1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Look, you could say whatever you want as a politician, 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: and you can deceive and deflect for a little while, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: but there reaches a point where you can't make people 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: not believe their own existence they experience every single day. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's where Trump is with the economy 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: right now. 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: So there's a new poll that came out from Fanny 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: May and it says nearly seventy percent of Americans believe 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: the US economy is on the wrong track. And that's 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: up from sixty four percent in August. 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: What's the number, seventy percent? Okay, so that's not I mean, 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: that's you got Republicans in on that. That's not a 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: partisan thing. And as Trump are kind of found out 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and Biden Kamala found out in twenty 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: four and many other politicians have found out throughout the 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: history of this country, the economy is usually the primary 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: factor in how people vote because it's the thing they 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: experience every single day. Look, you can and should be 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: invested in a secure border. We all have a benefit 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: of that. We should all cheerlead for it, we should 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: all do our part to help it. But the reality 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: is you're not likely to encounter hopefully a dangerous illegal 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: immigrant in your day to day life, and obviously many 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: people do. It goes horrible. We've laid out those cases. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: These people have no place in our society. We should, 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: you know, catch them, get rid of them, punish them. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: Right. 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: So it's an important issue, But you don't experience that 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: every single day. Or the Israel Israel Hamas conflict. You 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: may be an ardent supporter of Israel, but don't you know, 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: you don't experience that every day, or Ukraine, Russia, whatever. 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: The economy is something that hits you every single day, 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: every time you go to the store, every time you 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: go to work. It is always front and so and 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: what Trump is doing right now and maybe in the 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: long terminal workout, but front and center for people, it 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: is not working. 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: Only thirty two percent of the people who are questioned 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: expect their finances to improve over the next year. And 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: they kind of they broke this survey down into different parts. 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: One was the overall sentiment of the economy. They also 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: got into the housing market, also the labor market, and 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: then just some overall takeaways, also renting in mortgage. There's 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: something else that I wanted to bring. 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 4: To the table. 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: In the discussion about the economy, and that is electricity prices. 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: Axios put out their survey and they said they don't 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: have Indiana on the list, which is interesting. There are 49 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: a few states that they just skipped over. So we'll 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: go to our neighboring states. Pennsylvania electricity prices have skyrocketed 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: forty five percent in the past year. When you look 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: at Ohio, they're an increase of forty two percent, Kentucky 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: five percent, Illinois forty percent, Michigan twenty eight percent. So 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: you have to imagine that Indiana is going to be 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: somewhere between twenty five and forty five percent increase in 56 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: the electricity prices. And of course they attribute that to 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: the data centers which are causing all the prices to skyrocket. 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: But when you take your electricity prices and your grocery 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: prices and the fact that mortgage rates are pretty. 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: Stagnant, Yeah, people are. 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: Looking at their own, you know, bills that are coming 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: in and what's coming in on their paycheck. 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: Their paycheck's unchanged, yet the bills are increasing. 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I think the biggest problem in this conversation or in 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: this in this well, in this conversation, but in This 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: issue is our politicians are so rotten and dishonest and 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: have so little respect for the people because all they 68 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: really care about is getting reelected. And they have recognized 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: that most people will let some future generation which the 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: future generation stuff is kind of here now, suffer so 71 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: that they can have something. People want to believe they 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: can have something for nothing, or you can give something 73 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: to someone without taking it from somebody else. And you're 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: always taking Whenever the government does something, they're taking it 75 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: from somebody else because either you're taking money and paying 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: for it somebody pays tax and they pay for it, 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: or you're printing money which means daft deficits or future taxes. 78 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Somebody will pay for it down the line, and now 79 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: we're all paying for it in terms of inflation. Casey, 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: you live in a house with a sports nut. So 81 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm guessing at some point in your life you have 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: seen the movie Hoosiers. Correct, there is a look I 83 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: guess I can spoiler alert at this point. The movie 84 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: is forty years now. For a while, Gene Hackman. It 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: is based on loosely on the mile and State championship 86 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: team in which Bobby Plump was the real character. The 87 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: small school, hits the shot wins the championship, and they 88 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: made this movie around it, which is based very loosely 89 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: on it. There's many people who never existed or what. 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: But Gene Hackman comes in to coach this basketball team 91 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: which is based on myelin and totally none of this 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 1: ever actually happened. It's not not the way it actually 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: went down. He comes in and changes everything that the 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: team is doing, and people are outraged. And there's this 95 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: conversation he's having in the movie where he talks about 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: his coaching philosophy and he basically says what this team 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: is doing now is not capable of winning championships, and 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: in order to get this team to where they can 99 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: win a championship, and the line is, I've got to 100 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: break him down and I got to build build him 101 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: back up, ye right, And the people are outraged and 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: he does all these things, and then finally the kids 103 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: start buying into what he's doing. But he has the 104 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: honest conversation with the public about you're not gonna like 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: this in the beginning. It's not going to be pleasant, 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: and here's what we have to do to get this 107 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: team back on track. That is what we need in 108 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: this country. We need politicians, starting with the President of 109 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the United States, to have the intestinal fortitude, the guts, 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and the courage to say everything is so broken. We 111 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: have broken this country beyond repair that it cannot be salvage. 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: It's weirdly sort of the same thing with property taxes. 113 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: You'll never fix the property tax system in Indiana. It's 114 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: too broken. And instead of having that honest conversation, we 115 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: just keep saying, well, if we did this, or we 116 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: tinker around the edges with that, the philosophies of our government, 117 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: the actions of our government have broken our economy now 118 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: to the point we're in an honest fashion it cannot 119 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: be fixed without being broken down and built back up. 120 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: And nobody's going to do that because they don't want 121 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: to play the short term political costs, the pain people 122 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: would have to feel to get the economics of our 123 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: nation back on solid footing. 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: Well, some people would argue that that is in fact 125 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: what Donald Trump is doing with the tariffs. 126 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: But he's not stopping spending money. 127 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: He's breaking it down to h this is the breaking 128 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: it down phase. 129 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: I would buy it if he would stop spending the 130 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: money and shrink the government. If he said, look, there's 131 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: a you know, a three or four part approach, and 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: tariffs are one of them. But I'm also over here 133 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna balance our budget. We're gonna get rid of all 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: the wasteful spending. We're gonna have honest conversations about social 135 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: security and Medicare and all these things that we're gonna 136 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: make the Okay, I'm on board with the tariffs. But 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: the tariffs do you laid out the number was? It 138 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: was a couple billion dollars right like it was in 139 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: the billions that the revenue that it's turning, which is nothing. 140 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: You're running trillion dollar plus annual deficits. It's nothing. Even 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: if you used all that money to pay down the debt. 142 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: If he came to me and said every penny you'll 143 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: go to pay down, which he did at one point, 144 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: but of course we knew that. 145 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: Was gonna last change his mine. 146 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: If every penny was gonna pay down the debt and 147 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: we were gonna balance our budget and we were actually 148 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: going to peel back some of our nation's debt and 149 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: we were gonna get inflation under control, I would be 150 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: in on that. But the tariffs are just going to 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: prop up government programs they're going to have to potentially 152 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: see some level of peel back during the shutdown. He's 153 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: not doing any of that. The economy means an economy 154 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: for rich people, in which the tippy top people are 155 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: going to continue to get ahead or continue to thrive, 156 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: continue to elevate their wealth, and you, the middle class, 157 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: are shrinking out of the middle class. 158 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the housing market outlook. Only 159 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: twenty seven percent of people say it's a good time 160 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: to buy a home. Mortgage rates remain around six percent. However, 161 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: home prices are fifty one percent higher than they were 162 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: five years ago. You still have a tight inventory and 163 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: competition is extremely high. 164 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: So then think about what the housing price does, which 165 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: is the housing prices higher. Interest rates are still markedly 166 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: higher than they were when they do these cuts, unless 167 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: they cut them to zero like they did during COVID. 168 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: The big business people are the ones who benefit. Okay, 169 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: you might you might save some money on your mortgage, 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: but if six and six two five is the difference 171 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: between you buy an OUs or not buy an OSS, 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: you're probably cash poorn that home to begin with from 173 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: the moment you step into it. But the housing prices 174 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: are still unaffordable for many people. But then you also have, 175 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: as a result of the rising housing prices, people can't 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: afford the property taxes and the insurance, and so it 177 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: is this like perfect storm vortex. And then Trump comes 178 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: out and starts talking about all this land for affordable housing, 179 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: and it's like, great, that's what my community needs. Another 180 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: high density housing development, mister Trump. Hey, I'll tell you what, 181 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, why don't we put the first high density 182 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: housing development at mar Lago. You got plenty of land there, 183 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: put it there. Bet that doesn't happen, Casey. 184 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: Renting preference is rising, and we've talked about this before. 185 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: Thirty three percent say if they were moving today, they 186 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: would choose to rent versus buying a house because they. 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 4: Can't afford the down payment on it. 188 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: But there's like renting is not a bad thing. They 189 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: always try to label it as a negative thing. And 190 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: I've told the story before. But Pete the Planner, the 191 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: financial guy who I think he still has a weekend 192 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: show here in WIBC. Years ago, we had a conversation 193 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: about this, and I think he actually did it as 194 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: a column and on his show where he did the 195 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: math and this was ten years ago when houses were 196 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: much cheaper than they are today, and he sort of 197 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: debunked by the time you factor in all the things 198 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: you have to do for home ownership, that it's even 199 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: that great of a deal, and for a young person, 200 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: it's definitely probably not a good deal, especially in today's economy. 201 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: They also touch on the labor market and economic trends. 202 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: So you've got the unofficial labor report that came out, 203 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: and it says pretty much that hiring and quit rates 204 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: are low, meaning people are sticking with the job even 205 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: if they don't like it, they don't want to be 206 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: there because hiring has slowed down. 207 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Talking to somebody the other day who is in a 208 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: a desired but very targeted field in technology, and this 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: person has kind of had enough of their current situation. 210 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Nothing bad, they're not in trouge. They're just like, I 211 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: gotta I feel like I've got to move on right. 212 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Earned everything i can right, and this this job has 213 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: taken me as far as it's going to take me. 214 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: The employer is very happy with this person. 215 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: There east your cap and salary. 216 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Probably yeah, they're they're fine with this person. They just 217 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: feel like, hey, it's probably time for me to move on, 218 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: and they were telling me about the struggles that they 219 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: are having now compared to three or four years ago, 220 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: when this person arguably is now more desired because their 221 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: skill set is better theirs, certifications whatever, and and it 222 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: was interesting conversation I have with this person about how 223 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: tightened even the in demand markets are. And so if 224 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: you're in a market that's not in demand, I can't 225 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: imagine what it is. 226 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, hiring is clearly slowing and unemployment 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: still low ish, right, so where are you going to go? 228 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: People who are taken forever to hire a job? You 229 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: just you're going to stay and hug the one you have. 230 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: So then this comes back to Trump's manipulation of the economy, 231 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: which is exactly what they did during COVID, which they 232 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: are now acknowledging that the tear without saying and he's 233 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: never going to say it, but he's acknowledging that the 234 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: tariffs are harming the economy. So instead of manning up 235 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: to the American people and actually having to earn it 236 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: and sell it and explain why it's going to work 237 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: long term and take the blow, their response is I'm 238 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: going to strong arm the Federal Reserve into cutting interest rates, 239 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: which all that does is let mega corpse and big 240 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: business people get access to cheaper money, which means your 241 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: money becomes worthless, and then they'll artificially goose the economy 242 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: and go, look at how great the economy is, when 243 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: the reality is you'll pay for it through inflation. 244 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendelly Casey, it's ninety three WIBC, I 245 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 2: don't even know. 246 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: Why. Or Bumper stickers Ruining humanity. 247 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: Study was done by University of Cincinnati and they used 248 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: some simulated driving videos and some of the videos showed 249 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: drivers driving well and others showed them driving badly. But 250 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: the cars had different bumper stickers on them and they 251 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: were trying to gauge people's reaction. Does the bumper sticker 252 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: make you angry? And they found they had a neutral 253 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: one as well. They had some proud Democrat, proud Republican 254 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: cars with no stickers at all, and then some neutral 255 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: ones like I love my dog. And what they found 256 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: out is that when drivers followed the rules, the bumper 257 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: sticker didn't affect you at all. Oh, but when the 258 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: driver was driving badly, people were definitely angry. If the 259 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: car had a sticker from an opposing. 260 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Political So interesting. 261 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: And they also found out that participants said that they 262 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: were more likely to honk at cars that had opposing 263 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: political stickers on them as well. 264 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, the bumper sticker is sort of it seems 265 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,479 Speaker 1: like I don't maybe I just don't notice them anymore, 266 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like I see as many of them, 267 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: certainly not on nicer cars. 268 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: Right, you need to spend all that money on a 269 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: car of sticker on it. 270 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: And look, I can say this because I have a 271 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: horrible car, but there's a certain type of car, Like 272 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: my car wouldn't be the sort of car that would 273 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: have the bumper stick it would be. 274 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: Your car would be the type of car that the 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: bumper sticker would be holding it together. 276 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,239 Speaker 4: I need that bumper sticker. 277 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I could say this, there's a certain type 278 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: of car that you would see the bumper sticker. And 279 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: I guess people are like, well, if I'm spending eighty 280 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: large for a Tesla or whatever it costs, now, I'm 281 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: not going to risk some person keying my automobile because 282 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: they don't like my political slogan. 283 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: Right, So in twenty nineteen, you gov did a survey 284 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: and they found out that sixty percent of cars have 285 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: bumper stickers a decal or a magnet on them, and 286 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: of that sixty percent, thirty two percent were political. 287 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't well, okay with that, But that was several 288 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: years ago. 289 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it was yeah, twenty nineteen, twenty. 290 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Nineteen, so six years ago. So I would guess that's 291 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: probably even smaller now. It does seem sort of a 292 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: bygone everything. Here's what bothers me. It is the guy 293 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: who has nine bumper stickers. H it's too hard to 294 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: keep track of everything. I feel like keV would be 295 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: a guy on his van with nine bumper stickers. I 296 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: could see keV have nine different things on the back 297 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: of his automobile. I've never had one ever, No, not 298 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: even for your band. It never never really occurred to me. Yeah, 299 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: you strike me as bumper sticker guy. And there's some 300 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: bumper stickers that have like lightning bolts on them or 301 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: it's very hard to keep track. There's ones with numbers 302 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: on them. Is that how many miles you've ran? Right? 303 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: Like the marathon run? 304 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 305 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: Every now and then you see one two where it 306 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: says like there's a baby on board. 307 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. What is the 308 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: theory with the baby on board thing? And I can 309 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: say this that I have a young child, no longer 310 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: a baby but a toddler. I can say this, am 311 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: I like you think what, I was going to run 312 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: into you, but now I'm not going to run into 313 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: you because there's a baby on this What does that 314 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: even mean? 315 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. I've never had a baby on board. 316 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: They have faith. 317 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: I understand the people who have the signs in the 318 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: yard that say child lives here, slow down or please 319 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: be aware or whatever. I see that because there's a 320 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: chance you could, inadvertently not trying to do anything wrong, 321 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, the kid darts out in front of you. 322 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: I understand to be aware that. Hey I need to look, 323 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: But what person? How many instances of road rage have 324 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: baby on board prevented over the years? 325 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have those numbers. 326 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I would love to know that they should do at 327 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: on that. 328 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 329 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of people's way of putting 330 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: their personality on the outside of their car. Let people 331 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: know what they're into as they're driving around. 332 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care what you're into. 333 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think I just want you to drive 334 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: safely as well? 335 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: Right? 336 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: I wonder too with bumper stickers, because you do see 337 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: a lot of political political are the ones you still 338 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: see in terms of candidates, you'll still see the I 339 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: wonder what impact a bumper sticker actually has, maybe on 340 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: local races that spreading the word yeah, if you're a 341 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: or like the magnet decals on the automobile for a 342 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: city council race, a town council race. But if you 343 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: ever like seeing a presidential or governor bumper sticker, like, 344 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah I should, I should vote for them? 345 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 4: Is it really moving the needle? 346 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Although when you think about it, the amount of eyes 347 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: a bumper sticker would get in front of see a 348 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: yard sign, it stays stagnant and we'll have to drive 349 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: past your place of residency. But with a car you 350 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: could see it everywhere. 351 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't have any stickers on your car? No, 352 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: I got nothing, Kevin, You have none on yours either. 353 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: I have been bumper sticker guy though over the years, 354 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: but I've phased out of bumper sticker. 355 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 4: You put a political sticker on your car, like if 356 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: they win or you gotta take it off. 357 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: But take it off is my bigger part of not 358 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: having a bumper sticker, because it's hard usually to get 359 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: them off of the car. 360 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to use some soap and water. 361 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no political candidates. I mean I'm done 362 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: with that, right, No, I know we know my opinion 363 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: now on all the political candidates, So I'm done. I'm 364 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: done with all that. 365 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: What about the ones that have nothing to do with politics, 366 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: like the Salt Life or. 367 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: What is that? 368 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: Ron Johns? What is a Salt Life? What does that mean? 369 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: Somebody isn't that? Is it a brand? 370 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: See? If I don't know what your bumper sticker means, 371 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: it's not a very good bumper sticker. Salt Life, like 372 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: you eat a lot of salt, you have a is 373 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: sodium diet? What does that mean? 374 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: Like surfer dude has it on there? I don't, Bronco. 375 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I can tell a lot about you based on the 376 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: car that you drive. The vehicle and that's all I 377 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: need to know. Kev's van I'm barely has air conditioning. Guy, 378 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: you're jeep person. 379 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, what does my vehicle say 380 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 4: about me? 381 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Person? 382 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 4: Rough and tumbles? 383 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I think the cars pretty much sum it up. keV 384 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: is van guy. I'm cheap, you're fun and sporty. 385 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: I think I think it. 386 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: Says a lot about You're listening to Kendallly Casey. It's 387 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: ninety three WYBC. 388 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Casey question. Yes, have you ever inadvertently flipped somebody off? 389 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: Not inadvertently, I use great intention when I tell them 390 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: they're number one. 391 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so call me, call me suspect on those. But 392 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, who is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys, 393 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: probably the most famous owner in all of professional sports 394 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: in North America, uh, flipped off off a group of people. 395 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: The Cowboys were playing the Jets on Sunday. 396 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were at MetLife Stadium. 397 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: And Jerry Jones was on camera flipping off somebody we 398 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: don't know. And he has now been fined by the 399 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: NFL for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, he 400 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: went on some radio. I guess he has his own 401 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: radio show. Well, I guess you're rich enough to own 402 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you can have your own radio show. 403 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: Y, exactly the broadcast team to go along with it. 404 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're worth nine cents in of a radio show, 405 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: so surely he went too right, and he described it 406 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: as quote es according to NFL dot Com, inadvertent. 407 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: And he's unintentional. 408 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: He said, the gesture was inadvertent on my part because 409 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: that was right after we made our last touchdown and 410 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: we were all excited about it. There wasn't any any 411 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: antagonistic issue or anything like that. I just put up 412 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: the wrong show on the hand that inadvertently got that 413 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: was inadvertently done. If you want to call it accidentally, 414 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: you can call it accidental. Okay. What could he have 415 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: been doing in which inadvertently his middle finger would have 416 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: been extended at people? 417 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: Right? 418 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Like, hey, we're number one? You see that a lot 419 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: with towards like we're number one, number one, right, number one? Yeah, 420 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: we're wrong. That's the index finger, right. 421 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 5: Uh what. 422 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's our fourth touchdown? You're putting up four? 423 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: Like what? I don't I don't understand how you could 424 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: inadvertently extend your middle finger at somebody. 425 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: He said he was doing it aimed at the celebrating fans. 426 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, there is. The intention was thumbs up. 427 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 4: Uh huh, yeah, that it was supposed to be a 428 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: thumbs up. 429 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: Well, this is your thumb right. 430 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: He chose his middle finger instead. 431 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: He claimed it was not done in anger or in disrespect. 432 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: It was very quick as well. 433 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: Hey, Casey, we scored a touchdown. Yeah, I'm doing it 434 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: with two thumbs yeah. Yeah, you're number one. 435 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 436 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: And then there's that other finger, which means something completely. 437 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe this for a second. 438 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened right after the fourth touchdown pass. And 439 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: now he's been fined two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 440 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: by the NFL. 441 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 4: But get this, he's appealing the fine. 442 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 443 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess why not. Is there some 444 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: sort of penalty? Does it find? I don't think it 445 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: gets enhanced if you lose. 446 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: What's this guy's net worth? 447 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Though he's eighty, I think Jerry Jones is like eighty 448 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: two years old. There's no way at eighty whatever years 449 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: Oldie is. He doesn't know the difference. Let's see if 450 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: let's see on the spot, keV, can you extend your 451 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: thumb in my direction to give me a thumbs up? 452 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: He just did it. He did it, Casey, he chose correctly. 453 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: Can you extend your thumb in my direction? 454 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: Now? 455 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: I know you'd like to extend the other one, but 456 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: you're also doing it, Okay, So therefore I'm calling complete 457 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: bull crap on this. 458 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah you think, okay, So. 459 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: He's not the first owner who's been fine for fan 460 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: related incidents. David Tepper from the Panthers was fined three 461 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in twenty three for throwing a drink 462 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: at fans. 463 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: Was that seems very intentional? 464 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: That was a Tepper's the owner of the of the Panthers, 465 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: I think right, the Carolina Panthers was that last. 466 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: Year in twenty three. I mean what you will? The 467 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: drink slipped. 468 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Here's the thing. If I were this rich, m 469 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: y'all would never see me. Other than when I was 470 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: a kid. There was an inspector gadget cartoon and the 471 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: main bad guy that he was always chasing after. There 472 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: were always like various bad guys, but they were connected 473 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: to this one main bad guy who you never saw 474 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: his head. You just saw him petting the cat at 475 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: the end. That would be me. If I were as 476 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: rich as Jerry Jones, all of my messaging and contact 477 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: with the outside world would come via video board, right 478 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: that I would just I would that way I could 479 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: edit it, transcribe it well. 480 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: Because you've already stated that if you were that rich, 481 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: you would just disappear in a big plot of land. 482 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: Those people would wonder whatever happened to Rob Ken. 483 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: But if I were the difference is, as a poor man, 484 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I would be poor in a shack in the middle 485 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: of nowhere. As a rich man, I would have also 486 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: sorts of access to the outside world to inflict as 487 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: much damage as I possibly could. But the point is 488 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: I would think it through, and that way I could 489 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: kit edit or remove, and then I wouldn't know. A 490 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: tundred fifty thousand dollars fine, because I don't care how 491 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: rich you are. Paying Turner fifty thousand dollars for nothing 492 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: would hurt. And that's what he's doing. He's paying Turner 493 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. 494 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: Hell, here's something to consider. Bud Adams from the Titans. 495 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: He was fined two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in 496 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. 497 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that was a long time ago. 498 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: For flashing middle fingers at fans. 499 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. Right. 500 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: Is there no inflation affecting the middle finger? The price 501 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: has not gone up. It's the same fine. 502 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: Please tell me there's some sort of transcript that we're 503 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: going to get on this appeal because I want to 504 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: hear how he inadvertently gave a middle finger instead of 505 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: thumbs up. 506 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: It was an accident. I didn't mean that finger. I 507 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: meant thumbs up. Okay, sure. 508 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: So do you know what is the number one cause 509 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: of fights among couples? Not the owner and fans, but 510 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: among couples? 511 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: Now, are these married or people who are just in 512 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: a relationship? 513 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: Just in a relationship, They can be married. The most 514 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: common reason couples. 515 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: Fight, Well, I don't know, because you know my approach 516 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: on things. And your husband thought this was I told 517 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: him this at Libby's birthday party and he thought it 518 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: was the most brilliant thing ever in all things. And 519 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: this is when you get seasoned in life. My approach 520 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: to whatever thing that is in front of me is 521 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: what do I want my life to look like thirty 522 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: minutes from now? 523 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 4: So what does future Rob want to deal with? 524 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? And so it's really helped me. So I don't 525 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: know what do couples actually fight about? 526 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: What is the most It's not money, nope, it's not sex, nope, 527 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: not parenting. 528 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: I would hope if you're just in a relationship. You're 529 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: not fighting about those things, because that should be a 530 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: red flag. 531 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 4: It is the tone of your voice. 532 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the sharp the sharp tone, maybe the eye 533 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: roll a sigh, study say it's uh. That is the 534 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: number one cause of fights because you remember how it 535 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: made you feel. 536 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've always been told that my looks have tones. 537 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never actually, well, i've seen you mad never. 538 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: You kind of got mad at me the other day, 539 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: but I've never seen you like really mad before. I 540 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: think that'd be fun. That's gonna be my goal to 541 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: see if I can make you really mad at some point. 542 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: I feel like it'd be like Ned. There's an episode 543 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: of The Simpsons where Ned Flanders, the do gooder neighbor 544 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: of Homer and the Simpsons, gets driven to insanity and 545 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: he just has explodes. I feel like that's how it 546 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: might be for you. I want to see if I 547 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: can just drive you to explode. 548 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: You walked right up to that line the other day. 549 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: I did, I know, and I knew, and I'm so good. 550 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: I've gotten so good at this point I know when 551 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: I've actually probably like done it and then I told you, 552 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: oh sorry. 553 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah you did you apologize. That was very nice. 554 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: I once I got told this years ago by a girlfriend. 555 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: She said that. She said, the problem with you is 556 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: your tone. It's your tone, right, And I said, well, 557 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I always have the same tone. She said, that's the problem. 558 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: You're always a sarcastic ass to everything. Change your voice 559 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: that are supposed to be serious. I said, but everything's 560 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: funny to me. She said, that's the problem. That's why 561 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: this isn't working between us. 562 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, this study says that tone carries emotional weight, 563 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: and small changes in voice can feel like blame, indifference 564 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: or contempnt. 565 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 4: You're very good with the contempnt. 566 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: Well, this is what I told her. 567 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: I said. 568 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Wait a second, I said, well, I said, you knew 569 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: when we got together what you signed up for or 570 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: wherever we are six months into this thing now or 571 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: relationship or whatever. I said. She goes, well, it was 572 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: fun when we first started dating. It's not fun now 573 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: when it never changes, right. 574 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: She expected you to soften up over time. 575 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: But I, in fairness, I told him when we started. 576 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: I said, look, this is not an act. H huh, 577 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: this is what you're getting. This is I've told people 578 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: many times in friendships, relationships, whatever over the years, what 579 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: you in case you'll back me up on that. Now, 580 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: what you see is what you get. I am a sarcastic, 581 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: contemptful ass. 582 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: Okay, well, here's what you're supposed to do, Rob, I 583 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: need you to pay It would have been healthful fifteen 584 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: years ago. But go ahead, attention to me, pause and 585 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: correct it in the moment you're supposed to say, sorry, 586 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: that came out a little sharp. Let me try again, 587 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: or that's not how I meant it. Here's what I mean, 588 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: and just a few small tweaks shows self awareness and 589 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: can help avoid bigger fights. 590 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: I got this with my wife the other night because 591 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: I did something and in my attempt to live by 592 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: my creed of what do I want my life to 593 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: be thirty minutes from now? Yeah, I looked at her 594 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: and I said, I'm sorry, oh nice, and she goes, 595 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe you, and I said, well, you're right, 596 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: you shouldn't. But what else do you want me to do? 597 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get out of this thing to 598 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: avoid the conflict. I've accepted responsibility, even if I don't 599 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: believe it's my responsibility. How can you be a better 600 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: husband than that? 601 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 2: Okay, well, you admitted you were wrong, you took you know, 602 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: you apologize. 603 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: Did you take corrective action? Did you change your tone? 604 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: Missing that third step? 605 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 5: Rob? 606 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Well, but I don't think there really was corrective action. 607 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: I think she just wanted to be mad at me, 608 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: and then I took the bait and should have just 609 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: found a better way to get to the what do 610 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: I want my life to be thirty minutes from now? 611 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: And instead, because I wasn't really sorry, I said I'm sorry, 612 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: and then that just made it worse. Yeah, and then 613 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: I had to restart the clock and what I want 614 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: my right? 615 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: If you need to reset the conversation, you need to say, 616 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: let's start over. Now. 617 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm an hour into this thing. 618 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: Abdul's gonna join us next. 619 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: What's we're gonna we're gonna talk about? What are we 620 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: gonn talk? We're gonna talk about the Secretary of State race. 621 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, perfect, that's on the way from ninety three WYVC. 622 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: So bye. In the race, let's find out what we 623 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: settled lending out the street for lust of two hundred 624 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: West Washington, where we talk about going inside the bowels 625 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: of the State House. Nobody better than this guy, Thank you. 626 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm a proctologist. Congrat Thank you, sir. That's right the 627 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: bottom with the portions of death perception on top of it. 628 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: Abdual games of Jabbaz joins us now and aren operator 629 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: of ndipolitics dot Org. Abdul keeps Jabaz, Hello. 630 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 6: I'm geting way to work on my next column about 631 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 6: bow bye, and I was thinking of a title and 632 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 6: it's like, OK, I gotta get all instinct bye bye bias. 633 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: What the title is going to be? 634 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: Sure? Absolutely all right. So we've had a couple of 635 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: days now to digest that the son of Evan by, 636 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: former governor and senator in Indiana is running for secretary 637 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: of State. What have you heard from the the people 638 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: inside the political class. What are they saying kind of 639 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: off the record, what's the perception about his entry to 640 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: the race. 641 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 6: It is really energized in the Democrats, and a way 642 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 6: they have been energized in a really, really really long time, 643 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 6: almost to the point of two thousand and eight when 644 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 6: Barack Obamacdorf became President one Indiana. Back during that election, 645 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 6: when you beat John McCain, they're really excited, really energetically, 646 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 6: really enthusiastic about it because Bobya is sort of a 647 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 6: bridget he the by Naman like. He brings back a 648 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 6: lot of the old timers, some of the Democrat money 649 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 6: that may have gone away for a while. You can 650 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: also energize younger voters. No fresher face. The guy looks like, 651 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 6: looks like he's out of Central casting. No six' two square, 652 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 6: chin blonde. 653 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: Hair you know. 654 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Everything we didn't. Get, yes he got. 655 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 3: It he got. 656 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: It all that being is Everything diego is not. Well 657 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: that being, said and we talked about this a little 658 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: bit On state a. 659 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: Vehicle by the way. Too what what? 660 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: If and we pondered this when he made the. Announcement 661 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: we all just assume because his name is by and you're, 662 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: right he looks straight out Of Central, casting and he's 663 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: going to have the the machine behind him and the 664 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: money and everything. Else but are we make are we 665 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: being presumptuous to presume he's going to be some sort 666 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: of great candidate that Gives democrats a Showt what if he? 667 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 6: Stinks, oh and he's already he already made a misstep 668 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 6: in their first campaign that they've got to put the. 669 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: Disclaimer do you have to do? 670 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: That you have to on the ONLINE i think this 671 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: is this is running for public office is very. Complicated 672 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: and somebody had said at one point that there were 673 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: based on where the ad runs or. Whatever but you're, 674 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: right you should always put it. On, yeah just just 675 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: for just for good safety. Measure AND i was a 676 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: bit surprised BECAUSE i was talking about democratic insider friends 677 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: like a duel that was that was kind of a 678 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: rookie mistake because the buyers are really good at uh 679 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: dotting all the eyes and crossing all the. Team, yeah 680 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: when you run for city, council you know you got 681 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: to put the disclaimer. 682 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 6: Twitch my response, was so here's the, thought and this 683 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 6: is get really. Conspiratory ill go down rabbit. Hole maybe 684 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 6: they did it on. 685 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Purpose oh yeah, yeah like WHAT i. 686 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 6: Mean they don't purple think about. It you don't know 687 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 6: purpose that way like, hey you screwed, up blah. Blah 688 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 6: that way you're like he's going to be a. Cakewalk 689 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 6: you totally. Underestimate, yeah you're. Reaching, yeah of course it was. 690 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: REACHING i think YOU'RE i think you're reaching. There next 691 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: thing you're telling meus we didn't land on the, moon all, 692 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: Right so because the world is, flat you got you 693 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: got you got that. MISTAKE i Like James briggs and 694 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: friend of our show and on our on on this, 695 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: program and and good on him getting the. Interview but 696 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: the idea that you do this interview with the with 697 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: The Indie star columnists in a house that doesn't have 698 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: furniture and the knock on you as you don't live, 699 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: here and he mentioned that in the article that seemed 700 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: to be a big mess up too in my. 701 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 6: Opinion, yes but here's the thing, though For republicans to 702 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 6: Attack Evan bye said he doesn't live, Here Bo, bye 703 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 6: bobye here either have we? Met because remember jaeglem are 704 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 6: the whole thing about the. Vote the right had A Henderson, 705 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 6: county A Hamilton county, residents but voted In Hinderson county. 706 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: And had all those. 707 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: Right, well you're, right, Yeah that's WHY i say you be, 708 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: careful be careful that the stick you throw because it 709 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: could be a. Boomerang, well, okay so if indeed it 710 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: ends up bow bye Versus Diego, morales we're going to 711 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: find out about a bunch of. Stuff there's a, likely 712 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: a high likelihood were gonna find out a bunch Stuffbout. 713 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: Diego we have longed to get to the bottom of 714 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: because the buy. Machine, LOOK i will give Bow bye 715 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: credit in these Interviews i've seen him do so. Far 716 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: he's bringing the. Smoke he'll get better at bringing the. 717 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Smoke and he's saying all the things in a much 718 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: nicer way than we do on this. Program but about 719 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Who Diego morales. Is And diego may not want to 720 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: tell people who paid For, india but the, buys they're 721 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: probably gonna figure it. 722 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 6: Out and my money is somebody with the by campaign 723 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 6: probably has a couple chea cheaps descriptions as. 724 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: Well that's the, thing, Right so The, republicans because The 725 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: republicans circled the wagon pretty, quick and it was like 726 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: the egregious behavior From diego for all of, this the 727 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: three years he's been in, office and not a peep 728 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: out of you. People and now you guys come out 729 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: and are losing your minds over where Bo bai has actually. 730 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: Lived like, now oh now everybody's. 731 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 5: A now residency? Matter, YEAH i mean you. Know so 732 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: it is interesting. Too he is already exposing who These 733 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 5: republicans are where decency in, office integrity in, office ethical, 734 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: behavior it means nothing to these people because every single 735 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 5: one of them knows What diego. 736 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 6: Is AND i think THE i Think republicans have a 737 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 6: they've they've made a deal with the, devil sort of 738 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 6: A fastian, bargain which, is we need the we can't Stand, 739 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 6: diego but we need the. Office which is WHY i 740 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised if there's a push to Get Dave, 741 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 6: shelton who's a secretary they can to win at the 742 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 6: state convention so they can Get diego sort of out 743 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 6: of the. 744 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: Picture, well it. 745 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: Does we talked about this in state. Else happenings of 746 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: duel is our. Guest it does now put new onus 747 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: on The republicans to, say, hey if It's, diego and 748 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: by the, way if You're Dan elliott the state treasurer 749 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: or at Least ashalla at the, comptroller and they got 750 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: to run for, reelection don't you have to speak up 751 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: at somebody because they don't want to run With, diego 752 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: certainly not if It's diego against against Bow. Bye doesn't 753 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: somebody have to be an adult and, go, Hey David 754 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: shelton's The Knox county. Clerk he's as boring as that 755 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: wall behind, you but he's really, confident and he's really 756 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: boring And as long as we just run Generic, republicans 757 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: we'll be. Fine doesn't don't these other statewide people have to, Go, 758 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: HEY i got A i got some skin in the 759 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: game in. This you gotta. 760 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: Go but let's let's let's do it this. 761 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: Way Whenever i'm in the State house, hallways they run 762 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Into Dan elliott Or Alista shalla Like madame com, trailer 763 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: how are you? 764 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: Doing? So how's That Diego moralis? 765 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 6: Going it just gives that polite, smile like she gets 766 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 6: her teeth and politely walks. 767 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: Away but they're. Not why doesn't anybody ever speak? Up 768 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: nobody ever speaks. Up Dave sheldon put a press release 769 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: out about Bow, bye and you're just reading this, going 770 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: you got a lot of work to do to run 771 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: against Bow. Bye you don't do any of this With Diego. 772 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: Morales you should be putting this same sort of vigor 773 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: and energy into what a rotten not only, candidate not only, 774 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: officeholder but Individual Diego morales. 775 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: Is. 776 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 6: SEE i think that was more for the for the 777 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 6: delegates at the convention next year than then for us 778 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 6: in the, news in the news media business and the general, 779 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 6: public because, like, hey, NO i can take on Bow 780 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 6: BYE i point out, this point out, this point out, 781 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 6: This this is why you should nominate. 782 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: Me now you're interviewing bow. 783 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 6: Bye, YES i interviewed him this afternoon and the interview 784 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 6: will run be a post On Any politics probably tomorrow 785 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 6: and on the weekend. 786 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 3: Show very. 787 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: Good find him over At indie politics dot org And 788 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: bill Give. Shabaz thank, you thank. You that's gonna do 789 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: it for us. Today thank you to you the listener as, 790 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: always fabulous. Job thank you To, Casey kevin and stick 791 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: Around Tony. Katz coming up, Next Kevil Casey show ninety 792 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: THREE wibc