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Speaker 1: Kicking off the season, coming off of Thanksgiving, I love it.

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Speaker 2: You know, when I hear you say strobe lights and

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Speaker 1: Very similar. Yes, do we happen to have that? By

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Speaker 1: Nobody puts on these events better than Indianapolis. And let

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Speaker 1: it's not a news story, Todd, it's season two of it.

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Speaker 1: When you look at and you played obviously Todd you know,

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Speaker 1: Do fans fans get nervous about it? Do you think

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Speaker 4: chance to do that.

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Speaker 1: Todd, do you believe that regardless of what happens in

435
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Speaker 1: this game? And I know how bad Indiana fans want to,

436
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Speaker 1: you know, especially when to beat Ohio State, because to

437
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: be the best, you got to beat the best, right,

438
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Speaker 1: But do both of these teams deserve a first round

439
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Speaker 1: by regardless of what happens tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: It's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if I don't know that

442
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Speaker 4: that will happen, you know, And I don't know for sure,

443
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Speaker 4: you know, based on the based on last year, whether

444
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 4: that first round by is a great thing or point.

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Speaker 3: You know, point I think.

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00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: I think if you're playing well, and you've got things

447
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: on a role and you're healthy, you know, I think

448
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: most guys want to keep playing, you know. Now, if

449
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 4: you get some guys banged up in this game and

450
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: you need a little extra time, then then then it

451
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 4: can be beneficial. But I'm not sure it's the greatest

452
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 4: thing to have, especially.

453
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Speaker 3: If you get a home game, you know, and.

454
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Speaker 4: Another chance to play in front of your home crowd

455
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: in December, and a playoff mode would be pretty awesome.

456
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Speaker 1: Lastly, bo Jackson, you mentioned the running back for Ohio State.

457
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Speaker 1: We have mentioned it several times this week. He is

458
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Speaker 1: of no relation. He is, of course, of the same name,

459
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Speaker 1: but no relation to the Bo Jackson Heisman winner and

460
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Speaker 1: legendary running back out of Auburn. Sometimes I feel bad

461
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Speaker 1: when guys have the same name of great players, because

462
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Speaker 1: that means one of the two kind of gets lost

463
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Speaker 1: in it, and no bigger example of that, and both

464
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Speaker 1: of them are fabulous players. Kurt Warner the quarterback, unfortunately,

465
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Speaker 1: I think to made people some people forget about Kurt Warner,

466
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Speaker 1: the running back and the one that you played with

467
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Speaker 1: at Penn State and went on to Seattle. I think

468
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Speaker 1: is one of the most underrated and underappreciated running backs

469
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Speaker 1: of the late eighties. Tell me I'm.

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Speaker 4: Wrong, Well, he you know, I'm pretty biased, but I

471
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Speaker 4: thought he was the best guy I ever played with

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Speaker 4: ever teammate. He was an outstanding player at Penn State,

473
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Speaker 4: and even though his career was shortened, you know, by

474
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Speaker 4: a knee injury when he was in the NFL, he

475
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Speaker 4: was still incredibly productive, made a couple of Pro Bowls,

476
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Speaker 4: got the Seahawks into the playoffs. He was a great,

477
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Speaker 4: great player, and he had the ability to you know,

478
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Speaker 4: to me, his superpower as a running back was he

479
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Speaker 4: had the ability to cut and move laterally without losing speed.

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Speaker 4: And you know, just very few guys that I've seen,

481
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Speaker 4: you know, had that ability to do that.

482
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Speaker 3: But he was.

483
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Speaker 4: He was a special player.

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Speaker 1: Over fourteen hundred yards on two occasions, for over one

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Speaker 1: thousand yards in his NFL career. Loved Kurt Warner, and

486
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Speaker 1: I love those Seahawks uniforms, so there's probably a bias

487
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: for me there as well. Loved him, Todd A one time,

488
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Speaker 1: what's happened funny?

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Speaker 4: I was just going to say, one thing is funny

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Speaker 4: you talk about bo Jackson and having the same name.

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Speaker 4: The irony of that is his actual real.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, laar, yeah right, But of course here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, Todd. Let's be real, okay. I mean he's

494
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Speaker 1: going to be fine no matter which one of those

495
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Speaker 1: he replicates, right, I mean, either one he gets, the

496
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: career of either one of those two guys, he's in

497
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Speaker 1: pretty good shape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Todd.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. I know it's a busy time,

500
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Speaker 1: and certainly enjoy watching you with all of your coverage,

501
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: especially on NBC. And appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Today you got it, man, enjoy the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Todd Blackliss joining us, Java House, Peel and

504
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: Port guest line Big Show line up. Chris Did are

505
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: going to join us one o'clock today on the program

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Speaker 1: We will talk Colts.

507
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Speaker 3: J P.

508
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: Shadwick going to join us at one thirty and Kevin

509
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Bowen at two o'clock. So we've got a lot going

510
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: on over the course of today. But when we come back,

511
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get let's and you Indiana fans, you've

512
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: been waiting forever for it, right, you've been waiting forever

513
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: for it, And we did this for Purdue when they

514
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: made And I know it's not yet the final four,

515
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: but this is big for the Hoosiers in terms of

516
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: getting to play Ohio State and seeing Indiana painted in

517
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: the end zone. If you are somebody who's been going

518
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: to EU Games forever, if you've got an uncle, you've

519
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: got a grandfather, you've got a dad, you've got a mother,

520
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: you've got an aunt, you've got a cousin, somebody you

521
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: know that you think to yourself, this is for them,

522
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: then I want to know about it. At two three,

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Speaker 1: nine ten seventy, I arrived, I should say, today, walked

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Speaker 1: in the building and I'm wearing my again.

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Speaker 5: I know it.

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Speaker 1: I know that by the definition and the letter of

527
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: the law, with this job, there is to be an objectivity.

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Speaker 1: And I also know and understand there's a law about that.

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Speaker 1: There is I didn't know that. What's the letter, what's

530
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: that what's the letter p Oh?

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Speaker 2: Really?

532
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it stands for professionalism.

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Speaker 2: Really. Yes, I didn't know you had that there. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I have. I carried it forever and then just decided

536
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Speaker 1: a year ago.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

538
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Speaker 1: I'm Indy through and through, baby, and I bleed the

539
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: torch of Indiana. And I was thrilled when Prdue went

540
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Speaker 1: to the final four. Thrilled because I knew what it

541
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Speaker 1: meant to my cousin that went to Purdue. I knew

542
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: what it meant to, you know, my uncle, so many

543
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: Purdue fans that I knew and grew up with, and

544
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Speaker 1: you know kids I went to school with that went

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Speaker 1: to Purdue. I was thrilled when Butler went to the

546
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Speaker 1: final four because it was such an incredible story. And yeah,

547
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I was a diehard, obnoxious,

548
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: completely myopic Indiana fan. But now I'm a fan of

549
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: all the teams, and when they are doing well, I

550
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: want them to be celebrated on this radio station, in

551
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: this radio show, and each group of fans should get

552
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: their turn at the plate, and we should all kumbay

553
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: a baby, all celebrate what is local. And that's what

554
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: I want to do, and so you know, I have

555
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: my IU What is it? The Bison? Yep, the Bison, fella.

556
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: This is the seventies vintage of it. Of course I

557
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: could have worn one of my why not Indiana shirts

558
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, but I want to. And so

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Speaker 1: I get here today and I see Eddie's wearing an

560
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Indiana sweatshirt. I saw Scott Johnson's wearing an Indiana football jersey.

561
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Speaker 1: He has the one retro one that exists within the

562
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Speaker 1: free market. I saw Landin's wearing an Indiana sweatshirt all

563
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Speaker 1: in baby, and I know it's Ohio against the world

564
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: for Ohio State, but it's Indiana against the world. I

565
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: guess this weekend. Jim joins us at two, three, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten seventy. I want people to let me know why

567
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: and who they're cheering for to see this get done,

568
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: because we never thought we would see it. How are you, Jim?

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Speaker 3: I'm great? How are you, Jake?

570
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm fired up, man, I'm fired up. Jim. Are you

571
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Speaker 1: an Indiana fan?

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00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 6: I am huge?

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Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking, Jim, how old a

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Speaker 1: fella are you?

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Speaker 7: I am sixty two?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you began going to Indiana football games or following

577
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Speaker 1: them in what era? The bad era?

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Speaker 3: How about that?

579
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Speaker 1: So so years ago?

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Speaker 6: Rest.

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Speaker 7: That's why when I heard your question, I immediately thought of

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Speaker 7: only myself, as this is for me, because in my

583
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Speaker 7: four years in Bloomington, we won three games in four years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you would have been there. I'm just guessing here.

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Speaker 1: You would have been there right around, probably starting out

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Speaker 1: with Sam Whitch and then into the Mallory year where

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Speaker 1: he went winless in his first year before he kind

588
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Speaker 1: of got things going right.

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Speaker 7: My freshman year was Corso's last year, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then so then you saw Whites.

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Speaker 7: Right, yep, yep, and he went on he went winless

592
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Speaker 7: as well.

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Speaker 1: And then Mallory came in.

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Speaker 7: And I think he won one game and then two

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Speaker 7: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I think White might have won like one or two

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Speaker 1: games and then may I know Mallory was winless in

598
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Speaker 1: his first year. But yes, Jim, listen, maybe that's what

599
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was such a bad experience I tried to

601
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Speaker 7: forget about.

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Speaker 1: Did you go to games as a student gym every game?

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00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I loved every game. I love it. Jim, all right,

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Speaker 1: So are you going tomorrow night? Absolutely? You gotta do

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Speaker 1: it right. I mean, and here's the thing, Jem. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: the funny thing is in reality, in reality, the game

608
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Speaker 1: tomorrow night is kind of meaningless in reality, right, but

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Speaker 1: it's not I do you agree?

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Speaker 7: I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 1: It's not, though, Jim, I appreciate it. Win it for Jim, Baby,

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Speaker 1: Win it for Jim. Andrew's next, Andrew, what's up, hey, Jake?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

614
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm all right?

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00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 8: You good?

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00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 9: We got are you all over here this weekend?

618
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 6: So pumped about that?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So are you going to the basketball game tomorrow?

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Speaker 9: Just I'm just going to the basketball game.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're not going to the football game. No,

622
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: let me ask you something.

623
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Speaker 3: Married.

624
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Let me ask Andrew, are you a married fellow?

625
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: I am? Yeah, two year old.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the other thing, too, is the wife put

627
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Speaker 1: the financial restriction on it, right, because there's quite the

628
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: disparity between the basketball ticket and the football ticket, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, about a thousand dollars maybe.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's unbelievable. Okay, Andrew, you began did you

631
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: go to Indiana?

632
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

633
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 9: I graduated in twenty eleven.

634
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so you saw some okay teams? Am I right

635
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: about that? Was that the I'm trying to think my

636
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: years get foggy. Was that the Kevin Wilson.

637
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 9: Era I graduated, So first year was Heppner died that

638
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 9: summer Lynch took over, went to the inside, dot combol.

639
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 6: And then Wilson started after.

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Speaker 9: I actually was the equipment manager for the team from

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Speaker 9: eight to ten.

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Speaker 1: So I hold on hold, Andrew, hang on hold the phone,

643
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Speaker 1: Hold the phone. So you were an equipment manager for

644
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: Indiana football. I was that doesn't earn you the right

645
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Speaker 1: to call down there and demand a ticket.

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Speaker 9: I tried that for a regular season this year, and

647
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Speaker 9: it wasn't. We got him last year, but this year

648
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 9: they were a little bit tighter on uh.

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00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, okay, now, yeah, you know, I'm not saying

650
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Speaker 1: they upgraded their equipment managers, Andrew. But let's be real here, right,

651
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, all right, Andrew, listen. I'm I'm

652
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Speaker 1: hoping they get it done. Like I said, I told Jim,

653
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: the game's meaningless, but it's not. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh totally, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Uh listen, cheer them on tomorrow. In the basketball standpoint,

657
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough one. Louisll's pretty good. I

658
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: think Indiana's cotao, but football side of it. Enjoy the game,

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Speaker 1: all right. I don't know. I was gonna go to

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Speaker 1: the game, and now I'm not going to the game.

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Speaker 1: And so Eddie, what is your plan tomorrow for the

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Speaker 1: big game?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 2: Which game? Because you were talking about football? Okay, football,

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Speaker 2: I'm going over to her buddy's house tomorrow night, Alec No, man,

666
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Speaker 2: I'm calling bluff here. No, tomorrow is Alex's birthday, So

667
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: happy early birthday, Alex.

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Speaker 1: You know your friends are kind of like Indiana football seasons,

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Speaker 1: hard to find a second one, right.

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Speaker 2: Really, you're going that low. Seriously, I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 1: We'll get back into the conversation about I you Chris

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Speaker 1: Dido joining us at eighteen when we come back. There

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Speaker 1: is good news for the Colts heading into Jacksonville. I'll

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Speaker 1: explain next Eddie. By any chance, do you happen to

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Speaker 1: have the breaking news sounder? This from in Girl Cindy.

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Speaker 1: I was on the IU campus from eighty five to

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Speaker 1: eighty eight. I was at the game in Columbus in

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Speaker 1: eighty seven when I you beat Ohio State thirty one ten.

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Speaker 1: I remember that like it was yesterday. By the way,

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Speaker 1: that was Earl Bruce's famous darkest day in Ohio state history?

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Speaker 2: Is this Cindy Denise listener?

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00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: Well? That and that's I ran the Breaking News sounder

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Speaker 1: because I thought it might be that we have female

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Speaker 1: listener thirty one unless we do have a Cindy already registered?

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Speaker 3: Do we?

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Speaker 8: Not?

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Speaker 2: We do?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Do you happen to have the breaking new sounder?

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Speaker 1: This just in? We're still stuck on thirty. I thought

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Speaker 1: we had thirty one, but I guess it sounds like

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Speaker 1: we're still stuck on thirty. Right, didn't we have I

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Speaker 1: forget her name?

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Speaker 2: That the former IU p U I now IU Indy

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Speaker 2: soccer player.

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Speaker 1: Was she not?

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Speaker 2: Was she thirty or thirty one?

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Speaker 1: Do you happen to have the breaking news sounder? By chance?

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Speaker 3: This just in?

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Speaker 1: We are actually at thirty one female listeners, still looking

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Speaker 1: for thirty two. However, the next female listener we get

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Speaker 1: that is new to this program will be Edrin James

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Speaker 1: thirty two.

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Speaker 6: Right, yep?

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Speaker 1: Okay? The Colts are in Jacksonville. Speaking of Edrin James

705
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Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, this is a place that has

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Speaker 1: been an absolute nightmare for them. House of horrors. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've always I usually say house of horrors, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like I really have to enunciate and accentuate that

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Speaker 1: second syllable of horrors. Yeah, that's right, because otherwise people

710
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: then start to they're saying to themselves. I turn on

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Speaker 1: the show. Why is Jake talking about? Amsterdam?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The red light district, which, by the way, apparently you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to take photos with your That is correct.

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00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: How stupid you, I believe it is what the girl

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00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: said to me.

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Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I just remember you stupid.

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Speaker 1: You can. For those that don't know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: When we were in Amsterdam, I was walking through the

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Speaker 1: red Light district and I thought, well, this is and

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Speaker 1: I was it's like this kind of commercialize it. It's

725
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: like Disney World almost right, but with red lights everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And so we're walking along and I get up my

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00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: phone to kind of videotape it, and Shannon's like, I

728
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Speaker 1: don't think you can do that. I don't think you

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00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: can do that. And then one of the girls starts

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Speaker 1: knocking on the glass and I thought, well, they're very

731
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Speaker 1: aggressive with their sales approach. And then she opened the

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Speaker 1: door of the or the window thing that she was

733
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Speaker 1: standing in and she yelled at me, how stupid you.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't realize this, but they could actually take

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Speaker 1: your phone in the circumstance guilty as charged, I mean

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Speaker 1: cultural naivete here. So on this video, all you can

737
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Speaker 1: hear is a girl yelling how stupid you, and Shannon

738
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Speaker 1: in the distance saying, no, that's it, You're on your own.

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Speaker 1: No gosh, yeah, she thought for sure we were getting arrested.

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Speaker 1: The good news for the Colts in this game if

741
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: you were looking for positives Daniel Jones yesterday going through

742
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: individual drills looking again, I mean that injury is not

743
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: going to just immediately go away. But the only player,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bone is going to join us coming up about

745
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: a little over an hour and a half from now.

746
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Speaker 1: Pointing this out, the only player that is on the

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Speaker 1: injury report for did not practice for multiple days this

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Speaker 1: week is Sauce Gardner. And we knew obviously that Sauce

749
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Speaker 1: Gardner was not going to be a go. I think

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Speaker 1: it's safe to say that he misses three games not

751
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: going on IR though, so that would mean that they

752
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: do not anticipate that he will miss four. Otherwise you

753
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: would probably just put him on IR. But The Jags,

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00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: as we talked about yesterday with Matt Taylor, are a

755
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: little bit of an enigma because I think that we think,

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00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: generically speaking, when it comes to Jacksonville that they are

757
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: going to be defensively aggressive, and they have a quarterback

758
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: that I have thought the world of in Trevor Lawrence.

759
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: But the reality is that it is becoming more clear

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Speaker 1: that what Eddie has said about Trevor Lawrence is just

761
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: the consistency is not there to where you'd like it.

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00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: When you get good Trevor Lawrence, he's pretty good, but

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Speaker 1: you just they they have challenges getting that from one

764
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Speaker 1: quarter to the next, let alone one game to the next.

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Speaker 1: Two through nine, ten seventy is the telephone number Nancy

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Speaker 1: joining us. Hi, Nancy, how are you?

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Speaker 10: I'm good, Jake, how you doing?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Nancy? Let me tell you something. It's a Friday, right right.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day outside.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't like cold weather, but it's sunny outside, right

773
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: And Nancy, I'm driving down today and I'm driving down

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Speaker 1: Capital and I'm thinking about the fact of everything that's

775
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: going to happen in this awesome sports weekend, and the

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00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: fact that I basically get to sit here and talk

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Speaker 1: about it for three hours with fabulous, beautiful people like yourself.

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Speaker 1: So how in the world can I complain about anything? Nancy?

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Speaker 10: Right, you can't, Jake, Do you know who this is?

780
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 10: Nancy Chumbley, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: The prime joy of Hencepin fire suits. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something for those that don't know, Nancy with Henchman

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Speaker 1: fire suits. And if you want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: craftsmanship of this woman, the artistry of which the voice

785
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: you're hearing, I remember like it was yesterday when Dario

786
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: Frankety wanted to do a tribute to his hero Jim Clark,

787
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: and Nancy took one photo and one big patch of

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Speaker 1: fabric and the next thing I knew had the most

789
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Speaker 1: perfect absolute replica fire suit for Dario fran Ketty to

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Speaker 1: walk around in. And I've never seen a guy that

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Speaker 1: won three and five hundreds be more proud of anything

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Speaker 1: in the world. Now, Nancy, are you? Are you implying,

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Speaker 1: Nancy that you were listening to the show today? By chance?

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Speaker 10: I'm implying that my brother Joe, who's called in many

795
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 10: times and listened faithfully, just gave me a call and said, Nia, Turry,

796
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 10: your baddy, Jake just said up thirty second caller.

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Speaker 1: Now hold on now, Nancy. Here's the thing though, because

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Speaker 1: we have to get verification that you've actually listened to

799
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: the program before or oh before we can lock you

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Speaker 1: in as female listener number thirty two, thirty one or

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Speaker 1: thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Eddie, thirty two Eddrian James.

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Speaker 1: Remember, so, Nancy, have you listened to the program before?

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Speaker 10: Yes, I have, of course I have. You know, besides

805
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 10: Dario looking hot in his suit, we have Jake looking

806
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Speaker 10: hot in the suit and make for him as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on, can you say that one

808
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: more time for me, Nancy? Aside from Dario, what else

809
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Speaker 1: do you have?

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Speaker 10: We had a Jake Query suit we made and wow

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Speaker 10: did he look hot in that?

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Speaker 5: Eddie?

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Speaker 1: If you could please the breaking new sounder officially female

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Speaker 1: caller number thirty two, Nancy, or now you know what, Nancy,

815
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: that was such a great endorsement. And because of your

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Speaker 1: affiliation with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, thirty three is the

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Speaker 1: magic number. You are female listener thirty two and thirty three.

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Speaker 1: How's that green dog we're sitting on? Thirty three? Eddie.

819
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: I love it, Nancy, I love you, appreciate it and

820
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas. Te you and Nancy is

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Speaker 1: the absolute best Nancy tummy at Henchmin fire Suits over

822
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Speaker 1: on the Near West Side does all of the fire

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Speaker 1: suits for IndyCar Radio entering James and Miles Turning, Oh Boy,

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Speaker 1: thirty three, Ashley Ambrose, Melvin Bullet, wasn't he thirty three

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Speaker 1: or thirty three? In the starting grid? Nancy female caller

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Speaker 1: thirty two and thirty three? Chris Ditto. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Chris Ditto told me yesterday, I said, Hey, can you

828
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: come on the show. I want to talk to an

829
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Speaker 1: Indiana football player about what this means. And Ditto said

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Speaker 1: to me, I'm so excited I might hyperventilate on the air.

831
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Speaker 1: So we're going to find out. And if you know what,

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00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'll say. If he tells me that

833
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: he's excited about this weekend with Indiana football, you know

834
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Speaker 1: what I'll say in response to that at Dominic Rhads, Jake, Oh,

835
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Speaker 1: Dominic Rhodes, this should be the Super Bowl MVP. If

836
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Speaker 1: if Chris says to me, I am so stoked about this, Jake,

837
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Speaker 1: you know what my response will be, why not Indiana? No,

838
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Speaker 1: My response will be Diddo. He joins us.

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Speaker 6: Next.

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Speaker 1: Bill Benner, one of the great great Pillar media people

841
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, sends me the following. Jake, one of my

842
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: best friends. Jim has been an IU football season ticket

843
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: holder for fifty years. We sit together. He named his

844
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Speaker 1: kids Bill and Mallory. Last year we traveled to twelve

845
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: of the thirteen games. This year we've been to nine

846
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: of the twelve, and of course we'll be there tomorrow

847
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Speaker 1: night and however far they go. He owns a small

848
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: business in Connersville, but has made the drive to and

849
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: from Bloomington more than a thousand times, and those return

850
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: trips have often not been enjoyable. This IU season is

851
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: for him that from Bill now Ron with Chicago's Pizza.

852
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, love Ron and Chicago's pizza.

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Speaker 2: Jay fantastic.

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00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm a class of seventy five IU graduate, but truthfully,

855
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: I was never a long suffering IU football fan, because

856
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: the dead don't suffer. But I'm enjoying the resurrection immensely

857
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: for so many people. As I mentioned off the top

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Speaker 1: of the show, each sports entity and property of this market.

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Speaker 1: Butler Basketball in Indiana, Basketball, Perdue football, Perdue basketball, Notre

860
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: Dame football, all of it. They've each had their turn,

861
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: they've each had their spot in the batter's box, their

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00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: moment in the sun, and that time has arrived this

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00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: weekend for Indiana football. And this is just Christmas Eve

864
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: because you got the college football Playoff, which is obviously

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Speaker 1: a certainty for Indiana regardless of what happens tomorrow night.

866
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Speaker 1: But to be able to see the Indiana painted in

867
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Speaker 1: the end zone at Lucas Oil Stadium and over sixty

868
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: thousand people there going up against the defending national champions

869
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Speaker 1: in Indiana football, being merited and being justified and being

870
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: legitimately a top two team in the country with a

871
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: chance to ascend to number one is unbelievable. And one

872
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: of the guys that is enjoying it as much as

873
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: anybody played in thirty one games over four years for

874
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: Indiana through over three thousand yards as their quarterback. Chris

875
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Dida joins me on the show, and he has been

876
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: breathing into a brown paper bag for a week and

877
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: a half in preparation, not because of this perform or

878
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: this appearance, but because of the game.

879
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 11: Chris, how are you, oh, Jake, I mean, I'm doing

880
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 11: great and you couldn't be more right. I know I

881
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 11: feel this might sound really corny, but I actually feel

882
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 11: I even felt like this in a long time, and

883
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 11: it feels like I could like I've felt like the

884
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 11: night before a game, and honestly, like you said, I

885
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 11: feel like I'm nervous, I've got butterflies, jittery, hard to sleep,

886
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 11: and it's just so much fun to think about the

887
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 11: game tomorrow night for all the reasons you just mentioned,

888
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 11: for all the people that have followed Indiana football for decades,

889
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 11: and we've never had this opportunity. So it's a feeling

890
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 11: that I haven't felt in a really, really long time,

891
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 11: and I love it.

892
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: Chris, let's go back to this and listen. I want

893
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: to be clear here right in no means am I

894
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: saying any of this to disparage the efforts of you,

895
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: your teammates and those that came before. Right, But the

896
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: reality is, as you know, it's beyond you know, the

897
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: wildest dreams of anybody, really that here is where Indiana

898
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: is until last year, with what they did a year ago,

899
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: because obviously that the groundwork was laid. But when you

900
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: were a player at Indiana, and I know that you

901
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: guys believe you know, I get it, and you had

902
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: good coaches and all of that, But was there ever

903
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: a time where you almost felt like, yeah, I mean,

904
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: I guess in the end, we are not the Michigan's,

905
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: We're not the Ohio States. You know how much did

906
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: like just branding or perception become one of the challenges

907
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: that you faced as a player. If that makes sense.

908
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, it does, And I think that's it was a

909
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 11: huge factor in for us mentally because we I think

910
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 11: when you know when you're getting recruited, no matter if

911
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 11: it was in the seventies, eighties, nineties, two thousands, and

912
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 11: you're getting recruited to a Big ten school, whether it's Minnesota, Indiana,

913
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 11: Ohio State, Michigan, or Penn State, you feel like, if

914
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 11: you can play in that conference, you can play with anybody,

915
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 11: you can beat anybody. But at the end of the day,

916
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 11: we would still play at a place like you know,

917
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 11: in Columbus, or play at a place like Happy Valley

918
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 11: or at Michigan. And while back in the nineties, we

919
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 11: would compete for a half, or we would compete for

920
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 11: three and a half quarters, and then inevitably we would

921
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 11: do something to lose the game, whether it would be

922
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 11: turned the ball over or it would be a big

923
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 11: give up a big play, or a kickoff return or

924
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 11: a punt return for a touchdown, and the game would

925
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 11: just flip and then all the momentum would be lost.

926
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 11: And I think a perfect example kind of in that

927
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 11: regard for us in the nineties was when we played

928
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 11: Wisconsin this year and we were only up ten to

929
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 11: seven a half, and everyone was frustrated and like, what

930
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 11: is wrong with this team?

931
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: We are not? You know, it was just and I

932
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: was at the game, and I'm.

933
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 8: Just like you like this, you Wisconsin used to be us.

934
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 8: We used to be the ones that were battling a

935
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 8: top fifteen Wisconsin team or a top ten Ohio fIF team,

936
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 8: and we would be caught at half or would be,

937
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 8: you know, down three points in the third quarter.

938
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 11: And we would have and then we would have the

939
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 11: Ohio State Michigan would then take over and beat us

940
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 11: by three or four scores like we did against Wisconsin,

941
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 11: if I'm making sense. And so it's just it's crazy

942
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 11: to see the shoe on our foot, to see to

943
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 11: watch us play a game like we did against Wisconsin,

944
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 11: be down ten to seven, everybody get frustrated and then

945
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 11: us turn it on and win that game, because that

946
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 11: was us the nineties. You know, we were Wisconsin in

947
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 11: the nineties and we would battle for three quarters and

948
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 11: then inevitably lose the game.

949
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it.

950
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 11: Has to do with the tradition, the expectation, all of that.

951
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: That why we lose the games then back then, and

952
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: now we are We've just totally flipped the script.

953
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 11: And it's just it's been incredible to see and I

954
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 11: can't believe it continues to happen.

955
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: I think Chris, one of the things Chris Ditto's my

956
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: guest Java House Peel Andport guest line, the former Indiana quarterback.

957
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: One of the things to me that has been the

958
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: most remarkable about this is a lot of what you're

959
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: talking about. I have always felt, you know, the three

960
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: quarter compete, right is is depth. I mean Ohio State

961
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: or Michigan. You know, they're rotating subliminally, they're rotating guys

962
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: in every third play in quarter one or three that

963
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: are also you know, you went from a five star

964
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: to a four and three quarter star guy, right and

965
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: in Indiana you didn't have the luxury of that depth.

966
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: And I still don't know that Kurt Signettes's group now

967
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: has the luxury of that depth. But what they have

968
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: is this incredible ability to almost know the offense or

969
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: the game plan or the scheme of the opponent more

970
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: so than the opponent does. The level of coaching and

971
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: finite fine too, like comb of every aspect of every

972
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: angle of the field with this group, to me has

973
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: been the most you know, just amazing thing to watch.

974
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: What has been your observation in that regard.

975
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 11: I totally agree, and I think when you watch, you know,

976
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 11: who was it that we played earlier this year. I

977
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 11: think it was UCLA and they ran a fake punt

978
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 11: against our defense, and if you watched how we executed

979
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 11: that play defensively, they I think it was like a

980
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 11: reverse fake punt reverse and we had a guy in

981
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 11: every single position that needed to be where they needed

982
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 11: to be defended in the right place at the right time.

983
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 11: Shut that play down like we knew it was coming.

984
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 11: And to your point, Coach Signetti, coach, you know, defensive coach, change,

985
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 11: coach man, they do such a great job of preparation

986
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 11: or film study that we are prepared as well as

987
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 11: all of these teams, you know, coach Ryan Day. Obviously

988
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 11: he's got incredible talent on his team, but he also

989
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 11: prepares his team, and we I feel like, for the

990
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 11: first time in a long time, we've got a coach

991
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 11: and a coaching staff that prepares our team as well.

992
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: It's not better for each.

993
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 11: In every situation that they might run into in the

994
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 11: case in the course of the four quarters of the

995
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 11: football game. And that's why we're not you know, that's

996
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 11: why we are not only you know, being we're in

997
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 11: these games, but we are we believe that can we

998
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 11: we can win these games like the Oregon game, unbelievable

999
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 11: to you know, the the adversity that Fernada Mendoza faced

1000
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 11: when he threw that pick six. What happens, nothing, They

1001
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 11: don't blink. They come back and they go, they go,

1002
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 11: and they drive right down the field and get the

1003
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 11: game winning touchdown. I mean, the Penn State game. We

1004
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 11: can go on and on about the adversity that they

1005
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 11: faced in that situation. Down you know, four points with

1006
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 11: less than two minutes to play, they get sacked and

1007
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 11: then they don't blink and they Yeah, that's that is

1008
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 11: absolute preparation.

1009
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: It's coaching. And you know, the other thing in this

1010
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: era of college football.

1011
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 11: You know, we have guys on our team that are

1012
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 11: from all over the country. They're from you know, it's

1013
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 11: been well documented how many of our guys are from

1014
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 11: Power five Power five teams, or they were two stars,

1015
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 11: three stars, or zero stars. But I think they've all

1016
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 11: come from winning programs. Wherever they've been, they've won at

1017
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 11: those smaller programs and they've come and Kurt Signetti obviously

1018
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 11: brought an incredible winning mentality. Aiden Fisher, who I think

1019
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 11: is going to go down as an all time legendary

1020
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 11: in the Hoosier for what he's done in two short

1021
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 11: years in the the amount of respect I feel like,

1022
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 11: you know, the amount of respects he's given to Indiana football.

1023
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: Where he's come in and he's not he's just he's

1024
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: come in.

1025
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 11: He's like we wanted James Madison, I'm proud to be

1026
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 11: a Hoosier.

1027
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: I am now a Hoosier. We're going to win here.

1028
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 11: Is just as a former player, many former players that

1029
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 11: we've talked to it it's just incredible to see a

1030
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 11: guy with that mental fortitude and that winning attitude to

1031
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 11: represent our university, our team and leading them to this

1032
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 11: game tomorrow night. That's just going to be such an

1033
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 11: incredible experience for Hongers everywhere.

1034
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: How many how closely Chris did O, my guests Jaba

1035
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: House Peel and poor guest line. Chris as a former player,

1036
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: and obviously I know, you know from a business standpoint,

1037
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm in your PR agency, You're very involved here within

1038
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: Indianapolis invisible, But how much have you been around Kurt

1039
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: Signetti's program just in terms of and I don't know.

1040
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you go to games, but have

1041
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: you gone down to practices or just seen kind of

1042
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes that that the rest of us

1043
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: would not have privy too, you.

1044
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 11: Know, to be honest with you, it's it's very interesting.

1045
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: They don't open up much of anything. I've been to

1046
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: a few events.

1047
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 11: But as far as practices that those are close, and

1048
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 11: it doesn't matter if you're a former.

1049
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: Player, former coach, they are very It's just not happening.

1050
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: And at first I was a.

1051
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 11: Little frustrated because every other coach that we've had.

1052
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 3: In the past very welcome, and I'm very welcoming.

1053
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 11: You know, if you want to come to a practice,

1054
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 11: you just call the office and they're there. You can

1055
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 11: pretty much have free reign. But this is kind of

1056
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 11: a mystique of coach Signetti. You know, I've never seen

1057
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 11: a practice. I know that none of my teammates have either.

1058
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 11: So to answer your question, no, and now I would

1059
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 11: love to. I would love to be a fly on

1060
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 11: the wall and watch coach Signetti watch film, which from

1061
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 11: what I understand and talking with people, it's that's what

1062
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 11: he does, and that's what he does very very well.

1063
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 11: And his ability to dissect and retain what he watches

1064
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 11: on film of opposing teams to create those game plans

1065
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 11: is something to behold. So, you know, unfortunately I've not

1066
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 11: been I have met coach Signetti and it was about

1067
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 11: a five minute conversation because he really he's all business,

1068
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 11: he's all football's. He was friendly, but he's just on

1069
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 11: to the next thing. He's worried about how can we

1070
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 11: make this program better.

1071
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: There's no bs.

1072
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 11: Involved, which at first I was a little frustrated, to

1073
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 11: be honest with you, But we're twenty three and two,

1074
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 11: so let the man do whatever he wants to do.

1075
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: What is the game plan for Chris Dido and like

1076
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: some of your former teammates tomorrow night.

1077
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, so we're we're gonna get We're talked about doing

1078
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 11: a doubleheader of going We're not gonna go to the

1079
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 11: basketball game. That would my head might explode. So we're

1080
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 11: gonna get together about four downtown. Got a buddy who

1081
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 11: owns a business down there, So we're not going to

1082
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 11: try and go to the bars. I think that's just

1083
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 11: gonna be an absolute mad house of a scene. So

1084
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 11: we're gonna go to a buddy's got a business right

1085
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 11: across the street from Lucas Oil. We're gonna tailgate bear

1086
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 11: kind of indoor and outdoor watch the Alabama and Georgia game,

1087
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 11: and then probably going to the stadium around seven. And

1088
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 11: witnessed something that I think we all never thought we

1089
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 11: would and that's Indiana in a Big Ten championship game.

1090
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 11: And while you know it's kind of the appetizer's Christmas

1091
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 11: Eve or it's something that we that we know we've

1092
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 11: got bigger and better things on the horizon. I just

1093
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 11: I still think Tomorrow night is critical for us to compete,

1094
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 11: to stay in the game, to win the game, and

1095
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 11: I think we can because winning a Big Ten championship

1096
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 11: would be I mean, that would be an opportunity to

1097
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 11: go play in the Rose Bowl. You know, we're talking

1098
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 11: about things that haven't happened since nineteen sixty seven. So

1099
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 11: tomorrow night is a huge game for us, even though

1100
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 11: we know there's a four four game tournament that we

1101
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 11: had we will play in in two weeks or you know,

1102
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 11: January first, and but it's it's going.

1103
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna. I know I made I might.

1104
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 11: Shed a tier when I finally I saw your tweet

1105
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 11: and I saw the picture.

1106
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: With the name with Indiana and the end zone.

1107
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 11: It gives me chills thinking about it, and I know

1108
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 11: myself and all former players and we're just we're beyond

1109
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 11: excited to be able to witness this and for it

1110
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 11: to be in our backyard and Indianapolis is also an

1111
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 11: absolute bonus. And the one person that I keep thinking

1112
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 11: of that I'm probably the most excited for it. I

1113
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 11: know many people are as Don Fisher, and we all

1114
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 11: know the fifty years of football that he's witnessed and

1115
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 11: for him and Buck Sewart Hardner, you know, he was

1116
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 11: our coach down there as well.

1117
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: I'm just so happy for.

1118
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 11: Him because I don't think there's anybody that's gone through

1119
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 11: more of Indiana football, the ups and downs, so I

1120
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 11: can't wait to hear his call because he such a

1121
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 11: pro and he's agend Indiana legend as we all know,

1122
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 11: so I can't wait.

1123
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you'll be at the game as well.

1124
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: You know what. So here's the thing. I was going

1125
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: to go, and then at the last kind of I

1126
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that I was. I was extended the opportunity

1127
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: from somebody that was going to get a suite, and

1128
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: then the prices just went bonkers, so they said, you

1129
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not getting a sweet after all. So

1130
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm just going to go down and soak in the

1131
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: atmosphere instead of going to the game. We're going to

1132
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: go down. We're going to try to find a bar

1133
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: restaurant downtown and just soak it in. I mean, it's

1134
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: going to be it's going to be a madhouse, right.

1135
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: But there is part of me, Chris, that I want

1136
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: to be able to look. I want to see them win,

1137
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: and I want to see Indiana win as much for

1138
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: as you know, everybody we're talking about, as well as

1139
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: Terry Hepner and Bill Mallory and all of it, right,

1140
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: I want to see that as much as But but

1141
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: then there's part of me also that more so, I

1142
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: just want to see Ohio State lose. You know, I

1143
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: think that that you know what I mean, that's that's

1144
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: a factor too, But but just the the overall energy.

1145
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: I want to be able to soak in all of

1146
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: it because I just never thought we'd see it in

1147
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: terms of all the energy downtown. I love downtown any

1148
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: this time of year anyway. But so no, I'm not

1149
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: going to actually be in in the stadium, but either way,

1150
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be coo, you know what I mean.

1151
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, I mean, yeah, I love it.

1152
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: I listen, I never thought i'd see it. And I

1153
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: know I'm going to end with one other thing, and

1154
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: I wanted you to kind of piggyback up this. I

1155
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember me asking you this, but

1156
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was a telling comment. I asked you

1157
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: one of the times this year when we were talking,

1158
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: if this is the first time in a long time

1159
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: that when you sit down on an airplane or when

1160
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: you're at a you know, at a restaurant in Georgia

1161
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: on a business trip or whatever, and some and you

1162
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: say like, oh, yeah, you know, I was a college

1163
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: football player, you know, was there ever like a hesitation

1164
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: in saying for Indiana as opposed to now the pride

1165
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: that it gives you, rightly so to be able to

1166
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: say you're a part of Indiana football, and just that overall,

1167
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: I guess the push out of the chest that has

1168
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: now allowed for all of us, but notably for you.

1169
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: What does it mean for the football fraternity of Indiana

1170
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: University and the alumni.

1171
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 11: Well, Jake, you're gonna you're gonna make me tear up, honestly,

1172
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 11: because it means just go back and you think about

1173
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 11: what all that we the work we put into It

1174
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 11: was immense that we that every college football player, any

1175
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 11: college athlete, puts into playing a sport in the Big Ten.

1176
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 11: You know, there's there's a lot more losing than there

1177
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 11: is winning, especially what we experienced, but you still always

1178
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 11: had that hope at the beginning of every season that

1179
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 11: this is our year, and it never was and now

1180
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 11: that it is our year and it has been for

1181
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 11: couple and to see the transformation of Memorial Stadium to

1182
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 11: thirty five thousand to now fifty five thousand, it's just

1183
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 11: a such a gratifying feeling of pride to watch it,

1184
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 11: and not only that, to watch a team that is

1185
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 11: so proud to represent Indiana football and to represent in

1186
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 11: a way that they feel like we're here to stay

1187
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 11: and this is something that can continue and last for

1188
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 11: the next ten to twenty thirty years because of the

1189
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 11: culture that they have built and all of these guys

1190
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 11: that have come in and they have never blinked, and

1191
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 11: all of these guys have you know, I feel like

1192
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 11: I've never felt before where guys on this team embrace

1193
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 11: players from every era and they want us to be

1194
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 11: a part of it, even though we even though we

1195
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 11: haven't necessarily been around the team, it's still it feels

1196
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 11: like we are a part of this team and if

1197
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 11: that and so that's about as good as it gets

1198
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 11: for me, and I know for the rest of the

1199
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 11: guys that played there to be able to say, hey,

1200
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 11: we're going to play Ohio State tomorrow night and we

1201
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 11: feel like we have as good a chance to win

1202
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 11: as they do.

1203
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: What more can you ask.

1204
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 11: For as a as a former player that that we

1205
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 11: all put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into

1206
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 11: that program and now to watch a team that's that's

1207
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 11: actually getting it done.

1208
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, it.

1209
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 11: Keeps me up at night because I'm so excited, so tonight.

1210
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 11: It's gonna be a it's going to be a long night,

1211
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 11: and I just can't wait for tomorrow.

1212
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you three forty eight in the morning.

1213
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: If you're staring at the ceiling and you can't, just

1214
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: shoot me a text, I'm up. Yeah, we'll go to

1215
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: drive around.

1216
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: I will, man, I will.

1217
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: All right, Chris, I appreciate it, man, enjoy it and

1218
01:02:59,120 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: soak it all in.

1219
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much for having me.

1220
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 11: Hopefully we're talking in a couple of weeks and we're

1221
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 11: either in Pasadena or Miami or somewhere fun.

1222
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: Well, there'll definitely be somewhere warm. There's no doubt about that.

1223
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: Chris did. Joining me, Java House, Peel and poor guest

1224
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: line tomorrow night. Indiana and Ohio State for the Big

1225
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: Ten title. Great call there, by the way, on in

1226
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: terms of like when you start thinking about people that

1227
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: you want it for, and Don Fisher absolutely you know

1228
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: the number of games that he's called, and you just

1229
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: think about all the trips back from you know, rainy, dreary,

1230
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: late November games in December where Indiana just you know,

1231
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: just been pounded down five scores in the third quarter

1232
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: and you got to carry through that broadcast. Terry Hupner

1233
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: is one that you know, I remember when I was

1234
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: working at Channel six and I was at the you know,

1235
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: I was basically the entry level sports guy at Channel

1236
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: six at that time. But and then it got to

1237
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: the point, you know, it was Dave first and I

1238
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: were working there. I remember one Saturday and Terry Hepner

1239
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: had just taken the job. Ben Roethlisberger was either a

1240
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: rookie or in his second year with the Steelers and

1241
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: had played for Terry Hepner at Miami of Ohio, and

1242
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: Indiana got out to like a two and o start

1243
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: or whatever it might, you know, as they typically Indiana

1244
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: would do that, right, they'd beat a you know, a

1245
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: smaller school or a D two school or an you

1246
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: know one double A I guess I should say school

1247
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, and get out to a

1248
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: two and oh start, and then maybe beat a lower

1249
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: tier Division I school and maybe go three and oh

1250
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: and you get kind of excited and then you know,

1251
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of reality would kick in. But they had gotten

1252
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: out to a two and oh or three and maybe

1253
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: at one and oh, I don't remember what it was,

1254
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: but none of us really knew Terry Hepner, and I'm

1255
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: working at Channel six and it was a Saturday, and

1256
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: back then we used to do Saturday Sports Extra and

1257
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: Sunday Sports Extra. We did a forty minute sport This

1258
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: shows you how different television is now than it used

1259
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: to be. But we did a forty minute sports show

1260
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday evening from eleven twenty until twelve o'clock.

1261
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: And so Indiana was had a game, and it's like

1262
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: five thirty and like okay, you know, and now we're

1263
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: slamming putting together Sports Extra and the phone rings in

1264
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: the Channel six Sports office and it's Terry Heppner. It's like,

1265
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: hey guys, it's coach hep I'm going to drive up

1266
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: to Indian go around to the TV stations. Didn't know

1267
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: if you wanted to do a quick interview, and we're like,

1268
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I mean, of course, so, and

1269
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: he had gone I think he'd been to eight, he'd

1270
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: been to thirteen and fifty nine whatever. But he came

1271
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: in and so we recorded like a you know, Dave

1272
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: did it obviously like a fifteen minute sitting down talking

1273
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: about Roethlisberger and what he had envisioned for IU and

1274
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: the guy. You would have thought that Dave and I

1275
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: had played for him, You would have thought that we

1276
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: were dating his daughter. He could not have been a

1277
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: nicer guy, with a more clear vision of what he

1278
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: hoped for Indiana. And when he when he left, I

1279
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: remember thinking, that guy really really likes us. Well, that

1280
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: was just the magic of who Terry Hepner was. I

1281
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't know him at all, and he didn't know me,

1282
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: but he had this charming charisma and belief and confidence

1283
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: about who he was and what he wanted to do.

1284
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: And I truly do and I've always felt like the

1285
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: trajectory that Terry Heppner had Indiana going towards in the

1286
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: very brief time that he was able to put his

1287
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: fingerprints on Indiana football before he got ill and had

1288
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: the brain tumor. And then Bill Lynch took over, and

1289
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: Bill Lynchu was also a great guy. But the groundwork

1290
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: that Terry Hepner had laid, you know, the rock and

1291
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: the different things which I kind of giggled at at

1292
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: the time and found them gimmicky, but that belief, that

1293
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: confidence was emiler also to what Kurt Signetti had when

1294
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: he came in and Kurt Signetti gets all of the

1295
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: credit in the world. But when Ditto brought up those names,

1296
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: those are the guys and the people that you think

1297
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: about and the people that you say, this is why

1298
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Speaker 1: it's so special. And I understand part of the rivalry

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: of it, and rivalry is the wrong word, but part

1300
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: of the storyline of it is that Ohio State, understandably

1301
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: and rightly so has every reason to snicker at it

1302
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: and go, yeah, I mean, Indiana's like the little the

1303
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: annoying little brother next door that suddenly finds himself at

1304
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: the big table and now they're trying to fling mashed potatoes.

1305
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: I get it, I totally get it. But I also

1306
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: think that Ohio State, Vans, or anybody Michigan Fans, Minnesota, Purdue,

1307
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, you just have to look at

1308
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: the history of this program and the quality of people

1309
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: that have waited through that and waited through that to

1310
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: get to this point to understand the weight of the moment,

1311
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: and that's why it is so special. And that's why

1312
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: today we say, you know what, We'll give it its due,

1313
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: We'll give it its time. But that's not to say

1314
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: the Colts don't have a big one lined up? Are

1315
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: we taking a road trip today, Eddie? Is that right?

1316
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: We are?

1317
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: Indeed? Where are we headed down to Jacksonville?

1318
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: And we're going there? When now, grab your peanuts or

1319
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: your little Biscoff cookie. We're gonna take a flight down

1320
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. JP Shadwick joining us from the Jags.

1321
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 6: Next.

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: One of my complaints that I have, and this is

1323
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: how you know I'm getting older. I mentioned that the

1324
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: box scores at ESPN dot com for basketball now they're

1325
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: putting like the the points column on the far left

1326
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: where it used to be like minutes and then points

1327
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: were on the far right. So you look at it

1328
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my gosh, holy cow. Like khalil

1329
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: Ware had thirty two last night and they're like, oh no,

1330
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: that's minutes. And I've seen lately the way they do

1331
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: a schedule where it has the most recent at the top.

1332
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: Shouldn't it be that the like if the schedule is

1333
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: listed top to bottom, shouldn't the most recently at the bottom,

1334
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: Like it shouldn't it go as you go downward?

1335
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, Jake, I wasn't paying attention. Okay, well that's a shock.

1336
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: I was talking to JP.

1337
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: Either way, I believe that it's confirmed that the Jaguars,

1338
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: no matter which way I'm looking at it, have won

1339
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: three in a row. And they kind of quietly, and

1340
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean that as no disrespect to them, have put

1341
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: themselves right in the thick of this chase as Indianapolis

1342
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: is starting to backpedal a little bit. Big challenge for

1343
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: the Colts in a place that has been difficult for

1344
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: them this Sunday in Jacksonville joining us now in the

1345
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: Java House. Peel and poor guest line. He is a

1346
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: friend of the program. I thoroughly enjoyed, and I don't

1347
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: remember if we have had him on since this time,

1348
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: So JP. If I am repeating myself with this, I apologize,

1349
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: but I thoroughly enjoyed. At the end of the IndyCar season,

1350
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: driving back from Nashville, listening to I believe it was

1351
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame Miami game on the radio and you

1352
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: were doing the national call. Correct.

1353
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's right. That was the Week one. It

1354
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 6: was like the last week of August. Yeah, and yeah,

1355
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 6: it turned out to be a pretty good game. Miami

1356
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 6: got the field goal late. We'll see if it matters

1357
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 6: now when the playoff rankings come out, next week.

1358
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: But you know, all the.

1359
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 6: Miami people think that that should matter, and I kind

1360
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 6: of I tend to agree with him, but I appreciate

1361
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 6: you listening.

1362
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 10: Man.

1363
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: Thank no, I listened, I literally because I was driving

1364
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: from Nashville. I listened to the entire broadcast. Great call,

1365
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a great game. To

1366
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: your point, right, no question about that. All right, let's

1367
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: get to this one coming up on Sunday. We know

1368
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: the Colt standpoint. From a health factor, Sauce Gardner is

1369
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: the one guy that did not practice this week. That

1370
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: will not change what about Jacksonville in terms of their health.

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01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 1: There are question marks, correct.

1372
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 6: He has a handful. They've had some offensive line question

1373
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 6: marks the last few weeks. The left tackle Walker Little

1374
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 6: is in concussion protocol, so cold and Lantin is likely

1375
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 6: slated to start there, and it would be his fourth

1376
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 6: positions starting on the offensive line this year. I think

1377
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 6: he'd be the ninth player in the last twenty years

1378
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 6: in the NFL to start at four different positions in

1379
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 6: one season, which is pretty remarkable to see. So there's

1380
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 6: some questions there defensive line as well. Trevon Walker with

1381
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 6: a knee issue. He's been out on the practice field

1382
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 6: this week though, and I think it's probably trending the

1383
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 6: right way for him. Eric Armstead, with a hand injury,

1384
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 6: has been practicing in the club. He nearly played last

1385
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 6: week but last second just couldn't go. So those are

1386
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 6: some of the guys in the trenches and then in

1387
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 6: the secondary. I think the Jags are expected to get

1388
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 6: Eric Murray back at safety, which would be big for them,

1389
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 6: veteran guy who's been around for a long time and

1390
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 6: kind of settles things down on the back end.

1391
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Jags have won four or five now. Part of that, admittedly,

1392
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: and I mean this is no disrespect to them. Part

1393
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: of it may be a schedule because you got the

1394
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: Raiders in there, you got the Cardinals and Titans. But

1395
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, playing close with Houston and then handling the Chargers. Clearly,

1396
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: this is a team that have started to figure some

1397
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: things out. What has been different in the last month.

1398
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 6: For them, Yeah, I mean they're they're figuring out a

1399
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 6: way to finish some close ball games, right. They didn't

1400
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 6: do that last year, new regime and everything. This year, clearly,

1401
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 6: the Houston game was a debacle.

1402
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean that they were up by.

1403
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 6: Three scores, in the fourth quarter and blew the game.

1404
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 6: I mean, they just didn't finish the game. So I

1405
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 6: think that woke them up a little bit and said, hey, guys,

1406
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 6: we we could not have that kype of performance in

1407
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter again, especially against the backup quarterback for Houston.

1408
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 6: Strad wasn't out there. So they come back after the

1409
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 6: next week and take the Chargers out and that was

1410
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 6: the best complete game of the season. I know they've

1411
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 6: had some close ones, but I don't even look at,

1412
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 6: you know, the Cardinals game or the Raiders game is

1413
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 6: I mean, those were really tight games, but you still

1414
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 6: got to go find a way to win them.

1415
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 3: And they may not be.

1416
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 6: You know, an elite team yet, but they're finding ways

1417
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 6: to win and that's what comes out of these games.

1418
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 6: And they're they're playing really well against the run on defense.

1419
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 6: That's number one. They want to be physical in the

1420
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 6: offensive line and run the ball. He didn't do it

1421
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 6: last week against Tennessee, but they didn't have to because

1422
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 6: Tennessee stinks. So they're finding ways to win and they're

1423
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 6: in first place.

1424
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So Trevor Lawrence, we've talked so much about this,

1425
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: I know, right, and when I look at Trevor Lawrence

1426
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: each time that I start to think he's got it

1427
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: figured out, then all of a sudden, there's like a

1428
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: slight regression there. So JP, my question is in the

1429
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: passing game, Brian Thomas Junior is pretty special talent. Are

1430
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: they going long form passing game or is Trevor Lawrence

1431
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: becoming more of a short yardage I hate to use

1432
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: the term dank and dunk type quarterback.

1433
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, let's begin a few weeks ago when yeah,

1434
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 6: he was really having some issues down the field or

1435
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 6: letting it fly or has it or whatever. He was

1436
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 6: hanging on to it or dumping it down to the

1437
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 6: running back, and he had a conversation with Liam Cohen

1438
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 6: and the coach shared it with the media. It is like, hey,

1439
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 6: we just let it rip, like we don't mind if

1440
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 6: you get an extra interception or so a game you

1441
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 6: don't want it, but hey, you know, if if you

1442
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 6: complete free more down the field than you are right now, okay,

1443
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 6: we'll take one. You're being aggressive, somebody makes a play

1444
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 6: on it on the back end. Just let it loose, man,

1445
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 6: let it fly, Like that's the way you play the

1446
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 6: best when you're free and don't have to worry about anything. Take,

1447
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 6: for example, the playoff game a couple of years ago.

1448
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 6: I get the charges he had thrown four picks in

1449
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 6: the first half. There's nothing to lose then, so he's

1450
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 6: just letting it rip down the field and they find

1451
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 6: their way back into the game and win the thing.

1452
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 6: So that's that is kind of changed. I think his

1453
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 6: mentality the last couple weeks where he's been pretty comfortable

1454
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 6: in the pocket, especially against Tennessee last week, and made

1455
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 6: some pretty strong throws down field. But you're gonna have

1456
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 6: some missus and there's gonna be some picks. It is

1457
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 6: the full Trevor Lawrence experience. This is what it is.

1458
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 6: You know this, but you've got to be able to

1459
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 6: live with it and have all the other parts of

1460
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 6: your team do their job as well, defense and some

1461
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 6: special team scores like they've had.

1462
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: Is there still more there for him? I'm talking about

1463
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in terms of who he can become or

1464
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: are we at the point now in a guy's career

1465
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: where not saying he's a bad quarterback, but where you

1466
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea he is who he is.

1467
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1468
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 6: I think there's still a little more to come just

1469
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 6: because it is the back end of his first season

1470
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 6: in this scheme.

1471
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 3: He seems to have it.

1472
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 6: Down pretty well. And you know, the middle of the season,

1473
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 6: they were trying to figure out how to streamline the

1474
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 6: pre snap process because these play calls are pretty long

1475
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 6: and they're in depth, and if you miss something then

1476
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 6: you got to resay the whole thing again in the huddle,

1477
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 6: and they were getting to the line late and that

1478
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 6: was causing panic and pre snap motion penalty. All these

1479
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 6: things are going on. So since then he's gone to

1480
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,480
Speaker 6: a wristbands which has helped streamline the free snap process,

1481
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 6: which I think calms his mind a little bit. And

1482
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 6: credit him for asking for it, and credit the staff

1483
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 6: for not, you know, for budging and allowing him to

1484
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 6: do a lot of staffs and be like, what are

1485
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 6: you talking about, like learning offense, But this is to

1486
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 6: help him and his process pre snap. I think that

1487
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 6: helps him moving ahead once the snap is there once

1488
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 6: a year over the ball, I think that would help

1489
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 6: them moving ahead. So there's more out there. We'll see

1490
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 6: what happens. If Brian Thomas can catch the football down

1491
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 6: the stretch, you know, that would help. And he's been

1492
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 6: out for a couple of weeks with an ankle injury,

1493
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 6: came back last week. They need that deep threat down

1494
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 6: the field. They haven't really had that consistently this season

1495
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 6: because they got everything else. As you talked about, all

1496
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 6: the underneath stuff is there is the Kobe Myers and

1497
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 6: the tight ends strange, but to have something over the

1498
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 6: top would be a huge, huge boon for this team.

1499
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: JP. Are you a married fella?

1500
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 3: No?

1501
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 6: Why?

1502
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, because I was going to use the analogy

1503
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: or a set the scene of like you wake up

1504
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: in the morning and your wife says, you know you

1505
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: look tired. No, no, no, So let's just say you go

1506
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: to work and somebody's like, dude, you look tired, and

1507
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: you say, you know what I am? Because I was

1508
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: up all night trying to figure out the one area

1509
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: for the Jags that I just can't get a hold

1510
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: on who they are and what they are. What has

1511
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: been the most consistent thing of that storyline that it

1512
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 1: would be for you over the course of this year.

1513
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, somebody tells me I'm tired, I just tell them

1514
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 6: that I'm sick and tired of their crap, you know, like,

1515
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 6: like mind your own.

1516
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: Business, like me right there? A matter of fact, we're

1517
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: gonna do this again. I'm gonna ask if you're a

1518
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: married fella, and I want you to answer it exactly

1519
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: like that. JPU, you a married fella?

1520
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, mind your own business about that, perfect I think

1521
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 6: I think I know what you mean. This is what's

1522
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 6: your identity, right, like?

1523
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: What are they correct or what's the area where they're

1524
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: not and you feel they should be.

1525
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think the defenses really started to show that

1526
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 6: they are a really good run stuffing defense. We'll find

1527
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 6: out on Sunday. Clearly against Jonathan Taylor. They have not

1528
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 6: allowed a rusher this year to run for seventy or

1529
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 6: more yards than a game a single running back on them,

1530
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 6: So that's that doesn't happen too often in full seasons.

1531
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 6: They got a few games to go if they can

1532
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 6: kind of make some history. But this is a tough

1533
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 6: test this week. But they feel like they're stout there

1534
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 6: and they're a pretty good takeaway team early in the season.

1535
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 6: They've got to get back to that on defense. On offense,

1536
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 6: that's a great question. I think they want to be

1537
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 6: the physical group that runs the ball first and then

1538
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 6: throws off that in short down in distance on second

1539
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 6: and third, that's their old goal. It's not you know,

1540
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 6: putting four wide and throwing it all over the yard.

1541
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 6: We've seen that with Trevor Lawrence. You don't want I

1542
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 6: don't think you want him throwing it forty five times

1543
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 6: a game. You know, twenty eight is fine and run

1544
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 6: the ball, and that's that's what they're best at, I

1545
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 6: think right now. And what they're not best at is

1546
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 6: spreading it out and throwing it around down a game.

1547
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 6: You know it's going to be tough because there is

1548
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 6: some inconsistency in the passing game and they've had some

1549
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 6: drops this year, and that's just kind of what it

1550
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 6: is here.

1551
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Lastly, I would be remiss if I didn't ask

1552
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: because I know that you obviously, as I mentioned off

1553
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: the top, you know you've you got some knowledge of

1554
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: college football as well. I'm going to give you two games.

1555
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: I want you to quickly handicap it and give me

1556
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: your prediction. Georgia Alabama.

1557
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 6: Well, Alabama cannot run. They did actually run one of

1558
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 6: their higher marks last week in Auburn, but it's not

1559
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 6: consistent in the season. If they getting the head of

1560
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 6: the quarterback, I think Kirby smart and that defense will

1561
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 6: have a chance to do that for the second time.

1562
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 6: They didn't do it last time in the regular season.

1563
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 6: I think Georgia gets this football game.

1564
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 1: Okay, Indiana Ohio State, who.

1565
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 6: Boy in Ohio. Shake's good quarterbacks, good block severs, really good.

1566
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 6: The defensive back is fantastic. They've got pieces and parts

1567
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 6: and they know how to win games like this. And

1568
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 6: Indiana has not been here yet, so this is their

1569
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 6: first time really in the in the dance like this.

1570
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 6: I think Ohio State wins just because of that experience.

1571
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 6: But I think it's a closer game than a lot

1572
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 6: of people might think.

1573
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd ask you b Yu Texas Tech, but then

1574
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: you'll tell me to mind my own business.

1575
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 6: Right, that's a good point.

1576
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 3: Who out is that?

1577
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: That's that is? There is some truth to that, right.

1578
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,839
Speaker 1: You gotta feel bad. I mean Texas Tech is apparently

1579
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: like really good dude. I'll be honest with you, I've

1580
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: seen none of them this year, right, It's kind of

1581
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: true to b YU as well.

1582
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 6: Actually had b YU on the other night just for

1583
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 6: the first time in like Texas Tech.

1584
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 3: The same thing.

1585
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 6: Either I'm doing a game, I'm busy and they're not

1586
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 6: on or what you know, so I've missed them, so

1587
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 6: I have no comment on that game my business.

1588
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, all right, jpre appreciate. What's the weather going

1589
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: to be down there? I had assume typical, what's sixty five?

1590
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 3: Good? Well, it's going to rain.

1591
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 6: I think there's rain in the forecast, so and like

1592
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 6: one hundred percent chance of rain and most of the

1593
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 6: day so yes, but temperatures will be in probably mid sixties.

1594
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 6: But it's supposed to be wet, so the JAG's been

1595
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 6: working with a wet ball all week long. And we'll see,

1596
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 6: if you know, what kind of offense each side can

1597
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 6: have in the in the swamp here. We'll see what happens.

1598
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 6: But I think there's gonna be a lot of a

1599
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 6: lot of rain, all right.

1600
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, man. We'll talk to you probably after

1601
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: the holidays, because of course Jacksonville comes back up here

1602
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: right after Christmas. And look forward to talking to you again.

1603
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 6: And single ladies of Indianapolis please reach out. That's great.

1604
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: Well you will not tell them to mind their own business.

1605
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 6: I know you're always welcome.

1606
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: That's right. JP. Appreciate it, man, be good to see

1607
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: you guys. Man, that's our buddy. From Jaguars dot Com.

1608
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: By the way, JP Shadwick down in Jacksonville, really really good, dude.

1609
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: Obviously goes without saying, and that's interesting about the fact

1610
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: it's going to rain. One of the factors that we

1611
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: will look into that we will talk and get an

1612
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: idea better idea in terms of the health standpoint. The

1613
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: last piece of that, if you will, from Kevin, because

1614
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: Kevin bowen't going to join us. Just about twelve minutes

1615
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: from now, you know, there were it was last weekend.

1616
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: I thought for a late no, was it last weekend

1617
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: or two weeks ago when I looked at the slate

1618
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: of college football games and I'm like, man, for November,

1619
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: this is like a really week week I guess it

1620
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: was two weeks ago. Everybody was stepping out of conference.

1621
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 1: It was just there are no good games.

1622
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Thanksgiving break, no students would be in attendance.

1623
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, b why again, it's obviously a championship

1624
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: day tomorrow, and it's you know, it goes without saying. Alabama,

1625
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: Georgia will be fabulous, Ohio State, Indiana's can be great,

1626
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: Texas Tech and BYU may be a really good game.

1627
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: I feel bad because they're up against Alabama Georgia now

1628
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: NFL slaty games, Eddie.

1629
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 2: I'll be interested, Jake to see if like Notre Dame

1630
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: fans are more tuned into that game that you just mentioned,

1631
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 2: the Big East game, because it's kind of more implications

1632
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: for them than the Alabama Georgia game in my opinion,

1633
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: because as we highlighted on was that Wednesday.

1634
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: Because day BYU Tech Tech is Big twelve, That's what.

1635
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: I meant, Yeah, BYU Texas Tech. Yeah, because BYU wins,

1636
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 2: that would you know, theoretically bump Notre Dame out of

1637
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 2: the field because they would now jump Notre Dame and

1638
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:12,879
Speaker 2: get into the CFA.

1639
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: It is so hard to think of Notre Dame not

1640
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: being in. But let me give you our jailhouse game.

1641
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: Okay for the NFL. Now for those new to the program.

1642
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: If you've been, thank you, Eddie, but we thank you

1643
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: for being a part of it now. Si you like

1644
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: how I've adapted and add that ins we're welcoming, not

1645
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: just ridiculing hospitality, that's right. Yeah, So if you are

1646
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: new to the program, we call it the jailhouse game.

1647
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: That means if you were like a prison in give

1648
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: me a state that does not have a professional sports team.

1649
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: That's just kind of a state you hardly ever talk

1650
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: about Idaho.

1651
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: Idaho.

1652
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: So if you are in the Idaho State Prison of

1653
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: Pocatella and they're like, good news, guys, Sunday everybody was

1654
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: on the good behavior. We're gonna let you watch NFL game.

1655
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: What's the game that everybody's excited? And then they go

1656
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: in and they're like, oh, they gave us this game

1657
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: because it's not airing anywhere else. Nobody else cares. Which

1658
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: of these is the jailhouse game? You ready, I know

1659
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: the I already got my answer locked in. But see, automatically,

1660
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: automatically you say to yourself anything involving Tennessee or New

1661
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: Orleans because they're terrible, right, it's not that, okay, Seattle

1662
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: at Atlanta. Let me give you all the games, and

1663
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: then you tell me the one that is just theough matchup.

1664
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: Seattle at Atlanta, Cincinnati at Buffalo, Tennessee at Cleveland that

1665
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: is a high contender. Washington at Minnesota, Miami at the Jets,

1666
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: New Orleans at Tampa, the Colts at Jaggs, Pittsburgh at Baltimore,

1667
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: Denver at the Raiders, Chicago at Green Bay Rams at Cardinals,

1668
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: Texans at Chiefs, Eagles at Chargers. I'm going to guess

1669
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 1: Eddie that you are under the belief that the jailhouse game,

1670
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: it's one of two. If you don't believe that, you're

1671
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't involve Tennessee or New Orleans. Correct, Well,

1672
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: I can go that route, but you had a different

1673
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: one in mind. Correct, that's not one.

1674
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: Of those young Okay, but I think the easy one

1675
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 2: there that you mentioned is the high contender at Cleveland

1676
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 2: and Tennessee.

1677
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad. Yeah, I'm going to say that you

1678
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: are going with Miami and the Jets'. Correct, Yeah, that's

1679
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: hard to argue. The other one that is two teams

1680
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: that just are kind of mystifying is Washington at Minnesota

1681
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: because I still think Washington is decent, but they're not.

1682
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: They're terrible. And I know that Jayden Daniels has been

1683
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: hurt but he's back, but I know, but I mean,

1684
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: like it's just they can't get anything going. And then Minnesota,

1685
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Minnesota, come on, man, come on nine. JJ McCarthy.

1686
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: This is a frame franchise that let in the last

1687
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: two years, three years bypassed, and I'm not saying any

1688
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: of these guys are the next Joe Montana. But between

1689
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, and Daniel Jones, you had all

1690
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: of them in house and went with JJ McCarthy.

1691
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: I look pretty smart on letting kirk Cousins go agreed,

1692
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: except after the Achilles terror, Except for.

1693
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: The JJ McCarthy. I mean, listen, I've got I've got

1694
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson on my fantasy team. I say that not

1695
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: because anybody cares about your fantasy team, but because he

1696
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: is an elite talent and has done nothing this year,

1697
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: because he has no one throwing Uncle Rico's throwing him

1698
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: the ball.

1699
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 2: You know, the Indiana and Ohio State of the Krane

1700
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 2: Company Fantasy League or meeting right now in Ohio state

1701
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: got three touchdowns from Jamior Gibbs last night.

1702
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 3: Is that?

1703
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: Do you have Jamiir Gibbs. I know, I'm.

1704
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: Indiana on this Indiana in this scenario, I got twenty

1705
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 2: four or whatever it was from? Uh you know my kicker?

1706
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh did you?

1707
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: I did?

1708
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen going to join a couple of minutes, I

1709
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: let off the show by saying this, I love everything

1710
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: about this city, this state, the people, of it and

1711
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: the events that we have, and nobody puts on big

1712
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:16,799
Speaker 1: events better than Indianapolis, nobody. And I've seen that evolution

1713
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: that I've talked about of it. I mean, I've seen,

1714
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when the Indianapolis five hundred was

1715
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,440
Speaker 1: the signature event of this town. It still is, obviously

1716
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: and the single day, the largest single day spectator sport

1717
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 1: in the world. But there was a time where as

1718
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: Kurt Vonnegut once said, the city of Indianapolis was the

1719
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,879
Speaker 1: Indianapolis five hundred one day of the year and miniature

1720
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: golf the other three hundred and sixty four. But then

1721
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: we began to flex our muscles a little bit. The

1722
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty Final Four, the eighty two National Sports Festival,

1723
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: the eighty seven Pan Am Games, and every team in

1724
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 1: this market, virtually every team at some point has had

1725
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: their turn at the play, their seat at the table.

1726
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: The Colts were in relative anonymity, and then all of

1727
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: a sudden they break through in the mid nineties with

1728
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 1: the Letter Rip team and then into Peyton Manning and

1729
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: you know what happens from there. They ultimately win and

1730
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: bring a Lombardi back to Indianapolis and the city of

1731
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: Indianapolis hosts the Super Bowl. The Pacers same thing relative

1732
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: anonymity wants transferring into the NBA and then Hicks versus

1733
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Nixon onward and most recently a half away from an

1734
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: NBA title. Indiana basketball goes without saying three titles under

1735
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: Bob Knight Branch McCracken before that, and one of the

1736
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,839
Speaker 1: signature programs of this state. Indiana soccer as well women's

1737
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,440
Speaker 1: basketball now has put themselves in position elite. Eight performances

1738
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: Perdue football. I've seen Drew Brees take his team to

1739
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. I've seen Mark Herman be the most

1740
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,759
Speaker 1: valuable player of three different Bowl games in three consecutive years.

1741
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: You know, I know about what Jim Everett and some

1742
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: of the different you know, the cradle of quarterbacks of

1743
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Purdue football, Perdue basketball. When they went to the National

1744
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: championship game with Zach Edie, you know, we spent a

1745
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: show celebrating and letting Purdue fans push out their chest.

1746
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: Nore Dame football, even though not in the market, it's

1747
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 1: within the state and an elite, top level program for

1748
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: football with National Championship contention, Heisman Trophy winners galore. Butler

1749
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 1: has been to a Final Four right here in Indianapolis,

1750
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: and we become accustomed to hosting the Final Four in Indianapolis.

1751
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: And Gordon Hayward and the shot that nearly made it

1752
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: in the Cinderella Story, and Brad Stevens and all of it.

1753
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: Perdue Basketball wins a national championship. Damon Bailey has the

1754
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: Indiana High School Basketball Tournament getting moved to the RCA Dome,

1755
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: and ESPN picks it up. Everything in this town, in

1756
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: this market, at some point has had their turn in

1757
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the spotlight. The dancing spotlights across the skies of Indianapolis

1758
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 1: have at some point epicenter on nearly every team except

1759
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: for Indiana football, which going into this season still held

1760
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: the record for most losses in Division One. And they

1761
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: had moments. I talked about Terry Hefner and his vision

1762
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: in his belief and the tragedy that took place there

1763
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: Bill Mallory, who was a darn good football coach, and

1764
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: they went into Michigan State and had a chance to

1765
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 1: win a Big Ten title and Pete Steyanovich it's a

1766
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: field goal and the Michigan State goes nuts and wins

1767
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: the game and goes on Indiana had their moments, their

1768
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: fleeting moments, but we all knew deep down it was

1769
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 1: Indiana football. And now it is the time for you

1770
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: IU fans to push out your chest collectively, come together

1771
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: enjoy the game with Louisville and basketball, which whoever would

1772
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 1: have thought it was the precursor, the appetizer towards the

1773
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: Indiana football program taking on Ohio State one versus two

1774
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 1: Big Ten title on the line in a game which

1775
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: is essentially meaningless except for that it's not. And I

1776
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: understand for Ohio State fans why they can snicker at

1777
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: Indiana for getting excited just to see their name in

1778
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 1: the end zone. But it's what it represents because for

1779
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: so so many people that have watched so many teams

1780
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: and so many franchises and so many moments in the

1781
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 1: history of this market, the one thing they never thought

1782
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 1: they would see is Indiana football in the national spotlight.

1783
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: And here it is. And I say, soak it all in,

1784
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: soak it all in. Why not Indiana, Let's go. The

1785
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Colts are obviously in action today as well, and or

1786
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: this weekend as well, and they are at a spot

1787
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: that has been a nightmare for them in Jacksonville and

1788
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: the Jags putting it together a little bit here. Kevin

1789
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Bowen joining me now, Java House Peel and poor guest Line.

1790
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: He has been out at the Colts complex over the

1791
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: majority of the week for each and every session the

1792
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Colts have had. So Kevin will begin with this from

1793
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: a health standpoint other than Sauce Gardner, which is a

1794
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: big one. I realize it looks like things are starting

1795
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: to show to the right direction health wise for the Colts.

1796
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,520
Speaker 3: Agree.

1797
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, obviously have the guys on injured reserve. Those would

1798
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 12: be Forrest Buckner and Ashton Do and everybody else healthy.

1799
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 12: Fifty two out of fifty three guys good to go

1800
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 12: obviously the one is Sausage Gardner. Like you said, so yeah,

1801
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,560
Speaker 12: look to be really really healthy. Could get Jalen Carlis

1802
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 12: back potentially. He was a starter for this team at

1803
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 12: linebacker for a chunk o last season. I was viewed

1804
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 12: as supposed to be a starter this year. He could

1805
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 12: make his debut coming up on Sunday. So yeah, I'd say,

1806
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 12: you know, all in all, fairly healthy, obviously missing some

1807
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 12: key guys. Jacksonville likely misses some key guys as well,

1808
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 12: but still for early December, pretty good bill health.

1809
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Where would you assess their their quality of play and depth?

1810
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 1: I guess I mean we're you know, it's not like

1811
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 1: Sus Gardner some staple for them, right, but but we

1812
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: know that the level of talent there without him there

1813
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: and Mooney Ward's still trying to kind of find his

1814
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: way through coming off of the games that he missed

1815
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: due to the concussion. Where do you assess or put

1816
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: them at the defensive backfield, notably if they would have

1817
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: to go let's say, into a spot, you know, a

1818
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 1: reserve role and get some Yeah.

1819
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 12: I think it's a question that has a few more

1820
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 12: concerns and maybe it did a couple of months ago.

1821
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1822
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 12: I thought earlier in the year, Ta Various Ward was

1823
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 12: really really good, looked like a number one outside corner.

1824
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 12: And you know, since the bye week, and you know

1825
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 12: he has admitted this or did earlier in the week,

1826
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 12: he's just not playing at his normal self. And I

1827
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 12: know you've touched on it, and we've touched on in

1828
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 12: this man as del it's a ton off the field

1829
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 12: over the last you know, year plus it was just

1830
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 12: to beyond tragic loss of his young daughter and then

1831
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 12: suffered you know, a really serious concussion, the first two

1832
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 12: or the second of two concussions he's had this year.

1833
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 12: And you know, in the two games since his return,

1834
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 12: he just he frankly looks a step slow. So you know, again,

1835
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 12: where is he at? Where is he at for Sunday?

1836
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 12: And then you know, kennymore the second I think he

1837
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 12: is just he's a great, great NFL story. I think

1838
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 12: he has been so darn solid, probably one of the

1839
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 12: most solid Colts players in the entire Chris Dollar ten year.

1840
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 12: I just feel like lately maybe hasn't been as normal

1841
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 12: Kenny sticky, if you will, as we're used to from him.

1842
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 12: I don't think it's egregious by any means. And he

1843
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 12: plays a position where oftentimes if you see a little

1844
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 12: bit of slippage, it gets noticed easierly or easy easily.

1845
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 3: Than other positions.

1846
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 12: So you know, that would be where of my questions live.

1847
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 12: Just okay, you know, do you have two guys that

1848
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 12: have Pro Bowl, all Pro passed? Can they get back

1849
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 12: to that level without sauce? Probably for another couple.

1850
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: Games, Kevin. One of the things, and you tell me

1851
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: if I'm I know this will stun you. Overthinking this

1852
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: right with all of the conversation that we've had understandably

1853
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: so about Daniel Jones and the leg injury, or Sauce

1854
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: Gardner for that matter, in the calf strain, you know,

1855
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: and the other things that are going on. Alec Pierce.

1856
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: You had a you know, a really good column about

1857
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce now emerging is basically their their top wide

1858
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: receiver and we know he's in a contract here. Am

1859
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: I hallucinating here entirely possible? Or have we seen a

1860
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: little bit of a down tick or regression on the

1861
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: right side of the offensive line?

1862
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 12: No, I think you're No. I think that's a fair

1863
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 12: statement to make, you know, when you look at this

1864
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 12: season as a whole, I feel like from an offensive

1865
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 12: line standpoint, I think the unit's been pretty good. But

1866
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 12: I do think that right side, if you're going to

1867
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 12: kind of group the five out and then you know,

1868
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 12: obviously pick a side, yeah, I would say maybe that's

1869
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 12: not at the level that you would like. Now again,

1870
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 12: having said this, and it's kind of wow to think that,

1871
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 12: you know, the Colts didn't allow a sack last week

1872
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 12: to that vaunted defensive line, the same defensive line that

1873
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 12: sacked Josh Allen eight times. You know, They've won the

1874
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,879
Speaker 12: turnover margin each of the last two weeks, and Daniel

1875
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 12: Jones hobbled, Daniel Jones has been sacked one time, and

1876
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 12: yet they lost both games. It's it's just weird. It

1877
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 12: doesn't really add up. I mean, usually turnover margin is

1878
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 12: the number one indicator of a winner or loss. And

1879
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 12: then you know when you think, well, they won the

1880
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 12: turnover margin, but you know whatever they were sacks signs

1881
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 12: like they were in Pittsburgh back or or Atlanta. Uh,

1882
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 12: you know, that can be a big indicator of you know,

1883
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 12: do you actually win the game or not. Well, again,

1884
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 12: they getive play wise, they haven't really dealt with many stacks,

1885
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 12: so it probably goes to show you the offense has

1886
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 12: had some definite issues when you factor all of that in,

1887
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 12: and just the inability to move the football and really

1888
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 12: finish off anywhere near the rate they were earlier in

1889
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 12: the season. But yeah, I mean o line wise, I

1890
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 12: think you could say the right side, but you know,

1891
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 12: I don't think you made in the run game, honestly,

1892
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 12: not getting it as going as much as they were

1893
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 12: earlier in the year. You could probably say that, But

1894
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 12: I think pass protection it's honestly been Okay, considering Jones's

1895
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:42,480
Speaker 12: lack of mobility.

1896
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the lack of mobility,

1897
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, my guest, Java House Peel and poor guest

1898
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 1: line the you know Daniel Jones in the mobility thing now, Kevin,

1899
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 1: because and you could see it, right, I mean, you

1900
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: could see against Kansas City, It's like, man, he just

1901
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: he was he was pulling in the reins. When normal

1902
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 1: he would be able to extend a play by a

1903
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 1: yard or two or a moment or two or whatever.

1904
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: It may be right, and maybe it's power of suggestion,

1905
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: but it looked like he just was so much more

1906
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 1: quickly a boarding plays against Houston. Can they come up

1907
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: with or can Shane Stiken come up with or has

1908
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: he discussed different score sort of plays they can wrinkle

1909
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: in schematically to take the heat off of his reliance

1910
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: on having to extend plays.

1911
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I.

1912
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 12: Think you are seeing, you know, maybe Jones a little

1913
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 12: bit more quick rhythm with some of his progressions. Not

1914
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 12: living there's a line in that, you know, sometimes you're

1915
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 12: just forcing it into the first of the second read,

1916
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 12: and maybe if you trust it yourself a little bit more,

1917
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 12: you could get to that third or four to three,

1918
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 12: which could open it up. I guess you're playing with.

1919
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 5: A little fire at that point, you know.

1920
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 12: I did think, for what it's worth, Jones was moving

1921
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 12: a little bit better this week of practice.

1922
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Than he was last week.

1923
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 12: I think there is some hope, you know, from the

1924
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 12: Colts that you know, maybe here in a couple of

1925
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 12: weeks he could get back to, you know, being his self.

1926
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 12: Because you know, when you look at it, the Colts

1927
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,879
Speaker 12: have lost three of four the one win in that stretch.

1928
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 12: You could certainly make the argument a major, major reason,

1929
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 12: maybe the top reason outside of Johnson Taylor that the

1930
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 12: Colts beat the Falcons in Germany was Daniel Jones's ability

1931
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 12: to extend plays. I mean, he had some huge scrambles

1932
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Speaker 12: in the game. Obviously, we all, I think remember the

1933
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 12: overtime scramble that set up the fourth and two to

1934
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 12: Tyler Warren. But you know, even even before that, I

1935
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 12: thought he had some other, you know, kind of big

1936
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 12: plays in that game that he made with his legs.

1937
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 12: So I am curious, like if and when do we

1938
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 12: start to see a little more of that, you know,

1939
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 12: the bootleg stuff, you know, even the QB sneaks stuff,

1940
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 12: I mean the third and one to Tyler Warren, and

1941
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 12: I'm fine. A lot of people thought it was way

1942
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 12: too cute and everything. I think in today's NFL. And

1943
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 12: you know, you saw Tyler Warren do that at Penn State.

1944
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 12: I didn't have too big of an issue with him

1945
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 12: trying to sneak it. But you know, Daniel Jones is

1946
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 12: pretty much an automatic in the QBC this season, and

1947
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 12: I think a big reason why you know they didn't

1948
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 12: speak with him was because of his health. So you know, again,

1949
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 12: when do you get back to that from him or

1950
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 12: you know, when do you feel comfortable with that? So

1951
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 12: I think goes through all things that you know, maybe

1952
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 12: we don't see all of it on Sunday, but can

1953
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 12: you get back there at some point here in December?

1954
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Speaker 1: Now, Kevin, I know that you obviously grew up from

1955
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 1: a basketball standpoint. Your brother made you a Notre Dame

1956
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 1: basketball fan, right, But you went to IU Okay, during

1957
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: the time what year did you enter IU?

1958
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 12: I can't recall two thousand and eight and I graduated

1959
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 12: in a twelve three Big Ten wins?

1960
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Speaker 1: Okay, So were you were you at IU during the

1961
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 1: time that Bob Knight was coaching in Texas Tech.

1962
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely right two thousand and eight. I mean how

1963
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 12: long was night there?

1964
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 5: Night was there?

1965
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: From what oh one to right around then? I would think,

1966
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I could be.

1967
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:54,839
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say definitely.

1968
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe it was Pad.

1969
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 1: Did you did you pay attention to Texas Tech in

1970
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form during that time? For that reason?

1971
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 5: Sure? Yeah, I mean I brought it.

1972
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 12: I brought up on today's show today that you know,

1973
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 12: I might have to say the old Bob and I

1974
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 12: red sweater comment and watching Texas Tech football tomorrow because

1975
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 12: Notre Dame.

1976
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask you, is are you

1977
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: carrying on your fandom for Texas Tech because you need

1978
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: Eddie points this out, and I personally think that Notre

1979
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Dame is in. I just they are one of the

1980
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: twelve best teams in college football. I think they might

1981
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: be one of the eight best teams in college football.

1982
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: But my resume they might need some help here, and

1983
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: that help would be Texas Tech needs to go ahead

1984
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: and get pesky BYU to push them out the door

1985
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: and turn the lot key on him. Right, So how

1986
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 1: big a Texas Tech fan are you?

1987
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:41,759
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1988
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 12: I need to know the fight song. I need to

1989
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 12: you know, or do we have a hand signal that

1990
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 12: we do?

1991
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Speaker 3: What?

1992
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Speaker 9: Oh?

1993
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: Guns up? They got the guns up things right?

1994
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 12: Okay, guns up? I remember the Texas Tech bell ringer.

1995
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Speaker 12: I'm always nervous when I see that video though pop

1996
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 12: up on the internet. There, so yeah, guns up, Okay,

1997
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 12: I got You know, my wife is a bit big

1998
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,719
Speaker 12: Mormon wives watcher, the the television show.

1999
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 1: Well she's you better hope she's watching some disappointed wives. Right.

2000
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2001
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 12: I was gonna say, we need these wives, you know,

2002
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 12: crying for other reasons than their marital status or you know.

2003
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 12: So we don't need to get into any more than that,

2004
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 12: but yes, they need that. Now you bring up an

2005
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 12: interesting point. You just said they're one of the best

2006
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 12: twelve teams, maybe one of the best eight teams. I

2007
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 12: believe right now from a Vegas odds standpoint, they have

2008
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 12: the fourth best odds to win the national championship. Ohio

2009
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 12: State is the favorite, Indiana's close. Then I think there's

2010
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 12: a little drop. I believe Georgia's slightly above Notre Dame.

2011
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 12: Do you think that should matter at all? Do you

2012
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 12: think your committee should should like look at that or

2013
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 12: is that oh no, no, no, no, no.

2014
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Speaker 1: No, because I do think that and it is it

2015
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: is Kevin. It's hard to remember this, but the reality

2016
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 1: is this. Money lines and book lines are moved by

2017
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: where the money is going. And that speaks to Notre

2018
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 1: Dame's simply their fanfare, right and the amount of money

2019
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: that would be going on them.

2020
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Speaker 3: Right.

2021
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 12: So not to do with Notre Dame is capable of

2022
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 12: beating those scenes.

2023
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: It's more to do with Well, what I'm saying is

2024
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is it's just like the money, like

2025
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: like you know, hey, so and so is favored by

2026
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: twelve and then by the time the game kicks off,

2027
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, they're not only favored by three. Well,

2028
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: it's not because they got better, it's because the money

2029
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: was going in a certain direction and that changes the

2030
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: line and the odds that are placed on it, right,

2031
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: So I get it. I mean, look, and I do

2032
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 1: think that there is an element of I mean, for example,

2033
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 1: is Notre Dame better than Texas Tech? I have no idea,

2034
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: because to be honest with you, I haven't seen really

2035
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 1: any of Texas Tech. But it feels to me like

2036
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 1: they are because part of it is just a you

2037
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: hear about and you see more here obviously about the Irish,

2038
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 1: and I like Marcus Freeman and all that, but I

2039
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: do think that branding and precedent comes into play a

2040
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: little bit.

2041
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, obviously last year Alabama was

2042
01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 12: the first team left out, so that was kind of

2043
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 12: a at the old you know, hey, they're never going

2044
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 12: to leave Alabama out. They're never gonna leave Notre Dame

2045
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 12: out because that improves the ratings and all of that.

2046
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 12: You know, one thing with the committee that I do like,

2047
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 12: and I think it's been debated from an NCAA selection

2048
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 12: committee for the men's basketball tournament, is you do have

2049
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 12: four former college football coaches on the selection committee.

2050
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:21,480
Speaker 5: It's not just all ads.

2051
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 12: So my thought is these these former coaches are not

2052
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 12: necessarily you know, crunching computer numbers, are looking at strength

2053
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 12: of schedule here nice and who doesn't now you know again,

2054
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 12: pardon me, thinks that would help out Notre Dame based

2055
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 12: off what you said, and based off I think many

2056
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 12: people view them. But you know, clearly with these recent rankings,

2057
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 12: that's not how the committee is currently talking about them.

2058
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Kevin, I'm going to introduce for you, by the way,

2059
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 1: the You know this is I have a rotation of

2060
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: songs that I consider to be my favorite songs.

2061
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

2062
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 1: There's like five or six of them that comes on them. Man,

2063
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 1: that's such a great song we have now for Kevin Bowen,

2064
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: this is your favorite song for the weekend.

2065
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 3: Here we go.

2066
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: Not a bad sound.

2067
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 13: All forever go Red Raiders, Cky Love Loveic Yes we do,

2068
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 13: Bob Nightcliff Kings, Barry Patrick Mahomes, the Raven, Clark Texas Tech.

2069
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 12: It is Red Raiders, fight Fight, Fight, Fight, screw b Yu.

2070
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Yes, there you go, And that's exact lyrics. How did

2071
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: you know that was? That's a quick Google search there

2072
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: by the way, Lovick the hometown also a buddy Holly

2073
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 1: by the way, if you wanted to throw him into

2074
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:45,720
Speaker 1: that mix. Oh okay, Indiana, Ohio State. You look at it?

2075
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 5: How I like you?

2076
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 12: In all honesty, I think Ohio State just played their

2077
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 12: game of the year, and I just don't think this game.

2078
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 12: I think, yeah, sure they care about it, of course,

2079
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 12: but like it's a lot to read it back up,

2080
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:01,839
Speaker 12: Indiana has really been lugged for this game since what Oregon.

2081
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 12: So yeah, I think that will help you I think

2082
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 12: the fact that they'll get sat back, you know, potentially

2083
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 12: Drew Evans up front. You know, they've been a little

2084
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 12: banged up, you know, really over the last couple of weeks.

2085
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 12: So I think it's gonna be you know, I know,

2086
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 12: we get in this kind of crowd debate a lot

2087
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 12: with these neutral site games. I think there will be

2088
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:20,640
Speaker 12: more Indiana fans there and I think they will make

2089
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,799
Speaker 12: their presence felt. And for Ohio State, it's just another

2090
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 12: big ten you know, championship, and I get they have

2091
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 12: them one in a while, but I just think it, frankly,

2092
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 12: it matters more to Indiana. So yeah, I'll go Indiana

2093
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 12: in a those one.

2094
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: Okay. Lastly, Kevin, your son has made his pick yes

2095
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: or no?

2096
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 12: Yes, made a pick.

2097
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yep.

2098
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 12: We posted posted it last night.

2099
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 6: Okay.

2100
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,799
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not a fan of the Jags helmets.

2101
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of Kevin sending Max out in

2102
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: the snow.

2103
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: And I saw that I did see out in the

2104
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: cold yet, I mean, that's question not.

2105
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,799
Speaker 5: One of my finer finer moments.

2106
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 3: Luckily CPS has.

2107
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Not called meos you watching the Mormon Housewives.

2108
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 5: I guess right, exactly exactly.

2109
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 12: So he did go Colts again, which I don't know.

2110
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 12: I'm starting to think he gets a little biased. I

2111
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 12: did take out the Seahawks helmet last night. I'm curious

2112
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 12: if that eye will attract him at all.

2113
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: Which week is it the Seahawks helmet with the blue

2114
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: face mask.

2115
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 12: No, No, it's the it's the eye. It's the yeah,

2116
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 12: it's the long eye kind of takes up pretty much

2117
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 12: all the helmet.

2118
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 5: Okay, fair enough, all right, again, he hasn't seen.

2119
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 12: A lot of that, you know, the the NFC helmets,

2120
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 12: you know, he doesn't. He doesn't get you.

2121
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 6: The PG thirteen.

2122
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 1: He's got the Niners helmets after that too, and that's

2123
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 1: also a pretty intriguing helmet. We shall see as he.

2124
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 2: Put him on his dinosaurs and then they clash head head.

2125
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 12: Yeah he did that last week, and I mean last

2126
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 12: week I thought he might go Texans there, and he

2127
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 12: he should have as he was trying to make some

2128
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 12: money there. So seven and five on the air teetering

2129
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 12: just like the Colts. Very fitting.

2130
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 1: All right, we shall see what happens over the course

2131
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: of the weekend. I know you guys will be talking

2132
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 1: about first thing Monday morning, on the Fan Morning Show

2133
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 1: with Kevin as well as James Boyd and Jeff Rickard.

2134
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend, all right, Kevin, Thank you, Kevin Bellwen

2135
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: joining us on the program. Outstanding rendition of the Texas

2136
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: Tech Fight song. Before we get to and it is

2137
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: a Friday, It's a Franciscan feel good, good for the

2138
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 1: heart Friday and a really important discussion I want to

2139
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: get to you folks about in terms of getting set

2140
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 1: for the holidays and your heart health. But speaking of hearts,

2141
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to point this out before we move along today.

2142
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 1: Some heavy ones around this building and around this community.

2143
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: Certainly there should be for any of you when it

2144
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: comes to those that were under the quest to and

2145
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: the desire to be informed of what was happening within

2146
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: the government, certainly of this city and this state for

2147
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: nearly three decades. Back in two thousand and seven, I

2148
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 1: had the pleasure albeit not for very long, but I

2149
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Speaker 1: did have the pleasure of being a member of the

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Speaker 1: WIBC morning news program and working for WIBC, which was

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01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 1: a real thrill for me. It was notably a thrill

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01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: for me because and I got to work with Jeff

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01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Pigeon and Terry Stacey, and Big John Gillis, you know,

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01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: legendary people who ascended within the broadcast industry far beyond

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01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,759
Speaker 1: what I at that point had been to or ever

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01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 1: still to this day will be. And I have always felt,

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01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: personally speaking, selflessly speaking, that having WIBC, even though I'm

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01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 1: probably the only one that remembers that time on my resume,

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Speaker 1: having that on my resume gave me a validity, at

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Speaker 1: least personally speaking, because I knew of what that radio

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01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: station and the heritage of the WIBC Morning program meant

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01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: in this town, and certainly the news department of that

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01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: going way back to even before that time. It goes

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01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 1: without saying WIBC News and the long heritage there of

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01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: the individuals that made that the staple of you know,

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01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: Radio Indiana and everything that it's been in this town.

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01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 1: One of the people who worked there for twenty eight

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Speaker 1: years diligently and passionately and was a great teammate even

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Speaker 1: for the small amount of time that I worked with him,

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Speaker 1: was Eric Berman. Eric Berman was probably the smartest man

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01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: in broadcasting. He was, and I always love this about him,

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01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 1: a trivia buff who had been a champion on Jeopardy. Literally,

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01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 1: everybody says you should go on Jeopardy. Not to me,

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01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying to in general that euphemism, you should go

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01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: on Jeopardy. He did, and he won, and Eric had

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01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 1: a very pleasant demeanor about him. It would be disingenuous

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Speaker 1: for me to say that I knew him to the

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01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 1: level or the depth that colleagues did, because I didn't

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Speaker 1: work with him for an extended period of time. However,

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01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 1: during the time that I did that morning program, I

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01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:57,799
Speaker 1: was miscast. For certain I knew it. I think everyone

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01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 1: else knew it, but Eric Berman was one of them.

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01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 1: I remember pulling me aside and talking to me just

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01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: about the show itself and the direction and the way

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01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: that I handled things from a broadcast standpoint, and he

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01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 1: did so with a qualification of expertise and understanding of

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01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: the craft, while at the same time a compassion about

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01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: the importance of the craft but also the humanity of

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01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: being a person on the radio and kind of navigating

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01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 1: through that for me or offering his advice in the

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01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: most tender and kind hearted of ways. And this was

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Speaker 1: someone who had an intellect that was far, far, far

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01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: beyond anything that I could even comprehend. He took a

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01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: true passion in covering the Statehouse and making sure that

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01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 1: Hoosiers were informed of the issues going on around them

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01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: from a political standpoint, and he did so with the

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01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 1: professionalism of an objectivity where you knew that when he

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01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: reported something, it was true and it was fair. And

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Speaker 1: those are the two things that not only are the

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01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: ultimate testament to this craft, but also to a great extent,

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 1: an art that has faded to a great extent. Eric

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01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: worked for WIBC for twenty eight years. He left WIBC

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01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 1: and then went into other ventures in covering the State House,

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01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: but some over a decade ago or so, he had

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01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: a battle with cancer which had gone into remission. And today,

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01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 1: just before I got on the air, Dan McGowan, who

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01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: had been the producer on that morning show that I

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: was on, sent me the text that unfortunately he had

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Speaker 1: gotten the news this morning that Eric Berman has passed away.

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01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: And Eric Berman, when I think of him, I will

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01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 1: always think of this pleasant grin that he had on

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01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: his face when he was so always happy to answer

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01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: a trivia question or provide one. But it was never

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01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 1: a grin that cracked into an arrogance, but rather one

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01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: that simply stayed at the level of an appreciation and

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01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: an enjoyment. And he is someone that certainly from an

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01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: information standpoint, will be missed greatly within this area. I

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01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: think the listeners and the people, and for that matter,

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01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,440
Speaker 1: the political figures of this state owe him a tremendous

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01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:27,599
Speaker 1: amount in terms of gratitude. And for my colleagues within

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01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: this building, they will miss him, I know, a great deal.

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Speaker 1: But all of us will be fortunate to be able

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Speaker 1: to say that our professional paths did cross with Eric Berman.

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01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 1: So godspeed to him. After the news that he passed

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01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,560
Speaker 1: away this morning, we'll come back. It is a Franciscan

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01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: feel good, good for the heart Friday, and we'll do

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01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: it next. It is a Friday, It is the bottom

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01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: of the two o'clock hour. You know what that means.

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01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: It means it is time for a Franciscan health, feel good,

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01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: good for the heart Friday, as we do each and

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01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: every Friday. And I know, you know, everybody's feeling good

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01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: this time of year, because, as we've been talking about

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01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: all day, it's going to be a huge weekend. Colts

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01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: Jags on Sunday, Indiana, Ohio State tomorrow. That's not for

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01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 1: the faint of heart. It goes without saying. But of

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01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: course the holiday season is upon us as well, and

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01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: that becomes something where you have holiday heart syndrome. This

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01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 1: is something that is relatively new to me. I was

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01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: unaware of it, so I thought, why not bring on

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Speaker 1: one of our experts from Franciscan to talk about exactly that.

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Speaker 1: So joining me now on the guest line. He is

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01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: a cardio electro physiologist with Franciscan Health, doctor Phil George,

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01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: joining me on the program today. Doctor, how are you?

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01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 3: I'm great?

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01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on now.

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01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 1: I want to begin with this because Doc, I know

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01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: this is going to be surprising to you. I'm not

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01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: what one would say is necessarily like medically the smartest,

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01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, the sharpest tool in the shed. My understanding

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01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: is when it comes to cardiology, you got two kinds

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01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: of heart doctors. You've got the heart doctor that basically

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: does the plumbing, makes sure that everything is clean in

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01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 1: that regard, and then you have the one that is

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01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: the electrician to make sure that everything is beating at

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Speaker 1: the pace it needs to. You are the latter, Is

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Speaker 1: that correct?

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Speaker 3: That is correct?

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01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 14: I'm one of the electricians.

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01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 1: If you will, okay, so we're making sure the wiring

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01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: is all good here for everybody. I want to talk

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01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 1: about this with the holiday season, I heard the other

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01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 1: day and that's why I reached out to Franciscan and

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01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 1: you guys are so good at explaining different and making

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01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 1: people aware of different heart things, like we're going to

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01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 1: do on Sunday, by the way, from twelve until two

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01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: o'clock for our Franciscan November Health Fare for Men at

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01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 1: Gougman House Brewing. Hope everybody's going to be there for that.

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01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: But holiday heart syndrome, doctor, what can you tell me

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01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 1: about this term that is new to me?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so classically, holiday heart syndrome really just refers to

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01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 14: the development of abnormal heart rhythms that oftentimes occurred during

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Speaker 14: the holidays and that are associated with essentially increased alcohol intake.

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Speaker 14: And the rhythm that we're you usually referring to as

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01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 14: far as abnormal, is what we call atrial fibrillation. And

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01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 14: so with the holidays coming up, right, people at parties

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01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 14: and events planned right, people want to enjoy themselves. They're

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01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 14: going to have a couple of drinks and maybe they

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01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 14: drink a little bit more than they're used to drinking,

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01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 14: and that's oftentimes what patients can develop some of these

2280
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 14: abnormal heart rhythms, specifically what we call atrial fibrillation, and

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01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 14: atrial fibrillation. We don't consider it an imminently dangerous or

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01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 14: life threatening rhythm disturbance, but it is an abnormal heart rhythm.

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01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 14: It can cause symptoms and if untreated, can sometimes lead

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Speaker 14: to the development of strokes and individuals, particularly over an

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01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 14: individual's lifetime, that particular rhythm increases that individual's risk of stroke.

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Speaker 1: I want to get back to the relation between you know,

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01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 1: I think we all know, doctor clearly, most people know

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01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 1: that when you start talking about alcohol consumption, you know,

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01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: moderation is key. You know, probably none is key. But

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01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 1: for those that are going to be consuming an alcoholic beverage,

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01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 1: I am curious the relationship between. I know that alcohol

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01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: is a depressant and then it can slow things down

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01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. What is the direct correlation, if you will,

2294
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: to how it can impact the pacing or exactly what

2295
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about, the electricity if you will, of the heart.

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01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, so it's a great question, and you know, sort

2297
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 14: of the way that I try to explain it to

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01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 14: patients that I see in my clinic is that you

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01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 14: can think of it as sort of like a low

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01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 14: level withdrawal, particularly for individuals that sort of like binge

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01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 14: drink again during the holidays, you know, and alcohol, like

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01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 14: you said, it is essentially a depressant, and it because

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01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 14: of its impact on sort of neurotransmitters, adrenaline levels in

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01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 14: the body and oxidative stress, it can increase the risk

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01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:06,839
Speaker 14: of these rhythm disturbances, particularly after patients have stopped drinking.

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01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 14: Because of this sort of like low level withdrawal is

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01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 14: a way that I can sort of describe it.

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01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Well. With that doctor Doctor Philip George is my guest

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01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: by the way, from Franciscan Health. We're talking about holiday

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01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 1: heart syndrome and that withdrawal if you will, after one

2311
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 1: has gone through a night of drinking or binge drinking.

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01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: To your point, especially if it's somebody who's not used

2313
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: to that. You know, you have your normal symptoms of

2314
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 1: the quote unquote hangover, right, and so somebody's just kind

2315
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: of feeling nauseous or whatever it may be the next day.

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01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: What warning signs are there or symptoms that in fact

2317
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 1: holiday heart syndrome may be in effect that somebody should

2318
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 1: look out.

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01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 14: For Yeah, So as it relates to atrial fibrillation, probably

2320
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 14: the most sort of sensitive indicator is that sensation of

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01:57:55,800 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 14: what we call palpitations, or the subjective feeling of actually

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01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 14: sensing your heart beating. You know, most of the time,

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01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 14: you know, over the course of a regular day, most

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01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 14: individuals are not going to feel their heart beating. But

2325
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 14: if patients go into abnormal heart rhythms, sometimes they can

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01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 14: sense their heart beating erratically, and that's probably the most

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01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 14: sensitive indicator that a patient may have gone into atrial

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01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 14: fibrillation as a result of holiday heart But patients can

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01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 14: have other symptoms associated with it that are probably less specific.

2330
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 14: So if a patient has or if a person I

2331
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 14: should say, has symptoms of fatigue or breathlessness, that can

2332
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 14: sometimes be associated with this as well. But there are

2333
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 14: also a handful of folks that will go into atrial

2334
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 14: fibrillation and not have any symptoms whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: So there's going to be a.

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01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 14: Spectrum of individuals that are going to be very symptomatic,

2337
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 14: minimally symptomatic, and have no symptoms whatsoever. But I would

2338
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 14: say probably the most sensitive or specific I would say,

2339
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 14: is going to be the sensation of palpitations, What is.

2340
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 1: The treatment for it? You know, somebody notices this and

2341
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: maybe they immediately say I need to go to my

2342
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 1: doctor or it is you know, I guess the two

2343
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 1: part question doctor would be number one, how are you

2344
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 1: then able to determine that somebody has gone, you know,

2345
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 1: is suffering from holiday heart syndrome? And then what would

2346
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: the treatment be once you're able to figure out that

2347
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 1: there may be an issue?

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01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, So if patients happen to go into atrial fibrillation

2349
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 14: and develop the sort of holiday heart syndrome, there are

2350
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 14: a number of things that we can do to get

2351
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 14: patients back into rhythm. First of which is just using medication.

2352
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 14: So there are several different medications that we could either

2353
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 14: prescribe and you can pick up from your pharmacy or

2354
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 14: if you come to the hospital the er they can

2355
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 14: administer through an IV that can help slow the heart

2356
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 14: rate down right, alleviate those palpitations, and oftentimes will help

2357
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 14: convert patients back into a normal rhythm. Apart from that,

2358
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 14: there are also procedures that we can do called oblations

2359
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 14: to help treat these rhythm disturbances, but usually as it

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Speaker 14: relates to holiday heart syndrome, if we think that the

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Speaker 14: trigger with alcohol consumption, if we encourage patients to try

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Speaker 14: to minimize alcohol intake, oftentimes these things will sort of

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Speaker 14: get better.

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Speaker 3: On their own.

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Speaker 1: Doctor George is my guest cardio electrophysiologist from Franciscan Health doctor.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about holiday heart syndrome and especially let's

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Speaker 1: say somebody's listening and they say, hey, I'm aware of

2368
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Speaker 1: the fact that this alcohol consumption or binge consumption, sometimes

2369
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Speaker 1: maybe even more than I had planned on having to drink,

2370
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Speaker 1: can become a factor. Is there anything that one can do,

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Speaker 1: either preventatively or even after the fact. I don't want

2372
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 1: to say self medicate, but maybe from a dietary standpoint

2373
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 1: that could help or assist in this throughout.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.

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Speaker 14: Would say short of decreasing alcohol intake, there isn't really

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02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 14: anything that you would be able to take, you know,

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02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 14: or ingest sort of over the counter that may help

2378
02:00:55,880 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 14: to mitigate the severity of the episode. Oftentimes, you know,

2379
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 14: in a lot of instances, these things will fortunately get

2380
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:06,440
Speaker 14: better on their own, but that's not always the case,

2381
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 14: meaning that sometimes patients or an individual will have to

2382
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 14: come to the hospital to get some sort of intervention

2383
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 14: to help terminate the episode and get that individual.

2384
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 3: Back into a normal rhythm.

2385
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 14: But as far as yeah, things to consume or not

2386
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 14: consume afterwards, short of just you know, avoiding alcohol, that's

2387
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 14: really the first thing that we would tell an individual.

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02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, doctor, you know, so many people, I think

2389
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 1: when they hear heart, they think immediately in the winter time,

2390
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: people think, oh, shoveling snow and you know, heart attacking

2391
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:40,760
Speaker 1: those things. And I think that unfairly there is, especially

2392
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:42,560
Speaker 1: when you're doing a sports talk radio show, there's the

2393
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:44,720
Speaker 1: thought that like, this is a man's issue, this is

2394
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 1: a male thing, you know, I know, for those that

2395
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 1: are listening to the program with you know, wives, daughters,

2396
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 1: or for females that are listening as well. The reality

2397
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:58,280
Speaker 1: is that heart disease is also something that can affect

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02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 1: and does affect women. The symptoms any different for a

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02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 1: woman than a man, and or the treatments any different

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02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 1: from woman to man.

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02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, So as it relates to this, we actually would

2402
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 14: sort of you know, group individuals sort of together so

2403
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 14: we don't necessarily see any sort of discrepancies in the

2404
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 14: burden in males versus females. We say it's sort of

2405
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 14: an equal offender, you know, so, and as far as

2406
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 14: treatments are concerned, we would generally treat individuals the same.

2407
02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 14: As it relates to patients that have coronary artery disease

2408
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 14: and art attacks, particularly in females, those individuals can present

2409
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 14: with different symptoms. But as it relates to atual fibrillation

2410
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 14: and holiday heart oftentimes there's a lot of overlap. And

2411
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 14: like I said, there's a spectrum of what patients may feel.

2412
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 14: Some are going to be very symptomatic, so minimally symptomatic.

2413
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 14: But if something feels off, you know, in those instances,

2414
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 14: we they call your doctor, you know, come to the er,

2415
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 14: get evaluated, because you're going to know your body better

2416
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 14: than anybody else, and if something just doesn't seem right,

2417
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 14: then that's the best time to come in to get evaluated.

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02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 1: Doctor around here, everybody's heart's going to feel better. If

2419
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 1: Indiana beats Ohio State on Saturday, that's going to happen, right.

2420
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 9: That's yeah, for sure, that's going to happen.

2421
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:21,440
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna happen.

2422
02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: That is the official. That's the sports take of the day,

2423
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:28,760
Speaker 1: right there, definitely going to happen, says doctor George from

2424
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:30,480
Speaker 1: Franciscan Health. But of course they got to play the

2425
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 1: game on the field first. Doctor. The most important thing

2426
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 1: is win or lose. We want to make sure that

2427
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: everybody is winning during the holidays and they are being

2428
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 1: safe and they are aware of holiday heart syndrome, the

2429
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: alcohol intake and everything that goes with it. I certainly

2430
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,880
Speaker 1: appreciate the time on a very important subject matter and

2431
02:03:46,920 --> 02:03:49,040
Speaker 1: always appreciate the time from Princiscan Health.

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02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 14: Likewise, this has been great, Thank you so much.

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02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 1: Appreciate it so much again, Doctor Phil Jarge, who is

2434
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 1: a cardio electro physiologist for Franciscan Health. We'll come back,

2435
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 1: We'll find out with jmv's got cooking. We'll get you

2436
02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 1: set up one last time for the weekend of football

2437
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: that is upon us here on this Friday edition Aquaring Company.

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Speaker 1: Guess what Tomorrow's the new today? Because J and V's

2439
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Speaker 1: actually at tiebreakers right now as we speak. Crossover brought

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2447
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 1: a small job, whether it be a furnace clean something

2448
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 1: like that, they're not gonna make it a big job.

2449
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:40,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna be honest with you and take care of you.

2450
02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 1: J ANDV joins us now. He is at Tiebreakers, Indy

2451
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 1: new spot three point thirty nine mass Ave and it

2452
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:51,680
Speaker 1: is the place to be John all weekend is going

2453
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 1: to be downtown Indy.

2454
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 15: Let me tell you this to Rob is also the

2455
02:04:55,680 --> 02:04:59,000
Speaker 15: owner of the whistle Stop. And Rob is the old

2456
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 15: place Tiebreaker here. So if you know the whistle Stop,

2457
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:03,960
Speaker 15: but we've been there a number of times and live shows,

2458
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 15: that is Rob here and Wayne is here. There are

2459
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 15: co owners, but Rob owns whistle Stop and this is

2460
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:12,120
Speaker 15: run across from Bakersfield on mass Ave.

2461
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 5: Here it's called Tiebreakers. And if you know anything.

2462
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,960
Speaker 15: About Rob and what he does, I mean they go

2463
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:21,200
Speaker 15: absolutely to the highest of levels. This is a fantastic

2464
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 15: place and a great venue to have a Budlight Blue Friday.

2465
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, listen, I'm looking right now. On their

2466
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:31,839
Speaker 1: Facebook page that food looks outstanding, beyond outstanding at Tibrie.

2467
02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, you just know, you know the history

2468
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 15: of whistle Stop and we'll talk about that with Rob

2469
02:05:36,720 --> 02:05:39,240
Speaker 15: a little bit later on too, But I mean, he

2470
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 15: did you bring so much of that same elite level

2471
02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:46,480
Speaker 15: quality to a place like this, and mass Av continues

2472
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 15: to get better and better. But this is the absolute

2473
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 15: heart of mass Av where we are right now.

2474
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:52,440
Speaker 5: So it is.

2475
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 15: It is awesome. I'm proud to be here. I did

2476
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 15: want to give a shout out Jake really quick. We're

2477
02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 15: at the garage in Columbus yesterday and many people, I

2478
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:05,080
Speaker 15: gotta think because it was spectacular. It was and sometimes

2479
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:07,320
Speaker 15: you question whether or not our signal even gets down there.

2480
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 5: But Robin the owner and.

2481
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 15: We had Spencer Thompson and Thompson Furniture come out. He

2482
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 15: made us all yetties, you have an Iu Jetti get.

2483
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 15: He made thermous wise for you as well. He made everybody,

2484
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 15: all the shows, all the producers yeties. And you know

2485
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:24,680
Speaker 15: Matt from Triple A came out and I think who

2486
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 15: else Christian was from Brown County Music Center. It was

2487
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 15: awesome and I can't wait to go back. And it

2488
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:32,400
Speaker 15: just takes people and we all get together and have

2489
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 15: a good time on the radio, and it makes it

2490
02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 15: even extra special.

2491
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:37,560
Speaker 5: And yesterday was down in Columbus.

2492
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:39,560
Speaker 1: By the way, six dollars burger with waffle fries at

2493
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:42,080
Speaker 1: tie breakers, and those burgers look outstanding. And don't even

2494
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 1: get me started on I mean, I'm looking right here

2495
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 1: at the ribs and the nachos and got made.

2496
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 15: Watch you just come come over here and you can

2497
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 15: hang out and do it like a second show and

2498
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 15: be a co So I guess you' all hammer locked.

2499
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:55,440
Speaker 15: I'm good at that. I think I think Hay is

2500
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 15: gonna show up. He mentioned maybe Trisha Whitaker is going

2501
02:06:57,560 --> 02:06:59,720
Speaker 15: to show up a little bit later on too. So yeah, well,

2502
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 15: the we'll put you half in the bag over here

2503
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 15: a little bit late.

2504
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 5: We're Shannon. We'll get Shannon half in the bag too.

2505
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: Yes, actually about five minutes now, throw on the radio.

2506
02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get her over here to have a little

2507
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,520
Speaker 5: fun with it. So, no, we've never seen anything like

2508
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 5: this joke. I mean, seriously, as far as I us

2509
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 5: can never see anything like this.

2510
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:22,800
Speaker 1: It's John. I never thought i'd see it, man, I mean,

2511
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 1: listen the for for seventy five years, the most pinnacle

2512
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 1: moment of Indiana football was a cameo spot in the

2513
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 1: background of breaking Away right and now here they are.

2514
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I never would have remember.

2515
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 15: I think three years ago you and I were talking

2516
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:39,879
Speaker 15: that you know, if you were ever just Bowl eligible,

2517
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 15: that was going to be enough. Totally now can now

2518
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 15: consider what we're talking about. It is incredible.

2519
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: And then even.

2520
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 15: When you had a taste of it during COVID and

2521
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 15: that really strange kind of Tom Allen winning season and

2522
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:53,840
Speaker 15: you know, l e O and.

2523
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 5: All that, and you know that had a quick fade.

2524
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 15: But this has got staying power right now because it

2525
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 15: seems like, as Brett Stevens used to say, everybody has

2526
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 15: to be pushing in the same direction and everybody and

2527
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 15: it seems like now down there, everybody's pushing in the

2528
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 15: same direction they are.

2529
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:10,880
Speaker 1: It's going to be a ton of fun. Gives us

2530
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:13,200
Speaker 1: plenty to talk about. A Monday and a huge party

2531
02:08:13,360 --> 02:08:17,120
Speaker 1: celebration atmosphere downtown tie breakers on Mass Savage where JMB

2532
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,160
Speaker 1: will be and we'll be there. We'll throw it out

2533
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:21,280
Speaker 1: to you in just a couple minutes here John, Thanks

2534
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 1: pal right, JV will be taking things over here. Thanks

2535
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 1: again to Kevin Bowen as well as JP Shattered, Chris

2536
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: Diddo for joining me on the program today, and Todd

2537
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: Blacklet's really good conversation about that and breaking down this game.

2538
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:36,240
Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of it. You folks have a

2539
02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 1: wonderful weekend. Hope to see you out and about downtown

2540
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:41,000
Speaker 1: Indianapolis over the course of the weekend, and we will

2541
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 1: talk to you on Monday. I appreciate you listening to

2542
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:43,800
Speaker 1: a quarying company