1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Why from ball Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. Today. 3 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: I did myself and just coming from the firing room 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: just a little bit ago. On my way over here, 5 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: talked to a bunch of members of the team and 6 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: I'll say, normally when we're in the firing room working 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: over there, folks got their heads down and they're working 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: and they do doing all the business that we do 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: of the space business. But I'll say there was a 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: lot of smiles today, so it felt. 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 3: Really good about that. 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: As the team is preparing, I think everybody's pretty excited 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: and understands the significance of this launch. We did talk 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: to the flight quil last night late a briefing with them. 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: We had another one just a little bit before I 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: went down to the firing We had another briefing with 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: them last night was just to kind of go over 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: the day launch routine with them and kind of a 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: refresher for ourselves and. 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: For them, and that went really well. 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: They were in great spirits. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: And then we had another briefing today just to talk 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: about how the lunch countdown was going. And as we'll 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: talk here in a little bit, it's been going really 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: well Artemis too. 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: We're talking about the flyby of the Moon that is 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: scheduled for well, April first, which is a terrible day 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: to do. Who does a flight on April Fool's Day? 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: That is just that is not the timing I would 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: have gone for, But then again, I'm not in charge 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: of timing for NASA. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, an 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: absolute pleasure, guys, good to be with you. It's a 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: ten day mission and Artemis is about getting back to 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: the Moon. This is the first time since the Apollo program. 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: What is the point here, Well, the point is something 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: that just a good amount of thinking has brought us to, 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: and that is, if the plan is Mars right, if 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: the plan is to get to Mars an exploration of Mars, 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: how does that happen? And what has been clearly understood 40 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: is that it would be easier if you were launching 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: from the Moon First, you have a little bit of distance, 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: but really what you get is the benefit of a 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: lack of atmosphere and a lack of gravity. Not a 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: total lack of gravity, but a great lack of gravity. 45 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: If you're talking about launching, I don't claim an expertise. 46 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: I do claim an understanding that I get the mouth. 47 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: If you are talking about launching from Earth, you have 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: to overcome this gravity with a trendous metaphors and fuel, 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: and now you've got to take a flight to Mars, 50 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: which is not an easy thing to do. By the way, 51 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: I still argue large levels of impossible. If you're doing 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: it from the Moon, you have some distance you don't 53 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: have to cover. Right, You're not halfway there by any stretch, 54 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: but you got some distance you don't have to cover. 55 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: And man, is it a lot easier to punch through 56 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: whatever atmosphere may minutely exist, allowing you more opportunity, more fuel, 57 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: et cetera to get to where you're going. That is 58 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: as layman as I can get. That's really as layman 59 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: as I can understand it what you have. So the 60 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: question is is the Moon a hub from Mars? The 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Moon is a hub for a lot of things. But yes, 62 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: that is a strong possibility, and that's where a lot 63 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: of these conversations are. Now. I think it's fascinating, and 64 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: I will tell you that the Moon or NASA is 65 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: one of the It might be the only thing left 66 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: where I say, I know, government shouldn't be in this business, 67 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: per se. I know that government should spend its money 68 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: like this. I don't care do it. I think it's awesome. 69 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: The level of hypocrite you can call me on this 70 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: subject goes from now until the end of time. I accept, 71 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: I accept. I get what I'm doing, I get what 72 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I understand completely and totally. It's true. It's true. 73 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: Yet it's awesome. I think there is something to it. 74 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: I think there's something you can call it romantic. I 75 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: just think of look at what our fellow human beings 76 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: thought of as possible and then did. It's why SpaceX 77 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: is so unbelievable. These people who hate Elon Muskin call 78 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: him dumbscrew them, moron, morons, embarrassing, pathetic, low people. It's amazing. 79 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: It is all spectacular, spectacular and terrific. I just want 80 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: to see more of it. I just want to see 81 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: more of it. That's all. Love it. What I'd like 82 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: to see less of is this absolute nonsense garbage that 83 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: the Daily Mail just put out about Charlie Kirk. This 84 00:05:53,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: is truly truly disgusting what they post did over there. 85 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: The Daily Mail read's bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk 86 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: did not match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson. 87 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: New court filing claims, well, that's something that's not what 88 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: actually happened. It is an incendiary, disgusting, horrifying headline. So 89 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: it was a conspiracy. So Candice Owens was right. Hey, 90 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: let me click on this story to get more. It 91 00:06:50,560 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: is beyond a misleading headline. It's a lie because when 92 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: we take a look at what it is they found 93 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: during autopsy, they state that the result of the comparison 94 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: was inconclusive. Somehow the defense, trying to mount a defense, 95 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: wants to make a claim that this proves that it 96 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: wasn't Tyler Robinson. No, it doesn't. Atf ran as has 97 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: been reported, an analysis on the bullet jacket fragment recovered 98 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: from Charlie's autopsy, the result was inconclusive, not no match. 99 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: Those are two different things. Now, people who play in 100 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: that world might be able to give me a little 101 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: more data and a little more explanation. The jacket was 102 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: too fragmented to compare, which also partially explains the lack 103 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: of an exit wound. Inconclusive means insufficient evidence to draw 104 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: any conclusion. It does not mean that the bullet did 105 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: not match the rifle, as the headline stated, the false 106 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: inflammatory let me get some clicks headline. So now what 107 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: the defense is saying is that they want this to 108 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: be exculpatory, right, exculpatory to clear someone of guilt. But 109 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: that's not what this data does. That's not what this 110 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: data can do, not by any stretch. There are other 111 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: testings that could take place, and the defense doesn't want 112 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: those tests because they want to be able to rest 113 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 3: on something inconclusive about what it is and help their 114 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: clients who seems to have murdered Charlie Kirk. It is 115 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: beyond beyond ugly what it is that the Daily Mail 116 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: has done here. The defense is questioning how the bullet 117 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: gets matched. They're trying to defend their clients. And what 118 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: you want is to say, hey, click here. I mean 119 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: I understand that that clicks are are you know, how 120 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: do I clean this up? Clicks are prostitutes game. Honestly, 121 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: that's it's the best I can do to clean it up. 122 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: I swear to you. But this is dirty. This is 123 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: dirty and obscene, and that's what that seems to be. 124 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: Where we're at right now. We're in the dirty kind 125 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: of play, and people fine with it, solid with it. 126 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: They think that it's somehow acceptable. What part of this 127 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: will be acceptable? And no one's gonna stop reading the 128 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: Daily Mail tomorrow. What's going to happen is it's gonna 129 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 3: get quoted, it's gonna get used, It's gonna get utilized. 130 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: Bloody heck, even I will sometimes still use a CNN 131 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: story as a source. I know that CNN is full 132 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: of garbage. I'm fully aware that these people can't be trusted, 133 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: but but they do have one or two people left 134 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: who can go about doing some reporting. My god, there's 135 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: still some reporters of the New York Times. You know, 136 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: it's just that the New York Times can't be trusted. 137 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: It's it is just flat out horrifying that this would happen, 138 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: But I guess not surprising. So with that, when you 139 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: read that headline, know how nonsense it is, know how 140 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: shameful it is, and know that no, it's not what 141 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 3: it claims to be. Right now, Tyler Robinson is the 142 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: main suspect. He has the right to a defense. Bring 143 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: him on the trial on Tony Katz, And this is 144 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, tonight on the first yours truly filling 145 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: in for Shawn Spicer on the Shawn Spicer Show. That's right. 146 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: I think it's my first television show hosting, Like, yeah, 147 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: I think it is. I've appeared on a lot of TV, 148 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: but as a host, I think it's my first. I 149 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: don't know. I didn't curse. I didn't curse, and I 150 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: did not make fun of anybody's mother, although there was 151 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: a really interesting Tiger Woods joke. There was an interesting 152 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: Tiger Woods joke in there, but you'll have to catch 153 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: that on the first I will also be on the 154 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: Shawn Spicer YouTube channel. Oh yeah, Shawn Spiser, the former 155 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: Press secretary Dancing with the Stars. Shawn Spicer, very nice guy. 156 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: Has been outrageously kind to me and I greatly appreciate it. 157 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: And I got the call last night if I was 158 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: available to fill in, and so I hope he's feeling well, 159 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: and the answer was yes, happy to do it, Thrilled 160 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: to have the opportunity, So look for that. And then 161 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: I am scheduled on Newsmax tonight at six point thirty, 162 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: so that's happening as well. If you miss any of this, 163 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: you caught the podcast, you get the show late. Don't worry. 164 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: I'll have it all up on the socials so you'll 165 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: be able to see everything. And I appreciate the support 166 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: in all of those ways. I do want to get 167 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: into a Tiger Woods conversation. I do, I should, I should, 168 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: but I wanted to continue and I had the story 169 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: for you, and it is eluding me right now. It 170 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: wasn't in a answer, although there was a story that 171 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: came over that things are moving in the straight up 172 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: hor moves. No, no, no. The story was about Christy 173 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: Nomes husband. I don't know what's real and what's not. 174 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is that's going on with her, 175 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: and not everything is her fault. She has surrounded herself 176 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: with some people who aren't great, and then there are 177 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: some things that who would know. I guess I am 178 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: sometimes at a loss as to how odd people are. Now, 179 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: I've said this before and I'll say it again, and 180 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm correct here. Everybody has a fetish. Absolutely positively, everybody 181 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: has a fetish. Some are totally innocent, some are indeed sexual, 182 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: Some could be seen as dangerous, some are against the law. 183 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: The rock climber is a fetishist, so is the masochist, 184 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: just a different fetish. I don't think every fetish is 185 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: bad for you, but we should be clear that everybody's 186 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: got the thing that moves them. I may not understand 187 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: some of the things that move people in the same way. 188 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: Other people are like, what do you mean you're attracted defeat. 189 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about other people. 190 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: I am not a foot guy. I just don't think 191 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: feet are the end of the universe. Some people are like, 192 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: feet is the human body should stop at the ankle, 193 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: that's it. I like those people are like awkward it 194 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: because they're just so visceral with their hate. Some people 195 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: are really in defeat right. Some people are the Dick 196 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: Morris types. Who am I to judge? I don't go 197 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: live your life. Go find the person who's also in defeat. 198 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: Knock yourself out. Just please don't tell me about it, 199 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: don't show me, no thank you. This brings us to 200 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: a story about Christinoam's husband. This is nutty now. This 201 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: was initially reported by The Daily Mail. The same people 202 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: who reported this Charlie Kirk nonsense, and the story says 203 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: Misnome is devastated. The family was blindsided by this and 204 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: they ask for privacy and prayers at this time. What 205 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: in the world is this all about? What this is 206 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: all about is that allegedly her husband leads a cross 207 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: dressing double life. I don't know what in the world 208 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to say to this. And they're supposedly photos 209 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: out there and dressing up and the I have no idea. 210 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: And yes, I heard there are pictures out there. I 211 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: am not searching for them, if only because I would 212 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: like to sleep tonight. It is not my thing. I 213 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: do not look at this man and say what you 214 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: have done is horrifying. If it moves you and it 215 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: moves other people, I don't get involved. I don't I 216 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: don't judge it whatever. As long as you're not heard 217 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: other people, go live your life. But how is how 218 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: is this? What's the right word? I was gonna ask? 219 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: How is this possible? Maybe what I'm trying to ask 220 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: is how is it possible that amongst those who are 221 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 3: in leadership, those who are in the know, these things 222 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: happen with a level of seeming prevalence. With all due respect, 223 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: you could tell me how Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked 224 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: by a random guy with a hammer and I'll tell 225 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: you sure he was. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more. 226 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: Everybody has a fetish. You're telling me that Christinom didn't 227 00:18:52,280 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: know and then she found out because it was a website. 228 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: You say what you will. You say what you will 229 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: about Christy Nellman. Some of it I can agree with you. 230 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: That's that's awful. That is awful. If indeed Christy didn't know. 231 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: Human history doesn't change, the human condition doesn't change. They 232 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: like what they like, and some of it's legal and 233 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: some of it's not. This is Tony Katz today, Three 234 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: more things, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys, an absolute 235 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: pleasure to be with you. What is three more things? 236 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: These are things that people should be talking about on 237 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 3: the front pages, but because of other news stories not 238 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: easy to do. Things get knocked off those pages all 239 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: the time. So I make sure that we discuss them 240 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: right here. First, I take you to Rhode Island and 241 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: parduci Landa. I know you just sent me that story, 242 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: but I had that story that insanity. I appreciate you, though. 243 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: Where an artist put up a mural was paid for 244 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: by Elin Musk and honors Arena Zarutzka, who's Arena Zarutzka, 245 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: she was the Ukrainian woman murdered in North Carolina. She's 246 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: on a light rail. She's just sitting there, minding her 247 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: own business. This man, black man behind her, pulls out 248 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: a knife starts stabbing her. She looks up at him, 249 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: not anyone to know. She's realized how hurt she was, 250 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: scared out of her mind. Nobody helps her, Nobody gets 251 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: out of a seat, He walks off the train. He's 252 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: literally saying, got that white girl. And she slowly bleeds out, 253 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: and the video camera, the videos that are there show 254 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 3: her just dying right in front of you. This child 255 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: twenty something, what's good? Twenty three? Thank you? And oh, 256 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: media doesn't want to talk about this. Media doesn't want 257 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: to talk about this. Jade and Ivy, Oh, we have 258 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: to talk about him because look how he insulted gay people. 259 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: This woman got stabbed to death. That guy has an opinion. 260 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: You don't have to agree with his opinion. But we 261 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: aren't going to discuss those on the streets who are 262 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: being convicted and charged with all sorts of crimes, being 263 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: put back out on the streets. We're not gonna say, hey, 264 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 3: let's not do that. Jade and Ivy can't say something 265 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: against a Pride month because if he does, he gets 266 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: thrown off the team. I can't get the left to 267 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: notice when women are being stabbed to death. They don't 268 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: seem to care. That's some messed up priorities right there. 269 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: That's messed up stuff. We're not going to fall for that. 270 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: Musk is hiring basically a mural to be painted. The 271 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 3: mural is not done in downtown Providence, and the mayor 272 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: wants the artwork taken down and says, and I've got 273 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 3: the quote right here. The mayor states his name is 274 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: Brett Smiley. Can't make that up. The murder of the 275 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: individual depicted in this mural was a devastating tragedy, but 276 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: the misguided, isolating intent of those funding murals like this, 277 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: like the one across the county, is divisive and does 278 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: not represent Providence. What is divisive about a painting of 279 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: Arena Zarutzka? What's divisive? She was murdered, and Elon Musk 280 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: thinks people should remember her face and her name and 281 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: what happened to her, and we should a society say 282 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: we don't want this, and we're sick and tired of 283 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 3: prosecutors don't prosecute. We're sick and tired of prosecutors who 284 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: think that career criminals should get off. But if you 285 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 3: say something wrong, you just spend one hundred years in jail. 286 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: Jade and Ivy says, I don't believe in pride month. 287 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: I think it's unrighteous. Lose a job, murderer, murders, criminal, 288 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: engages in criminal activity. Why are you paying attention? You 289 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: better believe we should play in the culture wars and 290 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: we should win because they have to lose. This doesn't 291 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: match who we are. And then there's this is not 292 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: the mayor, but this is a representative of the area 293 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: saying that this mural it doesn't represent Providence values. 294 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: Ultimately, we want to make sure that every community member 295 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 4: that calls Providence home feels safe. And we can both 296 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: agree that this mural behind us does not reflect Providence's values, 297 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 4: nor does it reflect the creativity that we want to 298 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: see in our city. 299 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: Ultimately, what are you talking about? What values does Providence have? 300 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: Now we know it's Rhode Island, we know it's already 301 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: a pretty screwed up place. We know what it is. 302 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 3: We understand this leftist hot bid hotbed that it has 303 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: always been. What are you talking about? How does this 304 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: not represent your values? It's a painting, It's a painting 305 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: of a girl's face. How does it not represent your values? Yo, 306 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: you don't want to be reminded that she was murdered, 307 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: that policies that maybe you favor, representative allow these career 308 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: criminals back up on the streets. Or is the problem 309 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: that she's white? Go on, tell us mayor tell us representative. 310 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: You don't want to show the white woman who got 311 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: killed by a black man because you think that's going 312 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: to encourage racism. God, people ask me why I'm not 313 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: a liberal. That's why would I ever want to be 314 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: so broken in my soul that I think like that 315 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: ugly stuff. This brings us to the crash of Tiger Woods, 316 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: not career car again. He told police he was looking 317 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: at his phone he didn't realize the car in front 318 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: of him had slowed. He was involved in a rollover crash. 319 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: Arrested for DUI, released on bail that same night. His 320 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: land drove crossing lane. He's clipping a forward truck and 321 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 3: partially rolled over. This was his second DUI arrest and 322 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: fourth car crash that we know about. Man I'll tell 323 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 3: you what. There's been this conversation about how the PGA 324 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: has to do something and has to say something. There 325 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: has to be a punishment. And I'm pretty sure that 326 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: producer Landing correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure 327 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: they're gonna want him at the Masters. I'm pretty sure 328 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: they still want him to be out there. Correct. I 329 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: would say more than likely. I would go with more 330 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: than likely too. He if he keeps driving, he's going 331 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: to get someone killed. We're now into the place where 332 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: he's just fortunate, fortunate that no one has been killed. 333 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: But he's in this place and I don't know what 334 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: the PGA is supposed to do. I don't know how 335 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: they're how they're supposed to react. Are they supposed to 336 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: tell me you can't play in in in the in 337 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: in the Masters, You're gonna suspend them? I don't. I 338 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: don't know how that part works. Now, compared to Jade 339 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: and Ivy, this could be a conduct that's detrimental because 340 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: nobody wants to bring it. I mean, nobody who know 341 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: he wants is brought into into the UH into the tour. 342 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: But I was on the phone. That's a weird defense. 343 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: Super weird defense, then there are home listings, So the 344 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: where's the market right now? I got it, I got 345 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 3: it right here. The pre market was massive. Pre market 346 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: was massive, massive, massive. Today and there's a moment we're at, 347 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: at least at this very second, the Dow is up 348 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: nine hundred, the Nazaka is up six seventy two because 349 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: there's optimism for an end to the war in Iran. Okay, 350 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 3: now you can't get me to answer the following question, 351 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: what do you mean an end to the war? What 352 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: does an end look like? I don't know what they're 353 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: optimistic about, but sure, knock yourself out. Maybe you're optimistic 354 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: because this is war powers acting has to be wrapped 355 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: up sixty days with another thirty days to engage all 356 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: the extraction could be that as we are in the 357 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: halfway mark the thirty days of this. But but the 358 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: idea that the markets can just look at a look 359 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: at a state and be like, all right, everything's gonna 360 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: be fine. Up nine hundred too weird for words. I 361 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: would rather look at home listings in the month of February. 362 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: This is from redfin. You have six hundred and thirty 363 00:29:52,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: thousand more home sellers than buyers, and as a follow up, 364 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: half of all listings have been on the market for 365 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: sixty days plus. Now to the realtors out there, the 366 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: terminology they use is stale. I have never heard that before. 367 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: I have never heard a listing referred to as stale. 368 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: But I'm not in that world, so maybe that's how 369 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: it's used. And Miami leads the major metros in the 370 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: share of stale listings fifty two percent of listings. This 371 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: is February on the market for at least sixty days 372 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: without going under contract, highest share for the month since 373 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, which is interesting. It's a pre COVID number. 374 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: The issue is elevated mortgage rates because if I take 375 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: a look at the thirty year fixed that rate a 376 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: month ago March first was national average six point zero five. 377 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: Now you could have found for less, you could have 378 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: paid points, all sorts of things. It was six point 379 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: oh five now six point five. H it's up a 380 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: half a percent. And people are gonna say, you know what, 381 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: all Oh wait, I'll wait on that one. You have 382 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: people with cars. Car sales are down. I'll wait. We'll 383 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: see what happens with this warm with the oil prices. Yeah, 384 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: maybe's now it's not the time to buy the very 385 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: large suv like I did last month. I needed something 386 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: to move some equipment around. I needed something for work, 387 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: and I wasn't gonna be just to pick up because 388 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: I wanted something that could, you know, protect it. So 389 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: I bought used but very large, outrageously large suv and 390 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: I believe, I believe it gets three gallons to the mile. 391 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: It's very exciting. It wasn't a Humvy. That's that is 392 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: on the list, but it's lower on the list. Yeah, 393 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: it's rough out there. It's hard out here for a pimp. 394 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: It is rough out there. So you're seeing car sales 395 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: not go as fast. I got to assume with home sales, 396 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: if it's still in a certain range, people are buying. 397 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: It's just that range gets lower as interest rates get higher. 398 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: And then there was this just because I like to 399 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: be proven right. You have a former Biden staffer. I 400 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 3: do not know her, Eggwawole. You me see Eggwawole, former 401 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: Biden White House staffer. She's on TikTok and she's saying, 402 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: you know, I went to Disneyland again. These people going 403 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: to Disney What are these people wearing? How are people 404 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: going out of the house like this. They're in front 405 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: of children. Why in the world is anybody wearing chaps 406 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: at Disney as an adult? Great question. So glad you 407 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: asked the idea that there are indeed unwritten social expectations, 408 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: societal expectations that governed behavior, especially around families. Wait till 409 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: you see the amount of people who have been encouraged, 410 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: miss Eggbi Wole by your party to dismiss, deny and 411 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: get rid of all of those expectations. Look at you 412 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: invited to Look at who you invited to the White House. 413 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: Look at who you invited to the White House, and 414 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: you see the points. Yeah, yeah, I'm Tony Katz. This 415 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: is Tony Katz today. So I didn't get to the 416 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: story yesterday about the pope, and you've been hearing people 417 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: talk about this story. What is it? Pope Leo says, 418 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: God reject prayers of leaders who wage war. Oh okay, 419 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys, an absolute pleasure to 420 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: be with you. I don't expect since Pope John Paul 421 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 3: the second a Pope to be aligned with me politically, 422 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect such a thing. I have not opposed 423 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: to this pope or any pope. I leave it to 424 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: Catholics to kind of engage. Hey, they've said this this 425 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: on policy, or this on canon, or this on rights, 426 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: and I say yes, and I say no, et cetera. 427 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: But the Pope wrote or spoke that Jesus does not 428 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: listen to the prayers of those who wage war, but 429 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: rejects them, saying, even though you make many prayers, I 430 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 3: will not listen. In your hands are full of blood. 431 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: And then this is our God, Jesus, King of Peace, 432 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: who rejects war, whom no one can use to justify war. 433 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 3: That's differently whether or not a war is justifiable, but 434 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: the idea of the prayer rejected are prayers rejected of 435 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: those who would fight to end slavery, to free children 436 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: from being raped. I want the Pope to answer that question, 437 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 3: because this is so directed at Trump and Israel regarding Iran, 438 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: the people who suffer in Iran daily, the women who 439 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: suffer in Iran daily, those who are gay, who have 440 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: suffered at the hands of the regime, thrown off rooftops daily. 441 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: Does God answer those prayers? I accept that the Pope 442 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: is going to say things that the Pope says and 443 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 3: talks about bringing the world together in peace and harmony. 444 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 3: It's hard to have peace and harmony with people who 445 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: want to kill you. Sometimes you have to do horrible things. 446 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: I don't always expect the Pope to understand. I would 447 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: have expected a little out of than miss. I'm Tony Katz.