1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Oh, we've got so many people to just dump all 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: over today. Let's not waste any time. It's Kennel and 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Casey Show. Rob Casey's out, Ethan Hatchers in, and let's 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: start with the fact that everyone hates Chuck Schumer. Yes, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: this is the one good thing coming out of this 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: hole shut down. And like nothing's changing. The spending is 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: still ridiculous, We're still at Biden level, you know, government 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: and spending and priorities. But the one good thing coming 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: out of all of this, and we're likely going to 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: get some form of Obamacare continuing. But the one good thing, Ethan, 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: is that everyone now seems to hate Chuck Schumer. Sure, 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: but everybody hated Mitch McConnell too. And there's a very 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: low bar for leadership in the Senate. You don't actually 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: think they're gonna swap out Chuck Schumer, do you. I mean, 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: they've already set the standard that if you are stumbling 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: around and having brain freezes in the middle of pet 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: press conferences, you can still retain leadership for quite a while. 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Well fascinating. I was struggling yesterday because Schumer's been in 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: there so long now, I was like, who was the leader. 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Before Schumer, it was Harry Reid. Harry Reid was there 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: forever before that. But like you look at these guys 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: and look any job you know this, and you're a 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur. You buy properties for a living, and 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: then you rent them out to people. You're constantly tinkering 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: and toiling and whatever, and so business owners don't really 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: go through this. But I would bet a big part 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: of your drive to own a business was when you're 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: in any position for any length of time, it just 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: naturally gets unless you're the position is very unique, like 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: what we do here, where there's different things to talk 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: about every single day, you get somewhat stale in that position. 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: You've got to fight to find ways to be creative 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: and innovative, and these guys in the government just simply 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: don't have any of that. Well, I think that in 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: many ways that leadership in government is based on not 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: accomplishing anything, because by not accomplishing anything, you retain a 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: certain level of stability. Look at the Republicans who are 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: rejoicing at this deal, which will just further continue Biden 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: era spending which they spent four years railing against that 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: they're effectively doing nothing, because by continuing the status quo, 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: that will, in a perverse way, upset the least amount 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: of people as opposed to rocking the vote. Yeah, and 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: we touched on this yesterday in which the Democrats have 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: become so unlikable, and this pains me because you need 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: both parties operating at a very high level, and heaven 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: forbid we have a third party or an independent person 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: operating at a high level, because they've got to be 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: able to like, check and balance each other. And we've 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: seen here in this state that the reason Republicans behave 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: so badly, it's not because people are in love with 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: them or like what they do or cheerleading for more 52 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: of it. The Democrats are so repulsive to people. And 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: in this case with the shutdown, the Democrats are so 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: bad ended up looking so bad that the Republicans stand 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: on some take some sort of victory lap and send 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: them some sort of high horse when all they did 57 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: is lie to their constituents again and continue to fully 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: fund almost all of Joe Biden's government. I mean, it's 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: not a very high horse, though, because the only thing 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: Americans can agree on is that our government sucks. Republicans 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: have a very low trust and credibility rating. Democrats certainly 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: have a low trust and credibility rating. Media largely has, 63 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: especially mainstream large you know, NBCABC type media entities have 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: very low trust and credibility. So the only thing that 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: we can agree on is that everything sucks, all right. 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: So John Kennedy, Senator Louisiana Republican, he was talking. He 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: was talking about Chuck Schumer, and look, John Kennedy is 68 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: always a wordsmith, and he said this was all about 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: this was by the way, he was on Fox News. 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: He said, this was all about Schumer having unreasonable demands. 71 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Senator Schumer chose to have this shut down. And it's clear, 72 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: it was clear at the time, it's clear now he 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: just dug up more snakes than he could kill. His 74 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: demands were unreasonable. They were so unreasonable that they weren't 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: even within the realm of possibility on my side of 76 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: the eye. And we were prepared to just sit there 77 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: as much as it hurt. 78 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't have a choice. 79 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: We couldn't possibly do what Senator Schumer wanted us to do. 80 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: You know that years ago, I worked for a statewide 81 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: office holder and at one point I told this person 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: because they were Republican, I said, state auditor. I said, 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: if you just hit in your basement for a year, 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: you'd probably be fine. And the only way you can 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: ang people or or screw it up for yourself is 86 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: to do something stupid. And this person kind of did 87 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: that couldn't follow those directions. And now you've seen it 88 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: sort of with the skis Ball Secretary of State, who 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: can't follow those basic directions, diego morales. You're seeing it 90 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: with the lieutenant governor who can't follow those basic directions. 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: And so for the Demo, I was saying all this 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: because the Democrats, all you had to do. The Republicans 93 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: were going to screw it up the policies themselves. When 94 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 1: you keep adding to the national debt, when you keep 95 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: pushing the crony capitalism, when you don't reform the government, 96 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: when you don't, you know, reform entitlements, the country's going 97 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: to continue to get worse. So if you're the Democrats, 98 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: it probably suck to be the minority for two years, 99 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: but all you kind of had to do is just 100 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: show up and keep your mouth shut, and then you 101 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: were probably going to get the House and maybe even 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: the Senate back but they couldn't do that. They pissed 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: everybody off over the stupid shutdown that they got nothing for. 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: One of the things I greatly admire about you, Rob 105 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: is you have a mind like a steal trap. You 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: pay attention to the mikutia, and when it comes to 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: knowledge of government officials, very few people are as knowledgeable 108 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: as you and especially like able to pull it up 109 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: very quickly. But my questions, Hey, I'm gonna pay you 110 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: to just walk behind me and say stuff all day 111 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: like that. One of my questions to you, though, is like, 112 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: can you think of anything that John Kennedy has actually done? 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I love that he is good 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: for a hilarious sound bite and the way that he 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: phrases things. You called him a wordsmith. Yeah, it's hysterical 116 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: that one of the sound bites that I use on 117 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: my show quite frequently as well. If you don't like 118 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: cops call a crackhead, that came from John Kennedy. But 119 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: what has he actually done? Can you think of anything 120 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: that John Kennedy has actually accomplished, sponsored or been the 121 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: main driving force behind. Well, no, but you can say 122 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: about all of these people, right, I mean this is 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: the like all of these guys in Washington, these and girls, 124 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: like any of them? What's going on that you go, 125 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: my life is infinitely better because Blank. I've asked this 126 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: question at a state level. I asked this question at 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: a local level, like my life is infinitely better because 128 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Blank showed up. Now you can say Trump's doing a 129 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: fine job on the border and immigration, which I think 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: he is. He's infinitely better than Biden on a lot 131 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: of the foreign policy stuff. But in terms of the economy, 132 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the thing that was the primary driver, based on exit 133 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: polling in the most recent election and then the presidential election, 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: there's nothing. These guys aren't doing anything to make anybody's 135 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: lives any better, and they just exist to exist, and 136 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: for some reason, people keep voting for these clowns. Now. Molton, 137 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: what's his name, Seth Moulton. He is a Democrat representative 138 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: from Massachusetts. He was on CNN and he said, it's 139 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: time for a change. 140 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: Do you think that Chuck Schumer should step aside now 141 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: and let someone else lead Democrats in the Senate. 142 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: I think it would be better. I think be better 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: than the status quo. When I hear this from Democrats 144 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: all across Massachusetts. Everywhere I go, people say there's a 145 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: leadership vacuum right now in the Democratic Party. We need 146 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: new leadership. We've got to stop protecting this establishment status 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: quo that's gotten us a second term with Donald Trump. 148 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: Okay, And by the way, Adam Rinn from Politico, who's 149 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: been covering this and the meltdown on the Democrats going 150 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: to join us a nine thirty, I'm gonna ask him 151 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: that question. Okay. They all want Schumer to go. Who 152 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: are you gonna put in his place? 153 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 5: Like? 154 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Who's there? Where You're like, boy, if that guy or 155 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: that girl were there, things would be so much better. 156 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Who is it? The same thing with the Republican This 157 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: is what I say at the time, when oh McConnell's gone, 158 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: this would be great. They're not putting Ran Paul in charge, 159 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: and even putting Ted Cruz or Mike Lee in charge. 160 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: They're gonna put some institutionalist in there who's first priorities 161 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: protecting the donors and the lobbyists and the money train. 162 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 6: Well. 163 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Also part of the problem is that the radicals are 164 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: also gaining lots of traction within the Democrat Party, much 165 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: to the whore I believe of the Democrat establishment. But 166 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to superstars out of the Demoocrat Party, 167 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: you got people like Kamala Harris running around and saying 168 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: that the leaders are folks like Jasmine Crockett or Alexandria 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: Cassio Cortes or Zoran mom Danni the mayor of New 170 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: York Hey real colect before we go to a prick. 171 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: Chris Murphy, he's a senator. I think it's Connecticut is 172 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: where he's a senator from. He was on with PBS's 173 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: on PBS and he doesn't sound like he's got a 174 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: lot of confidence in humor either. Well, listen, I think 175 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do. 176 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 7: This is not an acceptable way for our caucus to operate, 177 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 7: just a handful of eight or nine or ten Democrats 178 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 7: crossing over regularly with Republicans. We've got to show some 179 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 7: solidarity if we are going to. 180 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Save this republic. 181 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 7: When we are divided like this, it accrues to the 182 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 7: benefit of someone like Donald Trump, who is trying to 183 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 7: destroy our democracy. So I know that Senator Schumer has 184 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 7: a hard job, but this can't happen again. We have 185 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 7: got to find a way to stay united. We aren't 186 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 7: this week and that doesn't help anybody except for President Trump. 187 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: Are you worried it could happen again? 188 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: Do you have confidence in Leadershimer. 189 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 7: Well, I certainly do worry that it is going to 190 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 7: happen again, and I think we have to have a 191 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 7: hard conversation inside the entire caucus to come to some 192 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 7: conclusion on how to make sure we stay united. 193 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break, Ethan, isn't for Casey? When't 194 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: we come back? Look, Ethan, you and I can agree 195 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: these politicians are all heinous, right, very true at a 196 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: state level, a local level, the national level. And so 197 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look. I think I am coming around seeing 198 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: how they get there and how they stay. I think 199 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm coming around to something that I never thought I 200 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: would agree with. And I want you to either talk 201 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: me into it or out of it when we come 202 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: back on how we can maybe start electing better People's 203 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Kennell Casey show ninety three, WIBC them out may to 204 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: wake up, and so should we get rid of money 205 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: in politics? To debate that here in a second, it's 206 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Kennelly Casey showing rob Ethans in for Casey, it is 207 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: Veterans Day throughout the program. Today, we have tasked keV 208 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: with coming up with military related themed music to pay 209 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: honor to our veterans, and Ethan and I will have 210 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: a little tribute to wrap up the show to all 211 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: of our veterans, and so thank you to everybody who 212 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: has served this country or is serving this country to 213 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: keep us free. And whether we agree with the conflict 214 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: they're involved with or not, I don't think any person, 215 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: any reasonable person doubts those people love the country more 216 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: than anybody can ever express and there is it is 217 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: just beyond is beyond. It is a level of bravery, 218 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: beyond understanding to the regular person with those people face 219 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: every single day. So thank you to all those people. 220 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: Thank you for all their service. But as fortunate Son 221 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: a pro military song, I thought that was a protest again, 222 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: but the drafts military related, right. I mean, look, I 223 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: think you can make a compelling case that it sort 224 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: of works the way it's supposed to work now, in 225 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: which the people who go are the people who want 226 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: to be there, the people who have the skill in 227 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: the mindset, unlike at the time when that song was written, 228 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: where people were forced to go. And I think the 229 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: system works probably pretty well right now. And thanks to 230 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: the very highly skilled people that choose to wear the 231 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: uniform and don't get nearly enough thanks. We are the 232 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: remain the freest, most amazing place on earth, and we're 233 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: all lucky to be here. I just think it's interesting 234 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: how these songs get co opted when they're often meant 235 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: as like a critique. It's it's kind of the same 236 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: way that people laud Born in the USA from Bruce Springsteen. 237 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: But of course it's it's a critique on the USA. 238 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: What whatever I mean, It's still a great song and 239 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: so fortunate son, So I'm not complaining. We're trying here, Ethan. 240 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: We're doing the best, can't. You're like being the equivalent 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: of the guy somebody brings you a pie you're ill 242 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: and or a you know, a dinner from KFC or something, 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, well, look, if they boughtw that 244 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: brand of pie I've never eaten cherry pie, or I 245 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: can't believe you brought me. You didn't bring me extra chrispy, 246 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: you brought me the regular chicken, or trying even the 247 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: thought is what counts. If they bought me a Baja 248 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 1: Blast Plot pie, yeah, I'd probably be giving them a 249 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: little side eye. Well this is radioactive exactly right here. Hey. Question. 250 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: So one of the things that I was thinking about 251 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: last night, because these politicians are so awful and clearly 252 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: in both sides of the shutdown was a complete disaster, 253 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: and nothing's getting any better. Like the Obviously the issue 254 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: is the people that get elected, and it's it's easy 255 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: to go, wha, we should just elect better people. And 256 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: on the surface, yes, that that's correct, But then I 257 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: was thinking about, like when you look at the playing 258 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: field and how tilted the playing field. There's a reason 259 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: the incumbent reelection rate is so great, and one of 260 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: them is that they spend however long they're in office, 261 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: or they can spend however long they're in office, using 262 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: that office to dole out favors to people who then contribute, 263 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: who give them a gigantic leg up and the you know, 264 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: the frack frank mail and the and you know all 265 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: this other stuff. And so I was thinking to myself, 266 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: and I hate saying this as a capitalist because I 267 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: think money is a form of free speech, but the 268 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: money has so rigged the electoral system in this country. 269 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Is it time for us, even as conservatives or liberty 270 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: minded people to say, maybe we got to get the 271 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: money out and go to these publicly financed elections. I know, right, 272 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: publicly funded elections. You just said a shiver down my 273 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: shind Fine, I know, and I hate saying it out loud, 274 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: but like, what is the answer. If some guy has 275 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: ten million and you have i'man like five hundred thousand, Now, 276 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: maybe anything can happen. But the reality is that guy 277 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: who's spent four years or two years, or as long 278 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: as these guys are there twenty years doling out favors 279 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: to get the donations has a gigantic starting advantage and 280 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: is nine times out of ten going to win because 281 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: he's able to use the office to get donations. The 282 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: system is not ideal. But I was doing a little 283 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: bit of thinking about this last night when you put 284 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: it on the template, and I looked up where they 285 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: hold publicly funded elections, and most of Europe is publicly 286 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: funded elections in one form or another. And the only 287 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: thing that has succeeded in Europe is entrenched leftism because 288 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: these publicly funded elections are doled out as a percentage 289 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: of the vote. So when you get a party that 290 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: captures a larger and larger percentage of the vote, they 291 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: get a larger percentage of public funding. So what if 292 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the alternative in our American system is not a publicly 293 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: funded election, but more election transparency. What if the congressmen 294 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: wear a NASCAR suit with the patches of their sponsors 295 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: on there, so at least we know who's paying for 296 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: the team. So like, if somebody gives you a certain amount, 297 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: you legally have to just even terror propose that years ago. 298 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: So I like to say, any donation you get that's 299 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: above one thousand dollars, you got to wear a logo 300 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: of that person so we know. And you touched on 301 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: something last night. You and I were texting back and 302 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: forth about this. One of the major issues is it's 303 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: so hard to track the money because of these political 304 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: action committees. And it would be much easier to know 305 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: who's buying who if they just said, hey, you got 306 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: to give this money directly to your candidate of choosing. 307 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Because there's a in the federal elections, there is a limit. 308 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't know it's what is it? Well, I should 309 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: know this because it is five thousand dollars. Well, no, no, 310 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: it's raised because in place I think it's thirty three hundred. Now, 311 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think back to the Gabe Whitley case 312 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: and his non existent donors, the numbers that he was 313 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: putting down that we were Oh, I think one of 314 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: the things he was doing allegedly was too high on 315 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: the donation list of the people who didn't exist. But like, 316 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: I think it's thirty three hundred a cycle is the number. Now, 317 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: somebody can correct me if that's wrong. So sixty six 318 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,479 Speaker 1: hundred per per year, or for the general and the primary, 319 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: so sixty six hundred. But like, the way they get 320 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: around it is that these people give huge money, these 321 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: political action committees who then swoop in and do the 322 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: bidding of the candidate. But you can't track the money 323 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: or to tract the money. You hit the nail on 324 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the head. The packs are a boondoggle because there's supposed 325 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: to be a layer of separation between the political action 326 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: committee and the candidate, but more often than not, especially 327 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: the larger, more prominent packs, act as a campaign arm 328 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: for their candidate of choice, and there is cooperation. Suggestions 329 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: that are are let out there to signal how the 330 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: political action committee should behave and makes them beholden to 331 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: the candidate when they're supposed to be a separate entity. 332 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, just bring that money on over, give us 333 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: full transparency. Put a little patch with the logo and 334 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: the names of your sponsors on your suit and let's go. 335 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 5: Well. 336 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of patches, I have a patch and it is 337 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: the wear it proudly. It's the president of the Jarrett 338 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Lewis Fan Club. Hey, coming up next, I'm next Adam 339 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: ren from Politico going to join us talk about how 340 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: outraged the Democrats in Washington are about Schumer giving in 341 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: not being able to keep control of this caucus. But 342 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: in the meantime, as the official president of the Jared 343 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: Lewis Fan Club. He's up next with the news ninety 344 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: three WIBC Convictions Day. 345 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 5: Set in the Stay Mart's Blue. 346 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: That is doing so. A lot of Democrats are very upset. 347 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: In fact, they're calling it a complete betrayal of the 348 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: fold by the Democrats in the Senate to reopen the government. 349 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Let's find out what's going on on the ground. Joining 350 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: us now in the WIBC hotline. What are the guys 351 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: covering this story for Politico? Adam wren joins us now, 352 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: Adam Wrenn. Hello, good to be with you, all right. So, 353 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: as we said, the headline in Politico, the story you 354 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: were a part of complete betrayal twenty twenty six, Democrats 355 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: slam shut down deal. Tell us the response on the 356 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: ground in Washington, DC. 357 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: Yeah. So essentially, what we're seeing here, Rob is an 358 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: overflow of pushback towards Truck Schumer, the minority Democratic leader 359 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 5: in the Senate, And this has been building up all 360 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 5: year long. Earlier in the year, number of frontline Democrats, 361 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 5: Democrats who are maybe a little bit to the left 362 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 5: or just want to see more fight of Donald Trump 363 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 5: and Washington felt that Schumer caved in an earlier budget 364 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 5: deal and so they really wanted this time to see 365 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: him fight. And then, quite frankly, Schumer has been trying 366 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 5: to hold on to his job all year long. You 367 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: have people Senate candidates across the map, people like Mallory 368 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: mc morrow in Michigan who's running for the Democratic Senate 369 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: seat there, people like Abdul Sayyid who's also running there 370 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 5: through a place retiring Democratic Senator Gary Peters, or in 371 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 5: Texas where you have James tallerco. All of these people 372 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 5: are saying that Schumer folded, and not only that, but 373 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: they're saying that they would not elect him leader if 374 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 5: they themselves won their election next year, and so all 375 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 5: of these people are frustrated with them. They feel like, 376 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: what did we shut down the government for if we're 377 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 5: not getting anything? I mean, essentially, what they're getting is 378 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 5: a handshake deal that there will be a vote on 379 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: an ACA Obamacare extension for a year and forty days 380 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 5: and then they're reopening the government and we're going to 381 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 5: do all of this over again in February. And so 382 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: they feel like this is a little bit silly. I mean, 383 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: pollingd does show that Democrats have won the shutdown in 384 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 5: terms of public support and raising the issue of healthcare, 385 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: But I mean, what is that worth to their average 386 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 5: constituent through acting? 387 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Adam Wren Adam Ran is our guest of political He's 388 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: part of a new piece out Complete Betrayal twenty twenty six. 389 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: Democrats slam the shutdown deal. What did they just want 390 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: Schumer to keep it shut down forever? Like, in their mind, 391 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: what should he have done? 392 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 5: They believe that based on the results of last Tuesday's 393 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 5: Off your elections and the public polling, that they had 394 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: the position to fight for some kind of concessions from Republicans. Look, 395 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: President Donald Trump has acknowledged that the shutdown hurt Republicans 396 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: in last week's elections, and so what they were hoping 397 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 5: for is for Donald Trump to kind of break ranks 398 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 5: with his own Republican leaders in the Senate and the 399 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 5: House and to essentially say, look, ignore these guys, let's 400 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 5: kind of deal with Democrats. And that would have made 401 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 5: Speaker Mike Johnson look bad. Majority leaders soon look bad. 402 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 5: And so that's kind of what Democrats were counting on. 403 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: But instead, what Trump said was we need we needed 404 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: a nuke the filibuster to make sure that we can 405 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 5: do this without the help of Democrats, that we can 406 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: reopen the government without them. And so in some ways 407 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 5: Democrats miscalculated there. They were hoping on the Republicans to cave. 408 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Adam Ran as our guest from Politico, So, did Schuber 409 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: actually have the ability, like to walk our audience through 410 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: how this works behind the scenes. Did he actually have 411 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: the ability to tell people, no, you're not voting for that. 412 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: Is he that powerful? 413 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 5: No? And that's the problem is he wasn't able to 414 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: keep his caucus. He wasn't able to keep his caucus together. 415 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 5: I mean, there are upwards of ten Senate Democrats, moderate 416 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 5: Senate Democrats, central Senate Democrats who wanted to cut a 417 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: deal to get the government open. I mean, look, the 418 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 5: skies are a mess. It's impossible. I had to drive 419 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 5: twelve hours back from New Jersey a couple of weeks ago, 420 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 5: covering the off your elections there, to get back to 421 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 5: Indiana so I could trigger treat with my kids on 422 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: a Friday night. The skies are a mess. I mean, 423 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: the snap benefits. People are going hungry, and so Senate Democrats, 424 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: a number of them, wanted to deal here. Federal government 425 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 5: employees are not getting paid, their constituents are suffering, and 426 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 5: so they viewed their responsibility as getting the government back open. 427 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: But Chuck Schumer, you know, either either enabled and empowered 428 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 5: those roughly ten Senate crafts to vote yes on this deal, 429 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 5: or he turned his head and looked the other way. 430 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: And either way, even though he didn't himself back this deal, 431 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: he tacitly backed it by letting his caucus break apart. 432 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Here, So who do they want, like, who is the 433 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: shining star that they go Well, if so, and so 434 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: we're just in charge. It would have been so much better. 435 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: Well, you know, there are you know, a number of 436 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 5: potential candidates. Chris van Holland, the Senator from Delaware, has 437 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 5: has tacked noticeably left this year. He's called the conflict 438 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 5: in Gaza a genocide waged by Israel, and that is 439 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: something that the left wants to hear, is some some 440 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 5: something that progressive members of the Democratic Party want to hear, 441 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: And so there's some speculation, you know, that he could 442 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: potentially wage a battle here. But look, I mean, we 443 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 5: saw Nancy Pelosi uh step down a while ago. We 444 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: saw her actually retire after last year's last week's results 445 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 5: in Neture in Virginia, and so essentially, you know, Schumer 446 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: is a man who doesn't have a lot of time 447 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 5: left though, whether he likes it or not, he is 448 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 5: largely out of step with his caucus on any number 449 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 5: of issues, and his his days are limited. 450 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: What okay, So that was my next question. I mean, 451 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: is he going to even run again? And if so, 452 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean everybody soons is gonna be AOC? Can he 453 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: beat her? 454 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 5: It's unclear? I mean, you know, he does have significant 455 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 5: name ID in the in the in the district. Uh, 456 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: you know, there are questions about whether you know AOC 457 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 5: could potentially run for presidency. You're going to see, you know, 458 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: thirty Democrats potentially seek the presidency in twenty twenty because 459 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 5: there are no downsides, there are no incentives not to 460 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: run for president, and it's hard to it's hard to say, 461 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 5: but she would give Chuck Schumer a significant challenge. She's 462 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 5: built to survive the attention economy. She's got nearly a 463 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: million YouTube subscribers, she's got a massive small dollar donor list, 464 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: and it would be difficult for Schumer to emerge from 465 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 5: that primary, and he wouldn't really control his legacy. He 466 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 5: would be the guy who lost rather than the guy 467 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 5: who climbed the ranks of power and stayed there for 468 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: a really long time. 469 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: Before I let you go. Like, do the Democrats feel 470 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna get a vote on Obamacerman? I know they'll 471 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: get something in the Senate. But Mike Johnson was basically 472 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: today like or yesterday like, I'm not sure we're doing that. 473 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny, you know, he said, I'm not 474 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 5: committing to do it, and I'm not committing to do it. 475 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 5: You wonder if that was a Freudrian slip. But he 476 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 5: didn't say I'm not not committing to do it, and 477 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: I'm not committing to do it. He just says I'm 478 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: not committing that I'm committing. So I mean, look, I 479 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 5: don't know. He doesn't really owe them anything. I mean, 480 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 5: the Democrats are in minority everywhere in government. And look, 481 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 5: they made that argument when they went in the shutdown. 482 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 5: They said Donald Trump controls all lovers of power here 483 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 5: all you know, both houses of government, and some would 484 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 5: argue the Supreme Court, and so this shutdown is on him, 485 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 5: and ultimately the public bought that. But but really, beyond 486 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: public polling, Democrats are coming out with with nothing here. 487 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: I mean maybe John Soon has told them he'll give 488 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 5: them some magic jelly beans at the end of this, 489 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: but that's really that's really all that they've gotten for 490 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: this more than forty day, you know, longest ever shutdown. 491 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: All right, people would want more of you in their life, Adam. 492 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: How can they find you? 493 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, they can find me on exit, Adam Wren at 494 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: Wran like the bird and all of my content is there. 495 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: Adam Wren, Politico and Portinville. Thank you, my friend. 496 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: Good to be with you. 497 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety three w ABC, It's Kenel and Casey Show. Wow, 498 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: where these forget? Yeah, Happy Veterans Day to all those 499 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: who have served the country. We certainly appreciate you. It's 500 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob Eathanson for Kate see Today. Okay, 501 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: So Trump is really all in on this fifty year 502 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: mortgage thing. And this is fascinating to me, by the way, 503 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: speaking of this, because this could have a profound impact 504 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: on our economy if they go forward with this. Mark 505 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: didel our old Palo real estate guru extraordinary MARKDDE will 506 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: be with us at ten thirty to kind of talk 507 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: about from the impact this might have on home buying, 508 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: on home selling, on the economy, all sorts of stuff. 509 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: So that'll be a fascinating conversation. But you know this. 510 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: He then sometimes with Trump, he'll say things and I 511 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: think he's sitting there like, oh, this will be funny. 512 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: It's like an episode of Impractical Jokers. Now I'll fill 513 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: in the blank. And he doesn't intend to do any 514 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: of it. Is that not part of his charm though? 515 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the appeal. It's also not 516 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: how you run a society as the president. Look, I agree, 517 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to grapple and understand the popularity of Trump, 518 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: and that's that's one of his features. So I don't know, Well, 519 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: there was some report I can't remember who did it. 520 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: I saw it on the on the internet. Was you know, 521 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: some one of these media outlets claim that so Paulty 522 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Bill Poulty, I think is the guy's name. He shows up. 523 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: He's the real estate guru and he's close, got close 524 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: with Trump. I can't remember if he has an official 525 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: position in the Trump administration or not. I think that's 526 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: the guy's name. Anyway, he shows up at this event. 527 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: The report says lose at mar A Lago, and he's 528 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: got he's pushing for this, and he has this sign 529 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: that says like or this post wart this says great 530 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: some of the great American presidents, and it's FDR with 531 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: the thirty year mortgage. And then it's basically like it's 532 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: somehow you know, saying the fifty year mortgage to be Trump. 533 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: And then it's whatever Trump ended up putting up on 534 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: social media and people are outraged at this guy did this, 535 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, but shouldn't the president have more 536 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: self control? If indeed that's the way it went down like, 537 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't the shouldn't the president be able to see something 538 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: and go, oh, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna think 539 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: about that a little bit. I mean, especially when the 540 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: direct comparison is between yourself and FDR. That's not an 541 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: alarm bell sounding but yeah, yeah, Bill Poulty is the 542 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: federal He's the director of the Federal how Using Finance 543 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: Agency and chairman of Fanny May and Freddie Mack. So that, yes, yes, 544 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: he definitely is a position, and what a wonderful institution. 545 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: Fanny May and Freddie Mack are well, I don't know 546 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: if you're this way that it's so hard because these 547 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: administrations change over so much. It's so hard to figure 548 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: out who's in, who's out, who's just an advisor, who's 549 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: somebody officials? So yes, he would have a massive say 550 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: in this. By the way, according to Wikipedia, he's thirty 551 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: seven years old. He's pretty young. What are we doing 552 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: with our lives? We're here? Well, I want to be here, 553 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm happy to be here. Okay, Anyway, 554 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: Kevin has a little So Trump was asked about this 555 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: about the fifty year mortgage. I think this was with 556 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram on Fox News, and this is what he 557 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: had to say. 558 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: Housing costs are still out of reach. And another thing 559 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: that your administration is trying to tackle many Americans the 560 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: average age of first time home buyers and now up 561 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: to age forty, which is sad the country. 562 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 6: And I inherited that. Look, you have to understand, right, 563 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 6: But how's he. 564 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: Get to the question though? Because your Housing director has 565 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: proposed something that has enraged your MAGA friends, which is 566 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: this fifty year mortgage idea, So a significant MAGA backlash, 567 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: calling it a giveaway to the banks and simply prolonging 568 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: the time it would take for Americans to own a home. Outright, 569 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: is that really a good idea? 570 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 6: It's not even a big deal. I mean, you know, 571 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 6: you go from forty to fifty years, and what other 572 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 6: reasons you pay? You pay something less from thirty that 573 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 6: some people had a forty and then now they have 574 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 6: a fifty. All it means is you pay less per 575 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 6: month you paid over a longer period of time. It's 576 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 6: not like a big factor. It might help a little bit, 577 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 6: but the problem was that Biden did this. He increased 578 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 6: the interest rates and I have a lousy fed person 579 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 6: who's going to be gone in a few months. 580 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: Okay. He appears to have no idea how this works. 581 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: And like I said, Mark Deedle's going to be with 582 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: us to tell us how this works. He appeared at 583 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: one appeared to be totally clueless, like he thinks there's 584 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: some forty year mortgage that people are getting, that thirty 585 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: is now the for most people, the pretty high standard, 586 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: And he just appeared totally out of touch with reality 587 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: in that response theory. You're not paying substantially less per 588 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: month with a fifty year mortgage. However, you are paying 589 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: substantially more for the value of your house over time. 590 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: I believe it's something like two to three times the 591 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: value with interest over time, especially were a fifty year mortgage. 592 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: That's the part what you are encouraging, Donald Trump, is 593 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: debt slavery. Yeah, and you've seen this, and we'll talk 594 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: to Mark Diedle about this coming up at ten thirty. 595 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: You basically sort of had this and have had had this, 596 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: and it was a disaster, which was those interest only 597 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: type loans, and that's you're basically renting. If you have 598 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: a fifty year mortgage, you're essentially renting whatever house you're 599 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: in and you're never probably the average versus never paying 600 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: that off. You're never going to live in a house 601 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: most people for fifty years or anywhere close to that, 602 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: and all the fees and everything else that are associated. 603 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's a recipe for does that, especially 604 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: if you have some sort of downturn in the housing 605 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: market based on what you can or can't sell your 606 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: home for. And then also you're creating generational debt because 607 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: in many cases, when you're not paying off that mortgage, 608 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: then it's your family who will inherit that bill and 609 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: continue to pay. Yeah. I mean, so again, we will 610 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: do a very deep dive on this coming up at 611 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: ten thirty and find out how this could impact not 612 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: just the real estate industry but Central Indiana buying and 613 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: selling homes. Markedide will be with us for that. Okay, 614 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: let's take a break. When we come back, we're gonna 615 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: do one of our old time favorite things. We're gonna 616 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: take a big old dump on a local politician. Hipocrisy 617 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: Alert on the way. Ethan's in for casey ninety three 618 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: w IBC