1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Why from Vall, Heartbind and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So it seems that the removal of 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel from his show has got the political left 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: somewhat upset. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Because it's just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values. Trump 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: and his allies seem to want to shut down speech 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: that they don't like to hear. That is not what 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: democracies do. That is what autocracies do. And it doesn't 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: matter whether you agree with Kimmel or not. He has 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: the right to free speech. And so it is just outrageous. 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: It is indicative of autocracy and I am just outraged 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: by it. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: The right to free speech does that mean the same 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: thing as a right to a television show? I mean, 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: is that what we're referring to here? You have you 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: have the right to free speech, so therefore you have 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: the right to be on TV and not tell the truth. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: Is this what Jimmy Kimmel gets and no one else gets? 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: And since when did the left all of a sudden 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: be believers and not the platforming people? Tony Katz, Tony 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 1: Katz today, Good to be with you, Curtis how joins 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: us right now. He is from NewsBusters, where he is 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: the managing editor. You can find his work at NewsBusters 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: dot org. The story here, Curtis takes a couple of 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: different kind of pieces to it, because there's the statements 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: of Jimmy Kimmel himself, there's the leftist reaction. There's whether 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: or not you agree with Brendan Carr and his commentary 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: on the Beny podcast the other day, and whether or 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: not the FCC should be involved in this way. But 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: let's start where all this starts from. As you monitor 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: these things and watch these things, managing editor of NewsBusters, 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: this is about Jimmy Kimmel lying or is this about 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: a joke regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk. 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a combination of all of these things. Tony. 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: I would say that the pressure from the FCC is 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: not something that should be the thrust of why they 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 4: made this decision. We looked at the Stephen Colbert cancellation. 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: The show costs about one hundred million. It was only 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: bringing in half that, so it was losing a lot 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: of money every year for a staff of two hundred people. 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: You would think it's something very similar with Jimmy Kimmel, 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: And you add in the fact that Jimmy takes summers 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: off and he has a series of fill in hosts, 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: and this is a husband and wife combination. His wife 45 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: is the head writer at that show. But I think 46 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: the Sinclair and Next Star moves. Those are two major 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: TV local TV conglomerates that own many a huge percentage, 48 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: overwhelming percentage of the local ABCCBSNBC, Fox EW affiliates across 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 4: the county. They had made the decision to not show this. 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: Now the left has been saying that there's a grand 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: conspiracy afo it because they're trying Next Star, which actually 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: owns the good people at NewsNation as well. They are 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: trying to buy the Tegna stations, which is another smaller one. 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: Uh So they are trying to receive FCC approval and 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: thus they think they did the Sisius to curry favor 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 4: and then Sinclair. 57 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of conservatives. But you look at the. 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: Substance of Kimmel's comments, it was deeply offensive. He was 59 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: trying to suggest a conspiracy theory and be it wasn't 60 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: even funny saying Trump's behaving like a four year old, 61 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: like what does that even mean? 62 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: It was don't so pathetic. 63 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: I don't disagree about Kimmel, And certainly I would love 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: a gig where I make millions when I get summers off. 65 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: That is, that's pretty dreamy. Talking to Curtis Howk of 66 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: NewsBusters checking out for yourself NewsBusters dot org. But you 67 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: mentioned Nextstar, you mentioned and Claire the deal that next 68 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Our is trying to engage with Tegna and the purchase 69 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: of a whole bunch of stations there. And are they 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: now moving the affiliates to not carry Kimmel to curry 71 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: favor with the Trump administration, which I would say is 72 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: it would be a tremendous issue if indeed was the case. 73 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: But in the in the conversation of the timeline, were 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: the affiliates moving first, or was Brendan Carr, the head 75 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: of the FCC, making this statement first? With chicken or egg? 76 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Which one came first in this reaction to Jimmy Kimmel's 77 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: comments about how the killer was clearly part of MAGA, 78 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: when of course that's a. 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: Line they're trying to suggest that there's a cupall afoot. 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: The left is trying to suggest that there's conspiracy theory 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: a foot between Brendan Carr and these affiliate ownership groups 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: and the FCC and the Trump administration that it's a 83 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: if you fire Kimmel or you pull Kimmel from the air, 84 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: will approve this. It was much the situation with Stephen 85 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: Colbert and sky Dance, the Ellison family buying CBS's parent company, Paramount. 86 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: That was the suggestion there as well. 87 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: Also, I would just say, like, looking at the ratings 88 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: in the second quarter, Gottfeld was pulling in about three 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: point two million viewers, I believe, and Kimmel. 90 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: Was less than half that. 91 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: And so and obviously Fox News a cable network not 92 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: subject to the same FCC scrutiny as ABCCBSNBC, and also 93 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: appears in way less homes than ABC does. I'll just 94 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: add our two things that we found. My beat writer 95 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: Alex Christy, who's been all over the Late Night show 96 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: since September twenty twenty two, has found that since he 97 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: started tracking guests September twenty twenty two through the end 98 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: of June, Kimmel had fifty eight liberal Democrats on the 99 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: show versus two conservative Republicans, and in both cases were 100 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: Mike Lindell being willing to be mocked, and so on 101 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: and so forth. And in twenty twenty four, Kimmel told 102 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: three three hundred and thirty three political jokes. Of those, 103 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: three thousand and fifty one were aimed at the right 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: ninety two percent. And the last thing I'll just say 105 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: this to me is, Jimmy Kimmel is going to be 106 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: allowed to if he doesn't come back, go on and do. 107 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: Whatever he wants. Guy, he's still alive. 108 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: He's still alive. Charlie Kirk is not alive. Jimmy Kimmel 109 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: is alive. He is free to go about his life 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: a SECS fit. He's going to be fine. He's a 111 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: multimillionaire in Hollywood with plenty of friends. 112 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: Talking to Curtis how of NewsBusters dot Org, part of MRC. 113 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: That is the point. And I took a respectable bit 114 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: of umbrage with Mike Brobiglia, a comic who was quoted 115 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: in Variety by saying, anybody doesn't stand up for Jimmy 116 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: Kimmel doesn't actually believe in free speech. And I'm a 117 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: comic and I've set up for a lot of comics, 118 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: but this is a different argument. Nobody is stating that 119 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel doesn't still oone comedy clubs in Vegas and 120 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: won't be able to get on stage, we won't be 121 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: able to have a YouTube channel, won't be able to 122 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: do a whole series of things or get picked up 123 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: by another network. No one is making that argument. The 124 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: question is how did he come to be on the 125 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: ounce of ABC. I agree with you on ratings. I 126 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: agree with you on the lack of funny. I agree 127 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: with you, and I I appreciate the numbers on the 128 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: number of times he had this kind of guest versus 129 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: that kind of guest, the number of jokes here for 130 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: some number of jokes there. It's a hard work putting 131 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: all that data together. Good job by you and Christy 132 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: and that entire team. But the question before us is 133 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: when we get into this conversation about deplatforming, it was 134 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: the political left that was overjoyed to engage a level 135 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: of deplatforming. You had Representative Acossio Cortes saying that it 136 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: was about time that there was some deplatforming. And if 137 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: you never heard what it is that representative of Ocosio 138 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Cortes said, let me play this to you for you, 139 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: This was to X. 140 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News. Couldn't have happened 141 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: to a better guy. 142 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: What I will say though, is. 143 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 5: Well, I'm very glad that the person that was arguably 144 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: responsible for the some of the largest driving some of 145 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 5: the most amounts of death threats and violent threats not 146 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 5: just to my office but to plenty of people across 147 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: the country. I also kind of feel like I'm waiting 148 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: for the cut scene at the end of a Marvel movie, 149 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: after all the credits have rolled, and then you see 150 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: like the villains like hand. 151 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 6: Re emerge out to grip over like the end of 152 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 6: a building or something. But deep platforming works, and it 153 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 6: is important, And. 154 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: There you go. 155 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Deep platforming works, Curtis. That's the words the Democratic Party 156 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago, regards what you think 157 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: of Tucker Carlson, but they were very much into this, 158 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: and you had a Biden administration working over time with 159 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: Facebook on this story. Curtis. 160 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do love. 161 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: The fact that she kind of seems to almost imply like, oh, yeah, 162 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: this might come back to bite us, but like, ah, 163 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 4: who cares. 164 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: It's worth it. It's worth it in the end. 165 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: And I would add another one specific ABC, Roseanne Bart. 166 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: Roseanne Bart was let go by ABC a second time, 167 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: and it was many of the same people celebrating this 168 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: entire thing. 169 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: Wait, look, the most important. 170 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm walking through it because I want to 171 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: make sure I remember properly. I remember she got let go, 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: but I don't remember the circumstances. 173 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: I believe she said something particularly racist or offensive. 174 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: Or believed to be racist or of fantasy, Yeah, something 175 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: like that. 176 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: But the point was she was let go, and they 177 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 4: said it's a private company making decisions about who it 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 4: wants to employ, and everybody was just generally fine with that. 179 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: But I think the most important thing for viewers to 180 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: underline is the fact that, uh, the media here, they 181 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: are celebrated. They are more mournful of Jimmy Kimmel losing 182 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 4: his job than they were about Charlie Kirk losing his life. CNN, 183 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: MSNBC last night, with the exception of one of MSNBC 184 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: shows that was pre taped ahead of time, it was 185 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 4: wall to wall wall to wall with Kimmel last night. 186 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: Nothing there, Uh it is Uh, it was pathetic to 187 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: see and it really shows the priorities that these people 188 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 4: have that you know, in terms of where they what 189 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 4: interests them, what interests them. You know that kim O 190 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: lives uh and Kirk doesn't. But again after remind folks, 191 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: this is just a TV show. It is just a 192 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: TV show. 193 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Walk walk me through that one. Talking to Curtis how 194 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Ofnewsbusters dot Org, part of MRC, and Roseanne was fired 195 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: because it was a joke about Valerie Jarrett the Obama aid, 196 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: referring to her as the offspring of and this is 197 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: the quote, I will say, the quote from Variety A 198 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: characterizing her as the offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and 199 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes. And I mean, it is an 200 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: offensive thing to say. I believe what Roseanne said is 201 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: that I didn't know she was even black, and then 202 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: it kind of exploded from there. So one could argue 203 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: that it was an offensive thing to say. But the 204 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: follow up argument is to your point, whereas the Leaf 205 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: was like, well, it's a private company, they can do 206 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: what they want. The question here is about the FCC 207 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: involvement in the Brendan Carr statements. But you brought up 208 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: something and I'll get to that. That's very interesting. You're 209 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: talking about this in relationship to Charlie Kirk, because of 210 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: course that's where the statement comes from in his assassination. 211 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: Is it your view, as you monitor so many of 212 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the things as you do over there at NewsBusters, that 213 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: the left is unwilling to recognize the popularity of Kirk? 214 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Are they unwilling to say that murder is wrong? Are 215 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: they unwilling to upset a progressive audience that might vilify 216 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: them for noticing that murder is wrong because you don't 217 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: like what somebody's saying. They're having a hard time with 218 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: just being rationally normal about saying that assassination is not 219 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: an answer to how we do things in America. What 220 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: is your take on what's keeping them from that? What 221 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: brings Jimmy Kimmel to want to say that I'm going 222 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: to lie about who assassinated Kirk? Because well, for name 223 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: the reason? 224 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, first of all, the easy answer 225 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: is he's friends with a lot of them. Jay Tapper 226 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 4: was particularly emotionally aggrieved yesterday both on his show and 227 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: he did a little murrow as he likes to call it. 228 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: He did a monologue from his house wearing a Philly's 229 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 4: City Connects sweatshirt, talking about how evil was in the 230 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 4: Grand conspiracy a foot between Next Star and Sinclair and tag. 231 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: Nun, Brandon Carr and everything else. 232 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 4: But I think at a much deeper level, Tony, it 233 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 4: has to do with the facts that many of these 234 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: people they derive their happiness or lack thereof, from politics, 235 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: whether they are in power or not, whether they are 236 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: engaging in institutional capture or not. And what twenty twenty 237 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: four has shown and what the last week has been 238 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: another reminder tragically, is that to them that they are 239 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: not in control. And so you look at the media 240 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: coverage and this is something I've been thinking about a lot, 241 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 4: which is that they've been on this interesting path in 242 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: just eight days. When it first happened, you saw some 243 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: people because it was a shocking event. And this is 244 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: the interesting thing that happens when a shocking, tragic event happens, 245 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 4: or breaking news event happens that's unexpected. A profession that 246 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: thrives on group think has to fight. It's every man 247 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: or woman for himself. They sometimes and actually offer genuine, solid, smart, 248 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: thoughtful reactions, and we saw that from some people. Brian 249 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: Stelter pointed out that this country really only works if 250 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: we solve our disagreements with words, not violence, but you 251 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: had other people Matt Dowd, Katie Turr talked about hateful 252 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: thoughts and calling them controversial, and the lightning rod and 253 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: so on and so forth. 254 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: And then they try to say it was a right winger, 255 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: which is where Jimmy Kimmel comes in. 256 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: And then they were trying to say the shooter himself 257 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: is responsible for his actions, unlike what they tried to 258 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: do after, say the El Paso mass shooting at the walmart, 259 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: where they said, oh, President Trump likely inspired this deranged 260 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: xenophobic person because Trump wants to build the wall. But 261 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: now it's the power of love. And they're trying to 262 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: between Matt Gutman the video clip that I found first 263 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: from ABC and Montel Williams on CNN a. 264 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: Few nights ago. They're trying to say murderers or people too. 265 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: I told Doctor Drew yesterday. But it just shows that 266 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: they are so they have no true moral compass. 267 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 4: While they do have a moral compass, but it's for 268 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: only for themselves and for their own ideology. And because 269 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: Kimmel is part of that apparatus, right, he's the guy 270 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: who does their fundraisers and so on and so forth, 271 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: they see that as a personal attack on them, and 272 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: they refuse to realize or accept the fact that a 273 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: lot of people don't feel that way. And last thing, 274 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: I'll just say that because this ties into people getting 275 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: fired from their jobs because of people celebrating the Charlie 276 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: Kirk assasination. It's like these people have never heard of 277 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: company code of conducts. You know, Yes, people are gonna 278 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: get fired from your jobs. If you walk into your 279 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: boss's office and you curse them out and you talk 280 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: about how they're a horrible person. 281 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: You know, like that that's going to happen. 282 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: You sexually harass someone at the office, probably going to 283 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: get fired. It's it's very much the same kind of 284 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: thing in terms of yeah, company code of conduct or else. 285 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: You can't just say free speech. 286 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: I've got more with Curtis Hawk from NewsBusters dot org 287 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: coming up. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is 288 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. 289 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Continuing the conversation with Curtis Howck of NewsBusters dot org. 290 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today. Want to get into a 291 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: conversation about Brendan Carr. I want to hear more about 292 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: the affiliates that decided to drop Jimmy Kimmel, and I'm 293 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: curious to hear from more of these affiliates about what 294 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: they thought about what Kimmel was putting on the air 295 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: every day. But this brings us to Brendan Carr, the 296 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: chair of the Chief of the FCC Federal Communications Commission. 297 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: In your view, his comments on the podcast about the 298 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: affiliate should be paying attention to this and we need 299 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: to stand up to this, and we need to do 300 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: something about this. In your view, did he go too far? 301 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: I would say what he said is correct. I would 302 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: say the easy way or the hard way part is 303 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: going to be karate chopped by the left. That's probably 304 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: the only thing I would say. We can do this 305 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 4: the easy way or the hard way. That's the only 306 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 4: clip that I've really seen that's come back to bite 307 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: him in the twenty four Hours from the Benny Show. 308 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: But otherwise what he said is correct. 309 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 4: In fact, I was just having a conversation with one 310 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: of my colleagues, the great Dan Schneider, about this. 311 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: I took a bunch of classes in college. 312 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: Now you know, this was I was twenty ten to 313 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen at Great Penn State University, and so a 314 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: lot of the media classes I took, they pointed this 315 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: out about the FCC, that the broadcast networks. And this 316 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: is where Brendan Carr has been masterful as FCC chairman, 317 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 4: educating the public because what he's saying is entirely factual. 318 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: It's not going to get fact checked because these fact 319 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: checkers know it's true when they don't want to give 320 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: them credit for saying this, ABC, CBS, NBC radio stations. 321 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 4: They operate under different rules. They are granted licenses over 322 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: the airwaves, in television's case via the old proverbial rabbit 323 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: ears by the FCC. 324 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: They have to operate in the interest of the public good. 325 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: They have to provide educational programming, whereas CNN, MSNBC, you 326 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: know Current TV. Back in the day with Al Gore, 327 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: those networks operated separately. So any left is that you 328 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: may see on Blue Ski or one of these other 329 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: places trying to say they're going to come for CNN 330 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: or The New York Times, the FCC is going to 331 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 4: drag them down. That is not really a thing, because 332 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: they operate under a wholly separate, different set of rules 333 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: than everyone else. Is more up to the cable companies 334 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: and the providers, to the streamers about whether they are 335 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: given platforms or not. Where's ABCCBSNBC are whole separate category 336 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: and therefore their bar in terms of what their programming 337 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 4: has to meet is way higher. 338 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you that I understand and I agree. 339 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: But those people who are concerned about going after some 340 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: of these platforms, they're the ones who told us if 341 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: we didn't like Twitter, why don't we start our own 342 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: and they started Parlor and then they said, well, we're 343 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: not going to allow that on the app app store, this, 344 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: that and the other, and they did that safety platforming 345 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: of actual entire platforms, not just people. The Curtis how 346 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: Cavnewsbusters dot org. I appreciate taking the time to be 347 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: with us. More coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is 348 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. President Trump continues the trip through the UK, 349 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: the big dinner with King Charles that took place just 350 00:19:54,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: last night, and now getting ready for a press conference 351 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: with the Prime Minister. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good 352 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: to be with you. Find everything over at Tony Katz 353 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: dot com. The story of the dinner last night I 354 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: thought was something else because President Trump said this, and 355 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't think enough credence has been given to this 356 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: where the President speaking in front of King Charles and 357 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: the assembled guests, and everyone's in their fancy tuxes and 358 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the pomp and circumstance. Listen to the 359 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: statement from the President. 360 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 7: We're joined by history and faith, by love and language, 361 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 7: and by transcendent ties of culture, tradition, ancestry, and destiny. 362 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 7: We're like two notes in one chord, or two verses 363 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 7: of the same poem, each beautiful on its own, but 364 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 7: really meant. 365 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: To be played together. 366 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 7: The bond of kinship and identity between America and the 367 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 7: United Kingdom is priceless and eternal. 368 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: It's irreplaceable and unbreakable. 369 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 7: And we are as a country, as. 370 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: You're now, doing unbelievably well. We had a very. 371 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 7: Sick country one year ago and today I believe were 372 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 7: the hottest country anywhere in the world. In fact, nobody's 373 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 7: even questioning it. But we owe so much of that 374 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 7: to you and the footing that you gave us when 375 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 7: we started together. We've done more good for humanity than 376 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 7: any two countries in all of history. Together, we must 377 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 7: defend the exceptional heritage that makes us who we are, 378 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 7: and we must continue to stand for the values and 379 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 7: the people of the English speaking world, and. 380 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: We do indeed stand for that. On behalf of all Americans. 381 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 7: I offer a toast to one of the great friendships, 382 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: to two great countries, and to his Majesty King Charles 383 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 7: the Third, a very very special man and also a 384 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 7: very very special queen. Thank you very much, thank you, 385 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 7: thank you very much. 386 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: He's always saying thank you very much. That was a 387 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: very interesting statement. I mean, don't get me wrong, a 388 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: little bit of ramble there. I mean, that's what President 389 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: Trump does. Of course, he's going to talk about how 390 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: great America is a he there is no moments where 391 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: he's not going to engage something absolutely like that. But 392 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: the statement regarding the English speaking world, we must continue 393 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: to stand for the values and the people of the 394 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: English speaking world. This is Donald Trump making the statements 395 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: to the King out loud that we have got a 396 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: threat regarding Western civilization or against Western civilization from Islamis 397 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: and we have to do something about it. This was 398 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: not I think some people might take that as here 399 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: he is talking about we have to protect Christians. I 400 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: don't think that's the argument here. I think this is 401 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: the most full throat. It is an interesting way to 402 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: say it, statement of you are losing your nation because 403 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: you have lost your mind, and we need to stop this, 404 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: and the only way to stop this is to admit 405 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: that Islamists are not compatible with the Western way of life, 406 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: not compatible with the English speaking world, which is the 407 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: Western world, and they must be defeated and we must 408 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: do something about that. Now you've heard me say this 409 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: before on more than one occasion. It goes without question, 410 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: as clear as the day is long, as clear as 411 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm standing here right now, that the UK has been overrun, 412 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: and that King William, when he becomes king, will be 413 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: the last king. He'll be the very last king. There 414 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: will be no King George. It won't happen because the 415 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: country will be overtaken. The country will go down in ruins, 416 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: and the Islamist, because conquest is part of the Quran, 417 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: will tear down every vestige of the British Empire or 418 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: whatever there is left of it, every vestige of Buckingham Palace, 419 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: every vestige there is a Parliament, every piece of art. 420 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: Not because I'm some kind of bigot, how dare you? 421 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: How dare they? No, it's because I've read a book 422 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: and this is how it works. This is how it 423 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: happens time and time and time and time again. This 424 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: is it in its totality. That's what is coming. So 425 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: what's your plan? Would you like to see your son 426 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: be the last king? Or would you like to know 427 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: in your heart of hearts that your grandson will take 428 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: the throne that your mother sat on and did everything 429 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: to protect everything that is except say to the government, 430 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Do you want to be Britons 431 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: or not? What a statement? What a line? That is 432 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: a line worthy of Reagan, and it is impressive that 433 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: it got said. My problem is is that I doubt 434 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: very highly that it will be discussed, and it needs 435 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: to be. They will argue, and you know who they are, 436 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: that you are an islamophobe for saying such things Sharia 437 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: and Islamists are incompatible with Western civilization. It is just 438 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: a fact. I will not be called any name, and 439 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: I do not care about the name. The facts remain, 440 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: and the reason they call you a name is to 441 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: keep you from speaking such truth out loud. Nope, we're 442 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: going to have this conversation to the end, You'll notice 443 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: I didn't say Muslims, I said is Lomists. There is 444 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: a difference, and one could argue that the entirety of 445 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: the religion of Islam could go through a reformation that 446 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: might be good for it and more elucidating in engaging 447 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: these different concepts in different philosophies and the issues they're in. 448 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue against I would actually support 449 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: a reformation. I would support a Hey, do we all 450 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: know what we're saying here? Well, Tony, there are billions 451 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: of Muslims, and there are only this many who are radicalized, 452 00:26:53,359 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: only this many? How many Muslims in the world. Just 453 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: so you understand your numbers, Just so you understand your numbers, 454 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: there are two billion Muslims in the world. Is that right? 455 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: Is that the number? 456 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: I mean? 457 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: I've got to hear from Few Research Center Global count 458 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two billion Muslims, five point eight billion 459 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: non Muslims. Okay, so now how many radicalized? What we 460 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: could talk about radicalized Christians. We can't talk about radicalized Muslims. 461 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: Of course we can. We're gonna talk about anybody radicalized 462 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: that we choose to. You just got to have the conversation. 463 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Honestly and clearly, that's it. But if you have two 464 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: billion Muslims, what percentage of radicalized is okay with you? 465 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: One percent sevy twenty million, twenty million, one percent of 466 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: two billion, ten percent is two hundred million, and one 467 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: percent is twenty million. That's a lot. If it was 468 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: just one percent, that would be a lot. And what 469 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: is radicalized radicalized? Our being adherents and believers and concepts 470 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: of Sharia and the abuse that it brings it. It's 471 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: in their own teaching. So now we have to ask 472 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: ourselves when I talk about reformation, am I so off base? 473 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: It's the argument that one could use for the Bible 474 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: for Christians that Okay, we believe these tenants, we believe 475 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: these things, but the whole stoning of people who do X, 476 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: Y z A, we're not into that anymore. Now, one 477 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: could argue that you're picking and choosing, and I'll leave 478 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: others to that issue. Faith ain't easy, booboo. But when 479 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: we talk about, well, we follow these tenants here, but 480 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: we don't do these things here, That's what I'm referring to. 481 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: At what moments has Islam done this? And it's a 482 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: worthy question that can be had. There's nothing hateful about that. 483 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: But if you ask me, do I have an issue 484 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: with Islamists who believe in Sharia, who think that those 485 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: who aren't Muslims should pay the jija, who believe that 486 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: they should be able to engage in conquest. If I 487 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: have an issue with those who take over territories throughout 488 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: history and put up their own statues or put up 489 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: their own monuments like the Dome of the Rock, and 490 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: claim this was ours and therefore it will always be 491 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: ours even if we're thrown out years later, well, then yes, 492 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: yes I do. I'm engaged in a historical conversation and 493 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: talking about religions of the world and how things have 494 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: played out. You want me to apologize? That sounds crazy. 495 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: Why in the world would I apologize for honesty. The 496 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: conversation that Donald Trump is having is that conversation Islamist 497 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: incompatible with Western civilization, with the English speaking world. That 498 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: is what I believe he was talking about. That's what 499 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: I believe he was saying. Now, maybe when asked about it, 500 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: he sees it differently and he says, well, no, no, 501 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: it's actually this that I meant to say. Maybe maybe, 502 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: but until that time. This is my take, and I 503 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: think it's a very important thing he said to the King. 504 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: And I only hope that the King and the Prince 505 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: take that message to heart and turn to their people 506 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: on a purely honest, emotional, self preservation level and say, 507 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: forget Sadik Khan, the mayor of London, forget this madness. 508 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: We are Britons. We are here to stay. The empire 509 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: does not fall on our watch. Made a mistake and 510 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: we must correct. Do you think that affects the whole 511 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: of Britain? Absolutely not. Do you think it affects people 512 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: who are trying to destroy Britain and destroy Western civilization? 513 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely does. Do you think there'll be a fight that ensues, 514 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: You bet. Our lives going to be lost. Absolutely But 515 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: you did this to yourself, Great Britain, and you must correct. 516 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: You must correct the problem, which we can be clear, 517 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: is a problem. No one denies it. Only the people 518 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: who want to engage further conquest will say, well, you're 519 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: in Islamophobe, you're this or that. No one of a 520 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: rational mind denies this. History is on my side. The 521 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: facts on the ground are on my side. Can you 522 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: live in a pluralist society. Can you live with all 523 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: religions absoluolutely? Can you live with people who believe they 524 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: should dominate you and subjugate you because of their religious beliefs? 525 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. 526 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 8: Today Fox News has severed bow ties with Tucker Carlson. 527 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 8: After all these years. They are parting ways, which means 528 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 8: he was fired. I mean, that's really what parting ways means. 529 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 8: Tucker couldn't be reached for comment. He's already on a 530 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 8: plane to Moscow to meet with his manager. 531 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: But what a shock, I mean, what an absolutely delightful shock. 532 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: This is Now Tucker can spend more time at home 533 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: tanning his testicles and touching himself to that sexy green 534 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: M and M. 535 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 8: Sadly, he's probably not done poisoning old people's brains. 536 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: The question now is where will he do it next? 537 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: Will he go to Oa n Will he go to Newsmax? 538 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: Will he crawl back up Satan's fiery bee hole? From 539 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: whence he came? We don't know. 540 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 8: One of the most despicable mother Tuckers ever to appear 541 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 8: on American television. 542 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: And this is why I will not shed a tear 543 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: for Jimmy Kimmel cheering Tucker Carlson being listen. I think 544 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: Tucker's gone down a dark path. I am not a fan. 545 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm not a believer. Nothing he says I would ever 546 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: give its credence. Those days are over, but at least 547 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: there was a moment as opposed to you, Jimmy Kimmel, 548 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 549 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: I have no issue with him being fired and absolutely 550 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: the affiliates being in revolt because Jimmy Kimmel engaged in 551 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: a conversation that is revolting, lying about who assassinated Charlie Kirk. 552 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: That's just the end thing. That's the final straw. It's 553 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: been a massive history of just abuse of half an audience, 554 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 1: half of America. I've always stated that these late night 555 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: shows were nothing more than a wink and a nod 556 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: to the fellow travelers, saying, yeah, I know, we have 557 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: to do this news product for sometimes we gotta be 558 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: honest about things. But you know where we really are, 559 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: and that's why we've got these late night guys to 560 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: deliver the hammer we do in the mornings, with the 561 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: view we do in the evenings of Jimmy Kimmel, we're 562 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: really on your side, Progressive. He wasn't any good at 563 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: the thing. He wasn't interested in the comedy of the thing. 564 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: He might have told a good joke every now and again, 565 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: but he wasn't interested in actually entertaining. He was taking 566 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: talking points directly from the political left, directly from Senator 567 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: Schumer when it came to healthcare. They admitted as much, 568 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: and he was indeed lying about what happened with Charlie 569 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Kirk there, and it was clearly for affiliates, we're done here, 570 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: We're done now. 571 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 9: I'm not a fan of what Brendan Carr, the head 572 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 9: of the FCC, did on the Benny Johnson podcast with 573 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 9: this the affiliate should really be looking into him. 574 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to see that from the FCC. What 575 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: happens when the left controls of the FCC and they 576 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: say we really should be looking into Tony Katz today 577 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: and all the affiliates to carry his show. I engage 578 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: on his conversations. I'm not going to have to concern 579 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: myself with whether or not I present a conversation and 580 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: then my point of view. I don't have to lie 581 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: to get ratings or get laughs as opposed to Jimmy Kimmel. 582 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: But that won't matter when they decide to come for you, 583 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: utilizing the full force of the government. That's what I oppose, 584 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: and I think that Brendan Carr was wrong. I do 585 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: not think it is wrong to say, we have these 586 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: standards and these rules, and we have to now go 587 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: apply them. I don't think it's wrong for the affiliates 588 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: to say it's enough, he's a disgusting person. It's over ABC. 589 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's wrong that ABC said we're 590 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: done with you now. I just hope they stick to it. 591 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: But we should be clear. If you think that this 592 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: is a free speech conversation, who in the world is 593 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: keeping Jimmy Kimmel from going on tour or engaging a 594 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. No one, of course, he can still speak. 595 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: ABC doesn't have to platform him, though. I mean, that's 596 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: what the left he's been telling us for years. Find 597 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: everything at Tony Katz the new Substact. You'll see that 598 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: soon tomorrow. Everyone take care