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Speaker 2: So there are fifty three House Democrats who have co

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Speaker 9: Every single tool, including the power of the purse, to

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Speaker 1: She's acting like it's ISIS. I mean that speech should

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Speaker 2: These are government employees.

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Speaker 3: They just let it go.

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Speaker 1: And they say, I get that I get abused financially

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Speaker 2: This tough task for many of them. The ICE agents

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Speaker 3: I don't know why anybody, criminals, anybody want to do it. Protesters,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, politicians.

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Speaker 2: It is the Kendall and Casey Show.

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Speaker 3: It's ninety three WIBC. Hey, honest, Jud's front jewn you

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Speaker 1: Star, amongst others recordings, John Mellencamp will be hitting the

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Speaker 1: road this summer. Yes, Indiana, Central Indiana be one of

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Speaker 2: What's he gonna do nineteen nineteen shows, Yeah, nineteen shows,

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Speaker 2: and this is going to be a greatest Hits tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so none of those bathroom break songs. Yeah, none

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Speaker 1: this show, Troy Kennett, keyboard player for Mellencamp once clarified

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Speaker 1: a great debate right for us on this program about

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Speaker 1: what Mellencamp was actually saying, if he indeed was saying

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Speaker 2: So he announced this in a I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: Tour, So your opportunity July eighteenth, John Mellencamp will be

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Speaker 1: uh will be at Ruff. Tickets go on sale January

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Speaker 3: It looks like, according to the Indianapolis Star.

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Speaker 2: Says that he's going to be playing all of his

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Speaker 2: greatest hits like Hurts So Good and Pink houses in

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Speaker 3: Okay, so by were a good show.

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Speaker 1: If I were to say, the signature song for John

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Speaker 3: So well, oh gosh, you've already failed the test. Jack

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Speaker 1: Jag and Dianne, pink House, a small town. And it

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Speaker 1: probably depends on where you're at, right, because I think

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Speaker 1: maybe in Indiana may be small and may be indeed

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Speaker 1: small town.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, you know our art well. My theory is.

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Speaker 1: If you have three hits, like three legitimate hits, you're

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Like how many does he have? I

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Speaker 1: mean you think about.

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Speaker 3: That over and over. The Hurts So Good Rocking in

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Speaker 3: the USA, the Authority.

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Speaker 2: Song Partial to check it out?

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Speaker 1: Right, I Mean, there's this just endless amounts over over

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Speaker 1: decades of hits at this guy who, while look, some

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Speaker 1: of his personal antics have enraged or alienated certain members

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Speaker 1: of a potential customer base, the ability of Mellencamp, and

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Speaker 1: I've always I've always said this that Mellencamp's songwriting ability,

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Speaker 1: the genius of it lies. And there's like one or

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Speaker 1: two lines in these great Mellencamp songs where you just

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Speaker 1: hear it and you go that spell bindingly good because

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Speaker 1: the accuracy and the reality that it captures is off

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Speaker 1: the charge and like you know, like in Pink Houses,

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Speaker 1: where it's you know, they said when he's younger, so

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Speaker 1: much younger, boy, you are gonna be the president. And

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Speaker 1: then there's like this quick pause and then it goes.

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Speaker 1: But just like everything else, those old crazy dreams just

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Speaker 1: kind of came and went.

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Speaker 3: Right, like that's your life, right.

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Speaker 1: The reality of living is when you're young, the world

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Speaker 1: is wide in front of us, right, I can do anything,

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Speaker 1: and any ambition is there for the taking. And then

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Speaker 1: the reality of living at some point just keeps constricting

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Speaker 1: those dreams down to win.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you don't touch any of your dreams.

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Speaker 2: So it's called the Dancing Words Tour the Greatest Hits,

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Speaker 2: and the interesting thing it kicks off in grand rapids.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you could see.

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Speaker 2: Him in multiple places in the Midwest. The interesting thing

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Speaker 2: about this tour He's got a lot of locations around

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Speaker 2: the Midwest, Michigan, Illinois, Missouri, here in Indiana, a couple

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Speaker 2: stops in Ohio, and then he does some stops on

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Speaker 2: the East coast, New Jersey, New York, Virginia, and really

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Speaker 2: just skips over a lot of the country and is

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Speaker 2: doing one stop in Arizona, two in California, but for

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Speaker 2: the most part, it's all Midwest and East coast stops.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, one of the great opportunities for

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Speaker 1: you to see and look. I know I've said this before,

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Speaker 1: but Troy Kennett is one of the great musicians in

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Speaker 1: the history of Central Indiana, and you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: see him on stage with Mellencamp playing keys. So I think, Casey,

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Speaker 1: I am tempted. You know, I very rarely go anywhere

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Speaker 1: or do anything. I'm very tempted to actually go to

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Speaker 1: this and go to ruff and see Mellencamp.

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Speaker 2: I would definitely go to this one for sure. It's

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Speaker 2: the greatest Hits tour. Kea Mellencamp seventy four years old.

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Speaker 1: keV, you want to go get super liquored up with

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Speaker 1: me and Casey and go to Ruoff and make up

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Speaker 1: asses out of herself on the lawn.

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Speaker 7: I'll consider it.

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Speaker 3: Just to say how much the tickets are?

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Speaker 8: Do we know?

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Speaker 3: Well, they're priceless and money is no object to you.

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Speaker 2: It's true, that's true. A night out with Rob Kendall

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Speaker 2: that would be priceless. Well, they do go on sale Friday,

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Speaker 2: January twenty third. You said ten am right, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: ten am okay.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to buy a ticket online.

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Speaker 1: So you'll have to show me how that operates.

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Speaker 3: You have to get your wife.

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Speaker 2: On that one, won't you.

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Speaker 3: Honey? What do I do? How does this work? What

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Speaker 3: else are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: By the way, coming up next? I guess we'll go

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Speaker 1: ahead and tease this. You don't want to stick around.

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Speaker 1: So a duel is going to be with us, and

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Speaker 1: he set it on State House Happenings, which will be

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Speaker 1: going live here as soon as we get done with

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Speaker 1: the program today.

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Speaker 3: So it's something he is claiming that.

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Speaker 1: Diego Morales, Secretary of State for the State of Indiana,

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Speaker 1: is under a grand jury investigation. Now, he was spot

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Speaker 1: on with the beckwith stuff, and he was one of

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Speaker 1: the first to say it with that, So we'll get

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Speaker 1: into that coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Well I can see him now.

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Speaker 1: Diego is going to be heading to some some Motor

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Speaker 1: Vehicle Advisory Board lunch screaming about it. But stick around

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Speaker 1: so ab Duel will be giving us the detail on

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Speaker 1: that coming up here in just moment.

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Speaker 3: What else do you do?

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Speaker 2: You want to go down memory lane really quick?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, depends on I've got a lot of horrible memories,

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Speaker 1: but I've got to go down memory lane.

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Speaker 3: This is a year ago.

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Speaker 2: This is when Governor Braun gave his first State of

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Speaker 2: the State address. Of course he's got one tonight starting

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Speaker 2: at seven thirty. You can hear it right here on WIBC.

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Speaker 2: And then you've got the response, which is slated around

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Speaker 2: eight point fifteen. And then the response to the response.

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Speaker 1: By the way that happened, you know, if the Democrats

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Speaker 1: really wanted because who's giving the response for the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: You've got Senate Minority Leader Shelley Yoder and also the

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Speaker 2: House Minority Leader Phil gen Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be as entertaining as paint. Nobody

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Speaker 1: there's going to clip that or anything else.

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Speaker 2: Got Bray and hughest to doing the response to the response.

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Speaker 1: What they should have done if they really wanted all

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Speaker 1: sorts of publicity and headlines. Was like, Kendall and Casey,

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Speaker 1: give the response to bronze state of the State.

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Speaker 7: We'll do that tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean think.

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Speaker 3: About the Democrats and doors.

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Speaker 1: Look, our people are rotten and awful and they're not

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Speaker 1: going to give us any publicity.

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Speaker 3: Let's put these two out there. Well, let's see how

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Speaker 3: much of.

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Speaker 2: This week can get through into until Abdul joins us.

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Speaker 2: But memory Lane, this is how your governor said he

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Speaker 2: was going to fix property taxes a year ago.

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Speaker 8: My plan is built on three priorities. Cut property taxes

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Speaker 8: for who's your families, especially new homeowners and seniors, the

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Speaker 8: most vulnerable for not being able to pay that big increase,

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Speaker 8: cap the annual increase, to protect homeowners, farmers, and businesses.

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Speaker 8: And reform this system through transparency. And when you talk

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Speaker 8: about a cap, I'm not asking for something terribly difficult.

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Speaker 8: It's a cap that would probably never even reach the

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Speaker 8: amount of economic growth that we experience when it's a

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Speaker 8: robust economy. So there's plenty of room there to make

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Speaker 8: sure that we exercise good judgment and don't be overbearing

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Speaker 8: to the taxpayer. Have an impact on local governments, and

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Speaker 8: I realize that, but taxpayers are struggling and we have

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Speaker 8: to put their needs first.

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Speaker 7: Just like the.

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Speaker 8: Example I set with my budget proposal, all governments need

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Speaker 8: to do more with a little less. We will continue

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Speaker 8: to have important discussions with local governments school boards about

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Speaker 8: how to protect vital services.

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Speaker 3: Like police, fire and schools.

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Speaker 8: But believe me, if we run this place, well, we're

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Speaker 8: going to be able to find it served on a

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Speaker 8: school board for ten years. I know how important that

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Speaker 8: is in each one of our communities.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm going up all over myself if we

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Speaker 1: have to hear that guy's voice anywhere. I believe Casey,

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Speaker 1: it was the group Lincoln Park who said it best.

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Speaker 1: I tried so hard and got so far, But in

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Speaker 1: the end it doesn't even matter, because all that happened

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Speaker 1: as a result of this bill is collectively, your taxes

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Speaker 1: are going to go up. I missed in there where

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Speaker 1: he mentioned to offset any sort of meaningless property tax. Really,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to get I'm going to allow the

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Speaker 1: income tax to go up. Sure did he say that

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Speaker 1: later in the speech? Did we just cut him off

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Speaker 1: too early?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: Oh, he did not say that.

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Speaker 1: He was to come up with that idea afterwards because

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Speaker 1: I missed that one.

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Speaker 2: Somebody, somebody came up with that idea. Okay, okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: Abdullah is going to join us.

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Speaker 3: Coming up, he's going to drop a bomb of news,

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Speaker 3: so he's claiming, So he's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna he's going to say that, uh Diego Morales, the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State is under a grand jury investigation. So

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Speaker 1: we will have all the details for that. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: it is Kendall and Casey.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three w ib C.

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Speaker 7: He's kind of cave.

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Speaker 8: You and me something s.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's about to break some news with

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Speaker 1: us today based on what we did.

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Speaker 3: On State House Happening. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 7: I'm Rob Casey's here.

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Speaker 3: It's getting the CAZy show.

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Speaker 1: He's an aud three, he's a broadcaster, he's a provocateur.

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Speaker 1: Indie Politics dot Org is the website of DULA keeps

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Speaker 1: You bas Hello.

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Speaker 7: Hello, my friend. How's it going this morning?

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Speaker 1: So we're in the middle of recording our State House

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Speaker 1: Happenings program. Podcasts will be up later today our Sunday

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Speaker 1: Mornings on WIBC. And you just casually tossed out I

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Speaker 1: claim that Diego Morales, Secretary of State of the State

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Speaker 1: of Indiana, is under grand jury investigation.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: That was my stacked response.

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Speaker 1: Wait in the middle of the show, he just throws

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Speaker 1: it out there casually.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Meanwhile back in the whole of justice. Yeah, my

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Speaker 7: very reliable sources have informed me that Diego Morales is

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Speaker 7: under his office has been looked at a grand jury

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Speaker 7: for possible mixing government and politics together. It sims from

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Speaker 7: an online ad that Diego Morales did earlier this year,

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Speaker 7: or I would say last summer. I think it was

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Speaker 7: where you talked about voting and he was in a

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Speaker 7: voting center, you know, taking pictures and greeting the voting workers.

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Speaker 3: This was in Marion County, right in Marion County. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And they told.

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Speaker 1: Him because that ad popped up was an online ad,

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Speaker 1: right right, I'm trying to remember this, and they told

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Speaker 1: him Kate Sweeney Bell, right, she's the clerk. She told him, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're filming my office in my workers you were there

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Speaker 1: as the official Secretary of State of overseeing election stuff.

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Speaker 1: Take that ad down. We don't want to be in

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Speaker 1: your ad. Don't use government stuff in the ad. And

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Speaker 1: then as I recall it didn't take it down.

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Speaker 7: No, I want to say he left it up there,

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Speaker 7: and so I want to say a grand jury is

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Speaker 7: looking at the possible mixing of government on political which

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Speaker 7: you're kind of not supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: I thought there was a difference though, because that ran

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Speaker 2: online only that the rules and regulations are different than broadcasts.

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Speaker 3: No, now that's stuff like with disclaimers and things.

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Speaker 7: I think, yeah, disclaim that counts for disclaimers, but you

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Speaker 7: can't use you can't use government self for political purposes,

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Speaker 7: regardless whether it's online, print, broadcast, whatever.

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Speaker 1: There's And I think the bigger deal if indeed you're

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Speaker 1: right about this, which that's a huge story if it's true,

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Speaker 1: but the bigger deal would be that they everybody makes mistakes, right,

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Speaker 1: like I didn't realize this whatever, Thank you for bringing attention.

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Speaker 1: They told him very nicely, Hey, please take that down.

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Speaker 1: We're working here, Our people are working here. Because the

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Speaker 1: deal is, if you're some person just wants to administer

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Speaker 1: the elections, you don't want to be subjected to being

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Speaker 1: in some guys out if you don't agree with them,

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Speaker 1: because you're they're doing your government.

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Speaker 7: Work, you use it nine out ten times, the married

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Speaker 7: kindty election board and all kind of election boards. If

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Speaker 7: someone makes a mistake, like hey, you mess us up?

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Speaker 7: Could you fix it? When I ran from ayor we

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Speaker 7: forgot to do something with our expenditures in kind contributions,

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Speaker 7: let me know. So we fixed that father report and

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Speaker 7: we were done in all good much of dismay of

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Speaker 7: the ball of crazy people out there. So with diego,

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Speaker 7: you're right, case we need to be like, hey, miss Morales,

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Speaker 7: your thing is wrong. Take it down or that take

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Speaker 7: that ad out, take that part of the add out

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Speaker 7: or edit, do something. But you can't run this ad

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Speaker 7: as is right, and the best of my knowledge, Jaco

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Speaker 7: Morales ever did it. So therefore a grand jury is

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Speaker 7: looking at that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And you were just so calm about it, like just

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the program.

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Speaker 2: This is coming out of the Mary County Prosecutor's office.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So there you go.

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Speaker 7: There they would have jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: There's your grenade for the day from Abduel, And if

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Speaker 1: you're mad about it or think he's wrong, take it

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Speaker 1: up with Abduel.

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Speaker 3: He's the one saying it.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 3: So the state of the state is tonight.

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Speaker 1: We obviously talked about it at link with Merrett earlier

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Speaker 1: in the program.

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Speaker 3: Does Braun what can he do? Give it?

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Speaker 1: How he made everybody mad last year, the property tax thing,

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Speaker 1: colossal disaster, utility bills, disaster data centers, disaster IEDC disaster,

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Speaker 1: and then he went and pissed all the senators off

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Speaker 1: during redistricting, or a whole bunch of the senators.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, what can he do tonight?

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Speaker 7: If I were Mike Braun, I've been I would start

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Speaker 7: with Mike bron twenty twenty six apology tour.

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Speaker 1: Oh, like, hey, guy, would you like to bet on

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Speaker 1: the odds of that happening?

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Speaker 7: I would say, I would say, Hey, we had some successes,

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Speaker 7: we had some failures. I've learned a lot, but I

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Speaker 7: think we've all learned a lot. You know, new administration,

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Speaker 7: there's plenty of there's plenty opportunity for it. There's plenty

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Speaker 7: of opportunity for for greatness and also for mistakes. I

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Speaker 7: think we had enough of our share of mistakes. Now

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Speaker 7: let's focus on rebuilding opportunities. Let's do X Y Z.

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Speaker 7: It's how do you say I'm sorry? We're not necessarily

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Speaker 7: saying I'm sorry because right now the governor's agenda in

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Speaker 7: the Senate is dead. He's not getting a darn thing

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Speaker 7: if they can help it right now, because they're ticked

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Speaker 7: off at primary challenges. With the numbnusser still top, I'm

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Speaker 7: following primary.

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Speaker 1: You wrought about this in the cheat sheet that they

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Speaker 1: are stayed by day. It's not just as he's turning

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Speaker 1: point USA people. Braun and his people are allegedly involved

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Speaker 1: in recruiting these people.

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Speaker 7: Yes, they are. U. It's Ron Alte, Richard Baxby. I'm

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Speaker 7: looking to run somebody against Travis Holman, you know, the

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Speaker 7: guy who's got to sign your tax bill, your tax

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Speaker 7: fiscal policy, that whole thing. That guy. Yeah. Have I

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Speaker 7: run primary challenge against Peggy Mayfield Rod Bray the Senate

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Speaker 7: president Protamia though ride isn't up until twenty that's right,

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Speaker 7: twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Someone should let them know that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But I think the argument is they think that they

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Speaker 7: can win enough contested races that they could move to

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Speaker 7: have Rock removed as as president.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't help you now though, no, he's still in charge, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was curious last year in his state of

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Speaker 2: the stay, he was addressing the legislative body and people

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Speaker 2: who were watching taxpayers this time.

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Speaker 3: Who's he going to be talking to the most?

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Speaker 7: I'll probably say, you've probably talking to the Senate the

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Speaker 7: most right now, Yeah, because that's because that's where he's

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Speaker 7: got the most issues of the most most troubled. The

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Speaker 7: House site not so much. I mean, granted, reducing past

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Speaker 7: sixty seven thirty one, but I would argue a lot

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Speaker 7: of those, all those votes in the sixty seven where

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Speaker 7: people who knew it wasn't going to pass anyway, so

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Speaker 7: I could vote for the way, I got my ass covered.

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Speaker 7: From this perspective, then it dies like, hey, well I

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Speaker 7: voted for it. I tried. So Magane runs about normanta

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Speaker 7: primary challenger against me.

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Speaker 1: A couple of minutes left with a duel Haquem Shabaz

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Speaker 1: again the big story in cause you're just tuning in.

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Speaker 1: He says that the office of Diego Morales under a

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Speaker 1: grand jury investigation related to an ad last year that

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Speaker 1: featured the elections in Marion County and whether that was

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Speaker 1: legal or not. Real quick we got into this on

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Speaker 1: state House happenings. There are multiple bills to consolidate township government,

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Speaker 1: get rid of township government. They're competing bills right now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so exhausted about talking about this because it

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Speaker 1: seems like we've been at this for twenty years now,

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Speaker 1: because we have and nothing ever happens with this, even

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Speaker 1: though we have a layer of government that was literally

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Speaker 1: set up and designed and is still collecting huge sums

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Speaker 1: of money when people work traveling by horse.

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Speaker 7: Yes, why and here's why. I think township government reform

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Speaker 7: will actually probably happened this time as opposed to last time.

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Speaker 7: Hope it is because now you've got don ONLD, you

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Speaker 7: have property tax caps in there, you got cendebill one

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Speaker 7: uh and there too, which basically rewrites the whole proper

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Speaker 7: text system here in city of Indiana. And it's one

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Speaker 7: thing to help schools a little bit more money. It's

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Speaker 7: nothing to help Misspius with a little bit more money.

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Speaker 7: But townshow government o't see township government getting a thing

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Speaker 7: as of today. So it's basically okay, you won't go away,

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Speaker 7: We'll just starve the beast then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, find him over at indiepolitics dot org.

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Speaker 3: Doll keep shabaz.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you, and that's going to do it

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Speaker 7: for us today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob, Thanks Kevin, and mostly Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC