingers will? 60 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? 61 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: We do not have an age stament. One would have 62 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: to believe it's at least four years. Hold on, right, 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: we know that you're. 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Not going to know stop it four years seven months. 65 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: That's just not not factual. Yes, nor even science. I've 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: been ready for this all day. All right, he's got in. 67 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: He's doing what is known as the Kentucky chew, moving 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: the juice around the palette, trying. 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: To get an understanding of the flavors. That's what you 70 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: want to do. 71 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm a believer in the two SIPs methodology. The first 72 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: sip to set the taste buds, the second ship to. 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Really get an idea of flavors. Fingers. 74 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: All right, wow, okay, First of all, are you all right? 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: Nice bit of and maybe it's from the popcorn. I 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: don't know, maybe it's monkeyed with my palate. 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: I doubt it. A nice bit of stinging on the tongue. 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: That dark fruit is there, maybe hint of vanilla, And 79 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: of course the oak really hitches. Well, that's really really nice. 80 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: It's sweeter than I thought it was gonna be. 81 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: Yea, there is a little bit of sweetness to the nose. 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a brown sugar kind of 83 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: sprinkling all across it. 84 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: There's a I didn't want. I don't want to under 85 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: solid by saying a decent am oak. The oak is there. 86 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: It's there. 87 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: I I'm just surprised. It's a little sweeter than I 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: thought it was gonna be. And by the way, not 89 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: complaining at all about that. So I'll be interested to 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: see what you think. 91 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm going in the the Angels MBI triple oak ninety 92 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: two proof. 93 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: Here I go. 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what 95 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: we like to call the sagon, a swish Memphis munch, 96 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: Chattanooga chomp. 97 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: Oh, oh, it's just me. It is on the finish too, 98 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: at the end, the very very end, a little bit 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: of like cinnamon. Wait hold on, yes, oh that's delicious. 100 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: Yes, there is a little bit of heat that is 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: now spreading fullness of the chest right there. 102 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Easy, No real sting on the tongue, which is kind 103 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: of interesting. 104 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: Really, No, not, not not at all, not in any way. 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: Wow, that is that is rich. 106 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: There, There is oak there that that whole dark fruit 107 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: thing your half you're talking about. 108 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: It's not wine, right, I would never call it wine, but. 109 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: Dark fruit or stone fruit like cherry and and a 110 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: little plum. That's just that's almost a coating. Not not 111 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: in a syrupy kind of way. Don't don't think cost 112 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: syrup or anything like that. I think, oh god, not 113 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: even in a cordial kind of way, because it's not 114 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: that sweet. 115 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Low sugar pie. So the flavors there, but it's not 116 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: necessarily uh, the big sweet bomb at all. And it 117 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: and it and it's and it's ribboned with vanilla. Holy crap, 118 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: that's good. Now. 119 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: I am not enough of an expert to know about 120 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: chickenpen uh oak and and and and and friend joke. 121 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: We've done some friends of things before. I've never done chinkapin. 122 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: I have a lot to learn there. Certainly don't know 123 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: about Hungarian oak, so maybe they're there. Certain oaks are 124 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: are known for bringing about these certain kinds of things. 125 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: But that is a really oh and that and that 126 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: finishes You said what on the finish you were as a. 127 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Little bit of cinnamon at the end. No, no, no, 128 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: no bad no. I would go with a little bit. 129 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: The guys over breaking Bourbon said coffee, And I don't 130 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: know how I feel about that because that could also 131 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: be seen as berry. 132 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: But but this clearly hit us two different ways. We 133 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: ran some of the stuff, but I cannot believe you 134 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of sting right away on the tongue. 135 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I was like right when you were like 136 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: fingers are you okay? It was like it was really 137 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: hitting me. It's it's nice. I don't get a cinnamon, 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: that is what it what I like about the finish. 139 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: And there's a flavor I'm not fine, I can't identify, 140 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: but it lasts. It isn't dissipating it is that it 141 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: is a fullness that stays with you and you feel 142 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: satiated from it, which is a really interesting way. 143 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: I think to put it. 144 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: The angels Envy triple OA and a lot of people 145 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: are gonna be like, it's angels envy. 146 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: What do you expect you're gonna get good? Oh? Wow, 147 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: that was really that is? 148 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 2: That is surprisingly wonderful. Wonder Oh I'm gonna hate to 149 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: I was about to say I hate Oh. That is 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: a terrific meat drink. No more frozen canns orange juice 151 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: from concentrate. The world is changing with no more frozen 152 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: concentrated orange juice. How could one make trading places again? 153 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: That's a great story. 154 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: Really is Seet Drink Smoke im Tony Kat's that's Fingers 155 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: Meloy find everything at Eat Drinksmoke show dot com minute 156 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: made putting an end to frozen concentrated orange juice and 157 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: frozen lemonade. There's no demand for those products anymore. This 158 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: was a mainstay. You open up the canon came out 159 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: and you added water and next thing you know, orange 160 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: juice for days. 161 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: That's over. Life goes on and there goes our childhood. 162 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: Not totally, I mean they're still tang yeah and five 163 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: alive and then absolutely despicable Sonny D. 164 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: You don't like Sonny D? Are you insane? Sunny D's 165 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: fantasticity is disgusting. 166 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: What a jug of sunny D in front of me 167 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: right now will be gone by the end of the show. 168 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, you put sunny D in front of me, 169 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: and it will also be gone at the end of 170 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: the show in the trash where it belongs. 171 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: But I you know, even when my kids were younger, 172 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: that was always it was like a security blanket, you know. 173 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: It was you always have some frozen concentrate in the freezer, 174 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: and if you ran out of fruit juice or. 175 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Whatever, it was always there. It was reliable. And now 176 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: it's no more. You want me to be totally elitist 177 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: on you. Oh good lord, I freshly squeezed. 178 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: Oh no, I didn't feed my kids fruit ice is 179 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: because it's all sugar and empty calories. 180 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: That's right, I'm insufferable. We didn't, Actually, we didn't. We 181 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: did not do juice for the kids. 182 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: They got when we would go on vacation and we 183 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: would say at one of those hotels that that did 184 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: the breakfast right, and would sounds something like something something 185 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: in or Hampton in like one of those. And they 186 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: could go downstairs and they'd be like, well, what can 187 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: we eat it. You're on vacation, you can have anything 188 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: you want. What there were fruit loops and nine glasses 189 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: of orange juice and was. 190 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: In a doughnut. 191 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: Nobody knew, but they ate it great. You could go 192 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: back and get seconds. They were like, this is more cereal. Sure, 193 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: you're on vacation, have fun. 194 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: That's that. I don't pay anything. I never paid attention 195 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: to what they did on what they ate on vacation. 196 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: Go ahead, do anything. So that was the exact opposite. 197 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: The kids could eat four bowls of fruit loops at home. 198 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: We went on vacation grits. 199 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: That's you interesting parenting style right there. But you really 200 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: did you would have the frozen comes. 201 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you know, I think there's probably still one 202 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: in the freezer that I bought in two thousand and four. 203 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: But no, this is this is sad, It really is. 204 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 3: It feels like a part of child childhood. 205 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: Aren't you still in your fridge? No? 206 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: No right, yeah, no, no, not at all. And actually 207 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: I prefer cranberry. 208 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Juice wow. 209 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: Wow, which I'm hoping in the next few years I'll 210 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: graduate to prune. 211 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: That's the game plan. That's the game plan. You know, 212 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: often I thought you remind me of my grandmother. Have 213 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: you ever had prune juice from concentrate? Stop talking, you're disgusting. 214 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: You know. It's Valentine's weekend. 215 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: So happy Valentine's Day, everybody, and we hope that it's wonderful. 216 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: And I truly hope no. 217 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: One bought into the nonsense that gives equal love and 218 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: you have to spend an outrageous amount of money in 219 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: order to show your love when you're sweetie, your boo 220 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: that they matter. 221 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: Dratt, I wish we would have had this conversation yesterday. 222 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Did you spend a lot of money? 223 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 3: No, no, I didn't, but I did try to get 224 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: dinner reservations on Valentine's Day, actually Valentine's Day, and the 225 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: people laughed and they laughed and they laughed. Apparently a 226 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: lot of people. You know, we keep hearing that, you know, 227 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: the economy is kind of sluggish, and and to some 228 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: extent I can can see, especially with the labor market 229 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: the way it is, but holy cow, doesn't seem that 230 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: way when you walk into a restaurant. 231 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: No, not at all. It's it's just it's nuts. 232 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: I will will not be going out for Valentine's Day 233 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: fancy because my youngest has a competition. So I'm going 234 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: to be in the quasi northwest corner of Indiana, where 235 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm hopefully going to be able to have a late 236 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: night snack with my wife at an Applebee's. 237 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm telling you right now, Moncearelli sticks are happening. 238 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Good for you. I don't know what Applebea's does, so 239 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: I just went with the Montrel sticks. I figured the sake, 240 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: get the rib basket, get the ribblets, Yes, the riblets, Yeah, 241 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: I could do that. You're gonna enjoy it. And I 242 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: can't think of a better way to spend Valentine than 243 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: with ribs. 244 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's Valentine's Day, then coming up soon, you got 245 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: the President's Day. 246 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: Just days later, you got the President's Day. 247 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 3: I can't think of a better way to spend Precedent's 248 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: Day than with ribs. 249 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: So home Depot has deals. According to Tom's guide dot Com, 250 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: home Depot has got the deals that you need to get. 251 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: So the appliances are up to forty percent off the 252 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: bathroom upgrades are up to forty percent off, the rugs 253 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: are up to fifty percent off, the tools and power 254 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: equipment is up to fifty percent off, and the fire 255 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: pits are up to thirty percent off. 256 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: And I want to see which fire pit they're going with? Here? Where? 257 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: What is the deal? All right? 258 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: These are the solo stoves now full disclosure, Solo Stove 259 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: is not a sponsor this show. Shame on them. I 260 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: have the solo stove. 261 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: You come. It is tremendous. It is a must have. 262 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: I have bought the smaller ones for friends, not you, 263 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: but for other friends, so it is terrific. 264 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: Have you seen solo stoves? And I don't know if 265 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: this is a conversion kit or if it's just a 266 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: specific solo stove that you can also use as a grill. 267 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: Uh, it's. 268 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: I think there is a specific solo stove they do 269 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: for this. But yes, you can buy the g the 270 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: grill parts of it, and then you know, because it's 271 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: it's a little higher up, and then you can do 272 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: your steaks on it. 273 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: I haven't done that yet. 274 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: You really need to do that, You really need to 275 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: make that a part of your life. There's something about 276 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: grilling a steak totally on wood. Fantastic tripine, very weird. 277 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: Solo stove is a great, great, great thing to have 278 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: because the idea of being able to have the pirate 279 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: pit where you want to have it is fantastic. I 280 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: love the ide building one. I love the idea of 281 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: running the gas line and letting that, you know, start 282 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: the fire. But I have found solo stoves with any 283 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: of those like instant flames like logs, where you just 284 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: light it and then it That's what I do, and 285 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm not here to fight it. I'm not here to 286 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: get kindling or anything else. I'm taking the easy way. 287 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: Out on this. 288 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: Oh I gotta tell you, you know, the new house. The 289 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: old house had a wood burning fireplace. The new house 290 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: has a gas fireplace. I missed the wood burner. 291 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: You can't do wood in the gas. No, oh yeah, 292 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: that's that's yeah. We have a wood fireplace and there's 293 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: nothing like it. 294 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it's really nice to be able to have 295 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: a fire in four seconds, but it doesn't throw the 296 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: heat like the wood fire does, and then that just 297 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: that smell. 298 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: So when we do it, you light it, it takes 299 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: a little while to get going in about an hour, 300 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: everything feels wonderful, and then about two hours later, furniture 301 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: is melting. 302 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: The heat is just flying off it. And we have 303 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: this part of it that that has this blower like 304 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: you can flip the switch. I've never used it. It 305 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: gives off enough heat. It's toasty. Yeah, but yes, gas 306 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: fireplace does not do the same thing. 307 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: It can't do the same thing you're saying, I should 308 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: get the conversion kit for the Solo stove and grow 309 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: my steaks on. 310 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: Well. 311 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: I see there's a cast iron grill top for the 312 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: Yukon twenty seven inch, three hundred and thirty nine. 313 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Dollars through Solo Stove's website. Oh, it's not a President's 314 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: Day deal, or maybe it is. I will forwards to 315 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: you buying that for me for Red Broth Day. 316 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Eat Drink Smoking is your cigar bourbon footy Extravaganza. 317 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. 318 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: That's fingers below. Eat Drink Smoke Show dot com is 319 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: where you go. We are smoking. We are drinking from Placentia. 320 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: Anyo de kabayo. This is the Year of the Horse. 321 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: A seven by fifty eight cigar which fingers I'm not 322 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: gonna lie. 323 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I have never had a problem with the cigar. I 324 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: adore it. I sat it down for too long. 325 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: We were doing too much, and I've had to retouch 326 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: it up. I screwed up the touch up. It's all 327 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: my fault. 328 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: This cigar is spectacularly good. You know what you did wrong. 329 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: I saw an influencer that said that you need to 330 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: put your cigars next to your popcorn in the freezer. 331 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: Why do you say things like that? Why do you 332 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: hurt me? I report it and you decide. I think 333 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: that tagline's taken now. 334 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: This cigar comes in at sixty dollars. A stick Nicaraguan 335 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: and the wrapper and the binder. The filler is Nicaraguan 336 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: and hunt Duran from Placentia. I was able to find 337 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: it for forty dollars a stick and admittedly a box 338 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: of ten. I bought two boxes. The answer to this 339 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: cigar is yes. The fact that I screwed mine up 340 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: means nothing on any normal. 341 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: Day, doesn't mean anything. 342 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: Well, it means a little, really, I mean just to 343 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: your day that you have a forty to sixty dollars 344 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: cigar that isn't the way you like it. But that 345 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: the number of reasons why, and we aren't going to 346 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: blame anything other than. 347 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: That I've had this cigarette many times already, Yeah, and 348 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: every smoke has been perfect, And I Am not going 349 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: to do anything except say I am all in on 350 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: this smoke. 351 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: I think it is tremendous at sixty, at sixty bucks, 352 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: I'm in at forty for sure. Ye, sixty's a push. 353 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: Sixties a hard one to swallow. 354 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: But I have had plenty of sixty dollars cigars that 355 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: don't smoke anywhere as good as this, anywhere as good 356 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: as this. And we are drinking fingers Boy at ninety 357 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: two proof. This is the triple oak from angels Envy. 358 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: And I'm about to put mine on a cube right there. Oh, 359 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I'd say, you. 360 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: Know it's fresh now when you put it on a cube. 361 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: When you add water, Fingers Boy adds a little bit 362 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: of water. I go with the cube. 363 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: Water brings down the proof. 364 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 2: Water also can open up a bourbon, right, some flavors 365 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: more pronounced, some more muted. 366 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: Going in. I regret having to do this. I thought 367 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: this was a beautiful presentation. 368 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: Neat really something else enjoyable, A lush in a in 369 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 2: a in a in a good way. 370 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: But we do it for eating smoke Nation. Maybe I'll 371 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: be pleasantly surprised. Maybe maybe positive, let's be optimistic. Is 372 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: that working out for us so far? 373 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: He's going in ladies and gentlemen and he's you didn't 374 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: even do the sagon. 375 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: I swish. Yeah, it's still really good. Huh Now is 376 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: it as good as it was? Neat? Is it better? 377 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Or is it a push? All right? A spice increased 378 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: on a cinnamon spice? Did ha? Oh yeah, it's still 379 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: really good. 380 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. It's a heat full chest right 381 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: full expansion. Uh no, stinging on the tongue. Sorry, but 382 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: there's a. 383 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: There's a spice intensity that happened. 384 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: And now in the finish there's a little bit of 385 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: that coating of the tongue in the slush that's taking place. 386 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: I would do it neat. I would do it neat. 387 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: Fingers boy, you added a little bit of water? Do 388 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: you take? 389 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: And I drop it out? And I put a little bit. 390 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: Didn't use a dropper. People have bought him droppers. He 391 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: still doesn't use them. 392 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: What say you? 393 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: Oh wow, he's really in deep thought. I thought he 394 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: was gonna say something. He's like, nope, I spend more 395 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: time marining. Yeah, that spice is there. It did, it 396 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: did pick up. I'm getting a little bit more of 397 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: that dark fruit than i was before. That oak is 398 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: muted slightly. It's fantastic, it really is. 399 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: This came out in twenty twenty four, so. 400 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, it's there. It's there for you. 401 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 2: Fingers billoy, Is this in your liquor cabinet? This is 402 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: the angels Envy triple oak. It's it's done in the 403 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: Hungarian chickenpin and French oak barrels. 404 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: Is this in your liquor cabinet? For seventy five dollars 405 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: a bottle? Now you know me? Yeah, I am usually 406 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: the value money money. Yeah, that's exactly right. 407 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: Seventy five dollars for me is a splurge bottle. I 408 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: would have this in my liquor cabinet. 409 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Now I can't remember the number right now, 410 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: I've got it written down. 411 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: I'll find it. I did get it on sale, I 412 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: remember correctly, got it on sale. 413 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: Should have a group on no, no, no, I just 414 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: knew a guy and there was a back of a 415 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: truck and I don't want to talk about it. 416 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: At seventy five dollars yes, yes, absolutely. 417 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: Now I would argue that even this year, we've tried 418 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: some things where I'm like, lesser price point, I think 419 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: I got more enjoyment. 420 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I cannot wait to go back and. 421 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: Do some comparisons. This is really a pleasure. But I 422 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: would stick with it neat. For me, I would stick 423 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: with it neat. 424 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: And part of it. 425 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: This is totally superficial. I understand that the juice stands 426 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: on its own. The presentation the bottle, it's beautiful. I 427 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 3: would have that in your display. I think as a 428 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: home run as well, and it adds to the value 429 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: of what you're buying to me again, seventy five dollars 430 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: is definitely a splurge bottle for me. 431 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: It's in my liquor cabinet. It's time fingers maloy for 432 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: News of the week. 433 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: CNBC is reporting Tony that Dutch brewer Heineken is planning 434 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: to lay off up to seven percent of its workforce 435 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: as it looks to boost efficiency through productivity gains. 436 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: May I what is the productivity gain? I get it's 437 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: a logistical I mean it could be like a host 438 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: of those things having nothing to do with the actual 439 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: making of the beer. 440 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: There's nothing specific, just as the company also says it's 441 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: planning to cut between five and six thousand rolls over 442 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: the next two years, as it's targeting operation operating profit 443 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: growth in the range of two to six percent. 444 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: This translation, people aren't drinking as much beer worldwide, even 445 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: though they may still be there in parts of Europe. 446 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: This is not surprising, This is not shocking. One of 447 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: the things that we have to really expect to have 448 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: happen is that they are going to be job losses, 449 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: which makes the jobs report so amazing that jobs went 450 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: up in January because AI is taking those gigs. AI 451 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: is taking those gigs. And this is just part of 452 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: the change that we're in in the world. 453 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: Right. 454 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: The car came and that ended the horse and buggy 455 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: and ended a whole host of things. You could drive 456 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: to the supermarket, You no longer had your milk delivered 457 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: to you, et cetera. So these things do come, these 458 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: changes do happen, and there's nothing wrong with it whatsoever. 459 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: But I'm not surprised when I'm seeing this in any 460 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: part of the beer wine spirits world at this moment. 461 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently beer sales were down globally two point four 462 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: percent in twenty twenty five, so, which is in line 463 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: with what we've been talking about as far as the 464 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: struggles in the bourbon industry. 465 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: Which are again have no end in sight. 466 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: So a little bit of good news though, Tony. If 467 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: you're working for Costco, Costco is introducing a minimum twenty 468 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: dollars an hour rule across all stores and it's expecting 469 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: to raise wages next month. The average pay is as 470 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: high as thirty one dollars an hour at the moment, 471 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: so it's incredible. 472 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: Ye go work now what. 473 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: I have zero issue with this minimum wage. I have 474 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: serious issue with when states talk about we have to 475 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: raise the minimum wage. I'm very much in the Milton 476 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: Friedman camp that the minimum wage takes away opportunity from 477 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: the employer and the employee. The minimum wage is sounds nice. 478 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: The minimum wage is not good business. It's not good practice. 479 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: It it it takes away the ability for people to 480 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: learn on the job. 481 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: It takes away for the ability. 482 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: For people to negotiate for themselves. Real I oppose the 483 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: minimum wage. I can debate this really with anybody. But 484 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: if if a company says this is what we're gonna pay, well, 485 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: the company is saying we're utilizing this as a skill set, 486 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: as a tool, I should say, to get a skill 487 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: set to be able to create a better product, and 488 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: we think we can profit off of that well. And 489 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: clearly Costco is thriving. I mean, I mean stock price recently. 490 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: But I'll believe you, I haven't looked at the sock perss. 491 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: I'm just talking about retail alone. Go we were there 492 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: in This is anecdotal. I mean last weekend, it was 493 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: absolutely crazy there. 494 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: I know. 495 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: I brought it up a few weeks ago my brother 496 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 3: in law had his first Costco hot dog. They had 497 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: just expanded into Michigan in his area. They must be 498 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: doing something right. 499 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 2: And good on them, and they want if they want 500 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: to pay twenty dollars an hour, great average thirty one 501 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: dollars an hour and let people go to college thirty 502 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: one dollars an hour, another five bucks. 503 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: You can be doing OnlyFans at Costco. Honestly, that would 504 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: sell buying your only fans and fault. Absolutely. 505 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: It seems that every week there's a story about a 506 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: trend happening in the workplace. 507 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: That is, you're all new and. 508 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: Inventive and a real problem as employees deal with the 509 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: pressures of today's world, to which many of us say, 510 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, most people know how to be professional and 511 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: keep their home life at home and not bring it 512 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: to work with them and think that everybody else has 513 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: to be subjected to whatever it is that's going on. 514 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: In your life. I'm not opposed to being kind. 515 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: And compassionate, but show up to work so you can 516 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: handle the rest of your life. Tea, Drink, Smoke. I'm 517 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. That's fingers maloy. Find everything at Eat, Drink, 518 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: Smoke Show dot com. Don't forget our books Let's Go Bourbon, 519 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: Let's Go Barbecue, available at Amazon dot com. That's Let's 520 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: Go Bbq Recipes, Tips and Tails from the Pit and 521 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: Let's Go Bourbon, The Bourbon Reader. You've always needed the 522 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: new term fingers maloy. According to the everygirl dot com 523 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: good Lord, shift sulking, Yes, fingers, would you like to 524 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: explain what a little shift sulking is? 525 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: So? 526 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: Shift sulking Apparently, it's an informal workplace term when an 527 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: employee shows up and for whatever reason, whether it's stuff 528 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: that's happens at home or at the workplace, where things 529 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: aren't going their way right and because of this they 530 00:28:54,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: decide to disengage from the office and the workforce, but 531 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: they emotionally check out, They do the bare minimum, and 532 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: they're just professionally grumpy. And this has not only a 533 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: negative impact on that person's life, but also everyone else 534 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: in the office. 535 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, how dare you bring your home life to work? 536 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: How dare you? How dare you? 537 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: You? 538 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: Selfish, elitist, snob, jerkface punk? 539 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: I think that's all I'm not saying radio, because I 540 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: have more I'd say. 541 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: It's not just exclusively bringing your home life to work. 542 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: It's also if things don't go your way at the office, 543 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: it is then you take it out on everybody. 544 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, you're fired, you're fired. 545 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: No, hr, I don't have to like running through some 546 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: corporate board. I don't have to take three weeks. I 547 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: don't have to give you a time out and retrain. 548 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: Now you're gone, goodbye. You're not able to handle yourself emotionally, 549 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: you gotta go. 550 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: There was a where I. 551 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: Would not have been able to handle myself emotionally, and 552 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: I should have been fired repeatedly. Of course, why should 553 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: anybody have had to put up with my nonsense, trash, garbage, ridiculousness. 554 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: But you want to know what the symptoms are. What 555 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: shift sulking looks like, Tony, Oh, I can guess. 556 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Wait, what is shift sulking? 557 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: So you give short, flat answers to your coworkers, Yep, 558 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: sure whatever, no extra effort or initiative. Yeah, well I've 559 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: seen that before, clock watching like it's an Olympic sport, right, 560 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: A body language that says I'm here against my will. 561 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Which is most people at work zero interest in team 562 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: morale activities. Well I can agree with that one. I 563 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: can we just just say everybody's shift sulking, That's just it. 564 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: It's just some people are proferred. I mean, some people 565 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: enjoy their work and I'm good I do. Uh, stop 566 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: back like you're special. You're not special. Who told you 567 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: that your mother is a liar? Don't you know that already? 568 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Your mom lied, Your dad probably ran out, and that's 569 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: why you're sulking. And because your mother is such a liar, 570 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: you you just get over yourself, show up, do the job, 571 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: and then go find something that is more to your 572 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: comfort level or skill set or enjoyment or where you 573 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: think your place in the world is. 574 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: You're not special. You're not special. My mom said, I 575 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: was special. Your mother lied she's dead, but how many? Wow? 576 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: That was unnecessary. She's laughing she laughed at that joke. 577 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Yes she did. But here's the deal, Tony, they don't. 578 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: I feel like we did this same story six months ago, 579 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: and back then it was called quiet quitting, right, and 580 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: now it's shifts Sulking. 581 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: I feel like there are just a bunch of people, 582 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: and maybe. 583 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: They're influencers or you've got people in HR trying to 584 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: come up with different terms to basically say, you know what, 585 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: my employee doesn't give a rats, you know what anymore 586 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: ridiculously spoiled, pathetic, emotionally unstable children. 587 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: Well, that is a little long shift, Sulking, Wady, is 588 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: it kind of easier? 589 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: The management position would be that your employee has an 590 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: attitude problem. The worker thinks that basically, I'm done caring 591 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: about caring more than the system does. Why should I care? 592 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: The system doesn't care about me, The company doesn't care 593 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: about me. I'm going to sulk and I'm bringing this 594 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: whole ship down with me. 595 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: This is the problem the system. Let's argue that the 596 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: system doesn't care about you. Here's the question. 597 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: Do you care about you? Do you care about how 598 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: you carry yourself. Do you care about how you present yourself? 599 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: Do you care about what effort you put in so 600 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: you can see what it is your work did at 601 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: the end of the day. If you care about yourself 602 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: and you say this place doesn't care about me, I 603 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: should go somewhere else. 604 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: But when you do not care. 605 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 2: About yourself and you complain that others don't care about you, 606 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: the system doesn't care about you, this and that and 607 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: the other, you don't understand clearly that you are the problem. 608 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: Because it starts from what is it that I want? 609 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: What is it that I need? What is it that 610 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm willing to accept? And can I accept the fact 611 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: that right now I'm not in a great place and 612 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: right now this work is not a great place for 613 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: me to be. But if I just stay calm, start 614 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: looking for something else, start working on a couple of 615 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: these issues, that then allow me the other opportunities. 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