1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: But I'll bring in Jeff rab John's who joins us 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: now on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. Of course, 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Jeff's anonymous with peaks dot com, synonymous with Indiana basketball 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: and it's coverage for that matter. Jeff, I say that, 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: and you know, you know me. We've known each other 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: for a while now. I say that with like eighty 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: five percent flippancy. But is there even like a shred 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: of eyebrow raising with that thought comment just about the 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: trajectory of Indiana football and some of the challenges perhaps 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: that creates for basketball. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: I think maybe. 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: In the emotions of fans it does. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: I think that's fair. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: Because sometimes, you know, fans look at things on a 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: surface level and they see new coach come into football, 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: new coach go to playoff right away. Why can't new 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: basketball coach do things? 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: You know? 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: And I don't mean that sarcastically. I just means sometimes 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: people just look. 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: At the surface. 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: And that's very understandable, it really is, but it doesn't 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: make situations similar. And the other thing I think, you 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: know is relevant with Kurt Signetti is he may be 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: one of one. We may be looking at one of 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: the actual unicorns in all of college coaches, because nobody's 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 3: done anything even approaching what he has done in any 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: college sport. And I checked around with people who work 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: for the NCAA, people who are friends of mine who 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: cover college hockey other things. Has anybody come close to 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: going from most losses in the history of sports a 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: national champion of a sport And the answers no, but yeah, 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: in the emotions and stands, I think there's. 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: Something to that. 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: I also think it can be dangerous if it goes 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: too far, though, if people say, Okay, Signetti did it 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: right away, So in any sport, the guy has to 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: do it right away, or hey, we're just going to 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: throw them the trash and go get the next guy. 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: You get one year. Oh, you didn't do it, Okay, 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: screw you. Bring in Jacob he didn't do it. Okay, 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: Bring in Rebby he didn't do it. Okay, bring in 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: it he didn't do it. 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: You know, it's you can get weird and really screw things. 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 5: Up, right. I agree with that. 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, I think there's. 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: A difference between staying emotion and university management of a program. 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 4: Those are two very different things. 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: And what have you seen, Jeff I mean, before we 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: get into what went wrong last night, give me, I 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: guess to offer a lifeline to Indiana fans here. Okay, 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: you see this program as up close and personal as 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: anybody covering it. And I've always been vociferous about that 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: fact that you know you're you're the guy on the 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: inside in my opinion. 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: Right. So, so with that said, and I do live 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 5: this day to day, right, we totally. 58 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you do, right, So so 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: give me an example if you will, or and if 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: if there isn't once you know, hey, Jake, I can't 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: help you there. Darren Devrees maybe unfortunately is being judged 62 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: or lumped in with precedent here. It is his first year. 63 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: It is a new roster he had to put together late. 64 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: Is there an example or is there a situation that 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: you look at Jeff and you say, this shows me 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: there has been progress from the time he arrived in 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Bloomington to now. Is there an area that you look 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: at and you say that gives me hope and promise? 69 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: Well, I would say a couple things. 70 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: One and I don't know if you want to jump 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: into Ryan Carr later or how you want. 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: To do it. 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: It's your show, so you tell me how you want 74 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: to do it. But adding somebody who has been and 75 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: who is an NBA vice president who's run a scouting 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: department for more than decades, who has twenty five years 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: experience in the NBA scouting both scouting colleges, high level 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: high school guys, because they had to start doing some 79 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: of that with one and done. You know, kids coming 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: to the NBA draft basically about eleven ten, eleven months 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: after they finished high school and international. Bringing in somebody 82 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: like that is really significant. You know, when I when 83 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: I dropped the news yesterday, there was a lot of 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: reaction from meaningful basketball people, you know, Jonathan Cavoni, fran Priscilla, 85 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: Jeff Goodman, others about how they were blown away. The 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: other thing that was interesting was I mentioned started to 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: fill up with like Kentucky fans, what can't we do this? 88 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: Louisville fans, what can't we do this? You know, other 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: fan bases wanting that. And I think that's I think 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: the Ryan Carr hire is significant. Now I understand people 91 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 3: who say, well, what you can do for us right now? Well, 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: right now, nothing? Okay, let's just be honest. 93 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: Nothing. 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: It's not gonna help you win another game this year. 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: But one of the problems with Indiana basketball, and I 96 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: think you know you understand this because you follow it 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: closely as well, there has been a lack of for 98 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: the future for well over a decade now. This program 99 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: has been run way. 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: Too much as a year two year operation. 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 3: And you know when I when I talked to Ryan 102 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: last night for the video interview, he even mentioned that 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: this program has gotten way too portal dependent. You cannot 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: you utilize the portal, Yes, live in it and depend 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: on it every year. No, there needs to be more 106 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: balanced roster. You need to bring in high school kids 107 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 3: who can develop. There needs to be more some little 108 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: more roster stability. And the other thing is, you know 109 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: some people are looking at the roster this year and going, well, 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: why does the roster look like this? And this is 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: not to make an excuse, but this is to explained. 112 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: You know, Debries gets hired in March nineteenth, the portal's 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: already open. Number of guys who I know who were 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: in the portal, Jake, Let's just be honest here. I 115 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: mean to get in trouble for saying this, but they 116 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: knew where they were going before they entered the portal, 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: and I knew they knew where they were going before 118 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: they entered the. 119 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: Portal, so there was a very much of a late start. 120 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: Then it takes a little while to get your full 121 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: staff put together, so you're really having to piece things 122 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: together year one. And you know, getting Lamar was great, 123 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: Tucker's very helpful. Some other guys you know, could develop. 124 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: Nick Dorn had a great stretch. But the roster needs 125 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: to be better moving forward, and everybody is aware of 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: the roster deficiencies. There is nobody in Cook Hall who 127 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: is delusional about what is needed moving forward. Now you 128 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: got to go out and get it, of course, but 129 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: eyes are wide open, conversations are very. 130 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: Honest and real. 131 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: And you have a staff with three guys with a 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: track record of landing players and Andrew Adams, Kenny Johnson 133 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: and Rod Clark. 134 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: And then you got a young. 135 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: Guy and Nick Norton, who did a really good job 136 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: getting Chase Branham, a twenty twenty seven kid who who 137 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: is now top thirty in the country. 138 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: So what do you believe Ryan Carr's role will be 139 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: within that structure. 140 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: He's basically he's in charge of roster buildings, you know, 141 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: he's going to oversetit. He's going to do a lot 142 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: of scouting, He's going to do a lot of giving 143 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: his opinion. You know, he'll he'll work in conjunction with 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: the staff. Drein de Brees has the final call, which 145 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: you know Card discussed same situation when he worked for 146 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Larry Bird, Kevin Pritchard, Chad Bucannon, you know Donny Walsh. 147 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: But his primary role is is roster building, roster building management, 148 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: scouting management. Now the assistants are going to do their 149 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: scouting as well, and everybody's going to matter. And and 150 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: Ryan Carr didn't make the point when when I was 151 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: talking with him last night before the game, like, hey, 152 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: this is going to be like how we do it 153 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: at the patient. We do it together. Yeah, yeah, I 154 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: have a leadership role, but we do this together. But 155 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: that that's going to be Car's primary job, and he 156 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: even said it. Job one A is is roster building. 157 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: Excuse me. So that's that's going to be his job. 158 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: And then he'll be able to give honest opinions too, 159 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: because he's been in a situation where you know, you've 160 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: always paid players in the n GAY, so not only 161 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: do you have to scout, evaluate, You have to do evaluation. 162 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think this guy's worth? What 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: draft slot would we take him at? What do we 164 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: think he's worth. If you're talking about free agents, what 165 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: do you think we would be willing to pay this guy? 166 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: You know, what do we think Jay Querry is worth 167 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: if we bring him in it too? 168 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 5: You know? 169 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: So, I think there will be a lot of really 170 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: good input from Ryan Carr when you're talking about the 171 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: financial side of it as well, which is important because 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: you've got to try to figure out who you want, 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: who you can get, and what are you willing to 174 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: pay certain guys. 175 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Jeff in that Jeff rab Johns is my guest pig 176 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: dot com where you can read his work. He's on 177 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: the job of house Colbrew Coffee guest line. One other 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: thing about Ryan Began, I haven't asked Ryan this. Maybe 179 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: there's a better question for Ryan, but is this a 180 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Darren Dvrees higher In other words, if Darren Devrees moves 181 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: on from Indiana for whatever reason, whether that's a year 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: from now, three years from now, whatever does Ryan Carr 183 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: was Ryan Carr brought in by the university to report 184 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: to Darren Devrees but isolated from Darren Devrees or was 185 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: this a Devirees higher where he is part of the 186 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Devirees administration as much or more so than the Indiana 187 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: University basketball administration. 188 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question, and like, I don't know 189 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: if I can specifically delineate all of that, But what 190 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: I do know is that Carn Debrees pomp. Shortly after 191 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: Debres was higher, Debrees and his family went up to 192 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: a Pacer playoff game and of reson car topped ten. 193 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: And they know They've been texting pretty much since then, 194 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: so there's been a lot of basketball communication between those two. 195 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: And then in the last i'd say two weeks, things 196 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: started to get pretty serious as far as hey, you know, 197 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: I would like you in this role. Let's really sit 198 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: get on the phone. 199 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: That they had. 200 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: They had one really long conversation where they got into 201 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: specifics who would do, what give me your ideas, what 202 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: ideas do we think would work, What ideas from the 203 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: NBA would translate, what ideas from the NBA would not translate. 204 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 3: And they had a really really good long conversation. 205 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of alignment there. 206 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: And I know Carr likes Devrez's, you know, ideas of 207 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: plan more modern style. You need to be able to 208 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: shoot the three. Yeah, you need more post presence. Everybody 209 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: realizes that you need a little more dynamic playmaker. 210 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: At point guard. But there is a lot of alignment 211 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: between Ryan Carr and they're to raise. 212 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: Does Indiana's nil allotment Jeff Jeff rab John's my guest, 213 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: with the success that Indiana football has had, the money 214 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: that comes in from that, does the nil allotment for 215 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Indiana University athletics? Does football help the basketball program because 216 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: that means more money is raised, or more NIL might 217 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: be there that they can shift over to basketball. Or 218 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: does Indiana look at it and say football is our 219 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: breadwinner and that is that our primary resources go there 220 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: and then basketball follows secondarily. 221 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a lot of resources going to 222 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: football right now, and deservedly so. But I don't think 223 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: football takes away from basketball. I really don't, because you know, 224 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: football is the only entity in any college setting that 225 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: can automatically increase your revenues fairly easily by tens of 226 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: millions of dollars. No other sport can do that. Basketball 227 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: can raise your revenues by millions, but not tens of millions. 228 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: You just don't have that kind of visibility. The TV 229 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: contract's not the same, the number of butts in seats, 230 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: season ticket sales ETCA aren't the same. So football success 231 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: is just it is the tide that raises all boats 232 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: for a college athletic program. But no, I don't think 233 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 3: football success hurts how you NL If that's the question. 234 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 5: Do you believe Indiana makes the NCAA Tournament? 235 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: And I think it's really tough right now, because you know, 236 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: there's still like zero point three seven wins above the bubble, 237 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: which is a metric that's on the team sheets this 238 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: year for the selection committee. But they're going to have 239 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: to win out, which means beating Michigan State at home, 240 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: as well as Minnesota, which they should be going on 241 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: the road, beating Ohio State, and then they're going to 242 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: need at least one probably two in the Big Ten 243 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: tournament because other teams get to win two. You know, 244 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: it's not like it's not a static metric. So I 245 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: think it's really tough. I think their chances are diminished, 246 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: but they're mathematically they're the good is Michigan State's Quad 247 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: one game Ohio State would be a quad one game. 248 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: If you get to a second game in the Big 249 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: Ten tournament, that. 250 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: Would be a quad one game. 251 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: So if all of a sudden you have five quad 252 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: one wins, yeah, you're in the NCAA tournament. Now there's 253 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of fs baked in there, and a 254 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: team that just lost at home to Northwestern would have 255 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: to turn around and beat some teams far better than Northwestern, 256 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: So it wouldn't be a miraculous run, but it would 257 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: be pretty close. So I think their chances are slim 258 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: unless they win out and get two in the Big 259 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: Ten tournament. 260 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. I appreciate the time as always. 261 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: I know it's a busy time obviously with everything going on, 262 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: but always great breakdown man. Certainly appreciate it and enjoy 263 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: and enjoy the like start to hint again at spring. 264 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: At least it's sunny outside and we'll see if that 265 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: means good fortune for any on and down the stretch 266 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: of work to be done. 267 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: Appreciate the time as always. 268 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: All was good talking to you, Bud, Jeff rab John's 269 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: joining me from peagues dot com. 270 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 5: Joel A. 271 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Eericson speaking of drinks, probably pinting for the Beer Fair. 272 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: He's been a long time since. Does Joel still remember us? 273 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: By the way, it's been a long time since we've 274 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: had him on. 275 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 5: Joel. 276 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: My name is Jake Querry. I do the program from 277 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: twelve until three. It's a pleasure to meet you. 278 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: How are you. 279 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. 280 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 6: I do believe in elixir is a drink. It's like 281 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 6: bugs Bunny Secret stuff from space jam that's an elixir? 282 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: Oh is it really see? 283 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: I think in that movie it. 284 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 6: Turned out to be water, but they pitched it as 285 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 6: an elixir. 286 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Maybe that also was in my subconscious I don't know. 287 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Gary probably knows the answer to these things. He keeps 288 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: it tally, apparently of areas of where we've been stealing material. 289 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: Joel, are you to get mad at me? 290 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: I cited space jams. 291 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: That is correct, you did well. You're a journalist, right, so, Joel, 292 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: are you at the combine right now? 293 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 6: I am, Yes, I am standing in the convention of. 294 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: Who's the most famous person you've seen today? I saw 295 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: one person yesterday. I'm not going to say any names. 296 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: I saw one person who is a famed NFL writer, 297 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: and I was stunned. They looked like the great gazoo. 298 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how small they were with with with 299 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: a huge head. Do you know what I'm talking about? 300 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. Weirdly, that kind of describes most. 301 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 5: Half the room. Yes, that's correct. 302 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 6: Most most famous person I saw today John Harbaugh walk past. 304 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: So oh that's kind of cool, right, Yeah, yeah, John Harball. 305 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, but 306 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: you know he's brother in laws with Tom Crean. Actually 307 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: his brother is so he's brother in law in law 308 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: in law, right something like that. 309 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there. They all show up at all the 310 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: games in front. 311 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: They should make more mention of that. 312 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Okay, before we get to yesterday and some of the 313 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: comments that were made, let's begin with today. Is there 314 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: anything new that has come out of the combine today 315 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: or that you anticipate coming out today? 316 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 6: Not not that I'm not that I'm aware of yet, 317 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 6: but hopefully, hopefully I'm going to start making more more 318 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 6: of a making more of my rounds here in a 319 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 6: little bit and hopefully I can dig some stuff up. 320 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything. 321 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 6: Hugely new other than I did just see there's another 322 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 6: linebacker available, though he would cost a lot, because it 323 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 6: sounds like Tremaine Edmunds has been given permission to seek 324 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 6: a trade from Chicago. 325 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: But he would cost quite a bit of money the 326 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Colts themselves, Joel, let's begin with this. Chris Ballard addressed 327 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: the media yesterday. Shane Steichen was on with J ANDB. 328 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard was on again this morning on the Morning Show. 329 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard that, but was there 330 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: anything that Chris Ballard said that you took away that 331 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: you found to be a newsworthy nugget that he did 332 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: not anticipate going into it. 333 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: I think most of what he said was kind of expected. 334 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 6: I do think it was interesting that he was so 335 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 6: confident in resigning Alec Pearce, not necessarily from a local standpoint. 336 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 6: I think if you've been paying attention to you know 337 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 6: what people like me have been writing and saying, you 338 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 6: you know that Alec Pearce is the type of person 339 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 6: who who maybe would be more likely to resign than 340 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 6: people would think. But I know at the end of 341 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 6: the season, I got a lot of pushback from people 342 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 6: when I just quoted him. 343 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: I didn't that I. 344 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 6: Had made up a quote, which it was weird because 345 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 6: it was on video that if they got Daniel Jones 346 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 6: back that it would go a long way to resigning 347 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 6: Alec Pierce. So nationally I think everyone thought, well, Pierce 348 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 6: definitely wants out of there. That's I haven't I haven't 349 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 6: thought that or been told that or anything. I've been 350 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: told the opposite of that, that he was probably more 351 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 6: likely to want to come back. And then Ballard saying 352 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 6: that they're confident that they'll be able to get him 353 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 6: back sort of to me, I think is it maybe 354 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 6: wasn't surprising, but I think it was a surprising to 355 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 6: other people you know, around around here and maybe online, 356 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 6: thinking well, he's just gonna go to the open market 357 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 6: and get as much. I mean, yes, Alec Pierce is very, 358 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: very valuable, but also you know, he's also a guy 359 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 6: who I think is it likes for he is and 360 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 6: really does like him and Dame Zones really are very close, you. 361 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Know, the the Alec Pierce. Okay, let's go to this, Joel, 362 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: and I've made this mention before. If you're the Colts, Okay, 363 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: do you believe the Colts will use a franchise tag? 364 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 6: I think that there's I think that there's a pretty 365 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 6: strong possibility that's going to be too hard to get 366 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 6: both of them done before Monday. 367 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: I And so if that's the case, you would tag Pierce, 368 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: right because the money that if you tag Jones, the 369 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: forty seven million that you would be required to pay 370 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: him is far greater than market value, whereas if you 371 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: tag Pierce, the twenty eight that you'd have to pay him, 372 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: or roughly twenty eight is basically his market value anyway, right. 373 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, And I think the other thing is that 374 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 6: at least the way they pitched it yesterday is that 375 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 6: they don't really think they're going to have to use 376 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 6: it with either of them. So maybe you I would think, 377 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 6: like I would think that especially with. 378 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: The stuff Jones has said. Jones has been bullish on coming. 379 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 6: Back, you know, really ever since the end of the season, 380 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 6: So I would think that you'd be able to go, well, 381 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 6: maybe if we're not done with Jones, we're close with Jones, 382 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 6: so we tagged Pierce just to make sure, you know, 383 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 6: but they definitely want to keep Ballard had an odd 384 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 6: a side where he kind of said, you know, the 385 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 6: only reason we ever used the tag of Michael Pittman 386 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 6: was that he was in Africa hunting, and we were 387 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 6: worried about him signing the dotted line on what we 388 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 6: had agreed to, which that's that's interesting that he was 389 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: on a plane and that's why they tagged it. But 390 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 6: they would prefer to not do those things. 391 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 5: Joel A. 392 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Erickson is my guest. He's on the Java House cold 393 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: Brew coffee guest line. By the way, cold brew meaning 394 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: the manner in which it comes about. 395 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: You can also get a hot coffee at Java House. Joel. 396 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: The deal with Daniel Jones, Okay, Number one? Do you 397 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: believe he's your week one starter if he's resigned? 398 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: I have my reservations. 399 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 6: The colts believe he's the week one starter if you're 400 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 6: sign and generally the colts are the people who end 401 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 6: up mattering in these things. I mean, I have my 402 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 6: reservations just based on the Achilles tear and his recovery. 403 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 6: But they they the way they're talking, they think he's 404 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 6: the week one starter. 405 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: If he is not ready to go. Do you believe 406 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: that there is the chance they would bring in a 407 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: veteran or do you think in fact that because Chris 408 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Ballard and I get it, he's not going to say 409 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: open for business, come and take Anthony Richardson, but he 410 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: was noncommittal on that. Do you think Richardson is still 411 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: a part of the Colts at training camp? 412 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: I think no. 413 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 6: I know what Chris Ballard said, but it just to me, 414 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 6: even some of the stuff that went on last year, 415 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 6: it just feels like there's a little bit of a 416 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 6: disconnect there. I would assume that Richardson wants a queer 417 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 6: chance to start, and he's not necessarily going to get that. 418 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 2: He's not going to get that here. You know, they 419 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: believe in. 420 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 6: Jones as a as the immediate future for this quarterbacking situation. 421 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 6: So I've been I've in my head it's been that 422 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 6: he's going to end up somewhere else. 423 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Do you believe that Nick Cross will be a cult 424 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: when they show up at training camp? 425 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 6: That is a really interesting one because I think it 426 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 6: all depends on the price point the safety market is. 427 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 6: This is this really hard market to predict because it 428 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 6: feels like every year now there's two or three guys 429 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 6: and it's hard to predict which ones are going to 430 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 6: get it. But there's two or three guys that get 431 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 6: big money in the safety market every year, and then 432 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 6: it just falls off a table. And the next group 433 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 6: of guys end up waiting and waiting and waiting. And 434 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 6: I don't know at this point exactly where the NFL 435 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 6: sort of slots Nick Cross in. 436 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: You know, do they see him as. 437 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 6: Something more than a in the box safety, Because if 438 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: they see some of him as something more than in 439 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 6: the block safety, I think there's a chance that he 440 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 6: gets into that big money if they think that that's. 441 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: What he is. 442 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: I would guess that maybe. 443 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 6: He's more affordable and he's more in that second group 444 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 6: of players who have to, you know, kind of take 445 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 6: what they can get. And I think in that situation, 446 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 6: there's a chance that the contract he signs is advantageous 447 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 6: for the Colts and that he's back. If he's in 448 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: the big high money where you're getting, you know, something 449 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 6: like what cam Binen got last year, I don't think 450 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 6: he's back. 451 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: Do you believe that Zaire Franklin will be an integral 452 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: part of the Colts when training camp begins? 453 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 6: That one, That one was maybe the hardest one for 454 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: me to read yesterday. I still think, you know, Chris 455 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 6: Ballard said we have to get faster in the front seven. Well, 456 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 6: that's that's three positions. That's defensive end. That's defensive tackle 457 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 6: and linebacker. And we all kind of know, you know 458 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 6: that you're not really talking about getting faster at defensive tackle. 459 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 6: You might want to get more explosive at defensive tackle. 460 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: I think defense attacker. 461 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 6: Really you're looking at you know, we need somebody for 462 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 6: when the Forrest Buckner and Grover Stewart are too old 463 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 6: to be here anymore more than anything, which leaves you 464 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 6: with defensive end and linebacker. And if you're going to 465 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: get younger and faster, faster linebacker, it's defensive end too. 466 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 6: But in terms of the word faster, those defensive line 467 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 6: positions to me, usually you talk about explosion and quickness 468 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 6: and stuff like that. You don't necessarily talk about speed. 469 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 6: I think that's more of a linebacker thing. Now you 470 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: could bring back you could, in theory, bring back Franklin 471 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: and get a young, fast weak side linebacker and get 472 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 6: faster at linebacker. 473 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: But and I asked Chris Ballard this. 474 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 6: You know, they talked a lot about having those young 475 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 6: guys on the field last year and defensive backs on 476 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 6: the field instead of linebackers. You didn't really work out 477 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 6: that way. Those linebackers were kind of on the field 478 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 6: a lot and even even without and so I think, 479 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 6: I think there's a chance he's going, but I just 480 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 6: don't know. Just given that, you can also, you know, 481 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 6: maybe just draft a week side linebacker. 482 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: Joe what Joel Erickson is our guest. When you look 483 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: at if there's a year to not have a first 484 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: round pick, you always want a first round pick. 485 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 5: I get it, right, but. 486 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: I kind of get the feeling. And you tell me 487 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: in this chicken and egg question, which it is. Is 488 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: this a draft that doesn't have a lot of first 489 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: round oomph and therefore I guess it doesn't totally hurt 490 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: you if you're not in the first round. Or is 491 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: this a draft that because the team that I cover 492 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: is not in the first round, I feel like it 493 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of oomph only because I'm not 494 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: paying attention to the first round. 495 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 6: Uh, it kind of feels like it kind of feels 496 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 6: like maybe this is a draft it's more deep than 497 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 6: you know, exciting at the top. And that's that's just 498 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 6: from listening the draft analysts and some of these guys 499 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 6: that get a little bit more into the prospects, like 500 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 6: you know, just for example, Ruben Bain from Miami who 501 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 6: you know. We all watched him in the National Championship game. 502 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 6: He's a great player, but he's got very short arms, 503 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: and they're talking about him dropping to like the back 504 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 6: end of the top ten. They're not talking about him 505 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 6: dropping further than that, which sort of tells me, you know, 506 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 6: maybe they don't have that high end talent. The other 507 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 6: thing is I think is there's there's really one first 508 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: round quarterback from my understanding, and it's Mendoza, and he'll 509 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 6: be gone with the first pick. So but the other 510 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 6: thing is it sounds like it's deep at defensive end. 511 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 6: It sounds like it's deep at linebacker, which obviously those 512 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 6: are the two positions the Colts need most. It's kind 513 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 6: of the opposite of last year, where both of those 514 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 6: things were very very Linebacker was incredibly thin last year, 515 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 6: to the point that I think that the linebackers the 516 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 6: Colts wanted all ended up going much higher than a 517 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 6: spot the Colts would have picked them. So it seems 518 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 6: like it's more of a deep than a high end 519 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 6: first round type class. 520 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Now, Joel, I got to ask you, Joel A. Eericson 521 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: is our guest. Most of the conversations you and I 522 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: have are on the radio. We don't have a lot 523 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: of discussions outside of the radio, not to say we 524 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: don't get along. 525 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: Greg Gary or Greg I can't remember his name. 526 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Some guy whose name starts with the G on the 527 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: text line is telling me that I'm not authentic now, 528 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: and he says I'm not authentic because you know, I 529 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: get to go. 530 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 5: To games for free and things like that. 531 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: I personally, it is my personal belief that when you 532 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: make a long list of the things and the attributes 533 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: that really make me great, that humility is probably the 534 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: top of the list, and therefore there's an authenticity that 535 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: comes with that. Would you agree with that, just based 536 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: on the limited exposure that you've had. 537 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think so. See. 538 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if if authenticity was your problem, 539 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 6: I don't think we'd be able to talk about the 540 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 6: Edmund Fitzgerald. 541 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: Well or or the fact. 542 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: And I can't remember if it was you or or 543 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: one of your colleagues, but somebody one time was covering 544 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: a game somewhere and send a thing like help, I'm 545 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: stranded in this town for an extra day. Did anyone 546 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: get murdered here? And I gave him an alphabetized list 547 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: with GPS on locations of seven different spots to hit. 548 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 5: Now that's authentic, is it not? 549 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 2: See? That's the thing, you know, I just don't think, 550 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: I don't think you can make a claim. 551 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 6: Of, you know, being fake if we know that you 552 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 6: like one of the one of the clips that you 553 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 6: guys still have of me laughing hysterically at you know, 554 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 6: you bringing up Milwaukee serial killers and locations. 555 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 5: That's right? Do we have that clip by chance? 556 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: Eddie? 557 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: I don't know if it made the move. 558 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: Joel, Can we get you to laugh maniacally real quick 559 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: as if you might actually be a serial killer? 560 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: It's hard to do that. 561 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 6: It's hard to do that laugh in a convention center 562 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 6: hallway because it's so loud. 563 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: It was, I mean, what it was was I was 564 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: pointing out that in Milwaukee where the Five Serve Forum 565 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: is the home of the Bucks, that that is the 566 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: location of Jeffrey Dahmer's chocolate factory where he worked. And 567 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: once they tore down the chocolate factory, they ultimately built 568 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: the arena And the first concert was a doubleheader of 569 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: the Violent Femmes and. 570 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 5: The Killers, which is true. 571 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: And when I met, when I dropped that nugget on you, 572 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: and I think, to be honest with you, I don't 573 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: think you were laughing out of humor, but rather out 574 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: of incredulous disbelief, redundant over the fact that I just 575 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: said it on the radio, and you thought to yourself, 576 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: this guy's authentic, right. 577 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, that's definitely it. 578 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: By the way, here we go, Eddie, I believe has 579 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 5: it here? 580 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: Here we go. 581 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 5: That is a true story. Look it up. That's a 582 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: true story. That's a true story. Look that up. You 583 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: people of Wisconsin are demented. Yeah, I mean right there. 584 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: And you know Ed Gaines from Wisconsin too, I mean 585 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, and he's made his rounds the Netflix stuff. 586 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: So you guys are doing your part up there right See. 587 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 6: See that's the that's the kind of last you can't 588 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 6: let out in a convention center hallway. No one's no 589 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: one's wandering around, uh for whatever conventions here because I 590 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 6: think there's other ones that are not. 591 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: The NFL really wants to hear that laugh. 592 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 5: See. I don't know if I should take this as 593 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 5: a compliment. 594 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: Kirk has texted in this and the limited interaction I've 595 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: had with Jake off the field, I can attest to 596 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: the fact that he's just as weird off the field. 597 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I that's is that a compliment, Joel? 598 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 5: I'm not sure where we're going with this, right, I. 599 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: Think it is. 600 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 5: I think it is. 601 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: I you know, Wisconsin, so. 602 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 5: You know, I mean, do people walk and maybe this 603 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 5: is the case. I don't. 604 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of like people that have BO don't know 605 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: they have BO, Like do I walk away? And people 606 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: are thinking to themselves, no, that's one weird dude that, 607 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: which is fine, Which is fine, but you can just 608 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: tell me right. 609 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the hard part is like, I don't 610 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: think that. 611 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 6: But again, I'm I'm from Wisconsin, which we've already established 612 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 6: as a place for people who are maybe a little 613 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 6: bit you know odd. 614 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I don't know what it means about 615 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: me or what I should say about how whether I 616 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: should find comfort in the fact that somebody is claiming 617 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: that I might be normal when their laugh sounds like this, Right. 618 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm fair, It's totally fair, totally fair. 619 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: Joe, how would you describe on a serious note? And 620 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: I know that we are very fortunate to do it, 621 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: and I know that you know, there are a lot 622 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: of people that would that would love to be able 623 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: to go to the combine and see kind of behind 624 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: the curtain, if you will, even though it's been obviously 625 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: more exposed than it has been in the past through 626 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: the NFL Network and other such avenues. But overall, when 627 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: you get home from work and your wife says, so, 628 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: how was work today, and you say, well, I was 629 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: at the first day of the combine, and she says, 630 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: explain to me what all that means. How would you 631 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: describe the experience of covering the NFL Combine. 632 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 6: It's it's it's the thing about And I agree with you. 633 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 6: I am very very lucky to do this job, you know, 634 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 6: like my dad has worked on on dairy farms and 635 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 6: construction his whole life, that I would much rather do 636 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 6: this than either of those two things. 637 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: And that's all very very true. 638 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 6: But the thing that I think when people ask me 639 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 6: about my job, that they're most surprised to find out 640 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 6: is that most of my job is standing somewhere waiting 641 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 6: for somebody more important to have time to talk to me. 642 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 6: And I think the Combine is sort of like the 643 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 6: distillation of that. It's it's an entire week for me 644 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 6: of standing somewhere waiting for somebody more important to maybe 645 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 6: have the time to talk to me. And you know, 646 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: listeners can decide if that's fun or not. It's not 647 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 6: my favorite thing, but that's that's kind of the combine. 648 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: It's it's a lot. 649 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 6: Of being around and standing around and trying to get 650 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 6: to the right person to speak to, which is you know, 651 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 6: it's just it's a lot of waiting. 652 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: That's that's that's the the job. 653 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 6: Back to my job is there a lot of waiting, 654 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 6: and the combine is sort of like ground zero for 655 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 6: the waiting. 656 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: You know. 657 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: The one thing that I have to remind myself Joel 658 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: and I thought about this yesterday when I was at 659 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: the combine. You know, we look at and I make 660 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: fun of or I point out Gary Greg who texts 661 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: in and literally probably twice a week, has something to 662 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: say about what a moron I am, or something I 663 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: said that's wrong, or whatever else right. And there are 664 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: probably times where he's pointing something out where I was 665 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: wrong or I had the wrong opinion, or he'll write 666 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: something and I say, anybody, and you say to yourself, 667 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, that's a goodoint. 668 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 5: I didn't think of it that way. 669 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: One of the things I think that comes with And 670 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you get emails as well from people telling 671 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: you that you wrote a column that was incorrect, or 672 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: you had a fact wrong, or you asked a bad question. 673 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: And it's easy from a human nature standpoint to get 674 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: insecure of that or to get defensive of that. Except 675 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: for that, to a large extent, our jobs are to 676 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: do exactly that about other people. When you go to 677 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: the combine and Chris Baller comes out on a podium, 678 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm asking him ten different questions. If I was there 679 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: for that, I'm asking him ten different questions, all of 680 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: which are indirectly questioning the manner in which he goes 681 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: about his business. So shouldn't it be fair game and 682 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: fair play that we should handle and that critique of ourselves. 683 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I've thought about that a lot too. I've 684 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 6: thought about that a lot too, just in terms of 685 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 6: that that is what we do. You know, people, a 686 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 6: lot of times, you know, you go and you know, 687 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 6: in athletes upset or something out of question and you think, well, 688 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 6: you know, if someone was at the end of my 689 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 6: pickup basketball game and said, how did you miss that 690 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 6: three pointer when there was no one around you? 691 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: I guess. 692 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 6: I guess that one wouldn't bother me that much because 693 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 6: I would just be like, well, I'm. 694 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: Not very good, that's why. Yeah. 695 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 6: But you know, the similar situation for someone who is 696 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 6: good that they might not like. 697 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: That question very much. 698 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 6: And it's one of those things you kind of have 699 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 6: to try to remind yourself everyone in a while, because 700 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 6: you know, it is easy to go it is easy 701 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: to get kind of ruffled and feel some of that 702 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 6: stuff versus versus knowing that, yeah, that's that is what 703 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 6: we do. We, like you said, we spend most of 704 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 6: our time saying, well, you guys said this, but this happened, 705 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 6: and you guys said, you're going to do this, but 706 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 6: you why are you still? 707 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: All that stuff is. 708 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 6: Not necessarily the most fun for those guys to answer, 709 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: and you know, we we probably do react the same 710 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 6: way most of. 711 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: The time, Joel, when looking at this off season, listening 712 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: to Chris Ballard, and I think a year ago there 713 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: was a lot of uncertainty, and then you know, and 714 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: things they obviously played well and Daniel Jones played well, 715 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: and I mentioned earlier the Achilles for Daniel Jones was 716 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily the that ended his season. But rather his 717 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: inability to handle straight line rush and Pittsburgh exposed that 718 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. And we can talk about the injury 719 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: all we want, but we were starting to see a 720 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: little bit of water being taken in Daniel Jones' inconsistencies 721 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: that can come with a lot of pressure, right, but 722 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: it's still they were still playing at a high level 723 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: even with all of that, and they pushed all in 724 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: for Sauce Gardner. Do you feel like now it is 725 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: a franchise that still feels that it is a move 726 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: or a breakaway from being right there or have they 727 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: been tempered a little bit in terms of this season 728 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: and their expectation and just where they think things are going. 729 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 6: I know this surprises a lot of people, but I 730 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 6: do think that the Colts believe that, you know, with 731 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 6: better circumstances in terms of the health and Daniel Jones specifically, 732 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 6: that they are a really good team. I think I think, 733 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 6: not not just Crisp Out, but definitely Shane Stikeen I 734 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 6: think feels like, if you if he has the pieces 735 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 6: to that offense, that he can get them back to 736 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 6: where they were before that. Because even I think even 737 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 6: in the you know, the Pittsburgh game, in the Atlanta game, 738 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 6: some of those games where Jones made more mistakes than usual, 739 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 6: they still were putting up you know, big, big time 740 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 6: yardage numbers, big time points numbers. And I do think 741 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 6: he feels like, if they've got those guys, that they 742 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 6: can be really, really good, you know, And that's just 743 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 6: that's we'll find out, you know, we'll find out if 744 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 6: Daniel Jones Achilles tendon allows him to play the way 745 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 6: he did at the beginning of last year. But I 746 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 6: do think from a Colt's perspective, and specifically the people 747 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 6: in charge of the Colts, I do think that they 748 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 6: believe that they are they can be that kind of 749 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 6: offense again, and if they get some help on defense, 750 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 6: that they can be what we thought they were going 751 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 6: to be when they were eight and two and in 752 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 6: the playoffs and competing for the division of everything like that. 753 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: By the way, here's one fellow that chimes in in 754 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: our conversation, jac I'm a huge fan of yours. Stay 755 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: the way you are. I love your enthusiasm. Now, now, Joel, 756 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: here's the thing. You're excited by that right when you 757 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: read that, And that's a nice compliment, Okay, fella's last 758 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: name was Quarry. Now I don't believe that I'm related 759 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: about how many Queries can there be walking around? 760 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: Right? 761 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I have? You met many Queries? 762 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: I have, but it was, oddly enough, I met a 763 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: ton of them once. It was the weirdest thing ever 764 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: a family reunion. Outside of that, No, there's a bunch 765 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: of Queries walking around in Spencer, in the Cloverdale area 766 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: that apparently, and I don't know if this is unique 767 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: to our family or common to most, but apparently, back 768 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: in like the eighteen eighties or the early nineteen hundreds, 769 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: there were a couple of Query brothers that got drunk 770 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: on moonshine and got in a fight, and one of 771 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: them got po'ed and moved to Hamblton County and left 772 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: everybody in Owen County, And so that branch the family. 773 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 5: And now there's two different families. 774 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: So we don't we don't claim those other folks, is 775 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at, even though that was one hundred 776 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: and fifty years ago. 777 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there are a ton of Ericson's, especially in Wisconsin, 778 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 6: and so I don't have the same I don't have 779 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 6: the same experience because there there's there's just an enormous 780 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 6: amount of ericson. 781 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 5: Are you are you related to Lease? 782 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: You know what? I have no idea, but I like 783 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: to claim it. 784 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: Aren't There two different spellings s e n or s 785 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 5: o n? 786 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 2: Uh? 787 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 6: Well, there's there's also like a Norwegian version that's s 788 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 6: s o n. 789 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: The e EN's the Marcus eric, right, yeah. 790 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, the e ens tend to be more Swedish and 791 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 6: other countries than Norway, at least in my my general understanding, 792 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 6: there was there was actually at my high school in 793 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 6: my class, there was a Lease ericson who we lockered 794 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 6: next to each other. 795 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: But here's what Ian and I was. 796 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 5: O n just out of career, was at least an 797 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 5: attractive gal. 798 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 2: You're very attractive. 799 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 5: Well there you go. 800 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: That's good news that it was an e n owen situation, right, 801 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean, for what it's worth. 802 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 803 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 5: And you're you're of this Feetish side or you're of 804 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 5: the other side. 805 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 6: I'm Norwegian, I am my dad is Norwegian. 806 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: So you're on a cruise you're on a cruise line 807 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: as opposed to a chef, is what we're getting at, right, Okay. 808 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 6: Yes, my, my, that part of my that part of 809 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 6: my people is apparently incredible at cross country skiing. 810 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: I've learned over the. 811 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: That's right weeks and then they all collapse as soon 812 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: as they cross the finish line and then get their 813 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: gold and go home. 814 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, except for except for the one dude that wins 815 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 6: all the gold medal, because that guy I think might 816 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 6: be a machine. 817 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: Joel, which country is he from? The guy that wins 818 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: all the golds? He doesn't, he doesn't collapse. You're saying 819 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: he's Nordic. 820 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 6: No, he's from Norway. His name is his name? I 821 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 6: think I'm going to get this right. Is Johanna's hussfoot klobo? 822 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 5: Can you do that one more time? Please? 823 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: Johannas huff foot clobbo. 824 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: See that. Now here's the thing. Uh, that's what it 825 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: sounds like. If you need to clear your throat. Say 826 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: it one more time, one more time, jo Hanna's huss 827 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: and then once you clear your throat, you sound more 828 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: like this, Eddie, Eddie, there you go. Joel a ericson 829 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: joining us job House Colbrew Coffee guest on Joel, appreciate 830 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: the time is always Lastly, what's upcoming in terms of 831 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: your coverage from the combine? 832 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 5: What's next? On the Colts schedule, if you will. 833 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 6: Colt schedule is pretty much kind of just trying to 834 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 6: chase down some of the stuff that Chris Balley kind 835 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 6: of hinted at. We'll be writing a little bit more 836 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 6: of what he said. I do have something I got 837 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 6: to write up on Kayden Curry from Center Grove from 838 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 6: today and then the rest of the week for me 839 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 6: is kind of, like I said, kind of just you know, 840 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 6: waiting waiting for someone way more important than me to 841 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 6: talk to me. 842 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate the time as always, Joel, and we 843 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: will talk to you soon. All right, Okay, we'll see 844 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: up Joel a. Erickson joining us on the program.