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Speaker 1: They seized a fan morning show with Kibi Shab and

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Speaker 1: Jeff Rivers goes out of the gun row on the

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Speaker 2: Here's the flag on the play.

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Speaker 1: Rivers has a free shot, throws into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown in the fact of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: It's Alan Pierce and the plate covers twenty yards to

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Speaker 2: And the Pones guard touchdown on their.

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Speaker 1: Opening drive of the game. Five live three guard on

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Speaker 2: That's the wide side of the field.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback back's to throw plants look it throws over the

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Speaker 1: middle end of the end zone. He's got a man

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown. That's DeMarcus Robinson and just like that,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco has answered the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: By the Colts.

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Speaker 1: A mere abduo on the return for the Colts, rumbling

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Speaker 1: across the twenty five.

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Speaker 2: He may have lost the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's available inside the thirty. There's a penalty on the plate.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's celebrating a recovery and his second in goal

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Speaker 1: with the two following the time out. San Francisco going

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Speaker 1: left to right shotgun stat for party five step drop

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Speaker 1: Rose fights out of the goal line touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That's Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: He finds the end zone on a two yard pass

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Speaker 1: from Purty four down lineman for San Francisco Rivers out

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Speaker 1: of the gun. Back's the past, he's got time. He

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Speaker 3: Zone and patch down.

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Speaker 4: Here's a gain touchdown for two tonight for all at

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Speaker 4: piers did that covers sixteen yards to the house.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was on fire whole game. He managed

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Speaker 5: the offense at the line of scrimmageet some no huddle

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Speaker 5: stuff with him getting this down to the right place,

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Speaker 5: you know, for it's in the right spots.

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Speaker 6: Every time I'm down flying to the right side, they

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Speaker 6: think it to nobody pretty rolling to his right, scanning looking,

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Speaker 6: he's at the fifteen yard line, throws across his body

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Speaker 6: into the end zone and that is a catch for

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Speaker 6: a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And that is George Kettle the tight end. Purdy goes

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Speaker 1: out of the gun and two receivers go to the

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Speaker 1: right side. Shotgun snap for the quarterback. There comes the

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Speaker 1: rush by the Colts. He throws left left tight on

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Speaker 1: down touchdown Rivers shotgun step quick throw and it's picked

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Speaker 1: off the intercept the bight Dve winners, and he's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: He's got nobody in front of him down the right sideline,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna score. It's gonna be a pick six like

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Speaker 1: d winners, and that is gonna give San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: seven points and the defense gets involved in a scoring party.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, we gotta find ways to win, especially in November

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Speaker 5: and December. That's where you win games, and that's where

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Speaker 5: you're making the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: So we gotta do a better job than I always

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Speaker 6: do a.

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Speaker 7: Better job than that.

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Speaker 8: I'm torn of how to express it because it's been

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Speaker 8: a blast. It's been a blast to prepare and to

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Speaker 8: can go so you can get ready and go out

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Speaker 8: there and warm up and do all that with these

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Speaker 8: guys again.

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Speaker 2: But again, the maybe of the game.

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Speaker 8: Is not, you know, go have a good time. This

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Speaker 8: helped find a way to lead your team to win,

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Speaker 8: and we've come up short here.

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Speaker 4: These first two, two very different movies continue to play

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Speaker 4: out as we end the twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five Cult season eleven straight years without a home playoff game.

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Speaker 2: If I were the decision makers over there on West

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Speaker 2: fifty sixth Street, that would be a pretty hard one

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Speaker 2: to or not only just from a fandom standpoint, but

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Speaker 2: also from a financial standpoint. Good Tuesday morning to you.

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Speaker 2: We'll dissect it all here coming up. This will be

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Speaker 2: our final show until Friday. Caleb Zuber, great work there

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Speaker 2: on the intro. Much appreciative. I know it was a

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Speaker 2: long night for all parties involved. How about a little

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Speaker 2: Christmas gift here to start and Caleb, I guess we'll

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Speaker 2: just bet on people showing integrity on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 2: I'd love if we could give away a four pack

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Speaker 2: of tickets here, maybe to dad with daughter or daughters plurally.

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Speaker 2: James Boy the number one rank Yukon Huskies inside of

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Speaker 2: Hinklefield House coming up on Sunday, Ashland Shade among others

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Speaker 2: for Gina Rim and company in the building. So how

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Speaker 2: about a four pack butler Yukon women again that is

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Speaker 2: a number one ranked team and all the land taking

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Speaker 2: on Austin Parkinson's bunch coming out that Sunday four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: So fast fingers Caleb three one, seven, two, three, nine,

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Speaker 2: It'll starts with this Tuesday James, good morning.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing good, I will say, speaking of birthdays and

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Speaker 9: gifts in the holidays. So I found out talking to

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Speaker 9: Talking to my dad and he's like, yeah, we give

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Speaker 9: a thirtieth birthday, you know. I was like, what are

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Speaker 2: Looks like somebody's tally marking a little bit here on

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Speaker 2: the Boyd family.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah there, And look, my sister goes out to you.

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Speaker 9: She ain't going on McDonald's. You know, she's going somewhere.

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Speaker 9: What you gotta get a reservation in?

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Speaker 2: defense last night. That that is true two different movies.

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Speaker 2: James and I thought the Philip Rivers quote, and we'll

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Speaker 2: more than I expected, particularly early in that game. That

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Speaker 2: It just seemed like, I don't know, for some reason,

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Speaker 2: that just sucks so much life out of what was,

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Speaker 2: you know, a great, great start, and now here we

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Speaker 2: That's not lost on me either. Happened last year with

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that was just another.

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Speaker 9: That's part for the for this team over the last

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Speaker 9: have that sort of defensive performance is inexcusable. And trying

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Speaker 9: why these things continue to happen, whether it's the offense

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Speaker 9: like you said when we open the show, there's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you say cores, it extends much more

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Speaker 2: these are the third contract guys. That's what I meant.

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Speaker 2: You know, captains of your football team that really have

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Speaker 2: had little change over over the years. And yes, when

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Speaker 2: Shane Steiken element. For example, you have to separate yes

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Speaker 2: offensive game plan last night and the ability to score

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Speaker 2: twenty seven points brilliant, But you're also the head coach

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Speaker 2: of the football team, and when you consider all fastest

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Speaker 2: of the game, there's just too much there that continue

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Speaker 2: you know, again there's no better example of a team

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Speaker 2: The defense again just an absolute abomination. The fact that

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Speaker 2: was just unbelievable. Balance like none other. I think two

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Speaker 9: Going back to the Christian McCaffrey receiving touchdown to highlight

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Speaker 9: how bad the defense was. Kevin they scored twice on

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Speaker 2: They don't challenge it.

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Speaker 9: clearly two feet in toe tap toe drag swag as

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Speaker 9: they call it, and it's a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: And they're so confident in their offense that they're like.

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Speaker 9: You know what, we don't even want to waste the

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Speaker 9: opportunity of getting the flag out of our pocket, James,

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Speaker 10: That could I just want to jump here, because that

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Speaker 10: is what I was saying to myself last night.

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Speaker 2: My dad and are talking. That's exactly what I said.

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Speaker 10: They didn't even worry about challenging it because that's how

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Speaker 2: The ease at which they operated last night stood out

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not so again, official Nation from the AFC South.

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Speaker 2: at you all right. The final score last night, forty

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Speaker 5: They scored a lot of points, went up and down

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Speaker 2: The first eight San Francisco drives of the game yesterday,

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Speaker 9: So the only thing that stopped him really was the crossbar.

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Speaker 2: The loudest crossbar in the NFL. I swear when that

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Speaker 9: In my opinion, I'm not trying to get up here

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Speaker 2: Uh? One oh one to fifty two? Oh baby, it

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Speaker 9: There was nothing better than Rosie Bown praying on somebody's downfall.

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Speaker 2: And again we're still deciding the AFC North winner. We've

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the Colt's performance? What do

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think there's been a more damning

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Speaker 9: of that group, what is your excuse? You haven't even

436
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Speaker 9: earned the grace that perhaps Buckner has given his resume

437
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Speaker 9: the last few years and what he's played through the

438
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Speaker 9: last few years. But Quitty pay can't find you to

439
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Speaker 9: lat too did have the stripsack. Other than that, where

440
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Speaker 9: are you? And it felt like again brock Purdy was

441
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Speaker 9: pretty much going through like a seven on seven drill

442
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Speaker 9: at times.

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Speaker 2: I think he went through his progressions twice. Yeah, he

444
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Speaker 2: had a ton of time back there. Let me scan

445
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Speaker 2: back one, two, three, four.

446
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Speaker 9: And again when it came down to the other side

447
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Speaker 9: of that lack of pressure, the let's get the ball

448
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Speaker 9: out there in the air and see what happens. You

449
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 9: have nobody who can make a play on the ball

450
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Speaker 9: outside of cam Binam who caught an interception that was

451
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Speaker 9: on an overthrown pass.

452
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Speaker 2: Slightly.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't even like you're not taking anythingway from cam Biningham,

454
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Speaker 9: not to say it was his fault. He caught an interception,

455
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Speaker 9: which you're supposed to do. But my point is you

456
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Speaker 9: all didn't make any plays in the air either, So

457
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Speaker 9: I mean outside of a cosmetic interception at the end

458
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 9: of the game, you got be handedly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah on defense off dude's fingertips that contributed to that.

460
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Speaker 2: We don't have a show tomorrow or Thursday, James, So

461
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Speaker 2: I know this question would inevitably pop up, and just

462
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Speaker 2: I don't want to get full into the playoff scenarios

463
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Speaker 2: just yet, but the Colts could be eliminated before they

464
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Speaker 2: kick off on Sunday. Yes, the Texans play the Chargers

465
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Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon. If the Chargers lose to the Texans, if

466
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Speaker 2: the Texans win, then that would officially eliminate the Colts

467
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Speaker 2: from the playoffs. Now, obviously, by that point, whatever that

468
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: is Saturday at seven pm, you will have done all

469
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Speaker 2: your prep for Jacksonville this week. You play at one

470
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Speaker 2: o'clock on Sunday. I think it would be hard to

471
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, yank the wheel per

472
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Speaker 2: se and you know, have a massive one and shifting

473
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Speaker 2: what you're going to do plan wise. I still remain

474
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Speaker 2: under the impression that it will be Philip Rivers as

475
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Speaker 2: the starter and Riley Leonard as the backup on Sunday

476
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Speaker 2: and part of me thinks that'll be the case again

477
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Speaker 2: in week eighteen. Maybe if you were eliminated, you'd flip

478
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Speaker 2: flop that. But anything I guess changed for you at all.

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Speaker 2: Whether you want to go Rivers, Leonard or the inevitable

480
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, questions that will come.

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Speaker 9: Well, let's start with the end there. Anthony Richardson, I

482
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Speaker 9: would highly doubt plays again this year, just given the

483
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Speaker 9: severity of the eye injury and the limitations that he

484
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Speaker 9: has visually. Again, I don't know what those limitations exactly

485
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Speaker 9: are because I'm not in his body and seeing through

486
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Speaker 9: his eyes, but from what I understand what I've gathered,

487
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Speaker 9: it is perhaps more significant than I initially thought, or others,

488
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Speaker 9: you know, from the outside looking in might have initially thought.

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Speaker 9: So let's just rule him out for that reason, and

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Speaker 9: then looking at the decision between Riley Leonard or Philip Rivers,

491
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Speaker 9: I just think that until they're mathematically eliminated, you're not

492
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Speaker 9: gonna get a real pushback from Shane on the idea

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Speaker 9: of starting Philip. And quite honestly, after Philip played, I

494
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Speaker 9: thought as well as he did yesterday, I don't feel

495
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Speaker 9: as worried about it as I did after the Seattle game.

496
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Speaker 9: After the Seattle game, I think there was an argument

497
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Speaker 9: you could make like, Okay, is this enough? Is this

498
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Speaker 9: all we're gonna get from the old guy? And if

499
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Speaker 9: that is the case, then Riley might be a better option.

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Speaker 9: But I thought Philip played his butt off yesterday and

501
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Speaker 9: gave this team a legitimate chance to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was dead wrong. I mean, my hand

503
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Speaker 2: is raised again with Philip Rivers and the ability to

504
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Speaker 2: push it a little bit more down the field.

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Speaker 9: Well, I fel like we both got a middle finger

506
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Speaker 9: along with the rest of the beat. When they first

507
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Speaker 9: out of the game was a first player game shot

508
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Speaker 9: down the field.

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Speaker 2: I laughed at that, honestly. And again there were a

510
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Speaker 2: couple of de balls that you know, looked like the

511
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Speaker 2: old wounded duck falling out of the sky that you

512
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Speaker 2: know didn't have. It was like, Okay, pray for the

513
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: defensive pass interference underthrow? Is that is that kind of

514
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: way you're hoping for? There on a couple of those

515
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: deep shots. But like you go back to that opening

516
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: drive and one thing that Rivers does just unbelievably well

517
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: is he gives guys chances after the catch like they

518
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Speaker 2: got into the third and I forget what it was,

519
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: maybe third and eight, and he gets it a tailor

520
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 2: right in stride. Boom, there's a bunch of yak first down.

521
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Speaker 2: Even the Josh downs ball on like the third and

522
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Speaker 2: whatever that was eleven or twelve. He just throws it

523
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Speaker 2: to the right shoulder every time, and I'm not saying right,

524
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Speaker 2: like literally his right side. Whichever shoulder is going upfield

525
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: or needs to be going upfield. He does that and

526
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Speaker 2: again it wobbles, It looks a little odd, but it

527
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Speaker 2: as long as it gets there somewhat on time. It

528
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Speaker 2: allows guys the opportunity to make a play. And I'll

529
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Speaker 2: go back to the third and goal touchdown to Pierce.

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Speaker 2: I mean, James, that was a what third and goal

531
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Speaker 2: from the sixteen? That is a give up play. You

532
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: rarely see teams take end zone shots on third and

533
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Speaker 2: goal from the sixteen, Like that's a risky play. And

534
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Speaker 2: yet the anticipation to throw that ball well before Alec

535
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Speaker 2: Peerce is even making his break. And then again, if

536
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Speaker 2: you go back, there's some unbelievable still shots of the

537
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Speaker 2: catch and Pierce of course just being Pierce, and as

538
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Speaker 2: if I feel like I've been a broken record all

539
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Speaker 2: year long. He continues to add to his payday that's

540
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Speaker 2: coming this offseason.

541
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we were talking about it after the game, Kevin,

542
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Speaker 9: who are the winners of last night? And I think

543
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Speaker 9: me and Stephen Holder were joking about how the winners

544
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Speaker 9: were the forty nine ers and Alec Peerson his.

545
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Speaker 2: Agent, Oh easily easily. Yeah, like after that Slim Pickens, Yes, yeah,

546
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Speaker 2: well said I'll give them to Blake groupie. But that's

547
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Speaker 2: that's probably where I will stop. But like those throws

548
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Speaker 2: from Rivers early in the game, and you know, again,

549
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: it's just kind of some second level stuff, and they

550
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Speaker 2: brought tempo. I thought ESPN did a wonderful job of

551
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Speaker 2: Buck and Aikman silencing themselves when Rivers was at the

552
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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and he he sounded like homeboy here

553
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: at the ISO. Jack is it? Everly? Is this our

554
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: dude here at Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra. I mean, he was

555
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: a maestro at the line. Just it was tempo to

556
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Speaker 2: get Rivers into twenty five seconds of chess matches, That's

557
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: what it was. It wasn't tempo to like, you know,

558
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: necessarily keep a personnel grouping on the field. Maybe that

559
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: had a little bit to do with it. It was

560
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Speaker 2: more of just let's let that wizard operate at the

561
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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Yeah, and he was able to do that. So,

562
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Speaker 2: you know, again, from an offensive game plan standpoint, the

563
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: cults were bullish. They were adamant, we're gonna we feel

564
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Speaker 2: like we can do more stuff. We feel like we

565
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Speaker 2: can hit a couple more chunks. I was very skeptical

566
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Speaker 2: and they did that. Now, when you get into the

567
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: other the Shane Stikeen evaluation marks, it's not as glowing.

568
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Speaker 2: But James I did not think the offense could produce

569
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Speaker 2: like that, especially if you had have told me before

570
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Speaker 2: the night Jonathan Taylor's gonna have a season low two

571
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: point nine yards per kerry and you're gonna lose your

572
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Speaker 2: starting center on the second snap of the game. I

573
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 2: mean you were down your left tackle, your center, your

574
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Speaker 2: right tackle. Taylor has his least efficient night of the year,

575
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Speaker 2: and you score twenty seven. Yeah. I had to go

576
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Speaker 2: back and look, Kevin.

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Speaker 9: Twenty seven points were their most in a game since

578
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Speaker 9: their last win back in Berlin.

579
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Speaker 2: So well, hell, it's probably the most in regulation.

580
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Speaker 7: Was it?

581
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Speaker 2: Did they get higher than that? And even regulation.

582
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Speaker 9: It's a good point. I didn't go back in that

583
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Speaker 9: that far. I was trying to, you know, keep it

584
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Speaker 9: short and sweet there, you know, the late night writing,

585
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 9: but point being, yeah, that's enough to win that game,

586
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 9: and defensively, you just failed to show up. And I

587
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 9: talking asire Franklin talking into Forest Buckner. I actually thought

588
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 9: the Forest buck Ner summed everything up in about seven

589
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 9: words yesterday I used it in my story. I'm gonna

590
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 9: pull it up here. And he was asked how frustrating

591
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 9: is this loss? And his response in full was it's

592
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 9: the worst because it's the latest. And you never hear

593
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Speaker 9: Buckner be that Kurt or that short with any answer.

594
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 9: But you could tell he was seething at the idea

595
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 9: of having another collapse, and obviously after last night, having

596
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Speaker 9: it happen at the hands of a defense that might

597
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 9: as well have stayed at home.

598
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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, a horrific defensive effort. I think I want

599
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: to play this Philip Rivers audio here because and this

600
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: has largely been the conversation James, at least for myself

601
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: and I think for the show in general over the

602
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: last ten days of like, you have two different movies

603
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: we're watching here, Rivers movie is incredible, and again it

604
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: added scenes last night that I didn't think were possible.

605
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: You know, It's funny Troy Aikman gave him the Himmy

606
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Speaker 2: award before the game he started last night on Monday

607
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: Night Countdown, and Rivers joked with him. He goes, I

608
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: gotta be the first dude that threw for one hundred

609
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: and twenty yards and loss and get an award for that, and.

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Speaker 9: We're treating him like he was again a senior citizen

611
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Speaker 9: at the old folks homes.

612
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Speaker 2: See, Okay, he won bingo, right, And that's where, like,

613
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Speaker 2: the Rivers thing is cute, it's fun to watch and

614
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: it's really cool, but you also have the other movie

615
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: that's like, holy bleep, they've lost five in a row.

616
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Speaker 2: You know how many events Lucas Oil Stadium was hosted

617
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: since the last time the Colts hosted a home playoff game,

618
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: and that will continue to happen here.

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Speaker 9: Who is that listener who said the Hoosias are going

620
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Speaker 9: to have the last one of the two teams in

621
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Speaker 9: Lucas Oil Stadium.

622
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: Right, which very well could happen if the Colts don't

623
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: win here on Sunday against Jacksonville in the home finale.

624
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: It's that's where I think it's like, you're just kind

625
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: of torn in the day after a game of you

626
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: want to acknowledge Rivers, but also this franchise is now

627
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: teetering on the biggest collapse the NFL has seen in years.

628
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: You said it to me during the break, James, how

629
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Speaker 2: many teams since the NFL merged in nineteen seventy have

630
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: had a collapse like this? Five?

631
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Speaker 9: And so the Colts will be the sixth team to

632
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 9: start seven to one and miss the playoffs. That is

633
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 9: six teams over the last fifty five years. Come on, man, Like,

634
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 9: when I put it like that, I'm like, WHOA, there

635
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 9: might need to be some changes.

636
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, it's five straight losses, it's six of seven,

637
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: the AFC South elimination with two weeks left and last

638
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: year with three weeks left. That's not at me either,

639
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: like you're not in a division with Mahomes or Allen

640
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: or you know, healthy Lamar Jackson. I mean, you're in

641
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: the AFC South, and yet I know this year obviously

642
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: it's been a better division, but it's not like Houston

643
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: won whatever fourteen games last year and you were eliminated

644
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: with three weeks to go, I mean three weeks to go.

645
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: That's a long time in the NFL, and you're out

646
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: of there. And now this week, with two weeks this year,

647
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: with two games ago, you're also out of out of there.

648
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: Like that to me would resonate a whole whole lot. Caleb,

649
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: it's hit up some on the phone line here, so

650
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: we got Courtney. Is that right? Let's lead off here

651
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Speaker 2: with Courtney on this Tuesday morning. What's up Courtney? Hey,

652
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: what's happening?

653
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: I got my brother in here, Sorr with me.

654
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: What's up Courtney's brother?

655
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: What's going on?

656
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 7: Man? Uh?

657
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? I watched well, I watched that game, bro, and

658
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: that was That defense was horrific. Zire Franklin just really

659
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: disappointed me to that deserve. I don't know if that

660
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: that deserves. He needs to leave because he spends too

661
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: much on the podcast, especially with Jeff t on five

662
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: to twenty. He needs to get off that and focus

663
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: on his game and we need a better pass rush.

664
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: Quee Pay is not showing up. I don't know what's

665
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 3: going on with him, and it was just a whole

666
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: overall disaster.

667
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 10: Man.

668
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm so very disappointed, especially when Phil Rivers had played

669
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: his butt off the night. He really impressed me last night,

670
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: Like he really did a good job for all of that.

671
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: For him to go out there and put up that

672
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: many points, to put out that good performance for the defense,

673
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: just squad that off. It's embarrassing, man, Like, there's got

674
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: to be some changes. They need to be some changes.

675
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Thank you Courtney for the call. Appreciated, best to you

676
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: and your brother. Yeah, the linebacker play awful last night.

677
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: Jermaine Pratt early on, certainly, But do you remember what

678
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: you asked me yesterday?

679
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 9: What was I worried about any of those guys being

680
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 9: against George Kittle or Christian McCaffrey in space They physically

681
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 9: can't do it.

682
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: It was the first play was that where Kittle kind

683
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: of went over Pratt and made a play Like Pratt

684
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: kind of lost it down the field. Kittle made that play. Yeah,

685
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: it just you know, I think we had questions about

686
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: the linebacker position entering the year, and we continue to

687
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: have those questions. It was probably the group you had

688
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: the most questions about entering the year. And that's why

689
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: I go back to the front seven. I mean, you

690
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: are healthy there. You have invested so much I mean

691
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: you were to talk first second round picks, whether it's

692
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: Quitty Pay, whether it's lowed To lat To, whether it's

693
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: Taekwon Lewis, whether it's the Forrest Buckner. You obviously traded

694
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: a first round pick also for Buckner. You know, j

695
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: T twomlo out. You know, this year has been a

696
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: very quiet I think the thought there with him was

697
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: he was such a decorated college player, he could come

698
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: in here and maybe impact a little bit earlier.

699
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 8: Yeah.

700
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: Same with Lat two, like Lot two and uh Tomala,

701
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: we're not drafted as projects. They were very complished collegian players. Yeah,

702
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: and the thought there was they could give you a

703
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: little bit more Lyon's supposed to be dude, you know,

704
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: banking on Samson Ebacom coming off the torn Achilles was

705
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: very wishful thinking. And if you just look, I don't

706
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: have it in front of me, James, but I believe

707
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: it's a top five money defense in the NFL. Like

708
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: even if you don't consider the draft picks, which you know,

709
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: if you compared the starting eleven from whatever San Francisco

710
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: for example, to Indy, it's totally different from where they're

711
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: at from a health standpoint, and I'm gonna point back

712
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: to that front seven because I get it. You're without

713
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: Javeri's Ward, You're without Sauce Gardner. You're gonna have some

714
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: issues there. But to now Christian McCaffrey have a night

715
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: that he really hasn't had all year running the football,

716
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: let alone one quarterback head in thirty four pass attempts

717
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: just horrific from the defense.

718
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 9: I will say this to Courtney's point and again shout

719
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 9: out to you for the call. It is a bad

720
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 9: look when one of your team captains is on a

721
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 9: podcast on a weekly basis talking trash about other teams

722
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 9: and recapping the trash talk you had with those guys

723
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 9: on the field and what you're going to do to

724
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 9: them and how you're how you should be viewed or

725
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 9: feared or whatever respected and you're still losing. That's not

726
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 9: a good look. And I do wonder if that is

727
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 9: something that rubs other people the wrong way within the organization,

728
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 9: because like here is incredible story seventh round pick. I

729
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 9: think it does the way all pro all that, but yeah,

730
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 9: I can't imagine that after you, for example, last week,

731
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 9: you all lose to the Seattle Seahawks and you go

732
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 9: on to some podcast and you're talking about trash talking

733
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 9: some offensive linemen on the Seattle Seahawks, and people are

734
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 9: probably thinking you or thinking of you as someone who's

735
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 9: not serious because you've lost four straight games, and then

736
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 9: you go out there and get embarrassed on national television

737
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 9: and you lose your fifth straight game. So yeah, I

738
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of like splintering things that are

739
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 9: going on with this team. And at some point you

740
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 9: got to look at these guys. And I forgot who

741
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 9: said it first. It might have been you or somebody

742
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 9: else on the beat that I was talking to about this, Kevin,

743
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 9: this corps of players when you look at the Forest

744
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 9: Buck news, Iar Franklin, Kennymore, Quentin Nelson, whoever else, all

745
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 9: these people. I am not saying get rid of Quentin Nelson,

746
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 9: you know, Hall of Famer, But my point is they

747
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 9: don't win these games. They don't win big games. So

748
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 9: at some point you got to be looking at all, right,

749
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 9: if it ain't with this group, then we got to

750
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 9: figure out how to reload and move on and do

751
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 9: something different, Because in my mind, I'm thinking to myself,

752
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 9: if you try to convince people to run this back

753
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 9: next year, and everyone's a year older and Daniel Jones

754
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 9: is coming off of torn Achilles. What the heck are

755
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 9: you actually selling people well?

756
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: And also the justification that I've heard to whatever not

757
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: making changes is you can't give a new GM back

758
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: to back drafts without first round picks. And it's like,

759
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: in what way, shape or form is that a ringing

760
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: endorsement on Chris Ballard? Like it kind of goes back

761
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: to the combine conversation we had with Ballard of like,

762
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: why do you feel like you're getting a ninth year?

763
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: Why do you feel like you haven't gotten done? And

764
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: those answers are not met with like this strong conviction

765
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: no or this like oh wow, that's a really key

766
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: important building piece that you know what, maybe it might

767
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: turn out in a positive direction. Like again, if we

768
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: have this conversation on August twenty third, and you told me, hey,

769
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: the cold season's going to play out, they'll be eliminated

770
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: from the AFC South with two games to go, they

771
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: potentially could have their playoff hopes over by the time

772
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: they kick off on Sunday, They'll have the biggest collapse

773
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: you just pointed out since whatever nineteen seventy They don't

774
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: have their two first round picks for the next two years.

775
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: They're quarterbacks. Situation I think might be okay, but then again,

776
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: the dude can't stay healthy, the dude being Daniel Jones,

777
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: right exactly, Yeah, right, Yeah, that's probably a very important

778
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: clarification by you, and yet you get a tenth crack

779
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: at it. But that's tough. That to me just makes

780
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: no sense. But you know, again with Carli Ers Gordon,

781
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: there is just an unknown element to it, and I

782
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: think there's a little bit of like nervous energy of

783
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: for two months, James, was it going so well that

784
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: you got away from this potential reality and now you

785
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: don't want to seriously entertain it, you know, And now

786
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: it's a very scared tactic to probably be a business leader.

787
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: But that is a thought that has crossed my mind.

788
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, when you green light the sauce

789
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: Gardener trade, you're saying this is our group and again

790
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: the Sauce Gardner trade. To go back to it, not

791
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: only did you say we believe in sauce Gardner as

792
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: a player, of course, but you also said we believe

793
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: in the quarterback position unquestionably, and the direction that it's

794
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: going and we believe in the powers at B I E.

795
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: R GM and our head. Like you said all of

796
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: that with the Gardner. You can look at the Gardener

797
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: trade and say, hey, by trading two first round picks

798
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: and Ady Mitchell, you're trading what three, let's call it

799
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: four players. Knowing Ballard he probably would have traded back

800
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: with one of those first round picks. You basically traded

801
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: four top fifty players in a draft for one. Like,

802
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 2: if you want to put the trade up on a whiteboard,

803
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: what did you bring in? What's leaving? But you also

804
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: said two massive other things in that move. You said

805
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones is the side of the building guy.

806
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: He can stay healthy, his quality of play is great

807
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: over the course of four months of an NFL season.

808
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: All of that and then the Ballad and Ssiching thing

809
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: is what you said. Now fast forward here six weeks later,

810
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback questions obviously are there, and you're in the

811
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 2: midst of the biggest collapse and last night's collapse. James

812
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: was so rooted in Ballard's building, the defensive side of

813
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: the ball, the front seven not showing up in a

814
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: primetime game. That's route I mean that's been his baby. Again.

815
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: Look at the investments. Look at the investments on the

816
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, particularly in the front seven.

817
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: And if I were Carl ras Gordon, that would make

818
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: me pause long and hard today looking in the.

819
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 9: Mirror, absolutely, and I can't really disagree with any points

820
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 9: that you just made. The other thing, Kevin, when I

821
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 9: think about the Sauce trade, that was after the worst

822
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 9: game of the year that they had up until that point,

823
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 9: I believe Daniel might have had five turnovers if I

824
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 9: remember correctly, was five turnovers for Daniel, I think six

825
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 9: for the team and that loss in Pittsburgh. And I

826
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 9: remember riding after that game. And I'm not saying I'm

827
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 9: some genius because many of those listening probably.

828
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: Said the same thing.

829
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 9: When you made the Sauce trade right after that, you

830
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 9: basically gave up your exit ramp if you were still

831
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 9: gonna play the whole Let's just see how this goes.

832
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 9: Types of thing you said after his worst.

833
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Game of the year.

834
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 9: We believe in this, dude, and we believe that's that's

835
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 9: an anomaly, that's just a one off. And perhaps maybe

836
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 9: it was to a degree like we couldn't have seen

837
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 9: the future and said, oh, it's gots gonna get hurt

838
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 9: and play with the fractured leg and teres Achilles all that.

839
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 9: But even then he was already he was gonna taper off.

840
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 9: He started taper off, and you were like, Nope, full

841
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 9: steam ahead. This is our group. We got this, which

842
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 9: at the time I was with it. Hey, you got

843
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 9: a window that's open. The AFC looks wounded this year.

844
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 9: It is wounded this year without Patrick Mahomes obviously, so

845
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 9: here's your shot. But this is a results based business,

846
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 9: and the results that you have now might change the

847
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 9: calculation and what you do moving forward with this regime,

848
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 9: this group, because it is very hard to sell from

849
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 9: a player perspective, because these dudes don't win. From a

850
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 9: coach perspective, I don't know how many coaches stay around

851
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 9: after their first three years without making the playoffs. Granted again,

852
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 9: he's also had a lot of things going on. I

853
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 9: want to dismiss that. And also, Chris Ballard, you're in

854
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 9: year what is this nine? And it hasn't been fruitful.

855
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: We'll get to a few more phone calls here coming

856
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: up eight o'clock hour. Do you want to get to

857
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more audio from last night. As we

858
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: continue to recap this, by the way, it's a ball

859
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: me Tuesday out there. Hopefully this will create some smooth

860
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: traveling for people this week here in what looks to

861
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: be a quite the unusual Christmas weather that we're about

862
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: to have. I think one more thing to add, kind

863
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: of James to that point, and it's something I mentioned

864
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: to lead off the show, and I'll reiterate it here again.

865
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Carl Orse Gordon, we don't know deep down, like we

866
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: don't know there is a little past precedent obviously with

867
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: her at this level. But one thing we do know

868
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: about father. One of the things that frustrated him the

869
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: most was when the opportunities and again they haven't been

870
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: many lately, certainly three years since you were on Monday

871
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: Night football, when the opportunities for his team to play

872
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: in primetime showed up and they got embarrassed. That bothered

873
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: him endlessly. And obviously there are elements to the daughters

874
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: that they want to do differently than their father, but

875
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: there are also a lot of core tenants that he

876
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: has that they agree with. And I am curious watching

877
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 2: that game unfold, particularly the defensive side of the ball

878
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: and again that front seven. Do they have the same

879
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: level of bothersome I guess, for lack of a better term,

880
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: that I know their father would have watching all of

881
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: that unfold. And again, even if you don't play the

882
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: embarrassment card necessarily as much as Jim would have. What

883
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: about financially, I mean, we just watched this entire city

884
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: absolutely come to life with the Pacers playoff run. And

885
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 2: those home environments, James, that you were in many times

886
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: were absolutely electric, and not just from the financial pockets

887
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: for the Simons in getting home game after home game

888
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: after home game, but like the good will of people

889
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 2: experiencing that, and now here you are eleven years removed

890
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: from the last time we've walked into Lucas Soil Stadium

891
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: in a meaningful January game. Like, even if you can't

892
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: quantify the good will that that does for your fan base,

893
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: what about financially getting a home play? I mean, if

894
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: anybody I get why people are obsessed with wanting to

895
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: see their team in primetime, Like if you watched ESPN

896
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: from six o'clock on last night, it is a walking

897
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: billboard for your city, for your franchise. They gave more

898
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: love to the Colts than they did the forty nine

899
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: Ers pre game by far, like it is such an

900
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: unbelievable advertisement for your city, for your franchise, et cetera,

901
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: et cetera, and then with tons of red in your building,

902
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: you get dog walked by a team that had not

903
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: been doing that offensively all year long. Again, how if

904
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 2: this was a teetering decision for Carli ERSA Gordon, does

905
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: that impact it at all? There's part of you that says,

906
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think a week sixteen game and year

907
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: nine of a regime should have great impact. But this

908
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: has come from someone that thought Chris Bald shouldn't have

909
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: gote a year nine either. So you know, maybe I'm

910
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: not the best person to ask much more on this.

911
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: We'll get into it here in the eight o'clock hour

912
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: coming up, Kevin Bow and James Boyd Caleb Zuber on

913
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: a Tuesday. Only thing worse than the Colts defense last

914
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: night is yours truly attempting to wrap a Christmas present.

915
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Caleb Zuber, thank you for that intro. I thought that

916
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: Rivers quote certainly hit home pretty accurately. Right there. You

917
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: got two different movies right now. One's a fun Hallmark movie,

918
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: and the other one is typical with what we're used

919
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: to from present day Indianapolis Colts, certainly in the Chris

920
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: Ballard era. Good Tuesday morning to you. It's ball me.

921
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 2: If you haven't been outside, you'll go shirts. You might

922
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: play golf on Christmas with what this weather looks like.

923
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, James Boyd and Caleb Zuber again filling in

924
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: for Mark diked in plenty to get to here as

925
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: we dissect last night forty eight twenty seven, the final

926
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: score there, James Boyd one quarterback hit on thirty four

927
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 2: pass attempts for brock Purty. They didn't encounter their first

928
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: third down San Francisco until the third drive of the game,

929
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: and that was because of a drop. And Christian McCaffrey

930
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 2: had what the two games over four yards per carry

931
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: all year, maybe it was three, and he was nearly

932
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: six yards per carry last night. Just an utterly horrific

933
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: defensive effort on a night that my hand is raised

934
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: because Philip Rivers, you showed me something that I did

935
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: that you had.

936
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 9: So you told me that one of the things I'll

937
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 9: have to learn when I become a father someday is

938
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 9: about the blowouts when you have the young child you're

939
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 9: burping them or whatever and get that sound, a little

940
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 9: rumble in the stomach, and boy, the pamper is decimated.

941
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 9: I say that because the way Zire Franklin described yesterday's

942
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 9: game was with the S word. It was a bleepy day.

943
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 9: And I was thinking to myself, that's true. That might

944
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 9: have been a newborn blowout right there, because this is

945
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 9: unacceptable for this group. And I don't really know how

946
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 9: you square that. And the sin I'll kind of paint

947
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 9: for you all is you have Philip Rivers, one of

948
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 9: the last guys out of the locker room, and he's

949
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 9: putting on his clothes and looks like he can go

950
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 9: drive a truck after the game or something, and he's

951
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 9: pulling this crow, and you know, everyone's going up to

952
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 9: him and give him some dap and hey, thank you

953
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 9: for you know what you're doing, and this and that,

954
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 9: and just that scene of him sitting in his locker

955
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 9: by himself and he's kind of like staring off, probably

956
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 9: thinking about like all the million things that could have

957
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 9: gone a different way in the game, or how his

958
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 9: career has kind of taken this crazy turn near the end,

959
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 9: of it, and it may not be for something not

960
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 9: to say that. Those are his words, but in my mind,

961
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 9: I'm thinking to myself, I know he will be grateful,

962
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 9: and he said that, you know, when loser draw I

963
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 9: came back, I'll live with the results. But boy, it's

964
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 9: got a way on him to know, like man, I

965
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 9: might be playing pretty good football right now and it

966
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 9: might not even matter because we can't win a game.

967
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 9: And that's one of the things he kept saying repeatedly

968
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 9: after last night starts.

969
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: We have to win a game, not we gotta go

970
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: on a run.

971
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 9: We gotta you know, prove a doubter is wrong, we

972
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 9: gotta shock the world.

973
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 2: It was we have to.

974
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 9: Win a single game, which the then of that was

975
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 9: just so jarring to me.

976
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and James, one week after your blueprint around Rivers

977
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: couldn't have been more flawless. It was the exact opposite

978
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: last night. The defense an absolute abomination. And then I

979
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: thought the Amir Abdullah fumble on the kick return it

980
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: changed everything. I don't know why, but it felt like

981
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: it was like a ten to fourteen point turnover. It

982
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: just well, you know.

983
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 9: Why, this is why I think you felt like that

984
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 9: to me, personally, so you turn the ball over there.

985
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: So it's seven to seven to set at all off.

986
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 9: Return a mere Abdullah, who was great last week, by

987
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 9: the way, has the turnover the fumble he lost fumble,

988
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 9: he laune the.

989
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great play. That happens.

990
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 9: They go and score to go up fourteen to seven,

991
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 9: and even though the Colts came back and matched at

992
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 9: fourteen fourteen, in the back of my mind I was thinking,

993
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 9: oh boy, this is if it becomes a shootout, a

994
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 9: bad bad turnover.

995
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: Because they got the ball come out of the half.

996
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 9: So even if you had the first half right kind

997
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 9: of unscathed, after that you're like, okay, we get the

998
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 9: ball first to start the second half, we can go

999
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 9: to That did not happen. They got the ball to

1000
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 9: start second half and they went down to score again.

1001
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: Well, the thought is from Shane Styke, and I know

1002
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: a lot of people disagree on this. The thought with

1003
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: him is right now we need to play from ahead. Yeah,

1004
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 2: blame him for that, so we're gonna kick the ball. Yeah,

1005
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: but we got to play from ahead, and for that

1006
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: early in the game, for you to then be playing

1007
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: from behind, it just forces so much pressure elsewhere and

1008
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: like inevitably this offense is not going to be flawless,

1009
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: flawless for forty eight or for sixty minutes. Clearly we

1010
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: saw that. And you know Jonathan Taylor having his least

1011
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: efficient rushing night of the season. Obviously you're down several

1012
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: key offensive linemen right now. That is contributing to it.

1013
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: You know, a couple of other things for me defensively

1014
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: that I thought define the night and would be so

1015
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: bothersome right now and evaluating the defensive effort from last night, James,

1016
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: you go into halftime again, you've gotten your ass kicked

1017
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: in the first half. Well, what was the score half time?

1018
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Twenty four to seventeen twenty four? You're given up? Yes,

1019
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: I believe, so okay, so twenty four points you give

1020
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: up in the first half. Kittle is having a career

1021
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: night against you, and the first play the second half

1022
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: is right back to Kittle for a huge chunk like

1023
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: to me, of all the got you know if anybody

1024
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: Kittle did it to you on what the first play

1025
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: of the game or the second play of the game

1026
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: when he goes over Jermaine Pratt for that catch. And

1027
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: then he comes out at halftime and he makes that play,

1028
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: and then you get them into a third and goal

1029
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: from like the nine later on in the second half,

1030
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: And of all the coverage, bust, of all the breakdowns,

1031
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna have the breakdowns, not for Brian Robinson to

1032
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: get open or Jake Tungus to get open, or Kyle

1033
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 2: Uscheck to get open, or Juwan Jennings or Sky Moore.

1034
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: The breakdown is to allow Christian McCaffrey to strut into

1035
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 2: the end zone like those two plays, second half plays,

1036
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: after they have whipped you, yeah, for the first thirty

1037
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: minutes they come out, they throw it to their star

1038
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: tight end. He makes a big play in the first

1039
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: play the second half, just so fitting. And then the

1040
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: third and goal to Christian McCaffrey on a just a

1041
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: total breakdown. Not McCaffrey breaking dude's ankles with a hell

1042
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: of a play, just walks right in the end zone

1043
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 2: to really, you know, I get the cultid to drive

1044
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: there at the end until the Rivers picked six. But

1045
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: I thought that was a dagger.

1046
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 9: And this is where I need Caleb to chime in again,

1047
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 9: because they scored twice on that possession. Yeah, man, it's

1048
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 9: it's unbelievable. Kyle Shanahan was smiling the whole game because

1049
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 9: of how easy it was, and there's no greater example.

1050
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 9: Then on second in goal, they throw to Jake Tungus

1051
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 9: in the back of the end zone and they.

1052
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: Rule it incomplete.

1053
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 10: It was a great play by Purdy by the way,

1054
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 10: like he was rolling to his right, so great that yes,

1055
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 10: and he does it and they initially rule it incomplete,

1056
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 10: and then they show the replay on the broadcast and

1057
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 10: it's like, hold on, at there's turf pellets flying up,

1058
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 10: like I think he got his other foot down. And

1059
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 10: San Francisco did not complain to the refs. They just

1060
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 10: got back in the huddle and they're like, you know what,

1061
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 10: it's third and goal from the ten or twelve or whatever,

1062
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 10: and we're just gonna go score because it's that easy

1063
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 10: right now, No no problem, We'll just throw it. I

1064
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 10: think dud was McCaffrey the next play. It's that's how

1065
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 10: easy it was.

1066
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: Last night. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal near sixty four

1067
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: yard or touchdown field goal, touchdown first eight drive to

1068
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers last night. Two sides

1069
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: of a movie. If you don't mind, Caleb, let's Cue

1070
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: this up from Philip Rivers post game last night, kind

1071
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: of an expansion on the clip you heard right there

1072
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: in the intro.

1073
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know that, you know, from a personal standpoint,

1074
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 8: it will be short lived. You know, it'll be over

1075
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 8: and hurry, which I told yall from beginnea. I'm gonna

1076
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 8: I will be able to live with the results whatever

1077
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 8: they are. And that necessarily mean I'm I'm okay with

1078
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 8: them and I don't care you know about them. So yeah, no,

1079
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 8: it is this week felt like a regular in week mode.

1080
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 8: It felt a little bit like I've been here a

1081
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 8: while in terms of the preparation and the flow during

1082
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 8: the week. And you know, again it's been uh it's

1083
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 8: I'm torn of how to express it, because it's been

1084
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 8: a blast. It's been a blast to prepare and to

1085
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 8: go stick and get ready and go out there and

1086
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 8: warm up and do all that with these guys again.

1087
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: But again, the name of the game is not you know,

1088
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: go have a good time. It's helped find a way

1089
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: to lead your team to win.

1090
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 8: And we've come up short here these first two.

1091
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: But uh, we've been I've been a part of.

1092
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 8: Less percentage chances of getting in and got in before,

1093
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 8: so you'll you'll certainly won't hear me losing hope here

1094
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 8: as we prepare next week.

1095
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need another hour before we break down a

1096
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: playoff scenario. I can't. I can't. That's what makes you

1097
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: and Philip Rivers different. Man. I can't go there just yet.

1098
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: Philip can't give up hope. Now, this from Connor. Half

1099
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: the game last night was enjoyable to watch with all

1100
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: the talk by Philip Rivers pre snap, but the other

1101
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: half was like watching the San Francisco forty nine ers

1102
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: have a walkthrough pretty much. I think Connor just summed

1103
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: up the night. I could sign off right now and

1104
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: just repeat that here for the next hour and forty.

1105
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 9: I'm trying to think of moments where they actually felt

1106
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 9: resistance in the game a lot too.

1107
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: Strip that's one, that's one did they didn't? That's one

1108
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: right that they didn't. A punt it in that game.

1109
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 9: What stopped them was the crossbar in the first half

1110
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 9: and when brock Party slightly over the receiver and cam

1111
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 9: Binam intercepted it.

1112
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 10: You know what's so crazy? Not punting used to be

1113
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 10: the Colts thing, that used to be our thing, and

1114
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 10: now we have someone else coming into our house and

1115
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 10: doing it to us as a fan, that's just got

1116
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 10: to make you sick.

1117
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: It makes me sick. I don't know if you guys

1118
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: felt this way late in the game, but you know,

1119
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 2: for those that went to bed, the Cults are down

1120
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: fourteen and they're driving. They have a promising drive. If

1121
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, they had two timeouts and still had

1122
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: the two mid of warning. Like in a vacuum, your

1123
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: team is still very much in the game. You score there.

1124
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: Shane Sack is not a believer in this, but some

1125
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: people say, hey, you go for two there, try to

1126
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: get the two point conversion. Maybe you cut it to six,

1127
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, if you get a stop,

1128
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: you have a touchdown drive for the win. If Blake

1129
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: group he can make the extra point. I don't know

1130
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: how you guys felt emotionally, but I thought to myself

1131
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: at that point, I'm like, there's no chance to culture

1132
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: win in this game, and like the offense had moved

1133
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: it pretty well, No Rivers ends up throwing a pick six.

1134
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of an unfortunate way to

1135
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: end a night that he certainly was much much better

1136
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: than that. But like I didn't feel any sort of

1137
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: I guess optimism at that moment. I'm like, yeah, this

1138
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: game is not. This game's gonna end in the laws.

1139
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: I don't know necessarily how it's going to look, but

1140
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: there's no way the Colts A score the touchdown, B

1141
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: get the stop, and then C score the next touchdown,

1142
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: which in reality, I mean, you're down fourteen. You got

1143
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: three chances to stop the clock. Like, it's not that

1144
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: crazy of an idea.

1145
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 9: It is when you have a defense like that, And

1146
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 9: that's the point I think you're trying to make four

1147
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 9: hundred and forty yards. That was the most a couple.

1148
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: With, Like it's so much pressure that you continue to

1149
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: putting the offense like the offense is going to crack

1150
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: at some point.

1151
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're asking the way I looked at it, and

1152
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 9: I felt like this really early on in the first half.

1153
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 9: It was probably right after the Mere Abdula fumble and

1154
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 9: they came down and scored a touchdown to making fourteen

1155
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 9: fourteen after that and like, okay, well you responded, well,

1156
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 9: but how well can you hold serve if the other

1157
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 9: side is smashing the ball to Like there's Serena Williams, like, I.

1158
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: Mean, how many times.

1159
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 9: Can you realistically any team, I think we'll kind of

1160
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 9: have it hard if you got to go down there

1161
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 9: and score a touchdown every single time because you know

1162
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 9: your defense can't hold water or is the forest Buckton

1163
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 9: said can't stop a nosebleed. So that was very telling

1164
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 9: to me. And again just another example of this team

1165
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 9: folding in a big, big moment. I'm trying to think

1166
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 9: of the marquee wins in the Shan Steiken era the

1167
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 9: last three years, and.

1168
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: What are they at this point in the year.

1169
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 9: He's had big wins. I don't want to dismiss laving

1170
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 9: this earlier. This year, you've had some key wins over

1171
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 9: good teams.

1172
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: No, but I'd argue one of the biggest constants is

1173
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: awful December January loss. That's what I mean that you

1174
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: have to have. And again, this is a different type

1175
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: of thing like losing to Jake Browning, losing to Taylor Heineke,

1176
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: losing to Drew Locke, that's in a different bucket. Last

1177
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: night for me, he was in your own building, prime time,

1178
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: first time in three years. You know, rock party is

1179
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: certainly not those quarterbacks, but just to get your ass

1180
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: royally kicked in the other facets of the game. And again,

1181
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: this is where I think Stiken has some real issues

1182
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: as a head coach, James, he has to be. Can

1183
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: you imagine how involved he has to be offensively right

1184
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: now with rivers? Yeah? How is there enough time in

1185
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: the day to manage the rest of the operation, whether

1186
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: that is defensively, whether that is like, there's so much

1187
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: on his plate as the head coach and the playgoff.

1188
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: And again, he has accepted this, he has wanted this,

1189
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: And look, there are a lot of coaches around the league.

1190
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: San Francisco's got one of them that puts a lot

1191
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: on the plate. So I don't know. Maybe this is

1192
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: a Robert Sala Louannarrimo thing, but to me, it's the

1193
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: inability for your team to seize the December Jane moment. Yeah,

1194
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: that's been a three year constant, and frankly, it's probably

1195
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: been a constant before he got here, if we're gonna

1196
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: be totally honest. So maybe that's more of a ballad

1197
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: thing with the roster he's built than anything. But I

1198
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: do struggle with that with Stiking, Like, if you graded

1199
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: him as a play caller from last night, you'd give

1200
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: him close to an A if not an A if

1201
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: you grate him as a head coach, though that's a

1202
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: totally different grade. I mean, how does your defense no

1203
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: show like that? Like it's an all, Like the San

1204
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: Francisco offense is not the greatest show on turf? And

1205
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: there mostly you sure boy without their star whiteout last

1206
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: night too, or I should say they're they're number one

1207
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: wide out. So that's the stiking part of it. That

1208
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: just I just shake my head at the the head

1209
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: coaching responsibilities, not the play caller, not the offensive game planner,

1210
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: the head coach you oversee it all, and part of

1211
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: it is is your team ready to meet the moment?

1212
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: Like kurtz Signett's bunch, they meet the moment every single

1213
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: time they meet the moment. That is a key, key

1214
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: part in I think being a head coach. And from

1215
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: the onset last night, you didn't meet anything outside of

1216
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: certainly the offensive side of the ball.

1217
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 9: So here's a question for you, Because we all, I believe,

1218
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 9: picked the forty nine ers to win that game yesterday,

1219
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 9: and granted that would probably mean that we think that

1220
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 9: they're going to lose out the rest of the way,

1221
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 9: does it matter the fashion in which you do. So, like,

1222
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 9: if we're sitting here today talking about a yeah, twenty

1223
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 9: seven twenty three loss, does that change how you view

1224
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 9: this regime or this end of season collapse.

1225
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: It's a good question. It's one that I've asked myself.

1226
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: I think I've asked some of our guests here over

1227
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: the last couple weeks, like, should four weeks of a

1228
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers off the couch era have this great inflection

1229
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: point of how you evaluate him? I pardon me, thinks no.

1230
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: But again, James, I mean I wrote last year at

1231
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: the end of the season that goes Bradley and Chris

1232
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: Baler should go like also, can I say this real quick,

1233
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to be numb to like my ballad

1234
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: thought like I've thought he didn't deserve a ninth year,

1235
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: So of course I don't think he deserves a tenth

1236
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: year after watching this unfold in the manner that it has.

1237
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry, done, r up, But no, you're fine.

1238
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 9: I think when you brought up Gus Bradley, here's a

1239
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 9: scene for you, Caleb and Kevin sitting there in the

1240
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 9: press box, and you know how for those who don't

1241
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 9: attend the game, Actually, I should break this down. But

1242
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 9: where I sit in the press box, it's kind of

1243
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 9: near the elevator, and when you get off the elevator

1244
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 9: and you walk right across, this's where my seat is.

1245
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 9: So I see everyone come through the press box because

1246
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 9: they literally have to walk past me to go anywhere

1247
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 9: in there.

1248
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: And at the end of the game, when.

1249
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 9: The coaches are all coming out and getting ready to

1250
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 9: go downstairs, it's talk about Gus Bradley and his defense.

1251
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 9: The guy I see walking by me on the Victoria's

1252
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 9: side this time is Gus Bradley, who's an assistant with

1253
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 9: the forty nine ers.

1254
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 2: I thought that was such a funny moment, waved to him.

1255
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 9: Nice guy, But boy, he's probably thinking, well, you got

1256
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 9: rid of me just to have the exact same thing

1257
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 9: happen with it probably his mind a lot.

1258
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: More resources than I ever got. As I said that.

1259
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 9: Was funny, is a key and great and no, I

1260
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 9: think the question you asked funny. Caleb like, not not

1261
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 9: the funny funny, but I was like, boy, that's funny.

1262
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: Looking I think the question that you asked is an

1263
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: important one because again, like who cares? I guess, in

1264
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: my opinion is how does Carl Rosa, Gordon feel it.

1265
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: And that's why I go back to what I was

1266
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: saying a little bit earlier in the eight o'clock hour, James,

1267
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: what really pissed her dad off was embarrassment in primetime.

1268
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: How would you define last night an embarrassment in primetime? So,

1269
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: you know, because that's all that really matters at the

1270
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: end of the day is you know, does she have

1271
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: is she bothered by it? And again, the embarrassment last

1272
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: night was not that a forty four year old dude

1273
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: was tripping and falling, and you know, it was the offense,

1274
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: it was the defense, it was a healthy front se.

1275
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: It was you know, other facets of the game that

1276
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: didn't meet it. So it's again, it's one I've thought about.

1277
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: It's one that I've struggled with a bit. But it's

1278
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: probably fair to bring up, you know, and I'll coming

1279
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: into last night, I didn't get the impression that necessarily

1280
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: there would be changes, but who knows. Caleb had said

1281
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: a quick morning checked out, all right, three positives from

1282
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: you two from last night. Caleb. We're gonna put you

1283
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: on the hot seat first.

1284
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 10: Oh man, you know what I thought. The receivers Josh

1285
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 10: downs and Alec Pierce. I thought their effort was there

1286
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 10: all night, and you kind of alluded to it earlier,

1287
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 10: just kind of the way the yards after catch worked out.

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01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 10: Some of that goes to Rivers, but like they fought

1289
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 10: for first downs, they made big plays. I thought their

1290
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 10: effort was elite and I really appreciated watching that.

1291
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 2: James Blake groupie.

1292
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 9: I thought that he did a fantastic job as a

1293
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 9: kicker yesterday and quietly has put to bed one of

1294
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 9: the other issues that popped up throughout the season.

1295
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll throw Rivers in there. I mean, just

1296
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: from a positive stand point, and I don't think I'm

1297
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: grading him on the forty four year old scale. I

1298
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: think as an NFL quarterback, he played pretty good football

1299
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: for you last that was NFL good. I know the

1300
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: pick six, you know, makes it look a little bit

1301
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: different at the end there, but still he did a lot.

1302
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean, and again, guys, down your left tackle, your

1303
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: right tackle, and your center loses or leaves on the

1304
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: second slf of the game, so we get in on

1305
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: the offensive line a little bit here.

1306
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 9: So Philip was going to chase him down there for

1307
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 9: a second on the pick six and just lost a

1308
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 9: couple of wheels.

1309
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: I did see he waited for de Winters for the

1310
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: game to compliment him on that pick six. Pretty Philip

1311
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: Rivers like post game all right. Pacers a hell of

1312
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: an effort really until the fourth quarter last night, they

1313
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: actually had a notable lead on the Boston Celtics, could

1314
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: not close it out there in Boston. So they will

1315
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: have now the Bucks coming up tonight in a back

1316
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: to back. They are right around to pick them against

1317
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 2: the Bucks. So late travel last night. Rick Carlisle shot

1318
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: me text about three thirty saying, Hey, can we maybe

1319
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: postpone it so we'll have Rick Joins coming up next

1320
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: week on the show. But Pacers in Buck in action

1321
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: and they'll see the Celtics again. That's coming up on Friday.

1322
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: College basketball from yesterday Butler in Indiana both get the

1323
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: pre Christmas victories that I certainly would have loved for

1324
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 2: my team to have gotten a few days back. Butler

1325
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: all over the New Jersey Institute of Technology. I believe

1326
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: at one point the score was seventeen to nothing. Great

1327
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: balance from the Bulldogs in that one. So that's a

1328
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 2: pretty good non conference for them. The Boise State loss

1329
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 2: will be one that definitely they would have liked back.

1330
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: But all in all, it's a pretty good non conference

1331
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: here for Butler and then Indiana over Sienna. Nick Dorn

1332
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: starting to come on a little bit here for the Hoosiers.

1333
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: I know there's some big time intrigue from him and

1334
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: transfer from Elon coming off the bench. Fry you a

1335
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: little banged up in the offseason, so we'll see if

1336
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: that can translate to the Big Ten players. Now it's

1337
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: quite a long time off for Indiana before they restart

1338
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Much more on last night, We'll continue

1339
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: to take your calls, play some audio. It is the

1340
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: fan Morning Show here on a Tuesday.

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: Four down Lineman for San Francisco Rivers. Out of the gun,

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01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 1: back's the past, he's got time, he thlows up into

1343
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: the end zone.

1344
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 4: It touts down Pierce to again tux temper two tonight

1345
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 4: fred Alett Pierce did it covers sixteen yards to the house.

1346
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: Certainly one of the highlights from last night's that was

1347
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: a third and goal from the sixteen and James Boyd

1348
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: I that might be the Rivers play that I'll remember

1349
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: the most from the forty four year old experience here.

1350
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: Obviously see how the final two weeks play out. But

1351
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 2: the anticipation to throw that ball and look, that thing

1352
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: was not you know, a vortex spiral by any means.

1353
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 2: But that then got to Alec Pierce. And there's some

1354
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: great still shots of Pierce kind of you know, almost

1355
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 2: pressing the ball against the forty nine ers dB there

1356
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: to make the touchdown. Good things happen when you target

1357
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: Alec Pearce and that decision, you know that that often

1358
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: could be a give up play. Third and goal from

1359
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: the sixteen. That was big league, big lead from Philip

1360
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: Rivers right there.

1361
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 9: Just an awesome play, and again Alex Pierce catches everything.

1362
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 9: He's going to get a big bag of money.

1363
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: And he would get a stat for how many times

1364
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: he draws a flag to that too.

1365
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 9: You know what he was whooping whoever that cornerback was.

1366
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 9: I think it was number twenty eight for the forty

1367
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 9: nine ers. I believe he was filling in for an

1368
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 9: injured cornerback, and boy, Alec beat him like a drum

1369
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 9: over and over again. And I thought that again. Winners

1370
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 9: and losers last night, winners, forty nine ers, Alec Pearson

1371
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 9: his check book, losers everybody else in the Colts.

1372
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think our audience knows that I've kind

1373
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 2: of been here for a long time now, but I

1374
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: wanted to write it last night and kind of wanted

1375
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: to take away from the game like he has got

1376
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: to be a definite bringback guy. And weirdly, I think

1377
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 2: the Daniel Jones injury James has opened up potentially some

1378
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: finances to either throw to Piers or if you want

1379
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: to use that for Like, I don't think it's that

1380
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: crazy to franchise tag him.

1381
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 9: I was going to ask you that question and I

1382
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 9: we were talking about in the press box last night,

1383
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 9: and I believe that is a serious option.

1384
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: And if you're making him negotiate, you would put him

1385
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: into some big time whiteout category. But like, let's be honest, James,

1386
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: they tagged Michael Pittman initially.

1387
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you can still negotia, but it basically gives

1388
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 9: you like, hey, you're mine and you ain't going nowhere.

1389
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 9: I would not be surprised if they tagged him, and honestly,

1390
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 9: I might prefer it just to make sure he ain't

1391
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 9: going to where, because I can't think of anybody else

1392
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 9: being used with the tag Daniel Jones that goes out

1393
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 9: the windows.

1394
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 2: Some of these tears as achilles, right right, Yeah, I

1395
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: think you're on that. Caleb. Let's get back to the

1396
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 2: phone lines. Who you got for us? I know you've

1397
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: been feeling the ton so just lead us wherever you want.

1398
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're gonna go with John. He's been on hold

1399
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 10: for a long time.

1400
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: What's up John?

1401
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 11: Good morning, gentlemen. I was originally gonna call in and

1402
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 11: hammer home some points about the pass rush, and you know,

1403
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 11: we talk about this every year, and behind quarterback, it's

1404
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 11: the second most important position on the roster. You know, pressure,

1405
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 11: beach coverage, you affect even elite secondaries, breakdown at the

1406
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 11: QB has time. Pass rushers affect every drop back. It

1407
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 11: travels in big games when you you know, can have

1408
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 11: a consistent pass rush, which obviously Colts haven't had. But

1409
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 11: I want to talk a bit about the fan perspective

1410
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 11: and thinking about this time last year on the show

1411
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 11: and how you all are talking about the fan perspective

1412
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 11: and fans becoming angry and hopefully not becoming apathetic. And

1413
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 11: I was just thinking about this season overall and how

1414
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 11: special it was the first half and how keyten I

1415
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 11: was for really the most excited. I was to watch

1416
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 11: the Colts every week probably since I was in sixth grade,

1417
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 11: and it's been you know, going on seventeen years. And

1418
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 11: to experience that joy and to experience this pain now

1419
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 11: and this frustration makes me think that the next step

1420
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 11: in my fandom is this apathy. Because we have this

1421
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 11: offensive play caller who can take a guy like Philip

1422
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 11: Rivers off the street and have a game plan that

1423
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 11: can put up points where you can sustrain drives and

1424
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 11: pretty much give you everything out that you want out

1425
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 11: of your offense. You have a quarterback that can actually

1426
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 11: operate it. But yet we're still in the same position

1427
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 11: at the end of the year and it just absolutely sucks,

1428
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 11: and you think, what kind of overhaul do we need.

1429
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 11: Is Shane a guy that you can move forward with,

1430
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 11: that's a big question. But can you get an offensive

1431
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 11: mind that can work better than Thank you.

1432
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: John for the call. Appreciate it. I think I got

1433
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 2: the general gist of it, James, your pulse fandom right now. Apathy,

1434
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: frustration and injuries are an excuse. A valid excuses should

1435
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: say the river story is cute and it's covering up

1436
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: everything else where do you kind of go.

1437
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 9: I do think there is a certain level of apathy

1438
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 9: that you're gonna get after a while, because when writing

1439
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 9: my column from last night, when reading through the comments,

1440
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 9: whether it's in our YouTube chat here this morning or

1441
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 9: the text line or the comments on my stories, there

1442
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 9: are people who are saying, you know what, why did

1443
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 9: I even get my hopes up?

1444
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: Because they do this every year.

1445
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 9: And that's what is the scariest part about this franchise.

1446
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,440
Speaker 9: And I wrote it last night, A once proud franchise

1447
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 9: is now this mediocre, middling kind of afterthought in my opinion,

1448
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 9: like when do we think about the Colts in the

1449
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 9: grand scheme of the NFL landscape. It happened, I thought

1450
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 9: for better part of a month earlier this year when

1451
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 9: they started off very hot and kind of shocked the

1452
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 9: NFL world a bit, and obviously it happened again when

1453
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 9: Philip Rivers come out of retirement. On a year to

1454
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 9: year basis, man, nobody is afraid of this team anymore.

1455
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 9: Nobody fears this team anymore, nobody has faith that they're

1456
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 9: going to figure it out because they just haven't done

1457
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 9: it in so long, and those years, he continue to

1458
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 9: get further and further away and those years I'm referencing

1459
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 9: are the glory years. I mean people who bring up,

1460
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 9: you know, the Super Bowls and AFC Championship game appearances

1461
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 9: and deep playoff runs. I mean I was a kid

1462
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 9: when that stuff happened, and I do think after a while,

1463
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 9: it's hard not to become apathetic. And that is probably

1464
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 9: what the coach don't want from their fan base, and

1465
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 9: any fan base shouldn't want that because they don't care.

1466
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 9: Man Like, it's hard to sell anything.

1467
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go back to a couple comments Chris Ballard

1468
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: had at the end of the last season James, and

1469
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: he was adamant I would say, arguably probably two to

1470
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: three things out over the rest. One was, you know,

1471
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: he certainly mentioned the need to do some things differently

1472
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: from a free agency standpoint, and he did. But you know,

1473
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: he also mentioned, from a big picture point of view,

1474
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: we have got to find a way to win games

1475
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: late in the season more he was adamant about that.

1476
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: The other comment he made was in discussion about being

1477
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: close and again, you were eliminated from the AFC South

1478
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: for three weeks to go last year, and that was

1479
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: not a Texans team. That was what fourteen to three

1480
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: or anything like that. But he was very clear. And

1481
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: again the words and week after the season end make

1482
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: for juicy headlines of you know, close as losing on

1483
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: the last play of the Super Bowl, going eight to

1484
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: nine is not close. Lo, And behold, we sit here

1485
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: with two weeks left in the regular season, and I

1486
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: think there's probably a decent chance this team goes eight

1487
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: and nine. And so those two really stand out to me.

1488
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: And then if I were, you know, John, I think

1489
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: was kind of getting to this point, you know, if

1490
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: I were the Ersay daughters, and I think to myself,

1491
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: here in what two weeks will be the eleventh eleven

1492
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 2: year anniversary of a home playoff game, and James, just

1493
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: look at our state. The Pacers a game away from

1494
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 2: an NBA title, the Fever, a game away from playing

1495
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: in the WNBA finals. I you football, I you football,

1496
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: A Big Ten championship in that building. I'd say that's

1497
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: twice for sure, the number one seed here in the

1498
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 2: college football playoff. Notre Dame plays for national championship in football,

1499
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: Perdue plays for national championship in basketball. Helped Purdue made

1500
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: the Big Ten title in football few years ago. In

1501
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: that time straight if you want to you know, I

1502
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 2: you basketball as in the tail spin of all tailspins,

1503
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 2: they've won an NCAA tournament game since you last multiple

1504
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: nca tournament games, and.

1505
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 9: We put it like that, Yeah, since you.

1506
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: Last hosted a home playoff game like winning, I ain't

1507
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: think about that. Hold up that right there is the

1508
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: one that gets me the most. I mean, hell, it's

1509
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: not look at that program like, oh man, they have

1510
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 2: me anything in forever, right, I mean Lucas all the

1511
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: stains hosted a swim meet more recently than they have

1512
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: a home playoff game. Like to me, when you go

1513
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: through a list like that, it's embarrassing enough. But also

1514
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,480
Speaker 2: if I were the people in charge of running the business,

1515
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: the financial component would really bother me that And I

1516
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: get it's the NFL blah blah blah, but like having

1517
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 2: your home stadium experience a playoff game financially is huge

1518
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 2: and also just all the good will you get. I

1519
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: said this earlier in the show. You know it's a

1520
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: first time the colt it's been on Monday Night Football

1521
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: in three years. Whether you hear Joe Buck talk to

1522
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,520
Speaker 2: us yesterday on the show where you watch ESPN's programming

1523
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 2: from six o'clock until kickoff last night. It is an

1524
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: absolute visit, indeed, Dream Colts franchise, dream to see the

1525
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: amount of attention that your franchise gets when you're viewed

1526
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: as worthy of a primetime game. Yeah, and I'm talking.

1527
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: There's cam Binham on the field with Ryan Clark and

1528
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,839
Speaker 2: Marcus Spears. There's all of a sudden, Nick Cross getting

1529
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: a one minute talk about his season so far, the

1530
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: unbelievable story of Morgan the cheerleader and signing with the

1531
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 2: young boy Mark that Joe Buckan mentioned yesterday with us

1532
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 2: like the amount of just incredible exposure your franchise gets

1533
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: when they earn the right to be in these primetime games,

1534
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 2: playoff games, every want to look at it. That would

1535
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: not be lost unde either. And that's probably where I

1536
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: sit right now. It's just again, I thought chang should

1537
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: have happened last year. So for me, I'm trying not

1538
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: to be as numb to like, no, no, no, Kevin,

1539
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: you need to give the same sort of attention that

1540
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: you did this time last year because the results in

1541
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: a bottom line business are once again trending in that direction.

1542
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: But you know from the dollars and cents that would

1543
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: be really bothersome, especially when you hear a list like

1544
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: that of all of the teams in our market the matter,

1545
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 2: some clearly more than others, but all of them. You know,

1546
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: if you sat here right now and James and said,

1547
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: of all the teams we talk about on these airwaves,

1548
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 2: the two most disappointing over the last decade, you would

1549
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: have probably said, I you basketball, to your point, and

1550
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: then the second one you probably would have said is

1551
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: Colts football for sure. I mean, everybody else is above it,

1552
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: even Produe football as big of a laughing sock as

1553
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: they've been the last couple of years, Jeff Brahm had

1554
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: them at a level in the last decade that is

1555
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 2: a level the Colts would dream of of getting into

1556
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: the postseason, winning a playoff game, hosting, you know, a

1557
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 2: home playoff game, all that. How much do you think

1558
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 2: injuries are a factor.

1559
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 9: That's one where this year in particular, Yeah, if you're

1560
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 9: looking at in a vacuum and we gotta get to break.

1561
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 9: But that's one thing I definitely want to ponder on

1562
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 9: the other side of that thing.

1563
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, I don't want to ignore it either.

1564
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: Let's get to that here. Coming up on the other side.

1565
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: This is the fan Morning show here on a Tuesday.

1566
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, James Board and Caleb Zuber.

1567
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 9: Sang, how do you explain that defensive performance given the

1568
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 9: stakes of this game.

1569
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we gotta be better. That starts with me. Gotta

1570
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 5: be better, bottom line. We can't give up that many yards.

1571
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 5: They scored a lot of points, went up and down

1572
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 5: the field. We got to get that cleaned up in

1573
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 5: a hurry.

1574
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 7: You know.

1575
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 5: It's you know, our defense played great last week and

1576
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 5: then this week got to be better and starts with me,

1577
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 5: bottom line.

1578
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 2: Shane Second. Last night, after the forty eight to twenty

1579
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: seven Laws officially eliminated from the AFC South, at some

1580
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: point in the nine o'clock hour, we will get to

1581
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: quite the interesting playoff scenario that the Colts still have

1582
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: with two weeks left. I can't give myself to go

1583
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: there though before nine o'clock, so we'll do that. I

1584
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: do want to give make sure I do this before

1585
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: we get to the end of the show. Massive thank

1586
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: you to Caleb Zuber, Mark Dyton, Eddie Garrison, Nathaniel Finch,

1587
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: Kurt Gerald, James Adams, all of our engineers behind the scenes,

1588
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 2: all of our producers, board ops. It's been quite the endeavor,

1589
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 2: moving buildings, new operating system. So a big, big thank

1590
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: you to people behind the scenes because I know it

1591
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: hasn't been easy. And also thank you to our listeners

1592
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: because I know there's been some hurdles and some hiccups

1593
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: and we appreciate your your patients. But thank you to

1594
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: all those involved. Love the new studio, love the new setup,

1595
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: but we've definitely had some expected hiccups, I guess, and

1596
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: so appreciate everybody behind the scenes and to the listeners

1597
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: as well for bearing with us here over the last

1598
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: week or so.

1599
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, Eddie Garrison, who I love, excluded it from that list.

1600
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 9: You still got some work to do, some things to

1601
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 9: you know, get through some levels to get to so.

1602
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 2: At Romeoville Kid on Twitter Eddie Garrison, I don't worry.

1603
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 9: He'll be choking me out when the next time I

1604
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 9: see him.

1605
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 10: Eddie Garrison and Richard Sherman Joy, I'll say.

1606
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 9: My love Eddie Garrison, runs DEVI I remember doing My

1607
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 9: Friend a show with Eddie years ago at this point.

1608
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, we've literally changed buildings since then.

1609
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 9: So shout out to all the guys behind the scenes

1610
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 9: who make us sound good on these airwaves.

1611
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: Eddie just builds mafia James on this table here and

1612
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 2: about it is possible when he gets in the building. Look,

1613
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 2: I told you I was very diplomatic growing up.

1614
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 9: You know, the weight class didn't help when it comes

1615
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 9: to fighting, so I knew would to pick and choose

1616
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:20,919
Speaker 9: my battles.

1617
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 2: I believe you. Part of me wants to cop out

1618
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: and throw the question back at you, but I think

1619
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: you asked the question right, I'll throw it at me.

1620
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm sick of these people are asking me the same question.

1621
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 2: How much are injuries a valid excuse? Right first? If

1622
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: you want me to no, no, no, you you asked

1623
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 2: the question, you know. I think on the egregious scale

1624
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: of nine years of Chris Ballard, is this season atop

1625
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: the list? No, not at all. I don't think it's

1626
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: maybe one of the top two or three seasons either.

1627
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 2: But there are teams, and honestly, probably the two teams

1628
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 2: most relevant the cults right now.

1629
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 10: I e.

1630
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 2: Your opponent last night and the team that is currently

1631
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: above you in the playoffs and is likely to make

1632
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,879
Speaker 2: the playoffs over you, Houston and losing their starting quarterback

1633
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: as well and winning without him for several games. There's

1634
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: an element of you have to overcome some of that,

1635
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: and you know when you look at the schedule, it's

1636
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: going to play out in the manner that you had

1637
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 2: a very easy first half schedule period and certainly you

1638
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: pass that with flying Colors, But the question was always

1639
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: going to be could you sustain it at some level?

1640
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: And as the schedule started to stiffen, you wilted. And

1641
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, the injury excuse has always been a tough

1642
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: one for me because James, like have the Colts had

1643
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: some big time injuries. Certainly, technically, if you want to

1644
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: be technical, you were out of the playoffs when Daniel

1645
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 2: Jones towards Achilles. Now is he battling through obviously a

1646
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: leg injury. Yeah, but like you were out at that moment,

1647
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 2: and you've had pristine health at the skill players, you

1648
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: know what happens if Jonathan Taylor has normal running back health?

1649
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: What happens if your offensive line for thirteen or fourteen

1650
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: games was barely touched? Like, are we going to continue

1651
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: to go down this path? Daniel Jones has really never

1652
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: been healthy and playing at an acceptable level in his

1653
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 2: entire NFL career? Is that something I was just supposed

1654
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: to expect what happened over the final two months of

1655
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: the season. So I again, on the egregious scale, are

1656
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: there other seasons there? But to say right now that

1657
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: this regime deserves another crack at it because of injuries

1658
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 2: and because you don't want to give a new GM

1659
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 2: draft classes that won't have first round picks doesn't sound

1660
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: like a very ringing endorsement on why those people deserve

1661
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: to be back.

1662
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 9: I think I'm probably with you on that one. I

1663
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 9: do think it is a nuanced conversation. But we don't

1664
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 9: live life in a vacuum. If this was just you

1665
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 9: year one, one season, I could get with the Okay,

1666
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 9: injuries crept up on you. You couldn't predict the future,

1667
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 9: the Achilles, the fracture, fibula, sauce gardner in this calf.

1668
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 9: I have to ask myself, now, Okay, are you playing

1669
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 9: again this year given the nature of those injuries and

1670
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 9: what we saw that lead to with Tyre's halliburn, And

1671
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 9: you know certainly don't want the cash trying to turn

1672
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 9: into an achilles tear. But point being Kevin, it's hard

1673
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 9: to find a silver lining or a certain level of

1674
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 9: grace we should extend this regime.

1675
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 2: Well and also too, and you know, thank you to

1676
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: listener Eric for pointing this out too. Maybe if there

1677
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: was more like on the resume, you could excuse us

1678
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: a little bit, more like what if you had whatever

1679
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: two or three year run where you won the division

1680
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 2: a couple times, maybe you won a playoff game, maybe

1681
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 2: you showed some late season promise, but like that's not there. Yeah,

1682
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: you know what, and you have to search long and

1683
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: hard for it again. You know, when I asked about

1684
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: that question the combine, what do you feel like your

1685
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 2: greatest accomplishment has been as a GM Correct if I'm wrong,

1686
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 2: but I believe you went back to either twenty eighteen

1687
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: or twenty twenty. Yeah, I mean we're now in the

1688
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 2: year of twenty twenty five. Does two months of good

1689
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 2: football all of a sudden say let's go year ten, baby,

1690
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: let's run it back now again. These are all my thoughts.

1691
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: I want to make that very clear. I mean, you

1692
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: asked this question to us right here. I am very torn.

1693
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: I guess unknown on exactly what the powers that be

1694
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: will do, but I just sure there's context to it,

1695
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to ignore the injuries but to me,

1696
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: there's just a lot. I guess I'm the naughty list.

1697
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: If you will that, it's hard to overlook.

1698
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 9: The naughty list. Does that get broken out in the

1699
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 9: Bowing household? Do you use that as a little bit

1700
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 9: of a web.

1701
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: Huge threat to It's honestly probably my greatest weapon right now.

1702
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 10: Is there an elf on the shelf from the ball

1703
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 10: in house?

1704
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 7: Sure?

1705
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, Emily moved to where did Emily? All

1706
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: of a sudden I looked out of the corner of my

1707
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: eye and Emily was moving last night. I think she's

1708
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: on top of this math that Nelly sits on, which

1709
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: I think will really rattle Max when he sees that

1710
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 2: this morning. I can hear him screaming, it's gotta following

1711
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: them up. You would bring them back because of why?

1712
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Like when I hear that, I think that thought that

1713
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: argument people meet it with, well, you don't have your

1714
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: two first round picks, so what the only reason I

1715
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like white a minute, is that a ringing endorsement?

1716
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's a ringing the endorsement, but

1717
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 9: I think it is already commitment to what you.

1718
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: We're going to do anyway, which that gets into a

1719
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: little bit of a commitment this and maybe we need

1720
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: to have a bigger conversation, maybe we should wait till

1721
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 2: the season ends. But James, I hear you out on

1722
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: that point, and that to me is a little bit

1723
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: more of the alarming Carly Urth say Gordon side of it.

1724
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe hindsight's twenty twenty, but like for

1725
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: her to sign off on that trade was quite the

1726
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: backing of again not only saws Gardner or the player,

1727
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: but Daniel Jones is your franchise quarterback, and Chris Baward

1728
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: and Shane Stiken in the positions that they are, And

1729
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: as an owner, that's a bit alarming two months into

1730
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: it that you felt like whatever everything had been turned

1731
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 2: around or however you wanted to define it to make

1732
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: that massive of a trade, and for you to say, well,

1733
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: because we did it, we can't now go back on it.

1734
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. That sounds like dangerous leading from me.

1735
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: And I've said this quite often before. So much of

1736
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 2: I think people in positions of authority like that is

1737
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 2: you have to admit when you're wrong, and that's really

1738
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: difficult to do, like it took Chris Bouard a long

1739
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: time to admit that, oh, maybe I should spend a

1740
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 2: little bit more free agency. I've used this example before.

1741
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 2: It kept and Prichard over the Pacers. It took him

1742
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: a little while to say, you know what, Sabonis and Turner,

1743
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: we probably should stop that. And then once he did,

1744
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: he found gold.

1745
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 9: So like that, I don't know, is that good business

1746
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 9: if you signed off on the deal, if you said

1747
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 9: let's do this and it didn't work out, let's get

1748
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 9: rid of you.

1749
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying it's bad.

1750
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 9: Business, but it certainly is an interesting move.

1751
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: I hear you out. But again, what's the business that

1752
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: that person has accomplished that you're then banking on? Like

1753
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 2: where is the resident?

1754
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 9: Like it goes back to that commentary you said.

1755
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 2: I mean when you get into the GM hired.

1756
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:43,959
Speaker 9: A lack of resume makes it hard.

1757
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 2: When you get in the GMS that hired the same

1758
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 2: year as Chris Ballard, the man on the other sideline

1759
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 2: last night, John Lynch, the man in Buffalo and Brandon

1760
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: Bean and the man in Kansas City and bread Beach.

1761
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: You went to weaar resumes Veach, Lynch, Bean, the Ballard.

1762
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 2: If I were a ballad, and I was in a classroom,

1763
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 2: I'd be running to get out of that classroom before

1764
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: those popped up on the screen. To see what Kansas City,

1765
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo in San Francisco I've done in the time that

1766
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 2: I've been GM much more. Nine o'clock hour, one final

1767
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 2: hour here before we head to Christmas. It is only

1768
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: one of them won a Super Bowl? Is this Green Day?

1769
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 2: That it is? Gosh? I do love Green Day.

1770
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 10: It's a great song.

1771
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: I've even got a Green Day CD am I stocking

1772
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 2: one year.

1773
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 10: That's what this last two months has felt like. You're

1774
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 10: just walking along a street broken dreams of division titles

1775
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 10: and playoff berths.

1776
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. Man Well said right there,

1777
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 2: that's Caleb Zoomer filling in from Mark Dighton, Kevin Bow

1778
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 2: and James boyd Uh Friday. We will be back. That'll

1779
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 2: be our next show as we look ahead, and James,

1780
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: I guess is it time to talk playoff chances? I

1781
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 2: had to get through the first two hours.

1782
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 9: Yes, because Philip Rivers said he's come back from slimmer odds. Okay,

1783
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 9: he might be a slimmer man back then, so I

1784
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 9: don't Nevertheless, the Philip Rivers we trust.

1785
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can explain this in very

1786
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: simple terms, so feel free to interject if you feel

1787
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 2: like I am struggling.

1788
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 12: I'm already confused, all right, So the Colts have to

1789
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 12: have three games go their way to start, Okay, before

1790
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 12: we go anywhere else.

1791
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 2: Let's start with these three games. Saturday, you have to

1792
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: have the Chargers beat the Texans. If the Texans win

1793
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 2: over playoff hopes, then on Sunday, the Colts have to

1794
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 2: beat the Jaguars inside of Lucosolo Stadium. Correct for me

1795
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. Jacksonville still is playing for the AFC

1796
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 2: South title, right, it's them or Houston, I believe. So, yes,

1797
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: the Colts are eliminated from the South, but Jacksonville is

1798
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 2: still playing for something, so that game needs to go

1799
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: the Colts way, and the Colts then need to beat

1800
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 2: Houston week eighteen in Houston. So those are the three

1801
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: games before we go anywhere else, before we start talking

1802
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: strength of victory tiebreaker, those three things need to go

1803
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 2: the Colts way. If that happens, Chargers over Texans, Colts

1804
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 2: over Jags, Colts over Texans. That then gets the Colts

1805
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 2: and the Texans both at ten and seven. So now

1806
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 2: we start getting into tiebreakers, James, they will have split

1807
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 2: head to head, they will have the same divisional record,

1808
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: they'll have the same record of common games, they'll have

1809
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 2: the same record conference record wise. So that brings us

1810
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 2: all the way down to strength of victory. And this

1811
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: is where I passed the baton to you to explain, brother,

1812
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 2: I dropped that baton. Was that the most group project

1813
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 2: thing of like, you know, here we are for two weeks,

1814
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 2: we've really worked on and then I'm like, hey, man,

1815
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 2: can you finish those last ten pages? You know what's crazy.

1816
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 9: I actually had this experience in college and I did

1817
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 9: not finish those last ten pages.

1818
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 2: Went to the professor and told her.

1819
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 9: Hey, this girl story you told yesterday, No, this is

1820
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 9: the truth, A different story, no, no joke. I had

1821
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 9: a college class my senior year when I was graduating.

1822
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 9: We had a twenty page paper to write, and I

1823
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 9: got paired with this girl. We were supposed to write

1824
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 9: this together. It was some kind of like health class

1825
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 9: or something. And I remember messing her and trying to

1826
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 9: email her and trying to set things up to like

1827
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 9: get this stuff done, and she didn't respond ever, and

1828
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 9: So I remember going to my teacher and telling her, yo,

1829
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 9: I'm not writing twenty pages, I'll write you ten. And

1830
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 9: I threw under the bus and got it that class.

1831
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 9: So I almost want to throw you under the bus there,

1832
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 9: because I'm so confused still about this playoff scenario.

1833
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,839
Speaker 2: So we have the three games, right, Chargers over Texans,

1834
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 2: Colts over Jags, Colts over Texans. Now we get into

1835
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 2: strength of victory and to simplify it, basically, go through

1836
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 2: the Colts schedule and you need to cheer for the

1837
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,799
Speaker 2: teams the Colts have already beaten. Go through the Texans

1838
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 2: that would strengthen their victory.

1839
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 7: Right.

1840
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 2: This is like back in the BCS College Formula days.

1841
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 9: Right, Okay, I got I'm following, and you're cheering against

1842
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 9: the teams that the Texans have beat.

1843
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 2: That's how you have to look at it over the

1844
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: final two weeks. So, for example, the Colts really need

1845
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 2: to root for the Denver Broncos. In the final couple

1846
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 2: weeks they beat the Broncos. The Texans did not. They

1847
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 2: need to really root for, or I should say against,

1848
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 2: actually the Kansas City Chiefs because the Colts did not

1849
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,600
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs, but the Texans did beat the Chiefs.

1850
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: So on the list of teams you want to root for, Dolphins, Broncos, Falcons,

1851
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 2: those are teams the Colts beat this year, Houston did not.

1852
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 2: You want to root against the team you just lost

1853
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 2: to last night, the forty nine Ers, the Ravens, and

1854
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 2: the Bills, along with the Chiefs. Those are teams that

1855
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 2: the Texans have beat and the Colts haven't. So it

1856
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: gets very complicated very quickly.

1857
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 9: I was gonna say if you got telling me, I

1858
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 9: got a cheer for the Chiefs to win in the

1859
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 9: game the rest of the year.

1860
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 2: Boy, No, No, you want the Chiefs to lose because

1861
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 2: the Texans beat them. You did not. The Colts did

1862
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: not beat them. Oh, it's the inverse. Okay, I got you.

1863
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Now, who's confusing who? Now?

1864
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 9: I'm a I'm losing it. I'm losing I had it

1865
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 9: for a little bit, but I'm losing it.

1866
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 2: I probably could have done that in a better way,

1867
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 2: but I got nothing for you. Again, you could be

1868
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: eliminated by seven o'clock Saturday night by the time the

1869
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 2: Colts walked back.

1870
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 9: One day at a time, Right, what's the next thing

1871
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 9: that needs to happen. So the next thing that needs

1872
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 9: to happen is what.

1873
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 2: Where is that game? Caleb Chargers, Texans? Do you have

1874
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: any idea on that? Give us a spread on that.

1875
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: Chargers are still potentially playing for the AFC West. So

1876
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 2: the Chargers have a lot of.

1877
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 9: One seven of their last eight, which is crazy because

1878
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 9: they've had no offensive line basically all year.

1879
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 2: A lot to play for.

1880
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 10: I think Houston's you know it's in uh in La.

1881
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 2: What's the spread? Chargers by a point or two.

1882
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 10: First thing that popped up was ticket sales.

1883
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: Hold on a reminder, We've got three Christmas games coming

1884
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 2: up Thursday, so once you hate your family, you can

1885
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 2: view that. And then Saturday we have we have a

1886
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 2: couple of games.

1887
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 9: How long is it to you get a little tired

1888
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 9: of the family?

1889
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 2: Allowed to say on here?

1890
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 9: I said, I ain't married after about three hours man,

1891
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 9: So so.

1892
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 10: We don't have to answer that question. The Houston's Houston

1893
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 10: Texans are favored by one and a half.

1894
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 2: Favorite. I love my fan, I love I'm so lucky,

1895
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 2: love my family, love my in laws. Like I said,

1896
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm mad the Notre Dame lost to Fort Wayne. That's

1897
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 2: why Christmas is ruined for me. So I love the

1898
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 2: mont always liked them. That's a little distinction there, man.

1899
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can quantify it, but it

1900
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 2: just felt like that a mere Abdola fumble yesterday James

1901
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 2: just sucked the absolute life out of what you had created.

1902
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 2: So and I know the score was seven to seven

1903
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: and it was a fumble with what five minutes ago

1904
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 2: in the first quarter, Is that really that big of

1905
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 2: a game changing play? But it just felt like once

1906
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:29,839
Speaker 2: you played from behind, oh boy, you were climbing everest.

1907
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, it did feel like that. And I know it's

1908
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 9: certainly something that you don't plan on doing, but boy,

1909
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 9: that mistake in that moment, especially knowing that your margin

1910
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 9: for error down the stretch here is so slim, it's

1911
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 9: hard to recover from that. And again you're asking your

1912
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 9: offense to hold serve the entire game. That was not

1913
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 9: going to happen. They weren't going to score a touchdown

1914
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 9: in every single possession, go off to a great start,

1915
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 9: and ideally that was supposed to be a fourteen to seven.

1916
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 2: Start, not a fourteen fourteen start.

1917
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 9: But in the end, I guess it really didn't matter

1918
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 9: because you couldn't stop anybody anyways, I was.

1919
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 2: A little surprised they changed up the offensive line as

1920
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 2: much as they did. I know we had hinted at

1921
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 2: that quite a bit throughout the week that that was

1922
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 2: a direction they were going to go. But part of

1923
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 2: me thought, you should have just kept the five that

1924
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 2: ended the game on Sunday against Seattle. I get the

1925
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 2: Tanner borderline, he got hurt on the second snap, but

1926
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 2: they'd moved three offensive linemen and they only really needed

1927
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 2: to do one given their injury situation. Man the Jonathan Taylor,

1928
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 2: how much do you just shock that up to life

1929
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: with Philip Rivers means the Colts have to run out

1930
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,719
Speaker 2: of shotgun all day long, and it's like a drawplay

1931
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: to Taylor or there's no run threat at quarterback. What

1932
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 2: do you I mean? Two point nine that's the least

1933
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 2: efficient day of his season. I definitely think.

1934
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 9: It's part of it because you can't expect Philip Rivers

1935
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 9: to line up under center and.

1936
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 2: Make some things happen.

1937
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 9: I think he needs to and that certainly helped him

1938
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 9: dissect the defense yesterday. But yeah, no one's gonna fall

1939
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 9: for a zone read with Philip Rivers. You're not gonna

1940
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 9: run that You're not gonna do a run pass option

1941
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 9: with Philip Rivers, and with the way that defenses are

1942
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 9: playing them, they're going to force JT to have to

1943
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 9: be a superhuman to get any yards. The only reason

1944
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 9: he got the end zone yesterday is because Philip Rivers

1945
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 9: threw the ball down to the one yard line. He

1946
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 9: just plunged it in from there. So tough slighting for him.

1947
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 9: But yeah, for a guy who was in the MVP

1948
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 9: conversation halfway through the year, offensive Player of the Year shooting,

1949
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 9: none of that is happening at this point. I think

1950
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 9: that he probably still earns a Pro Bowl.

1951
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 2: No, and maybe in All Pro night Pro Bowl announced

1952
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 2: at ten AM, right, Is that true?

1953
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,600
Speaker 9: I believe so yeah. I mean I did not check it.

1954
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,799
Speaker 9: I would I did tweet out last night though. Philip

1955
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 9: Rivers get him in there. We know, you know in

1956
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 9: the NBA they had like the uh it's like the

1957
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 9: one year they had like the all time selections.

1958
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 2: It was like Kobe I think got one the greatest players.

1959
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 9: Well no, not that, No, they literally got like charity

1960
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 9: invites to the All Star Game sixteen year. Yeah, and

1961
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 9: like Dirt Nevinski got one more dunkin. Yeah, let's get

1962
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 9: Philip it to the Pro Bowl. He'd bring the interview.

1963
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 10: Hey, Tyler Huntley made a Pro Bowl one year, so

1964
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 10: it's not a question.

1965
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 2: She was the last Pro Bowl quarterback for this team.

1966
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 2: I'll have you know. Does Philip Rivers start Week one

1967
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty sixth season for the Colts? Oh? Boy,

1968
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 2: stop this?

1969
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 9: No, no, no, my goodness.

1970
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 2: He I feel like is it that quick of a no?

1971
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 2: I mean you gave me a quick note.

1972
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 10: I do feel like though he's been he's been kind

1973
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 10: of talking like this is he wants to go back

1974
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 10: and coach his high school team.

1975
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, his high school team's gonna have what

1976
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 2: little sisters of the poor Week one. She doesn't need

1977
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 2: to be back for that. Gunner's gonna throw for four fifteen. No,

1978
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: don't even worry about.

1979
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 9: Didn't we have coach Simon on last We shan't even

1980
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 9: try something like that. I would hand him a box

1981
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 9: and tell him get out of my face.

1982
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,799
Speaker 2: Y'all can go. Anthony Richardson will be wearing another jersey

1983
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: this time next year. Daniel Jones rehabbing the Achilles. Are

1984
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 2: we back to either Riley Leonard or Philip Rivers for

1985
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: a week one of next year. I asked that in

1986
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: all seriousness.

1987
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 9: And I'm telling you in all seriousness to stop playing

1988
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 9: with me. I love, you know, the older crowd. I

1989
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 9: love all the old folks to get out there. Nothing

1990
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,719
Speaker 9: against I don't have any you know, ageus beliefs.

1991
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 2: But no, he looks like this for two weeks of practice.

1992
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 2: What could he look like with two months of off

1993
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: season work? Here slip down a little bit and raised

1994
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 2: in all seriousness on well, I am kind of serious

1995
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 2: in the week one thing, but I don't have time

1996
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: for that today. My hands raised on Rivers from last night.

1997
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 2: It just, you know, obviously when he tried to get

1998
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 2: the true go balls, I'm trying to think there was

1999
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 2: one to Downs and one to Pittman, like that was

2000
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 2: a wounded duck. But he got some second level throws

2001
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 2: that I didn't think he would get, and that was

2002
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 2: the part of the offense the Colts were adamant they

2003
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 2: were going to get and they did that, and that

2004
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 2: to me is just a huge credit to Rivers and

2005
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 2: certainly Stichen as a play caller. You know, I mentioned

2006
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 2: this to lead off the show. River's ability to always

2007
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 2: throw to the guy's right shoulder. And again I'm not

2008
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 2: saying right like the right side of your body. I'm

2009
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 2: saying you're running up field, I'm gonna make sure that

2010
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 2: ball is in stride. You go back to those two

2011
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,679
Speaker 2: third longs on nobody drive. The Colts got into awful

2012
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 2: third down situations. It was third and eight, third and twelve.

2013
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,680
Speaker 2: That's a disaster given Philip rivers lack of movement. I

2014
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 2: believe Maddy Bone has been quoted of it looks like

2015
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 2: a mom six weeks postpartum watching Philip Rivers try to move.

2016
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 2: I think when you've had three kids, you're allowed to

2017
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 2: say that that's crazy. Again, that's Matty Boone if you

2018
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 2: want to direct quote her on that there. But you

2019
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 2: know you got in the third and eight and the

2020
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,640
Speaker 2: third and twelve James and I thought, oh boy, this

2021
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 2: is this is gonna get ugly. I mean, this is

2022
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: not going to go well. And boom Taylor and stride

2023
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 2: first down, Boom downs right shoulder, gets up the field

2024
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 2: first down. Next thing you know, you're humming. And then

2025
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 2: he gets the off sides call and takes the shots

2026
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 2: to Piers. I mean, you couldn't have scripted a better

2027
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: you know, opening drive and then the second drive. I

2028
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 2: know we played the clip earlier, but the third and

2029
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 2: goal from the sixteen to Piers no chance and the

2030
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 2: margin for air is so slim like you obviously sal

2031
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 2: throws as the game moved along with the windows shrunk

2032
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 2: and shout out to CJ. West, the IU defensive tackle

2033
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 2: getting his first career sack, splitting that double team and

2034
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 2: getting the Rivers And obviously the mobility is there and

2035
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 2: in the pick six wasn't good by any means, but

2036
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 2: still I did not think Rivers could do that. Was

2037
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 2: highly skeptical of this offense looking different than it did

2038
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 2: in Seattle, but it definitely did.

2039
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, boy, the night and day difference is

2040
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 9: between what we saw from the Colts offense last week

2041
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 9: to what we saw last not at least early on

2042
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 9: and in the defense last week to what the defense

2043
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 9: we saw last night. Boy, that is a hard pealed

2044
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 9: a swallow.

2045
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 2: And again San Friend's defense. We talked about it a

2046
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: lot yesterday. On paper, there was an ability to get

2047
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: to them or sack team in the NFL had struggled

2048
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 2: against the run down their top corner. Like if you

2049
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 2: looked at that in a normal NFL game week, you'd say,

2050
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 2: oh boy, there's a chance there. But again, would this

2051
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: Colts offense be able to exploit that? And I thought

2052
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 2: I thought they did. And again I really shout out

2053
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: to Joe Buck and Troy Ackman. I mean I'm biased here.

2054
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 2: I thought Buck was really good with us yesterday. If

2055
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 2: you missed out on the podcast a lot I you

2056
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 2: talk as well, that's up on the Fan Morning Chick

2057
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 2: that out podcast page. But you know, I thought ESPN

2058
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 2: did a wonderful job letting Philip Rivers just take over

2059
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 2: the broadcast really when he was at the line of scrimmage,

2060
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 2: like I kind of nerd out over that stuff, and

2061
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 2: it was clear the game plan was, let's go tempo,

2062
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 2: let's get Rivers the line of scrimmage with twenty eight

2063
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: on the play clock, and let's just let him maestro

2064
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 2: it Jack Everley from the Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra. That's what

2065
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna do. He's just gonna dissect the ditect. And

2066
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: River said he actually screwed up on the pick six.

2067
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 2: He said he had called out that phrase to Tyler

2068
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Warren earlier in the game, called it out again and

2069
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers linebacker de Winters jumped that route

2070
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 2: and that was the pick six there. But that was

2071
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 2: the maestro stuff from Rivers the line of scrimmage.

2072
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 10: I just feel like you don't see that anymore, do you.

2073
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 10: I mean it felt like a throwback to No, And

2074
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 10: so that's what was so cool.

2075
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to that level.

2076
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 10: No.

2077
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 2: And the thing is like it's necessary to you know,

2078
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 2: like some teams I think would be a little nervous, like,

2079
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 2: oh boy, is that too much to put on the

2080
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to play? But like the Colts have to create

2081
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: an offensive advantage somewhere right now. They're not doing with

2082
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 2: a run game. They're not gonna do it with shots

2083
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 2: down the field. You have to have a quarterback throw

2084
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 2: with anticipation. Well, how do you throw with anticipation? You

2085
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 2: have to know what the coverage is. And I think

2086
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: that's what Rivers did a really good job of so

2087
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 2: and I didn't see that coming at all. We got

2088
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 2: a couple of calls to get to We'll still get

2089
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 2: to that here, and let's go ahead and hit a

2090
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 2: morning checkdown. Pacers back in action tonight. It's Miles Turner

2091
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: inside of Gamebridge Field House for the second time this season.

2092
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 2: James Boyd on the Boo bird level. What will we

2093
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 2: get for mister Turner.

2094
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 9: On the Richter scale, I'll give you about a seven.

2095
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 9: It's an out of ten if that's the Richter scale,

2096
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 9: I mean that is correct.

2097
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 2: Called the first game like a ten, ten out of ten,

2098
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 2: but seven, Yeah, you're still getting boo brother. PACER's almost

2099
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 2: shot the world last night in Boston. They were a

2100
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 2: ten point underdog, had a huge lead and it got

2101
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 2: away majorly though in the second half. Thirteen points in

2102
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter for them. Just an awful second half offensively.

2103
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:57,679
Speaker 2: After again they had built a great lead, they shot

2104
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 2: the hell out of it to start the game there.

2105
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 2: So back to back for them that they'll take on

2106
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 2: the Celtics coming up on Friday. Shout out to Hinklefield

2107
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 2: House yesterday. It took Rozie and Max to the game,

2108
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 2: Ran and a listener Michael and has three sons at halftime,

2109
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 2: enjoyed chatting with him. Very balanced from Butler as they

2110
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 2: rolled New Jersey Institute of Technology. James, you've been to

2111
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 2: a couple high school basketball games this season, correct, Yes,

2112
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 2: I have. Does the crowd react to sixty seven points

2113
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 2: in those buildings like they did inside of Hinkle yesterday.

2114
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? I haven't noticed it. No, I'm

2115
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 2: not at a high school game. I mean you would

2116
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 2: you would have thought Blue had just taken a poop

2117
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 2: on the court. People went nuts so much when it

2118
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 2: got to six. So it was Rosie one of them.

2119
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's doing the little Max's got Dorito's all

2120
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 2: over his face and then he starts doing it. I'm like,

2121
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 2: is there anything worse than that epidemic? And now did

2122
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 2: I hear it's moved to forty one? Well, this is

2123
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 2: news to me. That's definitely. Don't quote me. I'm relaying

2124
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,640
Speaker 2: five year old jargon here. Let's hear it. That's what

2125
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 2: I've been told. Oh oh lord, trust me. We're gonna

2126
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 2: go through all all the numbers. We're gonna get the

2127
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Roman numerals.

2128
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 9: Sports where like you know, Kevin walks in with the skateboard.

2129
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 2: Hello, kids, had on hearing iye you over Siena down

2130
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 2: at Assembly Hall there. It's a long time offer Darren

2131
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 2: Derez and company. Nick dorn I like what he has

2132
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 2: shown here since coming back from injury. We'll see if

2133
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 2: you can tap into any of that here in the

2134
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 2: Big Ten as a restart that And did you see

2135
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame USC series is on the shelf for

2136
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 2: the foreseeable future.

2137
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Speaker 9: I did see this. What are your thoughts on that?

2138
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 2: Well, I'm obviously biased, That's what I want to know. Yeah,

2139
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 2: I agree with Keihon Johnson. I think you've grown to

2140
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 2: know with me, James. Something I love in college sports.

2141
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 2: I love the entertainment of the non conference on campus

2142
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 2: atmospheres we get. Yeah, go back to Week one of

2143
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 2: the college football season this year, like Ohio State. You know,

2144
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 2: we had three top ten games right out of the

2145
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 2: gay Notre Dame at Miami. I forget what the other

2146
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 2: one was, LSU, Clemson maybe, Like I think that is

2147
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 2: what helps make college sports unique and really cool, and

2148
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 2: I feel like we're starting to lose more of that. Like,

2149
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 2: if you're a USC fan, do you really care about

2150
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 2: your team going to play Purdue or your team traveling

2151
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 2: to even like get on a plane and go play

2152
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 2: at Penn State. That's kind of cool. But like Notre

2153
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 2: Dame's got history with you and that's rich. And I

2154
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 2: thought Keejon Johnson was accurate yesterday and being like why

2155
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 2: are we running from this? Like, I think there's a

2156
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 2: level of Texas did not miss the playoff because they

2157
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 2: lost at Ohio State. They missed the playoff because they

2158
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 2: lost to Florida, Like, let's let's get through all of

2159
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 2: that here. Miami made the playoff because they had a

2160
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 2: very quality win over Notre Dame to start the season.

2161
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 2: Like that helps you, that is what improves your resume here.

2162
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 2: So I just don't. I think college expansion has really

2163
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 2: hurt the rivalries and these sorts of games sticking on

2164
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,679
Speaker 2: the schedule here. Now, technically, I guess by you would

2165
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 2: have been a better win for Notre Dame than you'll

2166
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 2: see would have last year. I could argue with you

2167
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:07,799
Speaker 2: on that, but like, think about how I you basketball

2168
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 2: fans reacted to Kentucky going off the schedule for a

2169
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: decade plus and knowing how deep that rivalry is. That

2170
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 2: that's what I'm getting, Like, I don't want to lose that,

2171
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 2: and I get we're probably gonna lose it, and I

2172
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 2: get the Notre Dame needs the game more than you

2173
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 2: will see me needs the game. I'm not gonna be,

2174
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, ignorant to that fact, but I just don't

2175
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 2: like seeing it, and I would say that if it

2176
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 2: was whatever, you know, if Auburn and Alabama were in

2177
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 2: different conference. I'm trying to think of, like, what's a

2178
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 2: good rivalry, like when Oklahoma and Texas were not together

2179
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 2: in the same conference there, you know, or if if ever,

2180
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 2: I probably should say, you know, if Georgia Georgia Tech

2181
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,719
Speaker 2: had more of that, feel too, Iteah, I would feel

2182
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 2: that way about that. All right, let's do it. Uh here,

2183
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 2: come up on the other side, we'll continue to get

2184
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,799
Speaker 2: to the phone lines. Recap what happened last night Colts

2185
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 2: and forty nine ers. It is the fan morning Hill

2186
01:50:54,960 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 2: here on a Tuesday, Philip Rivers of the game last night. Yeah,

2187
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 2: for those that went to bed, Colts were driving. What

2188
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 2: was that pick six James like through thirty to go

2189
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, just under four in the game.

2190
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 2: So again, the thought there is he punts that in

2191
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 2: what maybe a minute after that two thirty to go?

2192
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 2: You had two timeouts and a two point conversion. This

2193
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 2: is where you answer your joke about the Colts defense

2194
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 2: getting a stop. I mean, hell, you probably would have

2195
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: on site kicked it. That's probably ho much faith you

2196
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 2: would add in your defense at that point there. So

2197
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 2: Philip rivers last night. My expectation is he definitely starts Sunday, right,

2198
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 2: your expectation he starts next year, so of course you

2199
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: starts Sunday. I asked the question, to be fair, asked it,

2200
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 2: did not answer it, just ask it. That's why I

2201
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: like to ask the question and then don't have to

2202
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: answer it. But you just leave me with the grenade.

2203
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 2: The only practice once this week?

2204
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 7: Right?

2205
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Do I see that?

2206
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 7: Correct?

2207
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 2: Walk through Tomorrow, practice, Friday, nothing Thursday. There you have

2208
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 2: it with Christmas, short week, short week with Jacksonville here.

2209
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 2: So again, technically the.

2210
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 9: Colts say Phillip don't need practice could.

2211
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 2: Be eliminated before they kick off Sunday. Chargers Texans, we

2212
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: might have to get a Chargers chant going here before

2213
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 2: the end of the show, Caleb, if we can find

2214
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 2: some nice audio here. Uncle Moe's been hanging in there

2215
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 2: for a while, Uncle Mo about this? What's up?

2216
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 7: Mo? Well, as you had to be hanging here because

2217
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 7: I was sitting here waiting. Caleb's mom and myself were

2218
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 7: sitting here waiting to see what he was going to

2219
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 7: say about Christmas and having the family around. How long before?

2220
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't answer that part now that No.

2221
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I wanted to talk about the insanity of

2222
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 7: repeating everything and all the things that went on. You know,

2223
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 7: Shane keeps saying the same excuses over and over. The

2224
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 7: season has come to where it is quit at the

2225
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 7: end of the season. We never get anything done. In December,

2226
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 7: the failures of the season were going to be eight

2227
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 7: and nine. Heck, we even brought back Philip Rivers repeat

2228
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 7: you know, and you guys had said something earlier about

2229
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 7: whether or not missus Ursay would do anything after she

2230
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 7: had signed off. Well, you know, out in the real world,

2231
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 7: I believe that if businesses admit they made a mistake,

2232
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 7: they do that no matter what, and then they make

2233
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:21,680
Speaker 7: a change. I mean, our defense last night, where was

2234
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 7: Jalen Jones and Carlis when things weren't working? Where was

2235
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,759
Speaker 7: the safety blitzes and all that? We just kept doing

2236
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 7: things over and over and over And that's an insanity thing,

2237
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 7: and it just frustrates me as a fan for so

2238
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 7: long and just watching it go on and on and

2239
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 7: on and on and on and nobody making a change.

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01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: Well, nod in my head and a lot of that.

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01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 8: MO.

2242
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you. You've got an incredible son. This

2243
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 2: is mo the father of Caleb. He does excellent, excellent

2244
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,440
Speaker 2: work up. The Zuber family has a great Christmas.

2245
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate you guys, and Merry Christmas to all

2246
01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 7: of you too, And thanks for taking care of my

2247
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 7: uncle Moe.

2248
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: Right there, shout out Uncle Moe ran the Colts five

2249
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 2: K with us on the hot line. I was gonna say,

2250
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 2: he's got some history with James Boy. I'll tell you what.

2251
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 2: For Colts fans, I don't know, Mo. I think they

2252
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 2: hear that call and they say I can listen to

2253
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 2: him to talking to talk. Yeah, is he doing a

2254
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 2: Christmas Mass in a gym somewhere coming up the next

2255
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 2: couple days. I could listen to Mo' it's.

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01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 10: Funny too, Kevin like all my Colts friends, and I

2257
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 10: like he is the north Star like for all of us.

2258
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 10: How he's feeling is usually how all of us are feeling. So,

2259
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 10: I mean, I think he makes a lot of interesting

2260
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 10: points there.

2261
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 9: One of them that he makes is the Jaylen Jones point.

2262
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 9: And there was probably ten plays in that game where

2263
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 9: I'm just thinking to myself, I understand your cornerback room

2264
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 9: is depleted, but where the heck is Jalen Jones.

2265
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 2: You want to go over these cornerback snap counts from yesterday, James,

2266
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 2: please do because I've looked at him yet. Yeah. So

2267
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 2: you did see Jones in coverage on George Kittle. I

2268
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 2: believe that was got the one rare stop. So your

2269
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 2: cornerback snap counts. Makai Blackman played forty six of sixty six,

2270
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 2: Jonathan Edwards forty five of sixty six. Boy, he seems

2271
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: like Kenny Moore has been so quiet thirty five for him. Uh,

2272
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 2: and then you had uh do we go all the

2273
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,879
Speaker 2: way to Jones next? Oh my gosh, Jones with four snaps?

2274
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 2: Four snaps out of sixty six. How many did Cameron

2275
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 2: Mitchell get? I forgot about Mitchell forty three?

2276
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 9: See so if I'm looking out to respect to him,

2277
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,839
Speaker 9: but Jalen Jones, black.

2278
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 2: And Edwards forty five, Mitchell forty three, Kenny Moore thirty five.

2279
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 2: Kenny Moore got the fourth most cornerback snaps.

2280
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 9: Look, man, that might be a slot thing or different

2281
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 9: packages you're throwing out there, whatever the case may be.

2282
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 9: Still he's got to play more than what he did yesterday.

2283
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 9: And people were telling me all he played poorly. I

2284
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 9: don't care at that point, because the guys that you're

2285
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 9: putting out there, they're playing poorly with no resume.

2286
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 2: That's the other thing that was frustrating me.

2287
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 9: I'm watching him like I understand if, like, for example,

2288
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 9: the Forest Buckner didn't look like the Forest Buckner yesterday

2289
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 9: coming off ir You can criticize his level of play,

2290
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 9: but at least he has a resume that warrns him

2291
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 9: staying out there.

2292
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 2: The amount of.

2293
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 9: Times that I looked up and I was like, man,

2294
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 9: is that Camra Mitchell getting coverage? Where the heck is

2295
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 9: Jaylen Jones? The guy started for the better part of

2296
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 9: two seasons. You mean to tell me he's not good

2297
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 9: enough for the Winter Removes Defense. That is something I

2298
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 9: look forward to asking more about. I did ask Shane

2299
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 9: about it after the game, and I'm getting fired up

2300
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 9: about it just because I feel like it's frustrating to

2301
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 9: try to tell us that, oh, it's a matchup base

2302
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 9: thing bump that the matchups cannot be telling you that

2303
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 9: Camra Mitchell is better than Jaylen Jones unless Jalen Jones

2304
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 9: is like the worst cornerback ever in practice. I don't

2305
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 9: want to see the other guy be playing over him anymore.

2306
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree to things there. First off, Yes

2307
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 2: on Jalen Jones and too, just more of Kenny Moore

2308
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 2: in general, I'd rather have them out there than the others.

2309
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 2: When you consider the fourth most snaps. I get the

2310
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Jones had some struggles in Jacksonville a few weeks ago,

2311
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 2: but still it's not deserving of those snaps. It's not

2312
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:12,120
Speaker 2: like the other guys are playmaking to the level to

2313
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 2: where you're at now we get into all this corner combo.

2314
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 2: You are down Sauce Gardner and Javeri's ward right now.

2315
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 2: My biggest issue, and this comes back to probably a

2316
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 2: big picture point of view, because you know, you can

2317
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 2: point to lack of division titles, lack of playoff appearances,

2318
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 2: lack of playoff wins, however you want to slice it

2319
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 2: from a win loss record playoff resume. I think it's

2320
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 2: a fair argument to say the position group that Chris

2321
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 2: Ballard believes the most in is the defensive line and

2322
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 2: James Boyd, I'm watching a group with seven draft picks

2323
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: in rounds one, two, and three in that defensive line room.

2324
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 2: If you look at that defensive line room, it's like

2325
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 2: walking into an sec sorority house. I mean it is

2326
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 2: littered with rich investments. Wow, draft, I don't know if

2327
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 2: that was a good analogy. Kind of like that you

2328
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 2: could tell that the Boone household has been struggling on

2329
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 2: some sleep lately. When I'm when I'm throwing that out

2330
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 2: there at nine forty, was it good or not? I

2331
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 2: thought anything hilarious?

2332
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 10: Man?

2333
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see all these sorority tiktoks. I must say

2334
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 2: that you have won funny money. Yeah, funny money is

2335
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 2: probably a good way to put it.

2336
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 9: It cost to be in those sororities, that's for sure.

2337
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 2: And look it costs to be in that cult D

2338
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 2: line room draft pick and money. Yeah, I mean it

2339
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 2: is rich with investments, littered with major resources, and they

2340
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 2: don't even sneeze on brock party. Trevor Lawrence in a

2341
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 2: game with rain. The only reason you knew he was

2342
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 2: playing outdoors was because of the rain a few weeks

2343
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 2: back now because the Colts hit him. And that to

2344
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 2: me is you get into the evaluation of Chris Ballard

2345
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 2: as as a whole again. I think it was enough

2346
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 2: on the win lost playoff resume to provide a proper

2347
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 2: answer for you. But if I'm Carl Ersa Gordon, I'm

2348
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 2: looking at the Chris Bauer blueprint that he presented me

2349
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen or twenty sixteen. I'm setting myself

2350
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I sit here now nine years into

2351
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 2: your era, and I think I can make an argument

2352
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 2: that the defensive line, given the investments, has been the

2353
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 2: biggest disappointment. I think that's another kind of jarring element

2354
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 2: to evaluating him. It's a that D line group I

2355
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 2: would argue rather annually as disappointed. And last night was

2356
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 2: the whole Boy, I got to see it. Yeah, I

2357
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 2: mean McCaffrey just gashed him. I mean six and eight

2358
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 2: and five and ten, and I mean he hasn't been

2359
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 2: doing that all year and party, I mean he had

2360
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 2: shout out to Connor sent us the text earlier in

2361
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,879
Speaker 2: the show. I felt like I was watching San Francisco

2362
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: by a walk through out there.

2363
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was chilling. He basically was on an island,

2364
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 9: Pina coladas and everything.

2365
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 2: Boy, Kittle's a dog. Kittle's really good.

2366
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 9: I will say this too. The couple of throws that

2367
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 9: were kind of in traffic yesterday, their players came down

2368
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 9: with them.

2369
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 2: Right, And that's a whiteout group that's not heralded. But Jennings.

2370
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 2: Who's the other one that I'm forgetting besides Jennings? Was

2371
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:27,000
Speaker 2: it Robinson?

2372
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 7: Maybe?

2373
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 2: Did he have the first touchdown? I think it was

2374
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 2: hell sky Moore. I forgot sky Moore was even on

2375
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 2: San Francisco. He made a couple of those catches.

2376
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 9: The only one who does that for the Colts is

2377
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 9: Alec Pierce. It felt like he'll go get the ball.

2378
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 2: Where should your rooting interests lie? If you still want

2379
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 2: the Colts in the playoffs, will throw it at you

2380
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 2: one more time. Morning show here on a Tuesday, boy,

2381
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 2: I must say, Caleb Zuber, you've been outstanding and filling

2382
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 2: in from Mark Dighton here lately. Caleb informed us during

2383
02:00:57,400 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 2: the break James he was gonna come back with some

2384
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 2: Christmas music. On the list of Christmas songs, this one

2385
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 2: it's about like the Colts defense last night, whoa whoa,

2386
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 2: whoa dang dang. I mean, come on, what you want

2387
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 2: little Michael Jackson sand I mean give me.

2388
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 3: Comment.

2389
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 2: I do like that song though that sounded like Philip

2390
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:22,920
Speaker 2: Rivers scrambling is what he just?

2391
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 11: I don't know.

2392
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 9: We we we two to one on this one.

2393
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:32,080
Speaker 2: Gosh, give me joy to the world or something. Joy

2394
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 2: to the world. Come on that, but have been way

2395
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 2: worse last night. Joy to the world. The sky is

2396
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 2: falling in Indianapolis, haven't you heard? Should we go over

2397
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 2: playoff scenarios again?

2398
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 10: Oh?

2399
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:46,680
Speaker 2: My goodness? Yes, uh Caleb, one clip for who the

2400
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 2: Colts need to root for this weekend? Go Charga Scow.

2401
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 2: That's so good. Well one more time, go Chargia Scow.

2402
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 2: There you go. Saturday four point thirty. You need Chargers

2403
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 2: over Texans. So again, those three games before we get

2404
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 2: to strength of victory, which makes my head want to

2405
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:12,800
Speaker 2: absolutely explode. Those three games the Colts need to get

2406
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 2: to the craziest tiebreaker of all tiebreakers. You need Chargers

2407
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 2: over Texans on Saturday, you need Colts over Jags on Sunday.

2408
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 2: And if those two happened, then you need Colts over

2409
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 2: Texans in Houston week eighteen. If all that happens, we

2410
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 2: get into strength of victory and good luck deciding that.

2411
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:34,760
Speaker 2: You imagine being the NFL employee that has to do

2412
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 2: that math.

2413
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:39,400
Speaker 9: And believe it or not, they do have someone who

2414
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 9: has to be on top of that stuff. Boy, imagine

2415
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 9: what kind of degree do you need for that.

2416
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:48,080
Speaker 10: That and making the schedule I feel like two of

2417
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:51,400
Speaker 10: the harder, harder jobs. I feel like, I know the

2418
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 10: schedule is usually lined out like Okay, this division plays

2419
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 10: this division. But to get it all match up with

2420
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 10: like road trips and all that, that's seems impossible to me.

2421
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 9: When we talked to Milanni Lowe, certainly smarter than me,

2422
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 9: what was it, Colts president of football Ops. She was

2423
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:09,480
Speaker 9: telling us about the Germany game preparation.

2424
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking, boy, her job is very hard. I

2425
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 2: asked this in all seriousness, James, we are going to

2426
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 2: get Pro bowlers announced at the top of the hour.

2427
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 2: Give me your Colts twenty twenty five Pro bowlers.

2428
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:39,680
Speaker 9: Jonathan Taylor, Quentin Nelson. I think that might be Warren maybe,

2429
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 9: but I'm not hold my breath on it.

2430
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 2: He was fourth in fan vote, Cam Bye him was

2431
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 2: fifth and fan vote again, that's one third of it.

2432
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 2: Fan player and coach add up to it. Quentin Nelson's sixth,

2433
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 2: Nick Cross. I was surprised to see ninth.

2434
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 7: J T.

2435
02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 2: Nelson. Yeah, nod in my head at that. Again, I

2436
02:03:58,240 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 2: would say Warren would be the.

2437
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 9: I think the only two for sure that I would

2438
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 9: expect to be on that list, are JT and Quentin?

2439
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 9: Anybody else is probably a bonus. And honestly, after last.

2440
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 2: Night, how many people pro bowlers said in their car

2441
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 2: when I asked you twenty twenty five pro bowlers, who

2442
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 2: the bleep cares? And maybe not bleep aboud say over? Under?

2443
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 2: Twelve and a half people in their car said that

2444
02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm taking the over. Yeah, we got a good listening crowd.

2445
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm taking the over. Who knows? Maybe they're in the

2446
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 2: Christmas spirit after hearing that electricity that Caleb brought us back.

2447
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 10: In with, Oh good is you know you're off for

2448
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 10: the rest of the week. Heavy, You're not in on Friday.

2449
02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:45,120
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a sour taste left? Am I here?

2450
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 2: Am I screwging it up? Yeah? But I mean it was.

2451
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 10: It probably could have been a better selection. I'm not

2452
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:53,640
Speaker 10: gonna lie, but I do love that song.

2453
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 7: Though.

2454
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 2: Tell you what, boys, I need socks and underwear. I mean,

2455
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 2: does there anything say I'm old? I need socks in underwear.

2456
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Brother, you sound low, but

2457
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 9: that's about what you know the rents want.

2458
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean, hell, I got gray hair. I've had a

2459
02:05:08,200 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 2: hair transplant. I mean, I guess I kind of fit

2460
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 2: the script right. How about this hat though? Are you

2461
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 2: Are you liking this Santa hat that I'm rocking here?

2462
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:17,000
Speaker 9: I think you look great in the Santa hat. My

2463
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 9: mom is big into Santa hat. She has a collection.

2464
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 9: Oh really yeah, shout out Laurena boy. She will be

2465
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 9: rocking a Santa hat or a Christmas head of a

2466
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 9: different variety every day throughout the rest of the year.

2467
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 2: I guess we should note James that was probably the

2468
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 2: most injured game the Colts have had all season. I'm

2469
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 2: trying to think of my guys who dropped during the game. Correct,

2470
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:43,320
Speaker 2: Canna Bordelini second snap. That was a scary play. Honestly, Yeah,

2471
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 2: that was his first miss time of belief due to

2472
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 2: injury right this season. I believe so so Danny Pincer,

2473
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:52,600
Speaker 2: the ball State product, came in there. Uh fill me in.

2474
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 2: JT Twumalowau oblique injury for him. I believe that was

2475
02:05:56,480 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 2: on a kickoff. So the second round just appointing, frankly

2476
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:02,880
Speaker 2: rookie season for him. I think it's fair to say

2477
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 2: we'll see if it continues. Drew Ogo Tree with a

2478
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 2: neck boy Rivers peppered him with a couple of targets

2479
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:09,000
Speaker 2: there on that one.

2480
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:12,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, but anytime you hear Nick get a little anty there,

2481
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 9: Dalton Tucker brief came back into the game.

2482
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I guess the two that will monitor this

2483
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 2: week James will be Bernard Ryman and Sauce Gardner. I

2484
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 2: think when Sauce first got hurt, it was always this

2485
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 2: Jacksonville game that was kind of going to be circled.

2486
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 2: So we'll see about that.

2487
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:32,880
Speaker 9: And then Bury did definitively say he believes saus will

2488
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 9: play again this.

2489
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 2: Year and again, just to clear up everything from a

2490
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 2: playoff situation standpoint, While the Colts could technically be eliminated

2491
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 2: by kickoff on Sunday, they wouldn't know that until like

2492
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:50,839
Speaker 2: seven pm Saturday. Well seven pm Saturday, you've done ninety

2493
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:55,200
Speaker 2: eight percent of your preparation for that game. So even

2494
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 2: if all of a sudden the Texans beat the Chargers,

2495
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 2: I still would think Rivers would start Sunday and you

2496
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 2: would probably stick with whatever plan you've had throughout that week.

2497
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't say I couldn't foresee just and all of

2498
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 2: a sudden, a huge flip of the script there for

2499
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:12,880
Speaker 2: those that went to bed last night. Riley Leonard did

2500
02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 2: play the final three minutes. Nothing noteworthy. I think the

2501
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 2: Colts turnover on downs if I remember correctly, at that

2502
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:21,160
Speaker 2: point of the game. But just some things to monitor

2503
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 2: all week long again the Colts. It'll be a short

2504
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 2: week with Jacksonville coming in here on Sunday. Reminder, we've

2505
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 2: got Pacers and Celtics on these airwaves coming up tonight,

2506
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 2: and yes, I will be out Friday. It is yourself,

2507
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:38,440
Speaker 2: James Boyd and Greg Rakestraw correct, yes, her, so that

2508
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 2: would be coming up on Friday. So instead of eight

2509
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:42,680
Speaker 2: o'clock with Rake, you got the whole damn three hours

2510
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 2: with him.

2511
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 9: Looking forward to it now, first time doing a full

2512
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 9: show with him, so shout out to the goat.

2513
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:50,840
Speaker 10: Here's my question to you guys as we go into Christmas.

2514
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 10: I know the NFL is trying to make Christmas their day.

2515
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 10: Are you guys watching the NFL or the NBA on Christmas?

2516
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 10: I'm an NBA guy personally because that's just what I

2517
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:03,320
Speaker 10: grew up on. But I feel like the NFL in

2518
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 10: the NFL games this year, if you look at them

2519
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 10: on Christmas, not very good. So I don't know what

2520
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:13,240
Speaker 10: you guys are watching on Christmas Day, but I'm curious.

2521
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 2: Let's rattle off that Christmas slate here, James, before you

2522
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 2: go ahead and chime in on that one. So three

2523
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:25,360
Speaker 2: games Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos Chiefs, Yuck, Yuck and yuck.

2524
02:08:26,040 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 2: You weren't lying, kleb Lions Vikings? Is that like a

2525
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 2: battle for a playoff spot?

2526
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:32,040
Speaker 7: And eight?

2527
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:34,600
Speaker 10: I kind of didn't know the Vikings were seven and eight.

2528
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:37,280
Speaker 10: I don't know what that says me, but I'm kind

2529
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 10: of shocked.

2530
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:40,480
Speaker 2: And then we got the two games Saturday. James, what

2531
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 2: are you doing viewing wise?

2532
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 9: I'm a degenerate. I'll be watching the NFL mostly.

2533
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 2: Wow, James, I didn't have that for you.

2534
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 9: Is Lebron playing, I'll watch Lebron or Steph Curry if

2535
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 9: they're playing.

2536
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 10: I think they're like the five o'clock.

2537
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll probably switch over for like my goats of

2538
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 9: this era. So if it's Kevin Durant, Lebron or Steph Curry,

2539
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 9: I'll tune in. But yeah, other than that, I yeah, Unfortunately,

2540
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 9: they've they've got me hooked. Ian watches the horrible NFL game. Now, Okay,

2541
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 9: you guys need to spend more time with your family.

2542
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:13,839
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go. I have time for the NFL

2543
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 2: games man who cares. He's the only staying this because

2544
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:19,360
Speaker 2: Nelly doesn't have a choice right now. Here's a Notre

2545
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:22,480
Speaker 2: Dame basketball lost to Fort Wayne Man about being grateful

2546
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:26,360
Speaker 2: and cherish love and the memories not going golfing. Gosh,

2547
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 2: I wish and how great would that be? I did

2548
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:32,640
Speaker 2: see multiple golf courses are open right now. James Boyd,

2549
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 2: thank you. Caleb Zuber, thank you as well. Get to

2550
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 2: watch Nelly for a little bit. Imagine James could how

2551
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 2: quickly did he laugh at that? Oh my gosh, changing

2552
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:45,640
Speaker 2: if you miss it, Joe Buck was on our podcast.

2553
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 2: It was on the show yesterday, a lot of stuff.

2554
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:49,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he's very time sensitive, so check that

2555
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,600
Speaker 2: out on the podcast. Everybody, have an awesome, awesome Christmas.

2556
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 2: If we don't talk to you for whatever till New Year's,

2557
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 2: happy New Year as well. Thank you to all of

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Speaker 2: our producers behind the scenes. People, Merry Christmas, safetyvels. Everybody