1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: It's query in company. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be keeping you company for the next few hours. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 3: You are not going to believe the company. 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: This company. You're gonna bankrupt your mama's company. At least 5 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: I have the radio to keep me company. 6 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: On ninety three to five and one oh seven five 7 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: the fan, Moley. 8 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 4: Cox and Michael Pittman Junior to the right side. 9 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: They give us to Taylor cuts off a block bearing 10 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: to us right. He to the ten path at the 11 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: fot who's gonna score? 12 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 5: You know it? 13 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Touchdown? Shotgun snap for Jones looking left. 14 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 4: He's gonna take a shot and throws a laser towards 15 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 4: the pylon and that is a catch for Michael Pittman Junior. 16 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: There's a penalty on the play, but Petman. 17 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 4: Scores a touchdown as Petman snared it in with one 18 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 4: hand on a twenty one yard absolute dart throw it 19 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: by Daniel Jones under center. Jones on first down, they 20 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: give it to Taylor left side. 21 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: He's at the twenty twenty. 22 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 4: Five thirty thirty five down the sideline, forty fifty yard line. 23 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Still going tyre up on the sideline. 24 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 6: He's got a chance ted five touchdown. 25 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor takes it eighty yards to the house. 26 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: Daniel shotgun snap, looks left, stands in the pocket. 27 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: Now he's flushed to the right side. Lookie, he's got 28 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: a part of the trucks on and. 29 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: That is a touchdown for the Coults. This time, it's 30 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: just down with a score. 31 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: Fourth red zone trip today for the Colts. Lord jump 32 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 4: past to Jonathan Taylor cuts off a block. He's at 33 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: the ten, he's at the five. He's gonna score again. Touchdown. 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 7: He's really really good. He seems like he makes play 35 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 7: after play, long run after long run, explosive. He didn't 36 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 7: have as many plays, and I guess the sweep was 37 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 7: technically in the past game. But he didn't have as 38 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 7: many plays today as he's had throughout the season. But 39 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 7: he's been really big in those situations throughout this season. 40 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 7: So yeah, just a dynamic football player. 41 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: Obviously huge. 42 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 6: You get a win at home, especially a division opponent, 43 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 6: was big. I thought our guys did a great job 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 6: defensively holding the fourteen and then offensively scoring thirty eight 45 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 6: points there. And JT had to help a game obviously, 46 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 6: the big runs there. Daniel was played awesome again. O 47 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 6: line protected well the pass rush was getting there. I 48 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 6: thought it was just a great team win. 49 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: That's how it sounded yesterday Matt Taylor from the Colts 50 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: Radio Network, a little bit of a cameo from Rick 51 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: Venturi there as well. You heard from Daniel Jones Shane Steichen. 52 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: Colts yesterday, as was expected, a resounding win over the 53 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans. And let me begin this show by saying 54 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: this on a Monday, Okay, officially, I want the city 55 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: of Indianapolis to understand, grasp, absorb, and soak in what 56 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm about to say. You Colts fans, no matter where 57 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: you're here my voice in this town or nationwide, and 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: know other people that listen to the show that live 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: in Virginia or Florida or Colorado that are from here, 60 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: that are Colts fans, and listen in. This is a 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: surreal but a real statement. We have reached the pot 62 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: with this team where yes, there is still this disbelief, 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: but this by record is not only the best team 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: in the National Football League. This by record, is not 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: only a team that is starting to look over their 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: shoulder to find out who possibly can even be hanging 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: around with them to unseat them. As the number one 68 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: seed in the AFC for home field advantage. And yes, 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: we are just now entering into the halfway era. I 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: get it, and the schedule gets a little bit tougher maybe, 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: But two things here. Number One, we have reached the 72 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: point where this football team, the Indianapolis Colts, when they 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: win games resoundingly. I'm not saying that we are back 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: to the time period of yeah, this is what I expect. 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Wake me up, like midway through the third quarter, so 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: I can see it. They're up thirty five. We're not 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: totally there yet, but you look at a game yesterday 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: and you go, yeah, I mean they they didn't even 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: play their best and it was never in question. Part 80 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: of that's Tennessee. But part of that is the balance 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: and the overall authority of this roster and this team, 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: whether you're talking about the way that they in cam 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: Ward does have some talent, does have some skill, and 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: I think the pass rush is still of question. But 85 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: defensive backfield, for example, an area where they have been 86 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: clearly and we are aware of it, shorthanded. And yet 87 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: you got guy, you know, krys La Monz comes in 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: and plays well, makes plays for them. You get Leatu Latu. 89 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: You're trying to get going. You're trying to see why 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: they were so excited about having him as the number 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: one defensive players selected in the year that he came 92 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: out in the draft. He I thought he got a 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: sack yesterday they gave him credit for a half sack. 94 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: There was some pressure there. They had four sacks of 95 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: cam Ward probably would have liked to have seen more 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: in that area for certain, But Tennessee, with exception of 97 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: their loans, you know that early score, you never felt 98 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: like there was any sort of threat. Anytime they got 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: the ball, You're like, Okay, they just did not get 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: any footing. Part of that's on Tennessee, but part of 101 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 3: that's the defense. And then offensively for Indianapolis. Michael Pittman 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: Junior with arguably the best catch he's made as a pro. 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: And this guy's been a pros pro. He's played with 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: a bad back, He's played where he was literally the 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: only guy on the field and everybody knew where the 106 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: ball was going. And now what you're seeing is this 107 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: is Michael Pittman Junior is to use a term, that 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: guy is just a dog, right and like he is 109 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: now getting his flowers of the patience that he's shown 110 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: of being the guy that never sold, never complained. I 111 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: never once heard my Pittman Junior the last two years say, guys, look, 112 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: I'm like the only guy out there. Everybody knows where 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: they're trying to get the ball. And I never heard 114 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: him soulk about it, never heard him complain. And yes, 115 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: they had little bits and blips of when they had 116 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: help for him. I mean, Josh Downs obviously showed promise 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: young Johnathan Taylor show, but in terms of getting it 118 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: all going in one area like they are right now. 119 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: And yesterday was a game where the Colts almost kind 120 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: of slept walk through the first half, you could say. 121 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: And yet just by continuing to go through the motion 122 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: of what they do, you saw how big the separation is. 123 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: And the Indianapolis Colts are at a point now where 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: you look at wins and I'm not saying that we're spoiled, 125 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: but we're already getting to that point of yeah, I 126 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: get it, they were supposed to win. I get it. 127 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: You know what jumped out at you, I don't know 128 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: they pulled away. We knew they were going to great. 129 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: I was able to go get like a pretzel and 130 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: a beer at one point, and I, you know, I 131 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: knew maybe I'd missed a score, but there wasn't gonna 132 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: be some miraculous comeback. This is an unbelievably solid and 133 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: balanced football team. And I've said it now for probably 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: three weeks. Credit to Chris Ballard. The areas in which 135 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: he was building them that we all were rolling our 136 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: eyes over are now starting to pay off. Their offensive 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: line is solid, their quarterback play is at this point 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: still elite. Their wide receivers are plentiful, their tight end 139 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: is dynamic, and they're running back is game changing. And 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: the Colts are now seven to one. And then they 141 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: got a huge assist last night. And you don't think it. 142 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: You don't think it's a big assist last night, but 143 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: as you were sitting back and you were enjoying the 144 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: fruits of a late four to twenty five kick, which 145 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: was unusual, and by the time you get home, it's 146 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: like eight o'clock probably, and you know, you're sitting there 147 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: and you're kicking back and you're like man, and you're 148 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: looking at the rest of the scores around the league. 149 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: And then the late game comes on Sunday Night football, 150 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: the Steelers and the Packers, and at one point it 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: was difficult to determine. I was like, wait, wait, I 152 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: can't remember is this game in green Bay or Pittsburgh 153 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: because you could hear the fans, right, and the uniforms, 154 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: and the uniforms, yes. 155 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: God, those were awful. 156 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: You didn't like them. I hated the Steelers' uniforms. Those 157 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: were disgusting. The Steelers have like a number of throwback 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: uniforms that are weird, right, and they were just like, 159 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: my name is Eddie Garrison, by the way, for just 160 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: tuning in Eddie Garrison. The other voice you on this program, 161 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: It is Query and Company here on ninety three five 162 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: and one oh seven five. The fan Eddie. That Pittsburgh 163 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: game last night, Yes, you can look at it and say, okay, 164 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: did green Bay give Pittsburgh some sort of a wake 165 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: up call of now where there's like I'm not gonna say, 166 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: a desperation for Pittsburgh, but a greater sense of urgency 167 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: with Indianapolis coming in now, with the Colts going on 168 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: the road to Pittsburgh next week. I don't know about that. 169 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: What I know is this, as I was watching that 170 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: game and for the better part of the first half, 171 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: of that game, it kind of felt like Pittsburgh, I'm 172 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: not gonna say it was in control of it, but 173 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: you're looking at it going okay, and then Jordan Love, 174 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: you know, I thought Green Bay showed an offensive balance 175 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, the Packers ended up winning that game, 176 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 3: and once they got the lead, you just kind of, 177 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: you know, man, Pittsburgh just couldn't get anything going in 178 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: the second half. But nonetheless, it doesn't sound like a 179 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: huge difference between you know, going into that game, what 180 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: their records were, between Pittsburgh winning and losing that game. 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: But follow me here as I was watching it. Okay, 182 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's coming in four and three and five and two 183 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: does not sound like a huge difference. Just s done. Yeah, okay, whatever, 184 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: They're fine. They're still like a top their division, and 185 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: that division's crumbling. Baltimore yesterday got a nice win, but 186 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: they're two and five. Cleveland's a dumpster fire, Cincinnati's a 187 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: dumpster fire. 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: You know. 189 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: But now what that game did and where this is 190 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: a huge cushion, is you give yourself a little bit 191 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: more even margin for air. Because I was thinking about 192 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: it with that game beginning and saying to myself, even 193 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: though the Colts have the late bye, so they have 194 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: one more game played. I'm thinking, okay, the Cults are 195 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: going in at seven and one next week. If Pittsburgh 196 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: wins this game last night, they are still then in 197 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: the lost column, within putting themselves in position to in 198 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: the lost column be tied with Indianapolis by winning it 199 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: home next week. As it stands, now, even more margin 200 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: for air for the Colts, because going into Pittsburgh you're 201 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: looking for any break you can get. They got one 202 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: last night. Green Bay did Indianapolis a major solid and 203 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: the Colts. Now when you look at it, Eddie, when 204 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: you look at right now, not just the AFC, but 205 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: the NFL in general, you say to yourselves, and I 206 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: want everybody to hear me out here, and almost pinch yourself. Okay, 207 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: the Colts are seven and one, and you think it 208 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: doesn't feel like still they're like clicking on all Maybe 209 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm not giving them enough credit. It doesn't feel like 210 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: it's It is surreal to think they're the best team 211 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: in the NFL. But who is better? Who scares you? 212 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: The Colts have a home game tomorrow in the playoffs. 213 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: Who worries you coming in here? They're only even if 214 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: I'll put it this way, in the AFC, I think 215 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: there's there's twenteen. You say one one. Who's the one? 216 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Kansas City? What about Buffalo? 217 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 8: Nah? 218 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: Even though they cruise by, you know, Carolina, they still 219 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: didn't look great yesterday. And I have questions about their defense. 220 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: But you're going to stop the run. No, They've played 221 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: a very favorable schedule like the Colts. That's the thing 222 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: for the Colts. 223 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: Now. I'm not gonna say it gets real, but the 224 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: schedule gets trickier, not necessarily hard. Matt murder Ram's gonna 225 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: join us two o'clock today, the NFL Rider, and he'll 226 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: give us better indication on this on what he thinks 227 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: of it. But if you look at the next three, Okay, 228 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh got Pittsburgh. That doesn't overly concern me. But you 229 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: can't have a half like the Colts had yesterday where 230 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: you're just kind of going through motion against Pittsburgh. Not 231 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: that Pittsburgh's some high flying, elite level offense, but they 232 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: are pretty sound defensively. I just Pittsburgh, you gotta be 233 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: aware of. Okay, Atlanta in Germany just kind of one 234 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: of those tricky games because you just don't know. Atlanta 235 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: is good defensively, I don't think Atlanta is terrible. And 236 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: then Kansas City in Kansas City is going to be tough. 237 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 3: But even with that, even with that, who jumps out 238 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 3: of you? I mean Seattle and San Francisco. That's it. Yep, 239 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: there are your tests. There are your remaining tests. The 240 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: rest of it. The AFC South Thrid, okay, whatever, right. 241 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the fortunate thing for the Colts is that 242 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: they have Kansas City coming off the bye week, so 243 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: they have a week to prepare. 244 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 3: Now here is another thing, and Indiana football was dynamic 245 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: on Saturday. We will get into that Indiana basketball yesterday, 246 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: and then the Pacers are a mass unit. I mean, 247 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: there's plenty to get to over the course of today, 248 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: but I want to begin with this when it comes 249 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: to the Colts. We were just talking about it off 250 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: the air, but I think it is it's a wonderful 251 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 3: problem to have, a wonderful problem to have. If you 252 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 3: look look up the definition, Eddie, can you do me 253 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: a favorite, please, because this is an age old discussion 254 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: and argument. Can you look up for me the criteria 255 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: or the definition if there even is one listed for 256 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: the NFL awards of what the criteria is for most 257 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: valuable Player. Now, it goes without saying, it goes without saying, 258 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: the NFL MVP, Jake, You're an idiot. Yeah, we know that, 259 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: you're an idiot. The NFL MVP is the guy that 260 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: is the most valuable in the league, right, Okay. 261 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: A Most Valuable Player award is handed out each year 262 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: to the player adjudged to be the most valuable in 263 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: the NFL that season. Okay, Now, can you look up 264 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year. The NFL Offensive Player of 265 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: the Year Award is an annual award given by various 266 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: organizations to the player who is considered the top offensive 267 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: player during the regular season. These organizations include APPFWA, and 268 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: Sporting News. The APIECE award is recognized at the annual 269 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: NFL Honors ceremony. 270 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: Now by those definitions, and I'm literally splitting hairs here, 271 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: I realize, and it's a good problem to have. But 272 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts right now on their roster through eight games, 273 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts have both the Offensive Player of the 274 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: Year and the most valuable player both and both of 275 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: them are not the same person. Now, there have been 276 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: times where you look at it and you go, oh, 277 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: this guy you know, But in this case, the top 278 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: offensive player and the most valuable player in the national 279 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: football LIKEGUE, AFC, NFL, whichever you want to look at, 280 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: I mean to take the entire planet. Jonathan Taylor yesterday 281 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: once again showed. I believe I heard Shane Stike and say, 282 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: it's what the first time that a back has had 283 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: three three touchdown games in a season? 284 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: He's had four? 285 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: Is it four? 286 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: Now? 287 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Three consecutive against three sective. 288 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: That's what it is. So either way, Jonathan Taylor when 289 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: he breaks free for an eighty yard run and Jonathan 290 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: Taylor is going down the sidelines, I'm watching Jonathan Taylor 291 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: and I'm thinking back to something I'm thinking back to 292 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: when I was a kid, and I believe it was. 293 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: Drew Pearson was an NFL wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys, 294 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: kind of a showman type. Not a bad player, not elite, 295 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: but a good player. And Lynn Swan I'm going on 296 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: the way back here, I realize and both of those 297 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: wide receivers, two wide receivers for two of the novaded 298 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: franchises of the late seventies, early eighties and I'm a kid, 299 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: and as a kid, I'm just enamored by the National 300 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: Football League and the aura of the NFL, and the 301 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: aura of the NFL when I was a kid was 302 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: that it was this, you know, the voice of John 303 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: Facinda telling me about like hard hits and ice bowls 304 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: and lambeau Field and Jack Lambert and the Oakland Raiders 305 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: and all of that, right, and it's all tough guy 306 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: grit image stuff. And then two of the marquee players 307 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: that I'm seeing in the NFL, Drew Pearson and Lynn Swann, 308 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: and I see this NFL film's little vignette about how 309 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: both of them in the offseason take ballet classes, and 310 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: this dichotomy goes through my mind as a little kid, like, 311 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: wait a minute, how can big time NFL tough John 312 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: Steam coming off the helmets, how can these guys be 313 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: taking ballet lessons? And then I see them explain it 314 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: that they take ballet lessons not because they want to 315 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: be Barishnikov, but rather because there are times and situations 316 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: where they have to have body balance of towing the 317 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: line and not falling out of bounds and tiptoeing while 318 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: they run. And even as a little kid, I thought, 319 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: that's brilliant, the this yin and yang of the tough, 320 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: tough football style, and yet in that moment having the 321 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: finesse and for the Colts, there is an element of 322 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 3: that on display each and every Sunday because we were 323 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: told going into it, like four years ago, when Chris 324 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: Ballard built this team that it was going to start 325 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: in the trenches, and it was they were gonna be 326 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: a tough team, and they were, and they have a 327 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: running back and they're you know, just run the damn ball, 328 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: Quentin Nelson. You know, I mean, you know, Quinton, You're 329 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: gonna be like Hannah, you know, winning Pro Bowls. Just 330 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: run the damn And all of us were saying, what 331 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: are you talking about. It's a finesse league now, it's 332 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: a passer league now. But what we saw on display 333 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: as Jonathan Taylor's running down that field is that that 334 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: yen and yang can exist all in one. You have 335 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: a team that can be the tough Tyler Warren, Quentin 336 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: Nelson smash mouth football team, but then you also have 337 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: one that can pop loose with a Jonathan Taylor and 338 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: he's running down the sideline, He's balancing himself and he 339 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: has that finesse and breaking through a line. Now he 340 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: had a line that was the size of or a 341 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: hole that was the size of Meridian Street. But there's 342 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: a yen and yang in the way the Colts can 343 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: beat you. They can out physical U offensively by throwing 344 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: it to Tyler Warren and getting yards after catch. They 345 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: can out physical you by throwing it to in the 346 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: corner of the end zone to Michael Pittman and having 347 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 3: him use one arm to ward off the defender, the 348 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: other de corral in a pass, and they can pop 349 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: Jonathan Tailor between the tackles or off guard and then 350 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: get him on the sidelines and allow him to use 351 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: that finesse and balance himself down the sidelines while sprinting 352 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: away from everybody. All of it was on display, and 353 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 3: in watching all of that, what I was thinking to 354 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: myself is there's also this yin and yang of what's 355 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: the most valuable player and who's the player of the year. 356 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: The offensive player of the year right now in the 357 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: National Football League is Jonathan Taylor. What he is doing 358 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: is on a different level than any of his peers. 359 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: What he is doing is putting away games or salting them. 360 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: What he is doing is separating himself and his team 361 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: and a finesse or a tough way, whichever way is 362 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: needed week in and week out. He is the best 363 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: offensive weapon in the National Football League in twenty twenty five. 364 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 3: And the most valuable player in the NFL is not 365 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, who is extremely valuable and everything I just mentioned. 366 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: You would say, wait a minute, Jake, that defines value, correct, 367 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: But the most valuable player right now in the National 368 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: Football League hold the phone. Whoever would have guessed I 369 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: said it. The most valuable player in the NFL in 370 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five is Daniel Jones of the Indianapolis Colts. 371 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: Because Daniel Jones is not only playing at an incredibly 372 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: efficient level, Daniel Jones is not only not turning the 373 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: ball over, taking care of the football, controlling possessions, figuring 374 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: out methodically each and every play where the ball needs 375 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: to go, either to get more yardage on a play 376 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: or to get out of what was a bad play 377 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: based on the look that is there by going through progressions. 378 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: He is absolutely masterfully delivering on what his coach, a 379 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: quarterback whisperer, has awakened in him. And yes, maybe that's 380 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: because he has Jonathan Taylor behind him like he had 381 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley early when he had a good year in 382 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: New York. So wouldn't that make Taylor more valuable? Understood? 383 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: But Daniel Jones in terms of replacement of the next guy. 384 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: You take Jonathan Taylor out of the mix for the Colts, 385 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: you put another running back in. You get sixty percent 386 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: the production out of the backfield. Perhaps, But you still 387 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: can throw to Tyler Warren. You still can throw to 388 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: Michael Pittman. You still can throw to Josh Downs, You 389 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: still can roll out Daniel Jones. You still can throw 390 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: to Alec Pierce. You take Daniel Jones out of that 391 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: offense and put in Riley Leonard, who is a younger player, 392 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: or put in Anthony Richardson. You are limiting yourself now 393 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: on the number of progressions, the number of reeds you 394 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: can go through, the number of times you can get 395 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: out of a bad play. Daniel Jones is the most 396 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 3: valuable player on a team that happens to have the 397 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 3: guy that is the best offensive player in the NFL. 398 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: All of it spells together to say this. The Indianapolis 399 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: Colts are seven and one. The Indianapolis Colts are the 400 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: best team in the NFL right now, based on what 401 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: they've done, based on the manner in which they're doing 402 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: it and the number of ways in which they're doing it, 403 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 3: and based on the fact that right now, nearing the 404 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: halfway point, right now, the Lombardi Trophy winning and getting 405 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 3: yourself into the Super Bowl goes through Indianapolis, Indiana, no 406 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: matter who. Now that's we'll see if that sustains. Now 407 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: things get not harder but a little more tricky. But 408 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: another team in the area that is the best in 409 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: the country. I truly believe it. Indiana football is the 410 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: number one team in college football. They don't make mistakes, 411 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: they take control of the football, they force you into 412 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: bad situations, and they absolutely impose their will on people. 413 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: And they did it with the UCLA and their basketball 414 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: team had an exhibition against Baylor yesterday. Don Fisher was 415 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: on the call for both. He joins us. Next, we'll 416 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: talk about that loaded show today Mike Chapple joining ust 417 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: to Ram joins us and reading all of your comments 418 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: in eight words or fewer on where you think the 419 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: Colts are. We'll do it all over the course of today. 420 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: A Monday Victorious Monday yet another one seven out of 421 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: eight here on Querying Company on the fan woes. Don 422 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: Fisher is in fact on the Java House Peel and 423 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: poor guest line Java house dot com. By the way, 424 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: search for my name on there. You can see the 425 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: Quarry Bundle. Use Jake twenty five get twenty five percent off. 426 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: Don Fisher joining us now and listen a busy weekend. Don. 427 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you the choice because we had 428 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: the introduction to seeing the basketball team against Baylor yesterday, 429 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: and then obviously Indiana's just continued impressive play on the 430 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: football field on Saturday against UCLA. So I will give 431 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: you the choice basketball football which one we want to 432 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: lead with here? 433 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: Well, because I better get football out of the way first, 434 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: since it was two days ago and I could forget 435 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things. But U that said, the football 436 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: team was really impressive on Saturday, taking not a team 437 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: that had gotten new coaching staff, a new player, not 438 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: new players, but new systems and new formations and all 439 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. And a lot of folks thought 440 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: that Indiana was going to have some problems with UCLA. 441 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: It didn't go out and come out that way simply 442 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: because it started out with two plays in an interception 443 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: by Aidan Fisher running in for a touchdown of twenty 444 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: five yards. And I'm telling you, you could just almost 445 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: feel the air come out of the balloon for UCLA 446 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: after that play. And I'm not saying that they didn't 447 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: play hard the rest of the first half or whatever, 448 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: but the game got out of hand fairly quickly, and 449 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: Indiana just dominated the Bruins in that contest. And it 450 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 1: wasn't even Indiana's best performance of the year. It was 451 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: really just kind of what you would call an average 452 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: effort on the Indiana part. And I say that because 453 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Indiana just had controlled the game the entire time and 454 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: you never felt like there was going to be a problem. 455 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, don because and whoever would have guessed 456 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: this was going to be the case in the fact 457 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: that the Colts are almost like India. It's like Sunday, 458 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: we're seeing almost what you saw on Saturday. And the 459 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: fact that when you have a team you're like, yeah, okay, 460 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: they are playing at such a high level that even 461 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: like a lethargic's the wrong word, but yes, I mean 462 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 3: a game where maybe you aren't even clicking on all 463 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: cylinders and you're that much more superior than the opponent. 464 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: And Indiana, I thought we saw that on Saturday. I'll 465 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: be honest, I was thinking about this today on my 466 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: way in, and I thought, if I was going to 467 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: ask Don Fisher a question of concern about Indiana football, 468 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: I don't know where it would be. I just don't. 469 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe at times kind of quo going through 470 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: the motions, but don it just seems like a football 471 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: team that doesn't really have a weakness that you are 472 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: hoping the other team exposes. Is that fair? 473 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: Well, it is at this point, Jake, because if we 474 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: know injuries can take their toll, and we never know 475 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: how that's going to play out. And Aiden Fisher got 476 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: hurt in that ballgame in the first half. He did 477 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: not play the rest of the ballgame. And I think 478 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: he is one of the really key pieces of personnel 479 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: on this roster that they can't afford to lose, simply 480 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: because he is the leader of the defense and he's 481 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: a good portion of the leader for the entire ball club. 482 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: He has got all that experience under Kurt Signetti. He 483 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: has been one of the more vocal guys in regard 484 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: to how he goes about his business, communication on the field, 485 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: communication with his teammates, and again, the linebacking corps is 486 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: a thinner corps anyway. They've got three really good linebackers 487 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: in this ball club, Isaiah Jones being the third, along 488 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: with Elijah Hardy. But when you look at Indiana, if 489 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: they have a weakness, it would be at certain spots 490 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: depth wise, but other than that, you don't see anything, 491 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: and you certainly don't see it in the way they 492 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: go about their business on the field. They are methodical 493 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: in the sense of being ready to play, being focused, 494 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: how to play hard, physical, relentless, fast, efficient, just about 495 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: every term you could use from an adjective standpoint. This 496 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: team is just excellent at all of it. And buck 497 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Snore has constantly said here in the last couple of 498 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: weeks he thinks that Indiana is the best team in 499 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: the country and he includes Ohio State in that mix. 500 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: Now that's saying something, because the Buckeyes are really good 501 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: and they have been for a long time, and their 502 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: defense this year is spectacular. But I think Buckley believes that, 503 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: and I think Indiana fans o don't to believe it too, 504 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: because they have basically shown that in every game they 505 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: played that this team is for real. 506 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: Don It's so interesting to me. By the way, Kurtzignetti says, 507 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: Aidan Fisher is quote probable for Indiana's game coming up Saturday, 508 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: at least as of right now at Maryland. It's interesting 509 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: when you know, I look and I look each Sunday 510 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: evening and I read there's a national you know, a 511 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: group a panelists on ESPN that ranks where they believe 512 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: the college football playoff rankings would be if it were 513 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: to start right now, which is ludicrous because it doesn't 514 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 3: start right now right there's a lot of football to 515 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: be played, but it does get barometer as to the 516 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: perception of teams and what people think the respect level. 517 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting this week twelve panelists, seven 518 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: have Ohio state number one, five have Indiana number one. 519 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: So the difference is not near as far. The gap 520 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: is not as far as I think a lot of 521 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: people would believe, because Indiana has the best win on 522 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: the season, you know, winning at Oregon, and they just 523 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: don't have a lot of weakness. Now, I wanted to 524 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: ask you about this. You know, Mendoza has been so good. 525 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: I think he's right now the best quarterback in the 526 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: country and maybe a Heisman front runner at that point. 527 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: Don in your opinion, when you look at the precision 528 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: in which he is able to deliver the football in 529 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: Indiana's passing game, is able to click. Is it quarterback 530 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: that can see and put the ball exactly where it 531 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: needs to be for his receivers or is it receivers 532 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: in notably Cooper and sarat who have been outstanding, that 533 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: are able to have the right route run to get 534 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: themselves right where they need to be. Or is it 535 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: the perfect marriage of both. 536 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: It's literally the perfect marriage of both. Because Fernando just 537 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: had an okay game on Curtay. He wasn't spectacular. I 538 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: mean he was when he threw those three touchdown passes, 539 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: but he had a fifteen for twenty two completion percentage 540 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: in that ball game, which is you know, and his parlace, 541 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: or at least in the parlance and what people think 542 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: about Fernando if he has missed more than three or 543 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: four passes in the ball game, everybody seems to say, well, 544 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: that was just not all that great performaich today. And 545 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: yet he was fifty for twenty two one hundred and 546 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: sixty eight yards three touchdowns. He also had five rushes 547 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: in that ball game for forty five yards of a touchdown, 548 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: and then his brother came in. His brother came in 549 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. It did essentially the same kind 550 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: of things that he was doing. So all I can 551 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: tell you at this point is, and here's the one 552 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: thing you've got to know, this receiving corps is really special. 553 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: And E. J. Williams had a great game on Saturday. 554 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Elijah Surat and Omar Cooper were just very average in 555 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: regard to how many passes they caught and what was 556 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: accomplished with those passes. But it just tells you how 557 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: complete this football team is right now in the sense 558 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: of what they've got on the field. Not necessarily depth 559 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: wise at certain positions, but this is just a very 560 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: complete football team and you see it in both the 561 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: offensive side and the defensive side. 562 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: Don to kind of put a bow on football. Two questions. 563 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: You're number one, how many times did you practice saying 564 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: Niko's last name leading up to Saturday's game? And the 565 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: number two, I believe last week on the show, Jake 566 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: asked you about Fernando Mendoza and you said you hadn't 567 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: interviewed him yet, and you got to do that on Saturday. 568 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: Is there anything that we need to ask you to 569 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: speak into existence that you need for good fortune? 570 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: Well, the first thing you need to know is I 571 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: did practice Nico's last name about a million times and 572 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: still got it wrong a couple of times on Saturday. 573 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: So that wasn't a perfect performance by any stretching imagination. 574 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Yamli Ava's how you say it, But I screwed that 575 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: up two or three times. And my co host on 576 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: the show, as far as the pre game halftime a 577 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: post game, John Harry, he got it wrong every time 578 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: he said it, So I know it wasn't It wasn't easy. 579 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: But that being said, and we'll be your second question. 580 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I said last week on the show, you 581 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: said something about not having the chance to interview for 582 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: Nando Mendoza yet, and you got to write that ship 583 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: on Saturday. Is there anything else you need us to 584 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: ask you to put in a good fortune? 585 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: Well, anything you say is probably going to work out 586 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: to my benefit just at this point in time, because 587 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: nothing seems to be going wrong for Indiana right now. 588 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: Don Can you just simply mention that you'd like to 589 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: see the Pacers get healthy and then that way boom, 590 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 3: we're we're back to square one here in a week. 591 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: Because I mean, you know, hey, well, I. 592 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Can tell you this what the Pacers did to that 593 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: opening game of the season to get to double overtime 594 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: and missing basically about four different players, and then Nemar 595 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: gets hurt on top of that. I'll tell you what, 596 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: Rick Carlile is one of the best coaches in the NBA, 597 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: if not the best coach in the NBA with what 598 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: he's been able to accomplish with this Pacer organization. He's 599 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: always been a great coach. Everybody knew that. Obviously. I 600 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: had an NBA championship in Dallas, but that was close 601 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: to getting another one last year. It probably should have 602 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: happened if if the star guard doesn't, if Halliburton doesn't 603 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: get hurt, how events they win that game. 604 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: I just you know, okay, speaking of basketball by the 605 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: way and great coaches, you know, we don't know whether 606 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: Indiana has one now. And I agree on Rick Carlisle, 607 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: by the way and Darren Devreese. But what I like 608 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: is this, and I wanted you to be able to elaborate, 609 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: because Indiana wins an exhibition game over Baylor at Gambridge 610 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: Field House. But I like the fact that Indiana I 611 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 3: know nothing of their roster, and I think a lot 612 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: of people don't. I mean, I know Lamar Wilkerson is 613 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: a guy that's a volume scorer, and I know that 614 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: you know Tucker to Breeze is a guy that can 615 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: shoot and can score probably in waves as well. But 616 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: it seemed to me like at the very least Indiana 617 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: took care of the basketball and is going to be 618 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 3: relentless defensively. What other observations jumped out to you. 619 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: Well, the thing that does jump out of me is 620 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: how resilient they are getting down I think I told 621 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: you this before that I went to Puerto Rico with 622 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: them summer. I didn't broadcast any games. I was just 623 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: there to build relationships with the coaching staff and with 624 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: the players, just getting to know these guys because everybody 625 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: was brand new, including the staff with there, and de 626 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Breze is the new head coach. But what I saw 627 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: down there was exactly what I saw in that game 628 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday yesterday. They fight their butts off on defense. 629 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: They are really good defensively in that sense, and they 630 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: bought into defensive play. I think this team is talented. 631 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how talented, because they're going to come 632 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: up against teams in the ten, and as the season 633 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: goes along, they're going to have much more talent than 634 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: they do. But I just don't think they're going to 635 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: ever be eaten by anybody. I could be wrong about 636 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: that way way away from getting the season still a 637 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: week over a week and the real tests won't start 638 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: for a while. But the key with this basketball team 639 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: number one, they are really well coached. They're in debris 640 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: every place. He's bet. He's been success. I love his 641 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: demeanor on the sidelines, how he deals with players coming 642 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: in and out of ballgames. He's got disciplined. They are tough, 643 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: they are mentally tough, and they've proven that in three 644 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: of the games that I've seen now I've seen him 645 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: play four times. I saw him play Puerto Rico, which 646 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: they abolished. Then they played the same Servian team twice, 647 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: won both of those ball games, and now they've beat 648 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: a Baylor team. It's really a pretty good basketball team, 649 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: at least personnel wise, and everybody's finding themselves because both 650 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: of these rosters yesterday were brand new to their respective coaches. 651 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: They were all brand new guys. So in that sense, 652 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: all I can tell you at this point is I 653 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: love what I see in this basketball team. I love 654 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: how hard they play, and I think the fan base 655 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: is going to fall in love with him because they 656 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: are fighters. They will battle you right to the end, 657 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: and they've proven that in three ball games now, and. 658 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: I get the feeling that. Again, it's very early, but 659 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: you know, I go back to in my brain works 660 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: weird some times in terms of being able to recall 661 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 3: something way too long ago. But if you look at 662 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: that group that Mike Davis had that went to the 663 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: Final Four with Kyle Hornsby and Dane Fife and Tom 664 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 3: Coverdale and Jared Odle, you always had a couple of 665 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 3: guys on the floor that could almost contagiously start hitting 666 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 3: threes in waves, right, And I think Indiana is going 667 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: to be a volume three point shooting team and there 668 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: are going to be games where that's going to be 669 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 3: massive for them, and then there are other games where 670 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 3: sometimes it just doesn't fall and that becomes contagious as well. 671 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 3: That to me is going to be interesting because I 672 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: do think they have some guys that can shoot the 673 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: basketball and I think he's going to give them the 674 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: green light to do that. But we shall see a 675 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: lot of basketball between you now in the end of 676 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 3: the year. Alabama A and M. Is when the Hoosiers 677 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: get things started. That is going to be a week 678 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: from Wednesday. Football at Maryland coming up on Saturday as well. 679 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 3: Don Fisher will be the voice for all of it. 680 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: Don appreciate the time as always, all right. 681 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: Yet, thanks for having me, Jake, appreciate. 682 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 3: Don Fisher joining us on the Java House Peel and 683 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 3: poor guest line as the users again Alabama A and M. Man, 684 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: I might have to see if doctor White wants to 685 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: go to the game. Doctor White was the all time 686 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: I believe he was the all time leading scorer. Eugene White, 687 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: my high school principal, who of course went on to 688 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: become the superintendent of Washington Township in Ips the president 689 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 3: of Martin University. He was at the time of his graduation. 690 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 3: I believe he was the all time leading scorer at 691 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 3: Alabama A and M basketball history. He's in their Athletic 692 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. I know that we should go down 693 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: and watch that game coming up a week from Wednesday. 694 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: All right, my chap I'm going to join us about 695 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: fifteen from now talking about the Colts. And there was 696 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 3: one thing I think that was overlooked in terms of 697 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: a real positive yesterday and has nothing to do with 698 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, has nothing to do with the blowout victory. 699 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: I'll explain next little modernization of Schoolhouse Rock. I love 700 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: Dala Soul, I love Dyla soul man me myself and 701 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: I soul three feet high in rising and whenever you 702 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 3: got a song day La Soul unbelievab And I'm not 703 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: saying they didn't get proper due, but they're very underrated, 704 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 3: very underrated, PM Dawn, underrated, for what it's worth, one 705 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 3: underrated aspect of the Colts win yesterday, there was a 706 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: ton of love about yesterday. Matter of fact, Eddie Garrison, 707 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 3: I will put this trivia question to you. Okay, there's 708 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 3: only one nitpick I would have from the Colts. 709 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: Yesterday, Oh the Colts specifically, Okay. 710 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 3: Only let me rephrase that, only one nitpick I have 711 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 3: of the Colts game yesterday. Okay. 712 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: Is it the fact that Tyler Warren did not get 713 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: a touchdown on National tight Ends Day? 714 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 3: No, good, good. 715 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 2: This is the fact that the Tennessee offense was moving 716 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 2: the ball down the field in the first half with 717 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: little to no resistance from the Colts defense. 718 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: No, but but good point, not it. No, You're not 719 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 3: wrong on either of those things. I mean, those are 720 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 3: fair critiques, but not what it. I was laying in 721 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 3: bed thinking about the game. Now, when were you laying 722 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: in bed, Jake three eight this morning? Okay, And I'm 723 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 3: staring at the ceiling and sugar plum fairies are going 724 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 3: through my head of the Michael Pittman touchdown and the 725 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor run and Daniel Jones making the right calls 726 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: and Shane Steichen after the game congratulating, you know, Chris 727 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 3: Lamans for playing solid, and carl Ers Gordon taking notes 728 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 3: and then high five in guys, and Grover Stewart on 729 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 3: the video board making a joke about the fact that 730 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: the kids that had to draw his picture made him 731 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: look like a giraffe, and you know, just fun all 732 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: the way around, and all of it's going through my mind. 733 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: And yet there was one thing where I was the Grench. 734 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 3: There was one thing where I was the Grench. Right, 735 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 3: trying to think here doesn't have to do with your 736 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 3: fantasy team doesn't because I mean, I think you're beating 737 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: me right now. And I saw mister Rice going, it's 738 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: not that okay, John a blank. Yesterday was perfect. Oh 739 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: the four to twenty five start. You got to get up, 740 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 3: do what you might do on a Sunday, whether you 741 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 3: want to go for a walk, take the dog out, 742 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 3: go look at the leaves in Brown County. Make sure 743 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: so to the Hobknob restaurant. Do want to be careful 744 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: because the wet leaves are particular dangerous. Go to the 745 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 3: Hobnob in Brown County. See the beautiful turn of the 746 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 3: leaves that's still open. Go to church open until mid November. 747 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: Go to church, et cetera. Right, any of it perfect, 748 00:41:53,280 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 3: perfect blue sky colors, leaves falling in crisp, beautiful apple, red, 749 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 3: golden hue, all of it nice. Early sixties or low 750 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 3: sixties to start the game dropping down in the mid fifties, 751 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean it was football, man like. It was fall 752 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: autumn football weather, just perfect, just gorgeous. And I thought 753 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 3: to myself walking in, what are we gonna see here? 754 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 3: This is awesome, This is awesome. A later start, you 755 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 3: got a chance to still get things done. On a Sunday, gorgeous, 756 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 3: nice little breeze going. We're gonna see Jonathan Taylor running 757 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 3: along the sidelines. We're gonna see Pittman making an unbelievable catch. 758 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 3: We're gonna see Yatu Latu get in there and get 759 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: a half sad. I mean, we're gonna see it all. 760 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna see Daniel Jones's f Alex Pierce is down 761 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: there somewhere. 762 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 3: And what better way to do it than to get 763 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: together on a day like that and sit indoors. That 764 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 3: is the perfect day. If we're gonna spend a hut 765 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 3: thirty million additional dollars on a stadium with a retractable roof, 766 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: why in the world was it not open yesterday? But 767 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: I digress. The good news for the Colts is they 768 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: came out of that game relatively unscathed from an injury standpoint. 769 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 3: Anthony Gould had a knee they're gonna have to look 770 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: at and Daniel Jones keep an eye on this. I'm 771 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 3: curious of this. Late in the game, Daniel Jones did 772 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: have a hit where he did land awkwardly on the back. 773 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't land on the back of his head, 774 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: but the back of his head hit the turf pretty 775 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 3: hard and yes, seemingly okay. But sometimes when guys do 776 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 3: go into concussion protocol, those symptoms come on over the 777 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 3: course of the week, and that is something I think 778 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 3: that is going to be interesting to keep an eye on. 779 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: Josh Downs, he was one of those players. 780 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Downs and then remember Downs practiced, I think, 781 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 3: and then you know what I mean. That was Pierce. 782 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: He practiced, was coming back from the concut ession, practiced 783 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 2: and then suffered a set back and they ended up 784 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: missing another week. 785 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: This from Jeff with a j Hobknob is open until 786 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 3: November the second, so you got time still to go 787 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 3: in there, go down and enjoy it. Mike Chapel wxin 788 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: and CBS four joins us next and later we will 789 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 3: read for you some of your eight words summary of 790 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 3: the Colts through eight games and some texts as well. 791 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 3: Checking in on the text line at two three, nine 792 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 3: ten seventy. You can also always text me independently, because 793 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 3: I like sometimes I'll call people afterwards, especially if they 794 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 3: text me something and they're like, dude, you're moron, and 795 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: then I call and I'm like, Noah, you're not wrong. 796 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 3: I probably am Uh, my number is three one seven 797 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: five two three ninety two eighty eight. It's five two 798 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: three ninety two eight eight. The text line for the 799 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 3: station is three one seven two three nine ten seventy. 800 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 3: Like Chris who chimes in, I knew Quarry would complain 801 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: about the roof and was talking to my brother about it. 802 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 3: We landed on good teams benefit from perfect conditions. No 803 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 3: reason to bring variables into it. My two cents. Time 804 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 3: to let the one hundred and thirty million dollars add 805 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 3: on go. That's a lot of money, though it was 806 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 3: the thing to do at the time. Little reason to 807 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 3: open it and have the sun getting people's eyes. Okay, 808 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 3: this from Dispenser, as he calls himself meaning retired pharmacist. Yeah, 809 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 3: why was the roof closed four thirty start? The sun 810 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 3: was not an issue. It was the perfect day for 811 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 3: outdoor football. Oh yes, I was there. I do think 812 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 3: that the first I get it. 813 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 2: No, I was sure that's the conclusion on that person's 814 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: ain't being Dispenser. 815 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: Oh yes, it begins letter off for. 816 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: Being something I would be interested in. 817 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 3: The definitely, Well, it says no, Dispenser, and then in 818 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 3: parenthes it says I'm a retired pharmacist. Yeah, I know, 819 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: not the kind you're talking about, Eddie. Java House, Peel 820 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: and poor guest line again. Java house dot com the website. 821 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 3: There's the query bundle on there now. That means that 822 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 3: you get Colombian Coffee, you get the Liquid Science, which 823 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: is the refreshment beverage, rehydration after a workout, also Wrangler energy. 824 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 3: You get it all with the querybundle. You go to 825 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 3: Java house dot com. You put in my last name, 826 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: it'll take you right to it, and then you put 827 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 3: Jake twenty five you get twenty five percent off. Basically, 828 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 3: we need you buying the bundles so that we can 829 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 3: continue to do a radio show. That's kind of what 830 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 3: it comes down to. Mike Chapel joins us now on 831 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 3: said guest line. He is with CBS four and WXI 832 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 3: in Fox fifty nine. Chap I mentioned this earlier. It 833 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 3: was one of those I think we've reached the point 834 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 3: and whoever would have guessed this at seven and one 835 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 3: where the Colts have a game and they win that 836 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 3: resoundingly and you walk away and go eah, oh hum. 837 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 3: They did what I thought they'd do, But nothing certainly 838 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 3: jumped out of me. Piman had a great catch, Taylor 839 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 3: had a great run. But I did think that they 840 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 3: were a little slow getting out of the gate at times. 841 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 3: Am I too critical? 842 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 9: Well, they score in the first three possessions. The first 843 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 9: one they mucked up with that with that throwback to 844 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 9: dueling and they settle on the for the field goal. 845 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 9: Then they had a couple of bad series in the 846 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 9: second quarter. But no, I think what your points accurate 847 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 9: is that they've gotten so efficient that when when they're 848 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 9: not efficient and think, hey, what's up? Well, you know 849 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 9: it's not supposed to be easy. It just isn't, you know, 850 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 9: the old thing. The other team's on scholarship too. This 851 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 9: is like more than that because these guys are getting 852 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 9: paid too. So, although I guess nowadays guys on scholarship 853 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 9: are getting paid as well. So, but I think I 854 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 9: go back to the Manning years and he'd go for 855 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 9: three hundred yards and free touchdowns and you think, God, 856 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 9: is that all you got was you're not feeling today, 857 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 9: but that that's really where you want to be as 858 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 9: a team as an offense to where And we always 859 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 9: kind of joke at Daniel Jones, is he never he 860 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 9: seldom talks about the good plays. He sort of indicates where, 861 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 9: you know, we left some things out there because then 862 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 9: and that's probably a good way to do it, to 863 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 9: be more critical instead of saying, hey, we were pretty good. 864 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 9: You know, they're scoring on like sixty of their possessions, 865 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 9: which is ridiculous getting points. So but that that's where 866 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 9: we are. And I've said from the start, and I'm 867 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 9: going to say it is this is sustainable because they're 868 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 9: not doing anything crazy. They're just executing. They're not turning 869 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 9: them all over. This is six games, six games without 870 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 9: a turnover. But you can say, yeah, Taylor's being special, 871 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 9: but he's still not had that game. You know, twenty 872 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 9: two carries for two hundred and thirty yards. He hits 873 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 9: you with like two shot plays a game he had 874 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty three yards and two touchdowns. He 875 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 9: carried about twelve times. That's ridiculous. So that's why I 876 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 9: like what they're doing. And another I just don't have 877 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 9: the time to look it up. But this is the 878 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 9: number one offense in yards, the number one offense in points, 879 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 9: and they've yet to have a receiver with the one 880 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 9: hundred yards. I just think that's probably this is probably 881 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 9: the first time since sometime through the first eight games 882 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 9: that's been the case. I just don't have the time 883 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 9: to look it up because it would take too long 884 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 9: for one little neat stat. But when you got everybody 885 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 9: doing something well, your expectations rise. And that's why I 886 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 9: think this part is sustainable. The offense is sustainable. 887 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 3: Chap two part question here, Okay, number one, who is 888 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 3: the Colt's best offensive. 889 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: Player Jonathan Taylor? 890 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 3: Okay, who is the Colts most valuable offensive player? 891 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. 892 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 9: I'm I'm one of those guys that that I do 893 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 9: believe it's the MVP generally is the quarterback. And I'm 894 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 9: not opposed to that Offensive Player of the year because 895 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 9: I think you can see that's this is kind of 896 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 9: like in baseball to where I don't think you can 897 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 9: have an MVP on a team, a losing team or 898 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 9: a team that doesn't get make the playoffs. You know, 899 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 9: how valuable were you? You know, that's why there needs 900 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 9: to be an outstanding You can be the best player 901 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 9: in the league on a crappy team. 902 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 3: By the way, Andre Dawson eighty seven Cubs an MVP 903 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 3: last place team, and I think that was the last 904 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 3: time that happened. 905 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 9: I just so you take it away and what they 906 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 9: were last place team. Yeah, so that's the argument. That's 907 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 9: the argument, so I and again it would really change things. 908 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 9: But take take one of those players away, Jonathan Taylor 909 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 9: or Daniel Jones, which would have the most impact moving forward, 910 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 9: correct quarterback and that's not you know, again, Tata's on 911 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 9: pace for eighteen hundred yards and I don't know, twenty 912 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 9: touchdowns and all that stuff. But I think Stiken could 913 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 9: could find a way to manufacture a run game that 914 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 9: wouldn't even remotely do what this one's doing. I'm not 915 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 9: saying that at all, but I just I just have 916 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 9: a hard time when when the quarterback has the ball 917 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 9: in his hands every play and he's playing again, Jones 918 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 9: isn't playing lights out, He's playing really really well. But 919 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 9: I just I'm that I'm one of those guys and 920 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 9: I'll go to my grave that unless there's not another player, 921 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 9: another quarterback that's doing what he's doing. I just think 922 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 9: it's a QB award because of because of a lot 923 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 9: of things. And that's why I'm totally in favor of 924 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 9: Offensive Player of the Year. I should have I thought 925 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 9: he should have got it in It was a twenty one, 926 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 9: and I think the receiver got it. Uh, Cooper cap 927 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 9: was it? That's right, Yeah, had the triple crown in receiving, 928 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 9: which is great, but I thought Taylor did. Everybody's such 929 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 9: a good discussion, but that's where we are. 930 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 3: What player Mike Chapel is our guest on the Joba 931 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 3: House peeling poor guest line. What offensive player has most 932 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 3: benefited from Daniel Jones. 933 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 9: Oh, Michael Pittman maybe, Uh, he's already matched his career 934 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 9: high and uh touchdowns. Uh yeah, probably probably him. I'd 935 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 9: say Tyler Warren, but he now Michael Pittman. I think 936 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 9: the way that that that Jones has gained a trust 937 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,760 Speaker 9: that the touchdown on by the left pylon, that's trust, 938 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 9: that's total trust that that Pittman's gonna either make the catch, 939 00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 9: which was one of. 940 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: The chap What's interesting about that is I think you 941 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 3: could also make the I don't disagree with you, by 942 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 3: the way, but I think you could also What's an 943 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 3: what's fascinating to watch is that, yes, you know, Daniel 944 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 3: Jones has to trust Pittman to before he makes that 945 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 3: throw right and puts you know, but at the same time. 946 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 3: At the same time, the receivers to an extent, I 947 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 3: know that by definition their job is to run the 948 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 3: perfect route every time. I get that right, But there 949 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 3: has to be a trust in the quarterback as well 950 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 3: that if I'm going to go out there and I'm 951 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 3: going to run this perfect route and whatever else and 952 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to run, the ball is going to be there, 953 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 3: gosh darn it. And we've seen that in this town 954 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 3: with other quarterbacks. But it feels like there is a 955 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 3: and I mean this has no disrespect to you know, 956 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 3: whether we're talking about Sam Ellinger or Anthony Richardson or 957 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 3: guys that we have seen of late. It just feels 958 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 3: like this receiving corps really he is starting to grow 959 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 3: an appreciation and respect level for Daniel Jones and that 960 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 3: he has the attention of his huddle. 961 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, And we talked about the trust in the receiver quarterback, 962 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 9: the trust that he had on that fifty yard ball 963 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 9: to Pierce, where over the last fifteen yards of the route, 964 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 9: pierces Pierce's boxing the dB out like you see in 965 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 9: a rebound, and then that he came down with the ball. 966 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 9: These guys are awful good at fifty to fifty balls 967 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 9: and then you get times where Kyler Warren is wide 968 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 9: the hell open. It's amazing how they scheme him open. 969 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 9: But that's why it's working. And it's nothing that's extraordinary 970 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 9: in what they're doing other than executing. That's why I 971 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 9: say what I like about it. It should sustain itself 972 00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 9: because either Jonathan Taylor Steiken made a good no the 973 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 9: other day when he was talking whether it is that 974 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 9: someone asked about the way Jonathan Taylor's going off in 975 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 9: the second half and he's the average on like six 976 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 9: or seven yards of carry in the second half. And 977 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 9: that's because, as it turns out, through seven games, they 978 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 9: had thrown the ball like sixty percent of the time 979 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 9: in the first half and then it flipped in the 980 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 9: second half. And whether that's how they want to remember 981 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 9: his his whole thing is throw to score a run 982 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 9: to win. And was it the first drive or second 983 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 9: drive where they they the first drive where Taylor had 984 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 9: a twelve yard run and then there were like nine. 985 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 3: Passes they never went back to him right in that right, yep. 986 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 9: Right, And you're thinking, well, until that's stupid played up Doolan. 987 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 9: That just didn't work. But it just shows you that 988 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 9: they've got a good feel for what's working, and at 989 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 9: some point they're going to go back to Taylor and 990 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 9: the Great Backs. Whether it's Taylor, I just remember Barry 991 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 9: Sanders all the time, where you hold him and you 992 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 9: hold him and hold him, then he goes for sixty 993 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 9: on you and you thought you did a pretty good 994 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 9: job until you know it's like, well we held him 995 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 9: for fifty yards on twelve carries. What about the end 996 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 9: of three carries? So that's what Taylor's giving him. He's 997 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 9: only averaging like eighteen carries a game, which is really 998 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 9: a low number. 999 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: It's normal. 1000 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,879 Speaker 9: I thought he'd be like at twenty one twenty two, 1001 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 9: but they haven't needed to. And we're going to see 1002 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 9: the schedule gets tougher. We've said this all loong, the 1003 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 9: schedule gets tougher now. I thought Berlin would be a 1004 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 9: really toughest game with Atlanta, but I can't figure Atlanta out. 1005 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Atlanta to me, chap and obviously they got Pittsburgh 1006 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 3: between now and then, right. We saw the Steelers last 1007 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 3: night and the Steelers are very susceptible. But Atlanta to me, 1008 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 3: and I bring that up because you're right, I mean 1009 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 3: going over to Germany and playing Atlanta. The Falcons are 1010 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 3: intriguing because I think defensively they're pretty sound. 1011 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 5: Now. 1012 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like I'm sitting here watching quarter 1013 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 3: by quarter of Falcon football. But if there's an area 1014 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 3: for Atlanta that can present a little bit of an 1015 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 3: eyebrow raise, it would be their defense from what I've seen. 1016 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 3: But maybe I'm wrong there right. 1017 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 9: Right, Well, and then again you get I'm not I'm 1018 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 9: not that sold on Pittsburgh. I'm just not. But but 1019 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 9: these guys haven't won in Pittsburgh since Peyton and dominant Croudes. 1020 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: I think it was in. 1021 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 9: Whatever seven or eight or whatever it was. But then 1022 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,959 Speaker 9: you then after the bye you go to Kansas City. 1023 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 9: That's gonna tell you a time. And then you're home 1024 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 9: with I think it's home with h with Houston, so 1025 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 9: it gets tougher. You got Seattle, you got you got 1026 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 9: the Niners, who I'm not sure how good they are. 1027 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 9: So that's why this this was so critical to get out. 1028 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 9: I thought they'd go six and two. I'm not gonna 1029 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 9: put banging my horn on that, but seven and one, Uh, 1030 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 9: that's just that's really sets you up. If they've almost 1031 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 9: got the over in Vegas. I think it was eight 1032 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 9: and a half. Uh So it's really kind of fun 1033 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 9: to see and the expectations will grow, which is a 1034 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 9: good thing. The past three or four years where they've 1035 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 9: just not gotten things down in the fan base is po. 1036 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 9: That's a good thing. Your fan base should demand more 1037 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 9: and demand playoffs and all this stuff, and when you 1038 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 9: don't get there, they should be mad at you. 1039 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 3: I think the fan base should be upset. Yesterday the 1040 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 3: roof was closed your thoughts. 1041 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, but this is the fan base and there it 1042 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 9: was one of it was one of those borderline games 1043 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 9: where it was a little chili in the don't. 1044 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 3: Like chili, a little chili it was. 1045 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 5: It was, Hey, was. 1046 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 9: Chilling the press s bot chilling the press spot. 1047 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 3: You know that Java House edit? You know they got 1048 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 3: hot Coco on the Java House peeling forse right, you 1049 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 3: can get that twenty five percent off jap. When you 1050 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 3: look at Daniel Jones and I was thinking about this 1051 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 3: yesterday and maybe the way I word this is going 1052 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 3: to come off convoluted when when Shane Stikeen and the 1053 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 3: way that this symbiotic relationship he's got going with Daniel 1054 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 3: Jones and I keep going back to it and wondering this, 1055 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 3: do you believe that Daniel Jones And it's a moot 1056 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 3: point now because he's playing at a high level, But 1057 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 3: if you go back now and you try to put 1058 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 3: the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle together retroactively and see 1059 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 3: how it all makes sense. Do you think that Shane 1060 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 3: Stiken selected Daniel Jones as his starter because he felt 1061 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 3: that eventually that was going to lead to the to 1062 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 3: the trust from most teammates, from a higher number of teammates, 1063 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 3: or simply because it's who Shane Steike and trusted. 1064 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 9: It's who Shane Styke and trusted. And then because I 1065 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,919 Speaker 9: really believe if you'd taken a poll in training camp 1066 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 9: or whatever, this team was still very much behind Richardson. 1067 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 9: I really believe that the fan base was I can 1068 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 9: s remember like the first practice where Jones takes the 1069 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 9: first snaps and then they bring Jones or they bring 1070 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 9: rich it's an end for that the next series and 1071 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 9: the fans go crazy and you're thinking, oh, really, so 1072 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 9: I this this is a perfect match two obsessive people 1073 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 9: at their positions, at their jobs, which which is what 1074 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 9: you want? I mean, Peyton Manning was totally totally obsessed 1075 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 9: with the job and with Tom and Tom Moore and 1076 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 9: Howard and all those guys are that's what it takes. 1077 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 9: And I would like to know to give Shane Stakeen 1078 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 9: some truth for him and find out when he knew 1079 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 9: that Daniel Jones was the guy. And I'm not buying 1080 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 9: in the least it was it was late August. I 1081 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 9: don't believe that at all. I think it was much 1082 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 9: much earlier to where he saw what Jones had in him. 1083 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 9: And I think he really believed that that Jones was 1084 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 9: done dirty by the Giants organization with how they didn't 1085 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 9: do things around him the right way. I would love 1086 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 9: to know when stych and decided, boy, this guy, we 1087 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 9: can do things. Go back and look at go back 1088 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 9: and look at what Styken did with Gardner Minshew. They 1089 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 9: came within like one pass of winning the AFC South 1090 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 9: And has has Minshew done anything since then? 1091 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 3: No. 1092 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 9: So I think that he got the absolute most out 1093 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 9: of Minshew and got him like fifteen million dollars from 1094 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 9: the Raiders, which good, good for Minshew. But I just 1095 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 9: think that this was a perfect match and some at 1096 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 9: some point early in the process, whatever it was, April 1097 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 9: Maje you whatever. I think Shane really knew that that 1098 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 9: Jones was the guy now playing at this level. I 1099 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 9: don't know. Again, I don't think he's playing off the charts. 1100 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 9: He's but he's playing darn good. 1101 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: You know, the. 1102 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 9: Seven hundred yard ratings and the first eight games and 1103 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 9: all that stuff. I think was he got three interceptions? 1104 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 1105 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 9: I think that that that speaks volumes to how when. 1106 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean right, they take care of the football, right, 1107 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 3: I mean that that's that is such a huge part 1108 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 3: of it, chap Right. 1109 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 9: And at the end of the season, if you look 1110 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,959 Speaker 9: at if you look at the takeaway giveaway, the top 1111 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 9: five teams are almost always playoffs maybe division winners, and 1112 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 9: the bottom five teams are awful. So it is the 1113 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 9: one the most significant, you know, stat in wins and 1114 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 9: losses as far as getting to the bottom line. But 1115 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 9: six games, I think the most they've had here maybe 1116 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 9: in the in the air is like seven, uh in 1117 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 9: a season because things, because things happen. You get tip balls, 1118 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 9: you get fumbles, you get you get a guy dropping 1119 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 9: the ball at the at the goal line. So it's 1120 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 9: pretty impressive. 1121 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 3: Mike Chapel is my guest from CBS Forte on Fox 1122 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 3: fifty nine. He is the Dean of writers when it 1123 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 3: comes to covering the Colts. He's on the Java House 1124 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 3: peeling poor guest line Chap Whin. When you assess the 1125 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 3: Colts right now, and we've all talked about it, if 1126 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 3: they're going to get over the hump, if they're going 1127 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 3: to push in, one would assume that that means they're 1128 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 3: going to make a trade before the deadline for defensive help, 1129 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 3: whether that be pass rush or defensive backfield six and 1130 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 3: one half dozen in the other Perhaps question I have 1131 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 3: for you is this fine, and I think we've all 1132 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 3: accepted the fact that Chris Ballard is we would assume 1133 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 3: going to make some sort of a move. What assets 1134 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 3: do they have to give up? What goes on its 1135 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 3: way out to get the Colts help back. 1136 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 9: In just draft picks. I don't see them having give 1137 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 9: a player you normally see. 1138 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 3: He loves and covets, he loves draft capital, though we 1139 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 3: have part with it. 1140 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I understand it. I understand it. But when you're 1141 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 9: sitting here at seven and one and things I've really got, 1142 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 9: I don't believe in my heart that Chris Dowd thought 1143 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 9: they'd be seven and one right now. He thought they'd 1144 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 9: be good. He really did, But I would question if 1145 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 9: Chris said, yeah, Mike, I thought we'd go seven and one, 1146 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 9: I say, I'm not sure. 1147 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:07,479 Speaker 1: Sure. 1148 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 9: So I think it does alter your approach to go 1149 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 9: back and look at how he's handled this season. He's 1150 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 9: never given out sixty million dollar contracts to a safety 1151 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 9: in a corner and given Daniel Jones fourteen million because 1152 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 9: they knew that they had holes to fill and what 1153 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 9: they'd done in the past largely hadn't been enough, although 1154 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 9: the quarterback things what held him back. But I just 1155 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 9: think this is this will be a situation where everyone 1156 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 9: in that building will agree that we need I'd trade 1157 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 9: for two points. I'd trade for a corner and an 1158 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 9: edge rusher. If I can only get one, I'd take 1159 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 9: a corner. And I'm always an edge rush guy because 1160 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 9: I think an ed rush guy can do so much. 1161 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 9: But they are so down the depth chart in corner. 1162 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 9: I know they're going to get Mooney Ward back in 1163 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 9: a couple of weeks, and I know they're going to 1164 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 9: get Jaylen Jones back, perhaps this week, but I just 1165 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 9: think they need help a corner, and I just I 1166 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 9: just don't think they'll need to give a player. It'll 1167 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 9: be a fifth or sixth round pick or whatever, and 1168 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 9: and I'm okay with that. It's a lesser level of 1169 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 9: giving up a what was it, the thirteenth pick to 1170 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 9: get the Forest Buckner right back in Corny twenty. I'll 1171 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 9: do that every day if I can get a player 1172 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 9: that's been what Buck's been, and if I can get somebody, 1173 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 9: maybe it's somebody that's hit on his rookie. 1174 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 3: Not to cut you off there, Buckner. I want to 1175 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 3: add onto this though. It's not even just that the 1176 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 3: Forest Buckner is a great player, and he has been 1177 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 3: a great player, but the Forest Buckner's also and you 1178 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 3: and I aren't around it to that level. But by 1179 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 3: all account, this guy is exactly from a locker room 1180 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 3: and film room and just over and huddle presence. He 1181 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 3: has been every thing you would want. 1182 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 9: When you hear guy, when you hear him, say, uh, 1183 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 9: he's a horseshoe guy. You know they overuse it, but 1184 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 9: you know, I think of three or four players, and 1185 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 9: he's one. He and Quenton people like that. Those are 1186 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 9: the guys that are foundational players. They are and it's 1187 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 9: the entire package. It's leadership, it's it's how they interact 1188 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 9: with the community. Uh but the locker room and then 1189 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 9: they're during good players. I still am. I wonder how 1190 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 9: the fourth Buckler would be viewed nationally if he had 1191 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 9: been with Kansas City or Baltimore or Buffalo and been 1192 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 9: a playoff guy throughout his career instead of, you know, 1193 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 9: a super duper player on a team that's not quite 1194 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 9: good enough. So I I credit him as much as 1195 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 9: possible for being loyal to Indianapolis, and maybe his family 1196 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 9: just loves it. I don't know, he was gonna get 1197 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 9: paid wherever he went, so I just I really enjoy 1198 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 9: seeing him get success and teens trying to block him 1199 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 9: and he just runs through him and smothers a quarterback. 1200 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 9: So I think he I probably enjoyed this as much 1201 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 9: for him and Quinton as anybody because I know what 1202 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 9: they mean to the franchise and I know what they 1203 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,439 Speaker 9: put into it, and good for them, Mike. 1204 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 2: The Cults have had a long lineage of stellar running backs, 1205 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 2: you know, with Eric Diurkerson, Marshall Falk and now with 1206 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, is Taylor on pace and Andrew James for 1207 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 2: that matter, is Taylor on pace to become the best 1208 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 2: running back in franchise history with the way he's been 1209 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 2: performing in his sixty year. 1210 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1211 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 9: Probably the only going to keep him from setting the 1212 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 9: franchise rushing record is is enough years? Is he better 1213 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 9: an Edgar? And gosh, they're different players. It's hard to put. 1214 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 9: I wouldn't put Dickerson and Balka there because they had 1215 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 9: so much of their success elsewhere. 1216 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 1: But he and Edge. 1217 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 9: What's really interesting is he's one rushing touchdown away from 1218 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 9: Edrin's career record. I think he Edus got sixty four 1219 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 9: and he's got in JT's got sixty three. Edge played 1220 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 9: quite a bit more games than JT did, the best 1221 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 9: running back ever. That's good. This would be a really 1222 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 9: good discussion. Michael Pittman said, Yeah, he's done a projector 1223 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 9: or a trajectory for the Hall of Fame. And I 1224 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,639 Speaker 9: didn't I didn't say, you know, hold on a minute, 1225 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 9: because you've got to do it. Five six seven years 1226 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 9: of this a fifteen hundred Edgron had four seasons of 1227 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 9: fifteen hundred yards and Taylor will have had, you know, 1228 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 9: this keeps going two extraordinary season. It takes more than 1229 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 9: that to get into Hall of Fame. But that does 1230 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 9: shouldn't diminish at all what he's doing so best. Ever, 1231 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 9: that will be an interesting quest ruction in a couple 1232 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 9: of years if Taylor is still here, because do you 1233 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 9: re sign him when his contracts up? I don't know. 1234 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 9: It'll be tough. 1235 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 3: It'll be tough, yeah, the you know, Taylor has more 1236 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 3: diversified himself though to me, right in terms of running 1237 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 3: the football, you know, he's up there the best of 1238 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 3: anybody that's coming along through here. Probably. But we've talked 1239 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 3: about this a lot, but you know, Edrin James was 1240 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 3: just such a good blitz blocker. And you know, Taylor's 1241 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 3: done a better job out of the backfield with receiving 1242 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 3: the ball obviously, right, he has really diversified his skill set. 1243 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 3: But Edrin James seemingly just had all that right out 1244 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 3: of the womb. It was like boom go. 1245 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 9: You know, he said at Miami he was told that 1246 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 9: if you can't pass protect, you can't play. And I 1247 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:53,719 Speaker 9: still think Edrin is the best pass protector I've seen 1248 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 9: here as a running back. Faulk was close, but Edrin 1249 01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 9: he just he just stuck his face into some guys 1250 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 9: do it because they have to. He did it because 1251 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 9: he I mean, he was good at it and he 1252 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 9: realized that was part of his job. He wasn't quite 1253 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 9: the receiver that Taylor is because he was not here 1254 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 9: enough in the offseason to where they worked on it 1255 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 9: that much. But boy Edge Edge was so fun to 1256 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 9: watch and three hundred and seventy three hundred eighty carries. 1257 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 9: He personified the one back offense because he was the 1258 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:32,839 Speaker 9: one back. But Taylor, you know, it's funny because yesterday 1259 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 9: was the eighty yar touchdown. That's not as long as run. 1260 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 9: He had an eighty three yarder in Houston in twenty 1261 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 9: twenty one, and a was that he didn't score on. 1262 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 9: So it's it's just amazing what Taylor can do. And 1263 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 9: he's only after eight games. So I hope he, you know, 1264 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 9: knock on what. I hope he stays healthy and I'd 1265 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 9: like to see if he can do what he did 1266 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty one. 1267 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 3: Jab, do we see a trade? If you had to guess, 1268 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 3: are we going to see a trade? 1269 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: Yes? 1270 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 9: In my mind, the question is is it one or two? 1271 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 9: I just think and maybe it's I don't know, I 1272 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 9: don't know which one is easier. It's going to be 1273 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 9: easier to get. You know, it's got to be a 1274 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 9: team that's that's not in the playoffs. Hunt Now, Cincinnati, 1275 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,679 Speaker 9: they've got a couple of players I would assume Hendrickson. 1276 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 9: I've never considered him a possibility just because of his contract, 1277 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 9: But Miami's got a couple of pass rushers. Jalen Phillips 1278 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 9: I think is the one he might work because he's 1279 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 9: got an okay contract, a couple of Cincinnati he's got 1280 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 9: a couple of guys i'd be interested in, and they're 1281 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 9: not going anywhere. They they keep waiting for Joe Burrow 1282 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,640 Speaker 9: to come back, and it's gonna be too late by then. 1283 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 9: So I think there'll be one, maybe two trades before 1284 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 9: what the is it next Tuesday or next Wednesday, whatever 1285 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:56,520 Speaker 9: it is the fourth. 1286 01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,080 Speaker 3: It's a week from tomorrow, Yeah, week from tomorrow. 1287 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: Right right. 1288 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 9: It just there's too many reasons to not do it, 1289 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 9: and with trades, it doesn't it doesn't normally take a 1290 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,080 Speaker 9: monster draft pick. It takes a third day draft pick. 1291 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 9: So in this situation, certainly you needed to do it. 1292 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 9: I think they will do it. 1293 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 3: All right, We'll see what happens. Chap I know you 1294 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,839 Speaker 3: guys will be covered all of it. Wxin and CBS 1295 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 3: four appreciate the time as always, you guys be well, 1296 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 3: all right, Mike Chapel joining us on the Java House 1297 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 3: Peel and poor guest line. We come back Matt Berdan 1298 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 3: by the way, about thirty minutes from now. But something 1299 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 3: that happened last night in Pittsburgh that there's more and 1300 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,640 Speaker 3: more chatter about, and it includes here in Indianapolis, and 1301 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,719 Speaker 3: I've got my own thoughts on who's to blame next. 1302 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 3: What I was reading the texts that come into the show. 1303 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 3: Thank you to those that text it, even if you 1304 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 3: want to send a text that you like. There was 1305 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 3: one person that was texting like every day. I actually 1306 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 3: kind of funny. That was like I can't believe he's 1307 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,839 Speaker 3: he still has a job. 1308 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: And. 1309 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 3: So I I'd like message back and was like, hey, 1310 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 3: I get it, you know whatever, And I can't believe 1311 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 3: you'd respond to me. Well yeah, I mean that's the 1312 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 3: whole idea of interaction here, right, do. 1313 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 2: You offer to uh watch him work for a day 1314 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 2: and criticize him for today. 1315 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 3: Listen, it comes with the territory. I totally understand it. 1316 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 3: We have a lot of with this job, you know, Eddie, 1317 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 3: it's funny you mentioned that though, honestly, because I've thought 1318 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 3: about this. Our job is to talk about sports, to 1319 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 3: entertain and educate, educating, entertain Yeah, and to opine about sports. 1320 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 3: And oftentimes in doing that huh you like that word, 1321 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 3: don't you api do? But to to offer perspective on 1322 01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 3: sports oftentimes means critiquing the performance either of players or 1323 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 3: coaches or general managers, et cetera. And while yes, I 1324 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 3: would love to come on here every day and just 1325 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,000 Speaker 3: be like a cheerleader for it all, the reality is 1326 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 3: that people you go into a sports bar and people 1327 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 3: are sitting there talking about sports, which is what I 1328 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 3: like to think of as this show is just men 1329 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 3: women sitting around talking sports, right, And so in that capacity, 1330 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 3: it is only fair if if for three hours a day, 1331 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 3: I sit here and I talk about a decision made 1332 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 3: by Chris Ballard that I disagree with, or a coaching 1333 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 3: strategy of Rick Carlisle that I thought was the wrong one, 1334 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 3: or you know, Purdue football made this mistake with this 1335 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 3: player or whatever it may be. Okay, all of that, 1336 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 3: then it is only fair that the same could be 1337 01:14:54,280 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 3: thrown back at me. It would be completely hypocritical for 1338 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 3: me to sit here and spend three hours being a 1339 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 3: critique of other people's performance and then getting overly sensitive 1340 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 3: to their critique of mine. So I mean, I'm there 1341 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 3: for it now. Oftentimes more often than not, if I 1342 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 3: run into somebody. Yesterday, I was at the grocery store 1343 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 3: and the woman next to me was wearing a Bengals 1344 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 3: sweatshirt and I said, man, rough day to be a 1345 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 3: Bengals fan, and she said, oh, I know, you know 1346 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 3: we are at the game today. And we talked for 1347 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 3: just a few minutes, and then a couple of miles later, 1348 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 3: she says, by the way, am I getting hear you 1349 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 3: talking about that on the radio tomorrow? And I said, well, 1350 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 3: I whether I'll be talking about it, whether or not 1351 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 3: you hear it is I guess up to you. And 1352 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 3: she laughed and said, well I recognized your voice, which 1353 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 3: was both flattering and also it always surprises me. But 1354 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 3: I said to. 1355 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,799 Speaker 2: Her, way she found a listener? Do we have a number? 1356 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,559 Speaker 3: Told me mostly used to listen when I was in 1357 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 3: the morning show, and now her husband avid listener in. 1358 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 1: The day show. 1359 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't think we got to thirty four 1360 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,599 Speaker 3: and a half on that but Ariel was her name. 1361 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,479 Speaker 3: Very nice woman and anyway, I said to her what 1362 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 3: I always say to people, tell me what you don't 1363 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 3: like about the show. You know what I mean, Like, 1364 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 3: I want to know what areas you think that we 1365 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:20,719 Speaker 3: could do like better in that area? You say more, Eddie. 1366 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 3: Everyone says that, including Nick, who just said, mister Garrison 1367 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 3: is really the perfect sidekick for you, Jake, I thought 1368 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 3: he met Greg. So here's the thing. As I was 1369 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 3: watching the Steelers game yesterday and someone pointed this out 1370 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 3: that when they were watching the game, I'll read it 1371 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 3: to you right here on the text line, Jake, I've 1372 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,439 Speaker 3: been a season ticket holder since the seventies. I assume 1373 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 3: this is someone from Pittsburgh because it's a Pittsburgh number. 1374 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,679 Speaker 3: We've watched a steady decline in the fans at home games, 1375 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 3: and all time low last night was that someone had 1376 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 3: placed a Green Bay Packers sign over the Steeler Country 1377 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 3: sign that is behind the goalposts. I don't blame the 1378 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 3: Green Bay Packer fan, but to allow that to stay 1379 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,519 Speaker 3: up through the entire game just tells you about the 1380 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 3: fans in Pittsburgh. Here is the reality. This is an 1381 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 3: increased thing everywhere. I'll go back to when the Colts 1382 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,360 Speaker 3: hosted their very first playoff game, the very first time 1383 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts hosted a playoff game, not the Colts, 1384 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 3: but the Indianapolis Colts, the first ever NFL playoff game 1385 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 3: in the city of Indianapolis. Now, the first time the 1386 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 3: Colts went to the playoffs was eighty seven they went 1387 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 3: to Cleveland, but the first time they hosted was in 1388 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 3: two thousand. They played the Tennessee Titans, the famous game 1389 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 3: where Eddie George ran away and looked up at the 1390 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 3: video board the JumboTron and later admitted that he looked 1391 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 3: up while he was running to see where the defense 1392 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:59,560 Speaker 3: was in comparison to him behind him. That game, afterwards 1393 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,840 Speaker 3: is when bil Opullion made a public point of his 1394 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 3: displeasure of the number of Titans fans that were in 1395 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 3: the building. And at the time, I thought to myself, 1396 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,600 Speaker 3: that's true, but you drafted Peyton Manning. And when you 1397 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 3: drafted Peyton Manning, you set up Colts ticket offices in Knoxville, Nashville, 1398 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 3: and Chattanooga, Tennessee. In Tennessee, people can buy Colts tickets. 1399 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 3: So is it possible that somebody who had bought Colts 1400 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 3: tickets to watch Peyton Manning. Then the Titans get into 1401 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,839 Speaker 3: the playoffs and they're like, you know what, my neighbor's 1402 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 3: a huge Titans fan. He's going to give me five 1403 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 3: hundred bucks with these tickets. Boom, I'll watch on TV. 1404 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 3: I understand the frustration people have of visiting teams coming 1405 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 3: into a stadium. I totally get it. A year ago, 1406 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 3: I thought it was very bizarre that they had all 1407 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 3: the security at the Lucas Oil Stadium wearing orange shirts 1408 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,839 Speaker 3: and blue pants when the Bears were in town, for example. 1409 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 3: Very odd to me. But there are certain fan bases 1410 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,120 Speaker 3: that travel, not even that they travel, but they they 1411 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,200 Speaker 3: are national brands that have fans in an area that 1412 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 3: don't normally get to go see it. There are fans 1413 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 3: of the Dallas Cowboys that probably have never been to 1414 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,679 Speaker 3: Dallas in their life. There are fans of the Green 1415 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 3: Bay Packers because of the national branding of it, that 1416 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,640 Speaker 3: have never been to Wisconsin. And there are fans of 1417 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers the same. But for all of these franchises. Now, 1418 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,959 Speaker 3: if you want right now to go to the Steelers 1419 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 3: game in Pittsburgh coming up Sunday to watch the Colts. 1420 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,479 Speaker 3: So the Colts game in Pittsburgh, if you want to 1421 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,639 Speaker 3: go to that game, and that's a one o'clock start, 1422 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 3: is that right, Eddie on Sunday? Yes, if you want 1423 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,599 Speaker 3: to go to that game, you can go right now 1424 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,960 Speaker 3: to Steelers dot com and pick your seat anywhere in 1425 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 3: the place. And there are tickets available on the Steelers' website. 1426 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 3: And then on the website when you click on buy 1427 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 3: tickets and you see all the tickets available and you 1428 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 3: click on it, it says this is an official ticket Master 1429 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:58,559 Speaker 3: resale option. The day and the second and I get it. 1430 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 3: But the the day that NFL franchises linked in business partnership, 1431 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,640 Speaker 3: and I love Ticketmaster and stub hubbing all this. I 1432 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,639 Speaker 3: love it. I love the option. I'm somebody that loves 1433 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 3: going to games, and I love the security. I went 1434 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 3: to a concert in England and had to use the 1435 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 3: British version, the British version of stub Hub or one 1436 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 3: of them, and it was great and bought the tickets 1437 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 3: Boom sent to my phone, good to go. Love it. 1438 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 3: I love the option. I'm not here to put poo 1439 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 3: it at all. But the second that these teams officially 1440 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 3: from a business standpoint, partnered with them, then you can't 1441 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 3: come crying to me about people that are coming in 1442 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,480 Speaker 3: the building that are not your regular season ticket holders. 1443 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 3: I bought on your website. I went right to Steelers 1444 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 3: dot com and bought tickets as a Colts fan. And 1445 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,599 Speaker 3: guess what, I bought them through a third party app 1446 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 3: that you partnered with and that you get are getting 1447 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 3: part of the kickbacks for. 1448 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 2: There you go, you know, Jake, Oftentimes I hear about 1449 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 2: this with you know, Pacer fans, and you know, they 1450 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 2: have a select season ticket package they do like ten 1451 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,799 Speaker 2: games or whatever, half a season, full season or whatnot, 1452 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,759 Speaker 2: and they'll sell like the tickets to those big games 1453 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 2: like the Lakers, the Warriors, etc. The big teams that 1454 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 2: garner a lot of interest because it helps pay back 1455 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,000 Speaker 2: the cost of the season ticket price itself. And with 1456 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,839 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers making his return, or with Aaron Rodgers facing 1457 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 2: his former team for the first time since he departed 1458 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 2: with Green Bay, I'm sure the ticket price was through 1459 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 2: the roof. And so that Steelers fan of it was 1460 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 2: a season ticket holder, knew that there was probably a 1461 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 2: Packers fan out there that would be willing to pay, 1462 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,599 Speaker 2: you know whatever, the two hundred three hundred four hundred 1463 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 2: dollars for those said tickets. The next thing, you know, boom, 1464 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 2: there you go. You've got, you know, a quarter to 1465 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 2: a half of your season ticket pay for the season 1466 01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 2: paid off. You just made that money back a little bit. 1467 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 3: Listen, I Clemson. I bought Clemson season tickets. I can't 1468 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 3: go to every Clemson game, it's eight hours away. I 1469 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 3: bought Clemson season tickets, and I put my tickets for 1470 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 3: Florida State and Louisville up for sale one year, and 1471 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,839 Speaker 3: it paid for my entire year, paid for my travel, 1472 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 3: my hotel, my my season tickets, everything for the year. 1473 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 3: I don't know whether the person's part of the problem. 1474 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 3: I am absolutely part of the problem. Okay, there was 1475 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 3: something yesterday that happened in the game on the broadcast 1476 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,640 Speaker 3: that I'm not the only one that noticed it. I 1477 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,720 Speaker 3: heard it right away, but it made sense to me. 1478 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,120 Speaker 3: It made sense to me why a beloved figure was 1479 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 3: watching the Colts. I'll explain next. What So a point 1480 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 3: that was made and I noticed this too. I immediately 1481 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 3: noticed it, and I can't even recall what it was. 1482 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 3: During the Colts game that they were discussing, Oh, I 1483 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 3: know what it was in talking about young quarterbacks and 1484 01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 3: cam Ward. You know, I think everybody knows that the 1485 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 3: rookie record for interceptions in a season is that of 1486 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning. And during the broadcast yesterday, Charles Davis brought 1487 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 3: that up about Manning and then no sooner did he 1488 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,960 Speaker 3: bring it up, but he said, Peyton Manning just texted 1489 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 3: me and said, did you really have to mention that statistic? 1490 01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,639 Speaker 3: You could have overlooked that part, you know. And Manning's 1491 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:20,040 Speaker 3: always been pretty self deprecating about that aspect of his resume. 1492 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:32,240 Speaker 3: But it is interesting that that statement and Denver was 1493 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 3: playing at the same time, and that statement showed that 1494 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:44,440 Speaker 3: Manning was watching the Colts and I have made reference. 1495 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 3: I talked pretty often during the NBA Finals about one 1496 01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,760 Speaker 3: of the things that I loved about the Pacers run 1497 01:23:53,760 --> 01:24:00,160 Speaker 3: was that it cemented the relationship between Reggie Miller in 1498 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 3: the city of Indianapolis. And when I say that, people 1499 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 3: are like, Jake, what are you talking about, right, There's 1500 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,080 Speaker 3: always been a great relationship with Reggie Miller Indianapolis. True 1501 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 3: from Indianapolis's standpoint, and I'm not saying Reggie Miller hasn't 1502 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 3: always loved Indianapolis, but literally, as soon as Reggie Miller's 1503 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 3: playing career was over with, he moved back to southern California. 1504 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't blame him in any way, shape or form 1505 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:25,719 Speaker 3: on that, right, but he came back really for work 1506 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:33,880 Speaker 3: purposes and then an occasional franchise, marquee event or honorary 1507 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 3: thing like when David Benner passed. You know, he obviously 1508 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,040 Speaker 3: came back to honor him. I mean, he's been a 1509 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,680 Speaker 3: good person, but it just Reggie Miller seemed when he 1510 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 3: left here to have a neutrality about him when it 1511 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 3: came to basketball. And then during the NBA Finals, he's 1512 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,280 Speaker 3: right there with his son wearing a jersey leading the cheers, 1513 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 3: and he was a fan. He was a fan as 1514 01:24:55,200 --> 01:25:00,840 Speaker 3: opposed to a broadcaster, and with Peyton Manning. Manning had 1515 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 3: such a love for Indianapolis, and Manning had such a 1516 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,599 Speaker 3: for Peyton Manning. I think it was so important because 1517 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 3: he grew up in New Orleans where his dad had 1518 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,120 Speaker 3: played for the Saints, and yes his dad played for 1519 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 3: the Oilers, but Peyton Manning it was so important to see. 1520 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,920 Speaker 3: I think the relationship that his father had with New 1521 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 3: Orleans that when Peyton Manning was drafted by the Colts, 1522 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 3: it was in the eyes of Peyton Manning, Okay, they 1523 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 3: are getting more than a quarterback here. I now need 1524 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,720 Speaker 3: to be a pillar of this community. And he, don't 1525 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 3: get me wrong, he's done so. I mean, obviously the 1526 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 3: children's hospital and other such things. But in Manning's eyes, 1527 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:56,400 Speaker 3: it was the one reciprocation for everything that he did 1528 01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:01,080 Speaker 3: for the franchise, turning his owner in to a billionaire, 1529 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,799 Speaker 3: building a seven hundred and eighty million dollars stadium, winning 1530 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. The one thing above and beyond the 1531 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 3: money and everything else that Peyton Manning, in the back 1532 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,680 Speaker 3: of his mind I think, always wanted in return and 1533 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,920 Speaker 3: hoped for in return, was that he would retire, spend 1534 01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,479 Speaker 3: his entire career in and then become a staple part 1535 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 3: of the community of Indianapolis, living there for the rest 1536 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 3: of time, just like his mother and father do in 1537 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:38,280 Speaker 3: New Orleans. And when Peyton Manning was released, even though 1538 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,640 Speaker 3: I realized, as Jim Mersey said, they were up on 1539 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 3: an airplane talking it out and figuring it out and 1540 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,639 Speaker 3: whatever else, but they just couldn't come to any other 1541 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,599 Speaker 3: solution with Andrew Luck waiting in the wings. I think 1542 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 3: that hurt Manning so bad that when he went to Denver, 1543 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,120 Speaker 3: finished his career as at Bronco, won a Super Bowl, 1544 01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,080 Speaker 3: and then it was like, Okay, that's where he he 1545 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,479 Speaker 3: lives now, that's where his kids go to school, that's 1546 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 3: where he's seen on the sidelines at Nuggets games, and 1547 01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 3: he is like mister Denver, but his son now is 1548 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 3: going to a private school in Chattanooga. Yes, he still 1549 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,799 Speaker 3: has residence in Denver, but if you really pay close attention, 1550 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,920 Speaker 3: Manning himself is starting to come around a little bit. 1551 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,080 Speaker 3: And I don't mean that in a bad way. I'm 1552 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,840 Speaker 3: not saying that like he needed to do that. But 1553 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 3: he was on Sunday night on a national broadcast with 1554 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,880 Speaker 3: I believe it is Teddy Bruski, right, he was on 1555 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 3: Sunday NFL Countdown and it was with Teddy Bruski, right, 1556 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 3: it was Teddy Bruskey much other guys. But he was 1557 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 3: saying to Teddy Bruski, like, look, you're late to the 1558 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 3: party here on Indianapolis. Like I know you Patriots guys 1559 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 3: are the last ones come in, but like you got 1560 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,760 Speaker 3: to get in on the Colts like the Colts are, 1561 01:27:54,840 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 3: and he was talking up the Colts and this this recapture, 1562 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,439 Speaker 3: this revitalization of the Colts franchise. They're doing it with 1563 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,800 Speaker 3: a quarterback that has ties to Peyton Manning. They're doing 1564 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,679 Speaker 3: it with a quarterback who was coached by a coach 1565 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 3: that was very special to Peyton Manning. And they're doing 1566 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,600 Speaker 3: it with a quarterback that was not the immediate replacement 1567 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 3: of or the guy that was the reason for the 1568 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 3: departure of Peyton Manning. It is a clean separation. It 1569 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 3: is a different era, and Manning's all in and I 1570 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 3: think that's what you're seeing when he sent that text. Yes, 1571 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,559 Speaker 3: he was watching the Colts game, because I do think 1572 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,599 Speaker 3: that his affinity, his love, his part of being part 1573 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 3: of this organization is I'm not saying it was ever 1574 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 3: totally compromised, but he's finally now more open with it. 1575 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 3: Matt Verdram Next, what two o'clock hour in Indianapolis for 1576 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,400 Speaker 3: that matter, it's the two o'clock hour everywhere in the 1577 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,960 Speaker 3: Eastern time zone. My name is Jake Querry Eddie Garrison. 1578 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,960 Speaker 3: The other voice you hear on this program. We call 1579 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 3: it Querying Company. On ninety three to five and one 1580 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 3: zero seven to five. The fan perhaps our most popular guests. 1581 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:12,200 Speaker 3: Certainly he is among the most energetic and knowledgeable. He 1582 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 3: is with Sports Illustrated. He's a fan of Indianapolis. He 1583 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,920 Speaker 3: is an East Coast guy that has a keen eye 1584 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 3: about the NFL. Matt Verderam joining us from SI on 1585 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 3: the Java House Peel and poor guest line, Matt, I'm 1586 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 3: curious of this because you offer a national perspective. Are 1587 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts the best team in the NFL? 1588 01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:34,479 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1589 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,000 Speaker 5: Right now they are? Yeah. 1590 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,800 Speaker 8: I mean, look, you can the Rams beat him and 1591 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,679 Speaker 8: the Rams if they can kick a field goal would 1592 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,599 Speaker 8: be seven and zero. But they can't stack field goals 1593 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 8: that they're five and two. Ill say, look bad. And 1594 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,360 Speaker 8: I Mitchell like understands the rules of football. Against the Rams, 1595 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,960 Speaker 8: they're they're un the beat of doo. Right, So, I 1596 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 8: think right now the big national argument against the Colts 1597 01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 8: is two prongs. One of people don't believe in Daniel Johnson. Okay, 1598 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 8: they're fine, always played terrific this year. The other argument age, 1599 01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,559 Speaker 8: well they played nobody. Well, they played the Broncos, they won, 1600 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,040 Speaker 8: and they went to the Los Angeles to everybody loves 1601 01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 8: the Chargers, and they beat the daylights out of the Chargers. 1602 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,439 Speaker 8: And I would argue, look, yeah, they've otherwise beaten bad teams, 1603 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 8: but other than the Cardinals. 1604 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,040 Speaker 5: Game, they killed those days. 1605 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,440 Speaker 8: Those games have been over halfway through the second quarter halftime. 1606 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 5: Like that's that's the mark of a really good football 1607 01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,680 Speaker 5: to me. Look the Colts, especially. 1608 01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:34,759 Speaker 8: Offensively, Yeah, any any hype is justified when you're winning 1609 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,760 Speaker 8: the way they are winning these games. 1610 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 3: You know, Matt, what I've said is this, and so 1611 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,800 Speaker 3: I guess I'll turn it into a question for you. 1612 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,799 Speaker 3: I hear a lot of people say to your point, 1613 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,679 Speaker 3: and I get it. The Colts haven't beaten anybody. Okay, fine, 1614 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,800 Speaker 3: and I disagree with you on that because Charger, you 1615 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,599 Speaker 3: know what you just spelled out. But in that event, 1616 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 3: if some mood were to say about anybody in the 1617 01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 3: NFL right now, well I haven't beaten anybody. Who is somebody? 1618 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 3: Like in this year's in all who is somebody? 1619 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:02,439 Speaker 9: Right? 1620 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 8: I mean it's a short list, right, I mean we're 1621 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,040 Speaker 8: probably it's an extremely weird year in the NFL right now, 1622 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 8: Like I'm on my way to Arrows. Day has covered 1623 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 8: them on that football game. I'm driving through Iowa, which 1624 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:14,879 Speaker 8: by the way, should be a federal crime. 1625 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,240 Speaker 5: Having to drive away through Iowa. 1626 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:20,840 Speaker 8: But like, realistically, I'm going to watch the four and 1627 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,880 Speaker 8: three team. They're the favorites to win the Super Bowl 1628 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 8: and every sports work in the country, like, when is 1629 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,200 Speaker 8: the last time a four and three team was favored 1630 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 8: to win anything? 1631 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,280 Speaker 5: Maybe their own division, but like that's the league r 1632 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,040 Speaker 5: in this year. The Eagles, people have dumped on them 1633 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:35,320 Speaker 5: all year long. They're six and two. 1634 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,800 Speaker 8: The Lions, I would say, are another team that you'd 1635 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,080 Speaker 8: respect if they're five are the Packers are five on 1636 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:45,799 Speaker 8: a one? The Rams, you know, I'm Indianapolis, maybe Buffalo. 1637 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 8: Even Buffalo has been very gettable this year. It's not 1638 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 8: a great league, which I think, by. 1639 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,720 Speaker 5: The way, makes it a really interesting season because you're 1640 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,680 Speaker 5: gonna have a lot of playoff games in January. You 1641 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,840 Speaker 5: don't know wh where they're gonna go. I would also say, two, 1642 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,200 Speaker 5: fuck the Colt Stadler schedule is gonna. 1643 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,799 Speaker 8: Get harder here coming up. You know, the game of Pittsburgh. 1644 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 8: I think they should win, but it's not an easy game. 1645 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 8: A couple of weeks they go to Arrowhead, Like let's 1646 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:10,599 Speaker 8: say they. 1647 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 5: Moves either to Kansas City or to a team of 1648 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,719 Speaker 5: that silk in the next month month and a half. 1649 01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 8: You know, maybe that was a really hard fuck game 1650 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,800 Speaker 8: and they lose thirty to twenty seven, What does that. 1651 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 5: Mean they're a fraud? Like if they lose that game 1652 01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,800 Speaker 5: by three points or a six points, does that mean? 1653 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,479 Speaker 5: And if they win it, I think that would give 1654 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,960 Speaker 5: them the justification if it. Yeah, they're the best team football. 1655 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,320 Speaker 5: But I don't think they need like right now, when. 1656 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,720 Speaker 8: You're winning the fight, the margins they're winning by, you're 1657 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 8: really good, Like, I don't know that. 1658 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,639 Speaker 5: They need that validation. Maybe naturally they do. They don't suvy. 1659 01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 3: By the way, Matt, you can put this one like 1660 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 3: in a little like in your phone and the notes. Thing. 1661 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,960 Speaker 3: Don't do it right now while you're driving on Have 1662 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:53,640 Speaker 3: you been through Iowa where you can stop at the 1663 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 3: world's largest truck stop? At least? Have you done that yet? 1664 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:56,880 Speaker 1: Bro? 1665 01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 5: I've done that about twenty five times in my life. 1666 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 10: Uh. 1667 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,680 Speaker 8: Maybe, And I gotta tell you it is outrageous. Like 1668 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:05,840 Speaker 8: there's dental. 1669 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,120 Speaker 3: Offices that there's there's a I would have there one time, 1670 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,439 Speaker 3: there's a barber shop and I thought to myself. The 1671 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 3: only problem with getting my haircut in this barber shop 1672 01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,519 Speaker 3: is the comb touched the hair of the guy before me, right, 1673 01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 3: And there's like it's there are some strange looking cats 1674 01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:21,880 Speaker 3: walking around that joint. 1675 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 5: There's there's a lot going on. At one time I 1676 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:25,640 Speaker 5: was in it. 1677 01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,720 Speaker 8: There's a line, there's a like Einstein Bagels or whatever the 1678 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:29,120 Speaker 8: hell it was. 1679 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 5: And I was there and I'm in New Yorker. 1680 01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 8: So there's a guy in front of me the Hell's 1681 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,160 Speaker 8: Angels jacket on with a New York past, and hey, 1682 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 8: they were part of New York. And he turned around 1683 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,360 Speaker 8: and looked at me like you want to kill me? 1684 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:46,280 Speaker 8: And I sucked down, got assassed feelingly possible, but uh 1685 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 8: yeah no, I wa I way is a battle to. 1686 01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 5: Test your shelf, to see how much you really want 1687 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:51,720 Speaker 5: to live. 1688 01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 8: I feel like that's what I will put you throw 1689 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,879 Speaker 8: it in four and a half hours ago, he west. 1690 01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:57,800 Speaker 5: Founded down as it may be. 1691 01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 3: Listen, you need to stop it made right. You need 1692 01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 3: to stop at a mad right and get a made right, 1693 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,639 Speaker 3: loose meat sandwich. And when you do it, you will 1694 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 3: become part Iowan and you'll be like, you know what, 1695 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,439 Speaker 3: It's all good now, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. 1696 01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:14,799 Speaker 5: That a shot maybe on the way back tomorrow. 1697 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm telling you. If you think Taco about Cantina 1698 01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,400 Speaker 3: Saves Downtown Indy, you you ain't seen anything like made 1699 01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 3: right Saves Iowa. I'm just telling you that right now, Matt, 1700 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,959 Speaker 3: outside of Indianapolis, I mean, the Colts are the obvious 1701 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,680 Speaker 3: answer here. But outside of the Colts, tell me a 1702 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,479 Speaker 3: team in the National Football League right now whose record 1703 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,519 Speaker 3: may not overwhelm you, but they've been impressive because they're 1704 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,559 Speaker 3: actually getting the most out of what they have on roster. 1705 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,280 Speaker 8: Well, there's a few ways stands that question. I mean 1706 01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,240 Speaker 8: Kansas City in regards to back to fourth REBA watchman, 1707 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,560 Speaker 8: it feels like they're almost to stop. But to the 1708 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:53,760 Speaker 8: speriend of your question, there's a two teams you could 1709 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,680 Speaker 8: point to. I mean, look, I would say, like for 1710 01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,680 Speaker 8: Denver six and two, so their record is impressive, and 1711 01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,519 Speaker 8: you watch them and you're like, I don't know how 1712 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 8: this team is six and two at this offense that 1713 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:09,560 Speaker 8: Dallas is notwithstanding because Dallas Brosus defensively, but you know, 1714 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 8: you look at him again, you know what, Like, all right, 1715 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 8: there's the team though I think that probably is Seattle. 1716 01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,400 Speaker 8: Like Jattle five and two and the bye week. This 1717 01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,640 Speaker 8: week they're number one in DVOA, and you look at 1718 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,240 Speaker 8: the Seahawks and okay, Jackson Smiths, the Jigs has been great, 1719 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,840 Speaker 8: and Darnald has proven not to be a fluke that 1720 01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:30,519 Speaker 8: is not an overwhelming roster. 1721 01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:32,360 Speaker 5: But you don't look at Seattle and just go, oh 1722 01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:32,639 Speaker 5: my god. 1723 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 8: They got eight Pro Bowlers and five All pros, like. 1724 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,800 Speaker 5: They're fine, But then you watch them play and they're 1725 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,200 Speaker 5: really good. They're really good. Now can they win a 1726 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,599 Speaker 5: Super Bowl? I don't know. I had have a hard 1727 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 5: time picking them against Philly or Detroit. 1728 01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 8: Or Green Bay in a playoff game. I think the 1729 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 8: playoffs are a different animal than the regular season. But 1730 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,840 Speaker 8: I get Seattle a lot of credit in the sense 1731 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,720 Speaker 8: that I think going into the year, I thought they 1732 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,799 Speaker 8: would be fine. I thought they compete for a playoff spot. 1733 01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,200 Speaker 8: But they've shown to be more than the some of 1734 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,240 Speaker 8: their parts. And it's a credit to the coaching staff. 1735 01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,800 Speaker 8: It's the credit to Darnold and sing the Jig that's 1736 01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,080 Speaker 8: gone from being an up and coming star to a superstars, 1737 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 8: being a top five to. 1738 01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,200 Speaker 1: Ten receiver in the NFL. 1739 01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,799 Speaker 3: I like the fact that you thought because the guys 1740 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,519 Speaker 3: Hell's Angels Vest said New York that like you guys 1741 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,439 Speaker 3: were gonna bond over a bagel together, right, I thought 1742 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:27,000 Speaker 3: we could talk. 1743 01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,559 Speaker 8: I mean, litten, I got another's Iowa And you know, listen, 1744 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,280 Speaker 8: I had I had an uncle who may or may 1745 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 8: not have been in a few interesting organizations in his life, 1746 01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:36,840 Speaker 8: maybe including that one. 1747 01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,120 Speaker 5: So like, yeah, let's get I could talk to this. 1748 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,080 Speaker 5: I could not talk to that guy. 1749 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,040 Speaker 3: He thought maybe he knew Uncle Mike. Okay, that's cool. 1750 01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,280 Speaker 8: Guy, this is all right, And then, as it turns, 1751 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,000 Speaker 8: immediately his facialist prectable here is not all right. Yeah, 1752 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:55,679 Speaker 8: how did I say? 1753 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:56,720 Speaker 1: Hey? 1754 01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:02,080 Speaker 3: Which is the If you had to pick one one 1755 01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:06,200 Speaker 3: of two right now that would be listed as the 1756 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,360 Speaker 3: MVP for the Indianapolis Colts, would you say Jonathan Taylor 1757 01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 3: or Daniel Jones. 1758 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 8: Jones Taylor's been the better. Taylor's been unbelievable. I mean, 1759 01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,599 Speaker 8: to me, right now, I give it like my old 1760 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,440 Speaker 8: fit michigan O Pro team comes out to Marvel Sports Illustrated, 1761 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 8: not the break any shocking news, but like Taylor's obviously 1762 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 8: on my own pro he has been unbelievable. I think 1763 01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,240 Speaker 8: he and McCaffrey have been the two best running back 1764 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,880 Speaker 8: in the league. And McCaffrey mostly because because mister c. 1765 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:39,000 Speaker 8: Taylor has been spectacular, But I would say Jones from 1766 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,240 Speaker 8: the standpoint that look, if if they got the quarterback play, 1767 01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,559 Speaker 8: they'll Let's be honest, a lot of us thought they 1768 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,240 Speaker 8: were going to get come into the season, whether it 1769 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,080 Speaker 8: be from Jones or from Anthony Richardson. 1770 01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 5: Their record is what right now? You know? I mean, 1771 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,640 Speaker 5: it's it's maybe maybe. 1772 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 8: Because of this a little bit of a offic schedule, 1773 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,960 Speaker 8: maybe five and three something like, but nobody's. 1774 01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 5: Sitting here thinking about them, and that could legitimately get 1775 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 5: in the Aghy playoffs and do a lot of damage. 1776 01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,680 Speaker 5: Whereas Jones had. 1777 01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 8: Jones has not been as good of a quarterback as 1778 01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:11,000 Speaker 8: Taylor has been a running back, but because of the 1779 01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 8: importance of the position and the stability Jones has brought 1780 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:15,800 Speaker 8: to it. 1781 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,240 Speaker 5: Like he's only got three three hundred yards in a 1782 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:19,640 Speaker 5: game once this year, I believe it. 1783 01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,040 Speaker 8: But he has been so consistent, he's been accurate, he 1784 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,880 Speaker 8: has not turned the ball over, He's made plays under 1785 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:27,920 Speaker 8: dow and they needed it. 1786 01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 5: Like that is to me the difference between Taylor having 1787 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:34,840 Speaker 5: a great season on a decent. 1788 01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,360 Speaker 8: Team and Taylor having a great season on a team 1789 01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,519 Speaker 8: that could really contend for something meaningful and so well, 1790 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,479 Speaker 8: I think Taylor is certainly the better player. I think 1791 01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,680 Speaker 8: Jones is the MVP because the position he plays is 1792 01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:47,920 Speaker 8: just the paramount sports. 1793 01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,880 Speaker 3: How much of this is he walked into a situation 1794 01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,680 Speaker 3: with a coach like Shane Steik and that was kind 1795 01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,479 Speaker 3: of a quarterback whisper and had better talent around him 1796 01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,600 Speaker 3: than he did in New York, And how much of 1797 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 3: it is just the natural progression and growth of a quarterback. 1798 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:09,599 Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of the former. 1799 01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,120 Speaker 8: Look, I'm a big believer that quarterbacks not all I mean, 1800 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:15,800 Speaker 8: there are some guys who are just so special it 1801 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:20,000 Speaker 8: maybe it wouldn't matter most guys, the majority of quarterbacks, 1802 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,519 Speaker 8: their success or failure. 1803 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,479 Speaker 5: It's just where are you going? Where are you going 1804 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:25,920 Speaker 5: in the league? 1805 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,280 Speaker 8: I remember last year I'd a story that I was 1806 01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 8: up in Minnesota for like I think it was like two. 1807 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 5: For three days last week of the season. They're going 1808 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 5: to play the freight in that game for winner take 1809 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:35,240 Speaker 5: All in the. 1810 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,439 Speaker 8: North, And I was talking the people in the building 1811 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,720 Speaker 8: and then while I was at the hotel, I was 1812 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,360 Speaker 8: talking to some people around the league to kind of 1813 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 8: get killer for the story on background, and I talked 1814 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,080 Speaker 8: to this one personnel director in the NFL about Darnell 1815 01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,160 Speaker 8: as how surprised the you that he's playing as well, 1816 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:52,519 Speaker 8: And he was like. 1817 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 5: I'm not like he got drafted by the Jets. They're 1818 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,160 Speaker 5: the Jets. Of course they screwed it up. 1819 01:39:58,920 --> 01:39:59,800 Speaker 1: And what. 1820 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:02,880 Speaker 5: That's like a common study. 1821 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,280 Speaker 8: I think that's a lot about how people feel about jumps, 1822 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,160 Speaker 8: where it's like, well, yeah, he went to the Giants, like, 1823 01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:09,400 Speaker 8: of course it's the Giant. 1824 01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:10,680 Speaker 5: Now, look, you could argue that. 1825 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:14,240 Speaker 8: Dable is not you know, a bad coach can arguer 1826 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,360 Speaker 8: is how your opinion is of him. 1827 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 5: But that organization had stunk now for the better part 1828 01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:21,360 Speaker 5: of fifteen years. 1829 01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,400 Speaker 8: And I think with Psyching, I remember writing when they 1830 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 8: signed him, Look they brought him into three raison. He's 1831 01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,679 Speaker 8: got mobility, he's accurate, and he doesn't turned the football 1832 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,360 Speaker 8: over and they will just give him eg for a season. 1833 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,479 Speaker 5: Throwing his He's played better than that. He's made him 1834 01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:36,400 Speaker 5: really tough throws too. 1835 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 8: But I'm not surprised he's played the best football that year. 1836 01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,800 Speaker 8: I'm surprised he's played as well as has. I didn't 1837 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,240 Speaker 8: have him going for forty four hundred yards of my 1838 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 8: fingo card. 1839 01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 5: But he's been He's been what I thought he'd be. 1840 01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,240 Speaker 8: But on steroids, and that is to a team that 1841 01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,800 Speaker 8: is not just winning, they are dominating people. And so look, 1842 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,479 Speaker 8: I don't know how the back half of the year 1843 01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,280 Speaker 8: will play out. I expect them to be very good. 1844 01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,280 Speaker 8: I expect him to play well, and I expect them 1845 01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,080 Speaker 8: to be hosting at minimum, you know, or one bigger 1846 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,320 Speaker 8: playoff Kansas, not all of them as the season on fault. 1847 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,040 Speaker 3: Do you think Matt Berderram is our guest by the 1848 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,320 Speaker 3: way he's on the Java House peel and poor guest line. 1849 01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 3: His work can be read at SI, including his mid 1850 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,679 Speaker 3: season All Pro Team coming out. Matt, do you believe 1851 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:29,000 Speaker 3: with Daniel Jones that this is now a foregone conclusion 1852 01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,760 Speaker 3: slam dunk, that the Colts go ahead and lock him 1853 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,800 Speaker 3: in long term or do you think they still want 1854 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,639 Speaker 3: to see more and in particular in the second half 1855 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,360 Speaker 3: when you have Kansas City, San Francisco, Seattle, et cetera 1856 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,679 Speaker 3: on the schedule, I'd. 1857 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,679 Speaker 8: Want to see the second half because I think that's 1858 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,320 Speaker 8: only proved and not because I'm waiting for the other 1859 01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:51,120 Speaker 8: shooting drops, Because look, you have a lot of evidence 1860 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,599 Speaker 8: prior to this year that Daniel Jones is somewhere between 1861 01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,760 Speaker 8: a backup and a low level starting quarterback. Now, all 1862 01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:00,200 Speaker 8: of a sudden issue, you have evidence to gill top 1863 01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,680 Speaker 8: ten quarterback in football. If I'm the coach, I'm not 1864 01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,680 Speaker 8: in some massive rush to extend him right now, like 1865 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 8: you get to the end of the year if you 1866 01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,920 Speaker 8: have to tag him and then sign him off the tag, 1867 01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,599 Speaker 8: like I don't think they're just overwhelming. Oh my goodness, 1868 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,439 Speaker 8: if we don't sign him before week eleven, what's gonna happen? 1869 01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,920 Speaker 5: Like, why, there's no there's no big push now, I 1870 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:21,200 Speaker 5: get it. 1871 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 8: You could argue, well, what if it plays like that 1872 01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,000 Speaker 8: the whole rest Ofhey, okay, that's a good problem. That 1873 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,160 Speaker 8: has depending him a couple extra million years, so one 1874 01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:28,840 Speaker 8: who cares you get your quarterback doesn't matter. 1875 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,080 Speaker 5: I would wait. I would wait to see how it goes, 1876 01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:33,920 Speaker 5: because the last. 1877 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:35,360 Speaker 8: Of you, honest is lock him in. I mean, look, 1878 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 8: this is a much different situation. But I remember, you 1879 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,960 Speaker 8: know ways that years back. Ryan Fitzpatrick for the Bills 1880 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 8: was like unbelievable the first four or five weeks of 1881 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 8: the year, and they gave him what sounds like nothing 1882 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:49,599 Speaker 8: now but like a sixty six. 1883 01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,840 Speaker 5: Million dollar contract. They won one game the rest of 1884 01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:55,040 Speaker 5: the year. But I don't think that's gonna happen here. 1885 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,800 Speaker 5: They have a much bigger sample size. But I would 1886 01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,960 Speaker 5: wait it out. I see how it goes. 1887 01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:00,680 Speaker 8: You men. 1888 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 5: Look, their schedule is tougher. 1889 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,240 Speaker 8: They have some teams the back half ter even Houston 1890 01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,840 Speaker 8: a team it's not great, but very good. Defensively, they 1891 01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,760 Speaker 8: would play them twice, like I'd wait it out. 1892 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:12,439 Speaker 5: But if he continues to play. 1893 01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:14,400 Speaker 8: Like, yeah, they're gonna open up the wall, but they're 1894 01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 8: not gonna let him walk out the door. 1895 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:21,160 Speaker 3: What challenges does Pittsburgh present for the Colts? What do 1896 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 3: the Steelers do well that could perhaps be of Achilles 1897 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,719 Speaker 3: to Indianapolish nothing. 1898 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:33,800 Speaker 8: Defensively, they're an absolute tire fire defentially, I mean defensively 1899 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:34,559 Speaker 8: between them and. 1900 01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,840 Speaker 5: Dallas, it was like it was like watching eleven on six. 1901 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:42,519 Speaker 8: But look, I think you know Pittsburgh, they they've run 1902 01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,439 Speaker 8: the ball off better since they've really kind of leaned 1903 01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,560 Speaker 8: into Jaalen Warren. You know, gain Well has been a 1904 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,559 Speaker 8: nice little change of pace back. So they're gonna look 1905 01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,280 Speaker 8: they can run the ball. They're they're very good in 1906 01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,760 Speaker 8: the quick game passing. Now, now one thing about them, 1907 01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,120 Speaker 8: they very rarely stretched the field. Rogers has the lowest 1908 01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,880 Speaker 8: average depth of target if anybody in the nfell like 1909 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,560 Speaker 8: everything with them, even on a longer down in this 1910 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,479 Speaker 8: short big thing in the same as of the Colts. 1911 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,519 Speaker 8: Gotta tackle it doesn't he can complete the seven percent passes, 1912 01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,120 Speaker 8: makes no differences. Every pass is like four yards outfield. 1913 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,519 Speaker 5: You have to tackle. You know, you're not gonna get 1914 01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,280 Speaker 5: a ton of facts in this game because it's just 1915 01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:19,679 Speaker 5: it's the way the Steelers play. 1916 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,800 Speaker 8: It's not Conducers do it. But gotta be you know, 1917 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,400 Speaker 8: gat the sound assignments. Defensively against the run, you gotta 1918 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,840 Speaker 8: be able to tackle on his face. The secondary, they're 1919 01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 8: gonna try to stretch out Metchalf. 1920 01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,560 Speaker 5: Obviously, big body guy, not the he's just got to 1921 01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:33,120 Speaker 5: bring down. 1922 01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,600 Speaker 8: And then look, defensively, the one thing Pittsford can do 1923 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:39,439 Speaker 8: is is they can rush the passer. And that's if 1924 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:43,559 Speaker 8: you can block, you can you can do whatever you want. Again, 1925 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:47,519 Speaker 8: that that's secondary is awful but you know, hold up 1926 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 8: against hold up against Watt and her big and hein 1927 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:54,559 Speaker 8: Smith Heyward. That that's the challenge that defense presents. There's 1928 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,080 Speaker 8: not much else they do well, if you got to 1929 01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:57,599 Speaker 8: get pressure. 1930 01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,320 Speaker 3: I notice you went tire fire instead of dumpster fire. 1931 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,280 Speaker 3: Now I prefer tire fire as well, especially living in Indie. 1932 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 3: But do you is there a difference really between tire 1933 01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:08,559 Speaker 3: fire and dumpster fire? 1934 01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1935 01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,439 Speaker 5: I think it dumps the fire is a bigger fire. 1936 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,599 Speaker 8: Like like I feel like, whatever the hell Cincinnati did 1937 01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 8: defensively yesterday, that's a dumpster fire. 1938 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,559 Speaker 5: Okay, I mean you give you give him a five 1939 01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,600 Speaker 5: hundred meaning automatically, is it? 1940 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,360 Speaker 8: I you know, the only reason the Bengals having fired 1941 01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,560 Speaker 8: everybody defensively is it's just too much trouble to do 1942 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 8: that right now. But yeah, I go to dumps the 1943 01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:36,720 Speaker 8: fires they're more all encompassing. 1944 01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 3: Tire more isolated. But but a lot of smoke, a 1945 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,479 Speaker 3: lot of thick, thick smoke with a tire fire, just. 1946 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,719 Speaker 8: So you know, uh, a lot a lot of attention 1947 01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:51,320 Speaker 8: being drawn to the entire fire from a wifeless. 1948 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is correct, all right, Matt. In conclusion here, now, 1949 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,920 Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. And I'm going off of your 1950 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,960 Speaker 3: ex post twitter bio, which is always all knowing. Uh, 1951 01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:01,080 Speaker 3: it says that you do do radio work as well 1952 01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,679 Speaker 3: for the Kansas City Sports Network. That is fact correct. 1953 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,599 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, podcast but yeah yeah, Okay, that's challenge. 1954 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,479 Speaker 3: Okay, So you can throw out that fact if I 1955 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,080 Speaker 3: didn't mention it earlier. It is a fun, fun fact 1956 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,640 Speaker 3: that Patrick Mahomes when these two teams face each other 1957 01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,160 Speaker 3: November twenty third, I believe in the regular season, there 1958 01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,960 Speaker 3: is only one franchise in the National Football League that 1959 01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,479 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has not beaten in a regular season game, 1960 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,320 Speaker 3: and it happens to be the Indianapolis Colts. And that 1961 01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,680 Speaker 3: seemed to be a FATA complete at the beginning of 1962 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,880 Speaker 3: the year that that would end this year. But we 1963 01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,320 Speaker 3: shall see what happens in November. But there's your fact 1964 01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:36,200 Speaker 3: that you can share. 1965 01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,720 Speaker 8: That is that is I believe a actors there's one 1966 01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:41,479 Speaker 8: of the team. But it was like Minnesota b to 1967 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,639 Speaker 8: be a last year. Yeah no, that Look, that game, 1968 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 8: you can make an argument the game of the year, 1969 01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:49,200 Speaker 8: like if they continue to play this way, you know, look, 1970 01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,160 Speaker 8: they got a rough going. I mean, they've got Buffalo 1971 01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:53,880 Speaker 8: and Denver on the road the next two weeks before 1972 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,439 Speaker 8: the Indianapolis game. Their next three Reacher are pretty challenging. 1973 01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,120 Speaker 8: But after that they played, don't they may not looten 1974 01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,080 Speaker 8: to the game after that it will be very if 1975 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,160 Speaker 8: the Colt's going to Arrow and either. 1976 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,160 Speaker 5: Beat him or play into the wire. I don't think. 1977 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 8: Anybody can say anything nationally anymore. I don't think you 1978 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,240 Speaker 8: get any questions about how good the Colt Stroyer. 1979 01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:12,559 Speaker 1: Matt. 1980 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,960 Speaker 3: We appreciate the time as always, Man, drive safe and 1981 01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,960 Speaker 3: enjoy Iowa all right two miles. 1982 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:19,800 Speaker 5: From getting that, and I've never driven back. 1983 01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,200 Speaker 3: Listen. I'm telling you I want a full report on 1984 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,160 Speaker 3: mad Right Sandwiches next time we talk. Matt Verderram joining 1985 01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 3: us on the Java House Peel and poor guest line. 1986 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,200 Speaker 3: Somebody had mentioned, by the way, last time we had 1987 01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,479 Speaker 3: Matt on, which I loved. They said, it sounds like 1988 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,320 Speaker 3: Matt just had some of the Wrangler energy from Java House. 1989 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,600 Speaker 3: This yeah, the guy's NonStop energy. Wrangler energy part of 1990 01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 3: the bundle. By the way, if you go to Java 1991 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,280 Speaker 3: House dot com and enter in my name, it will 1992 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:45,960 Speaker 3: take you right there to where you can get the 1993 01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,200 Speaker 3: bundle and twenty five percent off by using our name. 1994 01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:54,559 Speaker 3: But I do love Jake twenty five. Jake twenty five, Yes, yeah, yeah, Eddie. 1995 01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:55,879 Speaker 3: Have you been to Iowa. 1996 01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:56,680 Speaker 1: I have not. 1997 01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:58,960 Speaker 2: I have not been to Iowa. By the way, last 1998 01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,479 Speaker 2: week I mixed the peacht with the regular energy good stuff. 1999 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,320 Speaker 3: Matthew from Maine mixed the Liquid Science blue and orange together, 2000 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,840 Speaker 3: said it was fabulous, really interesting. They should if you're 2001 01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:12,360 Speaker 3: mixing the blue and the orange, they should call that 2002 01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 3: the thunder Right. 2003 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,799 Speaker 2: You just gave them a marketing idea, Jake. 2004 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,599 Speaker 3: That's what I do. Iowa the state of Iowa. 2005 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:22,679 Speaker 2: I'm of Caitlin Clark. 2006 01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:29,800 Speaker 3: This is how I knew that I'm getting older. When 2007 01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,120 Speaker 3: I was a younger guy, I was a place I 2008 01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,080 Speaker 3: would have been and I'm not. You know, Matt, it 2009 01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,960 Speaker 3: is a driving through Iowa is absolutely a chore. He 2010 01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,040 Speaker 3: is correct in that. I mean, it is a there's 2011 01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:45,960 Speaker 3: it's it is less than scenic for certain But West Branch, 2012 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,880 Speaker 3: Iowa is the hometown of Herbert Hoover. His presidential library there, 2013 01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,240 Speaker 3: I think is one of the better ones. That very interesting. 2014 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,840 Speaker 3: One of the interesting anecdotes about that that I have 2015 01:48:55,920 --> 01:49:00,240 Speaker 3: shared before is that Herbert Hoover before becoming the president 2016 01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,240 Speaker 3: in the United States. His biggest initiative was he was 2017 01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:09,640 Speaker 3: essentially you know, hunger was his big thing of like 2018 01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,799 Speaker 3: making sure that no American went hungry. And it's interesting 2019 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,280 Speaker 3: where he is buried right off of I eighty. When 2020 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:19,240 Speaker 3: you go to his burial site, on his presidential site 2021 01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:22,000 Speaker 3: in West Branch, the only thing you see in the 2022 01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:26,040 Speaker 3: background on the horizon is a huge from like ten well, 2023 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:30,960 Speaker 3: it's probably two miles from there, a huge golden arches 2024 01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,960 Speaker 3: of McDonald's sign. That's the only thing you see on 2025 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,479 Speaker 3: the horizon, which I always found to be ironic, but 2026 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:39,680 Speaker 3: nonetheless I digress. One of the ways that I know 2027 01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,960 Speaker 3: I've gotten older is when I was a younger guy, 2028 01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,000 Speaker 3: I would have been like, Iowa, man, that is lame, 2029 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,120 Speaker 3: like there's and it's a chore to drive through. But 2030 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:51,639 Speaker 3: eastern Iowa, the hills of it are beautiful. Western Iowa 2031 01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:56,920 Speaker 3: is basically corn plains. But Des Moines itself is really 2032 01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:59,880 Speaker 3: a nice town, especially the eastern side of the Moin 2033 01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,640 Speaker 3: area where Kaitlin Clark's from. It's just a people are 2034 01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:07,160 Speaker 3: friendly as heck, it's clean, It's downtown. Des Moines is 2035 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:11,800 Speaker 3: kind of quaint. I kind of like it. But of 2036 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,559 Speaker 3: the fifty states that I asked Matt Verdam the question, 2037 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:17,439 Speaker 3: who is the team that's getting the most out of 2038 01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:20,040 Speaker 3: its roster right now in the NFL? And Seattle's one 2039 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:24,280 Speaker 3: of those that he mentioned as somebody. Someday when I'm 2040 01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,880 Speaker 3: really bored, I'll do my blog of ranking the all 2041 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,559 Speaker 3: fifty states on my experience having been to fifty of them. 2042 01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,839 Speaker 3: But Iowa is one that kind of is like the Seahawks. 2043 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:34,679 Speaker 3: I feel like it gets the most out of itself. 2044 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:37,360 Speaker 3: I was kind of underrated. 2045 01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,760 Speaker 2: I thought he would go with the New England Patriots. 2046 01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:43,000 Speaker 3: That's a really good one. I mean New England is 2047 01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:46,800 Speaker 3: totally off radar, right, I mean totally Is it under 2048 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:47,920 Speaker 3: radar or off radar? 2049 01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I'm not sure if they are anymore. Jake, 2050 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,160 Speaker 2: just because of the way Drake maizmon balling. I mean, 2051 01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,880 Speaker 2: he's got like the third or fifth best odds now 2052 01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,200 Speaker 2: to win the MVP. 2053 01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,240 Speaker 3: He's playing at a very high level, no question about it. 2054 01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:02,920 Speaker 2: Reminds me of the guy that the Colts will see 2055 01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:03,400 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 2056 01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:08,439 Speaker 3: They of the guy that the Colts will see on Sunday. 2057 01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,840 Speaker 3: H you're saying Drake may remind you of Aaron Rodgers. 2058 01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,880 Speaker 3: Does you mean current Aaron Rodgers or former Aaron Rodgers 2059 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,680 Speaker 3: for Aaron quick release pinpoint act Aaron Rodgers now, And 2060 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,360 Speaker 3: I get it. I'm not making fun of it because 2061 01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:22,560 Speaker 3: I understand the importance of you know, concussion protection and 2062 01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,360 Speaker 3: all that nobility within the pocket. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers. Whre's 2063 01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,160 Speaker 3: a helmet where he looks like the Great Gazoo from 2064 01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:31,120 Speaker 3: the Flintstones. It's very odd. I mean, I'm not saying 2065 01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:32,960 Speaker 3: the helmet's odd. I get why he does it, but 2066 01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:34,320 Speaker 3: like he he looks. 2067 01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:34,439 Speaker 1: Out at it. 2068 01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,600 Speaker 3: But but Aaron Rodgers also just looks frustrated everywhere he is, 2069 01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,800 Speaker 3: no matter who he's playing with, no matter what's going on, 2070 01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:41,839 Speaker 3: he always looks frustrated. 2071 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:43,640 Speaker 2: There was a report I forget who had it. I 2072 01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,600 Speaker 2: saw it over the weekend. May have been might have 2073 01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,519 Speaker 2: been Mike Garofolo or one of the guys on NFL 2074 01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,400 Speaker 2: Network that the Pittsburgh Steelers are trying to convince Aaron 2075 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:52,920 Speaker 2: Rodgers to come back for another season. 2076 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I could see it. You know what other 2077 01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:56,200 Speaker 3: options do they have? 2078 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,800 Speaker 2: He has played well this year. I will say that the. 2079 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,840 Speaker 3: Culture through eight games and that means in eight words 2080 01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,920 Speaker 3: or fewer. I wanted your thoughts on summary of it, 2081 01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,200 Speaker 3: and some of you gave some great answers. I'll read 2082 01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:12,960 Speaker 3: them next. So the Colts are seven and one through 2083 01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,719 Speaker 3: eight games. They have the best record in the National 2084 01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:20,160 Speaker 3: Football League, just as all of you predicted, myself included, 2085 01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:28,560 Speaker 3: I said ten and seven. That seems safe. But I 2086 01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,960 Speaker 3: always ask the question after each game, give me your 2087 01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:38,280 Speaker 3: summary after insert name of games they've played for the 2088 01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:42,680 Speaker 3: number of words that you can use. Some of the 2089 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,680 Speaker 3: replies yesterday, and there were some good ones, like, for 2090 01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:54,720 Speaker 3: example from Little Birchie, this team is tailor made to 2091 01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,640 Speaker 3: win games. And I did not count the words to 2092 01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,200 Speaker 3: make sure that all of these fit within the word parameter. 2093 01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 3: But I like that tailor made. See what he did there, 2094 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:12,479 Speaker 3: JT MVP, hashtag why not Indiana, the hashtag alont trademark 2095 01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:17,879 Speaker 3: that gets you in right. This from Daniel, Oh my goodness, 2096 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:23,719 Speaker 3: I was so wrong. Rob says best team in the league. 2097 01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:24,719 Speaker 3: There is no doubt. 2098 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,599 Speaker 2: Now I'm trying to figure out what this person is saying. 2099 01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:33,679 Speaker 2: Boiler Tad still waiting for the other shoe to drop 2100 01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,440 Speaker 2: exactly that. What other shoe are they referring. 2101 01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,360 Speaker 3: To I think a lot of people feel that way though, 2102 01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:43,240 Speaker 3: of and I think boiler Tad probably is saying that 2103 01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,880 Speaker 3: just in the form of it still doesn't feel real. 2104 01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,080 Speaker 3: So you're waiting for, like, wait a minute, where is 2105 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:54,280 Speaker 3: the like the piano that's hanging over the coyote, you know, like, 2106 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,920 Speaker 3: where's it gonna what's gonna happen here? And part of 2107 01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,880 Speaker 3: that is just there's a condition, especially as a Colts 2108 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,840 Speaker 3: fan of the last decade or so, for that to 2109 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 3: be the case, right, Spencer Schriner, this is a really 2110 01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:12,720 Speaker 3: good one, so good it's boring photo Matt, the Indianapolis 2111 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:19,160 Speaker 3: Colts are rocking. Don't bother knocking Indiana Jones and Raiders 2112 01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:22,240 Speaker 3: of the lost Quarterback. You're not kidding the fact that 2113 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,840 Speaker 3: he was a lost quarterback that found his place, right. 2114 01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:32,640 Speaker 3: I like this one, Trevian a golden opportunity. Then in Priston, 2115 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 3: I see that's three words, right, So he's got five 2116 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:40,400 Speaker 3: words left to play with. So in printhesys he puts Ballard, 2117 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 3: do not screw up. Jonathan Taylor is the unanimous most 2118 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,280 Speaker 3: valuable player that from Sean Again, I think the most 2119 01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:53,800 Speaker 3: valuable player is Daniel Jones I think Taylor is the 2120 01:54:53,920 --> 01:55:00,200 Speaker 3: most outstanding player, but if you have I had to 2121 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,560 Speaker 3: remove one of the two of them. Moving forward, without 2122 01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:08,040 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, who has been absolutely outstanding, you still get 2123 01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:12,640 Speaker 3: probably sixty percent the production at the running back position, 2124 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,120 Speaker 3: and your offense still is able to go at probably 2125 01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,680 Speaker 3: eighty percent efficiency. You take Daniel Jones out, it's Katie 2126 01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,880 Speaker 3: bar the door. Nothing against Reiley Leonard, and but Anthony 2127 01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:25,320 Speaker 3: Richards is not available, and that makes it even that 2128 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:29,680 Speaker 3: much more valuable to have him in there. Which leads 2129 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,360 Speaker 3: to my buddy Adam Shuckman, can we have Player of 2130 01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:39,080 Speaker 3: the Year tie dr who would have guessed Daniel Jones? 2131 01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:40,240 Speaker 3: The answer. 2132 01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:45,240 Speaker 2: From Marcus whoever drafted Jonathan Taylor should keep their job. 2133 01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 3: This from Ross still, do not extend Ballard? Wow, Okay, okay, 2134 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:59,280 Speaker 3: this from Michael to that point, Michael Turner playing so 2135 01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:04,760 Speaker 3: well worried Ballard gets an extension. Here's a really good 2136 01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:10,640 Speaker 3: one from Brian Taylor. Glad the Star Wars numbers are 2137 01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:15,920 Speaker 3: sort of back, because that was if you recall Jim 2138 01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:19,520 Speaker 3: or Say, one of his big things was back when 2139 01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:21,440 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning was playing, when he said, you know, we 2140 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:23,600 Speaker 3: had all the Star Wars numbers, but we didn't have 2141 01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,560 Speaker 3: We should have had multiple Lombardies because of this. By 2142 01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:28,080 Speaker 3: the way, is it freezing in here? 2143 01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:28,480 Speaker 1: Is at me? 2144 01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:29,600 Speaker 2: It's a little cold. 2145 01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:34,960 Speaker 3: It feels freezing to me in here. We need to 2146 01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,720 Speaker 3: get those guys that love heating and air on the 2147 01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,520 Speaker 3: case because they got twenty four hour on call maintenance 2148 01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:46,440 Speaker 3: and they also sponsor our crossover coming up. Expected defensive 2149 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:50,560 Speaker 3: improvements from experienced coordinator. Now, hold on, how many words 2150 01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,720 Speaker 3: is this slash offense? Shocking? That seems like over eight, 2151 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:58,480 Speaker 3: But that's okay. Stole the words from some other people. Short, 2152 01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:02,400 Speaker 3: I like this from Big M nine to three four. 2153 01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:08,640 Speaker 3: I was wrong about Daniel Jones. My bad. Now, one 2154 01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:13,000 Speaker 3: guy that Eddie grew up with, that Eddie used to 2155 01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:15,160 Speaker 3: spot for in the weight room is probably you know, 2156 01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:16,320 Speaker 3: it was the other way around, Jake. 2157 01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:19,360 Speaker 2: Come on, now, don't you know this? Uh huh uh Tyrone, 2158 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,640 Speaker 2: Tracy's probably about to get some more reps. 2159 01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:23,960 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm good for Tyrone. 2160 01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:26,520 Speaker 2: But in the nature of which why it's unfortunate Camp's 2161 01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 2: kataboo dislocated ankle will be out for the rest of 2162 01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:30,640 Speaker 2: the season. 2163 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,160 Speaker 3: Interesting because I a couple of weeks ago. I was 2164 01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,680 Speaker 3: watching him and I sent a tweet that said something 2165 01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:41,160 Speaker 3: along the lines of, you know, this guy was like 2166 01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:46,560 Speaker 3: the eleventh running backs selected in the draft, and yet 2167 01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,920 Speaker 3: he almost It's unfair to the rest of the roster 2168 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,120 Speaker 3: at Arizona State to say he single handle he got 2169 01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,080 Speaker 3: them in the college football playoff a year ago. I mean, 2170 01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,040 Speaker 3: it's not like I watched a lot of Arizona State, 2171 01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,000 Speaker 3: but he was so electric and dynamic in that playoff 2172 01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:03,400 Speaker 3: game against Texas. He was virtually unstoppable. 2173 01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:07,200 Speaker 2: He also had two NFL receivers on that team, Jalen 2174 01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:10,200 Speaker 2: Noel and Jayden Higgins, both with the Texans now and 2175 01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:12,160 Speaker 2: Rocobec's to solid quarterback. 2176 01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,240 Speaker 3: But I mean he was he was unbelievable. I mean 2177 01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:19,680 Speaker 3: in the playoff game against Texas last year. Let me 2178 01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,280 Speaker 3: see what Skataboo did. I mean, did you watch that game? 2179 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,160 Speaker 3: The playoff game last year? It was it was one 2180 01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:26,680 Speaker 3: of those I think it went into overtime. 2181 01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,760 Speaker 2: He threw for a touchdown. Didn't you catch a touchdown 2182 01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:29,720 Speaker 2: and rush for a touchdown? 2183 01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:33,200 Speaker 3: Okay, he I'm going to look here at the box 2184 01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:35,800 Speaker 3: score to see what he did. Cam Skataboo. Yet last year, 2185 01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,839 Speaker 3: in that game, You are correct. He threw for a touchdown, 2186 01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 3: a forty two yard touchdown pass. He carried the ball 2187 01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,680 Speaker 3: thirty times for one hundred and forty three yards, and 2188 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 3: he caught eight passes for ninety nine yards. I mean, 2189 01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,360 Speaker 3: he was everywhere, did everything but sell the popcorn, and 2190 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:53,960 Speaker 3: so I'm like, man, and then he gets into the NFL, 2191 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,800 Speaker 3: and yet it's the same thing. I mean every time 2192 01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,640 Speaker 3: he got in it was like he was like John 2193 01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,280 Speaker 3: Riggins and Jerome Bettis all tied up into one and 2194 01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:04,440 Speaker 3: Mike Alstott and several people. When I said, like, how 2195 01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:07,720 Speaker 3: does this guy fall this far? Then that's when people 2196 01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,080 Speaker 3: pointed out and it's a very good point. With that 2197 01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,720 Speaker 3: playing style, his durability is going to be in question now. 2198 01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:16,520 Speaker 3: Interesting because with this injury, he was basically just going 2199 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:21,000 Speaker 3: out on a pass play and he he planted and 2200 01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:23,440 Speaker 3: I think that's where I don't know that he got hit, 2201 01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:25,600 Speaker 3: but it was just an awkward plant and then. 2202 01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,160 Speaker 2: He got hit a little bit better. It just kind 2203 01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:30,200 Speaker 2: of looked like his right got caught in the in 2204 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:30,960 Speaker 2: the in the ground. 2205 01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:35,480 Speaker 3: There the other story that we talked about earlier, Don 2206 01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,760 Speaker 3: Fischer joined us that will be available. You can listen 2207 01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:39,600 Speaker 3: to it in podcasts form at one oh seven five 2208 01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:41,000 Speaker 3: in the fan dot com. We asked that you wait 2209 01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:45,280 Speaker 3: until after our programming today to be able or to 2210 01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,200 Speaker 3: listen to it. But we were talking about just Indiana 2211 01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:54,720 Speaker 3: football and I you and the Colts both you've kind 2212 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:59,760 Speaker 3: of run out of superlatives. You can talk all you 2213 01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:03,560 Speaker 3: want about both of them, but now you're at the 2214 02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:05,560 Speaker 3: point where you just expect him to go out there. 2215 02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:08,760 Speaker 3: And you know Alex Polo, who I think might join 2216 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,120 Speaker 3: us sometime this week just to recap his visit to 2217 02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:14,920 Speaker 3: Bloomington and being there, I did hear a funny story where. 2218 02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Talk about a guy that's been everywhere since the Indy 2219 02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:18,200 Speaker 2: Cars is good. 2220 02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:22,960 Speaker 3: That's what they need, right, Yes, So Alex Polo went 2221 02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:26,400 Speaker 3: to the game, the IndyCar season champion, Indy five hundred 2222 02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:29,280 Speaker 3: champion went to the IU game as part of the 2223 02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:35,000 Speaker 3: broadcast for Fox, and afterwards he stayed almost the entire 2224 02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,960 Speaker 3: game on the sidelines and at one point he said 2225 02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:44,080 Speaker 3: he said to somebody, man, I almost feel bad for UCLA, 2226 02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:50,280 Speaker 3: And I think it was Jeremy Gray from IU that said, well, yeah, 2227 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:53,240 Speaker 3: but I mean you lead two laps, you know, you 2228 02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:55,120 Speaker 3: lead a field by two laps. Do you feel bad? 2229 02:00:56,280 --> 02:01:00,120 Speaker 3: And Polo said, yeah, but I'm not hurting them. When 2230 02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:01,880 Speaker 3: I lead somebody by two laps, I'm not hurting them. 2231 02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:05,360 Speaker 3: In other words, here's a guy from outside of Barcelona, 2232 02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:08,720 Speaker 3: Spain that is just now kind of learning and understanding 2233 02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:12,600 Speaker 3: the game of American football, and he's watching it, and 2234 02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:15,720 Speaker 3: he's watching Indiana and he's saying to him, he's saying, 2235 02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:20,760 Speaker 3: these guys are just punishing these dudes. That's how resounding 2236 02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:24,320 Speaker 3: it was. And yes, UCLA is in no way, shape 2237 02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:27,120 Speaker 3: or form going to be confused anytime soon with Pete 2238 02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:32,960 Speaker 3: Carroll's USC teams. But they have played better since they've 2239 02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:35,000 Speaker 3: made a coaching change. They'd won three in a row 2240 02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:41,520 Speaker 3: in Indiana flexed and imposed their will on them, Aidan Fisher, 2241 02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:45,480 Speaker 3: who is now probable for the game against Maryland with 2242 02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:50,760 Speaker 3: the pick six, and in typical Kurt Signetti Indiana fashion, 2243 02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:53,440 Speaker 3: they just keep going and going. And I'm telling you 2244 02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:57,720 Speaker 3: right now, Ohio State fans got super upset with me 2245 02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:04,400 Speaker 3: on social media this weekend. Ohio State is outstanding. Their 2246 02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:06,760 Speaker 3: defense is historically elite. 2247 02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:10,960 Speaker 2: There were Ohio State fans complaining that Alberto Mendoza was 2248 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:13,400 Speaker 2: in the game patting his stats for Heisman. Don't you 2249 02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:15,520 Speaker 2: know that's the brother, Yeah, that's the little brother. 2250 02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Right. 2251 02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:20,400 Speaker 3: The reality is this Ohio State's outstanding and they have 2252 02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,960 Speaker 3: probably not put their foot down on the accelerator yet. 2253 02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:32,560 Speaker 3: But as of right now, the Indiana Hoosiers, they are 2254 02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:37,720 Speaker 3: well prepared. They are taking care of the football, they 2255 02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:42,360 Speaker 3: are forcing turnovers. They remind me of Brad Stevens Butler 2256 02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:44,760 Speaker 3: basketball teams, and the fact that they know where balls 2257 02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:48,520 Speaker 3: bounce before it bounces there. They know angles that receivers 2258 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,160 Speaker 3: are coming across before they even get there. They know 2259 02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 3: seemingly where the gaps are defensively to penetrate. They are 2260 02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:02,080 Speaker 3: so well prepared, and they've had their hiccup game at 2261 02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:04,960 Speaker 3: Iowa where they figured out a way to win, and 2262 02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:08,120 Speaker 3: they've had their true test at Oregon where they went 2263 02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:11,040 Speaker 3: in there and as the game went on just took 2264 02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:14,720 Speaker 3: more control of it. Indiana right now on October the 2265 02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:17,080 Speaker 3: twenty sixth or seventh, or whatever we are right now. 2266 02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's going to be the case at 2267 02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:21,680 Speaker 3: the end of the year. I don't know where things fall, 2268 02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,360 Speaker 3: But as of right now, at the end of October, 2269 02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:30,480 Speaker 3: Indiana is the best team in college football. Ohio State's outstanding, 2270 02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:33,680 Speaker 3: there's no question, but if you factor all things in, 2271 02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:40,120 Speaker 3: including most impressive win, it's Indiana's the best team now 2272 02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:44,080 Speaker 3: right now. ESPN they're twelve panelists that predict the college 2273 02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:47,200 Speaker 3: football playoff. Seven have Ohio State is the one seed, 2274 02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:48,960 Speaker 3: five of Indiana as the one seed. 2275 02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Do the first Shoto rankings come out this week? 2276 02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,400 Speaker 3: The college football rankings? I always thought it was the 2277 02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:58,320 Speaker 3: first week in November. You might be right, but it's 2278 02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:01,160 Speaker 3: going to be Ohio State or Indiana question, And if 2279 02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:06,000 Speaker 3: you really go by the schedule, factoring in, it should 2280 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,120 Speaker 3: be for right now Indiana, I think, but they've got 2281 02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:12,080 Speaker 3: some tests though it's gonna get tricky this weekend at Maryland. 2282 02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,960 Speaker 3: Then you got to go to Penn State. I know 2283 02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,800 Speaker 3: Penn State's not what we thought. And before we get 2284 02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:19,800 Speaker 3: to the crossover with JMV, my buddy Pat Dyer asked 2285 02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:23,520 Speaker 3: me this question, which is a fabulous question. When was 2286 02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:26,480 Speaker 3: the last time two coaches that started in the preseason 2287 02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:29,000 Speaker 3: ranking top ten both were fired in the middle of 2288 02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:33,600 Speaker 3: the year And Brian Kelly now has to up and 2289 02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:38,120 Speaker 3: move his family out of LSU. Couldn't happen to a 2290 02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,640 Speaker 3: nicer guy. It would seem a crossover brought to you 2291 02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:42,360 Speaker 3: by the good guys. I love eating and air. We'll 2292 02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:46,760 Speaker 3: find out what John's got lined up. We'll do it next, Eddie. 2293 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,680 Speaker 3: Is game number three tonight, right. 2294 02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:51,600 Speaker 2: Yes, and you can hear it right here on the 2295 02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:55,760 Speaker 2: fans starting at seven o'clock. Toronto Blue Jays and the 2296 02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:58,400 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers series tight out. 2297 02:04:58,280 --> 02:05:03,760 Speaker 3: One, unfortunately. And I have really enjoyed watching the postseason 2298 02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,600 Speaker 3: and notably watching I mean both of them. The Dodgers 2299 02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:11,520 Speaker 3: are wildly entertaining, no question, They've got great players. Toronto. 2300 02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:16,640 Speaker 3: I've really enjoyed watching the Blue Jays. I've been a 2301 02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:18,040 Speaker 3: diehard fan now for eight weeks. 2302 02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:19,800 Speaker 2: No nine, you're going on nine? 2303 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:19,920 Speaker 5: Now? 2304 02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Is it nine? 2305 02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:20,560 Speaker 5: Now? 2306 02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:20,880 Speaker 1: Last? 2307 02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:24,360 Speaker 3: Well, I was a kidding aside. I was a huge 2308 02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:27,080 Speaker 3: Blue Jays fan in the mid eighties. 2309 02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:31,480 Speaker 2: So you know how the cute fella the oriole in 2310 02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:34,480 Speaker 2: the front of the Baltimore Orioles has hey root for 2311 02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:37,040 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, what's the one for the Toronto 2312 02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:39,400 Speaker 2: Blue Jays? What's the blue Jay saying? 2313 02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:41,240 Speaker 3: The hell on of my way? 2314 02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:42,560 Speaker 2: That's what he's saying. 2315 02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:44,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this smoker, blue jay's 2316 02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:48,360 Speaker 3: very aggressive. Yes, blue jays are very aggressive birds. 2317 02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:49,480 Speaker 7: Do you know this? 2318 02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:51,360 Speaker 3: This is a true story. Do you know that blue 2319 02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:53,120 Speaker 3: jays the birds like you look out in your little 2320 02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:54,680 Speaker 3: bird feeder and you're like, oh, it's a blue jay? 2321 02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Is so pretty? Blue jays are known to decapitate birds. Really, 2322 02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:03,360 Speaker 3: the blue jays not mess around. They're aggressive, they're territorial. 2323 02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:08,680 Speaker 3: Blue jays are essentially their nuisances. They're there you of 2324 02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:11,879 Speaker 3: the bird industry, huh, yes, they're they're like an invasive 2325 02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:15,160 Speaker 3: species of the birds, blue jays. So when you see 2326 02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:19,760 Speaker 3: a blue jay, you are correct. The Baltimore oriole Hey 2327 02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:22,920 Speaker 3: for me, the cute fella on the hat blue jay? 2328 02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,280 Speaker 3: Excuse me trying to steal the smokes? 2329 02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:27,120 Speaker 2: Is that Corbyn? 2330 02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:30,120 Speaker 1: That's right? Uh? 2331 02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:32,200 Speaker 2: J and V has arrived at the blue jay's a 2332 02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:34,640 Speaker 2: gripeye historic you know what they yell? 2333 02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:39,320 Speaker 3: That's what. Yes, Yeah, they're like territorial aggressive. I mean 2334 02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:41,320 Speaker 3: they're they're a good look at, but if they're hanging 2335 02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:42,880 Speaker 3: around your bird feed or you want to show them 2336 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:43,160 Speaker 3: out of there. 2337 02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:46,960 Speaker 10: Marlon Perkins and Jim Fowler sitting right here breaking down 2338 02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:49,520 Speaker 10: some stuff for you Kingdom. 2339 02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:55,720 Speaker 3: Honestly though, Yeah, tonight for it seems like Eddie things 2340 02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:58,440 Speaker 3: have shifted to the advantage. La and A Tani's on 2341 02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:01,680 Speaker 3: deck for their pitching rotation and h Max Sure's are 2342 02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:03,840 Speaker 3: going tonight, so they need him to reform like ten 2343 02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:07,920 Speaker 3: years ago style. Yep, J ANDV has arrived. John, what's 2344 02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:09,440 Speaker 3: on the big show today? I don't know. 2345 02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:11,520 Speaker 10: James saw me the hole and said, well, you know, 2346 02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:13,400 Speaker 10: Stephen Holder hadn't gotten a hold of his ship. 2347 02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:13,560 Speaker 5: No. 2348 02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:15,800 Speaker 10: No, I haven't talked to Eddie Gill, so I would 2349 02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:18,960 Speaker 10: assume me and Jack Squatt. Jack Swatt's a pretty good 2350 02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:22,320 Speaker 10: guest though. He's on the Andy Moore Automotive Proof pot Line. 2351 02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:23,400 Speaker 10: Here's Jack Squatt. 2352 02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:24,440 Speaker 1: You know you? 2353 02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Jack Squatt joins. 2354 02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:30,640 Speaker 3: I was on the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline Buddy yesterday, 2355 02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:33,400 Speaker 3: walk up, talk up. That's right. That was fun yesterday. 2356 02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:36,680 Speaker 2: Wait Bowen did Stu Bowen did stew No. 2357 02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:40,400 Speaker 10: He was on Matt Taylor. Matt Taylor had some stuff 2358 02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:43,240 Speaker 10: going on and I like to bounce around too. 2359 02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:43,520 Speaker 5: Now. 2360 02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:45,520 Speaker 10: I wanted to give Query in Company a chance to 2361 02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:46,560 Speaker 10: shout out Quarrying Company. 2362 02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:49,160 Speaker 3: It was fun. We had some fun talking up things 2363 02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:51,800 Speaker 3: and talking about you know, just I you in general, 2364 02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,480 Speaker 3: and yes, we did. You know, it's interesting John, I 2365 02:07:54,640 --> 02:08:00,840 Speaker 3: mentioned this earlier. Indiana and the Colts both kind of 2366 02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:06,160 Speaker 3: feel similar in the form of we've gotten to the 2367 02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:08,840 Speaker 3: point now where we just expect them to get out 2368 02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:11,400 Speaker 3: and roll, and so when they do, it's almost boring, 2369 02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:14,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I mean it's not boring, 2370 02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:16,640 Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying. But yeah, in other words, 2371 02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:18,560 Speaker 3: you look at it and you just go, yeah, what 2372 02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:20,360 Speaker 3: we thought we did they'd do, you know what I mean? 2373 02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:24,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, especially against Tennessee. Yeah, they went from like 2374 02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:26,400 Speaker 10: ten well was it ten to seven at one point 2375 02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:30,160 Speaker 10: something like that, and it went a big charge quickly, yeah, yeah, 2376 02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,920 Speaker 10: big hurry to a blowout. 2377 02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:33,080 Speaker 1: Right. 2378 02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:35,120 Speaker 3: It was unique in the first drive. You and I 2379 02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:38,440 Speaker 3: both were sitting up there yesterday and noticed it that. 2380 02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,640 Speaker 3: And it's not like they abandoned him, so I can't 2381 02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:44,920 Speaker 3: say that, but it was of note that they went 2382 02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,080 Speaker 3: to Jonathan Taylor right out of the box. He got 2383 02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:48,960 Speaker 3: a huge run, he had a huge hole, and then 2384 02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:51,360 Speaker 3: they went like nine straight passes after that. I mean, 2385 02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:52,960 Speaker 3: you want to talk about I guess I don't know 2386 02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:54,360 Speaker 3: if they were just trying to keep things at bay. 2387 02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:59,160 Speaker 3: But you know you're kind of wondering, like, well, when 2388 02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:00,600 Speaker 3: are they going to go back to? And then once 2389 02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:04,400 Speaker 3: they do, you see obviously he is playing at a 2390 02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:08,320 Speaker 3: very high level. He is he is certainly MVP worthy. 2391 02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:10,520 Speaker 3: I understand who is the Matt guy you had on 2392 02:09:10,640 --> 02:09:14,040 Speaker 3: a minute ago, Matt Vert m Oh, yes, yes, good guy. 2393 02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:19,280 Speaker 3: I I mean, listen, there's the debate. It probably just 2394 02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,760 Speaker 3: comes down to, like he mentioned, all right, how good 2395 02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,560 Speaker 3: would they be with? How goould they be without? 2396 02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:28,560 Speaker 10: But I would also argue without Jonathan Taylor, they're drastically different, 2397 02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:31,720 Speaker 10: and maybe Daniel Jones isn't as good. Maybe the playbook 2398 02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:34,280 Speaker 10: closes up a little bit more with Shane Styking. Well 2399 02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:38,160 Speaker 10: you saw what you know when Jones didn't have saw Barkley. Yeah, 2400 02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,440 Speaker 10: how things change for so sure, but now we're having 2401 02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:44,160 Speaker 10: some fun unless you're of the Pacers. Although I think, 2402 02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:47,320 Speaker 10: surely am I going to get a chance to get 2403 02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:48,280 Speaker 10: a ten day or out of this? 2404 02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:49,680 Speaker 3: Surely? 2405 02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:52,400 Speaker 2: Right with my relationship with Chad. 2406 02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:55,200 Speaker 3: Bu Cannon, Yeah, well he hasn't gotten didn't you weren't you? 2407 02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:56,600 Speaker 3: Wasn't he trying to get you a pair of shoes 2408 02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:56,880 Speaker 3: or something. 2409 02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:59,440 Speaker 10: At one point I was trying to get Siakham had 2410 02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,120 Speaker 10: a pair of shoe that I wanted to Evidently they 2411 02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:04,360 Speaker 10: were just made for Sorry, they were just made for 2412 02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:05,480 Speaker 10: Sam Bad. 2413 02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:09,640 Speaker 3: Well god, dang, maybe maybe you should work that words. Look, 2414 02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,200 Speaker 3: spare the efforts on the shoes. Just get me at 2415 02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:13,760 Speaker 3: ten day. If you can play point right now, they'll 2416 02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:14,240 Speaker 3: take you right. 2417 02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2418 02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:16,160 Speaker 10: I don't want to play point though, I want to 2419 02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,320 Speaker 10: play off the ball, but you know they do need Yeah, 2420 02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:20,360 Speaker 10: they I think see I can can still play a 2421 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:23,200 Speaker 10: little bit of point. That was what he was doing yesterday. 2422 02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:24,400 Speaker 2: You know what side of triple double. 2423 02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it. 2424 02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:30,280 Speaker 10: Stinks because they were They were right there last night. 2425 02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,200 Speaker 10: If they could squeeze anything out of the way that's 2426 02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:36,720 Speaker 10: going right now when wise, But you also remember how 2427 02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:39,320 Speaker 10: it was a year ago. Remember I know, back a 2428 02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:44,560 Speaker 10: third week of just Smith and it was awful then side. 2429 02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,720 Speaker 10: But this is much more dire circumstances, no question. 2430 02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:50,280 Speaker 3: All right, John is up next. He will carry you 2431 02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,920 Speaker 3: home for the remainder of the day. Thanks to Don Fisher, 2432 02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:55,440 Speaker 3: thanks to Mike Chaplin, Matt verde Ram. We will be 2433 02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:57,240 Speaker 3: back with you at noon tomorrow, and I thank you 2434 02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:58,400 Speaker 3: for listening. To quarry company