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Speaker 2: Then it was a child who led them tonight.

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Speaker 1: Twenty two year old tree is Savage, twelve strikeouts.

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Speaker 3: Dennis the back rimmed it, rebound Leo and Nie Smith

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Speaker 3: as time expired. Players leaped into the air to get

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Speaker 3: game winning three. Facers come close, but they are zero

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Speaker 3: and four now for the first time since nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: The night there was in the world of sports, as

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Speaker 1: far as we're concerned here in Indianapolis, terrific World Series

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Speaker 1: performance by a really young pitcher last night, and the Pacers,

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Speaker 1: as you heard Mark Boyle talking about, right there, came

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Speaker 1: oh so close. Good morning everyone, you've made it to Thursday.

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Speaker 1: The start of another week of the National Football League

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Speaker 1: comes your way later on to night. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Cults back to practice yesterday. Good morning, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd,

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Speaker 1: Mark Dyketon. First thing I got to tell you about.

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Speaker 1: We had the first week of the Indiana Central Indiana

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Speaker 1: perfect game last night. He had two seventy going into

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Speaker 1: the tenth frame. He gets strike number one, he gets

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Speaker 1: probably have never been to any of these things. There's

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Speaker 1: And his name is Hayden Schmrecker. I'm not making that

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Speaker 1: to say thanks to Hayden. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Matt's Harry like Electric Factory.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. The kids were into.

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Speaker 1: What's cool is as it's happening. All the kids that

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Speaker 1: really cool to see the other kids really invested in this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually have been one of my good friends

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Speaker 4: holding Witcher are one of the greatest bowlers in Cathedral

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Speaker 4: High School history. It is a quite the atmosphere there

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Speaker 4: at Woodland Bowl, so shout out. I always enjoyed the

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Speaker 4: national anthem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they always take you the whole thing for.

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Speaker 2: A couple of turkeys. There is under Pete Webber. Right,

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Speaker 2: there's school Jeff. Uh he went to Ah.

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Speaker 1: I wrote it down because I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: it before the show is over because I was so

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Speaker 1: caught up into the kid himself. But I want to

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Speaker 1: also say hi to Terry, to one Ben, a bunch

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Speaker 1: of other parents that I met there. We just had

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Speaker 1: a great time, and you guys have fans. People come

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Speaker 1: up to me, they go, love this show, Love Kevin,

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Speaker 4: And James Kerrie Hayden into the laser tag after he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really fun. So it was cool. So

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Speaker 1: Series game, the Indiana Pacers, and I thought the Pacers

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Speaker 1: then true Pacer style. They were kind of gutty last night, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: They stayed in there.

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Speaker 4: He could probably say that about every game so far,

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Speaker 4: shots just now don't go in this year because in

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Speaker 4: could really feel it if you missed watching it last night,

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Speaker 4: Mark Boyle and Eddie Yale's description, But James Boyd, that

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Speaker 4: was as wide open as you're gonna get in that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's struggling. He is not shuting the ball well

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Speaker 5: Forend Tony East who said he's already missed five free

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Speaker 5: And I honestly thought this shot was going in because

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Speaker 5: I believe this is the second worst start in Pacers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's we've talked about the schedule, We've talked about

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Speaker 1: Me he's played four NBA games if I've been me.

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Speaker 4: as James said, zero to four for the first time

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Speaker 4: since eighty nine, James, you covered the Pacers what.

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Speaker 5: Year twenty twenty one, twenty two when they were tanking

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Speaker 4: So you weren't even covering the Pacers the last time

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Speaker 4: they shot at that poor from the floor April nineteenth,

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Speaker 4: They shot it as bad as they did last night,

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Speaker 5: You know what I think the correlation there is is

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Speaker 5: sorry the Pacers had yesterday. It was G leaguers and

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Speaker 5: can't throw it in the ocean. We'll just double team

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Speaker 5: Big reality check, I think for this team to kind

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Speaker 4: Guys rising on the scouting report. Now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think it's going to be tough

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Speaker 1: interesting couple of nights for the Indiana Pacers, and of

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Speaker 1: all that. This morning, it came to me while we

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Speaker 4: Were they still the Quakers? I believe they are a

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Speaker 4: lengthy Colts injury report we need to get to.

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Speaker 1: Say, well here, where'd that whole list come from? Out

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Speaker 4: I think some of it is just, hey, you've played

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Speaker 5: So the only one was listening as rest I was

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Speaker 2: Everybody else has legit injury.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see exactly what the availability looks like here

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I got done with work yesterday and I was

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Speaker 1: morning to you. We got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Close but no cigar for the Indiana Pacers last night.

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Speaker 1: All right, Pacers play against the Atlanta Hawks tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers college basketball. Last night, more exhibition games

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Speaker 1: Happy Thursday morning to you. We got a lot to

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Speaker 4: in for him, who has had a really rough start

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Speaker 4: to the season, in particular last.

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Speaker 1: Night PACER's fall oh and four and James it seemed

438
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Speaker 1: like everything about that game was yeah, but for the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: You look at Pascal Siak and we had twenty seven points,

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Speaker 1: thirteen rebounds. Yeah, but he really struggled from the free

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Speaker 1: throw line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, miss five free throws, miss fourteen shots. Aaron E.

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Speaker 5: Smith two of sixteen, He missed fourteen shots. Matthew is

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Speaker 5: correct here for Jared Walker, he was five of nineteen,

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Speaker 5: so he missed fourteen shots. And so I'd like to

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Speaker 5: kind of retract what I said earlier about some of

447
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Speaker 5: the two way and G League guy's name, you're not

448
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Speaker 5: shooting the ball as well as they should have. They

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Speaker 5: were okay, you know, even Mack McClung in a few

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Speaker 5: minutes and his Pacers debut was fine, but your top

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Speaker 5: guys in that starting lineup just couldn't buy a basket.

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Speaker 5: And when you're, you know, playing on the margins like this,

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Speaker 5: you can't have nights like that shooting the ball.

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Speaker 1: All right, Pacers play against the Atlanta Hawks tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: It'll be Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors at

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Speaker 1: the field House on Saturday evening. You can hear all

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Speaker 1: of those games right here in ninety three five, one

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Speaker 1: oh seven five the Fan and if we do want

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Speaker 1: to look ahead, the Milwaukee Bucks and the return of

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Speaker 1: Miles comes Monday. So a lot going on with the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers college basketball. Last night, more exhibition games before

462
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Speaker 1: the season gets started at the Hinkelfield House, Butler easily

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Speaker 1: cruised past Indiana State one oh five to eighty at Finley.

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Speaker 1: Bizjack had twenty four points in that one. Purdue the

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Speaker 1: number one ranked team in the country going into the season.

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Speaker 1: No problem with Indianapolis ninety two to forty nine. Last night.

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Speaker 1: Jakari Harris had twenty points, Fletcher Lawyer had sixteen. You

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Speaker 1: get a chance to see any of those two games, we.

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Speaker 4: Should mention that Mada now tomorrow with us here typically

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Speaker 4: Thursdays at eight thirty with that MADA, but it'll be

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Speaker 4: tomorrow with Ham.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I watched the Purdue you India highlights. I think probably

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Speaker 4: the thing that stood out to most was Jakari Harris.

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Speaker 4: I think most of our audience knows, but that is

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Speaker 4: the son of Glenn Robinson. Really a nice game for him,

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jacobson key off the bench for Purdue. And that's

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Speaker 4: the thing that I feel like we probably aren't talking

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Speaker 4: a lot about this Brew team, is what happens if

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Speaker 4: those sophomores take a jump. You know, obviously the big

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Speaker 4: three is the Big three Smith, Lawyer and Trey Kaufman Ran.

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Speaker 4: I know several people have mentioned their transfers Oscar Clough

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Speaker 4: omer Meyer, But you know, those sophomores, you know CJ.

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Speaker 4: Cox played a big role for him last year. What

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Speaker 4: if you see some sophomore leaps from them so much

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Speaker 4: better in their friendly confines, obviously easier competition, and Purdue

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Speaker 4: was pretty much in full control throughout.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to say that Carmelo Harris the Greyhounds

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Speaker 1: had nineteen points last night. So that was a nice

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Speaker 1: performance against the number one team in the country. And

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Speaker 1: college basketball is coming very soon for the regular season

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Speaker 1: starts for a lot of folks next week. All right.

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball last night Game five of the World

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Speaker 1: Series in Los Angeles, And how about the Blue Jays

495
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Speaker 1: taking two of three at Chavez Ravine this week. They

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Speaker 1: started off with back to back home runs to begin

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Speaker 1: the game last night. As you had Davis Schneider and

498
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Speaker 1: then Vlad Guerrero go yard. They never look back. They

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Speaker 1: win by a score of six to one. But what's

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Speaker 1: amazing brand new baseball fan James Treya Savage. Seventeen months

501
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Speaker 1: ago he was pitching in the College NT DOUBLEA tournament

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Speaker 1: for East Carolina. This past year he went from A

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Speaker 1: to Double A to Triple A. He made his major

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Speaker 1: league debut on September fifteenth, and he's had two double

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Speaker 1: digit strikeout games in the postseason so far.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he broke my lifelong Dodgers fan hard of the

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Speaker 5: last three days. So yeah, anytime you can have performance

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Speaker 5: like that, and also when your offense can start the

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Speaker 5: game with back to back home runs, I mean that

511
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Speaker 5: usually is a sign of good things to come for

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Speaker 5: this Blue Jays team. That's really bounced back. I mean

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Speaker 5: to lose game what was the game three and the

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Speaker 5: fashion that they did and to bounce back over the

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Speaker 5: last two and take the lead in this series shows

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Speaker 5: how resilient that group is.

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Speaker 1: Losso last night, the top four hitters for the Dodgers

518
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Speaker 1: could only muster one hit. Shoheo Tani was zero for

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Speaker 1: four last night. I mean, yes, Savage just shut them down,

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Speaker 1: just an amazing postseason performance. They will play is Game

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Speaker 1: six and seven Friday night and Saturday night, respectively, back

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Speaker 1: in Toronto. Anything else you want to throw in right

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Speaker 1: now besides the Colts injury report, Kevin Bowen, because it

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Speaker 1: is lengthy after yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the guys that missed last week, the defensive

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Speaker 4: ends still yet to practice. That'd be Sampson, Ebacom, Taekwon Lewis.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if they need a new punt returner for Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Gould left of the knee injury he missed yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I would say three of the bigger ones would be

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Speaker 4: Grover Stewart with a foot, Knit Cross with a shoulder,

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Speaker 4: Josh Downs with a hip. All three of them missed

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Speaker 4: due to those ailments yesterday. I would say those are

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Speaker 4: three pretty notable players, so we will certainly monitor their

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Speaker 4: status again. The Wednesday injury report, I've always said is

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Speaker 4: it's like filling out the first assignment in a college course.

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Speaker 4: It probably means what ten percent of your semester grade.

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Speaker 4: The Thursday injury report that's kind of a midterm. A

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Speaker 4: Friday injury report that's kind of the final exam. So

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Speaker 4: progressively gets a little bit more inten here, But yeah, James,

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Speaker 4: I would say the lengthiest Wednesday injury report maybe the

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Speaker 4: entire season.

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Speaker 5: Yes, for sure. And I'd like to just sam My

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Speaker 5: Condoles's to Mac Gonzolvez in his family. He posted yesterday

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Speaker 5: on Instagram that his father, William died. We don't know

545
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Speaker 5: the details within that, but obviously when it comes to family,

546
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Speaker 5: the status of him playing Sunday might be a little

547
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Speaker 5: bit murkier than it was, which is understandable given the circumstances.

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Speaker 5: So thoughts and prayers with him going through a difficult time.

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Speaker 4: And I'll obviously echo that, and also at I would

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Speaker 4: assume this game means a lot to Matt considering he

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Speaker 4: has a Pittsburgh guy. You know, played in that very

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Speaker 4: stadium in college.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: His post yesterday had several pictures of him and his

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Speaker 4: dad from his collegiate days. So certainly prayers with the

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Speaker 4: Gonzalvez family, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, We wish the best for him and everyone else

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Speaker 1: surrounding his family, And also will tell you the NFL

559
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Speaker 1: continues tonight. Week nine starts the Ravens play at the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson expected to return to the lineup piece miss

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks with an injured hamstring, so

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Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on that all right.

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Speaker 4: Coming up in just a moment, we got to mention

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Speaker 4: the retirement of Marco Andretti. When you think about the

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Speaker 4: name Andretti and you think about what it means over

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Speaker 4: there at IMS. I know we had Doug bolls on

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Speaker 4: earlier this week, but certainly goes without saying what that

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Speaker 4: last name means. He announced yesterday no longer at the

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Speaker 4: age of thirty eight will he be racing. And the

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Speaker 4: Indy five hundred, you know, has been a one off

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Speaker 4: for him, and you think about obviously two thousand and six,

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Speaker 4: it goes without saying what that could have been for

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Speaker 4: the nineteen year old in that very race. You know,

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Speaker 4: he's on the poll just a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 4: and I get at times there probably I wanted to

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Speaker 4: be more from a two underlap performance standpoint there, but

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Speaker 4: I think I saw Kurt Gerald's mentioned the first time

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Speaker 4: we won't have an Andretti in the five hundred since

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Speaker 4: nineteen sixty four, which is just astonishing. And for those curious,

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Speaker 4: Marco did announced yesterday memoir about his life defending the

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Speaker 4: Dynasty will be coming out soon.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. Thanks keV. Anything else James for

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Speaker 1: you before we wrap it up here. That's all I

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Speaker 1: got all right. Coming up in a moment, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: more about the Pacers game last night and a really

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Speaker 1: interesting couple of games coming up over the next few days.

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Speaker 1: Right here on ninety three five and one, Mark coming

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Speaker 1: through early on a Thursday morning.

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Speaker 2: Here you go, there's a bitching now it's been played.

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Speaker 2: It's a cool show. You should check it out. Man,

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Speaker 2: if I knew where to stream it at these days,

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Speaker 2: you need to.

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any DVD player anymore.

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Speaker 1: I need a DVD play. You can watch it all

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Speaker 1: kinds of there's all kinds of channels to play Magnum

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Speaker 1: Yet Tom Selleck vehicle, and that vehicle was the star

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Speaker 1: of that one of the stars of the show too.

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Speaker 1: Then get your VH be kind rewind shout out to

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Speaker 1: my Grandma ball fit. You can't record over it?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? That's what they always said. I was

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Speaker 2: always confused by that anyway.

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Speaker 1: But Mark continuing today to play some TV themes as

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Speaker 1: we did yesterday, and we got a lot of reaction

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Speaker 1: from that. People like that looks like, I did you

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Speaker 1: put out the whole list like you always do yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Sundance channel apparently has Magnum p I reruns. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I get that channel. I have to

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Speaker 2: look that up.

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Speaker 5: The sun Dance Channel, that sounded like something I would

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Speaker 5: dict to to watch a Round of thirty two game

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Speaker 5: during the tournaments.

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Speaker 4: Say if they ever expand the tournament, sounds like we'll

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Speaker 4: get games on that.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: So, the Indiana Pacers still looking for a win.

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Speaker 1: Last night. They they came close but couldn't quite get

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Speaker 1: it done against the Dallas Mavericks. And we'll take a

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Speaker 1: look back at that game as the Pacers playback is

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers cnjwater dot Com. We saw some G

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Speaker 1: League type players, but we also saw just tough free

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Speaker 1: throw shooting, tough shooting night for the Pacers all the

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Speaker 1: way around. And the chance was there for him because

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis left the game early after a few minutes

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Speaker 1: and Kyrie Irving was not playing. Their number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg did play had a double double with fifteen

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Speaker 1: to ten, but I wonder how many opportunities like that

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Speaker 1: that the Pacers are going to get as we roll

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Speaker 1: through the season here.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, I mean, I guess Friday, we'll see about

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Speaker 4: Tree Young's status. But you know he left last night,

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Speaker 4: so you know, potentially he could catch a break there.

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Speaker 4: And let me throw in the caveat. I fully understand

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Speaker 4: the Pacers are in a far worse injury situation, but yeah, honestly,

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Speaker 4: I thought the last night the G League guys gave

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Speaker 4: you more than you could have asked for. Frankly, I

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Speaker 4: thought the game really turned in a positive direction for

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Speaker 4: the Pacers when Quintin Jackson and ray J Dennison, even

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Speaker 4: Mac McClung got in there in the first half and

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Speaker 4: they built a double digit lead, and you know, really

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Speaker 4: it was kind of you, your starters that shot it

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Speaker 4: really poorly. And I guess it's not the most shocking

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Speaker 4: thing because you know, for the case of Nie Smith,

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Speaker 4: Walker Shephard, those three in particular, they've never been this

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Speaker 4: high on the scouting report in their NBA lives.

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Speaker 5: No now, and to that point, Kevin, I think also

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Speaker 5: we can go back and look at it and shout

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Speaker 5: out to Kaitlyn Cooper, who is incredible when it comes

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Speaker 5: to Pacers basketball covers. For basketball, she wrote, I'd encourage you,

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Speaker 5: I'll to check out her work, but she's kind of

654
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 5: laid it out there, especially with like clips and things

655
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: like that. Just the shot quality you get when it's

656
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 5: not Tyrre's Halliburn running your offense, they.

657
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: Look a little unorganized. Yeah, with so Shepherd, I wouldn't

658
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: mind seeing a point guard with the starting unit. I

659
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Speaker 4: get that. If you were listing your five best players,

660
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: Ben Shepherd is one of them right now. Yeah, but

661
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: I think ray J, Dennis Quintin, Jackson mac McClung, whatever

662
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: you want to do, one of them, probably ray J

663
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: one of them with that starting unit, and it might

664
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Speaker 4: be too big for them in the starting line right.

665
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: But Shepherd's just I mean, he wasn't a point guard

666
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: at uh what Belmont for somebody un say Bradley bs Belmont,

667
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: So you're asking him to play out a position and

668
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: he's usually kind of your tenth energy guy. So that

669
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: might be And again maybe that's not going to solve anything,

670
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: but really it was your starting lineup that was the

671
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: issue for you last night there. So yes, I would

672
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: say your offensive flow, particularly in the half court, is

673
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: a far far cry, which isn't too shocking.

674
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Speaker 1: You guys talked about the kind of a roller coaster

675
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: ride for Jeris Walker. He did score twenty points, he

676
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: had six rebounds, he was five of nineteen from the floor,

677
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: did shoot the free throws well at six for seven,

678
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Speaker 1: and a chance for him to start racking up some

679
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: minutes and finding out what he can truly do night

680
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: in and night out in the NBA. This is a

681
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: golden opportunity for him as we go through all these injuries.

682
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, this benefit somebody like that. And what

683
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: did you see overall from Jeris Walker last night?

684
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Speaker 4: Well, he made my heart do some things at ten

685
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: thirty on a Wednesday night that probably isn't too too

686
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: good for me.

687
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

688
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Speaker 4: Just roller coaster, That's how I would describe it. There's

689
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Speaker 4: no fear from him offensively, you do appreciate that aspect

690
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: to him. But James, it's just it's very up and

691
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: down with him. And you know, I met you on

692
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Speaker 4: yesterday's show. I'm really looking forward to If I can

693
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: look forward to anything with the Pacers right now, it

694
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: would be the Walker is going to get consistent clock

695
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: You would think for the next X amount of games,

696
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 4: X amount of weeks. But last night it was definitely

697
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: some great, great moments and then some moments of old

698
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: boy is at the shot selection and again I get it,

699
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: you're kind of backed into a corner here, But yes,

700
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Speaker 4: roller Coasters, how I would describe the Jaris Walker individual

701
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: performance from last night.

702
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, you look at the the skill set

703
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: he has allows him to a lot of different things,

704
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: but it's like, what things can you do well? And

705
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 5: guys who are able to do a bunch of stuff

706
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 5: but maybe not well, what benefit is that to the

707
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Speaker 5: team or to your game? And so I think that

708
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 5: again I go back to what I asked you yesterday,

709
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Speaker 5: Kevin about you know, how difficult is it for Jarris,

710
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: who worked on these things as far as shot making

711
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: and playmaking and all this stuff over the summer. How

712
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: hard is it to kind of take a step in

713
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 5: one area when all of a sudden you're being asked

714
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 5: to do so many different things where yes, you get

715
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: more minutes, you get more opportunity, but the opportunity isn't

716
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: funneled really anywhere right now. It's kind of just like, hey,

717
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: here's some minutes with a bunch of random guys, and

718
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: we'll ask you to defend, rebound, shot, create, and also

719
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Speaker 5: knock down the occasional three. So I understand, like maybe

720
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Speaker 5: why he's struggling a bit shooting the basketball and you know,

721
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Speaker 5: with his role. But at the same time, it's like,

722
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Speaker 5: what else do you really have in store for you

723
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Speaker 5: when you're so depleted and you are suddenly, you know,

724
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Speaker 5: guy number three on the scouting report.

725
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. Mark,

726
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever felt this way with

727
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: any of your children, but like watching Jaris Walker last night,

728
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: I felt like it was like watching Max bow and

729
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: get on the monkey bars for like the first time.

730
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, is this going to end well or horrific?

731
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: Like is he gonna make it to the other side

732
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: or is he gonna fall and crack his head open here?

733
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Speaker 2: That's how I'm watching Jaris Walker. The number of times

734
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Speaker 2: I've had to sprint across the playground because like, Dad,

735
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: I need help. I'm like, good lord, we're not going

736
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: to the er, so let's get let me run over there.

737
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Speaker 4: I want him to get stuck on the first bar.

738
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Speaker 4: I'm like, don't get to the third bar, because that's

739
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: when you know there are sharks in that water underneath

740
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: you there. That's how I feel about Jaris Walker of like, wait,

741
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: he's got the ball in this one on one situation

742
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: and there's like four in the shot clock. How is

743
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: this going to end? So yeah, it's it is an odd,

744
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 4: odd time to watch the Pacers. But I know probably

745
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 4: a large chunk of our audience was deep in rem

746
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: sleep of the final play last night. I I have

747
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 4: watched the old foul go to the line down three,

748
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 4: make the first, try to miss the second thing. I

749
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: don't know, probably one hundred times. I don't know if

750
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: I've ever seen a team get that good of a look.

751
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 4: James Aaroni Smith ran to the three point line. Did

752
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: you notice that?

753
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

754
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 5: So again set the scene and Pascal basically passed it.

755
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: I wonder if he would have got to assist for that.

756
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: He should have should have so, Ray j Dennis HiT's

757
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: a three down six you cut it two three, Dallas

758
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: comes down. They can theoretically ice the game with the bucket.

759
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: They don't score, Pacers get the rebound, and they didn't

760
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: have any timeouts. Knowing Rick Carlile, he probably just would

761
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: have let them play Dallas. Jason Kidd is going nuts

762
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: on the sidelines. By the way, I had no idea

763
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: I Frank Vogel was an assistant for the Mavericks. Shout

764
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 4: out to Frank Vogel, Jason Kidd's going nuts. He gets

765
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: his team to foul Dennis with what I don't know,

766
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: five seconds, six seconds to go in the game. So

767
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: ray J goes to foul line, hits the first free throw,

768
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: which is obviously task number one, and as he's getting

769
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: ready to shoot the second free throw, I'm sitting there

770
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 4: thinking to myself, here comes Aaron E. Smith flying in

771
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: from behind the arc alla of the Cleveland game. That's

772
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Speaker 4: what I thought would happen, you know, like if you're Dallas,

773
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 4: I don't know how much they went into the scout.

774
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 4: That's pretty deep into the scout. But like we're used

775
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: to Aaron E. Smith being the high flying circus sack

776
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 4: on these, you know, miss free throws. Ray J misses

777
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: the free throw and I'm watching Nie Smith and he

778
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: immediately sprints to the right wing, which I'm like, whoa,

779
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: He's not even going for the rebound here. So it's

780
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: like a mini scrum and as James said, there Pascal

781
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: Siakam is sandwiched in this scrum. I'm pretty sure he

782
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: got his palm on the ball tips it out to

783
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: Nie Smith, who got a in rhythm pre game or three.

784
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no other way to describe it as

785
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: a line to right, perfect for the camera angle. Everything short,

786
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 4: just short, and it doesn't go in. There were so

787
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: many crazy day April last year. That shot went in

788
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 4: one hundred out of one hundred times.

789
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: So many crazy things about that game. And I love

790
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: looking at box scores. It's one of my nerdy things

791
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: that I like to do. Craziest box score you're ever

792
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: going to see last night, the Pacers out shot that

793
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: just the number of shots they took. They took one

794
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: hundred and six last night compared to seventy nine for

795
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: the Mavericks. Now, the problem was they only hit on

796
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: thirty five percent of those. The Mavericks hit on forty

797
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: six percent of theirs. The other thing was crazy. You

798
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: talked about the free throws seven for the Mavericks and

799
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: just eighteen of twenty eight for the Pacers, and the

800
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Pacers out rebounded the Mavericks by five last night. I mean,

801
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: just all those metrics are crazy and a two point game,

802
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: you just don't see those kinds of numbers throughout the

803
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: box score for a close game. And still the Pacers

804
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to win it at the end and

805
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: just couldn't get it done. It was a weird game.

806
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again the foul shooting for the Pacers, like

807
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: you just sixty four percent from the line, So can't

808
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 4: be that. Time to regroup and we'll see if anybody

809
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 4: gets back. I want to say Taylor Peter was listed

810
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 4: as doubtful. You know, typically we get guys that are

811
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: at least doubtful questionable the game before they come back.

812
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: I believe he was the only one on that lengthy

813
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: injury list. They showed an overhead shot of the time out.

814
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: At one point there were more dudes in the street

815
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 4: close huddle than they were in the actual huddle.

816
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: It's not good.

817
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: You had like a huddle of McConnell themhard Toppin's hair

818
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: looked great last night, by the way, I know he's

819
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: capable of that. Matherin Furfey. You all of them in

820
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: the street clothes huddle never a good sign. And that's

821
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 4: more bodies than that than there are in the actual

822
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: bench huddle.

823
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: All right. So the Pacers next couple of games, though,

824
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of work to do. They got

825
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: Atlanta tomorrow night, They've got Golden State on Saturday with

826
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: Steph Curry coming to town, and then the return of

827
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: Miles Turner on Monday, and then Wednesday they play Brooklyn.

828
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: So the next next four games, that's what you're looking

829
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: at for the Pacers. James R.

830
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: Colleague Eric Name, going to join us here coming up

831
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: at nine to thirty. We had him on during the

832
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: Pacers Bucks series last year. I want to say we

833
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 4: maybe even had him on right after the Miles Turner signing.

834
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: I can't recall specifically, but I believe he had a

835
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: report earlier sometime in the offseason. Again, the Turner deal

836
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: from Milwaukee, I believe was four years, one hundred and

837
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: seven million when it was all said and done, and

838
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: I want to say he had a report where the

839
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: Pacers never offered more than three years. I think the

840
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 4: number was sixty six million. So we'll have Eric confirmed

841
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: that when he joins us coming up at nine thirty.

842
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: But you know, do the math on that. I mean,

843
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: that's what twenty two million a year that ain't anywhere

844
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: near well and obviously on here. Yeah, so I think

845
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: there are a lot of questions about Hey, would Miles

846
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: have given the pace? Did Miles give the Pacers a

847
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: chance to count? You know all the he said? She said,

848
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 4: So we'll have eric On coming up, and little.

849
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: Somebody offers me one hundred million plus the first time.

850
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 5: I'm saying yeah, I'm not waiting for anybody else to

851
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: match it.

852
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Hey. One other thing, I think that game to One

853
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: Night Atlanta is a Commissioner's Cup game? Is it not? Yes,

854
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah, so that's their first.

855
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: So do they do like? Is that the boom Baby Court?

856
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 5: Is it different this year?

857
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 4: I don't know. I believe it is. I remember seeing

858
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: a picture of it and I loved it. But I

859
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: can get confused very easily on which courts and which

860
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 4: jerseys teams are rocking.

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00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: I just wait and find out what it is when

862
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: I show up. I don't but they look cool. Pacers

863
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: Playback presented by C and J Water, the official water

864
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: treatment partner of the Indiana Pacers. C and Jay Water

865
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Speaker 1: Check them out. Indianapolis Colts get back to work yesterday.

866
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: Long list of guys that did not participate. We've talked

867
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: about that just a little bit, but they do have

868
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: a road game coming up against Aaron Rodgers and the

869
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, and he's just got to keep

870
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: it rolling. One of the things I noticed over the

871
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: last two days, as you know, every Tuesday and Wednesday,

872
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: trying to fill space, a lot of these sports sites

873
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: they start, you know, who's your midseason MVP, Who's the

874
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the year, Who's the rookie of the year,

875
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: who's the offensive Lineman of the year. A lot of

876
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: Colts showing up in a lot of places. Quentin Nelson

877
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: get in love for the offensive Lineman of the year,

878
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor obviously offensive player of the Year. One thing

879
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: I noticed, and we talked about it with the Odds yesterday,

880
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Mark was as far down as Daniel Jones is. I'm

881
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of people start the narrative now that well,

882
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is doing great, but also kind of like

883
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: he did when Saquon Barkley had that breakout year with

884
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: the Giants, was his best year? Is it because there's

885
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: so much pressure being taken off him from out the

886
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: rest of the offense, and I feel like that doesn't

887
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: deserve to what Daniel Jones has provided James. I think

888
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: he's been a key Cogan in this success so far.

889
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: He's been one of the ten best quarterbacks in football

890
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 5: this year, and probably higher than that, and I think

891
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: ten is just like a safe number. But if he

892
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: told me he's the top five quarterback this year, I'll

893
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 5: probably be like, Okay, well show me the others who

894
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 5: are played better. I don't think this is the Giant

895
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 5: season at all, really, because when they went to the

896
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: playoffs in twenty twenty two, I believe they were running

897
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 5: him a lot, and it felt the offense was more gimmicky,

898
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 5: where it's like, all right, we're gonna do a lot

899
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 5: of zone read stuff, RPO stuff, and in English terms

900
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 5: for those listening, it means basically, we're going to design

901
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: a bunch of plays that utilize our quarterbacks legs and

902
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 5: mobility more so than his arm. Whereas with the Colts,

903
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: he's not been a runner, thankfully, because every time he

904
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 5: runs it doesn't seem always in well, he takes a

905
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 5: hit and you know, learn a slot like Michael Pyman

906
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: Junior did last week, which was pretty funny. But getting

907
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 5: back to the point, his ability to push the ball

908
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: down the field is unlike anything we've seen in his

909
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 5: career with the Colts. And then on top of that,

910
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: taking care of the football. I mean, this is a

911
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 5: dude who had a ton of turnovers when he played

912
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 5: for the Giants. I want to say it was almost

913
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 5: a one to one ratio as far as, like you know,

914
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 5: games played and turnovers committed throughout his career with the Giants.

915
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 5: And you look up this year and he has three

916
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: turnovers versus I think thirteen touchdown passes and a couple

917
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 5: of rushing touchdowns as well. And so if you tell

918
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 5: me that you're going to be at the end of

919
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: the year at about twenty six touchdowns and six interceptions,

920
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 5: give or take, that's a great season for a quarterback,

921
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 5: especially one especially here in Nadianapolis, where you've been searching

922
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 5: for a stable answer at that position basically since Philip

923
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: Rivers retired in twenty twenty.

924
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: James, I know Shane Stike, and I gives kind of

925
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: the boring answer when asked what is the most impressive

926
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: thing offensively, he just says points, which he's as impressive.

927
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: I must say it's the goal is that wrong?

928
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: They are certainly scoring a ton of points. Is there

929
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: anything that you've come across Nerdy stat wise, and I

930
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: know a lot of this you know, can get kind

931
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: of fed to us, that has truly stood out about

932
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: the Colts offensively.

933
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 5: Points per drive three point six to four, So they're

934
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: averaging more than a field goal a drive. And if

935
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 5: you go back and look at the last twenty five years,

936
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: if you were to take this and extrapolate it over

937
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: the entire season and they stay at this pace, they

938
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: would have the most potent offense per drive of anybody

939
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: in the last twenty five years. And think of some

940
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: of these offenses. This is better than the seven Patriots.

941
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: Now granted through the first eight games, the Patriots were

942
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: like a tick better I think to the first eight games.

943
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 5: But again, if the Colts hold this average over the

944
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 5: entire season, it's better than any offense we've seen. That

945
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 5: includes all the Payton Manning years in the early two

946
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: thousands or mid two thousands, That includes the Tom Brady

947
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 5: year with Andy Moss when they went undefeated in the

948
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 5: regular season and nearly went undefeated for the entire season.

949
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 5: That includes, you know, some of those Philip Rivers offenses

950
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 5: with Antonio Gates and Danny and Thomlinson. So that, to

951
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 5: me is probably the most alarming stat I've seen, because

952
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 5: it's just absurd to score at that rate. But then

953
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: you and then also keep in mind they don't have,

954
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: in my opinion, a superstar on offense outside of Jonathan Taylor.

955
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: It's just that they have a really good quarterback, a

956
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 5: superstar running back, and a bunch of like B plus

957
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 5: receivers who are balling out as well.

958
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they have a future star at tight end.

959
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: If he's not a star.

960
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 5: Uh good, good point. Yeah, I honestly think that he's

961
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 5: first team off Yeah. A couple ones and I would

962
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: echo that as well. But the one that Colts sent

963
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 5: out on Sunday about the red zone, they've scored a

964
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 5: touchdown or field goal in sixty eight straight red zone trips.

965
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 5: That dates back a full year now, so you go

966
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 5: back to last year, even with all of that offensive

967
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 5: issues last season. According to the Colts, that's the longest

968
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: streak for an NFL team, dating back at least to

969
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three, So I mean it could go back further.

970
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: It's just I guess how the whatever the stat database

971
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 5: goes back to and then the one that's a little

972
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 5: bit more easier for everybody to understand, including myself. They've

973
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: scored at least twenty in every game, and that I

974
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 5: think the weekly consistency is probably what really stands out.

975
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: In the one game they scored twenty was the Rams,

976
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: and you had a dude drop a ball in the

977
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: goal line, so you know.

978
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: That, you know, the whole leading the league is scoring.

979
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: That can get a little skewy at the end of

980
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: the season. You know, did your did Riley Leonard get

981
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: in the game and lead a touchdown driver too?

982
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: You know?

983
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: Does that get you know, do you score fifty two

984
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: in a game?

985
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: You know?

986
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 4: Are you a pick six in excuse me, they're a

987
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: little voice crack, I'm so excited for Halloween?

988
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: A little pick six a camp ward late in a game?

989
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 7: You know?

990
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 4: Does that help you? Kind of skew the points? He

991
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: scored at least twenty in every game. Only team in

992
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 4: the league to do that. Add some context around it

993
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: that also stands out.

994
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: Here are your point outputs so far for the Colts

995
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: thirty three, twenty nine, forty one, twenty seven to twenty.

996
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: They lost then when they only scored twenty there forty

997
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty eight thirty eight. That's wild in the NFL.

998
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: That's wild consistency in the NFL. Now the road rises,

999
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: the grade gets a little steeper here in the second

1000
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: half of the season. As we pointed out, you know,

1001
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: it's always going to be a tough I don't care

1002
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: what anybody says. You expect a tough road game in Pittsburgh.

1003
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: It's just that's kind of how it is, right, We

1004
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: expect that it'll be a tough game just because it's

1005
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: a road game. I don't know, I know, I don't know.

1006
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh has lost defense stinks. Pittsburgh is lost at home

1007
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 4: by double digits twice this season.

1008
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: Then then, of course they're going to Germany, and you're

1009
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: now worried about getting to Germany? Is that what I

1010
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: heard this morning?

1011
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: James?

1012
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 5: No, I'm never worried about gaming anywhere. Right booked up

1013
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: sounds good. No, I was saying as far as the

1014
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: true Oh god, we're asking me like when I'm getting

1015
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 5: over there, But yeah, never worried it. I mean, hey,

1016
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 5: the plane will get there when it gets there. I mean,

1017
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 5: I'm not one of those ones who really get mad

1018
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 5: at delays or whatever. It's like, don't put me in

1019
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 5: the air if there's you know, unsafe possibilities up there.

1020
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: Just don't leave me on the tarmac for six hours.

1021
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: That's all I want.

1022
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 5: Hey leave me there if it means stand alive.

1023
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: I'll be honest. That weather at Colts practice yesterday I

1024
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: had me thinking I was in Germany.

1025
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it's an outdoor stadium, and they told

1026
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 5: us it's an outdoor press box as well, similar to

1027
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 5: last time. So last year I remember having to have

1028
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 5: the gloves and the hat on because it might have

1029
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 5: been about fifty degrees and maybe a little bit lower

1030
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 5: as the game went on. But I mean overall, it's

1031
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 5: a good environment. So I'm looking forward to that experience.

1032
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 5: Talking to Bernie actually yesterday about that left tackle Bernard Rayman,

1033
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 5: and he was telling me, who'll have a lot of

1034
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: family there as well, And he was encouraging me to

1035
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 5: go out and see Berlin because he said it's a

1036
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 5: more touristy city I guess than Frankfurt.

1037
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: I'll take his word for it.

1038
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: I told him, Hey, you're talking to a guy who

1039
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 5: only been across the pond once in my life, but

1040
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 5: it was good to catch up with him yesterday.

1041
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1042
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: Obviously historic stadium in Berlin there, but yeah, first game there.

1043
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: And overseas are always weird. So I don't want to

1044
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 5: just credit this Falcons matchup and say all the Falcons

1045
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 5: they've been up and down this year, it's an easy win.

1046
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 6: No.

1047
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 5: I feel like every time you go overseas, the game

1048
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 5: is either a'll blowout or it's like very very close.

1049
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 5: I think it's weird and it's ugly. Yeah, I don't

1050
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 5: try that to be hot. I was to take the

1051
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 5: under one pretty.

1052
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 4: Much, and the Colts will play you know, I was

1053
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 4: sitting there or sitting there at practice yesterday and again

1054
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 4: it was I mean, we all experienced it. It was

1055
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: what forty eight degrees in spitting rain yesterday in Indy.

1056
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: The Colts will play five of their next six games outdoors,

1057
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: which is kind of unique based off the schedule they've

1058
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: had so far. So again, obviously a trip to Pittsburgh,

1059
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: trip to Germany, you come back, you're at Kansas City,

1060
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 4: you got a home game with Houston, and then at

1061
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: Jacksonville and at Seattle yesterday looked like Seattle whether too.

1062
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: Probably that was wild when they said on the last

1063
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: game that other Colts will be back a Lucas ould

1064
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: Staium in November thirtieth, I'm like, what, yeah, right, and

1065
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: then after that.

1066
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: Mark they aren't at home again until December twenty second.

1067
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: Crazy.

1068
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is you know, if there's one big change

1069
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: for the Colts upcoming, it is where they will play

1070
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: these games. You will be playing many more of them upcoming,

1071
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: either out like outdoors and road environments. I get Berlin

1072
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: as not you know it's actually the Colts home game,

1073
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 4: but that is what is upcoming. Here is tonight elimination

1074
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: game for one of these two teams? Can we right off?

1075
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: Like hell?

1076
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: Probably a lot of people have already written off the

1077
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. Is tonight an elimination game for the Ravens.

1078
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: I think you've only got two wins so far, and

1079
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 1: we're getting we're getting to the point where what wins

1080
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: they get to seven?

1081
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't think so.

1082
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 4: The AFC North might be a nine win division.

1083
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the Steelers are taking a

1084
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: step back a bit, and I think I mean the

1085
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: Ravens are still the betting favorite to win the division.

1086
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: It only two wins and they still.

1087
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Again if they lose, that's going to be crazy.

1088
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, the Ravens are still the betting favorite to win

1089
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: the AFC North. I'm trying to check to see what

1090
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: the odds are since this morning, but yeah, they were

1091
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: as of yesterday, they were still the betting face to

1092
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: win the division. It's just two wins well, which is insane,

1093
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 2: but that shows you the state of the division because

1094
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: the Browns stink. The Bengals don't have Joe Burrows, so

1095
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 2: that's not looking very good, and you know, the Steelers

1096
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: seem to be taking a step back. The Ravens are

1097
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: minus one twenty five to win the AFC North. They're

1098
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: two and five, right, No, that's absurd. I would say

1099
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: if the Dolphins lose, that's pretty much it because obviously

1100
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: the Patriots are having quite the resurgence. The Bills are

1101
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: the Bills, and I'm the Jets stink, but I don't

1102
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: think I don't think three teams from the AFC Easter

1103
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: are getting in there. But if the Ravens lose, I

1104
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: don't discount that the Ravens are still gonna win the division.

1105
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: Now, again nine thirty today, we usually have Jason Hammer Mark,

1106
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: if you want to pull up a little bit of

1107
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: that info. Usually we have him getting a set for

1108
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: Thursday Night football nine thirty, Eric name, who covers the

1109
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: Bucks for the Athletic and join us talk Miles Turner

1110
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: and making his return here to Indiana coming up on Monday.

1111
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 4: Jason Hammer on vacation Mark. But he did send in

1112
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 4: his play, Oh he did.

1113
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: Yes, he sent them to me yesterday from the Sunshine State.

1114
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: Maybe a tease of.

1115
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: One or two of them for our seven o'clock audience

1116
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 4: for tonight.

1117
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: Sure, do you want the main bet that he sent me?

1118
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: Or do you want some of the prop bets? He said, Sure,

1119
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: let's go main. The main bet, he said, was over

1120
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: fifty and a half in the game. We're cheering for points,

1121
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: Dolphins cheering for points. Boy, fifty is a big old number.

1122
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: That's a huge number for a Thursday night too.

1123
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: He said. Lamar should be back and both defenses stinked.

1124
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: The Ravens are thirtieth in the scoring in scoring defense

1125
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: and Dolphins twenty ninth against the run. Lamar back, that

1126
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: will be what we are banking on, hopefully getting it

1127
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: close to the offensive effort we got from Miami last week.

1128
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: Fun fact the last two years and the Ravens are

1129
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: road favorites and the over under is forty seven and

1130
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: a half or more, they are cashing seven and oh

1131
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: they're undefeated when the over under is forty seven and

1132
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: a half are higher.

1133
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: The only pushback I'd have on that is, if Miami

1134
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: is so bad against the run, maybe this is the

1135
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: week the Ravens really try to get Derek Henry going

1136
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: again and take a little pressure off off Jackson was

1137
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: returning from a hamstring That.

1138
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: Could be too. But you also hopefully get some big

1139
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: time rushes from Derrick Henry and some end zone trips,

1140
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: so that would also boost the numbers.

1141
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: I feel like we needed Derrick Henry highlight where he

1142
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: just pummels somebody three feet into the ground on the way.

1143
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: To the end zone, one of those stiff arms that

1144
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: just sends that guy flying like you did a few

1145
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: years ago.

1146
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 4: Yes, so we have a drop set for Halloween tomorrow,

1147
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 4: the twelve year old just stiff Arman, the seven year

1148
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: olds as they're moving house to house.

1149
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: We have a couple of prop bets we can get

1150
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: into later as well, some Colts bets as well, so

1151
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: we can dive into more Jason Hammer plays as the

1152
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: show rolls along. By the way, speaking of running backs,

1153
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs Halloween costume, huge fan, big Big, Jeff Hardy,

1154
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Jeff Hardy, thea that was fantastic. All right, coming up

1155
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: in a moment more from the cults and practice.

1156
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 4: I think Mark enjoyed maybe the significant other.

1157
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a very good lead in Mark tried

1158
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: to escape.

1159
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 4: You brought us right back Inbs really looked good.

1160
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, I did watch that as this video is

1161
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: six hours long.

1162
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at it over and over and

1163
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: over again, it is all right. More in a moment

1164
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: here as we continue in ninety three five one oh

1165
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: seveny five of the fang.

1166
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 8: Let's talk.

1167
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: You may have to help me out on this one.

1168
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: Mark, you are definitely out of the demographic for this one.

1169
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: But this is one of my all time favorite shows

1170
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: on Nickelodeon, Grown Up The Adventures of Pete and Pete

1171
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: an all time great show. I wish you could find

1172
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: it streaming anywhere. You can't. You can only buy like

1173
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: the DVDs on Amazon for like eighty dollars and stuff.

1174
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 2: But an all time fantastic show and a great theme song.

1175
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: I love the fact you've researched it enough to know

1176
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: that it's eighty dollars because.

1177
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: I love that show. I would love to watch it again.

1178
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: And you cannot find it anywhere. It's not on Paramount,

1179
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: it's not on any streaming service. You can find it

1180
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: on YouTube, I guess, but I guess there's like music

1181
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: licensing issues, which is why it's hard to get. But

1182
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: it was a great show, great great show, great cameos.

1183
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: Oh Mark.

1184
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: We were a figured out or doubl edayer fan, a

1185
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: big fan of Summer Sanders.

1186
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: Wild and crazy Kids.

1187
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: Yep.

1188
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: I was actually at when I was a kid, and

1189
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: we went to Florida the one time we went to

1190
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: like Disney when I was a kid. It was like

1191
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: the summer of ninety four or whatever. We went to

1192
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: a taping of Uh, what would you Do with Mark

1193
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: Summers And we're in the back of the audience and

1194
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: we had like Neon Green Nickelodeon hats on me and

1195
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: my two brothers, and the camera actually came up to

1196
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: us in a commercial break and we were like make

1197
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 2: I was making silly faces. It's like, oh my god,

1198
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna be on TV. We're gonna be Nickelodeon. This

1199
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: is gonna be incredible, and my parents are like, yeah,

1200
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: your brothers were like having frowning faces, and sure enough

1201
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 2: that episode aired. You could see our hats in the background.

1202
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: That camera cut to me right in the middle of

1203
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: the camera. Happens. Never happened. Because my brothers had a

1204
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: grumpy face on.

1205
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 4: I thought we were gonna have an IMDb babe.

1206
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: No, I said, come on, guys, so time to shine.

1207
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: You're at Nickelodeon. What are you frowning about? Turn those

1208
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: frowns upside down?

1209
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: They didn't. You reminded me of Mark Summers, who was

1210
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: always fun to watch when he would host some of

1211
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: those Nickelodeon shows. I looked him up. He is seventy

1212
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: four years old.

1213
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: He was just that Victory Field a couple times earlier

1214
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: that he didn't they promo him now. Mark Summer's big

1215
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: fan also spells with the sea, spells it the right way. So,

1216
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: speaking of crazy kids, big Mark, You've been delving through

1217
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: some audio for some people about their Halloween experiences. Kurt Signetti,

1218
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: Shane Stiking Maybe might play those tomorrow. Maybe Rick Carlisle,

1219
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Rick Carlisle did not appreciate your question though, Well,

1220
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: he acknowledged it. He acknowledged it. Didn't appreciate it though, Yeah,

1221
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: which is fine. Not everybody's a big Halloween guy. But

1222
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, one thing I appreciate about Rick is always transparent.

1223
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 7: You know, exactly appreciate the question, but I acknowledge the question, does.

1224
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: Not appreciate it. Again, that was me in high school.

1225
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: Every girl I liked, I appreciate you asking, I will

1226
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: not acknowledge her. It is hard, No, but you found

1227
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: the one. Yeah, it took a while. Well, no, I

1228
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: appreciate the ask, the prom but no.

1229
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, mmm, I've ever seen have you ever had the

1230
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 5: person that ask somebody to promise and they said no?

1231
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 5: I don't think I saw that in he I don't

1232
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 5: think so either.

1233
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: I think that's what you.

1234
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: Imagine that during the passing period.

1235
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you gotta know she's got to say it

1236
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 5: around the hallway. Yeah, that's like the I mean, I

1237
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 5: would liking it. Probably to asking your wife to marry.

1238
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 5: You want to make sure she says yes.

1239
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I feel like, you know, move

1240
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: comedies back in the day, whatever they like made you

1241
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: afraid that you're Yeah, yeah, this happens way more often

1242
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: Apparently they're like, oh, you're asking the cute girl to

1243
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: go out, and she's going to reject you in front

1244
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: of her friends or something embarrassing. I'm like, that didn't happen,

1245
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: at least not that I'm aware of.

1246
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: I was very lucky in high school. I don't have

1247
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: to go through that because I had the same girlfriend

1248
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: all through high school. Oh and into my first year

1249
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: of college too.

1250
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: Look at that again.

1251
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 5: If he come in tomorrow with a black eye, Christine.

1252
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 5: We tried to. We tried to, you know, remind him

1253
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: that no other woman existed before you got married. But hey,

1254
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 5: he just won't learn.

1255
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: Oh I haven't gotten beat up yet, so let's put

1256
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: it that. She mostly you have to understand my wife.

1257
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: She would just roll her eyes. They're like, yeah, good luck.

1258
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 5: And my pops told me, what do you say? But

1259
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 5: my mom, this this guy is hilarious. Uh oh, he's

1260
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: tell He told me. He was like, look, man, don't

1261
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 5: ever get discouraged if a girl tells you know, hey, no,

1262
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 5: I'm not interested. He was like, you know, how many

1263
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 5: fine women turned me?

1264
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: Definitely?

1265
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 5: Mama said yes, and then she, you know, went on

1266
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 5: this whole rant about how I'm the finest woman you

1267
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 5: haven't met in your life.

1268
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess it worked out well for him.

1269
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: It works.

1270
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: It always works out.

1271
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know what was your what was your

1272
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: dating experience in high school? Like Kevin Bowen, I think.

1273
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: Me and Mark were both standing up on the side

1274
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: of the wall whatever that Rick Carlisle response was, I

1275
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: think it's pretty para.

1276
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 2: But again, you met the one too.

1277
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: Par for the course, here she met that.

1278
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: We all got lucky. We all met the one, James,

1279
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: Eventually you'll meet the one.

1280
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one right now, give me some time. I

1281
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: always trying to figure out how the grinding advice from

1282
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: Jeff is probably something that really just makes some Morman

1283
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: fuzzy on this Thursday morning. The dancing in high school

1284
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: is truly ridiculous, the grinding stuff and the supervisors like nope,

1285
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: separate yourselves, Like how did that become a thing that

1286
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: was weird? I don't know if kids still do that.

1287
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: Probably not. Everything is, as I say, nothing new under

1288
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: the sun. Just put it like that, you put get

1289
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: low on and that place got buck wild.

1290
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids are like my kids go to dances

1291
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: like in groups like all their friend their friend group

1292
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: there's like ten or twelve of them. They all go together.

1293
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: There's no not a lot of boyfriend girlfriend dynamic. They

1294
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Speaker 1: just have a bunch of friends.

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Speaker 5: They got to get dance circle. Yeah, and you know, yeah,

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00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: they like each other. That's why they hang out.

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Speaker 1: That's how that goes. We like the Indianapolis Colts this year,

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: don't we seven and one? They're playing well. We talk

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: about how well they've been playing, just to put it

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Speaker 1: into focus. I talk about this every week because it's

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00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the lead indicators of how

1302
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: well a team is doing in the National Football League

1303
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: week in and week out. What's your point differential? And

1304
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: there isn't anybody even in the same stratosphere as the

1305
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. The culture right now are a plus one sixteen.

1306
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: The next best team in the league is the New

1307
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: England Patriots at plus sixty seven, and then the third team,

1308
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: the Lions, at plus sixty four, and then then it

1309
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: just starts to degrade from there. It's insane the point

1310
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: differential right now. And it's not all in one big blowout,

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00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: it's several of them combined.

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00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they're playing outstanding football. And there are

1313
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 5: some stats when you look at and you got to

1314
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 5: explain all this different stuff. And I'm talking about points

1315
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 5: per drive, and you know, Kevin's telling us how many

1316
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 5: consecutive drives they've had in in the field goal or

1317
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 5: a touchdown. And then you just look at, okay, how

1318
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 5: many points do they beat everybody else by? And that

1319
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 5: can give you a clear picture of how dominant this

1320
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 5: team has been so far this season.

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Speaker 1: It's and then just look at the number of points

1322
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Speaker 1: that they've scored two two hundred and seventy. The Cowboys

1323
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: are only three and four have scored two hundred and

1324
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Speaker 1: forty six, but they they have given up You want

1325
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: to know how to not have a great record when

1326
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Speaker 1: you score two hundred and forty six points, give up

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: almost three hundred, that's what you do. So it's insane

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01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: that they've actually given up two hundred and fifty points.

1329
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Speaker 1: But it's I haven't seen this kind of dominance. It's

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01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: probably that you talked about that O seven Patriots team.

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: James Weed Stephen Holder on yesterday.

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Speaker 4: You know, he had said early in the interview he

1333
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: feels like, definitely I'm putting more than Steven's mouth, But

1334
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 4: I think you prem says, you're definitely the most complete

1335
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: team in the league, you know, et cetera. I followed

1336
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: up a little bit later in the interview of is

1337
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 4: it truly like a minus offense a minus defense complete

1338
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: or is it a plus offense and B minus defense right,

1339
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: because that's where I think it is. I think it

1340
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 4: is a utterly historic offense, like I cannot emphasize that

1341
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: enough flying colors, A plus the balance the personnel. Sure,

1342
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 4: if all of a sudden they hit a wall with

1343
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 4: their run game right now, who's to say the pass

1344
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 4: game is all of a sudden not going to pick up.

1345
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: It's slack vice versa. Whereas I think the defense still

1346
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 4: has room to grow. I might, you know, there might

1347
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 4: be some teams out there that have I don't know, Detroit,

1348
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 4: Green Bay, Kansas City. Maybe there are some teams out

1349
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 4: there that have a little bit more of a you know,

1350
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: Teeter Totter balance to their offense and defense. I look

1351
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 4: at the Colts right now and say, their offense is here,

1352
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: and I am putting my hand way above my head,

1353
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 4: and their defense right now has some room to get

1354
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: to a January level. Agree to disagree? What are your thoughts.

1355
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Speaker 2: Run that last part by me one more time.

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: I don't look at them as maybe the most complete

1357
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 4: balanced team in the league right now. I look at

1358
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: it as their offense is so fre can better than

1359
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: anybody else's offen to make sure understand where're coming from.

1360
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 4: That like that unit is so superior, is why they

1361
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 4: are seven to one. I think the defensive room to grow, Like,

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Speaker 4: are they an outright playoff defense? No, that would be

1363
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Speaker 4: my answer. Now, can they get there in the next

1364
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 4: two months. We'll see you in trade deadline in five days.

1365
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Speaker 4: All of that, I see teams that maybe have a

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01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 4: little bit more even offense defense, but nobody's sniffing the

1367
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Speaker 4: Colts offensively.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I could probably lean towards your perspective on that, And

1370
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Speaker 5: it kind of reminds me to give it a different

1371
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 5: feel of how a great basketball player. If you're a

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Speaker 5: great offensive player, you're more valuable to me at least

1373
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 5: than if you're a great defensive player, like because games

1374
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 5: officiating just because of your gifts or talents. For example,

1375
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 5: Steph Curry has never made an All NBA defensive team.

1376
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 5: Nobody cares because his offensive output and how he affects

1377
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 5: the game is so much greater than what you can

1378
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 5: do on the other end. And I'm not saying this

1379
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 5: is apple stapples type of thing. You want to see

1380
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 5: the coach defense improve, but their offense is so great

1381
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 5: that if you just get moderately better you can almost

1382
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 5: probably if you're looking at a realistic team who has

1383
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 5: a great offense and it's still kind of flawed, you

1384
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 5: just hope that your flaws aren't so fatal that it

1385
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 5: ruins what you have on the other side of the football. So,

1386
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 5: for example, if your defense, which is I think thirtieth

1387
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 5: right now and third down conversion rate and meaning other

1388
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 5: teams can at an extremely high rate on third downs

1389
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 5: against you, if you can just get to the middle

1390
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 5: of the pack, if you can just get to maybe

1391
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Speaker 5: not being thirtieth but around nineteen, if you can be

1392
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 5: around eighteen, that will be a huge dividend going forward

1393
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Speaker 5: for your group. And honestly, I think a lot of

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Speaker 5: this conversation was similar to how we've talked about the

1395
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 5: Pacers in recent years. It's like, okay and Grig Karla

1396
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 5: talked about it.

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Speaker 4: That's a really good way to put it.

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01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have scored, scored score, but if we can

1399
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 5: just get to the middle of the pack will be

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 5: really good because we know our offense. Nobody can hang

1401
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 5: with us doing that, so we can just the average

1402
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 5: on defense. I mean average in this sense still puts

1403
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 5: you in a great position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 4: I think that's a really, really good way.

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01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: To put it. You know, while we're talking about that

1407
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, there was one team that I that

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: I omitted by mistake all of a sudden, Kansas City

1409
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,479
Speaker 1: Chiefs are the second best point differential team at plus

1410
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: eighty three. They've won three games in a row, they

1411
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: have Rashi Rice back, and their defense is guys, been

1412
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: giving up the third fewest amount of points in the

1413
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: entire league. Are we seeing the resurgence of the Kansas

1414
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: City Chiefs becoming the Kansas City Chiefs again?

1415
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think we'd be foolish too. I can think

1416
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 4: of how many times I've just idiotically said to myself,

1417
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 4: this is it. They have to be done, and then

1418
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 4: they're not. So I'm gonna stop saying that and hopefully

1419
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 4: not be an idiot.

1420
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's hard to count out a team

1421
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: that has Andy Reid as head coach.

1422
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 4: And looks better than you did last year. You know,

1423
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 4: I think at times last year, it was really the

1424
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 4: others that had to do their part with it. They

1425
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 4: obviously made some offensive line moves in the offseason, James,

1426
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 4: you think Jalen Jones plays on Sunday? I know the

1427
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 4: injury report was lengthy. We can get to that here

1428
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: in just a second. Yesterday, Jalen Jones is practicing for

1429
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 4: a second straight week. In terms of the language on

1430
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 4: the practice report, he did progress from limited to full.

1431
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: He was limited all last week. He did practice full yesterday.

1432
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 4: I think he does play and start start.

1433
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 5: Honestly, he might because who was it last week that

1434
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 5: play while I'm playing on his name?

1435
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: Is it Cameron Mitchell? Yeah?

1436
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,959
Speaker 4: I think they're doing the kind of fifty to fifty

1437
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: split right now. So Kenny Moore is back, obviously, Makay Blackman,

1438
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 4: who they treated a six round pick four just before

1439
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 4: the start of the season. He's an outside corner. The

1440
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 4: other outside corner seems to be a split between Johnathan Edwards,

1441
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: who's at a couple penalties, and yes, Cameron Mitchell, who

1442
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 4: is probably the most obscure starting cult right now of

1443
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 4: anybody exactly.

1444
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 5: And to that point, I wonder if he could take

1445
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 5: some of those snaps and they feel more comfortable going

1446
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 5: with him even though he doesn't play. That's the other thing,

1447
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 5: Like you can be healthy with not in game shape,

1448
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 5: not in playing shape. And how much do you want

1449
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 5: to kind of ease him back into it versus just

1450
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 5: throwing him in the deepen and saying, hey, you're getting

1451
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 5: sixty snaps or whatever it is that they play on offense.

1452
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 5: And so I would imagine they do easing back in.

1453
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 5: He doesn't start and play the entire game, but you

1454
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 5: know what does that look like? And also considering Jalen's size,

1455
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 5: I wonder if he'll be someone that they look at

1456
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 5: and say, okay, we can you can help out with

1457
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 5: DK Metcalf or you can help out with some of

1458
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 5: these tight ends that have you know, really been really

1459
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 5: good this year for that Steelers offense. So that's something

1460
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 5: to keep in mind. So I wonder how much Lou

1461
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 5: was looking at the availability and the health standpoint, but

1462
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 5: also the ability that he has having a bigger cornerback

1463
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 5: which they really haven't had since he went down.

1464
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the game I thought, would scream Travariswards shadow. Yeah,

1465
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 4: like for our non fantasy football siccos out there, nobody

1466
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: can name another white out on the Steelers. You know,

1467
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 4: they just have a little bit of an obscure group.

1468
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 4: Tight ends is probably noticeable. But you know, again, he's

1469
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 4: going to be on your reserve here for at least

1470
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: a couple more weeks.

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01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: What do you think Aaron Rodgers still has left? I

1472
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: still think I worry about a game he's trash. Yeah,

1473
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: I know that you would say that, But do you

1474
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: worry about a game where he and DK Metcalf just

1475
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: get on the same page and they just rack up

1476
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen catches? I could like he used to do

1477
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: with DeVante Adams.

1478
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 4: Can we plant a kid in a Rogers Jersey at

1479
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 4: the dyked In House at about five forty seven pm tomorrow,

1480
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 4: Mark's looking for some dome.

1481
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: Wow, Like, don't come out here, have property, get off

1482
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: the land.

1483
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Ashley's telling Mark to stay on the couch.

1484
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh, that kid would not be getting any candy from me.

1485
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: I actually think Aaron Rodgers has got a little bit

1486
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 4: left in the tank than I thought he did. James,

1487
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 4: I thought that game last year against the Jets, I

1488
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 4: thought he looked dead. I thought he looked like a

1489
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 4: corporate He could move and not to use you they

1490
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 4: maybe that's the Achilles. I think it is the Achilles,

1491
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 4: because usually you brought that up a few weeks ago

1492
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, yeah, maybe I should just

1493
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,959
Speaker 4: give more credit to and did tears a cute.

1494
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: I know we're living in twenty twenty five, but I

1495
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: still think it takes a good eighteen twenty four months

1496
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: to come back from a really severe injury, especially when

1497
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: you're in your late thirties. Just think it takes a while,

1498
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: and he probably still doesn't move the way he used to.

1499
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: But the man, you know, it's almost like we used

1500
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: to talk about Darryl Green, the fastest man in the NFL,

1501
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: who played until he was forty two at cornerback. Because

1502
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: what happens when a guy that runs a four to

1503
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: two gets old and slow. Now he runs a four

1504
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: to three five, He could still play, and he knew

1505
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: how to play. Aaron Rodgers that arm is still an

1506
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: incredibly immense weapon that he can use, and he knows

1507
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: how to play the game. I think if they protect

1508
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: him at all, I still worry about a guy like

1509
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: DK Metgaal.

1510
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a couple of things I guess that

1511
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 4: are of concern. I think I guess I'll say now,

1512
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 4: I think Colts will win this game, and I don't

1513
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 4: think it's going to be overly stressful. But you know, TJ.

1514
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 4: Watt can wreck a game. He's been quiet for his

1515
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: standard this season, So say, Jim Hayward, stay away from

1516
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: those situations where Watt, you know, gets whatever single team

1517
01:08:59,040 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 4: downe a third down.

1518
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 8: Uh.

1519
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 4: And then offensively, yeah, there's a little bit more there.

1520
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: I think Jalen Warren is actually a really nice player there.

1521
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: Their lead running back and their tight ends Friarmuth was

1522
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 4: out yesterday from practice and their center was out. So

1523
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 4: just a couple of things to note from Pittsburgh.

1524
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: But John Smith is getting a lot of playing time

1525
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: there not there's.

1526
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 2: Probably a little bit more offensively than maybe their husband.

1527
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, go into that thinking that you got

1528
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: a really dangerous opponent. That's all I'm saying. You're going

1529
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: on the road to a stadium that could be I

1530
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: get it, but you just the NFL is a one

1531
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: week It's a one week league, man.

1532
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 2: I want knuck if you buck playing in my house

1533
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: on on Loop on Sundays, the host Butner's just pummeling

1534
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. I'll dance.

1535
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 5: I wonder way he got the grave digger sort of

1536
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 5: celebration from us by asking that. I don't know that

1537
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 5: I like that move though, that's solid.

1538
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 4: I've asked him at one point and I thought he said,

1539
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 4: you're I thought he said, I'm sweeping people out of

1540
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 4: the room. It's a sweep.

1541
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: It looks like he's shoveling.

1542
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 4: I know I could be wrong on thats.

1543
01:09:59,280 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: Be wrong on that.

1544
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 5: Other Wise before ist Buckner rich As he is never

1545
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 5: swept anything in his life.

1546
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 1: Wow, if that's.

1547
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: How you sweep, I mean, are you saying NFL players

1548
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: aren't sweeping their house? I'm saying.

1549
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 5: Right before, not my boy, buck he ain't got a

1550
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 5: sweet nine.

1551
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 7: Mark.

1552
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: Let's check.

1553
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: Thing actually strikes. There's a blue collar under this take out.

1554
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: The sweeper probably got a very neat household, all right.

1555
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: Talking about the Indianapolis cults, quite the lengthy list of

1556
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: guys who missed practice yesterday. What surprised you the most

1557
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: about that list, Kevin?

1558
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll point to Grover Steward, the foot, Nick Cross shoulder,

1559
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 4: Josh Down's hip. None of those guys left the game

1560
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 4: on Sunday due to injury, so you know they were

1561
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 4: the three. I guess, you know, unexpected a little bit there.

1562
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 4: So it's a Wednesday Andrew report. It's nothing to fret

1563
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 4: too much over, but we'll continue to monitor it as

1564
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 4: the week moves along. And if they do need a

1565
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 4: new part returner, what do you think Josh Downs part returner, James,

1566
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 4: if they need a new one. I guess Josh Downs

1567
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 4: is hurt amra dude.

1568
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, probably is a mer.

1569
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: I know.

1570
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 5: We talked to Brian Mason, the Colt Special Teams Corner

1571
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 5: earlier this week about that, and he mentioned a mere

1572
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 5: Abdulah having some of that in his background.

1573
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 4: He did it last year. He also brought up coleman Owen,

1574
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 4: who's on the practice squad. I guess you know, maybe

1575
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 4: if Downs and Gouldy're both out, so uh yeah, just

1576
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 4: something again to keep an eye on here. As we

1577
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 4: reached practice number two of the week.

1578
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's check out on the ide Hada Pacers

1579
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: last night, close but no cigar. Kevin that it was

1580
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: all right there for him despite their up and down

1581
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: troubles throughout the night. Not having a ton of guys.

1582
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: Aaron Nesmith had a wide open look at a three

1583
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: after a really interesting last few seconds and it just

1584
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: didn't go in.

1585
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Pacers down six late again, they're trying to

1586
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 4: make one of those comebacks we saw so often last year.

1587
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 8: Ray J.

1588
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: Dennis.

1589
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 4: It's a three, Dallas goes down, chance to ice the game,

1590
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 4: they don't. So now the Pacers down three, with the ball,

1591
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 4: no timeouts, Dallas fouls, they do the up three foul.

1592
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 2: Ray J.

1593
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 4: Dennis makes the first free throw, a perfect, purposely missed

1594
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 4: second free throw Pascal Siakam with a hell of an

1595
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 4: effort as the ball is being rebounded to tip it

1596
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 4: out to a very designed like Aaron Nee Smith sprinted

1597
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 4: to the three point line, wide open in rhythm pregame

1598
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 4: warm up right wing three, and unfortunately, like many Aeronie

1599
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 4: Smith shots last night, it did not go in. So

1600
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: the Pacers now own four for the first time since

1601
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty nine. And really their starters last night, I mean,

1602
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 4: I thought their g leaguers played pretty well, frankly given

1603
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 4: the bar of expectation there, but guys struggling to shoot it,

1604
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 4: all of them, all those starters, you know, especially n Smith,

1605
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 4: especially Walker, and especially Ben Sheppard.

1606
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: Do we ever learn any more about Anthony Davis, No,

1607
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: I never saw anything the rest of the night. Yeah,

1608
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: didn't play anymore.

1609
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 4: I got my eyes on the Pacers injury report. That's lengthy,

1610
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 4: is lengthy, Yeah, I don't Anthony Davis, Yeah, left left,

1611
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, left ankle, left leg, I don't know.

1612
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: Pascalciakram twenty seven points, thirteen boards, but he was struggling

1613
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 1: from the free throw line. Jeros Walker had twenty points.

1614
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: He had an up and down night as well. Number

1615
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: one overall pick Cooper Flag fifteen points and ten rebounds

1616
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: as the Mavericks survive one o seven to one oh five.

1617
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, the Atlanta Hawks come to town in a

1618
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: Commissioner's Cup game over at the field House. So you've

1619
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: got the Hawks in a Cup game on Friday, Steph

1620
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: Curry and Golden State on Saturday, and the return of

1621
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: Miles Turner on Monday when the Milwaukee Bucks come into down.

1622
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: That's quite the three coming up.

1623
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 4: Sounds that Tray Young very iffy for tomorrow night. He

1624
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 4: left last night's game and dared, I don't know if

1625
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 4: there's been a player in a while that I feel

1626
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 4: more confident about with the ball in his hands in

1627
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 4: the half court than Pascal Siakam, and then as least

1628
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 4: confident as I do when he gets to the foul

1629
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 4: line as Pascal Siakam. It's a little Barkley like. When

1630
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 4: he gets to the foul line, I feel like I'm

1631
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 4: watching Barkley's golf swing.

1632
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: That's that's rugged right there.

1633
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? I mean, I just I don't know that.

1634
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 4: I don't know anything that every time he goes to

1635
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 4: the foul line, I feel like, yeah, he's so good

1636
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 4: from eighteen feet, twelve feet whatever.

1637
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 5: I think it is a mental block. Honestly, it's got

1638
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 5: to be.

1639
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: One of the notes in the NBA. Wanted to point out.

1640
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: Last night, the Lakers beat the Timber was on a

1641
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: last second shot by Austin Reeves one sixteen, one point fifteen.

1642
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: He had twenty eight points, sixteen assists. Is Austin Reeves

1643
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: becoming a star in the NBA?

1644
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 2: James, Yeah, I would think so.

1645
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 5: He's got a fifty one point game this year, another

1646
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 5: forty one point game, twenty eight and sixteen, the game winner.

1647
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 5: He'll get a bag whenever he's up for his next contract.

1648
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: Man college basketball, Last night, more exhibition the Butler at

1649
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: home defeating Indiana State by a score of one ozh

1650
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: five to eighty. Finley Bisjack led the way with twenty

1651
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: four points. Perdue got twenty points from Jakari Harris and

1652
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: sixteen from Fletcher Lawyer. Braden Smith and Daniel Jacobson had

1653
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: ten points apiece. They easily ran past Indianapolis ninety two

1654
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: forty nine, though Carmelo Harris for the grounds at nineteen points.

1655
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: So nice night for him in a road environment up

1656
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: at the Purdue last night and Major League Baseball, Mark,

1657
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: did you stay up to watch any of that baseball

1658
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: game last night? Yeah?

1659
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: I didn't go to three in the morning, so I

1660
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: did watch a little bit more than I would have

1661
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: otherwise if it would have gone late.

1662
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: Back to back home runs to lead the game off

1663
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: for the Blue Jays. You want to talk about taking

1664
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: the air out of a stadium when you're on the road,

1665
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: That's how you do it in the World Series. Then

1666
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: you set up after home runs there to begin the

1667
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: game from Davis Schneider and Vlad Guerrero his eighth of

1668
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: the postseason. By the way, they turned over to Trey

1669
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: Is Savage, a guy who's been in the Major since

1670
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: September fifteenth, picked up his second double digit strikeout game

1671
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 1: in the postseason this year, and on the biggest stage,

1672
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: just shut the Dodgers down seven innings, one run, three hits,

1673
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: didn't walk a soul, and struck out twelve. I think

1674
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: the kids got a future.

1675
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a hell of a story. And you know,

1676
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 4: it's kind of wild how the postseason in baseball breeds

1677
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 4: a few more of these. You know, we'll climb the

1678
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 4: other night. Might I get that was eighteen innings that

1679
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 4: played into that. But yeah, just a really really cool story.

1680
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: Man.

1681
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 4: That place will be rocking tomorrow night north of the

1682
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 4: border there as the Toronto Blue Jays go for the clinch.

1683
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 4: Game six coming up tomorrow night. If there is a

1684
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 4: game seven, that would be Saturday night, also in Toronto.

1685
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 4: Doesn't take much. Take the air of Dodger Stadium, right,

1686
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 4: They have a lot of smog, not much air to

1687
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 4: begin with.

1688
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: See what I did there?

1689
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: I see Do you get the joke?

1690
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: Kevin?

1691
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 4: I don't see you laughing? I would say, did you

1692
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 4: get the joke again? Did you hear Jeff's laugh? I

1693
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 4: mean that was the most sympathetic laugh I've ever heard.

1694
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: It was I was trying to help you out, Mark,

1695
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: but not really.

1696
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 4: That was the nicest thing.

1697
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of smog. Is this thing on a

1698
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: lot of smog? Tomato? Tomato, James throw that banana.

1699
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: We had a major announcement from the Speedway yesterday, not

1700
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: really from the Speedway, but about Indy Car.

1701
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to Marco Andretti retiring from Indy Car.

1702
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 4: The Indianapolis five hundred. You know, he's done the one

1703
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: off now for couple of years here. I mean when

1704
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 4: you think about near missus and I don't know if

1705
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 4: there's anything from a local I get, you know, Gordon

1706
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 4: Hayward shot and Haliburton Game seven, But what could have

1707
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 4: been in two thousand and six when that teenager passes

1708
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 4: his dad and looked like he was going to hold

1709
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 4: off Sam Hornish there for the win. It's one of

1710
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 4: the more epic sporting events and finishes I would argue, ever,

1711
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 4: certainly in our state's history there, he pointed out, kind

1712
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 4: of in true Marco fashion, But I was kind of astonished.

1713
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 4: He pointed out in his statement that he has more

1714
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 4: podium finishes than his father and the same as his grandfather,

1715
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 4: which at the five hundred I would not have guessed

1716
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: that there, so I don't know a little jab and

1717
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 4: his dad and shout out to his grandfather, who I've

1718
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 4: done the two seater with and is an absolute legend

1719
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 4: there so wild Kurt Jeralds had this stat. Shout out

1720
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 4: to the great Kurt Geralds. No andreting the five hundred

1721
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 4: for the first time since nineteen sixty.

1722
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: Wow, sixty one years that's crazy.

1723
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: Only thirty eight years old. Marco twenty.

1724
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about something in college football

1725
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: coming up in just a second here, So we'll do

1726
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: that as Indiana and Purdue get ready to finish their

1727
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: seasons on opposite ends of the scheduling spectrum. Obviously, we'll

1728
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: do that in a second, as we can get to.

1729
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 4: A little horse game between Change Styke and Daniel Jones

1730
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 4: at some point.

1731
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: So you think we're gonna do that too. That's coming

1732
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: up next to ninety three five and one of seven

1733
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: five the fans.

1734
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes you wonta go where everybody knows your name, always

1735
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 4: match a came. You want to be where you can

1736
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 4: see all the same. You want to be where everybody

1737
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 4: knows your name.

1738
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: Who are people that have never been in my kitchen? Alex,

1739
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: You remember that one, Mark, No, I know you're referencing Cheers,

1740
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: but I don't. Cliff Claven finally gets on Jeopardy and

1741
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: he's going for all and final Jeopardy doesn't know the answer.

1742
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: It's a it's a question about several people, and so

1743
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: he just says, who are people that have never been

1744
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: in my kitchen? Alex and he loses it.

1745
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 5: All.

1746
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: That was a good show, great theme song. I remember

1747
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: my parents watching the show back in the day. It

1748
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 2: was a good one all time classes.

1749
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess as a Chicago and your favorite character

1750
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: was Norm.

1751
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: Of course Umbers wouldn't love Norm.

1752
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: That wasn't really his character. That was a Saturday Night

1753
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: Live skit.

1754
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's super fans but same guy. Yeah, George went.

1755
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we lost him not too long ago, right earlier

1756
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: this year.

1757
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: I think i'd have to look that up.

1758
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: You ever ever get yourself familiar with Cheers?

1759
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: James Nope, never heard of it, never even heard of it,

1760
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: not really never heard of this. Oh wow, he died

1761
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: earlier that May twentieth, earlier this year.

1762
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 4: For those not following. Last couple of days, Marcus been

1763
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 4: playing It's a famous show re entries here. So I

1764
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 4: just out of the blue right mark, nothing is the

1765
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 4: TV show day and you'll rip off your calendar and

1766
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 4: tomorrow's watermelon Day. Lots of sleepless nights.

1767
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 2: I just said, I'm like, what are these were joiners

1768
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: are gonna be No. I was just like, oh, I

1769
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: should do one of theme songs, and a lot of

1770
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 2: people liked it yesterdays, so it's like, Okay, I'll run

1771
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: it back because obviously there's a lot of iconic theme

1772
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,799
Speaker 2: songs from shows, so let's do it again today Tomorrow

1773
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: Surprise Surprise is gonna be Halloween themes.

1774
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 4: By the way, I know we've said this here in

1775
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. I love the NBA back

1776
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 4: in NBC in the round ball rock that we're getting

1777
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 4: Bob costas voiceover the other night. I forget what Bucks

1778
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 4: and six Bucks and Knicks, Bucks and Knicks about a

1779
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 4: midweek double header? Just awesome, awesome, awesome. Bob cost has

1780
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 4: been very gracious to join us here on these airwaves

1781
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 4: a couple of times over the last few years.

1782
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: So iconic there, and then I'll must lead him into

1783
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: coming on the air. I'm pretty sure I met.

1784
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: Him once at a speaking conference. One of the nicest

1785
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: like he was just for that couple of hours, just

1786
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: incredibly generous with his time, answering people's questions, hanging out

1787
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: with people, was incredibly kind.

1788
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it's niece at Iu and he joined

1789
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 4: us a couple of times. Get I believe I called

1790
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 4: this house phone one time. Yeah, so thank you to

1791
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 4: Bob Costas for that. And then I'm watching Cars the

1792
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: other night and there he is announcing lightning lightning McQueen.

1793
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: So shout out to mater, what's the movie on repeat?

1794
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 6: Queen?

1795
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: There you go, that's not bad. What what's the movie

1796
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: that's on repeat and loop for your kids? Because my

1797
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: kids would get fixated on a movie and they'd watch

1798
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: that same movie for a couple of weeks.

1799
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: So we'd get a nice rotation between like Toy Story,

1800
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 2: Shrek and sing Okay, K Pop, Demon Hunters and I know.

1801
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: And currently hocus Pocus is getting a lot of run

1802
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: because of the tis the season for Halloween's things. So

1803
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: uh yeah, hocus Pocus.

1804
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 5: Well, when I have kids, I'm gonna sit them down

1805
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 5: and they're gonna watch Mulan Ulan's the best classic movie,

1806
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 5: Great Jams, and that we'll probably one of my favorite

1807
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 5: movies of all time.

1808
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: Mulan, that is a great one. We were The Haunted

1809
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: Mansion with Eddie Murphy was on the other day and

1810
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 2: I was like, do you know who that guy is too?

1811
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 2: And they're like that sounds like the donkey from Shruck.

1812
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, it is the donkey from Struck. It's also

1813
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 2: the dragon from Mulan. There. He was great in that movie.

1814
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 4: I love the Donkey.

1815
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: U love it. I just loved Eddie Murphy. I loved

1816
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But yeah, no for ours. When my

1817
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: kids were little, cars and cars too, just forever, they

1818
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to watch them again and again and again.

1819
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:23,959
Speaker 2: Classics.

1820
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. Colt's getting back in action Sunday at Pittsburgh,

1821
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: and a lot's been made. People are starting to realize,

1822
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,839
Speaker 1: you know, they got a head coach, they got a quarterback,

1823
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: they got a maybe an all time great running back.

1824
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: But this relationship between Shane Stike and Daniel Jones, like

1825
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: they not just on the field, but they kind of

1826
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: dig each other, don't they like hanging out?

1827
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's set the scene a little bit here. James

1828
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: Boyd asked this to round out the press conference yesterday.

1829
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 4: You know this is back when Shane was with the Chargers.

1830
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: You know, later in the.

1831
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers era, the Chargers were doing their due diligence

1832
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 4: on trying to find that next quarterback. They would typically

1833
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 4: work out, you know, the top whatever five or six

1834
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in each draft class. They didn't take Daniel Jones.

1835
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 4: They actually had a really late first round pick when

1836
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 4: Jones came out. They ended up taking Justin Herbert a

1837
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 4: year after that. But Shane definitely recalls going to Durham

1838
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 4: to work out Daniel Jones. And Shane had one request

1839
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 4: for the College Daniel Jones back.

1840
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 9: Then, one of his things we had to get done.

1841
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 9: So when I called him, we went out there and

1842
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 9: obviously you send them the many playbook and you go

1843
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 9: through the stuff, be.

1844
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: Ready to roll.

1845
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 9: And I said, but you got one real job. Make

1846
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 9: sure we get into that Cameron indoor so we can

1847
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 9: play horse.

1848
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: And he said all right.

1849
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 9: And so we got there and we did the workout

1850
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 9: and I said, you get that thing set up.

1851
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I got it.

1852
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 9: So we got in there and shot around a little bit,

1853
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 9: and then we went in and talked ball a little

1854
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 9: bit and obviously just killed all the stuff we sent

1855
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 9: him didn't miss anything. Very cerebral. Watch game tam with him.

1856
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 9: He was phenomenal. You know in that process.

1857
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: Was there a point in the evaluation like okay, Canny,

1858
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 2: get me on Cameron Indoor. Is that like, okay, this

1859
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: guy solve problems.

1860
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 8: Who's he done?

1861
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1862
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 9: Absolutely, that's what was. That was one of the main things,

1863
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 9: like you got to get us in there. You know

1864
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 9: what I mean, you're the quarterback, starting quarterback there. Let's

1865
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 9: let's get that done. And sure now, I mean the

1866
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 9: football facilities right next to Cameron Indoor. So sure enough,

1867
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 9: he got it done and he passed the test with

1868
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 9: flying colors.

1869
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 4: James twos and ones to eleven. Who you got quarterback first?

1870
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 7: Head coach, I.

1871
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 5: Gotta go with the young guy every time a route. Yeah,

1872
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 5: he's smoking Shane.

1873
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them is a professional athlete.

1874
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1875
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 5: And also Shane Stike can come on now, he did

1876
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 5: play Vision one football, come on now.

1877
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, you know had his day.

1878
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 5: But I think the age gap is probably there with

1879
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 5: Shane's about what forty yeah, Dale's twenty eight, I think. So, yeah,

1880
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 5: one guy's playing football every Sunday. I would take the.

1881
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 4: Till that's a JMV with some of the youngsters out there.

1882
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: That's a cool thing.

1883
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: I love JAMV.

1884
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 5: If we played one on one, it would not end

1885
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 5: well for him just because of the age gap.

1886
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: Does he having to wear an ace bandage or like

1887
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: a knee brace or anything? Mark, do you want to clip?

1888
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 6: Say?

1889
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 1: He may, he may want to make it. You just

1890
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: make it, take it and they just shoot you to death.

1891
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 4: Twos in one's James Boyd JMV to eleven the score

1892
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 4: be what I'll go eleven six man, yeah, route not

1893
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 4: even close, but I'm yeah, I'm come on now, we

1894
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 4: got to think about if he's young.

1895
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 5: If this is young JMV shooting like that, he's beating

1896
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 5: me because he can shooting and move and all that.

1897
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 5: But I'm like lateral quickness, get into the basket, moving

1898
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 5: to moving the puppies.

1899
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 4: Come on now, have you seen them before and after pictures?

1900
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: This man is?

1901
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 4: This man's darren Sproles these days with how yeah, I'll

1902
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 4: say switchy he is, but you know, yeah, Ron Dane, baby,

1903
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 4: I don't think I say anything disrespectful. It's it's honestly

1904
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 4: how you should feel.

1905
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm twenty nine.

1906
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,560
Speaker 5: I'm not losing to a guy who's my height and

1907
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 5: my size, who's in his what is he in the fifties?

1908
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 2: Is Jamie in his fifties?

1909
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,799
Speaker 1: So I always think about those guys though, in pickup

1910
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: games on Saturday mornings at the why they're like fifty

1911
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: years old and they're where and two knie sleeves and

1912
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: a and an elbow sleeve and all they do is

1913
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: just knock down twenty footer after twenty footer after twenty

1914
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: footer and then never listened, and they never missed, and

1915
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: they never get off the court.

1916
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1917
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 5: I think the guys that we play with in all

1918
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 5: seriousness are very smart, like five or five players, but

1919
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 5: just one on one when it takes like especially if

1920
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 5: it's like you miss, you get your own rebound type

1921
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 5: of thing.

1922
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, now, got to go with youth.

1923
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 5: So in the case of Shane's tyking in Daniel Jones,

1924
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 5: I'm going with youth. But I will say, when I

1925
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 5: asked who won the horse contest, Shane gave the old

1926
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 5: answer of I don't really remember.

1927
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 4: You lost.

1928
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 5: Anybody who can't remember get out news they.

1929
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 4: Lost, And then he tried to like backtrack and be like,

1930
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 4: I think I won, and then As soon as you

1931
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: said that to start off, I will say, if people

1932
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 4: care Shane, I know again they did.

1933
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: The Chargers had a really late first round pick that year.

1934
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones went six to the Giants.

1935
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 4: But Shane pretty blown away by Daniel Jones from a

1936
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 4: you know, recall standpoint, and you know, I think the

1937
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 4: mental acumen was something that definitely set out to him,

1938
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 4: and obviously their relationship. Then what seven years later, six

1939
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 4: years later, here you go two football nerds, loving life

1940
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 4: and playing chess on Sunday. So everyone else is playing.

1941
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: Checkers seven and one, getting ready to go on the

1942
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: road to Pittsburgh see if they can finish up the

1943
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: first half of the season. That's crazy to think that

1944
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: at halftime we'll be exactly halfway through the NFL season.

1945
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: It just flies by, all right. Coming up in a moment,

1946
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: we'll talk college and pro football a little bit more

1947
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: on the Pacers in their game last night. What they've

1948
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: got ahead. It's a busy day at ninety three five

1949
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: and one O seven five. I don't know Kevin College

1950
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: shotten Freud, but I am reveling in the misfortune of

1951
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 1: the LSU Tigers and their dismissal of Brian Kelly and

1952
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: all the fallout and everything that's come with it, and

1953
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: they're one of the open jobs that everybody thinks, you know,

1954
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's going to go there with this. That The

1955
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: other thing I had mentioned the other day that one

1956
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: of my bad guys of the week was Scott Woodward,

1957
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: the guy who had fired Brian Kelly. Now, because he

1958
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: had fired Brian Kelly, this is a guy that was

1959
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: responsible to Jimbo Fisher getting a seventy six million dollar

1960
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: buyout followed up by a fifty four million dollar buyout

1961
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: to Brian Kelly. And the Louisiana Governor stepped in yesterday

1962
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: because LSU's a state run school. It's a state school,

1963
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: and he said Scott Woodward will not be selecting the

1964
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: next head coach. This is a guy that's given out

1965
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty five million dollars in in

1966
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: go away money. We can't afford that here. So I'm

1967
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: putting together a committee and they're going to find the

1968
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: next coach. I'd rather have anybody besides Scott Woodward find

1969
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: the next coach. I don't even know how you keep

1970
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: your job when you're the guy that keeps giving money

1971
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: like that away to people to go away. How does

1972
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: that work? He clearly's not getting the job done. Can't

1973
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: find the right guy.

1974
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1975
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 5: Honestly, I'm trying to figure out how to get the

1976
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 5: same profession in my life. I'm able to think it

1977
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 5: everything I do and get paid a lot of money.

1978
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,440
Speaker 4: Wait, so can the governor just so this is Louisiana

1979
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 4: State University? Is that correct?

1980
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: That's what it is?

1981
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 4: So could Mike Brown step into Indiana State right now

1982
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 4: and just all of a sudden say, Hey, I'm hiring

1983
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 4: the football coach.

1984
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you can. Can you? Is that how

1985
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: it works the state? It's a state school, he's the guy.

1986
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: He's the guy that runs the state.

1987
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1988
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 5: That does not sound like it's I don't know if

1989
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 5: it sounds right.

1990
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: But the governor Louisiana feels he's got that power.

1991
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 2: I tell him the kick rock.

1992
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 5: I was going to say, there's a lot of people

1993
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 5: who aren't a lot of places who say things that

1994
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 5: are interesting.

1995
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Uh, he says, quote No, I can tell you right now,

1996
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Scott Woodward is not selecting our next coach. Landry told

1997
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: reporters during a news conference at the State Capitol in

1998
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: Baton Rouge. He said the LSU Board of Supervisors will

1999
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: assemble a selection committee to find a new coach, but

2000
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: Woodward won't be a part of it. If the governor

2001
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: has his way, well.

2002
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 2: Then they might as all fire him then because what's

2003
01:29:58,680 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: the point of him being an ad stuf.

2004
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 7: Still, I really wish.

2005
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 4: We could flip the November schedules for Indiana and Purdue.

2006
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 7: Here.

2007
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 4: Have you seen this Purdue schedules in the year.

2008
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: It's Big Ten?

2009
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 4: But man, it's Purdue on their way to another winless

2010
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 4: Big Ten season. They'll end at Michigan home to Ohio

2011
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,919
Speaker 4: State at Washington home to Indiana.

2012
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: I'd love for them to beat Michigan, but I just

2013
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: don't see that happening.

2014
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see that going well for Barry Odams

2015
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 4: squad at all there, and then Indiana ends the year

2016
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 4: with I believe the four teams have a combined one

2017
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 4: Big Ten win at Maryland on Saturday, at Penn State

2018
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 4: home to Wisconsin at Purdue. I mean this point, for Indiana,

2019
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 4: it's just stay healthy until the quarterfinal game.

2020
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 1: Right you'd think, so you just just don't go, you know,

2021
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: make sure you go in eyes wide open against Penn State,

2022
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: because although they've been a disaster this year, they do

2023
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 1: have talent. I mean, there is talent on that football team.

2024
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: They fell apart and they'll probably continue to fall upon.

2025
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, something tells me kurtz Signetti will have in

2026
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: his kid's mind, he'll have Penn State out to be

2027
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: another playoff game. Don't you think the way he approaches things.

2028
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's always cooking up something there.

2029
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2030
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Somebody put out a social media thing last night where

2031
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: they matched the look on his face at a particular

2032
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 1: point in an Indiana game over the last two seasons,

2033
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: and it showed him like grimacing, growling, very unhappy. The

2034
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: next slide you'd show it and it would say that

2035
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: they were ahead forty to thirteen, And there were like

2036
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 1: eight examples of that where he was just not in

2037
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: a good mood. And then you'd find out when that

2038
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: picture was taken on his face what the score was

2039
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: in that game, and inevitably they're up by like thirty points.

2040
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 4: I'll be really curious. And I think we had this

2041
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 4: debate a little bit before the Big Ten title last

2042
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 4: year between Ohio State or not Ohio State. Between Oregon

2043
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 4: and Penn State, and I think it could apply even

2044
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 4: more to Indiana and Ohio State this year of like

2045
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 4: outside of the Big Ten championship, which I mean, I

2046
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 4: guess is an accomplishment, what really is there to play

2047
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 4: for for Ohio State in Indiana? Like, aren't you both

2048
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 4: looking at buys? Hasn't the committee said that maybe the

2049
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 4: conference championship games don't carry as much weight. Are you

2050
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 4: really gonna punish it?

2051
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 2: I hate that.

2052
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,560
Speaker 4: Are you really going to punish in Indiana team? For

2053
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 4: because they beat Oregon they get to play an extra game,

2054
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 4: for example, whereas Oregon gets to sit on their couch.

2055
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 4: So like what I mean again, a big time championship maybe,

2056
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 4: and for Indiana's football history obviously that matters, But like

2057
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 4: for Ohio State, probably doesn't really carry that much weight

2058
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 4: to them. I mean, really, all you're doing in that

2059
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 4: game if both teams are getting buys and it's hard

2060
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 4: to really like, is there that big differen between the

2061
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 4: one seed and the three seeds?

2062
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: Well, especially if both going to that game undefeated. It's

2063
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: a close game, right I'm saying both teams went out, yeah,

2064
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: and they have a close competitive game.

2065
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't think the close competitive game matters that much.

2066
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Let's say one of them wins thirty one to thirteen.

2067
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Does that hurt the seed? And why should Okay, let's

2068
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: play this out. Let's say Indiana beats Ohio State thirty

2069
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: one thirteen. Why should Ohio State be punished for having

2070
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 1: to play an extra game? It's just recentcy biases. All

2071
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking.

2072
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't know where Oregon doesn't have to play an

2073
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 4: extra game.

2074
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,799
Speaker 1: Well, Oregon shouldn't get in ahead of them, Yeah.

2075
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 4: Right, But that's the difficulty with these conference championships. So

2076
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 4: the whole bye I think is like, how much will

2077
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 4: that game truly for the winner of Indiana Ohio State

2078
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 4: outside of winning the Big Ten championship? What does winning

2079
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 4: that game do for you? In all likelihood you're both

2080
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 4: the top four seed and you're both getting to buy

2081
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 4: and neither of you are getting a home game. You

2082
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 4: automatically get in the quarterfinal round of the bracket.

2083
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting dynamic because it's almost like you're in

2084
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 5: a way being punished for having so much success. But

2085
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, Kevin, I think this

2086
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 5: is one of those things where you have to sell it.

2087
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 5: If you're a Signetti and I'm sure he will if

2088
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 5: he's in an opportunity where it's like, we're gonna just

2089
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 5: win everything we can and to a degree, maybe use

2090
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 5: his motivation whether the community decides whether you lose or

2091
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,839
Speaker 5: WINNA lose that game, use his motivation whatever they decide

2092
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 5: coming off of it, bulletin, boar material, what have you.

2093
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, I've kind of always, not always because it's

2094
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 5: still relatively new when it comes to caall football player,

2095
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 5: but I have adopted that style of thinking of, you know,

2096
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 5: what is the right way to analyze a team when

2097
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 5: you earn the right to be in this game and

2098
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 5: you know, like you said, you're kind of being punished

2099
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 5: if you lose it.

2100
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a difficulty with the conference championships

2101
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 4: now and again some of them will have like an

2102
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 4: outright hey, you win and you get in, or you

2103
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 4: lose and you go home, right like that, You know,

2104
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:36,799
Speaker 4: there would be some operation.

2105
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 5: To me, feels a lot more. That's obviously substantial.

2106
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 4: That's different. But you know, for the Big Ten and

2107
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 4: the SEC falls under the same belt. The SEC is

2108
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 4: probably the better example of it this year because there's

2109
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 4: likely to be so many two and three loss SEC teams,

2110
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 4: you know whatever, Let's call it Bama against Texas A

2111
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 4: and M if they're in the SEC title game, and

2112
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 4: then George's sitting at home, and Vanderbilt sitting at home,

2113
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 4: and you know whatever, Texas is sitting at home. Whoever,

2114
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 4: they don't get another loss on that resume. It's just

2115
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 4: the committee clarifying. I think what exactly those games mean,

2116
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 4: I think.

2117
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 5: Is really difficult. But you know what, I also think

2118
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 5: this is part of the beast that is college football

2119
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 5: where I made this joke at the beginning of the year,

2120
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 5: one of the biggest pastimes of the sports just arguing

2121
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 5: over this type of stuff. And I think they enjoy

2122
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 5: that to a degree. They can't come out right out

2123
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 5: and say that, but I think they like this chattery.

2124
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 2: They like this man.

2125
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 5: They'd like back and forth because you're never going to

2126
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 5: have the uniform. This is what you have to get

2127
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 5: in criteria like it is for the NFL, for example.

2128
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 5: You want in your division. Everyone's in the same league.

2129
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 5: It's just not the same. And so that's my cop

2130
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 5: out answer for what you're kind of getting at, where

2131
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 5: it's like they like this, like they were arguing about

2132
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 5: it already before it's even happened because it creates more

2133
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 5: notoriety and fame for the sport.

2134
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, and I think that's one of the

2135
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: things you want to cross sports too, when you take

2136
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 1: it over to trying to get it in the NCAA

2137
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: turn it. We already expanded it as it is what

2138
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 1: we're at sixty eight. They're going to go to seventy

2139
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: two I think now, Kevin pretty soon, that's what they're

2140
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: talking about, and then even expanding it beyond that. At

2141
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: some point, do you still argue about let's let's say

2142
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: they expanded it to one hundred and twenty eight teams

2143
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: like they had talked about. Are we still having arguments

2144
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: at that point in time or do we lose that?

2145
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 7: Oh?

2146
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 4: I think we always are arguing. We're just arguing even

2147
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 4: you know, I almost said a cuss word, even batter teams.

2148
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 4: If batter is the right.

2149
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 1: Word it is now, I might adopt that. I don't

2150
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: think it exists.

2151
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 4: But when right, I mean, we just expanded. Okay, so

2152
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Speaker 4: let's say last year's tournament would have been expanded to

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Speaker 4: seventy whatever six, then we're arguing Indiana's resume from last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think there's a point. If there's a point,

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Speaker 1: if everybody one hundred and twenty eight, it feels like

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Speaker 1: everybody's getting in. You're you're trying to argue teams that

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Speaker 1: I would have got my Irish and less than five hundred.

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Speaker 4: I don't know arguing if Notre Dame or Butler would.

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Speaker 1: Have got in last year, and neither of them deserve

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 4: James is right on see college football's greatest gift might

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01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 4: be the ability to argue.

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01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 5: Because you're gonna feel slighted either way. I do want

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01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 5: to know though, going forward, and I would I would

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Speaker 5: think because if I use resume, how they play so

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Speaker 5: well so far, and I'm gonna get a break. But

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01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 5: real quick, how they will be viewed if they do

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Speaker 5: lose a game, whether it's the rest of the regular season,

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Speaker 5: whether it's the you know, Big Ten Championship, whatever, Do

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Speaker 5: they still get the same respect as a typical top

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Speaker 5: five team would if they lose.

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Speaker 4: A game, well, losing Ohio State losing one of these

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Speaker 4: November games are two very different situations.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think that's worth pointing out. But even then,

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Speaker 5: like if they drop a game over the rest of

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Speaker 5: the regular season, well they still get like the treatment

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Speaker 5: of Okay, well that was their one blip that some

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Speaker 5: teams you typically have a year or oh man, is

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Speaker 5: that the same old IU coming back down to earth? Like,

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Speaker 5: I just don't think that they should be viewed at

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01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 5: in that lightning.

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Speaker 4: Like to me, if you lose Ohio State on the

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Speaker 4: new field, you just have fine little Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think Indiana no punishment. I would argue, Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: game though.

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Speaker 5: I still think that like they've earned the right to

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01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 5: have some wiggle room too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean winning that Oregon and you know, guttiness

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Speaker 4: against Iowa, beating the brakes off of your squad. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I think we've just proved your point,

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Speaker 1: James about arguing in college football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like arguing that work all right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up in a moment, we'll talk to Scott Agnes

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Speaker 1: about the latest for the Indiana Pacers, maybe an update

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01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: on the w NBA labor talks. But he'll stop by

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Speaker 1: from the Fieldhouse Files next ninety three five and one

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Speaker 1: seven five The Fan going back for your childhood here.

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Speaker 2: Right, Mark? What's going on here? Malcolm in the middle. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Also a great show they're rebooting that. I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: watch that. But yes, that was a great show, especially

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Speaker 2: a show about just a family full of brothers. My

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Speaker 2: brothers and I love that show.

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Speaker 1: It's very good. All right. We have been kind of

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01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: going through memory lane a lot of TV theme shows

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01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: throughout the day because Mark felt like at the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days we got good feedback, so we thought

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Speaker 1: we'd keep it going today. In the meantime, it's time

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Speaker 1: to talk about the NBA, specifically the Indiana Pacers. They

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Speaker 1: lose one oh seven to one oh five to Dallas

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Speaker 1: last night, had a chance to win it at the

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Speaker 1: very end there, and it was a weird game, and

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Speaker 1: you're looking at it and there's a lot of G

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Speaker 1: League type guys out there, and Anthony Davis goes down.

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01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: There's no Kyrie irving for Dallas. And it was kind

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01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: of a strange game all night long, but an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: And to tell us a little bit more about that

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Speaker 1: and what lies ahead for the Pacers, we are joined

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Speaker 1: by Scott Agnes field House Files on the Payless Lickers

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Speaker 1: Hotline this morning. Good morning, Scott, how would you describe

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Speaker 1: that game last night?

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Speaker 6: I think the whole thing was weird, which is made

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Speaker 6: for a weird start to this season. But the biggest

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01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 6: thing overall, beyond the shortage of players is certainly the

2224
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,759
Speaker 6: poor shooting on all three levels, so from the field,

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01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 6: from three and at the free throw line ultimately doomed them,

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Speaker 6: even though they had that chance.

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Speaker 5: So Scott besides, you know, perhaps looking at flights to

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Speaker 5: get out there, Dallas because he needed to back up

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Speaker 5: for you know, point guard position. I would have loved

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Speaker 5: to see you out there.

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Speaker 7: You didn't get the call.

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Speaker 5: I didn't get the call either, you know, I gotta

2233
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 5: I gotta text some people and tell them, hey, I

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01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 5: got my Halliburns.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready.

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Speaker 5: But on a more serious note, what did you think

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Speaker 5: of the way the starters have produced in that game

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Speaker 5: in particular? And I'll say that because I feel like

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01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 5: through the first four games of the year, we're starting

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Speaker 5: to see the effect of not having Halliburton out there

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Speaker 5: because of not the shots that they're getting, like the

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Speaker 5: number of shots, but the shot quality.

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Speaker 6: If that makes sense, it does right now, James, everyone's

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01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 6: having to over exert themselves and play beyond their means.

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Speaker 6: And I thought, to your point about the guards, I

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01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 6: thought it was interesting they did not have been Shepherd

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01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 6: finish the game last night instead going with a couple

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Speaker 6: of their two way guards to play the final four

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Speaker 6: or five minutes down there. It just seems like everybody's

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Speaker 6: a little bit burned out, a little bit playing of

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Speaker 6: beyond their means, and so what they do great is

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01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 6: a little bit of a struggle right now because of

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Speaker 6: everything else. I mean, we think about Sheppard's defense and

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01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 6: three point shooting, and he and Aaron Neithmith they just

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Speaker 6: don't look comfortable or confident in their shot out there.

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Speaker 6: And so one takeaway in the short term from that

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Speaker 6: game just last night in particular, was just how much

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01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:21,719
Speaker 6: more comfortable I thought the reserve guards as they whole played,

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Speaker 6: more free, a little bit more healthy when you add

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Speaker 6: mac McClung in there. But that's one of the many

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Speaker 6: things they've got to shore up here in the short term,

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Speaker 6: just because there was such a drop off. And then

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Speaker 6: I even go to and we knew this was happening

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Speaker 6: all along, but that center spot still is just such

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Speaker 6: a big question mark.

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Speaker 7: You don't finish with the center.

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Speaker 6: Isaiah Jackson continues to deal with foul troubles to the

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Speaker 6: point where you can't even evaluate too much what he's

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Speaker 6: doing on the court because he's not out there very

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Speaker 6: long due to foul trouble. So so much for this

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Speaker 6: team to address.

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Speaker 4: Here, Scott Mercifully, I think the storyline is about to

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Speaker 4: come to a close or at least quiet down big time.

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Speaker 4: But obviously the Miles Turner, the storyline's been a big

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Speaker 4: one over the last x amount of months, and he

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Speaker 4: will make us return here coming up Monday night. He

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Speaker 4: struggled a lot really shooting the basketball here early with

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Speaker 4: the Bucks. I wanted to share this with you. I

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Speaker 4: just literally came across it during the break. I guess

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Speaker 4: Miles appeared on thanis Is podcast and naas fanasas if

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Speaker 4: I'm reading this correctly, here Jannis's little brother here. Direct

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Speaker 4: quote here from Miles. I'll just read it and let

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Speaker 4: you react to it. He's explaining his contract situation, basically

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Speaker 4: saying the Pacers changed their mind. He goes Pascal's on

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Speaker 4: the contract year, McConnell in the contract here, Nie Smith,

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Speaker 4: I could go down the list, but you go through that.

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Speaker 4: We had a great run. Everybody got taken care of,

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Speaker 4: everybody got paid because he won. Then the next year

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Speaker 4: we surpassed what we did. We went to the finals,

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Speaker 4: and all everybody told me was, Miles, just keep your

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Speaker 4: head down, keep your head down to work. You're going

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01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 4: to get taken care of. Then the unfortunate situation happens

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Speaker 4: in the finals with Tyrese, and I guess the front

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01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 4: office and ownership just changed their mind. It was like, yeah,

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01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 4: we told you all those things, and yeah, you helped

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Speaker 4: us get to the Eastern Conference finals and the finals,

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01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 4: but we had to pivot. That was basically the sentiment,

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01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,560
Speaker 4: and we were just very far apart on what we

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Speaker 4: thought the future should be. End quote. Thoughts on Miles

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Speaker 4: Turner and his explanation, I guess of the Pacers having

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01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 4: a change of heart seemingly post Tyrese Haliburn injury.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that probably most referenced how high they

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Speaker 6: were willing to go, how much they were willing to

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Speaker 6: stretch themselves, how much, if at all, they had to

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Speaker 6: go into these luxury tax in order to reassign him.

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Speaker 6: And the reality is nobody saw this coming KB because

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01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 6: no true team had salary cap space. So from a

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01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 6: business standpoint, at least initially, you kind of understand what

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01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 6: the Pacers are doing, because why jack up the price

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Speaker 6: when you're the only one buying the goods right now. Now,

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Speaker 6: with that said, you would have liked to see, I think,

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Speaker 6: to try to try. You would have liked to see maybe.

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Speaker 7: More of a realistic price out there.

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Speaker 6: I've been told all along that they were never willing

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Speaker 6: to go above sixty six million over three years, and

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Speaker 6: so he ultimately got one hundred and nine.

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Speaker 7: That is just such a significant difference there.

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Speaker 6: Now from the Pacers standpoint, they believe they kind of

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01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,759
Speaker 6: just got off to a starting point with that salary

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Speaker 6: offer and then we're never even able to get the

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Speaker 6: chance to make a second offer. That Miles was so frustrated,

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Speaker 6: so disrespected by that offer. That's when things completely changed

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Speaker 6: on the side of.

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Speaker 7: All of that, which which makes sense.

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Speaker 6: But I do understand Miles a standpoint here, because that

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Speaker 6: was the same exact scenario to an extent that played

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Speaker 6: out for Buddy Heals. Everybody got paid around him, and

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Speaker 6: he's sitting there going, hey, what about me. I'm a

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Speaker 6: regular starter, I don't miss any games whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: What about me?

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Speaker 6: And he never got paid. So ultimately he said, okay,

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Speaker 6: I want to be traded so I can have a

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01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 6: better opportunity to start or play and then get paid

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01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,560
Speaker 6: when what could be one of his later contracts.

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Speaker 7: So I understand that feeling as well.

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Speaker 4: Bear with my hypothetical here for a second, Scott agnesfield

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Speaker 4: House files with US Paylesslickers hotline. If Tyrese doesn't tears Achilles,

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01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 4: is Miles still a pacer? Gotta believe so, because I

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Speaker 4: would assume Milwaukee still offers what they offer, right, I

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01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 4: mean Milwaukee wanted to do their thing.

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Speaker 6: Well, the question is doesn't even get to that point, right,

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Speaker 6: do you even mess around with Miles too much and

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01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 6: you know, meaning in a negative light and just raise

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01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,560
Speaker 6: the price a little bit? I mean it to the

2345
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 6: whole conversation here. It certainly didn't probably help Miles has

2346
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 6: cause that finals performance, right, it's to see what happened there.

2347
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 6: But yeah, if Haliburton was healthy, you're one hundred percent

2348
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 6: bringing him back, and he's gonna want to bring back

2349
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Speaker 6: because if you take him at his word, he wants

2350
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 6: to be on a championship contending roster that has a

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01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 6: chance to compete, and this team absolutely would have done that.

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Speaker 1: Just curious, Scott, going back to last night real quick,

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Speaker 1: what was your overall impression and breakdown at Jaris Walker.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, The main number one thing Jeff was that three

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Speaker 6: point shot, and I think he really benefited that first

2356
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 6: year from playing in the G League because.

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Speaker 7: That's where I saw his shot.

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Speaker 6: His confidence and stepping into it, shooting it confidently really

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01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 6: grew and I thought that was the positive that was

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Speaker 6: really on display.

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Speaker 7: The challenge was just in some of his decision making.

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Speaker 6: It felt like he really started off strong and then

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01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 6: kind of petered out the rest of the game, went

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Speaker 6: to the basket many times and didn't finish strong or

2365
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 6: was kind of questioning out in what manner he was

2366
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 6: going to finish, which was a little bit concerning. But

2367
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 6: I think we're seeing he's one of the players. We're

2368
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 6: starting to see some positives I think from and now

2369
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 6: with him in the starting lineup and ample opportunity given

2370
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 6: Obi Toppins concerning injury.

2371
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 7: Right now, he's got to take advantage.

2372
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 5: One more Scott, and we'll let you go. I believe

2373
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 5: the next time we talk to you it will be

2374
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 5: after Miles Turner makes his return to Indiana. What type

2375
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 5: of reception do you expect and do we where should

2376
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 5: we how should we remember Miles Turner?

2377
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 2: If that makes sense?

2378
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, first of all, a guy that has

2379
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 6: that has been there through and through, that was the

2380
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 6: biggest jokester, prankster that embraced the rookie duties and.

2381
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 7: Then happily was the one that was handing them out.

2382
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 6: I think he was the guy that was the backbone

2383
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 6: of the defense so many times, especially kind of like

2384
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty twenty twenty one when the defense was

2385
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 6: atrocious and they purposely filtered defenders to him at the rim.

2386
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 6: But also a wildly complicated guy, a guy that was

2387
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 6: fiercely loyal. The most complicated thing and to me and

2388
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 6: all this was he was seemingly fiercely loyal to his

2389
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 6: teammates and this team and and everything. And then how

2390
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 6: easily this decision to move on was. Now, if it's

2391
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 6: purely from a money standpoint, I think we can all

2392
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 6: understand when he got basically double what the Pacers offer James.

2393
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 6: But on the other side of that, there were so

2394
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,679
Speaker 6: many good years. I think back to him hosting Turner's

2395
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 6: Block and really embracing the community as a guy, as

2396
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 6: an eighteen year old, lengthy kid that people were questioning

2397
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 6: his running style and they had to commission a study.

2398
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 6: So for him, I think he's going to hear all

2399
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 6: the booze in the world because I think fans and

2400
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 6: the team felt like, despite last year's run, he took

2401
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 6: a road out and didn't want to come back, and

2402
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 6: that badly hurt them to the point that James We're

2403
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 6: still waiting on the first teammate to.

2404
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 7: Wish him well publicly.

2405
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 6: So it's a complicated return, but I'm thinking it'll mostly

2406
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 6: be booze because fans were blindsided by this decision.

2407
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 5: Do you think when they boo him, he'll just think

2408
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 5: about the money, because I would.

2409
01:48:59,720 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2410
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 6: I think given the length of time, given the fact

2411
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 6: that he was just a kid, basically a teenager, it's

2412
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,679
Speaker 6: you know, he's spent half his life Indiana. He chose

2413
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 6: to live downtown, so it's not like he was on

2414
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 6: the suburbs either. I think it's a much more emotional

2415
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 6: and understandably so, because of the ten years here.

2416
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 1: Always going to talk to you, Scott. Have a great Thursday,

2417
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: big couple of games coming up. We got a Commissioner's

2418
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 1: Cup game against Atlanta tomorrow and then.

2419
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 7: You have too soon for that? What are we doing?

2420
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,799
Speaker 1: I know, right right? And then you've got Steph Curry

2421
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: on Saturday night and then the return of Miles Turner

2422
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: on Monday. You're going to be busy over there at

2423
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: the field House.

2424
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 7: Yep. Absolutely, I wouldn't want it any other way.

2425
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, have a good one. We'll talk to

2426
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: you soon.

2427
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 7: You got it. Thanks, guys, there you go.

2428
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting stuff that you highlighted there at the beginning

2429
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 1: of the conversation Kevin about what the mindset for Miles

2430
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: Turner was.

2431
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 4: And again, fifteen minutes from now, we'll have Eric name

2432
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 4: on from the Milwaukee Beat. He is James Boyd's colleague

2433
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 4: at the Athletic and I, first off, I really respect Eric.

2434
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 4: I think he does a great job and have enjoyed

2435
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 4: our conversations with him dating back to these playoff series

2436
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 4: and with the Miles Turner story. He had some reporting

2437
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,680
Speaker 4: and I think my numbers are correct here four for

2438
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 4: one oh seven I believe is what Milwaukee ended up

2439
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 4: giving Miles. He reported the Pacers stop at three years

2440
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 4: sixty six.

2441
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: It's a pretty big difference.

2442
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 4: That is a very big difference. Now again, I get

2443
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 4: why the Pacers had some pause, but if those numbers

2444
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 4: are presented to you, I get why Miles wanted to

2445
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 4: dance with the other one at the same time.

2446
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 1: So I mean, if that's the case, you can't be

2447
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 1: mad at him at all.

2448
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean fans whatever. You fans can be

2449
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 4: mad at whatever they would like to be mad about

2450
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 4: him out here to tell fans what.

2451
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 7: To be mad.

2452
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: It's hard to be mad at a guy for taking,

2453
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:55,640
Speaker 1: you know.

2454
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Miles has earned the right to you know,

2455
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 4: if someone present to him, you can, you know, do

2456
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 4: as he pleases there so, but yes, I would expect

2457
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 4: a course of booze. And you know, I'm trying to

2458
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 4: process what Miles said on that podcast. I mean the

2459
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,719
Speaker 4: Achilles I think changed probably a lot. If the Pacers

2460
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 4: are still in a championship season this year, then his

2461
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 4: ownership willing to dip their toes more to the deep end.

2462
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 4: That's the keus in.

2463
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 5: I think he's in a PACER's uniform. If Tyres Holivern

2464
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 5: isn't hurt, you think they match.

2465
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 4: Four for one oh seven.

2466
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: I think they do whatever they can to run it

2467
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: back again this.

2468
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 4: Year, absolutely, because but again that's running back with doing

2469
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 4: things they've never done financially. Just to be clear, just

2470
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 4: to make sure everyone's on.

2471
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 5: The honestly, it would be somewhere what we're seeing with

2472
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 5: the Colts. They've made some moves they'd haven't done before

2473
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 5: in the past, and I think the Pacers at that moment,

2474
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 5: and also knowing the last couple of the Eastern Conference,

2475
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 5: knowing that Boston will be down a year as well,

2476
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 5: with Tatum being out the majority ye of the year,

2477
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 5: I know he said he wants to come back.

2478
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 2: I think you go all in with that group.

2479
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,600
Speaker 5: When with that cores and my over all opinion on

2480
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 5: the Miles thing is one, I think he's a great

2481
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 5: human being. I think he was an outstanding player for

2482
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 5: this franchise. Granted the finals wasn't great, it was pretty bad,

2483
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 5: but overall his tenure, the dude was always a class act,

2484
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,879
Speaker 5: despite being in trade rumors every year. And then secondly,

2485
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 5: it sounds like the way he talks, he feels scorned,

2486
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 5: he feels a bit slighted, and I think that that

2487
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 5: is a real human emotion that perhaps we don't always

2488
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 5: see from players. And as much as we or at

2489
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:32,720
Speaker 5: least the fan base is like, oh shut up, we

2490
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 5: don't from we don't want to hear from him, I

2491
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 5: think it's a fascinating case study to a degree because

2492
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 5: you usually don't get athletes to open up and say

2493
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 5: the things he said, and for better or worse, at

2494
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:42,799
Speaker 5: least what he's saying.

2495
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 2: I think in his mind is honest.

2496
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: Well, one thing we do know, it's left a huge

2497
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: hole at the center possession for the Pacers or trying

2498
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,639
Speaker 1: to fill it in with a couple of different guys.

2499
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, I say Jackson last night, I want to

2500
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 4: say he picked up that fourth foul early third quarter.

2501
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even know if a minute had

2502
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 4: gone into the fourth quarter, and I think that was

2503
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 4: his last clock of the night.

2504
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 1: That's four eleven minutes.

2505
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 4: I think they went huff right after that, and then

2506
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 4: Bradley and they might have ended the game centerless. Which yeah,

2507
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 4: that's again the most shocking thing the last night is

2508
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 4: probably just how poorly guys that have actually been in

2509
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 4: meaningful NBA games played. You know, Quinton Jackson. I mean,

2510
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 4: if you want to add up the old G League boys,

2511
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 4: Quinton Jackson, Mac McClung and Ray J. Dennis, they were

2512
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:35,719
Speaker 4: nearly fifty percent, Shepherd Walker, Nie Smith twenty six percent.

2513
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 1: Nee Smith was two of sixteen and.

2514
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 4: Again for those who missed the final possession of the game.

2515
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 4: You could not have dreamed of a better look than

2516
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 4: the old. Hey, we're up three, the opponent fouls us,

2517
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 4: we've got to make a free throw and then clank

2518
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 4: one and then get the rebound.

2519
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 2: They did all of it.

2520
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 4: Nie Smith in rhythm, you know, three point contest type

2521
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 4: of three and could get it to go down now

2522
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 4: was for the win because you were down two at

2523
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 4: that point there. So Atlanta tomorrow night, there should be

2524
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 4: an opportunity there. Certainly Brooklyn on Wednesday, if it extends

2525
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 4: that far, can the Pacers scratching claw and try to

2526
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 4: get three out of these four on the home home span.

2527
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 4: I think that's the that's the goal, lofty, but that's

2528
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 4: the goal.

2529
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: One thing I did like about the game last night

2530
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: from an individual standpoint and a specific part of his game,

2531
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 1: Toy Bradley had eight rebounds in thirteen minutes, and every

2532
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: time I looked up last night, he was grabbing something

2533
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 1: off the the last when he was in there.

2534
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 5: As long as he's not an opponent, it's a good point.

2535
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 5: It's at all seriously because it's honest. It's funny, but

2536
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 5: it's honest.

2537
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 4: These centers right now, it's about hacking. So shout out

2538
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 4: to Mac mclong, Shout out to ray J Jenna, shout

2539
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 4: out to Quentin Jackson. Those three. It's not perfect, but

2540
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 4: you know what, those dudes play fearless both ends of

2541
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 4: the floor. They made some plays, Dennis said, some huge

2542
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 4: threes late. That's got to be quite the moment. They've

2543
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 4: got opportunities here for all of them.

2544
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 5: I tell you, ray J actually grew up in the

2545
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 5: area that I grew up in Illinois. Really, he went

2546
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 5: to a high school near mine, and I have no

2547
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 5: idea where do you go to college? I actually don't

2548
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 5: know where he went to college, but I know he

2549
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 5: went to I believe Oswego High School, which is about

2550
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 5: thirty minutes from Romeoville High School.

2551
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: So I'm remembering him play or anything like that.

2552
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 5: No, he went to a should go East High school actually,

2553
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 5: but no, because he's a he's twenty four. I'm twenty nine,

2554
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 5: so we didn't overlap it all. But it looks like

2555
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 5: he played.

2556
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 2: At Boise State, Toledo, and Baylor.

2557
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, three different schools. Wow that that there's that for

2558
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 5: modern college basketball. Quite the run there, But yeah, shout

2559
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 5: out to the you know guy who basically grew up

2560
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 5: in my neck of the woods putting on for us.

2561
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 5: It was so funny seeing how I saw him over

2562
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 5: the summer at an NCAA live period, because they had

2563
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 5: this big tournament every year in Romeoville at the facility,

2564
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 5: and he's in the gym and you know, he's seeing

2565
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 5: some of old coaches and people like that, and no

2566
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 5: one really knew who he was because granted, he's like

2567
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,919
Speaker 5: a you know, fringe NBA player or you know, relatively

2568
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 5: new NBA player to give more respect in that regard.

2569
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 5: But I was thinking, man, if he went out here,

2570
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 5: he could put sixty on all these guys. He's the

2571
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 5: best player here.

2572
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 2: They don't even know.

2573
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 5: So shout out to Regie Dennis for being somebody who

2574
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 5: could make a shot yesterday.

2575
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: How do you think he'd do against JMV Oh, he.

2576
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 2: Could kill us.

2577
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 7: I mean.

2578
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 5: Me, me, JMV combined. We're not stopping that big. He

2579
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 5: is special levels to this.

2580
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 1: I just want to check your level there, that's all.

2581
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not losing all right, right, Uh, let's.

2582
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 1: Check it down mark. The final score was one oh

2583
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: seven one oh five in favor of the Dallas Mavericks.

2584
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: Last night Pascal Siakam did have twenty seven points and

2585
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 1: thirteen rebounds, but once again on the struggle bus at

2586
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: the free throw line, Kevin.

2587
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, awful, eighteen and twenty eight. I think it was

2588
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 4: sixty four percent. And again that's a fundamental aspect that

2589
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 4: I don't care who's out there.

2590
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: He was seven to twelve.

2591
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 4: That's disappointing. So yeah, just a really unfortunate there, because

2592
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 4: you know, Dallas did have some injers. They don't act

2593
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 4: like they're the Pacers by any means, but I felt

2594
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 4: like they're an opportunity there, especially because he had a

2595
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 4: double digit lead there in the second quarter.

2596
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 1: All Right, as I mentioned a moment ago, big schedule

2597
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: coming up at home for the Pacers starts tomorrow night

2598
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 1: the Commissioner's Cup game. I guess the Atlanta Hawks. Maybe

2599
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: Trey Young is gonna be out in that one, Kevin,

2600
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 1: is that the latest?

2601
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, hurt last night didn't look great.

2602
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I hope he's okay, but

2603
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, catch a break for the Pacers if he's

2604
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 1: not playing. Golden State and Steph Curry show up on

2605
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 1: Saturday night, and then Milwaukee and Miles Turner on Monday.

2606
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a fun game to watch.

2607
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait. I'm gonna try to sleep as

2608
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 5: much as i can on the plane black back from

2609
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and hopefully going to nap in before that game

2610
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 5: because I got to be in the building for that.

2611
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 5: I'm fascinated by the entire dynamic of that, not just

2612
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 5: the matchup itself with just Miles has been here.

2613
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 2: For so long. He was a staple in this city

2614
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 2: and now he's the enemy.

2615
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 1: A couple of other NBA notes from last night. The

2616
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 1: Celtics beat the Cleveland Cavaliers one twenty five to one

2617
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: oh five. It feels like the Cavaliers are not showing

2618
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 1: up at the beginning of the season. The way that

2619
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 1: they finished last year is a favor to maybe win

2620
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference.

2621
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're still banged up. I believe Daris Garland remains out.

2622
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 5: Shout out to the Gary, Indiana native, So once they

2623
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 5: get him back and going, I think they'll be a

2624
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 5: lot more formidable.

2625
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 1: All right, and again, the Lakers beat the Minnesota Timberwolves

2626
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 1: on a last second shot, beating the buzzer. Austin Reeves,

2627
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 1: coming off a fifty point performance he had twenty eight

2628
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 1: points sixteen assists in the game winner. We may be

2629
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: witnessing kind of the birth of a star in the league.

2630
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 5: Lebron hang it up. We got Austin Reeves.

2631
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Tony all right. College basketball last night a couple of

2632
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 1: exhibition games. Butler over Indiana State one oh five to

2633
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: eighty at the field House. Finley Bisjack had twenty four points,

2634
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:42,879
Speaker 1: Evan Haywood scored fourteen, Breaton Jones had twelve, and Purdue

2635
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: over Indianapolis ninety two to forty nine. Jakari Harris had

2636
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 1: twenty points, Fletcher Lawyer had sixteen, Braden Smith Daniel Jacobson

2637
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: ten points apiece. Everybody gets ready for the regular season

2638
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 1: now in college basketball and first games coming up. We've

2639
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: got Wednesday, Alabama A and M taking on Indiana, and

2640
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 1: Purdue's first game will be Evansville on Tuesday. Butler's first

2641
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 1: official game Southern Indiana that's also a Wednesday game. And

2642
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 1: the IU Indie Jaguars will be playing at Ohio State

2643
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 1: on Monday. How about Purdue to Ohio State basketball? For well,

2644
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 1: two different schools, right A you Indy, you said you're right.

2645
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: IU Indy is the Division one school ind is the

2646
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 1: D two school. Shout out to Jakari Harris.

2647
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 4: Last night watched some highlights of that one again sophomore

2648
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 4: that is Glenn Robinson's son, and I thought he had

2649
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 4: some really impressive moments for Purdue. And we'll see if

2650
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 4: can give them a left looks like off the bench

2651
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 4: for them. CJ. Cox in the starting lineup there and

2652
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 4: then Finley Bizjack for Butler once again their leading.

2653
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 1: Score all right, then World Series last night, Mark Toronto

2654
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 1: Blue Jays, after losing that eighteen inning game, have come

2655
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 1: back with big performances. They now lead the series three

2656
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 1: games to two. They win at six to one last night,

2657
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: back to back home runs to start the game off

2658
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 1: from David Schneider and Davis Schneider, I should say in

2659
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Vladimir Gurero and then they just turned it over to

2660
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 1: Trey A. Savage and the youngster is three and one

2661
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 1: in the postseason. He's got a pair of double digit

2662
02:00:11,080 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 1: strikeout games now and in Game five of the World

2663
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 1: Series last night, all he did against maybe the best

2664
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 1: lineup in baseball was throw seven innings of one run baseball,

2665
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 1: allowed three hits, no walks, twelve strikeouts, and again the

2666
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 1: last seventeen months of this young man's life. He's gone

2667
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: from pitching in the NCAA Tournament at East Carolina to

2668
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 1: single A, got promoted to double A, promptly went up

2669
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 1: to triple A, got called up on September fifteenth to

2670
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 1: join Toronto, and he's been unstoppable. It's it's one of

2671
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 1: the most amazing stories I've seen in a long time.

2672
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 2: It's quite the twenty twenty five there for.

2673
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 5: You couldn't tell me nothing. I'm telling we pulled this

2674
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 5: off and we win this. Lord, that's why God can't

2675
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 5: give a certain towns to certain people, because if I

2676
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 5: did what he did and we won the World Series. Oh,

2677
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 5: There's not a hump bone in my body. I'm the

2678
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 5: greatest thanks to this.

2679
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 2: Live's break.

2680
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 1: All right, tell us about our next guest coming up here.

2681
02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:09,080
Speaker 5: Eric Name shout out to the Milwaukee Bucks reporter for

2682
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 5: the Athletic does a great job, and we will hear

2683
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 5: what he has to say about the Miles Turner return

2684
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 5: coming Monday.

2685
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 1: Last thing before we go to break two big Speedway news. Yesterday,

2686
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 1: Marco Andretti announces online his retirement. Man, it just doesn't

2687
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 1: it feel Kevin like two thousand and six was about

2688
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago with that thrilling finish with Sam Hornish

2689
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 1: and everything, and I was crazy.

2690
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you talk about the greatest sports moments

2691
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 4: in our state. Finishes how everyone describe it. Certainly those

2692
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 4: final few laps pretty iconic. Some of my favorite highlights

2693
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:45,720
Speaker 4: we've had in the great history of ninety five hundred

2694
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 4: there what could have been for the teenager? But yeah,

2695
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 4: unbelievable career. And that last name speaks for itself. Be

2696
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 4: a bit unusual, have a five hundred without Andretti in it?

2697
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:56,400
Speaker 1: All right? Eric name? Next as we continue on ninety

2698
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 1: three five and one oh seven five stuck by step

2699
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 1: only but a goodie right there, Mark Dacton Man, oh man,

2700
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 1: what a show that was? Much time did you spend

2701
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 1: rounding all these up?

2702
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 2: I just remember that show. Big fan of the sisters

2703
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 2: in that show, Suzanne Summers got it done as well.

2704
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 2: It's a good looking family here.

2705
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 1: Oh man. What was your favorite TV show of all

2706
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 1: growing up? Kevin?

2707
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I watched a lot of Nickelodeon. I mean

2708
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 4: we've gone over several of them today. I mean I

2709
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 4: watched a lot of Hey Arnold, a lot of Rocket Power,

2710
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 4: stoop Kids trying to get up to stup Kid A great,

2711
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 4: great one there, Mark what I say, saved by the

2712
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 4: bell earlier. I feel like I watched a lot of

2713
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:42,280
Speaker 4: Family Matters. Yeah, Marcus covered it beautifully these last two days.

2714
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. James was streaming stuff for online stuff

2715
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 1: more popular when you were, like in high school, middle

2716
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: school than just regular TV shows. What was your recollection there?

2717
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 1: When did it change?

2718
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 5: I want to say it was probably when I was

2719
02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 5: in college, when streaming kind of became a big thing

2720
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 5: in my own life. I'm gonna get my first Netflix subscription,

2721
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 5: maybe when I was a freshman of sophomore. And for

2722
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 5: the most part throughout high school and middle school, you

2723
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,680
Speaker 5: watch whatever on TV whatever time it came on. If

2724
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 5: you missed it, that here's what it is. And I think,

2725
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 5: I want to say, like DVRs and all that were

2726
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 5: kind of tvo yeah, yeah, on the move or whatever,

2727
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 5: so you could record things, but nah, you couldn't just

2728
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:24,720
Speaker 5: pull up and watch whatever. And honestly, I kind of

2729
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 5: miss some of that stuff because I remember watching every

2730
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 5: single Bulls game growing up because it was on local television.

2731
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,160
Speaker 5: Whereas now I think Chicago's similar to how it is

2732
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 5: with the Pacers where they have like the streaming subscription,

2733
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 5: so you have to pay to watch the Bulls. And

2734
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 5: I still I love my guys with Red Fandel Sports

2735
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 5: and what they do, but just the overall circus that

2736
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 5: you have to go through sometimes to watch your local

2737
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 5: team still bugs me.

2738
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 2: It does bother me too with all that, because like

2739
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 2: you have to have like your own the onw app

2740
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 2: for the service, so it's like you can't even watch

2741
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:55,320
Speaker 2: like regular TV and I was done with that last night.

2742
02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 2: It's almost like you're kind of like, I don't really

2743
02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 2: want to do that, so then it's like it kind

2744
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 2: of defeats the purpse. I don't want to have to

2745
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 2: go to a separate app and I want to watch

2746
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 2: something here. Yeah, I'm miss being able to hit like

2747
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 2: the last button. Yeah, the TV and going from channel

2748
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:09,160
Speaker 2: to channel back and forth. I couldn't do that last night.

2749
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 2: I've got to go back home.

2750
02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 5: Yes, a series on my phone and then like the

2751
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 5: Pacers the game on my TV.

2752
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 1: So all right, let's check in on the Pacers and

2753
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: specifically the Milwaukee Bucks. The return of one Miles Turner

2754
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 1: will come on Monday night over at the Field. House

2755
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 1: and we check in with our intrepid athletic reporter who

2756
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 1: covers the Milwaukee Bucks, and that would be Eric name

2757
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:31,920
Speaker 1: who joined us on the the Payless Lookers hotline right now.

2758
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 1: And Eric, you know, we heard some podcast stuff from

2759
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 1: Miles Turner the last day or two and it sounds

2760
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day it wasn't just

2761
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 1: about the money, although it was a much better offer,

2762
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 1: it sounds like from the Bucks, but at the last

2763
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 1: minute maybe the Pacers kind of changed direction on Miles Turner.

2764
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 1: What are you picking up on that right now?

2765
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:53,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean talking to Miles at the you know,

2766
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 8: training camp in Miami. The Bucks took a trip down there. Yeah,

2767
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 8: to me, it really he has felt like throughout all

2768
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 8: of this that when Miles left to go on vacation

2769
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 8: to go to Hawaii, I think he thought he was

2770
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 8: gonna be a Pacer, Like I thought talking to him

2771
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 8: that he thought at some point his agent were gonna

2772
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:17,800
Speaker 8: call him and say, hey, here's the deal. We're going

2773
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 8: back to Indiana and Miles was gonna be pretty happy

2774
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 8: with it. And it just seems like that that offer

2775
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 8: from the Pacers never came, or the offer that he

2776
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:30,880
Speaker 8: was hoping to get from the Pacers never came, and

2777
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 8: the Bucks obviously swooped in and had a larger offer.

2778
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 8: To me, that still feels like most of it. Maybe,

2779
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 8: you know, you try to figure out how many chances

2780
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 8: the Pacers were given or not given, But to me,

2781
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 8: it just felt like from the start it wasn't the

2782
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 8: number that you know, Miles was expecting, and I think

2783
02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 8: that led to him thinking about going somewhere else.

2784
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 4: Eric named does excellent work on the Milwaukee Bucks feed

2785
02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 4: for the athletic Keys with us year on the Payloff

2786
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 4: Sickers hotline. Eric, just to put numbers behind that, I

2787
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:06,200
Speaker 4: want to give our audience a little bit of I

2788
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 4: guess numerical value.

2789
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 2: Best.

2790
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:12,600
Speaker 4: You know, three years for sixty six million was the

2791
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 4: Pacers offer, and then what was it? Four for one

2792
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 4: oh seven is what he ended up getting from Milwaukee.

2793
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, he gets four ends up being one oh eight

2794
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 8: point nine in Milwaukee. But yeah, three sixty six is

2795
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:29,120
Speaker 8: the best I've heard from the Panthers side of things.

2796
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:33,280
Speaker 4: How would you again, It's October thirtieth, We've played what

2797
02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:36,560
Speaker 4: three four games of basketball this season, But the raw

2798
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:39,080
Speaker 4: numbers would say some rough shooting for Miles early on,

2799
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 4: how would you describe the experience for him individually?

2800
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 1: Early?

2801
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:47,360
Speaker 8: I think overall, the team would like him to shoot more.

2802
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 8: And I know that's a strange thing for me to

2803
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:54,240
Speaker 8: say when you know he's shooting thirty one percent from

2804
02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 8: the field, he's shooting twenty two point seven percent from three.

2805
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 8: But you kind of look at all these games and, uh,

2806
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 8: the thing everyone kind of remarks on is, you know,

2807
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,880
Speaker 8: they just need him to be looking for a shot

2808
02:07:09,080 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 8: and to be aggressive and to shoot the shots that

2809
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:14,560
Speaker 8: are there when they're open. I think you go back

2810
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 8: to you know two or yeah, Tuesday's game against the Knicks,

2811
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 8: there's there's two in particular, I was shocked that he

2812
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:29,920
Speaker 8: didn't shoot. They both ended up being assists to better shooters. Uh,

2813
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 8: And like it's nice that that's a play, but you know,

2814
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 8: I had asked docs specifically about it. And there's one

2815
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 8: of the third quarter where Miles of the wide open

2816
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:42,240
Speaker 8: corner three, he passes it up to throw a pass

2817
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 8: back behind his back to the corner that he just

2818
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 8: vacated to Ryan Rollins, who's to Ron Rolinds credited you know,

2819
02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 8: like a forty four percent three point shooter and he

2820
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:52,960
Speaker 8: knocked it down and he had it going and and

2821
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 8: it was good that Miles is feeding them. And you know,

2822
02:07:56,040 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 8: my my talk to Doc about after the game, Doctor

2823
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 8: was like I wanted to kill him. I got we

2824
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:05,040
Speaker 8: need him to shoot. But it's talks kind of to

2825
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 8: how selfless Miles can be at times where he knew

2826
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:11,120
Speaker 8: Ryan Rollins had a going so he made an extra

2827
02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 8: pass and he made an extra play. Once it went in,

2828
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 8: I was happy, but at the time I wanted to

2829
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 8: kill him because you know, he's got to take these shots,

2830
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 8: Like that's that's got to be something that we get

2831
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:23,560
Speaker 8: from him. And I think when you you kind of

2832
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 8: talk to Miles, I think he's still trying to figure out, uh,

2833
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 8: you know, how to insert himself into the game plan.

2834
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:34,960
Speaker 8: Uh in how to find his shots? What are his shots?

2835
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 8: When does he need to take those shots. I think

2836
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 8: he's struggling a little bit with that. But uh, you

2837
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 8: know what he does instead of taking those shots is

2838
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 8: make an extra pass or try to get someone else open. So, uh,

2839
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:52,280
Speaker 8: it's not a thing where players are up set with

2840
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,080
Speaker 8: him because of what he ends up doing, because it's

2841
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:58,240
Speaker 8: you know, trying to help the team. But I do

2842
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:01,200
Speaker 8: think overall, they're like, dude, you got to shoot. We're

2843
02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:03,960
Speaker 8: gonna need you to shoot, And that's kind of been

2844
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 8: an interesting thing to watch through four games.

2845
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 5: Eric, I'm sure that flight is probably already if it's

2846
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:11,160
Speaker 5: a flight or a drive or whatever, it's probably already

2847
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:13,920
Speaker 5: booked from Monday. So I'll see you over at gamer

2848
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 5: Field House when Miles returns. But as far as what

2849
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 5: the Bucks did to acquire Miles, do you think that

2850
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 5: weighs on him at all? Knowing that they did something

2851
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:26,240
Speaker 5: I was kind of impressed in it, and waiving a

2852
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 5: future Hall of Famer and stretching his remaining millions and

2853
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 5: millions of dollars to acquire you, and also knowing you're

2854
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 5: joining a future Hall of Famer whose future is in

2855
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 5: the balance of whatever you all.

2856
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 2: Do this season.

2857
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:44,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's interesting. I don't get the sense that he

2858
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:49,560
Speaker 8: thinks about Damian Lillard at all, or the move that

2859
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 8: was made to make it possible to acquire him. I

2860
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 8: don't think he thinks about that part at all. I

2861
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 8: think that's something that John Horse has to think about

2862
02:09:57,800 --> 02:10:00,880
Speaker 8: every day and sleep with at night, that you know

2863
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 8: there's twenty two and a half million down the books

2864
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 8: and dead money for the next five years. I think

2865
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 8: that's more of a administrative thing. I think what weighs

2866
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 8: on Miles is literally just the fact that he spent

2867
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,840
Speaker 8: ten years in Indiana. Like, you know, when I had

2868
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 8: done my you know it one on one interview with

2869
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 8: him that we put out on you know, during the

2870
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 8: season opener, I did think it was noteworthy that I

2871
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:32,120
Speaker 8: didn't bring up going back to Indiana. I didn't bring

2872
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 8: up the date. I didn't bring up any of that,

2873
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:36,800
Speaker 8: and Miles, off the top of his id was able

2874
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 8: to rattle off November third, uh, and it was like, oh, okay,

2875
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 8: I I'm a little worried about I don't know, like

2876
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 8: the homecoming aspect of it, Like I don't know, I

2877
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 8: don't know how people in Indiana will react. I do

2878
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 8: think there's you know, as more details have come out

2879
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,560
Speaker 8: about it, I think maybe there could be some Pacers

2880
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 8: fans don't love how much he was offered and maybe

2881
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:07,040
Speaker 8: it wasn't enough. But I also know that every night

2882
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 8: there are Pacers fans, in my mentions on Twitter screenshotting

2883
02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 8: his box score and sending it around and showing how

2884
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 8: little Miles Turner does. So that's and those could just

2885
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:21,800
Speaker 8: see bad apples, right, Like, I'm not here to say

2886
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 8: what the reaction will be on Monday, but I do

2887
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 8: know that that was a place he loved, right like,

2888
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:31,760
Speaker 8: he was there for a decade. That's when he learned.

2889
02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 8: I mean essentially, like you from college, you go to

2890
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 8: a new place and you learn how to you know,

2891
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 8: become a man, you build a family, like you do

2892
02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 8: all of those things. So there's a lot of love

2893
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:49,720
Speaker 8: there and I am very very very very very curious

2894
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:51,840
Speaker 8: to see what the reaction.

2895
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 2: Will be on Monday.

2896
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:55,320
Speaker 5: Well, Eric is someone who can see the future. I

2897
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 5: can guarantee you this.

2898
02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 1: They will do that.

2899
02:11:57,480 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 7: Man.

2900
02:11:57,680 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, Eric, I would expect a

2901
02:12:00,160 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 4: large amount of boots based off and just a again,

2902
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:06,560
Speaker 4: I'm relaying info from our listeners. I think the phrase

2903
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 4: of go where you're celebrated, I think that really rubbed

2904
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,000
Speaker 4: the Pacers fans the wrong way. And I'm not asking

2905
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,440
Speaker 4: you to sit here and whatever defend Miles or anything

2906
02:12:15,480 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 4: like that. I'm just relaying what I think the atmosphere

2907
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 4: will be like in there on Monday.

2908
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I don't even think I need to

2909
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:25,480
Speaker 8: defend it. Like get he was clearly talking about the

2910
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:30,840
Speaker 8: organization they gotta I understand that when you say go

2911
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:33,400
Speaker 8: where you're celebrated, you're going to be thinking about like

2912
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 8: the fans. But I think Miles was pretty clearly talking

2913
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 8: about an organization that didn't pay him.

2914
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:41,360
Speaker 7: Is he thought he should be paid?

2915
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:47,000
Speaker 8: So but yeah, that's unfortunate. I think, like you know, obviously,

2916
02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:50,320
Speaker 8: I've I've gone through many homecomings over the years, and

2917
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 8: I'm sad to hear that that will be the expected outcome.

2918
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:56,480
Speaker 1: Eric.

2919
02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 5: I mean, what you just explained right, there is nuance

2920
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 5: when you're paying for the tickets and all that.

2921
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:06,880
Speaker 8: Man, very sure, for sure, I agree, I agree. It

2922
02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:09,480
Speaker 8: just it makes me sad because I do. I do

2923
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:13,200
Speaker 8: really think it's it's kind of I think one of

2924
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 8: the things that is so kind of incredible to me

2925
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 8: about Miles over the years is that obviously I wasn't

2926
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:24,280
Speaker 8: in Indiana, right, I only hear from you know, a

2927
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:27,240
Speaker 8: week source about what's going on in Indiana, and man,

2928
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:30,440
Speaker 8: every trade deadlineer was like, oh, they're about to trade them.

2929
02:13:31,120 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 8: They're about to trade them, right, They're about to trade them.

2930
02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 8: And then man, like that moment when they're going to

2931
02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 8: the finals and Miles is on the mic, like that

2932
02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 8: was so cool, Like that was so cool that he

2933
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:48,640
Speaker 8: got to like have that moment after ten years of

2934
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:52,400
Speaker 8: trade rumors and you're thinking, like, oh right, this is great.

2935
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:56,280
Speaker 8: The franchise is in a place that hasn't been before,

2936
02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 8: or it hasn't been in a while, Like this is

2937
02:13:58,920 --> 02:14:02,520
Speaker 8: so cool. He's getting to like he will solidify himself

2938
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:05,000
Speaker 8: in the Indiana and then it doesn't happen, and now

2939
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:09,440
Speaker 8: this FN's getting booed. It's gonna be that's crazy, but

2940
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:12,640
Speaker 8: I understand it like that. That is how how fan

2941
02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 8: base is and fans operate.

2942
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:17,320
Speaker 1: It's okay. Eric is always thanks for stopping by. We

2943
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 1: appreciate your time, and uh maybe we'll all catch up

2944
02:14:20,080 --> 02:14:20,960
Speaker 1: on Monday. We'll see.

2945
02:14:21,600 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 8: I can't wait. Sound good?

2946
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:23,080
Speaker 1: There you go.

2947
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 4: I think I was really well said by Eric, you know,

2948
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:28,120
Speaker 4: from an outsider, and I say outsider like you know,

2949
02:14:28,200 --> 02:14:29,800
Speaker 4: one that was not obviously here for the ten years

2950
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:33,760
Speaker 4: of Miles Turner to describe everything that unfolded in the

2951
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,800
Speaker 4: and I mean Mark played that a million times on

2952
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,360
Speaker 4: our re entries there throughout the playoffs, the Nancy Leonard

2953
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:43,880
Speaker 4: embrace and now the scene will see Monday night. It's

2954
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:45,920
Speaker 4: a reminder that sports aren't Hollywood.

2955
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:47,160
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

2956
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:51,440
Speaker 5: And I also think that there is a different level

2957
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:54,800
Speaker 5: of maybe respect, I don't know if that's the right word,

2958
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 5: but relationship. If you've got a chance to interact with

2959
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:00,560
Speaker 5: Miles on a personal level.

2960
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:02,240
Speaker 2: Which you like.

2961
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:04,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm not something I say that it is

2962
02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 5: in a bad way. I'm saying I feel like, for me,

2963
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 5: for example, I'm a bit softer towards the Miles Turner

2964
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 5: experience because I'm like, oh, this is the guy that

2965
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 5: when I first got my job at Andy Starr and

2966
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 5: I was walking through the Pacers facility, he just gave

2967
02:15:18,360 --> 02:15:19,960
Speaker 5: me his number and told me, hey, whatever you need,

2968
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:20,640
Speaker 5: let me know.

2969
02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:23,480
Speaker 2: He recommends his recommendations for Andy and that sort of thing.

2970
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 5: But then, also, like you said, from a fan standpoint,

2971
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:28,520
Speaker 5: you know me, I love Petty.

2972
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:31,240
Speaker 2: And you hear go where you're celebrating, and I think.

2973
02:15:31,480 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 5: Dude, I wasn't the one putting on the trading block.

2974
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:36,640
Speaker 5: I was the one in Miles Turner block or whatever

2975
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:39,000
Speaker 5: it was, cheering you on and hoping you play better

2976
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:42,240
Speaker 5: in the finals quite frankly, so I understand that. And then,

2977
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:44,840
Speaker 5: like I said, I love being Petty, so to me,

2978
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:46,520
Speaker 5: want you the enemy.

2979
02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:47,520
Speaker 2: I am booing you.

2980
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 5: You could have left on great terms. I still don't

2981
02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:50,960
Speaker 5: boo you, because that's my right as a fan.

2982
02:15:51,160 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 1: Here's what I would like to see. I would like

2983
02:15:53,080 --> 02:15:57,520
Speaker 1: to see a nice, warm welcome on Monday night, to

2984
02:15:57,640 --> 02:16:00,440
Speaker 1: appreciate all he gave to this franchise as long as

2985
02:16:00,440 --> 02:16:02,960
Speaker 1: he stuck around, and then the second that ball tips up,

2986
02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:04,760
Speaker 1: you blew him every time he touches the book.

2987
02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that.

2988
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:07,320
Speaker 5: That's like this thing, Jeff.

2989
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 4: I'd like a six pack by noon, and I don't

2990
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:12,200
Speaker 4: mean cold beer, I mean abs, and that ain't happening.

2991
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:12,800
Speaker 6: I know.

2992
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I would like to see happen.

2993
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:18,160
Speaker 1: I would like to see some appreciation for what he contributed.

2994
02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:20,440
Speaker 1: And then at that point in time, he's on the

2995
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:27,360
Speaker 1: Milwaukee bucks Man. Right, you'd enemy. You said we wasn't

2996
02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:30,840
Speaker 1: good enough, you went with the new girl. Yeah, you huh,

2997
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,160
Speaker 1: we haven't. We've been so busy that we haven't checked

2998
02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:36,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the fan text line messages today. We

2999
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 1: will do some of that before we wrap it up next.

3000
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:44,680
Speaker 1: Jason and yep, I like that for finishing up mark.

3001
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:48,400
Speaker 2: Very highly requested song Miami Vice. Yeah, I gonna admit

3002
02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:50,480
Speaker 2: I've never seen an episode by Rocking Tubs.

3003
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:54,640
Speaker 1: Rocking Tubs. They they were the vibe of the mid

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Speaker 1: and late eighties, just the whole vis.

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Speaker 2: Kids miss out on so much these days. I just

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Speaker 2: remember the the neon like suit jackets that they had

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02:17:05,440 --> 02:17:08,080
Speaker 2: like rolled up to their elbows. That was always like

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02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:10,360
Speaker 2: the running gag, Like look at the style in the eighties.

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02:17:10,400 --> 02:17:11,840
Speaker 2: That was like always the go to of like look

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Speaker 2: how ridiculous this was.

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Speaker 5: We we had a Miami game on the cold schedules,

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02:17:16,320 --> 02:17:19,960
Speaker 5: soalking dress like that, you can go.

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Speaker 1: You need you need to wreck like a convertible, big,

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02:17:22,280 --> 02:17:24,600
Speaker 1: big time convertible, you know what's crazy like that.

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Speaker 5: When I did the Senior Bowl a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 5: my rental car was a drop top Mustang and that

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02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:34,560
Speaker 5: was my accident because I guess they run out of

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02:17:34,560 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 5: like economy cars.

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Speaker 2: So they just gave me that. Sure, I'll take that one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, boy, didn't complain.

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Speaker 2: I was not complaining.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Two seventy is the fan text line. A lot

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Speaker 1: of folks Kevin wondering where Jason Hammer is this week?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Hammer on vacation. A great last Thursday with him,

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02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:52,160
Speaker 4: not only Thursday Night Football. But remember he hit the

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Speaker 4: Benedict matherin first three of the season bet plus two ninety.

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02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:59,640
Speaker 4: He then hit Jonathan Taylor three touchdowns in the game

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Speaker 4: for plus eight hundred. Take that, Chauncey Phillips. Jason Hammer

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Speaker 4: cooking in the studios last Thursday on vacation, but he

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02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:12,360
Speaker 4: is relayed his bets to the one and only Mark

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Speaker 4: Dyke den Mark feed sure.

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Speaker 2: If you were here earlier, we mentioned that his main

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Speaker 2: bet for tonight's game between the Ravens and the Dolphins

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02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 2: was the over fifty and a half. He said Hammer

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Speaker 2: that He also said some other Thursday Night football props

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Speaker 2: for tonight. He likes Derrick Henry over eighteen and a

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Speaker 2: half rushing attempts and Devin h Chan he has over

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Speaker 2: fifty eight and a half rushing yards, So the over

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Speaker 2: fifteen and a half for points all over tonight over

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02:18:38,480 --> 02:18:40,760
Speaker 2: fifteen a half total points, over eighteen and a half

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02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:43,400
Speaker 2: rushing attempts for Derrick Henry and over fifty eight and

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02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:46,000
Speaker 2: a half rushing yards for eight Chan. And then if

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Speaker 2: you want to turn the page to Sunday between the

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02:18:48,120 --> 02:18:50,840
Speaker 2: Colts and Steelers, he's got some bets there for you.

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02:18:50,959 --> 02:18:54,320
Speaker 2: He's got Michael Pittman as an anytime touchdown score. As

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02:18:54,400 --> 02:18:58,160
Speaker 2: of Wednesday, he said it was plus one sixty. He said,

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02:18:58,360 --> 02:19:01,640
Speaker 2: with Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren seeing more attention from defenses,

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02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:05,400
Speaker 2: especially in the red zone, Michael Pittman could see more opportunities,

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02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:07,720
Speaker 2: so he likes that there. He also likes the Colts

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02:19:07,879 --> 02:19:10,360
Speaker 2: minus one and a half points in the second half.

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Speaker 1: He said.

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Speaker 2: Also plus money is at one ten there, So a

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02:19:14,400 --> 02:19:17,360
Speaker 2: couple of Colts Steelers bets for you to place on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Hammer's been very good here as of late, so a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a slower start to the year, but

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Speaker 4: he has been excellent here as of late. So thank

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Speaker 4: you Mark for.

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Speaker 1: Those ah, thank you Jason Hammer for those too. A

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02:19:28,240 --> 02:19:30,360
Speaker 1: lot of people checking in on Myles Turner to day two,

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02:19:31,360 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 1: tanner In says ten years of miles here and in

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02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:36,600
Speaker 1: the moments he was needed most, he peed down his

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02:19:36,720 --> 02:19:40,040
Speaker 1: leg every single time got dominated by a two hundred

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02:19:40,040 --> 02:19:43,480
Speaker 1: pound dude all finals long tired of this Miles talk.

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02:19:43,560 --> 02:19:46,000
Speaker 1: He took one hundred million dollars, which is awesome for him.

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02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:49,119
Speaker 1: Pacers weren't going to pay him since Tyrese got hurt

3066
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:52,320
Speaker 1: which is a smart business decision. I trust Kevin and

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02:19:52,400 --> 02:19:54,920
Speaker 1: Chad Way more than trusting that Miles would be carrying

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Speaker 1: this team, which he never did in the decade he

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Speaker 1: spent here. Him and his legos are gone, and in

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Speaker 1: the end it's a win and him go Pacers.

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Speaker 5: Dang, that's cold blooding.

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Speaker 1: Everybody liked Legos gets go, they take off right. You

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Speaker 1: had your kicker for the Colts a few years ago.

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Speaker 5: Oh don't you dare compere to Miles Turns to him.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, everybody woul Legos, just don't do it, Jeffs.

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Speaker 4: Miles Turner was what a B minus player? Nice player, yea?

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Speaker 4: And the Pacers paid him like that and everybody won.

3078
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:28,160
Speaker 4: When somebody paid him like an a player, he said, Boy,

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Speaker 4: that girl looks pretty attractive. I might go dance with her.

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Speaker 5: I'll never forget when Pittman told me Michael Himan Jr.

3081
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:35,040
Speaker 5: He said, when I when is that for a new contra?

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Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, he said, I want to

3083
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:39,720
Speaker 5: get paid so much that somebody thinks I got paid

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02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 5: too much. There you go, Miles, you have done it, brother,

3085
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:44,680
Speaker 5: but you will get boo when you come.

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Speaker 4: Back and that might be a conversation worth having here

3087
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Speaker 4: in a few months. James Boyd with Michael Pittman Jr.

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Speaker 4: And his contract.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just talking about your boy. Yeah, please call

3090
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Speaker 2: let it tell them.

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Speaker 1: Going back to our conversation, going back to our conversation

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Speaker 1: about school dance participation too. Our buddy Aaron said he

3093
02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:05,480
Speaker 1: was first rope bleacher guy at the dances in high school.

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Speaker 1: I know the feeling KPN mark Popcorn.

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02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:14,160
Speaker 5: I cannot relate. Your boy was out there pop enjoying itself, pop,

3096
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:19,400
Speaker 5: locking and dropping. Hitting the Soldier Boy. Oh man, he

3097
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Speaker 5: kiss he is Day two choreographed. The Soldier Boy was

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Speaker 5: the only choreographed song that I knew.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Same here.

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02:21:24,440 --> 02:21:26,840
Speaker 4: Not a TikTok game Elendric slide comes on at weddings

3102
02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:29,480
Speaker 4: like well you just got to pull up the video

3103
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:31,560
Speaker 4: training camp and you can see my rhythm. Yeah this

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02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 4: is true, Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: At the young jock very nicely, Maddi stopped Hayden to

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02:21:36,360 --> 02:21:39,680
Speaker 1: the Miami Vice conversation, Skivvy says, my grandma used to

3107
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Speaker 1: get so mad at my cousin who would never wear socks.

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02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 2: To be like the Miami Vice was apparently the style

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Speaker 2: back then. I cannot relate, but that's what I've been told.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna wrap it up for us.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow for a big weekend preview, and

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Speaker 1: of course later on today Jake Query at noon, JMB

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Speaker 1: at three. Have a terrific Thursday.