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Speaker 1: Caratoba from Oz Family Cigars. Honestly, anything that is connected

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Speaker 1: to John Hubert and groundheads, I'm all in. I will

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Speaker 1: give John Hubert all the props, all the credit, totally

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Speaker 1: totally dig that dude. But this I have heard people

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Speaker 1: talking about this. I've been asked if I've tried this yet.

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Speaker 1: So let's go to work.

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Speaker 2: Tee, drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite

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Speaker 1: amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. This is the caratoba from Oz

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Speaker 1: Family Cigars.

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Speaker 2: It is a robusto coming in in a very.

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Speaker 1: Very healthy five by fifty two, which means it's five

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Speaker 1: inches long. Ta always makes Fingers mooy laugh. And the

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Speaker 1: ring gage is the fifty two.

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Speaker 2: That's the diameter of the cigar, or how thick it

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Speaker 2: is around.

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Speaker 1: T again with the laughter. So a sixty four ring

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Speaker 1: gauge would be a full one inch around. This is

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Speaker 1: a box press, not a hard edge box press, but

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Speaker 1: a little more defined than some others. Right, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: get a little more of an oval shape. This one

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Speaker 1: is a little more squared off. This is ECUADORI and

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Speaker 1: Sumatra in the rapper nic Arroguin in the binder of

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Speaker 1: the filler is Niicaraguan and Dominican right here. This came

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Speaker 1: out the summer of twenty twenty five, so juneo, twenty

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Speaker 2: So if you're now just.

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Speaker 1: Seeing it at your local tobacconist in your favorite human

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Speaker 1: or that makes perfect sense to me. It could have

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Speaker 1: taken a little while to get into the rotation. You

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Speaker 1: could have still been dealing with other cigars, and you

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Speaker 1: may have seen it once or twice, but now you're

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Speaker 1: noticing it. It's beautiful with that copper and black on

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Speaker 1: the band there and a rapper. It's got texture nut

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Speaker 1: grit is the way I would say, a classic coloring

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Speaker 1: to the rapper as well. Fingers moy, you have started

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Speaker 1: smoking this the cara toba, the oz caratoba rubusto.

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Speaker 2: What say you as you've just looked this up? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just lit this up three minutes ago, and what

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Speaker 2: I can tell you is at the light, I got

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a nuttiness, some wood and maybe

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Speaker 2: just maybe a little bit of white pepper. But that's

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Speaker 2: where I'm out right now. But I just lit it,

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Speaker 2: so we'll just have to see how it goes. As

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Speaker 2: we moved through the first third of the scar Give

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Speaker 2: me that list again, white pepper and what else did

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Speaker 2: you get? Nuttiness and some wood? Hold on, No, he's

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Speaker 2: going in ladies and gentlemen. He's doing what we like

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Speaker 2: to call I think.

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Speaker 1: That there is so I'm with you on the wood.

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Speaker 1: There's a cedar and a cedar spice that's happening. I'm

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Speaker 1: getting a creamy undercurrent. Okay, that could be Maybe you

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Speaker 1: could call it earthy, maybe you could call it just

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go there. You said nutting, Maybe that is

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Speaker 2: a nutty cream. Now. I the best way I could.

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Speaker 1: Describe this is if you've ever had cashews and you're

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Speaker 1: chewing the cashew, but you don't swallow, you just chew

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Speaker 1: the cashew. That kind of kind of pasty flavor that

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Speaker 1: And I think that is a fantastic flavor. Like I

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Speaker 1: love that as I think about cigars. That is one

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Speaker 1: of the flavors that I look for and what I

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Speaker 2: I think that there's something very very good in that.

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Speaker 1: Now you can say it's cash or it's almond, but

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Speaker 1: really it's almost like, how can a flavor evoke a

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Speaker 1: texture that creates a warmth, which is almost like saying

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Speaker 1: you're trying to develop peanut butter, but without that hard

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Speaker 1: the nutty creaminess right there. So I can that's where

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Speaker 1: I'm at with this. But definitely you've got that little

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you if it's a creaminus that comes

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure yet. By the way, Chew the cashew

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Speaker 2: is the name of my folk album? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? That is great? That is How do

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Speaker 2: you feel about the hand feel? Because it feels good

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Speaker 1: It is a robusto yeah, maybe right? So you got

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Speaker 1: a five inch cigar here. I don't think it is

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Speaker 1: is not to say don't smoke fifty four to fifty six.

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Speaker 1: the appointment by L Ray Amundo on the Gordo. I

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Speaker 1: top three cigars. That thing is still a freaking knockout,

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Speaker 1: you can't go higher than fifty two, it's just where

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Speaker 1: we see ourselves is in that forty six fifty two range.

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Speaker 1: ring gages, especially Lancero's. Not everybody is like that, and

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Speaker 1: that's totally fine to each their own. You choose how

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Speaker 1: you want to live in this cigar world. This is

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Speaker 1: the caractoba from Oz Family Cigars.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Oz has done some things that that I've liked in

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Speaker 1: the past. They've got some cigars as they've come back

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Speaker 1: if you will, to life over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: But I have heard people say, have you tried this?

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see what builds and what grows

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Speaker 1: that people are that I would assume people are saying, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Ass Now, did you say this was a limited release

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Speaker 2: or is this something that people will, Okay, I think

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Speaker 2: this is absolutely regular. Okay, this is regular. Right.

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Speaker 1: So Oz did the Bosphorus, a cigar we reviewed a

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Speaker 1: few years back that I really really like to really enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: They did the Fasot. We also reviewed that cigar a

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Speaker 1: few years back. And now you've got this. The question,

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Speaker 2: So far, so good, So far, so good. You need

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Speaker 1: We need to get into the second third before we

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Speaker 1: really make that call. And you want to get your

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Speaker 1: notebooks out right, What do you eat today? What'd you

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Speaker 1: drink today? Super freezing, stupid cold in Indianapolis, Indiana with

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Speaker 2: We'll get into all that, but you take the cigar

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Speaker 2: and you break.

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Speaker 1: It up right, first third, second third, final third, Write

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Speaker 2: What'd you drink today?

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Speaker 1: All that affecting your palate, the cold affecting your palate.

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Speaker 1: It can also affect your humidor. I have an electronic humidor.

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Speaker 1: I turned up the temperature of my humid or as

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Speaker 1: the tempaters came down to try and make sure that

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Speaker 1: everything in there was all right, I'm finding that things.

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Speaker 2: Are starting to smoke a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: Nice, there's a weird I still don't have it all together.

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Speaker 2: I don't have it all perfect. In this humid or,

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Speaker 1: There yet with exactly how I'm supposed to react before

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Speaker 2: But get your notebooks out. What do you eat today,

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Speaker 2: what do you drink today? The weather?

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Speaker 1: And then what are the flavors you're getting out of

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Speaker 1: each third of the cigar? Doesn't matter how weird it

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Speaker 1: is or how base it is.

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Speaker 2: Just write it down.

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Speaker 1: When you try the cigar a month from now, six

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Speaker 1: check your notes. See what stuck with you? Right, What

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Speaker 1: things were constant? That's your through line. That's that's really

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Speaker 1: got out of the cigar. Yeah, twelve dollars doesn't bother

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Speaker 1: me on a roboosto right five years ago, this is

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Speaker 1: are now. We're not gonna get into that. We're just

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Speaker 1: gonna move on. Well, here are the prices today. You

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Speaker 2: But for let's just stick with humidification. What percentage do

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Speaker 2: a their humidoret. I am not a believer.

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Speaker 1: In sixty eight to seventy two, after much practice, I'm

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Speaker 1: against boveda or or what hygrometer you have. It's based

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Speaker 1: sixty four percent and sixty eight degrees is where I'm at,

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Speaker 1: And I'm starting to think that maybe I have found something.

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Speaker 2: We should get into this.

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Speaker 1: Every humidor is different and no one knows what is right.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into that next. So I do want to

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Speaker 1: And then this story about the rest of this restaurant

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Speaker 2: Billion dollars worth of debt.

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Speaker 1: This is nuts, and it's it's named you know, in

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Speaker 1: places that you've been seetroing smoke. I'm Tony Katz that

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Speaker 1: right there, America's favorite amateur drinker fingers below. There is

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Speaker 1: no right answer to the question what humidity.

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Speaker 2: Should you keep your cigars at?

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Speaker 1: at least the basic this idea that humidity should be

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Speaker 1: interesting that that whole methodology of there's a standard that's

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Speaker 1: not it. I've heard people talking about this in my

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Speaker 2: Your results may vary.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you take zet bound you may lose

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Speaker 2: Results vary. But I don't know why I went after zetbound.

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Speaker 2: Same thing is true of any of them, the ozempic.

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Speaker 1: Or the or the or the the Jumanji, the Munjaro,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's one more. I can't remember what

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Speaker 2: it is. There's like there's like like big there's four

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Speaker 2: of them. There's four of the big ones that clearly

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking. Oh yeah, the other one Robotussin. That's well, well, Goby,

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Speaker 2: that's it. Oh, I always get this right there. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I own stock in any of these things. Guys,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a fund somewhere. I'm not trying to do

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Speaker 1: some subliminal advertising, and I'm not calling you fat. My

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Speaker 1: point is the results vary when it comes g humidor

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Speaker 1: and what your humidity is.

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Speaker 2: My problem is from to try to keep my humidity

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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to do the job for.

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Speaker 1: A VO, But I have an electric qumutor. Mine is

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Speaker 1: your cigar, bourbon foody extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz. That is

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Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers maloy will get into the

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Speaker 2: Fingers maloy for news of the week, well Tony foxweather

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Speaker 2: dot COM's reporting. While millions of Americans dig out from

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Speaker 2: the monster winter storm that happened earlier this week, forecasters

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Speaker 1: Hold on, there was a winter storm across most of

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can confirm that because I was in my

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Speaker 1: Huh, I don't. I don't leave the studio anymore. So

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Speaker 1: I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: All good for you. You just you just have a

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Speaker 1: We have eggs in the morning, and we have snacks

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Speaker 2: It's they're both smoked and grilled. I think they're grilled.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're smoked, but they are delicious. Oh.

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Speaker 1: The Trader Joe's grill olives. Nah, perfect, Do you like olives? No,

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Speaker 2: And so I'm driving down the road heading to eat,

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Speaker 2: It's terrible. It's the textures what wigs me out.

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Speaker 1: The snow was fierce, and the cold has been fierce,

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Speaker 2: winter storm to develop this weekend, maybe a nor'easter, Tony,

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Speaker 2: you don't want those nor'easters. But I don't know about you,

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Speaker 2: I'll clear your driveway. I said, no, I've got it

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Speaker 1: Have you ever sent me a picture of your snowblower?

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Speaker 2: Something about that phrase. I'm pretty sure he'll get you

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Speaker 2: shifted it in the gear and apparently there was a

434
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Speaker 2: manufacturer's defect in the snowblower. I've only run it maybe

435
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: twenty hours. A plastic piece broke on the housing where

436
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: you shift gears, and now it only stays in reverse,

437
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: so I couldn't use it. So you shoveled for four hours.

438
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and now there's a person of all we all

439
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: feel for you.

440
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: You actually had to do some manual labor. Blah blah

441
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.

442
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: The question is what is this new storm that threatens

443
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: all of us in our ability to smoke the cigar outside?

444
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: What is it? Yes, snow with potential snow. And you end,

445
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: you said because people are listening eat, rink smoke nation

446
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,239
Speaker 2: right now. If they're in the north, we East, they

447
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: can stick their heads out the window and maybe blizzard

448
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: like conditions.

449
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh so this is only going to affect like New Jersey,

450
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, those people. It's that's where the

451
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: worst of it is right now. And you know, as

452
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: people know we you know we because of our schedules,

453
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: we're actually recording this earlier in the week. It the

454
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: forecast may have changed thirty times between now and then,

455
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: and it may actually be seventy five in Boston. But

456
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna hit us in the in the Midwest,

457
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: it's not gonna hit us in the South, it's not

458
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna hit us in parts of the West.

459
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: It's only gonna hit New York. This sounds like the

460
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: worst of it is going to impact the Northeast. Okay,

461
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't care. The bitter cold, Tony, the bone chilling

462
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: cold temperatures, those are going to continue throughout the week

463
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: and into the weekend. It's uh, it's what they get

464
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: for trading Sam Darnold. So they get, so they deserve.

465
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: This would have been first one yelling for Sam Donald

466
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: to be traded.

467
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: I have been on the Sam Donald train since he

468
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: got to the NFL some two to eight years ago,

469
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: and I'm here to say the Sam Donald is the

470
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: future of quarterbacks, your New England Patriots against your Seattle

471
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks for a world championship in the National Football League,

472
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: because I don't think you can say the other Bowl

473
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: thing you gotta called the.

474
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: Big game, figures game, big Game. Oh yeah, call it

475
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: the game that it's called. But you're just gonna get sued.

476
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: I don't want that. I mean it would be good press,

477
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: because it's good press. I am in.

478
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: Listen if the storms don't say, if the storm's not

479
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: gonna hit us, I'm just not thinking about it.

480
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm moving on. Wow, I'm not myopic, Tony. Yeah, let

481
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: me take a moment to express my dismay. You have

482
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: five seconds with your attitude when when really I care

483
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: about all of each drinks smoke Nation. Not just eat

484
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: drink smoke Nation in Central Indiana. So not just eat

485
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: drink smoke Nation in Central Indiana. You care about That's

486
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: what That's what you seem to only care about is

487
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: because you are in Central Indiana. All you care about

488
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: is what is going to hit Central Indiana in the

489
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: way of a major storm. I, on the other hand,

490
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: have empathy for all of each drink smoke Nation. And

491
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: by the way, our listeners all around the globe.

492
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: Did I say, I asked was it going to impact

493
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: the Midwest? Did I ask was it going to impact

494
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: the South? You see, I know whom I care about,

495
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: and I do care about the people who love this

496
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: show in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island

497
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: for a month, not as much, but everybody else, Yes,

498
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: And that the level of concern that media has when

499
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: a storm's gonna hit New York versus when a storm

500
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: is gonna hit anywhere else. I can't allow my self

501
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: to let them gin me up into some kind of

502
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: caring when they start caring about what's happening in Saint Louis,

503
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: then I'll really start caring about what happens with them.

504
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that you just said a minute and

505
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: a half ago. I don't care. It doesn't impact me

506
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: at all. That's what you said.

507
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: Yes and me is the whole nation, and we are.

508
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: The diaspora is spread out well and deep. Anyway, how

509
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: did you get out of the storm?

510
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: Well? Did you dig out? Well?

511
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: I have an adult son and I have a wife,

512
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: and they took.

513
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: Care of the vast majority of it. Did you sit

514
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: in the house sipping.

515
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: A hot totty? Oh no, I was out there ey shoveled.

516
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: It's just I swear to you. I wish I'll get into.

517
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: It with you another time. The arm can't do it anymore.

518
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: A snowblower is a must in my life. This has

519
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: to happen. I can't. Well, I'll tell you one model

520
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: you should not buy. I'll just let you know off

521
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: the air.

522
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: One point three billion dollars worth of debt and forced

523
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: to pay it immediately. My god, fingers. What happened with

524
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: you at the casino?

525
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: Listen? Some people say you don't hit on twenty I say, hit,

526
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: it's Sea Drake smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

527
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker and terrible

528
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: gambler Fingers maloy. This this story is a knockout because

529
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: there's a company out there called Fat Brands, Fat Brands,

530
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Gus Fat Brands, and Twin Hospitality. I have filed chapter eleven,

531
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: a one point three billion dollar debt load. Holy cow,

532
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: the restaurants in their portfolio. So it starts with fat Burger.

533
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: You ever been to a fat Burger?

534
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: I've been to a fat Burger in Las Vegas? Oh?

535
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? I know that fat Burger tends

536
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: to be a West Coast chain, does it not. I

537
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: haven't seen too many uh, fat Burgers east of the Mississippi. No,

538
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't. I've never been to a fat Burger. I've

539
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: seen the sign. Never been to a flack You lived

540
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: in California for like twenty seven years?

541
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: First of all six years. Secondly, never to a fat Burger. Also,

542
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: never been to a fued Wreckers?

543
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: What? I've never been to a flud wreckers?

544
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: Oh?

545
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 2: Fun? Until like three years ago, I had never been

546
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: to a red lobster. My god, you never had a

547
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: cheddar Bay biscuit until three years ago. And you know

548
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: what I said, it's a lovely biscuit. It's a lovely biscuit.

549
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: So Fat Burger is there is in this group, and

550
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: so is Johnny Rockets. Now I've been to a Johnny Rockets.

551
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: Now you're like, wait a second, exactly how far does

552
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: this go?

553
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 2: Uh?

554
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: It has in the portfolio Fat Burger, Johnny Rockets, round

555
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: Table Pizza, which I'm not as familiar with, for Zoli's,

556
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: which I am very familiar with, and Marble Slab Creamery,

557
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: which went up against Coldstone Creamery.

558
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: Marble Slab, Coldstone. Ah, they were like the hat Fields

559
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: and the McCoy's. Yes, yes they were.

560
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: This is huge, absolutely huge. Now you're saying that in

561
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: addition to this, they own some other names fingers FLI yeah,

562
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: and some of them I don't think are real.

563
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: I think just threw that in there to make them

564
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: sound themselves some bigger than they are. What is it

565
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: that you think they are lying about as names? There

566
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: is no way on God's green Earth there is a

567
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: restaurant that went out of business or has financial difficulty

568
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: that's called hot Dog on a stick.

569
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: What First of all, you've never been to hot Dog

570
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: on a stick with a lemonade and everything else?

571
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 2: You're making that up?

572
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Oh they wear the hats. Well a second, they seem

573
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: like a hot dog on a stick. And yeah, yeah

574
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: they wear the they wear the whole uniform thing and

575
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: and and everything else.

576
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: Do they have flair? Oh yeah, they wear flair. Oh

577
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: they got nothing but flair.

578
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: The whole uniform is why I'm looking for images and

579
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: hot talk stick. Yeah, yeah, here, let me I I'll

580
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: post it on the videos and people can see it.

581
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.

582
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: It's the yellow stripe, the red stripe, the white stripe,

583
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: the blue stripe, everything.

584
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: Eh, are you making You're making the whole thing off.

585
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I will send you a dang. I can't believe I

586
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: have to do this. Sorry, guys, I have no time

587
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: to talk to you.

588
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: Fingers. Well, while you do that, let me go over

589
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: some of the other things on the list of First

590
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: of all, I haven't heard check your phone. Check your phone.

591
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Right there, we'll see the uniform for hot Dog on

592
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: a stick.

593
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: It's the picture of Sidney Sweeney. That's not a picture

594
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: of Sidney Sweeney. Oh, I'm sorry you were looking. Yeah, wow,

595
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: look at that? What does that look like?

596
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Although if you had Sidney Sweeney and a hot dog

597
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: and a stick uniform, that would combine the fantasies of

598
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: about seventeen billion.

599
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: Men in America. This this looks like Canadian Shriners. This

600
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: hat am I wrong? All right? So so hot dog

601
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: a stick is on by them? Who else? When is

602
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: the last time? Listen? Growing up? Growing up, you were

603
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: an East Coaster, so I'm sure was sizzler was big.

604
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the sizzler in the Midwest. Ponderosa is all right,

605
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: it was huge. Get the ribbi from Ponderosa, I'm told.

606
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: And a baked potato, I'm told when when I was

607
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: when Ponderosa's were all around me, when it was raining

608
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: Ponorosa in the Midwest, I was like eight, and I

609
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: at the time, I wasn't thinking, man, I could sure

610
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: go for a rippy right now.

611
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: You know the secret to a good baked potato when

612
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: you get in a restaurant that it comes in the foil.

613
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: That's true, That's how you know it's fresh. And then

614
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: there's beenansa steakhouse. Do you remember Bannanzas steakhouse has no idea.

615
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: So some of this stuff, it's like how does just

616
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: by the name pretzel maker, How does pretzel Maker go

617
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: out of business? I have a hunch they have good pretzels.

618
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: They also own Smoky Bones and Twin Peaks, that's what.

619
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: Which is a Hooter's knockoff?

620
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: And I've never been to a Twin Peaks and I

621
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: think I've been doing Hooters twice in my life.

622
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh boy. And I'm still sad that the local Hooters

623
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: here went out of business because I could, and I've

624
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: said this on several occasions on the show, just give

625
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: me a bowl of their breading. I don't even need

626
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: the chicken. Did Hooters go out of business here? Yeah,

627
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. The location on the north side of

628
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: Indianapolis closed and I wept, yes, So.

629
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: Now Twin Peaks might go out of business. Hooters went

630
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: out of business. I think we should open a restaurant

631
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: with this same kind of vein. You know, you know

632
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: why it's called Twin Peaks, right, I don't have to

633
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: if I'm saying it's a Hooter's knock up, I don't

634
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: explain why it's called Twin Peaks, do I?

635
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But I've got a good name

636
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: for it.

637
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I think it's self explained. Wait, wait, what's the name

638
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: of your restaurant?

639
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: Hoot Peaks? Nice? I don't think you're get in trouble

640
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: right as opposed to Peak Hooters, which is a very

641
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: different kind of place.

642
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: I think we should be a little more clandestine with

643
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: our name. It's a it's a Hooter's twin Peaks takeoff

644
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: and it's just called ha ha.

645
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: Can we get the Canadian shriner hats?

646
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: That's the uniform, That is the uniform that in later

647
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: host and it's called ha.

648
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: Why how we wit three billion dollars worth of debt? Sun? Now?

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Speaker 1: Never mind that they're going that it might put an

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Speaker 1: end to all these companies, it might, right, this was

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Speaker 2: They shared this out.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna use chapter eleven to the chapter eleven deleverage

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Speaker 1: the balance sheets and try and keep things going and growing,

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Speaker 1: so they're.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna go out. They're not gonna just fall apart.

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Speaker 1: But the question before us is is this poor management?

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Speaker 1: Are these poor brands in a world that isn't interested

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say this. You say, is it a

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Speaker 2: You look at some of the names of these places,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just speculating because I've I've never been there,

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Speaker 2: but a place like, uh, there's a place that's part

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Speaker 2: of their portfolio called Buffalo Express. If you want your

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Speaker 2: buffalo fast, yeah, that's where you would go, right, And

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Speaker 2: now there is. I don't just don't want it fast,

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Speaker 2: I want it more fast, exactly as opposed to part

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Speaker 2: of their portfolio Buffalo Cafe. What do you want to

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Speaker 1: And that they didn't call it buffalo on the go

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Speaker 2: That's it. We weren't doing their marketing. They would only

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Speaker 2: be down one point two billion if we were in charge.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, by the way, they feel much better

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Speaker 1: you think it is, right, It's not necessarily a sign

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Speaker 2: But son of a Gun.

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Speaker 1: This is a lot of brands, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: The money isn't there. They don't. People don't feel comfortable spending.

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Speaker 1: If they're gonna spend, they're gonna save up a little

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Speaker 2: They're not doing this anymore. You know what. Maybe that

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