1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Presents. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is. 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: Is this anything ruddy by Indiana Unclaimed presented by the 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: Attorney General's Office Here in Indiana hammer the Attorney General's 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: Office reuniting hoosiers with over a million dollars in unclaimed 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: property every single week, fast, easy and free to surge 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: at Indiana Unclaimed dot gove. 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: Is this anything? 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: A sixty four year old man in Georgia facing felony 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: criminal charges after police say he fired three shots at 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: a young shopper he suspected of shoplifting. 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: At a Low's. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: Come on, man, The problem is the young man hadn't 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: stolen anything, and thankfully he wasn't hit by the. 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: Gunfire even if he had. Here's a witness. 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Talking about seeing uh, Stephen Douglas Wagner fire shots. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: At some. 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: I was then able to look and see where he 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 4: was shooting, and I saw a young black kid running. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: He sided fired one more shot and he's running basically 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: for his life away from this guy. And he's still shooting, 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: meaning he could have hit him in the back, could 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 4: have killed him. The store employee came out and said 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: that the person did not steal anything. 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, and I think Guy Relford would 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: agree the gun guy that stupid idiots like this make 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: responsible gun owners. 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Just drive. It drives them nuts. Pisses me off, It 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: piss you off. 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: Right, because now Russ mcquaid's going to run a story 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: about this and lump people like me in with that idiot. 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: Right, And even if he had stolen something from Lows, 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: you don't start firing at. 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: People unless he stole a child, then you can kill him. 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: That isn't expecting that scenario. 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: But somewhere Guy Ralford's head is spinning around right now. 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kill the guy if he stole the kid. Yeah, 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm alright with that. But if he just stole like 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: some you. 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: Know, he would know the guy, the sixty four year 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: old that fired the shots. 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm reading this thing. He wanted a reward. 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: That's what he was at a kid because he thought 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: that he stole something. Mentally ill obviously, and yeah, this 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: is nothing. 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: So Allison, let me bring you in the conversation here. 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Let's say you're a juror on the trial of me 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: and guilty. 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: Okay, ten years. 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: I'm being charged with shooting at a guy at a 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: Low's because I see him trying to human traffic a child. 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: Are you saying that I'm guilty? Are you letting me 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: off the hook? I thought there's a lot of gray 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: area because I don't know if I want you in 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: the direction of the child. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: But I'm pretty good shot. 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: I've been trained by guy robinont I did not hit 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: the child, but I hit the god. 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: Maybe if you like, hit him in the kneecap or something. Oh, 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: I shoot to kill? 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: Oh? Well, most likely though he's killing to the child 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: on his chest if you have to kill him. 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: In my scenario, he was grabbing the child by the 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: hand and he's trying to pull him out of the store, 65 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: and that's when I turn around, and I'd blow his 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: head completely off, blow his head clean off. 67 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: So my question to you, Alison, are you convicting me 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: of that? This is the craziest thing you've ever asked me, 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: And you've asked me some crazy things. 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: I gotta say, not guilty, Yeah, I mean, be honest 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: with you. 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: YouTube chat jump in the mix here. If you were 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: a juror and I Jason Allen Hammer was charged with 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: killing somebody in the Lows, but they were trying to 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: human traffic a child. And I killed the perpetrator. The 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: child is fine because I'm a good shot and I've 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: been trained, and I know what I'm doing. Am I 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: guilty or am I innocent? Here, Allison, I need a 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: verdict from you. 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you should go to jails. I don't know. 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm not answering that now. You're a jurmor my fate 82 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: lies in your hands. Yeah, but I don't know all 83 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: the facts. And also I just I also I don't know. 84 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't also just have a big disdain from me. 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: And then there's also the personal beef. It's the Ammery 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: Nigel Show.