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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're good to go today on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: because they had Opening Night at the Super Bowl last night,

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Speaker 2: So now I feel like my life is complete. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: James Boyd, Good morning, Kevin Bowen, and good morning Mark

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Speaker 2: Dyketon the silliness that is always Opening Night doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Kevin, do you, for one enjoy any

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Speaker 2: of the players and what they have to say on

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Speaker 2: opening night with the Super Bowl and they're all out

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Speaker 2: there for the first time.

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Speaker 1: I do not. I did not care one ounce about

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Speaker 1: last night. Forget it was even going on until I

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Speaker 1: saw it across my social media. So I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: time change and maybe if I had interest in the teams,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, not oon ounce for me.

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Speaker 3: Somebody showed me the did you see Somebody took a

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Speaker 3: screenshot of the distance it was from where the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowls actually located to where the media center was and

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 1: Like an hour and a half drive in California. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it looked like a doubt in family vacation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with no snacks. There's no Indianapolis combine, I can

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Speaker 3: tell you that much.

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Speaker 2: No, I asked that question, because I'll be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: I didn't remember it either. I started checking my phone

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Speaker 2: this morning at four forty five when I just happened

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Opening night is going on it And it's

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Speaker 2: so true, isn't it, James? If your team is not

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Speaker 2: there and doesn't feel close, do you want anything to

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Speaker 2: do with this week?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes?

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 5: I mean everyone who is a football fan is probably

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Speaker 5: all the media hype and then you get some of

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Speaker 5: the weirder questions. I know, Kevin, you're used to this

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Speaker 5: at the combine, wearing those scrums and you know we

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Speaker 5: might sit up there. They were going to draft Anthony

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Speaker 5: Richardson asked him a bunch of questions about playing quarterback,

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Speaker 5: his development, and then you'll get some random person who

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Speaker 5: is this even worth doing in this type of setting.

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Speaker 5: So I saw a couple of those types of questions

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Speaker 5: I'm under contract. So those types of questions never really

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Speaker 5: doing thing for me, And so I think it's more

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Speaker 5: so just to hype the game up from a media standpoint,

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Speaker 5: from an NFL profitability standpoint.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I couldn't care less. Let's just play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that most people are kind of getting there.

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Speaker 2: And I can remember, I don't know, years and years

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Speaker 2: far more focused on what was going on at the

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Speaker 2: Fieldhouse last night, where so many things to talk about.

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Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter, they.

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Speaker 2: I'd say that the Rockets went on twelve two run,

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Speaker 2: But most of that run was it the free throw line, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Late last night for the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter, they just kept shooting free throw

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Speaker 2: Shangun was eight of twelve in the fourth quarter from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pacers awful. Defending the glass. Defending without fouling would

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Speaker 1: Carlisle's adamant how key that was going to be, and

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Speaker 1: just killed them on the glass. And when they needed

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Speaker 1: that final stop, they had two chances. You know, Isaia

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Speaker 1: you're in one section of the fan base, it's a bummer.

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Speaker 1: If you're in the other, you say the phrase entertaining loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw one headline this morning in The Star

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Speaker 2: that said Pacers move one step closer to one of

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Speaker 2: those big three draft prospects, James.

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Speaker 4: For some people that's the whole game.

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Speaker 2: But as Kevin keeps pointing out, just because you get

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Speaker 5: No, But I do think if you're in the camp

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Speaker 5: of we need a big man, that game might be

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Speaker 5: very convincing for you because they could do nothing with

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Speaker 5: days now two days and some change to make a

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Speaker 5: change potentially to your roster. And I did find it

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Speaker 5: interesting that doesn't appear act shot at ten for Indie

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Speaker 5: Star coverage. I'm sorry Patier's coverage at Indy Star. He

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Speaker 5: caught it with Matherin after the game and was able

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Speaker 5: to ask him about the trade deadline. Matherin said, quote,

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Speaker 5: I could go two ways about it. I can be

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Speaker 5: stressed and worried about it and everything, but I just

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Speaker 5: feel like stress only comes from when you're not ready

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Speaker 5: for situations. For me is pretty much just keep my

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Speaker 5: head down and keep working. If it happens, it happens,

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Speaker 5: if it doesn't, I'm here to work so very I

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Speaker 2: So we'll be talking a lot about that in the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: With the deadline coming up on Thursday, what do they do?

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Speaker 2: They clearly have a huge hole at center, But I

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Speaker 2: keep looking at the names that are out there. It

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Speaker 2: improves you a little bit, but doesn't really make you

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Speaker 2: hole up the five spot with what's available out there.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, Yeah, James, I think it's a really good point

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Speaker 1: you make. Last night was certainly glaring in what you

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Speaker 1: don't have at center, and I found it fitting. If

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Speaker 1: you watched last night's game, you could make the case

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Speaker 1: the best pacer was Mathern. Yes, he was very, very

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Speaker 1: good in areas not just scoring and getting in the

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Speaker 1: foul line, like we know, he's frankly exceptional, especially come

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Speaker 1: off the bench in those areas. But five assistants, zero turnovers.

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Speaker 1: Many times we see that out of Benedict Matherin, And

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Speaker 1: I actually thought defensively he gave a little bit more

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Speaker 1: a little physical with Shengoon as well. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: you know, I found that a bit fitting because one

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Speaker 1: again we've seen them handle back to backs pretty rusty

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Speaker 1: night of back to backs here, So do we see

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Speaker 1: that tonight Pacers Jazz inside a Gamebridge Field House before

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Speaker 1: that trade deadline three o'clock on Thursday?

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Speaker 4: All right, so a lot of that going on.

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Speaker 2: We saw overnight Marion lost its head basketball coach. I't

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Speaker 2: ife you guys saw this, but Pat Knight has decided

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Speaker 2: to resign his position as the head coach at Marion.

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Speaker 2: He said in a statement that the administration wanted him

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Speaker 2: to fire an employee. He did not want to fire

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Speaker 6: Blake will explain all of that on Jake's show later today,

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Speaker 6: so make sure you tune in.

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Speaker 4: Jake was all over that.

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Speaker 6: Hell he's going to join at one, but yeah, tune

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Speaker 6: in for the whole show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Cotton Thener have had those quotes, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is going to join Jacot one. I think there's

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Speaker 1: probably more to each side of the story. If anybody

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Speaker 1: gets tossed. Todd Howard is his top assistant. I think

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Speaker 1: the name Todd Howard will resonate with basketball fans here locally,

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Speaker 1: former IUPUI coach most recently. I think at buff if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, for quite a while, Todd Howard gets

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Speaker 1: into it post post game was pretty chaotic. They lost

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Speaker 1: to Ghoshen Gooshen I believe was on some fifty game

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Speaker 1: in the handshake line again, Pat Knight's ejecting the first half,

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Speaker 1: Todd Howard's yelling at people the scores table. It was

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Speaker 1: I assume there's a little bit more to the story.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Pat Knight is referencing Todd Howard

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Speaker 1: in that story with Colin then rep saying that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Marion told him he needed to fire somebody, but just

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Speaker 1: unfortunate period. You know, Pat Knight coming back to Marion

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Speaker 1: you know that had the feel of a feel good story.

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Speaker 1: I did see Pat Knight express to Kyle that he

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Speaker 2: So those are the things that we'll be talking about

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Speaker 2: Mark Dychton on the ones in twos and the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Pacers lose last night at home to the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 2: won eighteen to one fourteen the final score Alpha and

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Speaker 2: Chongoon had thirty nine points. He was thirteen of eighteen

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Speaker 2: from the free throw line, eight of twelve from the

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Speaker 2: line of the fourth quarter as the Pacers just couldn't

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Speaker 2: match up with him. Also, I'm in Thompson with a

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Speaker 2: key three point play down the stretch gave the team,

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Speaker 2: the Rockets a three point lead at one seventeen one fourteen,

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Speaker 2: and then James Dan Shangoon went back to the free

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Speaker 2: They ran out the clock and That was the end

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Speaker 2: In college basketball, Indiana place at USC tonight ten pm.

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Speaker 2: Happens late tonight. They had Super Bowl Opening Night last night.

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Speaker 4: They are going to go.

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Speaker 5: Now send you boy overseas again. I do enjoy those trips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, girls basketball sectional is going to get underway. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Lola Lampley. That family quite the Division one

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Speaker 2: All right, that's what's happening in the world of sports.

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Speaker 2: playing without Kevin Durant. But man, it happens more and

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Speaker 2: more and more, but especially so last night with Shingoon

439
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Speaker 2: shining the light.

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Speaker 4: There's just a huge void at the five spot for

441
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Speaker 4: the Indiana Pacers. It's not just scoring and rebounding, just.

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Speaker 1: Everything, Mark, man of your word, thank you for that.

443
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

444
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Speaker 3: After that, we had some musical requests obviously yesterday with

445
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Speaker 3: Groundhog Day. So I made sure to, you know, put

446
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Speaker 3: in the back of my head like, Okay, Kevin wants

447
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,360
Speaker 3: that song, I'll play it later.

448
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Speaker 1: All the small mess with success from yesterday, right, Mark? Yeah?

449
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 1: I mean, center is a clear issue. And you know,

450
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Speaker 1: when we had Alex Golden on the nine o'clock hour,

451
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Speaker 1: you know, I asked him a question of is there

452
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Speaker 1: any way they can satisfy everything of like, hey, you

453
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Speaker 1: keep mathering, you keep your first round pick, and you

454
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Speaker 1: still somehow, some way go out and find a center.

455
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Speaker 1: It seems like wishful thinking, right, And so I think

456
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Speaker 1: that's the hardest question you have coming into Thursday, is

457
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Speaker 1: you know, what exactly is the best mode of operation?

458
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: Do you wait at all? You can perform signing trades

459
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Speaker 1: in the off season, but there's a risk element in that.

460
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Speaker 1: And then you know, with Benedict Matherin, you know, again

461
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Speaker 1: it is he is a restrict free agent, but it's

462
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Speaker 1: still you know, a two way street. Does he want

463
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Speaker 1: to be here? Did the Pacers want to sign him

464
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Speaker 1: long term? So I think these are all very difficult questions.

465
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's an easy answer to how the

466
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Speaker 1: Pacers should operate here and that's coming from a huge

467
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Speaker 1: Mathering guy. I mean, I'm a huge Mathering guy. I

468
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Speaker 1: don't think they should move him, but I don't think

469
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Speaker 1: it's easy to say that. And I'll go back to

470
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Speaker 1: what I said yesterday. You know, you let Miles Turner

471
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Speaker 1: walk for nothing. And look, I understand it. The Pacers

472
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Speaker 1: had a really good team last season. They got to

473
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Speaker 1: Game seven in the finals. Sometimes that's business. I don't

474
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Speaker 1: think you can do that again, and I think that

475
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Speaker 1: would be weighed on me heavily with Matheren for Thursday.

476
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Speaker 2: Man, it was fun watching him do what he does

477
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Speaker 2: last night though, And you talked about elevation in this

478
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Speaker 2: game a little bit, just taking care of the basketball

479
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Speaker 2: with the five assists and no turnovers. But if you

480
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Speaker 2: want to bring somebody in to shore up that five

481
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: spot and again getting back to avoiding not losing guys,

482
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Speaker 2: you know outright, I like Benedict Matherne a lot, but

483
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Speaker 2: I don't know how he doesn't get moved before the

484
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Speaker 2: trade deadline, James, unless the deal just can't be made.

485
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess it comes down to.

486
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Speaker 5: How big of an issue you think the center position is.

487
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Speaker 5: And by that, I mean we know it's an issue,

488
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Speaker 5: But does it outweigh the possibility of Matheren's development into

489
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Speaker 5: perhaps a bigger role with your franchise, And do you

490
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Speaker 5: feel like this is your only way to address this

491
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Speaker 5: so you can still make a trade in the off season,

492
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Speaker 5: You can still sign somebody in free agency in the

493
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Speaker 5: off season. You don't have to necessarily tie yourself to

494
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Speaker 5: making a move for a center right now today. So that,

495
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Speaker 5: to me is one of the questions they have to weigh,

496
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Speaker 5: is like, Okay, if not now, then when it has

497
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Speaker 5: to be addressed and to what extent? And then how

498
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Speaker 5: much do we weigh the center position when we know

499
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Speaker 5: we're going to get our captain back and Tyre's Holliburton

500
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Speaker 5: next year.

501
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Speaker 6: Now I'm not saying Tyre's gonna play center, but.

502
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Speaker 5: Does his return perhaps allow you to get a center

503
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Speaker 5: who isn't perhaps as good because you know Tyree's can

504
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Speaker 5: raise the level of play. So I'm very curious because

505
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 5: even stylistically, you have to figure.

506
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Speaker 6: Out what you want. I mean, as much as we

507
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Speaker 6: talk about Miles Turner.

508
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Speaker 5: Leavin and the pastor is not being as green where

509
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 5: he is right now, he still is ideally what you

510
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Speaker 5: would want in a modern NBA center, a guy who

511
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Speaker 5: can shoot in block shots. You don't really have that

512
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Speaker 5: at that level on your roster anymore.

513
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Speaker 9: I no know.

514
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Speaker 5: Jay Huff kind of gives you a little bit of that,

515
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Speaker 5: but there's a reason why. Prior to this season he

516
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Speaker 5: had kind of been an NBA journeyman in pretty much

517
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Speaker 5: a backup. So a little bit tough there when it

518
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Speaker 5: comes to the evaluation. And before I shut up here,

519
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Speaker 5: I would do want to give a quick shout out

520
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Speaker 5: to one of our listeners here on the air.

521
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Speaker 6: Braidon from Brownsburg reached out.

522
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Speaker 5: He said, checking his kids to school and his son

523
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Speaker 5: Cayden turned six today, So my birthday to Kayden.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for to j Good morning again. I hope you

525
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Speaker 1: have a great day.

526
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Speaker 5: At school, and you know, tell your parents give you

527
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Speaker 5: up whatever you want because you one turns six one

528
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Speaker 5: time in your life.

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Speaker 1: Cayden treats all day having your birthday to Kayden. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Braden for listening. Yeah, I think you lay that

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Speaker 1: out pretty well, James. Now let's just look at center

532
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Speaker 1: and let's look at wing. The two positions we're talking

533
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Speaker 1: about here. If you were to lose Matherin again, I

534
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Speaker 1: think it would be a very notable loss. But having

535
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Speaker 1: said that, is there a thought in the back of

536
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Speaker 1: your head is look at next year's draft, and by

537
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Speaker 1: next year's draft, I should say June's draft, that's where

538
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Speaker 1: the wings are. There's a lot of wings in that draft.

539
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Speaker 1: So theoretically you would be replacing him, not necessarily with

540
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Speaker 1: Jeris Walker Johnny Furfey on your roster, but with potentially,

541
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Speaker 1: you know, one of those wings that we're seeing right

542
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Speaker 1: now in college basketball. Whereas when you say center, how

543
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: do you go about replacing that? I don't think there's

544
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Speaker 1: anyone internally on the roster you feel good about, not

545
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Speaker 1: even I don't even think there's a Jaris Walker or

546
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Speaker 1: Johnny Furfey on the roster at center right now, and

547
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Speaker 1: then when you look at the draft again, there doesn't

548
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Speaker 1: appear to be that now. Having said that, James, you

549
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Speaker 1: don't have this conversation a few weeks ago, I like

550
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Speaker 1: read off a list of the top centers in the

551
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Speaker 1: league and where they were found, where they were drafted,

552
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Speaker 1: and not many of them are lottery picks. You know,

553
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Speaker 1: when you look at Shngoon last night, where was he drafted?

554
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Speaker 1: You know there are a lot of these centers that

555
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Speaker 1: get found and they're not the one over. I mean,

556
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Speaker 1: sure you have your Webin Yamas, you have and again

557
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: calling him a center, he does so much more. But

558
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Speaker 1: like you have your occasional Karl Anthony Towns, those types

559
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Speaker 1: of guys. But for the most part, a lot of

560
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Speaker 1: these high level centers in the league. Khalil Ware is

561
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Speaker 1: a really nice NBA center. He is becoming a really

562
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Speaker 1: solid player. And you know what, middle round one. So

563
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: that is where I do pause a little bit, and

564
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man is trading a player like Matherin worth that?

565
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Speaker 1: Because I mean, let's go back to the NBA Finals. Guys,

566
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Speaker 1: what youngest player ever to have a twenty five point

567
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Speaker 1: game off the bench in an NBA Finals game? In

568
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Speaker 1: Game three? And I feel like we right off Game

569
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Speaker 1: seven because Tyres gets hurt, the Pacers have a halftime

570
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: lead of that game. Every Pacer is wilting not named Mathern.

571
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Speaker 1: Matherin has twenty four and thirteen in the biggest game

572
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Speaker 1: this franchise has ever had. On a night where Tyre's

573
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Speaker 1: Halliburton tears his achilles. The man is crazy, like everyone

574
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Speaker 1: else is wilting and peeing down their leg for the

575
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Speaker 1: pacers in that setting of Game seven, whether it's a

576
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Speaker 1: Game seven pressure, whether it's having Halliburton being carried off

577
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Speaker 1: the floor and Bendick Mathern's.

578
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Speaker 4: Like, I got it.

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Speaker 1: My hand's raised, I got it. Here's twenty four and thirteen, Like,

580
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: dudes just aren't wired that way, not twenty two year

581
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: olds coming off the bench. So again, I think it'd

582
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: be a really notable loss. But having said that, I

583
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Speaker 1: can listen to it. I'm not, you know, as big

584
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Speaker 1: of a mathering guy as I am, I'm not going

585
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Speaker 1: to ignore the situation the franchise is in right now.

586
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Speaker 1: I just think at times we really really undermine how

587
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Speaker 1: rare of a player he is.

588
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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

589
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Speaker 2: I've always been a Matherin fan, and I get where

590
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Speaker 2: they're at. James, you know how much did it change

591
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Speaker 2: that Miles Turner essentially just walked away and you can't

592
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Speaker 2: let that happen again.

593
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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what their overarching plan is with the

595
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Speaker 2: draft coming up and getting Tyrese Haliburton back and trying

596
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Speaker 2: to fit people in under the salary cap and trying

597
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Speaker 2: to find a five at the same time.

598
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough, but I'm probably laying in towards keeping

599
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 5: them myself, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope they do, but at some point they're going to

601
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Speaker 2: have to address that five spot, and I don't know

602
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Speaker 2: do they do it in And I haven't heard a

603
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: word about when he might come back, But is Obi

604
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: topping the rest of the season? Your answer at the

605
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: five spot? Can you play him long minutes there?

606
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: Probably not, But I mean I don't think Obi's coming

607
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: back anytime, So.

608
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it doesn't say like it.

609
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 5: Probably doesn't really matter if he were to come back

610
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: or not. I mean that's not a long term answer.

611
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Speaker 1: Well, he can't be her center. Eighty two nights out

612
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: of here if Obie Dobbins out there, Shingoon's throwing him

613
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Speaker 1: out of the club last night too. I mean, it's

614
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Speaker 1: just you have to find a center that can go

615
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Speaker 1: hang just hanging there defensively probably more than anything. I mean,

616
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Speaker 1: that was embarrassing last night trying to watch that team

617
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: get a rebound there late. Isaiah Jackson just gets worked

618
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: by Jay Shawn Taate there on a free throw blockout

619
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Speaker 1: late in that game. And I mean, James, I don

620
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: know if you're getting all the way there, but you know,

621
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Speaker 1: I saw someone Texas in Jimmy here. Halliburton made miles.

622
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: You know he can do that for any center. I

623
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Speaker 1: can understand where some of the rationale is coming from

624
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: of Halliburton accentuates so much of guys around him. But defensively,

625
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: Jimmy's not acknowledging that there. And that's my biggest question

626
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: from an honestly type point. I reached more of a

627
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: liability on that in the floor. If you really want

628
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: to get into it, can you just find a defensive

629
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Speaker 1: minded center. I don't worry about the Pacers offensively, especially

630
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: with Tyree's coming back. It's more of a can you rebound?

631
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: Can you protect the rim? And can you defend without fouling?

632
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: And that can be six points eight points a game

633
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: for all I care, But can you do some of

634
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: the dirty stuff while you have an offense? One through

635
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: four Haliburton, memhar Niece Smith Siaka On, if Matherin still here,

636
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Speaker 1: insert your top ten pick, Yeah, come in in the summer.

637
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Speaker 6: All that well, here's my thinking.

638
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 5: And so when it comes to the evaluation of a center,

639
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: I think they don't have their real center or someone

640
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: you want to build something around on their roster. Currently

641
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: as constructive. I don't think that's a hot take at all.

642
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 5: But my thinking is is, Okay, if you get a

643
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: healthy Halliburton back, at least offensively, he'll elevate that player

644
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: enough to where they're not a complete liability on the

645
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 5: offensive end.

646
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: For example, I know people.

647
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 5: Talk about Miles and how he really was playing his

648
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: best basketball with Tyreeves, but to be far to Miles,

649
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: his skill set was working.

650
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 6: Fairly well without him.

651
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that he was a better player, but

652
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: it was very clearly that by his own merits, Miles

653
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: Turner had developed into I would think a top tennis

654
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Speaker 5: center on his own in the NBA. Not saying a

655
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Speaker 5: whole lot, but there is a lot of great centers

656
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Speaker 5: in the NBA. My point is he had proven that

657
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 5: by himself. There is no center on the roster currently

658
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: for that. Now to your point about defensively, yes, can

659
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: you find that? And that's why I would probably lean

660
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Speaker 5: towards keeping Mathering because to me, it might be easier

661
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Speaker 5: to find a center who can fill some of your

662
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Speaker 5: defensive issues when it comes to defensive rebounding, when it

663
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: comes to blocking shots, than it is to find another guy.

664
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Speaker 6: Who can create for you.

665
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Speaker 5: And then maybe I'm just a little biased here because

666
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Speaker 5: I'm not the big man, never was in my life.

667
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Speaker 5: But I feel like when you watch the NBA, especially today,

668
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: shot creation guys who can create offense for you, those

669
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Speaker 5: are guys you want to keep around more often than not.

670
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Speaker 5: And so can you try to build around that sort

671
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: of deficiency in your roster, Like is it easier to

672
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Speaker 5: build around the deficiency of not having the traditional defensive

673
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: center than it is to move on from Mathering? Upgrade

674
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 5: at the five, but then not really upgrade enough to

675
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Speaker 5: the point where you're still kind of handicapped when it

676
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Speaker 5: comes to your offensive output and what you can do

677
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Speaker 5: when Halliburton has to sit down or when your potential

678
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 5: top five pick has to sit down, do you have

679
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Speaker 5: the other guy who can keep you afloat? And I

680
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 5: think that Matherin is that And then some potentially.

681
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Speaker 1: Well last thing I'm saying Mathering last night, the Pacers

682
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: got to the foul line twenty one times. Mathering off

683
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: the bench got their ten. That is rare. How many

684
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: dudes are coming off the bench in the NBA and

685
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Speaker 1: creating half the foul shots for their team. And the

686
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: Pacers have never been a big foul shot team here

687
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: in this recent era. But mathering is that again. It's

688
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: at times it's not maybe the prettiest looking thing, but

689
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: he puts his head down, he drives, and you know

690
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: more often than not he's going to the foul and

691
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: he's a great foul shooter. And so you know that

692
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: is I think an aspect to his gay that really,

693
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody. There are a lot of

694
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: special offensive traits the Pacers have individually. I know one

695
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Speaker 1: I think on the rosters kind of like matherin from

696
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: a foul drawer, getting to the foul line, getting easy

697
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Speaker 1: points that way.

698
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Speaker 2: And I believe Betteedig Mathern is restricted free agent with

699
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Speaker 2: bird rights. Does that play in the part play a

700
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Speaker 2: part in how the Pacers They could either match it

701
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: off or somebody else gives. But I don't think we

702
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: woud hurt him again the salarycap if they had to

703
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Speaker 2: sign him to do that, would it?

704
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Repeat that for me one more time.

705
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Speaker 6: I can bettan.

706
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Speaker 2: Mcmather is restricted free agent with bird rights and the

707
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: bird rights clause that lets UH teams keep players who

708
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: have earned those rights without sacrific in cap space for

709
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Speaker 2: other moves.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure how that relates to his specific.

711
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Speaker 2: Contract right now, but I think that there are some

712
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: options that the pacers have rather than just losing him

713
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: out right.

714
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

715
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Speaker 5: I guess it comes down to can you do this

716
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Speaker 5: song and dance again?

717
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Speaker 6: If you want to?

718
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Speaker 5: Could you let's say, Okay Matherin, you know, go ahead

719
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 5: and pick up a deal somewhere else.

720
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Speaker 6: We'll match it and keep you here.

721
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Speaker 5: And then we'll revisit this conversation again in a year

722
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Speaker 5: or so when it comes to trading or keeping you.

723
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Speaker 6: I mean, you could do it in theory.

724
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Speaker 5: So I just don't know if I wire to rush

725
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Speaker 5: into a decision over the next couple of days that

726
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Speaker 5: could really affect.

727
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Speaker 6: In a couple of seasons, is what I'm saying.

728
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Speaker 2: Two nine ten seventy number to call. Tony's on the line.

729
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Speaker 2: Joined us now on the Fan morning show.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Tony, Hey morning guys, and Angle.

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Speaker 9: I'd like you to think about also, cause you mentioned earlier,

732
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Speaker 9: does he want to stay? Is he willing to stay

733
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Speaker 9: and come off the bench? Because what do you do

734
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Speaker 9: do you sit in these with like That's the other thing.

735
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Speaker 9: As Matthering gets better, you know, like I suck at

736
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Speaker 9: two K, I p agm because I'm a dorky. Players

737
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 9: get tired of being on the bench and they request

738
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Speaker 9: the trade is he's willing to stay and beat a

739
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Speaker 9: sixth man and come off the bench. And if not,

740
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Speaker 9: if you keep him with whose hits?

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Speaker 1: You know, thanks guys, Yeah, Tony. I think Tony makes

742
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: a great, great point, Nather. It is a very uniquely

743
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: wired individual. There's a lot of good to that, but

744
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: there are certainly some others that Rick Carlile and company

745
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Speaker 1: have got to, you know, certainly account for. So I

746
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: do think it's a good point. Now, as Jeff said,

747
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: he is a restricted free agent, so there's only only

748
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: almost so much control that he currently has walking into

749
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: this situation this summer. But you know, that's what you

750
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: have to figure out. That's why when we had Alex

751
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: Golden on yesterday, the first question I said Alex was

752
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: do the Pacers want to re sign him? Like I

753
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: assume they do. But you know, again we start to

754
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: talk about finances and how much you're paying Halliburton, how

755
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: much you're paying Siakam, and you know, really Obi Topping

756
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: and TJ McConnell make a good amount of money for

757
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: guys that are coming off the bench, and by no

758
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: means are we here yet, By no means, Siakam has

759
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: played extraordinarily well. But as we each let's call the

760
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Speaker 1: next window of Halliburton five years. Okay, he comes back,

761
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Speaker 1: and you've now created a new five year window. As

762
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Speaker 1: you get to the back part of that window, let's

763
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Speaker 1: say Siakam, instead of becoming a definite All star becomes

764
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Speaker 1: just a nice whatever, fourteen to fifteen point guy a night,

765
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Speaker 1: still a fine player, but he's not the all star

766
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: level player. Is that then, where a guy like Matherin

767
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Speaker 1: kind of goes from six man to use Tony's term,

768
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Speaker 1: and now he all of a sudden slides into more

769
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Speaker 1: of the one a if you will. With Halliburton, you know,

770
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Speaker 1: when you see championship iterations, it's not all you know,

771
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Speaker 1: if you look at the ninety one, ninety two to

772
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Speaker 1: ninety three Bowls, that core was not the same one

773
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Speaker 1: in ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight. Obviously Michael and

774
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Speaker 1: Scotty were, But you know guys that also are the

775
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: third and the fourth options, they all of a sudden

776
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Speaker 1: either leave or they're not the same player over the

777
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: course of five or six years. That would be a

778
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: question I would have for you, and we say all

779
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: this and this is where top five, top ten pick

780
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: could come into play in a big, big way. I

781
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: mean I try to multi screen it late last night

782
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: watching Darren Peterson, and boy, I mean, you want to

783
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: talk about a bucket getter, and you want to talk

784
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: about a guy that walked into that road environment last

785
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: night and hit some clutch shots late in a game.

786
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: For you, you know that could add another thing. And

787
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: that is the area that theoretically is a little bit

788
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: more replaceable with matherin. That's probably where I paused the most.

789
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Speaker 1: If this draft class didn't have what it appears to

790
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Speaker 1: have on the wings, I don't think I would even

791
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: listen to the mather and stuff like I'm willing to do.

792
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Speaker 1: I still don't want to move them, but I'm at

793
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Speaker 1: least going to listen to it because of what this

794
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: draft class looks like here in a few months.

795
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Speaker 2: So going forward, we know Tylery's Haliburton coming back obviously,

796
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Speaker 2: Siakam Halliburton.

797
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 4: Let's say Nemhart as well.

798
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Speaker 2: Who are the core guys you were talking about the

799
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Speaker 2: bulls different iterations.

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Speaker 1: Well, Nie Smith for sure. Yeah, yeah, I mean those

801
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: are your I think Rick has said that to us, James,

802
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: he has mentioned, you know, Haliburton, nemhar Nie Smith, Siakam.

803
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: And then I think the question is, you know, is

804
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: matherin that next guy? And you know Walker I think's

805
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: had a nice last couple of weeks here, you know,

806
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: is that something that obviously we'll see how the final

807
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: thirty games play out, but a lot of debates on that.

808
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: Saw this wild stat from IU again tonight ten o'clock

809
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: for Indiana at USC. It's all this yesterday. They've made

810
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: at least ten to three pointers in four straight conference games.

811
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Speaker 1: So at least ten threes four straight Big Ten games.

812
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: First time they've done that. It's a program in twenty

813
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: three years, two.

814
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 4: Thousand and four.

815
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Speaker 5: Geez, that really doesn't surprise me too much, to be

816
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 5: honest with you.

817
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: But they've had like great offensive teams of Tom creanah

818
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: great offensive teams with Crean.

819
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Speaker 6: But tim Ay threes in like four gives is crazy.

820
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Well, and again especially in Big Ten, because if you did.

821
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Speaker 6: Nine, that's still a good night for you probably. I

822
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 6: mean that's a lot of buckets, but that's a great

823
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 6: equalizer for them.

824
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: And again why the Orans are rival or you know,

825
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Obviously insertion in the

826
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: starting lineup. That has been a huge, huge part of it.

827
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at Dorn, you know,

828
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: early in the season, again bad a lot of injuries

829
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: in the offseason, you know, really just wasn't playing that

830
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: much early in the year. I think the thought was

831
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: he could provide some of this, but again, ten threes,

832
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: and you know, if you look at it, you know

833
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: at Rutgers, one of those games, at UCLA, one of

834
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: those games, even at Michigan, it goes all the way

835
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Speaker 1: back to that game, and that's three or four in

836
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: the road. It's not like you've just lived in Assembly

837
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Speaker 1: Hall where you're naturally going to shoot it a little

838
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: better in your home building. There So definitely a stat

839
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Speaker 1: that I think we thought this IU team was capable

840
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: of shooting the basketball at a really, really high level

841
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: this season. But that is one that really stood out

842
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: to me.

843
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 6: So as USC does this have Combrina his son.

844
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Speaker 1: I think he's finally back. Yeah, he was in the

845
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: awful car accident and was a very hailted recruit. I

846
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: don't think he's played particularly well, to be honest with you,

847
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: since his return here. And again, like if I were

848
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: going to say who's better USC or UCLA, I would

849
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Speaker 1: say U c l A of the two. Obviously, USC

850
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: had a great chance to be purduing Brad Smith made

851
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: some big plays down the stretch, but again they haven't

852
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: really you know, controlled home floor. The nice thing about

853
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: some of these big ten random venues like Rutgers or

854
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: out here in the LA area, I mean those massive

855
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: metropolitan cities, Like if you weren't IU alum in LA

856
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: you'd be going to these games, would you know. I

857
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: mean it's like the one chance to see your team, you.

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00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 5: Know, and probably didn't that expensive particular considering with the

859
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Speaker 5: other side of the.

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Speaker 1: I felt like there are a lot of kreem of

861
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Speaker 1: Crimson and Polly Pavilion on Saturday. I can't imagine I'm

862
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: away feeling good about.

863
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: The IU Athletics right now.

864
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Speaker 1: Regardless, I can't imagine what tonight is and I feel

865
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Speaker 1: that way when they go and play at Rutgers there

866
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: So at ten o'clock to night, slight Underdog, where can

867
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: we see that game coming? All radio coverage on w

868
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: ib C TV Wise on the cock. Just so you know, James,

869
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Speaker 1: that's what you mean you to second.

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Speaker 4: I just like it when Kevin says it.

871
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't have the same clip that Mark

872
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: Mark I.

873
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: Say. I heard that. Dang, you see the show. Do

874
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: you see the.

875
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Speaker 4: Editing coming on that one right there, James I did. Yeah,

876
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: you're going to see what that sounds like a little

877
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Speaker 4: bit later on.

878
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Speaker 2: But it's fun to watch Indiana doing their thing. I

879
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: keep saying the word fun. That seems to be it

880
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 2: this week, But watching Indiana basketball is fun. Watching Purdue

881
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: get it back together with Fletcher Lawyer, uh, I enjoyed that. Obviously,

882
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: coming off the national championship. There's just a lot of

883
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: good things happening around here. We're kind of in suspended

884
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: animation mode in some ways with the Indiana Pacers, because

885
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: nothing really about what this team is in the future

886
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: happens until we get Tyree Aliburton back and we see

887
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: our works out.

888
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: Very true.

889
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 5: One more thing on I you, Kevin, I still would

890
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 5: like to see Tucker Devrees play better. I think that

891
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 5: when the shooting inevitably comes back down to earth, at

892
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: least a little bit, you need that player to be better.

893
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 5: Than what he has been so far this season. When

894
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 5: it comes to a shot making standpoint, a shot creation standpoint,

895
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: he's been okay.

896
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 6: But I'm not gonna lie.

897
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 5: I thought he would be like their best player this year,

898
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 5: considering what he's done throughout his college career.

899
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Speaker 1: Especially when he's that big of a liability defensively. Right.

900
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: But again, Dorn I think is alleviated a ton of that.

901
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, when I say they've made ten straight threes

902
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: in four straight games, I want to say dort or

903
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: at least ten threes I should say in four straight games.

904
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Speaker 1: I want to say Dorn's made twenty threes in the

905
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: last four games. Crazy. I mean, we're talking college basketball here. Dudes.

906
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Speaker 1: Just don't all of a sudden appear off the bench

907
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: and bang home.

908
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 5: Throw us a lot of bricks we see throughout college play,

909
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: So to shoot that, well, yes, very good point, Kevin.

910
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up in a moment, we know that

911
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Speaker 2: on Thursday, not only is the NBA trade deadline, but

912
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Speaker 2: the NFL they will announce the Pro Football Hall of

913
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Speaker 2: Fame announces the folks that will be getting in to

914
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Speaker 2: Canton this coming summer. A prominent writer that has covered

915
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Speaker 2: the national Football League for decades saying less than flattering

916
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: things about one of your candidates from the Indianapolis Colts

917
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Speaker 2: tell you about it next ninety three five.

918
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Speaker 1: And Rutgers there. So at ten o'clock Tonight's slight Underdog?

919
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Speaker 4: Where can we see that game?

920
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: Kevin our radio coverage on w IBC TV, wise on

921
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: the cock. Just so you know, James, that's what you mean?

922
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Speaker 1: You you free a second?

923
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: I just like it when Kevin says it.

924
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 5: I you want to get down?

925
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 10: I want to go and do you want.

926
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Speaker 1: To get down?

927
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Speaker 11: You were listening to the Van Morning Show on Sports

928
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Speaker 11: Radio ninety three and.

929
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Speaker 4: Come on cool a game by request today? Who requested

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: this one?

931
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: I like it me myself and I yeah, baby, I'll

932
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Speaker 1: tell you what here. In jeff Ricord's reaction when that

933
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: came on the speaker, I thought the blue pill might

934
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: have gone in him there. Maybe maybe I may.

935
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Speaker 4: Start to investigate the blue pill if it gives me more.

936
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Christ Mike all of a sudden almost hit the ceiling

937
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: in here.

938
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: Mark, I was gonna have to that's right for my wheelhouse.

939
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I got on our facilities manager

940
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Speaker 1: to get in here. Boy, was I wrong James Boyd,

941
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: you are the same sound.

942
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 4: I did hear the same sound. Jamb has a sports arousal.

943
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 4: I get music arousal.

944
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Speaker 1: Sometimes there you go.

945
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Speaker 5: That was a classic there, Mark ooh my, definitely get

946
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 5: some cookout vibes there.

947
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: Good Morgan, Welcome into the Fan Morning Show along with

948
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, James Boyd. The DJ we're speaking about, of course,

949
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: is Mark Dyton, always spinning the hits and you can

950
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: find out everything he plays on Twitter at the end

951
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: of the show in case you're wondering what'll the playlist was.

952
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 4: From day to day.

953
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: In the meantime, Thursday, Yes, Yesterday's playlist was Awes, Sonny

954
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: and cher so people were confused, They're what songs were those?

955
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: Sun them all out, Sonny and Share I Got You

956
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Babe made a very famous song when it came out,

957
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: but made more famous probably in the movie Groundhog Day.

958
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: There's always a theme for the most part.

959
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: For the most part, so we've got a lot of

960
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 4: things happening on Thursday.

961
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: We've been talking about the trade deadline in the NBA,

962
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: but also on Thursday we find out who's going to

963
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: be inducted into the Hall of Fame for the Pro

964
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame coming up this July. And Peter King,

965
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: who's been covering the NFL for I don't know, half

966
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: of the century, forever and ever, had some very interesting

967
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: things to say.

968
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: About two particular wide receivers that.

969
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: He did not vote for to get into the Hall

970
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: of Fame, Tory Holt from the Rams and the Greatest

971
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Show on Turf.

972
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: But for our purposes of discussion, Reggie Wayne.

973
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 12: They were excellent players, and they both played big roles

974
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 12: in their team. I'm just not a believer that they

975
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 12: are singular players, and I think to get into the

976
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 12: Hall of Fame you have to be a little bit

977
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Speaker 12: more than somebody. I mean, Reggie Wayne caught over a

978
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 12: thousand balls, Tory Holt caught over nine hundred. They each

979
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 12: obviously have a lot of touchdowns. But I can think

980
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 12: of a lot of receivers in NFL history who didn't

981
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 12: get drafted by the Indianapolis Colts. They got drafted by

982
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 12: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and they had whoever throw into

983
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 12: him and not Peyton Manning. And they didn't have Kurt

984
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 12: Warner in his prime, you know, with the incredible years

985
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 12: that he had. But if you asked me to name

986
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 12: the amount of great and the amount of you know,

987
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 12: plays he made in the field that I just said, Wow,

988
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 12: look at that. Now, that's an incredible receiver. Just sorry,

989
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 12: I just didn't see that.

990
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: Where do you want to start, Kevin Bowen?

991
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Peter King's dead wrong. First off, to me,

992
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: is not a highlight reel honor. You know, he just

993
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: said it there at the end. You know, how many

994
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: catches can you point to that? This is not a

995
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: one handed catch with Odell Beckham Junior would be a

996
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. It is about production, just

997
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: point blank period. And Reggie Wayne's longevity I think is

998
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: something that I've always pointed to that really stands out

999
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: a couple things for me with Reggie. First off, his

1000
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: postseason career is tremendous. That is something that when you

1001
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: get to that level of the game, do you take

1002
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: your game to another level? That to me would be

1003
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: part of the criteria that I would look at. And

1004
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne's done that. He's one of the best catch

1005
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: yardage guys in playoff history. And then I would tell

1006
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: Peter King to sit down to watch the twenty twelve

1007
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: season without Peyton Manny particularly to watch the Green Bay

1008
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: game with the orange gloves and watch Reggie Wayne against

1009
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson. Where is Charles Woodson with a gold jacket on?

1010
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: So I would point to that. Now, Unfortunately, we do

1011
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: have to live in a dose of reality though of that.

1012
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: What Peter King just said there, based off what Mike

1013
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: Chappell has shared, that's how the room thinks of Reggie Wayne.

1014
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne is not getting the Hall of Fame anytime

1015
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: soon in my opinion. And Tory Holt was a finalist

1016
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: last year, like got to the top. I think it's

1017
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: the top seven James is what they cut it down to,

1018
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: and Reggie did not get to that threshold. And they

1019
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: both I believe it the same like seven years on

1020
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: the ballot. I think they both went on the ballot

1021
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: at the same time. So if you want to play

1022
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: the line game, which I think we play a lot

1023
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: when it comes to Hall of Fame, first off, Layer

1024
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is a first ballot Hall of Famer in my opinion,

1025
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: coming up Thursday night, Okay, he's going to go in,

1026
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: and then you would assume Tory Holt is above Reggie

1027
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: if you're going if you're gonna go off of last year.

1028
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: So again I would disagree with what Peter King's saying,

1029
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: but unfortunately, I think that opinion is a little bit

1030
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: more prevalent in the room than many want to admit.

1031
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: Well, numbers wise, he's got over a thousand catches. He

1032
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: has eighty two touchdowns just just in the regular season,

1033
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: and I think the thing that amazes me about Reggie

1034
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: Wayne is the excellence that he displayed throughout all the

1035
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: regular season. His numbers are almost when you talk about averages,

1036
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: they're almost identical going into the postseason. So you take

1037
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: a guy with great regular season numbers and there's no

1038
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: decline in the postseason when you're playing against better defenses,

1039
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: when you're playing against better cornerbacks, your production.

1040
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: Stays the same. And it's funny.

1041
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: I was actually watching an extended highlight reel the other

1042
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: night when I was going down one of my rabbit

1043
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: holes of Super Bowl forty one, and that fifty seven

1044
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: yard touchdown pass that he caught that really kind of

1045
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: got them on track offensively, that's who he was. He

1046
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: seemed to be opened by a step almost all the

1047
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: time on a lot of these plays. That's not and

1048
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: that's yes. Peyton Manning getting him the football and Peyton

1049
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: Manning doing a great job and scheming things up.

1050
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: But the man was always open. That's individual, isn't it.

1051
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean he's eleventh all time in receptions, tenth all

1052
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: time in receiving yards.

1053
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: That's hall of fame, is it not.

1054
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: You're saying the.

1055
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Other top ten guys, there's guys that don't qualify for that.

1056
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: That seems absurd.

1057
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 5: That's when I met with this mark, because we're talking

1058
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 5: about a game that's been played for over one hundred years,

1059
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 5: and to be top ten and anything when it comes

1060
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: to those categories counts for something, right, And I do

1061
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 5: understand what Peter King is saying.

1062
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 9: I just don't.

1063
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 6: I'll say this because hey, we're on the ready, yo,

1064
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 6: let's be real.

1065
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: Peter King is a.

1066
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 6: Legend when it comes to journalism and media covers and

1067
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 6: all that.

1068
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: But I think when I hear these types of responses,

1069
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, boy, could you sound any more like a nerd?

1070
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Like or someone who couldn't do it?

1071
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 12: Like?

1072
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: How are we evaluating like what the man.

1073
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: Put on tape for years, years after years and we're saying, oh,

1074
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: it didn't look esthetically pleasing enough.

1075
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't who cares. I don't get the end

1076
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: of that comment, Like, what from Peters? How many catches

1077
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: do you remember?

1078
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 12: I don't.

1079
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, I don't remember a lot of them.

1080
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 6: You don't want to know why because he caught a

1081
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 6: million footballs in his career, Like I don't. I just

1082
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 6: don't get that, man.

1083
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, did Omark Cooper Junior make a hell of a

1084
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: catch against Penn State? Yeah? Did Elijah Saratt make a

1085
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: ton of boring catches that were a huge reason why Indiana.

1086
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna go watch the Iowa game

1087
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: winner Elijah Saratt had, how many times did you see

1088
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: the Iowa game winner for sarat versus the Penn State

1089
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: game winner? You saw the Penn State game winner from

1090
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: Cooper a million times more than you saw Elijah Sarrats play.

1091
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: And they both won a game on the road in

1092
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. At the end of the day, they

1093
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: both were touchdowns. Like, I don't that aspect of the

1094
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: highlight reel. I just don't get that at all.

1095
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 5: I think it's one of those things where they feel

1096
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 5: like and they probably wouldn't say this publicly, but since

1097
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 5: that air uh of the Colts only won one championship.

1098
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 5: They feel like they have to cap it at some point.

1099
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: Would not allowing other guys to get in because you

1100
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: have what Dwight Freenie's already in there, James, Yes, I

1101
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: think that is more of a not saying it's a

1102
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 5: more reasonable take. I think that's dumb too, But I

1103
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 5: think that's more of a valid reason as to why

1104
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 5: they even have this stance, as opposed to saying, well,

1105
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 5: you know, Reggie played with Peyton Manning like Peyton Manning

1106
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 5: played with Reggy Wayne. I mean it wasn't like he

1107
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: was out there throwing a bunch of scrubs. I mean,

1108
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 5: come on now, So we can't like look at Peyton

1109
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 5: and say, oh my gosh, your career was so great,

1110
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 5: which it was. I mean, no one was better at

1111
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 5: the sport at its peak than Peyton Manning. I think

1112
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 5: he's in that conversation peak for peak. He's as good

1113
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 5: as any quarterbacks ever played the game. But you can't

1114
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 5: give him that credit and then take away his counterparks

1115
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 5: and say, well, you know, Peyton Manning would have been

1116
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 5: paid Manning without Reggie Wayne and Marven Harrison junr Are

1117
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 5: we sure?

1118
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: I think so? But like I could say the same

1119
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: thing for the wide receivers, and just to go over

1120
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: a couple of things. For Thursday NFL Honor Show, we'll

1121
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: hear the class announced again, Drew Brees and Larry Fits.

1122
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: They are both on the ballot for the first time

1123
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: this year. I'd be stunned if they weren't first ballot

1124
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Hall of famers. Remember, you have fifty voters. The selectors

1125
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: have to have forty of the fifty votes to get in.

1126
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: You can vote for three once you cut it down

1127
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: to seven. So from a simple math standpoint, it's very

1128
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: difficult now to get back to our five man classes.

1129
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to think when when Dungee and Harrison

1130
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: went in the same class. I think Brett Farva was

1131
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: in their class. There's somebody else, There's a pass rusher.

1132
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: I think, what the hell is Greg Farv down here

1133
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: in their class. You know that was your traditional kind

1134
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: of five man classes. We are getting away from that.

1135
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: It's being more selective. So on Thursday night, in all likelihood,

1136
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: we probably only hear three names. And again the four

1137
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: finalists from last year that are still on the ballot

1138
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: that didn't get in. Willie Anderson, big offensive tackle, Tory Holt,

1139
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: who we just mentioned, Luke Keickley, who is the great,

1140
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: great eight year career with the longevity, and then Adam Vinitari.

1141
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: So you know, if you're looking at a Vinitary Wayne

1142
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: thing for this year, to me, it's probably Venitary more

1143
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: than Wayne. If it's going to be anybody Frank Gore,

1144
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Jason Whitten also on the ballot for the first time,

1145
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: if anyone else is looking out there. And I saw

1146
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Adam Scheffer reported earlier today and this is not in

1147
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: the same category. These are the modern era candidates we've

1148
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: talked about this segment. To go back to the Bill

1149
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: Belichick debate we had last week, Robert Kraft, according to

1150
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, did not get in as a senior contributor,

1151
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: and I believe Mike Chapel said that he voted for Kraft,

1152
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: not Belichick, voted for Craft not Belichick, but based off

1153
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter's reporting, Kraft did not get in. And one

1154
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: final thing, my Chappel will join us Friday morning to

1155
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: discuss this. So again Thursday night, we'll get the announcement.

1156
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: Chap's gonna wake up with us early, which is a

1157
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: rare occurrence.

1158
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne did respond on Twitter last night by saying,

1159
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: I guess the ball caught themselves.

1160
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 4: But anyway, carry on.

1161
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's co from I'm pretty upset. He lets us

1162
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 5: know every year when we talk to him about being

1163
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 5: a semi finalist for the Hall of Fame, how he

1164
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 5: really feels. And it's tough, and Kevin laid it all out.

1165
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 5: It's tougher now for it feels like for a player

1166
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 5: or a modern era or a contributor to the game

1167
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 5: to get in as well. So I think at this point,

1168
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: without Belichick getting in for his ballot Robert Craft, we

1169
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 5: have to ask ourselves will they ever get in?

1170
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: We'll see not this year again. Reggie seventh year on

1171
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: the ballot. I want to say John Lynch as a

1172
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: player was pretty deep on the ballot too. I want

1173
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: to say he was close to about ten years on

1174
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: the ballot before he got in. Drin had to wait

1175
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: a good amount. I don't think as long as Reggie.

1176
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: I believe as a player you're allowed twenty years on

1177
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: the ballot before you then migrate over to that senior contributor,

1178
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: which you know it sounds like based off Belichick and

1179
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: Craft not getting in a lot of those senior players

1180
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: will have gotten in.

1181
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: That is where we're at right now with the Hall

1182
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: of Fame and it's voting, and man, I never want

1183
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: that resipence ability. They sure you don't ever want to

1184
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: be chosen to maybe you're the one day the guy

1185
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: who takes over for Chappie.

1186
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 5: Chap says that to us in the media room, and

1187
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, Nope, I would never want that. It just

1188
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 5: feels like I will waste my time because I mean,

1189
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 5: you could vote in theory and pick three worthy people

1190
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: and still be waiting to get any of them in.

1191
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: Do you think the NFL should broadcast the Hall of

1192
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: Fame like the like they broadcast everything else, for God's sake? Well,

1193
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 3: don't you think we're getting to that point where, like

1194
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: you know what, people probably watch these debates?

1195
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark, I actually, first off, it's like a nine

1196
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: hour zoom call. So that's exactly why the NFL network

1197
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: meets programming. Kevin sounds like I'd rather jump in that

1198
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: snowbank out there, and you know, do it upside down?

1199
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Having said that, I do. I disagree with my Chapel

1200
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: and not voting for Belichick, but I do appreciate chap

1201
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: writing that story last week. I think that should almost

1202
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: be a requirement for each voter. I think transparency. I

1203
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and so I would like to see that,

1204
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, Peter King at least he's speaking on it.

1205
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: I think the comments are I don't know if they're

1206
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller, Peyton Pritchard, Caitlin Clark dumb, but they're certainly

1207
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: up there. But I do thank you for the candor.

1208
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: I guess at least if if nothing else but Mark,

1209
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, man, you're turning off your

1210
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: camera five minutes into any zoom call. Lord knows you're

1211
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: not watching an eight hour zoom No.

1212
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: But I think if there's compelling stuff like I VNOVLA network,

1213
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: like did a live stream of the debate, like.

1214
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not probably the film, should all of a

1215
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: sudden bring out the highlights.

1216
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 3: You're not locked in for that full nine hours, but

1217
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: the juicy stuff will Peter Mike show, Yeah, oh this

1218
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: is why we didn't vote for Bill Belichick.

1219
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: Tony at Judy Batista.

1220
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 5: I do wonder how do they pick the voters for

1221
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 5: that is, should there be a cap as to how

1222
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 5: long you do it? For example, how old is Bill Polly,

1223
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 5: and he's in his eighties. He probably needs to be

1224
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: hanging it up. Not like as far as well, yeah,

1225
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 5: as far as voting, he should be done.

1226
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: This isn't this, This isn't the Supreme Court. These aren't lifetime.

1227
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, commitments, I think you get they should have like

1228
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 5: terms or something like that when it comes to your

1229
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 5: ability to vote, because then you get like, I think

1230
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 5: you probably get like what's the word, You get like

1231
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 5: a stalemate or something like that, where you have people

1232
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 5: who are dug into whoever they're going to vote for,

1233
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 5: and you're probably never gonna get any progress. So what's

1234
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: the point of that, Like, if we run this back

1235
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 5: next year, we're gonna have the same conversation about how

1236
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 5: guys didn't get in because.

1237
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 6: You voted the same exact way. Again, it's very interesting

1238
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 6: to me.

1239
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: I suppose you could say Bill Belichick is in a hall.

1240
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: It just happens to be a strip mall in Florida somewhere, right, Mark,

1241
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: that's kind of what's going on.

1242
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: With him, Jordan, you think I look good in this,

1243
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: not Belichick?

1244
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: Right, I'm sorry craft Craft Right, Belichick was.

1245
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: About there for a second, and I was like, oh boy, Belichick.

1246
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: I know, No, No, Belichick's celebrating on the sand right now.

1247
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: I think which body.

1248
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: Works is another sale? Jordan, we can use some more soaps.

1249
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: I swear I bought my mom something from Bath and

1250
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: body Works for like ten straight Christmases. I think I

1251
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: bought every candle in there.

1252
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: I want your brother lifetime returns from what I hear.

1253
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, you have that thing down to like

1254
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: the wick and you're like, Nope, didn't care for it.

1255
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: Wow, that's good to know. Is Bath and body Works

1256
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: still a thing? You think?

1257
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 8: So?

1258
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 10: Is the one?

1259
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: A Navon's still running good enough? Valentine's DA's around the corner. Boys,

1260
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: you guys laughing, let's go, let's go.

1261
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: H but we'll find out Thursday who's going to get

1262
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. And to your point, Kevin,

1263
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: it just feels like Reggie's getting farther and farther away

1264
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: when you hear people like Peter King come out and

1265
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: say stuff like that.

1266
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, I don't think Peter King's in the

1267
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: minority in that room, I think, which is kind of

1268
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: crazy when you think about it. It is wide receiver

1269
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: to be fair to that position. Mark has always he's

1270
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: been one where there seems to be a log jam.

1271
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, Marvin Harrison had to wait three years. Marvin's

1272
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: resume is much better than Reggie's if you want to

1273
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: compare the two, and Marvin had to wait three years. Yeah,

1274
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Marvin had to wait for I think it was Andre Reid.

1275
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: Like you want to compare those two, they're not. I mean,

1276
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: Tory Holton Reggy Wayne are very even if you really

1277
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: want to look at their resumes, they both if you

1278
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: want to play Peter King's analogy here, they both played

1279
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: with the you know, great quarterback and had the Isaac

1280
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: Bruce opposite, had the Marvin Harrison opposite all that one

1281
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl I think for each so I think wide

1282
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: receiver and unfortunately wide receivers going nowhere. You know, we're

1283
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: only going to get great resumes running back like Frank Gore,

1284
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: I think we'll continue his resume will continue to get

1285
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: better because we're not going to get as many great

1286
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: running back made me a Hall of Fame running back,

1287
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: like in the NFL, Henry McCaffrey, maybe Jonathan Taylor, and

1288
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: then they Barkley and Taylor are probably on that next

1289
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: tier of like they need to do it for you know,

1290
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: a handful more years, whereas wide receivers is different with

1291
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: how much the passing games emphasize in the NFL. Well,

1292
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: that's the one thing with the Hall of Fame too,

1293
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: is they always are like positionally, they're always like only

1294
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: one can get in. Like it was weird that Irlacker

1295
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Speaker 1: and ray Lewis got in in the same year because

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Speaker 1: it was just like, nope, it's got to be one.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, that's where you get that log jam.

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Speaker 3: And that's why guys end up winning multiple decades or

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Speaker 3: once they're passed on in this world, which is only.

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Speaker 1: Going to grow, right because we now are shrinking the classes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're no longer going with the five man classes, so

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Speaker 1: you know that's only going to be more and more.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's check it down Mark Dychon and let

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Speaker 4: everybody know what's going on right now.

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Speaker 2: Heard it here on the fan last night ninety three five,

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00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: one oh seven five The Fan. The Pacers had a

1312
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 2: lead fairly late in the game against the Rockets, ended

1313
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: up losing one to eighteen to one fourteen Rockets had

1314
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: a twelve to two run then the middle part to

1315
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: late part of the fourth quarter.

1316
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 4: A lot of that taking place at the free throw line.

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 2: But really, James no answer for Opera and Shongoon and

1318
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: the play inside. Last night the Pacers the Rocket center

1319
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: at thirty nine points. He was thirteen of eighteen from

1320
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Speaker 2: the free throw line, eight of twelve from the line

1321
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Speaker 2: in that fourth quarter. That was enough to overcome Siakams

1322
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: twenty seven and also Benedict Matherins twenty four points. But

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: man glaring hole in the middle when they play these

1324
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Speaker 2: good centers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was rough when you look at the center

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Speaker 5: position for the Pacers, And does that make you want

1327
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Speaker 5: to make a move Come Thursday's trade.

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01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 2: Deadline tonight they'll try again take it on the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 4: That one starts at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: You can hear the air the airtime for the pregame

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Speaker 2: show six thirty right here in ninety three five and

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Speaker 2: one oh seven five the Fan, And we'll see how

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Speaker 2: they do on a back to back this evening.

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Speaker 4: Also late line eight.

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Speaker 1: O'clock tomorrow, So back to back, like you said, Jeff

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01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: so Rick Carlin, well eight am tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty early on the heels, and back to back too,

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: getting it done.

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Speaker 1: That man operates differently, all right.

1340
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Speaker 2: College basketball Late tonight, Indiana takes on USC on the

1341
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: Peacock Network.

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01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 4: Mark Dyton starts at ten pm tonight. Pacers. I'm sorry, the.

1343
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: Indiana Hoosiers on a three game winning streak right now, Rutgers, Purdue, Ucla,

1344
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: then the teams that they have run down so far,

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01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,479
Speaker 2: and when you start to look ahead to what they've

1346
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: got on the schedule coming up, they could still make

1347
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: some more hay too before they get back into the

1348
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: hard stuff of taking on some of the higher rated teams.

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Speaker 4: In the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say it's Wisconsin at home, Oregon

1351
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: at home the next two and tonight is a quad

1352
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: one road win. You know, I know it's not maybe

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: the marque nature of a Purdue obviously or whatever Michigan,

1354
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: Michigan States some of these upper upper echelon teams in

1355
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: the Big Town, but still would be huge for the resume.

1356
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: And I think it's a little house money, you know,

1357
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: not that they're comfortably in the field, but they're you know,

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01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: out of the Dayton portion of bracketologies right now. So

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Speaker 1: great chance for Indiana tonight out West.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then after they play you mentioned USC and

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01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Oregon, then they've got Illinois and Purdue back

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Speaker 2: to back.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Purdue.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to play Indiana again after what happened last week,

1365
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 2: and they're starting to try and get themselves together as well.

1366
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Speaker 2: But that's to night ten pm on the Peacock Network.

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Speaker 2: We've also got news from mary and University Jakes Wood.

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Speaker 1: What do we know?

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01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: Pat Knight has resigned at mary And he said the

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Speaker 2: administration wanted him to fire someone, so he quit. At

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Speaker 2: this point in time, we think he'll be on with

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Speaker 2: Jay Query this afternoon to talk about this a little

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Speaker 2: bit more, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then that's all I know.

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Speaker 6: I have no idea what to expect or what to

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01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 6: think he will say, which is why you should tune in.

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Speaker 1: Just provide a little bit more context around that. Pet

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Speaker 1: Night to get ejected from their game. On Saturday, they

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01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: lost to Goshen Ghoshen I believe had lost fifty some

1380
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: straight conference games, so quite the big upset. In that one.

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Speaker 1: Pat Knight got tossed in the first half there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw the video of it. I would say a

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: very deserving tossing if I if I'm gonna mention that

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01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: separate technicals there, Todd Howard, his assistant, then took over

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: Todd Howard that name you know, Ipy or buff uh

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01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: here locally.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It got chippy. Then at the end of the game

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Speaker 1: with Pat Knight in the locker room, you know, between

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Speaker 1: the handshake line, Todd Howard went off, so I I

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm afraid we're in, he said. She said,

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be totally honest with you on this,

1393
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: so I'll be curious how and it's just super unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: You know, Pat Knight went to go play or coach

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: at Marion where Steve Downing, of course is the athletic

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: director there. So the IU background speaks for itself. So yeah,

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01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: middle of year two here they're five and seventeen as

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01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: a team, sixteen and thirty four and two years so

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01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: sounds like NBA scouting getting back into that world is

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Speaker 1: what Pat Knight wants to do. Based off that, Kyle

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: and then rip piece overnight.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's what's happening locally. The Super Bowl is

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 2: starting to take center stage. It'll be played in Santa

1404
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: Clara at the home field of the San Francisco forty

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01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: nine ers. Of course, the New England Patriots and the

1406
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: AFC taking on the Seattle Seahawks in the NFC was

1407
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: looking again last night, the line still minus four and

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Speaker 2: a half for the Seahawks. I just don't feel like

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Speaker 2: that's enough, James. I don't know, especially if Drake May's

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Speaker 2: coming off the sore shoulder. They had trouble even in

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: the first half before the weather came against granted a

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Speaker 2: very good Denver defense.

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Speaker 4: Feels like Seattle's just rolling right now. Four and a

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Speaker 4: half just doesn't seem.

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Speaker 9: Enough to me.

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Speaker 5: Ooh, I don't know if I can go any further

1417
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 5: than that myself the Super Bowl. Neither quarterback has been

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Speaker 5: there before. Yeah, I think I'm good with that line.

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Speaker 5: We'll see the Chines over the next couple of days though.

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Speaker 4: All Right.

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Speaker 2: The NFL announcing that they will play international football games

1422
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: in nine different times this year, three times in London.

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Speaker 2: They announced the new editions this past week. Paris is

1424
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: going to get a game. Yesterday they said Mexico City's

1425
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: going to get a game. We've got Australia, We've got Spain,

1426
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Speaker 2: we've got Germany, and eventually Roger Goodell says Kevin, he

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Speaker 2: wants sixteen games every year where all thirty two teams

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Speaker 2: take part somewhere outside the borders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, I'm a little bit more of a fan of

1431
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: the international games than most. You know, I think if

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Speaker 1: the FL team gives up a home game, I've kind

1433
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: always been under the impression of every fourth year you

1434
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: give up a home game. You play every other you

1435
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: do a home game every fourth year. That is kind

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Speaker 1: of what I like. You know, I've been feeling the

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01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: NFL probably wants a little bit more on that. So

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Speaker 1: we'll wait official.

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 6: Carl Roger and tell him your reasoning.

1440
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, we dial up Commissioner Goodell online. One Roger.

1441
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Speaker 4: That's a.

1442
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: Him before, not not with him. He happened to be

1443
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Speaker 1: in the group behind.

1444
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 6: See that's the problem. You know, you tell a story,

1445
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 6: you gotta let me too.

1446
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 4: On a store said he.

1447
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: Was leaving the premises, and then we saw him at

1448
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: dinner later that night, so it was a little confused.

1449
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: Story's not totally adding up listening.

1450
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 6: This is Kevin's trying to tell us that he really

1451
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 6: ain't that rich, but you know he's rolling.

1452
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Uh Clint coobiack golf course.

1453
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: To be very clear on this, Clint Kubiak expected to

1454
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: become the next head coach for the Las Vegas Raiders.

1455
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: He is currently the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks.

1456
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: He was asked about that yesterday and during his media session,

1457
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: James said it quote, I can just tell you I'm

1458
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,959
Speaker 2: all in on the sex. I'm all in on this game,

1459
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: and whatever comes next, we'll deal with that on Monday.

1460
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: He just doesn't want to talk about it right now.

1461
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 6: Don't have to talk about it once.

1462
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 5: You already got everything lined up for you to get

1463
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 5: a nice pay raise, nice promotion after Super Bowl.

1464
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: And Kevin, people from around here will recognize the name

1465
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: of the new defensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans, will

1466
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Speaker 2: they not?

1467
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley. Him and Robert Sala very close. They were

1468
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: with each other in San Francisco last year. I saw

1469
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: Robert Sala the new head coach there. What Brian daball Right,

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for Camp Ward. I believe so that

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Speaker 1: announcement in Tennessee. A couple of Colt nata. On other side,

1472
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: we can mention this a couple of Colts staff change

1473
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: is we should probably hit on a week got another

1474
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: side and for anybody that watched last night, Darren Peterson

1475
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: some big time shots there as Kansas came back to

1476
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 1: beat Texas Tech. And the interesting note on the NBA

1477
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: draft prospect. He played thirty five minutes, which for him

1478
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: is a ton of minutes with all the drama that's

1479
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: been there. CJ. Moore from the Athletic Talk a little

1480
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: college basketball. He'll join us coming up here in the

1481
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. I believe he was at Kansas BYU over

1482
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: the weekend. I find that Titans coaching staff fascinating. Maybe

1483
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: that's just me solid, Dable and Guss.

1484
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, got three former head coaches in that final, completely fascinating.

1485
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 4: Two guys who maybe should be coordinators though.

1486
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see what works.

1487
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're a Titans fan, I feel like

1488
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 5: I would be pretty I'll be feeling pretty optimistic about

1489
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 5: the direction.

1490
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Speaker 6: Of my franchise.

1491
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: I'd still be pissed about Mike Rabel.

1492
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 6: Well, you can't go back too far in time.

1493
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 9: Right.

1494
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't think Mike's thinking about that right now. He's

1495
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: getting ready for the Super Bowl taking on the Seattle Seahawks.

1496
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 4: Kevin.

1497
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Speaker 2: We've got some high school basketball for girls coming up

1498
01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: later on tonight, starting this week.

1499
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, girls basketball sectional underway, so fingers crossed. We don't

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01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: get any sectional snow here usually for the boys. We

1501
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: get that. So it looks like decent weathery're around the

1502
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: state there, So sexual playoff is up tonight.

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: All right, anything else you guys want to throw him?

1504
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 4: Before we had to break Mark Techton, you got anything

1505
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: over there?

1506
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: I got Jack Diddley.

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01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: You and Jack have a good commercial break and we'll

1508
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: talk about some sports next ninety three five and one

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Speaker 2: to seven five the fan.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: But if you are listening to a fan morning show

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Speaker 11: on sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Groove and through a Tuesday morning, here at the Fan

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Speaker 2: Morning Show coming up at nine thirty bout an hour

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Speaker 2: from now.

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Speaker 10: CJ.

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01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 2: Moore from the Athletic we'll talk some college basketball with us.

1518
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: We got the super Bowl coming up later on this week. Also,

1519
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: we'll find out on Thursday who gets into the Pro

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01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. We're keeping an eye on Reggie Wayne.

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01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: We'll keeping an eye on Adam mit Terry and Frank

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: Gore as well. Any of do they go O for three?

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Speaker 4: Kevin? Do you think when it's all said.

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Speaker 1: Done, Venetari is the one that I'm curious about, But

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01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: again I'm not necessarily holding my breath.

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: Well, so we'll keep an eye on that trade deadline

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01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: coming up on Thursday, and we've been talking about how

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: this might affect the Pacers, specifically Benedict Matherin this morning,

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01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: but keeping an eye on the Division two and one

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: of the great players of the generation.

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 4: Is Giannis Antanakoupo, a Milwaukee Buck. When he wakes up

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 4: on Friday morning, James.

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 6: Now I could be wrong on that.

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01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 5: There's just my guess, but it feels like moving a

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01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 5: player of that magnitude mid season just doesn't happen very often.

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01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 5: And if I'm a team who's interested in Yannis, or

1539
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 5: if I'm the Bucks for that matter, I probably want

1540
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 5: to wait and just see all of the cards. Where

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 5: are we drafting, who's drafting? Where does that dictate how

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01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 5: I would move him in the offseason, So very curiously

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01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 5: how it plays out, though, keep in mind that he

1544
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 5: is injured right now, so he would be able to

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 5: play for a while. And that's also another thing that's

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 5: interesting to me when it comes to Giannis is I'm

1547
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 5: not doubting how great of a player he is.

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01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 6: I think he's one of the greatest players ever.

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 5: He was already selected as the top seventy five player

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01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 5: a few years ago in NBA history. But he's had

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 5: injury issues the last few years, and it's always it

1552
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 5: seems like his legs that kind of give out on

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 5: him when it comes to this time.

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01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 4: Of the year.

1555
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: So are you willing to bet your future on that?

1556
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 2: We'll see the other guy to keep an eye on.

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: Just I'm fascinated by his career arc and how it's

1558
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: worked out. James Harden, who clearly is an unbelievably talented guy.

1559
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: He is now according to several insider reports at Networks,

1560
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: he and the Clippers are exploring all options for his

1561
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: potential exit from the Clippers, whether it's through.

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01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 4: Trade or a buyout or whatever. Keep this in mind,

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01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 4: Kevin Bonen.

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: James Harden has opted out of his player option three

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 2: different times in his career, which he's got the right

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: to do. No shade there, but he's also been traded

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 2: four times, usually at his own request, and it just

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 2: seems like every time he gets to someplace and gets

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: his money for a couple of years, I want to

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: go to a different situation all of a sudden, What

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01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: do you do if you're a potential team, what do

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:12,839
Speaker 2: you get.

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01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 4: With James Harden for the rest of this season?

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: Well, you get a great player.

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 6: He has been very good this year. I don't want

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01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 6: to dismiss that. I think he's to averaging like twenty five.

1577
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, statistically to rip it.

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01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 5: So most players aren't doing that, no matter what age

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 5: they are. And I guess the reports at least from

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 5: the Athletic and ESPN last night were that there is

1581
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 5: some talk between the Clippers and the Cavaliers swapping Darius

1582
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 5: Garland for James Harden. Darius Garland is younger, two time

1583
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 5: All Star, I believe, but cat some injury issues. And

1584
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 5: then James hard is older, more accomplished, But do you

1585
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 5: trust him in the playoffs at this point in his career.

1586
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 5: So I'm very fascinated to see how it all kind

1587
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 5: of plays out. But whatever happens, it will most likely

1588
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 5: have to be a trade though buying him out that

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01:11:59,000 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 5: ain't gonna happen.

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 6: He's making in way too much money.

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 4: For that and guaranteed too.

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's what's going on. And keep an

1593
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: eye on with the NBA trade deadline. I mentioned if

1594
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: you're just joining us. Never heard the discussion earlier today.

1595
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 2: Benedict Mathern seems to be the guy that I would

1596
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 2: think most other NBA teams would be attracted to if

1597
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: the Pacers are trying to acquire front court help at

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: this point in time.

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01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the expiring contract I think is the

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01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: biggest thing there. I mean he is a restricted free agent.

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01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 1: We got a lot into it in the seven thirty

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01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,839
Speaker 1: segment there. I am, you know, probably a little biased

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: in the Matherin fandom that I've had. I think all

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01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: three of us, I think I'll be on that. Can

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01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: I be the vice president of that fan club?

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01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 4: Sure?

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: I like Benedic Mathern. I think he adds a lot

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: to this team. I think, you know, you go down

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: what we talked about too. Does he get tired of

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: not getting starters minutes at some point time when Haliburton

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01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: comes back and you've got n. E. Smith and you've

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01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 2: got em hard, and you've got Matherin, Now, how does

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01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: that work out for him?

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01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't necessarily see trading a player of

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: his skill level for some of the centers kind of

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01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: thrown out there. I know Tony East discussed that last

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01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: week with us. I think there's a bit of a

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01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: misconception in what players on rookie contracts like Matherens deal

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01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: net in these trades. Ironically, LORI Marknen who will see tonight.

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: I assume he's gonna play, but maybe not. You know,

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: even he's turned out to be a really nice player

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA, an All Star level player. I mean,

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01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: he was one of these guys traded back on his

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01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: rookie deal. So I'll be curious that I know it

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: teased it in the break prior, so I just want

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 1: to make sure you mentioned it. Colt staff changes we

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: know about. We know their defensive line coach has gone.

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: Charlie Partridge to Notre Dame, so we'll see that, and

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: then James the Ravens have taken I guess the analytics dude,

1630
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,919
Speaker 1: Charlie Gelman, the dude in the ear of Shane Steichen

1631
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: on game days. So I know, I don't know if

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01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: there's a thing football fans hate more than their coach

1633
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: going for fourth down or kicking field goals or choosing

1634
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: not to kick field goals. So I feel like every

1635
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: football fan out there hates that person even though they

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01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: don't know he or she exists.

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01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 5: So basically, you're just outing him. Now, you're saying you

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01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 5: can raise the pitch for the guy.

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01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: And they'll hate the next person. No matter who they hire,

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: they'll hate that next person, right.

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know Charlie got a shout out.

1642
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 5: I believe it was the last game of the season,

1643
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 5: Kevin when the Colts had the fake punt from I

1644
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 5: think it was rego through the past to Maley Cox,

1645
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 5: help catch it, get the first down, and they stay

1646
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 5: on the ball and keep their unit out there and

1647
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 5: go for it again and end up picking up some

1648
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 5: more yards and a penalty on the Texans because they

1649
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 5: didn't change their units. And that was a play that

1650
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 5: I believe at the time, Shane Stiken gave credit to

1651
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 5: Charlie and the analytics crew for kind of dialing that

1652
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 5: one up so interesting play design. I did wish him

1653
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 5: the best in his future with Baltimore.

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 6: He's a good dude.

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 5: I've had good interactions with them over the last couple

1656
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 5: of years, and he's off to a new opportunity.

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: He does has history at the Ravens for those curious,

1658
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,959
Speaker 1: and I believe they also named him a defensive assistant.

1659
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's gonna be any more

1660
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: of a you know, actual offense or defense side of it.

1661
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: So as of now, that's it officially for the Colts.

1662
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: But again, we still got dominoes to fall.

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: We know that Clint Kobiak and Michael Fluer by the

1665
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: final two head coaches. But you know, you've got staffs

1666
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: that need to be assembled. You know, are there any

1667
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: more dominoes?

1668
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 11: You know?

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: For example, Seattle now needs an offense coordinator, an offense

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: coordinator that calls plays, so you know that would be

1671
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: I would think relatively attractive.

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01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 13: You know.

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01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: Does Jim Bob Cooter's name pop up there? Does Alex

1674
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: Tanny's name pop up there? Those two both reportedly have

1675
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: interviewed with the Giants, which that OC job remains open.

1676
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: So it typically once we get the combine, which wildly

1677
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: is three weeks from today, it starts, uh, that is

1678
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: there for real? Oh my gosh, three weeks from today

1679
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: we will be out the NFL combine. Yeah, crazy just

1680
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: keeps comming, James. Life comes at you fast that it does.

1681
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 5: I mean, boy, every time I think that we have

1682
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 5: an off season, I kind of forget. The NFL does

1683
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 5: not believe in.

1684
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 4: That three hundred and sixty five days a year. Ay man,

1685
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 4: if they could do it for three sixty six, they'd

1686
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 4: go there on leap here.

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: I suppose they really would.

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01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: All right, coming up in just a moment for you

1689
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: IU football fans, No, we are not done celebrating that

1690
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: national championship. And there's still a way you can be

1691
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: a part of getting some good memorabilia. We'll tell you

1692
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: all about it next ninety three five and one oh

1693
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 2: seven five The Fan. More basketball coming here way tonight

1694
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: ninety three five, one oh seven five The Fan. The

1695
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: Pacers play a second night of a back to back

1696
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 2: at home.

1697
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 4: Last night.

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01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: They came up a little bit short against the Houston Rockets,

1699
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: but back against the Utah Jazz later on tonight.

1700
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 4: Do we have any issues with guys?

1701
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 2: I know we've had so many injuries this year, James,

1702
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 2: anybody with issues on back to back nights, So you

1703
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: could see maybe taking this one off or playing real

1704
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: limited minutes for the Pacers.

1705
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 5: Tonight, Pascal, possibly you got your All Star nine? Do

1706
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 5: we start looking to those minutes a little bit closer?

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01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: Well, the last back to back they sat quite a few.

1708
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: Not just remember that Pistons game they sat?

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 6: That is true.

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I am curious. Is this now the new

1711
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: back to back plan for them moving forward?

1712
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 4: We'll find out tonight. The pregame starts at six point thirty.

1713
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: They'll give you all those details in the game itself

1714
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: tips off at seven o'clock. Of course, the Indiana Hoosier

1715
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: football team still kind of basking in all of the

1716
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: aftermath of winning the national championship a little more than

1717
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: a week ago, as they have been making as I see,

1718
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza seems to be on everybody's podcast or nighttime.

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01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 4: Show, whatever it is.

1720
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: But people still pretty excited about that, including our next guest,

1721
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: Bob Iback is back to talk a little bit about

1722
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: these National Championship footballs that you can still order. There

1723
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: were five thousand of the made limited edition. They are

1724
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: running out quickly and getting towards the end. Bob joins

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: us now in the Payless Liokers hotline. Good morning, Bob,

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 2: are you still feeling the enthusiasm of the Hoosiers championship.

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01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 10: Oh it's up down here in the Chicago area. They're

1728
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 10: certainly not feeling enthusiasm about Northwest in football. But I

1729
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 10: always tell him, I said, you know, look, look, look

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01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 10: to your neighbors.

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 4: Look what they did.

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 10: They'll turn around in two years and what an amazing story.

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 10: Sixteen and o season national champions for the first time

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01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 10: in school history. And everywhere I talk to folks in

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01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 10: the sports world these days. My son's with the Tampa

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01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 10: Bay Ray, so I get on he's assistant general manager

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01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 10: down there, so they're even talking about it down there.

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01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 10: He was set a speaking engagement the other day in

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01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 10: Philly and at his old school, LaSalle, and they were asking,

1740
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 10: no question, what's going on with Indiana. Well, I wanted

1741
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 10: to get back to you today because, like you mentioned,

1742
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 10: we start out with five thousand of these full size

1743
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 10: limited edition footballs. That's raising moneys for extra yard for teachers.

1744
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 10: Total raised moneys for teachers in the state of Indiana.

1745
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 10: I checked in with Niko Sports this morning. We only

1746
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 10: have a couple hundred of these left. And I would

1747
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 10: urge people when I give out that toll free up

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01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 10: our website in just a moment. You're going to want

1749
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 10: to do this today or tomorrow because these things will

1750
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 10: be gone probably by the weekend coming up. There are

1751
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 10: one hundred and twenty nine dollars and ninety five cents each.

1752
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 10: You'll get an individually number certificate of authenticity, and right

1753
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 10: there in one of the panels has that big National

1754
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 10: champions Ship logo for the college football playoffs and the

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 10: big win over Miami and the undefeated season is on

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01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 10: a panel right below that with the scores of dates,

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01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 10: the opponents of every game the Hoosiers played this year,

1758
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 10: right next to a really good look at Indiana University helmet.

1759
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 10: We also have the Big ten logo on air for

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01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 10: that championship and another panel, and then we have some

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01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 10: football facts, the Indiana logo and more history on another panel.

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 10: Everything is embossed on this football, so it'll keep at

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01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 10: pristine looking. You never have to worry about these fading

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 10: from the sun. I've got a bunch of their products

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01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 10: over the year. Some of the ones I got ten

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01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 10: years ago look brand new. So here's an idea for

1767
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 10: When you go to the website, you can also download

1768
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 10: a gift certificate and for Valentine's Day coming up, or

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01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 10: maybe a graduation coming up in college. This would be

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01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 10: the ideal gift to give. There again, one hundred and

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01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 10: twenty nine dollars and ninety five cents. Here are the

1772
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 10: two ways you can order these today. The toll free

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01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 10: number is eight hundred three four five two eight six eight.

1774
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 10: Again that's eight hundred three four five twenty eight sixty eight.

1775
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 10: Or simply go right to the website. You can see

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01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 10: it there at stunning nicosports dot com. It's spelled nik

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01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 10: coosports dot com. That's nik coosports dot com. Or again

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01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 10: that phone number eight hundred three four five twenty eight

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01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 10: sixty eight. I wouldn't delay because we're down the last

1780
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 10: several hundred of these out of five thousand, and if

1781
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,520
Speaker 10: anything is in history, I've seen some of these footballs

1782
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 10: for other championship, for the college football playoffs. You go

1783
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 10: on eBay and you see them five years later, they're

1784
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 10: double and triple the price, Bob.

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 1: By visiting that website, people can see the pictures because

1786
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: I remember the original email that we got. Certainly the

1787
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: pictures I think paint you know, kind of an ideal

1788
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: situation there exactly what people are getting.

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01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, it really it really looks really classic, and I

1790
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 10: love the colors in it, and that championship logo is

1791
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 10: just just unbelievable. I guarantee you. You know, I've got

1792
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 10: a couple of these in my man k from my

1793
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 10: years with the Chicago Cubs in baseball. And when people

1794
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 10: come in and see some of the products and the

1795
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 10: stunning look of it being embossed on there, they just

1796
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 10: look at it and say, Wow, where did you get

1797
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 10: that football or basketball or baseball bat or whatever the

1798
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 10: case may be. They really do a nice job. They've

1799
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 10: been in business since nineteen ninety two, and I know

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,919
Speaker 10: in the last six years and Nico Sports has donated

1801
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 10: over a three point four million dollars to various charities,

1802
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 10: and I know as part of that a couple hundred

1803
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 10: thousand dollars of gone back to school teachers on the

1804
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 10: college football playoffs.

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01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, all you have to do is say,

1806
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 5: you know, if you don't get shorge, you can't have mine.

1807
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 5: Right basically how it goes. You know, everyone goes to

1808
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 5: your house and sees how beautiful these things are.

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if you are you offering any or.

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 6: Is this the opportunity to make that call.

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: For you.

1812
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 4: Come on over.

1813
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 2: I just wanted James also wants to know how come

1814
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 2: that game against Illinois back on the early part of

1815
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 2: the season isn't like in bigger block letters or highlighted.

1816
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: Oh some way, James, you could have left that one off.

1817
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 12: You know what.

1818
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 10: I am not an Illinois fan. I came here in

1819
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 10: nineteen eighty one when I joined the Cubs for ten

1820
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 10: years in their front office, and I'm in the University

1821
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 10: of Maryland grad. I play a little ball there. Basketball

1822
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 10: back in the my son calls it the dark Ages

1823
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 10: in nineteen sixties, but we did have a round basketball.

1824
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 10: I tell them, I said it wasn't square.

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01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: All right, Bob always going to talk to you good luck,

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01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you against him.

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01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 10: Okay, you guys, have a great day, and thanks again

1828
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 10: for your help and support.

1829
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 2: You bet again, you want one of those memorabilia pieces.

1830
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 2: It's football eight hundred three four five two eight six

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01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: eight eight hundred three four five two eight six eight.

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01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people still every day I'm getting emails

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01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: or notes saying, hey, how do I get that?

1834
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: Footballs? But they're starting to get short on.

1835
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: Them in just a couple hundred left out of the

1836
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: five thousand, So we wanted to make sure you had

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: your chance to do that.

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01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 5: Unless you want to go Ray Bob's house with me,

1839
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 5: you's probably get online and do it the right way.

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01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 4: Now, will you wipe out the Indiana line or the

1841
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 4: Illinois line for it?

1842
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1843
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 5: I feel you should circle it. That's when the season

1844
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 5: changed for IU. You beat a rank program about fifty. Hey,

1845
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 5: we're for real, you know, I'm looking at this.

1846
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: They had four games against Big ten opponents where they

1847
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: scored fifty or more. Illinois was ranked at the time,

1848
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 2: and then of course Maryland maybe not that great UCLA.

1849
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: I think that's also when we started, since they go

1850
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 2: on the road play a member. I think you said

1851
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: I had won four games in a row at that

1852
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 2: point in time.

1853
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 5: Look, all I'm saying is after they be mom and

1854
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 5: monitor bout fifty album as a believer.

1855
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 2: There you go, all right again? Eight hundred three, four, five, two, eight,

1856
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: six eight. You want to get in on that. Coming

1857
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: up to the next hour, we'll talk college basketball with CJ.

1858
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: Moore from the Athletic As teams really either cement their

1859
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: resume over the next couple of weeks or they build

1860
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: their resume. What does that mean for both Purdue and

1861
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: Indiana and anybody else in the area that might be

1862
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: just on the outside looking in. Right now, it's all

1863
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: straight ahead as we continue the Van Moarning Show ninety

1864
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: three to five and one oh.

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Speaker 1: Hold it down, Come out, Come out.

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 11: You were listening to a fan morning show on sports

1867
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 11: Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven five.

1868
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 10: The fan.

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01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 4: People are paying attention.

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Mark dyked and Jordan and Carmel texted us at two

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01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: three nine ten seventy on the fan text line and said,

1872
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 2: did not have bood Had Gang on my Bingo card

1873
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: this morning?

1874
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 4: Nice work, nice classic right there.

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01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 3: I suggest all kids pre pebescent and forward you get

1876
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 3: some learning education from the Blood Hung Gang with their songs.

1877
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: How big?

1878
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 4: How many songs on your Spotify collection? Any idea you

1879
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: ever look?

1880
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean I could glance, I would guess it's in

1881
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: the thousands, so.

1882
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,839
Speaker 4: It's gotta be like tens of thousands.

1883
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 3: I would probably I sprayed all fields. I'm eclectic anything

1884
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: but country for the most part.

1885
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 4: Can we get a cut? Can we get an isolated cut?

1886
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 4: If you say and I spray to all fields?

1887
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: Can we mean, that's my ringtone usually, but yeah, that's fine.

1888
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 4: It's the Fan Morning show.

1889
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: That's Mark Dychton, irresponsible for all the good stuff you

1890
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 2: hear in the background, and Jade and James Boyd joining

1891
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 2: us as always. Feeling full full strength again after missing

1892
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: a couple days last week, you good.

1893
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just sick of y'all. I was like, man,

1894
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 6: I was all for a couple of weeks ago.

1895
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: I can get used to this, but nah, it was bad.

1896
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 8: I was.

1897
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 5: I was down bad for a while there, and you know,

1898
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 5: I called the family let them know what was going

1899
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 5: on in my proceeded to call me pretty much every

1900
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 5: day after that, working the nerves, and I al still

1901
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 5: I heard.

1902
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 6: It ain't making me feel no better either. You open

1903
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 6: my phone, bills no more.

1904
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 5: So we're gonna have to work something out where you

1905
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 5: get off this phone working these nerves.

1906
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: But no, I feel much better.

1907
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 9: Good.

1908
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: We're glad to have you back.

1909
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen at is Super Bowl Week scale of one

1910
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: to ten, how interested are you in the storylines in

1911
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: the game itself. I know, I think we're all interested

1912
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: in the game on Sunday, but throughout the week, what's

1913
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: your interest in the storylines and all the things that

1914
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: come out of Super Bowl Week that we've been talking about,

1915
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: whether it's Hall of Fame announcements, whether it's coordinators going

1916
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: to new teams, all those kinds of things. The announcement

1917
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 2: of all the International Games in total, nine.

1918
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 4: Of them this year.

1919
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: When you look at that as an NFL reporter, a

1920
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: cult's beat writer, what's your interest?

1921
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a lot. If I'm gonna be totally honest

1922
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: with you, Obviously, you know, when I get to Sunday,

1923
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: I'll be ready to go and probably more looking forward

1924
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 1: to the spread than anything. But and that would be

1925
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: the food spread, not the spread of the game. But

1926
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, part of that probably comes with just the

1927
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: cults and the lack of you know, involvement in a

1928
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 1: lot of these things. I mean, obviously the coaching hires

1929
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: that are not in the International Games. You know, we'll

1930
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: see how it plays out, but I don't think they're

1931
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: a definite lot to be playing in any of them,

1932
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: you know. I I do think in regards to the

1933
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: two teams, I think there are some interesting elements if

1934
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: you compare them, you know, from a colt's side of it.

1935
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about you know Seattle and

1936
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: you know the Pete Carroll era. I don't know if

1937
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 1: you guys have kind of racked the brain back to this,

1938
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: but you know there's a little bit of I go

1939
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: back to the question Carli er Say Gordon asked Chris

1940
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: Ballard back in late December. She asked him about the

1941
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Speaker 1: is it the juju or the shimmer? I want to

1942
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Speaker 1: make sure I have those words correct, right, Yeah, the juju?

1943
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Do you still have the shimmer? That to me is

1944
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: a question The Seahawks and John Schneider, their longtime g

1945
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: and would have asked Pete Carroll a couple of years ago.

1946
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: You know, you've been here for a decade. You've had

1947
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: great success. They reached the mountaintop obviously very early in

1948
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: Carroll's tenure there. But that to me was a question

1949
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: because if you look at the final couple of years

1950
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Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll and Seattle, they were not awful seasons.

1951
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 1: I want to say they were right at five hundred,

1952
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: if not better than five hundred. But yet they decided

1953
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Speaker 1: to move on from one of the more accomplished football

1954
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: coaches we've seen bar none, certainly when you combine the

1955
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: college and the NFL, resume to it and they hire

1956
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Speaker 1: a guy and Mike McDonald, who I don't think there

1957
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: was a you know, a fanfare of people wanting to

1958
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Speaker 1: hire Mike McDonald and look how they've benefited. And now

1959
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: look at the flip side of it. In New England,

1960
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: they move on from Belichick and they hire a beloved

1961
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: patriot in Girod Mayo. A lot of people felt like

1962
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: he had kind of been groomed for the job and

1963
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: they said enough was enough. After one season they did

1964
01:28:54,280 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: the Nate Bjorkren thing with the Pacers, and in case

1965
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: again his track record with the franchise much richer than

1966
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Nate b Yorker and of course with the Pacers, but

1967
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: they moved on and they got Mike Rabel and the

1968
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: rest is history. And if you look at the Pacers,

1969
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: they moved on and they got Rick Carlisle and you

1970
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: could say the rest is history on that or they

1971
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: brought back Rick Carlisles probably the better way to put it.

1972
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Speaker 1: So I find both franchises very interesting in that they

1973
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: moved on from legends in Carol and Belichick. It was

1974
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: an immediate success for New England, but they said, hey,

1975
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: we got to pivot again and we see Mike Rabel

1976
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: out there, and we view that as a major, major

1977
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: upgrade for Seattle. They looked at Carol and thought, man,

1978
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: you're still having success, but it's a time for a

1979
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: different voice. And look how the last two years have

1980
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 1: gone for them. I think it's really interesting and I

1981
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 1: think it's a very different line of thinking with those

1982
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Speaker 1: organizations than the one we have here in our own city.

1983
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to me when we talk about coordinators

1984
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: coming going, all those kinds of things.

1985
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Speaker 4: Within the AFC South, particularly James.

1986
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: You've got Liam Cohen who seems to have things headed

1987
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 2: in the right direction for Jacksonville. That offense played really

1988
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 2: well at times this year, and their defense was not

1989
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: that bad. I think they were one of the best

1990
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: run defenses in the league. Were they not, They're not

1991
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 2: going anywhere. Houston Texans have one of the three or

1992
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: four best defenses all around any NFL. They've got they

1993
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Speaker 2: believe their franchise quarterback. Whether you believe in CJ. Stroud

1994
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 2: or not is a different thing, but they've got tremendous

1995
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 2: wide receivers and they're always in the playoff mix over

1996
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 2: the last several years. Now we see all these moves

1997
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 2: that Tennessee has made in Granted, Tennessee's got a long

1998
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 2: way to go, But for the Colts, it comes back

1999
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: to we're basically going to run it back again. Maybe

2000
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: a few pickups here and there defensively this coming off season,

2001
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Speaker 2: and we want to re sign Daniel Jones. But while

2002
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 2: everybody else seems to be on the right track or

2003
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 2: retooling in some way, Colts feel like.

2004
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Speaker 4: They're running it back a little bit. Does that bother you?

2005
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 10: Oh?

2006
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think I understand why they're trying to run

2007
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,520
Speaker 5: it back, but I just don't think that it's realistic.

2008
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 5: Because you said you thought you were a top four

2009
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 5: team before the injuries and right after the bye week.

2010
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 5: I think they were eight and two come out of

2011
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 5: their bye week, and that is what Chris Ballad thought

2012
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 5: they were a top four team in the NFL.

2013
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Speaker 6: That's just not the case now.

2014
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Speaker 5: If you try to run it back exactly the same

2015
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 5: and you can't, the reality is that the team that

2016
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 5: you had will not be the team that you have

2017
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 5: moving forward, and for better or words, some things have

2018
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 5: to change. And now you're banking on a quarterback who

2019
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 5: was only made it through one season in his career

2020
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Speaker 5: healthy coming off a torn achilles and I think that's

2021
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 5: the crux of all of it. I mean, do you

2022
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 5: really trust Daniel Jones to hold up? And then secondly,

2023
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 5: do you trust him to play at the level that

2024
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 5: we saw quarterbacks playing the playoffs. I guess he gonna

2025
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 5: play like Sam Darnold did throughout this playoff run.

2026
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Speaker 6: Boy.

2027
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Speaker 5: I mean, Drake may a little bit weirder because of

2028
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 5: the elements things that he played through, but we look

2029
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 5: at the totality of his season.

2030
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Speaker 6: He's only lost three games.

2031
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Speaker 5: So when I look at these teams that are gonna

2032
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 5: be playing on Sunday and the teams that had a

2033
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 5: chance to play on Sunday when it comes to getting

2034
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 5: to the conference championships, although their defenses were really good

2035
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 5: and their quarterback play was outstanding for the most.

2036
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Speaker 6: Part, and that just.

2037
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 5: Isn't the case, at least in my mind, when I

2038
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 5: look at the Colts and try to project what their

2039
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 5: future might look like.

2040
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Speaker 1: Can I try and stump you guys on Super Bowl trivia? Absolutely,

2041
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 1: the single game record for most receiving yards in a

2042
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowl is one Jerry Rice. Seems rather obvious, right,

2043
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense there, given Jerry Rice his Super

2044
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Bowl pedigree given his individual pedigree, the man with the

2045
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: most catches in a Super Bowl game, James Boyd, Jeff Ricord,

2046
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: and I'm checking internet browser over there, and I'm not

2047
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: checking them for the same reasons. HR checks Mark Dyke.

2048
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm checking your internet browsers. I don't think you guys

2049
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: can get at the rest of the show.

2050
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 6: Was it I'll go Julian Edelman. That's my guess.

2051
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out a complete left field here. I'll

2052
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 2: ask you this was it done by a receiver from

2053
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 2: my team?

2054
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 1: As I don't think you can get in the next

2055
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: fifty one minutes.

2056
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 6: I'm wanting Julian Edelman.

2057
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: That's my pick. Lock it in.

2058
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 5: M hm.

2059
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 4: Hmm.

2060
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Certainly we'll move on to other topics because Lord knows sports.

2061
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: It is quite something. But and we'll see. If you know,

2062
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: the number of catches first off, for those that care,

2063
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 1: is fourteen. You know Jackson Smith and Jigba Stefan Diggs.

2064
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: I'd say two wideouts that you know I have had

2065
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: some games in their careers where they could produce. I'm

2066
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: not saying it's gonna happen on Sunday, but as I

2067
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 1: was looking into this matchup. It's definitely something that caught

2068
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: my all right, let the record show that I gave

2069
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 1: my prediction.

2070
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 5: So Jeff, you better give one because if we go

2071
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 5: to break and you come back and give one and

2072
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 5: it is right, I'm not buying it you either.

2073
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Mark. Oh, I know the answer. Okay, I don't. Yeah,

2074
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: we can't trust Mark behind the glass. You could come. Look,

2075
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: I know the answer. I'd say.

2076
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 5: I've seen this before, you know the old boy. I

2077
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 5: gotta go to the bathroom teacher in the middle of time.

2078
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 5: Mark's hands above the table right now. I feel I'm

2079
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 5: doing the handsheck right now, hands are up. I feel

2080
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 5: it was done by a receiver on a losing team.

2081
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 5: I don't think it was done in a win.

2082
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 4: I ain't cold.

2083
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you your ice cold right now. Okay, I

2084
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: would agree with that. I had no idea that the

2085
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: record for most rushing yards in a Super Bowl was

2086
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: set by Timmy Smith. Now, if Timmy Smith isn't playing

2087
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: on every playground in Indianapolis right now, then what are

2088
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: we really doing here?

2089
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 4: I watched that in person.

2090
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: So that was his rookie year with Washington, Is that correct? Ye?

2091
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and twenty six rushing yards in

2092
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: the regular season, and the fifth round pick out of

2093
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: Texas Tech had two hundred and.

2094
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 4: Four, most of them in the second quarter in the.

2095
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty seven season. There So we will try to

2096
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 1: test James and Jeff's knowledge here.

2097
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 4: If it's not who I was thinking of that, I

2098
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 4: think you might be right with I mean to be.

2099
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,919
Speaker 1: Totally honest with you. You could have told me yesterday

2100
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: at sunrise this question, and I don't think I would

2101
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: have gotten the answer by sunset.

2102
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 5: Jeff, you got to give a name brother watching his

2103
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 5: game for thought Ed mccaf original guest.

2104
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 4: It might be like a Dmerius Thomas, but.

2105
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: It's not a bad guess.

2106
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 8: No.

2107
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 4: I kind of like your answer, though, James.

2108
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I'll take my answer no, But I think I think

2109
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: you might. I don't know, at least guess Welker or

2110
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: somebody else or Gronk right, I'm going to go, I

2111
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 1: think it's a New England Patriot.

2112
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go.

2113
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that it is it one of those

2114
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 2: guys that caught a million passes out of the backfield

2115
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: for the Patriots. Remember they used to have that a

2116
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 2: long line of guys that they would just keep throwing

2117
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: the ball.

2118
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 4: Out too out of the backfield.

2119
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: I see Jeff's looking at the text line.

2120
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 4: Yes, man, Jeff, and.

2121
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 2: Man Andy s said James White, No, that's is that

2122
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 2: the right answer?

2123
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 8: Man?

2124
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: You didn't even have to walk to the bathroom all

2125
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I have your eyes. I'm looking.

2126
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the text line and a guy the

2127
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: point that I hadn't thought about that.

2128
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't know here no internet browser? Did you miss

2129
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: that part?

2130
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 4: Here's what I will say.

2131
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 2: I brought that up without saying a name because I

2132
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 2: didn't want to say the name and didn't want to

2133
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 2: steal it from the guy that I was going to

2134
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 2: give credit to.

2135
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:46,560
Speaker 4: Me later on.

2136
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 10: Is not it b.

2137
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Than I did when we drank that Mao coffee?

2138
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 4: There you go, gosh, I did not name the name

2139
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 4: on purpose.

2140
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: You hear that he knew it. He just didn't want

2141
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: to say no, no, I didn't say I know it,

2142
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: so they didn't know it. I don't know, James White.

2143
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Patriots running back there as Jeff as quickly. Yes to

2144
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 1: the end. There, Andy scot Us to the end. You

2145
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: think you guys would have got that? That's what I'm

2146
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 1: telling you she thought that I thought my answer was right. No, no, no,

2147
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: I think like I thought it was a Patriots modern

2148
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know they passed a little bit more

2149
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: in the modern super Bowls and obviously a possession wide out. Yeah,

2150
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: I mean Edelmund Welker. You know, those are all very

2151
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: good guesses. You know, if you don't go back to

2152
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: the Rams Super Bowl from a couple of years ago,

2153
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Cup would have been the name that

2154
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: I probably would have thought of something along those lines.

2155
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:38,600
Speaker 1: But yes, fourteen catches from one James White was that

2156
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: the Falcon super Bowl?

2157
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 2: Uh?

2158
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 5: I was thinking it would be my guest coming back, Dame.

2159
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Speaker 5: That's why I showed somebody from the New England Patriots.

2160
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 5: I was thinking, boy, they were down by a million,

2161
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 5: you got to pass the ball to get back into it.

2162
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 5: So you know, I was wrong, but at least I

2163
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 5: was honest.

2164
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 4: No, my guests would have been Dubarius Thomas.

2165
01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 9: I was.

2166
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 4: I was out of guesses at that point in time,

2167
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 4: so I thought maybe Julian Edelan sound good. And then

2168
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 4: I saw Andy s say something and I thought, oh

2169
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 4: he might be right.

2170
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Yes, James fourteen for one ten in that Super Bowl

2171
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: day James White, there, boy, that integrity went out the

2172
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: window pretty quickly.

2173
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 9: There.

2174
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: Did I say the name?

2175
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 4: Did I say the name?

2176
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 2: I was gonna give? Andyes credit. I also said before

2177
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 2: that I had no idea if it wasn't Tamarus Thomas

2178
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: or Julian Edelman, no idea.

2179
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 10: Don't have the patience jacket.

2180
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I guess it is a rough room,

2181
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 1: mellow check and craft. Don't get into the Hall of

2182
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Fame that Jeff decides to wear that hat.

2183
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna own it in a minute and whatever.

2184
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to own it and say good luck. But

2185
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 2: Andy s is the guy that figured it out. I

2186
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 2: had no idea, no idea. I also didn't want it.

2187
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 4: To go on for fifty one minutes.

2188
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: You still like the Seahawks on the route? You've kind

2189
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: of been on it.

2190
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 2: I liked that one last night, good buddy of mine,

2191
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,799
Speaker 2: we exchanged Texas and he said texts not Texas.

2192
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 1: I think you said xes. I was a little nervous there.

2193
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 4: I was like, if their exes what a week?

2194
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 13: Right?

2195
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Hold on swapping pinle outside the front door?

2196
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 10: Mark?

2197
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 9: Is that what it is?

2198
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: No upside down Pine upside upside down. Let's you know

2199
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: you're in for a good time.

2200
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 2: My my buddy Jim from the Sunrise buried under the snow,

2201
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 2: I said, super super Bowl score, Please send it exactly

2202
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 2: five thirty five, and I'll do the same.

2203
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 4: So we did.

2204
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 2: The second it hit five thirty five, I said, Seattle

2205
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: twenty three, New England thirteen. He said thirty two nineteen Seahawks.

2206
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: Gosh, I am, I'm going to be in the minority

2207
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: come Friday when we make our picks. I feel like

2208
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 1: everyone is saying Seahawks in a route and I'm just

2209
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 1: not there.

2210
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 6: I'll hold off on my pick. I think it'll be interesting.

2211
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 1: I think New England has had to wear like win

2212
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: some weird I think we're making too much out of

2213
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: what New England's done here in the playoffs. I mean

2214
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: maybe the Drake may shoulder is more of a thing,

2215
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 1: but like they've played in some wild weather games, right.

2216
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 3: I think people are discrediting him too, because they're saying,

2217
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 3: look at their schedule, who they really play, look at

2218
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 3: their division.

2219
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,560
Speaker 1: We're still doing that, you know it?

2220
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 4: Well, that's football the other people talk about. And I

2221
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,600
Speaker 4: don't know how much New England's defense was responsible for this.

2222
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 4: But CJ.

2223
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 2: Stroud did not have a good performance in that playoff

2224
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 2: game against New England.

2225
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 6: Good point.

2226
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 1: CJ.

2227
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 5: Strout played like he was drunk during the playoffs, So

2228
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's the barometer I wouldn't be using.

2229
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 6: It was rough.

2230
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: It was rough, my boy. So this sounds like you

2231
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: we mentioned that I've got a couple of upcoming games

2232
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 1: here Wisconsin at home Oregon on Monday night. Sounds like

2233
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: they're going to honor the seventy six national championship team

2234
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: at that Oregon game on Monday night. So, uh, Mark,

2235
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: we look up a schedule. I want to say, for

2236
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: some reason, it's like an eight o'clock tip, I you

2237
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: in Oregon coming up on Monday inside of a Simil.

2238
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, here in the inbox, Quinn Buckner, Scott and

2239
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: A Kent Benson, Bobby Wookers and Jim Cruise, Scott else,

2240
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: James Robson, todm Abernethy, Mitchell Radford honoring Wayne Radford. All

2241
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: will be in attendance there. They'll be honored at halftime

2242
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: eight thirty on Monday. I was kind of curious what

2243
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: they would do there. So I don't know I can't imagine.

2244
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: It's an eight thirty tip mark. Wait, what a weird

2245
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,679
Speaker 1: start time. That's what it says. This is eight thirty.

2246
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: I can't imagine a Monday game again. And for those

2247
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: who haven't pay attention to, Oregon is not good this

2248
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 1: year of basketball. I can't imagine that was necessarily maybe

2249
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 1: an appointment game for a lot of people on the

2250
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 1: IU schedule. But there you go. You'll get that honoring

2251
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: of the fifty ye anniversary of the seventy six undefeated team.

2252
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 4: I got the last undefeated team for basketball, the last.

2253
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,480
Speaker 2: Undefeated team for football, James Boyd, and it's Indiana University.

2254
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Not too bad. Arizona Maia of Ohio gonna challenge us

2255
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: at all. They're gonna get deeper into the month of February.

2256
01:41:58,560 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 4: Arizona looks really good.

2257
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 1: This is the last time we've ended February with two

2258
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 1: undefeated college basketball teams.

2259
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 5: Very good point. Yeah, that is kind of crazy. And

2260
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 5: then one of them is a hot major team. So

2261
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 5: we'll see if Arizona can do it. But I just

2262
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 5: think that it's just.

2263
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 1: Too hard Arizona schedule in February. It's like five ranked teams.

2264
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they got to play the conference tournament

2265
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: and then they got to start playing. Everybody's a good

2266
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 2: team once you get to the NC Double A.

2267
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,879
Speaker 1: Mayama, Ohio actually is a notable one tonight for their conference,

2268
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: like at Buffalo. I think that's one of the better teams.

2269
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, we might have a different conversation tomorrow morning.

2270
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 2: I was reading an article by one of the NBA

2271
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: or not NBA, but college basketball analysts yesterday that said

2272
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 2: that they think that Miami of Ohio is one of

2273
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 2: those small schools as a legit chance to get deep

2274
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 2: into the NC DOUBLEA tournament, maybe even Final four.

2275
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 4: Got to start paying attention to them too.

2276
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 1: Local flavor, Travis Steel, Pete Sooner, Justin Kirby, Christian Smith

2277
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 1: on staff shout.

2278
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 2: Out, all right, any more trivia questions that I don't

2279
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 2: know before we get into the break.

2280
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: You might not know it, but you're gonna find out

2281
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: pretty quickly based on Yeah, boy, what did we miss?

2282
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: The no Internet browser?

2283
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 11: Was that?

2284
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 2: Just I was looking at the text line, the guy

2285
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 2: said something, and I just said, maybe we need to

2286
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: be looking at a town.

2287
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,600
Speaker 1: Sixth grade Kevin Bowen struggling to get through whatever I.

2288
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 6: Was gonna say it sounds like you, professor Bowen, and

2289
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 6: got that student that had the wandering eight during the exam.

2290
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 4: Son to for a reason.

2291
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, coach More.

2292
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 4: All right, let's tell everybody the facts and figures. Mark Dayton.

2293
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,560
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2297
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Speaker 2: Indeed, it's a brutal room, James, and I'm here for

2298
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 2: it's a brutal room.

2299
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, we just you know, we would like

2300
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 6: people to follow the rules.

2301
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 1: Ball rules, je rules.

2302
01:43:58,680 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna go there.

2303
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 2: Rockets beat the Pacers one eighteen one fourteen last night

2304
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 2: at the field House, Indiana.

2305
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 4: Led late, they were up.

2306
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 2: Ninety nine to ninety seven in the fourth quarter, and

2307
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 2: then all kinds of fouls on Shingoon and all kinds

2308
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 2: of free throws made, and then a nice three point

2309
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 2: play by and Thompson kind of put an end to

2310
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 2: the Pacers run there. One eighteen won fourteen the final

2311
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 2: Shangoon thirty nine points last night.

2312
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 4: But when you look at this game and the.

2313
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: Rebounding Kevin Bowen, the rebounding last night fifty six to

2314
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: thirty three in favor of the Houston Rockets.

2315
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was Rick Carlisle's biggest keyp regame. He

2316
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: was adamant that we were using Rick Schwortz, you know,

2317
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: have got to push them out from a rebounding standpoint.

2318
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 6: And boy, it was so fitting how that game played out.

2319
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: The Pacers got stops late to try and get a

2320
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: chance to extend the game, but they couldn't get the

2321
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 1: final rebound. Very fitting. James of Up pointed out very

2322
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 1: accurately to start the show. It was a game that

2323
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 1: certainly showed what the center absence is right now for

2324
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: this Acer squad. So yeah, they've been playing pretty good

2325
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 1: basketball here as of late. And Bendick Mathern was really

2326
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: good last night. Siakam came alive there in the second half.

2327
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: I thought some nice moments from jars Walker. But yes,

2328
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 1: rebounding Fenny without fouling and center issues go lower.

2329
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 2: Any reason that Johnny Furfey only played fourteen minutes last

2330
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 2: night just game dictated that.

2331
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 1: You think, well, I think Matheren, I mean, Matthenen led

2332
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: them in minutes right coming off the bench there.

2333
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 4: So they used furfey all over the place the other night.

2334
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Matheren was playing. I think he kind

2335
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: of took those furfey starting minutes there. So back to back.

2336
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 1: We'lla wait the injury report here for the Pacers today. Again,

2337
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: when they played Detroit in their last back to back

2338
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: about a week and a half ago, they sat a

2339
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: lot of guys for that game. So just something to

2340
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Pacers Jazz tonight seven o'clock, their

2341
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: final game before the trade deadline Thursday afternoon.

2342
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 2: So I also see it's ten games in a row

2343
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 2: for Pascal Siakam scored twenty points or more for the

2344
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Pacers in twenty seven last night.

2345
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 6: Not surprised by it. If that is the case, he's

2346
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 6: a bucket.

2347
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 2: He is rolling all right. College basketball late tonight, walk

2348
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 2: on Peacock. It'll be Indiana at usc who's yours running

2349
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 2: a three game winning streak, and another chance, another opportunity

2350
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 2: for them to just kind of cement what they're starting

2351
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 2: to do right now. I mean they've they've made a

2352
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 2: nice little run here. They got the quad one win

2353
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 2: of UCLA and so not necessary that they get this

2354
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 2: win the night against USC Kevin. But were they sure

2355
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 2: take it and run with it?

2356
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I know some people have brought up, Hey,

2357
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, road game out west, it's difficult. USC has

2358
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: not been very good at home this season against Big

2359
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,719
Speaker 1: ten teams. And you think about it, I you didn't

2360
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: have to get on a plane after the UCLA game.

2361
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: They just stayed right there. And you know you're gonna

2362
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,600
Speaker 1: bus across town now a couple days later, so you

2363
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: know where the leg's at after a fifty minute game.

2364
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: USC is not one of the deeper teams in the

2365
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 1: Big Tens. I think that helps out Indiana, but nonetheless

2366
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: it would be quite a stretch there if they're able

2367
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,560
Speaker 1: to get another road win, and this would be a

2368
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Quad one win as well.

2369
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 4: All right.

2370
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 2: Also college basketball, Pat Knight, according to multiple reports, has

2371
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 2: resigned at Marion University, as had basketball coach there. He

2372
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 2: said in an article this morning in the Indie Start

2373
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 2: of Kyle Nett and RiPP that administration wanted him to

2374
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 2: fire someone. He didn't want to do that, so he quit.

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01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: And apparently he will speak with Jake Query during Jake's

2376
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 2: show this afternoon very in.

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Speaker 6: Just do what he has to say again. Pat Knight,

2378
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 6: the son of Bob Knight.

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Speaker 4: All Right, super Bowl Week opened up last night with

2380
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 4: opening nights.

2381
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 2: All the players and coaches available to media of all types,

2382
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 2: James Boyd, entertainment reporters, morning fmdjs, all kinds of stuff.

2383
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 4: That's why you get some of those wacky questions.

2384
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 2: Don and I will always perturb the guys that were

2385
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 2: there to actually cover the Super Bowl in the game itself.

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01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 5: I didn't know this, Kevin, but apparently when they get

2388
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 5: into the practice portion of the week, you get one

2389
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 5: reporter who can go to the practice for each team

2390
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 5: and they report what happened at practice to the other reporters.

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01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 5: I thought that was very fascinating to me. I just

2392
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 5: thought that it was very closed off and it was like, okay,

2393
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 5: our every day would beat reporters theyo are the ones

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01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 5: that are going to come. No, it is one Disney

2395
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 5: to reporter per team.

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01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 1: And they get to watch the whole practice, right, I.

2397
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 5: Believe so, But it was I would imagine there's also

2398
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 5: things where you cannot report, which is.

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01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: Different from regular season rules where you know, we get

2400
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: to watch about twenty minutes. So yeah, we'll start to

2401
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: get into that part of the week for those that care.

2402
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: And I'm fully joking with this comment here, but yeah,

2403
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl flag football game is on tonight. So

2404
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 1: that is Tyler Warren and Jonathan Taylor.

2405
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 2: The NFL announcing that there will be nine international games

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01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 2: coming up this year. Three games in London, one in Madrid, Spain,

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01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: one in Munich, Germany, one game in Rio de Janeiro

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01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: in Brazil, one game in Melbourne, Australia. They announced earlier

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01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 2: this week Paris is getting a game, and then yesterday

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01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 2: I said Mexico City.

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01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 4: Is going to get a game again.

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01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 2: So you could be traveling all over the world for

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01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 2: the Athletic, James, you could be the international correspondent for

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01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 2: the Athletic.

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01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 6: I would absolutely take them up on that.

2416
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 4: So my boss will, oh, he'd ditch us into second.

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01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 5: I call you from wherever I'm at. You know, my

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01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 5: restfisent is pretty good. I think I came in pretty

2419
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 5: from Berlin last time. Hey man, hey, I gotta take look,

2420
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,600
Speaker 5: these are paid work activities.

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01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 9: Hey.

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01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 6: When somebody says you can go overseas for free, you

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01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 6: take it.

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01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: No preachuh.

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01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 4: Later on tonight, we've got girls basketball in the spotlight.

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01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 4: Kevin Bowen.

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01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I justa girls basketball sectionals underway. Shout out to

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01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 1: Lola Lampley, that family a lot of d one talent there.

2429
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 1: The LC product off the LSU next year to play

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01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 1: for Kim Mulky, she announced yesterday McDonald's All American. I

2431
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: think the only boy or girl from the state with

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01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: that honor, Luke Rtle would probably have been the highest

2433
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: ranked boy I think on that side of it that

2434
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 1: could have potentially been chosen for that game. So shout

2435
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 1: out to her and hopefully good weather all week long.

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01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: Here as I do scroll the text line in a

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01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: legal manner, unlike earlier in the legal mark, looks like

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01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,879
Speaker 1: people curious about the punishment.

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01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 3: Jeff I said the very least sit in the corner

2440
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 3: with the dunce cap. On the remainder of the show,

2441
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 3: somebody said go jump in the snow pile with your

2442
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 3: s heard off. So yeah, we've got some punishments. And

2443
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 3: somebody said drink the mail and coffee like Kevin and

2444
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:06,719
Speaker 3: I have done in the past.

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01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 1: I'm not in my head at all of those. Yeah,

2446
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 1: those all sound like very deserved punishments.

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01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:12,719
Speaker 6: Yes, I would agree.

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01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: Well, you guys can think about that then.

2449
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 3: Oh man, last thing for the baseball fans out there.

2450
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 3: I know if you saw this last night, but the

2451
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 3: Reds are one of six teams that will, instead of

2452
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 3: being under the FanDuel Sports Network, will go to the

2453
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 3: MLB Media Arm for their broadcasting in twenty twenty six,

2454
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 3: So they joined the Marlins, Brewers, Rays, Royals, and Cardinals.

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01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,560
Speaker 3: Looks like it'll be about twenty bucks a month for

2456
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,440
Speaker 3: Reds games through MLB TV.

2457
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 1: Which, correct if I'm wrong, that's pretty much the same

2458
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: price for Pacer games for example.

2459
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,560
Speaker 3: Correct, but at least with that you got Pacers and

2460
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 3: Reds now. I think it's twenty for Pacers twenty for Reds,

2461
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 3: so you're doubling your price. I think you're getting splits

2462
01:50:58,240 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 3: coverage now.

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: Interesting. So anytime Mark starts with something about the Reds,

2464
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:06,799
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's going to be negative.

2465
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 4: Well where are you gonna go?

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01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 1: Apparently to MLBtv. Is this how we're gonna do it?

2467
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: And is this what the NBA is about to fall

2468
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: suit with? Sure seems like it. RSNS.

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01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 3: I thought we're going away, but now they seem to

2470
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 3: be coming back, and they're just nickel and diming.

2471
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 1: Regional sports networks. For those familiar with kicks.

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01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 2: Someone suggests punishment is having to wait in the parking

2473
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 2: lot and block off a spot for JMV like just

2474
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: all day waiting for JMB.

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01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 4: To get here.

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01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 3: Human cone, human traffic cone. Jeff, I'll put the dunk

2477
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 3: cone on. How about that mark?

2478
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: I need to go make. Do we have a printer?

2479
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 1: Does it work? I'll make one?

2480
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 4: All right? We will continue to move. We're gonna speak

2481
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 4: with C. J.

2482
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 2: Moore, the college basketball reporter for the Athletic Kill give

2483
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 2: us the rundown on where the teams around here standing,

2484
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 2: what they need to get done if they want to

2485
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 2: reach their individual aspirations.

2486
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 4: We'll do it next as we continue. Ninety three five

2487
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 4: what O seven five are.

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01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: You going to abandon being a Reds fan? Are you

2489
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 1: going to in following this team?

2490
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 11: You're listening to a fan morning show on sports radio

2491
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 11: ninety three five and one seven fan.

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01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 2: Good morning, time to talk to some college basketball.

2493
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 4: Indiana playing at USC later on tonight.

2494
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 2: Purdue getting off the schneid, a big win over when

2495
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 2: I say big thirty point win over Maryland the other night,

2496
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 2: and other schools still scraping Butler's got a lot of

2497
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 2: work to do.

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01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,639
Speaker 4: We'll find out what's going on in our area now. CJ.

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01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: Moore covers college basketball for The Athletic and he joined

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Speaker 2: us now in the Payloss Liquors hotline.

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01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 4: This has got to be like coming into your dream season, CJ.

2502
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,560
Speaker 4: The next six seven weeks.

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01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's uh, it will fly by. It probably won't

2504
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 13: get a lot of sleep, but looking forward to it.

2505
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:54,719
Speaker 6: Well, CJ.

2506
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 5: One, I want to give you credit for Keaton Woggler

2507
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 5: going off because he wrote this great feature on him

2508
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 5: and then he turned into a star at Purdue and

2509
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 5: hasn't looked back since. So, I mean, it's not any

2510
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 5: of his reasoning, it's all you. So I want to

2511
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,799
Speaker 5: give you credit there to start off. But jokes aside,

2512
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 5: when you look at the Big Ten and the way

2513
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 5: the landscaps kind of changed the last couple of weeks,

2514
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 5: When you look at this league, how would you kind

2515
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 5: of rate it? When you look at you know, the

2516
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 5: teams at the top, like Illinois, like Purdue had been

2517
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 5: in Michigan, but then also it's middle little Pac teams

2518
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:28,919
Speaker 5: that are kind of coming along like Indiana.

2519
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's.

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01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 13: The best league in the country, probably from pop through middle.

2521
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:42,759
Speaker 13: You know, there's some duds there at the at the bottom.

2522
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,600
Speaker 13: I think the Big twelve is is pretty close. But

2523
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 13: and they're really really really good this year too. But

2524
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 13: you know, I think you look at the Big ten

2525
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 13: and you know, I could argue there's at least two

2526
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 13: or three maybe four title contenders definitely, you know, multiple

2527
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 13: teams that can reach the final four and some teams

2528
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 13: that I think could could go on a run. You know,

2529
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 13: Indiana's been playing better lately. I was going to be

2530
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,600
Speaker 13: a tough out when we get to tournament time. So

2531
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 13: it's it's a it's a really fun league. I've enjoyed,

2532
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 13: you know, watching the games this year, c J.

2533
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 5: When I look at the Indiana in particular, this is

2534
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 5: a team that probably a month ago, I was thinking, boy,

2535
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:27,799
Speaker 5: I don't know if they have anything on the resume

2536
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 5: so far, and they roll off some big wins and

2537
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 5: have another opportunity tonight at USC. What do you think

2538
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 5: has shifted for them to be able to establish themselves.

2539
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 1: A bit in the Big ten.

2540
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 5: And obviously, as I just talked about picking up some

2541
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 5: big wins to build their tournament resume.

2542
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 13: I think one thing that's helped obviously is is putting

2543
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 13: Nick Dorn in the starting lineup and playing him a

2544
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 13: lot more. He's just shooting the He's shooting the heck

2545
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 13: out of the ball, and you put that much shooting

2546
01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 13: on the floor. I think they've been really really hard

2547
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 13: to guard lately, and so I mean it's really I

2548
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 13: think it might be as simple as that. That that

2549
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 13: was kind of the thing that that flipped it for him.

2550
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 13: You know, when you when you shoot the ball as

2551
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 13: well as they've been shooting it a lot of times, Yeah,

2552
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 13: you win games. So I think it's you know, maybe

2553
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 13: some toughness stuff, like you know, inside they're not as

2554
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 13: as strong, but like that Perdue game, I thought they're

2555
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 13: big held up. Well, so they're they're they've had a

2556
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 13: nice turnaround.

2557
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

2558
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 13: Darren's a really good coach, so I'm not surprised. C. J.

2559
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 1: Moore, that's the voice you hear. You can find his

2560
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: work over on the Athletic. I do want to get

2561
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 1: to Darren Peterson here in Pacers Country in just a second,

2562
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: but let's stick with the local teams, not panicking on Purdue.

2563
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 1: That was something you wrote here recently on the Athletic.

2564
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: You know, def con meter has been a little higher,

2565
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 1: I would say for Purdue fans, particularly with what's happening

2566
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: in bloom Meton. But what do you think about purduing

2567
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: this recent slide.

2568
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, there's obviously, like some reasons to be concerned. Obviously,

2569
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 13: the defense hasn't been what you hope. I think that,

2570
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 13: you know, my concern with them coming in the year

2571
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 13: was like, are they athletic enough on the wing? And

2572
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 13: I do, and then inside, you know, are they are

2573
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 13: they going to be able to have guys that can

2574
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 13: get out on the perimeter and guard. Obviously Keaton really

2575
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 13: really made that a problem for them, and that Illinois loss,

2576
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 13: you know, switching Oscar and uh t k r onto

2577
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 13: them who was not working very well. But they're still

2578
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 13: an elite offensive team. I think if they can figure

2579
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 13: out some some things defensively, then they've still got a

2580
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 13: shot to really go on a run here and you know,

2581
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 13: have a really good team. Like if the losses coming

2582
01:56:56,920 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 13: in a row obviously was what you know, gets everybody worried.

2583
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 13: But there's still eighteen and four. There's really not a

2584
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 13: bad loss on there. I mean, you lose it at

2585
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 13: your rival, lose on the road to U c l A.

2586
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 13: That's those those are defensible losses. And then Illinois is

2587
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 13: playing as well as anybody in college basketball right now.

2588
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 13: So I wouldn't freak out too much if I was

2589
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 13: a Purdue fan. I do think there's some things defensively

2590
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 13: that you know, Matt Painter's got to figure out, and

2591
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 13: I'm not. You know, he's got to get right games

2592
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 13: that they they have already had one Maryland, you know

2593
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 13: you're not you can play off on and still beat

2594
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 13: those guys. And then you know, having organ this weekend

2595
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 13: that that helps to just kind of figure some things

2596
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 13: out before man the really the schedule gets.

2597
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 4: Really, really, really tough again.

2598
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: So CEJ you were at Allen field House, I believe

2599
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: with the weekend for A Javans and Darren Peterson. Obviously

2600
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 1: we saw what happened there with the cramping in the

2601
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: second half last night. Darren Peterson plays thirty five minutes,

2602
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 1: the shot making on full display, the clutch shot making

2603
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 1: probably full display. I don't think there's any doubting Darren

2604
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 1: Peterson the basketball player. It's more of just what's going

2605
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 1: on I guess off the floor injury wise, the handling

2606
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,919
Speaker 1: of it all. What do you make of that aspect

2607
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 1: to it, because Pacers fans obviously have a ton of

2608
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 1: intrigue over what that story is going to look like

2609
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 1: here come June.

2610
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 13: I mean, it's really really bizarre and weird, and it's

2611
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 13: you know, it's hard to wrap your head around, like

2612
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 13: why why you can't finish games? Why? You know, he

2613
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 13: goes to the bench the other night against BYU and

2614
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 13: it doesn't look like he's really like anybody's trying to

2615
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 13: help him get back in the game, or he's trying

2616
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 13: to get back in the game like he just had

2617
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 13: kind of sat there. It's bizarre. I think there's probably

2618
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 13: more to the story than we know. It'll be interesting

2619
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 13: to see what comes up medical wise. Wants to get

2620
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 13: to the draft process. You know, if there's anything really

2621
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 13: really serious, I think that that'll come out then at least.

2622
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 13: But if I have the number one pick and I'm

2623
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 13: trying to decide, you know, what franchise guy I want,

2624
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 13: and there's some really really good options, I'd have a

2625
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 13: hard time not taking him, just because of what he's

2626
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 13: able to do when he is healthy, and you just

2627
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 13: hope that like this is kind of just a weird

2628
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 13: one year thing. But if it's you know, medical stuff

2629
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 13: comes up that it's enough to scare you away. There

2630
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 13: are some pretty other good options up there at the top.

2631
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 4: CJ. Last thing before we let you go.

2632
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 2: It's getting late for the Butler Bulldogs, and I don't

2633
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 2: know how many opportunities they really have for great quality

2634
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 2: wins in the Big East ahead of them.

2635
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 4: Is there a realistic path forward for them to make

2636
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 4: a run here? No, I don't think so.

2637
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 13: I mean, like you said, there just aren't enough quality

2638
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 13: wins you can get in the Big East this year.

2639
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 13: Even if we're to run the table, it's going to

2640
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 13: be really, really tough to have a resume that's good

2641
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 13: enough to make the dance tournament.

2642
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 4: Thanks for stopping by, Buddy, We appreciate it as always.

2643
01:59:58,240 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 4: Thanks for getting up early and being with us.

2644
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:01,320
Speaker 1: Thanks guys.

2645
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 4: Take c J.

2646
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 2: Moore, one of your colleagues over there at the Athletic

2647
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 2: taking time out of his day to join us this morning.

2648
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, it feels like it's getting pretty close to midnight.

2649
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 2: If it hasn't already come for Butler at this point

2650
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 2: in time, done that?

2651
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think if they I mean he used

2652
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 1: the phrase run the table, I mean obviously that's a lofty,

2653
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: lofty goal. I you know, win over Yukon and win

2654
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 1: at Villanova and even a second Seaton Hall game would

2655
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 1: do a lot for their resume. But the margin for

2656
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:32,840
Speaker 1: air is about as slim as slim can be. Right now?

2657
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 1: For Butler at Providence tomorrow, Mark, how about a four

2658
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 1: pack to that Yukon game? Why not wonder that next Wednesday?

2659
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 1: I think, no cheating? No cheating? Name an email?

2660
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 4: Am I allowed to look at the text line anymore?

2661
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 5: Now?

2662
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 1: Marks is the only one that can look at the

2663
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: text line. All right, see yourself out, sir, four pack

2664
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 1: Butler Yukon next Wednesday.

2665
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 2: Inside of I've even got another thing to give away

2666
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 2: in the next segment, does as I try to make

2667
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: my way back for you guys as well. So two nine,

2668
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 2: ten seventy right now you want Butler tickets, That's what's

2669
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 2: on the line. Do uh just do the word bulldogs

2670
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 2: if you have that. That'll separate it out from Mark

2671
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 2: to find those a little bit quicker.

2672
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: Right, James White? How about that? Andy?

2673
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:15,880
Speaker 4: Yes already did that?

2674
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 1: Come?

2675
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 4: We'll talk more in a moment here. In ninety three

2676
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 4: five one O seven the Fan.

2677
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 12: On time.

2678
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 11: You were listening to The Fan Morning show on Sports

2679
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 11: Radio ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan.

2680
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 2: If you could see the self satisfied grain you have

2681
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 2: on your face right now, Mark Dyton, he is pleased

2682
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 2: with himself right.

2683
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: This is a good song right here, very fitting from

2684
02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton.

2685
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 10: Thank you.

2686
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:01,480
Speaker 1: It's a very good song by Carrie Underwood. Vera. I

2687
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 1: know I'm not a country fan, this one, this one slaps.

2688
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 4: It's great.

2689
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:06,880
Speaker 2: First of all, she's got pipes, man, she can sing.

2690
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 2: But anyway, feel good about yourself.

2691
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 4: That's good. I'm glad enjoy that.

2692
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 1: He's not the ones got torust A set on the

2693
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: pillow tonight. I'm to look at myself in the mirror.

2694
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 4: If I have, I have a clear conscience. You guys

2695
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 4: can spend it any way you'd like to.

2696
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 3: Matt Taylor is doing trivia. He's gonna say no, sorry,

2697
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:24,080
Speaker 3: you see yourself out.

2698
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 1: Do not let this man in.

2699
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:25,560
Speaker 4: He cheats.

2700
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 6: Have a wanted sign on the door bouncer all of

2701
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 6: a sudden looks through his notes.

2702
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

2703
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: Carlisle tomorrow eight A m will join us there so

2704
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 1: Pacers back to back head coach will join us. Coming

2705
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: up tomorrow at.

2706
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 2: Eight, looking forward to that. In the meantime, do we

2707
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 2: have a winner for the Butler tickets already? Markd Acton,

2708
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 2: did I hear you say that?

2709
02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 4: Yes?

2710
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 3: Shout out, very very quick response. Nathan gets the tickets, all.

2711
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 4: Right, Nathan.

2712
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 2: I've also got another opportunity for people to win some

2713
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 2: tickets here. The Indiana Home and Garden Show is coming

2714
02:02:56,800 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 2: up this weekend at the Indiana Convention Center, and we

2715
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:04,080
Speaker 2: will be entering people into a drawing where several folks

2716
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 2: will win four tickets to the Home and Garden Show

2717
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 2: on Friday.

2718
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,800
Speaker 4: Just text the word home if you're interested in that

2719
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 4: right now.

2720
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 1: The Suburban Indie Home Show.

2721
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 2: That's what Suburban Indie Home show. Okay, it's the Suburban

2722
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:18,200
Speaker 2: Indie Home Show coming up this week. So we're looking

2723
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 2: forward to that. But text the word home and we

2724
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 2: will get you tickets for that that's coming up, and we'll.

2725
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 4: Do that drawing on Friday.

2726
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: So how about that?

2727
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:28,680
Speaker 2: So are you gonna stay up and watch the Indiana

2728
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:30,640
Speaker 2: game tonight or you go like me and record it

2729
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 2: and watch the second half tomorrow morning.

2730
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 1: I'll probably get you usually give Nelly a late night

2731
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 1: bottle anyway, So yeah, I'll probably give it a decent

2732
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: effort there and see how entertaining it is coming up

2733
02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 1: at half. I think it's the last late late start

2734
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 1: of the season for Indiana this year, and I believe Purdue.

2735
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll get a few nine o'clockers, but

2736
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:50,520
Speaker 1: ten o'clock's a little different animal. By the way, eighteen

2737
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:52,840
Speaker 1: year univers who just saw this in the timeline of

2738
02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:56,520
Speaker 1: the David Tyree catch. I just watched the play over again.

2739
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 1: I always forget Eli mann should been sacked about seven

2740
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 1: times in that play.

2741
02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 6: It was incredible that he stayed up right.

2742
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Eli Manning, of all people, the you know,

2743
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 5: Cam Newton, Ben Roethlisberger, it's like.

2744
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: Quarterback Anthony Richardson. If we could give a little shout

2745
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 1: out there shedding those guys and even I mean obviously

2746
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 1: the Tyree catches. The Tyree catch, but that would have

2747
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 1: brought up fourth and five for the Giants right there,

2748
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:25,680
Speaker 1: to keep the game alive a little over a minute

2749
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:29,120
Speaker 1: to play. And yeah, I mean watching it again, James

2750
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Eli take that Peyton escape artist, Eli Manning? Who DEENI Is.

2751
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 6: Eli Manning a Hall of Famer?

2752
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:37,120
Speaker 8: No?

2753
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 6: Oh, I say yes, gosh, shut if.

2754
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 2: You look at the whole body of where you get

2755
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 2: two amazing postseason runs, but the body.

2756
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 4: Of work there's some really average to blow averagers in there.

2757
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 5: Kind draw the line somewhere, James, I'm drawing a line

2758
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 5: of how many guys alive have ever had two runs

2759
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 5: like that?

2760
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 1: Stafford? I think that forget in though Rivers or Eli Eli.

2761
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie reportedly hired by the Giants. Is there oc

2762
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:09,920
Speaker 1: one of Mark Dighton's favorite coaches of all time? So

2763
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 1: I assume that is another to cross off the list.

2764
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 1: For Jim, Bob Cooter and Alex Tanney. We will see

2765
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: if they'll be back officially with the Colts or if

2766
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 1: a lingering opening maybe in Seattle or something leads them there.

2767
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 4: Matt Naggi, Ben Johnson, which one?

2768
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 1: Mark, Oh gee, let him twist my arm?

2769
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 2: Caleb Willison Wilson or Caleb Williams. I can't even say it.

2770
02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: The latter now, James, You're not Eli Manning over Drew Brees,

2771
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 1: are you?

2772
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 8: No?

2773
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm not, But I just feel like if Drew Brees

2774
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 1: only had one run, I know.

2775
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 5: But I feel like his counting stats and all that,

2776
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:52,600
Speaker 5: the accuracy. I cannot sit here in good conscious and

2777
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:54,880
Speaker 5: tell you that Drew Brees is better than Eli Manning.

2778
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 5: I just think that you look at his resume and

2779
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 5: I get it with great mudiocre for number of years,

2780
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 5: but you beat the colde twice in the biggest game ever,

2781
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 5: knocked off undefeated Team two super Bowl MVPs.

2782
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 1: I believe if his name's Eli Boyd, is he in

2783
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:11,080
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame?

2784
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 10: Oh?

2785
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean the last name Boyd is legendary. So

2786
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:15,920
Speaker 5: you got to ask a different question. You got to

2787
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 5: ask if it's a record or a dyked in or

2788
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 5: you know, something like that, cheating in.

2789
02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 1: The medal chair, ego in the far right chair, air

2790
02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 1: loss in the left chair.

2791
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 2: All right, We continue to keep an eye on the

2792
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:32,400
Speaker 2: NBA trade deadline, which comes Thursday, but wouldn't be shocked

2793
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 2: if something happens the next twenty four to thirty six

2794
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 2: hours with some of the bigger names. We'll find out

2795
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 2: how that holds itself out later on today, Jay Query,

2796
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:41,560
Speaker 2: you'll be on from noon to three.

2797
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 4: Pat Knight is scheduled to be on his show.

2798
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 2: I believe at this point in time, one o'clock is

2799
02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 2: the time that we're looking at for that one Pat

2800
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:51,440
Speaker 2: Knight stepping down as the head coach at Maryon University's

2801
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 2: the basketball men's head coach last night. We'll find out

2802
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 2: more about that, and then of course the Rye with

2803
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 2: Jamb comes your way from three to six, and I

2804
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:00,920
Speaker 2: will ban myself from looking at the text line for

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Speaker 2: the next twenty four hours.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, you okay with that? Good luck falling asleep, all right,

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Speaker 4: It's I'll come in your way throughout the day. On

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Speaker 4: ninety three five and one ill seven five to the fan,