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Speaker 1: From the WIBC newsroom. John at Cruz is joining us

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Speaker 1: in the studio. Hey, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: You have got some interesting articles up right now at

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Speaker 2: WIBC dot com and some good reporting. The title of

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Speaker 2: this one you could not even put the full quote

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Speaker 2: up on the I.

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Speaker 3: Was trying to be safe, Okay, So tell us about

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Speaker 3: this involves the board president from Clinton County Sheriffs. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I literally feel like I'm seeing a soap opera unfold

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Speaker 3: right before my own very eyes.

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Speaker 1: Reaching a fever place. It is going crazy.

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Speaker 3: So last week they had another Sheriff's merit board meeting.

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Speaker 3: So the past few months, and actually the past few years,

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Speaker 3: Clayton County, the Sheriff's office has been involved in lots

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Speaker 3: of alleged accusations of things happening. You know, you have

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Speaker 3: the sheriff and his civilian wife who's the jail matron,

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Speaker 3: accused of misusing funds and so they're going to be

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Speaker 3: going to court in couple months because they're supposed to

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Speaker 3: pay back. I believe it's about three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: nine thousand dollars. That's just one part of it. Then

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Speaker 3: the next part of it is that there was this

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Speaker 3: rumor swirling around that a civilian employee within the Sheriff's

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Speaker 3: office was having an affair with a captain on staff,

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Speaker 3: and so they keep saying it's a civilian employee, but

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Speaker 3: everybody knows in Clinton County who the civilian employee is,

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Speaker 3: and for some reason at the Sheriff's Board meeting, they

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Speaker 3: would not say her name, which we all know who

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Speaker 3: it is. And at the merritboard meeting, during the public

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Speaker 3: comments section, a lady who actually works with the department

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Speaker 3: came up and spoke her piece and said, I am

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Speaker 3: tired of you guys not naming who this person is,

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Speaker 3: because now people are asking me if I am the

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Speaker 3: one having the affair with the captain, and it's not me,

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Speaker 3: and so she's over it.

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Speaker 1: So she was the first one to say something.

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Speaker 3: Then the captain, which is Captain Matt Myers, his wife

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Speaker 3: comes up and she says some public remarks, and so

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Speaker 3: she's accusing Sheriff Richard Kelly of basically stopping her file

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Speaker 3: for a formal complaint of the entire investigation just to

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Speaker 3: say face with his wife. So let me take down

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Speaker 3: your husband who is part of the affair, and let

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Speaker 3: me block my wife who's also part of it as well.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so let's let's let's say say so much that right.

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Speaker 4: Let's set the soap opera stuff aside. I think in

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Speaker 4: the article it talked about that some aspects are being

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Speaker 4: turned over for investigation from Indiana State Police. So what

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Speaker 4: are those criminal related allegations that the Indiana State So that.

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Speaker 3: Would be with Captain Matt Myers because of the affair

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Speaker 3: happening within the Sheriff's office, which is part of misconduct

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Speaker 3: as well as there's some allegations of him coming into

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Speaker 3: work intoxicated and then sleeping it off.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So some of the soap opera stuff actually is

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Speaker 4: potentially criminal.

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Speaker 1: Actually got it okay.

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Speaker 2: And there's also reporting of misuse of jail commissary funds.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and so that's the part where the jail matron,

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Speaker 3: which is Ashley Kelly, is the wife of Sheriff Richard Kelly,

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Speaker 3: and so they're saying that that money was funded through there,

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Speaker 3: it got basically transferred into their public or their own

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Speaker 3: work account or they have an LLLC setup. And so

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Speaker 3: the Attorney General filed a complaint against them, and so

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Speaker 3: they've been going through legal processes for the last several months.

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Speaker 3: So they're all supposed to be going to court here

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Speaker 3: in the next few months for about that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now another part of the article, you talk about

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Speaker 4: this woman, Ashley Kelly, and it references a history of misconduct. Yes,

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Speaker 4: is there any other information that you can give us

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Speaker 4: about that history of misconduct that I assume took place

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Speaker 4: before the current allegations of miss conduct.

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Speaker 3: There are allegations of a former deputy who resigned and

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Speaker 3: was forced to resigned, resign with an allegation of her

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Speaker 3: being involved in that, but then she was not. Nothing

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Speaker 3: happened to her, So that's another hearsay story.

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Speaker 2: So just allegations at this point, got it, And it's

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Speaker 2: the merit board president who is very upset.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So in the meeting, so we first start with

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Speaker 3: the woman who her name is Janine, who says, look,

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Speaker 3: stop asking me. I'm not the one having the affair

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Speaker 3: and it's really rude and it's upsetting me in my

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Speaker 1: Then you have Matt Meyer's.

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Speaker 3: Wife coming up and speaking about you know her say

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Speaker 3: and then after that the board president basically says, look,

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Speaker 3: I am fed up with this. This is ridiculous. Why

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Speaker 3: is this taking so long to be investigated. Why are

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Speaker 3: we not getting the answers we need? This is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 3: I've been a resident for Clan County for X amount

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Speaker 3: of years, I've been the board president and chose some

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Speaker 3: explicitive words, you know, to kind of express his frustration.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Wow, this is this is crazy,

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Speaker 1: this is some drama.

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Speaker 2: So the miraorboard president though, asked how long that this

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Speaker 2: should take.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a legitimate question.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely how long I should it take for this

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Speaker 2: to all get figure out.

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Speaker 3: All the sheriff said was that it was turned over

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Speaker 3: to the Indiana State Police and so he cannot comment

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Speaker 3: on that part now. After I because I did a

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Speaker 3: story about it, I did a video about it, and

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Speaker 3: I got an interesting email or a message from somebody

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Speaker 3: after they watched my video, and they said they said

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Speaker 3: that allegedly an email went out to Clan County HR

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Speaker 3: as well as the Sheriff's office from the attorney of

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Speaker 3: Sheriff Kelly demanding for the investigation to be stopped by

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Speaker 3: his wife.

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Speaker 4: Oh interesting, Wow, did that person happen to provide a

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Speaker 4: copy of that email?

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Speaker 3: No, it's all alleged, Okay, so yes, it's alleged at

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Speaker 3: this point.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: The person who sent you the message, were they anonymous?

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Speaker 1: They need to be remain anonymous?

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, Okay, So now if I understand this correctly,

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Speaker 4: the two people that are being investigated are Myers and

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Speaker 4: this unnamed civilian. Is that right? It's part of the Indiana.

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Speaker 1: State Police investigation apparently? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Is there anybody else or are those the only two?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 3: Those are the only two allegedly right now for this

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Speaker 3: specific instance, but also the sheriff and and the person

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Speaker 3: we can name, which is actually Kelly will be you know,

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Speaker 3: in court later in the next few months about the

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Speaker 3: misuse of fund for that tell us.

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Speaker 2: About the East Chicago woman who spent more than two

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Speaker 2: decades collecting Social Security benefits on her deceased mother.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we are seeing a lot of this coming up,

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Speaker 3: a lot of fraud coming up in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 3: So this is just one of the few stories that

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Speaker 3: I've actually been doing over the last several weeks. She

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Speaker 3: her name is Rose Henderson, She's sixty two years old.

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Speaker 3: She was sentenced to twelve months in one day, which

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Speaker 3: I found that very interesting. Into federal prison for fraud.

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Speaker 3: She basically her her mother passed away back in nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety six, and she continued to collect all of her

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Speaker 4: Years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, a long long time. So she kept up the game.

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Speaker 3: She would fill out whatever she needed to fill out

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Speaker 3: to show that her mother was still alive, when in

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Speaker 3: fact she wasn't.

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Speaker 1: And so then she used the money to.

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Speaker 3: Go on vacations, to go to cruises, to do large purchases,

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Speaker 1: Fun at the casinos in Northern Indiana.

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Speaker 2: So she was ordered to pay back over three hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yes, over three hundred thousand dollars. Wow, and you.

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Speaker 2: Before we let you go, because I know you're working

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Speaker 2: on some stuff. Tell us about what's going on at

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Speaker 2: the Noblesville Church.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So at Genesis Church they are doing it's

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Speaker 3: called Second Chances, and so that'll be taking place in April.

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Speaker 3: I'll actually be putting out a video about it this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: so everybody will.

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Speaker 1: Be able to find it on social media.

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Speaker 3: But it's actually a nationwide thing where people can go

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Speaker 3: in and get set up for interviews and then also

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Speaker 3: get coaching. It's related for people who need a second

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Speaker 3: chance at life when it comes to getting back into

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Speaker 3: the workforce. You know, maybe they were in prison and

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Speaker 3: they're starting from scratch and they're coming out and they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: how do I get back into society and live a safe,

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Speaker 3: healthy life?

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Speaker 1: What do I do?

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Speaker 3: And so they go to this church to go ahead

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Speaker 3: and get all of the resources that they need in

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Speaker 3: order to make those improvements in their life.

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Speaker 2: And better Together is going to be there, which is

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Speaker 2: a nonprofit that helps keep families stable through unemployment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and they do it all throughout the United States.

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Speaker 3: So there's multiple stops that they're they're doing, and so

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Speaker 3: this is just one of the very many stops that

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Speaker 3: they're doing.

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Speaker 2: And they're going to be there on Tuesday, April fourteenth. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what are you working on right now?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I have a DCS case that I'm working on.

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Speaker 3: I have a story that I'm going to be interviewing

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Speaker 3: tomorrow about a mother who has such a heartbreaking story.

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Speaker 3: Her daughter passed away a newborn and she says she

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Speaker 3: feels as though the hospital is responsible. So it's a

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Speaker 3: really deep dive. I'm going to be deep diving deep

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Speaker 3: into that to figure out exactly what was the cause

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Speaker 3: and what happened to see if I can get a

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Speaker 3: response in regards to that.

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Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, so that's just some of the

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Speaker 1: ones I've been working. All right, well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You can find all of her articles at WIBC dot com.

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Speaker 1: That is, John at Cruz. Thank you. You're listening to

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