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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is interesting. Poor sleep can age your

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, I'm one hundred years old.

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Speaker 1: It's Kenny Casey, joh and Rob, that's Casey. So study

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Speaker 1: Fines has this article that I guess some group in Sweden.

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Speaker 1: It's always Sweden, right, did some sort of study. They

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Speaker 1: studied brain scans and sleep patterns of more than twenty

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Speaker 1: seven thousand middle aged and older adults in the UK,

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Speaker 1: and what they found is the people who had poor

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Speaker 1: sleep habits had brains that looked older than their actual age.

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Speaker 2: Moderately, poor sleepers had brains about seven months older on average.

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Speaker 2: So again, I'm like a rotisserie chicken and I was

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Speaker 2: just flopping around. So that's the case. Yikes, I'm in

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Speaker 2: for some trouble.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how many hours and night do you do?

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Speaker 2: I get sleep? Or do I try? Yeah? Oh?

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Speaker 1: How much do you actually think you sleep in a night?

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Speaker 2: Probably four to five hours total? Yeah? Of actual sleep?

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Speaker 2: Do you I try to get at least six or seven? Now? No? No?

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Speaker 1: Does that count your I know you cheat in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the day and take a nap. I do

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Speaker 1: you do? Do you count that as your total?

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Speaker 2: I get better sleep during the day than I do

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Speaker 2: at night. Well, that's what I'm asking I'm sure one

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Speaker 2: is because of the other.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm asking you is when you're when

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Speaker 1: you say four to five hours, are you counting your

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Speaker 1: nap or you get four to five hours and my nap.

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Speaker 2: No, the four to five is just at night, right.

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Speaker 1: So collectively, how much would you say you sleep during

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Speaker 1: the day.

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Speaker 2: During the day when I don't have the total the whole.

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Speaker 1: Day, casey, in a twenty four hour period, how much

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Speaker 1: would you say you sleep?

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Speaker 2: Probably six six and a half.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I would guess that's in the middle ranger, because

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Speaker 1: I don't. They say you're supposed to get eight eight

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Speaker 1: hours of sleep total. Okay. More than half fell into

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Speaker 1: the intermediate category with two or three healthy sleep characteristics.

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Speaker 1: They based your sleep score on five key factors, being

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Speaker 1: an early bird rather than a night owl, getting seven

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Speaker 1: to eight hours of sleep per day, rarely experiencing insomnia,

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Speaker 1: not snoring, not feeling accessibly sleepy during the day.

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Speaker 2: How about you, where would you score on this?

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Speaker 1: Well, Kevin and I were talking about this before we

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Speaker 1: went on the air. The problem I have everything you

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Speaker 1: ever asked me will start with the problem I have

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Speaker 1: is I had such a weird like just existence for

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Speaker 1: so long where I was a self employed I was

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Speaker 1: a business owner, but I wasn't a business owner like

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Speaker 1: I have a factory that I go to every day

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Speaker 1: and I have to be there. Like I literally worked

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Speaker 1: out of my house for basically a decade.

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Speaker 2: So is it hard to turn it off?

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't like I just sleep whenever I wanted. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: my primary actual work was really like Fridays and Saturdays,

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Speaker 1: but during the week I didn't have I think most

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Speaker 1: people know this. I owned a company for years that

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Speaker 1: streamed high school and college sporting events on the internet,

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Speaker 1: when I was very groundbreaking when you know, not everybody

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Speaker 1: had a cellular telephone in their hand or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: like I could. I could step up till three and

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Speaker 1: then I could sleep till noon. It was no problem.

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Speaker 1: Like it didn't it was time was time was irrelevant

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Speaker 1: to me. And the problem is I got used to

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Speaker 1: being able to do that, and now, as an adult

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Speaker 1: with responsibilities, I can't do that. But I think something

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Speaker 1: now they frowned on you. If you just leave your

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Speaker 1: two year old to their own brothers and take a nap.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, that's not so great. Can't do that.

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Speaker 1: What is the advantage of getting up early? That's what

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Speaker 1: I would love being.

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Speaker 2: An early bird because I don't know I have something

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Speaker 2: to do with your rhythm.

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Speaker 1: What I can't figure out is this, So it's dark

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Speaker 1: now until like eight am in Indiana. When you drive,

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Speaker 1: like I guess in the summer, maybe more daylight hours,

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Speaker 1: more sunshine. I don't understand that though. What difference it

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Speaker 2: The study said that men are more affected than women

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Speaker 2: by poor sleep and their brain aging.

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Speaker 1: Totally. I'd agree with that, you think, so do you ever?

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Speaker 1: Do you what?

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Speaker 2: Nearly sixty percent of the people who participated in this

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Speaker 2: study said that they had less than ideal sleep. Oh,

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Speaker 2: totally common issue, and I would think it's getting worse.

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Speaker 1: But I also think I have to factor in the

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Speaker 1: nap I take normally in the middle of the day, Like,

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Speaker 1: doesn't that count towards my sleep.

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Speaker 2: You're overall sleep.

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Speaker 1: For like, if I only get four or five hours

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Speaker 1: I have to count that, right, because.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your total days sleep, right.

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Speaker 1: It's the same, the same thing. My problem I have

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Speaker 1: is I wake up And I never used to do

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Speaker 1: this before. Livy is I wake up in the middle

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Speaker 1: she's not a problem with this anymore. But I just

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Speaker 1: instinctively wake up in the middle of the night and

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Speaker 1: then like it takes me an hour to go back

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Speaker 1: to sleep. There's no rhyme or reason for it, like

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Speaker 1: I will like I woke up at three fourteen this morning?

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Speaker 2: Did you did you check your phone when you woke up?

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Speaker 1: I have a pretty good idea of what time it is.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know why, but I have a

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Speaker 1: pretty good even in the middle of the night, what

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Speaker 1: time it is. I did. I checked my phone and

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Speaker 1: it was right about what I thought. I've been asleep

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Speaker 1: for four hours or whatever, and I was right. But

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Speaker 1: But I have this almost it's a reoccurring thing where

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Speaker 1: I wake up and then I don't go back to bed.

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Speaker 2: Now, when you check your phone, are you just checking

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Speaker 2: at stories to see if there's any breaking news or

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Speaker 2: anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Here's the pattern. I wake up, I check the phone,

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Speaker 1: I try to go back to sleep. I can't go

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Speaker 1: back to sleep. After about five minutes, I'm like, this

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Speaker 1: is boring, and then I get on the phone, which

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Speaker 1: I'm sure then is the continuation of not being able

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Speaker 1: to go back to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Right, because that blue light in the screen time, they

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Speaker 2: say that really is detrimental to trying to sleep.

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Speaker 1: But I should be able to go back to sleep

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Speaker 1: once I've awakened from my sleep. I think that's where

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Speaker 1: the problem is, is that I try to go back

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Speaker 1: to sleep and then I can't go.

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Speaker 2: Back to sleep. Hmmm, all right, Well you've got to

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Speaker 2: improve your sleep habit, right. They say that's a key

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Speaker 2: tool to protecting your brain health. Look at this brain,

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Speaker 2: especially as we age.

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Speaker 1: Look at me, Look at me.

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Speaker 2: You could also exercise, diet, mental stimulation at all affects

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Speaker 2: your brain health as well. I feel like the phone

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Speaker 2: and the TV that really affects people's sleep. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: doubt and worry as well.

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Speaker 1: Phones are in everything for me.

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Speaker 2: That's a big factor into everything