1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: That one still works today, doesn't it, James get you 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: going on your chair over there, Yes, Sir Ray Parker Junior, Ghostbusters, 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: great film, great song. Now we have a great coach, 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Dad Mada joining us on the line this morning and 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: his weekly appearances. Brought to you by Thompson Furniture and 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Mattress in Columbus, in business since the year before Heinko 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Fieldhouse open nineteen twenty seven. Lazy Boy, Indiana made Smith 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Brothers Furniture, Stearns and Foster and Tiperpedic Mastresses free delivery 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: to the entire Indianapolis metro area. It's worth the drive 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: to Columbus, though. Thompson Furniture dot Net. Coach Mada, Welcome 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: on a Friday morning, Halloween. I'm gonna guess, are you 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: and your team in the Halloween spirit or is it 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: just time to play basketball? 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: Oh? No, We're in the Halloween spirit. And I think 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: that's something that is very, very important for our team 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: to have, you know, the mindset of celebrating all holidays, 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: national holidays, and I really don't care if they dress 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: up or not. They need to be thinking about Halloween. 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the biggest things for guys, 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: and we try to teach them, is you got to 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 2: find a house where you get the biggest candy bars? 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: That is sage advice coach. 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And we talk about it, you know, we 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: show film on it, like, hey, this is a house, 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: you know, pictures of that that we're assuming that you 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: would probably get the biggest candy bar here, like the 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: full one, not not the giant size, but not to 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: as many ones. And and I think that's important for 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: the guys. That way, they may not have to go 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: to as many houses while they're trigger treating if they 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 2: can get the big ones. 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Now, that is a coach I want to play for, 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: right there, King size or bust, right, that's what I 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: want to I want to play for that coach. He's 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: got every detail covered all the time. 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: That's why he's one of the one of his coaches 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: in college basketball history. Fat motto with us here on 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: the Payoffs Liquors Hotline Coaches go back to Wednesday Night. 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: I do want to ask about the format of the 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: game because I thought that was a bit unique. But 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: scoring points not an issue for you guys at all. 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: What do you like from Wednesday? 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think that you know, first the format. You know, 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: every kid aspires playing the NBA. So I got with 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: the Indiana State coach and said, hey, why don't we 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: give these guys a dose of what they're eventually going 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: to be playing at in four quarters twelve minute quarters. 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: But no, for us, it was these games. You know, 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: there are quote unquote exhibition games, and you know, we thought, 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: if we can get our guys more minutes and more 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: opportunity to play, and it would be advantageous for both sides. 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: And we were able to do that. We were able 53 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: to get you know, some guys twenty seven twenty eight 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: minutes and our freshman or new guys still got a 55 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: lot a few more minutes than they had if we 56 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: played a forty minute game, So that that worked out 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: well for it was a long game, it seemed like. 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: But and I thought we were we were better. You know, 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: we were very specific in terms of what we wanted 60 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: our guys uh to do both offensively and defensively, and 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: we did a better job than we had in the 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: previous exhibition game. 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: Do you think obviously we see it in the women's 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: game with four ten minute quarters, and I know some 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: fans are like the kind of resetting of the fouls. 66 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: Do you think that's something that you would ever see 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: in the men's game or something you would want to 68 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: see in the men's game going to the four quarters 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: and and maybe not twelve minutes, but maybe ten minutes. 70 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I don't know, because like you said, 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: the women do it, you know, they everybody does it 72 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: all levels. FIBA does it, you know, in the euro 73 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: leagues except US college basketball. So I don't know if 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: they'll if they'll make the change. You know. It's like 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: I'd love to see the shock locked in Indiana high 76 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: school basketball, and I don't know if it'll ever go 77 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: to that, but I don't know it'll be It'll be 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: interesting to see how it shakes out, because you know, 79 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: it does give you a little bit more excitement just 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: in terms of you got an end of the end 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: of two quarters that you don't have and you you know, 82 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: put the clock running down, that sort of thing, which 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: is always exciting in college basketball. 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: At MADA here trying to start a new U, I 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: guess battle when it comes to the shot clock conversation 86 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: here in Indian high school basketball. I have had these 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: same thoughts coach, and they have not always gone over 88 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: well with the purists who tell me go back to 89 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: single class basketball and shut up. So we'll see. 90 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, well, let's let's scratch everything. I didn't want 91 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: to start a battle. 92 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm just joking with you. 93 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: Cant shot clock battle started a battle I need. 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: I will say this though, going back to Wednesday, what'd 95 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: you like and really throughout sort of like your preseason slate, 96 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 4: if you will, the shot quality you're getting, and particularly 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: when it comes to the three point shot, because we 98 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: know in today's game you need that to compete with 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: the best of the best, and obviously you shot it 100 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: pretty well Wednesday against the Sycamores. 101 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I thought our shot selection was better. 102 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: We had you know, fewer ill advised still gold attempts, 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: and I think that's something we're going to really, you know, 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: continue to hone in on. And a lot of that 105 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: is is making sure guys know their roles of what 106 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: we need them to do and when we needed them 107 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: to do it. But I you know, the three point 108 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: shot has sort of overtaken you know, a lot of 109 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: the levels of basketball now and and we spend a 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: lot of time, you know, working on our three point 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: shots and with our guys and you know, trying to 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: elevate that and and I think that's a lot of 113 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: times it can be a great equalizer in college basketball 114 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: because I think in the Interstate hit eleven and every 115 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: time they hit one, it was like, oh, my gosh, 116 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: the world is going to end. And but but for us, 117 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: you know, as long as we're taking good ones and 118 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: and you know, Finley showed his range has increased on 119 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: a couple of me made. But no, we we want 120 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: that in our in our arsenal, that's for sure. 121 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Fat Malls had basketball coach of the Butler Basketball Bulldogs, 122 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to to watching this team kind 123 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: of come together of the course of the year. When 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: we started and we had our first conversation with you 125 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, you had so many brand new 126 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: players that have played together for the first time, that 127 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: you're putting on the court together for the first time 128 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: three four weeks later, Now, how are you feeling about 129 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: how they're they're coming together. 130 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: I think we're making progress, I really do. I think 131 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: guys are starting to understand what they need to do 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: to be on the floor. And you know, it's it's 133 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: Basketball's the game where everybody has a job to do. 134 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: You just don't go out there and play. And I 135 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: thought our younger guys did a really nice job of 136 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: that the other night, of saying, hey, I got I 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: got to go rebound, I've got to defend my tail off, 138 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: and it was it was good to see. And that's 139 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: something that I think, you know, every team at this 140 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: stage right now October thirty first, where everybody's still trying 141 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: to find their their role and their identity of who 142 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: they are. And but I do like you know, since 143 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: we've started talking, just the strides we've made in that regard. 144 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Coach last one for me and again that model with 145 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: this year on the Payloff stickers hotline you added. And 146 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: we've seen this obviously around college basketball with various staffs 147 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: of a GM and the off season. I think defining 148 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: exactly what that GM does for a program, though, is 149 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: a little bit different at each school. How have you 150 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: viewed the GM position in terms of whether it's roster acquisition, 151 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 3: roster construction. How do you view that role within your staff? 152 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's very it's vitally important for us to be 153 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: honest with you because it takes me out of I 154 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: don't want to say awkward situations, but situations that I 155 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: don't think head coaches need to be in very similar 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: to the NFL or NBA or National Hockey League or whatever, 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: because you're dealing a lot more now with agents and 158 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: kids have gives agents, and there's really good agents out 159 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: there and there's really bad agents out there. But you know, 160 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: r GM Tony Blair is able to connect with those 161 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: guys and get a feel for what they're thinking and 162 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: and that that helps a lot. I mean, they're constantly 163 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: in contact with those people, and it's just something that 164 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: our staff doesn't have to do. I don't want our 165 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: guys having to negotiate and do those types of things. 166 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: The dollars and cents is on the gms played and 167 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: you guys are there to coach more or less. 168 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: More or less, yes, absolutely, I like it. 169 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: Coach, thanks so much for joining us. We look forward 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: to talking to you every week, usually on Thursdays, but 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: it might change depending on your schedule and how things go. 172 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday against Southern Utah, first game at Hinkle. Good luck, 173 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: my friend 174 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: Southern Indiana will take the luck.