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Speaker 1: Why from Ball Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Comes to client three thousand dollars. Speak of the three

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Speaker 3: That's a year.

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Speaker 2: In twelve months, Trump real incomes went up by two

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars and three thousand and even in some cases

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Speaker 2: has set fifty two all time record highs during the

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Speaker 2: course of the actually the eleven months, because this was

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Speaker 2: done in eleven months. Now we are actually officially twelve

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Speaker 2: months as of today, fifty two all time record highs.

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Speaker 2: That means four oh one case they quit. I have

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Speaker 2: people see me all the time, policemen that guard us

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Speaker 2: really well and got to know him a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and they said, so you make him and looks so

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Speaker 2: good in my four oh one.

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Speaker 4: Case to President Trump speaking to the press as he

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Speaker 3: Uh he is.

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Speaker 4: Come to the press briefing Tony Katz. Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 4: good to be with you. Find everything at Tony kats

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Speaker 4: dot com. President Trump's saying, hey, it's been a year,

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Speaker 4: and uh ha, aren't things awesome? Hair, Yeah, they're awesome,

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Speaker 4: baby perfect. Well they're not perfect, but he is touting

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Speaker 4: how they're getting legal immigrants off the streets of Minneapolis,

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Speaker 4: and now he's going over the economy. He listens to

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Speaker 4: the show. Scott Bessen listens to the show. I was right,

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Speaker 4: Steve Bennon was wrong. I'll say it again. You weren't

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Speaker 4: focused on this enough. You weren't addressing it enough. You

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Speaker 4: weren't talking about what's coming, you weren't talking about what's

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Speaker 4: going right. And now he's saying, you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: have the I don't have good enough press people, pr

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Speaker 4: people because we're not getting it through to people that

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Speaker 4: we inherited a mess from Biden and we've been cleaning

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Speaker 4: it up. He didn't go in with that methodology. He

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Speaker 4: didn't go in with that that conversation. Now you want

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Speaker 4: to bring it later. Hey, I'm just glad you're bringing something,

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Speaker 4: and I'm glad that you're getting focused on things like

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Speaker 1: And it's great.

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Speaker 4: Presidents picked two things, two things to say we're focused

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Speaker 4: on economically, and those things succeed. He has great chances

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Speaker 4: in the Midtims, but he is doing this press. I'll

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sticking.

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Speaker 3: With it going way up. You know, if you look

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Speaker 3: at Snap, take a look at Snap. What happened with that?

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Speaker 2: Was it seven billion dollars and he came out to

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Speaker 2: over fifty one billion dollars. Nobody has ever seen anything

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Speaker 2: like it. The past administration they had no clue or

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Speaker 2: But they did have a concept. I mean, they're still

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Speaker 2: trying to sell the idea of men playing in women's sports.

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Speaker 2: You saw that in the Supreme Court. I mean some

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Speaker 3: They were fighting for him.

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Speaker 2: But you saw that just the other day the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: Men playing in women's doesn't work. Secured a record breaking

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Speaker 2: eighteen trillion dollars in commitments for new investments Apple, Navidias

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Speaker 2: Week ago in Michigan that they were going to close

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Speaker 2: going twenty four hours around the clock. Making cause Terriff

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Speaker 3: Than what a license could be. But think of it.

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to do a license, and then they have

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Speaker 2: Something to the effect or what is necessary, something to

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Speaker 2: there's a case even there, but we've taken in hundreds

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Speaker 3: You know we have. And by the way, no inflation.

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Speaker 4: Now we can agree to disagree about this. He wins

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Speaker 4: the argument that the conversation was the tariffs are going

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Speaker 4: very much helping him with the tariff conversation, even though

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Speaker 2: A pill that was selling in London for ten dollars,

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Speaker 3: That's why I do this.

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Speaker 2: I don't like to do this to be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: The word out. We signed one big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 2: I call it the Great, Big Beautiful Bill, delivering the

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to be getting into this in my

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Speaker 4: through this whole list. I can't believe he's stealing my act,

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Speaker 4: message that the midterms are dependent on we're based on this.

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Speaker 4: If you want to talk about bad press, you didn't

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Speaker 1: Big Beautiful Bill. Very few people did.

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Speaker 4: I didn't get it at first. Everything they put it

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Speaker 4: all on this. They have it message it well. And

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Speaker 2: And that's with all of the things we have to do,

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Speaker 2: to Christy and to Tom Holman, the great people, they're

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Speaker 3: I had no legislation. I said, close the border.

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Speaker 2: Within one month, we had almost nobody coming in.

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Speaker 2: Eight months, nobody came into our country illegally.

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Speaker 3: We had nobody come in. We have a very strong border.

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Speaker 3: They don't do that with me. They do that well.

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Speaker 1: To their home countries.

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Speaker 4: And one of the places where I think the President

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Speaker 3: That's so sad, it just happens. It's terrible.

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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting that it brought up that ice

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Speaker 4: How are you gonna limit the mistakes? That's the that's

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Speaker 1: Keep it here?

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Speaker 4: This is Tony Katz today. So did Don Lemon break

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Speaker 4: no question, Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, Good to be here,

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Speaker 4: Good to be with you. He did this. He's trying

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Speaker 1: As we were discussing.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say this. I'm not going to put

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Speaker 4: I believe Don Lemon is flat out lying in how

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Speaker 3: So I had no affiliation to that organization. I didn't

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Speaker 5: Started in the church, we did an act of journalism,

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Speaker 3: And talk to the people who involved, which included the

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's called journalism for the First Amendment.

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Speaker 5: All of the people who believe in the First Amendment.

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Speaker 5: There you go, So why don't you talk to the

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Speaker 3: You have no idea about. That way, thank you for

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Speaker 4: Now you got to love the little Thank you for

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Speaker 4: Never mind that I'm saying he's lying. There's video evidence

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Speaker 6: Well, it's going to be very fact driven. What were

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Speaker 6: So was it true journalism or was it activism and

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Speaker 6: What did he know in advance? And you know his

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Speaker 6: after the fat claim, well, I'm just a journalist. It

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Speaker 6: sounds a little too cute to be true. It sounds

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Speaker 6: more like he was there as part of the crowd.

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Speaker 6: And as we found out on January sixth, if you're

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Speaker 6: part of the crowd and you're advancing the alleged criminality,

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Speaker 6: the fact that you have a camera with you and

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Speaker 6: you're videotaping is not a legal defense, or at least

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Speaker 6: the government didn't accept it as illegal.

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Speaker 4: And you you brought that up to me as we

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Speaker 4: were getting ready to talk, and I maybe I missed it,

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Speaker 4: I heard it, I forgot. I thought that was a

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Speaker 4: fascinating connection point, that there were people who were covering

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Speaker 4: what was happening on January sixth, and covering it didn't

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Speaker 4: protect them from the onslaught of the Biden administration and

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Speaker 4: the J six cabal.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: And I don't remember the names. I mean, they've seen

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Speaker 6: them post about their stories and how they basically had

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Speaker 6: to spend their life savings defending themselves and spent time

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Speaker 6: in prison, and their claim was I was just there

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Speaker 6: to videotape. There was one person in particular, and I'm

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Speaker 6: just sorry, I'm forgetting his name, who has made a

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Speaker 6: big deal about it that he went there simply to

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Speaker 6: videotape what was happening as a journalist. Government didn't accept that,

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Speaker 6: didn't buy that, prosecuted him. I don't know what the

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Speaker 6: end result in his case was, but yes, the government

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Speaker 6: when it came to January sixth, did not accept I

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Speaker 6: was just there to videotape as an excuse, and so

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Speaker 6: I think if they're going to be consistent, they should

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Speaker 6: be prosecuting if there's other facts that warranted Don Lemon,

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Speaker 6: despite him saying I was just there to videotape, And

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Speaker 6: so I think that's something that's going to have to

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Speaker 6: be considered that precedent. That's why I say you do

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Speaker 6: something one way because you think it's only going to

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Speaker 6: be used against the other side, and then it can

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Speaker 6: come back to bite you when administrations change and now

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Speaker 6: you're on the receiving end. So I think that that's

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Speaker 6: going to be a question, and I think it might

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Speaker 6: be the sort of thing that the government does prosecute him,

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Speaker 6: and that'll be his defense, and a judge's going to

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Speaker 6: have to decide. I don't know which way it'll go.

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Speaker 6: I don't know enough about the facts so far to

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Speaker 6: know which way it's likely to go. But it's a

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Speaker 6: legitimate consideration by the federal government, particularly since there does

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Speaker 6: seem to be video evidence out there that he knew

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Speaker 6: about the takeover before it happened.

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Speaker 4: There's absolutely video evidence about that before I let you go?

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Speaker 4: Will you Jacobson legal insurrection dot com. The legal about this,

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Speaker 4: I think is fascinating. But there is a cultural here

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Speaker 4: that exists, and this cultural is the left desire for

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Speaker 4: violent rhetoric, for excusing violence, and for believing that the

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Speaker 4: violence is of value and necessary and deserved and righteous.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's the assassination attempt on President Trump, whether it's

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Speaker 4: the assassination of Charlie Kirk, whether it's the attack on

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Speaker 4: ICE agents, what happened in this church, which I do

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Speaker 4: not believe will be the last one for sure. Is this,

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Speaker 4: as you see it, a mover in the midterms coming

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Speaker 4: up in November.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it is, but I do agree

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Speaker 6: that things are escalating. The rhetoric is escalating, the insanity

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Speaker 6: is escalating, the urging of violence. I mean, you have

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Speaker 6: politicians on the Democrat side urging people to disrupt ICE activities.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the woman who was shot by the Ice

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Speaker 6: agent in Minneapolis and killed as her car was heading

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Speaker 6: towards him. You know, she was part of a movement

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Speaker 6: that is encouraging confrontation, that is encouraging the disruption of

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Speaker 6: lawful federal law enforcement and immigration enforcement activities. And when

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Speaker 6: Democrat politicians encourage that, that's putting people in a very

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Speaker 6: dangerous situation. And I think that's you know, the danger

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Speaker 6: here is not just that there's some crazy activists who

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Speaker 6: feel this way, but mainstream Democrats, mainstream Democrats in the media,

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Speaker 6: mainstream Democrat politicians are urging confrontation, and that's a very

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Speaker 6: dangerous situation.

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Speaker 4: William Jacobson, Cornell Law, Professor of Legal Insurrection, DOC. I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you taking the moment to be with us. More

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Speaker 4: to get to I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: So we've got sixty six percent of Hispanic supporting military

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Speaker 4: intervention in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: It's like they know something that other people don't.

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: I've been holding on to this story for a while

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Speaker 4: and I haven't gotten to it. I haven't gotten to it,

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Speaker 4: and things come up and I forget and I apologize

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Speaker 4: for that.

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Speaker 1: But it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a Morning consult survey going back to January eleventh,

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Speaker 4: and the question was, as you may know, Venezuela is

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Speaker 4: a known hub for Iranian and hes miilitara, including military

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Speaker 4: drone production and narco terrorism. Does this make you more

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Speaker 4: or less likely to support American intervention in Venezuela? Sixty

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Speaker 4: percent of respondents said they were more likely forty percent

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Speaker 4: less likely. Okay, but sixty six percent of both Hispanics

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Speaker 4: and males backed intervention. Sixty four percent of white respondents,

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Speaker 4: fifty four percent of females, and then fifty seven percent

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Speaker 4: of Black Americans opposed intervention. Forty three percent were in

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Speaker 4: support of invasion of Venezuela. Now, how is it that

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Speaker 4: Hispanics are in favor of this because they have more

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Speaker 4: likely somebody a family member, a cousin, a friend who

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Speaker 4: has a family member, or a cousin who is connected

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Speaker 4: to living under the hellscape of the Maduro regime, or

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Speaker 4: they've heard tale of the Maduro regime and a neighbor

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Speaker 4: was able to escape or leave and moved here and

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Speaker 4: then then knew somebody, and the stories that are told,

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Speaker 4: and it's horrifying. Anybody who has ever lived under socialist

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Speaker 4: rule doesn't want anything having to do with socialism. Stupid

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Speaker 4: college students want something to do with socialism, and some

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Speaker 4: of that is absolutely a life experienced conversation. And then

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Speaker 4: the college student is often telling you remember the college

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Speaker 4: student as an adult, they're grown ups. They want to

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Speaker 4: tell you, we'll see the problems. They didn't do it right. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was the problem with Stalin and Lenin. They didn't

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Speaker 4: do it right. You you genius, you understand it. That

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Speaker 4: is absolutely how they see themselves. And that's what the

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Speaker 4: Marxism is all about. It's about creating the continued revolutionary

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Speaker 4: the whole concept we can get into of things like

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Speaker 4: permanent revolution. Right, this constantly has to be happening, constantly

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Speaker 4: has to be happening. What the twenty two year old

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Speaker 4: is never told is that one day they become a

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Speaker 4: forty two year old and they're told, you didn't do

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Speaker 4: it right. You do know how to do this that

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Speaker 4: they get pushed out. Part of the reality of the

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Speaker 4: Marxist cult is that they push out those who have.

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Speaker 1: Served their usefulness. There's always a new group looking.

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Speaker 4: To have power, which is weird because they claim to

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Speaker 4: want to share the power, but they don't. They all

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Speaker 4: want the power for themselves. They all want to be

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Speaker 4: in the inside. They all want to be in the

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Speaker 4: cool kids, click, all of them all the time, in

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Speaker 4: every single way, and eventually they get pushed out because well,

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Speaker 4: that's the way it has to go. Because one of

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Speaker 4: the things that Marxism the communism breeds is paranoia. So

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Speaker 4: you're always looking over your shoulder, who's trying to take

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Speaker 4: your power, who's trying to get close to whom, who's

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Speaker 4: trying to steal all the fresh fruit? And then you

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Speaker 4: are right, so I'm gonna stick with this group, and

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Speaker 4: oh the wait, wait, there's rob I'm gonna jump over

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Speaker 4: to this group and they'll keep me in. And then

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Speaker 4: sometimes you end up in the wrong group, and that

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Speaker 4: group ends up in a gulag. And sometimes you think

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Speaker 4: you were on the inside, and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 4: you end up in a gulag and you.

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Speaker 1: Say this is amazing.

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Speaker 4: If if the leader knew I was in here, he'd

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Speaker 4: be so furious because we're such close friends. My father

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Speaker 4: rest his soul, used to discuss that all the time. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I grew up differently than you did. The dear leader

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Speaker 4: is the reason you're in the gulag. He didn't trust you.

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Speaker 4: You thought you were friends, You were on the outside.

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Speaker 4: This is what it creates. And it also has to

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Speaker 4: create a larger and larger scale of animus and viciousness,

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Speaker 4: because it has to prove to the newest generation how

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Speaker 4: much more serious it is than the previous generation. And

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Speaker 4: one of the things they don't do is listen to

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Speaker 4: the people who lived with this, who lived under this horror,

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Speaker 4: and if they spent any time, any time with it whatsoever,

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Speaker 4: actually being engaged in it, listening to these people, well

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Speaker 4: then they may say, they might say, well, this is

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Speaker 4: this is bad stuff.

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Speaker 1: This is bad. Maybe we shouldn't be in favor of it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that capitalism not so bad about the way that

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Speaker 4: capitalism awesome, It is just fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should try it.

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Speaker 4: I would be remiss if I did not take a

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Speaker 4: moment right here and right now, as a guy who

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Speaker 4: lives in Indianapolis, Indiana. I would be, I think foolish

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Speaker 4: if I did not take a moment to recognize the.

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Speaker 1: IU Hoosiers.

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Speaker 4: And the touchdown for the Ages.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get to the eighth.

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Speaker 4: He's got to takeoff and run.

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Speaker 5: Mentza waits my first time go diving todynzone touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's where he wanted to hide from. Tophy Damn

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Speaker 4: straight Chris Fowler. That's why he won the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 4: Spectacular twenty seven twenty one over the Miami Hurricanes, who

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Speaker 4: put up the fight of fights, very very impressive, but

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Speaker 4: at the end.

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Speaker 1: Sheptup deliver cut Phil Hello chepdud Domori sucks the pet

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Speaker 1: delber clints Indiana starts national Tapatu.

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Speaker 4: I gotta tell you after that game, two things happened

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Speaker 4: that I did not appreciate. And I thought Miami was

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Speaker 4: chippy throughout. It's kind of their attitude and persona and whatever.

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Speaker 4: Number one, after the game, the running back, who's Mitchell?

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Speaker 4: I believe it is for Miami through punches at an

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Speaker 4: EU player through punch player to have a helmet on

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Speaker 4: through punches. And then number two, the quarterback for the Hurricanes,

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Speaker 4: Carson Beck, walked off the field without congratulating anybody didn't

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Speaker 4: shake Fernanda Mendoza's hand, the Heisman Trophy winner, the quarterback

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Speaker 4: for IU, just walked off the field. Look, the emotions

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Speaker 4: are hard, but you're supposed to be professionals and you're

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Speaker 4: supposed to handle yourself.

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 4: Throwing the interception that would cost you the opportunity to

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Speaker 4: win had his hard stuff, but sometimes it happens. Carson Beck,

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Speaker 4: I think has got an NFL future.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't like that.

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Speaker 4: But watching IU win, Oh, this state is out of

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Speaker 4: its head, out of its head, and signetti is this

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Speaker 4: turnaround is the greatest turnaround in college sports period, end

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Speaker 4: of list. It is number one, the greatest turnaround.

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Speaker 1: It may be in all the spots.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget Tony Kats dot com tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Everyone take care in a NA