1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Ah, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: with a very special in studio guest. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Has a great podcast called Those ash Holes. I always 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: have to make sure I say that properly so I 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: don't get yelled at ash holes as in cigarette ash 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: I love it, But prior to that, it was kind 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: of a badass that would jump out of planes for 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: the United States and military. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: Brian Alvi joins us, my man, how are you. What's up? 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 4: Guys? 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 5: You get yeah, definitely a heavy hit emphasis on a 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 5: sh of ash holes. 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, a military correspondent of the Hammer and Niel that's right, sure, yeah, 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: and proudly affiliated with you guys, very proudly. 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: Long time, long time. You guys have been so good 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: to me for so long. I love you guys. 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 5: You started off helping me with my non for profit 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 5: for Better as a Warrior one ten and it just 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 5: everything has just gone unbelievably well over the last few years. 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: We like to bring you in when we've got military 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: stuff going on, and lo and behold there. 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: Is some stuff happening here. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: We've got a little I'm using air quotes cease fire 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: happening right now between the United States and Iran. Even 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: though looks like Israel, Iran Lebanon, it's still game on 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: as usual. 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, straight of horror. 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Meuse. 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: Some say it's open, some say it's closed. 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: Before we get into the nuts and bolts and different 31 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: angles of everything going on, just your overall perspective on 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: what you've seen just the last twenty four hours. 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 4: Uh, I am. I am. 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 5: My red line in the sand I'm drawing is optimism. 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 5: I'm optimistic. 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: You know. My big thing is keeping. 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 5: Conventional forces out of being in an occupying force in Iran. 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: That's my hard line I'm not crossing. 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: Is this progress? 40 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 5: I guess it is if they if Iran holds to 41 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 5: this absolutely and I am unbelievably optimistic that they will. 42 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 5: I hope they were able to work things out in 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 5: the next two weeks, work through some things. 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: I think. 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: You know, there is the two little the factors on 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: both sides. Will will they actually pull back and allow 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 5: travel through the strait? 48 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: You know? 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 5: And and you know everybody playing home and lit you know, 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: I think we get about we have about the US 51 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 5: has about two percent of oil coming through that straight 52 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: So it's it's more China is the biggest benefactor that 53 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: straight followed closely by Indians, so many others. I mean, 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: you've got the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and everybody. They 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 5: have a lot at stake there in their direct neighbors, 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: so you know. 57 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: The market seemed like he was pretty fired up about 58 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: the news of it opening up because last night at 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: eight o'clock, once the story broke, ceasefire, like, the price 60 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: of oil per barrel went way down. 61 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: Noah, it didn't look like that. When I went to pump. 62 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 5: You always hate when your pump cuts off automatically one 63 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: hundred dollars, you know, whether you're full or not. Is like, 64 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 5: you know, that's a bittersweet feeling, like okay, a't at 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 5: least it's the bleeding stop. But you know, I really 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 5: look to you know, if things are gonna go well there, 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: we need those immediate neighbors that benefit from the most UAE, 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and all them to actually actively participate 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 5: with the United States in That's. 70 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: Trump's whole point, isn't it. Okay, we're going to do 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: the lions share, We're going to do the heavy lifting. 72 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: But after that, all right, we're just gonna leave it 73 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: to you guys. 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: Over here on a surface. 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: On a surface, it doesn't make any sense that China 76 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: would vote against it, consider they're the biggest benefactor. 77 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: That's straight. 78 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: But China is notoriously for centuries pun intended with this. 79 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 5: They play the long game and this gives them a 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: lot of strategic leverage by playing it this way, even 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: though it's going to hurt them in the short term. 82 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: Long term, if they can get more influence in that area, 83 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 5: that is going to be very advantageous for them. So 84 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: I want Trump to keep leaning in on them to 85 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 5: be a partner on this. They need to be a 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 5: partner on this. They need to help and the you 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: know again, I mean everybody, everybody is in front of 88 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: us on the benefits of this straight. I mean we 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 5: I know, we get a lot of oil for them 90 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: adtle least, but we don't get a lot coming through 91 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: that area. 92 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: We don't. 93 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: And let's be honest. Saturday is a long ass time away. 94 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: That's when the big meeting is supposed to take place. 95 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: US leaders, Iran leaders. It's in Pakistan between now and Saturday. 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: I you know, we said this earlier in the show. 97 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: Don't think for a minute that Iran isn't going to 98 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: at least think about getting squirrely with this. 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 4: Well, we have it on both sides. 100 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 5: I am definitely, oh ben on Ray, I am not 101 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: anti Israel at all. 102 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: You know, they are our friends. 103 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: We should support them, we have supported them. But at 104 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: the same time, they're going to bring a little squirrely 105 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: factor to the table too. They are they are, you know, 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: and I'm just I am holding out hope that you know, 107 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: I mean, that's all that's straight. 108 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: People don't stand. 109 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: You don't need big military weaponry and firepower and everything 110 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 5: to actually do something on their behalf stupid along there. 111 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: You could do small offer that thing at some points 112 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: barely twenty miles wide, they could pull up and do whatever. 113 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 5: We absolutely decimated their naval capabilities, but they could do 114 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: small boat activity there and make a significant impact on 115 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 5: shipping through there and then on the other So I'm 116 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 5: hoping that Iran holds true to this truce and doesn't 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 5: do any of that. And if they do, like I said, 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: those those neighboring countries need to step in, not just 119 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 5: US and US alone, and us not even us first. 120 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: But with that saida their site, you know, Israel, I 121 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 5: understand why they are. 122 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: So they want Iran gone. 123 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: They have been. 124 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: They have been attacked by Iran and Iran proxies for decades, 125 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 5: over and over and over. So the straw, so they're 126 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 5: all in now with that. We need cooler heads to prevail. 127 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 5: We need, you know, the US to be the pragmatic 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 5: aspect of just say, hey, you guys, while we have 129 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 5: this going on, please don't mess this up for us. 130 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: We're trying to get something done. Stand down. We need 131 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 5: you to stand down. We need you to stop throwing 132 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 5: punches for at least two weeks unless they violate, and 133 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: then you need to work with us. Last time I checked, 134 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: all your armament comes from US anyway, and you've lobbed 135 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff that direction. So don't don't make 136 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: us have to cut it off, because then you're going 137 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 5: to be in a worse situation than you were before 138 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 5: this started. So Iran needs to follow the US, or 139 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 5: excuse me, Israel needs to follow US's lead right now 140 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: and fall in line with this whole process, or it's 141 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: going to derail the whole thing. 142 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: Brian Alvi joining us talking the lightest military headlines coming 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: out of this US Iran situation. Let's go back to 144 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: the weekend here when the news broke that fighter pilot, 145 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: the weapons analyst that it ejected, was found after about 146 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: two days of hiding and running in escaping seer training 147 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 2: baby in enemy territory. You have been overseas, Clearly walk 148 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: me through what it's like. What the training is like 149 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: for somebody that's in a position like this. 150 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 5: Well, all of our US pilots have gone to some 151 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: degree of a of a level of a seer training, 152 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: which stands for survival, evasion, resistance, escape. It's training to say, 153 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: here's how to not be a pow camp. Basically, you 154 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 5: know how to run gun duck, dodge of weave. You 155 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 5: know if you dodge a ranch, you can dog dodge treni. 156 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: But so obviously this pilot's training paid off. You're trematous 157 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: in the intestinal fortitude to be that pilot in the 158 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: first place. 159 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: Then to do what he did, I mean, there's so much. 160 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: And I know it's a different area, but the training 161 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: is intense, right, Like you have that training, there's level raining, but. 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 5: He's been to if you're a fighter pilot, you've been 163 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: to a significant level of seer training. And for his 164 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: ability to do that, but then for us to do 165 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 5: everything we can to go get him. I think that's 166 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: a testament to what we all stand for. We don't 167 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: leave anybody behind, dead or alive. 168 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: It's not just a slogan. 169 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 5: People believe that we don't leave that's that's how you 170 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: get guys to fight. You'll never get an American fighter 171 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: to fight if he knows that, hey, not only well 172 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 5: you might leave me behind, you're gonna leave my buddy behind. 173 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: So that that is that is a hard and fast 174 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: rule with our our armed forces, and we just proved 175 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: it again. We don't leave anybody. 176 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: A hundred like. 177 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: Over one hundred Special Forces involved. 178 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 5: So Special Operations obviously pulled that off. They're they're different 179 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: organization from Air Force pj's combat Controllers to Delta CAG 180 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: whatever you want to call them. A special part I 181 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 5: think there were seals involved. There was a joint Special 182 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 5: Operations uh mission, and they killed it on They did 183 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 5: a great job. 184 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: They got him out. 185 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 186 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: And it's just and and that's where and there's. 187 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: A there's a defin the difference when I when I 188 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: say I don't want any boots on the ground over it, 189 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: you're an idiot if you don't think they're special operations, 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: boots on the ground. I'm talking conventional occupying forces, boots 191 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 5: on the ground, repeating the Iraq in Afghan two decade 192 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 5: long building. Yeah whatever, coin operations because you know, we 193 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 5: learned in high school you can't buy your friends, but 194 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 5: we try to do it anyway anyway. 195 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: But what they did was we call like though, like, 196 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: if you're one of these guys, if you're the seal 197 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: or one of these special ops, guys, are you just 198 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: sitting around waiting for that phone to ring and is 199 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: it as simple off? 200 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: Is it go time? Or were they already there? 201 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 4: They're already in place. They're already in place. 202 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: They rotate, there's guys there in country ready, you know 203 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: q r f RF Quick reaction ready reaction forces are 204 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: ready to go. They were, they were locked cocked and 205 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: ready to rock. But when they got when they got 206 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: the green light, so it wasn't like it wasn't Charlie 207 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: Sheen sitting back here in the middle of a wedding 208 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 5: and his pager goes off. 209 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I mean, we we have we have, 210 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 4: we have amazing. 211 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: Warriors all over this country ready to go do harm 212 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: to bad people that wish to do our nation arm 213 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 5: so and they nailed it. 214 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: The guy did he have like some sort of beacons, 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: some sort of signal to kind of let. 216 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 5: Assumed, So I don't, I know, I haven't I have 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 5: you know, I wasn't in the debrief. I'm expired and 218 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: retired what everyone call it. But yeah, I'm sure he 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: had something along the lines. I mean, the technology that 220 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 5: we have today is light years past where I was 221 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: just over a little over a decade ago when I 222 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 5: was in Wow. 223 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm I'm assuming that's how they have. 224 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: But with that said, they also have the capability to 225 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 5: accomplish that mission, both the pilot and those that went 226 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 5: to recover him without all of that. 227 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: So the trade, the. 228 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 5: Trade, they have the O S word, right, they. 229 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: Have the O S factor. 230 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: Scenarios of everything where we take it back down to 231 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 5: you know, sticks and rocks. 232 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: Tell us where we can find the podcast. 233 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: Podcast though those ash Holes that's one word a s 234 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 5: H H O L Yes, not make sure you put 235 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 5: the h uh those those ash Holes is on YouTube, 236 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 5: but we're also on Facebook and Instagram. It's you and 237 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 5: Jerry Talks Jerry Lopez. 238 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, two two two vets that. 239 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 5: We we were on the phone today pondering and pontificating 240 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 5: with one another about this and of course what because 241 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 5: it's what we do. 242 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: We talked over each other the entire time. 243 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: But if you can, if you could decipher through him 244 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: and I getting excited and talking over each other, you'll 245 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 5: enjoy our podcast. 246 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: So appreciate it. 247 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: Brother Brian Alvi joining us, talking all things military with 248 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: the US and Iran.