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A lot to 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: get to. 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Jim Marrett thirty years Indiana Senate joins us now Jimmyrot Hello, 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Hello Robert. This year it seems like it's blown by. 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: It has, but you know, there are times we were 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 4: worried that we wouldn't have anything to talk about during 41 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: the summertime, and it's content menia. 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Every year we sit here and go, what are we 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: going to talk about after the session? What are we 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: going to do? And every year it seems like these 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: lawmakers get there's more drama out of the session than 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: in the session. 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 5: And it's not just the lawmakers. Yeah, it's politics in general. 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So obviously we start the year from Indiana politics 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: and government with a new governor and a new lieutenant governor. 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: There's so much hope about them, and it's kind of 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: been a dud. 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 5: Well. 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: I think that when you look back on it, you 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: and I I love to disagree with you, yes, because 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: that's that's the part of the job that I really 56 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 4: enjoy and and the governor I think deserves a lot 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: of credit to raising the idea, the vision of the 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: future of energy in the state of Indiana. And I 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: think I think looking back, twenty twenty five will be 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: that will be the time we have really leaped forward 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: and we'll start to grow Indiana again. 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so the big issue they come out and we'll 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: get to energy a second, because you're right, that is 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: a major issue, but he put off. He being braun, 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: put all his eggs in the property tax basket. And 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: I think most people think he not only didn't address 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: it, it ended up being worse. 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: Well, our listeners saw probably a lot of them participated 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: in your rally, which had a thousand people in the 70 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 4: state House. And I'm here to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: that's a lot of people. 72 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 5: And for the one. 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: Hundred and fifty legislators to not stare them down but 74 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: make them feel welcome. And the state House is kind 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: of working museum. 76 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we didn't touch anything. 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: No, you didn't, but you did occupy the north part 78 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: of the state House and it was very impressive. The 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: governor makes an appearance, rolls up his sleeves and speaks 80 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: your language, Robert, and uh, and I. 81 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: Mean you're You're never gonna say. 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: I mean, look, he I think that is what's so 83 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: fascinating to me is because you're right. 84 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: He comes to this event, he comes around the corner. 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: I think he thinks, oh, there's gonna be like, you know, 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: maybe a couple hundred people there, and I'll give a 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: quick hey and then leave. 88 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: And he sees all. 89 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: These people and they're going bonkers, and you know, all 90 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: the people are speaking. 91 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: And you've got some representatives there. 92 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the local government people and hammers 93 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: doing the thing. And I think he got caught up 94 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: in the moment. We're thought, well, these people are here 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: for me. I'm gonna give them what they want. But 96 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: the problem is, and you know this, then you got 97 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: to cash that check. And he wrote that check that 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: day with his mouth and it was downhill from there. 99 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 5: Yeah. 100 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: It Cena Bill one is royaling local governments. And I 101 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 4: hope that when the legislature comes back into session in January, uh, 102 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: they they tweak that law and make it simpler and 103 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: easier to govern in the locales, because right now is 104 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: very different, dificult Robert to grow community. 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: Are you surprised he didn't just veto it and call 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: special session? 107 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: Yes, I I am, And and you know I think 108 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 4: what I think what really got confusing and really uh 109 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: it was a it was a blizzard of information and 110 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: and you know you have the issue with the budget 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: and and the economic forecast that that uh that everything 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: was coming down from the skies and and you had 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: the market, you had taxes might have been raised in Washington. 114 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 5: You had tariffs. 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: And and uh and we've spoken that nausea and about this, 116 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: but but the legislature and the governor plowed. 117 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: Through uh and and uh uh. 118 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: Raised taxes on tobacco for medic medicaid and uh and 119 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: the property tax issue Center Bill one kind of got 120 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: mixed up in the middle of that, and there's just 121 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: a lot of chaos at the state House in April 122 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: last year. 123 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a real learning experience for me because 124 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: uh you yeah, well, you know, we'll get to that 125 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: in a second, because it's playing out again right in 126 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: front of us as we aired this program with redistricting. 127 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: But you if you're gonna move the legislature when because 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: let's face it, we had stiff opposition in terms of 129 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: the school districts, and we were up against every local 130 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: government in the state. It was the people the local government. 131 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: And if you're gonna move the legislature on something where 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: the local governments are pushing against them, you can't just 133 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: say here's thirty thousand people. You got to secause they're gonna say, well, 134 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: bunch of these people are Indianapolis, or they're Brownsburg, or 135 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: they're and if I'm in Kokomo. I'm a center in Coke. 136 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't care what that person says. You got to 137 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: really organize better in terms of you gotta have almost 138 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: like a widespread yeah support, But you gotta like, like 139 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: in those districts, you can't just shoot the pellet out 140 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: and go okay, you gotta have the sniper rifle. Of 141 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: these people live in my district. And you know, we'd 142 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: have been better off trying to spend our time one 143 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: hundred people in this district, one hundred people in this district. 144 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: And and I just like I learned from that to go, 145 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: here's how you actually move these guys if you're gonna 146 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: do something big going part although I don't know in 147 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: the property text thing, I'm not sure would have made 148 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: a difference. 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: Well, Robert, you're one of the very few people that 150 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: really understands the property tax system. Yes, and and and 151 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: it's a very complex system. And if it could have 152 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: been fixed, it would have been fixed a long long 153 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: time ago. And and you know, it goes back to 154 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: when when when I was in the in the Senate 155 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: in two thousand and seven and eight and nine, where 156 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: we were trying to fix it and we fixed uh, 157 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: you know, the one two three percent, but we did 158 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: not fix the assessment, you know, the subjective part of 159 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: the property taxation system. And uh and and and and 160 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: we have lived, I have lived to regret that over 161 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: the last fifteen or seventeen years. And and it's it's 162 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: going to have to take some sort of you know, 163 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: crisis of magnitude now because you did the rally, h 164 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: it was impressive, and it was probably a little bit 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: uh struck a little fear in some hearts at the 166 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: state House. And and but now it's gonna it's gonna really, 167 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: uh take a momentous effort. And you probably hate to 168 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: hear me say this, but it goes back to RIFRA, 169 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: where it just scared the Jesus out of the legislature. 170 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. Uh and the governor at the time. 171 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: Again its state hous happenings. Rob Kendall Jim Merritt were 172 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: talking about stories were thankful for Yeah, I'm not and 173 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: thankful for the outcome. But the story was great. It's 174 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: great publicity, it's great to great for business. H with 175 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: property text. The other major issue that has emerged now 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: is the cost of energy in the state of Indiana, 177 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: and it appears that we have a state that is 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: scrambling one for an identity as it relates to energy, 179 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: to how they're gonna provide the energy, and three how 180 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: you merge the demand for energy and ASPEC as it 181 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: comes from these data centers with people going I'd like 182 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: to afford to turn my lights on. It's a real mess. 183 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 5: Yes, it is a mess. 184 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: And you know, being on the nominating commit for the 185 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: UH to suggest members that UH that will participate that 186 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: will be appointed on the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission was 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 4: it was a real lesson for me. And and the 188 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: pressure that is happening in southwest Indiana with rates is unconscionable. 189 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: I heard that all the time when people would call 190 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: me and suggest people that that were out of the 191 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: forty seven and then that we did it twenty two 192 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: and now we have nine in the governor stands, three 193 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 4: Democrats and six Republicans that they there is such a 194 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: knowledge out there and and people are starting to understand 195 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: energy rates and and and combine that with you're you're 196 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 4: retiring so many different coal plants and you're buying so 197 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: much energy rather than sourcing it out of Indiana that UH, 198 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: it's it's a spaghetti bowl, and you're right, it's a mess. 199 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: And and uh and and you know how I like 200 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: to talk about nuclear power, but gas, you know, having 201 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: a gas plant that's mobile and that can be at 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 4: the Leap district or wherever. We're going to have economic 203 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 4: development and Google coming to the state meta. You know, 204 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: we we have a prescription where we've got lots of 205 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: things going on. And you often talk about the equip 206 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: which is eighty percent that a user when they build 207 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 4: these they have to pay for eighty percent and then 208 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: the ratepayer has to be twenty. 209 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so just explain to people. 210 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: They passed a bill this year SMR Small Modular Reactors 211 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 2: Nuclear I called the Doctor Frankenstein Bill, in which the 212 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: rate payer these utilities, if they get into these SMRs, 213 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: the rate payer is going to be on the hook 214 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: for eighty percent. 215 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: Of twenty percent. The person who is the developer will 216 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: be on the hook for eighty percent. 217 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, but the rate payer 218 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: is going to be that's a sizeable amount of mind 219 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: on the hook. We're not talking for nine dollars here, right. 220 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: Whether whether it passes or it fails in terms of 221 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 2: whether it comes to the market, and a lot of 222 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: people are going, wait a second, what other business do 223 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: I have to. 224 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: Pay for the R and D whether it works or not? 225 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Right? 226 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 4: And you know, you know, I've talked about this a lot, 227 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: and it's a legitimate question. And what my suggestion is is, 228 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: let's put a small Mandu reactor that can be built 229 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: in Indiana down in Mount Vernon. That can that uh 230 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: that we have water at Crane which is federal land 231 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: that it touches six counties. You can you can put 232 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: a nuke in there that is safe and reliable and green. 233 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 5: And let's start off. 234 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: With you when you don't have not in my backyard, 235 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: and let's demonstrate that you can. 236 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 5: You can. 237 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 4: You can have something that's safe, that is as workable, 238 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: and then you can work on on these different communities 239 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 4: because Indiana won't accept brownouts like California has. 240 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you. 241 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: Probably know Spain and Portugal have gone all solar. They 242 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: went one day this year without electricity because the sun 243 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: wasn't shining well. 244 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: And you've got to there's got to be a plan, right, absolutely, 245 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: this is what we talk about this on the all 246 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: the time on the Kennel Casey Show. There's no plan like, Okay, 247 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 2: we're gonna do these data centers. Well, but what's the benefit. Well, 248 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: they don't tell you, right, they can't give you clear 249 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: answers a lot of times on the water, on the electricity, 250 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: and we're giving them all this money to come here, 251 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: and people are saying, wait, is it a paying for 252 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: these people to come here and they don't really produce jobs. Yeah, 253 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: a lot of assessed value for the community they're gonna 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: be in, but it's abated so you don't get it 255 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: for years and then it's. 256 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: Gonna raise my electric grades, Like what's in it for me? 257 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 3: In the state does not articulated that, right. 258 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: I think the state in the in the coming weeks, 259 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: in the next year is gonna articulated plan. I believe 260 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: they will cite for a small module reactor. And and 261 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: if you look at Tennessee, the state of Tennessee is 262 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: working with Google and they're working with the Tennessee Valley, 263 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: Tennessee Valley of TVA and Talent Tennessee Valley Tennessee Valley 264 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: Authority and. 265 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: Not used with the Harper Valley. 266 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry I stumble over that. And so 267 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: the state is heavily involved with incentives uh To to 268 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: bring power so they can have nuclear power to Tennessee. 269 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 4: And I look for Indiana and have the same sort 270 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 4: of plan. 271 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: Rob Kendall, Jim Meridi program of Stale is Happening is 272 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: taking a look back at some of these. Again, not 273 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: thankful for the outcome, but the story itself that has 274 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: kept us talking throughout the the year. Look, I think 275 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: we got to send some time on this. And that 276 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: is a guy who came in with immense hope and 277 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: optimism that he was going to be different, he was 278 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: going to bring a different view to governor, He's gonna 279 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: make government work different, and he's been a dumpster fire. 280 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: And that's Michael Beck with the lieutenant governor. 281 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm disappointed in the lieutenant governor. 282 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: I think you and I know I did suggested that, 283 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 4: you know, you keep your head down a little bit. 284 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: You preside over the Senate. You put a dark suit 285 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 4: on your senatorial your lieutenant governor. This is a very 286 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: important position. 287 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could you could still have strong opinions 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: on things like property taxes or whatever and just not 289 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: have the shenanigans that go along with the. 290 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 4: And you're on the bron team, you can still be 291 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: Micah beck with but you're on the bron team. 292 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 5: And and and and. 293 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: And good things come. I've seen a lot of lieutenant governors. 294 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: Frank O Bannon was a great lieutenant governor becomes governor. 295 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: And so you know, it's, uh, it's very difficult to understand. 296 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: Uh how Micah who you know, Dear Micah, my friend Micah, you. 297 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: Know you crave publicity. 298 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: And when you get in fights with our friend abdul 299 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: On on Facebook and and and there are so many 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: situations that are so toward and and you're a soldier, 301 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: you're not a general, and and act like it, and 302 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: and and and be senatorial and work with Center Bray 303 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: and and and uh and be there to support, be 304 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: there and support the Senate, be there to support the governor. 305 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: And it's just it's just it's an upset apple cart 306 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: that I'm not sure it's going to be restocked well. 307 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: And you know, when we talk about the scandals, obviously 308 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: front and center is whatever this grand jury is looking into, 309 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, pornography, allegations in the in the office. There's 310 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: allegations of which he is admitted in public, that it's 311 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: going on right that there's an investigation doesn't meaning by anything, doesn't. 312 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: Mean we're not whispering anything, doesn't. 313 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: Mean anybody's gonna be uh convicted. It doesn't mean that 314 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a ditments. It means that that there 315 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: are there's a grand jury, should be top secret documentation 316 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: that they're looking at artificial artificial intelligence, pornography and and 317 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: goes employment in his office and it's like even the 318 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: way he's handled that where he did it was like 319 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: the deflect, to deny, the demean and then oh, yeah, 320 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: I guess it is happening. 321 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: I guess they. I guess they were like, it's just 322 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: like it is all ridiculous, it's. 323 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: Totally unsous and it's it's it's just a it's a 324 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: shame and it's, Uh, you wonder why the Broun people 325 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: don't get momentum because there's something sprouting up from from 326 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: his office on a constant basis, and what an opportunity. 327 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: He had and had is the key word. It's over. 328 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't look at to him be the lieutenant 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: governor in twenty eight twenty nine. 330 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Well, on the other side of it is if he 331 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: had just done what he campaigned on as bad as 332 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: Braun's looking right now. He could be a primary challenger 333 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: to Braun. He could be the front and center potentially, 334 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: as mad as people are with Braun not saying he 335 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: would Yeah, I say he could win. 336 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: He had me on his bro his podcast a little 337 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: while ago, that's the right, some silly name and that well, 338 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: we had a good time, and I just looked him 339 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: straight in the eye and go, you know, you and 340 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: Diego and Roketa, none of. 341 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: You could win a primary. 342 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you're great at the convention, but winning 343 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: a primary for those three is not gonna happen. 344 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim, Rob Kendall State Hoo's happening is our program 345 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: take a look at some of the bigger stories of 346 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five thus far. Okay, then obviously it brings 347 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: us to today where we're at, which is all the 348 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: fight is over redistricting. You and I both agree this 349 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: is the dumbest thing ever. It's we've wasted all this 350 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: time in political capital and ever and all the other stuff. 351 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: And Braun still at least as of this recording, candidly 352 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: we're putting it together uh Friday before Thanksgiving, but he 353 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: appears still not only short, but very short on his 354 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: votes to get this thing through the Senate by some 355 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: time in December, and. 356 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: Just think about everything that's going on and stay government. 357 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: Uh and they they they they've passed the Spartan bill. 358 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: The governor signed it. He started letting people go. Uh 359 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: and and and we haven't heard any I think the 360 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 4: economy is in pretty good shape in Indiana, but we 361 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 4: haven't heard anything out of the governor governor's administration on 362 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: how how the benefits of laying people off are. And 363 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: so it the the idea of redistricting. And and as 364 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 4: you know, I'm a I'm a member of the establishment, 365 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: proudly like a batch of honor. I do, I do, 366 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: and I respect the Senate. And uh, I worry that 367 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: some of my former members in the Senate. Uh my, 368 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: they're continually I'm a farmer, they're they're a continuous incumbent. 369 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 4: I worry about, uh, the idea of trying to replace 370 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: Sentat Bray at the top. And and uh, they don't 371 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: have the votes. But if they would happen to get 372 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 4: the votes, it may be that Senator Bray turns to 373 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: the Democrats and once once their ten votes to stay 374 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: is as pro tempt well. 375 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: We saw some of this stuff play out with the 376 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: Republicans with the Speaker of the House, yes, you know 377 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: a couple years ago, with all that all that drama. 378 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: It's so weird to me that it's like Braun I 379 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: used the analogy of the Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction. 380 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: I will not be ignored, Dan, And it's like, you 381 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't fight for us on property taxes like this, but 382 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: you'll go to the mat for Donald Trump and he's 383 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: coming up. I'm gonna try to come tell them to 384 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: show up, and I'm gonna support the new leadership and uh, 385 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: and and and and primary in these people. And it's like, 386 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: why don't you do this on the other things we've 387 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: been talking about here that actually matter to people. 388 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and you're exactly right. There are a lot 389 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: of things that matter to people that the legislature needs 390 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: to be thinking about. Especially the short session next year 391 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: is going to be in a minute and they're gonna 392 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: be gone because they're running for election and they don't 393 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: want to talk about this anymore. 394 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: But but the. 395 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 4: Whole thing here is that, uh, these two speaker and 396 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: the President pro tem of the Senate are are not 397 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: battle warm, but they are battle ready. They had to 398 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: deal with Governor Holcomb's seventy executive orders during COVID, and 399 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: they had to. 400 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 5: Do deal with it with smile. 401 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: They could, they could register their complaint in two A 402 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: six room to A six and Governor's office and and 403 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 4: there and just watching their body language. The other day 404 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: when I was at the State House, which was a 405 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 4: very sad place, ladies and gentlemen, there's a pall over 406 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 4: the place. 407 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 5: Which I don't like. But they are battled ready and they're. 408 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: Going to do what they need to do to get 409 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 4: a session going in twenty twenty six, and I think 410 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: they'll be successful with it. 411 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: Rob Kenel, Jim Merrett, Stadou's Happening is our show taking 412 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 2: a look back at some of the stories we're thankful 413 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: for in twenty twenty five. 414 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: I want to talk about you for a second. 415 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of time to do this 416 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: each week, but you've been out of the Senate now 417 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: for five years, six six years. 418 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: I've walked away or I stepped away in twenty it's 419 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 4: twenty five. Yeah, I'm almost so yeah, five years, long time, Yeah, 420 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: five years, that's exactly right. 421 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 5: I'm thinking twenty six do you like. 422 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: Do you miss it? I still think of you as 423 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: a senator. It's so weird to be like, I still 424 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: think of you as a like when you come in 425 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: and do the show. I always think of Senator Jim 426 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Merritt is here. 427 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 5: Well. 428 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: I appreciate that you know our listeners. I'm sure none 429 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: of you like me being on here because I face 430 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: it face with Rob, and Rob's always right in your mind. 431 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: But but have you no not anymore money, not anymore. 432 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: I I enjoyed participating in it, being bridged, being part 433 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: of the glue, being you know, the the idea of stability, 434 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 4: and uh. I do miss the Senate in regards to 435 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: public policy and and UH and representing constituents. I would 436 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: imagine in this time and age, I either would have 437 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 4: been kicked out of my own caucus or not be 438 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 4: a leader of the caucus because I I I told 439 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: our friend Adam rand the other day. 440 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 5: That that. 441 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: Rod Bray, what two words remind me of him is 442 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 4: steadfast common sense. And that's what I stand for. And 443 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: I really believe that that the Indian Senate and Indiana 444 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: House of Representatives have their squabbles and everything, but at 445 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 4: the end of the day. They're all good people. They 446 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: come to the State House and they do what they 447 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: need to do. And yes, I do miss it. 448 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: And curferently now that you're not there, oh absolutely really yeah. 449 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 4: I I well, you know, back then I was I 450 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: was chairman of the committee, I was chairman of the caucus. 451 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 5: Had a lot of things going on. 452 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: With issues that I that I that I really appreciated 453 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: and worked hard on. But now I can look at 454 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 4: the U I can look at the whole matter. And 455 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 4: and and you know, I've I've always viewed myself as 456 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: a future governor. 457 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 5: That's not going to happen. But but are you that well. 458 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: You're very young by politics standards, anyone under eighty three. 459 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: If I had twenty million to spend. 460 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: But but bottom line is, I look at it through 461 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 4: his lens, and and sometimes I disagree, sometimes I agree, 462 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 4: And and I always felt like when I when I 463 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: stepped away and I think I've done this, I can 464 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: lead outside the limestone. I still think there's a way. 465 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: I enjoy our little joust in our days. 466 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 467 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: And and I'm having a good time. And and so 468 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, what's done is done. Kyle Walker's doing it. 469 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely great job. He's gonna win reelection. He's hopefully being 470 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: protected by local police and I know he is, and 471 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 4: it's something that it's fun to watch. 472 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: We're time to do something different. 473 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 3: We're going to take a break. 474 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 5: I'm doing. 475 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: Is good to join us. 476 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 2: Wrap a final five minutes of the program you're listened 477 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: to State House Happenings. 478 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: One of the most incredible journeys I've witnessed is seeing 479 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, including autism, get the 480 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: care they deserve. It's life changing. 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Now Freedom Foods Indiana has some big things coming. 502 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: We can't wait to tell you all about it in 503 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: the near future. Right now, though, we just want to 504 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: say thanks to our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for 505 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: supporting State House Happenings. 506 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall now Dulaquem Shabaz. 507 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: The program stales abatages a weekly look at what's going 508 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: on with Indiana politics and government. I was hoping we'd 509 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: get to squeeze a few minutes in, because of course 510 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: we're doing the program day on. Things were thankful for, 511 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: stories were thankful for, maybe not the outcomes, but kept us, 512 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: kept us entertained. And I just want to spend a 513 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: few minutes with you. Say, first of all, they were 514 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: very thankful for you abduling your contributions to state House 515 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: happenings each week. 516 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 6: Now I'm very thankful for all my haters who made 517 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 6: me a very rich man. All right, so real quick, 518 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 6: you know, I just a couple of mons we have left. 519 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 6: You've covered state house for twenty years. Has it ever 520 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 6: been like this? 521 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 7: My friend? 522 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: I've covered state houses in Illinois and Indiana since I 523 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 6: was twenty five years old. I have never seen anything 524 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 6: quite like this of the most bizarre rob blogoyevitch day 525 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 6: of my entire life. 526 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, what what has changed? Why is it so rapidly 527 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: so different? Is it social media? Is it the environment? 528 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 6: Like? 529 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: What is Why is it so different? 530 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 6: I think in part of it is social media that 531 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 6: people can go online things, they can say whatever they 532 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 6: want and get away with it. And because for so 533 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 6: long technically we have society we cherish free speech and 534 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 6: so but sometimes I think we let people. I believe 535 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 6: I have the right to free speech but you also 536 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 6: have the right to be held accountable, right, and for 537 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 6: so long we haven't held people accountable for the stupid 538 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 6: things that they say online. Number Two, because of our 539 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 6: primary system, the only way to win now is run 540 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 6: So either furtherest of the right or friends of the 541 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 6: left is where everybody is. And that's because of jerry mandering. Yeah, 542 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 6: because people drawing the safe Democrats, safe Republican. So the 543 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 6: only way to win a primary is to go further 544 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 6: to the right or friends and left. And so you 545 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 6: put all that together and you end up with the 546 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 6: mess that we're in right now. 547 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you do? 548 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 2: You are you surprised to like you're currently in a 549 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: little spat with the lieutenant governor. 550 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 7: And you guess I'm I'm a left wing agitator. 551 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: Well, and this is just ridiculous and and and you 552 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: know you had Roketa, your infamous thing with Roketa that 553 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: was been years ago now. But it's like fighting with 554 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: the media. I think a lot of them, especially guy 555 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: like you. You're willing to tell anybody's story, and it 556 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: just seems like they're picking a fight with a guy 557 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: who you're pretty much like you asked a question. Let 558 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: people answer it and and for some reason. 559 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 5: They just hate you. 560 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: Now it's crazy to me. 561 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 6: It's Todd Rakeda is stake of Morales and Mica beck with, Yeah, 562 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 6: it's a terrible trio because you don't tolerate the bull 563 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 6: craft exactly, or. 564 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 7: At least be friends of mine. They'll tolerate the bull craft. 565 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 7: Be eaux. Actually, I free am it. 566 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 6: I do have a bias bias for people I like, 567 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 6: and why I like it because you play it straight. 568 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 6: I shot traight and can enjoy a good cigar well. 569 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: And this is the thing that I always said about 570 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: I'm duel you and I just grant a whole bunch 571 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: of stuff politically, but we always shoot straight with each other, 572 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: and we tell each other and think you're an idiot 573 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: or acting like an idiot or whatever, and then we 574 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: go about our merry way. But these guys are so 575 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 2: full of it, and they don't understand that that if 576 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: you just stop being full of it, it goes a 577 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: lot better. 578 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 6: And they've also, uh the other thing. I don't think 579 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 6: that's wrong with our politics, and people have personalized it. 580 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 5: Now. 581 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, back in the old days, you know you could disagree, Okay, fine, 582 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 6: Now I disagree with somebody, well he's a child. 583 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: Molests like, whoa, whoa, whoa. 584 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 6: What the heck are you talking about here, dude? No, no, no, 585 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 6: I'm not. You can't say stuff like that anymore. But 586 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 6: and and and and part I think because I call it, 587 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 6: I call it Barack Obama Donald Trump syndrome. They want 588 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 6: to be the next Donald Trump or the next Barack Obama, 589 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 6: but they're not Donald Trump Barack Obama. Our unique personalities 590 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 6: that come along once in a lifetime and our in 591 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 6: our in our in our political universe, and trying to 592 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: be the next Donald Trump. It ain't gonna happen. So 593 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 6: stop trying to be Donald Trump. 594 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 7: Just be yourself. 595 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got thirty seconds. What if you could give 596 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: advice to these people that you think they should be 597 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: thankful for? 598 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: What would it be? 599 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 7: Be thankful? 600 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 6: Didn't hire a real lawyer to go after you. But 601 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 6: I keep all the proceeds for myself. 602 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Hey, we're thankful for you, thanks for 603 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: all you do, and we're thankful you're on State House 604 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: happenings with us. 605 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 7: Hey, thankful for you and the love and wife and missus. 606 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. 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For more information, call eight one, two, 625 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 2: four four three three zero zero three State House Happenings. 626 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: Also wants to thank our fine friends at Freedom Foods Indiana. 627 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: Farmer Ryan Schleiman and the folks at Freedom Foods Indiana 628 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: have been delivering fresh fruits and vegetables right to people's 629 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: doors for years and Freedom Foods Indiana is a big 630 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: supporter of State House Happenings. Now Freedom Foods Indiana has 631 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: some big things coming. We can't wait to tell you 632 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: all about it in the near future. Right now, though, 633 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: we just want to say thanks to our friends at 634 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting State House happenings. 635 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: That is going to do it for us this week. 636 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 2: For Abdu Lage Jabaz, for Jim Merritt, I'm Rob Kendall 637 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: want to wish you a very happy and safe Thanksgiving. 638 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: For the aforementioned, you've been listening to State House Happenings,