Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: All, welcome to a new episode of The Frames per
Speaker 2: Second Podcast. My name is Kenneth. Been joining me on
Speaker 2: the show is Mike and Rod what Spike is absent today,
Speaker 2: so it's just us and we are here to discuss
Speaker 2: Send Help, which is a new movie by Sam Raimie
Speaker 2: Romie Ramy Sam Raymie, I don't know he did this
Speaker 2: one until after the fact, so he's kind of pretty
Speaker 2: good at this sort of thing when it comes to
Speaker 2: his approaches to thrillers and horrors. He did a Doctor Strange, right, yep,
Speaker 2: Doctor Strange, Evil Dead mm hmmm. He's got a very
Speaker 2: particular style.
Speaker 1: Spider Man Dragged Me to Hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, drag me to Hell.
Speaker 1: Did you notice the style of this one?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, especially there's one point where it was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's so Raymy and and it didn't even need to
Speaker 4: be here.
Speaker 1: But we'll get to I think I may know what
Speaker 1: you talked about.
Speaker 2: But it was written by Damian Shanny Shannon and Mark
Speaker 2: Swift and it stars Rachel McAdams, Dylan O'Brien and some
Speaker 2: other folks, but the primary cast consist of Rachel and Dylan,
Speaker 2: who gets stuck on the island together. I think you
Speaker 2: guys mentioned this was like a castaway or something like this.
Speaker 2: Then somebody I didn't refer to it as castaways, like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I didn't know much of about it until they
Speaker 2: crashed landed, so I kind of went in, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: a little blonde here and just waiting to kind of
Speaker 2: see what they give me. But it is described as
Speaker 2: a black comedy, psychological survival, horror thriller.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's what was getting me.
Speaker 5: I didn't know it was like a horror thriller, or
Speaker 5: it was supposed to be like a horror thriller type
Speaker 5: of thing. But now that I know realize who the
Speaker 5: person is because he did the Army of what is
Speaker 5: it called armory dark Darkness, Yeah, and I know how
Speaker 5: that was. So it's kind of that same humor, I guess,
Speaker 5: if you say so.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that it was going to be humorous.
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be more straightforward, you know,
Speaker 4: thriller horror. The comedy threw me off. I mean, I
Speaker 4: didn't mind it, I just didn't wantn't expecting expect it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was weird. It was an interesting way to
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, it was because you know when I
Speaker 2: was when I went, when I got my ticket, and
Speaker 2: then I was sitting down and I was watching like
Speaker 2: the first you know, beginning of the movie was setting up,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh this is this is a
Speaker 2: different tone. And then I was like am I I
Speaker 2: knew I was in the right more, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: what is this thing? And then I saw the poster
Speaker 2: with the red in the back end with I was like, well,
Speaker 2: we are gonna go with this, right, you know how
Speaker 2: they gonna get there?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So anyway, but yeah, so far though, it has a
Speaker 2: budget of forty meal and right now it's.
Speaker 1: At twenty eight point one, so damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's considered a flop.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is twelve under budget, which is interesting because I've
Speaker 2: seen people talking fairly positively about it.
Speaker 1: But before I went in there. But people seem to
Speaker 1: enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: But maybe it's not getting the right marketing and promotion
Speaker 5: because I don't see it promoted like the personally. I
Speaker 5: hadn't seen it like that, but in my theater was
Speaker 5: kind of empty.
Speaker 2: Though, well my okay, So the show and I went
Speaker 2: to which was four forty five, I had seats but
Speaker 2: the seven fifteen was like, Pat, I went to four?
Speaker 1: Which day did you go? Thursday? I almost went Thursday,
Speaker 1: but I end up going Friday.
Speaker 3: Thursday got people, not a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, the late night show have folks in it,
Speaker 2: but the Thursday, you know, had a good number of people.
Speaker 5: Thriller probably later will probably be more people. What time
Speaker 5: did you go, y'all go tomorrow one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where I would What time did you go
Speaker 4: for four forty five Thursday?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So you were in that one?
Speaker 1: No way you were in there, God.
Speaker 3: Swear to God, because I left work early that one.
Speaker 1: How did you miss each other? That's because it was
Speaker 1: it was one of.
Speaker 3: The bigger thing.
Speaker 2: Ye, it was in twelve yob you watched it Adobe,
Speaker 2: I don't know, No, it was it was in.
Speaker 3: Twelve chairs were shaking and ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was AOBE. I think that was dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 4: That was it closer to the concessions then, yeah, and
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it was. It was in the concessions room,
Speaker 4: but it was on the left side if I remember
Speaker 4: that's Adobe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the right of it. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like it. Other side.
Speaker 3: I did not like that I did not like that.
Speaker 1: There before I did because I walked in late.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I must because I walked in pretty much right
Speaker 4: when the trailers were ending.
Speaker 1: Oh we Dann walked in like, yeah, we Jaz missed
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 3: Then, that's funny.
Speaker 4: I go to that one because you know, it has
Speaker 4: like those nice comfortable seats and shit.
Speaker 3: Usually I go to Camp Creek. But anyway, no one
Speaker 3: wants to hear about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, how did you like it?
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 4: I liked it up until the very, very very end.
Speaker 4: I didn't really love the ending, but the rest of
Speaker 4: it I was having a blast. I don't typically laugh
Speaker 4: out loud with movies, but this one, there were quite
Speaker 4: a few times where I was actually laughing and I
Speaker 4: was interested in the characters, so no, I've thought this
Speaker 4: was good. And I didn't even hate the ending. It
Speaker 4: was just I was like, I could have used a
Speaker 4: little more, but that's it.
Speaker 2: That's funny you because I was laughing now that I
Speaker 2: know you in the same theater, which is crazy. That
Speaker 2: was a moment where I laughed out loud to but
Speaker 2: everybody was kind of laughing together at the same scene.
Speaker 3: It's like everybody was having a good time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what about you rock?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sam Man, I enjoyed this. It was it was fun.
Speaker 5: It was a surprise. I didn't know whether I was
Speaker 5: going to like this or not.
Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, I'll go see it.
Speaker 3: But nah, man, it was.
Speaker 1: It was good.
Speaker 5: It was good character development, good, good little story. I
Speaker 5: like the like just the overall like okay, damn, whose
Speaker 5: side are you on at this point? Like I like
Speaker 5: I like what they did with that with the storytelling.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was cool. Like I was like, damn,
Speaker 5: this is this is really really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When it was over, I was like, damn, I fuck
Speaker 2: that right, Yeah exactly, it's like that.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was definitely, as I mentioned earlier, a little like concerned.
Speaker 2: In the beginning, the tone threw me off. Know, we're
Speaker 2: first introduced.
Speaker 1: To Linda Little Yeah, and you know, she's this corporate strategist.
Speaker 1: The guy comes over and it was extreme. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She was kind of hosey and goofy and silly and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, looking to get a promotion. And you know,
Speaker 2: she had did this thing and she was supposed to
Speaker 2: go in the meeting and the guy was like, nah,
Speaker 2: you know, I got it. Your name is going to
Speaker 2: be right here on the post it note.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, girl, he gonna see ship.
Speaker 3: We all did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but and that's the exactly way happened. She knew
Speaker 1: it too, Ship. I don't think she did. That's why
Speaker 1: she That's why she went to go see if he
Speaker 1: did it. Remember I thought she I thought she was
Speaker 1: just being nosy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, and then she got sad that happened.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing about her.
Speaker 5: I think she came off like just kind of naive
Speaker 5: and whatever, just mounsey. But I think she was fully aware.
Speaker 5: Not fully but I think she was aware of of like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're not about to give me credit for this ship,
Speaker 5: which is why she wanted to double. That's how I
Speaker 5: took it.
Speaker 2: You know, you think she was playing a game this
Speaker 2: whole time. That's wasn't what she was like in the
Speaker 2: corporate setting. I don't what you mean playing a game
Speaker 2: as being like she was part of her persona to
Speaker 2: be No, I don't think it was part of her persona.
Speaker 5: I just think people underestimate her because of her appearance
Speaker 5: in the way she like comes off like just very passive,
Speaker 5: like you can't underestimate people like that that come off past.
Speaker 5: We got a couple people like that at a job,
Speaker 5: like you you think they like that, but you really
Speaker 5: talked to them. They know exactly what's going on. You
Speaker 5: don't think she was weird?
Speaker 1: Weird in what sense?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, I disagree.
Speaker 1: You thought she was weird?
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think she intentionally ate a tuna sandwich.
Speaker 4: It had tune all over her face. I don't think
Speaker 4: she intentionally was going over there and being like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I would love to go do karaoke, but she knew
Speaker 4: that they didn't really want to be around her.
Speaker 1: She was a fucking dork. Well that's why I say weird,
Speaker 1: and in what sense? Like, I don't know, she didn't
Speaker 1: really weird. Yeah she was. Everybody looked at her like
Speaker 1: she was. She was weird.
Speaker 5: It was just it was just upper management really everybody
Speaker 5: else they didn't know wait wait, like the girl, like
Speaker 5: the girl.
Speaker 3: That was behind her and stuff that was not fuck
Speaker 3: with her. When she came over and was like, oh,
Speaker 3: y'all going out? I do this song during Carroll because.
Speaker 4: She was like will you go away? No, I knew
Speaker 4: she was a loaner. Yeah, not involuntary loaner. Well sort
Speaker 4: of nobody liked her.
Speaker 1: Yeah they didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, Yeah I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just didn't.
Speaker 5: I just even with that said, I didn't, I still
Speaker 5: didn't think she was naive enough to not realize that
Speaker 5: he was going to take the credit for that ship.
Speaker 1: Sure, that's all. That's really all I'm really saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I can see that. I guess I can
Speaker 1: see that because once she complained, she was complaining to
Speaker 1: the bird. Yeah, bird, I'll be like man to the
Speaker 1: bird and ship like that. But yeah, she was. She
Speaker 1: was definitely uh.
Speaker 2: An oddball that that much was certain bad for it though. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, so, I think they did a good job of,
Speaker 2: like early on, like establishing like her position and role
Speaker 2: and even us we're watching her and we're, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe even we're like misjudging her or not having this
Speaker 2: sort of confidence in her that she can get certain done,
Speaker 2: certain things done, Like we recognize that she's great at
Speaker 2: being a numbers person, the corporate strategist, and we realized
Speaker 2: as the movie played out how all of that sort
Speaker 2: of worked her advantage.
Speaker 1: But early on it was like damn.
Speaker 2: Girl, you you this ain't working out for you, but
Speaker 2: so yeah, but and they spent it felt like it
Speaker 2: felt like a long time in that setting.
Speaker 1: So I was like, where are we going with this?
Speaker 2: But anyway, so, come to find out, Bradley Preston, which
Speaker 2: is the son of the boss who died, ended up
Speaker 2: getting the job. And she had met Bradley Preston at
Speaker 2: a party and she was role playing that and he
Speaker 2: didn't even remember. Are you guys familiar with Dylan O'Brien
Speaker 2: as an actor? Did you ever watch them? Have you
Speaker 2: ever seen any of the Maze run on movies?
Speaker 1: Oh? That's him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even realize that. I think he was
Speaker 2: in Was he in te No? He wasn't in Was
Speaker 2: he in Ting Wolf?
Speaker 1: The series?
Speaker 2: You didn't I thought you watching tem was the series? No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like I've seen his face, but I
Speaker 4: don't know him as an actor. But he played his
Speaker 4: role very well, you know, And that whole interaction between
Speaker 4: him and her was really well done because the whole
Speaker 4: time I felt so uncomfortable for her. But those super
Speaker 4: tight shots that's raymy, Like, like when you see the
Speaker 4: fucking the mayonnaise on her face and he's hyper focusing
Speaker 4: on it. I was like, oh god, oh this is
Speaker 4: so embarrassing. I feel so bad for you right now.
Speaker 4: It was it was he tried to make the Elvis
Speaker 4: joke and he didn't get it, and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, this is making my stomach hurt.
Speaker 2: How'd you feel about Dylan, not Dylan, but Bradley Preston
Speaker 2: Rod in terms of like a character early on, like
Speaker 2: your introduction to him, Like it makes sense to see
Speaker 2: how he would sort of look at Linda little because
Speaker 2: everybody looked at her that way. But then we also
Speaker 2: see how he interacted with his I can't remember his role,
Speaker 2: but the president from twenty four, the black guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he kind of made him sniff the egg salary
Speaker 2: on it on his I ain't like.
Speaker 5: That either, but he was like, yeah, he's like, I
Speaker 5: ain't doing that. At first, he was just like I
Speaker 5: ain't doing that. He was like, you serious, I ain't
Speaker 5: about to sniff your hand.
Speaker 1: But he had to. But yeah, he ended up having
Speaker 1: to do it or whatever.
Speaker 2: You think they did a good job of kind of
Speaker 2: establishing like him just being an absolute like dick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yea yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Definitely made
Speaker 5: him seem like the typical like kid that took over
Speaker 5: his dad's company, don't really know ship, hiring his frat
Speaker 5: brother and all that type of ship promoting him.
Speaker 1: That's all typical shit. We've seen this ship.
Speaker 4: First, I was like, you really just hird this motherfucker,
Speaker 4: like you just letting him skip all these people.
Speaker 3: You hired two of your homeboys, that was and you
Speaker 3: knew people knew. And he's like, yeah, so yep, he
Speaker 3: was yep, yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, because there was two versions of this guy.
Speaker 2: There was the one that was pretending to be off
Speaker 2: for the people walking around, and then there's the one
Speaker 2: that's behind closed doors. And we saw that when how
Speaker 2: he treated the black guy, which I thought it was
Speaker 2: kind of good to show him kind of acknowledged Lind
Speaker 2: a little, but.
Speaker 1: He disgusted with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but he still want to kind of
Speaker 2: you know, like the open door policy you know they had,
Speaker 2: even though it was some bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yea, every boss says that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he clearly was annoyed because he was trying
Speaker 2: to hit on that girl above and beyond sort of
Speaker 2: thing which came back later.
Speaker 1: Were all surprised he had a black.
Speaker 4: Girl A little bit, and I was surprised she was
Speaker 4: that fine.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 2: I was like, dash, you you respect.
Speaker 3: I was like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one called me. Oh god, yeah, Jury, I
Speaker 1: think jury.
Speaker 2: I was like damn, oh wait a minute, okay, Chocolate,
Speaker 2: I go ahead, uh rat.
Speaker 3: But you know she was like that exotic black though.
Speaker 2: She was was like, yeah kind of black could play
Speaker 2: a bit into like him. Yeah yeah, yeah, because he
Speaker 2: was clearly hidden on the White Girl. But here he
Speaker 2: has this other thing that he proclaimed to love so much,
Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, but right. He was also in
Speaker 2: this movie Twinless. Remember we were on somebody recommended that
Speaker 2: watched it. Yeah, yeah, so he's in that. He's in that,
Speaker 2: But yeah, he wasn't Team Wolf.
Speaker 1: I thought I could have swear. I thought you'd seen
Speaker 1: that was good. Did you watch it? I haven't watched
Speaker 1: it yet.
Speaker 2: It's good, it's goody, it's good.
Speaker 1: But yourself, That's all I say.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, so I've seen him in other movies,
Speaker 2: but I haven't seen this version of him. The way
Speaker 2: he was acting it was. It was definitely different. But
Speaker 2: he was really eerily close. And I gotta watch Twinless
Speaker 2: to being sort of type cast because he was in
Speaker 2: a bunch of these kid movies you know, growing up,
Speaker 2: but that's how he got his start from teen Wood
Speaker 2: from twenty eleven to twenty seventeen, and then he was
Speaker 2: in the Maze Runners all the trilogy for that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and a couple of other shit.
Speaker 5: And he definitely plays a different character in Twinless, so
Speaker 5: he's not typecast.
Speaker 2: But it's good to see him breaking out. I think
Speaker 2: they you know, this generation needs somebody. But yeah, so anyway,
Speaker 2: so the promotion is given to his buddy, as you
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, Rod Donovan. She watches into the office demands
Speaker 2: a meeting. She gets it, and he didn't want to
Speaker 2: give her this opportunity, but he's like, all right, you
Speaker 2: can just come with us on this trip Bangkok, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was the Bangkok yep.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So you guys think he really thought she was going
Speaker 2: to show up, because why did he seem surprised.
Speaker 4: I think he was just annoyed with her. I think
Speaker 4: he thought she was going to show up, but then
Speaker 4: she just showed up acting all yeah, So he was
Speaker 4: just like, you're only here to do this work. You're
Speaker 4: not here as one of the guys exactly.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yeah, mm hmm, okay, yeah, yeah, he was like,
Speaker 2: oh god, and he just like and he completely ignored her.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so on the plane, they pull up this
Speaker 2: video of her being a participant on Survivor and they
Speaker 2: just completely just clowned her. She's in the working hard,
Speaker 2: trying to do stuff and she deleted it.
Speaker 3: Man, they did her like Trump did NICKI minaj man.
Speaker 4: Her doing all that work and then they clowned her
Speaker 4: right to her face.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a little unbelievable. That was probably one
Speaker 5: of the most Like that's I was going to ask.
Speaker 1: In her face.
Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised. I was.
Speaker 5: I could see them trying to hide it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, but to do it like right in
Speaker 5: her face and.
Speaker 3: Look back up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he turned around and kind of looked at and
Speaker 1: just laughed. Yeah, that was a little unbelievable for me.
Speaker 4: Not for me, because it almost didn't seem like they
Speaker 4: were being mean enough for it to be unbelievable. It
Speaker 4: almost seemed like they were almost expecting her to kind
Speaker 4: of like laugh too, you know. But I could I
Speaker 4: could absolutely see a bunch of corporate white people doing
Speaker 4: some ship like that. The only woman on the plane.
Speaker 1: And they did have this sort of like you guys
Speaker 1: makes your earliest.
Speaker 3: Fra Yes, yeah, that's why it seemed believable.
Speaker 1: With the light skinned black guy there and ship like that.
Speaker 3: I don't remember him. Yeah, yeah, he was a light
Speaker 3: skinned black guy there.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was something a mixed race whatever, but it
Speaker 2: was definitely a person of some color, if not all.
Speaker 1: Huh he was there, Yeah, he was there. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: So again at this point, I'm like, okay, so I
Speaker 2: thought they were going to go to Bangkok and she
Speaker 2: was going to prove herself and it was going to
Speaker 2: be this whole sort of story.
Speaker 1: Imagine my surprise.
Speaker 5: Even though I knew that it was supposed to be
Speaker 5: like that because I did see like a preview some
Speaker 5: movie I went to and I saw the preview for this,
Speaker 5: it still surprised me the way they executed this, like yeah,
Speaker 5: this this was this is good as hell, Like this
Speaker 5: was like the you like the experience in this, like.
Speaker 3: That's my biggest fear. And no, I didn't like this.
Speaker 4: I don't like flying, and what happened is what I
Speaker 4: think about every time I'm on a plane.
Speaker 3: So no, I did not like this.
Speaker 1: Did you like that Donovan got his In the end.
Speaker 4: I was laughing my ass off because when I was
Speaker 4: like turning away and I looked back, turn away for
Speaker 4: for a minute or two because I was like, I
Speaker 4: can't take this is too much, and my chair was shaking.
Speaker 3: I don't like this. It was a lot, Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: My chair was shaking. Was it is fucking stupid and annoying.
Speaker 3: I be able to turn this off.
Speaker 4: But when his tie got hooked and he was outside
Speaker 4: the plane and he was mass the window.
Speaker 5: And still talking, yes, like to know that you're about
Speaker 5: to die like this, that's like, oh.
Speaker 1: Man, but you're asking for help after you tried to strangle.
Speaker 3: Her because he wanted to, he said, give me your seat.
Speaker 1: Yes, what the like, bro, Yeah, the plane is going down.
Speaker 2: They told every last one of you to put your
Speaker 2: damn seat belt on, and and why they ass listened
Speaker 2: to Brad.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh yeah, what the next thing? You know?
Speaker 1: That mother fucker hit.
Speaker 4: The likes like, oh some long elaborate plane crash scene.
Speaker 3: I don't want to it was great.
Speaker 1: Oh it was great. Yeah, man, it was so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad they didn't spend I mean, I like
Speaker 2: because most of the time when you see guys like
Speaker 2: being assholes, you know, they get just snatched out of
Speaker 2: the plane and then that's it. I like that he
Speaker 2: suffered all the way to the end, and that the
Speaker 2: person he tried to force out of their seat, you know,
Speaker 2: one give up up the seat and then now you're
Speaker 2: on the outside of your had banged up against the.
Speaker 3: Cold. She pulled the shade down, mom sh.
Speaker 2: And thinking about like where we ended up in this movie,
Speaker 2: now that we're talking about it, like you can almost
Speaker 2: look at those as signs of like this dark side
Speaker 2: of her that we didn't know really insisted at the time,
Speaker 2: because we only saw this one version of her. I
Speaker 2: think that was just survival though. Closing the plane, closing
Speaker 2: the shade, well, I think.
Speaker 5: That she just didn't want to see it, like she
Speaker 5: still was terrified of being on the plane.
Speaker 1: I think she just didn't want to be experienced that well.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think seeing this the this the version of her
Speaker 2: that we ended up seeing and hearing the story that
Speaker 2: we heard, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think her.
Speaker 2: I think we saw a lack of empathy there. You know,
Speaker 2: this motherfucker tried to kill you know, yeah, but you
Speaker 2: know it made sense for us. But again, at this time,
Speaker 2: I think we didn't know that it was this whole
Speaker 2: other thing.
Speaker 1: So just kind of, you know.
Speaker 5: In this particular moment, I just think all that logic,
Speaker 5: all that shit just goes out the window. You're just
Speaker 5: just trying to Everybody in there were just trying to
Speaker 5: trying to save their own lives. Basically for the most part,
Speaker 5: is how I just took that situation. It's just a
Speaker 5: survival instinct or whatever. It's like, give me your seat,
Speaker 5: I don't give a shit. I'm trying to keep my life,
Speaker 5: like I don't give a shit about yours. Same way
Speaker 5: to dude was grabbing on his leg, Like I think
Speaker 5: everybody just trying to survive. They're not thinking about you
Speaker 5: being saved or whatever. They're just trying to be saved themselves.
Speaker 1: Didn't he bite him? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, who I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think everything was just survival. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, So, yeah, the plane crashes, she swims washed up
Speaker 2: the shore and she looks over and there's Bradley.
Speaker 1: So they're the only two.
Speaker 2: His leg is messed up, and the survivor thing that
Speaker 2: they were showing us came into play. So then I
Speaker 2: remember the castaway thing. I was like, okay, so we're
Speaker 2: gonna be in this island with these two, and this
Speaker 2: is how now I'm writing a movie in my head,
Speaker 2: Rod and Mike. I'm like, Okay, well, she's gonna have
Speaker 2: a survive, she's gonna get back, she's gonna get the promotion.
Speaker 2: So that's that's the movie that I'm thinking I'm gonna watch, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: well shit cool. Yeah it didn't go that way. But
Speaker 2: what you guys think of her? Her skills When she
Speaker 2: got on the albul she seemed pretty resourceful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was to be expected because they they set
Speaker 5: that up from the beginning. If you look at it,
Speaker 5: like in her apartment, you see all the books. It's
Speaker 5: like survival tactic books. She loved Survivor series show, so
Speaker 5: she had been watching this ship. It's not like how
Speaker 5: y'all say, y'all the Survivor a zombie apocalypt Did y'all
Speaker 5: watch all the Zombie of Populast ship? That's how I
Speaker 5: felt like with her because she's been watching and doing
Speaker 5: the ship. I think she even tried to be on
Speaker 5: the show at one time. She tried to be a
Speaker 5: contestant on the show. So yeah, yeah, so what we
Speaker 5: just talked about?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 4: What what we literally just talked about that?
Speaker 1: Which part you about to contested on the show?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: He said, you think she was going to be a contestant.
Speaker 5: They were watching her. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's that's right,
Speaker 5: That's right. That what that's that is what the video
Speaker 5: was about. I forgot that's what the video was about.
Speaker 5: I know y'all mentioned the video, but I don't think
Speaker 5: y'all mentioned.
Speaker 1: What was the video?
Speaker 3: You were there though we didn't have to, you saw
Speaker 3: the movie.
Speaker 5: I just didn't think on the video. I was trying
Speaker 5: to get to how everything that happened on the plane.
Speaker 5: Shut up, you weren't even watching. I thought it was
Speaker 5: smart that they like fatten her up a little bit.
Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all even noticed that. No, up, Oh,
Speaker 5: if you like I know Rachel mcallim from other movies.
Speaker 5: She's scrawny pretty much.
Speaker 4: But if you like when she first came out at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the I was like, oh, she's not
Speaker 4: that I can like. No, no, you could. You could tell.
Speaker 4: They like they padded her clothes to make her look bigger.
Speaker 4: So then later on she gets and they fucking they
Speaker 4: put like weird stuff on her face to make her
Speaker 4: just look homely and kind of yeah, you know, but
Speaker 4: I thought that was all really smart.
Speaker 1: Hmm, yeah, I don't notice that. Damn she had that
Speaker 1: beach glow afterwards.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, because she's normally you know, she's
Speaker 4: not unattractable. No, she's a pretty woman. But I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: a leader up real, Well, okay, let's see where this
Speaker 4: is going.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't ask, I know I mentioned Dylan. How'd
Speaker 2: you guys think she she didn't.
Speaker 3: She killed it. She fucking killed it.
Speaker 1: She was really good.
Speaker 4: I like her as as an actress. I don't know
Speaker 4: that I go to movies for her, but I like her.
Speaker 1: She was really good. Yeah, she's not like a draw, right,
Speaker 1: but when I see her, like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: She was a couple of like she was like different
Speaker 2: persons in this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was interesting seeing her go from Lynda Little to
Speaker 2: what she eventually became. Were you surprised, Mike that Bradley
Speaker 2: uh accepted her help in the beginning but Dan immediately
Speaker 2: kind of went back in.
Speaker 1: The Boss Bob.
Speaker 4: Nope, I wasn't surprised at all. That's his personality. He
Speaker 4: thinks he's better than everybody else. Even when someone is
Speaker 4: clearly better than him at something, he's still like, well, no,
Speaker 4: I'm still.
Speaker 3: Better than you.
Speaker 1: She saved your life.
Speaker 3: He didn't care.
Speaker 4: He thinks that he's owed that. That's how people like
Speaker 4: him think. They're not They're not thankful for anything because
Speaker 4: they think they're owed everything.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I liked a response. She left that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: In the rain and all that. You want to talk
Speaker 3: ship go ahead?
Speaker 1: Yeah, two days he couldn't move.
Speaker 2: He was disposed to the sun, nothing to drink and uh,
Speaker 2: and yeah, she she created this dependency on him, but
Speaker 2: also established that, bro, you have no power here.
Speaker 1: Yeah she said it. Yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you he't just say what the fun
Speaker 3: you thought? You just said, John, that's Joe.
Speaker 2: She did a great job and did say anything after that,
Speaker 2: what you say to me? And then she packed up
Speaker 2: and just left.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think at this point they were there
Speaker 2: for two weeks, right, well, I don't think it lasted too.
Speaker 1: I don't think she was going for to day. She
Speaker 1: was going for two days.
Speaker 2: But I think I'm trying to remember when she said,
Speaker 2: we've been here for two weeks and nobody came to
Speaker 2: help us.
Speaker 3: A little bit later, it was gone for like well
Speaker 3: over a month at that at some point.
Speaker 1: In the Yeah, yeah, I was just in that moment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, because it because it was like, you
Speaker 5: can't survive without Wader for how long?
Speaker 1: It's like three days? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, so yeah so, which is of course
Speaker 2: while she came back into.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know, he.
Speaker 2: Kind of started saying the things that she wanted to
Speaker 2: hear and uh, but it was clear he was doing
Speaker 2: this to learn how to build stuff on her own,
Speaker 2: on his own, so he wouldn't rely on her as well.
Speaker 2: But before I get to that, I'm trying to remember,
Speaker 2: is this when she went and killed the boar?
Speaker 1: I think so it was right around this son.
Speaker 3: Was he still they had made up at that point?
Speaker 1: They made up at this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had made up because he she let him
Speaker 3: have some of the board meeting.
Speaker 1: You know, that's right.
Speaker 3: They're both like, it's the best meat I ever had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was like, yeah, I brought the bacon
Speaker 2: home and they literally and it made the joke or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: so yeah, what do you guys think about her killing
Speaker 2: the boar?
Speaker 1: Man? So crazy?
Speaker 4: They made this boy seeing fucking vicious like this.
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, man, I ain't, but I loved it though.
Speaker 1: I loved it though.
Speaker 3: You remember the Game of Thrones, remember the king got
Speaker 3: he died because he was fucking stabbed by a boar man.
Speaker 1: I forgot in the first season.
Speaker 5: Me, no, no, no, they are, but yeah, it just
Speaker 5: this this one looked relentless.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was thinking, because I get you,
Speaker 2: because I was like, oh man, you're making this thing
Speaker 2: like it's just crazy. But I also remem remember that
Speaker 2: bores are but he did put a little.
Speaker 1: Extra sauce.
Speaker 4: Stabbing in the eye and all that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is definitely this is some Sam Raimi ship. But
Speaker 4: it was funny and then like it was just going
Speaker 4: through him and he was just like spitting the blood
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if I would have eat some
Speaker 5: ship like that though, that that could be that fucking
Speaker 5: really Like, I get what you're saying, you know, not
Speaker 5: for sure, but I just feel like it would be
Speaker 5: like like like some sort of like not good meat,
Speaker 5: like a tainted meat. I don't know, yeah, like like
Speaker 5: something that has like it's like something that has rabies
Speaker 5: or something. No, they're just mean, yeah, Like and if
Speaker 5: you again, if you ever go to like a regular
Speaker 5: farm and sunk with a chicken, you'll probably never eat
Speaker 5: chicken again. Then chickens are not nice, especially the male
Speaker 5: I guess the masters.
Speaker 3: I don't know, the male chickens are mean as fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought they'd just be running running
Speaker 1: away and.
Speaker 3: Ship a chicken.
Speaker 4: You've never seen this be as of chickens chasing people
Speaker 4: and attacking them. Chickens will fuck you up. I've been,
Speaker 4: I've been on a farm.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: It must have just read you had good energy.
Speaker 4: A chicken will suck up, a chicken will fuck up,
Speaker 4: especially a kid fucking with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyway, but nah, yeah, I liked how she you know,
Speaker 5: jumped off the thing and whatever and in all the
Speaker 5: blood and she I was like, Yo, they are really
Speaker 5: going in on this ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can almost look at that as like the beginning
Speaker 2: of her you know, dark side. She's painting in blood
Speaker 2: and then eventually, you know, she became this thing later
Speaker 2: on down down the line. But but yeah, Brad Bradley
Speaker 2: was definitely agreeing to basically be the servant and let
Speaker 2: her boss him around at this point.
Speaker 1: Uh, and she notices a boat selling. That was crazy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you guys know the did you guys?
Speaker 2: Okay, so when it happened, why did you guys think
Speaker 2: she ignored it?
Speaker 1: Well? Can she said?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I know, she said, not yet. But what did you
Speaker 2: guys think that meant at the time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I just thought it meant. I mean, she was enjoying
Speaker 5: this life she's created and just being in a position
Speaker 5: of power. So I think she wanted to feel that
Speaker 5: a little bit more like she was just like, not yet,
Speaker 5: I'm liking this position of power. Obviously they set up
Speaker 5: in the beginning where so like she had no power.
Speaker 5: Now she's in a position of it and she wants
Speaker 5: to keep it. And I thought that was really good writing.
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, this motherfucker stringing on the island and
Speaker 5: would rather, you know, get some sense of power to
Speaker 5: afford goal being saved on this island, because I mean,
Speaker 5: she made like she ain't having no issues, she's surviving,
Speaker 5: and she's actually a good She's having a good time surviving.
Speaker 1: Bradley was the one that was suffering. She was straight,
Speaker 1: what about you, Mike.
Speaker 4: I knew exactly what she was doing when she said
Speaker 4: not yet. I knew that she was just enjoying the
Speaker 4: power that she had.
Speaker 2: M I was thinking that whatever it is she was
Speaker 2: trying to get, I was attacked. I was attaching it
Speaker 2: back to the promotion that, you know, because I think
Speaker 2: he's Linda from accounting and she was like, no corporate strategist, right,
Speaker 2: And I think at the time at this time, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, she hasn't she doesn't feel like she's
Speaker 2: convinced him that she's the right pick. For the job,
Speaker 2: even though I thought it was still attached to that.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I didn't. I was completely surprised
Speaker 2: and pleased with the direction that we went, because you know,
Speaker 2: that's kind of typical movie, right, Remember what the movie
Speaker 2: I thought I was watching. So I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: so she's gonna stretch this out a little longer to
Speaker 2: convince to show him that she's really good at what
Speaker 2: she does.
Speaker 5: I think the thing, the thing that debunked that for
Speaker 5: me is just like he was just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: you're so fucking fire.
Speaker 3: She was just like give the job. Like, what the
Speaker 3: you talk about right now?
Speaker 1: We don't even know that.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, I think she gave up
Speaker 4: on the job. Well before that, she's like oh yeah,
Speaker 4: She's like I don't care about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got it, got it, Okay.
Speaker 1: She was done trying to convince him for a position.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, all right. Well anyway, so yeah, moving on.
Speaker 2: So we just because I'm trying to remember at what
Speaker 2: point where it may have been this point where I
Speaker 2: was like, damn, we got a whole hour left. And
Speaker 2: you know, she's now at this point, she is the
Speaker 2: top dog. She's confident and everything she's teaching Brad how
Speaker 2: to survive and sharing a lot of like tips and
Speaker 2: tricks and stuff.
Speaker 1: She's coming back really.
Speaker 2: Good ass food and ship like that ship man was
Speaker 2: veggiees and ship she han't bro And that was one
Speaker 2: time when she was she was walking back bye with
Speaker 2: the uh. This going back to when she left him.
Speaker 2: She had the food, the fish on the thing, and
Speaker 2: she had a sushi is what he called it, and
Speaker 2: he was litting in the back.
Speaker 1: Oh ship.
Speaker 2: We got got to mention this when she used his
Speaker 2: words against him when he came back and he was
Speaker 2: basically in the position of weakness, and she was like,
Speaker 2: would you go above and beyond?
Speaker 1: And he got up and he thought that meant something else.
Speaker 3: I did too.
Speaker 4: I was like, she really gonna make him take his
Speaker 4: clothes off and give him Yeah, I thought that. I thought, yeah,
Speaker 4: he was about to. He was about to take his
Speaker 4: clothes off.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, lady really was.
Speaker 1: But and at this point she started looking good too.
Speaker 1: She had had a belly out all that ship. She
Speaker 1: was she was a whole different chick.
Speaker 5: But but I think this is the when they were
Speaker 5: just mad at each other. At this point, this wasn't
Speaker 5: the first time. This was like the second time, because
Speaker 5: he's like, I build my own fucking tenth that's what
Speaker 5: he was trying to build.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was so good. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was just trying to like she was
Speaker 1: just teasing him at this point.
Speaker 2: So the position of power was the second time they
Speaker 2: got mad at each other.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I can't remember when I got madaged can't either.
Speaker 5: I think he was saying, like, yo, you should be
Speaker 5: asking for help. That's what it was. He was just like, man,
Speaker 5: you're getting real comfortable in this ship. You should be
Speaker 5: asking for help. Like that's when he built the helple.
Speaker 1: Wait what he built? Help? She said help when she
Speaker 1: walked back, said help.
Speaker 3: He didn't notice.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she said it help wrong. He spelled h E
Speaker 3: P L.
Speaker 1: He said it was.
Speaker 3: It was subtle, but it was so fucking well beloved.
Speaker 1: It was damn Yeah.
Speaker 2: But she gave him a tour of the island, which
Speaker 2: I thought was pretty cool and sort of dangerous because
Speaker 2: his leg was starting to heal. And I'm like, you're
Speaker 2: really putting a lot of faith in him by showing
Speaker 2: him this stuff, and showed him the ex and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't ever want to go over there. It's poisonous
Speaker 2: vines and shit over there as dangerous.
Speaker 4: I knew what something to that, though. Let see I
Speaker 4: didn't she got it either. Oh yeah, I was like
Speaker 4: evil or anything.
Speaker 3: At this point.
Speaker 4: I thought she was just being straight up like, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's fucked up shit over they don't go over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I thought I said she hides something.
Speaker 2: As March's spot clearly, but nah, I didn't think she
Speaker 2: was hiding anything.
Speaker 1: I'm with Mike.
Speaker 2: I thought it was some legit because at this point
Speaker 2: she's in fordavivor mode, so she's coming back with all
Speaker 2: kinds of food and shit like that. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: in my head, I'm like, she's really explored every aspect
Speaker 2: of this island and really mapped it out, so she's
Speaker 2: definitely really, really comfortable. It was also concerned because I'm like,
Speaker 2: at some point he won't need you anymore. And then
Speaker 2: what happened when the roles were reversed again.
Speaker 4: See, I never thought that, Yeah, he was too bougie
Speaker 4: to fucking privileged. I never thought at any point he
Speaker 4: would get to the point where he didn't need her.
Speaker 4: She was always going to be better than him because
Speaker 4: she was.
Speaker 3: This was her thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was learning on the go, right, But you
Speaker 5: gotta think she's been preparing herself for a moment like
Speaker 5: this for forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was learning with a motive in mind later on,
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about. But I think this is when
Speaker 2: we saw the other side of Linda, when she was
Speaker 2: telling him about how to make alcohol. Did you guys
Speaker 2: hear about the You guys ever heard about this alcoholic
Speaker 2: toilet toilet You never had that?
Speaker 1: I know I have not. I have not had toilet
Speaker 1: wine before.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely don't know about toilet wine. I did like
Speaker 5: the moonshine. Heard about moonshine, Yeah, but not toilet wine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's not good. It's just fermentuted fruits.
Speaker 3: It tastes like really cheap, like box mad Dog. It's
Speaker 3: not good, but it'll get you there.
Speaker 2: Mike, what did you think about the story she shared
Speaker 2: about her husband being abusive? I like that and her
Speaker 2: basically killing.
Speaker 4: Or did she allowing him to kill himself? But yeah,
Speaker 4: I liked I like that because it does bring up
Speaker 4: that moral gray area. You know, she knew he was
Speaker 4: too drunk. But I liked that they didn't reveal what
Speaker 4: he did, but she said he did something terrible even
Speaker 4: for him, even for him, so I'm assuming he raped her.
Speaker 4: So at that point all bets are off. So she said,
Speaker 4: I served him his last.
Speaker 3: Drink and gave him his keys, and I was like,
Speaker 3: go ahead, girl.
Speaker 1: You coke girl, right?
Speaker 2: What did you think about that at this point? Did
Speaker 2: you start to see Linda for someone else, hearing that
Speaker 2: she could actually go along with that, or did it
Speaker 2: seem like this is just her fighting back into one
Speaker 2: way that she knew she could, Like this was this
Speaker 2: gave her some sort of power?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, for sure, Like I just seen like she is
Speaker 5: a survivor, contrary to what her appearance looks like.
Speaker 1: Did you see hints of it here and there?
Speaker 5: Like she was willing to stand up for herself in
Speaker 5: situations and things like that. So I think this is
Speaker 5: just another another way to explain, this is why you're
Speaker 5: seeing this woman in this situation. So I think they
Speaker 5: just you know, adding validity to her, to her character,
Speaker 5: which again I thought was really good. I thought, you know,
Speaker 5: people always underestimate, you know, the whole judge of book
Speaker 5: bars cover shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that was a
Speaker 1: good way to to pick that. I thought it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: It showed that there's more to Linda Little, which I
Speaker 2: don't think the last name was. I think the last
Speaker 2: name of this character is very intentional.
Speaker 1: It is it Little?
Speaker 3: I thought it was something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they just spell it uh l I D
Speaker 2: D L E. But Linda Little, you said, it sounds
Speaker 2: like yeah, gotch. But yeah, I think that it showed
Speaker 2: that there's more to her than the person that we met.
Speaker 1: And you know, at this point, we're seeing.
Speaker 2: Her through the eyes of everybody else, and now on
Speaker 2: this island, we're seeing the person that.
Speaker 1: The survivor that you mentioned. What.
Speaker 2: I didn't expect though, for her to say I don't
Speaker 2: think we should ever least to fucking island, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh shit.
Speaker 1: And she did not laugh. It wasn't a joke, not
Speaker 1: at all. You thought she was serious, Mike when she
Speaker 1: said yeah, I thought she was serious. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: what the hell?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 4: I think this is the time when they were she
Speaker 4: was a little bit drunk, right, yeah, she was, so
Speaker 4: she just let her inhibitions out.
Speaker 3: Nah, I definitely think she was serious because.
Speaker 5: He looked at her like what yeah, And this is
Speaker 5: while saying early on that I like the writing because
Speaker 5: it's at this point it's like, Okay, whose side are
Speaker 5: you on? Because part of you like, no, we need
Speaker 5: to get off this fucking island, like you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like yeah, So I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 5: so who's the villain now? So I feel like they
Speaker 5: did a good job at at at.
Speaker 1: Seeing Okay, who's really the villain in this? They created
Speaker 1: the conflict.
Speaker 5: They created conflict, and I was just like, oh, this
Speaker 5: is good, this is good because.
Speaker 1: I'm with him.
Speaker 5: Shit, I ain't the little fucking raf too, Like what
Speaker 5: are you talking about? I ain't trying to stay here?
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying but you know, like in his mind,
Speaker 3: you know, he thought.
Speaker 5: I would be trying to figure out other ways to
Speaker 5: get off the island as well, because clearly I'm not
Speaker 5: trying to be here like you.
Speaker 3: I like my life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you know you brought it up, which is
Speaker 2: what he did. I don't know why she didn't see
Speaker 2: this coming. Why did she leave him when she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make dinner for you, I'm gonna pay you
Speaker 2: back after she even talked. Because now one thing I
Speaker 2: did say, I was like, oh got it. Though you
Speaker 2: shouldn't have showed him how to like how to find
Speaker 2: poisonous berriers.
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to come back to buy it.
Speaker 1: But you believed it. I did. I did. I thought
Speaker 1: he was turning a new leaf. I mean, they that
Speaker 1: made it seem very believable to me. Was like, nah,
Speaker 1: he about to poison your ass.
Speaker 4: I agree, I believed him for a minute.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 1: I think they did a good job. It's like yo,
Speaker 1: like nah because they.
Speaker 4: Because they had the music, the music playing, and it's like,
Speaker 4: oh ship, they they might be.
Speaker 1: Turned into something different now, like he might might have
Speaker 1: woken up for real.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if he was looking
Speaker 2: at her in that way. I know she did look
Speaker 2: at him because she woke up the next morning. He
Speaker 2: was taking a bow, so they kind of hinted toward it.
Speaker 2: Maybe something romantic developing with him, but.
Speaker 5: That's not far fetched. You're stranding on the island with
Speaker 5: someone and companionship. I think they showed him in the
Speaker 5: cave at this point too. Uh, they were trying to
Speaker 5: warm each other up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot if there was a storm that came.
Speaker 5: The storm that came, and so they was they were
Speaker 5: trying to get body heat, and he suggested it, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So they did drumm that up
Speaker 5: to be like, okay, it might be something here. I
Speaker 5: thought they were definitely going to sleep together.
Speaker 1: At some point they were on that island for I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that she was starting to look good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, usually be okay when we get home.
Speaker 2: You know what it was, because yeah, you're right, like
Speaker 2: that storm hit and she was like, oh yeah, it
Speaker 2: probably wasn't about the bill, which I mean yeah, but
Speaker 2: he was working on something. When she came out, she
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you got up early.
Speaker 1: It was clear. She seemed like he was hiding something.
Speaker 3: I don't think she saw him.
Speaker 1: She didn't. She didn't see him.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, she didn't see what he was doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't know.
Speaker 2: We didn't either, But I'm like, oh, he's he's up
Speaker 2: to something. I ain't know what it was. I thought
Speaker 2: it was like and I think that's why I was.
Speaker 5: I think that at that point I got a little
Speaker 5: suspicious because.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what. I was like, Wow, they're not
Speaker 1: revealing what he's doing. But this was before the juices
Speaker 1: and berries. Yeah, I know, but it's just a little suspicious.
Speaker 5: It could have been went either way he could have
Speaker 5: had It could have been like a surprise or something.
Speaker 1: It could have been anything I see.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess that's why I was like, since
Speaker 2: he was being suspicious and then he said to make dinner,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh this some ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, your insituition service right in that moment, it
Speaker 5: didn't for me.
Speaker 1: I just didn't see that coming. I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1: So was Rat.
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, I was like, oh shit, this
Speaker 4: was playing her this whole time. Like I was really
Speaker 4: surprised he.
Speaker 1: Was playing her.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, where do you think he's gonna go
Speaker 3: on his.
Speaker 1: Fucking rat That's what I was gonna ask, bro.
Speaker 3: And why he wait until the waters were calm?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Mike, but he's not a survival But yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, bro, this was never going to work, Like what
Speaker 1: do you at night?
Speaker 3: He was desperate? Yeah, oh man, can did that ship
Speaker 3: in the morning?
Speaker 1: Bro? Like nah, trying man, he didn't get anywhere.
Speaker 3: Right ten feet Raffle was gone, yeah for real, that
Speaker 3: ship was.
Speaker 4: So, what waters aren't calmer at night? Whereas what waters
Speaker 4: aren't calmer at night?
Speaker 3: Not always?
Speaker 1: No, not always? Nah, I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it probably depends on what part of the Earth you're.
Speaker 1: On, gravity, the moon and all. That's what I was
Speaker 1: thinking about, So I thought maybe I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: When when when he did the night, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is stupid. You don't try to sell away at night.
Speaker 3: That's like, who's going to be out sailing that night
Speaker 3: looking for people to that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was just desperate he was.
Speaker 2: And again I think it played into his character he
Speaker 2: doesn't know any better, so it made sense.
Speaker 3: And it led to one of the best scenes in
Speaker 3: the film.
Speaker 1: Yes, because she was like, yeah, I didn't teach you
Speaker 1: that part.
Speaker 2: I had to be the proper wrath. But then she
Speaker 2: was like, you know what all is? Well, you know
Speaker 2: I saved you here, eat this.
Speaker 3: You need to know you're skipping when I say the
Speaker 3: best part of the movie.
Speaker 1: You just skipping.
Speaker 3: When she was fucking giving him CPR and throwing.
Speaker 4: Up, oh my god, I was was intentially doing that.
Speaker 3: No she's sick. Remember, I do remember she was sick.
Speaker 3: But I was like, why she just couldn't throw up
Speaker 3: to the side because it's her, Because it's her, and
Speaker 3: she's fucking goofy.
Speaker 4: She was throwing up on his face and then giving
Speaker 4: him mouth to mouth.
Speaker 3: I was dying because it was like, I was like, oh, oh, so.
Speaker 1: It was I.
Speaker 4: Forgot what The movie that happened in was A forty
Speaker 4: year Old Virgin where the woman got drunken.
Speaker 3: And was in the corny.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, it was dry.
Speaker 4: Every time I see that, because I told you all
Speaker 4: that happened, I see that. I'm like, but this one
Speaker 4: was like, it was so good. It was so because
Speaker 4: she kept doing it. Yeah, oh my god, it was
Speaker 4: so funny.
Speaker 5: That was No, that was fuddy, but yeah a that Yeah,
Speaker 5: you're right. She she made it seem like all was well.
Speaker 1: Oh this was good too. To me, it was yeah.
Speaker 3: When she talked him again, yes, apparently got me.
Speaker 1: They got me too, bro, they got me.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh. And then the blast crater for
Speaker 3: the sound. Bro. The first thing was the sound. I
Speaker 3: was like, this not off.
Speaker 5: This was and he couldn't even like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: he couldn't even move. Oh he couldn't move or feel it.
Speaker 5: They got me good man, this was this was too good.
Speaker 5: This was like, oh man, it made seem like she
Speaker 5: was evil boy like, oh she whoa man?
Speaker 1: Who? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I thought she did because at this point when I'm
Speaker 2: watching the movie, we should So here's what I got.
Speaker 2: We should we should stay on here forever. You know,
Speaker 2: she saw him naked the cave scene, Rod and then
Speaker 2: you know what she did.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking misery, Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So that's
Speaker 1: where my head is at.
Speaker 2: And then we get to this scene, I'm like, this
Speaker 2: ship is fuckings misery on the island.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5: I did think misery because she's just like, I did
Speaker 5: all this for you, and that's how she was in misery.
Speaker 5: Was funny because that came up after I watched Taxi Driver.
Speaker 2: Misery came Yeah, it did for me too, because I
Speaker 2: think it's leaving somewhereas at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was like, oh shit, misery, but yeah
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 5: It was miss me on the island because she's just like,
Speaker 5: all this ship I do for you, and you're not thankful,
Speaker 5: You're not grateful.
Speaker 1: That's how she was in misery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so this this was definitely really really dope.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that, like, yeah, immensely. But at this point
Speaker 2: he lost and I think, I don't know if she
Speaker 2: said a hearing another speech that they had, she was like,
Speaker 2: this is how it fills with powered shifts. So you know,
Speaker 2: we get the message of the movie. For people that
Speaker 2: didn't pick it up. They told us and and at
Speaker 2: this point Brad's like, all right, fine, you got it.
Speaker 1: What you gonna do afterday? Right?
Speaker 5: That was a hell of a statement to me. Yes,
Speaker 5: a hell of a statement to me. It's like, look,
Speaker 5: don't funk with me, Yeah, don't funk with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, which I got to mention if she said she
Speaker 2: found a knife that.
Speaker 3: I believed her too, Right, Okay, cool, good luck.
Speaker 2: So you're always seeing the knife on the hill after
Speaker 2: this happens. Oh no, this happens after this. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get to the I'm gonna get to the knife thing.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Mike, were you surprised that jury popped up
Speaker 2: on a don't know.
Speaker 4: I knew she had to come back around at some point, really,
Speaker 4: and then the second they gotf the butt, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: she's gonna kill him She's solutely going to kill them.
Speaker 3: But I was dying when.
Speaker 4: Jerry got off and they made their little you know,
Speaker 4: hello or whatever, and then it was just it was
Speaker 4: subtle and I'm not evenure how many people heard it,
Speaker 4: but I did.
Speaker 3: But when the boat.
Speaker 4: Guy was like, nah, you can leave those like you don't,
Speaker 4: she was trying to get her bag with all the melons.
Speaker 3: He was like, you don't need that.
Speaker 4: We have good food on the on the boat and
Speaker 4: she was like, no, no, no, I want this, and he
Speaker 4: was like, you really don't need that, and then he goes.
Speaker 3: God, you must really like melons. He said it under
Speaker 3: his breath. I was crying.
Speaker 1: The way he delivered it.
Speaker 3: Close, The way he delivered it was so fucking funny.
Speaker 4: But yeah, then after that, I was like, oh, she's
Speaker 4: gonna take him to the same place where she almost
Speaker 4: fell for me, I thought.
Speaker 1: She was imagining that ship.
Speaker 3: I really like the wife was the fiance is there?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was like man, I was.
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see her because I thought the
Speaker 2: boat was just gonna come back, So I didn't know
Speaker 2: what I thought too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think it was gonna be her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought that's how Bradley at this point shipped.
Speaker 2: Linda's the villain to me. So even though Bradley was
Speaker 2: a piece of ship, Linda's the villain. The boat's gonna
Speaker 2: come back. He's gonna kind of see it because he's out,
Speaker 2: you know, getting fruit and ship. He's gonna see the boat.
Speaker 2: And that's how it's going to be creating this whole thing.
Speaker 2: So as a movie, I'm writing in my head. But
Speaker 2: but I didn't think she was gonna take him to
Speaker 2: the Rocky Cliff, Mike. I'm thinking she's gonna take him
Speaker 2: to the X where the bushes and ship were.
Speaker 1: Oh. That was another thing too. He saved her that
Speaker 1: one time and they went up, yeah, the Rocky Cliff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's that's another reason why I thought they
Speaker 5: were gonna be good, because like they show him saving
Speaker 5: her and all that ship.
Speaker 1: But he needed her at that point still. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't look at it like that. I just looked at
Speaker 1: okay ship. Yeah, he couldna let her die at that
Speaker 1: point because he learned anything but.
Speaker 2: He couldn't find Yeah, okay, guys help me.
Speaker 1: So did she take her to another.
Speaker 2: Part another part of that cliff that didn't have rocks
Speaker 2: or the same spot spots.
Speaker 1: Get in that area.
Speaker 3: I think they were trying to imply that that whole
Speaker 3: edge was loose.
Speaker 1: So she didn't fall in the same spot Linda fel She.
Speaker 4: Did, but it was like a little bit like okay,
Speaker 4: like if here's if here's the rocks, like this is
Speaker 4: the edge, right, Linda fell off this piece of rocks,
Speaker 4: so still this piece of rock left. But this piece
Speaker 4: of rock was also still unstable. So when Zury stepped
Speaker 4: on this piece, it fell off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's how I took it to right.
Speaker 2: I thought she went back and put the damn ross back.
Speaker 1: Bro. I thought she built trash and built a trap.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not that crazy with her trap.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, she set this whole thing up with
Speaker 2: Brad to convince him to save her, to build this
Speaker 2: sort of man.
Speaker 1: Bro, I was gone, My thing.
Speaker 5: Is just like if you slipped on that that part
Speaker 5: of the mountain before, would you go back to that part?
Speaker 1: No, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So she I think in her mind she's like, all
Speaker 5: that shit is fragile, Like Michael was saying, all that
Speaker 5: shit right there, we do not go right there because
Speaker 5: that ship is obviously fragile.
Speaker 2: Like, did you like the scene of Jury coming back
Speaker 2: and did you think Jury was dead?
Speaker 1: Because we never seen her fall.
Speaker 2: When she washed up on shore, she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you killed me, you killed me, and it was kind
Speaker 2: of it was night she was having dreams.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I thought I knew she was dead.
Speaker 4: You're talking about when when the guy woke up and
Speaker 4: the zombie was right there. Yeah, that was what I
Speaker 4: was talking about. That like, didn't need to be there.
Speaker 4: That was an absolute Sam Raimi Evil Dead throwing.
Speaker 1: Looked at the screen and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it looks just like one of the Dead
Speaker 3: heights from Evil Dead.
Speaker 4: It's a cool throwback. Didn't really need to be there,
Speaker 4: But I'm not complaining.
Speaker 1: That made me jump.
Speaker 2: He got he got people in in hours because I
Speaker 2: heard somebody.
Speaker 3: Was like somebody else.
Speaker 1: That she got me, got me. I started.
Speaker 2: I laughed at that one was funny because I heard
Speaker 2: him say something.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I know he got somebody here,
Speaker 1: cause you can't hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't alaudable, but I was just like, oh ship.
Speaker 1: It was good, it was good. It was good. He
Speaker 1: set that up there. It was good. But uh, but
Speaker 1: it is definitely a rainy thing.
Speaker 4: But I did think it was stupid that she buried
Speaker 4: Zuri but had her arm.
Speaker 3: No, like why, I'm assuming the pig dug some of
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. I thought that that was
Speaker 2: just kind of her hand and that wasn't a burial.
Speaker 5: I don't think she buried her. I think she just
Speaker 5: probably thought she might have watched off for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she just I think because they showed
Speaker 2: her hitting the captain. She fell into the water, and
Speaker 2: I thought she washed up shore and the pigs eight
Speaker 2: at her or something.
Speaker 3: Oh, she washed on the shore and then got buried
Speaker 3: under the sand.
Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, that's what I thought, Yeah, just sticking out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I knew when I saw that pig, I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that's her.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be You're gonna see her hand, ye.
Speaker 3: Know, it's gonna be something, some sign of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: At this point, yeah, because we're at the end of
Speaker 2: the movie, so now we got to get this thing
Speaker 2: moving and uh, it was on the popper from here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he popped back on and he's like yet something.
Speaker 3: She's like, what are you talking about? Who? What?
Speaker 1: She was good. Lot.
Speaker 2: She was convincing. She was convincing. I saw the whole thing, right,
Speaker 2: I was convinced, like, damn good. But uh but nah,
Speaker 2: this was they started chasing each other, and now at
Speaker 2: this point, I'm like, how the fuck are they gonna
Speaker 2: end this?
Speaker 5: And I like seeing her seeing seeing her battle with
Speaker 5: what she did and she was like, oh, I need
Speaker 5: to take a sick day and all that ship. So
Speaker 5: it showed that she just wasn't just purely evil and
Speaker 5: those ship that she should really bother her.
Speaker 2: And that's when I knew the knife was gonna come
Speaker 2: back around too, because she kind of left it out
Speaker 2: in the open, which I guess, to your point, showed
Speaker 2: that she was really distraught about what she was doing.
Speaker 2: That she wasn't even thinking anything, so she just kind
Speaker 2: of left the knife. But I'm still thinking that at
Speaker 2: some point, you got to know the life missing. So
Speaker 2: when she reached for a help and it wasn't there,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you didn't know that earlier, but whatever, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna let that will go.
Speaker 3: She's kind of goofy.
Speaker 1: I would let it go. Goofy. Yeah, I don't know, bro,
Speaker 1: I think you know, well, anyway, let that let that go.
Speaker 2: But no, what what you guys think of the fight
Speaker 2: between them two before we get to the the reveal?
Speaker 1: Oh that was crazy. I wasn't expecting to get that
Speaker 1: crazy because he like pulled a trunk her hair and ship.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it got it got man.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, they really going at each other.
Speaker 3: No, this ship was great.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I wasn't expecting for it to
Speaker 5: be like this, Like, yeah, yeah, he really they really
Speaker 5: went at it.
Speaker 1: They really went at each other.
Speaker 4: He stabbed her, who stabbed stabbed.
Speaker 1: Him in the side. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. That
Speaker 5: was a crazy ass fight. That was a crazy g
Speaker 5: ass fight.
Speaker 2: I just didn't know how they were gonna end it
Speaker 2: because I'm like, sure he said that they're not looking
Speaker 2: for them anymore, so they stopped the search and rescue
Speaker 2: and she just kept looking, so no one knows that
Speaker 2: they're there still. So I'm like, and clearly Linda is
Speaker 2: the villain. Bradley still very much so a villain. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know what they're gonna do, and
Speaker 2: I was getting concerned and they're running and chasing after
Speaker 2: each other. She runs off and he's chasing, and then
Speaker 2: this motherfucker run around and saw this goddamn house.
Speaker 3: That guy, my god, because I was not thinking that
Speaker 3: there was a house.
Speaker 1: Over me neither.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, this motherfucker is such
Speaker 3: a life. Are you serious? It was a house over
Speaker 3: here this whole time?
Speaker 1: The whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this this, this ship was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was so at this point, who who do y'all
Speaker 1: consider the villain? At this point? That's what the brand.
Speaker 3: So this is no villain. There's no good guys. There's
Speaker 3: two people that are morally reprehensible and they're both being that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I feel like she was kind of becoming him on this.
Speaker 1: She did become him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that that I did like that she she
Speaker 2: They basically flipped rolls and I was like, the only
Speaker 2: way they're gonna make this work is they gotta kill
Speaker 2: them both somehow, And I just but how do you
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 1: I didn't know? And then don't think.
Speaker 2: I'm like, because when I'm watching, I'm like, those are
Speaker 2: some clean ass looking fruits and vegetables that she got,
Speaker 2: even though you.
Speaker 3: Got it from there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, whoa had a spread?
Speaker 3: She did looked good. He was liked.
Speaker 2: He was like, but they did such a good job
Speaker 2: with her, Like like, dang, bro that that's a spread.
Speaker 1: Where is she from in this ship from?
Speaker 3: I didn't think that at the time, but I did.
Speaker 1: Ask where is she find of this ship from?
Speaker 3: All this ship island, all this ship on this It
Speaker 3: could be.
Speaker 1: It could be. I didn't know.
Speaker 4: It was more than when she was like, oh you
Speaker 4: need the sauce. I was like, oh, you made some sauce.
Speaker 4: It made sense once they found the house and they
Speaker 4: never found the house, I was gonna call bullshit on that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you you made sauce. How the fun did
Speaker 4: you make? Dipping sauce?
Speaker 1: Some of yeah, that was now we see how Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was like an orange parade and some ship
Speaker 1: she could do that.
Speaker 3: It was clear.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was a clear sauce that she was dipping the fish.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: I was like, what the spread was crazy? I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: there's a house everything made on this island, because that's
Speaker 4: that's what's so good about this.
Speaker 3: Because at this point I was like, is this her house?
Speaker 3: I thought that what's happening?
Speaker 1: I had had that thought too, like oh ship, damn.
Speaker 2: But it was mysterious for real, just some random billionaire
Speaker 2: that just got there.
Speaker 1: Just it's just out there. You don't even know what and.
Speaker 2: Uh, they had the big showdown and she came around
Speaker 2: with the shoty.
Speaker 3: This was fucking great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking to his ass on the intercom and ship
Speaker 1: that was just said. She said what she said.
Speaker 4: About the knife, Yes, show up on the shore, And
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, that was dumb for
Speaker 4: me to believe that, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: I believe that too, Mike. But I kept saying to
Speaker 1: myself that knife is clean as fun.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was, it's sharp, and I'm like, well, maybe she
Speaker 2: just tightened it up.
Speaker 4: I just assumed it fell from the plane. I assumed
Speaker 4: it was part of the plane and it. I didn't
Speaker 4: think that hard about the knife till she clowned before it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, surprise like rolls up on what she said it
Speaker 1: floats up on shore ship. Yeah, that's what she said.
Speaker 2: It's such a just one line of just she just
Speaker 2: threw out there like okay, all right, fine, cool, but
Speaker 2: it was like what else washed up on shore? Like
Speaker 2: you just the only thing to watch it was a knife.
Speaker 2: But anyway, but nah, this this was good. The question
Speaker 2: I have Rod did you believe that she believed what
Speaker 2: Bradley was selling her at the end when he was
Speaker 2: talking about I love you and all that other stuff.
Speaker 5: I was really hoping not because that would have ruined
Speaker 5: the movie for me. I was like, there's no way
Speaker 5: you're falling for this. He ain't be falling for this. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So I was not wanting to believe that she was
Speaker 5: falling for it.
Speaker 1: You think she failed for Mike.
Speaker 4: I thought she was and I thought she was crazy.
Speaker 4: But that kind of goes into the point of the movie.
Speaker 4: It's like, of course you're gonna think the woman's crazy.
Speaker 4: But when he was like I love you and she's
Speaker 4: like I love you too, I was like, Oh, she's
Speaker 4: going for it. But then we saw the thing behind
Speaker 4: his back and I was like, oh, you're gruing it.
Speaker 4: I never believed him at all. I always thought he was.
Speaker 3: Lying, but I definitely think she believed him for a minute.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Rod.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's a movie thing to do, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, let's not do this, because again,
Speaker 2: I don't know how they go to end the movie.
Speaker 2: So at this point I'm thinking, well, they both gotta die.
Speaker 2: Maybe he shoot, she gets stabbed and they just both die.
Speaker 2: So that's one thing I had in my head. And
Speaker 2: I'm also saying to myself, he ran the same game
Speaker 2: on you earlier in the movie, and you fell for it,
Speaker 2: and you're about to fall for it again.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Mike. I was like, Okay, is she
Speaker 1: crazy now? Is she completely gone?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And she just wanted to just believe any old thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I have a clear answer,
Speaker 2: because she did put the shotgun down.
Speaker 1: Well, we never got a real answer. She just saw
Speaker 1: that he had the thing. No, I think we got
Speaker 1: an answer. I thought she was about to shoot his
Speaker 1: ass because she was just like something about strategy.
Speaker 5: She was just like like like apparently she was planning
Speaker 5: this whole ship to be able to come victorious.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, because okay, I see she said that
Speaker 2: after she before she killed him. Yeah, I see where
Speaker 2: you're going. M Okay, So let's let's baby talk it
Speaker 2: out just a little bit more.
Speaker 1: So it was a callback.
Speaker 2: No, I remember that, But I'm talking about like, like
Speaker 2: did she believe him or not? Because she still had
Speaker 2: to wrestle with him and win that fight. But there
Speaker 2: were no bullets in the gun. Did she know that
Speaker 2: the gun was empty?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think it was all
Speaker 5: part of her strategy. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, because she says it, she literally says it. I
Speaker 1: remember the exact quote she said.
Speaker 2: He said, he said Linda from accounting, and then she
Speaker 2: was like corporate strategy, hit her with the golf club
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 2: And then you know, at the end of the movie
Speaker 2: and she's running everything. So the villain, I guess one.
Speaker 3: Or she an anti anti heroes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think she's a villain. I don't know
Speaker 1: she kidnapped this dude, Okay, he was a hostage. You
Speaker 1: don't think he was hostage? Not really.
Speaker 3: You know, he could have left anytime you want.
Speaker 1: The road swell. I thought he was gonna get on
Speaker 1: that boat and leave. No, she has be a villain.
Speaker 1: She killed her husband. I don't think she killed her husband. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't bet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't accept that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all.
Speaker 5: But that's what that's what I like about it, though.
Speaker 5: I like I like the fact that you're questioning was
Speaker 5: that she's a villain. Well you're not questioning it, but
Speaker 5: we are right. I'm not saying that she is. Yeah,
Speaker 5: said I think she's a survivor. I think that's what
Speaker 5: it boils down to. And her quote was like, uh
Speaker 5: when she say, no one's gonna come save you, so
Speaker 5: y'all can't basically help yourself save yourself. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: be a survivor basically, and everything kind of wraps up
Speaker 5: in both. Yeah, damn, And she's driving off in the
Speaker 5: car with the interview thing.
Speaker 1: She wrote a book. Yeah, and the damn survived.
Speaker 2: I guess she has a lot of food in that
Speaker 2: damn ship because she was what they said she was.
Speaker 1: Going for a month yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you think back to the beginning the movie,
Speaker 5: she got what she felt like it was old to her.
Speaker 1: She put in what fifteen years at that job yep.
Speaker 1: And and her and his dad promised.
Speaker 2: Her Yeah wait nah Okay, So if we think corporates strategists,
Speaker 2: maybe could this have been her plan the whole time
Speaker 2: to find a way to get really want to know
Speaker 2: that the plane was going to crash. No, I'm talking
Speaker 2: about once she got on the island and she saw
Speaker 2: that he wasn't gonna change.
Speaker 1: Oh he talking about going back to your first point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, she said maybe now because she never wanted
Speaker 2: to leave the island. She said she never wanted to
Speaker 2: leave the island. She said she used to stay there,
Speaker 2: So I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, well she I think she did, because that's why
Speaker 5: she said not yet. So I think at that point
Speaker 5: she had a strategy.
Speaker 1: Okay, she her plan.
Speaker 5: She she had a plan, and she was trying to
Speaker 5: see it through first, So maybe that's what the not
Speaker 5: yet applied, like, okay, not yet, let me, let me
Speaker 5: see through this plan.
Speaker 2: But then it got to the campfire and the toilet one,
Speaker 2: and then she said we should never leave the island,
Speaker 2: and then that the switch. So I don't know, but overall,
Speaker 2: I was satisfied with the end, where you guys.
Speaker 1: Mike said he wasn't. I was satisfied with it. It
Speaker 1: was fine for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I guess I would start to wonder, how
Speaker 4: did you get away with this? That's not your house?
Speaker 4: Whose house is that? The house is gonna be fucked
Speaker 4: up a bit. You have blood all over one of
Speaker 4: the rooms. It just didn't really I don't know. It
Speaker 4: didn't really resonate. They said it in the news clipping.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what they were saying. I think they
Speaker 4: were more more impressed.
Speaker 5: But how she survived than anything, and I think that
Speaker 5: that trump everything.
Speaker 2: But somebody broke into the house, Well she can clean
Speaker 2: up the blood the body, she could bury her feet
Speaker 2: to the boors. But I'm with you, I just I
Speaker 2: don't know if there was that was the whole thing.
Speaker 2: When I'm watching the second part of the movie. Definitely
Speaker 2: moving to the third act, how the hell they're going
Speaker 2: to end this in a way that makes sense?
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I got you, m hm. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: was fine with it though.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wasn't a trash ending or anything. It was
Speaker 3: just like, all right, well here was that.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make a movie about her story.
Speaker 3: I hope not.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Anyway, that is it.
Speaker 2: Let us know, man in the and I Reddit, what
Speaker 2: did you guys think about the ending of this movie?
Speaker 2: Was she a villain or anti hero? And if you
Speaker 2: guys made it all the way to the end, I
Speaker 2: did look it up, right, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: looked it up. But apparently sailing is easier at night.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, I saw that. No, it's not
Speaker 5: necessarily like settled at night. I did see that sailing
Speaker 5: is easy at night, it could see. No, no, no,
Speaker 5: I saw that as not settled at night, like the
Speaker 5: waters aren't settled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know, maybe it is easier.
Speaker 3: I would assume it would just depend on where you're
Speaker 3: at that.
Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, I don't think it would be more rough rougher.
Speaker 1: I think only like if it's a storm or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like, yeah, when you don't see nobody surfing
Speaker 5: it like I see surfers be Yeah.
Speaker 4: They don't surf at night because there's no bodyguards are
Speaker 4: not supposed to buy law.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was looking up the ending.
Speaker 2: Well, if y'all know the answer to that, let us
Speaker 2: know in the conversation too, what you got right.
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: A year later, Linda is successful, celebrated survivor and author,
Speaker 5: having covering up the depths.
Speaker 1: Of everyone on the island. So I'm with Mike on that, like.
Speaker 5: To cover that up and fully embracing the cutthroat corporate
Speaker 5: persona she once despised.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did like that she finally learned how to
Speaker 4: play the game, and that was one thing that she
Speaker 4: was missing throughout the film, but when she learned it,
Speaker 4: she got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a completely different person we saw at the end
Speaker 2: compared to the beginning.
Speaker 4: And I liked how they used golf because the guy
Speaker 4: had said that he was hiring his golf buddy, so
Speaker 4: now she learned to play golf. So yeah, everything was
Speaker 4: good to me, just the ending. And the ending only
Speaker 4: knocked off like a point. It wasn't like a humongous deal.
Speaker 1: Well there you have it. Let us know what you
Speaker 1: guys thinks in help we oh peace