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Speaker 1: and their brother knows that you need a win to

434
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Speaker 1: be able to right yourself after getting blown out by

435
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Speaker 1: your arrival and trying to get things on the the

436
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: rails for the NCAA tournament. And you come out with that,

437
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: it's on you. If you put it in the hands

438
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: of the Zebras, that's one hundred percent on you. And

439
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Wilkerson sounded frustrated and incredulous. I think the fan

440
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: base is frustrated and incredulous, and I guess it's all

441
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: good news because it gives us something to talk about

442
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: un till spring football starts. Congratulations Indiana you've become Alabama

443
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: except for that, they've got a good basketball program. But

444
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Jeff rab Johns on what went wrong last night joins

445
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: us on the other side, big show lined up over

446
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: the course of today as well. Joela Ericson also going

447
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: to join us to talk about the Colts. We'll get

448
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: more into what Chris Ballard had to say earlier today.

449
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: But when we return, what was it that went wrong

450
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: and did that start to put the dirt on Indiana

451
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: basketball or can they come back out of it. We'll

452
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: talk to rab John's about it next. Now, Eddie, I'm

453
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna make a statement before we bring on Jeff rab Johns,

454
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: and then I want you to grade me. I want

455
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Speaker 1: you to tell me how like shock Jock, you know,

456
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: bring the torch to the party level ridiculous It sounds

457
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: because I'm saying it with like eighty five percent flippancy

458
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: and fifteen percent like hmm, things that make you go hm,

459
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: you ready yep. Over the last quarter century, Indiana basketball,

460
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: as we know, has been living largely off of its very,

461
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: very firm foundation. But we have seen a series of

462
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: coaching hires, some of which have gone better than others,

463
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: some of which have peaked at better places than others,

464
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: some of which have been more consistent than others. But

465
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: with hearing Indiana basketball fans talk about like which coach

466
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: was the one that I hate to say most damage

467
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: because they all brought positive things that are all buying large,

468
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: pretty good men. But between Mike, you know, it was

469
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: like Mike Davis. You know that that hurt the culture

470
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: of Indiana with everything that went on there, even though

471
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: I think they should actually have a stat for the guy,

472
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: with everything he went through and the grace with which

473
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: he handled himself. You know, Archie Miller was that the

474
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: bad hire of Archie Miller? How much did that set

475
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: them back? And then Mike Woodson and Kelvin Samson and

476
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: everything was done, and all these coaches that you can

477
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: point to that were the ones that were the key

478
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: cogs in slowing down the wheel of Indiana basketball. And

479
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: I look at it and I say, maybe the one

480
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: that threw the brakes on it. Maybe the coach that

481
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: most did is Kurt Signetti. Maybe Kurt Signetti is the

482
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: coach that most put the brakes in Indiana basketball and

483
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm and the passion for it.

484
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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, I think, well, now for sure, But uh,

485
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I think it's just been a

486
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: compilation of things over the years and signetti in the

487
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 4: success for IU football. It's just kind of like put

488
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Speaker 4: it over the edge a little bit.

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I say that again with flippancy, but at

490
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: the same time, I do find it curious because there

491
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: is an understandably so, there's just such the enthusiasm and

492
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: love for the football program that the I'm not going

493
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: to say there's a complacency about it from the basketball standpoint,

494
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: but simply maybe not as much the urgency as there

495
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: once was, and the level of fatigue that fans had

496
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: about going through the same thing over and over from

497
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: a basketball standpoint boils over when you've got a football

498
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: program that's like, you know what, screw it, that's where

499
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: my money's going. But I'll bring in Jeff rab John's

500
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: who joins us now on the Java House Colbrew Coffee

501
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: guest line. Of course, Jeff's synonymous with Peaks dot Com,

502
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: synonymous with Indiana basketball and its coverage for that matter. Jeff,

503
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: I say that, and you know, you know me, We've

504
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: known each other for a while now. I say that

505
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: with like eighty five percent flippancy. But is there even

506
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: like a shred of eyebrow raising with that thought comment

507
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: just about the trajectory of Indiana football and some of

508
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Speaker 1: the challenges perhaps that creates for basketball.

509
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Speaker 5: I think maybe in the emotions of fans it does.

510
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: I think it's fair because sometimes, you know, fans look

511
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: at things are on a surface level and they see

512
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: new coach come into football, new coach go to playoffs

513
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: right away. Why can't new basketball coach do things?

514
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: You know?

515
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 5: And I don't mean that sarcastic, but I just mean

516
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: sometimes people just look at the surface. And that's very understandable,

517
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 5: it really is, but it doesn't make situations similar. And

518
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 5: the other thing I think, you know is relevant with

519
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: Kurt Signetti is he may be one of one. We

520
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 5: may be looking at one of the actual unicorns in

521
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: all of college coaches, because nobody's done anything even approaching

522
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: what he has done in any college sport. And I

523
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 5: checked around with people who work for the NCAA, people

524
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 5: who are friends of mine, who cover college hockey other things.

525
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: Has anybody come close to going from most losses in

526
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Speaker 5: the history of sports a national champion of a sport?

527
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 5: And the answer is no, but yeah, in the emotions

528
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 5: of fans, I think there's there's something to that. I

529
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 5: also think it can be dangerous if it goes too far, though,

530
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: if people say, Okay, Signetty did it right away. So

531
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: in any sport, the guy has to do it right away,

532
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 5: or hey, we're just going to throw them the trash

533
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: and go get the next guy.

534
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Speaker 1: You get one year.

535
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: Oh, you didn't do it, Okay, screw you. Go bring

536
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 5: in Jacob he didn't do it. Okay, Bring in Rebbie

537
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: he didn't do it.

538
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: Okay, bring in Eddie, he didn't do it.

539
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 5: You know, you can get weird and really screw.

540
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: Things up, right. I agree with that.

541
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Speaker 5: Hey know, I think there's a difference between stand emotion

542
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: and university management of a program. Those are two very

543
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: different things.

544
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Speaker 1: And what have you seen, Jeff, I mean, before we

545
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: get into what went wrong last night, give me, I

546
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: guess to offer a lifeline to Indiana fans here. Okay,

547
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: you see this program as up close and personal as

548
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: anybody covering it. And I've always been vociferous about that

549
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: fact that you know you're you're the guy on the

550
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: inside in my opinion, right, So, so with that said,

551
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: and I do live this day to day right totally.

552
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you do right. So so

553
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: give me an example if you will, or if there

554
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: isn't one, say you know, hey, Jake, I can't help

555
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: you there. Darren Devrees, maybe unfortunately is being judged or

556
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: lumped in with precedent here. It is his first year.

557
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: It is a new roster he had to put together late.

558
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Is there an example or is there a situation that

559
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: you look at Jeff and you say, this shows me

560
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: there has been progress from the time he arrived in

561
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: Bloomington to now. Is there an area that you look

562
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: at and you say that gives me hope and promise?

563
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 5: Well, I would say a couple things. One and I

564
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 5: don't know if you want to jump into Ryan Carr

565
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: later or how you want to do it. It's your show,

566
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 5: so you tell me how you want to do it.

567
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 5: But adding somebody to his and who is an NBA

568
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 5: vice president who's run a scouting department for more than decades,

569
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: who has twenty five years experience in the NBA scouting

570
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: both scouting colleges, high level high school guys, because they

571
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 5: had to start doing some of that with the one

572
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 5: and done, you know, kids coming to the NBA draft

573
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: basically about eleven ten, eleven months after they finished high

574
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 5: school and international. Bringing in somebody like that is really significant.

575
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: You know, when I when I dropped the news yesterday,

576
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 5: there was a lot of reactions from meaningful basketball people,

577
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 5: you know, Jonathan Cavoni, fran Priscilla, Jeff Goodman, others about

578
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 5: how they were blown away. The other thing that was

579
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: interesting was I mentioned started to fill up with like

580
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Speaker 5: Kentucky fans.

581
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Speaker 2: What can't we do this?

582
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: Louisville fans, what can't we do this? You know, other

583
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 5: fan bases wanting that, And I think that's I think

584
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 5: the Ryan car Hire is significant. And I understand people

585
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: who say, well, what you can do for us right now?

586
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Well, right now?

587
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: Nothing? Okay, let's just be honest.

588
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: Nothing. They're not gonna help.

589
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: You win another game this year. But one of the

590
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 5: problems within the end of basketball, and I think you

591
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 5: know you understand this because you follow it closely as well,

592
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: there has been a lack of planning for the future

593
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 5: for well over a decade now. This program has been

594
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: run way too much as a year two year operation.

595
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 5: And you know, when I when I talked to Ryan

596
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 5: last night. For the video interview, he even mentioned that

597
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: this program has gotten way too portal dependent. You cannot

598
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: you utilize the portal, Yes, live in it and depend

599
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 5: on it every year. No, there needs to be more

600
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 5: balanced roster. You need to bring in high school kids

601
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 5: who can develop. There needs to be more some little

602
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 5: more roster stibility. And the other thing is, you know,

603
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: some people are looking at the roster this year and going, well,

604
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: why does the roster look like this? And this is

605
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 5: not to make an excuse, but this is to explain.

606
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: You know, Dereize gets hired in March nineteenth, the portal's

607
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 5: already open. Number of guys who I know who were

608
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 5: in the portal, Jake, let's just be honest here. I

609
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 5: mean to get in trouble for saying this, but they

610
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 5: knew where they were going before they entered the portal.

611
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 5: And I knew they knew where they were going before

612
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: they entered the portal, So there was a very much

613
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 5: of a late start. Then it takes a little while

614
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 5: to get your full staff put together, so you're really

615
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 5: having to piece things together year one. And you know, again,

616
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 5: Lamar was great, Tucker's very helpful. Some other guys you

617
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 5: know could develop. Nick Dorn had a great stretch, but

618
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: the roster needs to be better moving forward, and everybody

619
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 5: is aware of the roster deficiencies. There is nobody in

620
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 5: cook Hall who is delusional about what is needed moving forward.

621
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Speaker 5: Now you got to go out and get it, of course,

622
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: but eyes are wide open, conversations are very honest and real.

623
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Speaker 5: And you have a staff with three guys with a

624
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 5: track record of landing players and Drew Adams, Kenny Johnson

625
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: and Rod Clark. And then you got a young guy,

626
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: Nick Norton, who did a really good job getting Chase Branham,

627
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 5: a twenty twenty seven kid who's now top thirty in

628
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: the country.

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Speaker 1: So what do you believe Ryan Carr's role will be

630
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Speaker 1: within that structure.

631
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Speaker 5: He's basically he's in charge of roster buildings. You know

632
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 5: he's going to oversee it. He's going to do a

633
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 5: lot of scouting, He's going to do a lot of

634
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 5: giving his opinion. You know he'll he'll work in conjunction

635
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: with the staff. Darren de Brees has the final call,

636
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: which you know, card to discuss the same situation when

637
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 5: he worked for Larry Bird, Kevin Pritchard, Chad Bucannon, you

638
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: know Mounty Walsh. But his primary role is is rock building,

639
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 5: roster building management, scouting management. Now the assistants are going

640
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 5: to do their scouting as well, and everybody's going to

641
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: matter and and running. Carr didn't make the point when

642
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: when I was talking with him last night before the game,

643
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: that like, hey, this is going to be like how

644
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 5: we do it at the pacer. We do it together. Yeah,

645
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 5: I have a leadership role, but we do this together.

646
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 5: But that that's going to be Car's primary job, and

647
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: he even said it. Job one A is is roster building.

648
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: Excuse me. So that's that's going to be his job.

649
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Speaker 5: And then he'll be able to give honest opinions too,

650
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 5: because he's been in a situation where, you know, you

651
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 5: always paid players in the n GAY, So not only

652
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 5: do you have to scout, evaluate, you have to do evaluation.

653
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: I mean, what do you think this guy's worth? What

654
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: draft slot would we take him at? What do we

655
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 5: think he's worth If you're talking about free agents, what

656
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 5: do you think we would be willing to pay this guy?

657
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: You know, what do we think Jay Querry is worth?

658
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 5: If we bring him.

659
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Speaker 1: In it too?

660
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Speaker 5: You know, so I think there will be a lot

661
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: of really good from Ryan Carr when you're talking about

662
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 5: the financial side of it as well, which is important

663
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: because you've got to try to figure out who you want,

664
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Speaker 5: who you can get, and what do you wanting to

665
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: pay certain guys.

666
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Speaker 1: Jeff in that Jeff rab Johns is my guest peaks

667
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: dot com where you can read his work. He's on

668
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. One other thing

669
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: about Ryan Began, I haven't asked Ryan this. Maybe there's

670
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: a better question for Ryan, but is this a Darren

671
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: Davrees higher? In other words, if Darren Dvrees moves on

672
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: from Indiana for whatever reason, whether that's a year from now,

673
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: three years from now, whatever does Ryan Carr. Was Ryan

674
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: Carr brought in by the university to report to Darren

675
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Davrees but isolated from Darren Debrees Or was this a

676
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: Devirees higher where he is part of the Devirees administration

677
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: as much or more so than the Indiana University basketball administration.

678
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question, And like, I don't know

679
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 6: if I can specifically delineate all of that, But what

680
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 6: I do know is that Carr Debrees talk shortly after

681
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 6: Direes was higher.

682
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 5: Debris and his family went up to a PACER playoff

683
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 5: game and Derision Car talked ten and they you know,

684
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 5: they've been texting pretty much since then, so there have

685
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 5: been a lot of basketball communication between those two. And

686
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 5: then in the last i'd say two weeks, things started

687
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 5: to get pretty serious as far as, hey, you know,

688
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: I would like you in this role. Let's really sit

689
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 5: get on the phone. They had. They had one really

690
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 5: long conversation where they got into specifics who would do,

691
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 5: what give me your ideas, what ideas do we think

692
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 5: would work, What ideas from the NBA would translate, what

693
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: ideas from the NBA would not translate, And they had

694
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Speaker 5: a really really good long conversation. So I think there's

695
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 5: a lot of alignment there, and I know Carr likes Debreeses,

696
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 5: you know, ideas of plan more modern style. You need

697
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 5: to be able to shoot the three. Yeah, you need

698
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 5: more post presence. Everybody realizes that you need a little

699
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 5: more dynamic playmaker at point guard. But there is a

700
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: lot of alignment between Running Carr and Dan de Raigie.

701
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Speaker 1: Does Indiana's nil allotment? Jeff Jeff rab John's my guest

702
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: with the success that Indiana football has had, the money

703
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: that comes in from that. Does the NIL allotment for

704
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Indiana University athletics. Does football help the basketball program because

705
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: that means more money is raised, or more NIL might

706
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: be there that they can shift over to basketball. Or

707
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: does Indiana look at it and say football is our

708
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: breadwinner and that is that our primary resources go there

709
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: and then basketball follows secondarily.

710
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's a lot of resources going to

711
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 5: football right now, and deservedly so. But I don't think

712
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 5: football takes away from basketball. I really don't, because you know,

713
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: football is the only entity in any college setting that

714
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Speaker 5: can automatically increase your revenues fairly easily by tens of

715
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: millions of dollars. No other sport can do that. Basketball

716
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 5: can raise your revenues by millions, but not tens of millions.

717
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Speaker 5: You just don't have that kind of visibility. The TV

718
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 5: contracts are not the same, the number of butts in seats,

719
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Speaker 5: season ticket sales, et cetera. Aren't the same. So football

720
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Speaker 5: success is just it is the tide that raises all

721
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Speaker 5: boats for a college athletic program. But no, I don't

722
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Speaker 5: think football success hurts how you NL if that's the question.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe Indiana makes the NCAA Tournament.

724
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Speaker 5: I think it's really tough right now, because you know,

725
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 5: there's still like zero point three seven wins above the bubble,

726
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: which is a metric that's on the team sheets this

727
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: year for the selection committee.

728
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Speaker 1: But they're good.

729
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: Have to win out, which means beating Michigan State at home,

730
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Speaker 5: as well as Minnesota, which they should be going on

731
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: the road, beating Ohio State, and then they're going to

732
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: need at least one probably two in the Big Ten

733
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Speaker 5: tournament because other teams get to win two. You know,

734
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Speaker 5: it's not like it's not a static metric. So I

735
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 5: think it's really tough. I think their chances are diminished,

736
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Speaker 5: but they're mathematically they're the good is Michigan State's quad

737
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 5: one game Ohio State would be a quad one game.

738
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Speaker 5: If you get to a second game in the Big

739
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Speaker 5: Ten tournament, that would be a quad one game. So

740
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Speaker 5: if all of a sudden you have five quad one wins,

741
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 5: yeah you're in the NCAA Tournament. Now there's a whole

742
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 5: bunch of ifs baked in there, and a team that

743
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: just lost at home to Northwestern would have to turn

744
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 5: around and beat some teams far better than Northwestern, so

745
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: it wouldn't be a miraculous run, but it would be

746
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 5: pretty close. So I think their chances are slim and

747
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 5: less they win out and get two in the Big

748
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: ten tournament.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, appreciate the time as always. I know it's a

750
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Speaker 1: busy time obviously with everything going on, but always great

751
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: breakdown man. Certainly appreciate it and enjoy and enjoy the

752
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: like start to hint again at spring. At least it's

753
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: sunny outside and we'll see if that means good fortune

754
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: for any on and down the stretch. But a lot

755
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: of work to be done. Appreciate the time as always all.

756
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: I was good talking to you, But Jeff rab John's

757
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: joining me from peagues dot com. We come back. I

758
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: do want to get more in depth and Joeli Erickson

759
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: will join us on everything going on with the Colts.

760
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: He's going to join us top of the hour. Also

761
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 1: want you to hear from Lamar Wilkerson, who I thought

762
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: had some pretty interesting comments. Licks are worthy as a

763
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: matter of fact, if we want to break those down yesterday.

764
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Speaker 1: But I don't want it to be all doom and

765
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: gloom on this day so I'm going to tell you

766
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: next about two reasons why you should say, you know

767
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: what from essentially Indiana fans standpoint, let's go. I'm happy

768
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: teams that are bringing us a little bit of sunshine.

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Speaker 1: Tell you next what I just checked, Eddie, our Elixir subscription.

770
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like that chat GPT. If

771
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: you use it too often, then there's like it says

772
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: like you cannot use again until you know that kind

773
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, I bought the the Elixir for those

774
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: that are unfamiliar with it, and we've had a lot

775
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: of success with this. It was one of our better purchases.

776
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: And we have limited budget, right, I mean, our nil

777
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: is when it comes to nil, we're you know, I mean,

778
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: we're Ohio Valley over here, right right. But the Elixir

779
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: is a computer system that we bought and it is

780
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: wonderful and you can use multiple languages and that's also

781
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: a fun aspect of it. But I didn't initially, and

782
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: this is the other fun part, Eddie. I want to

783
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: let you know. Initially, when I bought the Elixir, which

784
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: is a computer where we play a sound clip from

785
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: a coach or an athlete and then it puts it

786
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: through a pretty rigorous filtering system and then tells you

787
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: what the athlete really wanted to say. Right now. I

788
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: got a notice and I had this had gone to

789
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: my junk email go figure about the elixir, saying that

790
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: the subscription that I had, we had over. We had

791
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: gone over our data usage last month and so we

792
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: cannot refire it back up until one thirty Eastern today,

793
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: So very specific, I know. So I so sometime around

794
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: then we'll run some of the Lamar Wilkerson quotes. We

795
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: could use ballad two. But now this is the fun part.

796
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, what kind of shady elixir

797
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: did you buy that it gets caught in your junk

798
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: well for your spam.

799
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to be confused, for example, with my zipper

800
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: right which the same thing happens. Yeah, but the and

801
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: thank you for asking on that. I actually bought and

802
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: this it was on discount. I got it on a

803
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: Black Friday special. This is the Commodore two thousand Elexana.

804
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: You're off the black market both, but it's the Commodore

805
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: two thousand Elixir, which apparently was a hot Christmas item

806
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty eight. So I did get a deal

807
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: on it. That's why it sounds like a robot. But

808
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: that is correct. But here's the thing, And because I

809
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: was willing to be patient with this data thing, with

810
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: the elixir, I did get to exercise a new option

811
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: where we can then get the interpretation in either English

812
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: or in Chinese. Really yeah, so we can also get

813
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: interpretations in the Mandarin language, which will be fun, right yeah,

814
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: for our Mandarin speaking friends, that'll be and I mean

815
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: we will skyrote we're going internationals what I'm getting at,

816
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: So we can experiment with that. But I wanted to

817
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: let everybody know because we talked about Indiana last night

818
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: and their disastrous performance down the stretch against Northwestern, we

819
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: can talk about the Pacers in the fact that it

820
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: was another victory last night. Because you're getting minutes for

821
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: guys that maybe normally wouldn't get a lot of minutes

822
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: from and you are staying right there in the thick

823
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: of it, Eddie. Do you happen to have the NBA

824
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: right now standings if you will, and we're inverting these

825
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: which so well, what I want to know is this,

826
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Speaker 1: if we were to take the teams with the six

827
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: worst records and rank them one through six, so in

828
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: other words, if you're going for and I understand that

829
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: the difference is whether you're the first the worst team

830
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: or the third worst team, your odds are the same,

831
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: and landing that top I get that, But just for

832
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: the visualization or the understanding of it, the worst record

833
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: would be let's say, in this situation, we'll call them

834
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: seeds for lack of a better thing, the worst record

835
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: is the one seed than the two seed, three, four, five,

836
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Speaker 1: and six of the six worst records? Who currently would

837
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: be the sixth seed? Who is the team that has

838
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: the sixth best worst record? That would be the Utah Jazz. Okay,

839
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: the five seed would belong to who the New Orleans Pelicans,

840
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: The four seed would belong to who the Washington Washington Wizards.

841
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: The three seed would belong to who.

842
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: The Brooklyn Brooklyn Nets, The two seed would belong to

843
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: the Indiana Pacers, and the one seed would belong to

844
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 4: Sacramento Kings, who won the other night. Right, So that, honestly,

845
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: I mean, we're at the point now you know they're

846
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: not going to make the playoffs.

847
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know what if you it is impossible.

848
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: You saw what Boozer did last night for Duke. You

849
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: see what Debansa does the stuff with Peterson in Kansas.

850
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Maybe the good news here is if something goes haywire

851
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: and the Pacers, in typical NBA fashion, get kind of

852
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: screwed and drop back and find themselves with the fourth pick.

853
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: You know, maybe Peterson falls that low. And he is

854
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: a wonderful talent, but there's question about just the overall

855
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on there with nil money and

856
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: the minutes he's playing in Kansas and is he hurt

857
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: and there just seems to be a lot of drama.

858
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: But he's a great player, Okay. Now, So that was

859
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: kind of a victory last night to stay there in

860
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: that two spot. But I also wanted to point out,

861
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Miami RedHawks. I know that obviously their

862
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: coach has been on The Morning Show. Their entire coaching staff,

863
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: essentially the Miami basketball team, their entire coaching staff, but one.

864
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: I think they have one assistant coach that is not

865
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: affiliated with the state of Indiana. The rest the literally

866
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: the rest of that coaching staff are Indiana guys and

867
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: have played like a high school here or college here.

868
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: They have all kinds of connections to here, and you

869
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: look at what they're doing. And I know I'm gonna

870
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: make two I'm gonna make two comments that are almost

871
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: borderline embarrassing. Last night they beat Easter I think it

872
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: was last night, but they recently beat Eastern Michigan. They're

873
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: twenty eight and I'm blemished. Okay, And you can tell

874
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: me all day long, Jake, give me a break. Look

875
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: at their pre conference schedule. Old Dominion, Trinity Air Force, Mercyhurst, Arkansas,

876
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Pine Bluff, You U and C Greensboro. I you East Maine.

877
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, But they're twenty eight

878
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: and oh and I'm going to give a really bad comparison,

879
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: but it has a little bit a bag off the sounder. Yep. Now,

880
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: this isn't really an analogy rather than just a comparison.

881
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, I was part of

882
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: a team that was twenty two and zero. Now there

883
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: is zero comparison to a non varsity level basketball team

884
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: in a high school and a Division one MAC program.

885
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: I totally get it. And there's not a lot of

886
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: comparison that can be made between the mind and the

887
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: maturity of a fourteen year old and that of a

888
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty year old or in this case with

889
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: Miami twenty two to twenty three year old, I get it.

890
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: But if you've played sports, no matter what level you play,

891
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: but if you play sports, and yes, the longer you

892
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: go or the more experience you get, the more games

893
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: you would need with it. But the reality is this,

894
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: no matter what level you play, eventually you start playing

895
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: against yourself. You start playing against It's just like golf.

896
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: Golf is the ultimate game because the only competitor is you.

897
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: And when you are twenty eight and oh, eventually you

898
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: start playing not against Eastern Michigan and not against Western

899
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: Michigan and not against ball State, but you are playing

900
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: against the internal pressure of yourself of knowing that record

901
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: is hanging over you all the time. That record is

902
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: more noted to that roster in Miami than it is

903
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: whoever they're playing next, and you start playing against that

904
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: as much as the opponent. And that's why it is impressive,

905
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: regardless of who they're playing, that they've gone this far

906
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: and they are the only team in Division and college

907
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: basketball unbeat. Also, Indiangnite wanted to simply point out, off

908
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: to a ten and two start, they are leading, they

909
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: are leading the pro Volleyball the Major League Volleyball League

910
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: right now at ten and two. Their next home game,

911
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: great environ. I love going up there to the Fishers

912
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: Event Center. They take on Orlando Orlando. Oh no, excuse me.

913
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: They just beat Orlando. Sorry about that their next upcoming game. No,

914
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: I take that back there against Orlando. No, that's not right.

915
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Hang on, bear with me here, Eddie, I got to

916
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: get the schedule. My computer just completely froze up in

917
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: front of me.

918
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 5: Here.

919
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: Next home game for the Indie Ignite, who are off

920
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: to their ten and two start, is Sunday Sunday against

921
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: Omaha two o'clock. That is at the Fishers event The supernovas,

922
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: that is correct, super nova Joel A. Ericsson supernova in

923
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: his own right. We'll join us next. We will go

924
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: over what's going on NFL. Combine that conversation other side

925
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: this from Gary. By the way, Gary's not a fan

926
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: of mine, but Gary, for like six months points out

927
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: that he's not a fan of mine. I appreciate that

928
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: you continued to listen, and I mean that sincerely. Hey Jake,

929
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: you talk about how authentic you are, and now you're

930
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: doing something that Mark Patrick used to do. Does Mark

931
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: Patrick care that you steal his material with this Elixir business.

932
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 1: Give me a break. I know Mark. I like Mark

933
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't recall it. Mark was a talented

934
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: it still is a very talented guy. Did great radio,

935
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: did a lot of fun things. That's not one of

936
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: them that I recall. I don't remember how we did.

937
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: How do we come about with the elixir? Do you remember, Eddie?

938
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: It was one of those spontaneous things, Jake, And you know,

939
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: is it possible that it was spontaneous because it was

940
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: in my subconscious from something I heard on the Bob

941
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: and Tom program in nineteen eighty eight. I guess, all right,

942
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: now you're just on your therapist couch, that's right. But

943
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't recall stealing that from Mark Patrick. But I

944
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: can certainly text him and ask him if he's okay

945
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: with it. Something i'd ask a good question. Isn't an

946
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: elix or a drink? Maybe? I think we made the

947
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: name up too, didn't we? I think I just can't.

948
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: I just said the elixir two thousand or something. I

949
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: don't remember. I don't recall. Did you get ahold of

950
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: Joel By by the way, Yeah, Joel a ericson speaking

951
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: of drinks, probably pinting for the beer Fairy's been a

952
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: long time since does Joel still remember us? By the way,

953
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: been a long time since we've had him on. Joel.

954
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: My name is Jake Querry. I do the program from

955
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: twelve until three. It's a pleasure to meet you. How

956
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: are you.

957
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 7: I'm doing good. I do believe in elixir is a drink.

958
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 7: It's like Bugs Bunny secret stuff from space jam that's

959
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 7: an elixir?

960
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh is it really? See? I think in that movie it.

961
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 7: Turned out to be water, but they pitched it as

962
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 7: an elixir.

963
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: Maybe that also was in my subconscious I don't know.

964
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: Gary probably knows the answer to these things. He keeps

965
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: it tally, apparently of areas of where we've been stealing material? Joel,

966
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: are you to get mad at me?

967
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 7: I cited space jams?

968
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: That is correct, you did well. You're a journalist, right, so, Joel?

969
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: Are you at the combine right now?

970
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 7: I am, Yes, I am standing in the convention of who's.

971
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: The most famous person you've seen today? I saw one

972
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: person yesterday. I'm not going to say any names. I

973
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: saw one person who is a famed NFL writer, and

974
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: I was stunned. They looked like the Great Gazoo. I

975
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: couldn't believe how small they were with with with a

976
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: huge head. Do you know what I'm talking about? I don't.

977
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't.

978
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 7: Weirdly, that kind of describes most.

979
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: Half the room. Yes, that's correct. Yeah.

980
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 7: Most most famous person I saw today, John Harbaugh walk past.

981
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: So well that's kind of cool, right, yeah, yeah, John Harball.

982
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, but

983
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: you know he's brother in laws with Tom Crean. Actually

984
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: his brother is so he's brother in law in law

985
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: in law, right, something like that. Yeah, they're there. They

986
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: all show up at all the games in front. They

987
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: should make more mention of that. Okay, before we get

988
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: to yesterday and some of the comments that were made,

989
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: let's begin with today. Is there anything new that has

990
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: come out of the combine today or that you anticipate

991
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: coming out today?

992
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 7: Not not that I'm not that I'm aware of yet,

993
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 7: but hopefully, hopefully I'm going to start making more more

994
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 7: of a making more of my n here in a

995
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 7: little bit and hopefully I can dig some stuff up.

996
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's anything hugely new other than

997
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 7: I did just see there's another linebacker available. Though he

998
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 7: would cost a lot, because it sounds like Tremaine Edmunds

999
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 7: has been given permission to seek a trade from Chicago,

1000
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 7: but he would cost quite a bit.

1001
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: Of money the Colts themselves, Joel, let's begin with this.

1002
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard addressed the media yesterday. Shane Steichen was on

1003
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: with J ANDB. Chris Ballard was on again this morning

1004
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: on the Morning Show. I don't know if you heard that,

1005
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: but was there anything that Chris Ballard said that you

1006
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: took away that you found to be a newsworthy nugget

1007
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: that he did not anticipate going into it.

1008
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 7: I think most of what he said was kind of expected.

1009
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 7: I do think it was interesting that he was so

1010
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 7: confident in resigning Alec Pearce, not not necessarily from a

1011
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 7: local standpoint. I think if you've been paying attention to

1012
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 7: you know what people like me have been writing and saying,

1013
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 7: you you know that Alec Pearce is the type of

1014
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 7: person who who maybe would be more likely to resign

1015
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 7: than people would think. But I know at the end

1016
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 7: of the season, I got a lot of pushback from

1017
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 7: people when I just quoted him. I didn't that I

1018
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 7: had made up a quote which it was weird because

1019
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 7: it was on video that if they got Daniel Jones

1020
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 7: back that it would go a long way to resigning

1021
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 7: Alec Pierce. So nationally I think everyone thought, well, Pierce

1022
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 7: definitely wants out of there. That's I haven't I haven't

1023
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 7: thought that or.

1024
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: Been told that or anything.

1025
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 7: I've been told the opposite of that, that he was

1026
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 7: probably more likely to want to come back. And then

1027
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 7: Ballard saying that they're confident that they'll be able to

1028
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 7: get him back sort of to me, I think is

1029
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 7: it maybe wasn't surprising, but I think it was a

1030
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 7: surprising to other people you know, around around here and

1031
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 7: maybe online, thinking well, he's just gonna go to the

1032
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 7: open market and get as much. I mean, yes, Alec

1033
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 7: Pierce is very, very valuable, but also you know, he's

1034
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 7: also a guy who I think is it likes for

1035
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 7: he is and really does like him and Dame Zones

1036
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 7: really are very close, you.

1037
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: Know, the the Alec Pierce. Okay, let's go to this, Joel,

1038
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: And I've made this mention before. If you're the Colts, okay,

1039
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 1: do you believe the Colts will use a franchise tag?

1040
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 7: I think that there's I think that there's a pretty

1041
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 7: strong possibility that's going to be too hard to get

1042
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 7: both of them done before Monday.

1043
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: I think. And so if that's the case, you would

1044
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: tag Pierce, right because the money that if you tag Jones,

1045
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: the forty seven million that you would be required to

1046
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: pay him is far greater than market value, whereas if

1047
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: you tag Pierce, the twenty eight that you'd have to

1048
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: pay him, or roughly twenty eight is basically his market

1049
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: value anyway.

1050
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, Yeah, And I think the other thing is that,

1051
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 7: at least the way they pitched it yesterday is that

1052
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 7: they don't really think they're going to have to use

1053
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 7: it with either of them. So maybe you I would think,

1054
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 7: like I would think that especially with the stuff Jones

1055
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 7: has said. Jones has been bullish on coming back, you know,

1056
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 7: really ever since the end of the season, So I

1057
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 7: would think that you'd be able to go, well, maybe

1058
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 7: if we're not done with Jones, we're close with Jones,

1059
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 7: so we tagged Pierce just to make sure, you know,

1060
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 7: but they definitely want to keep Ballard had an odd

1061
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 7: a side where he kind of said, you know, the

1062
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 7: only reason we ever used the tag of Michael Pittman

1063
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 7: was that he was in Africa hunting, and we were

1064
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 7: worried about him signing the dotted line on what we

1065
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 7: had agreed to, which that's that's interesting that he was

1066
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 7: on a plane and that's why they tagged it. But

1067
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 7: they would prefer to not do those things.

1068
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Joel A. Erickson is my guest. He's on the Java

1069
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: House cold Brew coffee guest line. By the way, cold

1070
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: brew meaning the manner in which it comes about. You

1071
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: can also get a hot coffee at Java House. Joel.

1072
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: The deal with Daniel Jones, okay, Number one? Do you

1073
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: believe he's your week one starter if he's resigned? I

1074
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: have my reservations.

1075
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 7: The colts believe he's the week one starter if you signed,

1076
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 7: and generally the colts are the people who end up

1077
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 7: mattering in these things. I mean, I have my reservations

1078
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 7: just based on the Achilles tear and his recovery. But

1079
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 7: they they the way they're talking, they think he's the

1080
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 7: week one starter.

1081
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: If he is not ready to go. Do you believe

1082
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: that there is the chance they would bring in a

1083
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: veteran or do you think in fact that because Chris

1084
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Ballard and I get it, he's not going to say

1085
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: open for business come and take Anthony Richardson, but he

1086
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: was noncommittal on that. Do you think Richardson is still

1087
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: a part of the Colts at training camp? I think no.

1088
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 7: I know what Chris Ballard said, but it just to me,

1089
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 7: even some of the stuff that went on last year,

1090
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 7: it just feels like there's a little bit of a

1091
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 7: disconnect there. I would assume that Richardson wants a clear

1092
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 7: chance to start, and he's not necessarily going to get that.

1093
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: He's not going to get that here. You know, they

1094
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: believe in.

1095
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 7: Jones as the immediate future for this quarterbacking situation. So

1096
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 7: I've been I've in my head it's been that he's

1097
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 7: going to end up somewhere else.

1098
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: Do you believe that Nick Cross will be a cult

1099
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: when they show up at training camp?

1100
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 7: That is a really interesting one because I think it

1101
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 7: all depends on the price point the safety market is.

1102
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 7: Is this really hard market to predict because it feels

1103
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 7: like every year now there's two or three guys and

1104
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 7: it's hard to predict which ones are going to get it.

1105
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 7: But there's two or three guys that get big money

1106
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 7: in the safety market every year, and then it just

1107
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 7: falls off a table. And the next group of guys

1108
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 7: end up waiting and waiting and waiting. And I don't

1109
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 7: know at this point exactly where the NFL sort of

1110
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 7: slots Nick Cross in.

1111
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, do they see.

1112
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 7: Him as something more than a in the box safety,

1113
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 7: Because if they see some of him as something more

1114
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 7: than in the block safety, I think there's a chance

1115
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 7: that he gets into that big money if they think

1116
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 7: that that's what he is. I would guess that maybe

1117
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 7: he's more affordable and he's more in that second group

1118
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 7: of players who have to, you know, kind of take

1119
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 7: what they can get. And I think in that situation,

1120
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 7: there's a chance that the contract he signs is advantageous

1121
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 7: for the Colts and that he's back. If he's in

1122
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 7: the big high money where you're getting, you know, something

1123
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 7: like what cam Binen got last year, I don't think

1124
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 7: he's back.

1125
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: Do you believe that Zaire Franklin will be an integral

1126
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: part of the Colts when training camp begins?

1127
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 7: That one, That one was maybe the hardest one for

1128
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 7: me to read yesterday. I still think, you know, Chris

1129
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 7: Ballard said we have to get faster in the front. Steven, Well,

1130
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 7: that's that's three positions that's the fense. Then that's defensive

1131
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 7: tackle and linebacker. And we all kind of know, you

1132
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 7: know that you're not really talking about getting faster at

1133
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 7: defensive tackle. You might want to get more explosive at

1134
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 7: defensive tackle. I think defense attacker. Really you're looking at

1135
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 7: you know, we need somebody for when the Forrest Buckner

1136
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 7: and Grover Stewart are too old to be here anymore

1137
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 7: more than anything, which leaves you with defensive end and linebacker.

1138
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 7: And if you're going to get younger and faster, faster linebacker,

1139
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 7: it's defensive end too. But in terms of the word faster,

1140
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 7: those defensive line positions to me, usually you talk about

1141
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 7: explosion and quickness and stuff like that. You don't necessarily

1142
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 7: talk about speed. I think that's more of a linebacker thing.

1143
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 7: Now you could bring back you could, in theory, bring

1144
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 7: back Franklin and get a young, fast, weak side linebacker

1145
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 7: and get faster at linebacker. But and I asked Chris

1146
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 7: Ballard this. You know, they talked a lot about having

1147
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 7: those young guys on the field last year and defensive

1148
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 7: backs on the field instead of linebackers.

1149
01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: It didn't really work out that way.

1150
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 7: Those linebackers were kind of on the field a lot,

1151
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 7: and even even without and so I think I think

1152
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 7: there's a chance he's gone, but I just don't know.

1153
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 7: Just given that, you can also, you know, maybe just

1154
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 7: draft a week side linebacker.

1155
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: Joe what Joel Erickson is our guest. When you look

1156
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: at if there's a year to not have a first

1157
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: round pick, you always want a first round pick. I

1158
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: get it, right, but I kind of get the feeling.

1159
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: And you tell me in this chicken and egg question,

1160
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: which it is. Is this a draft that doesn't have

1161
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: a lot of first round oomph and therefore I guess

1162
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't totally hurt you if you're not in the

1163
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: first round. Or is this a draft that because the

1164
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: team that I cover is not in the first round,

1165
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it doesn't have a lot of oomph

1166
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: only because I'm not paying attention to the first round.

1167
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 7: Uh, it kind of feels like it kind of feels

1168
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 7: like maybe this is a draft it's more deep than

1169
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 7: you know, exciting at the top. And that's that's just

1170
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 7: from listening the draft analyst talk and some of these

1171
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 7: guys that get a little bit more into the prospects,

1172
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 7: like you know, just for example, Ruben Bain from Miami,

1173
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 7: who you know, we all watch him in the National

1174
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 7: Championship games. He's a great player, but he's got very

1175
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 7: short arms, and they're talking about him dropping to like

1176
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 7: the back end of the top ten. They're not talking

1177
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 7: about him dropping further than that, which sort of tells me,

1178
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 7: you know, maybe they don't have that high end talent.

1179
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 7: The other thing is I think is there's there's really

1180
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 7: one first round quarterback from my understanding, and it's Mendoza,

1181
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 7: and he'll be gone with the first pick. So but

1182
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 7: the other thing is, it sounds like it's deep at

1183
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 7: defensive end. It sounds like it's deep at linebacker, which

1184
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 7: obviously those are the two positions the Colts need most.

1185
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 7: It's kind of the opposite of last year, where both

1186
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 7: of those things were very very Linebacker was incredibly thin

1187
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 7: last year, to the point that I think that the

1188
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 7: linebackers the Colts wanted all ended up going much higher

1189
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 7: than a spot the Colts would have picked them. So

1190
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 7: it seems like it's more of a deep class than

1191
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 7: a high end first round type class.

1192
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: Now, Joel, I got to ask you. Joel Ericson is

1193
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: our guest. Most of the conversations you and I have

1194
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: are on the radio. We don't have a lot of

1195
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: discussions outside of the radio, not to say we don't

1196
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: get along. Greg Gary or Greg I can't remember his name.

1197
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: Some guy whose name starts with the G on the

1198
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: text line is telling me that I'm not authentic now

1199
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: and he says I'm not authentic because you know, I

1200
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: get to go to games for free and things like that.

1201
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: I personally, it is my personal belief that when you

1202
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: make a long list of the things and the attributes

1203
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: that really make me great, that humility is probably the

1204
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: top of the list, and therefore there's an authenticity that

1205
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: comes with that. Would you agree with that just based

1206
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: on the limited exposure that you've had.

1207
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so, I think so.

1208
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: See.

1209
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, if if authenticity was your problem,

1210
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 7: I don't think we'd be able to talk about the

1211
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 7: Edmund Fitzgerald.

1212
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: Or or the fact and I can't remember if it

1213
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: was you or or what are your colleagues? But somebody

1214
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: one time was covering a game somewhere and send a

1215
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: thing like help, I'm stranded in this town for an

1216
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: extra day? Did anyone get murdered here? And I gave

1217
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: him an alphabetized list with GPS on locations of seven

1218
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: different spots to hit. Now that's authentic, is it not?

1219
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 7: See?

1220
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: That's the thing, you know.

1221
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 7: I just don't think. I don't think you can make

1222
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 7: a claim of, you know, being fake if we know

1223
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 7: that you like one of the one of the clips

1224
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 7: that you guys still have of me laughing hysterically at

1225
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 7: you know, you bringing up Milwaukee serial killers and locations.

1226
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: That's right. Do we have that clip by chance, Eddie?

1227
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it made the move, Joel, can

1228
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: we get you to laugh maniacally real quick as if

1229
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: you might actually be a serial killer?

1230
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 7: It's hard to do that. It's hard to do that

1231
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 7: laugh in a convention center hallway because it's so loud.

1232
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: It was, I mean, what it was was I was

1233
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: pointing out that in Milwaukee where the Five Serve Forum

1234
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: is the home of the Bucks, that that is the

1235
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: location of Jeffrey Dahmer's chocolate factory where he worked. And

1236
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: once they tore down the chocolate factory, they ultimately built

1237
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: the arena. And the first concert was a doubleheader of

1238
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: the violent Fems and the killers, which is true. And

1239
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: when I met, when I dropped that nugget on you,

1240
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: and I think, to be honest with you, I don't

1241
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: think you were laughing out of humor, but rather out

1242
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: of incredulous disbelief, redundant over the fact that I just

1243
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: said it on the radio and you thought to yourself,

1244
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: this guy's authentic, right.

1245
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, that's definitely.

1246
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: By the way, Here we go, Eddie, I believe has

1247
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: it here? Here we go. That is a true story.

1248
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: Look it up. That's a true story. That's a true story.

1249
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: Look that up. You people of Wisconsin are demented. Yeah,

1250
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean right there. And you know Ed Gaines from

1251
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: Wisconsin too, I mean you know, and he's made his

1252
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: rounds on the Netflix off. So you guys are doing

1253
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: your part up there right See.

1254
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 7: See that's the that's the kind of last you can't

1255
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 7: let out in a convention center hallway. No one's no

1256
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 7: one is wandering around, uh for whatever conventions here because

1257
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 7: I think there's other ones that are not.

1258
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: The NFL.

1259
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 7: Really wants to hear that laugh.

1260
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: See. I don't know if I should take this as

1261
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: a compliment. Kirk has texted in this and the limited

1262
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: interaction I've had with Jake off the field, I can

1263
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: attest to the fact that he's just as weird off

1264
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: the field. I don't know if that's is that a compliment, Joel,

1265
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where we're going with this, right, I

1266
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: think it is. I think it is. I you know, Wisconsin,

1267
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, do people walk and maybe

1268
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: this is the case. I don't. It's kind of like

1269
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: people that have BO don't know they have BO, Like

1270
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: do I walk away? And people are thinking to themselves, no,

1271
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: that's one weird dude, that which is fine, Which is fine,

1272
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: but you can just tell me right.

1273
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 7: Well, I mean the hard part is like, I don't

1274
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 7: think that. But again, I'm I'm from Wisconsin, which we've

1275
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 7: already established as a place for people who are maybe

1276
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 7: a little bit.

1277
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: You know odd. Here's the thing, I don't know what

1278
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: it means about me or what I should say about

1279
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: how whether I should find comfort in the fact that

1280
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: somebody is claiming that I might be normal when their

1281
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: laugh sounds like this, Right.

1282
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 7: I'm fair, It's totally fair, totally fair.

1283
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: Joe, How would you describe on a serious note? And

1284
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: I know that we are very fortunate to do it,

1285
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: and I know that you know, there are a lot

1286
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Speaker 1: of people that would that would love to be able

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: to go to the combine and see kind of behind

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01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: the curtain, if you will, even though it's been obviously

1289
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: more exposed than it has been in the past through

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01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: the NFL Network and other such avenues. But overall, when

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Speaker 1: you get home from work and your wife says, so,

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01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: how was work today, and you say, well, I was

1293
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: at the first day of the combine, and she says,

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01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: explain to me what all that means. How would you

1295
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,959
Speaker 1: describe the experience of covering the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 7: It's it's it's the thing about And I agree with you,

1297
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 7: like I am very, very lucky to do this job,

1298
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 7: you know, like my dad has worked on dairy farms

1299
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 7: and construction his whole life. That I would much rather

1300
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 7: do this than either of those two things. And that's

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01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 7: all very very true. But the thing that I think

1302
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 7: when people ask me about my job, that they're most

1303
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 7: surprised to find out is that most of my job

1304
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 7: is standing somewhere waiting for somebody more important to have

1305
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 7: time to talk to me. And I think the Combine

1306
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 7: is sort of like the distillation of that. It's it's

1307
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 7: an entire week for me of standing somewhere waiting for

1308
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 7: somebody more important to maybe have the time to talk

1309
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 7: to me. And you know, listeners can decide if that's

1310
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 7: fun or not. It's not my favorite thing, but that's

1311
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 7: that's kind of the combine. It's it's a lot of

1312
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 7: being around and standing around and trying to get to

1313
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 7: the right person to speak to, which is you know,

1314
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 7: it's just it's a lot of waiting. That's that's that's

1315
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 7: the job. Back to my job is there's a lot

1316
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 7: of waiting, and the combine is sort of like ground

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 7: zero for the waiting.

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Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that I have to remind

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 1: myself Joel and I thought about this yesterday when I

1320
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: was at the combine. You know, we look at and

1321
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: I make fun of or I point out Gary Greg

1322
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: who texts in and literally probably twice a week, has

1323
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: something to say about what a moron I am, or

1324
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: something I said that's wrong, or whatever else right. And

1325
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: there are probably times where he's pointing something out where

1326
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: I was wrong or I had the wrong opinion, or

1327
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: he'll write something and I say, anybody, and you say

1328
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: to yourself, you know, that's a good pint. I didn't

1329
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: think of it that way. One of the things I

1330
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: think that comes with and I'm sure you get emails

1331
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: as well from people telling you that you wrote a

1332
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: column that was incorrect, or you had a fact wrong,

1333
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: or you asked a bad question. And it's easy, from

1334
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: a human nature standpoint to get insecure of that or

1335
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: to get defensive of that. Except for that, to a

1336
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: large extent, our jobs are to do exactly that about

1337
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: other people. You go to the combine and Chris Baller

1338
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,879
Speaker 1: comes out on a podium, I'm asking him ten different questions.

1339
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: If I was there for that, I'm asking him ten

1340
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: different questions, all of which are indirectly questioning the manner

1341
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: in which he goes about his business. So shouldn't it

1342
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: be fair game and fair play that we should handle

1343
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: and that critique of ourselves.

1344
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I've thought about that a lot too. I've

1345
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 7: thought about that a lot too, just in terms of that,

1346
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 7: that is what we do. You know, people a lot

1347
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 7: of times, you know, you go and you know, in

1348
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 7: athletes upset or something aut a question and you think, well,

1349
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 7: you know, if someone was at the end of my

1350
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 7: pickup basketball game and said, how did you miss that

1351
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 7: three pointer? When there was no one around you. I guess,

1352
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 7: I guess that one wouldn't bother me that much because

1353
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 7: i'ld just be like, well, I'm not very good, that's why.

1354
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 7: But you know, the similar situation for someone who is good,

1355
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 7: that they might not like that question very much. And

1356
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 7: it's one of those things you kind of have to

1357
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 7: try to remind yourself every once in a while, because

1358
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 7: you know, it is easy to go it is easy

1359
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 7: to get kind of ruffled and feel some of that

1360
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 7: stuff versus versus knowing that, yeah, that is what we do. We,

1361
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 7: like you said, we spend most of our time saying, well,

1362
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 7: you guys said this, but this happened, and you guys said,

1363
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 7: you're going to do this, but why are you still?

1364
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: All that stuff is.

1365
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 7: Not necessarily the most fun for those guys to answer,

1366
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 7: and you know, we probably do react the same way

1367
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 7: most of.

1368
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: The time, Joel, when looking at this off season, listening

1369
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: to Chris Ballard, and I think a year ago there

1370
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: was a lot of uncertainty and then you know, and

1371
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: things they obviously played well and Daniel Jones played well,

1372
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: and I mentioned earlier the Achilles for Daniel Jones was

1373
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily the tendon that ended his season. But rather

1374
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: his inability to handle straight line rush and Pittsburgh exposed

1375
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: that a little bit. And we can talk about the

1376
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: injury all we want, but we were starting to see

1377
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of water being taken in Daniel Jones'

1378
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: inconsistencies that can come with a lot of pressure, right,

1379
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: but it's still they were still playing at a high

1380
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: level even with all of that, and they pushed all

1381
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: in for Sauce Gardner. Do you feel like now it

1382
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: is a franchise that still feels that it is a

1383
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: move or a breakaway from being right there or have

1384
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: they been tempered a little bit in terms of this

1385
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: season and their expectation and just where they think things

1386
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: are going.

1387
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Speaker 7: I know this surprises a lot of people, but I

1388
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 7: do think that the Colts believe that, you know, with

1389
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,520
Speaker 7: better circumstances in terms of the health and Daniel Jones specifically,

1390
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 7: that they are a really good team. I think I think,

1391
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 7: not not just crisp Out, but definitely shins Tiken. I

1392
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 7: think feels like, if you if he has the pieces

1393
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 7: to that offense, that he can get them back to

1394
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 7: where they were before that. Because even I think even

1395
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 7: in the you know, the Pittsburgh game, in the Atlanta game,

1396
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 7: some of those games where Jones made more mistakes than usual,

1397
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 7: they still were putting up you know, big, big time

1398
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 7: yardage numbers, big time points numbers. And I do think

1399
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 7: he feels like, if they've got those guys, that they

1400
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 7: can be really, really good, you know, and that that's

1401
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 7: just that's we'll find out, you know, we'll find out

1402
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 7: if Daniel Jones Achilles tendon allows him to play the

1403
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 7: way he did at the beginning of last year. But

1404
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 7: I do think from a Colt's perspective, and specifically the

1405
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 7: people in charge of the Colts, I do think that

1406
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 7: they believe that they are they can be that kind

1407
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,759
Speaker 7: of offense again, and if they get some help on defense,

1408
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 7: that they can be what we thought they were going

1409
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 7: to be when they were eight and two and in

1410
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 7: the playoffs and competing for the division of everything like that.

1411
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: By the way, here's one fella that chimes in in

1412
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: our conversation, Jake, I'm a huge fan of yours. Stay

1413
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: the way you are. I love your enthusiasm. Now that now, Joel,

1414
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: here's the thing that you're excited by that right when

1415
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: you read that, And that's a nice compliment. Okay, fella's

1416
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: last name was Quarry. Yeah, Now I don't believe that

1417
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm related about how many Queries can there be walking around? Right?

1418
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1419
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: I have?

1420
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:30,879
Speaker 7: You met many Queries?

1421
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: I have, but it was, oddly enough, I met a

1422
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: ton of them once. It was the weirdest thing ever

1423
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: a family reunion. Outside of that, No, there's a bunch

1424
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: of Queries walking around and Spencer in the Cloverdale area

1425
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: that apparently, and I don't know if this is unique

1426
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: to our family or common to most, but apparently, back

1427
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: in like the eighteen eighties or the early nineteen hundreds,

1428
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: there were a couple of Query brothers that got drunk

1429
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: on moonshine and got in a fight, and one of

1430
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: them got po'ed and moved to Hamblton County and left

1431
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 1: everybody in Owen County, And so that branched the family.

1432
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: And now there's two different families. So we don't we

1433
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: don't claim those other folks, is what I'm getting at,

1434
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 1: even though that was one hundred and fifty years ago.

1435
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's there are a ton of Ericson's, especially in Wisconsin,

1436
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 7: and so I don't have the same I don't have

1437
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 7: the same experience because there there's there's just an enormous

1438
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 7: amount of ericson.

1439
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: Are you are you related to Leaf? You know what?

1440
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 7: I have no idea, but I like to claim it.

1441
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: Aren't There two different spellings s e N or s

1442
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: O n?

1443
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 7: Uh? Well, there's there's also like a Norwegian version that's

1444
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 7: s s O n.

1445
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: The EANs the Marcus eric right, yeah.

1446
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Ians tend to be more Swedish and other

1447
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 7: countries than Norway, at least in my my general understanding,

1448
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 7: there was there was actually at my high school, in

1449
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 7: my class, there was a lease ericson who we lockered

1450
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,839
Speaker 7: next to each other, but HER's.

1451
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: With Ian and I was O n just out of curiosity.

1452
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: Was least an attractive gal?

1453
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 7: You're very attractive.

1454
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: Well there you go. That's good news that it was

1455
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: an e n owen situation, right, I mean, for what

1456
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: it's worth. Uh. And you're you're of this Feetish side

1457
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: or you're of the other side.

1458
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,879
Speaker 7: I'm Norwegian, I am my dad is Norwegian.

1459
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: So you're on a cruise you're on a cruise line

1460
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: as opposed to a chef, is what we're getting at, right, Okay.

1461
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 7: Yes, my, my, that part of my that part of

1462
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 7: my people is apparently incredible at cross country skiing. I've

1463
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 7: learned over that's right week.

1464
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: And then they all collapse as soon as they cross

1465
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: the finish line and then get their gold and go home.

1466
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, except for except for the one dude that wins

1467
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 7: all the gold medal, because that guy I think might

1468
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 7: be a machine.

1469
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: Joel, which country is he from? The guy that wins

1470
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: all the golds? He doesn't, he doesn't collapse. You're saying

1471
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: he's Nordic.

1472
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 7: No, he's from Norway.

1473
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: His name is his name?

1474
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to get this right.

1475
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 7: Is Johanna's hussfoot klobo?

1476
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: Can you do that one more time? Please?

1477
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 7: Johannas huff foot clobbo.

1478
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: See that. Now here's the thing. Uh, that's what it

1479
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: sounds like. If you need to clear your throat. Say

1480
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: it one more time, one more time, jo Hanna's huss

1481
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: And then once you clear your throat, you sound more

1482
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: like this, Eddie, Eddie, There you go. Joel a ericson

1483
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: joining us job House Colbrew Coffee guest line, Joel, appreciate

1484
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: the time is always. Lastly, what's upcoming in terms of

1485
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 1: your coverage from the combine? What's next on the Colts schedule,

1486
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: if you will.

1487
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 7: Colt schedule is pretty much kind of just trying to

1488
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 7: chase down some of the stuff that Chris Baler kind

1489
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 7: of hinted at. We'll be writing a little bit more

1490
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 7: of what he said. I do have something I got

1491
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 7: to write up on Cayden Curry from Center Grove from

1492
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 7: today and then the rest of the week for me

1493
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 7: is kind of, like I said, kind of just you know,

1494
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 7: waiting waiting for someone way more important than me to

1495
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 7: talk to me.

1496
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate the time as always, Joel, and we

1497
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: will talk to you soon. All right, Okay, we'll see

1498
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Speaker 1: Joel a Erickson joining us on the program. We come back,

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Speaker 1: we will get back into what some of the things

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Speaker 1: that Chris Ballard said and dude to popular demand, unless

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Speaker 1: you're Gary Greg, We're going to do the elixir and

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Speaker 1: find out what was going on in Indiana last night

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01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: as well last night at the Assembly Hall, Indiana losing

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Speaker 1: to Northwestern, and I don't know, you know, I have

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Speaker 1: such conflicting thoughts on this and emotion because I do

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Speaker 1: think that Darren Debrees is a good coach, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know that how accurately we and I only say

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01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: that because you know, he obviously had done a really

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01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: good job at Drake. At West Virginia, they and I

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Speaker 1: know they missed the tournament last year, but just barely.

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Speaker 1: And there are people in West Virginia that would tell

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Speaker 1: you like, hey, we thought for sure this was the guy.

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01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: Like we thought this was the long term guy. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to judge him right now. Darren Dvrees and Indiana

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Speaker 1: basketball to a great extent, and we're starting to find

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Speaker 1: out why was Darren Devrees Indiana's first choice? No, I

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01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: don't know that he was in their first five choices.

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Speaker 1: And we can sit here and preach and spout till

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Speaker 1: the cows come home that they held onto Mike Woodson

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Speaker 1: too long. I don't think anybody disputes that. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody disputes that. The really interesting and fascinating thing

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Speaker 1: to me about Indiana the Archie Miller era feels like

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01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,799
Speaker 1: you're sophomore year of high school. Everyone remembers your freshman

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01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: year because you're wide eyed and you're coming into this

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01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: new school and you know you're just it's very it's

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01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: almost overwhelming. Everybody remembers their junior year because at least

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01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: where I went to school, that was the big year

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Speaker 1: for prom, but also in the latter part of your

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Speaker 1: junior year, you finally kind of get brought in by

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Speaker 1: the seniors and there's like kind of a passing of

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Speaker 1: the torch and you know, everybody's got their driver's license

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Speaker 1: by then, and you really start to feel like you're

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Speaker 1: emerging as a leader in the school. And then your

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Speaker 1: senior year it goes without saying everyone remembers, but sophomore

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Speaker 1: year is one of those you look back on you

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01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: are like, did what happened?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember much about that? Did we go through that?

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01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: You're just kind of in this holding pattern, And the

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Speaker 1: Archie Miller era kind of feels that way. I think

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Speaker 1: they had Romeo Langford, Okay, outside of that, it was

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Speaker 1: just like what went wrong there? And I think Archie

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01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: Miller just is one that from a basketball standpoint might

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Speaker 1: have been ready for that job, but from the pressure

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Speaker 1: cooker was not. Is that the name York carn era

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Speaker 1: If you're coming ages Racers, that's exactly correct. That is

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01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: exactly correct, and or even the Jim O'Brien era for

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01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: that matter, right, But the the different coaches that have

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Speaker 1: come through and it is very difficult, very difficult to

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Speaker 1: follow a legendary act even a quarter century later. And

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Speaker 1: Mike Davis, I have always felt and I had issue

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01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: with Mike Davis. Don't get me wrong, I mean Mike Davis.

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Speaker 1: You know I've told the story before. I mean when

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: I say issue with Mike Davis, I mean like Mike

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Speaker 1: Davis had to be restrained by assistant coaches from me

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01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: once at a practice and Indiana called and didn't want

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01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: me coming down to cover a game, the whole deal.

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01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: But I always in the end and I probably aired

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Speaker 1: that was probably as much on me, just in terms

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Speaker 1: of an altercation I had with Mike Davis. I saw

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Speaker 1: Mike Davis a couple of years ago in the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Airport and he could not have been kinder. And I

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Speaker 1: have always felt that Indiana owes a tremendous, great debt

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Speaker 1: of gratitude to Mike Davis because he he handled that

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01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: very very well in terms of being put in the

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01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: most difficult situation in the history of college basketball. But

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 1: with that said, he did not handle it the last

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01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: couple of years, and they probably should have made that

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01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: change sooner than they did. Kelvin Samson was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: I from the get go. That's the guy that I

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01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: pined on as much as anybody of getting that program

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Speaker 1: to the very bottom and never letting it come back.

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Speaker 1: But my long winded point here is that Darren Devrees,

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Speaker 1: I think it is very easy for us based on

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01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: precedent because the president with Indiana Basketball says that they

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: have gone with things past the expiration date. And so

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Speaker 1: even though Darren Devrees one year is not the expiration date,

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01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: there is a very short leash because of a PTSD

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: of the way things have gone routinely in the past.

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Speaker 1: He had to put together a roster at the last

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01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: minute because everyone had transferred. That's the era we live

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Speaker 1: in now. He's trying to find some stability. I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar Wilkerson is a really good player. He's a dynamic scorer.

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Speaker 1: And last night they go into a situation where who

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: in the world ever would have thought that Indiana would

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Speaker 1: lose six straight times to Northwestern for crying out loud, Northwestern,

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Speaker 1: but they did and in the end, was Tucker Devrees

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01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: fouled on the three point shot? Yet probably, but that's

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01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 1: kind of a bang bang play. I'll give Indiana credit

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: for not falling victim to you know, just going in

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01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: all told and blaming that on the officiating because they

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01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: put themselves in that position to begin with. They just

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01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: did Lamar Wilkerson very clearly, this would be the second

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Speaker 1: of those two cuts that we have, Eddie. This is

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Wilkerson being very clearly frustrated after the loss. That's

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Speaker 1: just a game.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't have lost this one.

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Speaker 8: The self and flicky losses, as you say, we was

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Speaker 8: the reason why we lost.

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Speaker 1: Kudos to Northwestern, you know.

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Speaker 8: They played it. They played a good game, but there's

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01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 8: no way in here we should have lost that game, man,

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01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 8: and we just being we just being frankly honest.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I commend him there. That's that's actually a little

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Speaker 1: bit of leadership because he's not thrown anybody into the bus.

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Speaker 1: He's saying that's on us. Credit to the opponent. But

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Speaker 1: we lost that game. We should not have let it

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01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: come down that we lost that game. But later when

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Speaker 1: he was asked just what went wrong in general, you

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Speaker 1: could sense the frustration in Lamar Wilkerson.

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Speaker 8: Man, We just we just wasn't hooked up as a team,

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Speaker 8: you know, as a bunch of group of seniors man,

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Speaker 8: we got to be better me personally, I have to

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01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 8: you know, I have to be better at lean his

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01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 8: team stepping up. Just you know, we could have made

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Speaker 8: some players down the stretch that could have helped us.

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's just.

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Speaker 8: One of the ones that hurt, man, because you know,

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01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 8: we this was this, this was this was what our

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01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 8: resume was. You know, just just hurt our resume. So

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Speaker 8: now we have to, you know, try to go get

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01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 8: these next ones and then put our focus towards that.

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01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 8: But ultimately, man, it shouldn't have came down to the riff.

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Speaker 8: We should have put Theriff in a position to make

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Speaker 8: that call. We should have we as we shouldn't have

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01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 8: got comfortable and we just gotta we just gotta do building, man,

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Speaker 8: we just got to do building.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, a lot going on there, including mentioning like

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01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: maybe some discord. Do you want to run this through

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01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 1: the elix already and find out what he had to say?

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01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Are we are we sure that the ELECX is ready?

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01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: Hold on? Hold on Nintendo style right? Did you did

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01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: you blow into the cartridge? That was you? Okay, let

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01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: me come around and check. I think there's some.

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01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 4: More dust particles floating up in the air. I think

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01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 4: we need to clean it off a little bit more.

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01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Let me let me go get a dust rag and

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01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: come back and we'll run.

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01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 4: You need to make sure that your subscription is letting

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01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 4: you have access to the.

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01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: Except it was supposed to be active. But we'll check

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01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: it in the break and come back. So Lamar Wookers

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: said last night, you could tell was frustrated. And I

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01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: think he's a fabulous player, and he is as good,

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01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: he is as offensively gifted as anybody that Indiana has.

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01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: But you know, late in that game, you heard him

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01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: mention there Tucker to and what should have been probably

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01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: a foul. But you can't put your You've got Northwestern there.

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01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: You can't put yourself in that position.

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01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 4: How do you go over nine minutes without a field goal?

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01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 4: It miss eleven shots.

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01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And that's exactly what he's saying here,

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01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: right that drought in the second half. Now we have

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01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 1: the elixir. Now Gary Gregg doesn't like this because apparently

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01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: Mark Patrick used to do this. That's news to me.

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01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: My apologies here. If there's a copyright in fringemane as

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01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: somebody who's now a trademark owner I'm well aware of that.

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01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: You are very sensitive to that very sense among other things.

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01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: But the elixir, which apparently aunt be also got drunk

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: off of and Andy Griffith. Maybe that's where subconsciously the

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01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: name popped up for me. I don't know, but either way,

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01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 1: the elixir we ran it through. We did a test

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01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: pattern in the commercial break. It appears to be working.

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01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Here's how we do this. We take something that an

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01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: athlete says, we run it through the elixir. It is

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01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: the truth serum that tells us what the athlete really

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01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: is feeling. Let's listen to Lamar Wilkerson last night again

1668
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: talking about that long second half drought and the frustration

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01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: of that lost into Northwestern.

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Speaker 8: Man, we wasn't hooked up as a team, you know,

1671
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 8: as a bunch of group of seniors. Man, we gotta

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01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 8: be better me personally, I have to, you know, I

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01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 8: have to be better at lean his team stepping up

1674
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 8: just you know, we could have made some players down

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01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 8: the streets that could have helped us, but it's just

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01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 8: it's just one of the ones that hurt Man, because

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01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 8: you know, we this was this, this was this is

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01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 8: what our resume was. You know, this this hurt our resume.

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01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 8: So now we have to, you know, try to go

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01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 8: get these next ones and then put our focus towards that.

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01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 8: But ultimately, man, it shouldn't have came down to the REFF.

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01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 8: We should have put the ref in the position to

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01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 8: make that call. We should have when we was up.

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 8: We shouldn't have got comfortable. And we just gotta we

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01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 8: just gotta do better, man, we just got to do better.

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01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: Now. The election was a little thrown off apparently by

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01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: the the sniffling in the background. Uh, But with that said,

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01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: it just had a chance to run it. Go ahead

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01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: and hit the button and run that through the elexir

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01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what it has to say. Okay,

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01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

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01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: What am I doing here?

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01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 9: For real?

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01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 2: You think I came here to lose to Northwestern? We

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01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: need to get this figured out cause the bubble may

1697
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 2: have burst.

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01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: Little help here. Oh now, now the elixir, by the way,

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01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: we clearly didn't pay for the caffeinated version. Can we

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01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: get some Java house coffee for the elixir? Maybe some

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01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: of the Wrangler energy? Yeah?

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01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 4: I wonder also if what kind of voice would happen

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01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 4: after too much surfside.

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01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Nothing surf side makes you just sound smooth, Adie. I

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01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: guess you're trying serf side perfectly smooth. Maybe that's what

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01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: the elixir once.

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01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 4: It make you sound like, Jake, if you are smooth already, well,

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01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 4: ultra smooth.

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01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: That's the way it is. And that's the thing about

1710
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: the no carbonation, right, it's ultra smooth that it's own.

1711
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 4: You know what somebody pointed out on the text line, Jake.

1712
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 4: You know when Lamar wilkesonested.

1713
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Talking code, you know what he is speaking in q

1714
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: R QR. Last night Eric went with me to the

1715
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Pacer game. Eric wrote a book about the Pacers, and

1716
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I've got to know him a little bit. Went to

1717
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: the Pacer game with me last night. Eric's son. At

1718
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: one point, Eric actually did a video because he said

1719
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: his son all about the QR, all about the QR.

1720
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: And in addition that Eddie, thank you for mentioning the QR.

1721
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: And for those that are unfamiliar, you know, it used

1722
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 1: to be the kids would say six to seven, right,

1723
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: that was the thing. Six seven.

1724
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 4: That's totally till the thing Bowen putting it to bed

1725
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 4: because he's trying to make.

1726
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: It QR thing is totally twenty twenty five, right, completely

1727
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.

1728
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 4: Well yeah, QR then yeah, totally totally twenty twenty five.

1729
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 4: J yeah, huh so last.

1730
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: Year, No, No, the seven the six to seventh thing

1731
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: is QR is minus twenty twenty six. So that's what

1732
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: I said, you said twenty twenty five. I said the

1733
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: six seven is totally twenty twenty that that's a Freudian slip.

1734
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: Then the six' seven is twenty twenty. Five it's THE

1735
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: qr that's twenty twenty. Six. Okay just for, example here

1736
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: is a listener Text jacob In cancun SPREADING qr like

1737
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: crazy here. Listening now SEE. Qr if you speak in

1738
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: code to your friends and they say are you speaking

1739
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: in code? There and you, say, no not, code because

1740
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: when you go to a restaurant and they, say our

1741
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: menus are, online now you need to what do you

1742
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: need to scan THE qr? Code so if you're speaking

1743
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: in code to your, friends you just SAY qr and

1744
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: they know that that means you're speaking in. Code and

1745
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,759
Speaker 1: kids love, This, eddie kids love, it and Listen, Gary

1746
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: greg can get back to me if you'd like on

1747
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: this that we didn't steal that From Mark. Patrick that's

1748
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent authentically. Real THE. Qr THE qr is

1749
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 1: the code that is sweeping the, nation and kids love.

1750
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: It they absolutely love. It Rick carlisle had some interesting

1751
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: comments about THE. Nba he said those yesterday on The Morning.

1752
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Show as a matter of, fact we could probably replay

1753
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: those for you because THE nba has responded to, that

1754
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: and that also is. INTERESTING i know that this was

1755
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit yesterday, afternoon but it was

1756
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: after we were, on and then you had the game

1757
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: last night With, philadelphia and there are Still i'm going

1758
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: to go back. TO i do find it interesting if

1759
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: The pacers are, tanking if The pacers are blatantly disregarding

1760
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: the game by intentionally throwing games or whatever it may,

1761
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 1: be then why are there like seventeen thousand people there every,

1762
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: night even if you bought the tickets ahead of time

1763
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: on a, discount because everyone knows the. Situation to, me

1764
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: tanking is about if you're looking at it and you,

1765
01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: say we're just going to rest everyone because we don't

1766
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,759
Speaker 1: want to be a nine. Seed we're gonna rest, everybody

1767
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: and that's that the. Situation mother nature got the ball

1768
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: rolling on it and then eventually The pacers are, Like,

1769
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 1: okay now we know where things are and that makes

1770
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: sense to. Me and you Heard Rick carlyle yesterday on

1771
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: The Morning show say that The pacers when they were

1772
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: fined one hundred thousand dollars for not Playing Aaron neiesmith

1773
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: notably Against utah After Aaron nesmith had gotten hurt Against New,

1774
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: york that fine was levied After Rick carlyle says that

1775
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: THE nba asked him to Play nate Ni smith and

1776
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: even consider like giving him some sort of a shot

1777
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,600
Speaker 1: or medicating him to make him eligible or healthy enough to.

1778
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: Play and we'll replay for you What Rick carlyle had

1779
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: to say and then read you what THE nba said

1780
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: back next y two o'clock hour underway In. Indianapolis for that,

1781
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 1: matter that matter of the two o'clock hour is underway

1782
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: everywhere in The eastern time. Zone good afternoon to. You

1783
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: my name Is Jake Quarry Eddie garrison the other voice

1784
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: you hear on this. Program good, Afternoon, jake how are.

1785
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: You i'm, well thank. You how's Your wednesday so? FAR

1786
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: i can't. Complain it doesn't do any good, anyway, right

1787
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: BUT i can't complain but from a sports, standpoint there

1788
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: is if you were going to be a, complainer there's

1789
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: plenty to complain. About i'm doing. Well thanks for. Asking

1790
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: we will get to THE i. DID I, no that's

1791
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 1: WHY i said. That, okay we'll get To you can

1792
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: see who's the who cares about who? Here all, Right

1793
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: i'm a very caring guy. Obviously now tell me that a. Lot,

1794
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: NO i get that a. Lot just like how your

1795
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 1: humility is your number one trait if you were to,

1796
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: list like on the left, column all the things about

1797
01:35:54,520 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: me that are, great, handsome, youthful, witty, cut, athletic trampoline,

1798
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: hamstrings that's, right very tight hamstrings literally sometimes at my,

1799
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 1: gym there's actually thank you for mentioning. That at my,

1800
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: gym they have a wide array of different things you can.

1801
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: Do you can rock, climb you can do you, know

1802
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 1: pilates type. Stuff they've Got saunner, rooms the whole. Deal,

1803
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Right spin classes one of the things that they're trying to.

1804
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: Do and this is a newer, thing so you may

1805
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: not be aware of, it, right but it's mostly known

1806
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: as the ns Y tl excuse, me The North Side

1807
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: Youth Tumbling. League, okay so it's a number of young,

1808
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: children some little, people but mostly young children that are

1809
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: doing they're learning tumbling and gymnastics and that kind of.

1810
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Thing and the other, day true, STORY i was at

1811
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: my gym and they had a trampoline. Malfunction, ah and

1812
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: so THEY i was there and the Trainer bob that stretches,

1813
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: me that's always fascinated with the tightness of my, hamstrings

1814
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: and he, said, Oh, jake can you just lay on

1815
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: this table for about thirty? Minutes SO i laid there

1816
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: and then just, buying buying like one after the, other

1817
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: little kids builing and they could jump off of my

1818
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 1: hamstrings and do you, know air twirls and things like.

1819
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: That it was so what you're saying is we just.

1820
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 4: There you know what you're saying, Is, jake is we

1821
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 4: just found a new activity that we can add to

1822
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 4: the second golf, outing The Fan invitational pred By Franciscan.

1823
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: Health that is, correct and the Early bird special is out,

1824
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: there by the. Way your chance to come out and

1825
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: support a great cause helping Out Franciscan health and The

1826
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: Franciscan Health. Foundation all of us from the station will

1827
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: be there On april the, thirtieth nine o'clock in the

1828
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: morning check. In it was. Awesome last year when we did,

1829
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: this it was a great. Event and not only was

1830
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: it a great, event but you, Know mo From ohio

1831
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 1: came over for. IT i, mean there was a lot

1832
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: of success with. It but this year we wanted to

1833
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: make sure to do it where you at the beginning

1834
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: of the, season because you, know people have a lot

1835
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: of golf outings and a lot going on towards the

1836
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: end of the year and when kids are getting back in.

1837
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: School so Eighteen holes Of Golf april Thirtieth Early Bird

1838
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: special right now on the station website one oh seven

1839
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 1: five thefan dot com twenty five dollars off per person

1840
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: or one hundred dollars off per foursome right now with

1841
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 1: signing up for.

1842
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 4: IT i can't think of a better way to kick,

1843
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 4: off you, know the month Of. May get to hang

1844
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 4: out with you on a golf course and get to

1845
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 4: ask you questions, about you, know how The IndyCar season's,

1846
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 4: going kind of your thoughts going into the big month

1847
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 4: and before you start doing beyond the bricks that.

1848
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: Right around the, time just a couple of weeks before

1849
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: we'll find out whether not the pacers are going to hold, on,

1850
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: well hold on to their. Pick, yeah assuming that they're

1851
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: still in the same. Situation. Yeah But Rick carlisle, yesterday

1852
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: let's get to. This when he was on with the

1853
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: guys in the, Morning Rick carlisle was very open about

1854
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 1: his frustration and he kind of double down on this

1855
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: last night after the game With. Philadelphia but this is

1856
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: what got the ball rolling because THE nba was kind

1857
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 1: of he checkmated them into having to. Respond Rick carlisle

1858
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: yesterday on The Fan Morning show when talking about the

1859
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 1: situation of The pacers being fined earlier this month one

1860
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for THE nba allegation of tanking Against.

1861
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 9: Utah, YEAH i you, KNOW i put out a statement about.

1862
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 5: IT i DIDN'T i didn't agree with.

1863
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 8: It it was there was a there was.

1864
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 9: A league lawyer that was doing the interview that kind

1865
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 9: of unilaterally decided That aaron Need, smith who had been

1866
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 9: injured the night before and couldn't hold the, ball should

1867
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 9: have played in the, game which just seems. Ridiculous and

1868
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 9: during the interview, PROCESS.

1869
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 5: I was not on, it BUT i BUT i heard.

1870
01:39:54,840 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 9: Details we asked them if they or talk to the,

1871
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 9: doctors our doctors about. It because it's something that was

1872
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 9: documented by our doctors and. Trainers, uh they said, no

1873
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 9: they didn't need. To they talked to their doctors who

1874
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 9: did not Examine Aarony, smith and we asked them if

1875
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 9: they wanted to talk to the, kid and they said,

1876
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 9: no they didn't need.

1877
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 5: To so this was this was.

1878
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 9: Shocking this was shocking to. Me and during the, interview

1879
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 9: they also asked if we considered dedicating him to play

1880
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 9: in a game when we were thirty games under five,

1881
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 9: Hundred SO i WAS i was very, surprised you, know

1882
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 9: obviously didn't agree with. It this is really the first

1883
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 9: Time i've gone into any detail about. It but that

1884
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 9: was that was the, deal and so, yeah that was, it.

1885
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Okay THE nba responded yesterday with the following. Statement this

1886
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: was initially reported By Scott. Agnes Tony east as well

1887
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 1: had this. Quote Coach carlyle's description of the process that

1888
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: went into the decision to find The Indiana pacers is.

1889
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 1: Inaccurate an independent physition led the medical. Review in, addition

1890
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: The pacers general manager and the team's senior vice President

1891
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Sports medicine And performance were interviewed as part of the.

1892
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 1: Process The pacers confirmed that it had provided all of

1893
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: the information requested by the, league and the team reported

1894
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: that an interview with Coach carlile or a team physician wasn't.

1895
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: Necessary end. Quote that does not clarify whether or not

1896
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 1: they spoke directly to or Evaluated Aaron. Nesmith but either,

1897
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 1: way WHAT i know is, this And i'm going to

1898
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: repeat WHAT i said. Yesterday the reality, is are The

1899
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Indiana pacers? Tanking are The Indiana pacers intentionally trying to lose?

1900
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: GAMES i don't believe. That are The Indiana pacers taking

1901
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 1: advantage of a unique season and situation to do a

1902
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: complete inventory of their roster and take advantage of playing

1903
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: players off the depth of their roster that normally would

1904
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: not play in games if it is a game that

1905
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: is listed as one That indiana is putting forth their

1906
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: maximum effort to. Win, yes did The pacers set out

1907
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year and, say you know,

1908
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 1: what we were two quarters away from AN nba title

1909
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: and we got that, close and you know, what with

1910
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: all our chips In And i'm saying this, hypothetically If

1911
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: Tyre's halliburton had never gotten, hurt If halliburton had not

1912
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: gotten hurt and The pacers had lost and come that

1913
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: close to winning AN nba title and fallen. Short with

1914
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: The pacers have said at the beginning of the, year

1915
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna. Do we could use some wing.

1916
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Help we need a TWO d player with length above

1917
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 1: and Beyond Benedict matherin's skill, set and we see, three

1918
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,679
Speaker 1: if not four of them in this year's. Draft, guys

1919
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna. Do we're gonna lose. Games we're

1920
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna go out and we're gonna put forth half. Effort

1921
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna use weird. Lineups we're gonna bench players because

1922
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 1: they need three days, off and load management and everything.

1923
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Else we're gonna do all of. That that would be.

1924
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 1: Tanking it's not what they. Did they got two quarters

1925
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: from winning THE Nba championship And Tyres haliburton got. Hurt

1926
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: and then even with, that you look at it and, say,

1927
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: well if they can move Nim harden to the, point you,

1928
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 1: know have him run specifically the, point and maybe move,

1929
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: math they're an over to your full time starter, position

1930
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 1: whatever it might. Be we can still win forty two

1931
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 1: games and continue to build off of the playoff experience

1932
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: and get everybody excited and then come back and push all.

1933
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: In But Miles turner surprised them and. Left and, yes

1934
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: he surprised them and. Left was he justified in his? Decision,

1935
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: maybe but he surprised them and, Left so then it was.

1936
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay this year is going to be about the development

1937
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: Of Minutnick, madrin who got, hurt not, once but, twice legitimately. Hurt,

1938
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: okay that's. Okay we'll use minutes For Obi toppin who was,

1939
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: hurt has a screw in his. Foot, okay that's. Okay

1940
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 1: then we'll use Nim hard more in the backcourt WITH tj.

1941
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 1: McConnell Nim hard was, hurt, well then we'll Work Nie

1942
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: smith In smith initially was. Hurt these were legitimate injuries

1943
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: to begin the. Year so The pacers got to a

1944
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: point in the. Season we're at no fault of, theirs

1945
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: not because they were, tanking because of the inability to

1946
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 1: be able to consistently put out a. Lineup The pacers lost.

1947
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: Games that then put them in position where you got

1948
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,480
Speaker 1: to the point where you're, like now it is beyond

1949
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: repair because we're not going to make the. Playoffs and so,

1950
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: yes now we are in a situation where we can

1951
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 1: be much more conservative in our approach and bringing players,

1952
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: back we can be much more analytical in terms of

1953
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 1: who we're putting out on the. Floor and so they

1954
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: go into a game now where you look at an

1955
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Ne smith and if he's, hurt you say to,

1956
01:45:54,760 --> 01:46:02,799
Speaker 1: yourself you know What we'll Play Ethan, thompson Pay Tailan.

1957
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 1: Peter we'll play guys that normally would never have gotten

1958
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 1: opportunity this. Year but why not go ahead and give

1959
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: them opportunity and chance to develop and let us see

1960
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: who they are and what they. Are and if you

1961
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: want to call that, TANKING i call it more futuristically.

1962
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: Strategic And i'm not here to stand here and say

1963
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: this BECAUSE i have a good relationship with The pacers

1964
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: or BECAUSE i was a ball boy in nineteen eighty

1965
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: eight for The. Pacers i'm saying it one hundred percent

1966
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: objectively by saying the frustration that fans and The National

1967
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 1: Basketball association have is the fact that it appears as

1968
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: though THE nba selected two franchises that have the least

1969
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 1: national oomph to push back on THE. Nba if THE

1970
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: nba had fined The lakers For lebron's load management or

1971
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: The warriors For Steph curry's load, management that would resonate

1972
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: From savannah To, spokane From, Bangor maine To, Phoenix. Arizona

1973
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: because those are national brands and national, names and that's

1974
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: their national calling. Card but if THE nba was wanting

1975
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 1: to set the, precedent make the, example send the message

1976
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: that they are a league of, morals scruples and fair

1977
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 1: and balance across the. Board what better way to do

1978
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: that than to be able to then go back to

1979
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: some of their partners and, say, see we take this

1980
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: seriously because we Find indiana And utah the two franchises

1981
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 1: that you can. Win its convenient let people know that

1982
01:47:56,479 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: you address the, situation but do so without harming a

1983
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,759
Speaker 1: lot of your national fan base that has emotional invested.

1984
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 1: Interest for the most, part if you're a fan of

1985
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: The pacers or a fan of The, jazz you are

1986
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: From indiana or have a connection to the, state and

1987
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: the same is true For. Utah for THE nba to

1988
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: come out with that, lame sorry, explanation what that means

1989
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: is That Rick, carlyle who more often than not is

1990
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: playing chess when other people are playing. Checkers if you

1991
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: watch a game and you watch the Way Rick carlile

1992
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: stands and observes the game while it's. Unfolding he is

1993
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: seeing it from an analytics standpoint that OTHERWISE i think

1994
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches don't. See does he make, mistakes,

1995
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: sure of course he went a long time without went

1996
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 1: in a playoff. Series ain't, Perfect but in this case

1997
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: he basically got out in front of it and just

1998
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 1: he said the quiet part out. Loud THE nba wanted

1999
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 1: us to basically give us a guy a shot at

2000
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 1: cortizone or something along those. Lines i'm not putting direct

2001
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 1: words into, it but when he says they asked us

2002
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 1: to medic the, player they wanted them to do something

2003
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: to doctor to make Aaron Ne smith physically eligible to, play,

2004
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 1: okay and they were, saying, no that's not the. Case

2005
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 1: so in this, situation this to me very clearly is

2006
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,759
Speaker 1: THE nba trying to make an example of The pacers

2007
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 1: and the pacers standing up for themselves and, saying go

2008
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 1: take it somewhere. Else But i'll bet you that's the

2009
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: last time they find The. Pacers i'll bet it. Is

2010
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: and why are you still Getting why are you still

2011
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: getting at the Field house seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty thousand

2012
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: people per. Night you're getting that because you have a

2013
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: fan base that understands the fact that it is situational

2014
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: as to why the pacers are where they, Are are

2015
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: they going to benefit from? It and now do they

2016
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: have an invested interest in making sure that they land

2017
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 1: in the top? Four you bet your bottom line they,

2018
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Do you absolutely bet. It but they waited until the

2019
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: circumstance put them, there as opposed to themselves saying we're

2020
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: just gonna go out and do nothing but start ten

2021
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: days for two and a half months to get ourselves.

2022
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 1: There AND i thought it was a brilliant checkmate move

2023
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: By Rick, carlile and it forced THE nba to have

2024
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: to make some sort of an announcement and they made

2025
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: one that makes it zero.

2026
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 4: Sense the QUESTION i have is why? Now, like why

2027
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:30,440
Speaker 4: would you share all those details? Now LIKE i understand

2028
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 4: AND i have a belief That Rick carlisle has a,

2029
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 4: solid if not respectable relationship With Adam, silver the commission

2030
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 4: of THE, Nba so, like.

2031
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 1: Why, now why would you make that comment?

2032
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 4: Now and the other thing that stands out to, Me

2033
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 4: jake and the NBA's response to this is that they

2034
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 4: had an independent physition lead the medical. Review if that

2035
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 4: said independent physition is not talking With Rick, carlisle is

2036
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 4: not talking with the head athletic trainer or an athletic

2037
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 4: trainer or the, player how the heck can he determine

2038
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 4: as an independent medical in a medical review that a

2039
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 4: player can or can't play.

2040
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: Right and in addition to, that the whole the thing

2041
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: that jumps sour at, me and they also don't deny

2042
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: the medicated. Part that's the part that to me is

2043
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: a really bad look for THE. Nba that's a really

2044
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: bad look for THE. Nba that looks like, basically what

2045
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: you're saying is give the horse a smelling salt and

2046
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: send him back. Out that's how that. Looks and The

2047
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: i'm going to go back to what AND i will

2048
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 1: stand on this mountaintop screaming it from the, mountaintops convinced

2049
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: That i'm correct in this until someone says to me.

2050
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 1: Otherwise and that simply. Is and some of, this in

2051
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: the vernacular of it and the specification of it and

2052
01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: the categorization of it is beyond my intellectual. Capability but

2053
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 1: THE nba During All Star week had some sort of

2054
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 1: a behind closed doors publicly, known but the material of

2055
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: which was behind closed doors like governor's meeting And i'm

2056
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 1: using governors and air, quotes but a meeting with partnerships

2057
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: about the state of The, union if you, will and

2058
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 1: who is involved in that CEOs of the sports gambling

2059
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: apps that have become a major financial lifeline to THE

2060
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 1: nba and to sports in. General and to be, fair

2061
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: to be, fair The i'm not saying that the gambling

2062
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 1: apps are all. Evil that is a free will choice

2063
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 1: for adults in The United states to be able to

2064
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 1: accentuate their, understanding their, appreciation or their entertainment of. Games

2065
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 1: and are there some folks that have an addiction to,

2066
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: that a challenge to, that or problems that are created

2067
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: because of those. Apps, absolutely, Okay BUT i do know

2068
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: that the gambling apps financially back and assist the like

2069
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 1: The Gambling commission in the state Of indiana for to

2070
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: help those that have an. Addiction so it's not like

2071
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 1: they're just the evil. Empire i'm not saying. That but

2072
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,719
Speaker 1: What i'm saying is they pay a lot of money

2073
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 1: and now connected partnership to THE nba broadcast partnerships of

2074
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: THE nba In arena sponsorships of THE, Nba AND i

2075
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: again will repeat What i've said for a week, straight

2076
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 1: and that is those apps pay so much money that

2077
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: they want to absolutely make certain that their consumer feels

2078
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 1: confident that as a consumer they are consuming or partaking

2079
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 1: in something that is in fact. Legitimate and you can

2080
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 1: bet your hind rear that's. Redundant you can bet your

2081
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: backside that THE nba and its apps probably at the

2082
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: end of the year when a team Like utah or

2083
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 1: a year. Ago i'm trying to think of a year,

2084
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 1: ago you, Know Oklahoma city a couple of years, ago

2085
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 1: when they were just stockpiling draft picks And Oklahoma city

2086
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: was essentially. Tanking i'll bet you one hundred bucks see

2087
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 1: WHAT i did. There that the wagering on those teams

2088
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 1: dipped dramatically In, March april And may versus what it

2089
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 1: was In, October, November, december because people were, Like i'm

2090
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: not going to wager on that game BECAUSE i have

2091
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: no idea if that team's trying to. Win so THE

2092
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: nba wants to make it very clear to, you the,

2093
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 1: consumer that, yes in, fact go ahead and get on

2094
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 1: that app and put down your five dollars, wager put

2095
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: down your, parlay put down your, teaser because everything that

2096
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: you wager is definitely on the up and. Up and

2097
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 1: it is the apps that put that pressure on THE,

2098
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: nba and THE nba had to. Respond this is just my.

2099
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 1: Opinion i'm not saying it. Factually that's my. Opinion my

2100
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 1: perception is that's exactly what.

2101
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 4: Happened and what makes it even, Worse, chick in my

2102
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 4: opinion is that you just had this Whole Chauncey billups

2103
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 4: thing earlier this, season and where'd that? Go, yeah exactly

2104
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 4: where'd that?

2105
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: GO i mean that WAS i agree with. You THE

2106
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: nba knew going into. It their rabbit ears were up

2107
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: and large because of what happened With Chauncey billups and

2108
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: the away From basketball situation where he was, indicted and

2109
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: then you also had individual players on parlay scandals taking.

2110
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 1: Place so it became so THE nba had to get

2111
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: out in front of this hornet's nest basically and provide

2112
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: mesh wiring to everybody to, say, look so just so

2113
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: you don't get, stung we're making sure that we're protecting

2114
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: all of.

2115
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 4: This Did Johntay porter getting banned for gambling on games

2116
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 4: right and over unders that Crazy Terry rosier connected to

2117
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 4: betting on player.

2118
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: PROPS i forget the other.

2119
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 4: Guy's name that was With lebron In cleveland that had a,

2120
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 4: big big role in this as, well who had an

2121
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 4: idea about a game On lebron playing before it was

2122
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 4: announced that he wasn't going to.

2123
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Play so he advised.

2124
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 4: People to take, hey take The bucks on the spread

2125
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 4: tonight because that's who The lakers were playing at the

2126
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 4: time And lebron wasn't gonna.

2127
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 1: Play this gives THE nba by coming out with those.

2128
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 1: Fines it gives THE nba a counterpoint when people, say,

2129
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 1: like oh, man THE, NBA i can't get into, that

2130
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: it's all the league's all. Rigged the league's all, Rigged

2131
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: and now THE nba can, SAY i know it's. Not

2132
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 1: Chris ballard spoke earlier. Today not only did he speak

2133
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 1: yesterday at The, combine he spoke earlier today on The

2134
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 1: Fan Morning, show and we will get to some of

2135
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: the comments that he had regarding The, colts including one

2136
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: THAT i thought was very telling about leadership or lack.

2137
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 1: Thereof we'll play it for you. Next what you know

2138
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: WHAT i think we need to play more of on this.

2139
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 1: Program what's? That? Now what is? This you're you're firing up, HERE.

2140
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 10: U?

2141
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 1: Rasputin this is this? Is do you enjoy? This this

2142
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 1: is kind of? Fun? RIGHT i feel Like i'm At

2143
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 1: studio fifty. FOUR i don't know what about the vines?

2144
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: Heiss we haven't played that in a, while have? We

2145
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: wasn't that our friend The german techno star when The

2146
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: colts went To germany spat three thousand or? Whatever can

2147
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 1: we play that that that we're getting in the mood for,

2148
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: that aren't? WE i, mean we're it's almost, uh you,

2149
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Know speedo, season? Right shin? Vaff do we happen to

2150
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,919
Speaker 1: have that? Song it was shin vaf two? Thousand, yeah

2151
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: that guy that fellow does that song about the vine,

2152
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: sweiz which Is german for. Sweat isn't that what it?

2153
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 1: Was it was just a song about. Sweat here's WHY

2154
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: i mentioned, This, eddie because here we are, collectively this

2155
01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: generation gap between us right and right, here and yet

2156
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 1: your your taste in music and pop culture and then,

2157
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 1: mine it all comes together right here in the understanding

2158
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: and the bond of this horrific. Sound, again it sounds

2159
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 1: a little bit like The Star WARS. Canteena, right this

2160
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 1: sounds LIKE r TWO d two, porn to be honest with,

2161
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 1: You but then does it the fella all of a

2162
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 1: sudden just say Something, okay, yeah, yeah totally.

2163
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 4: YEAH i feel bad for the you, too BECAUSE i

2164
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 4: can't they don't get to hear.

2165
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 1: This, WELL i don't know that i'd feel bad for

2166
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: them at all on. That so last Night i'm at

2167
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 1: The pacer game and a guy taps me on the

2168
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 1: shoulder sitting behind, Me, JAKE i have a. Question SO

2169
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 1: i turned around, yep and he, says how many movies

2170
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 1: are you up to now That eddie needs to? Watch

2171
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: and then he, SAID i hear a lot of times

2172
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 1: when you'll reference, something AND i can tell that you

2173
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 1: assume That eddie or the younger guys know what you're talking,

2174
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: about and those of us that are also old his

2175
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 1: words can feel your. PAIN i, said, well no.

2176
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 4: Pain, now how does it make you feel that somebody

2177
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 4: bothered you in the middle of a game to ask

2178
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 4: you a question about?

2179
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 1: Me it means they listen to the, Show so it

2180
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 1: was cool with, it, Right. Yeah but the Point i'm

2181
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: getting at flippancy aside is this in that. Situation i'm

2182
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: not going to say it's about, leadership, right but if

2183
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 1: there are areas where you, know sometimes when you're in

2184
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: a situation and you're the older of the, two you're

2185
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 1: you're the, veteran you try to point things. Out, Now,

2186
01:59:55,040 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 1: eddie first, off you are not my. Subservience so it's

2187
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 1: not as though it's my. Role i'm not your, boss,

2188
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: right but on this, Program i'm the older of the

2189
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: two of, us and so it's not my desire per.

2190
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 1: Se AND i think you'll back me up on. This

2191
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: it's not LIKE i call you once a week and

2192
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 1: say here's what you need to work, on or here's

2193
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 1: what we need to do, differently or here's WHAT i

2194
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 1: need to, do you know.

2195
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 4: Whatever, right at least to Watch Fast time as In Richmond.

2196
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:27,000
Speaker 4: High you told me about THAT.

2197
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: I, did and that was that paid off for? You it? Did?

2198
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah what was the other one that we learned the

2199
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 4: other night THAT i haven't, watched or you learned about Sixteen? Candles,

2200
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 4: no we were on the phone talking about it and they're, like, oh, dude.

2201
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 1: You'll love that more than Oh revenge of The. Nerds,

2202
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah revenge of The. Nerds Because lewis passed. Away lewis

2203
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 1: passed away unfortunately self. Inflicted it appears the actor that

2204
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Played lewis On revenge of The nerds two days. Ago great.

2205
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 1: Movie but What i'm getting at is, this when it

2206
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 1: comes to roles of leadership and exhibiting leadership or presenting,

2207
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: leadership there are a couple of ways to do. It

2208
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 1: and one is to just, say, hey, listen you Know

2209
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: i've been here, before so you, know here's what you

2210
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 1: need to, do or here's what worked for, me and

2211
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 1: so therefore maybe you can learn or in my, CASE i,

2212
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: mean there are plenty of, Areas eddie WHERE i could,

2213
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 1: SAY i hope you can learn from, this BECAUSE i

2214
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:30,879
Speaker 1: mishandled it. THERE i don't think about things in areas

2215
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 1: WHERE i did things the right. WAY i think more

2216
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 1: often about areas WHERE i fell short of my own

2217
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: expectation or the expectation that was placed upon, me and

2218
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 1: so therefore you're, like you, know maybe you can learn from.

2219
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 1: That but there are ways to, lead and in sports

2220
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:48,640
Speaker 1: there are ways to lead if you were in a locker.

2221
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:51,280
Speaker 1: Room AND i mentioned this, EARLIER i think the biggest

2222
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 1: thing that has hurt The, colts the biggest thing that

2223
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:59,000
Speaker 1: has hurt The cults over the last ten years is

2224
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 1: that they have failed to put proper leaders in leadership.

2225
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 1: Position you, Know Jeff george once said to me one

2226
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 1: of the most like clairvoyant moments of an epiphany that

2227
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 1: has been shared to me from an athlete, Standpoint Jeff.

2228
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 1: George AND i think he might have even said it

2229
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 1: on this radio, Show But Jeff george told me that

2230
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: one of the hardest things for him was when he

2231
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 1: was a rookie in THE. Nfl it was very hard

2232
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 1: for him because at the quarterback, position you've always been

2233
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 1: in a position to. Lead he was a consensus number

2234
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 1: one recruit in high school out Of Warren central and

2235
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 1: a two time state. Champion then he went To purdue

2236
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 1: where he had to play immediately as a, freshman but

2237
02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 1: then transferred To illinois and by, then by the time

2238
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:58,879
Speaker 1: he got on the, field was a more veteran. Player

2239
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 1: and THEN i was a leader For illinois that went

2240
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 1: to you, know in won big time games for, them

2241
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 1: and then was the number one draft pick by The.

2242
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:08,760
Speaker 1: Colts but one of the things that he said that

2243
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 1: he was very uncomfortable with that was a disadvantage Was he's, like,

2244
02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 1: LOOK i was twenty, one twenty two years old as the,

2245
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: quarterback And i'm looking in the huddle at guys that

2246
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 1: have been in the league for ten? Years what AM

2247
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:23,800
Speaker 1: i going to say to? Them how seriously are they

2248
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 1: going to take? Me Anthony richardson is a young quarterback

2249
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 1: that has never really been in that. Situation to begin,

2250
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 1: with he was not like some huge multi state champion

2251
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 1: recruit in high school and at The university Of. Florida

2252
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: he was not some Consensus heisman. Contender he was in

2253
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,320
Speaker 1: the mix and in the, conversation partially just based on

2254
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 1: where he. Played but he comes into the situation here

2255
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 1: where he's learning how to be a, professional let alone

2256
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 1: having to be a. Leader and if you look at

2257
02:03:57,320 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: the positions where leadership is most important in THE, nfl it's,

2258
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:08,040
Speaker 1: quarterback probably middle, linebacker and then just based on whoever

2259
02:04:08,160 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 1: is the most tenured and for The colts for the last,

2260
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 1: decade the positions where they've had their best players have been,

2261
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 1: guard running, back at. Quarterback they've not had a natural

2262
02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 1: leader per se in the fact that yes they Had Philip,

2263
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 1: rivers yes they Had Joe, Flacco yes they Had Gardner,

2264
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: minshew but all of them were passerbys in the, night

2265
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 1: and everyone on the roster knew That DeForest buckner is

2266
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 1: a great, player AND i think literally is a legit man's,

2267
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 1: leader no, Question but from an injury, standpoint he's been

2268
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,879
Speaker 1: away from the team in large chunks for the majority

2269
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 1: of years that he's been. Here Insire franklin at the

2270
02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:58,040
Speaker 1: linebacker position is a leader based on the fact that

2271
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 1: he's the eyes and ears and quarterback of the. Defense,

2272
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: However Zire FRANKLIN i think real AND i Like Zire

2273
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: franklin a great, deal BUT i Think Zire franklin got

2274
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 1: himself in a pickle when when The colts were not

2275
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 1: having a great, year but he statistically, was he sought

2276
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:22,400
Speaker 1: the opportunity and the spotlight that was on him because

2277
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 1: of the great year The colts were. Having Zire franklin

2278
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 1: utilized that platform and those eyeballs to Promote Zire. Franklin

2279
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: and when you have a roster and a team that

2280
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 1: is scratching and clawing their way to a subpart disappointing

2281
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 1: non playoff, season and you're utilizing the last ten percent

2282
02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 1: of that year to go on your podcast and on

2283
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 1: your social media and openly campaign towards getting yourself to

2284
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 1: A Pro. Bowl it's a bad look because leadership comes

2285
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:54,400
Speaker 1: in a couple different. Ways it comes in ways of

2286
02:05:54,480 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: either just leading by the. Example it comes in ways

2287
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 1: of being the vocal guy that speaks up when others,

2288
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 1: don't or being willing to fall on the sword that others,

2289
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 1: aren't or it comes in the way strictly of going

2290
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 1: about your business every day and making sure that people

2291
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,280
Speaker 1: are aware of the fact that you're doing what is

2292
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 1: best for the common. Goal and While i'm not Saying

2293
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 1: Zire franklin doesn't do, that coming out on the podcast

2294
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,760
Speaker 1: and talking about The Pro bowl demerits what work may

2295
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: have been done. Otherwise so this, morning When Chris ballard

2296
02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 1: came on on The Morning, show he was asked the,

2297
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:35,200
Speaker 1: question when it comes to this team that has continuously

2298
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: fallen short for basically a decade over the time of

2299
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 1: The ballard, tenure one thing that has been, consistent the

2300
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,800
Speaker 1: only consistent in the tenure Of Chris ballard has been.

2301
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 1: Inconsistency so he was asked this, Morning Chris, ballard general

2302
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 1: manager of The, colts question for you is, this is

2303
02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 1: this a locker room and a team that has a

2304
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 1: problem with? Leadership that's a fair.

2305
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 3: Question shane AND i have actually we've had discussions about

2306
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 3: that because we have REALLY i, mean look y'all go

2307
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 3: through a locker.

2308
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:10,520
Speaker 2: Room we have really good. Dudes they, care.

2309
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 3: They want to, Win they do everything they can in

2310
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 3: their power to do the right. Things we we have

2311
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 3: to make sure that they're GETTING i, mean you, know,

2312
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 3: leaders you, know we got to help them lead, sometimes

2313
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,920
Speaker 3: if that makes. SENSE i, mean we all have growth to,

2314
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 3: do even. ALL i MEAN i have growth to do

2315
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 3: in that, area and they, do and we need to.

2316
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 2: Do we need to help them grow.

2317
02:07:36,200 --> 02:07:39,920
Speaker 3: Along the way too of things that we want done

2318
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:43,720
Speaker 3: to make sure that that is getting spread through the locker.

2319
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 3: ROOM i Think shane does a really good job, now

2320
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:48,320
Speaker 3: but you, know just at this at this, time you,

2321
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 3: know because of the, results it hadn't been what we.

2322
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,720
Speaker 3: Wanted so we've got to make sure that we're leading

2323
02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:55,879
Speaker 3: them in the right. Direction to you Expect Zia franklin.

2324
02:07:55,920 --> 02:08:00,200
Speaker 3: Back we'll see LOVES i. HEIR i think like my

2325
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 3: relationship with. Him he's very honest and he's very strong.

2326
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 3: Willed darius was very Similar, leonard and usually good players

2327
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 3: are like.

2328
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 2: That so we'll see how it plays. Out i'm a.

2329
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 3: When Football i'll tell you, this when football is, Over

2330
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 3: Zaire franklin is going to be a star and whatever

2331
02:08:25,960 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 3: he decides to do in. Life he is, smart he

2332
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 3: is extremely mentally. Tough he's everything you want in a

2333
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:40,120
Speaker 3: in a in a player in terms of. Makeup so

2334
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 3: what was.

2335
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:41,160
Speaker 2: You a fan of the?

2336
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:46,840
Speaker 3: Podcast needless to, Say zaire AND i have had some

2337
02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 3: some some discussions about the. Podcast, look here's WHAT i do.

2338
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 3: LIKE i love that he's passionate about what could be

2339
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:53,760
Speaker 3: next in.

2340
02:08:53,800 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 1: Life so that to me sounds like essentially What ballor

2341
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 1: is saying is That Zire, franklin some of the great

2342
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:09,440
Speaker 1: things that make him a very good player little undersized

2343
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 1: some of, that some of his numbers maybe are situational

2344
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,560
Speaker 1: or schematic because things are kind of funneled his. Way

2345
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:23,879
Speaker 1: but also a great, competitor which can be of benefit

2346
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 1: on the field and at times can be a challenge

2347
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 1: to deal with off the. Field AND i think he

2348
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:32,240
Speaker 1: is a nice, Dude Zire. Franklin i've met him a few,

2349
02:09:32,240 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 1: times AND i certainly know of some of the philanthropic

2350
02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 1: things he. DOES i, MEAN i think a good. Dude

2351
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: but that was interesting to me because when When kevin,

2352
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 1: said you, know do you think he'll be, back and he,

2353
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 1: says you, know we'll. See he also said we'll see

2354
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 1: On Anthony richardson and you, know we'll see on that

2355
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 1: right where that.

2356
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:57,280
Speaker 4: Goes, Yeah BUT i Thought jake in The Morning show,

2357
02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:00,120
Speaker 4: interview we finally got some clarity on a guy that

2358
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 4: you AND i certainly haven't talked to a ton of

2359
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 4: bout just because obviously the two big free agents is

2360
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 4: where the eyes are at right now in terms Of

2361
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:08,240
Speaker 4: Alec Pierce.

2362
02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 1: Daniel, jones and he did say that things look to

2363
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,240
Speaker 1: be going in the right direction with those, two but go, ahead.

2364
02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:15,760
Speaker 4: Right but we finally GOT i think some indication on

2365
02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:17,040
Speaker 4: the future Of Nick cross as.

2366
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:20,120
Speaker 1: Well Nick, cross a guy that was drafted young Player

2367
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 1: Uber athletic when they drafted, him had to kind of

2368
02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: learn how to play the, position BUT i think has

2369
02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:26,720
Speaker 1: learned to play the position at a very high.

2370
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 4: Level one of the rare guys in The ballard era

2371
02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 4: that he's traded up for to get and he gave

2372
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 4: up a future third.

2373
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 1: And now you Know ben again and. Improved you could

2374
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:41,240
Speaker 1: see the marked player here Is Chris ballard On Nick.

2375
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:43,160
Speaker 3: Cross he does mean a Lot we have a lot

2376
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 3: of moving parts, here so we'll see it it works.

2377
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 2: Out we've had talks with his.

2378
02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:50,680
Speaker 3: Representative i've known him, well And i'm proud Of, nick

2379
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 3: And i'm happy For. Nick and look sometimes like for,

2380
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:56,760
Speaker 3: players AND i tell him this when they're, rookies like

2381
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,160
Speaker 3: they're going to come a point when you AND i don't.

2382
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:04,360
Speaker 3: Agree you don't like me because of, finances don't. Like

2383
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:07,000
Speaker 3: there's this big, pie AND i can we can slice

2384
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 3: it up and give that piece of the, pie and

2385
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:13,560
Speaker 3: somebody might be willing to give you a bigger piece

2386
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 3: of pine if that.

2387
02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:16,320
Speaker 2: Happens. Good we've both done our.

2388
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 3: Jobs we've done our job developing, you and you've done

2389
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 3: an unbelievable job taking the coaching and getting better and

2390
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 3: each and every, year and you deserve this. Opportunity so

2391
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 3: we'll see what the future holds With. Nick i'm proud of,

2392
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:30,080
Speaker 3: Him i'm happy for. Him he made it the free

2393
02:11:30,080 --> 02:11:31,920
Speaker 3: agency and he's made it on a high.

2394
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 2: Note so we'll see how that works.

2395
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:38,880
Speaker 1: Out and again That's ballard has always said that he

2396
02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 1: prefers to take care of his own, Right, yeah and

2397
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:44,560
Speaker 1: reward those that merit being.

2398
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 4: Rewarded, yeah but to, me that sounds like a guy

2399
02:11:46,720 --> 02:11:51,040
Speaker 4: who isn't going to, have you, know the resources to

2400
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 4: offer Me.

2401
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:54,000
Speaker 1: Cross that may be Because cross might have played himself

2402
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 1: into a deal elsewhere and they do have some depth

2403
02:11:57,600 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 1: in that.

2404
02:11:57,880 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 4: Area, yeah when you're talking about the you, know certain

2405
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:04,200
Speaker 4: slices the pie and you're mentioning there at the, end

2406
02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:06,920
Speaker 4: he's made it a free agency talking about how you,

2407
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 4: know if you, know if we're at a point where

2408
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 4: your representatives and you are mad at me Because i'm

2409
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 4: not giving you what you think you, deserve and there's

2410
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 4: another steam out there that could potentially offer you more.

2411
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:18,480
Speaker 4: Money like to, Me i'm just kind of reading between

2412
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 4: the lines. There it's, Like, okay we're gonna be having

2413
02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:23,920
Speaker 4: a new starting safety And Chris ballard is next to.

2414
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:28,840
Speaker 1: Can bind him next year for The COLTS A. J Hunter,

2415
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:31,240
Speaker 1: wooler that's the bigger. Question roller's another big. ONE i

2416
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 1: remember he was, hurt but he was playing at a high,

2417
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:35,839
Speaker 1: level Justin wally AND i know it's, corner not defensive,

2418
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:37,960
Speaker 1: back but that. Backfield you, know they have some guys

2419
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 1: coming back from injury that if they come back at

2420
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:43,800
Speaker 1: the level that they were, anticipated it could be. Good, Hey,

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02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:46,120
Speaker 1: jake want to let you, Know revenge of The nerds

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Speaker 1: streaming service will touch. It you literally can't even buy

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Speaker 1: it From. Amazon issue In revenge of The nerds is

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Speaker 1: sense but, WELL i guess it. Does you, know it

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Speaker 1: is interesting the, things AND i could see that being

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Speaker 1: the case in Sixteen candles as. Well if that is the,

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Speaker 1: case appreciate the heads up on. That so, Well i'll

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Speaker 1: have To i'll just have to watch it WHENEVER i

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Speaker 1: an OLD vhs. Tape, now we had A vhs tape

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Speaker 1: WHEN i was in middle school Of revenge of The.

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Speaker 1: Nerds but the if you would, pause if you would

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Speaker 1: pause a tape long, enough it would kind of like

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Speaker 1: the tape that the video would get a little bit

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Speaker 1: distorted because the tape would thin down from being paused

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Speaker 1: all of a. Sudden so there was a particular, Scene

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Speaker 1: booger makes a request on the camera work on something they're,

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Speaker 1: watching and as a result we we froze it a

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Speaker 1: lot WHEN i was in the eighth. Grade i'll leave

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Speaker 1: like you literally can't even buy it right, now and

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Speaker 1: let's see on. This we gotta we gotta get to

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Speaker 1: there are definitely things with some movies that you look

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Speaker 1: more sensitive and aware culture than we were at one,

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Speaker 1: time and there are some things that you're, like, man

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Speaker 1: John Big show Hate revenge of The. Nerds, Betty so

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Speaker 1: was it ever on That? Betty when he was in

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02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:04,959
Speaker 1: that mask and they were in the h the, carnival

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02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:07,280
Speaker 1: the fun such a word just talking About apparently that's

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02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:10,400
Speaker 1: why you can't stream it. Now oh because Of betty's, nudity,

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02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 1: right because of the lack of. Consent oh, yeah there

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02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:15,440
Speaker 1: was zero content. Whatsoever.

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02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:17,640
Speaker 10: Correct he just kind of popped his grill in, there

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02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:19,560
Speaker 10: and she WAS i guess it's a good.

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02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:22,160
Speaker 1: Thing she was pretty satisfied at that. Moment betty thought

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Speaker 1: it Was Stan it's weird Dan gable there Is did

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02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:28,040
Speaker 1: you ever think that the stuff they actually cut out

2485
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Speaker 1: in our favorite movies in the eighties would be the

2486
02:16:30,040 --> 02:16:32,800
Speaker 1: stuff that they would cut? Out you know WHAT i? Mean,

2487
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:35,680
Speaker 1: Now it's just it's kind of. Well there are a

2488
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of things that that you look back on now,

2489
02:16:38,480 --> 02:16:40,280
Speaker 1: though and you're, LIKE whoa Really? Okay, YEAH i.

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02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:40,360
Speaker 10: Know.

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02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah but the here's the thing, though she ends UP

2492
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:48,440
Speaker 1: i don't want to spoil the movie For eddie. Here

2493
02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:50,480
Speaker 1: betty ends up falling For, lewis though she.

2494
02:16:50,520 --> 02:16:54,200
Speaker 10: Does she Does betty when they went when they were

2495
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:57,280
Speaker 10: going through the sorority, though oh, yeah that was.

2496
02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:01,280
Speaker 1: GREAT i love you. KNOW i went. That my mom

2497
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:02,000
Speaker 1: took me to see.

2498
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:06,039
Speaker 10: That my mom took me to see.

2499
02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:08,560
Speaker 1: That the scene Where i'll just say, that you, Know

2500
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:12,199
Speaker 1: booger makes a request of the camera, work no, doubt

2501
02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 1: that's aw. WELL i with your.

2502
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 10: Mom the first TIME i Saw Fast times At Rizmond

2503
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 10: high was with my. Mom and When hamilton started to

2504
02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:27,560
Speaker 10: uh flog the, dolphin she turned and, said do you do?

2505
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:29,920
Speaker 1: That anyone ever knock? Anymore excuse?

2506
02:17:29,959 --> 02:17:31,800
Speaker 10: Me she asked me IF i did, that and of

2507
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:33,360
Speaker 10: COURSE i, said like three times a.

2508
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:38,920
Speaker 1: Day that probably wasn't uncomfortable at. All, right you know,

2509
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:40,840
Speaker 1: what you, know you know what you should have said

2510
02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:43,200
Speaker 1: to her my heart. Meeting, YES i don't. Know, Mom

2511
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,560
Speaker 1: Get Phoebe CAGs to come over swimming and we'll find.

2512
02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:47,760
Speaker 1: Out right it. Is, well it's like The seinfeld.

2513
02:17:47,760 --> 02:17:50,680
Speaker 10: EPISODE i, mean you got one of, those so, yeah

2514
02:17:51,320 --> 02:17:52,439
Speaker 10: probably do.

2515
02:17:53,640 --> 02:17:56,080
Speaker 1: Right, yeah the, competition, RIGHT.

2516
02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:58,400
Speaker 10: I THINK i was well ahead of The seinfeld episode right. There,

2517
02:17:58,400 --> 02:18:01,520
Speaker 10: HEY i you last night as you. WENT i went

2518
02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:03,160
Speaker 10: to The pacer. Game oh you went to The pacer.

2519
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:04,800
Speaker 10: Game OH i saw you post a.

2520
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:07,560
Speaker 1: Phonograph somebody sent me the picture of look at this

2521
02:18:07,600 --> 02:18:07,840
Speaker 1: and that.

2522
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:10,720
Speaker 10: Was anybody not going to sit in the balcony watch

2523
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 10: nine minutes of absolutely awful offense.

2524
02:18:13,680 --> 02:18:15,720
Speaker 1: Like that in the second, Half SO i? Brutal do

2525
02:18:15,800 --> 02:18:16,200
Speaker 1: we know it?

2526
02:18:16,280 --> 02:18:19,320
Speaker 10: All is this A is this a pass because it's

2527
02:18:19,360 --> 02:18:21,280
Speaker 10: your number one For Darren? Devrees or is this a

2528
02:18:21,320 --> 02:18:23,800
Speaker 10: pass because nobody gives a crap and everybody Loves?

2529
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:27,200
Speaker 1: Signetti the? EYE i THINK i, SAID i jokingly said

2530
02:18:27,280 --> 02:18:30,040
Speaker 1: last night to my, friends we talk about LIKE iu,

2531
02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:33,320
Speaker 1: basketball which coach like did IN iu, Basketball Samson, miller you,

2532
02:18:33,360 --> 02:18:36,400
Speaker 1: Know And i'm, like maybe it Was signetti. RIGHT i

2533
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:38,520
Speaker 1: mean Maybe signetti is the coach that. Now it's like

2534
02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:40,800
Speaker 1: people are just, like, yeah, well you, know wake me

2535
02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 1: up when football season. STARTS i, mean it is. Incredible

2536
02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:46,160
Speaker 1: why can't any that Was.

2537
02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:50,640
Speaker 10: Northwestern it's not like we're Talking michigan or Even, purdue

2538
02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:53,560
Speaker 10: which they did beat at. Home But Northwestern northwestern is

2539
02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:55,560
Speaker 10: one there what five straight six straight?

2540
02:18:55,600 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 1: Times? Yep that is In Crest. Northwest, well how many

2541
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:03,760
Speaker 1: times in a row At Assembly? Hall it's like four

2542
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:07,480
Speaker 1: times in a row At Assembly. Hall that's. DISGUSTING i, Mean,

2543
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 1: john that was. Inconceivable this is not the quiz bol

2544
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:14,080
Speaker 1: For god's, sake right basketball?

2545
02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:14,880
Speaker 9: Game?

2546
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:16,600
Speaker 1: Conceivable is is?

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Speaker 10: Right maybe once upon a time they would get close

2548
02:19:19,800 --> 02:19:22,920
Speaker 10: and Oh northwestern in a double overtime, loss and they

2549
02:19:22,920 --> 02:19:23,360
Speaker 10: were really.

2550
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:26,520
Speaker 1: Close but, yeah this is embarrassing. IT i don't know.

2551
02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:29,400
Speaker 10: WHY i guess it's his first. Year you get a.

2552
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:31,640
Speaker 10: PASS i don't know whether the guy can coach it

2553
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 10: THAT i.

2554
02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:35,080
Speaker 1: Because when they had to put the roster, together is

2555
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:37,440
Speaker 1: the one area where he gets a. Pass that's it.

2556
02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:40,440
Speaker 1: THOUGH i mean you wouldn't say that they're necessarily playing

2557
02:19:40,440 --> 02:19:41,960
Speaker 1: better now than they were at the beginning of the.

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02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:44,040
Speaker 10: Year, well they're guys they didn't get because of when

2559
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:44,960
Speaker 10: they had to put the roster?

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02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:47,480
Speaker 1: Together is that WHY i would? THINK i mean it was, late,

2561
02:19:47,560 --> 02:19:51,400
Speaker 1: right What's Ryan? Carr Is Ryan carr going to bring in?

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02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:54,680
Speaker 10: Guys he's The andrew luck of, this That's.

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02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:56,880
Speaker 1: Corren, Right and that's WHAT i was asking Rab john's

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02:19:56,879 --> 02:19:58,680
Speaker 1: And i'm looking forward to talk To ryan to ask

2565
02:19:58,760 --> 02:20:02,200
Speaker 1: him this of you, know is this A Darren devrees

2566
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:05,320
Speaker 1: attached hire or Is Ryan carr there regardless of who

2567
02:20:05,360 --> 02:20:07,480
Speaker 1: the coach? Is you know that kind of. Thing this

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02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:10,039
Speaker 1: is strictly For Chad. Buchanon BUT i like to make fun.

2569
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Speaker 10: Of all The iowa influence in basketball going on around

2570
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:16,160
Speaker 10: because sometimes you think That iowa invented basketball.

2571
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:17,520
Speaker 1: Around of, course clearly it.

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02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 10: Hasn't right, There, clearly we like Our iowa folks are

2573
02:20:24,160 --> 02:20:26,360
Speaker 10: out here a great. Deal shout out To chadbute kid

2574
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:29,039
Speaker 10: and right the state Of. IOWA i don't think you

2575
02:20:29,080 --> 02:20:31,240
Speaker 10: guys created. Basketball we, did all?

2576
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:32,680
Speaker 1: Right john's up? Next what's on The Big?

2577
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:36,480
Speaker 10: Show that's a good. Question something is what's going on?

2578
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:38,760
Speaker 10: Still the combine going? On we were we lucked, out

2579
02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:39,360
Speaker 10: didn't have to go.

2580
02:20:39,400 --> 02:20:42,160
Speaker 1: TODAY i KNOW i was supposed to be Their, friday

2581
02:20:42,200 --> 02:20:43,680
Speaker 1: But i'm off the hook.

2582
02:20:43,720 --> 02:20:46,760
Speaker 10: Now you Had shane on. Yesterday shane was on. YESTERDAY

2583
02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 10: i got five word. ANSWERS i had thirty five questions.

2584
02:20:49,720 --> 02:20:52,120
Speaker 10: ASKED i had thirty five questions loaded rapid fire with

2585
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:54,600
Speaker 10: five word. Answers SO i got five minutes of cordy.

2586
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 1: Questions took twelve.

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02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:58,520
Speaker 10: Minutes thirty five questions of five minutes of. Content that

2588
02:20:58,720 --> 02:21:01,080
Speaker 10: is incredible if that's ever been done.

2589
02:21:01,080 --> 02:21:04,120
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2590
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:07,520
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2593
02:21:13,720 --> 02:21:16,200
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2595
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:21,600
Speaker 1: the golf season at The Legends Golf. Club had a

2596
02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:23,480
Speaker 1: fun time last year with that and we look forward

2597
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:25,920
Speaker 1: to that. Again all, Right john's up. Next we'll be

2598
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:27,879
Speaker 1: back with you at noon, tomorrow AND i thank you

2599
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:29,080
Speaker 1: for listening To Querying. Company