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Speaker 1: The head coach. He is Rick Carlisle coach. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: How are you okay?

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Speaker 1: Last night?

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Speaker 3: The effort to get back in it, I thought it

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Speaker 3: was one of your better bench performances of the season.

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Speaker 3: What do you see from some of those individuals, and

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Speaker 3: just in general, you guys getting it to a point

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Speaker 3: where you know you obviously had a shot to force

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Speaker 3: it in overtime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the second half was way better than the first half.

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Speaker 2: The only gotta do a better job at closing quarters.

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Speaker 2: We had We had worked hard to get the lead

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Speaker 2: back at the end of the first and then had

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Speaker 2: a couple of miscues that put us down I think

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Speaker 2: three points, and just you know, the ability to play

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Speaker 2: from in front is always important in NBA games. Second

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Speaker 2: quarter was our bad quarter. We lost by thirteen, and

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Speaker 2: so that got us, you know, a sixteen point deficit,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, coming out of a halftime, we

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Speaker 2: just said, he said, look, let's let's go out there

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Speaker 2: and win the first five minutes and then and then

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Speaker 2: go from there and and get ourselves back into this thing.

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Speaker 2: And uh, the guys fought hard. We had we had

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Speaker 2: a lot of good performances off the bench. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: and uh, gave ourselves a chance, but a disappointing ending.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, at nine seconds left, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Ben misses, the Ben gets a good look in the

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Speaker 2: corner of the shot misses, and Pascal goes up for

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Speaker 2: the rebound and gets thrown to the floor. And then

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Speaker 2: there's a miss a miss. Well, there's a there's a

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Speaker 2: no call of a foul that should have been called.

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Speaker 2: And so that was that was disappointing too. But in

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Speaker 2: stretches like this, you know a lot of things don't

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Speaker 2: go your way and you just gotta you gotta stay

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Speaker 2: positive and you gotta keep slugging.

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Speaker 4: Rick to that point when you know you're gonna get

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Speaker 4: a too minute report that you might not like.

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Speaker 1: What's your reaction to just that part of it?

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, we have a we have a ratings

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Speaker 2: system that comes out every day for every time there's

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Speaker 2: a game, and you know that's that's an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: reflect your your feelings about things and give h you know,

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Speaker 2: give give the feedback. And so look, it's disappointing, but

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Speaker 2: you know the referees they're not trying to miss calls.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just a it's the men not machines

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Speaker 2: proposition a very difficult job, thousands of events that happened

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Speaker 2: over forty eight minutes with the clock, you know, ticking,

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, you got to hope that you've

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Speaker 2: you've stacked enough good plays to be able to absorb

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Speaker 2: a situation like that. But you know, last night that

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Speaker 2: was that was not the case. I I knew about

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Speaker 2: it after the game. I didn't go into it with

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Speaker 2: the media because you know, uh, yeah, right now, we

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Speaker 2: can't just be into sour grapes. You know, We've got

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Speaker 2: to we've got to find ways to get to get

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Speaker 2: better each day.

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Speaker 4: To that point, Rick, looking at the knight that Jarris

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Speaker 4: Walker had, it was a very positive night for him overall.

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Speaker 4: What did you like about how he pick and shows

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Speaker 4: his spots on both sides of the floor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of his better games for sure, and shows

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Speaker 2: what he's capable of. And uh, you know, we need him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is uh, this is a great opportunity

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Speaker 2: for him. I mean we've we've kind of labored that

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Speaker 2: whole thing on this show many times, and uh, last

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Speaker 2: night was terrific and he was a big reason we

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Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle with the Arrogan Pacers North of the Border

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Speaker 3: coming up tomorrow, it'll be the Toronto Raptors, who've been very,

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Speaker 3: very good to start this season. And Rick is with

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Speaker 3: us year on the Paylosslickers hot line. You started Andrew

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Speaker 3: nemmart on Kate Cunningham last night, Coach, and I know

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Speaker 3: you talked about with us in the off season just

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Speaker 3: how much you put on Andrew's plate. And part of

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Speaker 3: it is, frankly, I don't know how many other options

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Speaker 3: you have, but how do you kind of balance Andrew's

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Speaker 3: offensively in all the responsibilities that you probably need him

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Speaker 2: Well, last night there was really no choice. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, we have all the numbers of all the

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Speaker 2: guys that have guarded Cunningham and it's not even close.

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Speaker 2: We had to have Andrew guarding him, and so you know,

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Speaker 2: he did a tremendous job. And if you really watch

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Speaker 2: We may be able to alleviate, you know, the matchup situation,

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Speaker 2: maybe for short stretches during the game. I think Walker

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Speaker 2: guard him a little bit last night, but you know,

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Speaker 3: You said post game last night that it's a hard

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Speaker 3: league right now to score in. Is that with how

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Speaker 3: the game has been like officiated early in the season,

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Speaker 3: what you're seeing defensively, I was kind of curious if

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Speaker 2: Right now, Well, we're hav control scoring so and look,

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Speaker 2: I mean right now, with with our challenges, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: We've got to be square and not getting our hands

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Speaker 2: then you know, we we've got to avoid miscues on offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, first half last night, we had some really

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Speaker 2: these things pile up quickly, and you know, a couple

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Speaker 2: And so but those are those are avoidable things. We'll

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Speaker 4: We saw an update from halla Burton share via his

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Speaker 4: social media with him dunking using his right leg right Achilles.

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Speaker 4: He obviously ruptured in Game seven of the finals. Your

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Speaker 2: He's doing great. He's great. I mean he was. He

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Speaker 2: So it's it's great to see and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll look forward to having him back next year.

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Speaker 3: Pacers again in Toronto coming up tomorrow night. Then they'll

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Speaker 3: be at home and get the tree lighting game on Friday.

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Speaker 3: It'll be Washington in Chicago coming up this weekend. Coach

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Speaker 3: in general with Pascal this season and obviously the tyres

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Speaker 3: lass I would assume is impacting this. How much more

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Speaker 3: just doubling or attention are you seeing around how teams

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Speaker 3: are defending Pascal Siakam.

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Speaker 2: Touns. I mean, you know, he's he's getting double team

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it's uh, you know, we we've really

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Speaker 2: us by playing faster. You know, we can, we can

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Speaker 2: can't do that at the expense of unnecessary and controllable turnovers,

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Speaker 2: you saw last night Sark Thompson is all over all

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Speaker 2: of excess. Referees didn't agree with me, but it was

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Speaker 2: it was over the top with physicality, and so you know,

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Speaker 2: we've got to try to protect those guys.

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Speaker 3: Coach will end of this and obviously a happy Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: to you and the family. You know, annually the Pacers

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Speaker 3: are super out in the community this time of year.

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Speaker 1: We saw Aaron E.

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Speaker 3: Smith I think took over for hosting the dinner you

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Speaker 3: guys do there in the lobby. I know Lloyd Pierce

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Speaker 3: has got his coat drive coming up next week for you.

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Speaker 3: The latest on driving Dish. We've talked about the food

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Speaker 3: insecurities around Marion County and even it's expanded outside of

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Speaker 3: that here over the last year or so.

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Speaker 1: What's new is driving dish.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've mentioned that. You know, last summer we got

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Speaker 2: an amazing amount of support from ownership. They they put

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Speaker 2: ten million into the program to assure that it goes

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Speaker 2: on for a long time. It has expanded outside Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: We've raised more money each year, and we streamlined the

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Speaker 2: we're very proud of it. And you know, this time

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Speaker 2: of year is when it's really important because Indiana does

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Speaker 2: not have a food shortage, but the people that need

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Speaker 2: food suffer because the logistics are challenging, and so driving

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Speaker 2: dish facilitates the logistics that bring food to people that

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Speaker 2: need it. So we're very happy about that and we

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Speaker 2: hope people take advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a must have? A must go to?

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Speaker 1: On the plate of Rick Carlisle for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much basic stuff. Just only request they have is

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Speaker 2: that the pumpkin pie is chilled?

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Speaker 1: No chilled pumpkin pie? Are you a whip cream action?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, why not?

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Speaker 4: That's usually the reaction right on Thanksgil? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 3: You know at that point you might as well throw

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Speaker 3: that on top pacers up in Toronto coming up tomorrow

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Speaker 3: and again home games this weekend with Washington and Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Coach safe travels and appreciate the time. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Likewise, you guys, take care,