WEBVTT - Patreon Voted: A Thin Line Between Love & Hate (30th Anniversary) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:09.559 The Frames per Second Podcast. It was good. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.280 Everybody, Welcome to another frames per second review. This is 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.360 an anniversary film I believe. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.079 Came out in ninety six, So that's who's good at Math? 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:26.720 Thirty No, it's no, it's forty years, is it? 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:29.440 No, it's thirty. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.640 Yeah, twenty six years, and then you yeah. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:42.840 Yeah, thirty Yeah, I got scared, Okay, yeah, thirty thirty 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:44.199 thirty I'm not. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:45.280 I told you I wouldn't get it. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:45.479 Math. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.640 You should have him, I said, which, I said, Calculus? 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.960 I said, which one of y'all better than Math? Look 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.360 at him next time? Right right? 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.280 But yeah, man, we're doing the thin line between love 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.920 and hate. Man, this came out in nineteen ninety six. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.600 Because I watched this movie so much me too when 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.399 it came out, so I didn't even I didn't like. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.479 I didn't even really think I needed to watch it again. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.720 So if y'all watched it again, if if it's any 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.039 specific things that y'all want to point out, like jokes 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.679 and stuff, please by any means, Sam, because I did not. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.040 I've seen it so many times. I know the premise 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.880 and what it is, so I've seen it a lot too. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.160 But for some reason in my mind, I forgot Bobby 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:22.959 Brown was this. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:28.360 Man was It was. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.319 Thought he was he was going to continue to make 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.399 movies after this man because he was really good. He 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:38.240 was really good. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.440 He was really good. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.720 But but anyway, man, they labeled it as a comedy thriller. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.360 I don't know if y'all know that, which is kind 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.440 of kind of accurate, kind of accurate. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.160 But it tells the story of Donnelle Right, which is 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.360 played by Martin and he's a ladies man who finds 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:59.000 himself stocked by wanting uh brandy and and so like 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.560 we were saying, this start ours Martin Lawrence, Lynn whit Phield, 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.320 which was man, she was so bad. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.920 I don't know, y'all living with Field fans, who is 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.040 she Brandy? Okay, I ain't know. Yeah, yeah, I didn't 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.200 know who she was to this movie. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.720 Oh really, I had seen her. I remember her before this. Yeah, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:16.880 I don't think. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:18.760 Her as some else. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.360 I can't remember what it was, but I saw something 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.600 that else, Regina King, Bobby Brown, as we just mentioned, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.280 Deren Menchell, Roger Moley, and del Reice was. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.000 I Field seventy three years old? Damn huh, I. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.320 Know she was seventy and she's still still look good. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.800 But who's seventy three with Phield? Oh and she still 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:42.320 looks good. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.920 I mean she looks older than Martin, so I always 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.320 thought that she was probably a bit older. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:54.240 Yeah, but yeah, this, this is definitely Martin's hYP right here. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.320 Like the nineties. Man, man, he was Martin. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.680 He had his own production companies, ain't by him and 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:04.560 everything he wrote it and everything and everything. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:05.960 He was on fire run. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.480 Yeah, he was on fire. Yeah. But yeah, so uh 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:12.640 so you said, y'all, so I'll start here. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.600 So you said, y'all were surprised by Bobby Brown's performance. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:16.639 I forgot. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.639 He was just good and he was like Martin is 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.720 funny naturally, using Bobby Brown for the comedic relief. 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.480 I feel like it was a brilliant move. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.480 Yes, you don't really associate Bobby Brown with being funny, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.960 I know, necessarily, but he played this world hope. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.680 He was perfect. We didn't watch that show with him 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.840 and Whitney then, I didn't. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.640 You really didn't after I think that way after that. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.000 But he's a funny motherfucker. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.440 Bro. No, he's great. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.600 I mean he's always been entertaining obviously, like playing this film. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.080 The way that he was just so natural. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.680 Yeah, that was the thing that you know, I did 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.240 rewatch it, but that was the thing that I know. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.480 I was like, oh shit, this was really really natural 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:57.160 and easy for us. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.960 Yeah, it seemed like him. It just seemed like him. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:01.840 I do remember that. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.200 So, like I said, if you since you anybody else 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.840 rewatch it? I needed an excuse. I haven't watched it 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:08.120 the one. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.840 Yeah, yeah, I wanted to get to it, but I 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.480 just didn't have time to. But anyway, it starts off 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:18.240 with Donnell Wright. He's a nightclub owner slash playboard. He's 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.880 a nightcloub manager actually at the Chocolate City. He's known 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.000 for like trading v I P passes access for favors 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:32.680 from women. And what did y'all think about Martin Bobby Brown? 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.720 I mean, what was what was his name in this? 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.600 I can't remember t T What did y'all think about 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.920 them as as a cruel dynamic, these people that these 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.520 guys that work at Chocolate City. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.000 You know, I wonder using the now that I think 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.560 about it, Dela was in here, and then they had 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.320 the guy that stuttered that you know, seemed to have 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.320 definitely come from Harlem, nights. But you know, as a 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.520 bit of coming really because even when he was drinking, 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.719 he was like, Man, I think there's drinking. The alcohol 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:08.279 make you talk about us, right, yeah, But because he 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.080 did that was president about it. But now I think 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.240 I think they all fit and I think that was 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.480 the thing. It definitely seemed like they were boys. It 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.039 definitely seemed like their whole thing was to get girls, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:20.800 to see who can get the most girls and stuff 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.880 like that, and you know, that sort. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.920 Of ship that they were doing happening all the time. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.880 So it made sense for them, you know, and to 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.280 use their positional privilege. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.080 You know, to their advantage as well. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.480 It made me miss that they they don't make movies 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.240 like this anymore where you just get to see that 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:44.200 dynamic black people it's us. I just missed that, like 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.400 The Wood, this Best Man, four Brothers, all of that 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:48.600 type of stuff it used to come out. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.359 This made me nostalgic of that their relationship. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:56.320 Together gotch You what, Mike, how did you feel about 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.000 Martin's performance in this translating from the show to this movie. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.520 You know what I'm saying, like, because we saw him 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:02.920 on the show and stuff like that, and we kind 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.160 of seen him in like House Party, but for him 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.280 to do like a lead role in this, how did 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:08.760 you feel? 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.080 I think he felt natural, man. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.559 Definitely, it still felt like Martin more than House Party, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.359 of course, but I mean, yeah, I think he felt 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.920 real natural. He did a he did a really good job. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.800 He's a good actor and he's got good comedic timing. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.120 There were there were there were moments that felt very dated, 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.200 and then there was a little bit of the dialogue was. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.360 Just like all right, that's not great, but who cares. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.880 But there was also like you could tell Martin wrote it, 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.680 because it's like, bro, you're getting all these women. Come 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:40.760 on now, like, come you three and a half feet tall, man, 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:45.800 you're not getting all these women. He was, yeah, like 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:52.600 the laundrymat girl, Like he just comes ridiculous. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.479 You know she's in there, she's working there. Don't have confidence, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.040 so it's easy victim. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:59.560 Yeah, I got it. Yeah. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.640 When she was in the club and he was like, yeah, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.560 you know you look good girl, you're going to dance, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.520 and she said over there. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.360 She wanted it so fast, bro. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:20.000 Give it up. Oh man, that was the one. So 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.120 when we used to he said that. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:35.040 Memory Lane, what did y'all think about Della Reese is 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.840 playing that is his mom, Like, what how did y'all 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.200 feel about that dynamic with his mom and everything? 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.160 Because I felt like they tried, you know, they showed that. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.960 I do remember them showing that relationship. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.520 How do y'all feel about that? That it was good? 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:48.520 I liked it. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.240 I think, you know, using her again, you know, going 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.080 back the Harlem nights, you know, giving her work, helping 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.760 her you know. I mean, I don't know what she 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.480 was doing up to this point, but a familiar face 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.840 for only black audiences, giving her work, and I think 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.880 she was a good fit, that motherly authority figure that 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.480 didn't take any mess. Like when Lynn Willfield's Brandy rolled up. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.280 She was like out there and then cutting them. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.960 Out years old, Yes, and I never had so she 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.440 played the motherly role very very well. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.040 Nah, she did. No black was like that, Nah for sure. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:32.000 And then like even like the how she felt about uh, 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.480 the old childhood friend like she me and she wanted 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.479 she like She's like, no, it's a really. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.760 Good wholesome girl, you know what I'm saying. How did 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.520 y'all feel about Regina in this movie? 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.400 Like her being the childhood friend, Like, I don't know 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.920 how I always felt about that storyline personally, How did 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.080 y'all feel about what do you mean about like like 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.920 Regina and other Her and other movies felt a little 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.880 bit more impactful than it did from what from what 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.679 I remember here, like that storyline with her? 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.640 Did that feel like something to y'all? That was about product? 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.280 I think I understand what you're saying. Yeah, it didn't 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.200 get enough. They didn't bake it enough. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.400 They didn't bank it enough for me, even because they 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.040 had them like playing on the basketball and stuff like that, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.080 it just I just didn't never feel. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.360 Like a real friendship, friendship connection. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.360 Or like And I think the other part is is 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.079 like I just never was I'm with you. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.200 It's like it's got a batter, Like. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.640 I always felt that way. So I just wanted to 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.280 know how y'all that's kind of. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:38.720 I'm with you. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.520 I feel bad for being with you, but I'm yeah, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.360 because the whole time I'm like, bro, even crazy, I was. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:49.960 Just great, Okay, I thought, okay, okay, all right, all right. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.240 No, I mean, Virginia King is obviously a beautiful woman, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.600 she's a great actor, but it just it didn't there 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.120 was no real chemistry there. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.120 It didn't really come home for me. So I'm with you. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.680 I got you. She had all the money, bro, like 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.160 he was, I wouldn't have fucked up. I'm sorry out. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.760 So all I gotta do is just stick around and 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:10.240 be nice. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:15.040 Bro. Let's go any let's go. Yeah that was. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.439 That was And I think the thing about the storyline 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.280 from the introduced childhood friend you know, to there was 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.720 something not something her understanding and knowing what type of 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:30.079 person he is and he's a player player. Her accepting 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:36.280 him that quickly was on this watch was like, damn, 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:36.960 it happened fast. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.120 Yeah. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.360 Yeah, so let's get into it before could we kind 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.720 of like talking around it? But so yeah, personally talking 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:47.840 about this Brandy Web. She's wealthy, she's gorgeous. She enters 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.200 the club and Darnelle Caesar as a challenge and then 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.120 he begins to like pursue her. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:54.960 She rejects him. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.760 He saw before the club, right, he saw somewhere else 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.840 before the club and inviting was it all? 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.240 Yeah, you saw like this lady or somebody dropped the 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.560 car in her in their car. Well no, Bobby Brown 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.600 approached her first, yes, and May stepped in to be like, 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.400 you know, no, I'm sorry. He whatever, he's crazy. Yeah, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.679 here's a here's a vi P coming. She's like, why 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:16.480 would I come to that? 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.800 Right right? Girl? And he was like she can't. She 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.280 came ship, she came up. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.679 So, yeah, man, how did y'all feel about Brandy Web? 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.200 Just right just at this point before we get to 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.120 the other stuff, but right now, at this point, what 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:36.959 was you'll feelings about her? She's as healthy, she's rich, 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.800 and she looked crazy crazy she. 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:41.720 Does. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.160 Yeah, yeah, she looked like one of them ones your meeting, Like, man, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.520 I played with her like he's gonna be a long day. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.280 She looks like the kind of girl that I would 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.960 have messed around with and got myself in trouble because 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:54.560 I'm stupid. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.080 Yeah, that's something about right. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:11:58.920 Here. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.040 I want to I want to talk to kids, so 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.160 you can do that when you're young man with crazy 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:06.760 ass people. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.400 Yeah, but I never liked the crazy. I just never. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.120 You ain't lived, I just never. I mean I've been 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:18.800 with crazy ones. I just didn't like it. I didn't 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:19.120 like it. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.199 I don't like crazy crazy. I know what you're saying, 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.520 You're boring. Maybe for a weekend, bro, I had a knife, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:27.560 put some money before. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.959 I mean, that's it. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.520 But that was it. I'm like, I don't even know 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:43.240 if I can go to sleep for real. That's cool 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:47.480 for you. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.880 Sitting never mind, I never had one that was that 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.400 kind of violence, that's like I'm going to kill you. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.959 Well, she might have thought about it, but she didn't. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.240 She didn't loud, no, she did No, she just did 0:12:59.280 --> 0:12:59.880 some other ship. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.680 It's like, all right, yeah, you kind of absolutely now 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.480 I'm good on that. I'm good on that. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.640 But so he didn't have a scene of because she's 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.520 like a real estate agent or something like, yeah, so 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.760 he so this is how he tries to court her 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:15.800 or whatever, get with her? 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:16.199 What? What? 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:22.520 How did y'all feel about this whole scene of being 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:23.600 at the at the. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.840 House watching this this age. I side with her a 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.960 lot more than I do with more. She was right 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.920 like you came over to playing in that lady life bush. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:37.960 Everything you get from this you deserve. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.720 I'm sorry, like absolutely, like I've always thought that she 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.920 was I didn't think that as as a younger person 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.240 watching her now with my age, I'm like, she is justified. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.800 I think that your dumb felt probably felt like Martin. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.040 I could relate to him more. But I can see 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:57.360 Spike be the crazy crazy Nah. I was always on 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.640 her side, like she did that when she said tell 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.560 me you love me, and he's like I love you. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.080 Yeah, Like no, man, like you can tell something's off 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.559 right now, and you talking about I love you? 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:10.440 Why would you do that? 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:15.000 Every bit that Martin got, he actually got worse. Wors 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.120 should have happened to him for what he did facts well, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:23.360 and you know, uh, she told him don't play with. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.840 Me, like, don't funk around. I've been heard, Yeah, yeah, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.560 I've been heard before. This this ain't this ain't it? 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.920 And he didn't listen because he had this challenge with 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.840 his friend yep, you know, to prove he can hit it, 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.120 you know, which was I mean, it probably is still 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.040 a thing to this day. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.240 Oh yeah, yeah it is. Pab know these kids a 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.880 little different now that I guarantee. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.520 It's still a thing with kids, especially if you're in 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:50.480 certain neighborhoods. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.160 One hundred percent think it's still a thing. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.200 Certain neighborhoods will give you that probably still yeah, but. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.480 Like yeah, like I don't know, he look like luckily 0:14:59.560 --> 0:14:59.960 I didn't have to. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.400 I don't think I didn't have to deal with that 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.080 with my girls, Like no, no, guys really pushed up. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:04.760 On them like that. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.360 And then yeah, they say, like, you know, guy's gonna 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.400 be approaching girls like that these days, is what I hear. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.520 So yeah, I am hearing that for us. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.840 It's it's it's a couple of reasons why But you 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.480 know that I've heard of this at the show for it, 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.800 but I think, you know, it definitely reminded me of 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.240 how ship was back in the day and growing up, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.160 you know, especially being around my friends. So it was 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.280 it was definitely a fucking flashback. But but she told 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.200 him like, nah, I don't do it, but he was. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:42.000 He was persistent to win this fucking challenge and you know, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.560 and oh yeah, what was the other point is you 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.720 know they they even said, like the cold they said 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.600 early on, the rule is we never tell them you 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:53.160 love them. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:58.280 Ye man, Look that stuck with me for so I. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:02.680 Was so scared to tell a love like like man, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.880 like I'm serious, I'm serious like that then line has 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:06.840 always been in my head. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:07.600 It fucked me up. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.080 I was like, man, I can't tell a girl I 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.440 love unless I really love her. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.200 I can't lie. I can't. I can't. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.320 That's that it became my rule. But then it became 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.360 my rule. But the ship, yeah, bro, and they probably 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.120 still do it to this day. But I'm just speaking 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.920 back back in the day. That ship we were just 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.880 they would just throw that shit out there. Yeah, just 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.960 say that ship just because to do what they need to. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.320 Do right, right, You would love to have more content 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.960 from frames per second. Become a patron where you can 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.160 contribute to what we review and discuss. Our patreon gives 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.680 the listeners the power to nominate and vote a monthly 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.120 discussion and film review, while also nominating and voting on 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.520 weekly solo reviews from each cast member. 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Immediately I 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.760 was like, bro, this woman. I mean again, I'm not 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.240 even joking on her. Look, she's beautiful, beautiful, but she 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.240 looks nuts. She plays nuts so well. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:49.520 But nah. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.960 When she said that ship about I've been hurt, don't 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.199 hurt me again. And then when she said tell me 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.120 you love me, I was like, she is nuts. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:05.160 Don't do it, but do it. But I feel you, 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.159 But I feel if you do it, I feel you. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.919 I understand if you do it, but don't do that. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.040 And he fucking does it. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:19.440 No, for sure, I mean I mean, can you blame him. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.879 You know, at my young age, no, at my middle 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.720 to later a yes, when I was in my by 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.600 the time I got to like my late twenties, I 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:27.160 wouldn't plan. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:27.720 No. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.760 No, you can't tell somebody you and especially if they 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.920 do it like that, if they're telling you I've been hurt, 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.000 don't hurt that woman. If you don't have any good 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:40.959 expectations or not exectations, if you don't have any good intentions, 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:41.400 thank you. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.520 Just leave her alone. Man. Yeah for sure. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:51.800 Yeah. I think it was right around the horse. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.520 Riding scene and I think that's when we first saw 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.400 the change, because he tried to push your up owner 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.959 into the you know, he tried to do it right 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.960 there Land We've been there, man, listen. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.360 To the dialogue. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.040 I'm like, yeah, sol juvenile. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:07.600 Ship like that. 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.760 You sound like a high schooler, which was crazy, but. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.560 Yeah, and then he kind of cussed her out and 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.159 stuff like that, we have been together, what you're scared of? 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.320 Why you playing with me? 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.640 Making her feel guilty and ship. 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.600 Like that because she wasn't ready to have sets with him, 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.399 which is what she said, I'm not ready for us 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.959 to go there yet, and he's pressing for the issue 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.359 and then cuts her out. Then she comes to the 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.000 club the second time and he rejects her, and then 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:36.880 that's what they did their close up on her face 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:37.440 ride and. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:38.240 The music too. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.440 Yeap and there it is. That's the crazy. 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.600 And then from that point on, that's when she got 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.680 invited back to He got invited back to the house. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.960 Gotch So yeah, that's that's what I was looking for, ken. 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.800 So yeah, So at that point he's thrown off, and 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.359 then he realizes that he's more in love with his 0:19:55.480 --> 0:20:01.679 childhood friend Mia and then decides to end things with Brandy, 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.800 and that's when she does not take it. Well, that's 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.160 when like she you know, you see how she becomes 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:09.600