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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Cats Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Merry Christmas. Welcome to Tony CAATs Today.

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Speaker 3: I am your guest host.

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Speaker 2: Kira David's filling in for my good friend Tony Kats.

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Speaker 2: Coming to you live from southern California. Not so sunny

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Speaker 2: out here. It's actually raining. We're in the middle of

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Speaker 2: our rainy season, but we've also had some.

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Speaker 3: We've also had some.

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Speaker 2: Unusual rain. I'll say that unusual fog, unusual rain. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: been suspicious around here. Actually you should go online and

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Speaker 2: check it out. It's not the typical winter weather. That

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Speaker 2: being said, closest thing we get to winter, so I'll

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Speaker 2: take it it's closest thing we get to a cozy Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. Tony Cats

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Speaker 2: is out today. I'm filling in for Tony. You can

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Speaker 2: find me over on at Kira Davis k or you

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Speaker 2: can go to my website just Kira Davis dot com.

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Speaker 3: Check out all of this stuff I'm doing over there.

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Speaker 2: I took the week of Christmas off, but today I

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Speaker 2: added a nice Christmas message. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: Christmas is still going on. Of course, as we know,

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Speaker 2: Tony does and celebrate Christmas because he's a Jew.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: We don't hold it against him. I'm just kidding, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Happy Hanukkah and happy holidays to you, Tony. And I

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Speaker 2: know he also wishes everyone out there on Merry Christmas

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Speaker 2: as well. But we Christians are still celebrating the Christmas season.

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Speaker 2: And I wrote a little piece today on my substrack

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Speaker 2: about why it's important to go out there and say

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Mary. Christmas is not just a greeting, although it is.

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Speaker 2: A greeting, and I do love that everyone says it

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Speaker 2: at the holidays. You know, my Jewish friends, particularly my

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Speaker 2: Jewish friends, I will say, I've never met I don't

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Speaker 2: know where we get this. I've never met a Jewish

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Speaker 2: American who has been offended when I say married Christmas.

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Speaker 2: In fact, most of them like it because they recognize

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Speaker 2: it as a warm holiday greeting. It means something. So

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Speaker 2: of course we should say Merry Christmas. If for no

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Speaker 2: other reason, then if you're not into the religious, the

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Speaker 2: religiosity at the Hall of the Holiday, if for no

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Speaker 2: other reason, then it's very American to say Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: You know, my husband and sen are getting ready to

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Speaker 2: go to Japan next fall. They're playing a trip to Japan,

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Speaker 2: and they were looking at how the Japanese celebrate Christmas,

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Speaker 2: and I thought that was kind of funny, and I said,

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Speaker 2: what are the Japanese celebrating when they celebrate Christmas? They're

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Speaker 2: not Christians. Christianity, I think is I think is one

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Speaker 2: of the least Christian countries in the world. Actually, there

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Speaker 2: really is next to zero presence of the Church in Japan,

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Speaker 2: and yet Christian Christmas is a holiday. What are they celebrating.

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Speaker 2: And my son said, well, it's cultural, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: And I think there's something to that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's American, but why is it considered American? So

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Speaker 2: the Merry Christmas greeting also, yes it's an American greeting,

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Speaker 2: but here in America it's a blessing. It is us

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Speaker 2: saying to people Christmas is here, Christmas has arrived, and

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Speaker 2: Christmas isn't a season. Christmas is a person. Christmas is

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Speaker 2: the baby Jesus. Christmas is Jesus came as a baby,

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Speaker 2: didn't stay as a baby. That's why we say Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: So it's really important to say it. And I think

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Speaker 2: everybody who loves this country agrees, even if they don't

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Speaker 2: share the holiday, even if they don't share the religious

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Speaker 3: And I think that is.

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Speaker 2: Also something that makes it very special. I think that

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Speaker 2: It means something even when it doesn't mean anything to

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Speaker 2: the So Merry Christmas to you. Christmas has arrived and

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Speaker 2: it's a great time to celebrate.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot going on out there and

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Speaker 3: a lot of We've got influencer wars going on. What's

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of you are concerned about what's

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Speaker 3: If you want to be concerned with that, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: These people are important people because they're called influencers for

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Speaker 3: Them more than others. I think we could make a

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Speaker 2: I tend to believe that what God has for us

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Speaker 3: For the movement.

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Speaker 2: But as far as the rest of those people up there,

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Speaker 3: Trump did that, and you did that, and people.

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Speaker 2: Who don't know any of those influencers did that. Right.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people cross the aisle to get that done, and.

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Speaker 2: None of them have a clue what's going on on

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Speaker 3: So I want you to I just want to give

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Speaker 3: want to, you just think about what you believe, think about.

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Speaker 2: What you know to be right. Be entertained by them,

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Speaker 2: get information from them. Absolutely, that's what they're there for.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying cancel them or don't ever listen to them.

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Speaker 2: Do whatever you want, you're an American, but please understand

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Speaker 2: Not quite adjusted to the new reality of the entertainment scape. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're still thinking of I talked to Stacey Washington,

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Speaker 2: and we have not understood that the industry has changed

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Speaker 2: Tony and I are really we've been friends for a

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Speaker 2: We were all activists. We were activists for the truth.

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Speaker 3: That was our goal to be heard. But we were

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Speaker 2: The problem is that we were so successful we actually

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Speaker 2: is entertainment. And if you don't think the news is entertainment,

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: That means we need to give you things you're interested in.

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Speaker 2: And what the outlet determines is interesting to you depends.

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Speaker 2: So news is entertainment to a large extent, and we

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Speaker 2: and we like entertainers.

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Speaker 3: That's what this is.

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Speaker 2: You don't think so, because they're giving you information that's real, right,

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Speaker 2: they're talking about what's in the news. They're talking about

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Speaker 2: the intrigue of politics. But it's just entertainment. They're entertainers

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Speaker 2: And that's why your local truth teller makes pennies. These

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying let them be who they are and

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Speaker 3: You need to know what you believe on your.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what you believe? Do you still believe

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Speaker 3: What about you? What do you believe? Where are you at?

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Speaker 2: Does what you believe change according to the person who's

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Speaker 2: That's why it's really important for you to think through

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Speaker 3: I think you'll you'll. I think if if you're new.

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Speaker 2: To my voice, maybe you want to go find me

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Speaker 3: You need to know that because.

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Speaker 2: The landscape's always changing, the landscape escape's always shifting, and

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Speaker 2: now that we've welcomed the entertainers into conservative politics, it's

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Speaker 2: definitely going to feel like a roller coaster. It's definitely

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Speaker 2: not dedicated to the cause. They're dedicated to their bank balances. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, that's not a condemnation. That's not a judgment.

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Speaker 2: They are entertainments tainers.

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Speaker 3: This is their job.

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Speaker 2: But that means that their job comes first, right, not

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Speaker 2: your beliefs or guiding you or leading you. They're not leaders.

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Speaker 2: These people aren't in the streets. They might show up

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Speaker 3: They're not making the candidate call. Right, They're not you.

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Speaker 3: So you need to know what you believe.

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: Mary Christmas, Happy New Year. I'm Creed Davis filling in

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Speaker 2: for my good friend Tony. He is off today. Today

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Speaker 2: is Friday, December twenty sixth, Come into you live from

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Speaker 2: Christmas this year for us here in southern California, we

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Speaker 2: We muck up everything and then we send it out

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Speaker 2: Slash centrist Republicans. Everybody to the right is the majority.

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Speaker 2: you ever think that we would ever say, Oh, Minnesota

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Speaker 2: paying attention. All of this is on purpose. They've bled

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Speaker 2: and that's always been the case. As much as we

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Speaker 3: It was the sign of desperation. And where'd it go? Lost?

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back with much more of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kiera Davis filling up for Tony Katz and you're

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Speaker 2: listening to Tony Kats today. We welcome back everybody to

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Mary Christmas, Tony Katz is out. I'm

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Speaker 2: your guest host for the day, Kira Davis. You can

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Speaker 2: book Drawing Lines White Conservatives and must begin to battle

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Speaker 3: The arena of ideas.

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Speaker 2: And the Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, posted his Quansa

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Speaker 3: I guess Kwanza starts today. Happy quans.

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Speaker 2: Those of you who are new to my voice might

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Speaker 2: not know I'm black. And for a few years, my

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Speaker 2: When you're celebrating it, you feel like it's made up.

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Speaker 3: Good riddance to happy Kwansa, I.

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Speaker 2: Think again, going back to my post on substack today,

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Speaker 2: If you want to celebrate Kwansa in your community, fine

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Speaker 3: And quansa sucks. So that's my QUANSA message for you.

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Speaker 2: John says Democrats deserve credit for outperforming expectations in New

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Speaker 2: There are eleven long months before the midterm elections. I

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Speaker 2: which is going to have some bad consequences down the road,

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Speaker 2: not yet, but it's coming outside money. I think they

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Speaker 2: poured one hundred and fifty million dollars into that race

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Speaker 2: and they and they barely won it. But the fact

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Speaker 2: that they had to pour so much money into it

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Speaker 2: to win. They did the same thing in Virginia, a

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Speaker 2: lot of outside money. Same thing with that Tennessee special

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Speaker 2: election race, right, And then what happened is because Democrats

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Speaker 2: were pouring so much money into it, Republicans did the

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Speaker 2: same thing. Then Republicans came in and said, oh, we

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Speaker 2: got a rally around this Republican in the special election.

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Speaker 2: They had them on Fox News, who's on News mex

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Speaker 2: who's on all the big broadcasters. The Republicans circled the

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Speaker 2: wagons in this special election. Otherwise they would have left

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Speaker 2: it alone. So it's a red flag to say, hey, Republicans,

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Speaker 2: you need to get it on this game too. You

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Speaker 2: need to be paying attention to what's going on in

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Speaker 2: the local councils of Oklahoma too.

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Speaker 3: Michigan has overrun everyone.

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Speaker 2: Michigan's been overrun by the Muslims, got entire Muslim towns there,

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Speaker 2: and they're just sitting there quietly. Springfield, Ohio. That situation

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Speaker 2: was going on for years before we found out about it.

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Speaker 2: All of these pockets are sitting in our little rural

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Speaker 2: areas and only the people there know about it, and

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about it, and we won't know until

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Speaker 2: the cancer spreads. Well, we're lucky enough to have social media.

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Speaker 2: Now we're lucky enough to have to add elon musk

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Speaker 2: buy x and make it a free speech platform where

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Speaker 2: we can share these stories. We're starting to see these

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Speaker 2: things in ways we've never been allowed to see them before,

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Speaker 2: and we're seeing that the enemy is inside the gates.

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Speaker 2: So I do think that it's it matters that we

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Speaker 2: start paying attention to these local elections and the national

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Speaker 2: party start putting resources towards it, and the activists, the

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Speaker 2: national activists start putting their resources efforts towards it as well.

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Speaker 2: The Muslim thing's a problem. I think I'll save it

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Speaker 2: for next hour. It's actually a real problem, and I

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Speaker 2: think we're going to have to take real and drastic

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Speaker 2: solutions to deal with it. I don't think we're in

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Speaker 2: a I don't think we're in a situation where we're

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Speaker 2: going to elect our way out of this. Unfortunately, I'll

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Speaker 2: get to that next hour. Let's go on to inconvenient

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Speaker 2: truth number three that John Fleischmann pointed out when he

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Speaker 2: attended the Democrat National Convention in la last week. Number three,

483
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Speaker 2: everything is too expensive is an awkward message for a

484
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Speaker 2: party making things expensive. Democratic leaders repeatedly emphasize that Americans

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Speaker 2: we're struggling with the rising costs, A concern is real

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Speaker 2: and widely shared. The complication is that Democrats govern most

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Speaker 2: of the country's largest states and cities, the very places

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Speaker 2: where housing, energy, and taxes are often most expensive. A

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Speaker 2: message build a ground affordability inevitably invites voters to ask

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Speaker 2: who has been writing the rules. Gavin Newsom was front

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Speaker 2: and center at this confab, and we've documented how unaffordable

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Speaker 2: the policies he supports have made California relative to other states. Again,

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Speaker 2: why you need to pay attention to what's going on here.

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Speaker 2: Don't just yell at us California's on X when we

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Speaker 2: complain about our government. Don't just be snarky to us.

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Speaker 2: You can be snarky to the Libs. We don't like

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Speaker 2: them either.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: You can go ahead and make make fun of the

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Speaker 2: progressive lefties here on the left coast.

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Speaker 3: That's fine, But the rest of us be kind. Please.

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Speaker 3: We're fighting so hard, and I know your solution is

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Speaker 3: to just move, but we're doing that. Is that what

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Speaker 3: you want? We are doing that.

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Speaker 2: We're moving out of California and we're making your lives miserable.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should help us keep California healthy so that

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Speaker 2: the weirdos stay here and don't come to you. I

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Speaker 2: don't have any control over the weirdos that come to you.

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Speaker 2: Everybody I know you keep telling me this. Tony Kats

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Speaker 2: listeners can contact me all the time to tell me.

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Speaker 2: If you guys are moving to the Midwest, don't take

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Speaker 2: your values with you. Tell those people don't vote for

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Speaker 2: the same things that made their lives miserable.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell them nothing. They don't live here. They're

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Speaker 3: your problem.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: This is why I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: They're coming to you whether you like it or not,

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00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: and they vote whether you like it or not, and

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Speaker 2: whether you like it.

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Speaker 3: Or not, we don't get to tell them how to vote.

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Speaker 3: So my suggestion to you, mister Midwest, miss Florida, miss Texas,

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Speaker 3: is to start getting on your city councils and all

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Speaker 3: of the panels on your government and all of those

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Speaker 3: things you can get appointed.

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Speaker 2: Four and the school boards. Start running for those things now.

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Speaker 2: Because progressives love government and they love meetings. So first

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00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: thing you're going to do when they come to your neighborhood,

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Speaker 2: they're going to get on your school board and you're

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Speaker 2: just gonna go, oh, good, well, someone else is doing it.

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Speaker 3: I'll have to bother with it and keep living my life.

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Speaker 2: No, and then you're gonna be surprised in two years

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Speaker 2: when someone's teaching little Sally that she can be little

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Speaker 2: Johnny in kindergarten.

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Speaker 3: If you don't want California's.

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Speaker 2: Coming to you and reakan havoc in your local government,

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Speaker 2: you best get on your local government. Now we're coming.

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Speaker 2: And liberals love meetings. What can I say? They're the

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Speaker 2: conference called culture. All right, let's take a break. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot more when we come back. I'm Kia

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Speaker 2: Davis filling it for Tony Kats and this is Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats Today. Welcome back to everybody to Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: I'm your guest host, Kia Davis filling in for my

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Speaker 2: good friend Tony.

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Speaker 3: It's the Christmas season that your be what wond Christmas

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Speaker 3: is here?

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, everybody. I'm Kia Davis, who can follow me

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Speaker 2: on X at Kira Davis. K I go hit up

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Speaker 2: my Instagram at just Kira Davis. Jost Kira Davis filling

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Speaker 2: in on the holidays for my friend and we're talking

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00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 2: about the DNC.

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Speaker 3: Did you even know?

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Speaker 2: Did you even know that the Democrats had a national

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Speaker 2: conference last week?

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Speaker 3: I didn't, and I live here. I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I kind of suspect they didn't want you to know.

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Speaker 2: So my friend John Fleischmann went and he's been reporting

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Speaker 2: on what he saw there, and he listed a bunch

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Speaker 2: of inconvenient truths that he saw.

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Speaker 3: While he was there. And I've been reading down this list.

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Speaker 2: Number four, the party's deep bench was missing, he says.

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Speaker 2: For a party celebrating renewed confidence, the absence of many

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Speaker 2: of its most recognizable leaders was hard to miss. Senate

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Speaker 2: Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, House Democratic Leader Hakaem, Jeffries, Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 2: AOC Liz Warren, several governors routinely described as future national

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Speaker 2: figures were nowhere to be seen.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: Also absent, where some of the parties knew, were left

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Speaker 2: facing standard bearers, including New York City's mayor elect Zoron

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Speaker 2: Mom Donnie and avowed Democratic socialist whose rise reflects where

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Speaker 2: many activists want the party to go. If this gathering

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Speaker 2: was meant to showcase democratic leadership, the roster fell felt

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Speaker 2: thin and carefully managed.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy to me, that's crazy nobody. That's why you

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Speaker 3: didn't hear anything. Nobody was there.

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Speaker 2: They had a national conference and none of these people

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Speaker 2: were there. Something's going on, and it's at the top,

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Speaker 2: and it's the same thing is happening here.

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Speaker 3: You know what's going on everybody. Same thing's going on

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Speaker 3: on the right. You know what this is not.

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Speaker 2: This is not an ideological or how do I say this?

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Speaker 2: This is not an ideologically exclusive battle.

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Speaker 3: I'll say that. So this is not a battle of

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Speaker 3: the right.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not the right that's having this problem. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's the anti semis versus versus pro Israel. Or it's

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Speaker 2: not the left, Oh, it's the progressive versus the traditional liberals.

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Speaker 2: This is global, this is a we are in a

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Speaker 2: global war.

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Speaker 3: It's the elites versus the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: So what you're seeing happening in the Democrat Party is

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Speaker 2: the exact same thing that's happening on the right. Have

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Speaker 2: you paid attention what's going on over a heritage foundation.

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Speaker 2: Mike Pence just started a new think tank. I think

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Speaker 2: it's called Americans for Freedom aff something like that, But

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Speaker 2: it's a heritage style thing tank and they actually poached

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Speaker 2: a bunch of Heritage people. It's still going on today.

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Speaker 2: They've got a huge investment nut over there.

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Speaker 3: And I know you've seen some.

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Speaker 2: Dust ups at Heritage, right with Kevin Roberts over there,

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Speaker 2: he said some things that people maybe interpreted as leaning

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Speaker 2: towards anti Semitism. I honestly didn't pay close enough attention

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Speaker 2: to have a real opinion on it. All I know

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Speaker 2: is I've never heard this kind of problem coming out

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Speaker 2: of Heritage.

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Speaker 3: Ever.

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Speaker 2: What's happening over there is the same thing that's happened

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Speaker 2: what's happening over here on the right is the same

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Speaker 2: thing that's happening over there. What's happening on that TPUSA

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Speaker 2: stage is the same thing.

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Speaker 3: And just because you.

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Speaker 2: Know all those people and they're very aggressive conservative voices.

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Speaker 3: Don't think that they're not the elites. They are. These

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Speaker 3: are the million dollar earners.

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Speaker 2: This is a battle between the elite wing of politics

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Speaker 2: and the rest of us, and we're fighting to decide

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Speaker 2: who gets to be who gets to be the most influential,

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Speaker 2: We're fighting to decide who matters the most, and the elites,

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Speaker 2: whether you've been at the top here on the right

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Speaker 2: of the heap with the Megan Kelly's and the Fox

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Speaker 2: News crew.

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Speaker 3: Whether you've been at the top here.

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Speaker 2: On the right or the top on the left with

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Speaker 2: the Nancy Pelosis and the Jake Tappers, it's.

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Speaker 3: The same thing, though their ideologies are different.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to pretend that these people are fake

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Speaker 2: and what they believe they're not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that at all. But they figured out

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Speaker 3: a way how.

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Speaker 2: To be entertainment, how to make a living off of

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Speaker 2: what they believe.

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Speaker 3: And go from there.

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Speaker 2: They are the elites, and they're arguing right now over

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Speaker 2: who gets to be the most influential, And you get

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Speaker 2: to decide that for them, not them.

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Speaker 3: You get to decide.

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Speaker 2: You get to decide who's going to be your guiding star,

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Speaker 2: your true north, who you're going to listen.

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Speaker 3: To You'll care, Davis.

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Speaker 2: I read the word, I listen to God, and then

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Speaker 2: I have when I want to know about the politics

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Speaker 2: of man. Then I have some trusted voices that carry

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Speaker 2: weight with me, but they don't decide for me. Ever,

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Speaker 2: I trust Tony. When I have questions, I'll call Tony.

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Speaker 3: Think about this.

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Speaker 2: I'll call my friend Kurtchlick, or I'll call people find

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Speaker 2: out who you trust and start there.

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Speaker 3: All right, We'll be back after the break. I'm Kurre.

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Speaker 2: David's filling in for Tony Kats and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 6: Merry Christmas, live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday, December twenty sixth.

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Speaker 2: I am your guest host here, David's filling in form

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Speaker 2: my good friend Tony Kats over this holiday week. I'm

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Speaker 2: so happy to be with you, coming to you from

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Speaker 2: southern California. You can hellow me on x at Kira

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Speaker 2: at Davis Kiri or Instagram at just Kira Davis, just

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Speaker 2: Kia Davis, or thought to my website site at escredatas

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Speaker 2: dot com. I am also going to be on Fox

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Speaker 2: News tonight on Hannity in the nine pm Eastern hour,

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Speaker 2: not sure exactly what time, and I think I'll be

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Speaker 2: back there again next week on the twenty ninth, and

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Speaker 2: I'll also be around the radio universe as well. I

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Speaker 2: am actually a professional fill in hosts. Is what I

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Speaker 2: do for a gig, is what I do for a job.

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Speaker 2: You believe it.

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Speaker 3: I know, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I want to please get to some clips because we

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Speaker 2: have some fun or interesting clips, but I wanted to

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Speaker 2: just wrap up this article on the inconvenient truths that

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Speaker 2: my friend John found at the Democrat National Convention, which

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Speaker 2: you did not know happened. Number six, he says, the

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Speaker 2: party is still looking backward. Number seven, he said, the

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Speaker 2: parties center of gravity keeps pulling left, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's evidence. Before the break, I told you who showed up,

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00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: which is nobody, not even Mom Donnie showed up. But

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00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: they're they're having real problems, and they're saying that they

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Speaker 2: want he says. Democrats say they want to win back

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Speaker 2: swing voters, but they're messaging priorities and governing record and

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Speaker 2: deep blue states suggest a party more inclined to double

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Speaker 2: down than recalibrate. This is such a good this is

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Speaker 2: such a good article. It's so doesn't matter by John Fleischman.

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Speaker 2: He's got it behind a paywall. Maybe I'll convince him

686
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Speaker 2: to try to take it out from from behind the

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Speaker 2: paywall because it's so good.

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Speaker 3: I think people need just to see this.

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Speaker 2: But he's absolutely right, and this is the advantage that

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Speaker 2: we have if we play our cards right. The advantage

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Speaker 2: that we have is that the enemy can't pivot. They

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Speaker 2: don't have the ability. Now they have locked themselves into

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Speaker 2: this ideological They've painted themselves into this ideological corner. There's

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Speaker 2: no escape for them. They have judged, they went all

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Speaker 2: in again. I want you to remember, this is why

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Speaker 2: they're fighting so hard. This is why they're willing to

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Speaker 2: kill people over this.

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Speaker 3: This is everything to them. This is their world.

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Speaker 2: They only have success based on cheating, fraud.

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Speaker 3: And violence.

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Speaker 2: If you take away the cheating, which we did in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, or at least temporarily in that moment,

703
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Speaker 2: if you take away the fraud which is beginning to happen,

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Speaker 2: Hello Somalia, Hello Minneapolis, then what are you left with?

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Speaker 2: Violence that's the last straw for them, that is their

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Speaker 2: last stand because they are losing everything, and these are

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Speaker 2: the actions of a desperate enemy.

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Speaker 3: So that's what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible, it's incredible to watch. So if

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Speaker 2: we play our cards right, that's why I don't want

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Speaker 2: you to get too panicked over what's happening with the

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Speaker 2: right wing influencers on the TPUSA stage. We won last

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Speaker 2: year don't forget. And that didn't change the reason. The

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Speaker 2: reasons we won did not change. None of that's changed.

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Speaker 3: Guess why President Trump hasn't changed. The only thing he's

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Speaker 3: changed on is.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's gotten more hardcore, more hardcore.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I got distracted.

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Speaker 2: So I'm coming to you from my home studio and

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Speaker 2: my dog doesn't like it when I yell.

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Speaker 3: She's growling in the background, like there's something wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there is something wrong, dog. America is wrong. There's

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Speaker 2: something wrong with America right now. And it's called the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party. Just absolutely insane. You know what, Let's go

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Speaker 2: to these Let's go to some clips, and I'll make

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Speaker 2: my point in these clips. Let's go to the mayor

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Speaker 2: of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: Do I have that? Yes, this is the mayor.

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Speaker 2: Of Minneapolis talking about ice, saying he's worried the ice

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Speaker 2: is going to get someone killed. I want you to

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Speaker 2: pay attention to what he's saying, and as you're listening

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Speaker 2: to him talk, I want you to pretend that he

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Speaker 2: is predicting, that he's predicting, not worrying.

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Speaker 3: All right, go ahead and play the clip.

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Speaker 7: I am increasingly concerned because of the chaos that is

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Speaker 7: being caused by these ice agents, that somebody is gonna

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Speaker 7: get seriously injured or killed. Somebody is going to get

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Speaker 7: seriously injured or killed. And whether that is an ICE

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Speaker 7: agent or a community member, we all know the tinderbox

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Speaker 7: that could explode because of them. We all know that

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Speaker 7: the federal government is looking for reasons to deploy more

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Speaker 7: and more people to Minneapolis and blue cities around the country.

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Speaker 7: We all know that we cannot afford to lose a

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Speaker 7: single Miniapolis's resident because they showed up and decided to

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Speaker 7: protect their neighbors, because they showed up and decided to

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Speaker 7: express their constitutional right to free speech. And so that

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Speaker 7: concern is deep. It is held, by the way, not

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Speaker 7: just by me and our residents and the people who

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Speaker 7: are standing.

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Speaker 1: Up behind me.

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Speaker 7: The concern about getting somebody killed is also held by

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Speaker 7: our police officer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the mayor of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Why you can't see it's radio obviously be surrounded by smallies.

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Speaker 2: Those people are hostages now and in white official in

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Speaker 2: Minnesota right now, that's a hostage.

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Speaker 3: This man just told you.

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Speaker 2: He this man stood up in front of the country

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Speaker 2: and told you we're gonna kill ice officers. That wasn't

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Speaker 2: a fear, that wasn't a worry, that was a prediction,

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Speaker 2: that was.

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Speaker 3: A call to arms. Did you hear what he said?

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Speaker 3: He said?

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Speaker 2: He said, God, we can't afford to lose a single

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis resident.

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Speaker 3: To an incident where someone shows up to protect their neighbors,

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Speaker 3: protect their neighbors from what. Sir. By the way, I

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Speaker 3: don't ever.

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Speaker 2: See your pasty behind out there talking about protecting your

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Speaker 2: neighbors from them from the illegal alien criminals in their

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Speaker 2: midst from the illegal aliens raping them, stealing from them,

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Speaker 2: from the illegal immigrant gangs. I don't ever see you

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Speaker 2: out there talking about talking about where their neighbors are

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Speaker 2: coming to protect the other neighbors. Get out of here

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Speaker 2: with that. The enemy is inside the gates. Minnesota is

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Speaker 2: a problems. The Somalians are a problem, The Muslims are

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Speaker 2: a problem, and we're gonna have to deal with all

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Speaker 2: of it. We have a real problem with the Muslims

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Speaker 2: because a lot of them are already here legally, they're citizens.

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Speaker 2: Now they're running entire towns in Michigan and yes, Texas

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Speaker 2: and some places in Oklahoma. If we don't come down

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Speaker 2: hard on this right now, we're gonna be Europe.

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Speaker 3: Europe is gone. Europe is lost. Everybody. Europe is lost.

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Speaker 2: We're having these conversations about free speech is dying in

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Speaker 2: the UK. No, it's gone, it's gone. Have you seen

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Speaker 2: the government of the UK. Have you seen the ministry.

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Speaker 2: It's mostly Muslims, it's gone. The purity laws, the blasphemy law,

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Speaker 2: that's all Muslim, that's all Islam. It gets recouched as dei,

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Speaker 2: as wokeness, it's all Islam. We're gonna have to make

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Speaker 2: some really tough decisions here. Islam is not compatible with

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Speaker 2: the West. That's not to say that Muslims have no

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Speaker 2: place in this art don't belong in this country. I

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Speaker 2: don't believe Islam has a place in America, to be honest,

795
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Speaker 2: there's none for it here.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean Muslims don't belong here, because we

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Speaker 2: welcome all kinds of people that believe all kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: But those people have to be American, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know many Muslims who are American person and Muslim.

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Speaker 3: Second, and the great thing about being a.

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Speaker 2: Christian, even a Jew, is that you can be an

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Speaker 2: American and you can be both, Right, they go together

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Speaker 2: because the Gospel of Christ and the Gospel of liberty are.

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Speaker 3: The same thing.

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Speaker 2: But Islam in America they don't go together because one

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Speaker 2: is the gospel of liberty and the other is the

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Speaker 2: gospel of slavery.

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Speaker 3: So I talked about what it's going to take.

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Speaker 2: It's going to take some, probably some very uncomfortable political actions.

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Speaker 3: Some people are gonna have to get stripped and shipped.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, Yep, We're gonna have to strip some

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Speaker 2: people of their citizenship. And we're allowed to do that too,

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Speaker 2: because we can do whatever we want. This is America,

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Speaker 2: it's our country, and we can do whatever we want.

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Speaker 2: And if we determined that for our safety it's going

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Speaker 2: to be better to strip a bunch of people who

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Speaker 2: don't really belong here and don't even like it here

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Speaker 2: of their citizenship that they gained legally, will do that too.

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Speaker 2: That's what needs to happen. That's what's going to get done.

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Speaker 2: And then the other part of it is revival. That's

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Speaker 2: the spiritual aspect. That's the part that the government has

823
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Speaker 2: no control over and obviously shouldn't, and that's already started.

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Speaker 3: That started the day after Charlie died.

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Speaker 2: Revival is going to push out the Holy Spirit, if

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Speaker 2: you will, and I'm talking church talk now, Sorry about that,

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Speaker 2: but that will push out all of the dark corners

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Speaker 2: right it will be it will be too uncomfortable for

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Speaker 2: ideologies like Islam to root. It'll still be there, but

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Speaker 2: it won't root and spread. That's what revival will do.

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Speaker 2: This is a real problem, and the Minneapolis Mayor's words

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Speaker 2: should concern you. That's a guy who's being held hostage

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Speaker 2: by people who have been who have come from outside

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Speaker 2: the gates, outside of America. These people aren't Americans and

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Speaker 2: running in American city right now, and that should scare

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Speaker 2: us all. So we're gonna have to take care of

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Speaker 2: that too. All of this, all of it at the

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Speaker 2: same time. And once you start putting all of these

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00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: pieces together and connecting all of these threads, you start

840
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Speaker 2: to understand the seriousness of this situation and why Trump

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Speaker 2: is doing what he's doing. Let's take another break. I'm here,

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Speaker 2: Davis's filling it for Tony Kats. You're listening to Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats today. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Marrying Christmas us. I'm Kia Davis. Welcome back to Tony

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Speaker 3: Katz today. Tony is off.

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Speaker 2: I'm your guest host, Kia Davis. I love this song,

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Speaker 2: Little drummer Boy. Where's the little drummer boy come from?

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Speaker 2: And I know I read the b I know there

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Speaker 2: wasn't a drummer boy in the manger.

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Speaker 3: Where did drummer boy come from?

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Speaker 2: And why is he banging a drum around a sleeping baby?

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Speaker 3: That's what I want to know. It's sacrilege.

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Speaker 2: Lest lucky Mary didn't reach out and slap him. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back to Tony Kats today. So glad to have you with

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Speaker 2: us on this Friday, December twenty.

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Speaker 3: Sixth, leading you into.

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Speaker 2: The weekend, this Christmas weekend, and into a new year

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Wow, we've got a lot.

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Speaker 3: On our plate for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: This is you know, we're in the heat of it,

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Speaker 2: and I know everyone's nervous about the midterms, and you

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Speaker 2: should be. I like what I'm seeing coming out of

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party. I think they're starting to understand the

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Speaker 2: need we got to make this a show. And you

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Speaker 2: know what, if it's got to be the Trump Show,

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Speaker 2: so be it. And frankly, I don't think at this

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Speaker 2: juncture we have the luxury of being too fussy about

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Speaker 2: who our representatives are. Whoever's effective, that's who we're going with.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, so far, it's Trump. He's effective.

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Speaker 2: So far, he's been the only one that's been effective.

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Speaker 2: Why is that because we've had lots of fighters out there.

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Speaker 2: What is it about this guy this moment in history

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Speaker 2: that's that's making it effective.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's a combination of the moment in time,

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Speaker 3: the man. Right.

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Speaker 2: Some people just have the it factor. He just has

877
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: the it factor, always has. There's no reason on earth.

878
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: Why Donald Trump should be this internationally known, you know, Playboy.

879
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 3: Look at this guy. He's married to models through the eighties,

880
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: he was a tabloid, fixed sher, He's in every movie

881
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: you watch, TV appearances, Emmy Award winner. You know, there's

882
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 3: no reason.

883
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Why this guy should be as godlike as he is,

884
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: and yet somehow he is pop culture wise, and now

885
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: he's the president. But I think it's also because of

886
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: you and of me, we are at this moment in

887
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 2: time where we can sense that we're at a turning point.

888
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: Covid was zephyr Us Covid. Brett Kavanaugh Justice Brett Kabna

889
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: called COVID a stressed test. He worried when they were

890
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: adjudicating some of these cases vaccine and other cases, he

891
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: said he worried that this looked it was him or Alito,

892
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: one or the other.

893
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: So this looks like a stress test to me. How

894
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 3: far can you push your population into compliance.

895
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: It's not for this, it's for something down the road.

896
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: And I believe that we were had Trump not won.

897
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: That stress test was pretty I think. I think the

898
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: results of that, what we've learned for that, were pretty dominant.

899
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: I was surprised, actually, in the end, I have been

900
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: nicely surprised by how many.

901
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: Americans ultimately rejected.

902
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: But I was very disturbed that it took so many

903
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: people so long, and way too many people bought into

904
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: that cult, way too many along the way. So I

905
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: think what would have happened is we would have continued

906
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: along the censorship route. Biden's the Biden administration, which was

907
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: not Joe Biden, which was somebody else behind him. As

908
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, we're going to get the one

909
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: hundred here.

910
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: This's a second.

911
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: They whoever was running the Biden administration was going to

912
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: finish the job. They were going to throw us all

913
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: the way into slavery, and they were going to do

914
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: it using the COVID protocols for other quote emergencies. We

915
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: were going to have a climate emergency, we were going

916
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: to have a border emergency, right, and then we were

917
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: going to have a gun violence emergency.

918
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: Right.

919
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: They ignored the border, but when they need they were

920
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: gonna need it, and they would declare emergency.

921
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: Then that's when you get to pull out.

922
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: That all the things they're accusing Trump up the National Guard.

923
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: We can't militarize our streets. That's what they were going

924
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: to do. It's just they give themselves away every time.

925
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: Whatever they're complaining about Trump doing, now, that's what they

926
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: were going to do. Remember when it was a Sam

927
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: Altman who said that he's had one of the AI

928
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: companies that I went to Trump. They were working with

929
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: the Biden administration by the tech companies are not our friends.

930
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: They were going to go all the way with the

931
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Biden minists until Biden had put his hands in their pocket.

932
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: And then what did Sam Doue.

933
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: He said, well, they we went to them, we're really

934
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: excited about the future of AI, and they said you

935
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: might as well close your doors to be there's only

936
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: going to be two AI companies in America and they're

937
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: going to be controlled by the government. And that's when

938
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: he was like, well, we can't sign on with this.

939
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: That's the where we were headed. It was a stress test.

940
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: Europe's been running stress tests for decades now, since the

941
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: invention of the European Union. They're lost, they're done, they're cooked.

942
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: Only way out for Europe now is a crusade. Is

943
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: a traditional bloody crusade. That is the only way out

944
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: for them. They're not going to do it otherwise any

945
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: other way. The Islamists owned the government and there's no

946
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: way Reform is kicking ass over there.

947
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 3: Reform is the fastest growing party in the world.

948
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: Like people are sick of it, they're scared, and they

949
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: want help. But I don't think they're gonna let reform win.

950
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: Reform's gonna win. Reform is winning now. But they've got well,

951
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: they've got four years until another real election. But I

952
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: think they can push a snap I think that's what

953
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: they're hoping for. The snap election is gonna come, maybe

954
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: in the next six months to a year, but I

955
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: think it's too late. I hope I'm wrong, but I

956
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: think it's too late. I think even if they have

957
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: a decisive win, it's they're not going to be allowed

958
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: to let it happen. It's armed crusades for them, or

959
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: it's nothing. France is gone, France has lost. They're not

960
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: our allies. We can't depend on them. Listen to McCrone

961
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: talking about Trump bombing the Venezuelan boats or bombing Nigeria.

962
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: By the way, Merry Christmas, Nigerian Islamists.

963
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: Marry Christmas to you. Bomb the hell out of them.

964
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 3: We'll do it again.

965
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: That's where we should be using our bombs, right, that's

966
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: the kind of might America needs to.

967
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: Exact on our real enemies, not.

968
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: Whatever the CIA decides, but the enemy of the West,

969
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: the enemy of God, the enemy of Christmas.

970
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: That's where we should be dropping our bombs. That's who

971
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: we should be keeping out of our country.

972
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't think we should invite anyone into our country

973
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 2: who isn't who is not religiously affiliated with Judaism or Christianity.

974
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: I'll say it again, I don't think we should welcome

975
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: any immigrants into our country who are not officially by there.

976
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: You know, that's obviously that's honor code. But you know

977
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and frankly, you should only be from

978
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: a Christian or Jewish country to get in here.

979
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said it. I'll say it again if you

980
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 3: want me to. I won't.

981
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: That'll be three times, and that's bad radio, repeating myself

982
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: over and over again. I'm getting more hardcore on this,

983
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: but I don't think I'm hardcore. I don't want it

984
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: to be this way. I'm an immigrant, I'm a Canadian immigrant.

985
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to be this way. We wouldn't classify

986
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: Canada as a Christian country right now, so and you know,

987
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: obviously I'm speaking as somebody who's already here and a

988
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: dedicated citizen.

989
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 3: But the situation is.

990
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: So bad now we just don't have the luxury of

991
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: dealing with it lightly or politely, and that is unfortunate.

992
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: And there are very good people from all.

993
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: Parts of the world who don't share our faith then,

994
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: who don't necessarily.

995
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: Share our values, but not all of them deserve to

996
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 3: be here. America's for Americans, all right.

997
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: I'll have more from this after the break. I'm Creed

998
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: David's feeling it for Tony Cats. This is Tony Kats today.

999
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 4: Back.

1000
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm back everybody. Merry Christmas.

1001
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Kats today. I'm your guest house

1002
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Speaker 2: heirat David's billing in for my good friend Tony Kats.

1003
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Hanukkah, all of the

1004
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: good stuff.

1005
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Speaker 3: In the season of life and light.

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1009
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Speaker 2: dot com to find out more for me, my podcast,

1010
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 2: all of the my writing, all of that good stuff.

1011
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna want to stick around.

1012
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: Next hour, I'm going to be interviewing the writer and

1013
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 2: director of this great new movie called Sheep Dog.

1014
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 3: It comes out next month. You are going to want

1015
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: to see this movie. It is a movie.

1016
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: About a Afghanistan bet returning from more and dealing with

1017
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 2: PTSD and how that affects.

1018
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: Him and his family. It's a drama.

1019
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: It's got an all star cast, Academy and Emmy Award

1020
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: winning cast body Curtis Hall, Virginia Madsen. I mean, this

1021
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: is a really good movie and moving, deeply moving shot

1022
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: completely here in the United States. Stephen Graham, the director

1023
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: has agreed to come by the show and tell us

1024
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: about the movie and why he made it and why

1025
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: it's important. So you're going to want to stick around

1026
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: for that.

1027
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 3: We're going to have him at the top of next

1028
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: hour and you won't want to miss that.

1029
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: But I want to play you some clips today. I

1030
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: want to let's talk about Hunter Biden for a minute. Here, Shelly,

1031
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: we were talking about this division now what's happening in

1032
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. This is the same kind of thing

1033
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: that's happening here on the right, which is we're figuring out,

1034
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: you know, who's the entertainers and who are the workers,

1035
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: and we're going to be left with who we need

1036
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: to move forward. But we're wrestling right now in the

1037
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: elites are no longer the voices in charge, and that's

1038
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: confusing for them, and frankly, it's confusing for us too.

1039
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 3: We're used to that. It's why for so long we

1040
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: could look at a guy like George Bush or Mitt

1041
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: Romney or Mike Pence go wow, that's a leader.

1042
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: We all got fooled by those guys, not all of us.

1043
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: Some of you were smarter than me, A lot of us,

1044
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: or you know, you get a little Stockholm syndromes, like, well,

1045
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 2: it's the best we got and he's a good guy.

1046
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: Sure, but we just we got fooled by those guys.

1047
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: They were just they were the elites telling us what

1048
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: we needed to hear to keep us playcated. But as

1049
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: soon as we came up with our own ideas, had

1050
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: our own notions about how things should go, suddenly we're

1051
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: Nazis and traders, right, that's what's happening. So Hunter Biden

1052
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: goes on Sean Ryan Show. Not sure how I feel

1053
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: about Sean Ryan, but he does get interesting interviews. Again,

1054
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: difference between an activist and elitists. A lot of people going, well,

1055
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: Sean didn't really press Hunter Biden. He didn't disagree with him.

1056
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: He did. Sean is not an unto life.

1057
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: Actual he's a former CIA agent who has a pot

1058
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: who mysteriously has a deeply funded podcast. Okay, that's who

1059
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: Sean Ryan is. So you know, be entertained by him. Yes,

1060
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: but he's not speaking for anybody. But it doesn't matter.

1061
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: That's neither here nor there. Hunter was on there and

1062
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: he was talking a bunch of stuff. Let's start with I'll.

1063
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: Start with this clip.

1064
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: Here's Hunter Biden and when you're listening to him, this

1065
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: is him talking about illegal immigrants. I want you to

1066
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: listen to what he's saying, and I want you to

1067
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: ask yourself, what go ahead play?

1068
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden on illegal immigrants.

1069
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 8: A vibrant immigration. But we don't want immigrants that are

1070
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 8: coming here illegally, draining us of resources and also and

1071
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 8: being prioritized above people that are actual literal heroes that

1072
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 8: are coming home, that are that are still recovering from

1073
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 8: twenty one twenty years of endless war, or anybody else

1074
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 8: in our society, right, but nobody's everybody's talking about.

1075
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, to hear Hunter and Personal, you're like, this

1076
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: guy is not sober. His at least his brain has

1077
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: been addled by years of drug use.

1078
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: But all of that humming and that, you know, twenty years.

1079
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: You might think that he's flighty or spacy, or addicted

1080
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: or in recovery.

1081
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: It's none of that.

1082
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden is not a real person. He's not been

1083
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: allowed to be a real person. That's why he does

1084
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: drugs to cover up the emptiness in his soul. He's

1085
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: not been allowed to have a real life and a

1086
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: real internal life because in the Biden family, you don't.

1087
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: Everything in the Biden family is about Dat, It's about Joe.

1088
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: And so you're watching. What you're hearing on radio is

1089
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: a robot. You're hearing a guy reaching for the programming.

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Speaker 2: How do normal people talk about this issue? I don't

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Speaker 2: care about it because I don't have to care about

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Speaker 2: illegal anything. I can do whatever I want and always have.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't care about it, he doesn't think about it.

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: So he's searching for the phrases and words that normal

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Speaker 2: people use.

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01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: To talk about this. That's why it sounds so weird.

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01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: That's what twenty years and you notice he goes in

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Speaker 2: for confirmation with Sean Ryan. He goes, right, right, I

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: do that with you a lot, right, I do? That's

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Speaker 2: me just checking in you with me. It's like the

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Speaker 2: pastor going Ahi, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Don't hear me?

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 4: Now?

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01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Give me a name? Man? That's right?

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Speaker 3: You with me? That's Hunter going to Sean.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: Do you believe this? Do you believe what I'm saying

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: right now?

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: So a lot of this is just Hunter searching for

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Speaker 2: the programming, downloading, downloading.

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Speaker 3: How do normal people talk? I don't know. I think

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Speaker 3: this is how they talk by.

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Speaker 2: The way if he wasn't so gross and we didn't

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01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: know already how gross he is, I do think he

1115
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: could evail himself of his father's charm.

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01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: Biden back in the day had charm. This is how

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: he got to where he is. He's not an.

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: Idiot he is now, but he wasn't always so. And

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Speaker 2: I think I think Hunter has inherited some of that.

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Speaker 2: But he's just working against the truth, which is that

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Speaker 2: we all know how gross and disgusting he is. But

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Speaker 2: I want to play this other clip and then I'll

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: connect the two. But I want to play this clip

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Speaker 2: Hunter talking to Seanrai in same interview about the withdrawal

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Speaker 2: from Afghanistan and what a mess he thought it was.

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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and play that clips.

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Speaker 8: Them and he and he had mistakes, like every other

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Speaker 8: president said, some that I may disagree with, but absolutely

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Speaker 8: one hundred percent had some real failures.

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Speaker 3: Also, what do you think some of those failures were.

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Speaker 8: I think the failure one of the failures was the

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Speaker 8: way in which they executed the withdrawal from Afghanistan. I

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01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 8: think it was an obvious failure. I think thirteen marines

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01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 8: or I think that there was a better way to

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Speaker 8: do it, and I think that and I can blame

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01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 8: it on his generals. I can blame it on the people,

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01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 8: the way in which.

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Speaker 5: We did it.

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Speaker 8: But my dad always knew this Also is that the

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Speaker 8: buck stops with him. I think that that was a failure.

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 8: I don't think leaving Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why is Hunter Biden out here throwing his dad

1143
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: under the bus?

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 3: Isn't that weird?

1145
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: So I wanted to put these two clips together, Hunter

1146
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: Biden searching for the programming to talk competently about illegal immigration,

1147
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: Hunter Biding and Biden admitting his dad made some mistakes

1148
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: and that withdrawal from Afghanistan was a disaster and people died.

1149
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, Did you catch what else?

1150
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 3: He said? I disagreed some of the decisions. I disagreed

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01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 3: with what's he doing? Do you think I know what

1152
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: I think? I think he's running and I know I

1153
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 3: know you're going, Kia, get out of here.

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: How like that's like saying, you know, Kamala is considering

1155
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: running in twenty eight and it blows.

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01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 3: Your mind to think that she would even have the

1157
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: audacity to suggest it after what she did to this

1158
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: country for three months last year.

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Speaker 2: But if you watch this whole interview. You'll see and

1160
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: I might even have a clip at this, but you'll

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 2: hear Hunter talking about him and he's broke.

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01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: He's selling a book. I don't know if you're going

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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,479
Speaker 3: to buy the book. I doubt it. It doesn't matter.

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: He got the book bonus. That's what it's for. He

1165
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: is selling a book and he says, I'm broke. I

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01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: have all these legal fees. I don't have.

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Speaker 3: The Biden family doesn't have a.

1168
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: Vault of billions of dollars burying underneath our house in Delaware.

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Speaker 3: I believe him.

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Speaker 2: We look at people like that, we think, what are

1171
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: you complaining about your rich You've always been rich. No,

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: these people are not rich. They're wealthy. And wealth is

1173
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: different than having.

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: A lot of money in the bank.

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Speaker 2: They have wealth, right, They have a wealth of influence,

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: a wealth of connections, a wealth of assets.

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Speaker 3: But they don't have a wealth of cash. They live

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Speaker 3: paycheck to paycheck. Their paychecks are just bigger than the

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Speaker 3: rest of us. So he the paychecks have not coming.

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Speaker 2: In from some charge. There's no more cutouts for the

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01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: big guy. They are broke, you understand me. They are broke,

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01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: and what do they do what's the family business. They

1183
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: don't make anything, they don't run anything.

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden tried the modern art grift for a second,

1185
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: but that depends on wealthy connections, because that's just a

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01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: political grift. That's money laundering. Well, you have to know

1187
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: the money launderers. The money launderers don't want anything to

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01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: do with the Bidens anymore. They're dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Puts on a non grada over there. Nobody wants nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with those people. And Hunter knows this, So

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: What do you do?

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: All he has is politics, All the family has is politics.

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01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: All of their influences politics, doctor Jill Biden.

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01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: What does doctor Jill Biden do?

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: Teach anyone, heal anyone, write anything, research anything.

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: What does Hunter do besides work for his dad? And

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 3: what does his dad do? He's a professional politician. This

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Speaker 3: is Hunter has no other choice but to run for office.

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 3: He's running. He's running, and he's trying to moderate. He's

1201
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: trying to get head of the news cycle. So he's

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01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: doing this. A book is how you start. You always

1203
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: start with the book.

1204
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: You write a book, try to make people feel sympathy

1205
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 2: towards you. Talks about his terrible childhood, blah blah blah.

1206
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: Then you got a distance right because us is thing

1207
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: Cammy didn't do. She didn't distance herself from the Biden

1208
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: administration well enough or clearly enough. And I read her

1209
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: book back. I'm sitting looking at this book right now,

1210
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and seven days.

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: So I think he's running. I don't know what you think.

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 5: Hit me.

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01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm on next and let me know. Kira Davis, I

1214
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: gotta go to a break. When we come back, we'll

1215
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: have a lot more. I'm actually going to pay play

1216
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: another clip from this Hunter interview.

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: Too good not to.

1218
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Speaker 2: I'm Cia David's sitting in for Tony Katz and this

1219
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Marry.

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01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: Christmas, Happy New Year, Welcome back to Tony Katz Today.

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: I'm your guest host, Kira David, stillium for my friend

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01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: Tony Kats. Happy hanaka everybody. So it's Kwanza two cats.

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: We don't count Kusa.

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01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 3: It's so dumb. It's so dumb, you guys.

1226
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm just starting to realize how dumb everything's been for

1227
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: so long.

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01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 3: We just let the nerds bully us. We've been letting

1229
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: the nerds bully us. Body positivity and Kwanza and diversity

1230
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: and all this stuff.

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01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: You know, and take it from a nerd, Take it

1232
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: from a loser nerd. I promise you that's who I

1233
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: am because you don't get into you don't get to

1234
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: get into entertainment and radio if you don't have some

1235
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: deep like personality wounds.

1236
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: Right, It's like it's like being a comedian. You have

1237
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 3: to have some kind of childhood traumas. And believe me,

1238
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is I'm one of them, right, I'm

1239
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 3: the loser. I'm the nerd.

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Speaker 2: It's why it was a liberal for so long, because

1241
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: my liberalism was a way to balance the scales against

1242
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: all those cool kids.

1243
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 3: But now I get it. Right Now, I'm a cool kid.

1244
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: And being a cool kid isn't about how you look

1245
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: or the clothes you wear. It helps, it helps, but

1246
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: you know, that's not what it is. It's attitude. Being

1247
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: am that's cool. That's where I'm at.

1248
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 5: Now.

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: We've been talking about Hunter Biden, about everything that's going on,

1250
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: and this is I think the overall theme of this

1251
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: show for me is.

1252
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: It's time to start seeing and telling the truth. I

1253
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: really do.

1254
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: I think we need to start saying things out loud

1255
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: again and I know we stopped.

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01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 3: That's what the whole Karen thing is about too.

1257
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,919
Speaker 2: It's fun because while we like the Karen memes because

1258
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 2: it's mostly left.

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 3: Wingers who are Karens.

1260
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Speaker 2: But what it also does is it makes us reticent

1261
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: to call out trouble or to call out wrong behavior.

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 3: And the DEI came to and all these cultures came,

1263
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 3: and we look around and we see people from third

1264
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: world countries doing very strange foreign and frankly discussing things

1265
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 3: like animal sacrifice in our towns. And we see all that,

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 3: and we we.

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't want to say anything because diversity

1268
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: is our strength. Right Frankly, I can't believe, you know,

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01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this. I can't believe I'm

1270
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: saying this as Black American. But I think this is

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 2: where we are. But Frankly, I think there is something

1272
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 2: to the idea that if you're different, you get pushed out,

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: or you at least get marginalized. Because what happens is

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01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: you have to prove yourself to the body, right if

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01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 2: you want to if the organism wants to be accepted

1276
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 2: by the body, you got to become like the body.

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm starting to understand this, and I'm telling you this

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: as an outsider. Do you know my entire life has

1279
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: been outsider status. I'm mixed race, I'm Canadian and American,

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01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: I'm a Christian. I live in California. I don't fit

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: into any box.

1282
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 3: I've been. I'm a loser, and frankly, now I feel

1283
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 3: like a winner. I've been all, I've been them all.

1284
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: I know what it means to be an outsider, and

1285
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: I know what it means to never fit in and

1286
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 2: not be welcomed.

1287
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 3: And I still think that has a place.

1288
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: I actually think that has a place because it makes you,

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: as the outsider, need to conform to the standards of

1290
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: the body, or at least figure out how to live

1291
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: peacefully with it so you don't cause.

1292
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 3: A lot of trouble. You mind your own business. That's

1293
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 3: what assimilation is. But we're not doing that right now.

1294
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 3: Maybe we need to read, We need.

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: Our ability to look at the bodies coming from the

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01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: outside and say, no, this organism is not welcome in

1297
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: the body. You're an infection, not another sell to come

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 2: help do.

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Speaker 3: The work, all right, don't go anywing.

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Speaker 2: And I want to hear this interview next hour Stephen Graham,

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01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: director of Sheep Dog the movie. Incredible movie, incredible man,

1302
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere.

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: Can't wait to talk to him.

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01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm Kara Davis feeling in for Tony Katz and this

1305
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 2: is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from the Hartlier and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, welcome back to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest

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Speaker 2: host for today, Kira Davis, and I'm really excited for

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Speaker 2: this next segment because.

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Speaker 3: I saw.

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Speaker 2: I saw a press release come across my wires for

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Speaker 2: this movie, and immediately it piqued my interest and I

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Speaker 2: wanted to talk to this guy. But before I introduce

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Speaker 2: our next guest, I want to read you about this movie. Now.

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Speaker 2: It's the holiday season and we're talking a lot about warm.

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Speaker 3: Feelings, family, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole segment of our population, of our society

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Speaker 2: that has gone off to fight for our right to

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Speaker 2: celebrate together and to be together. And when they come home,

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Speaker 2: they come home with wounds and a lot of it

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Speaker 2: is invisible.

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Speaker 3: And so this is what really interested me about this film.

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Speaker 2: It is called Sheep Dog, and I want to read

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Speaker 2: you the breakdown of it. Decorated US Army combat veteran

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Speaker 2: Calvin Cole is court ordered into treatment and into the

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Speaker 2: care of a VA trauma therapist in training who works

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Speaker 2: the night shift at a local diner to pay for college.

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Speaker 2: Things become even more complicated when Calvin's father in law

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Speaker 2: and retired that shows up on his doorstep doorstep, having

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Speaker 2: just been released from prison. As Calvin's plan to run

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Speaker 2: away from his life becomes impossible, he learns through support

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Speaker 2: from his community, tough love, and compassion, that he must

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Speaker 2: put himself back together again and for his family, for

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Speaker 2: his family, and for himself. This film was shot on

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Speaker 2: location in western Massachusetts, one hundred percent America, Maide, and

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Speaker 2: I am so thrilled to welcome to TOTS today the writer, director,

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Speaker 2: and actor Stephen Graham. Stephen, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: joining us today, Welcome to the show. Congratulations on your film.

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Speaker 5: Wow, what an introduction, Thank you, thank you so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we are just tremendously proud of how it turned out.

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Speaker 5: And as you said, yes, shot on location in western Massachusetts.

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Speaker 5: We were very honored to hire and train seventeen military

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Speaker 5: veterans in five gold Star family members throughout the production

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Speaker 5: of Sheep Dog. There's no CGI. These are all real locations.

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Speaker 5: We shot it in a small paper mill town, hired

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Speaker 5: a lot of the local people. Again many of them

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Speaker 5: were veterans, and you know, we were able to capture

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Speaker 5: the heart and soul of what I had seen and

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Speaker 5: witnessed in my research and development across the country on

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Speaker 5: this fourteen year journey. So thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you said, you say in your bio as was

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Speaker 2: reading a little bit about the movie that you did this.

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Speaker 2: You actually research, You talk to psychologists, you talk to

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Speaker 2: men and women who had come back from combat. This

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Speaker 2: wasn't just sort of a fly by night project. Tell

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Speaker 2: me a little bit about why you did this. By

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Speaker 2: the way, I want to encourage everyone to hang on

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Speaker 2: to the end of the segment because I'm going to

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Speaker 2: play a little clip from the trailer to pick you

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Speaker 2: out to commercial break. But you can see this trailer

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Speaker 2: of the movie A Sheep Dog on YouTube right now.

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Speaker 2: You need to go watch it because I know you're

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Speaker 2: listening to Steven talking. You're thinking this is like a

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Speaker 2: nice little that veterans movie to celebrate our vets. No,

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Speaker 2: this is a real legit film. It's gotten readible casts.

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Speaker 2: Some of my favorites are in it. Bondi Curtis Hall, Stephen.

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Speaker 2: I was convinced for about twenty years that I was

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Speaker 2: going to name my first son Bondi Curtis Hall.

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Speaker 5: Wow. Well, let me tell you. Vondi revealed on our

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Speaker 5: press tour recently that Bondy Bondi's father's name is kurt

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Speaker 5: Curtis Hall. Bondi's father was saved by a fellow American

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Speaker 5: soldier in World War Two, and the man who saved

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Speaker 5: his life was Vondi and that's how he was named

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Speaker 5: Vondi Critis Hall. So yeah, pretty incredible, kind is blown.

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Speaker 2: I loved his name forever forever. I'm a former theater

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Speaker 2: kid myself, so I love I love him.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I feel like I got like some

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Speaker 3: inside knowledge.

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Speaker 5: And he's a revelation in the film. I mean, he

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Speaker 5: plays a Vietnam veteran and he grew up in the

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Speaker 5: in the Vietnam era, Vietnam War era, and so you know,

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Speaker 5: he he was touched by personal experience. You know, he

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Speaker 5: having friends that that didn't make it home and having

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Speaker 5: friends that did make it at home, one of which is

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Speaker 5: currently battling cancer from Agent Orange from from you know,

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Speaker 5: from one of his tours in Vietnam, so you know,

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Speaker 5: he came, became hungry, and and he and he just

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Speaker 5: it's just such a stunning performance. And I was able

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Speaker 5: to just going back to the research and development in

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Speaker 5: writing the screenplay I did. I did multiple honor flights

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Speaker 5: to from out of Austin to d C, where you know,

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Speaker 5: you you chaperone World War two and Vietnam veterans to

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Speaker 5: their respective memorials in d C. So if you're if

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Speaker 5: you have the good fortune to be invited down to

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Speaker 5: the hotel lobby bar at night in d C after

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Speaker 5: you've spent a day at the memorials and you get

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Speaker 5: to have a whiskey with these veterans. So much of

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Speaker 5: what was shared with me informed his character, and I

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Speaker 5: think it just speaks to the authenticity I was. I

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Speaker 5: was very lucky that the community, it took years to

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Speaker 5: build the trust, but the veteran, the military and mental

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Speaker 5: health community to trust me. I had an office for

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Speaker 5: years at the VA Medical Center in Detroit, and I

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Speaker 5: met with hundreds and hundreds of folks. I did role

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Speaker 5: playing with neurologists, neurosych collegist trauma therapists. As you'll see

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Speaker 5: in the film, we show different treatments like EMDR, prolonged exposure.

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Speaker 5: But I want folks to know that are listening, this

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Speaker 5: is not a post traumatic stress movie. This is a

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Speaker 5: post traumatic growth movie. I take the audience to those

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Speaker 5: places of darkness, but I also show them the light.

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Speaker 5: And that's really important, especially for those listening, especially during

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Speaker 5: the holidays. It can be a very difficult time for folks,

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Speaker 5: and it's really important that they know that they're not

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Speaker 5: alone and that they matter. And if you're struggling or

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Speaker 5: you're suffering in silence, you don't have to do that alone.

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Speaker 5: And it's okay to not be okay. So Sheet Dog

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Speaker 5: comes out nationwide in theaters January sixteenth. It's a very

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Speaker 5: emotional and communal experience. We've seen it firsthand on the

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Speaker 5: film festival circuit. We've had Vietnam veterans and tears that

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Speaker 5: have stood up in front of a full auditorium of

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Speaker 5: people saying, I finally feel seen and heard. You guys

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Speaker 5: all it OIF and OEF veterans that have said to us,

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Speaker 5: I wish I had this film ten fifteen years ago

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Speaker 5: to show my family, you know, so for them to

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Speaker 5: understand why I am the way I am, but why

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Speaker 5: they are the way they are, and.

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Speaker 2: And it's good why they are they are.

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Speaker 5: Too, Yes, because this is it's a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's not just the person who goes to combats.

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Speaker 2: It's everybody they come home too. It's the whole life.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we pay enough attention to that or

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Speaker 2: understand even how it affects each person in the family,

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Speaker 2: not just the person who went and had the experience.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that that's that's really important for

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Speaker 5: folks to know. It's that, you know, I'm married into

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Speaker 5: a military family and my one of my both brothers

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Speaker 5: in laws are combat veterans, and one of them was

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Speaker 5: just recently deployed in twenty sixteen to Afghanistan. And I

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Speaker 5: have lived through with the family of what it's like

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Speaker 5: on baited breath, you know, when you're gone nine months

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Speaker 5: and it's extremely stressful. And I think that that's our

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Speaker 5: movie highlights that that it's the families. There's a ripple effect.

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Speaker 5: It's the families that have also committed to service and sacrifice,

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Speaker 5: and then the communities that support them. And that's what

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Speaker 5: this film is about. It's you know, it's a film

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Speaker 5: that I just hadn't seen from my generation, and i'd

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Speaker 5: just never seen a film pick up with our veterans

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Speaker 5: ten years after their last deployment, right because there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of life that's lived in that, you know, And

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Speaker 5: i'd seen that from when I started my research in

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Speaker 5: twenty eleven. As I got older as the screenwriter, so

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Speaker 5: did the character I was going to play. And that

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Speaker 5: was a gift onto itself because I still stay in

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Speaker 5: contact with many of the folks that I interviewed, and

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Speaker 5: I got to see their challenges and triumphs over the

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Speaker 5: last decade. And it's really it's reflected in the film

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Speaker 5: and I'm just I just couldn't be, you know, more

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Speaker 5: proud of it.

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Speaker 3: Steven, let me ask you.

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Speaker 2: I want you to talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 2: film itself. Tell me about your cast, Tell me about

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Speaker 2: the idea that this was shot all on location. Who's

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Speaker 2: making movies all in America anymore? You know, no one

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Speaker 2: knowing that anymore. Talk about that, and talk about what

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Speaker 2: people if they choose to go see this at the theater,

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Speaker 2: which I think you absolutely should, And we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that before I let you go, but talk about that.

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Speaker 3: If they choose to go see this, what are they

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Speaker 3: going to.

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Speaker 2: Get are they getting are they just getting a morality tail?

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Speaker 3: Are they getting a morality lesson? What is this movie?

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Speaker 2: Because I can tell you, Steven that a lot of

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Speaker 2: people listening to this show are thinking, well, I've seen

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Speaker 2: movies like this in the past, and everyone's got good intentions,

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Speaker 2: but they're never really that entertaining.

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Speaker 3: It's not something I want to drop my money on.

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Speaker 5: So tell people, and that's understandable, especially in this day

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Speaker 5: and age, the average movie ticket price is fifteen dollar

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Speaker 5: and leaving your house post COVID, you know our behavioral

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Speaker 5: patterns have changed. I can only tell you what I've

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Speaker 5: experienced over the last year. We screened at more than

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Speaker 5: twelve or thirteen film festivals entirely sold out run across

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Speaker 5: the country, which we were very humbled and blessed by.

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Speaker 5: And I think the testament to that is the quality

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Speaker 5: of the film. You know, I didn't do it alone.

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Speaker 5: I did you know. I had an incredible team, as

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Speaker 5: you said, already an incredible cast. Academy Award nominee Virginia

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Speaker 5: Manson plays my trauma therapist in the film, as you've

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Speaker 5: already said, Emmy nominee Vondi. Curtis Hall plays a Vietnam

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Speaker 5: veteran dominic Famussa who some folks might know from Dexter

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Speaker 5: or Nurse Betty, who was also in the Michael Bay

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Speaker 5: Thirteen Hours movie on Benghazi. He plays my hockey coach

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Speaker 5: turned cop, Lily Cooper. She plays my wife in the film.

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Speaker 5: She's a Tony nominee. She came and this is it

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Speaker 5: came to set just just a stunning performance. I mean

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Speaker 5: she he's a Broadway actress. And then of course Matt

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Speaker 5: Dallas plays my best friend. And Matt did a lot

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Speaker 5: of the research with me when I was writing the screenplay,

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Speaker 5: so Matt himself witnessed firsthand what this looks like. Here's

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Speaker 5: the thing, here's what separates us from anything you've ever seen,

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Speaker 5: the dedication that we in love and care and responsibility

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Speaker 5: that we put into this. When people ask us on

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Speaker 5: a fourteen year journey, what's the most important or what

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Speaker 5: was the hardest thing for you, guys, you must have

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Speaker 5: wanted to put Of course, there were so many challenges,

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Speaker 5: so many but the biggest challenge was getting it right

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Speaker 5: on behalf of the folks that were representing on screen,

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Speaker 5: and that we hope we did. And from the response,

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Speaker 5: the profound response as I said, we've received on the

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Speaker 5: festival circuit, I believe we've done it. The other thing, too,

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Speaker 5: is that I didn't want at any point I didn't

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Speaker 5: need to play the lead character. I could have went

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Speaker 5: and got a big Hollywood movie star. It would have

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Speaker 5: made my life a lot easier in terms of funding

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Speaker 5: and all the things that come with the benefits of that.

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01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 5: But I didn't want an actor to show up with

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01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 5: having the script, you know, three weeks prior to going

1519
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 5: to camera to filming, and just give me their rendition

1520
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 5: of what they think it is. I wanted to show

1521
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 5: an audience what I know it is, what I saw

1522
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 5: what it is, and as the storyteller, our job, the

1523
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 5: best job we can do is to hold the mirror up.

1524
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 5: You know, when I wrote the characters, I didn't judge

1525
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 5: these characters. I just I just wanted to show a

1526
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 5: reflection of what I saw across the country. And I

1527
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 5: promise you people that are listening, if you had the

1528
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 5: good fortune to travel the country the way I did

1529
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 5: and go into people's living rooms of all different walks

1530
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 5: of life across this country. It's just an incredible, incredible

1531
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 5: experience and it made me love this country even more.

1532
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 5: And it's so incredibly humbling to see that service and

1533
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 5: sacrifice and see those communities come together. It's an entertaining film.

1534
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 5: There's tons of humor in it. There's a lot of

1535
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 5: different plot twists in it, but the most important thing

1536
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 5: is it is authentic to the plight of our veterans

1537
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 5: and their families.

1538
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 3: We're talking to Stephen Graham.

1539
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: He is the writer, director, and actor for Sheep Dog

1540
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 2: the Movie. You can go find that at Cheapdog themovie

1541
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 2: dot com. Stephen, what happens next with this film? How

1542
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: can people go see it?

1543
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 3: Where? Sholl us everything?

1544
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 5: Sure? Okay, So, first off, just like you said, visit

1545
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 5: us at Cheapdog themovie dot com. If you would like

1546
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,839
Speaker 5: to buy out a theater and take your friends, your family,

1547
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 5: your community, there's a link there. There's also if you're

1548
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 5: somebody who'd like to pay it forward. We've partnered with Vettics,

1549
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 5: So if you're a veteran, a first responder, you can

1550
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 5: go to vettics dot org and you sign up and

1551
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 5: you can be eligible for free tickets up to four

1552
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 5: per person. This is the first time that vet tics

1553
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 5: has ever partnered with a film, so if you again

1554
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 5: you want to sign up there, or you can go

1555
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 5: to shoot Dog themovie dot com and you can pay

1556
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 5: it forward and send veterans first responders to their families.

1557
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 5: Tickets will go on sale early early January on Fandango,

1558
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 5: so it's a nationwide release, so just find your local

1559
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 5: theater on there. We also, i'd love to just we

1560
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 5: haven't formally announced it, but here we go. We have

1561
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 5: a fans store, which is for Sheep Dog Merch on

1562
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 5: the Fandango store. We're very lucky because we're I think

1563
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 5: we're bookended by Jaws and back to the futures, so

1564
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 5: you don't get that very often. And and uh and

1565
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 5: the tagline for the film is sometimes we have to

1566
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 5: fall apart to find ourselves all over again. And that's

1567
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 5: on the merch and and and don't we all And

1568
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 5: you know, we're very interactive on our social media, so please,

1569
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 5: you know, go to Instagram Sheep Dog the Movie, you know,

1570
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 5: or Twitter or Facebook. We'd love to hear your thoughts,

1571
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 5: even your thoughts on the trailer that's out there right now.

1572
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 5: And just just know that we're just so grateful and

1573
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 5: honored to have the opportunity to tell this story, this

1574
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:16,839
Speaker 5: American made story.

1575
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 2: We're honored that you stop by to talk to us

1576
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: about this. Thank you for making it, thank you for

1577
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: honoring this wonderful, you know, American story. It really is

1578
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: an American story, and we wish you the best. Happy

1579
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: Holidays and Merry Christmas to you and yours. Stephen Graham,

1580
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: Sheep Dog the Movie go to sheep Dog themovie dot com.

1581
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: Make sure you go support this and even if you're

1582
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: not going to go see it, maybe you're going to

1583
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:45,839
Speaker 2: pay it forward for our fellow Americans. Thank you, Steven,

1584
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 2: Happy holidays.

1585
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 5: Merry Christmas, God blessed. Thank you so much, God blessed.

1586
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: We'll be back after this. Don't go anywhere.

1587
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm Curre Davis filling in for Tony Kats and this

1588
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back everybody, Tony Corks today.

1589
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm Kia Davis back again with you. Thank you so

1590
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 3: much to Stephen Braham for stopping by the show to

1591
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: talk about his movie. I know it was a long interview,

1592
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 3: but I just wanted to give him all the opportunity

1593
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 3: to talk about what they were doing.

1594
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: And again before we went to our interview with Steven, again,

1595
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: thank you God bless you out there.

1596
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 3: Steven.

1597
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: Make sure you go get the tickets for that movie

1598
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 2: and see if you can get it.

1599
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 3: To a theater near you.

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01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: But I again, before we're talking, before the break, one

1601
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: of the things I said was we have to start

1602
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: doing the things, saying the things out loud. Have you

1603
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: ever noticed that your movies and TVs, it's hard to

1604
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: find heroes anymore. You don't find those, you don't find

1605
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: good people. Everything's so nuanced and there's gray areas, and

1606
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: you know you don't have your heroes. Aren't just blatant

1607
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: heroes anymore, theros affected or you know, sullen or something

1608
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: you know, and the anti hero. And we don't want that,

1609
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: particularly in the season of Christmas. Is Christmas Season is

1610
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 2: the greatest superhero story of all time.

1611
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 3: And it's black and white. It's clear, there's no nuance.

1612
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 3: The world was in darkness and then came Jesus, and

1613
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 3: then it was in light and this is the Savior,

1614
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 3: This is the only savior.

1615
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 2: It's black and white. There's evil and there's good, and

1616
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: people can look at that and you can say. Maybe

1617
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: you can say, like, no, I don't want to be

1618
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: on the side of baby Jesus, I'm not into it.

1619
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: But you know what you're looking at, and you know

1620
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 2: what you're saying no to. But what Hollywood is giving

1621
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 2: us lately is a bunch of slop and with no

1622
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 2: point of view. It's all, well, you decide what a

1623
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 2: hero is. We don't want that. That's not how humans

1624
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 2: are primed. We want real stories of real people. And

1625
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 2: I don't mean authentic, because a superhero isn't a real person.

1626
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: But every story reflects reality in some way. Every story

1627
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: reflects the real gen and struggle of human nature. And

1628
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 2: lately we've been handing over our entertainment to gen z

1629
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: weirdos for lack of a better work term, who have

1630
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: grown up with no dads, no concept of gender, no

1631
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 2: concept of patriotism, and no religion. They're writing what they know,

1632
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 2: and what they know is nothing, and that's what you're getting.

1633
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: So when we have a guy like Stephen on the show,

1634
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: it's not just, you know, a nice thing to do

1635
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,839
Speaker 2: to let this beautiful film get breathe and gets mayors.

1636
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 2: That's not what it is. It's that, yes, But Also,

1637
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: it's us going. Here's some real stories. Let's get the

1638
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 2: real stories back out there, stories of our real hero

1639
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 2: stories about what they struggle with.

1640
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 3: The reason why everything.

1641
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: You see on TV has a gay or trans person

1642
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 2: in it or trans couple are so preachy is because

1643
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: they want you to see those stories, and they want

1644
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: those stories to be normalized for you.

1645
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 3: So let's normalize stories like Steven's stories.

1646
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Again, we used to That's where we used to find

1647
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: out about these struggles these people.

1648
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 3: This is where you know, when we lived in a.

1649
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 2: Society that was highly segregated film and entertainment.

1650
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:21,480
Speaker 3: Let us peek.

1651
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 2: Into the other side, into the other world, told the

1652
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 2: stories of our fellow Americans.

1653
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Let's get back to that. No more nuance. Let's just

1654
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,839
Speaker 3: get some heroes and tell the real heroes journey.

1655
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: So thank you Stephen for doing that good work out there.

1656
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 2: Make sure you go see sheep Dog. All right, Yeah,

1657
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: got to take another break. I know it's quick, but

1658
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 2: this is how it's going today. I got a lot

1659
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: more in the last half hour of the show.

1660
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. I'm here.

1661
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: Davia's feeling it for Tony Katz and you're listening to

1662
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today.

1663
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody too, Tony Kats Today. I am your

1664
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 3: guest host Kia David. We are wrapping up the show,

1665
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 3: winding down in our final half hour. That bumper. I

1666
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: believe that was one of Rush Limba's favorite songs.

1667
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 2: All right, Peter, Rush the great One, the reason we're here,

1668
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm on this mic, why Tony's on

1669
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 2: his mic, Rush Limba the Goat.

1670
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 3: We honor you today, sir well. I was reading online.

1671
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 3: I was looking for some Christmas advice.

1672
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to do some Christmas advice top to close

1673
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 2: out the show. I did find some interesting stuff, but

1674
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: something a post I came across.

1675
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, I want to share this with the audience.

1676
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: See what you think.

1677
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: This is a little bit of light advice. Let's see,

1678
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: let's see what you think. This is a wedding I

1679
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 2: love the wedding questions, and I think this bride has

1680
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 2: an interesting question, she says. My future mother in law

1681
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 2: just informed me that she paid over one thousand dollars

1682
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: for this light pink beaded dress and plans to wear

1683
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 2: it to our wedding next week. And the dresses it's

1684
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: light pink, it's beautiful. It's actually a beautiful mother in

1685
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 2: law dress. She's posted a picture of it, but unfortunately,

1686
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 2: the bride says, it'll be completely ignoring our navy blue

1687
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 2: because we want the mothers to be our something blue.

1688
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 3: Conversation from months ago.

1689
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 2: So this bride wants to put the moms in blue, ripe,

1690
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 2: something borrowed.

1691
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 3: Something blue. I think that's really cute. Actually, what a

1692
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 3: cute idea.

1693
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 2: They want the moms to be something in blue. When

1694
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 2: I gently reminded, and I'm going to guess that the

1695
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: bride's color scheme is pink. That's what I'm gonna guess.

1696
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get, she doesn't say, but I'm gonna guess

1697
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: it's pink. When I gently reminded her about the color scheme,

1698
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 2: she got defensive and said, well, your family can be

1699
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 2: in blue, like this is some kind of competition between

1700
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 2: the mothers instead of a wedding where we hoped everyone

1701
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 2: will follow the plan. Now I'm stuck wondering if I

1702
01:32:56,200 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 2: should buy my own mother a matching pink dress so

1703
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: she doesn't feel underdressed, or if that makes me the

1704
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,719
Speaker 2: crazy one for enabling this whole situation. I've already found

1705
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 2: the perfect secondhand formal dress online that would match his

1706
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: mother's style and price range. And I'm sitting here debating

1707
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: whether spending money I don't have on a dress my

1708
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 2: mom doesn't even want it's worth keeping the peace at

1709
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 2: my wedding. Part of me thinks I should just let

1710
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 2: it go and have mismatched mothers. What the other part

1711
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,719
Speaker 2: of me knows my mom will feel self conscious standing

1712
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 2: next to someone in a thousand dollars gown while she's

1713
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: wearing something from her closet. And honestly, I'm so tired

1714
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 2: of managing everyone else's feelings about my wedding that I

1715
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: might just elope instead. What do you think about that?

1716
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 2: I think there's there underneath the there. I think there's more.

1717
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,919
Speaker 2: You know, it's what It's like a three hundred word post.

1718
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 2: You can't get all of the details of your entire life.

1719
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 2: But if I'm reading between the lines, there's a few

1720
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 2: things going on here. I think the I think the

1721
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: sides of the family are probably mismatched in income. Because

1722
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 2: she's saying, I think my mom's going to feel uncomfortable

1723
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: this mom's wearing an expensive dress. It seemed like the

1724
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 2: price of the dress was almost as offensive to the

1725
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 2: bride as the color, and my mom's going to feel

1726
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 2: awkward and out of place.

1727
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if that's true.

1728
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if that's true, or if it's the daughter

1729
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 2: that's going to feel embarrassed of her mom. I don't know,

1730
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: I really don't, but it makes me wonder the way

1731
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 2: she's worded it the other thing because I'm also thinking,

1732
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 2: and again this could be personality, but I'm thinking, but

1733
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 2: this isn't a bride mom problem.

1734
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 3: This is a son mom problem. Right.

1735
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: Why should your mom feel awkward? She's with the program, right,

1736
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,799
Speaker 2: she's following the direction, she's following the rules.

1737
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 3: Why would she be embarrassed?

1738
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 6: Right?

1739
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,879
Speaker 2: Your mother in law should be embarrassed for not following

1740
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 2: the rules. I also think it's curious that she's not.

1741
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 3: She's not.

1742
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 2: There's no indication that she'd be embarrassed. Again, I'm beginning

1743
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: to think the more I talk this through, that this

1744
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 2: is a class issue that I think the mother in

1745
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: law also.

1746
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 3: Okay, young couples pre married or just married, pay attention

1747
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 3: to me.

1748
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 2: You are responsible for your parents. Okay, you're responsible for

1749
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 2: the relationship between your parents and your spouse.

1750
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 3: So if your.

1751
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Parents are mistreating your spouse or don't get along with

1752
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 2: your fiance, it's you that must settle that issue, not

1753
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 2: your fiance, not your wife. So I want to know

1754
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 2: where husband or groom is and all of this, because

1755
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 2: this is when he should go to his mother and say, no,

1756
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 2: this is my wedding, mom, and this is what I want.

1757
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 5: Lady.

1758
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 3: The more I talk this through, the more I think

1759
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 3: you should just run. You should just run.

1760
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 2: It seems to me that this family does not respect

1761
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 2: you at all. Your fiance doesn't respect you enough to

1762
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 2: stand up to his mother to tell her to wear

1763
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,440
Speaker 2: the damn dress I told.

1764
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 3: You to wear. You know what I mean. That's an

1765
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 3: act of defiance.

1766
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: That's not a woman who's like, well, I don't have

1767
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: anything else to wear. She went out and bought a

1768
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: thousand dollars dress. She has, she's got, she has an

1769
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 2: event in her mind, she has a day in her mind,

1770
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 2: and it doesn't match her daughter in laws. What's gonna

1771
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 2: happen when you have a baby. What's gonna happen when

1772
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 2: you're at your one year anniversary?

1773
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen? Gonna happen when you want to celebrate

1774
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 3: Christmas at your house for the first time. Run, honey, run,

1775
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 3: this is a red flag. But this is a gift.

1776
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 2: This is a gift that your your husband's not going

1777
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: to be there for you when you need him against

1778
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: his family. You're marrying into an organism, wasn't I talking

1779
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 2: about this last hour?

1780
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 3: How I'm starting to understand there's.

1781
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: A place for prejudice and some the idea that you're discriminating.

1782
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 3: I guess right, you have a body, and then you

1783
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 3: have an.

1784
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 2: Outside organism trying to break into the body. And if

1785
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: that organism isn't going to fit into the body, isn't

1786
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 2: going to assimilate into the body, then the organism must

1787
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 2: be pushed out. And families are the same way, particularly

1788
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 2: wealthy families. And I'm starting to understand why too. You know,

1789
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: as you raise and status, you realize, yeah, you are

1790
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: vulnerable to people who want to use you, I think,

1791
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 2: and so I can kind of imagine that the mom.

1792
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: It seems to me that the mom feels that this

1793
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 2: Beyonce does not really belong in the family.

1794
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 3: Actually, I have some acquaintances like this.

1795
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 2: They're very wealthy and very well connected family in California,

1796
01:37:55,240 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 2: and they, you know, they have multiple adult children who

1797
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 2: are married or beginning to marry, and you know, weddings

1798
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 2: planned with them pretty much through the crop. But they

1799
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 2: have a lot they struggle with the spouses and the

1800
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 2: spouses that maintain their identity and trying not to be

1801
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 2: too detailed.

1802
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 3: The spouses who.

1803
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Maintain their personal identity and their personal identity for their

1804
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,799
Speaker 2: own home that they've made, you know, with their new spouse.

1805
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 2: Those spouses get pushed out of the organism. They're not

1806
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 2: really welcome in the family. You don't see them at

1807
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 2: all the events.

1808
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 3: They don't run the business. They're not welcome in the family.

1809
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 2: And the spouses that got with the program are fully assimilated, right,

1810
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 2: and they're part of the organism, and there's a hierarchy

1811
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 2: there and they figured out their place and they accepted it.

1812
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 3: I think like that's what this family sounds like it is.

1813
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 2: And frankly, honey, if don't marry in any family that's

1814
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 2: going to shame you or your family for their circumstances.

1815
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 3: It'd be your family.

1816
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 2: Should be happy to see you, they should be open

1817
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 2: to welcoming you. When I when I got married, my

1818
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 2: mother in law and father in law lived on the

1819
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 2: other side of the block, walk out their back door

1820
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: and into mine. Lived with my husband and Gary, Indiana,

1821
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: And when we got married, I remember and my husband's

1822
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 2: the baby of the family, and I remember my mother

1823
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: in law telling me, I just want you to know

1824
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 2: that he's not my son anymore. He's your husband, and

1825
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 2: this is your home and so I'm never going to

1826
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 2: come over unannounced. I'm not going to act like I

1827
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 2: own the place, and I'm only going to give you

1828
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 2: advice when you ask for it, because this is your

1829
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 2: home and I want to respect it.

1830
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 3: And she always to this day, to this very day,

1831
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 3: she always has and I appreciated that, and it made

1832
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 3: it easier for me to go to her when I

1833
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 3: did need help.

1834
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 2: She honored that. I didn't feel awkward. I didn't have

1835
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 2: to worry about situations like this because I knew I.

1836
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 3: Had a mother in law who's on my side.

1837
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 2: And I also know that you know my Now I

1838
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,799
Speaker 2: get my husband and I have to get into anything

1839
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: between me and his parents, but he would have The

1840
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 2: Bible says when you leave your mother and father and

1841
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 2: you cleave unto your wife, your spouse, you become one

1842
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 2: person that's your family. So honey, if this guy's not

1843
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: standing out for you now for something as simple as

1844
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 2: a wedding dress. By the way, she says, I'm just done.

1845
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 8: With it all.

1846
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of eloping. I think clearly this is not

1847
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 2: the only issue going on. She's getting it from all corners.

1848
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that tells me you're marrying into a high

1849
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 2: maintenance family, honey, and they're gonna not let They're not

1850
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 2: gonna let you run your own family. If you can't

1851
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: run your own wedding, you are not gonna run your

1852
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 2: own family.

1853
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 3: And that is no way for a woman to live.

1854
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 3: Trust me on that one.

1855
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go to one final break and

1856
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 2: we'll come back and wrap up the show. Oh time

1857
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 2: flies when you're having fun, But all good things must

1858
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 2: come to an end.

1859
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 3: But not quite yet. Don't go anywhere.

1860
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm here Davis filling it for Tony Kats and you're

1861
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 2: listening to Tony Kats today.

1862
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 3: No, sorry, we're back, We're back, We're back.

1863
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: I was just I was practicing my Mariah Carey and

1864
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 2: so a lot of people say, I sound just like

1865
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey, the Queen of Christmas. Everybody have you seen

1866
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: her lately? Using Mariah Carey up there.

1867
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 3: On the stage.

1868
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: She's giving you one hundred percent of nothing. She does

1869
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: nothing anymore on stage. She hasn't even walked. She has

1870
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 2: those guys carried. They carry her to this stage and she,

1871
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 2: like you know, wiggles around on her heels a little,

1872
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 2: but she sits now.

1873
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 3: She'll even sit down to sing. She does not care.

1874
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 3: And I'm here for it.

1875
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 2: If you win the title of Queen of Christmas, you

1876
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 2: have earned that type of condescension. Stand up there and

1877
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 2: do nothing, honey, I'm here for all of it. Thank

1878
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 2: you very much for your contribution to Christmas. Well, I'm

1879
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 2: here Davis, filling in for Tony Kats. We're about to

1880
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 2: wrap up the show. I want to get I want

1881
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: to play this clip.

1882
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 3: I want to play one clip real quick because I

1883
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 3: want to say something about this topic as we close

1884
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 3: out the show.

1885
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 2: Let's play this Nick Shirley clip landon. Let's play Nick

1886
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 2: Shirley is an independent reporter. If you don't follow him

1887
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 2: on X you must surely two Y's on the end,

1888
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 2: and he has been.

1889
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 3: You've seen a lot of his reporting. He's one of

1890
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 3: the best out there.

1891
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 2: Right now, he's been hitting up Minneapolis daycare centers and

1892
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 2: other Somalia programs, Somalian programs, and he's been finding some

1893
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 2: disturbing things.

1894
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 3: Let's play this clip what Nick found at a daycare

1895
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 3: in Minneapolis.

1896
01:42:58,400 --> 01:42:58,759
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

1897
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 4: Here in Minnesota, massive fraud is taking place within the

1898
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 4: government and the Somality population here. This building alone, quality

1899
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 4: learning center is a daycare. Yet they spelt learning wrong

1900
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 4: and they said leering. This daycare alone, in twenty twenty

1901
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 4: five has received one point nine million dollars from the government.

1902
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:24,719
Speaker 4: And the strange things about these childcare centers is there's

1903
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 4: no one here right now. It's midday on a weekday,

1904
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 4: and so we were to try to go inside, it's

1905
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 4: completely closed and the windows are all blacked out.

1906
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 3: No one's working midday.

1907
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 4: Children should be in here, and this place is licensed

1908
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 4: for ninety nine children and this is the outside. There's

1909
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 4: no windows, no nothing. And like I said, they literally

1910
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 4: spelt the word wrong on their sign. This is open

1911
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 4: and fraud taking place here inside of Minnesota. The government

1912
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 4: is complicit with this. And this is just one of

1913
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 4: the hundreds of child daycare centers here inside of Minneapolis

1914
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 4: being ran by Somali population. It's sad that it's happening

1915
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 4: here in Minnesota, and it stinks that's happening, and it's

1916
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 4: being labeled on the Smali population. However, that's just the

1917
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 4: facts of what's happening here inside of Minnesota. One point

1918
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 4: nine million dollars for this daycare center, that cave and

1919
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 4: spell learning.

1920
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Right, one point nine million dollars.

1921
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 2: Nick went around to a bunch of different places that

1922
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 2: day uncovered. You can go to Twitter or x he's

1923
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 2: on there right now talking about in that single day, everybody,

1924
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 2: Nick uncovered one hundred and ten million dollars of fraud

1925
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 2: Smali fraud in that single day, just by going around

1926
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: to these physical addresses. Of course, the government's in on it,

1927
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 2: of course they are. Of course they are one.

1928
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 3: Hundred and ten million dollars one kid, one kid. And

1929
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 3: you know how he found one of the buildings that

1930
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,759
Speaker 3: was sucking up twenty six million dollars in state funds.

1931
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 3: You know how he found it a tip line a

1932
01:44:56,600 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 3: Minnesota resident. This old man said, you know, I this

1933
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 3: building and says welfare services on or whatever it says.

1934
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 2: There's nobody here. There's no one ever here. So I

1935
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 2: reported it nothing. I realized that they're getting all this

1936
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 2: money but no one's here. There's supposedly twenty businesses in here,

1937
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 2: but no one's here. This is what I'm saying, Like,

1938
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 2: I think we all need to become Karens. I think

1939
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 2: we all need to be the snitches.

1940
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate it. I hate that we

1941
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 3: have to be like this. But this is not our fault.

1942
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think your favorite place that uses illegal labor,

1943
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 2: I think you need to report them. I know it's

1944
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 2: not very Christmasy, but guess what Christmas is. Christmas is here,

1945
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 2: that's the birth of baby Jesus. But there's two messiahs, right,

1946
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: There's one in one. There's a Messiah who comes as

1947
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: a baby to bring peace and to bring light.

1948
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Speaker 3: Then he was.

1949
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 2: Killed and resurrected three days later, and then there's going

1950
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 2: to be a second Messiah, and that's the Jewish Messiah.

1951
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Speaker 4: Right.

1952
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 2: This is the reason why the Jews aren't Christians. They

1953
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 2: don't believe that that baby was the Messiah because he

1954
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,759
Speaker 2: was too nice, he was too calm, too much peace.

1955
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 2: Their Messiah, the one that they were waiting for, is

1956
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 2: the one that's going to come in like a lion

1957
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 2: and murder his enemies and get retribution.

1958
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Speaker 3: That's their Messiah. That's the second one, and that's Christmas too.

1959
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 2: Bombing our enemies on Christmas Day, who who rape and

1960
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 2: kill and murder God's people, that's Christmas too.

1961
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 3: That's Christmas too. So the harsh stuff, the stuff that

1962
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 3: doesn't feel good, that's Christmas too, because that's the kingdom.

1963
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Speaker 2: Right, that's liberty, and that's what it's all about. So

1964
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 2: you know some of us are gonna have to be soldiers. Well,

1965
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 2: we're all soldiers in this war. To be honest, we're

1966
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 2: all soldiers. That's Christmas. We're all gonna have to be

1967
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 2: a part of the solution, and that's Christmas because Christmas

1968
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 2: ultimately is liberty, So be a part of liberty.

1969
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Speaker 3: It's been my pleasure to be with you all. Catch

1970
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Speaker 3: you on the flip side. Happy New Year, Merry Christmas,

1971
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Speaker 3: Happy Honikah.

1972
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Speaker 2: You have been listening to Tony Katz today