1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The show. Hello, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: over there with a very special guest on the hotline. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: One of the best writers in America. You can catch 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: his work at OutKick dot com. Danny z dan zach 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: Shesky joins us. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: What's going on, man? 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: How are you? 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: Hey? Guys? I appreciate your having me as always. 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: All right, so you were outside the Supreme Court late 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: last week. Therefore, the oral arguments and the protests between 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: the pro boys playing against women people and the anti 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: boys playing against women people. We'll get to that here 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: in just a moment. But I know you used to 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: work at ESPN, You've been on air, You've been a 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: writer for sports, among other things. Your thoughts on this 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: wild journey of the Indiana Who's your football program? 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's it's incredibly disappointing because now 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: three Big Ten teams have won the national championship in 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: the past five years, and none of them are the 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Penn State and any allons. I mean guys, like, three years, 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: three Big Ten champions, all different teams, none of them 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: Penn State. I mean, how am I supposed to feel today? 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: I feel horrible? But let me say I you know, 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: you got to give credit. Where credits do you? Man 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 3: like this is. People have said it. It can't be overstated. 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: It's one of the greatest sports stories. Honestly, we've ever 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: witnessed a team that has never been known for football, 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: that has been historically bad at football, to turn around 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: and not only win the national championship, but the way 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: they did it, not losing a single game all year, 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: the way they rolled through the playoffs. Excuse me, even 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: last night, it really felt like they were never in 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: danger of losing that game. I didn't feel I don't 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: know if you guys felt it, but there was never 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: a time where I was like, Miami's gonna win this 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: football game. Yes the score was close, Yes Miami had 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: the ball, but you just felt like, with Indiana's defense, 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: they were never in any trouble. And that was kind 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: of indicative of how basically the entire season has gone. Like. 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 3: They never felt like they were going to lose to 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: Ohio State, never felt like they were going to lose 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: either of the playoff games they were in. What Signetti 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: did absolutely incredible, you know, and I used to I 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: actually bet against them. Thankfully, Miami did cover the part 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: of my rationale was that, you know, Indiana had benefited 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: a lot from defensive scores and turnovers, which can be 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: a bit sluoky, but at a certain point you just 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: kind of got to tip your hat and go like, hey, 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: that's a team that was built on it. It was 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: a team that played aggressive, they got the punt blocks 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: for a touchdown, it was I think they had at 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: least one defensive score or special team score in all 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: three playoff games. So at a certain point it's like, well, 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: maybe that wasn't sluky. That's just how well coached they 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: were in every phase of the game. And I think 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: that's part of what Signetti deserves credit for that maybe 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: he's not getting enough credit for is you know, things 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: like special teams can often be an afterthought, but like 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: Indiana poured everything it had into every phase of the game, 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: and that's why they're national champions deservingly. 61 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: So Okay, so here's the debate that we've been having 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: on our show today. If you're a Purdue fan, Okay, 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: the big rival to IU, all right. 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry about being a Penn State fan was bad. 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: But fans, hey, it's basketball season now, so at least 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: there they've got something going on. But I did see 67 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: a lot of Purdue fans and on my timeline last 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: night going, you know what, we're actually rooting for Indiana. 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: We want to keep it in the state of Indiana. 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: I am totally against that. I feel like, if you're 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: going to be a salty rival, you got to be 72 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: a salty rival. Michigan would never root for Ohio State. 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: And it was kind of wearing me out seeing these 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: feel good Purdue fans saying they're rooting for Indiana. Where 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: are you at on this. 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know where I'm at. I started 77 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: this by saying, I'm incredibly disappointed as a kind. 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Of state fan. 79 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: The third Big Ten team just won the national championship 80 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: and I was rooting for Miami. Also, I would say 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: this like, I feel like Purdue and Indiana are similar 82 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: in football, though Purdue's actually had even more success. So 83 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm a Purduce fan. I feel horrible this morning because 84 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm like that could have been us, Like, if Indiana 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: can do it, we should have been able to do it, 86 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: except we didn't. I would actually feel way worse about 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: myself today because again, now you have no excuses. Again, 88 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: that's part of the reason I'm so pissed as a 89 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: Penn State fan. It's like, Okay, Michigan won a national championship. Fine, 90 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: they've historically always been great. Ohio State, fine, historically great. 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: But if Indiana can win a national championship, then what 92 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: the hell is Penn State doing? How come they haven't 93 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: done it? Like, I feel way worse about Indiana winning 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: than Penn State. I'm sorry than Michigan or Ohio State 95 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: as a Penn State fan. 96 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: But who's like the big rival to Penn State? Dan, Like, 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: would you ever root for that rival because of one 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: reason or the other? 99 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: It's Ohio State and absolutely not no circumstance ever, never 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: never know. 101 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: All Right, Hey, Dan, talk about Mendoza for a second. 102 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: Heis Mendoza. Is there any comparison? Is there anybody quite 103 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: like him? I always made the comparison of him and 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning in terms of preparation for the game. He 105 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning. Like, when talking about prepping for the game, 106 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: have you seen anybody quite like Mendoza? He reminds you 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: of anybody else. 108 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait into some controversial territory, Okay, 109 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: I am not in love with Mendoza like everyone else, 110 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: I in fact think his postgame interviews are the absolute 111 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: worst thing I've ever heard in my entire life. He 112 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: sounds like a freaking robot, like he has been preparing 113 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: for these postgame interviews, like in the mirror. I'm actually 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: not sure if he spends more time preparing for the 115 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: game or preparing his post game speeches, because that's how 116 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: like rehearsed they sound. I the kid is great, obviously, 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: he what he did this season, He's a deserving Heisman winner. 118 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: His performance yesterday and actually it almost felt like he 119 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: finally gave a normal postgame interview yesterday. But before that 120 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't get it, Like maybe you 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: guys can tell me what I'm missing, But I have 122 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: felt like his interviews, his press time, like something just 123 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 3: weirdly feels a little bit off about him than me. 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: Would rather him be Diego Pavia though, Denny, would you 125 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: rather have him go up there wearing the eyes and 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: the gold grill and make it all about himself a. 127 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: Little bit of a character like I. I honestly think, 128 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: as we talked about on dock Ats your show, like 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: I think Pavi is playing a like a heel character. 130 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: I think he just made the decision that he's probably 131 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: not going to be an NFL quarterback. He's gonna need 132 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: to make a turn, so why not go into the 133 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: heel role and maybe he can get himself like a 134 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: YouTube show or some media and just be over the 135 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: top bombastic. Whereas Mendoza almost feels like he's playing the 136 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: character of this like perfect athlete that he has been 137 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: rehearsing for his entire life, like I have to just 138 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: be this guy and again it just it weirdly. All 139 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: feels very scripted to me. But it's working, right. 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: He's going to be the number one pick, while Diego 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: Pavia is gonna try to put me into a new 142 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Chevy next year. 143 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I mean, like, you know, they can 144 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: both be playing a character and one can have talent 145 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: at football and the other cannot. That's it is part 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: of the deal here. I don't know. I just something 147 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: about Mendoza feels a little inauthentic to me, Whereas everyone 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: is praising him as being super authentic. So I told 149 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: you it was gonna be controversial and everyone's gonna jump 150 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: down my throath. But something about them feels an authentic 151 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: to me, I don't know. 152 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: Let's tell you speaking with Dan zach Shesky, writer of 153 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: outkickoutkick dot com, So, what did you see at the 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: Supreme Court last week? Now, the Republicans, the Conservatives, we're 155 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: not the protest people. We have jobs, we go to work, 156 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: That's who we are. But man, I gotta be honest 157 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: with you. When I was watching the news coverage and 158 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: I'm following your stuff online, it seemed like an awful 159 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: lot of pro protecting women and sports people showed up. 160 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: It was guys for the majority of the day. I 161 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: felt like the you know, the pro woman crowd was 162 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: definitely the better represented crowd. I heard rumblings that the 163 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: anti woman crowd was planning on bringing in like buses 164 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: from New York City as people, which by the way, 165 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: doesn't surprise me because again, it's not hard to find 166 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: people who can get on a bus and be on 167 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: that bus for four hours when nobody has any jobs, 168 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: which I did think it was funny because I talked 169 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: to one trans person who said, I was like, you know, 170 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: what are you doing here today? And the person was like, well, 171 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: I had today off. I was like, oh, you have 172 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: today off? Lucky that it's a Tuesday at ten am, 173 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: and you are all that's unbelievable. Whereas it seemed like, 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: you know, the pro woman crowd, like, look, this was 175 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: a big deal. People made plans to take time off 176 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: of work to travel to this event, and look, guys, 177 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: you're like, I need to be this guy. But like 178 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: one side was standing up and the people were like 179 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: just literally telling their stories, like this is about truth, 180 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: this is about fairness, I'm here to protect women. It 181 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 3: was a lot of people telling their stories and explaining 182 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: themselves very articulately. And then on the other side you 183 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: had this like blaring dance club music and then you 184 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: had like Lady Gaga and like at one point they 185 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: literally the trans group was like, let's just yell with 186 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: rob as we can to drown them out. And it's 187 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: like right because you don't have an argument, Like you 188 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: don't have people who can stand up here and talk 189 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: about how this is fair or this is right, So 190 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: all you do is you yell a bunch of buzzwords 191 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: like I can't. Every speaker that came up in the 192 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: trans crowd basically started by being like, as a black, 193 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: trans Indigenous woman of cous like, oh my god, you 194 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 3: have to just identify yourself every single time. I mean, guys, 195 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: it was unbelievable how often I heard, you know, Asian 196 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: Twish woman man trans day Like I was like, geez, 197 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: but it's almost like, in order to speak at one 198 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: of these you have to have at least three of 199 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: these identifiers that apply to you or you can't speak. 200 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: And did we hear anything out of the he protects 201 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: women crowd? Like, again, we're not normally those types of people, 202 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: but they showed up with pretty good numbers. Did they 203 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: get a chance to get on a mic or a 204 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: bullhorn or anything like that. 205 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, the speeches were mostly what we 206 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: talked about, like explaining why they were here. You know, 207 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: every person that talk Riley Gaines or Bruce Pearl spoke 208 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: or Jennifer said, like every one of them just basically said, 209 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: I'm here because it's the right thing to do, because 210 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: I'm here for fairness, I'm here to protect women. I'm 211 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: here to protect girls. It's important. It's important that you 212 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 3: know we fight to protect our young women and that 213 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: we don't let children have these you know, potentials, not potentially, 214 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: but life's literally life changing surgeries and take these life 215 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: changing drugs. I mean it was. It was all very 216 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: factual and to the point, and also just in general 217 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: very sophisticated, whereas like the other group. There's a video 218 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: on my Twitter if you want to look it up 219 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: of like there was this crazy I don't know if 220 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: the person was trained. They had their own personal speaker, 221 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: and we're literally like working and we're like half drue. 222 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: It was like twenty seven degrees and this person was 223 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: in like a sports braw and like a key string 224 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: and was like doing this dance and I was like, 225 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 3: oh God, like, you know which side do you want 226 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: to be on? Guys, the side of people who were 227 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: like fully closed and like hey we're for fairness or 228 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 3: the side or that side like it. It just seems 229 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: pretty obvious. 230 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: And that person doing that was more active than anyone 231 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: on the Penn State football roster this year. Daddy Zy 232 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: follow his work at OutKick dot com. What's your Twitter handle? 233 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: I am at real dan Zach and just shout out 234 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: to you Hammer. That's what we call a callback in 235 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: the bus and that's. 236 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: Good callback, buddy, awesome stuff. Brother, We appreciate you. You 237 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: got a guys, thinker sa Hammer and Nigel Show